back 2 back cable [7:47120]

2002-06-21 Thread Peter I. Racz

Hello group,

would somebody happen to know the pin layout and of the b2b db60 cable?
Do we in the home lab utilize all the pins which are connected? With 
other words: could we make thinner b2b cables?
Which signals are on which pin would be also interesting.

Thanks in advance,

Peter I. Racz




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Re: BGP Prefix List Question [7:47117]

2002-06-21 Thread Chuck

Easy enough

ge = greater than or equal to

le = less than or equal to

10 is greater than or equal to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

10 is less than or equal to 15,14,13,12,11,10

in your example, you are stating that you want to permit subnets of
11.11.11.0/24 with some value. If you were to say ge 26 le 30 then this
would permit any subnet of 11.11.11.0 with a subnet mask of /26, /27, /28,
/29, or /30

It takes a little study to get the idea. the command reference on CCO is
worth spending some time with. Even better is to set up a couple of routers,
put a whole bunch of different subnets on one of them, and filter the routes
to the other router using a prefix list. after a while spent looking at the
routing tables, you will get the idea.

HTH

Chuck


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 Could someone explain to me what the ge and le options are used for in
a
 prefix list statement?
 Example: ip prefix-list MYLIST permit 11.11.11.0/24 ge le

 Thanks!

 Dain Deutschman
 CNA, MCP, CCNA
 Data Communications Manager
 New Star Sales and Service, Inc.




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Chuck

would somebody just change some settings on an external CSU/DSU and report
the results? Who cares if it's a production network? It's getting towards
midnight, it'll only take a couple of minutes, and the suits are all asleep!
;-


John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 This isn't quite true.  For example, a DCE router interface will be
 down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device.  I see this quite
 often at work and faulty cabling is generally not the culprit.  It's
 almost always bad hardware in the DTE.

 John

 Michael L. Williams wrote:
  According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
  down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable
connected.
  So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least
see
  up/down.
 
  Mike W.
 
  Bob Timmons  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
 
 I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router
doesn't
 care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte
 
  device.
 
 If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable,
you
 should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
 
  condition
 
 of the line.
 
 I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can do
 
  that
 
 tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior
to
 that...
 
 
 
 Hi Priscilla,
 
 I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
 
  Telco's
 
 misconfiguration.
 Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
 which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
 all of the different combinations available at the router you will
 get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
 
 down/down).
 
 I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
 believe
 either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least
that
 
 is
 
 all I've
 ever worked with.
 
 Hope this helps,
 -TV
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 Hi Group Study,
 
 While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
 questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
 A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good
 
  V.35
 
 cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
 
 been
 
 misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
 doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
 
 CSU/DSU
 
 that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
 
  router.)
 
 Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
 And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
 misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
 If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
 
 read
 
 the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
 
 Thanks
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: Book: CCIE Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols [7:47099]

2002-06-21 Thread Dave Swink

It has some nice flow charts.  They make the logical sequence of
troubleshooting steps easier to understand.  It helped me nail down a
multicast routing problem the first day I had it.

Dave Swink

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Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols (CCIE Professional Development Series)
by Shamim, Aziz, Liu, and Martey.



Does anyone have any feedback about this book? Is it good???



Thanks for any help!!!




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RE: New Book for CIT [7:47009]

2002-06-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Having just written the new 606 exam today, I can tell you for a fact that
the 506 book is still valid. But what is more important is the knowledge
learned from doing the foundation (routing,remote access, switching), which
helps with troubleshooting. I still don't see how one can troubleshoot if
you don't have the theory bedded down well. 

This exam was tough for me. BSCI was easier in my opinion. Maybe it's
because I never paid to much attention to this book and all the small print.
I passed by about two questions I think, and the exams are still in the
format of the old exams with a few changes of course. Based on the questions
though, I can safely say ... don't take it lightly anymore. I had a guy who
was writing CCNA next to me, and he didn't pass. I think those exams
probably look like the one's they show on the cisco website.

Well, now I start again with my CCNP books, this time to make notes after
cross-referencing the CCIE level books.


Manish
Newly minted CCNP!

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The outlines are identical...So any material for 640-506 is still valid.

Dan

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Subject: New Book for CIT [7:47009]

To All,

I know they are changing all the courses.  Does anyone know what book I
should use for the new CIT course (640-606).

thanks
Mike




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VPN CLIENT + Dns [7:47125]

2002-06-21 Thread Smart Student

Hi All Guru's ,


I Need to config  dns servers entries for all the VPN clients that login to 
VPN concentrator but after adding the entries in the appropiate group
configuartions also I have not being able to set any dns entries on the VPN
client machines .Can anybody out their suggest me what I am doing wrong.


 


 


regards,


Bharat


 
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RE: Multicasting software [7:47056]

2002-06-21 Thread SAM Meng Wai

Hi,

Anyone know whether to get test Multicasting software 
for windows version. I believe iperf can do it in Unix
but not in windows.

Thanks
Rgds,
Sam

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I wrote a program called mint that can do this very thing.  

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mc-mint/



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 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:29 AM
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 Subject: Multicasting software [7:47056]
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 Someone was looking for some software to test multicasting feature on
 routers/switches.  Can you please let me know where can I 
 also get that
 software!  I can't remember who requested that info before, please add
 me in the loop.
 
 
 
 Thanks...Nabil
 
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Re: FW: EIGRP Neighbor issue [7:47112]

2002-06-21 Thread Rod Rodericks

Look thru this data...

