Re: Subject: RE: switch flow control

2001-01-12 Thread Paul Werner

I believe what everybody is trying to reference is actually the 
subspec contained in 802.3x, which is generally dealing with 
Full Duplex transmission.  An optional subcomponent deals with 
flow control using "pause" frames.  This appears in these links
(watch wrap):

 
http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ethernet
.htm

Search on "flow control"

and here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/lnso/lnmnso/fesol_wp
.htm

The actual configuration steps can be found here for a CAT 1900:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/192
8v9x/cli/part1.htm#xtocid1592737

a 2900/3500XL:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_3
5xp/cmdref/macrcli.htm#xtocid397620

a 6500/XDI interface:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_
6_1/cmd_ref/set_po_r.htm#30647

HTH,


Paul Werner



 Guys, this "pause" frame does not appear to have anything 
whatsoever to
 do
 with flow control of data transmission. Unless I am blind as 
a bat I am
 reading the link below to be referencing auto negotiation of 
links
 between
 NIC and switch or any device on a port and switch..
 
 Look, if a switch cannot output data as fast as it comes in, 
and the
 buffers
 fill, then packets get dropped. Same as with a router. or a 
PC.


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Re: Test

2001-01-12 Thread J Roysdon

Sorry again for the post.  I managed to solve it:  Changed my posting name 
email address.  Any idea if I was being intentionally filtered?  If so, an
email would have been nice, but oh well.

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ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread Nigel Taylor

Hi All,
   I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It =
would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
frame-relay cloud.=20

I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  =
I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and =
Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing =
the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial =
mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
p-t-p's for each pvc.

I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm =
I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"

For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...


Thanks All,

Nigel.

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Help with FTP + NAT

2001-01-12 Thread Javier Castillo Alcibar

Hello,

I am trying to configure NAT for FTP service, but I don't know how.
I have a router with 192.168.251.14 in the outside interface, and =
10.0.0.1
in the inside interface. I want that the incoming ftp connections from =
the
outsise(internet) to be translated to my internal server: 10.0.0.2



---FTP-(192.168.251.14) ROUTER(10.0.0.1)
---FTP XLATED--SERVER(10.0.0.2)


Any ideas?

Cheers.


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access list on bridging

2001-01-12 Thread Murat Kirmaci

Hello Everybody,
I would like to insert an access list between two Fastethernet ports at
Cisco 2621 but here the important criteria is there will be no ip routing in
the router just only the bridging protocol  must be running.Could it be
possible use access list over the interfaces which are just only running
bridging?

I would like to get your opinions.


Murat KIRMACI
CCNA
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LAN-to-WAN performance of cisco router?

2001-01-12 Thread Thitipong Limudomsuk


Hi all,

I need to know that what is the packet 
forwarding rate from LAN-to-WAN of cisco router
esp. cisco 2600, and cisco 3600. How many pps it 
can do?
If anybody know please tell me and show me the 
reference.

Thank you.
Thitipong 

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RE: switch flow control

2001-01-12 Thread Flem


--- Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Besides which. Isn't 802.3Z gigabit? Not relevant to
 most switches or switch
 ports? 

It is gigabit ethernet but there are annex that
specify this kind of flow control . I would say that
gigabit ethernet is *only* relevant for trunk ports on
switches and high speed routers .

Certainly not to the question of a fast port
 sending data to a slow
 port.

Nope . Queuing is extremely difficult and congestion
on switches involves more than sending a few pause
packets to end stations. 

 
 And re-reading, yeah I guess I was confused a bit by
 the summary, which I
 may have misinterpreted as autoconfig
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Flem
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:56 PM
 To:   Chuck Larrieu
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: switch flow control
 
 One of us needs a pair of glasses ;-) I read ;
 
 minimal specification for asymetric flow control
 
 Has to do with flow control.
 
 If you say a device to pause , process the buffers
 and
 then release the pause is indeed a minimal form of
 flow control .
 
 I never played with set port flowcontrol so I
 getting
 impressed 
 
 I loved the old style no buffer , drop packet .
 Things are really getting more complex is it not ?
 
 
 flem
 
 --- Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys, this "pause" frame does not appear to have
  anything whatsoever to do
  with flow control of data transmission. Unless I
 am
  blind as a bat I am
  reading the link below to be referencing auto
  negotiation of links between
  NIC and switch or any device on a port and
 switch..
 
  Look, if a switch cannot output data as fast as it
  comes in, and the buffers
  fill, then packets get dropped. Same as with a
  router. or a PC.
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Flem
  Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Re: switch flow control
 
  Or ;
 

http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/z/public/presentations/jan1997/HFpsbits
  .pdf
 
  Written by a cisco guy ... you are rights cisco do
  implement it.
 
  flem
 
 
  --- Chris McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is true...sorry.  I was reading a cisco
   document
   on the Cat 6000s where they explained flow
 control
   as
   being 802.3Z flow control.  I screwed up...(see
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
  /ether.htm#xtocid170110)
Come to think of it...it's called 802.1x
   (http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1x.html).
  Cisco
   supports it with some exceptions (set port
   flowcontrol).
  
   Gu
  
   Chris M.
  
   --- Flem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
802.1Z ? or 802.3z ?
This is gigabit stuff is it not ?
   
Is cisco implementing 802.3z on his gigabit
switches ? Don't think so .
Switch will buffer , if no buffer , then drop
packet.
   
Do you know what vendor implements pause
 frames
  ?
   
   
flem
   
   
--- Chris McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 802.1Z or 'pause frames'

 Chris M.

 --- Flem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Between NIC and switch ?
  What is the name of this handshaking ?
 
 
  flem
 
  --- Circusnuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I believe there is a handshake going on
  with
the
   switch  NIC
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Rick H
 
 
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Re: Cant see CDP neighbor

2001-01-12 Thread Ilya Mazhara

Hmm, strange thing. All is OK with 12.1.5.

Router4#sh cdp int
Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Encapsulation ARPA
  Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
  Holdtime is 180 seconds
Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY
  Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
  Holdtime is 180 seconds
Ethernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
  Encapsulation ARPA
  Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
  Holdtime is 180 seconds
Router4#sh cdp n
Capability Codes: R - Router, T - Trans Bridge, B - Source Route Bridge
  S - Switch, H - Host, I - IGMP, r - Repeater

Device IDLocal Intrfce HoldtmeCapability  Platform  Port
ID
sw   Eth 0/1140 T S   1900  6
sw   Eth 0/0140 T S   1900  4
Router3  Ser 0/0140  R2610  Ser
0/2

Frame Encapsulation is cisco.

Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 
 I got to wondering about this.
 
 I am working on a frame relay troubleshooting lab, and I have a situation in
 my lab where I am seeing all my routes as I expect. In other words, I
 believe I have solved the frame relay problem. However, in using that pod to
 check this CDP issue I find that CDP neighbors are indeed not showing up. I
 manually enabled CDP on all interfaces, and also ran CDP run in the root
 config menu. The debugs are indicating an encapsulation failure.
 
 As I said, all my routes are there and I have full ping ability from end to
 end. But no CDP.
 
 Interesting.
 
 IOS 12.1 something.
 
 -Original Message-
 From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Roberts, Timothy
 Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:19 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Roberts, Timothy
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:RE: Cant see CDP neighbor
 
 I Should have included in my last email that I already performed the cdp
 enable command.
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Cant see CDP neighbor
 
 Robert make sure that you enable cdp on the interface.  The command is "CDP
 enable".  You have to be in config-interface mode.  Let me know if this
 works??
 
 Eric Washington
 Banc Of America Securities - Japan
 Information Technology / IS
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 -Original Message-
 From: Roberts, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:48 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Cant see CDP neighbor
 
 I have two routers connected back to back via two serial cables.  I can ping
 each one from the other one.  The problem is that they do not show up when I
 do a show cdp neighbor.  I am sure that I am just overlooking something
 small.
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Re: Subject: ATQ0H0

2001-01-12 Thread nandit

It definitely is a cable problem.
use console cables connected to rj45  adapter to restore the image. After
the image is restored the switch goes for a self test and ATQ0H0
appears.Change the cable to a null modem cable and get back the console
This is what happened on my 1900 older version running 5.37.
hope this helps
nandit



 
 
   Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:45:17 -0500
   From: "Jon O'Nan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: ATQ0H0
  
   I've been working with an older Catalyst 1900 switch
  (firmware ver 5.37)
   We
   can't get any management console output. We are able to bring
  up the
   diagnostic console by holding in the mode button on the front
  of the
   switch
   while turning on the power. After upgrading the firmware via
  xmodem, the
   switch will POST and then leave us with a blsnk screen except
  for modem
   strings ATQ0H0. Anyone ever experienced the same issue?
 
 



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Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread Stephen Skinner


WEll WELL WELL.what a hornet`s nest i have stirred up..(still no 
chuck or pris or paul)SORRY guys but the I`s have it with 78 
Mails...wanting it and only 8 Mails condeming it .

You give me one good reson not to and i won`t 

By the way you can find it yourself it`s on the webBabY!!! (quick 
clue).

regards

steve (no personal regard for anyone but ME)


From: "Gautam Gupta" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:08:59 +0530

Hi stephen
i dont mind

Gautam

Stephen Skinner wrote:

  I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL the
  BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.
 
  anybody!..
 
  Sorry priscilla
 
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  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
  Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
  
  Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going to 
take
  test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will help 
you
  with the "flavor" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
  
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To All,
   
Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example: 
BCRAN
Opinions appreciated. Thanks
   
   
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I HAVE THE BOSON CRACK

2001-01-12 Thread micheal jackson

i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack

WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE ENCLUDED 
IT IN THIS E-MAIL


KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I DOWNLOADED 
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SEE YA

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RE: BCMSN

2001-01-12 Thread Taiwo Adeshugba

Don't sweat, go and take the exam. In as much as Boson is not a true
reflection of the exam, when you start to get those high marks and you know
the reason behind the question why they are wrong or right go take the exam.
Boson for BCMSN is harder than the actual exam. that is my opinion. so go
knock them for six.

Tai

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Subject: BCMSN


Hello all,

I have been studying for the BCMSN exam for about 3 weeks now. I am
getting over 80% on Boson test 1 and 2. Am I ready for the exam or
should I continue to study until I can get over 90% on the Boson exams?

Thank you in advance for the feedback.

Manny

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CCIE Written Beta results -

2001-01-12 Thread Nigel Taylor

All,
I don't know if anyone else got their Score Report but I received =
mines yesterday and I'm still in denial.  Yes, denial!  When I took the =
exam I really felt that the test itself was reasonable and well written. =
I must admit that when taking the exam it almost felt like the RS exam =
with a bunch of security.  In any event I missed the grade.  From the =
score sheet it does shoe me that I was week in security and Application =
protocols.  Well here's the breakdown;

Security Protocols:  45 (Ouch...!)
Operating Systems: 60
Application Protocols:  30 (Ouch...!)
General Networking: 75
Security Technologies: 40 (Ouch..!)
Security General: 90
Cisco General:   100 (weee heee.!)
Cisco Sec. Apps: 50 (Umm..)

As I said I surely failed this exam because of my overall weakness in =
Security.  Oh yes before I forget... the=20
passing mark was tagged at 65% and I only got a 57%.  like I said I =
thought it was a pretty good test and=20
before receiving this report.. "I thought" I did

In say that I'm drawn to remember a funny saying about the man that =
"thought"... :-

Review over...

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Passed BCRAN

2001-01-12 Thread Steven Dangerfield

All,

Passed BCRAN today ! just over 800, Not full marks but good enough to pass !

Thanks to the group !

Steve

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PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Imran Obaidullah M

Hi friends,

I have few basic questions,

1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).

2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.

Please send me the details

Thanks 

imran

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Thanks Jennifer and another simple questions!

2001-01-12 Thread Max Rion

Thanks for your heartful reply! Think u will help me a lot many times. :)

Well another simple question are here

1. Difference between 'reset' and 'reload' command!

2. In uBR 924, there are some led and DSNR is one of them. Is it Digital 
Signal to Noise Ratio? When checking SNR in IOS, the smaller numbers 
(including minus figures) are the better performancer than bigger ones?

3. When uBR 924 couldn't give IPs to the connected LANs (not because boot 
problems but somewhat problems unknown), someone said this as 'Ranging 
problem'. Is it correct?

4. When you use 'show stac'?

WowI think I am getting better because of you all. Thanks for letting me 
asking on! Have a nice day!
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Re: How to increase VTY line ?

2001-01-12 Thread Larry Ogun-Banjo

I had this problem recently and the remedy was to upgrade my IOS to the
enterprise version.






"Nomi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/11/2001 10:26:18 PM

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Subject:  How to increase VTY line ?



Dear fellows,

I want to increase the number of  Vty line. Is there is any way to get =
10 vty lines. By default cisco 2500 has 0-4 vty lines.(only 5 user can =
telnet to router)

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RE: Very OT, PERL scripts?

2001-01-12 Thread Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NSSG

Natasha,

That was Paul B. himself that needed PERL help.


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Someone needed PERL HTML stripping stuff done?
Not that I'm in the shape to be a stripper but I do happen to write
PERL, just missed who needs it.
Spotty memory and lousy timing. lol

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RE: Help with FTP + NAT

2001-01-12 Thread Elijah Savage

ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 20 192.168.251.14 20 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 20 192.168.251.14 20 extendable

Bascially what you are doing is telling the router to foward all traffic
that comes in on port 2120 on the outside address of 192.168.251.14 forward
that to 10.0.0.2 your ftp server. And that will do it.
Hope this helps.


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-Original Message-
From: Javier Castillo Alcibar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:11 AM
To: Cisco Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Help with FTP + NAT


Hello,

I am trying to configure NAT for FTP service, but I don't know how.
I have a router with 192.168.251.14 in the outside interface, and =
10.0.0.1
in the inside interface. I want that the incoming ftp connections from =
the
outsise(internet) to be translated to my internal server: 10.0.0.2



---FTP-(192.168.251.14) ROUTER(10.0.0.1)
---FTP XLATED--SERVER(10.0.0.2)


Any ideas?

Cheers.


Javier Castillo Alc=EDbar - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alhambra Systems, S.A. - www.alhsys.com
c/Albasanz 14, 28037 Madrid
Tel.: +34 913041800
Fax.: +34 913273131




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PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Imran Obaidullah M

Hi friends, 

I have few basic questions, 

1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2 
ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated 
Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN). 

2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance 
difference between the PIX and CheckPoint. 

Please send me the details 

Thanks 

imran 

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Re: LAN-to-WAN performance of cisco router?

2001-01-12 Thread Kenneth

I believe the 2621 was like 25000 pps
and the 2651 was 35000 pps

I don't know about the 3600 though.

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 Hi all,

 I need to know that what is the packet
 forwarding rate from LAN-to-WAN of cisco router
 esp. cisco 2600, and cisco 3600. How many pps it
 can do?
 If anybody know please tell me and show me the
 reference.

