Re: looking for Cisco-COLT questions for CIT [7:31147]

2002-01-08 Thread Johnny McKenzie

Yarie, I just passed this one ( last Thursday ) and I only just got through,
5% over the pass mark. While I found BSCN material more challenging, I got
the worst mark of any of my exams on CIT. ( I thought I was going to find
out what what the machine says when you fail, still don't know, don't want
to know ).

My advice is know your trouble shooting model, and know your ISDN
inside-out.

Cheers

Johnny.


- Original Message -
From: Yarie 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:06 AM
Subject: looking for Cisco-COLT questions for CIT [7:31147]


 Hi all,

 I am preparing for CIT exam, which I am going take on Friday.
 I heard that Cisco COLT questions are good and similar to those asked on
the
 real exam.
 also heard that it is the hardest of all four exams.

 Is that true? can someone send me those questions for review?

 I don't have the CCO login.

 thanks allot,

 Yaron




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EIGRP Summary Question [7:31256]

2002-01-08 Thread Hunt Lee

When using EIGRP Summary:

On the router that performs the summarization, it's routing table will have
entry listed as Null0 for the summary routes

And on the downstream routers, their routing table will only have the
summaries - no reference to Null 0.

However, the following paragraph is what I'm confused about:-

By applying the longest match rule, the downstream routers will forward all
destination prefixes using the summary address.   Eventually, these routers
will be forwarded to the router performing the summarization.  The
summarizing router will match the destination prefixes with their longer
matching subnets.  If any of the destination prefixes match the summary
address only, the summarizing router will forward these packets to the null
interface, and they will be discarded.

But why / when would the destination prefixes match the summary address
only??

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee
IP Solution Analyst
Cable  Wireless




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RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]

2002-01-08 Thread Pierre-Alex J. Guanel

This is clear, thanks

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kayne Ian (Softlab)
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


Content filtering isn't the issue here. If the user opens a document on the
server and has to traverse the firewall to get it, the firewall will
evaluate the request based on it's ruleset. If it finds the request is valid
it will allow the data to be sent (ie: the document downloaded to the pc).
At this point the user is able to copy and paste on the local machine, which
is outside the control of the firewall. Content filtering only works to
control what data you receive, not what you do after you've got it.

Ian Kayne
Technical Specialist - IT Solutions
Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company


 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 07 January 2002 16:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


 Hi Daniel,

 You are right on the second point. The only way (that I know of)to
 accomplish the requirement is to deny the users the
 permission to write to
 their hard drive. Windows 2000 does have a very granular security,
 unfortunately, the way it is setup, if you can read a file
 from a server,
 you can also copy it to your machine. --- As Andy explained,
 since I have no
 control over the users' machine, I am stuck unless I use a web base
 interface (see previous messages)--

 One the first point, I am not so sure. My understanding is
 that content
 filtering does look inside the packets (application layer)
 and uses what it
 sees to filter traffic.

 Any firewall expert want to comment?

 Pierre-Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: 'Pierre-Alex J. Guanel'
 Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


 Firewalls make decisions based on IP addresses and port
 numbers. So that
 doesn't look like a good candidate.
 I would think that W2K would have your solution. (I am in the
 dumb user
 category with MicroSoft). Cannot you set rights on files or
 folders? Is your
 problem that they can do either a copy or a cut and paste
 once they can
 read the file? Just thinking out loud - it would seem that their local
 machine would have to be severely
 restricted - as in a dumb terminal.

  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:19 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]
 
 
  Can a Cisco firewall do this?
 
  Pierre-Alex
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Permissions: read but don't copy
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am running Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
 
  I would like to allow users (Windows 98 / Windows 2000
  Professional) to read
  a file,
 
  but prevent them to copy it electronically to their desktop.
  It looks like
  Windows 2000 does not
 
  have the permissions to accomplish this. Has anyone done
 this before?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Pierre-Alex
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]

2002-01-08 Thread Hire, Ejay

On an off-topic note, PGP has a feature that will allow you to view an
encrypted (file/message) but not save or print.  The creative amongst us
could modify the source and recompile, but 

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


This is clear, thanks

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kayne Ian (Softlab)
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


Content filtering isn't the issue here. If the user opens a document on the
server and has to traverse the firewall to get it, the firewall will
evaluate the request based on it's ruleset. If it finds the request is valid
it will allow the data to be sent (ie: the document downloaded to the pc).
At this point the user is able to copy and paste on the local machine, which
is outside the control of the firewall. Content filtering only works to
control what data you receive, not what you do after you've got it.

Ian Kayne
Technical Specialist - IT Solutions
Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company


 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 07 January 2002 16:44
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


 Hi Daniel,

 You are right on the second point. The only way (that I know of)to
 accomplish the requirement is to deny the users the
 permission to write to
 their hard drive. Windows 2000 does have a very granular security,
 unfortunately, the way it is setup, if you can read a file
 from a server,
 you can also copy it to your machine. --- As Andy explained,
 since I have no
 control over the users' machine, I am stuck unless I use a web base
 interface (see previous messages)--

 One the first point, I am not so sure. My understanding is
 that content
 filtering does look inside the packets (application layer)
 and uses what it
 sees to filter traffic.

 Any firewall expert want to comment?

 Pierre-Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: 'Pierre-Alex J. Guanel'
 Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


 Firewalls make decisions based on IP addresses and port
 numbers. So that
 doesn't look like a good candidate.
 I would think that W2K would have your solution. (I am in the
 dumb user
 category with MicroSoft). Cannot you set rights on files or
 folders? Is your
 problem that they can do either a copy or a cut and paste
 once they can
 read the file? Just thinking out loud - it would seem that their local
 machine would have to be severely
 restricted - as in a dumb terminal.

  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:19 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]
 
 
  Can a Cisco firewall do this?
 
  Pierre-Alex
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Permissions: read but don't copy
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am running Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
 
  I would like to allow users (Windows 98 / Windows 2000
  Professional) to read
  a file,
 
  but prevent them to copy it electronically to their desktop.
  It looks like
  Windows 2000 does not
 
  have the permissions to accomplish this. Has anyone done
 this before?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Pierre-Alex
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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Re: 6509 switch [7:31251]

2002-01-08 Thread steve skinner

first thing to try and the easyist is to set his pc to 10/100 full and set 
the 6509 to do thissometimes autonegatation doesn`t work to well,,,

to help abit more

after changing the duplex/speed settings to the same...

collisions   as above...

FCS,CRC usually means that the packets your switch is recieving are 
corrupt..check (1st driver 2nd card 3rd cable 4th switch port)

Runts,giants.these are just odd sized packets ..
check (1st OS of pc...doubt it..second driver)

as said easyist thing to do is set the duplex/speed to manual first and see 
where you go from there..

HTH

steve
From: Ali, Abbas 
Reply-To: Ali, Abbas 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 6509 switch [7:31251]
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:40:03 -0500

I am receiving lot of errors on my Ethernet Line Cards in 6509 switch.  For
example, Ports have different errors in FCS, CRC, Runts, Giants, and
Collisions.  Is it possible to narrow down whether it could be NIC Card, 
Bad
Cable, auto negotiation etc?  One of the users has a brand new computer and
cable, but I am still showing the port he is connected to has  lots of FCS,
and collisions as well as runt frame.

any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: Number Expansion Question. [7:31238]

2002-01-08 Thread c1sc0k1d

How bout this?

num-exp [0-9] 312223

The k1d


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 I am working on a lab at school and I'm stuck.  They want us to be able to
 press any number to dial the full number 312223

 I know that if you put just a . such as:

 num-exp . 312223

 This will let you press ANY KEY, # and * included.  Is there any easy way
to
 make it just 0-9 without doing 10 seperate statements?

 Thanks




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Re: EIGRP Summary Question [7:31256]

2002-01-08 Thread Scott Hoover

If for some reason one of the routes fails that is being summarized, the
packet will match the summary to null 0 and be dropped.  This is a safety
mechanism so the router doesn't waste cycles on packets it can't route.


Hunt Lee  wrote in message
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 When using EIGRP Summary:

 On the router that performs the summarization, it's routing table will
have
 entry listed as Null0 for the summary routes

 And on the downstream routers, their routing table will only have the
 summaries - no reference to Null 0.

 However, the following paragraph is what I'm confused about:-

 By applying the longest match rule, the downstream routers will forward
all
 destination prefixes using the summary address.   Eventually, these
routers
 will be forwarded to the router performing the summarization.  The
 summarizing router will match the destination prefixes with their longer
 matching subnets.  If any of the destination prefixes match the summary
 address only, the summarizing router will forward these packets to the
null
 interface, and they will be discarded.

 But why / when would the destination prefixes match the summary address
 only??

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Best Regards,
 Hunt Lee
 IP Solution Analyst
 Cable  Wireless




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FW: wireless issues [7:31265]

2002-01-08 Thread Eric Drueding

Hi,

I am currently troubleshooting a wireless connectivity issue.  My client is
running LEAP (2 350 AP's running 11.08T [set to draft 8], ACS 2.6, clients
running drivers 6.97 - firmware 4.2.3 - and client version 4.15) , which was
working fine up until 2 days ago after a failed PIX install (network was
returned to original configuration in which wireless service had worked
fine).  Both the AP's and the ACS box were located on the internal network
before the failed PIX install - and after.  The next morning wireless isn't
working at all.  The ACS server was rebooted during the PIX install.

To describe the actual symptoms:  clients are associating to one AP, then
dissassociate, then associate to the other AP.

When I debug eap, I get the following output:

EAP: Sending Identity Request
EAP: Received EAPOL START from IBM-C5AZ0
EAP: Sending Identity Request
EAP: Received Identity Response from IBM-C5AZ0
EAP: Response not from most recent request. Dropping packet.
EAP: Received Identity Response from IBM-C5AZ0
EAP: Forwarding packet to RADIUS server

27 days, 20:05:21 (Warning): No EAP-Authentication response for Station
[IBM-C5A
Z0]00409658a3ea from server 192.168.1.48

The AP shows users associating but not authenticating and, as stated
earlier, the client shows that it is associating to one AP, then the other.
This network had been operating stably up until this point and I don't see
how a failed PIX install (which really ony affected the subnets and
connections connecting to the internet) could provoke this kind of behavior.

Any ideas, advice, etc.?

Thanks,

Erik




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Re: Boson practice tests [7:31209]

2002-01-08 Thread steve skinner

test 2 is best that is what i used.

but don`t underestimate the power of the famous token ring white 
paper..which i no-longer have soorry...for explaining RIF`s

HTH

steve

From: Hans Stout 
Reply-To: Hans Stout 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Boson practice tests [7:31209]
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:38:35 -0500

Hello colleagues,

I am preparing for the written CCIE (Routing  Switching) and I came across
the Boson CCIE practice exams. The questions look ok; does anybody have
comments on the quality of these practice exams ?
Your comments are welcome. Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Hans





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Re: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]

2002-01-08 Thread bergenpeak

sent-username is not an option for me under ppp chap.  My
options at ppp chap are hostname, password, wait, and
refuse.

Thanks


McCallum, Robert wrote:
 
 what about ppp chap sent-username ?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: bergenpeak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 07 January 2002 13:09
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]
 
 I'm working through the different ways one can configure CHAP
 authentication between two routers over a PPP serial link.
 
 If I configure ppp encap and ppp chap authentication and both sides
 of the link and use the global:
 
 username  password
 
 for identification, the link comes up and IPCP is established.  The
 routers have hostnames defined to be rtr-2505 and rtr-2514.
 
 When I try to use the simpler CHAP config, where one can encode
 in the interface directly the same hostname and password, I see
 the error:
 
 PPP Serial0: Using alternative CHAP hostname something
 PPP Serial0: CHAP Challenge id=14 received from something
 PPP Serial0: ignoring challenge with local name
 
 On both rtrs I have the following defined on the serial interface:
 ppp encap
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname something
 ppp chap password else
 
 there are no usernames defined globally.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Thanks




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Re: 6509 switch [7:31251]

2002-01-08 Thread Ian Henderson

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Ali, Abbas wrote:

 One of the users has a brand new computer and cable, but I am still
 showing the port he is connected to has lots of FCS, and collisions as
 well as runt frame.

Hi :)

Try hard-coding speed and duplex on each end, clearing the interface
counters and trying again. Autonegotiation is less than perfect and can
cause these kinds of symptoms (as discussed over the last couple of
days...). Its at least the easiest thing to check.

Rgds,



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Re: NSSA [7:31269]

2002-01-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hi Friends,

How can I inject external routes to OSPF via NSSA ASBR wihtout conversion of
the LSA-7 to LSA-5.

