RE: Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]

2001-08-22 Thread Baker, Jason

i Had this happen to me. 

My symptoms were you could execute the break sequence but the rest of the
keyboard is unresponsive.
whether trying to break into the router or normal console as i could see the
boot up sequence when reset.

This happened with  2 of my routers. 

So i used another computer and was able to console in with no problems.

i put it down to my serial ports or UARTS on the serial ports of the PC had
gone
on the blink.

Just something weird to note for further use.



 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Chang [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2001 2:58 pm
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]
 
 Dear Cisco Groupstudy Person:
   I locked myself out of my Cisco 7513 router somehow.My Keyboard has no
 effect. I'm not sure if this is the reason, but my most recent
 configuration
 change was to fill the No. 4 slot, previously blank, with a Fast Ethernet
 Card.
   Everytime I power cycle the router, it comes up again, goes through the
 boot sequence, and then freezes with a string of messages concerning the
 status of FE 3/0 and FE 4/0, first stating that they are up and then
 stating
 they are down.
   Even the password recovery technique where one uses the Break or ^[
 Keys and then resets the Config Register can't be used. For some reason,
 the
 keyboard won't even work; it has no effect in this situation suddenly!!.
   I have carefully checked my Hyperterminal settings of 9600 baud ; Data
 bits=8 Parity=none stop bits=2 Flowcontrol=none
   Anybody have any idea why my keyboard is dead I am working with Vlan
 configurations on this Router. Please help! Thank you.




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Can ping gateway from Catalyst RSM, but can't ping RSM from [7:16775]

2001-08-22 Thread Sean Knox

Hello all, I'm having some trouble with a Route Switch Module on a Catalyst
5500. I have set up an IP on the vlan1 interface on the RSM. On the same
subnet, I am able ping hosts from the RSM, but I cannot ping the RSM
interface from the gateway, or any other hosts for that matter. Can any
help?

My config:
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.2
no service udp-small-servers
no service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname Router
!
boot config slot0:config
!
no ip domain-lookup
!
interface Vlan1
 ip address 10.10.190.198 255.255.255.0
!
ip default-gateway 10.10.190.1
ip classless
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 logging synchronous
 login
!
end




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The choice of default-network [7:16777]

2001-08-22 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing table .
For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and BGP
running
Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
 Deault network :192.181.35.0
Default network: 192.140.0.0

Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0

All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network in
the routing table.

Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given , which
one of them will be listed in the routing table as gateway of last resort
when one sees using the command show ip route . And pls tell me on what
basis the  particular network will be choosen as gateway of last resort

Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for meThanks.
Vijendra






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incorrect TCP checksum [7:16776]

2001-08-22 Thread Anatoly Shein

Hi 
According to my knowledge incorrect TCP check sum cause to TCP
retransmissions.
What could be reason for incorrect TCP checksum?
As I understand it could be problem in one of the router/proxy probably
switch.
And intuitively I think that problem should be wherever in OS.
Can you give me any suggestion about detection of the fault machine or
source to find more info about this problem.

Suggestions I mean something more constructive than putting sniffers on each
leg of the device and look for TCP checksum errors.




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Re: Can ping gateway from Catalyst RSM, but can't ping RSM from [7:16778]

2001-08-22 Thread Sean Knox

Doh! I didn't have routing enabled- packets had no path to travel. =)
Enabling a routing protocol fixed everything..

Sean

Sean Knox  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hello all, I'm having some trouble with a Route Switch Module on a
Catalyst
 5500. I have set up an IP on the vlan1 interface on the RSM. On the same
 subnet, I am able ping hosts from the RSM, but I cannot ping the RSM
 interface from the gateway, or any other hosts for that matter. Can any
 help?

 My config:
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.2
 no service udp-small-servers
 no service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Router
 !
 boot config slot0:config
 !
 no ip domain-lookup
 !
 interface Vlan1
  ip address 10.10.190.198 255.255.255.0
 !
 ip default-gateway 10.10.190.1
 ip classless
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
 line vty 0 4
  logging synchronous
  login
 !
 end




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RE: Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]

2001-08-22 Thread Symon Thurlow

In our lab, we have a few different devices, 1600, 2600, 3500, and you
can't talk to any of them from new 866 Compaq EN deskpros, it just
doesn't work. Plug the cable into the back of my old trusty Compaq
Armada laptop, no problems. I haven't bothered to troubleshoot it.

Symon

---
 i Had this happen to me. 
 
 My symptoms were you could execute the break sequence but the rest
of the
 keyboard is unresponsive.
 whether trying to break into the router or normal console as i could
see the
 boot up sequence when reset.
 
 This happened with  2 of my routers. 
 
 So i used another computer and was able to console in with no
problems.
 
 i put it down to my serial ports or UARTS on the serial ports of the
PC had
 gone
 on the blink.
 
 Just something weird to note for further use.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Richard Chang [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, 22 August 2001 2:58 pm
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]
  
  Dear Cisco Groupstudy Person:
I locked myself out of my Cisco 7513 router somehow.My Keyboard
has no
  effect. I'm not sure if this is the reason, but my most recent
  configuration
  change was to fill the No. 4 slot, previously blank, with a Fast
Ethernet
  Card.
Everytime I power cycle the router, it comes up again, goes
through the
  boot sequence, and then freezes with a string of messages
concerning the
  status of FE 3/0 and FE 4/0, first stating that they are up and
then
  stating
  they are down.
Even the password recovery technique where one uses the Break
or ^[
  Keys and then resets the Config Register can't be used. For some
reason,
  the
  keyboard won't even work; it has no effect in this situation
suddenly!!.
I have carefully checked my Hyperterminal settings of 9600 baud
; Data
  bits=8 Parity=none stop bits=2 Flowcontrol=none
Anybody have any idea why my keyboard is dead I am working
with Vlan
  configurations on this Router. Please help! Thank you.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Cheers,

Symon




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RE: Partner Specialization exams - how tough? [7:16773]

2001-08-22 Thread Jay Dunn

This exam is web based. It costs $35 and there is no time limit (other than
a session time out if you decide to go to lunch in the middle). I forget how
many questions, but its less than 50. You should understand the basics of
802.11 and know some Cisco Aironet specifics (AP and bridge models,
antennas, etc.). I would recommend having a web link open to Cisco Aironet
340 product pages so you can reference part numbers. Somewhere in the
partner certifications area of CCO there is a link to web based training for
this. The video and the powerpoint presentations are sufficient to cover the
test.

Jay Dunn, MCSE expired in June, CCNA/CCDA to expire in Sept, TIRED of exams
IPI GrammTech, Ltd.
210.694.4313
http://www.ipi-gt.com
Nunquam Facilis Est

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Torren Craigie-Manson
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Partner Specialization exams - how tough? [7:16773]


Hi all,

Can anyone provide feedback on the partner specialization exams? In
particular, I'm interested in the Field Engineer and Systems Engineer exam
for wireless LANs. On the scale of regurgitate these marketing factoids to
win a free t-shirt to CCNP, how tough is this guy? Any idea of how many
questions and how much time is allowed?

Cheers,
Torren




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Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16781]

2001-08-22 Thread Hamid

Hi group,

I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's interface to be a
100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an ethernet
port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?

I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home lab,
setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with isl
encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to confgure the
router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:

Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0

Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE 802.1Q,
or ISL vLAN.

The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't have the
ENCAPSULATION command available.

Bellow is the output of the show version command:
Router3#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload
System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin

cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102


Any idea what the problem is?

Thanx in advance

Hamid




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Unusual traffic on pvc 266 [7:16782]

2001-08-22 Thread suaveguru

I have a problem with a real-life situation it goes
this way :

The ip address of our client network that is using PVC
266 is 202.161.137.0/25. As I told you earlier when I
disable the network from client end,there are still
packets in the serial about 75000 both i/p and o/p
rate.
  When no hosts are connected in the network and
only 2 Serials are connected the input rate should be
0 right. But it is not so in our case. 
Moreover we have given rate-limit but are not able to
restrict the uplink of our client. Our client link is
of 128/384 for PVC 266. Could you help
us out and sort out our problem. What might be the
cause.

The PVC links are 
PVC 266 is of 128/384
PVC 277 is of 266/1024


I have also attatched router configuraton for your
review I am suspecting the prefix list only control
out-bound but not in-bound

let me know your little input :


here is the router configuration 


version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
service internal
!

!
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
ip wccp version 1
ip tcp window-size 32000

ip name-server 202.161.131.228
ip name-server 202.161.131.243
!
cns event-service server
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 202.161.158.137 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Ethernet0/0
 
 ip address 202.161.131.241 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Serial1/0
 description Cyberstar
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 fair-queue 64 32 0
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
interface Serial1/0.266 multipoint
 ip address 202.161.128.90 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 202.161.128.89 266
 frame-relay interface-dlci 267
!
interface Serial1/0.276 multipoint
 
 ip address 202.161.128.34 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 frame-relay map ip 202.161.128.33 276
 frame-relay interface-dlci 277
!
interface Serial1/2
 description Leased line to Client
 ip address 202.161.158.233 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 rate-limit input 128000 16000 32000 conform-action
transmit exceed-action
drop
 no keepalive
!
router bgp 64545
 network 202.161.131.224 mask 255.255.255.224
 network 202.161.137.0
 network 202.161.158.0
 network 202.161.159.0
 neighbor 202.161.128.33 remote-as 11919
 
 neighbor 202.161.128.33 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.33 prefix-list 1 out
 neighbor 202.161.128.89 remote-as 11919
 
 neighbor 202.161.128.89 soft-reconfiguration inbound
 neighbor 202.161.128.89 prefix-list 2 out
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.33
ip route 202.161.131.224 255.255.255.224 Ethernet0/0
ip route 202.161.131.224 255.255.255.224 Null0
ip route 202.161.131.224 255.255.255.240
202.161.131.244
ip route 202.161.131.240 255.255.255.240 Ethernet0/0
ip route 202.161.137.0 255.255.255.0 202.161.158.234
(Serial of client)

!

ip prefix-list 1 seq 5 permit 202.161.131.224/27
ip prefix-list 1 seq 10 permit 202.161.158.0/23 le 24
!

ip prefix-list 2 seq 5 permit 202.161.137.0/24
!
snmp-server engineID local 000902D058F83860
snmp-server community public RO
snmp-server enable traps casa



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Checking Speed for IPLC on Router [7:16783]

2001-08-22 Thread Sanjeev Tyagi

We have a 256Kbps IPLC on CISCO 3620. We feel that ISP is not providing us
the speed for which we are paying.

Is there any way to know the connection speed. Any CISCO Software or any
command on Router or ANY Third Party Software ?

Thanks In Advance


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Re: Thoughts on CCIE Written [7:14116]

2001-08-22 Thread Spencer Penfield

Thanks Oliver,

I will get the books you suggested and I have decided that I will take the
Foundation and Support exam and then take CCIE written.  In addition to
knowledge that CCNP preparation provides, it also provides a recognition
before getting CCIE status. The latter might take a while.

Thanks again

SP



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Re: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16785]

2001-08-22 Thread Nigel Taylor

Hamid,
See Inline

- Original Message -
From: Hamid 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:28 AM
Subject: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16781]


 Hi group,

 I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's interface to be
a
 100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an ethernet
 port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?

NT:  That of course depends on the typical utilization of that external
interface
based on any statistics you should have gathered to support the need for a
10 or 100 MB connection.


 I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home lab,
 setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with isl
 encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to confgure the
 router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:

 Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
 Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0

 Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
 subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE 802.1Q,
 or ISL vLAN.

 The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't have
the
 ENCAPSULATION command available.

 Bellow is the output of the show version command:
 Router3#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
 Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

 Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload
 System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin

 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
 M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102


 Any idea what the problem is?