7. Troubleshooting EIGRP.

Troubleshooting EIGRP Neighbor Relationships. Consulting the EIGRP Log for
Neighbor Changes. EIGRP Neighbor

Problem-Cause: Unidirectional Link. EIGRP Neighbor Problem-Cause: Uncommon
Subnet. Misconfiguration of the IP Address on the Interfaces. Primary and
Secondary IP Addresses of the Neighboring Interface Don't Match. Switch or
Hub Between EIGRP Neighbor Connection Is Misconfigured or Is Leaking.
Multicast Packets to Other Ports. EIGRP Neighbor Problem-Cause: Mismatched
Masks. EIGRP Neighbor Problem-Cause: Mismatched K Values. EIGRP Neighbor
Problem- Cause: Mismatched AS Number. EIGRP Neighbor Problem-Cause: Stuck in
Active. Reviewing the EIGRP DUAL Process. Determining Active/Stuck in Active
Routes with show ip eigrp topology active. Methodology for Troubleshooting
the Stuck in Active Problem. Troubleshooting EIGRP Route Advertisement.
EIGRP Is Not Advertising Routes to Neighbors When the Network Administrators
Think That It Should. EIGRP Is Not Advertising Routes to Its
Neighbors-Cause: Distribute List. EIGRP Is Not Advertising Routes to Its
Neighbors-Cause: Discontiguous Networks. EIGRP Is Not Advertising Routes to
Neighbors-Cause: Split-Horizon Issues. EIGRP Is Advertising Routes to
Neighbors When the Network Administrators Think That It Shouldn't. EIGRP Is
Advertising Routes with Unexpected Metric. Troubleshooting EIGRP Route
Installation. EIGRP Is Not Installing Routes-Cause: Auto or Manual
Summarization. EIGRP Is Not Installing Routes-Cause: Higher Administrative
Distance. EIGRP Is Not Installing Routes-Cause: Duplicate Router Ids.
Troubleshooting EIGRP Route Flapping. Troubleshooting EIGRP Route
Summarization. EIGRP Summarization Route Problem-Cause: Subnetworks of
Summary Route Don't Exist in Routing Table. EIGRP Summarization Route
Problem-Cause: Too Much Summarization. Troubleshooting EIGRP Redistribution
Problems. Troubleshooting EIGRP Dial Backup Problem. EIGRP Error Messages.
Summary.







hope it helps





Rod



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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:21 AM
Subject: RE: FW: EIGRP Neighbor issue [7:47112]


 It's actually still a benefit to you though.  When you have an issue like
 that, and go through 'everything' and then finally figure it out, it
sticks
 with you much better than someone simply handing you the answer on a
platter.

 Good Luck!




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CCIE tips... [7:47128]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul Blake

have you recently taken the CCIE lab, failed and would rather not repeat
your failure ? me too.

I'm looking to exchange tips and issues encountered with anybody who has
also recently taken the lab.

Drop me a mail (not to the group) and we'll go from there.

regards
Paul




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OSPF, when is it time for more than area 0 (try 2) [7:47129]

2002-06-21 Thread bergenpeak

I've got a rather large OSPF area 0 network with no non-zero
areas.  This network will continue to grow both in number of
network elements and number of subnets on these routers.
 
What commands, and specifically, what information provided by
these commands, will give me insight as to whether these routers
are nearing the point, from a routing perspective, that its time
to segement the network in some fashion?

Thanks




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serial interface down/down or up/down - answers questions [7:47130]

2002-06-21 Thread Nigel Taylor

John, All,

Actually, both router interfaces(DCE or DTE) will

show down/down if the both ports remain administratively down.:-

Seriously, where I work since alot of our circuit are located in

various locations within a number of our building we make use

of what we call an Automatic Network Control Circuit (ANCC)

system which logically maps our DCE devices from our Demarc

to our NOC equipment area.

Nonetheless, in answering Priscilla's question there is no

one answer to the question. Basically, if the CSU/DSU is

configured with a mismatch on the framing then the router

port will come up/up. If the encoding is mismatched then

this will cause the CSU/DSUs to lose SYNC. Technically

this will cause the router port to continually flap(up/down).

When the CSU/DSU is configured correctly with the

bandwidth(the configuration of the DSO slots(Nx64))

mismatch, this will allow the equipment to SYNC and

the router ports will indicate up/up, however no data

will traverse the link.

 

John, is very correct in that the DTR on the DTE device

has to be asserted for the DCE device and obviously for

the DTE device to indicate an up/up.

Howard, also brings up a good point in that framing and

encoding does relate to layer one. Question? If encoding

and framing are thought of as sub-layers of layer1, then

what parallel can be drawn to other layered tecnologies

 that would allow/indicate an active interface without all the

requirements being met. (i.e ISDN, ATM, and an IP interface)

 

Chuck, I took your comments to heart and took down a

number of of T1 customers to prove my noted few points.:-

I hope youre happy.

Nigel

 From: John Neiberger Reply-To: John Neiberger To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: serial interface down/down or up/down
[7:47101] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 01:42:20 -0400  This isn't quite
true. For example, a DCE router interface will be down/down if DTR is
not raised by the DTE device. I see this quite often at work and faulty
cabling is generally not the culprit. It's almost always bad hardware in
the DTE.  John  Michael L. Williams wrote:   According to CCIE exam
materials, the *only* time the serial will show   down/down is when
there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable connected.   So even if
you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least see  
up/down. Mike W. Bob Timmons wrote in message  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...I can't say I've
ever seen a down/up condition. Up/Down perhaps.I'm sure there
are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router doesn't  care about
encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte device.
   If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the
cable, you  should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the
csu/dsu conditionof the line.I don't have a
csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now. I can do that  
 tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer
prior to  that...Hi Priscilla,I have
actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
Telco'smisconfiguration.  Specifically we were expecting
b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm  which was configured
incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through  all of the
different combinations available at the router you will  get all
combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and   
down/down).I can also confirm, you will not establish
connectivity, regardless. I  believe  either b8zs/esf or sf/ami
are the only valid combinations. At least thatisall
I've  ever worked with.Hope this helps,  -TV   
  Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...Hi Group
Study,While writing some questions for a practice test, I
found myself  questioning what I thought was the right answer.
Here's the scenario:A Cisco router serial interface is
correctly connected with a good V.35cable to the
data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU hasbeen 
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The
framing  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question
refers to aCSU/DSUthat is external to the
router, not one that is built into the router.)Will
the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?   
And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
 misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?If you
have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have   
readthe Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts,
etc.ThanksPriscilla   
Priscilla Oppenheimer 
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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Bob Timmons

Ok, I have a backup frame relay that I can test on.  Here's my findings:

I have an Excalibur ISX5311 connected to a 7206VXR.  We have a full T to the
frame using ESF framing.  The line is up/up.  I modified the framing to D4
(there appears to be no SF?), and checked the line.  It went down/down.  I
was surprised.  I expected up/down.  It was showing DCD  DTS were down.

I then put my framing back and changed the linecode.  We use B8ZS, so I
changed to AMI.  The line then started flapping up/up to down/down.  Again,
when in down/down it was showing DCT  DTS down.