Thanks and cheers



What problem are you trying to solve?  If I understand you correctly, 
you don't want to use NSSA exactly as it's designed.

Externals enter the NSSA and, subject to any filtering/summarization 
on the ABR, propagate as type 7's throughout the NSSA itself. They 
are converted to type 5s by the ABR.




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Re: redistribute rip route to igrp [7:31270]

2002-01-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

When  i redistribute rip route to igrp process,do i have to input 
all the 5 metric ?

how to get the metric value ?

Thanks.


Assume you don't input them, and IGRP receives the route. What would 
IGRP use as a metric that it distributes to the other IGRP routers?




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Re: How to block MSN, and others. [7:31057]

2002-01-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Chuck wrote, Let he who has never done something stupid while 
learning this stuff cast
the first stone ;-


People who live in optical networks shouldn't cast stones.

Further, executives of optical networking firms should only order VIP 
furniture when it is actually needed, rather than store it on upper 
floors.  For, it is written, people who live in glass houses 
shouldn't store thrones.

[Apologies in advance to those who are not native English speakers, 
and possibly to those who are.]



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  How inept does a netadmin have to be to block his own servers.  If Im
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  guys boss, he is so fired..

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  Success = Preparation + Opportunity


  On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, John Allhiser wrote:

   This discussion reminds me of a popular quote I see all the time on
another
   forum: There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
   problems.
   --attributed to Ed Crowley, Compaq Technical Consultant
  
   A friend of mine worked for a company that had a problem with a certain
   spammer.
   They blocked the IP address of the offending emailer at the gateway,
and
to
   their utter astonishment, the pernicious perpetrator changed its IP.
The
   spam
   continued to flow.
   Eventually, after about 9 IPs were entered into the deny access-list,
the
   legitmate email started having problems (the spammer seemed to have
been
   stopped).+
  
   Long story, short:  The spammer was using the company's ISP's mail
relay
  host
   addresses.
   By shutting down those IPs, they effectively shut down their Intenet
mail
   service.
  
   --John
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:56 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: How to block MSN, and others. [7:31057]
  
  
   I suppose it comes down to they type of company/employees. I'm more
used
to
   companies that leave things fairly open for employees, and demand
(rather
   than expect) that the employee be responsible with it.
   Employees will understand that monitoring needs to be done at times and
   offenders be dealt with.
   Firm and fair sometimes works better than beat me if you can. Not
  always
   though, so admittedly it's horses for courses.
  
   Gaz
  
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Let me put something into perspective here. It was said earlier about
why
give access then block it. Why indeed... the why is for BUSINESS
  reasons..
not day trading, not stock tickers, not chatting for
hours(documented)
   with
friends at the expense of work, viruses coming in on Hotmail
attachments
that bypass the clamped down exchange server and so on.
   
The internet is given to employees for business reasons with the
   expectation
that the employee will be responsible with it. Will there be personal
   use..
of course.. just like the phone. Why limit certain things? gee.. the
   company
pays for a T1, they have 4,000 users, 100 decide to watch a Victoria
   Secret
webcast at 300Kbps.. see the problem?  This not theorical.. this
really
happened to one of my clients and the webcastusers/readaudio users
  managed
to max out the T during working hours.
   
The courts have already decided for good or bad that email is company
property and they can do what they wish with it. I would imagine that
web
access falls under the same rules as it's a company building, desk,
PC(or
Mac), servers, connection and so on.
   
My opinion
   
MikeS




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RE: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]

2002-01-08 Thread Logan, Harold

I agree that the test is difficult, and I can understand someone being
frustrated after taking it. When the correct answers aren't
black-and-white, there's a lot more second-guessing that comes into
play. IMO, in order to truly test a candidate's design abilities, every
question would have to have a fifth multiple choice of E: It depends
and a text box for the candidate to explain his or her answer. Of
course, the grading of said exam wouldn't exactly be scalable... there
would hafta be proctors reading through the responses and deciding if
they're valid or not... but hey it'd be more jobs for CCDP's right?

Ok, bad idea. But I think the subjectiveness of many of the questions is
what makes the test difficult, and when you take the test you get to
decide if you're reading too much into a question, or not reading
enough. 

Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]
 
 
 I don't agree that the CID test is badly written, although I 
 have not seen 
 the new version. (Is it really bad and in what ways?)
 
 I do agree that the CID test uses a different model from most 
 of the other 
 tests. (CCIE written is somewhat similar to CID). The test 
 writer assumes 
 that you know the basic technology answer. To get the right 
 answer you have 
 to think past the obvious, basic answer and think about the 
 caveats, where 
 and how to deploy the protocol or feature, the scalability, 
 performance 
 issues, etc. Answering correctly requires two-step thinking. 
 People who 
 remember that when they take the test get a better score and 
 feel less 
 frustrated.
 
 I think the test isn't popular because Cisco needs companies 
 to train and 
 certify droves of technician drones. Only a few gurus get to 
 design or 
 redesign networks. ;-) The mass majority of people don't think 
 conceptually. A lot of schools these days focus on how to 
 rather than 
 creative, analytical thinking. I hope that changes and that 
 the comment 
 doesn't start a flame!
 
 Speaking of flames, however, I'm still burning from the 
 idiotic comment 
 someone made about one of our illustrious members not having 
 operational 
 experience. Whereas it wasn't true, it also missed the 
 opportunity to see 
 what a blessing it is to have a protocol designer amongst us. 
 It would be 
 as if James Watson dropped in on a discussion group for lab 
 technicians. Or 
 if Picasso dropped in on a discussion amongst Web-page 
 graphics developers.
 
 There's more to Cisco certification than getting a job that 
 will let you 
 wear a beeper and spend time fixing stuff. Hopefully, you'll 
 also get to 
 create stuff. CCDPs and CCIEs get to do analytical, 
 innovative, strategic 
 work in addition to operational, tactical, configuration 
 work. And that's 
 where the adventurous, fun aspects of this industry come into play!
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 At 12:06 PM 1/7/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
 I am also quite surprised at the reality and
 perception regarding this exam. Based on book sales,
 there is a lot of interest in design (not as much as
 CCNA unfortunately), but the corporate environment
 stressed the CCIE and only looked to the CCNP. I think
 this was due to two factors. First, testers didn't
 push the DP track (whether it was the DA or the DP - I
 would contend both) and business don't seem to stress
 the design component outside of the carrier space and
 more tech-driven Fortune 500. The second is the
 perception that the exam is hard, which is the focus
 of this board.
 
 I would argue, failures aside, that the test is hard
 because it is badly written and it focuses on a
 different model then the other exams/tracks. As such,
 preparation should do it, or at least get an applicant
 close. The poor quality of the exam (both versions) is
 a bit of a tweak for me, as it made writing a book on
 the exam more difficult - one had to focus on the test
 passing and the 'correct, non-Cisco answer'
 concurrently. The reality is that Cisco should again
 revise this exam and review the design tracks, in my
 opinion, although with the CCIE now a one day exam and
 other factors I doubt this will happen.
 
 
 --- Steven A. Ridder
 wrote:
   It was the only test I ever failed.  If you ask me,
   there's not much market
   demand for CCDP's (which makes the test a low
   priority), and for the amount
   you have to study to pass the test, it's not worth
   it.  It's good to learn
   though, because it covers a lot of broad topics,
   from SNA to ATM LANE,
   AppleTalk, etc.
  
   Have fun at it.  Study the BPX and IGX.
  
  
   Juan Blanco  wrote in message
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TEAM,
   
Why the popularity of the CID test is very
   low...Tips on this 

Off Topic: Master's Degree in Inernetworking. Wort [7:31273]

2002-01-08 Thread Alex Palanker

Hi All,

I appologize for the offtopic question but I wasn't
able to obtain an answer anywhere else.

Has anyone here attended the Dalhouse University for
the Master's of Engineering in Inernetworking?  I have
been excepted into the program and would like to hear
your opinion on it.

Thanks,
Alex



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Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread Brian Zeitz

I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard
it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1
book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep
Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library
sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com
  has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not
bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco
when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they
really used.



Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net
  there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing
there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a
free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I
am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from
the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to
write new questions. They are pretty much useless.



Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I
do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type
of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it
somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-)




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RE: FW: Cat1900 from standard to enterprise [7:31084]

2002-01-08 Thread Jim Dixon

Cisco tightned down the IOS downloading a bit this past summer.

You will need a contract  SMARTNET or another type to download it. 
And then: only the IOS versions supported under your contract will be
available to you for download and their respective upgrades.

This is the way my local Cisco Reps have explained it to me.

You may want to contact your local Cisco Rep to verify this and/or call
Cisco to buy a contract on your equipment.

Hope this helps,

Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 01:01
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Subject: Re: FW: Cat1900 from standard to enterprise [7:31084]


I dont think you will need a CCO account for this link or you are
talking about the software ?.
If you wanna know the detailed procedure I can mail you separately 




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Re: EIGRP Summary Question [7:31256]

2002-01-08 Thread Ian Henderson

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Hunt Lee wrote:

 But why / when would the destination prefixes match the summary address
 only??

Hi :)

For example, if you have three static routes pointing to three seperate
interfaces each of which is a /25, and you summarise as a /23, the unused
/25 would match the summary address only.

ie:
10.1.2.0/23 -  Null0 (summary address)

10.1.2.0/25 -  Serial0 (static route)
10.1 2.128/25   -  Serial1 (static route)
10.1.3.0/25 -  Serial2 (static route)
10.1.3.128/25   -  Null0 (no static route, matches the summarised
route)

Rgds,





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Re: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]

2002-01-08 Thread MADMAN

try ppp pap sent-username...

  Dave

bergenpeak wrote:
 
 sent-username is not an option for me under ppp chap.  My
 options at ppp chap are hostname, password, wait, and
 refuse.
 
 Thanks
 
 McCallum, Robert wrote:
 
  what about ppp chap sent-username ?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: bergenpeak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 January 2002 13:09
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]
 
  I'm working through the different ways one can configure CHAP
  authentication between two routers over a PPP serial link.
 
  If I configure ppp encap and ppp chap authentication and both sides
  of the link and use the global:
 
  username  password
 
  for identification, the link comes up and IPCP is established.  The
  routers have hostnames defined to be rtr-2505 and rtr-2514.
 
  When I try to use the simpler CHAP config, where one can encode
  in the interface directly the same hostname and password, I see
  the error:
 
  PPP Serial0: Using alternative CHAP hostname something
  PPP Serial0: CHAP Challenge id=14 received from something
  PPP Serial0: ignoring challenge with local name
 
  On both rtrs I have the following defined on the serial interface:
  ppp encap
  ppp authentication chap
  ppp chap hostname something
  ppp chap password else
 
  there are no usernames defined globally.
 
  Ideas?
 
  Thanks
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Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]

2002-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For those interested, I found that old link about the guy who submerged his
motherboard in -40 degree mineral oil ;)

http://www.drffreeze.com/Test2.htm


- Original Message -
From: Steven A. Ridder
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]


 The one where the guy bought 3M super computer coolant and doused his
whole
 computer in it?  I've read any oil can work, but this won't corrode the
 plastic on circuit boards.


 Allen May  wrote in message
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  That is one of the funniest hacks I've ever seen ;)
 
  Have you ever seen the one where that guy tried the ultimate coolant on
 his
  motherboard?  It was some kind of non-conductive oil cooled by a
  refrigerator compressor to below freezing.  The entire motherboard was
  submerged  benchmarks went way up...rofl.
 
  Allen
  - Original Message -
  From: Jarmoc, Jeff
  To:
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:43 PM
  Subject: RE: wireless max distance question [7:30822]
 
 
   There's also the good ol' 802.11b pringles can hack.  I haven't tried
 it,
   and it's obviously not something you'd want to implement in a business
   environment, but I've thought about playing with it as a home toy.
  
   http://verma.sfsu.edu/users/wireless/pringles.php
  
   Jeff Jarmoc - CCSA, CCNA, MCSE
   Network Analyst - Grubb  Ellis
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]
  
  
   I've heard of a Cisco antenna boosters.  Check the qprg. or
  
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao340ap/prodlit/airoa_ds.htm
  
   Some directional antennas can get up to 25 miles.  You may need a line
 of
   sight though.  Check with Cisco
  
   FYI, Linksys wireless access points can be hacked via firmware and
stuff
  to
   get a +3 to +4 dB gain in power.
  