NT:  Well I was able to test this new feature out on my 45xx model the other
day and
 yes it worked just as expected(pretty cool).   The only problem I had was
that it only
supports 802.1q and on the Cat5 the only blades that support 802.1q are the
more
expensive (WS-X5224R and a few others.)  Most of the blades that folks
purchase
 for their home labs come with the WS-X5213/5213A which only support ISL.

I also did  a check on CCO for your model and it would seem that this
feature is only
supported on the Enterprise set of the IOS.  You're  running the IP only IOS
version.

Here's a link to the features of 12.2 IOS features by model  watch the word
wrap...

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122relnt/xpr
n122/122feats.htm#xtocid551238

Of course you'll have to lookat the memory requirements to complete the
upgrade..  Hint: The upgrade
required 32MB DRAM/16 flash.

HTH

Nigel .



 Thanx in advance

 Hamid




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Re: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16786]

2001-08-22 Thread Tony Medeiros

As far as I know,  trunking MUST be on at least a fast ethernet interface.
Another way out is put an NM-1E ethernet module on your 2610 and put each
interface in a different vlan.   Or buy a 2620.

I hate to say this, but,   this has been gone over AT LENGTH  over the last
few months.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Tony

- Original Message -
From: Hamid 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 AM
Subject: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16781]


 Hi group,

 I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's interface to be
a
 100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an ethernet
 port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?

 I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home lab,
 setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with isl
 encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to confgure the
 router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:

 Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
 Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0

 Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
 subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE 802.1Q,
 or ISL vLAN.

 The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't have
the
 ENCAPSULATION command available.

 Bellow is the output of the show version command:
 Router3#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
 Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

 Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload
 System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin

 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
 M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102


 Any idea what the problem is?

 Thanx in advance

 Hamid




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how to clear a router counter at frequency basis [7:16787]

2001-08-22 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Hi..   I need to clear counter on a router at frequency basis eg:1 day and
save it to file in a PC?  Is there any command or script that we can program
in the router?

CT

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RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Hartwell

I might be repeating someone else here - I haven't followed the
thread completely. The vulnerability you are talking about is
documented in this field notice...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml

You have to be VERY careful when putting XP on your Cisco switched
LAN, make sure you have new code and/or new SUP's. The 802.1x
authentication option is also available on Win2k but it is disabled
by default, on the XP beta it is enabled by default (not sure if the
final release will be the same). It seems to boil down to STP ports
in blocking mode forwarding the 802.1x packets. It has the
potential to bring down a segment in double-quick time, just ask
Xerox, apparently just one curious engineer's PC managed that trick,
they now have a strict NO XP! policy on their network (allegedly).

Regards

Charlie

 --- Chuck Larrieu  wrote:  I did a little more
checking on this. there is a known issue with
 XP clients
 and Catalyst 5000 switches with EARL 1 and certain software
 revisions. I may
 be misunderstanding this completely, but it is an issue with the
 interaction
 of the Cat 5K and XP when 802.1x port authentication is enabled.
 that got me
 to reading on 802.1x authentication. interesting.
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
 Of
 Brian
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code  Windows XP [7:16604]
 
 
 perhaps boss heard about the mstcp thread...
 
 Brian Sonic Whalen
 Success = Preparation + Opportunity
 
 
 On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 
  I'm sure you've had your fair share of smart remarks by now. So I
 won't
 add
  my own. I will remark that in fairness to your boss, there is
 probably
  something he has heard or read which caused him to look for
 reassurance.
 
  for example, is there a concern with VPN compatibility of
 operation using
  Win XP VPN client software? is there a security concern based
 upon
 published
  writings about the XP TCP stack?
 
  if the question is will Cisco routers pass traffic generated by
 XP
  machines? the answer is sure. why not after all, there is
 nothing in an
  IP or a TCP header that indicates the type of host OS that
 originates the
  packet. as long as the traffic is contained in valid packets, the
 router
  will pass process them. knowing that, may I recommend you sit
 down with
 the
  boss and ask what his concerns are. what has he read? what has he
 heard?
 why
  would he think there is reason to be concerned? hell, he could be
 a victim
  of MBBW ( Management By Business Week - where the president of
 the company
  saw something in Business Week Magazine over the weekend and on
 Monday
  morning told your boss to investigate and come back with report.
 ;-
 
  ( and yes, I know some bosses are she )
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of
  Ray Smith
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:38 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: HELP!! The Cisco Code  Windows XP [7:16604]
 
 
  Guys,
 
  After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is
 need to
  upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
 Windows-XP,
  I was only able to assert from information on the web that there
 is a bug
 in
  the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
 
  Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help
 me with
  compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out
 there
  knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or
 from
  literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
 
  The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that
 which
  occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's
 network.  I
  understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in
 addition
 to
  the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
 
  a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software
 or with
 the
  router IOS as
   well?
 
  b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
 
  I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
 
 
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Re: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16789]

2001-08-22 Thread Symon Thurlow

According to very recent studies (this morning on the train in fact),
Trunking is only supported on Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet
interfaces.

Symon

---
 As far as I know,  trunking MUST be on at least a fast ethernet
interface.
 Another way out is put an NM-1E ethernet module on your 2610 and put
each
 interface in a different vlan.   Or buy a 2620.
 
 I hate to say this, but,   this has been gone over AT LENGTH  over
the last
 few months.
 
 Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
 Tony
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hamid 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 AM
 Subject: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs
[7:16781]
 
 
  Hi group,
 
  I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's
interface to be
 a
  100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an
ethernet
  port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?
 
  I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home
lab,
  setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with
isl
  encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to
confgure the
  router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:
 
  Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
  Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0
 
  Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if
that
  subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE
802.1Q,
  or ISL vLAN.
 
  The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't
have
 the
  ENCAPSULATION command available.
 
  Bellow is the output of the show version command:
  Router3#sh ver
  Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
  IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE
SOFTWARE
  (fc1)
  Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
  Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
  Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C
 
  ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
  Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
  System returned to ROM by reload
  System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin
 
  cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K
bytes of
  memory.
  Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
  M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
  Bridging software.
  X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
  1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
  2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
  32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
  8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
 
  Configuration register is 0x2102
 
 
  Any idea what the problem is?
 
  Thanx in advance
 
  Hamid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Cheers,

Symon




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Re: how to clear a router counter at frequency basis [7:16787]

2001-08-22 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

Try expect script.

HTH

- Original Message -
From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:09 PM
Subject: how to clear a router counter at frequency basis [7:16787]


 Hi..   I need to clear counter on a router at frequency basis eg:1 day and
 save it to file in a PC?  Is there any command or script that we can
program
 in the router?

 CT




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Re: HELP!! The Cisco Code Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-22 Thread Tony Medeiros

One XP machine also took out about half of AMD's Huston campus about 5
months ago.  It does more that just take out segments, It can take out a
whole network !!!  The next day AMD circulated a memo that anyone connecting
an XP machine to the network would receive disciplinary action 
Wooops !!
Tony
(Sill working at 4am PST)

- Original Message -
From: Charlie Hartwell 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:34 AM
Subject: RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code  Windows XP [7:16604]


 I might be repeating someone else here - I haven't followed the
 thread completely. The vulnerability you are talking about is
 documented in this field notice...
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml

 You have to be VERY careful when putting XP on your Cisco switched
 LAN, make sure you have new code and/or new SUP's. The 802.1x
 authentication option is also available on Win2k but it is disabled
 by default, on the XP beta it is enabled by default (not sure if the
 final release will be the same). It seems to boil down to STP ports
 in blocking mode forwarding the 802.1x packets. It has the
 potential to bring down a segment in double-quick time, just ask
 Xerox, apparently just one curious engineer's PC managed that trick,
 they now have a strict NO XP! policy on their network (allegedly).

 Regards

 Charlie

  --- Chuck Larrieu  wrote:  I did a little more
 checking on this. there is a known issue with
  XP clients
  and Catalyst 5000 switches with EARL 1 and certain software
  revisions. I may
  be misunderstanding this completely, but it is an issue with the
  interaction
  of the Cat 5K and XP when 802.1x port authentication is enabled.
  that got me
  to reading on 802.1x authentication. interesting.
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of
  Brian
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:40 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code  Windows XP [7:16604]
 
 
  perhaps boss heard about the mstcp thread...
 
  Brian Sonic Whalen
  Success = Preparation + Opportunity
 
 
  On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
 
   I'm sure you've had your fair share of smart remarks by now. So I
  won't
  add
   my own. I will remark that in fairness to your boss, there is
  probably
   something he has heard or read which caused him to look for
  reassurance.
  
   for example, is there a concern with VPN compatibility of
  operation using
   Win XP VPN client software? is there a security concern based
  upon
  published
   writings about the XP TCP stack?
  
   if the question is will Cisco routers pass traffic generated by
  XP
   machines? the answer is sure. why not after all, there is
  nothing in an
   IP or a TCP header that indicates the type of host OS that
  originates the
   packet. as long as the traffic is contained in valid packets, the
  router
   will pass process them. knowing that, may I recommend you sit
  down with
  the
   boss and ask what his concerns are. what has he read? what has he
  heard?
  why
   would he think there is reason to be concerned? hell, he could be
  a victim
   of MBBW ( Management By Business Week - where the president of
  the company
   saw something in Business Week Magazine over the weekend and on
  Monday
   morning told your boss to investigate and come back with report.
  ;-
  
   ( and yes, I know some bosses are she )
  
   Chuck
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of
   Ray Smith
   Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:38 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: HELP!! The Cisco Code  Windows XP [7:16604]
  
  
   Guys,
  
   After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is
  need to
   upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
  Windows-XP,
   I was only able to assert from information on the web that there
  is a bug
  in
   the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
  
   Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help
  me with
   compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out
  there
   knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or
  from
   literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
  
   The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that
  which
   occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's
  network.  I
   understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in
  addition
  to
   the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
  
   a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software
  or with
  the
   router IOS as
well?
  
   b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
  
   I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
  
  
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RE: Checking Speed for IPLC on Router [7:16783]

2001-08-22 Thread Milan Saxena

Sanjeev,
Thanks I was having a similar problema nd was wondering where to look in
for. If you get any clues, do let me know.

Thanks.


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RE: Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]

2001-08-22 Thread Mark Monica Baker

Try changing the stop bits to 1, which is the default, I believe. The 
up/down messages are normal during boot operations on an unused interface.

Mark

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Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Help! Locked out of my 7513 Router! [7:16769]

Dear Cisco Groupstudy Person:
  I locked myself out of my Cisco 7513 router somehow.My Keyboard has no
effect. I'm not sure if this is the reason, but my most recent 
configuration
change was to fill the No. 4 slot, previously blank, with a Fast Ethernet
Card.
  Everytime I power cycle the router, it comes up again, goes through the
boot sequence, and then freezes with a string of messages concerning the
status of FE 3/0 and FE 4/0, first stating that they are up and then 
stating
they are down.
  Even the password recovery technique where one uses the Break or ^[
Keys and then resets the Config Register can't be used. For some reason, 
the
keyboard won't even work; it has no effect in this situation suddenly!!.
  I have carefully checked my Hyperterminal settings of 9600 baud ; Data
bits=8 Parity=none stop bits=2 Flowcontrol=none
  Anybody have any idea why my keyboard is dead I am working with Vlan
configurations on this Router. Please help! Thank you.




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Netbeyond Etherswitch 1220 [7:16788]

2001-08-22 Thread Symon Thurlow

Hi all,

Does anyone have feedback regarding the Netbeyond Etherswitch 1220
from a CCNP lab perspective?

I have a CAT5K, but need another switch to compliment my lab. I read
in an old news report that these switches are IOS based, but searching
google and cco it looks like they are only menu based, no K option
like on a 1900.