 Thank you.
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Re: I HAVE THE BOSON CRACK

2001-01-12 Thread John Pusledzki

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RE: Help with FTP + NAT

2001-01-12 Thread Elijah Savage

Sorry my last clip should have looked like this

ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 21 192.168.251.14 21 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 20 192.168.251.14 20 extendable

-Original Message-
From: Javier Castillo Alcibar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:11 AM
To: Cisco Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Help with FTP + NAT


Hello,

I am trying to configure NAT for FTP service, but I don't know how.
I have a router with 192.168.251.14 in the outside interface, and =
10.0.0.1
in the inside interface. I want that the incoming ftp connections from =
the
outsise(internet) to be translated to my internal server: 10.0.0.2



---FTP-(192.168.251.14) ROUTER(10.0.0.1)
---FTP XLATED--SERVER(10.0.0.2)


Any ideas?

Cheers.


Javier Castillo Alc=EDbar - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alhambra Systems, S.A. - www.alhsys.com
c/Albasanz 14, 28037 Madrid
Tel.: +34 913041800
Fax.: +34 913273131




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Re: CCIE Written Beta results -

2001-01-12 Thread Arthur Stewart

I took the CCIE Security beta test(and studied for it), too, and I won't be
surprised to get similar results. It's a beta test! The exam outline was
good, but not great.  I'll bet you the test changes some when it goes live.
I've taken about 3 dozen cert tests and the thing I've noticed is that, with
Cisco tests, until you sit down to them, you really don't get a great feel
for how they'll be, and this one was that way.  It's my field, and I like
it, so I'll take this sucker as many times as I need to, and, God help me, I
enjoyed it.  I count myself lucky to get to take the beta and be in on the
ground floor of a CCIE that's going places.  It's the best fifty bucks I've
spent recently, whether I ever get the cert or not.  So now you've got a
look at it, you know your weaknesses, hang in there and you'll kill it, no
doubt.

Arthur Stewart, CISSP, CCNP-Security, MCSE+I, MCNE


"Nigel Taylor" wrote in message ...
All,
I don't know if anyone else got their Score Report but I received =
mines yesterday and I'm still in denial.  Yes, denial!  When I took the =
exam I really felt that the test itself was reasonable and well written. =
I must admit that when taking the exam it almost felt like the RS exam =
with a bunch of security.  In any event I missed the grade.  From the =
score sheet it does shoe me that I was week in security and Application =
protocols.  Well here's the breakdown;

Security Protocols:  45 (Ouch...!)
Operating Systems: 60
Application Protocols:  30 (Ouch...!)
General Networking: 75
Security Technologies: 40 (Ouch..!)
Security General: 90
Cisco General:   100 (weee heee.!)
Cisco Sec. Apps: 50 (Umm..)

As I said I surely failed this exam because of my overall weakness in =
Security.  Oh yes before I forget... the=20
passing mark was tagged at 65% and I only got a 57%.  like I said I =
thought it was a pretty good test and=20
before receiving this report.. "I thought" I did

In say that I'm drawn to remember a funny saying about the man that =
"thought"... :-

Review over...

Nigel..



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RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

The VPN client does not run on 2000. There is a third party company that
does make a client for Win 2000 and Cisco, but I have never tried it and
forget who it is. If you want to run an IPSEC tunnel from a win2000 machine
to a Cisco device you have to do it through an l2tp tunnel. Set that up
first and then run IPSEC over it. I believe Win2000 has all the components
you need to do this on disk.

-Original Message-
From: VanHaaren, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:45 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: VanHaaren, Nicole
Subject: Cisco Secure VPN Client


Has anyone tried using this product?  It seems like it will not work with
Windows 2000...  I am getting an error when I try to run setup.exe on my
computer.  Does anyone have any ideas for a workaround?  Maybe a site with
other vpn client software?  I can't find a patch or any other info on CCO
regarding compatability with Win2000.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Nicole

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RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

2001-01-12 Thread VanHaaren, Nicole

Ok, so I have searched CCO, but can't find info on the beta
anywhereanyone have any idea how I can get my hands on this?
Thanks!


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

Nicole,

The supplied VPN client won't run on W2K, You'll have to apply for the beta
version which is working fine for me so far.

Andy

 -Original Message-
From:   VanHaaren, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:45 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: VanHaaren, Nicole
Subject:Cisco Secure VPN Client

Has anyone tried using this product?  It seems like it will not work with
Windows 2000...  I am getting an error when I try to run setup.exe on my
computer.  Does anyone have any ideas for a workaround?  Maybe a site with
other vpn client software?  I can't find a patch or any other info on CCO
regarding compatability with Win2000.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Nicole

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Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

So, you are attempting to stir things up, is that it??  You are purposely 
trying to annoy people who want to learn here??  And who are teaching others??
I am not implying this; I am merely stating your own words...How sad that you 
have no regard for yourself and yet you sign your e-mail...regards...

You appear to be full of double talk and disrespect for people you could 
learn from.  Whatever you do, you should go ahead and do it and leave this 
group to their business and quit trying to get a rise out of people so you 
can sit and laugh from your chair at home or work or whereever you are.  

What you do is your own business, but someone who has no regards for 
themselves needs to work on that issue and try and find some happiness in 
their lives that is not based on the opinions or thoughts of another.  We 
only have to live with ourselves and our own self-respect.  Without that, I 
would think someone would have a pretty miserable existance.

I am not saying anything about the rightness or the wrongness of supplying 
codes or whatever.  That is not my issue.  That's a personal thing that 
shouldn't concern anyone but yourself and who you do your business with.  But 
the way you are going about things appears to be based on some other motive 
like "trying" to get a rise out of people", who probably have better things 
to do than waste their time replying to someone such as the likes of you.  I 
just happen to have more time on my hands


Jennifer Cribbs

Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 
 WEll WELL WELL.what a hornet`s nest i have stirred up..(still no 
 chuck or pris or paul)SORRY guys but the I`s have it with 78 
 Mails...wanting it and only 8 Mails condeming it .
 
 You give me one good reson not to and i won`t 
 
 By the way you can find it yourself it`s on the webBabY!!! (quick 
 clue).
 
 regards
 
 steve (no personal regard for anyone but ME)
 
 
 From: \"Gautam Gupta\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:08:59 +0530
 
 Hi stephen
 i dont mind
 
 Gautam
 
 Stephen Skinner wrote:
 
   I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL the
   BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.
  
   anybody!..
  
   Sorry priscilla
  
   From: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
   Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
   
   Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going to 
 take
   test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will help 
 you
   with the \"flavor\" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 To All,

 Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example: 
 BCRAN
 Opinions appreciated. Thanks


  Raheem
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RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

2001-01-12 Thread Soucy, Aaron

Cisco does make a client but it is in beta testing right now.  I have used
it and it seems to run just fine.  But they say that it is still too buggy
to release it, so I am not sure when they plan on releasing it.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:57 AM
To: 'VanHaaren, Nicole'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client


The VPN client does not run on 2000. There is a third party company that
does make a client for Win 2000 and Cisco, but I have never tried it and
forget who it is. If you want to run an IPSEC tunnel from a win2000 machine
to a Cisco device you have to do it through an l2tp tunnel. Set that up
first and then run IPSEC over it. I believe Win2000 has all the components
you need to do this on disk.

-Original Message-
From: VanHaaren, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:45 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: VanHaaren, Nicole
Subject: Cisco Secure VPN Client


Has anyone tried using this product?  It seems like it will not work with
Windows 2000...  I am getting an error when I try to run setup.exe on my
computer.  Does anyone have any ideas for a workaround?  Maybe a site with
other vpn client software?  I can't find a patch or any other info on CCO
regarding compatability with Win2000.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Nicole

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RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

I am not sure about CSS switches, and maybe your needs are special, but
couldn't you just add a default route to both PIX's on each switch's RSM and
turn off fast-switching. You will then get per packet load balancing between
the switches and the pix's. 

I have done this before between 6500's and routers in for high
avail/reliability but not between the switches and PIX's. I don't know why
it wouldn't work with the pix though .




 

-Original Message-
From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:39 PM
To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch


We currently have our PIXs side by side right behind
the internet routers. Then the PIXs connect into two
redundant 6509s, which is our core.
We are trying for high availibility, which the
failover software already does for us. But I was
thinking it probably was better to use both of them at
the same time, more efficient and more throughput
without having to buy 535. So I'm looking to load
balance the two PIXs, which we can do with
Checkpoint/Stonebeat combo.
From the link you sent me on the 6509, it seems
perhaps that I can use them to load balance to the
PIXs from the inside? What is better for traffic
coming from the internet to be load balanced on the
PIX? The CSS or Local Director? The both seem to be
for web or server traffic, but I can see them being
used in other ways.
Got any advice?
Thanks.

--- Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here are some links for the CSS switches. For the
 application that it
 appears that you are trying to run you will need the
 switches in front and
 behind the PIX boxes. The PIX 535 is out now and
 will do a Gig of
 throughput. What are you trying to accomplish? You
 can run PIXes in a
 active/passive config if it is high availability
 that you are looking for.
 Give me a little more on the design that you are
 doing.
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/11000/prodlit/
 
 
 or load balance on the 6500

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/ios6k_wp.htm

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/aslb_wp.htm
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Yonkerbonk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Wayne Lawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Tommy
 Mitchell"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco@groupstudy.
 com (E-mail)"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:46 PM
 Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
 
 
 Hi Wayne,
 
 Could you point me to some information on the CSSes
 and how to configure for load balancing? I was
 looking
 at Local Director and Alteon boxes to do that for
 two
 PIXs. Do I need them on both he outside and inside?
 Thanks.
 
 
 --- Wayne Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tommy,
 
Actually you CAN have the CSS in an "active /
  active" mode
  with true firewall load balancing.
 
  Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244
  Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc.
  2000 Town Center, Suite 450
  Southfield, Michigan 48075
 
  Voice:  (248) 455 - 1663
  Cell:  (248) 709 - 5797
  Pager: (800) 365 - 4578
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Tommy Mitchell
  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:15 AM
  To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
  Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
  Switch
 
 
  Yes, they can unless you're trying to load-balance
  firewalls.  Try to
  load-balance firewalls and you have to go
  active-standby.
 
  Tommy
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Muhammad Faheem" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM
  Subject: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch
 
 
   Hi All
  
   Just wanted to know that Cisco Content Switch
  (CSS-11000  CSS-11800) can
   work as Active - Active or not.
  
   Thanks for Input
  
   Muhammad Faheem
   Systems Engineer
   Afcomp
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RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

2001-01-12 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

They have told me that it will be out in March.

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Soucy, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:05 AM
To: 'Christopher Larson'; 'VanHaaren, Nicole'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client


Cisco does make a client but it is in beta testing right now.  I have used
it and it seems to run just fine.  But they say that it is still too buggy
to release it, so I am not sure when they plan on releasing it.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:57 AM
To: 'VanHaaren, Nicole'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client


The VPN client does not run on 2000. There is a third party company that
does make a client for Win 2000 and Cisco, but I have never tried it and
forget who it is. If you want to run an IPSEC tunnel from a win2000 machine
to a Cisco device you have to do it through an l2tp tunnel. Set that up
first and then run IPSEC over it. I believe Win2000 has all the components
you need to do this on disk.

-Original Message-
From: VanHaaren, Nicole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:45 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: VanHaaren, Nicole
Subject: Cisco Secure VPN Client


Has anyone tried using this product?  It seems like it will not work with
Windows 2000...  I am getting an error when I try to run setup.exe on my
computer.  Does anyone have any ideas for a workaround?  Maybe a site with
other vpn client software?  I can't find a patch or any other info on CCO
regarding compatability with Win2000.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Nicole

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Help with pixlog.pl for PIX FW

2001-01-12 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings all,

Someone sent out an email last week about a logging script for the PIX
firewalls.  If any of you guys are using it, I can use your help.

The script home:

http://cs.calvin.edu/~mpost89/pixlog/

Thanks,

Nabil

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RE: switch flow control

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

A switch recieves data in it's port buffer at 100 mbps, as the frame travels
the switches backplane it is copied to all ports, when it arrives at an ASIC
chip (I forget if it's the Earl or what)in the SUP module, the module looks
in it's table and decides what port it should go out of and tells all other
ports but that one to flush their buffers and the forwarding port to
forward. So you see the frame arrives at the port at 100, but travels the
backplane at a constant speed as it is traveling the backplane it is copied
to the 10 meg port (all ports actually), after the asic decides who flushes
and who forwards, the forwarding port tells the 10 meg port to forward.


This is my understanding of what happens. Corrections and additions
welcome!!


-Original Message-
From: Rick Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: switch flow control


There is one thing that confuses me about switches. If you have a switch
with a 100Mb port and 10Mb port and the 100 starts sending data to the 10
how does the sending station keep from overflowing the buffer on the switch
since there in now flow control at layer 2?

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Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread Cthulu

Jennifer,

Apologies for Mr. Skinner's personal attack;  it was uncalled for, and I was
angered when I read it.   Please do not take Mr. Skinner's remarks to heart;
after reading this message, you will feel some measure of sympathy for him.

I recently tracked him to his current location at the Lower Primate House at
a well-known zoo.  Mr. Skinner was hooting and hollering with the his
comrades, but took the time out to talk to me about his post.

He explained that in addition to his tire swing, they had also given him an
Internet Device, and he figured out how to reach groupstudy.com.
Incidentally, he found it while searching for www.tireswingmates.com.  He
also found the Boson crack that he spoke of;  he was no aware that he went
beyond mere offense with his post.  I knew that if I used "big words" , he
would not understand why it was wrong, so I choose an analogy he could
understand:  tires.

I expained that what he had done was akin to stealing the tires from the
truck that delivered his bananas, and giving them to the arrogant chimpanzes
the next cage over.He got excited until I explained that his bananas was
still coming.  I told by that while giving can be a nice thing, he should
make sure he owned what he gave away, and that he would hurt himself and his
species in the long wrong because without the "tires", the bananas would not
get delivered.  See, by taking the tires without paying, he reduced the
incentive of the tire company to produce tires, and in fact, cuts into their
capital and ability to make more tires.  The end result is that the tire
company could go bankrupt, and the world would be short of tires...and tire
swings.

I think Mr. Skinner now understands, but I am not sure.  When I left, he was
fling dung at the tourists, and hooting.  He was also pounding on his
internet device with his buttocks, so I imagine a heated post will soon
follow.

HTH,

Charles






""Stephen Skinner"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

 do you know ,you have "i need a MAN" as clear a day Printed on your
 forehead...

 BTW it appears someone beat me to it..nevermind hey..Maybe boson
 will update there protection now hey!!!


 love and kisses ..steve

 From: Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED],Cisco Group Study
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:54:54 -
 
 So, you are attempting to stir things up, is that it??  You are purposely
 trying to annoy people who want to learn here??  And who are teaching
 others??
 I am not implying this; I am merely stating your own words...How sad that
 you
 have no regard for yourself and yet you sign your e-mail...regards...
 
 You appear to be full of double talk and disrespect for people you could
 learn from.  Whatever you do, you should go ahead and do it and leave
this
 group to their business and quit trying to get a rise out of people so
you
 can sit and laugh from your chair at home or work or whereever you are.
 
