Re: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

2003-01-27 Thread Usman Ali
Hello
I think you did not open port on pix to send log information to server
when you install pfss software it shows what ports it is using on TCP and
UDP check it and  modify this commnad on pix
 logging host inside 192.168.11.254 tcp/the port number
by default is uses 1468 
but some time it use 1470 so confirm port number and configure it i thin it
will work
Bye
Usman Ali



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RE: How to stop SYN Flood with Pix firewall? [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan
If it wasn't for those Crappy Windows machines, we would have jobs.

-Original Message-
From: d tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to stop SYN Flood with Pix firewall? [7:61891]

I am not sure how many Packets/Sec hping2 generate but I don't think
100BaseT
was saturated because the whole thing is connected to a Cisco 2924-XL
Enterprise
switch (running 12.05(T)) IOS.  Furthermore, while machines on 172.16.1.0/24

network have problem connecting to the linux web server via NATed address
172.16.1.71, they have NO problems surfing the Internet or any other
network.
In fact, I am writing you this email as my other two linux servers are
sending
SYN flood to the web server and the CPU on the Pix firewall is at 99%.  
You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you decided to scrap the

shitty MS SQL server, running on crappy Windows machine and replace it 
MySQL (freeware) or real commercial database products like Oracle, running
on
Linux platform.  
Enjoy fighting udp1434.  LOL
DT
 Przemyslaw Karwasiecki  wrote:How many packet per second hping2 generates?

If it saturates 100BaseT, maybe you had just reached 
performance limit of PIX520?

I am not trying to say that PIX will not handle traffic
in proximity of 150,000-200,000 pps.
I simply don't know that.

But, if it needs to analyze 150,000 SYN packets per second,
I can easily imagine that it will crawl.

BTW -- very interesting experiment.

Przemek
(fighting with udp 1434 now)


On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 16:40, d tran wrote:
 Guys,
 
 I have the following scenario:
 
 I have a pix 520 firewall (750MHz with 512MB of RAM) in the lab. The
inside
 
 interface is 10.100.0.254/24 and the outside interface is
172.16.1.253/24.
 
 I have a linux server residing on the inside network with IP 10.100.0.71
running
 
 Apache Server and it is NATed to the outside with IP 172.16.1.71. I would
like
 
 to make this web server availabe to outside world. My pix configuration
looks
 
 like this:
 
 static (inside,outside) 172.16.1.71 10.100.0.71 
 
 access-list 100 permit tcp any host 172.16.1.71 eq 80
 
 access-list 100 deny ip any any
 
 access-group 100 in interface outside
 
 floodguard enable
 
 Now on the outside network I have two linux servers, (172.16.1.67 and
172.16.1.7),
 
 running hping2 program that is capable of generating a lot of SYN
connection to
 
 address 172.16.1.71. Now, when I run the hping2 program, I am seeing the
cpu
 
 utilization on the firewall reaching 99% like this:
 
 pix1(config)# sh cpu usage
 CPU utilization for 5 seconds = 99%; 1 minute: 98%; 5 minutes: 98%
 
 However, the connection is less than 200
 
 pix1(config)# sh conn count
 125 in use, 7926 most used
 
 Other machines on the 172.16.1.0/24 network have problem reaching the
webserver,
 
 172.16.1.71, when hping2 is bombarding the webserver with SYN Flood.
 
 Fair enough, I decided to modify the access-list 100 to limit both the
maximum
 
 connections and half-open connections to 500 and 250, respectively, as
follows:
 
 static (inside,outside) 172.16.1.71 10.100.0.71 255.255.255.255 500 250
 
 and I do clear xlate after that.
 
 That didn't help. The cpu utilization is still 99% and machines on the
outside
 
 network still have problems accessing the website. 
 
 My question is this. How do I defend against SYN flood like this? From
what I've
 
 heard, Cisco Pix has an improved TCP intercept to defend against SYN
attack.
 
 Why is it not working in my case? To make the matter worse, the CPU also 
 
 reaches 99% when hping2 SYN flood port 22 even though the firewall does
not allow
 
 port 22 to 172.16.1.71. 
 
 I am testing with both version 6.2(2) and 6.3(0) build 131 on this Pix520
firewall.
 
 I would like to know how to defend against not only SYN flood but also
from other
 
 attacks. It looks to me like Pix is not doing its jobs.
 
 Regards,
 
 DT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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R/S Study group in Spain [7:61945]

2003-01-27 Thread Francisco Sedano/Inf-Pronet
Hello friends!

I currently have CCNP certification and looking forward to get CCIE in the
next months.

I'd love to create a study group in Madrid, Spain. Or, at least in Spain :
-).

I have a lab, with Cat5k, several 2500, MC3810, etc, accesible via telnet.

Anybody here interested?


Best regards,
  Francisco Sedano.




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Re: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,
by using cisco catalyst 3550 switch you can do ..
in 8 K interval you can adjust rate limit of port

Lupi, Guy wrote:

Packeteer makes a great product, the Packetshaper.  It works very well,
check it out:

www.packeteer.com

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:33 PM
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Subject: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]


Hey all...

Are there any ISP's out there with co-location clients located in their
NOC???  If so, how do you effectively rate-limit their bandwidth.  We
currently use CAR on our switches/routers to accomplish this task but
wondered if there is a better, more manageable way to accomplish this task. 
Maybe with some other form of hardware?

Regards,

Chris
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MPLS Traffic Engineering - 2500 router reset [7:61947]

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After the command tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic,  the
router reloads.