Anything else I should test?

 would somebody just change some settings on an external CSU/DSU and report
 the results? Who cares if it's a production network? It's getting towards
 midnight, it'll only take a couple of minutes, and the suits are all
asleep!
 ;-


 John Neiberger  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  This isn't quite true.  For example, a DCE router interface will be
  down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device.  I see this quite
  often at work and faulty cabling is generally not the culprit.  It's
  almost always bad hardware in the DTE.
 
  John
 
  Michael L. Williams wrote:
   According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
   down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable
 connected.
   So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at
least
 see
   up/down.
  
   Mike W.
  
   Bob Timmons  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  
  I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
  
  I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router
 doesn't
  care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte
  
   device.
  
  If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable,
 you
  should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
  
   condition
  
  of the line.
  
  I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can
do
  
   that
  
  tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior
 to
  that...
  
  
  
  Hi Priscilla,
  
  I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
  
   Telco's
  
  misconfiguration.
  Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't
confirm
  which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going
through
  all of the different combinations available at the router you will
  get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
  
  down/down).
  
  I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless.
I
  believe
  either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least
 that
  
  is
  
  all I've
  ever worked with.
  
  Hope this helps,
  -TV
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  
  Hi Group Study,
  
  While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
  questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the
scenario:
  
  A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good
  
   V.35
  
  cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
  
  been
  
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The
framing
  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
  
  CSU/DSU
  
  that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
  
   router.)
  
  Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
  
  And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do
with
  misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
  
  If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
  
  read
  
  the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
  
  Thanks
  
  Priscilla
  
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com




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serial interface down/down or up/down - answers questions [7:47132]

2002-06-21 Thread Nigel Taylor



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rate limit plz help [7:47133]

2002-06-21 Thread kaushalender

hi group,

I have a customer who has take 64 up link and burstable 128 downlink 
.Problem is that i give sh int command it is showing

  5 minute input rate 148000 bits/sec, 218 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 62000 bits/sec, 36 packets/sec

But i have configure following on serial

interface Serial0/2
mtu 2048
bandwidth 512
  ip address 216.252.243.1 255.255.255.252
  ip access-group 107 in
  ip access-group 107 out
  no ip proxy-arp
  ip wccp web-cache redirect out
  ip wccp web-cache redirect in
  rate-limit input 64000 71680 71680 conform-action transmit 
exceed-action drop
  rate-limit output 64000 131072 131072 conform-action transmit 
exceed-action drop
  encapsulation ppp

can some body help me to tell .why this is happening when i have 
configured 64 kbps on uplick of customer which input traffic for my 
router is showing 148kbps
and out traffic 62 kbps why in traffic is exceeding

Thanx in advance
kaushalender




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Re: rate limit plz help [7:47133]

2002-06-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When you use -

rate-limit input x y z conform-action transmit ,

x is in bytes and y and z are in bits

HTH

Dom.




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hi group,

I have a customer who has take 64 up link and burstable 128 downlink 
.Problem is that i give sh int command it is showing

  5 minute input rate 148000 bits/sec, 218 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 62000 bits/sec, 36 packets/sec

But i have configure following on serial

interface Serial0/2
mtu 2048
bandwidth 512
  ip address 216.252.243.1 255.255.255.252
  ip access-group 107 in
  ip access-group 107 out
  no ip proxy-arp
  ip wccp web-cache redirect out
  ip wccp web-cache redirect in
  rate-limit input 64000 71680 71680 conform-action transmit 
exceed-action drop
  rate-limit output 64000 131072 131072 conform-action transmit 
exceed-action drop
  encapsulation ppp

can some body help me to tell .why this is happening when i have 
configured 64 kbps on uplick of customer which input traffic for my 
router is showing 148kbps
and out traffic 62 kbps why in traffic is exceeding

Thanx in advance
kaushalender




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Tim Potier

I have found a good bit of conflicting information on the causes of
down/down and up/down.  All agree that down/down can be caused by:
1. no cable connection
2. CSU/DSU powered down
Some other reasons, although not consistently referenced in the literature
are:
1. Faulty cable (may also cause up/down)
2. csu/dsu failure (not specify hardware or software)(may also cause up/down)
3. router serial int hardware problem
4. a DCE router interface will be down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE
device

There are a plethora of reasons for up/down

Not sure this clarifies, but hope it helps some


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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I would add a mismatch encap to that list.
HDLC on one side and PPP on the other with show up/down.
Don
- Original Message -
From: Tim Potier 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]


 I have found a good bit of conflicting information on the causes of
 down/down and up/down.  All agree that down/down can be caused by:
 1. no cable connection
 2. CSU/DSU powered down
 Some other reasons, although not consistently referenced in the literature
 are:
 1. Faulty cable (may also cause up/down)
 2. csu/dsu failure (not specify hardware or software)(may also cause
up/down)
 3. router serial int hardware problem
 4. a DCE router interface will be down/down if DTR is not raised by the
DTE
 device

 There are a plethora of reasons for up/down

 Not sure this clarifies, but hope it helps some




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RE: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Leiva, Angel

Priscilla,

Thanks for posting an interesting case. I am planning on testing your
scenarios hands-on during the weekend and post the results by Monday.

You may have already seen it, but I'd suggest that you visit the following
CCO URL for more information on the Serial Interface status you're trying to
clarify.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter15.htm#showinter

Hth,

Angel
MCSE, CCNP-RS, CCNP-WAN


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]


Hi Group Study,

While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:

A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a CSU/DSU
that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)

Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?

And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?

If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.

Thanks

Priscilla



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Apache Cert Advisory [7:47134]

2002-06-21 Thread Clayton Dukes

Just a heads-up for those of you who run web servers. 
A vulnerability has been discovered in Apache web server.

http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-17.html


Clayton Dukes
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC
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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

I have seen down/up, but this was on xGS routers around release 9.x. 
In those cases, it meant there was a main processor hardware (or 
rarely software) failure.