Any feedback greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Symon




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RE: books on PIX? [7:16720]

2001-08-22 Thread PSIHOYIOS PANAYIOTIS

Hi group, 

The best books on PIX I've read so far are the manuals. Also the MCNS book
from Cisco Press has some good info on the PIX.

Regards

===
Panayiotis Psihoyios
CCNP (Security, ATM), CCDP, MCP
Network Engineer

Synet S.A.
118 B, Agias Eleousis Street
Marousi
GR 151 25
Greece

Tel: ++ 301 0 61 29 500
Fax: ++ 301 0 61 25 313
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 -Original Message-
 From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: books on PIX? [7:16720]
 
 
 Anyone know of any good introductory books on PIX firewalls? 
 Something nice
 and simple that has a beginning, middle, and an ending.(Most 
 authors of tech
 books miss this concept). I'd rather not have to jump around 
 in CCO land
 getting snippets of different functionalities that I probably 
 would never
 have to implement. Just the basics. Thanks.
 
 
 Sam Sneed




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Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]

2001-08-22 Thread Edmondson, Dorothy M

Is there a preferred addressing scheme for loopback address when
implementing OSPF?
Recently, I read in Cisco Routers for IP Routing, Little Black Book using
10.0.0.2/32?  What is your experience using 32 bit mask?

Thank you.
Dorothy


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WCS , FIS Quality Practices 

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Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Wright, Jeremy

Does the longest match rule always override administrative distance??




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RE: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]

2001-08-22 Thread Juliano Moises da Luz

We use valid addresses as loopback in OSPF, so we assigned an entire class C
to loopbackaddresses on routers.  

it works fine.


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Subject: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]


Is there a preferred addressing scheme for loopback address when
implementing OSPF?
Recently, I read in Cisco Routers for IP Routing, Little Black Book using
10.0.0.2/32?  What is your experience using 32 bit mask?

Thank you.
Dorothy


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WCS , FIS Quality Practices 

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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread McCallum, Robert

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the admin distance the
better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the routing table
despite having a longer match route which was learned from say OSPF.  BUT if
you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then the longest
match ALWAYS wins.  

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the longest match is
the outmost winner.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative distance??




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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Yadav, Rajesh (CAP, GECIS)

Yes, it does.

rgds,

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Does the longest match rule always override administrative distance??




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PIX design question [7:16801]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Donlon

We are in the middle of migrating to a new network, this includes replacing
Checkpoint firewalls with PIX. My question concerns the proposed design of
the Internet and IntrAnet PIX firewalls and in particular a connection
between the two firewalls. It has been suggested that we connect the
IntrAnet firewall's outside interface to one of the Internet firewalls DMZs.
I can see that this may reduce latency for traffic passing to the internet
from our intrAnet but I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts on this one,
routing or security issues perhaps.

Another design issue which was raised was the placement of some servers in
the same outside interface of the intrAnet firewall. These servers would
require access to one of the intrAnet firewall's DMZ and be accessible from
another DMZ on the internet firewall which are in turn are accessible from
the Internet. This seems a bit of a complicated design and could be a
security loophole (??). Thoughts and experiences please

regards Pat




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Re: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Ramsey

If it is truely in promiscuos mode, there should not be any problem.  You
can test this by pinging the ip address. (It should not respond)

alot of drivers do not allow for full promiscuity however.  Remember it's
not the app that talks to the nic, it's the driver.  Some companies do offer
promiscuous drivers however if yours does not.  NAI also has their own
drivers built for specific nics.  (of course you ahve to use they're product
to take advantage) These drivers are advanced prmiscuous drivers that allow
you to see runts and the like across the wire.

But if you are willing to take a server down by putting it's nic in
promiscuous mode, why not just unbind IP from that interface?

-Patrick

 Subba Rao  08/21/01 05:39PM 
Hi,

We have 2 sniffer systems on NT and on Unix. The sniffer puts the ethernet
interfaces
on both the systems in promiscuous mode. Currently we are not worried about
any local
users on the system. Are there any threats from remote users on the
promiscuous interface,
on either system? When I say remote users, I am talking about John Doe on
our network who
has no business with either of these system. John Doe could be on Internet
as well but has
no user accounts on these systems. Would he get any vulnerable information
from the sniffer
interfaces on either system?

Thank you in advance for any info.
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Tacacs+ configuration for Ldap needed [7:16803]

2001-08-22 Thread Arshad Mughal

Is Any body knows the right configuration of  Tacacs+ with Ldap Server
or have any idea about this?

Regards
Arshad




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Re: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Van Oene

Assigning recognizable addresses with /32 masks would be considered best
practises in my opinion.  Ideally, these are publicly routable in the SP
space.



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On 8/22/2001 at 9:02 AM Edmondson, Dorothy M wrote:

Is there a preferred addressing scheme for loopback address when
implementing OSPF?
Recently, I read in Cisco Routers for IP Routing, Little Black Book using
10.0.0.2/32?  What is your experience using 32 bit mask?

Thank you.
Dorothy


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WCS , FIS Quality Practices 

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Re: PIX design question [7:16801]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Ramsey

If you are goign to buy 2 for sure, why not use them in statefull failover? 
And not double segregate intra/internets?

Purchase say 2 525's with 1 fastethernet card per box. (has 4 ports) 
Your in and out interfaces can be the built in fastE ports and the remainder
can be for various DMZ's and private networks.

-Patrick

 Patrick Donlon  08/22/01 09:56AM 
We are in the middle of migrating to a new network, this includes replacing
Checkpoint firewalls with PIX. My question concerns the proposed design of
the Internet and IntrAnet PIX firewalls and in particular a connection
between the two firewalls. It has been suggested that we connect the
IntrAnet firewall's outside interface to one of the Internet firewalls DMZs.
I can see that this may reduce latency for traffic passing to the internet
from our intrAnet but I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts on this one,
routing or security issues perhaps.

Another design issue which was raised was the placement of some servers in
the same outside interface of the intrAnet firewall. These servers would
require access to one of the intrAnet firewall's DMZ and be accessible from
another DMZ on the internet firewall which are in turn are accessible from
the Internet. This seems a bit of a complicated design and could be a
security loophole (??). Thoughts and experiences please

regards Pat




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Re: how to clear a router counter at frequency basis [7:16787]

2001-08-22 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

What is expect script ?
Can u pls elaborate ..Thks

Vijendra ..
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 Try expect script.

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 Subject: how to clear a router counter at frequency basis [7:16787]


  Hi..   I need to clear counter on a router at frequency basis eg:1 day
and
  save it to file in a PC?  Is there any command or script that we can
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  in the router?
 
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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Wright, Jeremy

So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From:   McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.  

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative
distance??
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Re: PIX design question [7:16801]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Donlon

Yes we have already planned for that, we've ordered 4 PIX in total with 8
interfaces in each. What do you mean by double segregate intra/internets?

cheers Pat


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To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: PIX design question [7:16801]


If you are goign to buy 2 for sure, why not use them in statefull failover?
And not double segregate intra/internets?

Purchase say 2 525's with 1 fastethernet card per box. (has 4 ports)
Your in and out interfaces can be the built in fastE ports and the remainder
can be for various DMZ's and private networks.

-Patrick

 Patrick Donlon  08/22/01 09:56AM 
We are in the middle of migrating to a new network, this includes replacing
Checkpoint firewalls with PIX. My question concerns the proposed design of
the Internet and IntrAnet PIX firewalls and in particular a connection
between the two firewalls. It has been suggested that we connect the
IntrAnet firewall's outside interface to one of the Internet firewalls DMZs.
I can see that this may reduce latency for traffic passing to the internet
from our intrAnet but I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts on this one,
routing or security issues perhaps.

Another design issue which was raised was the placement of some servers in
the same outside interface of the intrAnet firewall. These servers would
require access to one of the intrAnet firewall's DMZ and be accessible from
another DMZ on the internet firewall which are in turn are accessible from
the Internet. This seems a bit of a complicated design and could be a
security loophole (??). Thoughts and experiences please

regards Pat




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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread John Neiberger

Administrative Distance and the longest-match rule apply to two separate
processes.  Remember, there is a route installation process and a route
lookup process. AD matters only during the installation process.

When a router receives an update for the identical route from more than
one routing protocol, it uses AD to determine which to actually place
into the routing table.  After this point, AD is irrelevant.

When the router is choosing a route for a specific destination then the
longest-match rule comes into play and the router will *always* choose
the route associated with the longest matching prefix in the table.

I hope that makes sense.  I haven't finished my first cup of coffee so
I can't be held responsible for my ramblings.  If that doesn't make
sense, let me know and I'll rephrase it.

Regards,
John

 Wright, Jeremy  8/22/01 8:17:08 AM 
So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From:   McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question
[7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower
the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into
the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned
from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance
then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.  

Basically once the route is in the routing table then
the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override
administrative
distance??
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access-lists supported on 2948G-L3? [7:16810]

2001-08-22 Thread sam sneed

I was trying to set up accesslists on an interface on a 2948G-L3 switch last
night for an hour to no avail. The switch showed my access-list when doing a
sh ip int fa47 and the list was correct. I even applied a new list stating
only deny ip any any. Traffic still came through . It was applied correctly
as inbound as well. I did show logging and saw:

45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)

It looks like I need and ACL card. I never heard of this, has anyone else?
This is an $8000 switch capable of CEF, MLS and a while bunch of other
features.
Please don't tell that with all these features it can't do access-lists as
is. Its classified as a distrubution layer switch, where ironically Cisco
says to put your access-lists in their design model and I can't seem to get
it going.

any help would be appreciated...


sam sneed




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Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

I don't think this is correct: If you have a route learned by EIGRP and a
more specific (longer match) route learned by OSPF, both will go to the
routing table,  by the same reason that you still have a route learned by
any routing protocol on the table even if you have a more specific route
staticaly defined (which has a lower administrative distance). With both
routes int the routing table, then the longest match will count...

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: McCallum, Robert 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the admin distance the
better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the routing table
despite having a longer match route which was learned from say OSPF.  BUT if
you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the longest match is
the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative distance??




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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Brian

On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Wright, Jeremy wrote:

 So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
  10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
  10.1.1.0/26   Static
 Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

I guess that would depend where you are trying to go!  You must provide a
destination for someone to answer that question :)

Brian



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   To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

   In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

   Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
 admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the
 routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from
say
 OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then
 the longest
   match ALWAYS wins.

   Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
 longest match is the outmost winner.

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Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1, for
instance, the route chosen will be the static...

Regards,

Ednilson Rosa

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From: Wright, Jeremy 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative
distance??
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VPN and Digital Certificates [7:16813]

2001-08-22 Thread Tom Richs

Can someone explain in detail or show me a link that shows/explains in 
detail what a digital certificate does for a VPN concentrator and a VPN 
client.  In addition I'm trying to find the purpose, how it does it, etc.  
I'm having a hard time understanding what role, why and how digital plays 
with VPN concentrator and client.  For instance, does a VPN client digital 
certificate talk to a VPN Concentrator certificate, does a client cert. talk 
to a CA to determine who it is, what is the purpose of a digital certificate 
for a vpn conconcentrator, etc.

Thanks in advance.

T

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Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

I'm sorry, I've just made a mistake and you were correct: in the example you
gave just EIGRP route would get to the routing table. If we had the
opposite, with a more specific route learned by EIGRP and another less
specific route learned by OSPF, then we would have both on the routing table
and the longest match rule would act.

So, the rule is: the admin distance is used by the router to choose which
route to put on the table. Since routes are already there, then the longest
match will count.

My apologies,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: Ednilson Rosa 
To: McCallum, Robert ; 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


I don't think this is correct: If you have a route learned by EIGRP and a
more specific (longer match) route learned by OSPF, both will go to the
routing table,  by the same reason that you still have a route learned by
any routing protocol on the table even if you have a more specific route
staticaly defined (which has a lower administrative distance). With both
routes int the routing table, then the longest match will count...