  
 

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Re: OT Request; LAN/WAN monitoring software [7:31227]

2002-01-08 Thread John Kaberna

It depends what kind of monitoring you are talking about.  If you are
looking for a cheap SNMP solution you should take a look at WhatsUp Gold.
To analyze traffic patterns take a look at MRTG.  Why can't you consider HP
OV?  They do have an NT version and I believe the cost is about 4k.  It's
pretty fairly priced I think.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800

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Michael Smith  wrote in message
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 A bit off topic, but would appreciate any suggestions -

 Looking for a software solution, not UNIX based, that has capabilities
 to centrally monitor hardware and network traffic on a small LAN/WAN
 network, that contains HP switches, Cisco routers and Compaq servers.
 HPOV is not an option, end user is not UNIX guru, and network is Win2k
 based.

 Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

 Regards,

 Michael Smith




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Re: Off Topic: Master's Degree in Inernetworking. Wort [7:31278]

2002-01-08 Thread Jason

You might want to figure out the correct spelling for Internetworking
first... ;-)
Otherwise, congrads ... I guess the main thing to check for is to see if
it's acredited by one of the big 4.. ;-)

Alex Palanker  wrote in message
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 Hi All,

 I appologize for the offtopic question but I wasn't
 able to obtain an answer anywhere else.

 Has anyone here attended the Dalhouse University for
 the Master's of Engineering in Inernetworking?  I have
 been excepted into the program and would like to hear
 your opinion on it.

 Thanks,
 Alex




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pri max. cable distance [7:31279]

2002-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi

i want to learn exact maximum distance between router and pbx when using
digital voice module (NM-HDV-1E-30).?
How many meters can they apart from?

Is this distance also valid for NM-1CE1B module when leased line connection?

thanks




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Re: IPv6 [7:31228]

2002-01-08 Thread Geremy Meyers

Also, with multiservice networks on the rise the advanced QoS features will
be well suited for voice and video. Especially in the service provider
arena.

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 Security.
 BTW I had to look up RFC 1149. A classic!

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: IPv6 [7:31228]
 
 
  Another question,
 
  When's IPv6 gonna hit the mainstream?   Or the backbone?  Of
  all the stuff I
  ever read on it, the main reason it came into play was because of the
  impending depletion of public addresses.  Well with NAT,
  firewall and other
  proxy services handiling a lot of requests onto the public
  internet, the
  depletion has been put out a few years (actually, does anyone
  have any good
  like, studies pointing out when this is supposed to happen
  now?).  So what
  else is going to drive the adoption of IPv6?
 
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RE: Frame Relay Question [7:31210]

2002-01-08 Thread Patrick Ramsey

what's the unused column?

-Patrick

 Scott Nawalaniec  01/07/02 05:10PM 
Hi Matt,

You are correct...The DLCI is being learned from the frame-relay
switch...You don't have it configured so it will show up under the unused
column when the sho fram pvc command. Did you order the pvc and haven't
configured it or assigned it to an interface/sub-interface? Or the provider
assigned it to a wrong dlci which I just had happened last week and the week
before.

HTH,


Scott

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Frame Relay Question [7:31210]


So...I am looking at some frame links that a co-worker
brought up not long ago.  I issue a show frame-relay
pvc command and notice that there are 3 dlci's being
seen by the router yet there are only 2 circuits.  The
3rd unknown dlci is listed as being unused.  So, I
look through the config some more and confirm that the
3rd dlci is not defined anywhere in the config.  I am
guessing my router is learning this dlci from the
providers frame switch??  But why?

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong...and thanks in
advance for the help.

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RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is because the
Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam blueprint. Every
chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the sections covered in the actual
exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book.

Shawn K.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]


I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it
has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I
have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you
look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies
and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com
  has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not
bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when
they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really
used.



Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net
  there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing
there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a free
study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am
disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the
400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new
questions. They are pretty much useless.



Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do to
cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person
that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else,
and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-)




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Re: ATM with 7200 and IMA with CES [7:29368]

2002-01-08 Thread MADMAN

Actually I have done serveral IMA configs utilizing regular ole T1
circuits and you only need a single subnet if you configure an IMA
interface and assign the interfaces to it via the ima group.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/121/paima.html

  Dave

GS wrote:
 
 You should ask you carrier what type of cards they are terminating the T1
 lines to. Most carriers support IMA and all u need is properly configure
 your IMA group. If however you carrier have delivered three T1 in the form
 of three separate local loops and they are terminating your access to T1
 cards then you have to:
 load balance/Share on ur 7200 using L3 ( such as equal cost load balancing
 through static routes or whatever).
 The problem of this setup is that it each local loop is required to have it
 own subnet.
 You will have to configure your ATM-IMA adaptor in what we call
pass-through
 mode (which necessarily implies that each port functions as an individual
T1
 port without the benefits of IMA).
 
 The IMA-Mux you're looking for is useless for your case.. since all the IMA
 mux do is take a single input (normally E10) and delivers an inverse muxed
 stream (meaning ATM cells belonging to the same connection split over
 several outgoing links)
 
 If ur carrier is doing the latter I suggest u save ur self the headache and
 dump them :-
 
 Adam Wang  wrote in message
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  Hi group,
 
  I have a few 7200 with ATM-CES adapters in them.  I
  want to depoly them over WAN with a 4.5 meg bandwidth
  to each.  The telco handed to us 3 T1s.  I would
  assume an IMA device of some kind is needed here.
  However, I still want to use the existing ATM-CES
  adapters for this case.  How would I set this up if I
  use a Cisco IMA adapter?  Are there any other external
  IMA mux besides the cisco's IMA adapter that I can use
  with my atm-ces module, and are less than $5000?
 
  I'm new to ATM, so any input would be greatly
  appreciated.
 
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CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]

2002-01-08 Thread Russ Kreigh

How do I disable these messages in my show log?

*Jan  8 08:00:57: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
FastEthernet0/0
 (not full duplex), with blah.blah.com FastEthernet0/0 (full duplex).




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Re: Enterprise Voice and Video over Data (EVVOD) [7:31234]

2002-01-08 Thread Geremy Meyers

The EVVOD class included alot of discussion about protocols, more
specifically ISDN, ATM and Frame Relay framing structures as well as some of
the voip signalling protocols(i.e skinny, H323, SIP, and the like.) Also
there was info about integration with legacy PBXs, Voice Mail, and the
basics of the Call Manager.
The trouble is I haven't seen a book that encompasses all these topics
effectivly.
But..here are a handful that I've found to be helpful. All Cisco press by
the way.

Integrating Voice and Data Networks
http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=23
Good info about the evolution of traditional telephony to the present. Lots
of VoATM, VoFR, and VoIP material.

Deploying Cisco Voice over IP solutions
http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=206
Great source of practical solutions.

CallManager Fundamentals
http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=201
Pretty obvious from the name what this is about. The gory details of the
call manager.

Hope this helps.


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Re: CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

could you have duplex mismatches?  Try locking them down to same speeds.

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Re: Enterprise Voice and Video over Data (EVVOD) [7:31234]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I had some lunk with the Intergrating Voice and Data Networks book.  Also
the internet helped me out.

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RE: CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]

2002-01-08 Thread Wes

I've seen this occur on when a Cisco switch is connected to another with a
non-Cisco switch in the middle in the following manner:

CISCOhalf-duplexNONCISCOfull-duplexCISCO

CDP messages are not recognized by the non-Cisco switch, and are passed
through unchanged.  Each Cisco switch legitimately sets it's CDP duplex
setting; however when they pass through the non-Cisco switch, the far-side
Cisco switch is given the appearance of a duplex mismatch.

Assuming there is no real duplex mismatch, you can try one of the following:

  -Disable CDP
  -Change the logging levels

In both cases, check CCO for details.

 (CCO Logging Explained:)
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_4/config/logging.htm


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Re: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread ko haag

Which Cisco Press book or books do you recommend?

Ko Haag

Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:

 The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is because the
 Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam blueprint. Every
 chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the sections covered in the
actual
 exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book.

 Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

 I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard it
 has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1 book. I
 have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep Library, if you
 look at the different book sites, it seems cert library sells more copies
 and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com
   has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not
 bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco when
 they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they really
 used.

 Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net
   there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing
 there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a
free
 study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am
 disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from the
 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to write new
 questions. They are pretty much useless.

 Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I do
to
 cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of person
 that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it somewhere else,
 and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-)




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Re: CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]

2002-01-08 Thread MADMAN

Fix the problem and they will go away!

  Dave

Russ Kreigh wrote:
 
 How do I disable these messages in my show log?
 
 *Jan  8 08:00:57: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on
 FastEthernet0/0
  (not full duplex), with blah.blah.com FastEthernet0/0 (full duplex).
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RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread RB Jón Eggert Guðmundsson

Use the cisco books as the main reference and use Sybex and examcram few
weeks before the exam to fresh up. That is what I did.
Regards
Jon Gudmundsson

-Original Message-
From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 8. janzar 2002 14:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have heard
it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more then 1
book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the Prep
Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert library
sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com
  has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not
bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco
when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they
really used.



Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net
  there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing
there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is a
free study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I
am disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from
the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to
write new questions. They are pretty much useless.



Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I
do to cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type
of person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it
somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-)




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Double NAT with PIX [7:31294]

2002-01-08 Thread Ali, Abbas

I have a 525 PIX and running normal configuration.  Inside network is in
10.0.0.0/16 segment and doing NAT with public address.  Here is the
situation.  I have a client where I need to have an access through my PIX
with VPN.  The client is using VPN Concentrator and also has 10.0.0.0/16 for
their inside network.  They sent me the VPN Client CD that I installed in my
laptop and gained access to their network through outside segment meaning I
attached my PC between  my PIX's E0 and Internet router in otherwords
bypassed PIX and configured my PC with public address.

Is it possible to connect to their network with me being attached to my
Internal network.  The question is since both the networks mine and theirs
are on the same LAN Segment how is it possible?

Thanks,




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OT: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Lupi, Guy

I was wondering if anyone had experience with sniffers, not free ones like
tcpdump and tethereal, but appliances that are made for that purpose.
Anyone have any suggestions and approximate prices?  Thanks.




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Re: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I have experience with all sorts of ones, from Distributed Sniffer Pro 4.5
down to the free ones like ethereal and eEye's one.  I like ethereal the
best because it's so lightwweight (Sniffer is so taxing on PC's) and can
read any prodect's cap files.  It does everything you need.  The only
problem I have is that it dosen't recognize some packets like the LOOP
packet on Cisco's ethernet ports.

Sniffers DSS can be useful to grab stuff off of remote networks and they
sell sniffer PC's with gig fiber cards in them to sniff backbone traffic if
needed.  Sniffer also has an expert mode that can be helpful with problems.

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Re: Double NAT with PIX [7:31294]

2002-01-08 Thread matt

You should be able to have them point to a
non-overlapping subnet and NAT them back to the
desired 10.0.0.0/16.  Usually when I have done this in
the past, the customer was coming into a DMZ on my end
and I performed that there.  I don't see why you
wouldn't be able to do that here?

ms


--- Ali, Abbas  wrote:
 I have a 525 PIX and running normal configuration. 
 Inside network is in
 10.0.0.0/16 segment and doing NAT with public
 address.  Here is the
 situation.  I have a client where I need to have an
 access through my PIX
 with VPN.  The client is using VPN Concentrator and
 also has 10.0.0.0/16 for
 their inside network.  They sent me the VPN Client
 CD that I installed in my
 laptop and gained access to their network through
 outside segment meaning I
 attached my PC between  my PIX's E0 and Internet
 router in otherwords
 bypassed PIX and configured my PC with public
 address.
 
 Is it possible to connect to their network with me
 being attached to my
 Internal network.  The question is since both the
 networks mine and theirs
 are on the same LAN Segment how is it possible?
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread McMasters, Eric

I've always used the Dolch products.  I believe the one that I've used was a
Dolch 64.  You can get a variety of network card for it from 10/100, Token
Ring, FDDI, and ATM.  Of course the prices will vary depending on the cards,
memory, etc, but they usually run around 10-15K.  Not cheap, but it comes in
a hardend case which packs up nicely for easy transportation.  You can see
their entire line at www.dolch.com.  

Of course if you are looking for something a little bit more inexpensive you
could always get a copy of Etherpeek and load it on a PC.  I've been using
it of late and it works really well.  You can take a look at it at
www.wildpackets.com.  You can also download a 30 day evaluation copy just to
check out.

Hope this helps! 

Eric 



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Subject: OT: Sniffers [7:31296]

I was wondering if anyone had experience with sniffers, not free ones
like
tcpdump and tethereal, but appliances that are made for that purpose.
Anyone have any suggestions and approximate prices?  Thanks.




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RE: Sniffers [7:31300]

2002-01-08 Thread Jeff Kesemeyer

The one that use to be made by Network General, now owned by Network
Associates are the best ones you can get IMHO.
I have used the Ethernet, Token-Ring, Internetwork, and ATM sniffers and
the are all great. They have to models, you can have them in a notebook
for portable sniffing or you can get Distributed sniffers that sit on
your network and you can remotely control when and what you want to
capture. 