The same happen with explicit path.

The following message appear after reload: RSVP: must configure RSVP
Bandwidth first.

Any idea?



   R3

   ip cef
   mpls traffic-eng tunnels
   !
   interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.255
ip router isis
   !
   interface Serial0
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
fair-queue 64 64 64
ip rsvp signalling dscp 0
   !
   interface Serial0.32 point-to-point
bandwidth 1000
ip address 192.168.23.2 255.255.255.0
ip router isis
mpls traffic-eng tunnels
frame-relay interface-dlci 132
ip rsvp bandwidth 500 500
   !
   interface Tunnel0
ip unnumbered Loopback0
tunnel destination 2.2.2.2
tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng
tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce
tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 7 7
tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth  100
   !
   router isis
net 47....0003.00
is-type level-1
metric-style wide
mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0
mpls traffic-eng level-1
   !
   end


  R2

  ip cef
  mpls traffic-eng tunnels
  !
  interface Loopback0
   ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255
   ip router isis
  !
  interface Serial0
   no ip address
   encapsulation frame-relay
   fair-queue 64 64 64
   ip rsvp signalling dscp 0
  !
  interface Serial0.23 point-to-point
   bandwidth 1000
   ip address 192.168.23.1 255.255.255.0
   ip router isis
   mpls traffic-eng tunnels
   frame-relay interface-dlci 123
   ip rsvp bandwidth 500 500
  !
  interface Tunnel0
   ip unnumbered Loopback0
   tunnel destination 3.3.3.3
   tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng
   tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce
   tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 7 7
   tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth  100
  !
  router isis
   net 47....0002.00
   is-type level-1
   metric-style wide
   mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0
   mpls traffic-eng level-1
  !
  end




  R3(config-if)#tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic
  R3(config-if)#
  Buffered messages:

  00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to up
  00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet1, changed state to up
  00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to up
  00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to down
  00:00:07: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
  changed sta
  te to up
  00:00:15: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0,
  changed s
  tate to up
  00:00:15: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet1,
  changed s
  tate to down
  00:00:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0,
  changed sta
  te to down
  00:00:21: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to
  administrativ
  ely down
  00:00:22: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet1, changed state to
  administrativ
  ely down
  00:00:22: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
  changed sta
  te to up
  00:00:22: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0,
  changed s
  tate to down
  00:00:25: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial1, changed state to
  administrativel
  y down
  00:00:26: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1,
  changed sta
  te to down
  00:00:27: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
  00:01:12: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
  Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
  IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-P-L), Experimental Version
  12.0(20011017:155337)
   [rraszuk-New_reorg_oct17 109]
  Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
  Compiled Sat 20-Oct-01 04:12 by rraszuk
  00:03:41: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
  Queued messages:
  System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c)XB2, PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc
  1)
  Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems
  2500 processor with 14336 Kbytes of main memory

  %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 12.0 may not be
  correctly und
  erstood.
  %FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial0 - DLCI 132 state changed to
  ACTIVE
  %FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial0 - DLCI 134 state changed to
  ACTIVE
  %FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial0 - DLCI 139 state changed to
  ACTIVE
  F3: 7712092+591256+933136 at 0x360

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Multipoint/point-to-point(Fr ame-Relay) [7:61948]

2003-01-27 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi all, 
Generally what are mostly used in customer scenarios point to point or
multipoint subinterfaces while confguring frame-relay.As U know all point
-to point sub interface consumes lot no.of addreses all different
subnets,although ip unnumbered is way to avoid this(ip unnumbered has the
limitation of managing wan links which isp dont like) but still what isps
prefer to suggest thier customers point to point or multipoint as of
now.what is the general trend followed.


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Re: Multipoint/point-to-point(Fr ame-Relay) [7:61948]

2003-01-27 Thread Juntao
from what i've seen in enterprises, the trend seems to be going towards P2P
with sub interfaces and ip unnumbered when needed, as it implies some
trouble shooting constraints.
i'm sure u know the issues that imply when using P2M(spilt horizon must be
disabled, if your using EIGRP the bandwith command must reflrect the lowest
cir of the pvc's used.)
i'm sure others will comment on this

hope the above helps

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 Hi all,
 Generally what are mostly used in customer scenarios point to point or
 multipoint subinterfaces while confguring frame-relay.As U know all point
 -to point sub interface consumes lot no.of addreses all different
 subnets,although ip unnumbered is way to avoid this(ip unnumbered has the
 limitation of managing wan links which isp dont like) but still what isps
 prefer to suggest thier customers point to point or multipoint as of
 now.what is the general trend followed.




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Muticast and RP [7:61950]

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Burdette
Good morning,

I’m working on multicast scenarios at home in preparation for the CCNP
switching exam. I feel comfortable and can make work most of the concepts
work, but I’m having difficulty with the PIM sparse and sparse-dense modes.

I have a setup like this;

Sender --E-- Cat5000 --FE-- 2620 --S-- 2514 --E-- 1912 --E— Receiver

E stands for Ethernet, FE for fast and S for serial.

The sender is a multicast server sending out a stream via Windows Media
Server on .Net.  The receiver is an XP pro client.  When I configure all the
router ports as dense-mode I’m successful connecting to the streaming video
from the client.  However, when I try using either the sparse or
sparse-dense mode, I’m having trouble understanding the RP concept as
explained in the CiscoPress books or CCO. Of course the client cannot see
the video stream. I know that I have to define an RP server or use AutoRP
but I can’t quite figure out how.