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: McCallum, Robert 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the admin distance the
better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the routing table
despite having a longer match route which was learned from say OSPF.  BUT if
you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the longest match is
the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative distance??




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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Symon Thurlow

That makes perfect sense, and is a good explanation imho

Symon

---
 Administrative Distance and the longest-match rule apply to two
separate
 processes.  Remember, there is a route installation process and a
route
 lookup process. AD matters only during the installation process.
 
 When a router receives an update for the identical route from more
than
 one routing protocol, it uses AD to determine which to actually
place
 into the routing table.  After this point, AD is irrelevant.
 
 When the router is choosing a route for a specific destination then
the
 longest-match rule comes into play and the router will *always*
choose
 the route associated with the longest matching prefix in the table.
 
 I hope that makes sense.  I haven't finished my first cup of coffee
so
 I can't be held responsible for my ramblings.  If that doesn't make
 sense, let me know and I'll rephrase it.
 
 Regards,
 John
 
  Wright, Jeremy  8/22/01 8:17:08 AM 
 So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
  10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
  10.1.1.0/26   Static
 Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.
 
   -Original Message-
   From:   McCallum, Robert
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
   To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question
 [7:16797]
 
   In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.
 
   Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower
 the
 admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get
into
 the
 routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned
 from say
 OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin
distance
 then
 the longest
   match ALWAYS wins.  
 
   Basically once the route is in the routing table then
 the
 longest match is the outmost winner.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   Does the longest match rule always override
 administrative
 distance??
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Cheers,

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Re: access-lists supported on 2948G-L3? [7:16810]

2001-08-22 Thread Tony Medeiros

Last time I looked it up,  Unless software has changed,  the 2948G-L3 only
supported standard access-lists.
I could be wrong,  did you try upgrading software ?
Tony M.

- Original Message -
From: sam sneed 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:42 AM
Subject: access-lists supported on 2948G-L3? [7:16810]


 I was trying to set up accesslists on an interface on a 2948G-L3 switch
last
 night for an hour to no avail. The switch showed my access-list when doing
a
 sh ip int fa47 and the list was correct. I even applied a new list stating
 only deny ip any any. Traffic still came through . It was applied
correctly
 as inbound as well. I did show logging and saw:

 45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
 45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
 45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
 45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
 45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)

 It looks like I need and ACL card. I never heard of this, has anyone else?
 This is an $8000 switch capable of CEF, MLS and a while bunch of other
 features.
 Please don't tell that with all these features it can't do access-lists as
 is. Its classified as a distrubution layer switch, where ironically Cisco
 says to put your access-lists in their design model and I can't seem to
get
 it going.

 any help would be appreciated...


 sam sneed




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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

you're wrong.
the /28 will be chosen.
-humboldt

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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1, for
instance, the route chosen will be the static...

Regards,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: Wright, Jeremy 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative
distance??
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Re: access-lists supported on 2948G-L3? [7:16810]

2001-08-22 Thread sam sneed

I haven't upgraded. I have only been working with cisco stuff for 3 months
so I'm kind of new to this and passing my CCNA didn't do me much good with
this problem.
This is the version. I think its current:

Cisco-2948GL3#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) L3 Switch/Router Software (CAT2948G-IN-M), Version 12.0(7)WX5(15a)
RELEASE SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 06-Jan-00 18:31 by integ
Image text-base: 0x60010928, data-base: 0x605A

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(7)W5(15) RELEASE SOFTWARE


Tony Medeiros  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Last time I looked it up,  Unless software has changed,  the 2948G-L3 only
 supported standard access-lists.
 I could be wrong,  did you try upgrading software ?
 Tony M.

 - Original Message -
 From: sam sneed
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 7:42 AM
 Subject: access-lists supported on 2948G-L3? [7:16810]


  I was trying to set up accesslists on an interface on a 2948G-L3 switch
 last
  night for an hour to no avail. The switch showed my access-list when
doing
 a
  sh ip int fa47 and the list was correct. I even applied a new list
stating
  only deny ip any any. Traffic still came through . It was applied
 correctly
  as inbound as well. I did show logging and saw:
 
  45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
  45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
  45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
  45w4d: ACL card not present for interface FastEthernet47
  45w4d: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by vty0 (172.16.10.100)
 
  It looks like I need and ACL card. I never heard of this, has anyone
else?
  This is an $8000 switch capable of CEF, MLS and a while bunch of other
  features.
  Please don't tell that with all these features it can't do access-lists
as
  is. Its classified as a distrubution layer switch, where ironically
Cisco
  says to put your access-lists in their design model and I can't seem to
 get
  it going.
 
  any help would be appreciated...
 
 
  sam sneed




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Command to route directly to host [7:16820]

2001-08-22 Thread Leonardo Toco

Hi, I need your help !!!

I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to a
specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the
packets should go there.
Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know.
Can you guys helpme ?
Thanks a lot.


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Re: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Ramsey

It's a simple static route just like you would send it to another router

the only problem here is that you aren't going to be able to route proxy
information like you want to.  The client has to be configured to use the
proxy.  Not the router.  Your best bet is to acl the default route out so
nobody can use it, then set the clients to use the proxy server as you wish.

-Patrick

 Leonardo Toco  08/22/01 11:23AM 
Hi, I need your help !!!

I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to a
specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the
packets should go there.
Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know.
Can you guys helpme ?
Thanks a lot.




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FW: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Wright, Jeremy

-Original Message-
From:   Wright, Jeremy 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:20 AM
To: 'Peter Slow'
Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

I may be wrong on this but this is what I am guessing: It will choose the
route with the lowest AD and put it into the routing table...if we have 2
routes to a network in the routing table, then the longest match applies.
Please let me know what you all think. Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From:   Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

you're wrong.
the /28 will be chosen.
-humboldt

-Original Message-
From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


In this case, if you want to communicate with the host
10.1.1.1, for
instance, the route chosen will be the static...

Regards,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: Wright, Jeremy 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28
OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP
will get into the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was
learned from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same
admin distance then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative
distance??
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Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Teresa Presutto

I bet 1$ on the static /26

Teresa
  - Original Message -
  From: Peter Slow
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


  you're wrong.
  the /28 will be chosen.
  -humboldt

  -Original Message-
  From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


  In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1, for
  instance, the route chosen will be the static...

  Regards,

  Ednilson Rosa

  - Original Message -
  From: Wright, Jeremy
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
  Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


  So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
 10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
 10.1.1.0/26   Static
  Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

  -Original Message-
  From: McCallum, Robert
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
  To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

  In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

  Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
  admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into the
  routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from
say
  OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance then
  the longest
  match ALWAYS wins.

  Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
  longest match is the outmost winner.

  -Original Message-
  From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


  Does the longest match rule always override administrative
  distance??
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ISDN speed improving by new Cisco software [7:16825]

2001-08-22 Thread Kim Quang Vo

Is any body know about new Cisco software and simple configuration on 7200
and
5300 which makes ISDN Dialup customer can connect to ISP at double speed.


Kim




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RE: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16826]

2001-08-22 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Trunking must use a Fast Ethernet or Gigabit Ethernet port, however you can
use simple access links (non-trunking connections) to a single 10 Mbps
Ethernet port on a router.  The number of VLANs the router can route is
dependent upon the number of interfaces the router has.  Each VLAN requires
its own dedicated 10 Mbps Ethernet port.


  -- Leigh Anne

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tony Medeiros
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs
[7:16786]


As far as I know,  trunking MUST be on at least a fast ethernet interface.
Another way out is put an NM-1E ethernet module on your 2610 and put each
interface in a different vlan.   Or buy a 2620.

I hate to say this, but,   this has been gone over AT LENGTH  over the last
few months.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Tony

- Original Message -
From: Hamid
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 AM
Subject: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16781]


 Hi group,

 I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's interface to be
a
 100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an ethernet
 port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?

 I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home lab,
 setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with isl
 encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to confgure the
 router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:

 Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
 Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0

 Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
 subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE 802.1Q,
 or ISL vLAN.

 The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't have
the
 ENCAPSULATION command available.

 Bellow is the output of the show version command:
 Router3#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
 Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

 Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload
 System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin

 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
 M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102


 Any idea what the problem is?

 Thanx in advance

 Hamid




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FW: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

oops. diddn't click reply all...

-Original Message-
From: Peter Slow 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:43 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; Peter Slow
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


when we speak about a network, we speak about a pair, a net id and a netmask
if we learn a route to a NETWORK, from eigrp, ospf, and from a static, we
will ONLY see the static in the routing table.

when we learn of a more specific network  (not necesarily that falls under
that network, (again, a pair, a net id and a netmask) it has a longer mask,
and although there is alread an entry that matches the network it is
specifying, it is inserted into the table. lets say we only have one of
these more specific routes, it doesnt matter where it's learned from. it
pops up in the routing table. its NOT the same network.
then, it matches all addresses matching it's network, even though they fall
under the other route with the lower admin distance, because it's LONGER.

ip route any.one.who.dis agr.ees.255.0 null 0

-humboldt

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:20 AM
To: 'Peter Slow'
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


I may be wrong on this but this is what I am guessing: It will choose the
route with the lowest AD and put it into the routing table...if we have 2
routes to a network in the routing table, then the longest match applies.
Please let me know what you all think. Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From:   Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

you're wrong.
the /28 will be chosen.
-humboldt

-Original Message-
From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


In this case, if you want to communicate with the host
10.1.1.1, for
instance, the route chosen will be the static...

Regards,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: Wright, Jeremy 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28
OSPF
   10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
   10.1.1.0/26   Static
Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP
will get into the
routing table despite having a longer match route which was
learned from say
OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same
admin distance then
the longest
match ALWAYS wins.

Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
longest match is the outmost winner.

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Does the longest match rule always override administrative
distance??
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

you meant  a router INTERFACE.
a port is a tcp or udp port.


-Original Message-
From: Leonardo Toco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]


Hi, I need your help !!!

I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to a
specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the
packets should go there.
Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know.
Can you guys helpme ?
Thanks a lot.




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RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Anatoly Shein

Hi
what are you mean exactly by unbind IP from that interface
is it 
ifconfig  0.0.0.0
for UNIX or something else

thank you in advance

toly

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]


If it is truely in promiscuos mode, there should not be any problem.  You
can test this by pinging the ip address. (It should not respond)

alot of drivers do not allow for full promiscuity however.  Remember it's
not the app that talks to the nic, it's the driver.  Some companies do offer
promiscuous drivers however if yours does not.  NAI also has their own
drivers built for specific nics.  (of course you ahve to use they're product
to take advantage) These drivers are advanced prmiscuous drivers that allow
you to see runts and the like across the wire.

But if you are willing to take a server down by putting it's nic in
promiscuous mode, why not just unbind IP from that interface?

-Patrick

 Subba Rao  08/21/01 05:39PM 
Hi,

We have 2 sniffer systems on NT and on Unix. The sniffer puts the ethernet
interfaces
on both the systems in promiscuous mode. Currently we are not worried about
any local
users on the system. Are there any threats from remote users on the
promiscuous interface,
on either system? When I say remote users, I am talking about John Doe on
our network who
has no business with either of these system. John Doe could be on Internet
as well but has
no user accounts on these systems. Would he get any vulnerable information
from the sniffer
interfaces on either system?

Thank you in advance for any info.
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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Fomes Iain

The most specific route- mask wise. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Ask me another
Bamber.   




 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Presutto [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 August 2001 16:50
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 I bet 1$ on the static /26
 
 Teresa
   - Original Message -
   From: Peter Slow
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:16 PM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   you're wrong.
   the /28 will be chosen.
   -humboldt
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1, for
   instance, the route chosen will be the static...
 
   Regards,
 
   Ednilson Rosa
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Wright, Jeremy
   To:
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
  10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
  10.1.1.0/26   Static
   Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: McCallum, Robert
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
   To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
   In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.
 
   Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
   admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get into
 the
   routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned from
 say
   OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin distance
 then
   the longest
   match ALWAYS wins.
 
   Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
   longest match is the outmost winner.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   Does the longest match rule always override administrative
   distance??
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Am i using LDP or TDP right now? [7:16832]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

I DONT get this... the commands say LDP but the output says TDP
so anyone know which this version is using? I'm looking on CCO now and have
yet to find a decisive answer...

c3660#sh version 
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3660-JS-M), Version 12.2(2)T,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
TAC Support: http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/ibld/view.pl?i=support
Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sat 02-Jun-01 17:02 by ccai
Image text-base: 0x600089C0, data-base: 0x616A

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(6r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
ROM: 3600 Software (C3660-JS-M), Version 12.2(2)T,  RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

c3660 uptime is 5 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 47 minutes
System returned to ROM by reload
System image file is flash:c3660-js-mz.122-2.T.bin

cisco 3660 (R527x) processor (revision C0) with 189440K/7168K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID JAB0443C10M
R527x CPU at 225Mhz, Implementation 40, Rev 10.0, 2048KB L2 Cache
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.


3660 Chassis type: ENTERPRISE
2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
4 Serial network interface(s)
2 Voice FXO interface(s)
2 Voice FXS interface(s)
DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity disabled.
125K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x101 (will be 0x2102 at next reload)

c3660#show mpls ldp neighbor 
Peer TDP Ident: 10.72.0.6:0; Local TDP Ident 10.0.36.60:0
TCP connection: 10.72.0.6.15826 - 10.0.36.60.711
State: Oper; PIEs sent/rcvd: 34/35; Downstream
Up time: 00:27:34
TDP discovery sources:
  Tunnel0, Src IP addr: 172.0.0.1
Addresses bound to peer TDP Ident:
  64.61.26.16164.61.24.10210.72.0.6   172.0.0.1   
  172.0.0.5   
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2611 router and ILS-2000 ISDN Simulator [7:16830]

2001-08-22 Thread Hoa Ngo

Hi! Sorry for OT. I would like to sell my 2611 (16M Flash, 64M DRAM) and 
Teltone Simulator of my lab for $2500. Please email me directly.
Thanks
Michael

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RE: FW: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Frank Maisano

Good reading on this:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/21.html


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IP in IP GRE tunneling [7:16833]

2001-08-22 Thread YY

Hi,
What's advantage or use of IP in IP GRE tunneling ?  Thank you.

Regards,
YY




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DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]

2001-08-22 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I cannot find help for this in my CIT book nor at Cisco's website, so I
would kindly ask for your assistance here.

I have three routers and two computers.

  WinNT---RouterB---RouterA---RouterC---Win98

RouterA is setup to act as a Frame Relay Switch.

RouterB and RouterC are each connected to RouterA.

The PVC between RouterB and RouterC is working great, and they are setup as
a bridged WAN, so the LAN that RouterB is connected to is also the LAN that
Router C is serving.

I have on the LAN (10.0.0.0/8) connected to RouterB an NT 4.0 Server
(10.1.1.1) with DHCP running on it. I can ping this server from RouterB and
RouterC.

I have on RouterB and RouterC typed in the following

ip dhcp server 10.1.1.1
ip dhcp relay information option

On RouterC's LAN (10.0.0.0/8) I have connected a Windows 98 workstation and
specified it to get it's IP information from a DHCP server - however, it
cannot find any.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance,

Ole

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RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread John Neiberger

Assume the following prefixes available in your routing table (taken
from original example):
10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
10.1.1.0/26   Static

All three would be entered into the table since they have different
mask lengths.  If a packet destined for 10.1.1.1 were to hit the router,
which route would it choose?  The /28 would be used because it is the
matching prefix with the longest mask length.  

To the person who contends that the /26 would be chosen, can you
explain your reasoning?

Regards,
John

 Fomes Iain  8/22/01 10:10:13 AM 
The most specific route- mask wise. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Ask me
another
Bamber.   




 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Presutto [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 22 August 2001 16:50
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject:  Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 I bet 1$ on the static /26
 
 Teresa
   - Original Message -
   From: Peter Slow
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:16 PM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   you're wrong.
   the /28 will be chosen.
   -humboldt
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1,
for
   instance, the route chosen will be the static...
 
   Regards,
 
   Ednilson Rosa
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Wright, Jeremy
   To:
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
  10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
  10.1.1.0/26   Static
   Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: McCallum, Robert
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
   To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
   In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.
 
   Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
   admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get
into
 the
   routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned
from
 say
   OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin
distance
 then
   the longest
   match ALWAYS wins.
 
   Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
   longest match is the outmost winner.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
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   Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]
 
 
   Does the longest match rule always override administrative
   distance??
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RE: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]

2001-08-22 Thread YY

Loopback is always advertised as 32bit host route no matter what mask you
assign to it.
To advertise it as a subnet route, use ip ospf network point-to-point
under int loop0

Cheers,
YY


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Subject: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]


Is there a preferred addressing scheme for loopback address when
implementing OSPF?
Recently, I read in Cisco Routers for IP Routing, Little Black Book using
10.0.0.2/32?  What is your experience using 32 bit mask?

Thank you.
Dorothy


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RE: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]

2001-08-22 Thread YY

Use policy routing:

int s0
 ip policy route-map TEST

route-map TEST permit
 match ip address 1
 set ip next-hop (your host IP)

access-list 1 permit any


Cheers,
YY

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Subject: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]


Hi, I need your help !!!

I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to a
specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the
packets should go there.
Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know.
Can you guys helpme ?
Thanks a lot.




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RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

It rally depends on your version of ifconfig/what kernel your using/what
adapter you have.
Tell us those things and we'll try and help.

otherwise read RTFM
(granted the man page doesnt have the promisc flag, the option for you is
promisc.)

-humboldt

bash-2.03$ man ifconfig

IFCONFIG(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual
IFCONFIG(8)

NAME
 ifconfig - configure network interface parameters

SYNOPSIS
 ifconfig interface address_family [address [dest_address]] [parameters]
 ifconfig -a [-d] [-u] [address_family]
 ifconfig -l [-d] [-u] [address_family]

DESCRIPTION
 Ifconfig is used to assign an address to a network interface and/or
con-
 figure network interface parameters.  Ifconfig must be used at boot
time
 to define the network address of each interface present on a machine;
it
 may also be used at a later time to redefine an interface's address or
 other operating parameters.

 The following options are available:

 address
 For the DARPA-Internet family, the address is either a host
name
 present in the host name data base, hosts(5),  or a DARPA
Inter-
 net address expressed in the Internet standard ``dot
notation''.

 address_family
 Specify the address family which affects interpretation of the
 remaining parameters.  Since an interface can receive transmis-
 sions in differing protocols with different naming schemes,
spec-
 ifying the address family is recommended.  The address or
proto-
 col families currently supported are ``inet'', ``atalk'', and
 ``ipx''.

 dest_address
 Specify the address of the correspondent on the other end of a
 point to point link.

 interface
 This parameter is a string of the form ``name unit'', for exam-
 ple, ``en0''.

 The following parameters may be set with ifconfig:

 alias   Establish an additional network address for this interface.
This
 is sometimes useful when changing network numbers, and one
wishes
 to accept packets addressed to the old interface.

 arp Enable the use of the Address Resolution Protocol in mapping
be-
 tween network level addresses and link level addresses
(default).
 This is currently implemented for mapping between DARPA
Internet
 addresses and 10Mb/s Ethernet addresses.

 -arpDisable the use of the Address Resolution Protocol.

 broadcast
 (Inet only) Specify the address to use to represent broadcasts
to
 the network.  The default broadcast address is the address with
a
 host part of all 1's.

 debug   Enable driver dependent debugging code; usually, this turns on
 extra console error logging.

 -debug  Disable driver dependent debugging code.

 delete  Remove the network address specified.  This would be used if
you
 incorrectly specified an alias, or it was no longer needed.  If
 you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side effect
of
 specifying the host portion, removing all NS addresses will
allow
 you to respecify the host portion.

 downMark an interface ``down''.  When an interface is marked
 ``down'', the system will not attempt to transmit messages
 through that interface.  If possible, the interface will be
reset
 to disable reception as well.  This action does not
automatically
 disable routes using the interface.

 media type
 If the driver supports the media selection system, set the
media
 type of the interface to type. Some interfaces support the
mutu-
 ally exclusive use of one of several different physical media
 connectors.  For example, a 10Mb/s Ethernet interface might
sup-
 port the use of either AUI or twisted pair connectors.  Setting
 the media type to ``10base5/AUI'' would change the currently
ac-
 tive connector to the AUI port.  Setting it to ``10baseT/UTP''
 would activate twisted pair.  Refer to the interfaces' driver
 specific documentation or man page for a complete list of the
 available types.

 mediaopt opts
 If the driver supports the media selection system, set the
speci-
 fied media options on the interface.  Opts is a comma delimited
 list of options to apply to the interface.  Refer to the inter-
 faces' driver specific man page for a complete list of
available
 options.

 -mediaopt opts
 If the driver supports the media selection system, disable the
 specified media options on the interface.

 metric n
 Set the routing metric of the interface to n, default 0.  The
 routing metric 

RE: The choice of default-network [7:16777]

2001-08-22 Thread YY

All of them, as long as the network is reachable.
Packets will be load-balanced for those 5 default routes.

Cheers,
YY

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Vijendra Jaiswal
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The choice of default-network [7:16777]


Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing table .
For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and BGP
running
Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
 Deault network :192.181.35.0
Default network: 192.140.0.0

Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0

All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network in
the routing table.

Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given , which
one of them will be listed in the routing table as gateway of last resort
when one sees using the command show ip route . And pls tell me on what
basis the  particular network will be choosen as gateway of last resort

Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for meThanks.
Vijendra






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RE: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

btw, i think you should remove any configuratio you have on the routers
pertaining to DHCP.
you dont need them. we are BRIDGED =)
helper addresses and the like are for routed stuff, we dont want that here.
have you tried this config without any dhcp stuff on the routers?

...this is what i would recomend.

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Subject: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]


I cannot find help for this in my CIT book nor at Cisco's website, so I
would kindly ask for your assistance here.

I have three routers and two computers.

  WinNT---RouterB---RouterA---RouterC---Win98

RouterA is setup to act as a Frame Relay Switch.

RouterB and RouterC are each connected to RouterA.

The PVC between RouterB and RouterC is working great, and they are setup as
a bridged WAN, so the LAN that RouterB is connected to is also the LAN that
Router C is serving.

I have on the LAN (10.0.0.0/8) connected to RouterB an NT 4.0 Server
(10.1.1.1) with DHCP running on it. I can ping this server from RouterB and
RouterC.

I have on RouterB and RouterC typed in the following

ip dhcp server 10.1.1.1
ip dhcp relay information option

On RouterC's LAN (10.0.0.0/8) I have connected a Windows 98 workstation and
specified it to get it's IP information from a DHCP server - however, it
cannot find any.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance,

Ole

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RE: IP in IP GRE tunneling [7:16833]

2001-08-22 Thread Juliano Moises da Luz

I think the main advantage is easy to configure and troubleshoot. We have
all VPN links using GRE tunneling with and without IPSEC and it works fine. 

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Subject: IP in IP GRE tunneling [7:16833]


Hi,
What's advantage or use of IP in IP GRE tunneling ?  Thank you.

Regards,
YY




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RE: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16841]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

I know you meant ethernet trunking. of course you did, you couldnt have
forgotten ATM and FDDI. Or token ring for that matter.
And you meant fastethernet interface, diddnt you?
-humboldt


-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs
[7:16826]


Trunking must use a Fast Ethernet or Gigabit Ethernet port, however you can
use simple access links (non-trunking connections) to a single 10 Mbps
Ethernet port on a router.  The number of VLANs the router can route is
dependent upon the number of interfaces the router has.  Each VLAN requires
its own dedicated 10 Mbps Ethernet port.