You may want the mark them after installing them in your wiring closets.
A phone SE cleaned a wiring closet out and thought one was an old PC
someone dropped off and through it out. 

They start at about $10,000 and go up to $35,000 for the ATM version.

Here's is the link:

http://www.sniffer.com/


Another one that I hear a lot about is EtherPeek, worth looking into.

Jeff Kesemeyer
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
www.bradshawlabs.com
Your CCIE Rack Rental Source
 

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I was wondering if anyone had experience with sniffers, not free ones
like tcpdump and tethereal, but appliances that are made for that
purpose. Anyone have any suggestions and approximate prices?  Thanks.




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RE: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Rodrigues, Mario

What are the free sniffers that you suggest to use ?

Regards,

Mario Rodrigues

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sniffers [7:31296]


I have experience with all sorts of ones, from Distributed Sniffer Pro 4.5
down to the free ones like ethereal and eEye's one.  I like ethereal the
best because it's so lightwweight (Sniffer is so taxing on PC's) and can
read any prodect's cap files.  It does everything you need.  The only
problem I have is that it dosen't recognize some packets like the LOOP
packet on Cisco's ethernet ports.

Sniffers DSS can be useful to grab stuff off of remote networks and they
sell sniffer PC's with gig fiber cards in them to sniff backbone traffic if
needed.  Sniffer also has an expert mode that can be helpful with problems.

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Re: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Ethereal.  It's been ported from Linux to Win32.  It's lightweight.  But
it's not perfect and can crash.

www.ethereal.com

If you use Windows 2000 or XP, just be sure to install the winpcap diver 2.3
beta.  Otherwise 2.2 should work.

http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/winpcap/

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RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

For the Routing 503 exam, Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Catherine
Paquet and Diane Teare. It's ISBN # 1578702283. For other Cisco Press books,
go to www.ciscopress.com

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: ko haag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]


Which Cisco Press book or books do you recommend?

Ko Haag

Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:

 The reason everyone shouts just use Cisco for the 503 exam is 
 because the Cisco Press book exactly follows the Routing 503 exam 
 blueprint. Every chapter in the Cisco Press book is one of the 
 sections covered in the
actual
 exam. You can pass the exam by just using this book.

 Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

 I am studying for the routing exam. I am using Sybex book, I have 
 heard it has a lot of mistakes, but that is why you should use more 
 then 1 book. I have heard arguments for both the Cert Library and the 
 Prep Library, if you look at the different book sites, it seems cert 
 library sells more copies and comes with a CD. Www.bookpool.com
   has the entire set for 96$ US. I have not
 bought it yet though. I think a lot of people shout just use cisco 
 when they actually used other books but don't want to reveal what they 
 really used.

 Yea, colt is gone, but if you go to http://ciscoguide.net
   there is like 100 questions for CCNP routing
 there. I made them into PDFs and keep them on my palm pilot. There is 
 a
free
 study guide on cramsession.com, its not that great, but its free. I am 
 disappointed at there CCNP question of the day, because they are from 
 the 400 exam series, so outdated. I wish they would hire someone to 
 write new questions. They are pretty much useless.

 Anyway, my suggestion is just use more then one source, that is what I 
 do
to
 cross reference to make sure there is no mistakes. I am the type of 
 person that once I do a question, I remember it. So when I see it 
 somewhere else, and its wrong I notice it. Well hope this help :-)




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CCIE preparation [7:31305]

2002-01-08 Thread Marcus Faust

I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little 
curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE.  I would like to know some 
information pertaining to preparing for this certification.  I do have some 
access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on 
experience.  However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part 
of the preparation process.  Now I know that there are some must-haves out 
there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's 
Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up. 
  Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab 
with the hands-on?  Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing 
the hands-on?  Any advice is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]

2002-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For those interested, I found that old link about the guy who submerged his
motherboard in -40 degree mineral oil ;)

http://www.drffreeze.com/Test2.htm


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To:
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]


 The one where the guy bought 3M super computer coolant and doused his
whole
 computer in it?  I've read any oil can work, but this won't corrode the
 plastic on circuit boards.


 Allen May  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  That is one of the funniest hacks I've ever seen ;)
 
  Have you ever seen the one where that guy tried the ultimate coolant on
 his
  motherboard?  It was some kind of non-conductive oil cooled by a
  refrigerator compressor to below freezing.  The entire motherboard was
  submerged  benchmarks went way up...rofl.
 
  Allen
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  From: Jarmoc, Jeff
  To:
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:43 PM
  Subject: RE: wireless max distance question [7:30822]
 
 
   There's also the good ol' 802.11b pringles can hack.  I haven't tried
 it,
   and it's obviously not something you'd want to implement in a business
   environment, but I've thought about playing with it as a home toy.
  
   http://verma.sfsu.edu/users/wireless/pringles.php
  
   Jeff Jarmoc - CCSA, CCNA, MCSE
   Network Analyst - Grubb  Ellis
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
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   Subject: Re: wireless max distance question [7:30822]
  
  
   I've heard of a Cisco antenna boosters.  Check the qprg. or
  
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao340ap/prodlit/airoa_ds.htm
  
   Some directional antennas can get up to 25 miles.  You may need a line
 of
   sight though.  Check with Cisco
  
   FYI, Linksys wireless access points can be hacked via firmware and
stuff
  to
   get a +3 to +4 dB gain in power.
  
  
 

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What equip is really necessary for lab studies? [7:31295]

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Witte

Hello all;
  I know the equipment subject has been discussed many times in this group,
I have followed many of the threads. Of course it would be nice to buy every
piece of equipment on the CCIE lab list but sometimes that is not practical
for people that have kids to feed. Anyway I would like some input on what I
equipment I really need to concentrate on. Right now I have a 2523 for my
frame-relay switch, a 2524,2504,2 2610's and 2 1900's. All have latest IOS
and is sufficient for doing most OSPF, BGP and anything else. I was planning
on getting a 2513 for translation bridging, and a 5500 and 2620 so I can do
a router on a stick and VLAN stuff. I am 99% sure I need fast ethernet to do
ISL and inter-VLAN routing hence the 5500 and 2620. I realized yesterday
that the 4500 can support fast ethernet and token ring so instead of the
2513 and 2620 I can use this. I am also planning on getting a Teletone
simulator for ISDN. As far a VOIP,ATM,and the 3900 I was going to use some
rack time for practice. Here is what I need input on:
1)5500 and 4500 for inter-Vlan routing and VTP-  Can I get away with rack
time?
2)ISDN simulator- Again can I get away with rack time?
3)VOIP,ATM,3900 -rack time?
   I just got the new CCIE Practical studies Part1 and don't see much
inter-VLAN routing. I looks like a great book I only got it yesterday and
its worth a look. They are going to put out volume2 which will go into BGP
and IPX more. I assume Inter-VLAN routing be covered in the lab, just how
much? If the recommendation from everyone is to get the equipment I will,I
would rather spend it on a bootcamp a month before the LAB. I plan on taking
the lab in Sept, but I want to nail down the equipment so I can have one
less thing on my mind. I have access to a lot of equipment at work I just
can't play that much. Thanks in advance everyone!



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RE: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread William Gragido

Ethereal

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Rodrigues, Mario
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:43 PM
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What are the free sniffers that you suggest to use ?

Regards,

Mario Rodrigues

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From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sniffers [7:31296]


I have experience with all sorts of ones, from Distributed Sniffer Pro 4.5
down to the free ones like ethereal and eEye's one.  I like ethereal the
best because it's so lightwweight (Sniffer is so taxing on PC's) and can
read any prodect's cap files.  It does everything you need.  The only
problem I have is that it dosen't recognize some packets like the LOOP
packet on Cisco's ethernet ports.

Sniffers DSS can be useful to grab stuff off of remote networks and they
sell sniffer PC's with gig fiber cards in them to sniff backbone traffic if
needed.  Sniffer also has an expert mode that can be helpful with problems.

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6509 switch [7:31251]

2002-01-08 Thread John W. Reames

I have had lots of FCS and collision errors on ports where one end is full
duplex and the other half. [this is on general with switches, i dont think
its 6509 specific]

check his PC's nic settings re: FDx and speed, autonegotiation and compare
that to the 6509 port's.

I'd suspect that his PC is probably half duplexing and the switch is
full.
 
BTW you probably want to just nail the port (and NIC) to a given speed and
duplex.

-j.

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Router down for a few seconds, many times [7:31308]

2002-01-08 Thread NetEng

I have a Cisco 4000 in the core that goes down for 15 seconds or so about 10
times a day. All interfaces are unreachable (pinging), and from what I can
tell the actual interfaces never actually drop. I will console into it, but
any ideas what I can look for? show processes and ?TIA




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Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]

2002-01-08 Thread Rajesh Kumar

You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command
reference -
William Parkhurst.  The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and
simple example
for all of those.

my $0.02

rajesh


Marcus Faust wrote:

 I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little
 curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE.  I would like to know some
 information pertaining to preparing for this certification.  I do have some
 access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on
 experience.  However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part
 of the preparation process.  Now I know that there are some must-haves
out
 there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's
 Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping
up.
   Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab
 with the hands-on?  Or is it a better idea to read these books while
doing
 the hands-on?  Any advice is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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Re: Router down for a few seconds, many times [7:31308]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Check the load on the link.  Check cpu load.  Check sh int to make sure no
int's were reset.  Check with your service provider to make sure they're not
having any problems, check with the LEC to check your circut to see if it's
dirty.

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RE: CCIE preparation [7:31305]

2002-01-08 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

You will most likely read these books many times. I've found that doing the
hands-on while reading the books helps me understand what is being said. At
the same time, it takes some of the boredom out of trying to plow through
books of this size!

Hands-on experience is so critical that I can't stress it enough. When I
first started doing the Cisco certification track many years ago, I learned
a quick lesson that the real world is very unlike book-learning. So, my
suggestion is to read the books while doing the hands-on.

Shawn K. 

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Subject: CCIE preparation [7:31305]


I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a little 
curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE.  I would like to know some 
information pertaining to preparing for this certification.  I do have some 
access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on 
experience.  However, I was most curious how to go about the reading part 
of the preparation process.  Now I know that there are some must-haves out

there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's 
Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping up.

  Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab 
with the hands-on?  Or is it a better idea to read these books while doing

the hands-on?  Any advice is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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CCIE security boson [7:31314]

2002-01-08 Thread Karim Gueye

All

I just passed the CCIE for R/S.  I am doing the CCIE
for security.

Is the www.boson.com/eula.htm any good?

It is under CCIE Written  CCNP Specialization

try here:
http://download.boson.com/downloads/boson/bos_rspc.exe


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Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]

2002-01-08 Thread EA Louie

The written exam is primarily theory and background, with some (but not an
overwhelming) amount of Cisco IOS content.  Follow the blueprint and check
out
the recommended reading list:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html

For the Lab exam, here are a number of links providing the basics for it:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/exam_preparation/lab.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html



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From: Rajesh Kumar 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE preparation [7:31305]


 You might also need / go thru the book - BGP configurtion and command
 reference -
 William Parkhurst.  The book covers almost all the commands under BGP and
 simple example
 for all of those.

 my $0.02

 rajesh


 Marcus Faust wrote:

  I have recently attained the CCNA and CCNP certifications and was a
little
  curious about preparing for the rigorous CCIE.  I would like to know some
  information pertaining to preparing for this certification.  I do have
some
  access to Cisco equipment, and I know that nothing beats hands on
  experience.  However, I was most curious how to go about the reading
part
  of the preparation process.  Now I know that there are some must-haves
 out
  there such as Jeff Doyles 2 volumes of Routing TCP/IP and Halabi's
  Internet Routing Architectures , and that book by Caslow keeps popping
 up.
Is it a good idea to invest in these books and then prepare for the lab
  with the hands-on?  Or is it a better idea to read these books while
 doing
  the hands-on?  Any advice is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
 
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CCIE counters, r they going up? [7:31318]

2002-01-08 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

Someone on the list (I think it was Chuck) used to try and keep track of how
many new IE numbers they saw each week. I was wondering, with the new lab,
how many on avg are passing ea. week or month. Just curious.