Help?

Richard Burdette



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RE: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]

2003-01-27 Thread Arnold, Jamie
We have a few of these (ISP models) and they are very good at what they do.
Very powerful CLI as well as the HTTP GUI.

J

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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]


Packeteer makes a great product, the Packetshaper.  It works very well,
check it out:

www.packeteer.com

-Original Message-
From: Chris Headings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bandwidth Restriction [7:61916]


Hey all...

Are there any ISP's out there with co-location clients located in their
NOC???  If so, how do you effectively rate-limit their bandwidth.  We
currently use CAR on our switches/routers to accomplish this task but
wondered if there is a better, more manageable way to accomplish this task. 
Maybe with some other form of hardware?

Regards,

Chris




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RE: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

2003-01-27 Thread Elijah Savage III
Thanks everyone for the replies but I have it working now but what gets
me I have no clue what did it. I took all of the logging info that was
posted in my original email off of the pix and put it back on after
doing so it started working. 

Usman I am not using the pfss software from Cisco I am using a real
syslog server on a Freebsd box. Once again thank you for your replies.

-Original Message-
From: Usman Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

Hello
I think you did not open port on pix to send log information to server
when you install pfss software it shows what ports it is using on TCP
and
UDP check it and  modify this commnad on pix
 logging host inside 192.168.11.254 tcp/the port number
by default is uses 1468 
but some time it use 1470 so confirm port number and configure it i thin
it
will work
Bye
Usman Ali




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Help,token ring connection without a MAU [7:61953]

2003-01-27 Thread ha
 hi
 can 2 token ring interface direct connected with a crcoss cable.i've
 carefully read the pinout at CCO and make sure it's right,but it did not
 work.
 must i buy a MAU to let them work correctly?
 thanks for your help




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Help,token ring connection without mau [7:61954]

2003-01-27 Thread ha
hi
can 2 token ring interface direct connected with a crcoss cable.i've
carefully read the pinout at CCO and make sure it's right,but it did not
work.
must i buy a MAU to let them work correctly?
thanks for your help




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RE: How Much This User Router [7:61939]

2003-01-27 Thread Daniel Cotts
New list price is $2325 USD.
For used go to ebay.com and search on Cisco +2511 in the completed auctions.
Pay particular attention to auctions with no bids - no buyer was willing to
pay the starting price.

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 Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How Much This User Router [7:61939]
 
 
 Can any one tell me how much below used router and a brand 
 new unit? Thanks
 
 
 
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS40-L), Version 11.3(11b), 
 RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Fri 02-Mar-01 18:47 by cmong
 Image text-base: 0x030383FC, data-base: 0x1000
 
 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
 BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 
 11.0(10c), RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
 LOCUG uptime is 2 minutes
 System restarted by power-on
 System image file is flash:c2500-is40-l.113-11b.bin, booted 
 via flash
 
 cisco 2511 (68030) processor (revision M) with 2048K/2048K 
 bytes of memory.
 Processor board ID 10297453, with hardware revision 
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial network interface(s)
 16 terminal line(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)
 
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Best online racks and workbooks [7:61956]

2003-01-27 Thread Michael Williams
Hey all,

I was wanting to get people's feedback as to their opinions on the various
CCIE Lab workbooks and online racks.

I've heard good things about the IPExpert ($500), but assuming their online
e-scenarios are as good as their workbook, it seems the Gold subscription
($400) would give me access to more situations to work through.  I've also
heard some good things about the CCBootCamp scenarios ($650).

Also, as you probably know, the different online rack places have different
things that are good and bad.  Some only sell 12 hour blocks, but others
charge alot more per hour than others.  Any input on their likes/dislikes
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Mike W.


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Re: UPDATE: Looking for Cisco practice rack [7:61630]

2003-01-27 Thread Matrix_pk
www.racktimerentals.com has both ATm and voice.
 
Shahid 
 John C  wrote:Thanks for the responses everyone! To those who don't know,
here is a list
of good Cisco racks that you can use over the net. All of these seem CCIE
ready (I'm not sure about true ATM and Voice though, I think ccbootcamp and
RouterX were the only ones that had it all - double check this though).

www.ccbootcamp.com
www.cconlinelabs.com
www.fatkid.com
www.racktimerentals.com
www.routerx.com


John C wrote:Anyone know of a good Cisco practice rack? I haven't seen one
that meets my needs for the CCIE. Thx.


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VO/IP Study [7:61957]

2003-01-27 Thread Curious
Guys
Tell me the best place to learn / certify on VO/IP in New York City / NJ
area.



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PBX knowledge for VoIP [7:61958]

2003-01-27 Thread neil K.
Hi Guys,

Need your help.
How much PBX knowledge / Voice networking knowledge is necessary to be a
good VoIP Engineer. Any suggestions on books to go through or any web sites.

Thanks,

neil K.




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RE: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Elijah,
I would add 'logging buffered debug' and see if you get any error messages
in the local log file. You check the local using 'show log'. You may see
traffic being blocked by an ACL.