 What you do is your own business, but someone who has no regards for
 themselves needs to work on that issue and try and find some happiness in
 their lives that is not based on the opinions or thoughts of another.  We
 only have to live with ourselves and our own self-respect.  Without that,
I
 would think someone would have a pretty miserable existance.
 
 I am not saying anything about the rightness or the wrongness of
supplying
 codes or whatever.  That is not my issue.  That's a personal thing that
 shouldn't concern anyone but yourself and who you do your business with.
 But
 the way you are going about things appears to be based on some other
motive
 like "trying" to get a rise out of people", who probably have better
things
 to do than waste their time replying to someone such as the likes of you.
 I
 just happen to have more time on my hands
 
 
 Jennifer Cribbs
 
 Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  
   WEll WELL WELL.what a hornet`s nest i have stirred up..(still
no
   chuck or pris or paul)SORRY guys but the I`s have it with 78
   Mails...wanting it and only 8 Mails condeming it .
  
   You give me one good reson not to and i won`t 
  
   By the way you can find it yourself it`s on the webBabY!!!
 (quick
   clue).
  
   regards
  
   steve (no personal regard for anyone but ME)
  
  
   From: \"Gautam Gupta\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
   Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:08:59 +0530
   
   Hi stephen
   i dont mind
   
   Gautam
   
   Stephen Skinner wrote:
   
 I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for
ALL
 the
 BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.

 anybody!..

 Sorry priscilla

 From: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

RE: CCIE-LAB practice....

2001-01-12 Thread Wayne Lawson

Also check out www.solutionlabs.com  They've got some good prep material as
well.

Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244
Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc.
2000 Town Center, Suite 450
Southfield, Michigan 48075

Voice:  (248) 455 - 1663
Cell:  (248) 709 - 5797
Pager: (800) 365 - 4578



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:39 PM
To: heung-su kim; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE-LAB practice


www.fatkid.com

www.ccbootcamp.com

http://www.mentorlabs.com/vlab/access

www.cccert.com

http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/index.html

some of these are free. Others cost you.

HTH

Chuck

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
heung-su kim
Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:CCIE-LAB practice

Hi all

The first time I took the CCIE-lab, but I did not passed.

 I have completed the CCNA and CCNP, CCIE written Exam, and I am preparing
for the CCIE Lab, you would please advise me of any practice CCIe-lab?

Would you also offer any tip or study method?


heung su kim


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Advance PIX Configuration Exam

2001-01-12 Thread Richie, Nathan

Has anyone taken this exam?  I know it is a part of the security track, but
does it replace the exam # 9E0-559 "Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Fundamentals"?
Is there an exam outline for this exam?

Thanks,

Nathan Richie

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Re: Cant see CDP neighbor

2001-01-12 Thread Gonzalo P.

I had one problem once with a PPP Multilink Interface, three T1's between
two buildings... everything fine, but, I could not see anything on CDP.

The Solution was very easy, a "clear interface" ( on the virtual one) solved
it.

 Good luck.

 Gonzalo, CCNP

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 I have two routers connected back to back via two serial cables.  I can
ping
 each one from the other one.  The problem is that they do not show up when
I
 do a show cdp neighbor.  I am sure that I am just overlooking something
 small.
 Thanks

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Re: Cant see CDP neighbor

2001-01-12 Thread John Neiberger

I thought I'd throw my $.02 in here.  I have seen two or three situations
here in our network where we had missing CDP neighbors.  Our entire network
is point-to-point frame relay using subinterfaces.  Take the following
layout:

RouterA --- RouterB --- RouterC

RouterB has a single interface with two frame relay subinterfaces connecting
to A and C.  In our case, with CDP, A could see B, B could see C, but B
could not see A.  We never figured out what the problem was. "show cdp int"
seemed to show no problems, as well as "debug cdp whatever".  

Originally, A was running 11.2(17) while B and C were running 11.2(18).  A
is now running 12.1(5a) and this has made no difference, I just checked.

  Hmm, strange thing. All is OK with 12.1.5.
  
  Router4#sh cdp int
  Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
Encapsulation ARPA
Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
Holdtime is 180 seconds
  Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY
Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
Holdtime is 180 seconds
  Ethernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up
Encapsulation ARPA
Sending CDP packets every 60 seconds
Holdtime is 180 seconds
  Router4#sh cdp n
  Capability Codes: R - Router, T - Trans Bridge, B - Source Route Bridge
S - Switch, H - Host, I - IGMP, r - Repeater
  
  Device IDLocal Intrfce HoldtmeCapability  Platform  Port
  ID
  sw   Eth 0/1140 T S   1900  6
  sw   Eth 0/0140 T S   1900  4
  Router3  Ser 0/0140  R2610  Ser
  0/2
  
  Frame Encapsulation is cisco.
  
  Chuck Larrieu wrote:
   
   I got to wondering about this.
   
   I am working on a frame relay troubleshooting lab, and I have a
situation in
   my lab where I am seeing all my routes as I expect. In other words, I
   believe I have solved the frame relay problem. However, in using that
pod to
   check this CDP issue I find that CDP neighbors are indeed not showing
up. I
   manually enabled CDP on all interfaces, and also ran CDP run in the
root
   config menu. The debugs are indicating an encapsulation failure.
   
   As I said, all my routes are there and I have full ping ability from
end to
   end. But no CDP.
   
   Interesting.
   
   IOS 12.1 something.
   
   -Original Message-
   From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
   Roberts, Timothy
   Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:19 PM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Roberts, Timothy
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:RE: Cant see CDP neighbor
   
   I Should have included in my last email that I already performed the
cdp
   enable command.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:05 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Cant see CDP neighbor
   
   Robert make sure that you enable cdp on the interface.  The command is
"CDP
   enable".  You have to be in config-interface mode.  Let me know if this
   works??
   
   Eric Washington
   Banc Of America Securities - Japan
   Information Technology / IS
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Roberts, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:48 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: Cant see CDP neighbor
   
   I have two routers connected back to back via two serial cables.  I can
ping
   each one from the other one.  The problem is that they do not show up
when I
   do a show cdp neighbor.  I am sure that I am just overlooking something
   small.
   Thanks
   
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RE: Frustrating QoS issue

2001-01-12 Thread John Neiberger

Ugh, I can't believe I forgot to put the version in my first post.  We have
upgraded to 12.1(5a)E1.  I may give up on the config I posted and just use
WFQ and ip rtp priority.  It accomplishes basically the same thing, it's
less to configure, and I know that it is supported.

Thanks,
John

  What is your current IOS version on the router?
  
  The idea is to be sure that the version support your kind of technology.
In
  order to check that, you have some white paper that exactly give you the
  correspondance between IOS level and QoS policies.
  
  
  
   -Message d'origine-
   De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de
   John Neiberger
   Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:56 PM
   À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Objet: Frustrating QoS issue
  
  
   I'm trying to configure CBWFQ on a 7513 with no VIP cards, just
   older serial
   and fast ethernet cards.  I have this exact configuration
   currently running
   one a 2620 with no problem.  Here is the relevant config:
  
   class-map video
 match access-group name videolist
   !
   !
   policy-map videoconf
 class video
   priority 264
 class class-default
  fair-queue
  random-detect
   !
   ip access-list extended videolist
permit udp any any range 3230 3235
permit udp host 10.1.105.98 any
   !
   interface serial1/1
service-policy output videoconf
  
   When I attempt to add that last line--applying the policy to the
   interface--I get the following error:
  
   service-policy is supported only on VIP interfaces with DCEF
   enabled
  
   I can't find anything on CCO that says I have to have a VIP and
   DCEF running
   before I can run CBWFQ on an RSP.  Do any of you have any experience
with
   this?  We have been fighting with IOS upgrades for weeks just so we
could
   get CBWFQ.  If I can't make this work, my boss will be seriously ticked
to
   say the least.
  
   Any ideas?
  
   Thanks,
   John
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch

2001-01-12 Thread Yonkerbonk

I imagine the problem comes when the PIX needs to know
the state of the data flow, like if it's an ongoing
TCP session or just random data. I'm not sure if this
is an issue. Do the PIXs need to share information? Do
the CSS do that for them?

--- Christopher Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not sure about CSS switches, and maybe your
 needs are special, but
 couldn't you just add a default route to both PIX's
 on each switch's RSM and
 turn off fast-switching. You will then get per
 packet load balancing between
 the switches and the pix's. 
 
 I have done this before between 6500's and routers
 in for high
 avail/reliability but not between the switches and
 PIX's. I don't know why
 it wouldn't work with the pix though .
 
 
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:39 PM
 To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
 
 
 We currently have our PIXs side by side right behind
 the internet routers. Then the PIXs connect into two
 redundant 6509s, which is our core.
 We are trying for high availibility, which the
 failover software already does for us. But I was
 thinking it probably was better to use both of them
 at
 the same time, more efficient and more throughput
 without having to buy 535. So I'm looking to load
 balance the two PIXs, which we can do with
 Checkpoint/Stonebeat combo.
 From the link you sent me on the 6509, it seems
 perhaps that I can use them to load balance to the
 PIXs from the inside? What is better for traffic
 coming from the internet to be load balanced on the
 PIX? The CSS or Local Director? The both seem to be
 for web or server traffic, but I can see them being
 used in other ways.
 Got any advice?
 Thanks.
 
 --- Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here are some links for the CSS switches. For the
  application that it
  appears that you are trying to run you will need
 the
  switches in front and
  behind the PIX boxes. The PIX 535 is out now and
  will do a Gig of
  throughput. What are you trying to accomplish? You
  can run PIXes in a
  active/passive config if it is high availability
  that you are looking for.
  Give me a little more on the design that you are
  doing.
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/11000/prodlit/
  
  
  or load balance on the 6500
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/ios6k_wp.htm
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/aslb_wp.htm
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Yonkerbonk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Wayne Lawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Tommy
  Mitchell"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 "cisco@groupstudy.
  com (E-mail)"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:46 PM
  Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
  Switch
  
  
  Hi Wayne,
  
  Could you point me to some information on the
 CSSes
  and how to configure for load balancing? I was
  looking
  at Local Director and Alteon boxes to do that for
  two
  PIXs. Do I need them on both he outside and
 inside?
  Thanks.
  
  
  --- Wayne Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tommy,
  
 Actually you CAN have the CSS in an "active /
   active" mode
   with true firewall load balancing.
  
   Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244
   Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc.
   2000 Town Center, Suite 450
   Southfield, Michigan 48075
  
   Voice:  (248) 455 - 1663
   Cell:  (248) 709 - 5797
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   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Tommy Mitchell
   Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:15 AM
   To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
   Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
   Switch
  
  
   Yes, they can unless you're trying to
 load-balance
   firewalls.  Try to
   load-balance firewalls and you have to go
   active-standby.
  
   Tommy
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Muhammad Faheem" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)"
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM
   Subject: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
  
  
Hi All
   
Just wanted to know that Cisco Content Switch
   (CSS-11000  CSS-11800) can
work as Active - Active or not.
   
Thanks for Input
   
Muhammad Faheem
Systems Engineer
Afcomp
Hello : (9714)-3933878 / 3027338
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Passed BSCN!

2001-01-12 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, all.

I  passed BSCN today with score 919. Thanks to the group members!

Regards,
Jaeheon

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Re: BOSON CRACK - Don't do it!!

2001-01-12 Thread Natasha

I wouldn't suggest using this crack and it has nothing to do cheating
the company or the software designers. That alone raises my dander! The
crack that you found may or may not work however it's a small executable
program written by some unknown hacker that's most likely makes registry
changes and anything else it decides to do. Have you ever considered
that it may be a time bomb Trojan?
And you just invited it in
I'm glad that you're not on my network!
Natasha


micheal jackson wrote:
 
 i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack
 
 WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE ENCLUDED
 IT IN THIS E-MAIL
 
 KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I DOWNLOADED
 YESTERDAY.
 
 SEE YA
 
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Re: Checkpoint Cisco VPN 5000 Concentrator

2001-01-12 Thread Yonkerbonk

I installed a VPN 3010 and it goes parallel with the
firewall, in my case a PIX. I didn't use the VPN 3000
client, but rather Windows 2000 built-in VPN adapter.
It does have the abilitity to do all the things you
listed. I did run into some issues with the box
talking MS-CHAPv2 and our NT server only talking v1,
but overall it seemed like a good box. Bought from
Altiga back in April 2000 I think.

--- pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HellO Everyone:
 
 Does this box works with Checkpoint to establish
 IPSec tunnels..? 
 I am new to this VPN 5002 box, though I have
 good
 hands on on other VPN. Can anybody through some
 light
 on how this box works with the client software that
 comes with the box. I am not looking for
 configuration
 details at this stage. My concern is I have seen VPN
 client software where in you can configure IPSec
 details such as AH,ESP,des,3des,md5,sha. But in this
 client software (which can be installed on Win98/NT)
 I don't see any options to do this. Does it detect
 from VPN 5000 box automatically? 
  I am planning to place this VPN box behind the
 checkpoint firewall. Is this correct way of doing
 it..? The box has only one ethernet interface.Does
 it
 suppose to be like this or it needs to have min of
 two
 interfaces..?
 If somebody can help me out with answers it will
 really be great.
 
 thanks.
  
 
 
 
  
 
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What is the url of the COLT tests?

2001-01-12 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

Good Morning!

I have been doing a search for the colt tests and I can't seem to find out 
anything on these.  Does anyone know the url where these tests are located?  

Thanks in advance..

- 
Have a good day!!!
Jennifer Cribbs



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Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

[My original answer to Mr. Skinner seems to be caught in the filters 
somewhere.]

Jennifer,

Apologies for Mr. Skinner's personal attack;  it was uncalled for, and I was
angered when I read it.   Please do not take Mr. Skinner's remarks to heart;
after reading this message, you will feel some measure of sympathy for him.

I recently tracked him to his current location at the Lower Primate House at
a well-known zoo.  Mr. Skinner was hooting and hollering with the his
comrades, but took the time out to talk to me about his post.

You realize, Charles, that the control of propagation of hooting and 
hollering is one of the essentials of scalable networking.  Mr. 
Skinner's implementation seems to be that of bad NetBEUI code: 
broadcasting rather than multicasting, and sending redundant frames.


He explained that in addition to his tire swing, they had also given him an
Internet Device, and he figured out how to reach groupstudy.com.

Have you observed the structural similarity between a tire swing and 
a token ring?

... I knew that if I used "big words" , he
would not understand why it was wrong, so I choose an analogy he could
understand:  tires.

I expained that what he had done was akin to stealing the tires from the
truck that delivered his bananas, and giving them to the arrogant chimpanzes
the next cage over.He got excited until I explained that his bananas was
still coming.  I told by that while giving can be a nice thing, he should
make sure he owned what he gave away, and that he would hurt himself and his
species in the long wrong because without the "tires", the bananas would not
get delivered.  See, by taking the tires without paying, he reduced the
incentive of the tire company to produce tires, and in fact, cuts into their
capital and ability to make more tires.  The end result is that the tire
company could go bankrupt, and the world would be short of tires...and tire
swings.