Chris




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RE: OT: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Mr CcIePro1

Agilent.com has a software version of their Advisor hardware box.
You can try the 45day trial of Advisor Software (SW) edition for free. If
you like, you can buy just the parts you need. (Or if you are and
educational facility - The full version is FREE)
Later


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Re: IPv6 [7:31228]

2002-01-08 Thread MADMAN

A peer of mine is doing some testing of IPv6, has a tunnel to the
6bone.  There are a lot of organizations running some IPv6, more all the
time.  As for mainstream I would guess it's a good couple of years.  It
obviously cannot happen overnight but you will have the early adopters
as as more people gain experience, competance and comfort with IPv6 it
will grow and become mainstream.

IPv6rtr#sh ipv6 int fa0/1.708
FastEthernet0/1.708 is up, line protocol is up
  IPv6 is enabled, link-local address is FE80::2B0:64FF:FE35:2801
  Global unicast address(es):
3FFE:C00:8031:2::1, subnet is 3FFE:C00:8031:2::/64
  Joined group address(es):
FF02::1
FF02::2
FF02::1:FF35:2801
FF02::1:FF00:1
  MTU is 1500 bytes
  ICMP error messages limited to one every 500 milliseconds
  ICMP redirects are enabled
  ND DAD is enabled, number of DAD attempts: 1
  ND reachable time is 3 milliseconds
  ND advertised reachable time is 0 milliseconds
  ND advertised retransmit interval is 0 milliseconds
  ND router advertisements are sent every 200 seconds
  ND router advertisements live for 1800 seconds
  Hosts use stateless autoconfig for addresses.

  Here is a good URL for much more info than I have:

http://www.6bone.net/

  Dave

Steven A. Ridder wrote:
 
 Another question,
 
 When's IPv6 gonna hit the mainstream?   Or the backbone?  Of all the stuff
I
 ever read on it, the main reason it came into play was because of the
 impending depletion of public addresses.  Well with NAT, firewall and other
 proxy services handiling a lot of requests onto the public internet, the
 depletion has been put out a few years (actually, does anyone have any good
 like, studies pointing out when this is supposed to happen now?).  So what
 else is going to drive the adoption of IPv6?
 
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Re: OT: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I use both the NAI Sniffer and WildPackets EtherPeek. I like EtherPeek best 
because the user interface is so intuitive. When trying to do a new task 
(like save names or whatever), it seems like my first method of doing it 
always works. With Sniffer, you have to fight the thing to get it to do 
what you want.

Sniffer has an expert system that is somewhat useful for automatically 
determining problems. EtherPeek has NetSense which is similar.

On the downside, EtherPeek used to do a poor job decoding some Cisco 
protocols such as EIGRP, VTP, and ISL. I know they have fixed EIGRP (for 
IP, but not IPX or AppleTalk) in their current version. I haven't checked 
VTP or ISL.

I don't know pricing but I think they are quite expensive

Priscilla

At 12:53 PM 1/8/02, Lupi, Guy wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had experience with sniffers, not free ones like
tcpdump and tethereal, but appliances that are made for that purpose.
Anyone have any suggestions and approximate prices?  Thanks.


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Update: BECN vs TCP congesttion control [7:31219]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I have been searching as to the purpose of these FECN and BECN bits, and I
found this in an old newsgroup from 1994 from a guy who wrote part of Frame
Relay standards.  Looks like Howard and Pricilla were right in that IP
wasn't a concern, as IBM had SDLC and ATT  BellCore had x.25 and other
netowrks.  Looks like x.25 had congestion issues cause of no layer 4?  Am I
right?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred R. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.frame-relay
Subject: Re: Use of FECN/BECN for congestion management.
Date: 16 Nov 1994 16:15:56 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
Lines: 86
Message-ID: 
References:  
 
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


I was part of the Frame Relay Congestion Control battle/brou-ha-ha, or
whatever you prefer to call it, from around 1985 to the time the ANSI
standards were published in 1991.  So I _can_ give some historical
background to the motivations behind BECN and FECN.  I also wrote much of
the text for FECN.

When Frame Relay was conceived, there was little attention paid to
congestion issues.  Frame Relay became the standard because ATT was
pushing HARD for a New Packet Mode Bearer Service (NPMBS) which would
use Layer 2 multiplexing. This was invented by ATT as DMI Mode 3 which
used full LAPD plus X.25
PLP with a single layer 3 channel in each L2 VC.  In spring, 1986, ATT,
IBM and Bellcore agreed to work on Frame Relay and advance it towards ANS
status via ANSI T1D1 (later became T1S1).

None of these companies had much IP experience at the time, and it was
mostly X.25-experienced people working on it.  So the congestion issues
needed to be brought out.  I was working for a company that sold
connectionless networks, and we KNEW about congestion and the
possibilities of congestion collapse.  (Firsthand experience with
congestion collapse in the eary '80s was a very good learning
experience.)  BTW, my main authority on this topic was Raj Jain, who
invented slow-start (named CUTE, congestion control using timouts in
the end-to-end layer) before Van did, and is credited in a footnote in
Van's aticle.

Since modern connectionless-network-layer-based networks use the transport
layer for flow control, and have RECEIVER-based windows, we figured it was
best to the the RECEIVER that the network was congested, because it could
reduce its window size.  We were still in the era when we expected OSI to
catch on, and
the North American OSI Implementors' Agreement for CLNP defined exactly
how to use the Congestion Encountered bit in the CLNP header to
dynamically adjust the windows size in TP4.  Semantically, TP4 is a lot
like TCP, and CLNP is a lot like IP, but IP lacks the CE bit.  :-(
Therefore I proposed the FECN bit.  This made the FR header address
field look different from LAPD, because we had to steal a bit (LAPD has 13
bits of address.)  The technical name for this is Explicit Binary
Feedback.

IBM, on the other hand, had implemented a congestion control strategy for
SNA using SDLC.  In SDLC, the only window is in the SENDER.  So they had
no use for FECN, an asked for a BECN bit.  We argued about it; having both
bits was not widely supported at first because it would have shrunk the
DLCI by another bit! Making it a per-connection option (the bit is FECN
_or_ BECN) was also not popular.  Eventually (by 1989) consensus moved
towards having both bits.

The DE bit was added because the networks needed a way to police the whole
shebang.  Since this was a telco service and telco like to sell rate-based
services, they wanted a way to carry excessive (exceeds the CIR leaky
bucket but not the EIR leaky bucket) traffic, but at lowered priority.  DE
does this quite nicely.  Thus we have three bits stolen from the DLCI.

The whole rate-based thing was written by T1S1.1 (Services) into
T1.610-Addendum, while the FECN and BECH were written by T1S1.2
(Protocols) into T1.618 (Core Aspects of LAPF).  The two mechanisms are
unrelated!

ATT, btw, was concerned about asymmetrical packet voice traffic, and they
put in the Consolidated Link Layer Management message (CLLM), which is in
effect a complex Frame Relay Source Quench.  This isn't widely used.

So in summary, the FECN bit was aimed at feeding the Layer 3 Congestion
Encountered bit, which in turn was to shrink the L4 window (preferably
before losing frames, and thus providing a smoother flow).  The BECH bit
was aimed at reducing the HDLC/SDLC window.  CIR/EIR was aimed at
protecting the network against users who didn't pace their traffic; in
practice, it causes strategic discards which trigger VJ slow-start, and
that forms an implicit feedback mechanism.  The semantics of FECN and
BECN (how you should react; how it is set) are also INDEPENDENT of one
another; they were invented separately and have different notions of
congestion.  And because they're all optional, there's no reasonable
possibility of conformance testing.

It would be ideal if IP were to add a CE bit, like the one in CLNP.  TUBA,
of course, has it, but current IPv6 drafts 

PIX and Websense [7:31323]

2002-01-08 Thread Rodney Jackson

Are there other filtering servers that can be used with PIX beside Websense?
I'm to find a Linux based filtering solution.

Rodney Jackson
Dallas Semiconductor
Network Engineer
(972) 371-4824
  

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Re: PIX and Websense [7:31323]

2002-01-08 Thread Patrick Ramsey

maybe one should try searching for the technology used instead of specific
software packages. (Content Vectoring Protocol)

a quick search on google yields tons of hits for cvp, linux, and cisco
pix... I don't have the time for relev. checking. You could also try
freshmeat.net

-Patrick

 Rodney Jackson  01/08/02 04:16PM 
Are there other filtering servers that can be used with PIX beside Websense?
I'm to find a Linux based filtering solution.

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RE: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]

2002-01-08 Thread Juan Blanco

Here I am again
I would say that I am studding like a dog for this test but the more
interesting is the following:
The more your study the less you know and want to study more and more it is
like a drug..
The test should be a requirement for a ccnp..
I have learn so much preparing for this test because the fact that
everything in networking is not what you see
In order for any one to be a good network engineer a level of thinking in a
more conceptually way should be high...
Any one who is planning for the CCIE should take the CCDP track, it will
help a lot.

JB

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Logan, Harold
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]


I agree that the test is difficult, and I can understand someone being
frustrated after taking it. When the correct answers aren't
black-and-white, there's a lot more second-guessing that comes into
play. IMO, in order to truly test a candidate's design abilities, every
question would have to have a fifth multiple choice of E: It depends
and a text box for the candidate to explain his or her answer. Of
course, the grading of said exam wouldn't exactly be scalable... there
would hafta be proctors reading through the responses and deciding if
they're valid or not... but hey it'd be more jobs for CCDP's right?

Ok, bad idea. But I think the subjectiveness of many of the questions is
what makes the test difficult, and when you take the test you get to
decide if you're reading too much into a question, or not reading
enough.

Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing and Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


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 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]


 I don't agree that the CID test is badly written, although I
 have not seen
 the new version. (Is it really bad and in what ways?)

 I do agree that the CID test uses a different model from most
 of the other
 tests. (CCIE written is somewhat similar to CID). The test
 writer assumes
 that you know the basic technology answer. To get the right
 answer you have
 to think past the obvious, basic answer and think about the
 caveats, where
 and how to deploy the protocol or feature, the scalability,
 performance
 issues, etc. Answering correctly requires two-step thinking.
 People who
 remember that when they take the test get a better score and
 feel less
 frustrated.

 I think the test isn't popular because Cisco needs companies
 to train and
 certify droves of technician drones. Only a few gurus get to
 design or
 redesign networks. ;-) The mass majority of people don't think
 conceptually. A lot of schools these days focus on how to
 rather than
 creative, analytical thinking. I hope that changes and that
 the comment
 doesn't start a flame!

 Speaking of flames, however, I'm still burning from the
 idiotic comment
 someone made about one of our illustrious members not having
 operational
 experience. Whereas it wasn't true, it also missed the
 opportunity to see
 what a blessing it is to have a protocol designer amongst us.
 It would be
 as if James Watson dropped in on a discussion group for lab
 technicians. Or
 if Picasso dropped in on a discussion amongst Web-page
 graphics developers.

 There's more to Cisco certification than getting a job that
 will let you
 wear a beeper and spend time fixing stuff. Hopefully, you'll
 also get to
 create stuff. CCDPs and CCIEs get to do analytical,
 innovative, strategic
 work in addition to operational, tactical, configuration
 work. And that's
 where the adventurous, fun aspects of this industry come into play!

 Priscilla


 At 12:06 PM 1/7/02, Robert Padjen wrote:
 I am also quite surprised at the reality and
 perception regarding this exam. Based on book sales,
 there is a lot of interest in design (not as much as
 CCNA unfortunately), but the corporate environment
 stressed the CCIE and only looked to the CCNP. I think
 this was due to two factors. First, testers didn't
 push the DP track (whether it was the DA or the DP - I
 would contend both) and business don't seem to stress
 the design component outside of the carrier space and
 more tech-driven Fortune 500. The second is the
 perception that the exam is hard, which is the focus
 of this board.
 
 I would argue, failures aside, that the test is hard
 because it is badly written and it focuses on a
 different model then the other exams/tracks. As such,
 preparation should do it, or at least get an applicant
 close. The poor quality of the exam (both versions) is
 a bit of a tweak for me, as it made writing a book on
 the exam more difficult - one had to focus on the test
 passing and the 'correct, non-Cisco answer'
 

Router down for a few seconds, many times [7:31308]

2002-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, show log would be a good start.
You haven't given us much to go on, but if the interfaces don't actually
drop it could be a routing protocol problem.  Or it could be a lot of other
things :-)
Does this happen at specific times?  Regular intervals?  Or is it random?
Is there anything else happening on your network that you can correlate
with this?
What does the log show?  Hopefully that will give you an idea of what to
look at.  You may then need to put on some debugs to get further
information.  Use debugs cautiously or they can hang a perfectly healthy
router!