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can some please explain me some of this commands [7:47140]

2002-06-21 Thread GEORGE

Im trying to configure authentication on my routers so far so good ,
however I would not like to have any type of authentication via
console., just in case and also if the tacacs goes down I can still get
in with local account I created.. so far if I place this on the console
line =line con 0 no authentication none
It would let me in , and if I place nothing I get promted for the
username and password on my tacacs , but wont let me enter my enable
password.?
Maybe if I understood each line I could  configure it better...
 
aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default group tacacs+ local
aaa authentication login local local
aaa authentication login no_tacacs none
aaa authentication enable default group tacacs+ none
aaa authorization exec default group tacacs+ none
aaa authorization network default group tacacs+
aaa accounting exec default start-stop group tacacs+
aaa accounting network default start-stop group tacacs+local




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FW: authentication and router [7:46932]

2002-06-21 Thread GEORGE

I wouldn't like any username prompt at the console

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At the password prompt, if you enter your configured enable password you
get
access?

Sounds like it's working as you have it configured, how did you want it
to
work?

Philip

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: authentication and router [7:46932]


I just configured my router to authenticate with cisco secure every
works ok, except if I try to
Console I get a password promt, and I stop cisco secure I get a password
promt
Now I tried to enter my enable password and wont work
Am I missing something here
 
 
 
aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default group tacacs+ enable
aaa authentication login local local
aaa authentication login no_tacacs enable
aaa authentication ppp default if-needed group tacacs+
aaa authorization exec default group tacacs+ local
aaa authorization network default group tacacs+
aaa accounting exec default start-stop group tacacs+
aaa accounting network default start-stop group tacacs+
 
 
 
line con0 
line authentication no_tacacs




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Slightly OT [7:47142]

2002-06-21 Thread Brian Zeitz

Our company purchased some load balancers, they seem to want to use NAT
in every configuration. I don't think it's a great idea to run NAT on an
intranet (which is what our app is going to be). Can anyone suggest a
good load balancer that is good for running on an intranet? Maybe I
should be looking at cisco. The device we are using is Coytote Load
Balancer, Do you think a web switch would be better? Seems this device
is really for dual network design, not an intranet application. I guess
I should be looking at cisco content switches?




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Re: BGP Prefix List Question [7:47117]

2002-06-21 Thread Paulo Roque

I have developed a method.

I draw a generic rule like this:

lenge-value---le-value---32

For the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25  I put  that
values on the rule:

len=24
ge=25 (values greater than 25 marked with *)
le= not present

2425***32

So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25 match the
prefix length from 25 to 32.


For the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 le 28  I put  the
values on the rule:

len=24
ge= not present
le= 28 (values lower than 28 marked with *)

24***2832

So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24  le 28 match the
prefix length from 24 to 28.

===
Finally for the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25 le
28. I put  the values on the rule:
len=24
ge=25
le=28

24--25***28--32

So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24  ge 25 le 28 match
the prefix from 25 to 28.

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Dain Deutschman  escreveu na mensagem
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 Could someone explain to me what the ge and le options are used for in
a
 prefix list statement?
 Example: ip prefix-list MYLIST permit 11.11.11.0/24 ge le

 Thanks!

 Dain Deutschman
 CNA, MCP, CCNA
 Data Communications Manager
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CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-21 Thread David Bennett

I just called prometric and found out that I had
failed the CCIE written beta test i took at the end of
April. I recall some emails going around from people
that couldn't believe when Prometric told them that
they passed. I called at that time and they told me I
had passed. I didn't believe it either. Call Prometric
today and I think you'll find like I did that if it
seems too good to be true it usally isn't. I'm just
wondering if anybody was able to pass that test... It
was brutal!!

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Re: rate limit plz help [7:47133]

2002-06-21 Thread Jim Haynes

Actually, x is in bits and y and z are in bytes.


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 When you use -

 rate-limit input x y z conform-action transmit ,

 x is in bytes and y and z are in bits

 HTH

 Dom.




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 Subject:rate limit plz help [7:47133]


 hi group,

 I have a customer who has take 64 up link and burstable 128 downlink
 .Problem is that i give sh int command it is showing

   5 minute input rate 148000 bits/sec, 218 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 62000 bits/sec, 36 packets/sec

 But i have configure following on serial

 interface Serial0/2
 mtu 2048
 bandwidth 512
   ip address 216.252.243.1 255.255.255.252
   ip access-group 107 in
   ip access-group 107 out
   no ip proxy-arp
   ip wccp web-cache redirect out
   ip wccp web-cache redirect in
   rate-limit input 64000 71680 71680 conform-action transmit
 exceed-action drop
   rate-limit output 64000 131072 131072 conform-action transmit
 exceed-action drop
   encapsulation ppp

 can some body help me to tell .why this is happening when i have
 configured 64 kbps on uplick of customer which input traffic for my
 router is showing 148kbps
 and out traffic 62 kbps why in traffic is exceeding

 Thanx in advance
 kaushalender




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:42 AM 6/21/02, John Neiberger wrote:
This isn't quite true.

I agree. I think the materials Michael was looking at overgeneralized. 
Words like only and always just don't come into play with networks 
unless you're talking about the speed of light or something. ;-)

Seriously, this much I know is true:

The link between the router serial interface and the CSU/DSU (which Howard 
tells me is really a DSU) is V.35. The router acts as DTE. The CSU/DSU acts 
as DCE. (We tend to think of the switch in the provider's office as being 
DCE which is true also, but on the local level, the DSU is acting as DCE).

On a V.35 connection, this much I know is true:

DTE is responsible for DTR and RTS

DCE is responsible for Data Carrier Detect (CD), DSR, and CTS.

Numerous things can go wrong to cause the DTE or DCE not to assert one or 
more of these. They have to all be asserted for the interfaces to be up/x.

However, are all those things local to the V.35 endpoints and cabling? Or 
could a problem out the other end of the DCE (out the carrier side of the 
CSU/DSU) cause them not to be asserted? Could a misconfiguration of framing 
or encoding on an external CSU/DSU cause a problem that resulted in a 
down/down interface? I think from the answers that I'm getting that the 
answer is yes. (or at least flapping and sometimes being down/down ;-)

Thanks everyone for your help. Don't I come up with some good ones? ;-)

Priscilla

  For example, a DCE router interface will be
down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device.  I see this quite
often at work and faulty cabling is generally not the culprit.  It's
almost always bad hardware in the DTE.

John

Michael L. Williams wrote:
  According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
  down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable
connected.
  So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least
see
  up/down.
 
  Mike W.
 
  Bob Timmons  wrote in message
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 I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
 
 I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router doesn't
 care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte
 
  device.
 
 If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable, you
 should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
 
  condition
 
 of the line.
 