  -- Leigh Anne

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Tony Medeiros
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs
[7:16786]


As far as I know,  trunking MUST be on at least a fast ethernet interface.
Another way out is put an NM-1E ethernet module on your 2610 and put each
interface in a different vlan.   Or buy a 2620.

I hate to say this, but,   this has been gone over AT LENGTH  over the last
few months.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Tony

- Original Message -
From: Hamid
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 AM
Subject: Problem Using external routers to route between VLANs [7:16781]


 Hi group,

 I was wondering if it is A MUST for the external routers's interface to be
a
 100Mb interface, is it possible to do the InterVlan routing on an ethernet
 port (10Mb) on a 2600 router?

 I tried to setup a simple scenario with my 2600 router in my home lab,
 setting the port connected to the 2600 router to TRUNK mode with isl
 encapsulation , and allowing all vlans. But when I tried to confgure the
 router's sub-interfaces I the following errors:

 Router3(config)#int ethernet 0/0.2
 Router3(config-subif)#ip address 10.10.2.1 255.255.255.0

 Configuring IP routing on a LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
 subinterface is already configured as part of an IEEE 802.10, IEEE 802.1Q,
 or ISL vLAN.

 The other problem was that inthe SUBIF configuration mode I didn't have
the
 ENCAPSULATION command available.

 Bellow is the output of the show version command:
 Router3#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-IO3-M), Version 12.2(3), RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 18-Jul-01 17:11 by pwade
 Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x809C818C

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

 Router3 uptime is 6 hours, 3 minutes
 System returned to ROM by reload
 System image file is flash:c2600-io3-mz.122-3.bin

 cisco 2610 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x203) with 28672K/4096K bytes of
 memory.
 Processor board ID JAD04390FCB (93659888)
 M860 processor: part number 0, mask 49
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

 Configuration register is 0x2102


 Any idea what the problem is?

 Thanx in advance

 Hamid




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THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt




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What type console cable for Cisco 1003? [7:16844]

2001-08-22 Thread Romeo

I have a 1003 router but without the console cable. I tryed to connect it
with a rollover cable from a 2501 router but I failed. So what type of
console cable I need for connect to the 1003 router. I don't know the IP
address and I need to assign one.

TIA
Romeo




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Re: Able to Traceroute but Unable to ping to IPs [7:16847]

2001-08-22 Thread Kiran Kumar M

Hai,

Can anyone please response, I am facing following problem with the
following IPs. I am able to traceroute to that IPs, but unable to ping. At
the same time Mail and web servers on that IPs are also not
accessible. Can any body suggest solution for this..

IPs : 202.65.134.161, 162,168

 I am tryig to analyse a problem that is existing in my network. I have a
 link with PPP on WAN, Till four days back everything working fine. The
 problem started four days back, the problem is I am able to traceroute the
 IPs, but unable to ping to that network. I didn't restricted ICMP on
 end user. What could be the problem, Does any one had this kind of
 problem? 
 
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Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

2001-08-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

You are right and I was wrong. OSPF /28 would be correct in this case.

My apologies,

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


Assume the following prefixes available in your routing table (taken
from original example):
10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
10.1.1.0/26   Static

All three would be entered into the table since they have different
mask lengths.  If a packet destined for 10.1.1.1 were to hit the router,
which route would it choose?  The /28 would be used because it is the
matching prefix with the longest mask length.

To the person who contends that the /26 would be chosen, can you
explain your reasoning?

Regards,
John

 Fomes Iain  8/22/01 10:10:13 AM 
The most specific route- mask wise. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Ask me
another
Bamber.




 -Original Message-
 From: Teresa Presutto [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 August 2001 16:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

 I bet 1$ on the static /26

 Teresa
   - Original Message -
   From: Peter Slow
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:16 PM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


   you're wrong.
   the /28 will be chosen.
   -humboldt

   -Original Message-
   From: Ednilson Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:51 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


   In this case, if you want to communicate with the host 10.1.1.1,
for
   instance, the route chosen will be the static...

   Regards,

   Ednilson Rosa

   - Original Message -
   From: Wright, Jeremy
   To:
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:17 AM
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


   So for example, if you have the following   10.1.1.0/28   OSPF
  10.1.0.0/24   EIGRP
  10.1.1.0/26   Static
   Which route will be chosen?  Thanks for the help.

   -Original Message-
   From: McCallum, Robert
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:32 AM
   To: 'Wright, Jeremy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]

   In a nut shell yes and no.  i.e.

   Admin distance is the winner by means that the lower the
   admin distance the better, so a route learned from EIGRP will get
into
 the
   routing table despite having a longer match route which was learned
from
 say
   OSPF.  BUT if you have two routes learned from the same admin
distance
 then
   the longest
   match ALWAYS wins.

   Basically once the route is in the routing table then the
   longest match is the outmost winner.

   -Original Message-
   From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 22 August 2001 14:19
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Quick CCIE Written Question [7:16797]


   Does the longest match rule always override administrative
   distance??
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RE: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]

2001-08-22 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I was already in the middle of doing so - sorry for not thinking of that
before posting the message.

I am able to ping RouterC from my Win98, but I cannot ping any futher than
that, so something is not being switched between interfaces I guess.

However, as it many times goes when you have to explain the problem and show
the config, you happen to see the problem yourself, and that's exactly what
I did here.

I had on the FE interface of RouterC forgotten to type the bridge-group
command, so that interface was not a member of the bridging environment.

I have now just removed the static IP and rebooted the PC, and it got a good
dynamic IP this time from the DHCP server.

Thanks,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:33 AM
To: 'Ole Drews Jensen'
Subject: RE: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]


I would suggest adding an address to the workstation in the 10.0.0.0/8
network and see if it can ping the server across the bridges as test to make
sure the bridging is actually working end-to-end.

I would also check and make sure you have the bridge irb command or ip
routing turned off on the routers.

Could you post the pertinent router configs?

-Original Message-
From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]


I cannot find help for this in my CIT book nor at Cisco's website, so I
would kindly ask for your assistance here.

I have three routers and two computers.

  WinNT---RouterB---RouterA---RouterC---Win98

RouterA is setup to act as a Frame Relay Switch.

RouterB and RouterC are each connected to RouterA.

The PVC between RouterB and RouterC is working great, and they are setup as
a bridged WAN, so the LAN that RouterB is connected to is also the LAN that
Router C is serving.

I have on the LAN (10.0.0.0/8) connected to RouterB an NT 4.0 Server
(10.1.1.1) with DHCP running on it. I can ping this server from RouterB and
RouterC.

I have on RouterB and RouterC typed in the following

ip dhcp server 10.1.1.1
ip dhcp relay information option

On RouterC's LAN (10.0.0.0/8) I have connected a Windows 98 workstation and
specified it to get it's IP information from a DHCP server - however, it
cannot find any.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance,

Ole

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Re: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]

2001-08-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:59 PM 8/21/01, Tony Medeiros wrote:
I always thought split horizon was a non intuitive term anyway.  iBGP or
whatever.  Some engineers come up with the strangest names for things.

Split horizon implys there is a big tree that is obstructing my view of the
sunset. :0

Is it a spanning tree? ;-)

I like the term split horizon and agree with the idea of using it 
generically. I encourage the generic use of most terms so that people think 
about what they really mean. See a discussion we had earlier about distance 
vector, for example.

For spanning tree, I like the way Radia Perlman puts it:

The purpose of the spanning tree algorithm is to have bridges dynamically 
discover a subset of the topology that is loop-free (a tree) and yet has 
enough connectivity so that where physically possible, there is a path 
between every pair of LANs (the tree is spanning).

I'm not sure I had ever thought about why the word spanning is in the 
phrase. And I would add to her description:

A tree is a mathematical concept. A tree is a diagram or graph that 
branches from a single stem without forming loops or polygons.

A lot of people learn these terms without understanding them.

And, back to the subject, I think split horizon can be used in this 
situation, even though it's a bit different and the horizons aren't quite 
the same.

Priscilla

(wishing she was looking over the Hawaiian horizon about now. ;-)



Tony M.
(Split personnality)

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]


  I thought I was fairly careful in stating that with iBGP split-horizon,
an
  iBGP router will not advertise a route to the same AS from which it
receives
  the route. This covers the interface issue.
 
  Chuck
  whose mama didn't raise no fool, and whose lawyer wife has taught him the
  hard way about wording things ;-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:52 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
 
 
  Chuck, I think there's a difference here. Split Horizon as you say, does
not
  advertise a route back out the interface that it received it on, but the
  iBGP does not only not propagate a route learned from other iBGP out the
  receiving interface, but it does not propagate it out any interfaces
unless
  it has been setup as a cluster server.
 
  If you would name this, it would probably be something like iBGP
horizon
  :-)
 
  Just my 0010 cents.
 
  Ole
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:29 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
 
 
  As a result of an off-list conversation, I came across the following
  networking term:
 
  iBGP split horizon
 
  my first reaction was a sarcastic remark about never having come across
the
  term in the RFC's. but then I got to thinking about it, and I now see
this
  as a descriptive and quite useful term.
 
  recall that distance vector protocols are subject to the rule of split
  horizon. they do not advertise a route back out the interface that they
  received that particular route.
 
  one of the gotchas of iBGP is the fact that iBGP routers do not propagate
  routes learned from one iBGP neighbor to other iBGP neighbors. hence the
  requirement for iBGP full mesh.
 
  so why not call this iBGP split horizon? and define it as follows: an
iBGP
  router will not advertise a route back out the same AS from which it
learned
  the route?
 
  does this make sense? worth letting this one join the lexicon of
networking
  terminology?
 
  Chuck


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RE: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]

2001-08-22 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I will try that right away Peter, hold on.

.GREAT! - It worked.

I have never before dealt with the DHCP nor bridged WAN on Cisco routers, so
that was a pleasant little experience, and I am now a little smarter :-)

Thanks again Peter,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]


btw, i think you should remove any configuratio you have on the routers
pertaining to DHCP.
you dont need them. we are BRIDGED =)
helper addresses and the like are for routed stuff, we dont want that here.
have you tried this config without any dhcp stuff on the routers?

...this is what i would recomend.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DHCP problems on bridged WAN over Frame Relay [7:16834]


I cannot find help for this in my CIT book nor at Cisco's website, so I
would kindly ask for your assistance here.

I have three routers and two computers.

  WinNT---RouterB---RouterA---RouterC---Win98

RouterA is setup to act as a Frame Relay Switch.

RouterB and RouterC are each connected to RouterA.

The PVC between RouterB and RouterC is working great, and they are setup as
a bridged WAN, so the LAN that RouterB is connected to is also the LAN that
Router C is serving.

I have on the LAN (10.0.0.0/8) connected to RouterB an NT 4.0 Server
(10.1.1.1) with DHCP running on it. I can ping this server from RouterB and
RouterC.

I have on RouterB and RouterC typed in the following

ip dhcp server 10.1.1.1
ip dhcp relay information option

On RouterC's LAN (10.0.0.0/8) I have connected a Windows 98 workstation and
specified it to get it's IP information from a DHCP server - however, it
cannot find any.

What am I missing here?

Thanks in advance,

Ole

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RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Marshal Schoener

Uh, I think you meant UDP ports!!!
If you are going to get on peoples cases for being wrong, at least try and
be correct ;)
No offense of course :)



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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt




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Re: What type console cable for Cisco 1003? [7:16844]

2001-08-22 Thread Paul C

Please check here

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/1000ig/1003_d
oc/78907.htm#xtocid736213
Romeo  wrote in message
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 I have a 1003 router but without the console cable. I tryed to connect it
 with a rollover cable from a 2501 router but I failed. So what type of
 console cable I need for connect to the 1003 router. I don't know the IP
 address and I need to assign one.