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 09/01/2002 09:02 am -
   
 
   
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cc:
Sent by:  Subject: Router down for a
few seconds, many
nobody@groupstudy.times
[7:31308]
   
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06:36
   
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Please respond
to
   
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I have a Cisco 4000 in the core that goes down for 15 seconds or so about
10
times a day. All interfaces are unreachable (pinging), and from what I can
tell the actual interfaces never actually drop. I will console into it, but
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Poll-interval option. [7:31328]

2002-01-08 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,

Can somebody clarify me the meaning of the poll-interval sub option in
more descriptive way

in this command.

 1.  neighbor   priority   poll-interval 


Thanks
Rajesh




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RE: CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]

2002-01-08 Thread Erick B.

The CDP duplex error message may not mean you have a
mis-match in the speed/duplex somewhere. 

The message occurs because CDP version 2 packets
include duplex information. CDP version 1 doesn't
include duplex info. If you have a older device that
speaks CDP version 1 only and you're router speaks CDP
version 2 then you'll get this message. 

Ways to fix it are to disable CDP, or change from CDP
version 2 to version 1. You can do this by doing a 'no
cdp advertise-v2' globally on the routers. Not sure
about the switches. 

--- Bolton, Travis 
wrote:
 Make sure that both the router and the switch are
 hard set to the
 speed/duplex setting that you require.  Such as
 possibly 100/full.  Don't
 use Auto Negotiate.  If you have any questions on
 this then give me an email
 and we can discuss further.
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CDP Duplex Message [7:31284]
 
 
 Fix the problem and they will go away!
 
   Dave
 
 Russ Kreigh wrote:
  
  How do I disable these messages in my show log?
  
  *Jan  8 08:00:57: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex
 mismatch discovered on
  FastEthernet0/0
   (not full duplex), with blah.blah.com
 FastEthernet0/0 (full duplex).
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Re: Update: BECN vs TCP congesttion control [7:31219]

2002-01-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I have been searching as to the purpose of these FECN and BECN bits, and I
found this in an old newsgroup from 1994 from a guy who wrote part of Frame
Relay standards.  Looks like Howard and Pricilla were right in that IP
wasn't a concern, as IBM had SDLC and ATT  BellCore had x.25 and other
netowrks.  Looks like x.25 had congestion issues cause of no layer 4?  Am I
right?

First, you've found an excellent source. Fred's ISDN in Perspective 
is one of the best books around.

Second, you're still thinking in an IP-ish way when you talk about 
congestion issues.  SDLC is part of SNA, and there are definitely 
flow control mechanisms in it.  But there was an even more 
fundamental issue in the SNA world:  the host was in control. As a 
terminal, you didn't transmit until you were invited to transmit. 
The controlling mainframe or front end did not send out invitations 
until it was ready to receive.

Remember also that the mainframe (or equivalent) was assumed under 
the control of a single organization, who usually kept a very close 
eye on resource utilization.  New devices COULDN'T be added to an SNA 
network without intervention by the system programming group.

Now, as to X.25 -- you have to think telephony.  We don't think of 
congestion during traditional telephone calls as an issue, because 
the PSTN uses connection admission control.  If the core network is 
at capacity, you'll get the fast busy (technically reorder) signal 
and you can't make that call.

X.25 had a bunch of congestion management features, but using a smart 
network/dumb host model rather than the reverse model in IP.  To 
start with, it was an access, not an end-to-end protocol.  The 
network was perfectly free to refuse to accept a call request if the 
network decided it didn't have the needed capacity.  In extreme 
conditions, the network could clear calls in progress if the network 
became overcongested.  ATM has the same capabilities.

Early X.25 applications were telnet-like, and half duplex -- so there 
was end-to-end control at the application layer.  X.25 also had a 
very limited end-to-end function at the packet layer, which was never 
widely implemented -- called the D bit.

Typically, if you had X.25 network performance problems, the first 
bottleneck was bandwidth on the link to the network entry point. You 
would either upgrade the link, or reduce the number of simultaneous 
calls that it would accept (i.e., the number of users).

I suppose I'm saying that SNA and X.25 were appropriate protocols for 
a much more centrally managed organization than today's networks.  In 
the right context, they tend to be more reliable than many Internet 
applications, but they are more expensive in many ways.




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Re: redistribute rip route to igrp [7:31270]

2002-01-08 Thread Murtaza Syed

The answer to your question is YES.

When used with the IGRP/EIGRP,the metric keyword sets the bandwidth value
(in kbps), the delay (in tens of microseconds),  the reliability (out of
255), and finally the maximum transmission unit (MTU).

These five values constitute the SEED METRIC. The seed metric is the initial
metric value of an imported route. After it is imported into IGRP/EIGRP  AS,
a RIP route begins its life as an IGRP/EIGRP route with composite metric
derived from these values -- regardless of its former RIP metric. However,
as the imported route is propagated to other IGRP/EIGRP routers, its metric
value will increment  according to the rules of IGRP/EIGRP.

When a router receives updates from different routing protocols about the
same network, it can't use dissimilar metrics to evaluate  a route , so it
uses the administrative distance to decide decide which protocol to believe.
The lower the value of administrative distance the more believable the
protocol.

Bandwidth and dealy are the most important ones when calculating the
composite metric.

Hope this helps.

Regds,

Murtaza


- Original Message -
From: Howard C. Berkowitz 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: redistribute rip route to igrp [7:31270]


 When  i redistribute rip route to igrp process,do i have to input
 all the 5 metric ?
 
 how to get the metric value ?
 
 Thanks.


 Assume you don't input them, and IGRP receives the route. What would
 IGRP use as a metric that it distributes to the other IGRP routers?




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Re: OT Request; LAN/WAN monitoring software [7:31227]

2002-01-08 Thread norsyam ariffin

Try www.ipswitch.com. There you will find what's up. Its a monitoring 
software.


From: Michael Smith 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT Request; LAN/WAN monitoring software [7:31227]
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:45:57 -0500

A bit off topic, but would appreciate any suggestions -

Looking for a software solution, not UNIX based, that has capabilities
to centrally monitor hardware and network traffic on a small LAN/WAN
network, that contains HP switches, Cisco routers and Compaq servers.
HPOV is not an option, end user is not UNIX guru, and network is Win2k
based.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread dre

Ethereal on Win32 is a great after-the-fact debugging/analysis tool
Probably the best.  My favorite part is not only does it open pcap
files, but also GZIPPED pcap files.  It supports a TON of protocols.
http://www.ethereal.com/

However, as for actual packet capture and backend statistics and
organization, I think tcpdump (and associated tools) on *BSD with
full BPF is light years ahead of anything else.  It's the only code out
there given significant attention by the internet community for years.
Yes, sorry, it's not a GUI by itself, but if you know what you are
doing, you can extend tcpdump to all your packet capture needs
with the help of maybe a few other tools out there.  One only needs
to do a search for tcpdump or pcap on sourceforge or freshmeat or
google or some other search engine.  tcpdump uses the Berkeley
Packet Filter (BPF) and libpcap.  http://www.tcpdump.org/

I have noticed one company that has a most interesting offering,
Niksun, http://www.niksun.com/, has a product called NetVCR
which seems more capable than just a web-based SnifferPro-like tool
The collection and distributed features of the product seem very
useful, it's more of a monitoring/statistics tool that scales to almost
any traffic/bandwidth equation.  This stuff may cost a lot, but it's
definitely light years ahead of Distributed SnifferPro or any other
commercial packet capture tool.

Speaking of scaling to almost any amount of traffic, our next-generation
sniffers are probably going to have to be driven by hardware.  One
currently possibility for this is Foundry's JetCore ASIC in their switch
products.  Foundry is building XRMON and sFlow (http://www.inmon.com/)
software into this chip.  This means you can do packet capture at
multiple Gbps and get the details of every frame across the wire.  Now
you just have to write it to disk...

-dre

Steven A. Ridder  wrote in message
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 Ethereal.  It's been ported from Linux to Win32.  It's lightweight.  But
 it's not perfect and can crash.

 www.ethereal.com

 If you use Windows 2000 or XP, just be sure to install the winpcap diver
2.3
 beta.  Otherwise 2.2 should work.

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RE: Routing Exam 503 [7:31275]

2002-01-08 Thread s vermill

The Cisco Press BSCN book is great.  I highly recommend it.  Do all of the
labs if you can.

The Cert Guide, on the other hand, is outrageously full of errata.  And when
I say errata, I don't just mean misprints (althought there are tons of those
as well).  LSAs and aggregate addresses often are described as going in the
wrong direction.  For example, if I understand the RFC correctly, OSPF type
4 LSAs are generated by ABRs, sent into non-backbone areas, and describe the
ASBRS that are available in the AS.  In the Cert Guide, type 4 LSAs are sent
from the ABRs to ASBRs.  That is done, according to the Cert Guide, so that
the ASBR can send info on summary networks into other routing domains.  So
on and so on.  Worst part of all is that the book is in its fourth printing
and nothing has been done to fix it and there is no errata sheet on the
Cisco Press web site.

Having said all of that, the book is still borderline useful, but only if
you already really know your stuff so you can see the many errors.

I also read the Exam Cram book.  It is a nice review but is very top-level,
as you might expect.

By the way, it is a myth that COLT exams are gone.  I just tried one the
other day.


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Call Manager 3.1 [7:31335]

2002-01-08 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I'm wondering if I can load CallManager 3.1 on any
Compaq server or I have to buy from Cisco? I got error
message This application may only be installed on
servers that were deployed using the standard
Cisco-approved process when I tried to install it.

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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help on acl setup [7:31336]

2002-01-08 Thread Jinsoo

Hello all,

I have a question regarding acl setup. I have a network addr to deny access
on odd ip addr and permit even ip addr in telnetting. Can anyone tell me how
to setup?

Thanks
Jin




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Re: Call Manager 3.1 [7:31335]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Technically you must buy from cisco, but I've seen other ways of getting it
lo load


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 Hello,

 I'm wondering if I can load CallManager 3.1 on any
 Compaq server or I have to buy from Cisco? I got error
 message This application may only be installed on
 servers that were deployed using the standard
 Cisco-approved process when I tried to install it.

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: ATM with 7200 and IMA with CES [7:29368]

2002-01-08 Thread GS ELSIDDIG

Thanks Dave.
There is no problem is assigning a single link to the min active IMA links.
This will indeed allow you to utilize one link per IMA group. But that is
not the problem.
If the carrier doesn't support IMA (i.e. terminating the circuit to a T1
card and not a cell relay card with IMA support), all you will see is:
status is up while the line protocol is down.
That's why you will need to use pass through mode.

Thanks

- Original Message -
From: MADMAN 
To: GS 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: ATM with 7200 and IMA with CES [7:29368]



  Actually I have done serveral IMA configs utilizing regular ole T1
 circuits and you only need a single subnet if you configure an IMA
 interface and assign the interfaces to it via the ima group.

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/121/paima.html

   Dave

 GS wrote:
 
  You should ask you carrier what type of cards they are terminating the
T1
  lines to. Most carriers support IMA and all u need is properly configure
  your IMA group. If however you carrier have delivered three T1 in the
form
  of three separate local loops and they are terminating your access to T1
  cards then you have to:
  load balance/Share on ur 7200 using L3 ( such as equal cost load
balancing
  through static routes or whatever).
  The problem of this setup is that it each local loop is required to have
it
  own subnet.
  You will have to configure your ATM-IMA adaptor in what we call
pass-through
  mode (which necessarily implies that each port functions as an
individual T1
  port without the benefits of IMA).
 
  The IMA-Mux you're looking for is useless for your case.. since all the
IMA
  mux do is take a single input (normally E10) and delivers an inverse
muxed
  stream (meaning ATM cells belonging to the same connection split over
  several outgoing links)
 
  If ur carrier is doing the latter I suggest u save ur self the headache
and
  dump them :-
 
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   Hi group,
  
   I have a few 7200 with ATM-CES adapters in them.  I
   want to depoly them over WAN with a 4.5 meg bandwidth
   to each.  The telco handed to us 3 T1s.  I would
   assume an IMA device of some kind is needed here.
   However, I still want to use the existing ATM-CES
   adapters for this case.  How would I set this up if I
   use a Cisco IMA adapter?  Are there any other external
   IMA mux besides the cisco's IMA adapter that I can use
   with my atm-ces module, and are less than $5000?
  
   I'm new to ATM, so any input would be greatly
   appreciated.
  
   Adam
  
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Re: Call Manager 3.1 [7:31335]

2002-01-08 Thread trammer

Steven is correct.

There are ways of getting CCM to load on non-certified platforms, but is
obviously is not supported whatsoever by TAC.

We utilize a configuration such as this in our traveling demo pod for
customer demos on IP Telephony.  I personally worked with some of our local
Cisco SE's in getting a blessing of sorts on our config for this type of
install.  We were specifically told not to repeat what we were doing simply
because of the fact that quality at times can be severely affected when CCM
and Unity are run on lower powered boxes or laptops, and Cisco does not need
customers trying to mess around with these sort of things.