 I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can do
 
  that
 
 tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior to
 that...
 
 
 
 Hi Priscilla,
 
 I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
 
  Telco's
 
 misconfiguration.
 Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
 which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
 all of the different combinations available at the router you will
 get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
 
 down/down).
 
 I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
 believe
 either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least that
 
 is
 
 all I've
 ever worked with.
 
 Hope this helps,
 -TV
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
 Hi Group Study,
 
 While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
 questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
 A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good
 
  V.35
 
 cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
 
 been
 
 misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
 doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
 
 CSU/DSU
 
 that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
 
  router.)
 
 Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
 And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
 misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
 If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
 
 read
 
 the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
 
 Thanks
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com


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t/r question: hex vs decimal involving 3920 routers [7:47148]

2002-06-21 Thread Mirza, Timur

i don't have a 3920 t/r switch on me, so i have to ask this question:

is it accurate to say that 

1. the bridge id  ring # under the t/r interface on a router is in DECIMAL?


2. the bridge id  ring # under the t/r interface on a router is in HEX? 

therefore,

if u want to assign RING 100 to BRIDGE 10 on r1-to0  RING 200 to BRIDGE 14
on r2-to0, u would use these exact numbers on the routers under the t/r
interface...

...but on the 3920, u would configure the following (as practice, i just add
1 to the crf)

for r1-to0 connected to the 3920:

virtual bridge:

vlan id:100
vlan name:  brf100
bridge id:  A

virtual ring:

vlan id:101
vlan name:  crf101
ring #: 64

for r2-to0 connected to the 3920:

virtual bridge:

vlan id:200
vlan name:  brf200
bridge id:  E

virtual ring:

vlan id:201
vlan name:  crf201
ring #: C8

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Access-list or Conduit [7:47146]

2002-06-21 Thread Richard Tufaro

Hey all, I was wondering when configuring rules in a Cisco PIX running
(6.2), when making your rules, is it better to do access-lists or conduits?
Which way is Cisco going on those?




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admin distance question [7:47147]

2002-06-21 Thread bergenpeak

Looking at the administrative distance values for the different
routing mechanisms.

Why would eBGP have a lower admin distance for a route than
if learned via an IGP (like OSPF or ISIS)?  Why wouldn't 
the default behavior be to prefer routes learned from the local
IGP rather than via eBGP?

THanks




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Re: BGP Prefix List Question [7:47117]

2002-06-21 Thread Dain Deutschman

Ok...I understand. The book I have here did not explain it very well. I will
definately play around with it in the lab to get a better idea. Thanks!
Dain.
Paulo Roque  wrote in message
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 I have developed a method.

 I draw a generic rule like this:

 lenge-value---le-value---32

 For the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25  I put
that
 values on the rule:

 len=24
 ge=25 (values greater than 25 marked with *)
 le= not present

 2425***32

 So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25 match the
 prefix length from 25 to 32.

 
 For the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 le 28  I put
the
 values on the rule:

 len=24
 ge= not present
 le= 28 (values lower than 28 marked with *)

 24***2832

 So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24  le 28 match the
 prefix length from 24 to 28.

 ===
 Finally for the command  ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24 ge 25 le
 28. I put  the values on the rule:
 len=24
 ge=25
 le=28

 24--25***28--32

 So the command ip prefix-list MYLIST permit prefix/24  ge 25 le 28 match
 the prefix from 25 to 28.

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 Network Engineer Cisco Certified Network Associate
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Dain Deutschman  escreveu na mensagem
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  Could someone explain to me what the ge and le options are used for
in
 a
  prefix list statement?
  Example: ip prefix-list MYLIST permit 11.11.11.0/24 ge le
 
  Thanks!
 
  Dain Deutschman
  CNA, MCP, CCNA
  Data Communications Manager
  New Star Sales and Service, Inc.




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer
it!?

Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router 
interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not 
active).

Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD) 
comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda. 
It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU.

If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or does 
the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the 
telco?

Does carrier detect mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would 
the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And 
hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was down/down.

Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question. ;-)

Priscilla

At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Hi Group Study,

While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:

A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a CSU/DSU
that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)

Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?

And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?

If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.

Thanks

Priscilla



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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The interface ends up being down/down if encoding and framing are 
misconfigured on the CSU/DSU? Sorry, you weren't clear about that part 
which is the part I'm desperately trying to confirm. ;-) Thanks.

Priscilla


At 09:53 PM 6/20/02, itsme wrote:
Hi Priscilla,

I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the Telco's
misconfiguration.
Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
all of the different combinations available at the router you will
get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and down/down).

I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
believe
either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least that is
all I've
ever worked with.

Hope this helps,
-TV


Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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  Hi Group Study,
 
  While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
  questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
  A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
  cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
  that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
 
  Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
  And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
  misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
  If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
  the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
 
  Thanks
 
  Priscilla
 
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com


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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Thanks for the additional answer.

Cisco says to check the cable, yes, but they don't go so far as to say 
that's the only time you would see down/down. They say the meaning is no 
CD. Well, when is there no CD? Of course there's no CD if the cable is bad. 
I think there are other situations where there's no CD also. Cisco also 
says that down/down could be a telco problem. See here:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1915.htm#xtocid195572

This may be one of those things that will remain a mystery. I can reword 
the sentence to make sure the reader knows to check hardware when an 
interface is down/down. I would love to say more, but I don't think I 
better without confirmation.

Priscilla

At 09:56 PM 6/20/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable connected.
So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least see
up/down.

Mike W.

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]


  Hi Group Study,
 
  While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
  questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
  A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
  cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
  that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
 
  Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
  And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
  misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
  If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
  the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
 
  Thanks
 
  Priscilla
 
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com


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New search engine, and suggestion... [7:47154]

2002-06-21 Thread David j

Hello everybody. Firstly I just want to say that changing the search engine
to google was a very good idea and secondly I think that a good way for
supporting groupstudy would be to sell (at reasonable price) an annual
CD-ROM with the archives, I wouldn't like to lose such important source of
knowledge if something happens or if some day Paul doesn't want to continue
with all that...and we could consult groupstudy off-line...
It's just a suggestion, I presume that Paul have already think about
it...perhaps it isn't a good idea...opinions are welcome..
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version S26CP-12208T [7:47155]

2002-06-21 Thread Gunjan Mathur

Hi,

I'm looking for the details documentation for this
version S26CP-12208T of IOS. I searched Cisco site but
did not find anything, can any one send me the link
for the same.
Is 2600 router support this, if yes the what is the
minimum h/w or memory requiremrnt for this.