 TIA
 Romeo




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SE Practice Lab v1.0GG [7:16852]

2001-08-22 Thread Jim Brown

Does anyone have the solution for this lab?




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RE: Netbeyond Etherswitch 1220 [7:16788]

2001-08-22 Thread Sapp Andrew

I have one of those switches and I have upgraded it to the lastest version
of enterprise firmware.  It is menu based with no option for a CLI.


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Re: incorrect TCP checksum [7:16776]

2001-08-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Is this an academic question or are you actually seeing TCP checksum 
errors? I have never seen a TCP checksum error, so I wondered. Well, I have 
seen them when people change the data in Sniffer traces without 
recalculating the checksum, but that's not real world.

In answer to your question, TCP checksum errors would have to be a software 
bug, or possibly firmware bug if TCP were implemented in firmware.

If the frame gets damaged in transit, it gets trashed by the recipient 
because the data-link-layer CRC isn't right. If the routing process or IP 
implementation trashes the frame, then the IP checksum won't be right and 
TCP trashes the frame.

If the frame gets all the way to TCP and ends up with a checksum error, 
then software at the TCP layer damaged it.

I think your real question might be what is causing TCP retransmissions? 
TCP transmissions can result from errors at any layer that caused a frame 
or an acknowledgement to not reach the intended recipient. TCP 
retransmissions are much more likely to result from the following potential 
errors than from a TCP checksum error:

Frames getting damaged in transit and getting trashed
 Issue a show int and check reliability and CRC error rates
 If Ethernet, check for excessive collisions, duplex mismatch
problems

Routers or switches dropping frames due to buffer overflows
 Issue a show int and check for dropped frames
 Issue a show buffer and check for problems

Frames getting dropped by service provider
 If frame relay, check that you aren't going above your CIR


There's probably a bunch of other reasons. I recommend the various Cisco 
Internetwork Troubleshooting books. The Cisco Press one is very  good.

One other thought: a few retransmissions are normal. You might want to 
check the percentage. I hesitate to give a threshold, but if it's just a 
few percent of your frames getting retransmitted, don't worry about it. Are 
users noticing a problem? That's the bottom line.

Priscilla

At 03:30 AM 8/22/01, Anatoly Shein wrote:
Hi
According to my knowledge incorrect TCP check sum cause to TCP
retransmissions.
What could be reason for incorrect TCP checksum?
As I understand it could be problem in one of the router/proxy probably
switch.
And intuitively I think that problem should be wherever in OS.
Can you give me any suggestion about detection of the fault machine or
source to find more info about this problem.

Suggestions I mean something more constructive than putting sniffers on each
leg of the device and look for TCP checksum errors.


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RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The issue isn't someone coming in the promiscuous interface. The issue is a 
hacker compromising the machine by getting in another interface and 
discovering that there is sniffer software on the machine. You have made 
the hacker's job really easy.

Of course, a good hacker would be able to install sniffer software on a 
compromised machine anyway.

Priscilla


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]


If it is truely in promiscuos mode, there should not be any problem.  You
can test this by pinging the ip address. (It should not respond)

alot of drivers do not allow for full promiscuity however.  Remember it's
not the app that talks to the nic, it's the driver.  Some companies do offer
promiscuous drivers however if yours does not.  NAI also has their own
drivers built for specific nics.  (of course you ahve to use they're product
to take advantage) These drivers are advanced prmiscuous drivers that allow
you to see runts and the like across the wire.

But if you are willing to take a server down by putting it's nic in
promiscuous mode, why not just unbind IP from that interface?

-Patrick

  Subba Rao  08/21/01 05:39PM 
Hi,

We have 2 sniffer systems on NT and on Unix. The sniffer puts the ethernet
interfaces
on both the systems in promiscuous mode. Currently we are not worried about
any local
users on the system. Are there any threats from remote users on the
promiscuous interface,
on either system? When I say remote users, I am talking about John Doe on
our network who
has no business with either of these system. John Doe could be on Internet
as well but has
no user accounts on these systems. Would he get any vulnerable information
from the sniffer
interfaces on either system?

Thank you in advance for any info.
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Re: The choice of default-network [7:16777]

2001-08-22 Thread Sasha

Hi,

If all 5 default networks are reachable from your router, then,
all five will be considered as candidate defaults (will be marked
with * in RT). However, only one of five will be chosen as a gateway
of last resort. The choice is based on a comparison of administrative
distances:
the route with the lowest AD will be chosen (hence, in some cases you may
influence that if necessary).
If case of equal ADs, the network listed first in the RT is chosen as a
gateway
(don't know why, but it is so, I checked this. I'd prefer a choice based on
route metrics, but...).

There is also a special case when both ip default-network and
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 are configured. The choice again depends on AD
(e.g., if ip route 0.0.0.0 is configured as a static route it will be
preferred).

Finally, if multiple ip route 0.0.0.0 0 0.0.0.0 are configured, then (and
only then)
the traffic will be load-balanced between multiple routes.

I remember I read a document at CCO on that, but cannot locate it right now.

Cheers,
Alex
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Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It 
uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch).

Priscilla

At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote:
an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
 ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt


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Re: DHCP on Ethernet interface [7:16746]

2001-08-22 Thread Paul Werner

I feel your pain, but keep this all in perspective.  You will 
ultimately be able to get some form of high speed data over 
cable access.  Where I live here in the PRNV( People's Republik 
of Northern Virginia), I am within 20 miles of five of the 
world's largest ISPs.  The best access I can get is a 56k 
dialup line.  //RANT OVER//

Now, regarding the less than tactful engineer who is trying 
desperately hard not to help you, it would appear that he is in 
over his head.  It may be useful to do a little troubleshooting 
on your own.

For example, you are given a reasonable indication that this 
cable operator favors using the low end addresses for a gateway 
on a particular segment.  The issue is what segment are you 
actually on?  Give the scope information you provided, here are 
some of the possibilities:

24.65.134.1 to 24.65.135.254  (assume 24.65.134.1 is the 
gateway).  From your router, you will need to temporarily go 
back to hard coded IP addresses.  Set your IP address to 
24.65.134.40 and a subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 and see if you 
can reach your gateway(I can from my house - if it's yours).  
If the answer is yes, you can reach it as well, then this can 
be communicated to the fine staff at your local cable 
operator.  If OTOH, you cannot reach that gateway, you are 
probably on another IP subnet.  

The logical next choice would definitely be to try and reach 
24.65.142.1.  The problem is that your IP addr is not from that 
subnet.  As much as I hate to suggest this, go ahead and hard 
code on your router an IP addr from the subnet this gateway is 
from(choices are 24.65.142.2 through 24.65.143.254)  I would 
probably go with a high value near the end of the range (say 
24.65.143.241).  See if you are now able to reach the gateway.  
One of these two methods will work (most likely the first 
method).

Once you are clear exactly what subnet you are on, I suspect 
you could probably hard code the values in your router until 
somebody that has a brain can fix the DHCP server.  
Additionally, you will also need to track down the other DHCP 
options that are handed out.  When I tested this a little while 
back, I believe that the DHCP client on the router did not 
necessarily accept all options that were passed from the DHCP 
server.  Probably the most important ones you will need are the 
DNS servers.  Once you have the correct info, you then will 
have all the necessary parameters to program your DHCP server 
on your private network for the hosts in your home.

There is one other tactic you may want to use as well.  If push 
comes to shove and they absolutely refuse to deal with you and 
your cisco router, then go to one of your PCs and get the MAC 
address from the NIC card.  Go to the router interface facing 
the cable modem and enter the following command on that 
interface:

router(config)#int e0
router(config-if)#mac-address (your PC's MAC addr)
router(config-if)#shut
router(config-if)#no shut
router(config-if)#end

When they call back and attempt to troubleshoot, play along 
with them.  When they tell you to look at winipcfg, you know 
where to go on your router to get the info that you need.  
Sometimes, you need to get into the head of the person you are 
dealing with and put it in terms they can understand.

Hang in there :-)  Let us know if you achieve victory.

v/r,

Paul Werner



 Well, I've found the IOS that runs DHCP client, and I've 
found the
 command.
 I've just spent the past 4 hours trying to resolve why I'm 
getting
 encapsulation failure messages after the DHCP Offer is made 
from the
 service
 provider (Shaw @ Home) and have discovered the following:
 
 My IP Address: 24.65.134.40
 Subnet Mask:  255.255.254.0
 Gateway:   24.65.142.1
 
 Anyone see a problem?
 
 If you do, then you're one up on Shaw Cable's technical 
support.  They
 won't
 look at the problem because it's a Cisco router at the other 
end--an
 unsupported device.  But the device isn't the problem--their 
scope
 configuration is.
 
 No, I can't get any information on who it is that I'm 
speaking with
 other
 than his name is Darren.
 
 No, I can't speak to a supervisor.
 
 And no, I can't continue talking either because I've just 
been hung up
 on.
 
 What excellent customer service.  Just what exactly is 
technical support
 for?
 
 So if anyone out there knows anyone at Shaw, they might want 
to mention
 their problem to them.  And no, I'm not just talking about 
their
 interpersonal skills.
 
 So thanks to everyone who tried to help me get this going...


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Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread sam sneed

Well, I see the terminology police are at it again


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 an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
 a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
 i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

 Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
 wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

 c3660#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
 ^
 % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

 c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
 c3660(config-if)#^Z
 c3660#SEE!?
 % Unrecognized command
 c3660#SEE!
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RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

Yipes! Yer right! I meant UDP!

No offense taken, and in my opinion nothing said on this news grop should be
taken personally unless explicity stated that doing so should be done.
(huh?)

-humboldt

-Original Message-
From: Marshal Schoener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


Uh, I think you meant UDP ports!!!
If you are going to get on peoples cases for being wrong, at least try and
be correct ;)
No offense of course :)



-Original Message-
From: Peter Slow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt




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RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Discovering a sniffer on the machine?  upon root compromise I can assure you
tcpdump will be there regardless... :)  And on the NT machine, netcat.  Hell
if it's NT and sitting on the internet, it probably already has netcat on
it... :)



to original poster:

To unbind ip from the nt machine, simply remove the ip address on the
adapter through network neighborhood.

-Patrick

 Priscilla Oppenheimer  08/22/01 01:55PM 
The issue isn't someone coming in the promiscuous interface. The issue is a 
hacker compromising the machine by getting in another interface and 
discovering that there is sniffer software on the machine. You have made 
the hacker's job really easy.

Of course, a good hacker would be able to install sniffer software on a 
compromised machine anyway.

Priscilla


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]


If it is truely in promiscuos mode, there should not be any problem.  You
can test this by pinging the ip address. (It should not respond)

alot of drivers do not allow for full promiscuity however.  Remember it's
not the app that talks to the nic, it's the driver.  Some companies do offer
promiscuous drivers however if yours does not.  NAI also has their own
drivers built for specific nics.  (of course you ahve to use they're product
to take advantage) These drivers are advanced prmiscuous drivers that allow
you to see runts and the like across the wire.

But if you are willing to take a server down by putting it's nic in
promiscuous mode, why not just unbind IP from that interface?

-Patrick

  Subba Rao  08/21/01 05:39PM 
Hi,

We have 2 sniffer systems on NT and on Unix. The sniffer puts the ethernet
interfaces
on both the systems in promiscuous mode. Currently we are not worried about
any local
users on the system. Are there any threats from remote users on the
promiscuous interface,
on either system? When I say remote users, I am talking about John Doe on
our network who
has no business with either of these system. John Doe could be on Internet
as well but has
no user accounts on these systems. Would he get any vulnerable information
from the sniffer
interfaces on either system?