I'm limited in what I will say about this, since I am a firm supporter of
customers using certified hardware, especially when dealing with voice,
where quality is always under scrutiny.


That's my two cents worth at least.


Cheers.


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 lo load


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  Hello,
 
  I'm wondering if I can load CallManager 3.1 on any
  Compaq server or I have to buy from Cisco? I got error
  message This application may only be installed on
  servers that were deployed using the standard
  Cisco-approved process when I tried to install it.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Update: BECN vs TCP congesttion control [7:31219]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

So I guess frame-relay assumes a smart network/dumb host type situation?

The only other thing I saw was Fred's statement

...None of these companies had much IP experience at the time, and it was
mostly X.25-experienced people working on it.  So the congestion issues
needed to be brought out.  I was working for a company that sold
connectionless networks, and we KNEW about congestion and the possibilities
of congestion collapse.  (Firsthand experience with congestion collapse in
the eary '80s was a very good learning experience.)...

What does he mean when he speaks about congestion collapse?  Was this the
case in a dumb network where too many calls would just bring it down?  Did
this bring up the need to create fecn/becn as a sort of next-generation type
thing to correct the problems they may have experienced in previous type
networks?

Was there a parallel, but opposite school of thought in the TCP/IP networks
(I guess the Internet and ARPANET) of a smart host/dumb network where the
hosts and rotuters would handle congestion with TCP and ICMP source quench
messages and the such?  If I can assume that there were two schools of
thought, can I also assume that frame-relay with it's smart network/dumb
host model and tcp/ip's smart host, peer-to-peer network were never meant to
merge?

Also, what effect does becn/fecn (if implemented) have on TCP/IP's
windowing?  Any?  Should the two never be used together, or can they
co-exist peacefully if implemented right?

Sorry to ask all these questions, but this is like a history lesson to me
(IP was RFC'd in 1981, so I was 3 years old) and I learn best if I can get a
grasp on not only how things are done, but why.


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FW: CCIE preparation [7:31305]

2002-01-08 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Just yesturday I was putting something together for someone who used my
boson to pass the written. Most of it is just  some of the common wisdom
from the history of this group.  Here's what I had, and I welcome feedback
(and good hearted abuse) from the group...

 my first draft follows --

Read um and Weep

Here's the short list of books I would recommend to read (at a minimum)
during your lab preparation.  Find yourself a shady spot outside, and crack
the spine of each of these page-turners, it's the only chance you'll have to
see the sun for a few months:
7   Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs, Second
Edition by Andrew Bruce Caslow
7   Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition by Bassam Halabi 
7   CCIE Prof. Development Routing TCP/IP Volumes I  II, Jeff Doyle
7   Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE professional development)
7   Cisco Catalyst LAN Switching by Louis R Rossi, Louis D. Rossi,
Thomas Rossi
7   Configuring Cisco Routers for bridging, DLSW+,  Desktop Protocols
by Tan Nam-Kee
7   My own lab prep book, once I finish writing it (look for it sometime
in 2003)... J


Building your own Pod:

One of the most important elements of your CCIE lab preparation is having
equipment to practice on.  My advice would be put together a home pod
watching every dollar very carefully, and then sell it on ebay when you're
done.  If you do everything right, your practice time should only cost you
the interest on your credit card, and the depreciation in the value of the
equipment.  What follows is a list of what I think has the makings of a
great CCIE Lab practice pod:
7   One Cisco 2511 router to use as a terminal server. A 2509 would work
fine if you have one, but trust me, before long you'll need the extra ports.
7   A router with multiple Serial ports to use as a Frame Relay switch.
Cisco 2522's are popular for this, although in my own lab I use a 2610 with
an 8-port serial module. 
7   Two Cisco 2503's.
7   One Cisco 2504 (for the FatKid labs).
7   Four or five more Cisco 2500 series routers with a selection of
Serial, Ethernet and Token Ring ports, (I love 2513's, because they have all
three).
7   One ISDN emulator. 
7   One Cat2924XL or Cat5k Switch.
7   One Cisco 3620 or 2620 with at least one Fast Ethernet port and a
pair of FXS ports for VoIP.
7   Two CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC. These 8-lead octal cables (68 pin to 8 male
RJ-45s) are used with the terminal server
7   One MAU.
7   Lots of DTE/DCE serial cables, AUI adapters, patch cables, and
crossover cables.

* Please note that all 2500 series routers should have 16 Megs of memory, 16
Megs of Flash and be loaded with an Enterprise Version of 12.1 IOS
appropriate to its physical configuration.

The only things missing from the list above is ATM and a Token Ring switch.
I consider ATM just too darn expensive for a home pod, and a 3920 is hard to
get, expensive, and easy to configure.  For both these technologies, I would
recommend renting some on-line lab time.


OK, The Equipment Looks Good on the Rack, Now What?

You'll also need practice labs to run on your routers.  Here's a list of lab
materials I think are useful, in order of complexity (easiest to hardest):
7   Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide, Second Edition by Stephen Hutnik and
Michael Satterlee
7   www.FatKid.com (these have the added advantage of being free)
7   www.solutionlabs.com
7   www.IPExpert.net
7   ccbootcmp


Advice on Preparation:

Know the CD.  When you're in the lab, this will be one of your few friends.
Know where the command reference are, and most importantly, know where the
sample configurations are.  Think how much time you can save if you
cut-and-paste samples from the CD into your configurations.

Print out and keep posted on the wall a copy of the exam blueprint.  This
should be a constant reminder of what you know, and what's left to figure
out.

Avoid first time pressure.  Only a small percentage of people pass on the
first attempt, and your four digit number is not de-valued if you make
several attempts.  Prepare for what you expect the exam to be, but be ready
to accept the first attempt as exploratory expedition; a chance to map the
terrain for future trips.   Who knows; the extra calm of reduced
expectations may actually help you pass.

Watch the news feeds at www.groupstudy.com, these are excellent free
resources.  People are always posting problems, and working out how to help
them not only builds goodwill, but helps develop your own understanding of
these technologies.

Focus on the core technologies; ISDN, Frame Relay, bridging, routing
protocols, redistribution, etc.  These will represent the bulk of the points
in the lab, and you MUST have a very firm understanding of them to have any
chance at all.

Have a bucket of tools at your disposal.  You should have a good grasp of IP
Tunneling, Bridging, NAT, IRB, CRB, route filters, passive 

RE: OT: Sniffers [7:31296]

2002-01-08 Thread Mr CcIePro1

You may want to go to Agilent.com. They have a software version of their
Agilent Advisor hardware box. Its called Advisor Software SW edition. You
can run the 30day demo and see if you like it. In addition, you can buy just
the testing modual you need. (or if you are a valid educational user - the
full version is free)
While you are there you can subscribe to their free networking solutions
ebook. (under promotions)
Later
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RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]

2002-01-08 Thread PacketEXPERTS

Sure anything can be done. However I am thinking that you would need them to
log into your server, at that point you remove rights.
However, you would also need to turn of screen captures.  That means that at
the point that log in you turn off certen keys strokes on their key board.
I am thinking that you need a program to do that or a c++ programer, but I
am sure it can be done
  Pierre-Alex J. Guanel  wrote: Thank you!

Pierre-Alex

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel
Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


Ain't no way PIX will do this.

Content filtering refers to looking at the files going across it
and possibly blocking them pending their content - ie if
they are porn or come from suspect sites - not what
the user does with them once they've got them. Even if this
was doing what you wanted it requires an extra server (the
content filtering server) which I think is about $8k - a lot.

Without control over the desktops I can't see how you can achieve
what you're trying to do. The only possible exception is that if
the users were using a browser and viewing content on a server
you control. You might then be able to do something with activeX etc
(ie disable the save as function) in the browser.

Andy



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To: Andy Leaning 
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:59 PM
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 Hi Andy,

 Thank for the answer.

 I have no control over the users' desktop, therefore I cannot remove the
 write permission on their machines. The solution has to be implemented on
 the server. Also, I thought that the latest PIX were doing content
filtering
  If not, I am surprised that Cisco does not support this feature.

 Pierre-Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Leaning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:54 AM
 To: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel
 Subject: Re: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


 PIX can't prevent this - this application layer stuff - but you can do it
 in Windows.

 Simply remove write permission on the desktop folder for the logged on
user.
 Of course they can still put the file elsewhere on the PC, I'd need to
know
 more
 if you want this stopped as well.

 Andy Leaning



 - Original Message -
 From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel 
 Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:19 PM
 Subject: RE: Permissions: read but don't copy [7:31128]


  Can a Cisco firewall do this?
 
  Pierre-Alex
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex J. Guanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Permissions: read but don't copy
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am running Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
 
  I would like to allow users (Windows 98 / Windows 2000 Professional) to
 read
  a file,
 
  but prevent them to copy it electronically to their desktop. It looks
like
  Windows 2000 does not
 
  have the permissions to accomplish this. Has anyone done this before?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Pierre-Alex
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Re: What equip is really necessary for lab studies [7:31295]

2002-01-08 Thread EA Louie

Everyone asks this question, but the answer, Young Skywalker, comes from
within.  ;-)

The answer is It depends.  Ask yourself these questions and you'll
probably come up with the answer that's right for you:

1.  Where are my weak points technically?  (My answers were Token Ring and
ISDN, so that's where I spent my money)
2.  How much am I willing to risk going into the lab?  (If you don't have a
lot of experience with ISDN, for example, is it worth not having a lot of
ISDN time knowing that it could cost you points on the exam?)
3.  What's my level of experience with the technologies that I can just
review versus the ones I need to practice over and over again?

If you're weak on everything, then buy everything with the context that
you're just renting it until you pass your exam.  It may give you the needed
motivation to get the studying job done quicker.  And then, once you've
passed, resell the equipment at that present market value (in other words,
don't expect to recoup your investment, because price erosion on equipment
is a reality - just ask our friends on the list who paid $1000 for a 2501 a
few short years ago).

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Michael Witte 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: What equip is really necessary for lab studies? [7:31295]


 Hello all;
   I know the equipment subject has been discussed many times in this
group,
 I have followed many of the threads. Of course it would be nice to buy
every
 piece of equipment on the CCIE lab list but sometimes that is not
practical
 for people that have kids to feed. Anyway I would like some input on what
I
 equipment I really need to concentrate on. Right now I have a 2523 for my
 frame-relay switch, a 2524,2504,2 2610's and 2 1900's. All have latest IOS
 and is sufficient for doing most OSPF, BGP and anything else. I was
planning
 on getting a 2513 for translation bridging, and a 5500 and 2620 so I can
do
 a router on a stick and VLAN stuff. I am 99% sure I need fast ethernet to
do
 ISL and inter-VLAN routing hence the 5500 and 2620. I realized yesterday
 that the 4500 can support fast ethernet and token ring so instead of the
 2513 and 2620 I can use this. I am also planning on getting a Teletone
 simulator for ISDN. As far a VOIP,ATM,and the 3900 I was going to use some
 rack time for practice. Here is what I need input on:
 1)5500 and 4500 for inter-Vlan routing and VTP-  Can I get away with rack
 time?
 2)ISDN simulator- Again can I get away with rack time?
 3)VOIP,ATM,3900 -rack time?
I just got the new CCIE Practical studies Part1 and don't see much
 inter-VLAN routing. I looks like a great book I only got it yesterday and
 its worth a look. They are going to put out volume2 which will go into BGP
 and IPX more. I assume Inter-VLAN routing be covered in the lab, just how
 much? If the recommendation from everyone is to get the equipment I will,I
 would rather spend it on a bootcamp a month before the LAB. I plan on
taking
 the lab in Sept, but I want to nail down the equipment so I can have one
 less thing on my mind. I have access to a lot of equipment at work I just
 can't play that much. Thanks in advance everyone!
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Re: IPv6 [7:31228]

2002-01-08 Thread Brian Whalen

.bomb failures have lengthened the usefulness of v4 I am sure..

Brian Sonic Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Steven A. Ridder wrote:

 Another question,

 When's IPv6 gonna hit the mainstream?   Or the backbone?  Of all the stuff
I
 ever read on it, the main reason it came into play was because of the
 impending depletion of public addresses.  Well with NAT, firewall and other
 proxy services handiling a lot of requests onto the public internet, the
 depletion has been put out a few years (actually, does anyone have any good
 like, studies pointing out when this is supposed to happen now?).  So what
 else is going to drive the adoption of IPv6?

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Re: What equip is really necessary for lab studies [7:31295]

2002-01-08 Thread Nick S.