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RE: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Daniel Cotts

And to add some more confusion - some CSU/DSUs (Larscom) use a EIA-530
cable. In Europe either X.21 or V.35 are used depending on country and (I
think) speed.
I am guessing that a EIA-530 carries the same signals as a V.35 but uses a
different form factor plug (DB-25).

 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]
 
 
 At 01:42 AM 6/21/02, John Neiberger wrote:
 This isn't quite true.
 
 I agree. I think the materials Michael was looking at 
 overgeneralized. 
 Words like only and always just don't come into play with 
 networks 
 unless you're talking about the speed of light or something. ;-)
 
 Seriously, this much I know is true:
 
 The link between the router serial interface and the CSU/DSU 
 (which Howard 
 tells me is really a DSU) is V.35. The router acts as DTE. 
 The CSU/DSU acts 
 as DCE. (We tend to think of the switch in the provider's 
 office as being 
 DCE which is true also, but on the local level, the DSU is 
 acting as DCE).
 
 On a V.35 connection, this much I know is true:
 
 DTE is responsible for DTR and RTS
 
 DCE is responsible for Data Carrier Detect (CD), DSR, and CTS.
 
 Numerous things can go wrong to cause the DTE or DCE not to 
 assert one or 
 more of these. They have to all be asserted for the 
 interfaces to be up/x.
 
 However, are all those things local to the V.35 endpoints and 
 cabling? Or 
 could a problem out the other end of the DCE (out the carrier 
 side of the 
 CSU/DSU) cause them not to be asserted? Could a 
 misconfiguration of framing 
 or encoding on an external CSU/DSU cause a problem that resulted in a 
 down/down interface? I think from the answers that I'm 
 getting that the 
 answer is yes. (or at least flapping and sometimes being down/down ;-)
 
 Thanks everyone for your help. Don't I come up with some good 
 ones? ;-)
 
 Priscilla
 
   For example, a DCE router interface will be
 down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device.  I see this quite
 often at work and faulty cabling is generally not the culprit.  It's
 almost always bad hardware in the DTE.
 
 John
 
 Michael L. Williams wrote:
   According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the 
 serial will show
   down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable
 connected.
   So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you 
 should at least
 see
   up/down.
  
   Mike W.
  
   Bob Timmons  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  
  I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
  
  I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that 
 the router doesn't
  care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to 
 the dce/dte
  
   device.
  
  If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end 
 of the cable, you
  should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
  
   condition
  
  of the line.
  
  I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right 
 now.  I can do
  
   that
  
  tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an 
 answer prior to
  that...
  
  
  
  Hi Priscilla,
  
  I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but 
 due to the
  
   Telco's
  
  misconfiguration.
  Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I 
 can't confirm
  which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that 
 going through
  all of the different combinations available at the 
 router you will
  get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
  
  down/down).
  
  I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, 
 regardless. I
  believe
  either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid 
 combinations. At least that
  
  is
  
  all I've
  ever worked with.
  
  Hope this helps,
  -TV
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  
  Hi Group Study,
  
  While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
  questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's 
 the scenario:
  
  A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected 
 with a good
  
   V.35
  
  cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. 
 The CSU/DSU has
  
  been
  
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of 
 ESF). The framing
  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question 
 refers to a
  
  CSU/DSU
  
  that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
  
   router.)
  
  Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
  
  And, would the answer be any different if the question 
 has to do with
  misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
  
  If you have real-world experience with this, that would 
 help. I have
  
  read
  
  the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
  
  Thanks
  
  Priscilla
  
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  

RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-21 Thread Frank Merrill

I did call Prometric a while back, and yes, they did indicate a passing
score, but then I asked the CCIE team to verify the validity of that
information, and they clearly said that the results had not been fully
analyzed, and that the pass/fail cut had not yet been determined.  (That was
about 2 weeks ago I think).

So, if you called Prometric, did they really give you correct info, or are
they just still making the mistake of giving out information that's not
correct?

I agree that this Beta was a bit tough, and that the current 350-001 is a
walk in the park comparatively speaking.

Good Luck!




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RE: Switch Messages [7:47005]

2002-06-21 Thread Lee James

Let me guess, 4000 switches ? I would open up a TAC case, and get the blades
changed. This is what we had to do.


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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Shawn Heisey

I've seen both down/down and up/down in real-world scenarios.  The
difference between the two seemed to be the intelligence of the CSU/DSU.

With a recent Adtran unit, it goes down/down - if the CSU is down, it
takes down the DSU.  I did not delve into the configuration to see if
this behavior could be changed.

A very old Black Box unit that I've played with will happily keep the
DSU up regardless of the state of the CSU.  This one was configured with
DIP switches, and I didn't see a way to change the behavior.


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer
 it!?
 
 Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router
 interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not
 active).
 
 Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD)
 comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda.
 It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU.
 
 If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or does
 the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the
 telco?
 
 Does carrier detect mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would
 the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And
 hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was down/down.
 
 Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question. ;-)
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 Hi Group Study,
 
 While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
 questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
 A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
 cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
 misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
 doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
 that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
 
 Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
 And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
 misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
 If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
 the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.




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CIT 640-606 exam update [7:47160]

2002-06-21 Thread Andy Barkl

The CCNP CIT exam pool of questions was revised recently and the new exam
number is 640-606, but the questions on the new exam are still multiple
choice and there are a few drag and drop or pick and place if you prefer.
This exam is no more difficult than the prior version in my opinion and it
shouldn't give you much trouble once you've taken the three other CCNP exams.
The exam details as of June 21, 2002 are 58 questions in 90 minutes and the
passing score is 776 on a scale of 300-1000.

I will be writing a complete article on my exam experience and my
recommendations for tackling this one which will be available soon at
www.TCPMag.com

Good luck on your next exam!



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RE: Emergency problem with async interface configuration [7:47161]

2002-06-21 Thread Kelly Cobean

If you are using RADIUS to authenticate your users, you can have RADIUS send
the framed-ip-address attribute-value pair to the client, effectively
using RADIUS to issue IP addresses based on client username.  There may be a
similar way with TACACS or TACACS+, but I'm not familiar with these.

