RE: Bandwidth was: RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
I can see the recruiters' ads now... Wanted: Network Engineer to work in tropical paradise. Requires OSPF, EIGRP, MPLS, BGP, and crocodile wrestling. Benefits include health plan, life insurance, and Rambo survival knife. http://www.dantesknife.com/combat.htm I'm up way too late. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:26 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Subject: RE: Bandwidth was: RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] I haven't been to any of those particular spots myself, but I don't think any of them have a reputation for paradise. If they were, we wouldn't need an office there :-( But for some of our remote sites, I'm told that the crocodiles are the price you pay for living in paradise - lovely beach, but don't get out of your four wheel drive... Excuse me while I go back to gazing out the window at the sunshine... ;-) JMcL Chuck Larrieu To: Cisco Mail List , dsl.com cc: Subject: RE: Bandwidth was: RE: MAC address 25/10/2001 and VLANs [7:23950] 01:12 pm eat your heart out ;- the price you pay for living in paradise... Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bandwidth was: RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] Hmmph. Glad you can afford DS3 links everywhere. I'll bet there's not a single carrier that would offer DS3 to Nhulunbuy, Thursday Island, or Charleville... at least not for a cost less than the GDP of a reasonably sized country... JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 25/10/2001 10:40 am - Chuck Larrieu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] Sent by: nobody@groups tudy.com 25/10/2001 09:52 am Please respond to Chuck Larrieu hooray for you, PO! you are absolutely correct. In military science, it is well known that military establishments enter any war prepared to fight the previous one. In these days of DSL to the home desktop, 100 megabit to the office desktop, ATM backbone WANS, and HTML based applications, we networking students study various means of eking out another packet or two on 56K links. Anyone here see the point of ISDN backup for DS3 links? ;- Your forward thinking is commendable. Chuck [lots of good stuff snipped] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24083t=23950 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NM-8AM and E1 HELP !! [7:24078]
Thank you Sasa for your interest, let me make it clear this is actually 2 problem. 1 for AM question anothor for E1 question. I wonder if you can give me a sample configuration and a little bit explanation please. Thanks again! ^-^ Hato From: Sasa Milic Reply-To: Sasa Milic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NM-8AM and E1 HELP !! [7:24078] Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:08:10 -0400 Juli, I don't think that analog modems can pick the call coming through E1 port. How is port configured ? Send configs, I've done E1/R2, E1/PRI, and 8AM (but connected to analog phone lines). Sasa Juli Hato wrote: Halo E1 and AM(Analog Modem) gurus, I'm currently working on Analog modem and Ei port VOIP configuration. For the AM I can't make the modem pick the phone. For E1 port it seem to be the same problem. Any sample configuration to give or tips to make it clear. Thanks Best Regards, Hato _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24084t=24078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24085t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTE-DTE - PPP / HDLC Encap [7:24086]
hi i want to test the connection between two serial interfaces of a router back to back, without modems. i want the sample configuration from you friends, in testing this. Regards K. Sadagopan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24086t=24086 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Routing [7:23913]
I depends on how experienced you are in the exam topics. For me it was a bear. The examcram routing book is not good for this exam. The cisco press books are both good. And do not forget to read Routing TCP/IP by Doyle for routing theory, EIGRP and OSPF. And Internet routing architectures by Halabi for BGP. They are on the suggested reading list for CCIE so if you are going to take the CCIE track you can use them for that too. Regards Jon Gudmundsson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23. oktsber 2001 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP Routing [7:23913] Okay I've heard that the CCNP Routing exam 640-503 is a bear. I passed the Switching and BCRAN already, but I hear this one is the toughest. I've been using the ExamCram books and Boson's for the other two. Is there anything else I should be studying to nail this exam? Thanks, jd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24087t=23913 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Silver partnership status [7:24088]
Firstly, my apologies for posting OT on this list, but my company is considering upgrading Cisco Partner status from Premier to Silver. Besides the benefits list by Cisco on CCO, are there any other real benefits ie purchase discounts, better sales leads, marketing etc. that anybody has experience of or is aware of?We sell a fair amount of Cisco kit and as such get good treatment from our Cisco account manager. Will this be any worse when becoming Silver Partners? I am in particular thinking about the number of clients per account manager.Any information would be highly appreciated.. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24088t=24088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24089t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
I'm curious... how bad do the collisions look? With so many hubs, I would think that would consume more bandwidth than the broadcasts. Ken Carroll Kong 10/24/01 11:34PM [snip] Well, I admit, my response was a bit clouded by the fact that one of our clients recently requested a redesign of their flat beyond flat network. Call it justification! They are using, UGH, 10BaseT Hubs with some nasTY (with an iintentional capital T and Y), daisy chaining hub action, which REALLY exacerbated performance loss.Not to mention it's all Bay GEAR! Evil! :) Admittedly, that IS changing the premise of Priscilla's original statement. The network I am working on is HARDLY the epitome of the modern day model system Priscilla described. I am guessing with solid switches across the board, it might very well be pretty darn good in terms of performance. I was just curious where the new practical bar was raised to. If the situation is with 10BaseT hubs, I would not be surprised if performance is really becoming an issue where broadcasts become a percentage of your daily bandwidth. Where broadcasts are probably far more often being that even unicast packets are broadcasted on the wonderous layer 1 repeater technology known as hubs. With all switches, I am not too sure I can say clearly otherwise, but I was just wondering how far is a practical limit in today's modern systems? On top of that, yes, all in moderation. If we take either approach to the extreme, we clearly see significant flaws. No one wants to run subnets of 2 usable hosts each for their entire network and smash their catalyst 6509 with routing modules to oblivion. No one wants to run the 30,000 flat network from HecK. (Ok, maybe some people do...) Look Ma, no routers! On the side, you just noticed your statement impies that some would run multiple VLANs with a single subnet? I guess you would depend on having at least one port on both VLANs to get interconnectivity? Would that be like bridging? (unifying two layer 2 networks). Her statements on the windows protocol seem correct. Ugh, I got to whip out the old sniffer again. Or read up again. I could have sworn I STILL saw a multitude of crap flying every second on my old college network even after we went to a switch. I should try again since her points seem quite valid. Hm. Although broadcasting was necessary, in the more extreme case, does it make sense for a quote server to broadcast to another quote server? There is a small subsegment of don't cares for the quotes, it seems like multicast is more ideal, but probably not necessary. No matter, I am sure the demigods of broadcast control had a working solution. :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24090t=23950 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ipx routing [7:24091]
All, I'm trying to make sure that when I run IPX routing I can identify the router by using the ipx routing 2.2.2 where the router is router 2. I cannot get this to work correctly as it always picks the ethernet mac address instead of 2.2.2 Many thanks Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24091t=24091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
Caroll, I just love the little jokes and grunts you throw into your messages. Makes reading technical stuff fun to read when you can just picture the person writing it going UGH in the middle of a paragraph. Thanks for making the reading fun *grin* Tim -Original Message- From: Carroll Kong [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] At 08:32 PM 10/24/01 -0700, Chuck Larrieu wrote: interesting points, and well taken. if one takes VLANs to be synonymous with subnets then sure. your 10.0.0.0/16 thought reminds me of the good old days when the Xylan marketing team was out hawking their flatten the network religion. In this respect I am a traditionalist - route where you can, and bridge where you must. yeah, I keep forgetting that Windows does some broadcasting, but recall that I come out of the brokerage industry, where broadcast was a necessity. How else would quote machines work? Upwards of 80-90% of our LAN traffic during market hours was broadcast. So how much broadcast traffic can a couple hundred windoze boxes really create, and just how badly does that really effect network performance? Particularly if you are running a fully switched environment, or even in a hubbed environment, assuming 12-24 port hubs? When I was young and foolish, I ran my network on daisy chained 48 port hubs, and I think I got up to around 125 stations and printers before I regretted my foolishness. This was in that self same brokerage firm, with the outrageous broadcast traffic. I know a Major Bank where they at one time ran segments of 700-100 end stations. And survived to a certain degree. ( although they were the masters of broadcast control :- ) As I said, your points are well taken. the application drives most things, but the architecture surely drives others. thanks. Chuck Well, I admit, my response was a bit clouded by the fact that one of our clients recently requested a redesign of their flat beyond flat network. Call it justification! They are using, UGH, 10BaseT Hubs with some nasTY (with an iintentional capital T and Y), daisy chaining hub action, which REALLY exacerbated performance loss.Not to mention it's all Bay GEAR! Evil! :) Admittedly, that IS changing the premise of Priscilla's original statement. The network I am working on is HARDLY the epitome of the modern day model system Priscilla described. I am guessing with solid switches across the board, it might very well be pretty darn good in terms of performance. I was just curious where the new practical bar was raised to. If the situation is with 10BaseT hubs, I would not be surprised if performance is really becoming an issue where broadcasts become a percentage of your daily bandwidth. Where broadcasts are probably far more often being that even unicast packets are broadcasted on the wonderous layer 1 repeater technology known as hubs. With all switches, I am not too sure I can say clearly otherwise, but I was just wondering how far is a practical limit in today's modern systems? On top of that, yes, all in moderation. If we take either approach to the extreme, we clearly see significant flaws. No one wants to run subnets of 2 usable hosts each for their entire network and smash their catalyst 6509 with routing modules to oblivion. No one wants to run the 30,000 flat network from HecK. (Ok, maybe some people do...) Look Ma, no routers! On the side, you just noticed your statement impies that some would run multiple VLANs with a single subnet? I guess you would depend on having at least one port on both VLANs to get interconnectivity? Would that be like bridging? (unifying two layer 2 networks). Her statements on the windows protocol seem correct. Ugh, I got to whip out the old sniffer again. Or read up again. I could have sworn I STILL saw a multitude of crap flying every second on my old college network even after we went to a switch. I should try again since her points seem quite valid. Hm. Although broadcasting was necessary, in the more extreme case, does it make sense for a quote server to broadcast to another quote server? There is a small subsegment of don't cares for the quotes, it seems like multicast is more ideal, but probably not necessary. No matter, I am sure the demigods of broadcast control had a working solution. :) -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24092t=23950 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24093t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AppleTalk address [7:24094]