I'm still meditating on the relevance of "Old Man River" to 
this...there must be some:

 (from memory)

  "...tired of living
  And scared of dying
  But Old Man IP
  He just keeps rolling along


I think Mr. Skinner now understands, but I am not sure.  When I left, he was
fling dung at the tourists, and hooting.  He was also pounding on his
internet device with his buttocks, so I imagine a heated post will soon
follow.


There does seem a certain parallel between protuberant red primate 
buttocks and the root of a spanning tree.  Perhaps you are referring 
to a thrashing in the root election process.

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Re: Advance PIX Configuration Exam

2001-01-12 Thread Gonzalo P.

 I have not taken that one, but I took the Beta VPN (90%!) It was a hard
test since it covers everything (Concentrators, PIX, Routers, Certificates,
and PFM).

 I have a lot of respect for the People in Cisco doing the new security
tests, they are not as easy as the new CCNP2.0 tests. So, I asume that it is
going to be hard.

 Good luck,
Gonzalo, CCNP

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 Has anyone taken this exam?  I know it is a part of the security track,
but
 does it replace the exam # 9E0-559 "Cisco Secure PIX Firewall
Fundamentals"?
 Is there an exam outline for this exam?

 Thanks,

 Nathan Richie

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RE: ISDN Simulator

2001-01-12 Thread Jim Brown


Just picked up and Emutel Solo this week.

PROS
1. Interfaces are S or U software configurable
2. All numbers and spids are software configurable
3. Uses a power supply, but has a battery for about 2 hours of runtime when
disconnected from PS. Easy to take home or on the road.

CONS
1. Worst documentation I have seen in a while.
2. Seems to drop layer 2 intermittently? Only requires a reboot of
simulator.
3. No phone in tech support. E-mail only!

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Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator 


FYI.. seems good but not cheap

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Re: Passed BSCN!

2001-01-12 Thread Dan West

Congrats! and a question...

Is the material pretty evenly balanced between OSPF,
EIGRP, BGP and redistribution?  Thanks.

--- Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all.
 
 I  passed BSCN today with score 919. Thanks to the
 group members!
 
 Regards,
 Jaeheon
 
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Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread Jennifer Cribbs


That is a wonderful analogy...and it also reminds of some very basic rules in 
probably every zoostay away from the bars and don't antagonize the 
animals or tap on the glassunless you want to suffer the consequenses of 
an angry animal.   

I actually had another e-mail telling me much the same thing as you in a 
different way and I thank you both.  I was extremely shocked when I read 
Mr.Skinner's e-mail.  Perspective is a funny thing sometimes BUT I feel back 
on track now.

I admit it was hurtful though, probably due to it's unexpectedness.
 
Sincerely,
Jennifer Cribbs


Cthulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Jennifer,
 
 Apologies for Mr. Skinner's personal attack;  it was uncalled for, and I was
 angered when I read it.   Please do not take Mr. Skinner's remarks to heart;
 after reading this message, you will feel some measure of sympathy for him.
 
 I recently tracked him to his current location at the Lower Primate House at
 a well-known zoo.  Mr. Skinner was hooting and hollering with the his
 comrades, but took the time out to talk to me about his post.
 
 He explained that in addition to his tire swing, they had also given him an
 Internet Device, and he figured out how to reach groupstudy.com.
 Incidentally, he found it while searching for www.tireswingmates.com.  He
 also found the Boson crack that he spoke of;  he was no aware that he went
 beyond mere offense with his post.  I knew that if I used "big words" , he
 would not understand why it was wrong, so I choose an analogy he could
 understand:  tires.
 
 I expained that what he had done was akin to stealing the tires from the
 truck that delivered his bananas, and giving them to the arrogant chimpanzes
 the next cage over.He got excited until I explained that his bananas was
 still coming.  I told by that while giving can be a nice thing, he should
 make sure he owned what he gave away, and that he would hurt himself and his
 species in the long wrong because without the "tires", the bananas would not
 get delivered.  See, by taking the tires without paying, he reduced the
 incentive of the tire company to produce tires, and in fact, cuts into their
 capital and ability to make more tires.  The end result is that the tire
 company could go bankrupt, and the world would be short of tires...and tire
 swings.
 
 I think Mr. Skinner now understands, but I am not sure.  When I left, he was
 fling dung at the tourists, and hooting.  He was also pounding on his
 internet device with his buttocks, so I imagine a heated post will soon
 follow.
 
 HTH,
 
 Charles
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ""Stephen Skinner"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
  do you know ,you have "i need a MAN" as clear a day Printed on your
  forehead...
 
  BTW it appears someone beat me to it..nevermind hey..Maybe boson
  will update there protection now hey!!!
 
 
  love and kisses ..steve
 
  From: Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED],Cisco Group Study
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
  Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:54:54 -
  
  So, you are attempting to stir things up, is that it??  You are purposely
  trying to annoy people who want to learn here??  And who are teaching
  others??
  I am not implying this; I am merely stating your own words...How sad that
  you
  have no regard for yourself and yet you sign your e-mail...regards...
  
  You appear to be full of double talk and disrespect for people you could
  learn from.  Whatever you do, you should go ahead and do it and leave
 this
  group to their business and quit trying to get a rise out of people so
 you
  can sit and laugh from your chair at home or work or whereever you are.
  
  What you do is your own business, but someone who has no regards for
  themselves needs to work on that issue and try and find some happiness in
  their lives that is not based on the opinions or thoughts of another.  We
  only have to live with ourselves and our own self-respect.  Without that,
 I
  would think someone would have a pretty miserable existance.
  
  I am not saying anything about the rightness or the wrongness of
 supplying
  codes or whatever.  That is not my issue.  That's a personal thing that
  shouldn't concern anyone but yourself and who you do your business with.
  But
  the way you are going about things appears to be based on some other
 motive
  like "trying" to get a rise out of people", who probably have better
 things
  to do than waste their time replying to someone such as the likes of you.
  I
  just happen to have more time on my hands
  
  
  Jennifer Cribbs
  
  Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  
   
WEll WELL WELL.what a hornet`s nest i have stirred up..(still
 no
chuck or pris or paul)SORRY guys but the I`s have it with 78
Mails...wanting it and only 8 Mails condeming it .
   
You give me one good 

RE: want to find some friends participating CCNP exam

2001-01-12 Thread William E. Gragido

Welcome aboard, are you a CCNA?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
netho
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: want to find some friends participating CCNP exam


hi, everyone. I am a newcomer for this group. I am from beijing, china, and
have work in this fields for 3 years. Now I want to take part in CCNP exam,
first one is Routing. I am eager to find some friends who have taken part
it. Any advices are appreciated. Thanks.

Bruce

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RE: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster - Should be our poster child

2001-01-12 Thread William E. Gragido

Jeongwoo, All of the tea in China won't help someone who is only paper
certified.  I feel that you should do what all people must do at times when
an intense decision looms on the horizon; re-evaluate your situation.
Here's where I am going with that:  Ok, fine you have your CCNP, how much
experience do you have?  Before you make the mistake of over marketing
yourself, I would encourage you to evaluate yourself honestly and perhaps
you could get Chuck, Howard or Priscilla to act as sounding boards to you.
You're in a difficult position because of the time and effort that you
invested in studying for your exams, and I think we all appreciate that.
However, you will be doing yourself a sincere disservice if simply ignore
the good counsel that you are privvy to (as are all of us), based off of our
memberships and contributions to this list.  Lets add further complications
to the mix.  Let's say you go and pass the written and lab and your
experience is confined solely to sterile lab environments, how well do you
believe you will be recepted by employers?  I would imagine that regardless
of the fact that you had a number (hypothetically), you might encounter
similar disappointment in that most employers value
experience+certification.  Its a simple equation:
experience+certification=success.  If anyone sincerely disagrees with me on
this one, then I welcome the flames...bring'em on, however I maintain that
the marriage of certification+experience is what secures success and that
when people get paper crazy it only serves to degrade the value of the
certification.  My 2cents, you may begin your flamesin
five,four,three,two,one...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson Jr
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:28 PM
To: jeongwoo park; Groupstudy
Subject: Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster - Should be our
poster child


I started in this industry in 95 after a career change, I was a Chef for 12
years, and taught music for two years before that. Third career working with
computers. I want to be a lawyer next, fourth career. Whatever!! A friend of
mine had a family member who had a small consulting business, and I started
working with them when they needed a grunt. It was during the Win95 buzz
when people would pay for you to upgrade their OS. They used to get 179$ to
upgrade a computer with a licensed copy of Win95. Unbelievable!!! The
consultant company also did a lot of rewiring too, used to be a lot of Cat3
in those walls. So we would install Cat5. I swallowed a lot of dust bunnies
in the day. Got paid 7$ an hour but it was a start, and I would do it all
again because like you, I (and many here) love it. Now I have a great
position and great pay, the best part is, it's like I don't have a job, but
am getting paid for my hobby. So good luck Jeongwoo you will find something,
I know how you feel I was there. With the attitude you expressed in your
last post, you should be the poster child for all that is good about this
group, and certification, and this profession.
Duck


- Original Message -
From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster


 Hi group members!!
 I am the original poster of this thread.
 First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
 concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
 replies than I expected.

 There were some people who made a point on removing my
 ccnp cert from my resume.
 It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
 suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
 resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
 drain all of a sudden.
 However, I made up my mind not remove it.
 My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
 how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
 there is clear difference between ccna without
 experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
 employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
 there is obviously difference between these two guys
 in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
 potential performance that he or she might make.
 As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
 their careers from IT industry because of money. I
 agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
 also money can be one of strong motivation in
 advancing their living condition. But money doesn't
 give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
 does. I didn't even consider CCNP. I was going to
 start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
 certifications.
 But I couldn't stop my interest in knowing more on
 network knowledge.

 There might be some people who would say, " none of
 these guys would be hired."
 Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
 going to start his or her career in IT industry if
 everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
 That is why I am looking for 

RE: CCIE LAB Practice

2001-01-12 Thread William E. Gragido

Check out Fatkid.com, they have pretty descent virtual racks and scenarios

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
±èÈï¼ö
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:49 PM
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Subject: CCIE LAB Practice


Hi all

 I have completed the CCNA and CCNP, CCIE written Exam, and I am preparing
for the CCIE
Lab, you would please advise me of any practice CCIe-lab?

Would you also offer any tip or study method?


heung su kim


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Re: Boson vs. Colt (Ok...enough of this)

2001-01-12 Thread Curtis Call

Does the groupstudy list have usage restrictions that dictate whether you 
can continue to participate or not?  If so then I would say this fellow has 
certainly violated them and should be excluded from the list.


At 02:14 PM 1/12/01 +, you wrote:

do you know ,you have "i need a MAN" as clear a day Printed on your
forehead...

BTW it appears someone beat me to it..nevermind hey..Maybe boson
will update there protection now hey!!!


love and kisses ..steve

 From: Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED],Cisco Group Study
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:54:54 -
 
 So, you are attempting to stir things up, is that it??  You are purposely
 trying to annoy people who want to learn here??  And who are teaching
 others??
 I am not implying this; I am merely stating your own words...How sad that
 you
 have no regard for yourself and yet you sign your e-mail...regards...
 
 You appear to be full of double talk and disrespect for people you could
 learn from.  Whatever you do, you should go ahead and do it and leave this
 group to their business and quit trying to get a rise out of people so you
 can sit and laugh from your chair at home or work or whereever you are.
 
 What you do is your own business, but someone who has no regards for
 themselves needs to work on that issue and try and find some happiness in
 their lives that is not based on the opinions or thoughts of another.  We
 only have to live with ourselves and our own self-respect.  Without that, I
 would think someone would have a pretty miserable existance.
 
 I am not saying anything about the rightness or the wrongness of supplying
 codes or whatever.  That is not my issue.  That's a personal thing that
 shouldn't concern anyone but yourself and who you do your business with.
 But
 the way you are going about things appears to be based on some other motive
 like "trying" to get a rise out of people", who probably have better things
 to do than waste their time replying to someone such as the likes of you.
 I
 just happen to have more time on my hands
 
 
 Jennifer Cribbs
 
 Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  
   WEll WELL WELL.what a hornet`s nest i have stirred up..(still no
   chuck or pris or paul)SORRY guys but the I`s have it with 78
   Mails...wanting it and only 8 Mails condeming it .
  
   You give me one good reson not to and i won`t 
  
   By the way you can find it yourself it`s on the webBabY!!!
 (quick
   clue).
  
   regards
  
   steve (no personal regard for anyone but ME)
  
  
   From: \"Gautam Gupta\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
   Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:08:59 +0530
   
   Hi stephen
   i dont mind
   
   Gautam
   
   Stephen Skinner wrote:
   
 I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL
 the
 BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.

 anybody!..

 Sorry priscilla

 From: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: \"John Huston\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
 
 Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going
 to
   take
 test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will
 help
   you
 with the \"flavor\" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 \"\"Rah Sta\"\" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   To All,
  
   Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt?
 Example:
   BCRAN
   Opinions appreciated. Thanks
  
  
Raheem
  
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RE: Passed BSCN!

2001-01-12 Thread Lopez, Robert

I'm scheduled to take the test 2/12/01.  Any advice?  I have the course
materials and the Jeff Doyle book.  TIA!!

Robert

Robert M. Lopez   
Network Planning
Ann Arbor Data Center
Pfizer Global Research  Development
Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690

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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, all.

I  passed BSCN today with score 919. Thanks to the group members!

Regards,
Jaeheon

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RE: Boson vs. Colt ??????

2001-01-12 Thread William E. Gragido

Lets start another list dedicated to ethics shall we?  These
arguements(regardless of how valid they are), should be confined to a
separate list.  Paul, what do you think?  It should be known by now that the
list in and of itself does not advocate piracy, however that does not
guarantee that individuals do/or do not.  I would say that in an effort to
be proactive, these types of posts/threads should be either addressed
privately or confined to the realms of a separate list.  Have a happy ;-)

Will

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Huston
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:05 PM
To: 'Tony van Ree'; 'Stephen Skinner'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Boson vs. Colt ??


Please do not send me any other emails.  I don't have and don't want to have
the damn crack.  I said you should BUY the exams.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:42 PM
 To: Stephen Skinner; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??


 Hi,

 Define "FREE" when all of a sudden something either nol
 longer exists or has a price hike because some clown knocks it off.

 These things cost time and money to produce and are ongoing
 in research etc.  There is a chance you could be doing all a
 disservice.

 Sorry I disagree on this one.  They don't seem to be all that
 expensive yet anyway.

 Teunis
 Hobart, Tasmania
 Australia


 On Thursday, January 11, 2001 at 07:07:03 PM, Stephen Skinner wrote:

  I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack
 for ALL the
  BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.
 
  anybody!..
 
  Sorry priscilla
 
 
  From: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
  Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
  
  Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you
 are going to take
  test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written
 but will help you
  with the "flavor" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  ""Rah Sta"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To All,
   
Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or
 Colt? Example: BCRAN
Opinions appreciated. Thanks
   
   
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RE: Passed BSCN!