HTH,
   Kelly

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I would like to assign IP address to the ppp clients based on their ppp
usernames . So that I can trace who-has-done-what on my dialup clients
based on their IP addresses . As far as I  know ,
peer default ip address
doesn't have such an option . I know how to do this on other RAS platform ,
Is there a way I can do this on a cisco router ?




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RE: Access-list or Conduit [7:47146]

2002-06-21 Thread Mark Odette II

Access-lists are the migration-to at this point.

Conduits were the original way of doing things.

Anybody know when they will drop support for conduits in the PIX code??

Mark

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Hey all, I was wondering when configuring rules in a Cisco PIX running
(6.2), when making your rules, is it better to do access-lists or
conduits?
Which way is Cisco going on those?




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Chuck

Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer
 it!?


CL: surprise surprise we all THINK we know the answer byt realy we don't ;-


 Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router
 interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not
 active).

 Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD)
 comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda.
 It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU.

 If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or
does
 the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the
 telco?

 Does carrier detect mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would
 the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And
 hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was
down/down.


CL: in my old dial up to the BBS days, I always interpreted carrier as
essentially a completed telephone call. I've carried that idea into the T1
world I live in now. however, I think we all know the problem with Frame or
ATM, where the line is up ( i.e. there is carrier ) because of LMI or the
ATM equivalent signalling, so dial backup doesn't kick in, even though end
to end is down.


 Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question. ;-)


CL: personally, I enjoy getting into the nitty gritty of how things really
work. Not that I need to, or that it is necessary, even in the certification
quest. It just serves to broaden the perspective. It never hurts to
understand things a bit better.


 Priscilla

 At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 Hi Group Study,
 
 While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
 questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
 
 A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
 cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has been
 misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
 doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
 that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
 
 Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
 
 And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
 misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
 
 If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have read
 the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
 
 Thanks
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Roberts, Larry

I have seen down/up on an Ethernet interface before.

On the older code of PIX's (5.x) , interfaces were required to be connected
even if they were shutdown for a failover config. This was for keepalive
purposes...
You would end up with an admin down/up, as it was shutdown, but still
receiving keepalives...
Talk about a condition to make you scratch your head...



Thanks

Larry
 

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I have seen down/up, but this was on xGS routers around release 9.x. 
In those cases, it meant there was a main processor hardware (or 
rarely software) failure.




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RE: OSPF, when is it time for more than area 0 (try 2) [7:47165]

2002-06-21 Thread Kelly Cobean

Here are some commands you can run, and their significance in determining
whether your OSPF Area 0 routers are working too hard or not:

#show ip ospf:
   Look for:
   SPF algorithm executed xxx times - I don't know what constitutes a
high number, but if it's in the hundreds or thousands after a relatively
short period of time, that means that instabilities in your network are
causing the routers to frequently run the Dijkstra (SPF) algorithm, which is
a very processor intensive process.

#show processes cpu:
   Look for:
OSPF Hello - Again, I'm not sure what high is, but one of our
routers that has 1 Broadcast interface, and 13 Point-to-point interfaces
holds steady at 0.06% processor utilization.  Anyone care to chime in on
what a high number for this process would be?
OSPF Router - This is the one that will spike during SPF
calculation, so watch the 5 minute utilization here, if you see it
consistently high, that probably means it's time to move to multi-area OSPF

#show processes memory | include OSPF: (the | include OSPF just helps
minimize the junk)
Look for:
OSPF Hello  OSPF Router - Not real sure about OSPF Hello, but I believe the
memory counter for OSPF router indicates the size of your databases.  If you
find these growing large enough to start running the router out of memory,
it's time to move to multi-area OSPF (again, I don't know what size of
network it would take to do this, sorry.  Any takers on that one?)


The number of SPF calculations and CPU utilization are the two big ones to
watch our for (and are directly linked to one another)  If you see lots of
re-calc's and they are holding your processor hostage, then you should start
thinking about redesign.


HTH,
  Kelly Cobean


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I've got a rather large OSPF area 0 network with no non-zero
areas.  This network will continue to grow both in number of
network elements and number of subnets on these routers.

What commands, and specifically, what information provided by
these commands, will give me insight as to whether these routers
are nearing the point, from a routing perspective, that its time
to segement the network in some fashion?

Thanks




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RE: VPN CLIENT + Dns [7:47125]

2002-06-21 Thread Roberts, Larry

Are these PPTP tunnels or IPSec.

PPTP appends those listed in the concentrator, while the cisco client will
remove the local ones and replace them with the ones from the concentrator.

If you have more than 3 listed, I don't know if they would show up.

Thanks

Larry
 

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Hi All Guru's ,


I Need to config  dns servers entries for all the VPN clients that login to 
VPN concentrator but after adding the entries in the appropiate group
configuartions also I have not being able to set any dns entries on the VPN
client machines .Can anybody out their suggest me what I am doing wrong.


 


 


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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 07:17 PM 6/21/02, Chuck wrote:
Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in message
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  I guess the question is too hard for a practice test if NOBODY can answer
  it!?
 

CL: surprise surprise we all THINK we know the answer byt realy we don't ;-

My messages arrived asynchronously, when I meant for them to arrive 
isochronously. ;-) Seriously, they arrived out of order. Despite all the 
confusion, I do feel like I have an answer now. Thanks to everyone who 
answered.

Priscilla



  Here's the thing: Cisco says that a down/down interface means the router
  interface is not sensing a Carrier Detect signal (that is, the CD is not
  active).
 
  Now, from my studies of V.35 I know that data carrier detect (DCD or CD)
  comes from the DCE side of the V.35 link, carried on pin 8, yadda, yadda.
  It comes from the data interface on the DSU side of the CSU/DSU.
 
  If the router is correctly connected to the CSU/DSU, will it see CD or
does
  the answer depend on whether the CSU/DSU is also correctly talking to the
  telco?
 
  Does carrier detect mean literally what it sounds like it means? Would
  the CSU/DSU not assert CD if there was a problem on the telco side? And
  hence the router wouldn't see CD and would say the interface was
down/down.
 

CL: in my old dial up to the BBS days, I always interpreted carrier as
essentially a completed telephone call. I've carried that idea into the T1
world I live in now. however, I think we all know the problem with Frame or
ATM, where the line is up ( i.e. there is carrier ) because of LMI or the
ATM equivalent signalling, so dial backup doesn't kick in, even though end
to end is down.