Is there an free/shareware software that can tell me the name/IP address of the device if I know the AppleTalk address? Or a device that will listen to the network and show me the AppleTalk address, IP address, name of the device. I am on a PC but will use a mac or linux. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24094t=24094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24095t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Catalsyt 6500 flash slot0: two MSFC's(FlexWan) [7:24082]
First if you want automatic redundancy of the flexwan you need to either configure config-sync or SRM, (single router mode). Ohterwise only the active MSFC will recognize the flexwan and if you loose the active MSFC you will have to manually configure the WAN port of the flexwan on the newly active MSFC. To get an MSFC to boot off of the slot0 you add to the MSFC, boot system flash sup-slot0:filename, leave the boot image on the MSFC though if you insist see the bootldr variable. If you do set up config-sync then yes you only need to configure the active MSFC and once you do a write mem the inactive MSFC will be updated. Dave Washington Rico wrote: Cisco people first I would like to thank each and everyone of you for your input. Now the Question, I have a Catalsyt 6500 with dual Supervisor Engines/MFSC's. I plan to upgrade my MSFC's to version 121-3a.E4.bin to support Flexwan Services in the chassic. Please note there are two types of MSFC's (Msfc1 and Msfc2) The below statement refers only to MSFC1, but I have 2 that are in the same chassie running HSRP. * Below Statement** When upgrading a MSFC1, I plan to have it boot from slot0: of the supervisor engine. What I want to know is that I added the boot image and ios image to slot0: will the other MSFC (MSFC2) migrate to this change as well or will I have to manually apply the same thing to MFSC2 as I did with MSFC1 to adapt this change? Apprecaite any help... _ $B$+$o(B $B;H$($k%V%i%%6$G!%$%s%?! http://explorer.msn.co.jp/ -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24097t=24082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Reverse pins 1-2 with 4-5 on your Cat5 cable and off you go. Search cisco's site for T1 crossover and you find more... -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- Gibb, Jake wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24098t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
If you have the tools, you can make a T1 crossover cable pretty easily: http://www2.adtran.com/support/technotes/t1ddsadptxvr/ Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24100t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099]
I want to thank everyone on this list for the valuable contributions. I don't participate much, but I do read all the posts and have learned alot. And I hope to keep doing so. As I do not feel I am anywhere near ready to tackle the LAB, I am going to focus on learning MCSE Windows 2K to enhance my server knowledge. And I also want to focus my studies on learning the PIX and security in general. Thanks to all! And I wish everyone luck in their individual endeavors. Heather Buri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24099t=24099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
That's great! Thanks! -Jake -Original Message- From: Chris Theiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:17 AM To: Gibb, Jake Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] If you have the tools, you can make a T1 crossover cable pretty easily: http://www2.adtran.com/support/technotes/t1ddsadptxvr/ Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24101t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Yes. Pins 1,2 4,5 on one RJ45 end. Then on the other take pin 4 to 1 and 5 to 2. Remember one 1600 will need to be set for internal timing and the other for external. -Original Message- From: Gibb, Jake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24103t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Yes, these cables have different pinouts. Take a look at the following link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/pinouts/ If that link doesn't get filtered by the list filters then you'll be able to see the differences. As far as connecting two routers using two V.35 cables, if one is male and the other is female then you probably have a DCE and a DTE cable. The router that you connect the DCE cable to will have to be configured to provide clocking. You cannot configure a clockrate on the DTE side. I don't know how familiar you are with ethernet cabling but you can relate this to straight-thru and crossover ethernet cables. When you directly connect two PCs or routers without a hub or switch then you have to use a crossover cable. The transmit side of one device has to match up with the receive side on the other and vice versa. This is why there are DCE and DTE versions of serial cables. If you're connecting two routers directly together you must use a crossover serial cable so that the transmit and receive pins all match up correctly. HTH, John Sam Deckert 10/25/01 7:21:13 AM Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24102t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ipx routing [7:24091]
What version of IOS are you using? This sounds like a feature to me. John Richard Botham 10/25/01 6:22:36 AM All, I'm trying to make sure that when I run IPX routing I can identify the router by using the ipx routing 2.2.2 where the router is router 2. I cannot get this to work correctly as it always picks the ethernet mac address instead of 2.2.2 Many thanks Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24104t=24091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Cisco sells DCE and DTE cables and some of the routers are s smart they know if they are conneced to one or the other, i.e. you cant set the clock rate if you have a DTE cable conected: C3640B(config)#inter ser 1/0 C3640B(config-if)#clock rate 154000 %Error: This command applies only to DCE interfaces On the above example are two V.35 cable connected b-b and I attempted to set the clockrate on the DTE. Dave Sam Deckert wrote: Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24105t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SARASOTA studygroup [7:23947]
I did. Thanks anyways David. BTW you live in Sarasota or up in Clearwater-Tampa? cheers David L. Blair wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is hosted by Cisco in their St. Pete office. Call 1-727-540-1481 talk to Domenic. -dlb Francisco deAmorim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... No, by all means let me know who to get in touch with. Any Cisco studygroup is worth checking out. Hmmm, this is CISCO related right? Thanks, Arthur Arthur Simplina wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... There is a Tampa Bay User's Groups that meets once a month at the Cisco - Tampa office which is actually located at St. Pete. Let me know if you are interested so I can give you the email address of the contact persons. Or this is just too far for you to drive. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24106t=23947 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
This was recently beaten to death but... 56K T1 1 - 71 - 4 2 - 82 - 5 7 - 14 - 1 8 - 25 - 2 Dave Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24107t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame Relay queue question [7:24108]
Several questions as below. I thought I was not too bad on Frame Relay with
Ciscos but this one has me stumped. I cannot find documentation in depth
enough to answer my question. We have this problem whether we're adaptive
shaping
or not. IOS is 12.0(9) but we've a second box running 12.1(11) which is
configured identically which is giving us similar outputs (it's not loaded
much
at the moment and the boss starts pulling faces if I talk about shifting
production traffic in order to 'see what happens')
Curreny map settings
map-class frame-relay giving-me-no-end-of-grief
frame-relay mincir 1024000
frame-relay traffic-rate 1024000 1536000
no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
A. We're dropping packets from the queue shown at the bottom of the output
from 'sh frame-r pvc x' Firstly what is this queue ?. Secondly can I increase
it's size ?. Thirdly what are the possible causes for it dropping ?
B. Byte increment = (mincir x (interval(ms)/1000))/8
but what the hell is limit ? I would've thought it would be
('peak'*interval(ms))/1000 but a quick abacus session disproves that theory.
That gives me
96768
MUCRTO01sh frame-r pvc 95
PVC Statistics for interface Serial1/0 (Frame Relay DTE)
DLCI = 95, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE = Serial1/0.5
input pkts 115338output pkts 171048 in bytes 17357017
out bytes 76515575 dropped pkts 4284in FECN pkts 54
in BECN pkts 120 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0
in DE pkts 670 out DE pkts 0
out bcast pkts 97 out bcast bytes 12652
pvc create time 1w6d, last time pvc status changed 1w4d
cir 1024000 bc 1024000 be 512000limit 72000 interval 63
mincir 1024000 byte increment 8000 Adaptive Shaping none
pkts 333488bytes 149606030 pkts delayed 166744bytes delayed
74803015
shaping active
Serial1/0.5 dlci 95 is first come first serve default queueing
Output queue 36/40, 4284 drop, 924406 dequeued
MUCRTO01sh int s1/0
Serial1/0 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is cxBus Serial
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 3838 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, load 78/255
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set, keepalive set (10
sec)
LMI enq sent 74, LMI stat recvd 74, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0
LMI DLCI 0 LMI type is ANSI Annex D frame relay DTE
FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 1515/0, interface broadcasts
1383
Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
Last clearing of show interface counters 00:12:20
Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
Queueing strategy: weighted fair
Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
Conversations 0/60/256 (active/max active/max total)
Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
5 minute input rate 409000 bits/sec, 236 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 1178000 bits/sec, 301 packets/sec
181273 packets input, 41743510 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
225224 packets output, 102245402 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
0 carrier transitions
RTS up, CTS up, DTR up, DCD up, DSR up
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Re: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099]
Congratulations!! Way to go! Good luck on your new studies... John Buri, Heather L. 10/25/01 8:14:08 AM I want to thank everyone on this list for the valuable contributions. I don't participate much, but I do read all the posts and have learned alot. And I hope to keep doing so. As I do not feel I am anywhere near ready to tackle the LAB, I am going to focus on learning MCSE Windows 2K to enhance my server knowledge. And I also want to focus my studies on learning the PIX and security in general. Thanks to all! And I wish everyone luck in their individual endeavors. Heather Buri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24109t=24099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Jake, The following URL in CCO has the T1 cable pinouts: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/6700/iad1101/cable. htm#xtocid296714 This URL has the T1 back-to-back cable pinouts: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/75.html T1 Port (RJ-48) Pinouts Pin Description Router A Router B -- 1 RX Tip 4 2 RX Ring5 3 -- 3 4 TX Tip 1 5 TX Ring2 6 -- 6 7 -- 7 8 -- 8 Keep in mind that for this WIC-T1 back-to-back connection to work you need to configure internal clocking one of the routers. Something like this: ! controller T1 1/0 framing esf clock source internal linecode b8zs channel-group 1 timeslots all ! Hth, Angel Leiva - MCSE, CCNA, CCNP-WAN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gibb, Jake Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24110t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Welcome. I use the db60-db60 in my home lab to connect my 2500's. Check on ebay, they go for about 20 bucks. Check out the following link for pinouts, you can make your own but the pins are darn small (take my word on it) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/pinouts/ Watch the wrap, if any. with the v.35 cables, one end would be dce and the other dte. Just be carefull which end is which. db60--V.35 | V.35 db60 | | | | DTE DCE DCE DTE If that's what your refereing to then I don't think it'll work due to both far ends being DTE's. Lemme know if you have any more questions. I had to discover this stuff out the hardware way so maybe I can advise a little more. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:23 AM To: Ouellette, Tim Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24096t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ipx routing [7:24091]