2001-01-12 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Jaeheon, that was a fine score.

What did you use to prepare for this (books, routers, www, etc.)???

Thanks,

Ole


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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 9:25 AM
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Subject: Passed BSCN!


Hi, all.

I  passed BSCN today with score 919. Thanks to the group members!

Regards,
Jaeheon

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RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

For statefull PIX failovers they do need to share info. In the scenario
below, a downed PIX would cause people to need to reconnect. In Pix's
statefull failover that would not happen. I guess there is a lot more at
issue here then I first thought. Like the static's and nat on the pix's. You
could not maintain that info in this scenario. You could not have both pix's
advertising the same global address either so it would not work.

-Original Message-
From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Christopher Larson; Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch


I imagine the problem comes when the PIX needs to know
the state of the data flow, like if it's an ongoing
TCP session or just random data. I'm not sure if this
is an issue. Do the PIXs need to share information? Do
the CSS do that for them?

--- Christopher Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not sure about CSS switches, and maybe your
 needs are special, but
 couldn't you just add a default route to both PIX's
 on each switch's RSM and
 turn off fast-switching. You will then get per
 packet load balancing between
 the switches and the pix's. 
 
 I have done this before between 6500's and routers
 in for high
 avail/reliability but not between the switches and
 PIX's. I don't know why
 it wouldn't work with the pix though .
 
 
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:39 PM
 To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
 
 
 We currently have our PIXs side by side right behind
 the internet routers. Then the PIXs connect into two
 redundant 6509s, which is our core.
 We are trying for high availibility, which the
 failover software already does for us. But I was
 thinking it probably was better to use both of them
 at
 the same time, more efficient and more throughput
 without having to buy 535. So I'm looking to load
 balance the two PIXs, which we can do with
 Checkpoint/Stonebeat combo.
 From the link you sent me on the 6509, it seems
 perhaps that I can use them to load balance to the
 PIXs from the inside? What is better for traffic
 coming from the internet to be load balanced on the
 PIX? The CSS or Local Director? The both seem to be
 for web or server traffic, but I can see them being
 used in other ways.
 Got any advice?
 Thanks.
 
 --- Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here are some links for the CSS switches. For the
  application that it
  appears that you are trying to run you will need
 the
  switches in front and
  behind the PIX boxes. The PIX 535 is out now and
  will do a Gig of
  throughput. What are you trying to accomplish? You
  can run PIXes in a
  active/passive config if it is high availability
  that you are looking for.
  Give me a little more on the design that you are
  doing.
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/11000/prodlit/
  
  
  or load balance on the 6500
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/ios6k_wp.htm
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/aslb_wp.htm
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Yonkerbonk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Wayne Lawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Tommy
  Mitchell"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 "cisco@groupstudy.
  com (E-mail)"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:46 PM
  Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
  Switch
  
  
  Hi Wayne,
  
  Could you point me to some information on the
 CSSes
  and how to configure for load balancing? I was
  looking
  at Local Director and Alteon boxes to do that for
  two
  PIXs. Do I need them on both he outside and
 inside?
  Thanks.
  
  
  --- Wayne Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tommy,
  
 Actually you CAN have the CSS in an "active /
   active" mode
   with true firewall load balancing.
  
   Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244
   Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc.
   2000 Town Center, Suite 450
   Southfield, Michigan 48075
  
   Voice:  (248) 455 - 1663
   Cell:  (248) 709 - 5797
   Pager: (800) 365 - 4578
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Tommy Mitchell
   Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:15 AM
   To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
   Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
   Switch
  
  
   Yes, they can unless you're trying to
 load-balance
   firewalls.  Try to
   load-balance firewalls and you have to go
   active-standby.
  
   Tommy
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Muhammad Faheem" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)"
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM
   Subject: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
  
  
Hi All
   
Just wanted to know that Cisco Content Switch
   (CSS-11000  CSS-11800) can
work as Active - Active or not.
   
Thanks for Input
   
Muhammad Faheem
Systems 

RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

I suppose maybe you could still get this to work through a combination of
the discussed and some DNS manipulation, but I would have to think to much
to figure it out, and I suppose that is part of what the CSS is addressing.
I can see where if the CSS had a single address that pointed to multiple
advertised globals on seperate pix's this would be easier, but then for high
availability won't you also need 2 CSS'? Now my cusriosity is peaked. I
think I should research the CSS' and what they do exactly to allow for
firewall load balancing.  





Original Message-
From: Christopher Larson 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:14 AM
To: 'Yonkerbonk'; Christopher Larson; Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch


For statefull PIX failovers they do need to share info. In the scenario
below, a downed PIX would cause people to need to reconnect. In Pix's
statefull failover that would not happen. I guess there is a lot more at
issue here then I first thought. Like the static's and nat on the pix's. You
could not maintain that info in this scenario. You could not have both pix's
advertising the same global address either so it would not work.

-Original Message-
From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Christopher Larson; Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch


I imagine the problem comes when the PIX needs to know
the state of the data flow, like if it's an ongoing
TCP session or just random data. I'm not sure if this
is an issue. Do the PIXs need to share information? Do
the CSS do that for them?

--- Christopher Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not sure about CSS switches, and maybe your
 needs are special, but
 couldn't you just add a default route to both PIX's
 on each switch's RSM and
 turn off fast-switching. You will then get per
 packet load balancing between
 the switches and the pix's. 
 
 I have done this before between 6500's and routers
 in for high
 avail/reliability but not between the switches and
 PIX's. I don't know why
 it wouldn't work with the pix though .
 
 
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:39 PM
 To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
 Switch
 
 
 We currently have our PIXs side by side right behind
 the internet routers. Then the PIXs connect into two
 redundant 6509s, which is our core.
 We are trying for high availibility, which the
 failover software already does for us. But I was
 thinking it probably was better to use both of them
 at
 the same time, more efficient and more throughput
 without having to buy 535. So I'm looking to load
 balance the two PIXs, which we can do with
 Checkpoint/Stonebeat combo.
 From the link you sent me on the 6509, it seems
 perhaps that I can use them to load balance to the
 PIXs from the inside? What is better for traffic
 coming from the internet to be load balanced on the
 PIX? The CSS or Local Director? The both seem to be
 for web or server traffic, but I can see them being
 used in other ways.
 Got any advice?
 Thanks.
 
 --- Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here are some links for the CSS switches. For the
  application that it
  appears that you are trying to run you will need
 the
  switches in front and
  behind the PIX boxes. The PIX 535 is out now and
  will do a Gig of
  throughput. What are you trying to accomplish? You
  can run PIXes in a
  active/passive config if it is high availability
  that you are looking for.
  Give me a little more on the design that you are
  doing.
  
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/11000/prodlit/
  
  
  or load balance on the 6500
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/ios6k_wp.htm
 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/aslb_wp.htm
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Yonkerbonk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Wayne Lawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Tommy
  Mitchell"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 "cisco@groupstudy.
  com (E-mail)"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:46 PM
  Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
  Switch
  
  
  Hi Wayne,
  
  Could you point me to some information on the
 CSSes
  and how to configure for load balancing? I was
  looking
  at Local Director and Alteon boxes to do that for
  two
  PIXs. Do I need them on both he outside and
 inside?
  Thanks.
  
  
  --- Wayne Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tommy,
  
 Actually you CAN have the CSS in an "active /
   active" mode
   with true firewall load balancing.
  
   Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244
   Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc.
   2000 Town Center, Suite 450
   Southfield, Michigan 48075
  
   Voice:  (248) 455 - 1663
   Cell:  (248) 709 - 5797
   Pager: (800) 365 - 4578
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 

Software Piracy on Group Study

2001-01-12 Thread David Rajala

Dear Cisco Group Study Readers:

First and foremost, I wanted to send a big THANK YOU to those concerned
customers and authors out there defending what we are trying to do.
Everyone at Boson Software truly does appreciate that.  I am glad to see
that there are so many honest and good people here on Group Study.

Our sales model is openly posted at www.boson.com.  It is a profit-sharing
model that Boson Software has created, to allow highly qualified individuals
to create practice tests, based on their own real-world experiences, and
sell their quality work at a LOW COST through our company.

We operate on very tight margins, and count on the quantity of sales and low
cost of company operation (overhead) to make money.  It is unfortunate to
see people out there trying to provide cracks to our software, when our most
expensive practice test costs only $29.95.  It's not like we are one of the
many other testing companies out there, charging upwards of $179.95, for
what I believe in most cases to be an inferior product to our own.

With the continued support of the honest users out there like yourselves, we
can continue the fight against piracy, and maintain our low product cost to
you the consumer.

Sincerely,
David Rajala, CEO
Boson Software, Inc.


- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Stephen Skinner'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: Boson vs. Colt ??


 I spent several weeks writing questions for a boson exam and only see
 compensation when they are downloaded, so what your telling me and any
other
 potential authors on the list is that we shouldn't bother, because you
don't
 value our efforts.

 I'm going to forward you e-mail to them and see if they have an opinion.

 Thanks...
 - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??


 I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL the
 BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.

 anybody!..

 Sorry priscilla


 From: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
 
 Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going to
take
 test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will help you
 with the "flavor" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 ""Rah Sta"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   To All,
  
   Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example:
BCRAN
   Opinions appreciated. Thanks
  
  
Raheem
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OT: Little ID card

2001-01-12 Thread Steven Dangerfield

Don't want to sound too fussy, but,

Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit card sized 
id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've got. These 
sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and got one of 
these let me know !

Steve

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B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA

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Re: Software Piracy on Group Study

2001-01-12 Thread netlinesys

Dear David,

I Just want to thank you for your product and say , that almost every
product I purchased from you worth every $ I paid .. maybe you should
consider securing the registration to stop new hackers from braking into the
codes .

"David Rajala" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
016301c07cb3$1daa63b0$0b01010a@davew2k">news:016301c07cb3$1daa63b0$0b01010a@davew2k...
 Dear Cisco Group Study Readers:

 First and foremost, I wanted to send a big THANK YOU to those concerned
 customers and authors out there defending what we are trying to do.
 Everyone at Boson Software truly does appreciate that.  I am glad to see
 that there are so many honest and good people here on Group Study.

 Our sales model is openly posted at www.boson.com.  It is a profit-sharing
 model that Boson Software has created, to allow highly qualified
individuals
 to create practice tests, based on their own real-world experiences, and
 sell their quality work at a LOW COST through our company.

 We operate on very tight margins, and count on the quantity of sales and
low
 cost of company operation (overhead) to make money.  It is unfortunate to
 see people out there trying to provide cracks to our software, when our
most
 expensive practice test costs only $29.95.  It's not like we are one of
the
 many other testing companies out there, charging upwards of $179.95, for
 what I believe in most cases to be an inferior product to our own.

 With the continued support of the honest users out there like yourselves,
we
 can continue the fight against piracy, and maintain our low product cost
to
 you the consumer.

 Sincerely,
 David Rajala, CEO
 Boson Software, Inc.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'Stephen Skinner'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:27 PM
 Subject: RE: Boson vs. Colt ??


  I spent several weeks writing questions for a boson exam and only see
  compensation when they are downloaded, so what your telling me and any
 other
  potential authors on the list is that we shouldn't bother, because you
 don't
  value our efforts.
 
  I'm going to forward you e-mail to them and see if they have an opinion.
 
  Thanks...
  - Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 
 
  I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL the
  BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.
 
  anybody!..
 
  Sorry priscilla
 
 
  From: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
  Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
  
  Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going to
 take
  test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will help
you
  with the "flavor" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  ""Rah Sta"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
To All,
   
Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example:
 BCRAN
Opinions appreciated. Thanks
   
   
 Raheem
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Re: LAN-to-WAN performance of cisco router?

2001-01-12 Thread Michael Fountain

Here is the numbers I've seen
261x =
  Fast - 12Kpps
  Processing - 1.5Kpps
262x =
  Fast - 23Kpps
  Process - 2Kpps
265x =
  Fast - 36Kpps
  Process - ??? probably around 3Kpps

3620 =
  Fast - 30Kpps
  Process - 2Kpps
3640 =
  Fast - 60Kpps
  Process - 4Kpps
3660 =
  Fast - 100Kpps
  Process - 10Kpps





I believe the 2621 was like 25000 pps
and the 2651 was 35000 pps

I don't know about the 3600 though.

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  I need to know that what is the packet
  forwarding rate from LAN-to-WAN of cisco router
  esp. cisco 2600, and cisco 3600. How many pps it
  can do?
  If anybody know please tell me and show me the
  reference.
 
  Thank you.
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RE: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.....

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer

What you need to do is use tunnels with frame relay to fix this. You have
the cause exactly right too. There is no equivalent to the ip ospf network
command.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Nigel Taylor
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:11 AM
To: Cisco Group Study; CCIE_Lab Group Study
Subject: ISIS over frame-relay troubles.


Hi All,
   I'm just trying to get a handle on ISIS over frame relay.  It =
would seem that because there's no comparable command to the "ip ospf =
network" under ISIS that this limits the configuration options over =
frame-relay.  It's noted that cisco serial interface with frame-relay =
encapsulation defaults to a multi-point interface. For some reason I =
can't get ISIS neighbor adjacencies being formed using a full mesh =
frame-relay cloud.=20

I'm using the configuration example in Doyle's Routing TCP/IP, pg. 652.  =
I replaced the ethernet segment between the L2 devices(London, Rome, and =
Brussels) with frame-relay.  In my frame-relay configurations I'm able =
to ping all points of the cloud but I'm unable to get adjacencies to =
form.  All routers are configured with physical interface(multi-point, =
being the default) but I still get encapsulation failure when observing =
the "debug isis adj-packets".  Now I've got this to work when the =
devices are configured using  point-to-point sub-interfaces in a partial =
mesh(hub and spoke topology) and the  hub configured for individual =
p-t-p's for each pvc.

I am however trying to simulate the ethernet segment I'm replacing.. I'm =
I thinking way "out the box" here or is this possible"

For reference there's a basic example on pg. 678 of Doyle's book that =
covers the frame-relay issue I'm trying to resolve...


Thanks All,

Nigel.

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RE: Software Piracy on Group Study

2001-01-12 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)

It is secured -that's what hacking is.  They are removing the protection
from the software.  Getting more secured than it already is very expensive
and doesn't last long - news flash...hackers are smart!

Roman

P.S.  The software is definitely the best thing going for practice tests out
there.  They really are a great value in my personal opinion.

-Original Message-
From: netlinesys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Software Piracy on Group Study


Dear David,

I Just want to thank you for your product and say , that almost every
product I purchased from you worth every $ I paid .. maybe you should
consider securing the registration to stop new hackers from braking into the
codes .

"David Rajala" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
016301c07cb3$1daa63b0$0b01010a@davew2k">news:016301c07cb3$1daa63b0$0b01010a@davew2k...
 Dear Cisco Group Study Readers:

 First and foremost, I wanted to send a big THANK YOU to those concerned
 customers and authors out there defending what we are trying to do.
 Everyone at Boson Software truly does appreciate that.  I am glad to see
 that there are so many honest and good people here on Group Study.