Secondly version 6.2(2) does have the packet capture feature. It is too long
to go into but check the CCO on how to enable this. I have used it and it
works well. Basically you do the following:

1. Define an ACL to capture the traffic you are looking for, in your case
any traffic going to the syslog server.
2. Use the 'capture' comand assigning the ACL to an interface and starting
the capture.
3. Use the 'show capture' command to see the results.
Hope this helps,
Scott




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From: Elijah Savage III [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:21:10 GMT
Subject: RE: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

As a last resort I did reboot the pix also but still no logging, what am
I missing?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:11 PM
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Subject: Help with pix firewall logging [7:61902]

All,



I have a pix running 6.2 it is logging to a freebsd server on the local
network. It was logging at one time to syslog no problem but all of a
sudden it stopped and I can't get it working. Here is the logging config
I turned up logging to see if it would help and nothing. Yes I am sure
syslog is running on the box if I do a tcpdump on the freebsd server I
see nothing coming from the pix.



logging on

logging timestamp

logging trap warnings

logging history debugging

logging facility 23

logging host inside 192.168.11.254
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RE: VO/IP Study [7:61957]

2003-01-27 Thread Juan Blanco
Curious,
The following will be a start for your goal..

CIPT 9E0-402
Cisco IP Telephony by ciscopress - David Lovell
Cisco IP Telephony Network Design Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/network/
Cisco IP Telephony Solution Guide
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/solution_guide/index.html

DQoS 9E0-601
DQoS is all QoS, pretty straight forward. Hands on experience helped quite a
bit. There is a QoS book from Cisco Press, the book is a few years old and
is poorly layed out. The IOS 12.2 QoS guide follows the exam blueprint
pretty closely and is a great reference.
Cisco AVVID QoS Guide
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/ip_tele/avvidqos/index
.htm
Cisco IOS QoS Solutions Guide 12.2
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos
_c/

CVOICE 9E0423
Cisco Voice over Frame relay, ATM and IP by ciscopress - Steve McQuery
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/voice
_c/vcprt1/index.htm

Be aware that for this kind of certification you need to find as many pdfs
as possible related to the topic because the technology is still going
trough many changes The order of taking the test I recommend is the
following:
DQoS --- CVOICE --- CIPT

Good luck,

Juan Blanco

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RE: Muticast and RP [7:61950]

2003-01-27 Thread s vermill
Richard Burdette wrote:
 
 Good morning,
 
 I’m working on multicast scenarios at home in preparation for
 the CCNP switching exam. I feel comfortable and can make work
 most of the concepts work, but I’m having difficulty with the
 PIM sparse and sparse-dense modes.
 
 I have a setup like this;
 
 Sender --E-- Cat5000 --FE-- 2620 --S-- 2514 --E-- 1912 --E—
 Receiver
 
 E stands for Ethernet, FE for fast and S for serial.
 
 The sender is a multicast server sending out a stream via
 Windows Media Server on .Net.  The receiver is an XP pro
 client.  When I configure all the router ports as dense-mode
 I’m successful connecting to the streaming video from the
 client.  However, when I try using either the sparse or
 sparse-dense mode, I’m having trouble understanding the RP
 concept as explained in the CiscoPress books or CCO. Of course
 the client cannot see the video stream. I know that I have to
 define an RP server or use AutoRP but I can’t quite figure out
 how.
 
 Help?
 
 Richard Burdette
 

It's easier than you think.  Every Sparse Mode router needs to know the RP. 
So on your 2514, you need 'ip pim rp-address x.x.x.x' where x.x.x.x is the
address of your 2620.   The 2620 needs the same command so that it knows
it's the RP (I think).  Optionally, the 2514 could be the RP.  It doesn't
matter.  The RP only sets up the initial state.  Cisco routers by default
join the shortest path tree to the source after receiving the first mcast
packet via the shared tree.  In your topology, both the shared and shortest
path trees are the same, so it doesn't really matter.  All an RP does is
allow sources to register their mcast offerings, and allows receivers to
find those sources and join the group.  Once receivers have joined the
group, they can join towards the source directly and the RP is (usually) no
longer in the path.


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Re: Multipoint/point-to-point(Fr ame-Relay) [7:61948]

2003-01-27 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi Juntao,
Thanx for the input,
what about the existing Frame-relay networks u mean to say that they will be
migrating to point-point sub-interfaces(networks).
Might be more Input is required from experts here.Thanx once again.


:)
Juntao wrote:
 
 from what i've seen in enterprises, the trend seems to be going
 towards P2P
 with sub interfaces and ip unnumbered when needed, as it
 implies some
 trouble shooting constraints.
 i'm sure u know the issues that imply when using P2M(spilt
 horizon must be
 disabled, if your using EIGRP the bandwith command must
 reflrect the lowest
 cir of the pvc's used.)
 i'm sure others will comment on this
 
 hope the above helps
 
 Simmi Singla  a icrit dans le
 message de news:
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  Hi all,
  Generally what are mostly used in customer scenarios point to
 point or
  multipoint subinterfaces while confguring frame-relay.As U
 know all point
  -to point sub interface consumes lot no.of addreses all
 different
  subnets,although ip unnumbered is way to avoid this(ip
 unnumbered has the
  limitation of managing wan links which isp dont like) but
 still what isps
  prefer to suggest thier customers point to point or
 multipoint as of
  now.what is the general trend followed.
 
 




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2003-01-27 Thread Len Lee
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Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs? Probably
very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP packets.

Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.

But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that private
info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little to do with
privacy compromises.

Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm way off
base! :-)

Prisiclla

Amazing wrote:
 
 what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who
 says tht BoA
 servers or any BoA database were comprimised?  who says they
 are even
 running MS-SQL?   Read how the worm is spreading and you will
 understand
 that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected
 by the worm.
 my guess is that a company with LARGE blocks of routable
 addresses and
 probably very high speed connections to the Internet might have
 bigger
 problems with this worm which in effect becomes a denial of
 service attack
 on their edge devices even if they are filtering out udp 1494
 at the edge.
 
 take a look at the post by Ken and observe what is happening to
 the CPU of
 one of his router blades.
 
 i definitely agree with your comment about the security con
 artist
 comparison the y2k consultants
 
 l0stbyte  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  the dumb butts are allowing access to SQL from public
 networks. how
  difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on
 private
  networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K
 all
  over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists
 claiming to
  be security experts.
 
  Cheers...
 
  P.S. There was a news clip that BofA networks were effected.
 this is
 scary.
 
  l0stbyte
  Symon Thurlow wrote:
   Cheers,
  
   Symon
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 26 January 2003 20:02
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]
  
  
   d tran wrote:
  
  You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you
 decided to
  scrap the shitty MS SQL server, running on crappy Windows
 machine and
  replace it
  MySQL (freeware) or real commercial database products like
  Oracle, running on
  Linux platform.
  Enjoy fighting udp1434.  LOL
  DT
  
  
   I don't think that's true. He could have been a victim of
 other people
   running Windows SQL Server 2000. From what I understand
 about the worm,
   it not only repicated itself to other unpatched systems,
 but it send
   gazillions of packets to random IP addresses to port 1434.
 Many ISPs and
   companies were affected by it, not just the dumb butts who
 don't patch
   their systems.
  
   Here, we didn't seem to be affected by it, though. Maybe
 because I
   didn't check until Saturday afternoon? But no complaints
 came in.
  
   Are others willing to share their experiences? It could be
 a good
   learning opportunity.
  
   Anyone have a link to a good technical document about the
 worm?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Priscilla
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RE: Muticast and RP [7:61950]

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Burdette
Just before I got your reply, I finally found a document on CCO that
explained that I had to have the 'ip pim rp-address ...' configured on both
routers which I did.  No I'm not seeing the earlier problem about not being
able to join the Auto-RP router.

As I was seeing before, I can see the multicast entry in the mroute table on
the RP sever, but it is Pruned by the looks of it and it is not sending out
the serial port to the other router...

What could it be now?

2620 Mroute

2620#sho ip mroute
IP Multicast Routing Table
Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C - Connected,
   L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag,
   T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry,
   X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP Advertisement,
   U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, s - SSM
Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched
Timers: Uptime/Expires
Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode

(*, 239.255.255.250), 00:18:05/00:03:13, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: S
  Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
  Outgoing interface list:
Serial0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:18:05/00:03:13

(*, 224.0.1.40), 19:06:50/00:00:00, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJCL
  Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
  Outgoing interface list:
Serial0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:55:50/00:02:57
FastEthernet0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 19:06:50/00:02:45

(*, 239.192.47.232), 00:00:04/00:02:59, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SP
  Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
  Outgoing interface list: Null

(10.1.1.2, 239.192.47.232), 00:00:06/00:02:59, flags: PT
  Incoming interface: FastEthernet0/0, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
  Outgoing interface list: Null

2514 Mroute

2514#sho ip mroute
IP Multicast Routing Table
Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C - Connected,
   L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag,
   T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry,
   X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP Advertisement,
   U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, s - SSM
Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched
Timers: Uptime/Expires
Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode

(*, 239.255.255.250), 00:19:03/00:01:59, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJC
  Incoming interface: Serial0, RPF nbr 20.1.1.1
  Outgoing interface list:
Ethernet0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:19:03/00:01:59

(*, 224.0.1.40), 00:34:45/00:00:00, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJCL
  Incoming interface: Serial0, RPF nbr 20.1.1.1
  Outgoing interface list:
Ethernet0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:34:45/00:02:03

As you can see the 2620 is aware of the multicast stream from FE0/0, but
it's Pruned and it's not putting it ouot to the 2514?


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Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread John Neiberger
Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it
common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over
the Internet?  We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider
doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just that.

Then again, they probably have twenty times more ATMs than we do, so
perhaps they have different issues to be considered.

John

 Priscilla Oppenheimer  1/27/03 11:24:42 AM

Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs?
Probably
very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP
packets.

Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.

But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that
private
info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little to do
with
privacy compromises.

Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm way
off
base! :-)

Prisiclla

Amazing wrote:
 
 what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who
 says tht BoA
 servers or any BoA database were comprimised?  who says they
 are even
 running MS-SQL?   Read how the worm is spreading and you will
 understand
 that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected
 by the worm.
 my guess is that a company with LARGE blocks of routable
 addresses and
 probably very high speed connections to the Internet might have
 bigger
 problems with this worm which in effect becomes a denial of
 service attack
 on their edge devices even if they are filtering out udp 1494
 at the edge.
 
 take a look at the post by Ken and observe what is happening to
 the CPU of
 one of his router blades.
 
 i definitely agree with your comment about the security con
 artist
 comparison the y2k consultants
 
 l0stbyte  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  the dumb butts are allowing access to SQL from public
 networks. how
  difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on
 private
  networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K
 all
  over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists
 claiming to
  be security experts.
 
  Cheers...
 