when you have enabled IPX routing using the ipx routing x.x.x command, the x.x.x MAC will be applied only to serial and loopback ports. that allows you to ipx ping those ports using the network.MAC address. ethernet and fast ethernet ports all have burned in addresses ( bia ) for obvious reason. HTH Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ipx routing [7:24091] All, I'm trying to make sure that when I run IPX routing I can identify the router by using the ipx routing 2.2.2 where the router is router 2. I cannot get this to work correctly as it always picks the ethernet mac address instead of 2.2.2 Many thanks Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24111t=24091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099]
Congratulations Heather, MCSE for W2K is a journey of 7 exams, unless you can take the accelerated exam which not many people pass. If you really want to go that way, I would wait just a couple of days and look at XP and Server.NET instead. I know that MS just changed their certification plans, and MCSE (etc) for NT 4.0 will now keep their cert. after 12/31/1 but I don't know what their future plans are regarding MCSE for W2K and XL/Server.NET My suggestion to you would be to read about IS-IS while you still have your BSCN in memory, and run down and take the BSCI exam. Then start the CSS1 and take the MCNS. After those two exams, you will only be one exam away from CCIP and three exams away from CSS1. Take care, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Buri, Heather L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099] I want to thank everyone on this list for the valuable contributions. I don't participate much, but I do read all the posts and have learned alot. And I hope to keep doing so. As I do not feel I am anywhere near ready to tackle the LAB, I am going to focus on learning MCSE Windows 2K to enhance my server knowledge. And I also want to focus my studies on learning the PIX and security in general. Thanks to all! And I wish everyone luck in their individual endeavors. Heather Buri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24113t=24099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
that started with the 12.x releases, I believe. in 11.x one could enter the clockrate on a DTE interface, but the command would not show up in the running config. Later, if one were to plug a DCE cable into that interface, the clock rate command magically appeared! Cisco seems to be taking the real fun out of the IOS with the 12.x releases.. :- Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24112t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Assuming that your WIC's has build-in CSU/DSU and therefore the jack is RJ45, if you're used to doing CAT5 cabling, you can remember this by the colors too: 56K Crossover: Use Orange and Brown wires and cross them at the other end. T1 Crossover: Use Orange and Blue wires and cross them at the other end. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] This was recently beaten to death but... 56K T1 1 - 71 - 4 2 - 82 - 5 7 - 14 - 1 8 - 25 - 2 Dave Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24114t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ipx routing [7:24091]
C3640B#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. C3640B(config)#ipx routing ? H.H.H IPX address of this router Dave John Neiberger wrote: What version of IOS are you using? This sounds like a feature to me. John Richard Botham 10/25/01 6:22:36 AM All, I'm trying to make sure that when I run IPX routing I can identify the router by using the ipx routing 2.2.2 where the router is router 2. I cannot get this to work correctly as it always picks the ethernet mac address instead of 2.2.2 Many thanks Richard -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24115t=24091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Certification Exam Pricing Update [7:24116]
Many of you have seen this, but for those of you who have not = Dear Jonathan Hays, Beat the price change. Register for a Cisco certification exams by October 31, 2001 and pay the current price. Effective November 1, 2001, the price for all exams, which begin with #640-XXX and #9E0-XXX, will be US$125 in the United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico. The price for the Foundation exam, #640-509 will be US$250. These changes are only in the USA, Canada, and Puerto Rico. At this time, no other regions will be affected. The price for other exams, including the CCIE qualifying exams and CCIE recertification exams, will also not be affected at this time. Beginning October 25, use the Certifications Online Support site, at http://www.cisco.com/go/certsupport to assist in answering any questions you may have. To register for an exam, please contact one of the authorized Cisco testing vendors, Prometric at http://www.2test.com/cisco or VUE at http://www.vue.com/cisco. The new exam pricing will allow Cisco to continue to invest in the quality, integrity, and growth of the Cisco Career Certifications and Channel Partner programs for network professionals. For more information on Cisco Career Certifications and training visit http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/ecampaign/misc. Get Cisco certified today! * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24116t=24116 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Another handy dandy command to see whats connected is: 3660A#sh controller ser 3/3 M4T: show controller: PAS unit 3, subunit 3, f/w version 1-45, rev ID 0x281, version 2 idb = 0x621ECF4C, ds = 0x621EEC04, ssb=0x621EEEDC Clock mux=0x0, ucmd_ctrl=0x0, port_status=0xC Serial config=0x8, line config=0x200 maxdgram=1608, bufpool=48Kb, 31 particles DCD=down DSR=down DTR=down RTS=down CTS=down line state: down cable type : V.35 DCE cable, received clockrate 246 base0 registers=0x3D80, base1 registers=0x3D802000 mxt_ds=0x62638504, rx ring entries=40, tx ring entries=128 rxring=0x56ABB80, rxr shadow=0x621F4C88, rx_head=0 txring=0x56ABD00, txr shadow=0x621F4E94, tx_head=0, tx_tail=0, tx_count=0 throttled=0, enabled=0 rx_no_eop_err=0, rx_no_stp_err=0, rx_no_eop_stp_err=0 rx_no_buf=0, rx_soft_overrun_err=0, dump_err= 0, bogus=0, mxt_flags=0x20 tx_underrun_err=0, tx_soft_underrun_err=0, tx_limited=1(2) tx_fullring=0, tx_started=0 I have a DCE on this interface. Dave Chuck Larrieu wrote: that started with the 12.x releases, I believe. in 11.x one could enter the clockrate on a DTE interface, but the command would not show up in the running config. Later, if one were to plug a DCE cable into that interface, the clock rate command magically appeared! Cisco seems to be taking the real fun out of the IOS with the 12.x releases.. :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MADMAN Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Cisco sells DCE and DTE cables and some of the routers are s smart they know if they are conneced to one or the other, i.e. you cant set the clock rate if you have a DTE cable conected: C3640B(config)#inter ser 1/0 C3640B(config-if)#clock rate 154000 %Error: This command applies only to DCE interfaces On the above example are two V.35 cable connected b-b and I attempted to set the clockrate on the DTE. Dave Sam Deckert wrote: Thanks Tim, that was great! So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? Thanks for your help! Sam. - Original Message - From: Ouellette, Tim To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: RE: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Sam, the whole DTE/DCE thing is related directly to where the clocking comes from. In a typical wan, the clocking to your router's serial port comes from an external CSU/DSU that your carrier may provide. Therefor, the carried is the DCE and your router is the DTE. In a home environment, if you have your routers connected via a db60-db60 cable, one of those routers needs to supply the clock rate. Check your cable because one end is probably labelled as DCE and the other DTE. If it's not, trying using the show controller serial x and that should tell you the type that is plugged into it. On the DCE side of that connected link, you need to use the clock rate command to supply clocking to the other side. I don't think there is a DTE cable I believe it's more of you order the proper pin size (db60 on 2500's and db60 or db50 on the 4000's) for each side. Hope that helps. Tim -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] Hello, Could someone kindly explain the whole DTE / DCE thing in relation to setting up a home lab and using routers back to back? I believe that DTE is male and DCE female, but what are the other differences? When connecting a router to a CSU/DSU, would you always order a DTE cable? Thanks for any help anyone can provide! -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24118t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Looking for token ring MAU Sydney [7:24120]
Hello Group, Sorry for the OT message. Just wanted to know if there's anyone in Sydney looking to get rid of token ring equipment at a reasonable price. I'm looking for a couple of MAUs with 4 cables, a couple of Token Ring PC cards, and maybe a PCMCIA Token Ring card. Basically, I need something for my 2x2502 so I can hook up a PC at one end and another at the other to do some bridging, DLSW scenarios. Thanks Albert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24120t=24120 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
Not only VLAN helped solving broadcast problem, but also helped unicast problem. I used to run into problem with some UDP application on a pretty large flat network. When some 100M/full-duplex start talking, 10M workstations were freeze. Sniffer showed me that caused by a unicast storm. Eventually, I learned that if a unicast is sent while switch didn't have or forgot its destination's MAC, it flood. No 100M workstation been affected, but all 10's died. couple second later, it calmed down. (switches started to know where the destination's MAC). However, it happened again and again. VLAN helps first to restrict problem in ONE VLAN, second prevent the switches don't have the VLAN from being affected. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: The multi-VLAN feature that Leigh Anne mentioned might solve your problem. The Cisco switch port could be associated with two VLANs that way. You didn't say which switch you have, and this feature may not be available on all Cisco switches, though. Assuming that you don't want to upgrade the little switch to one that does 802.1Q or ISL, another somewhat radical fix to the problem might be to not use VLANs. My philosophy is that once VLANs get to the point of causing more problems then they fix, I eliminate them. ;-) One of the main things VLANs were supposed to fix was excessive broadcasts causing too many CPU interruptions on numerous workstations in a large, flat, switched network. Lately I have taken to making the controversial statement that this problem doesn't exist on many modern networks. These days workstations have amazingly fast CPUs. They are not bogged down by processing broadcasts. Also, as we eliminate older desktop protocols such as AppleTalk and IPX, what is still sending broadcasts? An ARP here or there is not a big problem. And ARPs don't actually happen that often. A PC keeps the data-link-layer address of its default gateway and other communication partners for a long time. Also, a lot of PC NICs used to be stupid about multicasts and interrupt the CPU for irrelevant multicasts for which the PC was not registered to listen. I bet that bug has been fixed by now. VLANs have other benefits (security, dividing up management and administrative domains, etc.) But if broadcasts are the issue, one should ask: Which protocol send broadcasts and how often? How fast are the CPUs? And that is my latest harangue against my least favorite LAN technology (VLANs!) Priscilla At 09:52 AM 10/24/01, NetEng wrote: Thanks for the replies. The two MAC addresses would come from the two PC's in an office. The would both connect in to a hub and then the hub would uplink to the cisco switch. I need one pc in VLAN1 and one pc in VLAN2, from what you and Dennis stated this will not work. I appreciate the comments though. Collin Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually, that's not correct. The original specification for VLANs from what I understand mandates that only one VLAN can be assigned to a port, but manufacturers such as 3COM decided to do otherwise and support multiple VLANs per port. Cisco responded by creating (on certain switches such as the Catalyst 2900XL) an administrator to configure a port to be a member of more than one VLAN at a time when using a membership mode known as Multi-VLAN. A Multi-VLAN port can belong to up to 250 VLANs; the actual number of VLANs to which the port can belong depends on the capability of the switch itself. Although the concept is similar, this membership mode is different than trunking. The caveat to this feature is that the Multi-VLAN membership mode cannot be configured on a switch if one or more ports on the switch have been configured to trunk. For more information on this feature, search Cisco's website using the keyword phrase switchport multi. As for answering NetEng's question--I can't quite determine where multiple MAC addresses share the same switch port. Could you identify which switch that is? -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] Cisco will recognize multiple macs on a single port but they must all be in the same vlan. Vlan assignment is per port. Your other option would be to replace the non cisco hub with a cisco switch which is trunked to the main switch. -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- NetEng wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here's my situtation. I have a corporate PC with an IP address of 10.10.x.x and in the same office (and same physical network) another device with an IP address of 192.168.100.x Both devices are
IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122]
I have heard that they have some IP Security on the CCIE Routing and Switching Lab. Does anyone know if this is true or not? It dosen't show it listed on the Cisco web site, but I'd like to know for sure. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24122t=24122 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
I couldn't agree more on this issue, Jeff. Norton's Ghost is Notorius for hogging much of the backplane bandwidth on CAT5500s during a unicast TCP session. John Squeo Technical Specialist Papa John's Corporation (502) 261-4035 jeffrey wang cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950] nobody@groupst udy.com 10/25/01 12:08 PM Please respond to jeffrey wang Not only VLAN helped solving broadcast problem, but also helped unicast problem. I used to run into problem with some UDP application on a pretty large flat network. When some 100M/full-duplex start talking, 10M workstations were freeze. Sniffer showed me that caused by a unicast storm. Eventually, I learned that if a unicast is sent while switch didn't have or forgot its destination's MAC, it flood. No 100M workstation been affected, but all 10's died. couple second later, it calmed down. (switches started to know where the destination's MAC). However, it happened again and again. VLAN helps first to restrict problem in ONE VLAN, second prevent the switches don't have the VLAN from being affected. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: The multi-VLAN feature that Leigh Anne mentioned might solve your problem. The Cisco switch port could be associated with two VLANs that way. You didn't say which switch you have, and this feature may not be available on all Cisco switches, though. Assuming that you don't want to upgrade the little switch to one that does 802.1Q or ISL, another somewhat radical fix to the problem might be to not use VLANs. My philosophy is that once VLANs get to the point of causing more problems then they fix, I eliminate them. ;-) One of the main things VLANs were supposed to fix was excessive broadcasts causing too many CPU interruptions on numerous workstations in a large, flat, switched network. Lately I have taken to making the controversial statement that this problem doesn't exist on many modern networks. These days workstations have amazingly fast CPUs. They are not bogged down by processing broadcasts. Also, as we eliminate older desktop protocols such as AppleTalk and IPX, what is still sending broadcasts? An ARP here or there is not a big problem. And ARPs don't actually happen that often. A PC keeps the data-link-layer address of its default gateway and other communication partners for a long time. Also, a lot of PC NICs used to be stupid about multicasts and interrupt the CPU for irrelevant multicasts for which the PC was not registered to listen. I bet that bug has been fixed by now. VLANs have other benefits (security, dividing up management and administrative domains, etc.) But if broadcasts are the issue, one should ask: Which protocol send broadcasts and how often? How fast are the CPUs? And that is my latest harangue against my least favorite LAN technology (VLANs!) Priscilla At 09:52 AM 10/24/01, NetEng wrote: Thanks for the replies. The two MAC addresses would come from the two PC's in an office. The would both connect in to a hub and then the hub would uplink to the cisco switch. I need one pc in VLAN1 and one pc in VLAN2, from what you and Dennis stated this will not work. I appreciate the comments though. Collin Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually, that's not correct. The original specification for VLANs from what I understand mandates that only one VLAN can be assigned to a port, but manufacturers such as 3COM decided to do otherwise and support multiple VLANs per port. Cisco responded by creating (on certain switches such as the Catalyst 2900XL) an administrator to configure a port to be a member of more than one VLAN at a time when using a membership mode known as Multi-VLAN. A Multi-VLAN port can belong to up to 250 VLANs; the actual number of VLANs to which the port can belong depends on the capability of the switch itself. Although the concept is similar, this membership mode is different than trunking. The caveat to this feature is that the Multi-VLAN membership mode cannot be configured on a switch if one or more ports on the switch have been configured to trunk. For more information on this
RE: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099]
Ok. I just want to clarify something since a couple of people have emailed me off list asking how I think an MCSE is going to help me attain my CCIE. :-) The short answer is, I don't expect it to help me attain the CCIE. My thought processes on this were varied. Mainly, I know I am nowhere near ready to attempt the lab. So why spend $1250 when I know I am not ready? I did not mean to imply that I am going to stop with Cisco. Quite the contrary. I have a home lab which I intend to continue working on. I also have my job which requires me to keep up with Cisco. But in my job, what I tend to find is there are the server people who know the server end really well. And there are the Network people who know the Infrastructure and the routing equipment really well. But there are not too many people who can troubleshoot from end-to-end. I want to be one of those people. There are also a lot of companies which are migrating to W2K, including the company I am at right now. We have had a lot of issues with this. (Which, of course, keeps getting blamed on the switches!) :-) But that is another story. On another note, I wanted to plug some great resources I found for learning to analyze traffic with a Sniffer. I don't have any vested interest in these books. However, since I have been searching for quite some time for some good reference material for learning sniffer and have had a hard time finding any, I was quite happy when I found these. They are published by http://www.podbooks.com and are written by Laura Chappell. I have the TCP/IP Analysis and Troubleshooting which I bought from Amazon.com for $66. However, I have since found that podbooks sells the set of 4 directly on it's website for $99. So I am probably going to purchase those and slap this one on Ebay. :-) They have really been good at explaining how to analyze a packet trace. I already knew how to do a basic capture, but analysis was another story. I just thought I would mention these in case anyone else out there was in a situation like mine. Stuck in a job that won't pay for training, but wanting to learn packet capture analysis. I had not seen these particular books mentioned previously. Heather Buri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24117t=24099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT- maybe... [7:24121]
Hi All, Besides Cisco Works, anyone know of any good Cisco monitoring apps? I am looking to monitor my routers, VPN and switches. Thanks, Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24121t=24121 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
Well, now you're really talking about the dark ages. ;-) You are back to the early 1990s discussion about upgrading hubs to switches. That's a good idea so that each port has 100 Mbps (or 10 Mbps) rather than all ports sharing bandwidth and being in the same collision domain. I can't think of any reason not to upgrade to switches at this point. It's difficult to even buy a 100-Mbps hub any more. (I tried and they sent me a switch!) The upgrade is quite seamless (unlike the upgrade from switches to VLAN-aware switches.) This has nothing to do with the late 1990s question of broadcasts which came about when people started replacing routers with switches and designing a network that was a large broadcast domain. They thought they had solved all their problems but they hadn't because a switch forwards broadcasts, whereas a router does not, of course. VLANs let you divide up those broadcast domains and be smarter about the flooding of unknown unicasts (as someone else mentioned, which was a good point.) But VLANs bring with them all sorts of other management headaches. It's a tradeoff that doesn't need to be made in many modern networks, despite what Cisco tells you. The materials that we read about broadcasts in switched networks come from studies Cisco did in 1994. And some books still have that silly triangle that a Cisco marketing engineer (now that's an oxymoron!) designed in 1994. Yes, I know that VLANs have other advantages (supposedly) besides dividing up broadcast domains, and I warned people up front that my point of view was controversial, but I'm sticking to it. ;-) With regards to your practical limits, Cisco has some guidelines (but once again they are based on OLD data ;-) A broadcast domain shouldn't have more than a few hundred nodes. Also, with regards to your comment about sniffing on a switched network. Remember that all you see is broadcasts and traffic to your port (unless you mirror other ports) so you get a skewed view. So have we beat this one to death yet? I enjoyed the discussion. (I hope we didn't put everyone else to sleep! ;-) Priscilla Well, I admit, my response was a bit clouded by the fact that one of our clients recently requested a redesign of their flat beyond flat network. Call it justification! They are using, UGH, 10BaseT Hubs with some nasTY (with an iintentional capital T and Y), daisy chaining hub action, which REALLY exacerbated performance loss.Not to mention it's all Bay GEAR! Evil! :) Admittedly, that IS changing the premise of Priscilla's original statement. The network I am working on is HARDLY the epitome of the modern day model system Priscilla described. I am guessing with solid switches across the board, it might very well be pretty darn good in terms of performance. I was just curious where the new practical bar was raised to. If the situation is with 10BaseT hubs, I would not be surprised if performance is really becoming an issue where broadcasts become a percentage of your daily bandwidth. Where broadcasts are probably far more often being that even unicast packets are broadcasted on the wonderous layer 1 repeater technology known as hubs. With all switches, I am not too sure I can say clearly otherwise, but I was just wondering how far is a practical limit in today's modern systems? On top of that, yes, all in moderation. If we take either approach to the extreme, we clearly see significant flaws. No one wants to run subnets of 2 usable hosts each for their entire network and smash their catalyst 6509 with routing modules to oblivion. No one wants to run the 30,000 flat network from HecK. (Ok, maybe some people do...) Look Ma, no routers! On the side, you just noticed your statement impies that some would run multiple VLANs with a single subnet? I guess you would depend on having at least one port on both VLANs to get interconnectivity? Would that be like bridging? (unifying two layer 2 networks). Her statements on the windows protocol seem correct. Ugh, I got to whip out the old sniffer again. Or read up again. I could have sworn I STILL saw a multitude of crap flying every second on my old college network even after we went to a switch. I should try again since her points seem quite valid. Hm. Although broadcasting was necessary, in the more extreme case, does it make sense for a quote server to broadcast to another quote server? There is a small subsegment of don't cares for the quotes, it seems like multicast is more ideal, but probably not necessary. No matter, I am sure the demigods of broadcast control had a working solution. :) -Carroll Kong Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24124t=23950 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations
RE: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122]
Here is a quote directly from Cisco website about the CCIE RS Lab: The Routing and Switching Lab exam tests any feature that can be configured on the equipment in the Equipment List After reading that quote you should have your answer. Louie A Belt CCIE #7054 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122] I have heard that they have some IP Security on the CCIE Routing and Switching Lab. Does anyone know if this is true or not? It dosen't show it listed on the Cisco web site, but I'd like to know for sure. Thanks. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24125t=24122 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
Cosmin, I did CCNP first and then decided to do CCDP which requires CCDA. The reason is that any reference to designing networks is positive. I have had many small firms ask me to design networks for them and they always notice the DA and DP. Also by studying the track it enhanced my knowledge. Check www.brainbuzz.net for salary surveys... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24126t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ipx routing [7:24091]
At 08:22 AM 10/25/01, Richard Botham wrote: All, I'm trying to make sure that when I run IPX routing I can identify the router by using the ipx routing 2.2.2 where the router is router 2. I cannot get this to work correctly as it always picks the ethernet mac address instead of 2.2.2 Yes, that's true. The documentation makes it sound like the new 2.2.2 address will be used for all packets sourced by the router, but this isn't so. What the documentation should say (and maybe it does, but maybe not too clearly) is that serial ports don't have a MAC address. By default they will source IPX packets using a Node ID that is from the first LAN interface. If you don't like that, then you can tell the router to use something else (by adding the parameter to ipx routing). I don't have a WAN sniffer, but I can verify that what you are seeing on Ethernet happens on my routers also. I think it's a feature not a bug. ;-) Albany#config t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. Albany(config)#ipx routing 2.2.2 Albany(config)# Albany# Albany# Albany#s run ! hostname Albany ! ipx routing 0002.0002.0002 ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 10.10.0.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 100 no mop enabled ! interface Ethernet1 ip address 172.16.50.1 255.255.255.0 ipx network 200 ! etc ! end Albany# But here's the IPX RIP on Ethernet 0 from the router. It still uses its network number and MAC address, not 2.2.2. 802.3 Header Destination: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF Ethernet Broadcast Source: 00:00:0C:05:3E:80 Length: 48 IPX - NetWare Protocol Checksum: 0x Length: 48 Transport Control: Reserved: % Hop Count:% Packet Type: 1 RIP Destination Network: 0x0100 Destination Node: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF Ethernet Broadcast Destination Socket: 0x0453 Routing Information Protocol Source Network: 0x0100 Source Node: 00:00:0C:05:3E:80 Source Socket:0x0453 Routing Information Protocol RIP - Routing Information Protocol Operation:2 Response Network Number Set # 1 Network Number: 0x0200 Number of Hops: 1 Number of Ticks: 1 Network Number Set # 2 Network Number: 0x0300 Number of Hops: 1 Number of Ticks: 1 FCS - Frame Check Sequence FCS (Calculated): 0x82378EB7 Priscilla Many thanks Richard Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24127t=24091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP database application [7:24128]
Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24128t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE RS [7:24129]
Guys After some more nights of revision and studies and sacrifice and the rest- I have finally passed my written today. Not to be mistaken is the fact that it was even a bit more complex that the first time around, but this time I was prepared for it. My long nights and blood, sweat and tears have paid off well- NOW FOR THE LAB exam, I would like to do it before xmas as I am well prepared and attending a bootcamp for two weeks. Advice ( without violating NDA): Use all the resources that's available on the Cisco website- Books that I used: Caslows second edition- Bridges, routers and switches for CCIEs OSPF and BGP books by Halabi Token Ring white paper by Rossi and, of course, good old EXPERIENCE And then the study group- a BIG thanks to this group, and to the administrators- you're doing a great job 8-) but mostly to God who is my strength and from whom all of my knowledge and understanding and insight comes- I unashamedly admit this. Thanks guys Nigel van Tura Snr Network Systems Consultant Sourcecom Technology Solutions Cape Town, South Africa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24129t=24129 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT today!-sniffer skills [7:24131]
From my experience, there is nothing inherently special about learning how to use a sniffer in itself. You are learning how different protocols work, and the sniffer just lets you see that. Learning a sniffer should just mean, I know which buttons to click to get X, Y, Z kinds of data. Understanding protocols means you can discern what X, Y, Z data is doing and what it means in the big picture. As you can see, one should value the latter, but too many instantly proclaim the former is more important. Not to say you are not doing that, you are doing precisely what you should be doing, really learning tcp/ip. Ironically, if half the people who claimed on their resume TCP/IP Knowledge, you would not need the presupposed claim of Experience with Sniffer Pro. Of course, it does not just have to be TCP/IP, it can go down to many different layers, application, data link, etc. Eh, silly HR will be silly HR. I should write a web page about How to hire the right IT people for dummies. (HR) As for your move to become a jack of all trades, master of none. Back in the day that was the coined term. I strongly disagree with it, and I think people can easily dual-class themselves into excellent multi-versed individuals. (dual class is an add term, you can actually become a jack of all trades, master of many). Too bad you probably will not get paid double, even if you really should. :) As for learning packet capture analysis, pick your favorite protocol of the day, read RFCs on it, practice using it while sniffing yourself (no pun intended), and follow the packets. At 01:03 PM 10/25/01 -0400, Buri, Heather L. wrote: They have really been good at explaining how to analyze a packet trace. I already knew how to do a basic capture, but analysis was another story. I just thought I would mention these in case anyone else out there was in a situation like mine. Stuck in a job that won't pay for training, but wanting to learn packet capture analysis. I had not seen these particular books mentioned previously. Heather Buri -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24131t=24131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP foundation test 640-509 [7:24132]
Does any one know how many questions are on the foundations test. I have looked on the cisco site but have had no luck. Thanks in advance G30RG3 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24132t=24132 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24133]
Hi everybody, I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to configure the router (step by step). Thanks a lot, Stephane Wantou Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24133t=24133 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122]
That quote would help if we knew the IOS feature set they used in the lab. Do they use the ipsec ios feature set on the lab routers. Without breaking the NDA do you recall what IOS set they used. If they dont use the ipsec ios then it really cant be configured on a router so it would not be on the lab test. Just my 2 cents G30RG3 Louie Belt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here is a quote directly from Cisco website about the CCIE RS Lab: The Routing and Switching Lab exam tests any feature that can be configured on the equipment in the Equipment List After reading that quote you should have your answer. Louie A Belt CCIE #7054 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122] I have heard that they have some IP Security on the CCIE Routing and Switching Lab. Does anyone know if this is true or not? It dosen't show it listed on the Cisco web site, but I'd like to know for sure. Thanks. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24134t=24122 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24135]
This should get you started. -Jake -Original Message- From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24133] Hi everybody, I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to configure the router (step by step). Thanks a lot, Stephane Wantou Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24135t=24135 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP database application [7:24128]
wordpad? Sorry, couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: Gibb, Jake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP database application [7:24128] Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24136t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP database application [7:24128]
Tried that. He heh ;) -Original Message- From: Ouellette, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:13 PM To: Gibb, Jake Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: IP database application [7:24128] wordpad? Sorry, couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: Gibb, Jake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP database application [7:24128] Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24137t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home lab Information [7:24140]
Hi everyone, I am preparing for my CCNA and in the process of building a home lab. i have two 2501 routers. Are there any books out there to help. I really need a web site or some ideas. Thanks james e gruggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24140t=24140 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24139]
Sorry... -Jake -Original Message- From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24133] Hi everybody, I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to configure the router (step by step). Thanks a lot, Stephane Wantou Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24139t=24139 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24141]
Since your just starting get a decent emulation program, I like TeraTerm and it's free at www.tucows.com. But if you must, plug you PC into the router, the console should be 9600, 8, none and 1 Dave Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote: Hi everybody, I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to configure the router (step by step). Thanks a lot, Stephane Wantou -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24141t=24141 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24142t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24143]
wow, it sure got me started! Gibb, Jake 10/25/01 02:05PM This should get you started. -Jake -Original Message- From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24133] Hi everybody, I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to configure the router (step by step). Thanks a lot, Stephane Wantou Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24143t=24143 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE job market [7:3639]
Hey I read your Switching book based on all the errors .. I would take my chances on the 3 .. chances are 1 of the 3 might even proof their work !! Rick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24145t=3639 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router [7:24144]
1. Open Hyperterminal, choose an icon and name your session, click next. 2. Select the serial port you are connecting to the router in the Connect Using field, click ok. 3. Click restore defaults in the COM properties box. 4. Hit enter a few times and you should see the router login prompt. This should work. ~-Original Message- ~From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ~Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:50 PM ~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Subject: Configuring hyperterminal to configure a Cisco router ~[7:24133] ~ ~ ~Hi everybody, ~ ~I have a Cisco router and a hyperterminal. Can anybody tell me how to ~configure a hyperterminal on my laptop or PC to be able to ~configure the ~router (step by step). ~ ~Thanks a lot, ~ ~Stephane Wantou ~ ~ ~ ~ ~Report misconduct ~and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24144t=24144 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP database application [7:24128]