Thank you in advance for any info.
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RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

if you guys would just stop using hubs and
non-unicast mac-addresses, we'd all be fine =)



-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]


The issue isn't someone coming in the promiscuous interface. The issue is a 
hacker compromising the machine by getting in another interface and 
discovering that there is sniffer software on the machine. You have made 
the hacker's job really easy.

Of course, a good hacker would be able to install sniffer software on a 
compromised machine anyway.

Priscilla


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Promiscous interface and remote users [7:16734]


If it is truely in promiscuos mode, there should not be any problem.  You
can test this by pinging the ip address. (It should not respond)

alot of drivers do not allow for full promiscuity however.  Remember it's
not the app that talks to the nic, it's the driver.  Some companies do
offer
promiscuous drivers however if yours does not.  NAI also has their own
drivers built for specific nics.  (of course you ahve to use they're
product
to take advantage) These drivers are advanced prmiscuous drivers that allow
you to see runts and the like across the wire.

But if you are willing to take a server down by putting it's nic in
promiscuous mode, why not just unbind IP from that interface?

-Patrick

  Subba Rao  08/21/01 05:39PM 
Hi,

We have 2 sniffer systems on NT and on Unix. The sniffer puts the ethernet
interfaces
on both the systems in promiscuous mode. Currently we are not worried about
any local
users on the system. Are there any threats from remote users on the
promiscuous interface,
on either system? When I say remote users, I am talking about John Doe on
our network who
has no business with either of these system. John Doe could be on Internet
as well but has
no user accounts on these systems. Would he get any vulnerable information
from the sniffer
interfaces on either system?

Thank you in advance for any info.
--

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GPG public key ID CCB7344E
Key fingerprint = A8DD 4CBA 1E9B D962 A55B  2B55 BAFE 92C5 CCB7 344E


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Re: What type console cable for Cisco 1003? [7:16844]

2001-08-22 Thread Ednilson Rosa

A rollover cable should work! Maybe you have a defective router.

Ednilson Rosa

- Original Message -
From: Romeo 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:09 PM
Subject: What type console cable for Cisco 1003? [7:16844]


I have a 1003 router but without the console cable. I tryed to connect it
with a rollover cable from a 2501 router but I failed. So what type of
console cable I need for connect to the 1003 router. I don't know the IP
address and I need to assign one.

TIA
Romeo




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Re: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]

2001-08-22 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

or an interface on a switch
 a hole in a ship :)

- Original Message -
From: Peter Slow 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]


 you meant  a router INTERFACE.
 a port is a tcp or udp port.


 -Original Message-
 From: Leonardo Toco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Command to route directly to host [7:16820]


 Hi, I need your help !!!

 I need to set a router to route all the incoming in a determined serial to
a
 specific host and not to a router port, this host is a proxy and all the
 packets should go there.
 Maybe there is a simple command but I really dont know.
 Can you guys helpme ?
 Thanks a lot.




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Secure ID for Routers [7:16865]

2001-08-22 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings all,

I want to test secure ID to implement on our routers, any of you guys prefer
certain product?  I also want to use the hardware version of secure ID
(little credit card look alike).

Thanks..Nabil




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Re: Able to Traceroute but Unable to ping to IPs [7:16847]

2001-08-22 Thread Kiran Kumar M

Did Anyone faced the following problem anytime? 

 Hai,
 
 Can anyone please response, I am facing following problem with the
 following IPs. I am able to traceroute to that IPs, but unable to ping. At
 the same time Mail and web servers on that IPs are also not
 accessible. Can any body suggest solution for this..
 
 IPs : 202.65.134.161, 162,168
 
  I am tryig to analyse a problem that is existing in my network. I have a
  link with PPP on WAN, Till four days back everything working fine. The
  problem started four days back, the problem is I am able to traceroute
the
  IPs, but unable to ping to that network. I didn't restricted ICMP on
  end user. What could be the problem, Does any one had this kind of
  problem? 
  
  Thanks in Advance,




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Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Then why are they called port adapters you know slot/adapter/port
serial 0/1/2
would be in the first slot
second adapter
third port
that is where i would interface my cable coming from the dsu
30 minutes to the big seat - the written
8 months to the big stand - the lab
and there i go goofing around on this list



- Original Message -
From: Peter Slow 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


 an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
 a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
 i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

 Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
 wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

 c3660#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
 ^
 % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

 c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
 c3660(config-if)#^Z
 c3660#SEE!?
 % Unrecognized command
 c3660#SEE!
 -humboldt




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RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Slow

YES! Yes they do! So does juniper in all of their manuals. and in their
configs as well.
they are wrong also!

We must keep these evil minions at bay. All! Join me!




-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


Does the IEEE get it wrong? Check IEEE 802.1D, the bridging standard. It 
uses ports for the physical interfaces on a bridge (switch).

Priscilla

At 01:08 PM 8/22/01, Peter Slow wrote:
an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
 ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt


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Re: Able to Traceroute but Unable to ping to IPs [7:16847]

2001-08-22 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Sounds like firewall issues...

high icmp ports might be open, whereas low are not and smtp and web are
not... maybe all low ip service ports are being blocked and all highs are
being allowed from some freaky ACL

Try removing all acl's and start from ground zero.

-Patrick

 Kiran Kumar M  08/22/01 02:33PM 
Did Anyone faced the following problem anytime? 

 Hai,
 
 Can anyone please response, I am facing following problem with the
 following IPs. I am able to traceroute to that IPs, but unable to ping. At
 the same time Mail and web servers on that IPs are also not
 accessible. Can any body suggest solution for this..
 
 IPs : 202.65.134.161, 162,168
 
  I am tryig to analyse a problem that is existing in my network. I have a
  link with PPP on WAN, Till four days back everything working fine. The
  problem started four days back, the problem is I am able to traceroute
the
  IPs, but unable to ping to that network. I didn't restricted ICMP on
  end user. What could be the problem, Does any one had this kind of
  problem? 
  
  Thanks in Advance,




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Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Van Oene

What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. 

I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context
sensitive meanings.  If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be
even more convinced of this.  I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't
see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I
believe strongly in technical accuracy.  Nor do I see how inferring that
people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process.

Pete


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote:

an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt




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Re: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]

2001-08-22 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Since we are talking about new networking terms you coined one the other day
Priscilla. It was in the splitting the group string. You described people
coming on this list, asking horribly worded questions, that were probably
quickly brain-dumped to a palm pilot then regurgitated here. This is after
a booming failure. So that is a new networking/list term.
Palm-Pilot English.
And the coin is yours.
Don
P.S. That busted me up!!


- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]


 At 11:59 PM 8/21/01, Tony Medeiros wrote:
 I always thought split horizon was a non intuitive term anyway.  iBGP
or
 whatever.  Some engineers come up with the strangest names for things.
 
 Split horizon implys there is a big tree that is obstructing my view of
the
 sunset. :0

 Is it a spanning tree? ;-)

 I like the term split horizon and agree with the idea of using it
 generically. I encourage the generic use of most terms so that people
think
 about what they really mean. See a discussion we had earlier about
distance
 vector, for example.

 For spanning tree, I like the way Radia Perlman puts it:

 The purpose of the spanning tree algorithm is to have bridges dynamically
 discover a subset of the topology that is loop-free (a tree) and yet has
 enough connectivity so that where physically possible, there is a path
 between every pair of LANs (the tree is spanning).

 I'm not sure I had ever thought about why the word spanning is in the
 phrase. And I would add to her description:

 A tree is a mathematical concept. A tree is a diagram or graph that
 branches from a single stem without forming loops or polygons.

 A lot of people learn these terms without understanding them.

 And, back to the subject, I think split horizon can be used in this
 situation, even though it's a bit different and the horizons aren't quite
 the same.

 Priscilla

 (wishing she was looking over the Hawaiian horizon about now. ;-)



 Tony M.
 (Split personnality)
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Larrieu
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:13 PM
 Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
 
 
   I thought I was fairly careful in stating that with iBGP
split-horizon,
 an
   iBGP router will not advertise a route to the same AS from which it
 receives
   the route. This covers the interface issue.
  
   Chuck
   whose mama didn't raise no fool, and whose lawyer wife has taught him
the
   hard way about wording things ;-
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Ole Drews Jensen
   Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:52 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
  
  
   Chuck, I think there's a difference here. Split Horizon as you say,
does
 not
   advertise a route back out the interface that it received it on, but
the
   iBGP does not only not propagate a route learned from other iBGP out
the
   receiving interface, but it does not propagate it out any interfaces
 unless
   it has been setup as a cluster server.
  
   If you would name this, it would probably be something like iBGP
 horizon
   :-)
  
   Just my 0010 cents.
  
   Ole
  
   ~~~
Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ~~~
http://www.RouterChief.com
   ~~~
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http://www.oledrews.com/job
   ~~~
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:29 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: A new networking term - thoughts? [7:16668]
  
  
   As a result of an off-list conversation, I came across the following
   networking term:
  
   iBGP split horizon
  
   my first reaction was a sarcastic remark about never having come
across
 the
   term in the RFC's. but then I got to thinking about it, and I now see
 this
   as a descriptive and quite useful term.
  
   recall that distance vector protocols are subject to the rule of split
   horizon. they do not advertise a route back out the interface that
they
   received that particular route.
  
   one of the gotchas of iBGP is the fact that iBGP routers do not
propagate
   routes learned from one iBGP neighbor to other iBGP neighbors. hence
the
   requirement for iBGP full mesh.
  
   so why not call this iBGP split horizon? and define it as follows: an
 iBGP
   router will not advertise a route back out the same AS from which it
 learned
   the route?
  
   does this make sense? worth letting this one join the lexicon of
 networking
   terminology?
  
   Chuck
 

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RE: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Here's how I like to deal with questions like this:

Will knowing the answer ever help you troubleshoot a problem?


Oh, geez, I know what I've been doing wrong - I've been calling it a *port*
when it's really an *interface*!!  I'll have it up in a few seconds, sorry
about that

;-)



-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]


What would you consider interface s0.100 to be? Seems pretty logical to me. 

I think you'll find that both the terms interface and port have context
sensitive meanings.  If you've ever configured a 3Com netbuilder you'll be
even more convinced of this.  I missed the rest of the thread, but I don't
see how using a term one way or another makes one a dork even though I
believe strongly in technical accuracy.  Nor do I see how inferring that
people are spineless dorks contributes positively to the learning process.

Pete


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote:

an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface.
a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count.
i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like.

Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it
wrong, and dont be afraid to tell people to speak correctly!

c3660#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
c3660(config)#port fastethernet 0/0
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

c3660(config)#interface fastethernet 0/0
c3660(config-if)#^Z
c3660#SEE!?
% Unrecognized command
c3660#SEE!
-humboldt




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Input errors and aborts... [7:16873]

2001-08-22 Thread Marshal Schoener

I know some people have been getting upset about putting 'real world'
problems on the list, so I apologize in advance to those people :)

To make a long story short, I have 2 locations on the same NT domain...
Both locations are connected by a T1 and 1600 routers.  
Everything was fine, until Friday when there was a power outage.
Now, people in the remote location have a hard time logging into the domain,
retrieving email, and getting resources from the main office with the
servers...
It isn't a constant problem, but more intermittent.  The users can sometimes
logon and get their email, but they can not connect to mapped drives in the
other location at all.
It is a point-to-point link using HDLC encapsulation.  
Everything seems fine on the router, except that the remote router has a lot
of new 'Input errors' and 'aborts'...
In fact, the exact same amount of each...  If I clear the counters, these
errors build up rather quickly.

Any opinions on what this can be?  Perhaps a local provider issue, or a
hardware issue?
  Thanks a million in advance...
 
PS.  This is actually a topic on the support exam for CCNP, so it should be
useful for everyone :-)




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