 Our sales model is openly posted at www.boson.com.  It is a profit-sharing
 model that Boson Software has created, to allow highly qualified
individuals
 to create practice tests, based on their own real-world experiences, and
 sell their quality work at a LOW COST through our company.

 We operate on very tight margins, and count on the quantity of sales and
low
 cost of company operation (overhead) to make money.  It is unfortunate to
 see people out there trying to provide cracks to our software, when our
most
 expensive practice test costs only $29.95.  It's not like we are one of
the
 many other testing companies out there, charging upwards of $179.95, for
 what I believe in most cases to be an inferior product to our own.

 With the continued support of the honest users out there like yourselves,
we
 can continue the fight against piracy, and maintain our low product cost
to
 you the consumer.

 Sincerely,
 David Rajala, CEO
 Boson Software, Inc.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Dennis Laganiere" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "'Stephen Skinner'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:27 PM
 Subject: RE: Boson vs. Colt ??


  I spent several weeks writing questions for a boson exam and only see
  compensation when they are downloaded, so what your telling me and any
 other
  potential authors on the list is that we shouldn't bother, because you
 don't
  value our efforts.
 
  I'm going to forward you e-mail to them and see if they have an opinion.
 
  Thanks...
  - Dennis
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
 
 
  I AM ABOUT TO BECOME REALLY UNPOPULARbut i have a crack for ALL the
  BOSON test so you can get the FULL version for FREE.
 
  anybody!..
 
  Sorry priscilla
 
 
  From: "John Huston" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Boson vs. Colt ??
  Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:27:53 -0600
  
  Buy all of the Boson tests for the subject test that you are going to
 take
  test your knowledge.  The COLT tests are poorly written but will help
you
  with the "flavor" of the actual Cisco certification exam.
  
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To All,
   
Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example:
 BCRAN
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BRI Configuration

2001-01-12 Thread carmelo Garofalo

Hy Guys,
I have a configuration for my Cisco Router 3640 on the BRI that it is a
backup interface for Serial line:


interface Serial1/0
 description Collegamento CDN 512 Kb con sede Milano-San Martino
 ip address 132.96.140.2 255.255.255.0
 backup delay 5 20
 backup interface BRI2/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache

*
 The configuration for the BRI2/0 is :


interface BRI2/0
 description Collegamento di backup linea MI-ROMA
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 132.96.87.1 name R01rxxxcomm1itl broadcast 5843
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink

!
!
ip route 132.94.87.1 255.255.255.255 BRI2/0 200
!
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit



When i shutdown the serial line (Serial 1/0), the BRI2/0 is in standby mode
and the link don't come up.

What is it the your Opinion ?

Can You help me to find the solution?

Any suggestion will have appreciated.

Regards, Carmelo



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Re: BOSON CRACK - Don't do it!!

2001-01-12 Thread Cthulu

Natasha,

Ethics and honesty aside, that is a good point you made.  Any yabob with
access to BackOrifice and its components such as silk rope can very easily
modify the executeable to perform certain tasks and to listen on certain
ports.

Thanks for reminding us about that.

Charles


"Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wouldn't suggest using this crack and it has nothing to do cheating
 the company or the software designers. That alone raises my dander! The
 crack that you found may or may not work however it's a small executable
 program written by some unknown hacker that's most likely makes registry
 changes and anything else it decides to do. Have you ever considered
 that it may be a time bomb Trojan?
 And you just invited it in
 I'm glad that you're not on my network!
 Natasha


 micheal jackson wrote:
 
  i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack
 
  WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE
ENCLUDED
  IT IN THIS E-MAIL
 
  KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I DOWNLOADED
  YESTERDAY.
 
  SEE YA
 
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RE: Little ID card

2001-01-12 Thread Taylor, Don

Yep, ya sure do. I've got two new ones since getting my NP/DP certs.

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Don't want to sound too fussy, but,

Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit card
sized 
id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've got.
These 
sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and got one
of 
these let me know !

Steve

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RE: BRI Configuration

2001-01-12 Thread Christopher Larson

Simply doing a shutdown on an interface will not bring up the backup line in
this scenario as it is administratively down. You would need to unplug the
serial line from the router or change the encaps on one side to make it go
down other then adminstrativly

-Original Message-
From: carmelo Garofalo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BRI Configuration


Hy Guys,
I have a configuration for my Cisco Router 3640 on the BRI that it is a
backup interface for Serial line:


interface Serial1/0
 description Collegamento CDN 512 Kb con sede Milano-San Martino
 ip address 132.96.140.2 255.255.255.0
 backup delay 5 20
 backup interface BRI2/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache

*
 The configuration for the BRI2/0 is :


interface BRI2/0
 description Collegamento di backup linea MI-ROMA
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer map ip 132.96.87.1 name R01rxxxcomm1itl broadcast 5843
 dialer load-threshold 1 outbound
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink

!
!
ip route 132.94.87.1 255.255.255.255 BRI2/0 200
!
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit



When i shutdown the serial line (Serial 1/0), the BRI2/0 is in standby mode
and the link don't come up.

What is it the your Opinion ?

Can You help me to find the solution?

Any suggestion will have appreciated.

Regards, Carmelo



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Re: I HAVE THE BOSON CRACK

2001-01-12 Thread Kevin L. Kultgen

So No to crack!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~remcodek/crack.html

Warning: Some viewers may find this offensive.

 i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack

 WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE
ENCLUDED
 IT IN THIS E-MAIL


 KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I DOWNLOADED
 YESTERDAY.


 SEE YA

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RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer


This is what you want:

http://www.roble.com/docs/fw1_or_pix.html

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Imran Obaidullah M
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:23 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: PIX vs CheckPoint


Hi friends,

I have few basic questions,

1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).

2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.

Please send me the details

Thanks

imran

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RE: BOSON CRACK - Don't do it!!

2001-01-12 Thread William E. Gragido

I wrote a response to this original thread and I am not sure that it was
posted, but I will summarize by saying that these types of discussions
should be taken off line or on another list.  Why you may ask?  Well, here
is what I think:  If you read Paul's terms page, advocating piracy is not
allowed; simply put if someone has a crack or generator they should not be
posting it on this list.  It is not wise from the vantage point of
'groupstudy' to support what is obvisouly a controversial/ethically
challenged subject.  Does this guarantee that a person will not be able to
access these types of cracks/generators?  Not hardly, but rather it implies
that this group is not the forum for debate and or discussion with regards
such issues.  So what is the solution?  I don't know, however what I do know
is that people will trade amongst themselves regardless of the chastising
that they may receive here.  Ok, let the flames begin


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Cthulu
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BOSON CRACK - Don't do it!!


Natasha,

Ethics and honesty aside, that is a good point you made.  Any yabob with
access to BackOrifice and its components such as silk rope can very easily
modify the executeable to perform certain tasks and to listen on certain
ports.

Thanks for reminding us about that.

Charles


"Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wouldn't suggest using this crack and it has nothing to do cheating
 the company or the software designers. That alone raises my dander! The
 crack that you found may or may not work however it's a small executable
 program written by some unknown hacker that's most likely makes registry
 changes and anything else it decides to do. Have you ever considered
 that it may be a time bomb Trojan?
 And you just invited it in
 I'm glad that you're not on my network!
 Natasha


 micheal jackson wrote:
 
  i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack
 
  WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE
ENCLUDED
  IT IN THIS E-MAIL
 
  KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I DOWNLOADED
  YESTERDAY.
 
  SEE YA
 
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BCMSN/Switching2.0: Here's the Gouge...

2001-01-12 Thread Jennifer Mellone

Forgot to send this yesterday...

I'm debriefing myself the same day I passed this test (my second CCNP
test-BSCN/Routing 2.0 was first), so the information I share is fresh in my
head.  I hope it helps some folks out there.  This is kind of long...

The Breakdown:
64 questions, 75 minutes, need 699 (on a scale of 300-100) to pass.
It took me 53 minutes, and I'm a slow test taker.

Section Analysis (number of questions, difficulty, etc.):
CGMP- a few; easy questions
Cisco Fundamentals- a few; easy basic router type of questions
Multicast- some; wasn't as hard as Boson.  PIM, definitions, IP-MAC
conversion, etc.
Multilayer Switching- some; wasn't as hard as Boson. Config., etc.
Spanning Tree- lots of questions; not too bad.  States, root bridge, timers,
etc.
Switching Interconnectivity- some; they make you think
Troubleshooting- a few curve balls
Trunking- lots of questions; some really make you think. Negotiation,
encapsulation, vtp, etc.
Vlan Operations- lots of questions; not that bad

Types of Questions:
1) Theory, where you have to pick the best 2 or 3 answers of the bunch.
2) What command do you use to do xxx.  These were straight multiple choice,
with 1 free form type in the command question.  Other folks get 1-2 more
from what I heard.  I had IOS and set-based switch commands.
3) Drag  drop "matching" style- kind of fun.
4) Several "which switch would you choose in this situation" types of
questions (Boson is good prep for this).
5) Other product related information, but not really extensive.

Resources:
1. I used Cisco Press BCMSN-CCNP by Karen Webb.  It is bread and butter for
the test and
keeps you focused on what you need to know for the test, rather than having
to dig around multiple sources (I hate that).  It's very nicely written and
understandable.
2. Supplemental resource to further explain things that you don't fully
understand from the above is Clark  Hamilton's CLSC-CCIE Cisco Press book.
I used this for reference during my studies, not for reading cover to cover.
It's a very fat book, that's why.  I do use it for real-life work stuff and
it's a wonderful Bible.

Practice Tests (do after you think you're done studying for the test):
1. Boson (I bought test 2 of 2).  Each of 4 quizzes in test 2 had about 51
questions, so test 2 had 204 total questions.  Some questions stressed the
same stuff, but that's ok so I can retain and take each quiz just once.
Test 1 or 2 can be downloaded for about $30 each from http://www.boson.com/)
2. Free CCO/Colt (strange wording that will deflate your confidence if you
use that as a basis for your understanding, plus they don't give you the
answers; they just tell you which questions you answered wrong)
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl
3. Boson vs. Colt vs. The Real Thing:
I took Boson BCMSN Test #2 quiz A, B, and C and got 77, 75, 69, and 79 (in
that order).
I took Colt "BCMSN post assessment" and got 48/63 (passing score 47-ouch!).
I studied in between tests to go over what I messed up on.
But on the real thing I got 912 (passing score 699).  So I passed by a very
comfortable margin.

Misc. Comments:  There is no such thing as too much studying!  I taught an
internal CCIE study group switching class the night before my test.
Prepping for that helped me prep for the test, and vice versa.  Some
questions really make you think and apply what you learned;  others are
simply recalling things by rote (those of course, are the easy ones).  I was
grateful that the questions were succinctly written.  They didn't take that
long to read compared to Boson tests and Routing 2.0 test.  That was nice.
But sometimes I wondered if I was reading too much into it because of the
brevity.  Test wasn't as hard as Routing 2.0, but that's because of my
experience and familiarity with the switches (the set kind, not IOS).  The
things I had to work at the most were multicast and multilayer switching,
because the theory was new for me.  The moderate stuff was more familiar
(spantree, vtp, etc.).  But don't forget to study the easy stuff too because
I had to do "eeny meeny miny mo" between 2 choices several times during the
test!  I had to work at the IOS switches too because I don't use them.  And
all those quirky commands on the set switches that I don't use either.  I
noticed the questions were in "chunks" (e.g., the multicast questions were
all in a row toward the end).  I like that;  Routing 2.0 was the same way.
I was unsure about alot of my answer selections as I progressed through the
test (which got easier toward the end, like Routing 2.0), and was wondering
right from the very beginning if I was going to make it.  I did :-)

Scary Moments:
Had to re-download the test at Sylvan's.  My name was grayed out on the
computer (couldn't be selected), so I started the test 30 minutes late.  But
that was ok.  When I got to question 45 out of 64, I clicked next to advance
to question 46.  The computer hung a bit and I heard the hard drive making

RE: Config help required

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer


Just enter the following commands to remove the parts you don't need. You
can even cut and paste it from the enable mode after typing config t

interface Serial0
description Frame-Relay 56K
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 17
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 21
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 22
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 23
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 26
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 27
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 30
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 31
frame-relay inverse-arp IP 32


Once you have done this, save the config with the write command and then
reload your router and all the deleted DLCIs will disappear.

Regards,

David Wolsefer

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CCIE LAB

2001-01-12 Thread rajeev_ks@



Need help about CCIE LAB preparation.
Finished my Qual last october 2000.
Pls respond.

Rajeev.
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ISDN Simulator

2001-01-12 Thread Prasanna

Hello all,
We have a problem with a lab scenario regarding ISDN. There are two
routers whose bri interfaces plug into the ports of the ISDN Simulator.

Regarding the ISDN int, this was the config we did and layer 2 was up and
SPIDs were being sent but no calls were getting established at layer 3. What
could be the problem. We used the SPIDs and DN as given in the
specifications of the ISDN Simulator. I have also restarted the simulatoe a
couple of times to see it it is initializing and it is doing that.

 interface BRI0
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 isdn spid2 0835866401 8358664
 dialer map ip 192.168.1.1 name r3 broadcast
 dialer-group 1
!
router rip
 network 192.168.1.0
!
no ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!

If somebody could explain the configuration to be made it would be great.
Regards,
Prasanna



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Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark

Not a bad article in here but just a little more.  I have both the
Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525.  I bought the 525's because I was tiered of
dealing with Checkpoint.  CKP is terrible at customer support and licensing,
and I am not saying this from just my experience.  I was in the classes
recently and all the folks there expressed the same issues.  Support is
expensive and not so bad with Pix.  Remember that with CKP you rely on the
box and OS you run and that has been a performance problem for us. In
addition you had better know how to harden the box with CKP.  I guess my
opinion is that a hardware device is almost always a better solution. Dollar
for Dollar the PIx is the better solution.

Good Luck
ML
"Imran Obaidullah M" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002">news:F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002...
 Hi friends,

 I have few basic questions,

 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
 ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
 Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).

 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
 difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.

 Please send me the details

 Thanks

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Re: ISDN Simulator

2001-01-12 Thread Brian Howard

Hi,

Here is a sample config.

Under the interface - you need the actual dialing number in the dialer map.

-Brian


rp-2503A#wr t
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.1
service udp-small-servers
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname rp-2503A
!
enable secret 5 $1$EC8c$2sYBnNhThYjnGKrWD/E8/.
enable password ww
!
username rp-2503B password 7 1511021F0725
ip subnet-zero
isdn switch-type basic-5ess
!
interface Loopback0
  ip address 1.0.3.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
  ip address 130.30.0.4 255.255.255.192
!
interface Serial0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
  no keepalive
  clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
  ip address 130.30.12.1 255.255.255.252
  frame-relay interface-dlci 30
!
interface Serial1
  no ip address
  shutdown
!
interface BRI0
  no ip address
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer map ip 1.1.1.1 name router broadcast 
919194720996   -
  dialer-group 1
  ppp authentication chap
!
router ospf 3100
  network 130.30.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  network 130.30.12.0 0.0.0.255 area 3
!
ip classless
ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
line con 0
line aux 0
  transport input all
line vty 0 4
  password ww
  login
!
end

rp-2503A#


At 12:40 AM 01/12/2001 -0500, Prasanna wrote:
Hello all,
 We have a problem with a lab scenario regarding ISDN. There are two
routers whose bri interfaces plug into the ports of the ISDN Simulator.