Further to what EA Louie.. 

If you are strong on ISDN, you could connect aux-modem-modem-aux, specify
dialer profiles and work with it, u will need 2 pstn lines and most of the
trigger stuff which works with ISDN will work.

Also, you need enough equipment to practise most of IP routing protocols
scenario's. rest of the things can be practised on racks (ATM/VOIP etc.)

Nick


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Re: What equip is really necessary for lab studies [7:31295]

2002-01-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

You can always go to Cisco and use thier racks for free.  If I need a few
days on a big router or ATM, I use their stuff.  (I could never justify
purchasing all the equipment some people have -72xx routers, Cat 6500
switches, Wireless AP's, etc..)  You just need to have your CCIE written
passed.  Call your account manager - he'll help you out.  Plus, they have
more inside info on all differnt things related to Cisco in case you need
their help, or just want to know what on the road-map.

Another cool thing we have at my company is an actual telephone switch (it's
small though because it was designed for classroom training).  It simulates
T1 lines, ISDN, etc.  Look for one of those.  It beats crossover cables.



Nick S.  wrote in message
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 Further to what EA Louie..

 If you are strong on ISDN, you could connect aux-modem-modem-aux, specify
 dialer profiles and work with it, u will need 2 pstn lines and most of the
 trigger stuff which works with ISDN will work.

 Also, you need enough equipment to practise most of IP routing protocols
 scenario's. rest of the things can be practised on racks (ATM/VOIP etc.)

 Nick




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Re: CCIE counters, r they going up? [7:31318]

2002-01-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I don't see a lot of announcements over on the CCIE list - just a couple in
December, and none so far this month, unless I missed something.

OTOH, I see that #8472 announced on 12/1 and #8548 announced on 12/18.
that's the most recent I have seen.

Not surprising with the holidays.

I am not at the computer that has my history table on it.

Chuck


Kane, Christopher A.  wrote in message
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 Someone on the list (I think it was Chuck) used to try and keep track of
how
 many new IE numbers they saw each week. I was wondering, with the new lab,
 how many on avg are passing ea. week or month. Just curious.

 Chris




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Frame Relay too slow [7:31346]

2002-01-08 Thread Anthony Toh

This is a project I am doing. I am using 3 Cisco 2600 series routers to link
two sites and Adtran Atlas 550 to simulate a Frame Relay and a ISDN line (as
backup) network. The arrangement is this:

server PC--router--router--Frame Relay(Atlas)--router--client PC
  |ISDN___|

My problem is : When the client PC download file from the server PC, the
transmitting speed is very slow (about 15KB/sec). The transmit starts with a
speed of about 70KB/sec and then slowly drops to 15KB/sec. Appreciate for
any suggestion(s).

Anthony.


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RE: Frame Relay too slow [7:31346]

2002-01-08 Thread Anthony Toh

The placement of the ISDN line is not correct due to the aligment. Sorry for
that.

Anthony.


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Re: Call Manager 3.1 [7:31335]

2002-01-08 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

Hi Jim,
Just received  Cisco AVVID IP Telephony Networks book,
and according to that book, Cisco has certified Compaq DL320
and Compaq DL380 to run CallManager. Refer to this URL
regarding the approved hardware for Compaq ProLiant
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/avvid/products/cmpq_srvrs.html

HTH

 Hello,

 I'm wondering if I can load CallManager 3.1 on any
 Compaq server or I have to buy from Cisco? I got error
 message This application may only be installed on
 servers that were deployed using the standard
 Cisco-approved process when I tried to install it.

 Thanks in advance.

 Jim

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IGRP Subnet mask issues [7:31349]

2002-01-08 Thread Aamer Kaleem

I have two routers. One of them is running IGRP,BGP and OSPF and other is
running IGRP only.
The network between two IGRP routers is 30 bit mask.  Here is the diagram:

IGRP/BGP/OSPF IGRP

R1-R2
10.3.255.10/3010.3.255.9/30

R1 has some 24 bit 10-netorks directly connected to it as well. I have
following IGRP configuration

R1:
router igrp 1
redistribute ospf 1 
redistribute bgp 65430
network 10.0.0.0
default-metric 10 100 255 255 1500

R2:
router igrp 1
network 10.0.0.0


10.0.0.0/24 networks won't show up in the routing table of R2. 
Could someone explain why it is happening what is the fix.

Thank you,
Aamer


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Re: Router down for a few seconds, many times [7:31308]

2002-01-08 Thread Brian Whalen

Got logging setup somewhere looking for errors that correspond with this?

Brian Sonic Whalen
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On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, show log would be a good start.
 You haven't given us much to go on, but if the interfaces don't actually
 drop it could be a routing protocol problem.  Or it could be a lot of other
 things :-)
 Does this happen at specific times?  Regular intervals?  Or is it random?
 Is there anything else happening on your network that you can correlate
 with this?
 What does the log show?  Hopefully that will give you an idea of what to
 look at.  You may then need to put on some debugs to get further
 information.  Use debugs cautiously or they can hang a perfectly healthy
 router!

 JMcL
 - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 09/01/2002 09:02 am -


 NetEng

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a
 few seconds, many
 nobody@groupstudy.times
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 09/01/2002
 06:36

 am
 Please respond
 to

 NetEng






 I have a Cisco 4000 in the core that goes down for 15 seconds or so about
 10
 times a day. All interfaces are unreachable (pinging), and from what I can
 tell the actual interfaces never actually drop. I will console into it, but
 any ideas what I can look for? show processes and ?TIA




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Re: Update: BECN vs TCP congesttion control [7:31219]

2002-01-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:58 PM 1/8/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
If I can assume that there were two schools of
thought, can I also assume that frame-relay with its smart network/dumb
host model and tcp/ip's smart host, peer-to-peer network were never meant to
merge?

I think it would be over-stating it a bit to say they were never meant to 
merge. ;-) TCP/IP has to run on top of something to be useful and Frame 
Relay has to have something above it to be useful.


Also, what effect does becn/fecn (if implemented) have on TCP/IP's
windowing?  Any?  Should the two never be used together, or can they
co-exist peacefully if implemented right?

In most cases TCP congestion control behaves independently of BECN and 
FECN. I don't think Cisco routers even have a way to let TCP end hosts know 
that BECN or FECN have been set, although there may be some advanced 
features that handle this and/or interact with RED or something. Anyone 
else know? Thanks.


Sorry to ask all these questions, but this is like a history lesson to me
(IP was RFC'd in 1981, so I was 3 years old) and I learn best if I can get a
grasp on not only how things are done, but why.


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Re: IGRP Subnet mask issues [7:31349]

2002-01-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

considering how often and to what depth this issue has been and continues to
be discussed here and elsewhere, it shouldn't be too hard to discover the
answer.

try changing your network on the R1-R2 link to a /24 and see what happens.
then report back your findings along with your own speculation.

HTH

chuck


Aamer Kaleem  wrote in message
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 I have two routers. One of them is running IGRP,BGP and OSPF and other is
 running IGRP only.
 The network between two IGRP routers is 30 bit mask.  Here is the diagram:

 IGRP/BGP/OSPF IGRP

 R1-R2
 10.3.255.10/3010.3.255.9/30

 R1 has some 24 bit 10-netorks directly connected to it as well. I have
 following IGRP configuration

 R1:
 router igrp 1
 redistribute ospf 1
 redistribute bgp 65430
 network 10.0.0.0
 default-metric 10 100 255 255 1500

 R2:
 router igrp 1
 network 10.0.0.0


 10.0.0.0/24 networks won't show up in the routing table of R2.
 Could someone explain why it is happening what is the fix.

 Thank you,
 Aamer




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PIX with no NAT [7:31353]

2002-01-08 Thread Philip Sousa

I've been on Cisco's site for hours, but cannot find a conclusive answer to
my question.  When you disable NAT (NAT 0) to allow the use of public IP's
behind the PIX, are the internal nodes allowed to start outbound connections
by default??  I need to selectively allow nodes behind the firewall to start
outbound connections on certain porthow should I accomplish this? 
Access-lists?


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Re: IGRP Subnet mask issues [7:31349]

2002-01-08 Thread Murtaza Syed

In general, you will not want to redistribute most BGP routes into your IGP.
A common design is to redistribute one or two routes and to make them
exterior routes
in IGRP, or have your BGP speaker generate a default route for your
autonomous system. When redistributing from BGP into IGP, only the routes
learned using
EBGP get redistributed. EBGP default administrative distance is 20 vs IGRP's
100.

Make sure you meant IGRP and not EIGRP, if it is EIGRP then run no
auto-summary to see the subnets.

Regards,

Murtaza

P.S.: some more info from cisco site
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/21.html






- Original Message -
From: Aamer Kaleem 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:10 PM
Subject: IGRP Subnet mask issues [7:31349]


 I have two routers. One of them is running IGRP,BGP and OSPF and other is
 running IGRP only.
 The network between two IGRP routers is 30 bit mask.  Here is the diagram:

 IGRP/BGP/OSPF IGRP

 R1-R2
 10.3.255.10/3010.3.255.9/30

 R1 has some 24 bit 10-netorks directly connected to it as well. I have
 following IGRP configuration

 R1:
 router igrp 1
 redistribute ospf 1
 redistribute bgp 65430
 network 10.0.0.0
 default-metric 10 100 255 255 1500

 R2:
 router igrp 1
 network 10.0.0.0


 10.0.0.0/24 networks won't show up in the routing table of R2.
 Could someone explain why it is happening what is the fix.

 Thank you,
 Aamer




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RE: Lab Equipments [7:31040]

2002-01-08 Thread Taco Hettema

Hello Ejay,

I allso have a AGS with serial-ports, but I havent been able to get
these working. Can you tell me which cables you are using (part-number,
pinout or where you bought them) and if you changed anything on the
configuration of the AGS (Jumper eg)?

Thanx

Taco

-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: maandag 7 januari 2002 15:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Lab Equipments [7:31040]

I have a 4-serial-port Cisco AGS I've been using as a Frame-Relay Switch
I'd
like to sell.  $150.00
Also, I have the dte-dce cables to connect it to anything that uses a
HD-60
serial port. (25xx  4xxx series, as well as anything that takes a
Wic-1t
card.)

-Original Message-
From: Prabhat Sen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 8:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Equipments [7:31040]


Hi Guys,


Want to set up a home lab. I have listed some stuff
that is should have. 

 3x2501 routers; 1x2522 or 2523; 3x2502/2504 routers

 A Cat5K switch or a 2900 (non XL); 1 TokenRing

 One ISDN Simulator; Token Ring Mau x 2; Token Ring
NIC/Cables x 2;
 
 Probably two Cisco 2602 or maybe 4700/4500/3620 

 Token Ring  3920 

Will adding an Intel Intelligent Server Adaptor be
helpful ?


Anything that i missed out.  Pls send me your
feedback, so that i can complete the set. Any ideas
from where i can buy this cheap? Awaiting your
feedback,

Thanks,
Prabhat


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Re: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]

2002-01-08 Thread Cisco Breaker

Your only choice is to use global username other router and  password the
sama as your router they must be identical on both sides.

bergenpeak  wrote in message
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 sent-username is not an option for me under ppp chap.  My
 options at ppp chap are hostname, password, wait, and
 refuse.

 Thanks


 McCallum, Robert wrote:
 
  what about ppp chap sent-username ?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: bergenpeak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 January 2002 13:09
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PPP link negotiation problem [7:31132]
 
  I'm working through the different ways one can configure CHAP
  authentication between two routers over a PPP serial link.
 
  If I configure ppp encap and ppp chap authentication and both sides
  of the link and use the global:
 
  username  password
 
  for identification, the link comes up and IPCP is established.  The
  routers have hostnames defined to be rtr-2505 and rtr-2514.
 
  When I try to use the simpler CHAP config, where one can encode
  in the interface directly the same hostname and password, I see
  the error:
 
  PPP Serial0: Using alternative CHAP hostname something
  PPP Serial0: CHAP Challenge id=14 received from something
  PPP Serial0: ignoring challenge with local name
 
  On both rtrs I have the following defined on the serial interface:
  ppp encap
  ppp authentication chap
  ppp chap hostname something
  ppp chap password else
 
  there are no usernames defined globally.
 
  Ideas?
 
  Thanks




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Re: IGRP Subnet mask issues [7:31349]

2002-01-08 Thread Aamer Kaleem

Chuck,

Changing the IGRP interfaces to /24 bit solves the problem. IGRP matches the
incoming routes with its own interface Subnet mask and rejects the one which
does not match.

So, how to fix it without changing the IGRP interfaces mask.

Thanx,

Aamer


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