QIP, NetID -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gibb, Jake Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP database application [7:24128] Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24146t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
You can do it with an external router if you have an 10/100 blade that supports isl or dot1q trunking. or you gan get an rsm I believe or an nffc. G30RG3 Thomas wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24147t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP database application [7:24128]
Netid works really well --- William Gragido wrote: QIP, NetID -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gibb, Jake Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP database application [7:24128] Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Spencer Plantier Internet Solutions Engineer Cell 919-696-8848 __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24148t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24149t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Well it's not even that simple, there are differant standards defining the pairs, 568A and 568B so your color code might not make sense depending on the standard being used if used at all so I still like my answer :) Dave Ole Drews Jensen wrote: Assuming that your WIC's has build-in CSU/DSU and therefore the jack is RJ45, if you're used to doing CAT5 cabling, you can remember this by the colors too: 56K Crossover: Use Orange and Brown wires and cross them at the other end. T1 Crossover: Use Orange and Blue wires and cross them at the other end. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] This was recently beaten to death but... 56K T1 1 - 71 - 4 2 - 82 - 5 7 - 14 - 1 8 - 25 - 2 Dave Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24150t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Well, as a B guy, I use those colors. 568A is for sissies. :-) Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:57 PM To: Ole Drews Jensen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] Well it's not even that simple, there are differant standards defining the pairs, 568A and 568B so your color code might not make sense depending on the standard being used if used at all so I still like my answer :) Dave Ole Drews Jensen wrote: Assuming that your WIC's has build-in CSU/DSU and therefore the jack is RJ45, if you're used to doing CAT5 cabling, you can remember this by the colors too: 56K Crossover: Use Orange and Brown wires and cross them at the other end. T1 Crossover: Use Orange and Blue wires and cross them at the other end. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] This was recently beaten to death but... 56K T1 1 - 71 - 4 2 - 82 - 5 7 - 14 - 1 8 - 25 - 2 Dave Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24151t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Study Guids [7:24152]
I am working towards the CCNP certification . I have used networkstudyguids.com for my CCNA preparation ( couple of years ago ) . anybody know if they have still a good material content ? Thanks, Mark PS. I am using the Cisco Press books as my main reading material Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24152t=24152 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Layer 3 card for the Cat4003 and Cat4006 is the WS-X4232-L3. List is $14,995. Description below. Catalyst 4000 E/FE/GE L3 Module, 2-GE(GBIC),32-10/100 Tim - Original Message - From: Thomas To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142] Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24153t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Okie, Here is my CAT 4006 specs and topology. My 4006 has a Supervisor Engine II (WS-X4013). It has an uplink TRUNK to a CAT 6509 that has MSFC doing routing between VLANS and has MLS enabled. My question is if I have MLS configured on MSFC of the 6509, the enabling of MLS on CATOS of 4006 via 6509 MSFC as the MLS-RP working? Thanks! Thomas N. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24154t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122]
Referring to even the version of IOS is a strong violation of the NDA. Here is the answer from the CCIE site The Communications and Services lab exam simulates a service provider core network connecting to customer networks. IOS features up to and including version 12.1 will be tested on the exam. The service provider core routers use a service provider IOS image for support for MPLS, MPLS VPNS, traffic engineering, etc. G30RG3 wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That quote would help if we knew the IOS feature set they used in the lab. Do they use the ipsec ios feature set on the lab routers. Without breaking the NDA do you recall what IOS set they used. If they dont use the ipsec ios then it really cant be configured on a router so it would not be on the lab test. Just my 2 cents G30RG3 Louie Belt wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here is a quote directly from Cisco website about the CCIE RS Lab: The Routing and Switching Lab exam tests any feature that can be configured on the equipment in the Equipment List After reading that quote you should have your answer. Louie A Belt CCIE #7054 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP Sec on CCIE RS LAB?? [7:24122] I have heard that they have some IP Security on the CCIE Routing and Switching Lab. Does anyone know if this is true or not? It dosen't show it listed on the Cisco web site, but I'd like to know for sure. Thanks. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24155t=24122 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Study Guids [7:24152]
Invest your money in some examcrams instead if you are going to go that route. Their CCNP stuff wasn't that great IMO. Mark Latis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am working towards the CCNP certification . I have used networkstudyguids.com for my CCNA preparation ( couple of years ago ) . anybody know if they have still a good material content ? Thanks, Mark PS. I am using the Cisco Press books as my main reading material Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24156t=24152 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095]
Just use a regular console cable. That will work!! From: Ole Drews Jensen Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:04:18 -0400 Well, as a B guy, I use those colors. 568A is for sissies. :-) Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:57 PM To: Ole Drews Jensen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] Well it's not even that simple, there are differant standards defining the pairs, 568A and 568B so your color code might not make sense depending on the standard being used if used at all so I still like my answer :) Dave Ole Drews Jensen wrote: Assuming that your WIC's has build-in CSU/DSU and therefore the jack is RJ45, if you're used to doing CAT5 cabling, you can remember this by the colors too: 56K Crossover: Use Orange and Brown wires and cross them at the other end. T1 Crossover: Use Orange and Blue wires and cross them at the other end. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WIC-T1 crossover? [7:24095] This was recently beaten to death but... 56K T1 1 - 71 - 4 2 - 82 - 5 7 - 14 - 1 8 - 25 - 2 Dave Gibb, Jake wrote: Is it possible to take a WIC-T1 card used in a Cisco 1600 and somehow make a crossover cable to connect to another 1600 with a WIC-T1 simulating a serial link (PPP, Frame-Relay, etc.) -Jake -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24157t=24095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Won't do much good for MLS though I question if it's really needed: C4006 (enable) sess 2 Trying IntlgLineCard-2... Connected to IntlgLineCard-2. Escape character is '^]'. User Access Verification Password: C4006L3en Password: Password: C4006L3#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z. C4006L3(config)#mls ? % Unrecognized command C4006L3(config)#mls Dave Tim O'Brien wrote: Layer 3 card for the Cat4003 and Cat4006 is the WS-X4232-L3. List is $14,995. Description below. Catalyst 4000 E/FE/GE L3 Module, 2-GE(GBIC),32-10/100 Tim - Original Message - From: Thomas To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142] Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24158t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Can't say I've tried that. First question, why is MLS sooo important that you feel you must do this?? There are legitimate reasons for MLS but I see to many people turn knob only because they are there:( That aside I don't think you can. On the external devices on which you can do this your terminating the trunk on a routed interface whereas on the 6509 the trunk terminates on a layer 2 interface if you follow my thinking. Dave Thomas wrote: Okie, Here is my CAT 4006 specs and topology. My 4006 has a Supervisor Engine II (WS-X4013). It has an uplink TRUNK to a CAT 6509 that has MSFC doing routing between VLANS and has MLS enabled. My question is if I have MLS configured on MSFC of the 6509, the enabling of MLS on CATOS of 4006 via 6509 MSFC as the MLS-RP working? Thanks! Thomas N. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24159t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ip direct-broadcast [7:24160]
Hello, I'm wondering what ip direct-broadcast does? If I have a PC with IP 10.1.1.2, default to 10.1.1.1, which is a router configured with ip direct-broadcast. Does it mean all 10.1.1.255 traffic will be forward to other subnets? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24160t=24160 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Well, please correct me if I am wrong. As my understanding, MLS is the main feature of Layer 3 switch (5000, 6000, 6500... not sure 4000 products). MLS allows hosts on different subnets talking at the wire speed after initially routed by the route processor. After that, MAC of these hosts and the flow is added on the MLS cache table; therefore these hosts can tranfer packets with no further routing needed (at layer 2). Without MLS enabled, all packets to/from host on different hosts have to be routed with the Route Processor (MSFC or RPM...) and therefore got bottleneck there. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can't say I've tried that. First question, why is MLS sooo important that you feel you must do this?? There are legitimate reasons for MLS but I see to many people turn knob only because they are there:( That aside I don't think you can. On the external devices on which you can do this your terminating the trunk on a routed interface whereas on the 6509 the trunk terminates on a layer 2 interface if you follow my thinking. Dave Thomas wrote: Okie, Here is my CAT 4006 specs and topology. My 4006 has a Supervisor Engine II (WS-X4013). It has an uplink TRUNK to a CAT 6509 that has MSFC doing routing between VLANS and has MLS enabled. My question is if I have MLS configured on MSFC of the 6509, the enabling of MLS on CATOS of 4006 via 6509 MSFC as the MLS-RP working? Thanks! Thomas N. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24161t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
On the last sencentence, I meant packets to/from host on different VLAN / subnet... Sorry, Thomas N. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, please correct me if I am wrong. As my understanding, MLS is the main feature of Layer 3 switch (5000, 6000, 6500... not sure 4000 products). MLS allows hosts on different subnets talking at the wire speed after initially routed by the route processor. After that, MAC of these hosts and the flow is added on the MLS cache table; therefore these hosts can tranfer packets with no further routing needed (at layer 2). Without MLS enabled, all packets to/from host on different hosts have to be routed with the Route Processor (MSFC or RPM...) and therefore got bottleneck there. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can't say I've tried that. First question, why is MLS sooo important that you feel you must do this?? There are legitimate reasons for MLS but I see to many people turn knob only because they are there:( That aside I don't think you can. On the external devices on which you can do this your terminating the trunk on a routed interface whereas on the 6509 the trunk terminates on a layer 2 interface if you follow my thinking. Dave Thomas wrote: Okie, Here is my CAT 4006 specs and topology. My 4006 has a Supervisor Engine II (WS-X4013). It has an uplink TRUNK to a CAT 6509 that has MSFC doing routing between VLANS and has MLS enabled. My question is if I have MLS configured on MSFC of the 6509, the enabling of MLS on CATOS of 4006 via 6509 MSFC as the MLS-RP working? Thanks! Thomas N. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24162t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA is worth ? [7:24085]