Regarding the ISDN int, this was the config we did and layer 2 was up and
SPIDs were being sent but no calls were getting established at layer 3. What
could be the problem. We used the SPIDs and DN as given in the
specifications of the ISDN Simulator. I have also restarted the simulatoe a
couple of times to see it it is initializing and it is doing that.

  interface BRI0
  ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
  encapsulation ppp
  isdn spid2 0835866401 8358664
  dialer map ip 192.168.1.1 name r3 broadcast
  dialer-group 1
!
router rip
  network 192.168.1.0
!
no ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!

If somebody could explain the configuration to be made it would be great.
Regards,
Prasanna



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RE: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster

2001-01-12 Thread Mark Krysinski

There are many instructors with no real world experience.  Do what makes you
feel good, the rest will take care of itself.

Mark Krysinski
CTO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
jeongwoo park
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:56 PM
To: Groupstudy
Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster


Hi group members!!
I am the original poster of this thread.
First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
replies than I expected.

There were some people who made a point on removing my
ccnp cert from my resume.
It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
drain all of a sudden.
However, I made up my mind not remove it.
My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
there is clear difference between ccna without
experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
there is obviously difference between these two guys
in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
potential performance that he or she might make.
As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
their careers from IT industry because of money. I
agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
also money can be one of strong motivation in
advancing their living condition. But money doesnÂ’t
give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
does. I didnÂ’t even consider CCNP. I was going to
start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
certifications.
But I couldnÂ’t stop my interest in knowing more on
network knowledge.

There might be some people who would say, “ none of
these guys would be hired.”
Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
going to start his or her career in IT industry if
everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
That is why I am looking for entry level of job. I
wouldnÂ’t be able to perform in the beginning as much
as years of experienced CCNP would do. But I am sure
that I could learn things faster than most of
entry-level job applicants.
If nobody offers me a job, I would go for CCIE without
any corporation experience. I would buy network
devices, and take ccie lab classes. I wonder if there
is anyone who made ccie without any corporation
experience. I wish there were. If not, I will be the
first one who becomes ccie without experience. I am
not talking about home-network or training school
network experience. I am talking about the experience
that can be obtained as a network engineer.
I know it would be harder to become ccie without real
world experience, but I believe that lots of members
who showed their concern would be with me.
When I become CCIE, I will put nothing but CCIE, and
see if anyone gives me job offer.
I wonder if people who emphasizes on only experience
still wouldnÂ’t hire me.

For the people who are already out there and working
for company without any certification, I respect them
because they might have had harder time on getting a
job than I do.

Since I posted my message, I had some job interviews.
Well, I will see how it will go.
Once again, Thanks you for encouragement and advices.
I will definitely let you know if I got hired.


jeongwoo



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Re: AVVID Certification

2001-01-12 Thread Curious

I've searched Cisco's page and do not see such a certification.  If one
exists, do they have an outline for it?


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 Has anybody taken the Understanding PBX Systems and Technology online at
 www.certification.net?  I've taken the CIPT test at Prometric.  I can't
seem
 to find any reference materials for the PBX test.  Taken it and failed a
 couple of times already.

 Any assistance would be appreciated.


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http://www.cisco.com/wwtraining/colt/

2001-01-12 Thread Jake

http://www.cisco.com/wwtraining/colt/


"Jennifer Cribbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Good Morning!

 I have been doing a search for the colt tests and I can't seem to find out
 anything on these.  Does anyone know the url where these tests are
located?

 Thanks in advance..

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 Have a good day!!!
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Challenging !

2001-01-12 Thread Pierre-Alex GUANEL


I been it on it since 4am. Still can't figure that one out ...

From Cisco:

"After the token is claimed and changed to an information frame, only stations with 
priority higher than the trasmitting station can reserve the token for the next pass 
around the network. When the next token is generated, it includes the highest priority 
of the reserving station. Stations that raise a token's priority level must reinstate 
the previous lower priority level after their transmission is complete"

CASE SCENARIO:

I have 3 stations: A , B, and C Their resective priorities are 1 , 4, and 5. Station X 
Y Z have priority 0
Station A grabs the token (the priority at the time was 0) and and put data on it. 
While it goes around the ring, station B reserves the token for itself. When the token 
comes back to station A (we assume  X was the destination), A creates a new token with 
priority 4 and no reservation set. 

QUESTIONS: 

Question: Is the last statement of my case scenario correct or is it the other way 
arround? (A creates a new token ring with the previous priority: 0  and set the 
reservation to 4). 

DIAGRAM: The ring

A---W---BCX-
|Z---Y-|

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Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark Holloway

Where I work we have two PIX Firewalls (520), one strictly for Internet
usage (e-commerce), the other for corporate Internet access + Extranets.
When I went to PIX training, everyone there had already worked with
Checkpoint Firewalls, and so I heard some good feedback in regards to
comparisons.

My experience with the PIX (520) has been totally positive given our
configurations.  The hardware is easy .. it's an ATX style PC with a Pentium
II/III CPU.  I would have to say, logically, the PIX would perform faster
since there is no hard drive.  Everything is in RAM (like a solid state
system).  Checkpoint runs on top of NT or Solaris, so there may be more
overhead.  However, the PIX is really a Layer 3 Firewall, although you can
load the PFSS NT service on a server and manually enter URLs to block.  To
go further than that, you need to run Websense, which is a package that the
PIX talks directly to (on an NT or Solaris box) and you create Groups and
based on those groups, users will be allowed/blocked from visitin certain
web sites.  Very similar to MS Proxy Server's group security.  We are
running it here at work (5000+ hosts), but I think that the extra overhead
of Websense may have an impact on overall performance (suddenly your super
fast PIX box isn't so super fast, it's the same as any other due to the
Websense bottleneck)..

As for Checkpoint, it goes far beyond layer 3.  Most people in my PIX class
seemed to like Nokia's version of Checkpoint in a FreeBSD box rather than
the NT version of Checkpoint.  Beyond that I cannot say much..

Regards,
Mark Holloway


"Imran Obaidullah M" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002">news:F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002...
 Hi friends,

 I have few basic questions,

 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
 ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
 Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).

 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
 difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.

 Please send me the details

 Thanks

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Re: Router Serial Number

2001-01-12 Thread tl5footer

try sho hardware
""Jake"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hi all,

 'show version' on a switch (2900 or 3500) will show the switch's serial
 number (second to last line - right before the config-register).  Is there
a
 similar way to find the serial number of a router?  I can't find it in the
 'sh ver' output.

 Thanks,

 Jake


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ethernet and ios upgrade on cisco 4000

2001-01-12 Thread Rahman, Abdul

All:

I am having trouble configuring and ethernet module for a cisco 4000
running ios 9.1.  Yes i know, i should upgrade, that is part of the problem.
Since this is the only module that i have, i wanted to use this module to
tftp a new copy of the ios.  I at least wanted to see if the interface was
DOA,
or if i could configure simple interfaces with the 9.x ios.

I know this is a cluggy problem, but any help would be appreciated.  If you
step
out of the scope of this issue to give a 'creative' solution then by all
means
indulge me.

Thank you for your assistance.

Best regards,

Abdul Rahman

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Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread

2001-01-12 Thread Jennifer Cribbs

Hello,

I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it 
for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to 
groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX.  The only 
thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that 
was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is 
familiar with.  I would also like to please ask people not to reply to 
anything else Mr.Skinner says about me.  It does not matter.  I am not 
responding anymore.  I thank everyone for the support.

I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this 
could possibly occur.  I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like 
it.  I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember.

Thank you,
Jennifer Cribbs
---

Good Afternoon,

I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention.  I am enclosing a 
thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to 
read.  There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest 
from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something 
similiar.  Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and 
so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received 
numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's 
reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this.  My 
first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to 
apologize for anyone else's e-mail.  Noone is responsible for their actions 
except that person.  

This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up 
good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this 
groupstudy.  And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, 
which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying 
he is here to play games with people.  Anyone can be tempted, especially if 
their finances might be in trouble.  Even for a $30.00 Boson test.  But is 
this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no 
repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn.  He is trying to get a 
rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic 
principles of honesty and intregrity.  And he has insulted me, and my 
husband!  

I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this 
properly and promptly.  I would very much like a reply to this please and 
would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any 
further actions regarding this.  I feel a public post would be appropriate in 
this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, 
since many are upset. 

I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response 
to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it??  This 
is a very real problem.  

I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker.  I have never been 
labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know what 
to do or how to handle this

Thank you,
Jennifer Cribbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: DTE DCE Cable problem

2001-01-12 Thread info

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/534/cables.html

this link has part numbers...not specificationsas asked
in the original question


Daniel Cotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10DDC@EXCHANGE1">news:303479FA060CD211B893F805A88AA10DDC@EXCHANGE1...
 To answer your first question use the following: Watch the wrap.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2501/
 2500ug/pin.htm

 Your second question shows a custom V.35 back-to-back cable complete with
 the Cisco logo. Cisco cables are manufactured by subcontractors. One in
 California is LoDanWest. (If you have a cable with the initials LDW on
it -
 guess who made it?) LDW makes back to back cables for Cisco internal use.
 Neither LDW nor Cisco will sell you that cable. LDW will sell you a cable
 that is black rather than teal in color without the Cisco logo. Other
cable
 manufacturers sell similar cables.
 This particular cable may be made by a Cisco subcontractor or may be a
copy.
 I suspect the latter. The price is quite reasonable. Check on what is
 required to import it to your location.

  -Original Message-
  From: Tariq Bin Azad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:53 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: DTE DCE Cable problem
 
 
  Hi.
 
  Can anybody tell me which cable is used to connect to serial
  interefaces of
  CISCO 2500 series router 
  Can anybody tell me that what is the part no of this cable.
  Please click on link to see picture.
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1202507261
 
 
   Tazad
 
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RE: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread David Wolsefer

Jim,

I would be very interested in your view points. I am not a PIX zealot or
anything, this was just the best article I have. Perhaps you could respond
in detail with a different viewpoint.

Regards,

David Wolsefer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Brown
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:34 AM
To: 'Mark'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PIX vs CheckPoint


I've been watching this thread and I have kept quiet. The article listed
below is obviously biased. CheckPoint has its issues but none of them are
performance related. The only bad things I have to say about the product is
in relation to support, which doesn't exist, and licensing.

CheckPoint is #1 in spite of themselves. CheckPoint can handle up to ~80Mb
of throughput, if you need more then maybe you should look at some other
solution, otherwise they are all on the same field in regards to speed. They
typical shop doesn't need more than 80Mb of throughput.

The NT GUI is free, you must purchase the Motif GUI.

Nobody, and I mean Nobody, beats their GUI interface. It is the same no
matter what platform you are running on.

The Nokia/CheckPoint appliance is the best of both worlds. It is a
prehardened, highly tested OS on super performance hardware. You just drop
and insert that baby and you are ready to go. We use NT and Nokia's IPSO,
and if I could do it all over again we would only use Nokias.

Their stock is strong despite the recent gut punch the technology sector has
encountered. They have a great product with terrible customer service. This
may come back to haunt them, but in the mean time they are the best in my
opinion.

I could argue/discuss each point in the link below, but I won't bore anyone.
If someone would like more details or a realistic view on CheckPoint
capabilities you can contact me offline.

-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX vs CheckPoint


Not a bad article in here but just a little more.  I have both the
Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525.  I bought the 525's because I was tiered of
dealing with Checkpoint.  CKP is terrible at customer support and licensing,
and I am not saying this from just my experience.  I was in the classes
recently and all the folks there expressed the same issues.  Support is
expensive and not so bad with Pix.  Remember that with CKP you rely on the
box and OS you run and that has been a performance problem for us. In
addition you had better know how to harden the box with CKP.  I guess my
opinion is that a hardware device is almost always a better solution. Dollar
for Dollar the PIx is the better solution.

Good Luck
ML
"Imran Obaidullah M" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002">news:F149A24C5121D211A9710004AC4419C801B4BAF5@RSINTS002...
 Hi friends,

 I have few basic questions,

 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
 ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
 Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).

 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
 difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.

 Please send me the details

 Thanks

 imran

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Re: ISDN Simulator

2001-01-12 Thread AABAN34


  I have a question here? should you have an administrative distance defined 
on your static route? 

ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0  ??? 200

ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 BRI0  X.X.X.X 200

   The X.X.X.X is the next hop IP Address and the 200 is your administrative 
distance.

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Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread

2001-01-12 Thread Patrick Bass

So why post this crap to the newsgroup?  Nobody cares about your personal
problem.

"Jennifer Cribbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hello,

 I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of
it
 for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to
 groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX.  The
only
 thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation
that
 was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is
 familiar with.  I would also like to please ask people not to reply to
 anything else Mr.Skinner says about me.  It does not matter.  I am not
 responding anymore.  I thank everyone for the support.

 I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where
this
 could possibly occur.  I like this group, and I hope I will continue to
like
 it.  I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember.

 Thank you,
 Jennifer Cribbs
 ---

 Good Afternoon,

 I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention.  I am enclosing a
 thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone
to
 read.  There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the
digest
 from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or
something
 similiar.  Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people
and
 so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received
 numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for
Mr.Skinner's
 reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this.  My
 first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to
 apologize for anyone else's e-mail.  Noone is responsible for their
actions
 except that person.

 This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking
up
 good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this
 groupstudy.  And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent,
 which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is
saying
 he is here to play games with people.  Anyone can be tempted, especially
if
 their finances might be in trouble.  Even for a $30.00 Boson test.  But is
 this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with
no
 repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn.  He is trying to get
a
 rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic
 principles of honesty and intregrity.  And he has insulted me, and my
 husband!

 I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this
 properly and promptly.  I would very much like a reply to this please and
 would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of
any
 further actions regarding this.  I feel a public post would be appropriate
in
 this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not
done,
 since many are upset.

 I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of
response
 to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it??
This
 is a very real problem.

 I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker.  I have never
been
 labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know
what
 to do or how to handle this

 Thank you,
 Jennifer Cribbs
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: I HAVE THE BOSON CRACK

2001-01-12 Thread Aderion Brewer

This is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen, and I've NEVER seen a =
white man's ass, other than Kevin Costner's and especially exposing =
'green' balls!  I wanted to see what a 'crack' was, because maybe I just =
don't get it, what's a Boson crack?...but I don't believe this is what =
everyone is talking about and surely this can't be it!