  P.S. There was a news clip that BofA networks were effected.
 this is
 scary.
 
  l0stbyte
  Symon Thurlow wrote:
   Cheers,
  
   Symon
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: 26 January 2003 20:02
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]
  
  
   d tran wrote:
  
  You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you
 decided to
  scrap the shitty MS SQL server, running on crappy Windows
 machine and
  replace it
  MySQL (freeware) or real commercial database products like
  Oracle, running on
  Linux platform.
  Enjoy fighting udp1434.  LOL
  DT
  
  
   I don't think that's true. He could have been a victim of
 other people
   running Windows SQL Server 2000. From what I understand
 about the worm,
   it not only repicated itself to other unpatched systems,
 but it send
   gazillions of packets to random IP addresses to port 1434.
 Many ISPs and
   companies were affected by it, not just the dumb butts who
 don't patch
   their systems.
  
   Here, we didn't seem to be affected by it, though. Maybe
 because I
   didn't check until Saturday afternoon? But no complaints
 came in.
  
   Are others willing to share their experiences? It could be
 a good
   learning opportunity.
  
   Anyone have a link to a good technical document about the
 worm?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Priscilla
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RE: Muticast and RP [7:61950]

2003-01-27 Thread s vermill
Richard Burdette wrote:
 
 Just before I got your reply, I finally found a document on CCO
 that explained that I had to have the 'ip pim rp-address ...'
 configured on both routers which I did.  No I'm not seeing the
 earlier problem about not being able to join the Auto-RP router.

Unless you are interested in practicing with Auto-RP, I would just turn it
off.  It certainly isn't necessary or beneficial in your configuration. 
Static RP will do just fine.  I would remove any Auto-RP config from both
routers (at the very least until you get things working statically).

 
 As I was seeing before, I can see the multicast entry in the
 mroute table on the RP sever, but it is Pruned by the looks of
 it and it is not sending out the serial port to the other
 router...
 
 What could it be now?

It would help if we knew the IP scheme of your setup.  Maybe even configs. 
But start with static RP and see what that does for you.

 
 2620 Mroute
 
 2620#sho ip mroute
 IP Multicast Routing Table
 Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C
 - Connected,
L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag,
T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry,
X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP
 Advertisement,
U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, s -
 SSM
 Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched
 Timers: Uptime/Expires
 Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode
 
 (*, 239.255.255.250), 00:18:05/00:03:13, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: S
   Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
   Outgoing interface list:
 Serial0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:18:05/00:03:13
 
 (*, 224.0.1.40), 19:06:50/00:00:00, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJCL
   Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
   Outgoing interface list:
 Serial0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:55:50/00:02:57
 FastEthernet0/0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 19:06:50/00:02:45
 
 (*, 239.192.47.232), 00:00:04/00:02:59, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SP
   Incoming interface: Null, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
   Outgoing interface list: Null
 
 (10.1.1.2, 239.192.47.232), 00:00:06/00:02:59, flags: PT
   Incoming interface: FastEthernet0/0, RPF nbr 0.0.0.0
   Outgoing interface list: Null
 
 2514 Mroute
 
 2514#sho ip mroute
 IP Multicast Routing Table
 Flags: D - Dense, S - Sparse, B - Bidir Group, s - SSM Group, C
 - Connected,
L - Local, P - Pruned, R - RP-bit set, F - Register flag,
T - SPT-bit set, J - Join SPT, M - MSDP created entry,
X - Proxy Join Timer Running, A - Candidate for MSDP
 Advertisement,
U - URD, I - Received Source Specific Host Report, s -
 SSM
 Outgoing interface flags: H - Hardware switched
 Timers: Uptime/Expires
 Interface state: Interface, Next-Hop or VCD, State/Mode
 
 (*, 239.255.255.250), 00:19:03/00:01:59, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJC
   Incoming interface: Serial0, RPF nbr 20.1.1.1
   Outgoing interface list:
 Ethernet0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:19:03/00:01:59
 
 (*, 224.0.1.40), 00:34:45/00:00:00, RP 10.1.1.1, flags: SJCL
   Incoming interface: Serial0, RPF nbr 20.1.1.1
   Outgoing interface list:
 Ethernet0, Forward/Sparse-Dense, 00:34:45/00:02:03
 
 As you can see the 2620 is aware of the multicast stream from
 FE0/0, but it's Pruned and it's not putting it ouot to the 2514?




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Re: Multipoint/point-to-point(Fr ame-Relay) [7:61948]

2003-01-27 Thread Juntao
actually, what i meant to say, is the coworkers and i when we had projects
that output design comes out to be either P2M or P2P on subints, we usally
choose the latter.
if a corp already has P2M, then i would think that whoever designed the net
had enough good reasons that out weighted the benefits of P2P with subints.
u know sub ints came as another resolution to the issues of P2M.

Simmi Singla  a icrit dans le message de news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Juntao,
 Thanx for the input,
 what about the existing Frame-relay networks u mean to say that they will
be
 migrating to point-point sub-interfaces(networks).
 Might be more Input is required from experts here.Thanx once again.


 :)
 Juntao wrote:
 
  from what i've seen in enterprises, the trend seems to be going
  towards P2P
  with sub interfaces and ip unnumbered when needed, as it
  implies some
  trouble shooting constraints.
  i'm sure u know the issues that imply when using P2M(spilt
  horizon must be
  disabled, if your using EIGRP the bandwith command must
  reflrect the lowest
  cir of the pvc's used.)
  i'm sure others will comment on this
 
  hope the above helps
 
  Simmi Singla  a icrit dans le
  message de news:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Hi all,
   Generally what are mostly used in customer scenarios point to
  point or
   multipoint subinterfaces while confguring frame-relay.As U
  know all point
   -to point sub interface consumes lot no.of addreses all
  different
   subnets,although ip unnumbered is way to avoid this(ip
  unnumbered has the
   limitation of managing wan links which isp dont like) but
  still what isps
   prefer to suggest thier customers point to point or
  multipoint as of
   now.what is the general trend followed.