yeah ditto that, if u want to design nets the da and dp are the way to go, if u want to maintain/support, the na and np are preferable. I would probably try for da and na before going to either the np or dp, for breadth reasons. Brian Sonic Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: Cosmin, I did CCNP first and then decided to do CCDP which requires CCDA. The reason is that any reference to designing networks is positive. I have had many small firms ask me to design networks for them and they always notice the DA and DP. Also by studying the track it enhanced my knowledge. Check www.brainbuzz.net for salary surveys... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, Can anybody tell me the degree of the worth of CCDA cert? Should I invest in CCDA or go directly towards CCNP ? Are CCDA certs wanted on the market? Or just a bit? Is anybody who can say that CCDA cert brought him an advantage distinct from the adv. grought bu CCNP? Do you happen to know a site with sallary survey for certified professionals? Thanks a lot. Cosmin MCSE NTW2K,CCNA - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24163t=24085 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip direct-broadcast [7:24160]
this command, prevent broadcast from being dropped. So after activating this, u can configure helper-address to convert broadcast to unicast or to propagate broadcast to some other subnets. The command ip directed-broadcast enable the translation of directed broadcast. This is used if u have a DHCP or BOOTP server and clients on different subnets. Helper Address are used to permit client to join servers. In IOS 12.0, the default is disabled Hope it helps. -- Stephane LITKOWSKI Student in a french computer science school EPITA Telecom Network specialization CCNA + Switching EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Bond a icrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm wondering what ip direct-broadcast does? If I have a PC with IP 10.1.1.2, default to 10.1.1.1, which is a router configured with ip direct-broadcast. Does it mean all 10.1.1.255 traffic will be forward to other subnets? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24165t=24160 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071]
Thanks Drew, John and Tim! That has been great. Sorry for the simple questions, but I have not had access to a lab before, and have just got a new job where I will have, so I am trying to increase my conceptual knowledge to more physical hands-on knowledge. I am really looking forward to getting to have a play (in a non-production environment!) without the threat of bringing anything important down. The routers I have worked with in my previous job pretty much involved telnet and that was it. Thanks heaps again! - Original Message - From: Drew - Home To: Sam Deckert Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:28 AM Subject: Re: DTE/DCE explanation please [7:24071] So, a special db60-db60 cable can be used for back-to-back connections, and will work as long as one router is set to be the DCE and provide a clockrate. Correct. Does this cable have any special pinouts or anything? It is DCE on one end and DTE on the other. Is there a diagram somewhere? Did a search on google, no luck tho! Maybe on the Cisco page? Also, would a setup with two V.35 cables (one male, one female) connected together between two routers work in the same way? You can connect one DCE cable to one DTE cable for the same effect. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24166t=24071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Study Guids [7:24152]
I found the Cisco press books,CCO and this list was all that I needed to get my NP. Tim From: Patrick Bass Reply-To: Patrick Bass To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network Study Guids [7:24152] Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:15:17 -0400 Invest your money in some examcrams instead if you are going to go that route. Their CCNP stuff wasn't that great IMO. Mark Latis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am working towards the CCNP certification . I have used networkstudyguids.com for my CCNA preparation ( couple of years ago ) . anybody know if they have still a good material content ? Thanks, Mark PS. I am using the Cisco Press books as my main reading material _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24164t=24152 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AppleTalk address [7:24094]
Etherpeek used to John Chang wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is there an free/shareware software that can tell me the name/IP address of the device if I know the AppleTalk address? Or a device that will listen to the network and show me the AppleTalk address, IP address, name of the device. I am on a PC but will use a mac or linux. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24168t=24094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mulilayer Switch (MLS) on CAT 4006 [7:24142]
Your correct, in fact MLS is enabled by default on the 6500. Main feature of a 5000, I don't think. I have seen people enable MLS on networks that were not even breaking a sweat, why? because they could and I'm simply saying that is not a good reason as I have fought to many MLS bugs to simply turn it on without good reason. Years ago there were many bugs in ip route-cache, (fast swithing) which hardly anyone thinks about anymore and someday MLS will be the same. I you need a feature by all means use it but don't over engineer a network cause you can. Dave Thomas N. wrote: Well, please correct me if I am wrong. As my understanding, MLS is the main feature of Layer 3 switch (5000, 6000, 6500... not sure 4000 products). MLS allows hosts on different subnets talking at the wire speed after initially routed by the route processor. After that, MAC of these hosts and the flow is added on the MLS cache table; therefore these hosts can tranfer packets with no further routing needed (at layer 2). Without MLS enabled, all packets to/from host on different hosts have to be routed with the Route Processor (MSFC or RPM...) and therefore got bottleneck there. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can't say I've tried that. First question, why is MLS sooo important that you feel you must do this?? There are legitimate reasons for MLS but I see to many people turn knob only because they are there:( That aside I don't think you can. On the external devices on which you can do this your terminating the trunk on a routed interface whereas on the 6509 the trunk terminates on a layer 2 interface if you follow my thinking. Dave Thomas wrote: Okie, Here is my CAT 4006 specs and topology. My 4006 has a Supervisor Engine II (WS-X4013). It has an uplink TRUNK to a CAT 6509 that has MSFC doing routing between VLANS and has MLS enabled. My question is if I have MLS configured on MSFC of the 6509, the enabling of MLS on CATOS of 4006 via 6509 MSFC as the MLS-RP working? Thanks! Thomas N. MADMAN wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sure if you use an external MLS-RP, 75xx, 72xx, 4500, 4700. I'm reasonably sure it's a hardware issue with the WS-X4232-L3. Dave Thomas wrote: Hi All, I wonder if CAT 4006 switch support MLS? It doesn't seem to have a layer 3 card. I wonder if I can enable MLS using an external router, or pointing it to the MSFCs of a CAT 6500 that have MLS enabled? Thanks! Thomas N. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24169t=24142 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AAA for web pages [7:24167]
What is a good way to setup AAA for a web page? I have a client who wants me to do it for an upcoming gig and I'm clueless... -- Best Regards, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24167t=24167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Routing [7:23913]
JD, The Cisco Press exam guide rocked, IMHO. The tests on the CD were dead on. BGP, EIGRP, BGP, OSPF, BGP. Did I mention BGP? -Chris wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Okay I've heard that the CCNP Routing exam 640-503 is a bear. I passed the Switching and BCRAN already, but I hear this one is the toughest. I've been using the ExamCram books and Boson's for the other two. Is there anything else I should be studying to nail this exam? Thanks, jd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24170t=23913 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2000 professional hyperterminal [7:24171]
Is there anything special that is required to get hyperterminal to work with 2000 professional _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24171t=24171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New York Study Group [7:23580]
I would be interested in being part of the cisco study group. - Original Message - From: Philip Jache To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: RE: New York Study Group [7:23580] We could start one. Philip Jache Sports Illustrated 135 West 50th Street New York, NY 10020 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24172t=23580 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT today!-sniffer skills [7:24131]
I really do not agree with this at all. Learning to use the sniffer.. any sniffer, is at the basic level.. easy. Learning how to filter the rush of data and get something meaningful out of it all is half skill and half black magic ;) It takes a certain level of experience AND skill to put together a decode filter by using signatures and boolean functions that is not taught in very many places. And when you are dealing with viruses, napsterlike clones, badly behaved apps and so on, it's not just knowning the TCP stack.. it's knowing how that packet is contructed, why it is contructed that way, why is it doing what it does and how is it doing what it does. That is why I know one engineer who charges right around 12K *a week* and she gets it every week of the year... I also personally know several engineers while good on routers and spouting the OSI layers, TCP layers, etc.. are pretty useless on a sniffer for extended troubleshooting. ::off soap box:: MikeS The more I learn, I understand that I know less and less of what I thought I knew Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24173t=24131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAC address and VLANs [7:23950]
Priscilla, Never fear, I and many others I think, consider any discussion you're a part of a MUST READ! So feel free to .. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Well, now you're really talking about the dark ages. ;-) You are back to the early 1990s discussion about upgrading hubs to switches. That's a good idea so that each port has 100 Mbps (or 10 Mbps) rather than all ports sharing bandwidth and being in the same collision domain. I can't think of any reason not to upgrade to switches at this point. It's difficult to even buy a 100-Mbps hub any more. (I tried and they sent me a switch!) The upgrade is quite seamless (unlike the upgrade from switches to VLAN-aware switches.) This has nothing to do with the late 1990s question of broadcasts which came about when people started replacing routers with switches and designing a network that was a large broadcast domain. They thought they had solved all their problems but they hadn't because a switch forwards broadcasts, whereas a router does not, of course. VLANs let you divide up those broadcast domains and be smarter about the flooding of unknown unicasts (as someone else mentioned, which was a good point.) But VLANs bring with them all sorts of other management headaches. It's a tradeoff that doesn't need to be made in many modern networks, despite what Cisco tells you. The materials that we read about broadcasts in switched networks come from studies Cisco did in 1994. And some books still have that silly triangle that a Cisco marketing engineer (now that's an oxymoron!) designed in 1994. Yes, I know that VLANs have other advantages (supposedly) besides dividing up broadcast domains, and I warned people up front that my point of view was controversial, but I'm sticking to it. ;-) With regards to your practical limits, Cisco has some guidelines (but once again they are based on OLD data ;-) A broadcast domain shouldn't have more than a few hundred nodes. Also, with regards to your comment about sniffing on a switched network. Remember that all you see is broadcasts and traffic to your port (unless you mirror other ports) so you get a skewed view. So have we beat this one to death yet? I enjoyed the discussion. (I hope we didn't put everyone else to sleep! ;-) Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24174t=23950 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2000 professional [7:24175]
I am trying to get hyperminal to work wih 2000 Professionalno such luck _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24175t=24175 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silver partnership status [7:24088]