  Not something I can easily test. Maybe I better simplify the question.
;-)
 

CL: personally, I enjoy getting into the nitty gritty of how things really
work. Not that I need to, or that it is necessary, even in the certification
quest. It just serves to broaden the perspective. It never hurts to
understand things a bit better.


  Priscilla
 
  At 06:34 PM 6/20/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  Hi Group Study,
  
  While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
  questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
  
  A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good V.35
  cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
been
  misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
  doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
CSU/DSU
  that is external to the router, not one that is built into the router.)
  
  Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
  
  And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
  misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
  
  If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
read
  the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
  
  Thanks
  
  Priscilla
  
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com


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ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]

2002-06-21 Thread juan lenoir

hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda study group, is
there anyone that can push me in the right direction..juan




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Re: serial interface down/down or up/down [7:47101]

2002-06-21 Thread Roy Bender

Hi Everyone, I am new to this group and I just passed my CCIE written and am
looking forward to participating.

I have done a lot of lease line installs the last couple of years, and I
have worked with EIA-530, V.35, G.703, EIA-232 etc...Most of these installs
required me to go through an additional pieces of equipment like a hardware
encryption unit or an additional set of CSU/DSU’s to extend the circuit
while maintaining the carriers Demarc point. Anyway, I have been required to
make numerous cables to make things talk. And during troubleshooting/testing
with a breakout box I discovered that the only signal required to bring the
serial port up was a high on DCD/CD with all other leads open. Just
something to think on. Cheers


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RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]

2002-06-21 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Prometric may be giving out accurate information at this point, unless they
just get off by messing with our minds. The first time I called (about two
weeks ago) they said I had passed, which I couldn't believe because I didn't
even study for it and was only curious to see what was on the beta. I called
today and they said that I had failed, which was more in line with my
expectations.

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Merrill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:36 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: CCIE Beta results [7:47144]
 
 I did call Prometric a while back, and yes, they did indicate a passing
 score, but then I asked the CCIE team to verify the validity of that
 information, and they clearly said that the results had not been fully
 analyzed, and that the pass/fail cut had not yet been determined.  (That
 was
 about 2 weeks ago I think).
 
 So, if you called Prometric, did they really give you correct info, or are
 they just still making the mistake of giving out information that's not
 correct?
 
 I agree that this Beta was a bit tough, and that the current 350-001 is a
 walk in the park comparatively speaking.
 
 Good Luck!




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Re: CCIE tips... [7:47128]

2002-06-21 Thread JohnZ

Here's on tip...NDA
Paul Blake  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 have you recently taken the CCIE lab, failed and would rather not repeat
 your failure ? me too.

 I'm looking to exchange tips and issues encountered with anybody who has
 also recently taken the lab.

 Drop me a mail (not to the group) and we'll go from there.

 regards
 Paul




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RE: New search engine, and suggestion... [7:47154]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul Borghese

The google search engine is temporary until we find a more permenant
solution.  The Google search engine searches the entire site giving less
relevant results then the older engine that only searched the archives.  I
am thinking swish-e or htdig.

Opinions?

Paul Borghese


David j wrote:
 
 Hello everybody. Firstly I just want to say that changing the
 search engine to google was a very good idea and secondly I
 think that a good way for supporting groupstudy would be to
 sell (at reasonable price) an annual CD-ROM with the archives,
 I wouldn't like to lose such important source of knowledge if
 something happens or if some day Paul doesn't want to continue
 with all that...and we could consult groupstudy off-line...
 It's just a suggestion, I presume that Paul have already think
 about it...perhaps it isn't a good idea...opinions are welcome..
 Regards, David




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RE: ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul Borghese

Try the Atlanta Cisco users group.  They have study sessions for CCNA
candidates that meet at a local training center.

Go to:
http://www.internetworkexperts.net/acsg.htm

Good luck!

Paul Borghese

juan lenoir wrote:
 
 hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda
 study group, is
 there anyone that can push me in the right
 direction..juan
 
 




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Cable Modem DHCP problem [7:47175]

2002-06-21 Thread McHugh Randy

Does anyone know how to release a DHCP lease on a 2514 eth interface? I
would like to release the lease recieved from the cable modem (comcast) . I
have tried powercycling the modem, router, reload, shuting the interface ect
and nothing works. I get the same lease all the time and cant get out to the
internet.
thanks
Randy


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HSRP [7:47177]

2002-06-21 Thread Tim Potier

Lets say I have HSRP configured on a series of routers... I know clients are
sending packets to the MAC/IP of the well known virtual MAC with Cisco
equipment.  Assume the receiving station recieves the packet directly from
the router participating in HSRP with the highest priority... what is the
source MAC the receiving station sees?


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CCNP-New Track [7:47178]

2002-06-21 Thread Anil Kumar

Hi,

 

I am planning to take up the CCNP exams by next week. 

Can anyone tell what are passing score for 640-603, 604,605 and 606.

 

Thanks in Advance.

 

Regards...Anil 



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RE: CIT 640-606 exam update [7:47160]

2002-06-21 Thread wang nan

, thanx


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Re: 678 cbos upgrade [7:46374]

2002-06-21 Thread Brian

I have tried this and gotten nowhere, mostly because I do not get a prompt
at all via console.  My term settings r all correct, verified at work
via a 2511, and I tried the ctrl-c during boot as an option to get to a
rommonish prompt.  Theres this red light on onside that does not turn off.
Online docs talk about,Use the monitor's xmodem download procedure to
recover.  Monitor's xmodem download procedure?  What monitor? What r they
talkin about when they say monitor?

Bri

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, John Neiberger wrote:

 Yes, these have a boot mode of sorts that allows an xmodem update.  Here
 are the instructions for CBOS 2.3.5.  I'm sure the instructions are
 similar for other releases:


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c600s/cbos/cbos230/cbo230rn.htm#xtocid2360917


 HTH,
 John

  Brian  6/12/02 3:28:51 PM 
 Anyone know if the following is a recoverable error.  Someone I know
 has a
 678, and the power went out while upgrading, it is now nonfunctional.
 They're willing to sell it to me for dirt.  Do these have a low level
 they
 boot to if the cbos load fails?

   Bri




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