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Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Well, that's a good point. The UDP traffic jam probably didn't spread out to
the edges of the network, where the ATMs are, as I had been thinking. The
ATMs probably use private, non-routable addresses (non-routable over the
Internet anyway). The bottleneck was probably more in the core of BoA's
network.

Then again, mabye they do use some sort of VPN solution for their ATMs, but
I doubt that

Well, I better get back to work. The worm is becoming even more of a DoS
because so many network engineers are wasting time guessing about its
effects, rather than offering the services they should be! Just kidding.

Priscilla

John Neiberger wrote:
 
 Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is
 it
 common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data
 centers over
 the Internet?  We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even
 consider
 doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just
 that.
 
 Then again, they probably have twenty times more ATMs than we
 do, so
 perhaps they have different issues to be considered.
 
 John
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  1/27/03
 11:24:42 AM
 
 Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs?
 Probably
 very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of
 UDP
 packets.
 
 Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.
 
 But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry
 that
 private
 info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little
 to do
 with
 privacy compromises.
 
 Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm
 way
 off
 base! :-)
 
 Prisiclla
 
 Amazing wrote:
  
  what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who
  says tht BoA
  servers or any BoA database were comprimised?  who says they
  are even
  running MS-SQL?   Read how the worm is spreading and you will
  understand
  that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected
  by the worm.
  my guess is that a company with LARGE blocks of routable
  addresses and
  probably very high speed connections to the Internet might
 have
  bigger
  problems with this worm which in effect becomes a denial of
  service attack
  on their edge devices even if they are filtering out udp 1494
  at the edge.
  
  take a look at the post by Ken and observe what is happening
 to
  the CPU of
  one of his router blades.
  
  i definitely agree with your comment about the security con
  artist
  comparison the y2k consultants
  
  l0stbyte  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   the dumb butts are allowing access to SQL from public
  networks. how
   difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on
  private
   networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc.
 Y2K
  all
   over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists
  claiming to
   be security experts.
  
   Cheers...
  
   P.S. There was a news clip that BofA networks were effected.
  this is
  scary.
  
   l0stbyte
   Symon Thurlow wrote:
Cheers,
   
Symon
   
-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 January 2003 20:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]
   
   
d tran wrote:
   
   You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you
  decided to
   scrap the shitty MS SQL server, running on crappy Windows
  machine and
   replace it
   MySQL (freeware) or real commercial database products like
   Oracle, running on
   Linux platform.
   Enjoy fighting udp1434.  LOL
   DT
   
   
I don't think that's true. He could have been a victim of
  other people
running Windows SQL Server 2000. From what I understand
  about the worm,
it not only repicated itself to other unpatched systems,
  but it send
gazillions of packets to random IP addresses to port 1434.
  Many ISPs and
companies were affected by it, not just the dumb butts who
  don't patch
their systems.
   
Here, we didn't seem to be affected by it, though. Maybe
  because I
didn't check until Saturday afternoon? But no complaints
  came in.
   
Are others willing to share their experiences? It could be
  a good
learning opportunity.
   
Anyone have a link to a good technical document about the
  worm?
   
Thanks,
   
Priscilla
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Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, it is relatively unheard of. Transaction data almost always (and I say
that because I cannot categorically say always) travels on dedicated
circuits. A lot has been made over this for some reason, and I have not
seen an official explanation from Bof Afor all I know it could have
been routine work on BofA's part that knocked them out of service, like a
code upgrade or somethingwe all know THAT never happens...(admittedly
it's probably not the case, the timing is too coincidental, but all the
facts aren't in yet, or if they are, they haven't been made available as
far as I know)


   

John
Neiberger
 
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01/27/2003 01:51
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Please respond
to
John
Neiberger
   

   





Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it
common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over
the Internet?  We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider
doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just that.

Then again, they probably have twenty times more ATMs than we do, so
perhaps they have different issues to be considered.

John

 Priscilla Oppenheimer  1/27/03 11:24:42 AM

Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs?
Probably
very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP
packets.

Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.

But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that
private
info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little to do
with
privacy compromises.

Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm way
off
base! :-)

Prisiclla

Amazing wrote:

 what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who
 says tht BoA
 servers or any BoA database were comprimised?  who says they
 are even
 running MS-SQL?   Read how the worm is spreading and you will
 understand
 that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected
 by the worm.
 my guess is that a company with LARGE blocks of routable
 addresses and
 probably very high speed connections to the Internet might have
 bigger
 problems with this worm which in effect becomes a denial of
 service attack
 on their edge devices even if they are filtering out udp 1494
 at the edge.

 take a look at the post by Ken and observe what is happening to
 the CPU of
 one of his router blades.

 i definitely agree with your comment about the security con
 artist
 comparison the y2k consultants

 l0stbyte  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  the dumb butts are allowing access to SQL from public
 networks. how
  difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on
 private
  networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K
 all
  over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists
 claiming to
  be security experts.
 
  Cheers...
 