Silver partner doesn't really mean SQUAT anymore. Cisco cares about how much $$$ you can sell, plain and simple (my personal opinion). Unless you're a gold partner, I dont think Cisco will throw you any leads (at least that's how it is in the Detroit, MI area). Now specializations, that's another story. If your company is a VPN/Security partner or Telephony partner and you are the only ones in the region, you might get some leads...although Network Learning is both and we still havent gotten a single Cisco lead (although that's probably because we sell used hardware too). It couldnt hurt any to upgrade your Premier to Silver status. I think you get a little better discount from distribution. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net Walter Rogowski wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Firstly, my apologies for posting OT on this list, but my company is considering upgrading Cisco Partner status from Premier to Silver. Besides the benefits list by Cisco on CCO, are there any other real benefits ie purchase discounts, better sales leads, marketing etc. that anybody has experience of or is aware of?We sell a fair amount of Cisco kit and as such get good treatment from our Cisco account manager. Will this be any worse when becoming Silver Partners? I am in particular thinking about the number of clients per account manager.Any information would be highly appreciated.. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24176t=24088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BGP Neighbor distribute-list question? [7:24177]
I need some clarification on the the neighbor distribute-list command used for filtering BGP updates. The book I am reading gives the following example, and it is either a typo or I am just misunderstanding it. You have the following route filter configuration: Router bgp 100 Network 172.16.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out Access-list 1 deny 172.16.5.0 0.0.0.255 Access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 There is a diagram and 172.16.1.1/24 is on Neighbor 2 and 172.16.3.1/24 is on Neighbor 1 It then says that the above configuration does the following: The use of the distribute-list command and access-list 1 prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Also, in the diagram Neighbor 1 (172.16.3.1/24) is connected to 172.16.5.0/24 so to me is seems like there is a typo in the book and instead of having the config line read: Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out I think it should read: Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out This would then make the above statment correct in saying that it prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Please let me know if what I am saying sounds correct based on the above information and that it is in fact a typo, or if maybe I am just not understanding it correctly. Thanks, -Aaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24177t=24177 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed CIT today!-sniffer skills [7:24131]
I really do not agree with this at all. Learning to use the sniffer.. any sniffer, is at the basic level.. easy. Learning how to filter the rush of data and get something meaningful out of it all is half skill and half black magic ;) It takes a certain level of experience AND skill to put together a decode filter by using signatures and boolean functions that is not taught in very many places. And when you are dealing with viruses, napsterlike clones, badly behaved apps and so on, it's not just knowning the TCP stack.. it's knowing how that packet is contructed, why it is contructed that way, why is it doing what it does and how is it doing what it does. But how does this have to do with sniffer. The sniffer is my eye on the network. Understanding how a protocol works is the most important. Learning fancy filtering can help but knowing the protocol is most important. I also personally know several engineers while good on routers and spouting the OSI layers, TCP layers, etc.. are pretty useless on a sniffer for extended troubleshooting. I really have to disagree. One of the funniest(saddest) claims I have ever heard is someone claiming, on a resume knowledge of the OSI stack where what they should have said I know the names of the layers. Protocol understanding comes first, being able to do something with it is just a matter or training. I'd rather have a protocol expert and teach them how to use a sniffer than vice versa. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24178t=24131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AAA for web pages [7:24167]
Can you elaborate ? How and where is this webpage to integrate with a device that does AAA ? What is a good way to setup AAA for a web page? I have a client who wants me to do it for an upcoming gig and I'm clueless... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24179t=24167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT- maybe... [7:24121]
HP Openview. But it is pricey. Not sure how it compare with CiscoWorks, pricewise. But it is a nice application. And I hear the latest version lets you access it via a web browser. Heather Buri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT- maybe... [7:24121] Hi All, Besides Cisco Works, anyone know of any good Cisco monitoring apps? I am looking to monitor my routers, VPN and switches. Thanks, Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24130t=24121 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099]
For a good book on sniffer analysis, try Network Troubleshooting book. http://www.commgear.com/commgear/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=2cat=Books jd -Original Message- From: Heather.L.Buri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:03 PM To: cisco Subject: RE: Passed CIT today! Now a CCNP [7:24099] Ok. I just want to clarify something since a couple of people have emailed me off list asking how I think an MCSE is going to help me attain my CCIE. :-) The short answer is, I don't expect it to help me attain the CCIE. My thought processes on this were varied. Mainly, I know I am nowhere near ready to attempt the lab. So why spend $1250 when I know I am not ready? I did not mean to imply that I am going to stop with Cisco. Quite the contrary. I have a home lab which I intend to continue working on. I also have my job which requires me to keep up with Cisco. But in my job, what I tend to find is there are the server people who know the server end really well. And there are the Network people who know the Infrastructure and the routing equipment really well. But there are not too many people who can troubleshoot from end-to-end. I want to be one of those people. There are also a lot of companies which are migrating to W2K, including the company I am at right now. We have had a lot of issues with this. (Which, of course, keeps getting blamed on the switches!) :-) But that is another story. On another note, I wanted to plug some great resources I found for learning to analyze traffic with a Sniffer. I don't have any vested interest in these books. However, since I have been searching for quite some time for some good reference material for learning sniffer and have had a hard time finding any, I was quite happy when I found these. They are published by http://www.podbooks.com and are written by Laura Chappell. I have the TCP/IP Analysis and Troubleshooting which I bought from Amazon.com for $66. However, I have since found that podbooks sells the set of 4 directly on it's website for $99. So I am probably going to purchase those and slap this one on Ebay. :-) They have really been good at explaining how to analyze a packet trace. I already knew how to do a basic capture, but analysis was another story. I just thought I would mention these in case anyone else out there was in a situation like mine. Stuck in a job that won't pay for training, but wanting to learn packet capture analysis. I had not seen these particular books mentioned previously. Heather Buri Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24180t=24099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT- maybe... [7:24121]
What's Up Gold (WUG) isn't that bad and it's much cheaper. It's just a pinging machine to see if stuff is still up. I'm not sure if you meant CW or maybe Netview or Openview. Did you want to find a tool that has a map and shows you when things go down as turning red and generating an alert of sorts? Or did you want to capture snmp traps for config changes? Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT- maybe... [7:24121] Hi All, Besides Cisco Works, anyone know of any good Cisco monitoring apps? I am looking to monitor my routers, VPN and switches. Thanks, Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24138t=24121 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP Neighbor distribute-list question? [7:24177]
yes Aaron, it looks like a typo. The reference to 172.16.1.1 should be 172.16.3.1 Can you tell us which book it is, just incase any of us are also reading it? thanks -e- - Original Message - From: Aaron Shively To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:14 PM Subject: BGP Neighbor distribute-list question? [7:24177] I need some clarification on the the neighbor distribute-list command used for filtering BGP updates. The book I am reading gives the following example, and it is either a typo or I am just misunderstanding it. You have the following route filter configuration: Router bgp 100 Network 172.16.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out Access-list 1 deny 172.16.5.0 0.0.0.255 Access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 There is a diagram and 172.16.1.1/24 is on Neighbor 2 and 172.16.3.1/24 is on Neighbor 1 It then says that the above configuration does the following: The use of the distribute-list command and access-list 1 prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Also, in the diagram Neighbor 1 (172.16.3.1/24) is connected to 172.16.5.0/24 so to me is seems like there is a typo in the book and instead of having the config line read: Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out I think it should read: Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out This would then make the above statment correct in saying that it prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Please let me know if what I am saying sounds correct based on the above information and that it is in fact a typo, or if maybe I am just not understanding it correctly. Thanks, -Aaron _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24183t=24177 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BGP Neighbor distribute-list question? [7:24177]
don't know the book you have ( but guessing Doyle? ) one of the two neighbor statements is wrong. your neighbor is the guy on the other end of the link. Just another one of those errors that seem to flood all the study materials. Whichever one makes sense is probably the right answer. BTW, what the distribute list / access list is attempting to accomplish is to prevent the 172.16.5.0/24 route from being advertised, while at the same time permitting all other routes to be advertised. Is that what the author is attempting to demonstrate? HTH Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Shively Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BGP Neighbor distribute-list question? [7:24177] I need some clarification on the the neighbor distribute-list command used for filtering BGP updates. The book I am reading gives the following example, and it is either a typo or I am just misunderstanding it. You have the following route filter configuration: Router bgp 100 Network 172.16.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out Access-list 1 deny 172.16.5.0 0.0.0.255 Access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 There is a diagram and 172.16.1.1/24 is on Neighbor 2 and 172.16.3.1/24 is on Neighbor 1 It then says that the above configuration does the following: The use of the distribute-list command and access-list 1 prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Also, in the diagram Neighbor 1 (172.16.3.1/24) is connected to 172.16.5.0/24 so to me is seems like there is a typo in the book and instead of having the config line read: Neighbor 172.16.1.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out I think it should read: Neighbor 172.16.3.1 remote-as 100 distribute-list 1 out This would then make the above statment correct in saying that it prevents the BGP routing updates from neighbor 1 propagating into neighbor 2's routing table. Please let me know if what I am saying sounds correct based on the above information and that it is in fact a typo, or if maybe I am just not understanding it correctly. Thanks, -Aaron Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24182t=24177 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