Too funny ~  Just too damn, funny! =20

- Original Message -=20
From: "Kevin L. Kultgen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: I HAVE THE BOSON CRACK


 So No to crack!
=20
 http://www.xs4all.nl/~remcodek/crack.html
=20
 Warning: Some viewers may find this offensive.
=20
  i don`t know what all the fuss is about so i will give you the crack
 
  WWW.ASTALAVISTA.BK  SEARCH FOR BOSON ...DOWNLOAD FILEI HAVE
 ENCLUDED
  IT IN THIS E-MAIL
 
 
  KEYGEN V3.22 WORKS ON ALL VERSION INCLUDIONG THE CURRENT I =
DOWNLOADED
  YESTERDAY.
 
 
  SEE YA
 
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RE: ethernet and ios upgrade on cisco 4000

2001-01-12 Thread Rahman, Abdul

Not to trouble you, thank you for your help.
I have pretty much read and re-read all of the cisco doco
on the 4000 attempting to look for this problem.  It appears
that i get a few one liners.  

Would the reference you make to bootrom be in one of the pdf's
regarding the cisco 4000?

Thanks in advance,

Abdul 

-Original Message-
From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ethernet and ios upgrade on cisco 4000


if you upgrade IOS, make sure that the bootrom is up to date to and thatg
you have enough memory for the upgrade.

Lowell E. Sharrah
SBC-DataComm
517-241-7059 wk
517-360-0481 pgr
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 "Rahman, Abdul" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/12/01 02:15PM 
All:

I am having trouble configuring and ethernet module for a cisco 4000
running ios 9.1.  Yes i know, i should upgrade, that is part of the problem.
Since this is the only module that i have, i wanted to use this module to
tftp a new copy of the ios.  I at least wanted to see if the interface was
DOA,
or if i could configure simple interfaces with the 9.x ios.

I know this is a cluggy problem, but any help would be appreciated.  If you
step
out of the scope of this issue to give a 'creative' solution then by all
means
indulge me.

Thank you for your assistance.

Best regards,

Abdul Rahman

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Passed CCIE Written

2001-01-12 Thread Bruce Williams

I passed the CCIE RS yesterday with a 78%. The Boson exams were excellent.
I strongly recommend them to anyone who is preparing for the CCIE Written. I
also receive a lot of help from this newsgroup. I am scheduled to take the
lab on 9/13 and 9/14.

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Re: emty flash on 2500

2001-01-12 Thread steve

You have to break into the router as it boots (e.g., Ctl-Break from
Hyperterminal) and then go from the "" prompt.

2500 series routers run IOS from flash. You cannot copy to flash without
terminating the IOS, but since it is empty you're running the Rom version
and it doesn't know how to terminate, and around we go.

From the "" prompt type ?. You'll see a list of a few commands. There is a
mini setup script. Set an ip adress and no shut the port, then TFTP into
flash.

Steve

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 Have you changed the FLASH or boot ROM's lately.  This smells of a bad
 upgrade :-)

 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: "ElephantChild" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: emty flash on 2500


  On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I have trouble of copying an IOS image onto the flash memory on my
   Cisco 2500 router from a TFTP server, it keeps telling me 'Device in
   READ-ONLY state'.  I have tried to set the config-register to 0x2101
   but it still saying the same thing.  Can someone advise me on this
   please?
  
   System flash directory:
   No files in System flash
   [0 bytes used, 8388608 available, 8388608 total]
   8192K bytes of  System flash (Device not programmable)
  
   Router#copy tftp flash
   ERR: Device in READ-ONLY state
 
  Some models have a jumper that prevents you from writing to flash EPROM,
  even when not running IOS from flash. See your router's hardware manual.
 
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Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread

2001-01-12 Thread John Neiberger

I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these, sometimes
the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.  This
is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days,
anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they don't,
then into the kill file they go.

just my $.01 after taxes,
John

  
  Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name
for
  the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your list,
  you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll and
  get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time
  worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack, and
  if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then
  you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time
  that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
  
  andy
  
  On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jennifer Cribbs wrote:
  
   Hello,
   
   I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy
of it 
   for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to 
   groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX.  The
only 
   thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation
that 
   was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone
is 
   familiar with.  I would also like to please ask people not to reply to 
   anything else Mr.Skinner says about me.  It does not matter.  I am not 
   responding anymore.  I thank everyone for the support.
   
   I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation
where this 
   could possibly occur.  I like this group, and I hope I will continue to
like 
   it.  I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will
remember.
   
   Thank you,
   Jennifer Cribbs
   ---
   
   Good Afternoon,
   
   I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention.  I am
enclosing a 
   thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for
someone to 
   read.  There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the
digest 
   from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or
something 
   similiar.  Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three
people and 
   so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received 
   numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for
Mr.Skinner's 
   reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. 
My 
   first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to 
   apologize for anyone else's e-mail.  Noone is responsible for their
actions 
   except that person.  
   
   This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is
taking up 
   good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this

   groupstudy.  And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he
sent, 
   which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is
saying 
   he is here to play games with people.  Anyone can be tempted,
especially if 
   their finances might be in trouble.  Even for a $30.00 Boson test.  But
is 
   this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on
with no 
   repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn.  He is trying to
get a 
   rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic 
   principles of honesty and intregrity.  And he has insulted me, and my 
   husband!  
   
   I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle
this 
   properly and promptly.  I would very much like a reply to this please
and 
   would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance
of any 
   further actions regarding this.  I feel a public post would be
appropriate in 
   this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not
done, 
   since many are upset. 
   
   I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of
response 
   to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? 
This 
   is a very real problem.  
   
   I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker.  I have never
been 
   labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't
know what 
   to do or how to handle this
   
   Thank you,
   Jennifer Cribbs
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Very OT, PERL scripts?

2001-01-12 Thread Paul Borghese

Yea, the probem I am trying to fix has to do with the mailing list.  Ever
notice on occasion you will receive a message with equal signs on the end of
each line?  This has to do with a bug in the perl script being used to
decode mime messages.  We need this script in order to post on the website,
and to filter things such as VBS attachments.  ElephantChild has already
offered to help and I am seeing of anyone else wants to join the fun.

Take care,

Paul Borghese
- Original Message -
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To: "'Natasha'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "CCIE Group study list"
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:57 AM
Subject: RE: Very OT, PERL scripts?


 Natasha,

 That was Paul B. himself that needed PERL help.

 
 Brad Stanfield CCNA
 Network/Integration Engineer
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 -Original Message-
 From: Natasha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:02 AM
 To: CCIE Group study list
 Subject: Very OT, PERL scripts?


 Someone needed PERL HTML stripping stuff done?
 Not that I'm in the shape to be a stripper but I do happen to write
 PERL, just missed who needs it.
 Spotty memory and lousy timing. lol

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Re: PIX vs CheckPoint

2001-01-12 Thread Mark

In some aspects I do agree but we have checkpoint on sun 250's and the
performance difference is very noticable. However, the real issue I have is
the price point and service which is not good compared to the PIX. But I do
agree that the GUI is fine, if that is a big issue. Most folks that I work
with on the high end of things are not concerned with a GUI. If you want to
channel links on a sun box you have to purchase addition software. If you
want to use checkpoint in a high volume environment you have to spend a
great deal more in Harware. Dont get me wrong the checkpoint firewall is top
notch in what it does but there are just as good alternatives at a lower
price point. It really comes down to what you want to use it for. As for
80MB you say "CheckPoint can handle up to ~80Mb of throughput" but that has
nothing to do with hardware so spend the money on a PIX 525 with a Gig blade
and match that with the price of the Checkpoint software and a Hardware
device to support it at the same rate. And as you noted the service and
licensing is much to be desired, that is the real issue.



ML

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 I've been watching this thread and I have kept quiet. The article listed
 below is obviously biased. CheckPoint has its issues but none of them are
 performance related. The only bad things I have to say about the product
is
 in relation to support, which doesn't exist, and licensing.

 CheckPoint is #1 in spite of themselves. CheckPoint can handle up to ~80Mb
 of throughput, if you need more then maybe you should look at some other
 solution, otherwise they are all on the same field in regards to speed.
They
 typical shop doesn't need more than 80Mb of throughput.

 The NT GUI is free, you must purchase the Motif GUI.

 Nobody, and I mean Nobody, beats their GUI interface. It is the same no
 matter what platform you are running on.

 The Nokia/CheckPoint appliance is the best of both worlds. It is a
 prehardened, highly tested OS on super performance hardware. You just drop
 and insert that baby and you are ready to go. We use NT and Nokia's IPSO,
 and if I could do it all over again we would only use Nokias.

 Their stock is strong despite the recent gut punch the technology sector
has
 encountered. They have a great product with terrible customer service.
This
 may come back to haunt them, but in the mean time they are the best in my
 opinion.

 I could argue/discuss each point in the link below, but I won't bore
anyone.
 If someone would like more details or a realistic view on CheckPoint
 capabilities you can contact me offline.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PIX vs CheckPoint


 Not a bad article in here but just a little more.  I have both the
 Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525.  I bought the 525's because I was tiered
of
 dealing with Checkpoint.  CKP is terrible at customer support and
licensing,
 and I am not saying this from just my experience.  I was in the classes
 recently and all the folks there expressed the same issues.  Support is
 expensive and not so bad with Pix.  Remember that with CKP you rely on the
 box and OS you run and that has been a performance problem for us. In
 addition you had better know how to harden the box with CKP.  I guess my
 opinion is that a hardware device is almost always a better solution.
Dollar
 for Dollar the PIx is the better solution.

 Good Luck
 ML
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  Hi friends,
 
  I have few basic questions,
 
  1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
  ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
  Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).
 
  2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
  difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.
 
  Please send me the details
 
  Thanks
 
  imran
 
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Re: OSPFadjacencies

2001-01-12 Thread Phil Barker

It will depend on the number of interfaces that are
configured on the routers for OSPF operation.

The main point to remember is that not all Routers
will become adjacent. For a broadcast network such as
Ethernet you may have N Routers. 2 of these Routers
will be elected DR and BDR and will form an adjacency.
So we have N-2 Routers left. These N-2 Routers will
also try to form adjacencies with the DR and BDR, but
these N-2 Routers will not form adjacencies with DR
OTHER Routers. This saves on Network resources and
computational Resources.

HTH,

Phil.
--- Eric Gunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello,
 
 I am drawing a blank and am trying to remember the
 formula to figure the 
 number of adjacencies a router would have.
 
 I know it's a simple question, I am just drawing a
 blank.
 
 Thank You,
 
 -Eric
 
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RE: CCIE Written Beta results -

2001-01-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Got mine today. I never thought I'd be happy about failing a test, but in
this case, it is so.

One lab is bad enough.

My score was 53. Nigel - were you around there? My breakdowns averaged out
about what your did.

Chuck


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Nigel Taylor
Sent:   Friday, January 12, 2001 3:26 AM
To: CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject:CCIE Written Beta results -

All,
I don't know if anyone else got their Score Report but I received =
mines yesterday and I'm still in denial.  Yes, denial!  When I took the =
exam I really felt that the test itself was reasonable and well written. =
I must admit that when taking the exam it almost felt like the RS exam =
with a bunch of security.  In any event I missed the grade.  From the =
score sheet it does shoe me that I was week in security and Application =
protocols.  Well here's the breakdown;

Security Protocols:  45 (Ouch...!)
Operating Systems: 60
Application Protocols:  30 (Ouch...!)
General Networking: 75
Security Technologies: 40 (Ouch..!)
Security General: 90
Cisco General:   100 (weee heee.!)
Cisco Sec. Apps: 50 (Umm..)

As I said I surely failed this exam because of my overall weakness in =
Security.  Oh yes before I forget... the=20
passing mark was tagged at 65% and I only got a 57%.  like I said I =
thought it was a pretty good test and=20
before receiving this report.. "I thought" I did

In say that I'm drawn to remember a funny saying about the man that =
"thought"... :-

Review over...

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RSP Swap (Master to Slave)

2001-01-12 Thread STRAND Scott

I have a 7507 with dual RSP cards (1 master, 1 a slave). Is there a command to 
logically switch an RSP from a master to a slave. I
know I can physically pull out the master and the slave will automatically become the 
masteris there a logical command to do
this?

Thanks,
Scott
CCNP

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Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread

2001-01-12 Thread Paul Borghese

Management team?  How come I am the only one that shows up to the meetings
:-).

Ok few things you all should have learned in Kindergarten:

1.  No stealing
2.  Play nice

Please do not violate either rule.

Ok, now for the good news.  I am currently in the process of writing
software that will allow a group of people to moderate the list.  How this
will work is the software will select messages it believes are a violation
of the list rules to be sent to the moderation team before distribution.
The software does that now except there is no moderation team, hence it gets
suck in queue.  About once every six months I check the queue and say "Dam
that is a lot of messages". So now there will actually be someone looking at
the messages.  If we have a large enough team, the delay should not be that
noticeable.  The software is finished I just need to debug it.

I normally like to take a hands off approach to the list and not make myself
to visible.  But in this case I am going to make an executive decision to
block, for the time, any message relating to Boson products.  This will
hopefully kill the threads.  Please do not be upset if your insightful and
witty reply does not make it to the list.  Remember it is a big dumb program
that rejected the message, not a human.

Take care,

Paul Borghese

- Original Message -
From: "Jennifer Cribbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread


 Hello,

 I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of
it
 for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to
 groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX.  The
only
 thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation
that
 was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is
 familiar with.  I would also like to please ask people not to reply to
 anything else Mr.Skinner says about me.  It does not matter.  I am not
 responding anymore.  I thank everyone for the support.

 I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where
this
 could possibly occur.  I like this group, and I hope I will continue to
like
 it.  I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember.

 Thank you,
 Jennifer Cribbs
 ---

 Good Afternoon,

 I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention.  I am enclosing a
 thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone
to
 read.  There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the
digest
 from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or
something
 similiar.  Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people
and
 so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received
 numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for
Mr.Skinner's
 reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this.  My
 first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to
 apologize for anyone else's e-mail.  Noone is responsible for their
actions
 except that person.

 This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking
up
 good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this
 groupstudy.  And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent,
 which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is
saying
 he is here to play games with people.  Anyone can be tempted, especially
if
 their finances might be in trouble.  Even for a $30.00 Boson test.  But is
 this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with
no
 repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn.  He is trying to get
a
 rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic
 principles of honesty and intregrity.  And he has insulted me, and my
 husband!

 I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this
 properly and promptly.  I would very much like a reply to this please and
 would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of
any
 further actions regarding this.  I feel a public post would be appropriate
in
 this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not
done,
 since many are upset.

 I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of
response
 to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it??
This
 is a very real problem.

 I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker.  I have never
been
 labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know
what
 to do or how to handle this

 Thank you,
 Jennifer Cribbs
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Router Serial Number

2001-01-12 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)

That's just a show version.  And it does NOT tell you the
serial number.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Router Serial Number


try sho hardware
""Jake"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hi all,

 'show version' on a switch (2900 or 3500) will show the switch's serial
 number (second to last line - right before the config-register).  Is there
a
 similar way to find the serial number of a router?  I can't find it in the
 'sh ver' output.

 Thanks,

 Jake


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