  P.S. There was a news clip that BofA networks were effected.
 this is
 scary.
 
  l0stbyte
  Symon Thurlow wrote:
   Cheers,
  
   Symon
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 26 January 2003 20:02
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]
  
  
   d tran wrote:
  
  You wouldn't have to fight the udp 1434 problem had you
 decided to
  scrap the shitty MS SQL server, running on crappy Windows
 machine and
  replace it
  MySQL (freeware) or real commercial database products like
  Oracle, running on
  Linux platform.
  Enjoy fighting udp1434.  LOL
  DT
  
  
   I don't think that's true. He could have been a victim of
 other people
   running Windows SQL Server 2000. From what I understand
 about the worm,
   it not only repicated itself to other unpatched systems,
 but it send
   gazillions of packets to random IP addresses to port 1434.
 Many ISPs and
   companies were affected by it, not just the dumb butts who
 don't patch
   their systems.
  
   Here, we didn't seem to be affected by it, though. Maybe
 because I
   didn't check until Saturday afternoon? But no complaints
 came in.
  
   Are others willing to share their experiences? It could be
 a good
   learning opportunity.
  
   Anyone have a link to a good 

Re: OSPF to Internet Q [7:61823]

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Ringley
Yes, it is an Internet ASBR, there are others, and its only purpose is to
advertise a default route + local DMZ into OSPF.  The ASBR would get a
default route from BGP.  In turn the ISP is advertising a default route via
BGP into the outside router.  The plan is that if the ISP stops advertising
at this point, then the default route advertisement from one of the other
ISP connection points will take over.  I see it that it really depends on
how much equipment is between the real backbone and the ISP connection.


Howard C. Berkowitz  wrote in message
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At 6:56 PM + 1/26/03, Steve Ringley wrote:
I understand that there are many ways to, umm, do you-know-what to the cat,
but what I am looking for is a higher guiding philosophy or rule to use as
a
foundation to guide the rest of the process.  My understanding of the
high-level OSPF process is that OSPF wants to route traffic from area a to
area b via area 0.  This in turn in part is why having destinations like
the
server farm in area 0 is bad in my mind.


Completely true.

Given that process, should OSPF
have an area between area 0 and the ASBR point, or does it internally treat
the ASBR as another area thus meaning the ASBR can be directly with area 0.


Again, it depends on several factors.  Is the ASBR going to the
Internet?  Is there more than one point of connection to the Internet?

How much external information are you going to leak into your IGP?
Just closest-exit default? Preferential default depending on
provider?  If you have multiple connection points, what's the cost of
internal bandwidth?

IN GENERAL, I put Internet ASBRs in Area 0.0.0.0, but I've also put
them elsewhere for policy- and requirement-specific reasons. There
really is no general rule for the real world.


Howard C. Berkowitz  wrote in message
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At 8:56 PM + 1/25/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Steve Ringley wrote:

   That is why I am asking the question - it is unclear!  Let me
   try it this
   way:

   If we take the textbook Internet setup, we would have an

   outside router - BGP
   firewall
   inside router - OSPF ASBR to BGP
   core router - OSPF backbone

   On the inside router, would I create an ASBR with area 0
   defined on the
   inside to core connection

   or

   Would I create an new OSPF area to define the connection
   between the inside
router and the core router?

Steve, this is rapidly becoming a question not of how the protocol
works, but what you are trying to accomplish -- and a number of
aspects of how you connect to the Internet, get address space, etc.
I agree with Priscilla that there are various ways to do this -- just
taking the textbook (well, not MY textbooks *g*) model isn't enough
when you have multiple connections.


I think you could do either one. Your core router connects (downwards in
your picture) to Area 0 (the OSPF backbone), right?

So, does your question boil down to whether the link between the inside
router and the core router should be in Area 0 or a new Area? I think you
could do it either way.



   There are several of these types of connections in the larger
   network, and
   there is an expectation that if one of these goes down the OSPF
   and BGP will
   figure it out and shift traffic to the working connections.

OSPF should figure out which routes to the ASBRs are up. Your inside
routers
should inject an ASBR Summary LSA into Area 0 to make sure other routers
know about the routes to the ASBRs.

I don't think BGP is involved at this point. It sounds like you just run
that to the outside world.

You'll need to consider how traffic gets back in to.

So, this is large-scale design, I'm realizing. You need more help than I
can
give! :-) Maybe Peter, Howard, Chuck, etc. could pipe in, or maybe do some
paid consulting work for you!?


Some of the questions that would need to be answered even to begin a
coherent design include:

 -- To how many providers do you connect?
 -- Do you connect to any provider at more than one point?
 -- Does your registered address space come from provider(s), or is it
provider-independent?
 -- How good is your address plan with respect to area summarization?
 -- What is your monetary cost for access to providers as opposed to
internal bandwidth inside your network?  For example, do you have
enough bandwidth that it makes sense to backhaul to a distant
provider
access point, or should you always take the closest exit?
 -- Is the closest exit always the best exit?
 -- What are the bandwidths and monetary costs of your provider
connections?
 -- What are your availability requirements?  Cost of downtime,
including
a breakout of cost for mission-critical applications?


Priscilla


   Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote in
   message
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   I'm afraid your question isn't clear.

   By definition, an 

RE: Simple Question [7:61830]

2003-01-27 Thread Waters, Kristina
It does look like cisco might be phasing out the set based interface. The
newer sup engines come with the ios based int.

Kristina L. Waters
LAN/WAN Engineer
www.absfirst.com 

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were
to success when they gave up. 
Thomas A. Edison 




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Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Simple Question [7:61830]


As you have seen from the replies this is rather fluid.  Many of the
traditionally set-based switches are now getting software updates that
convert them to IOS switches.  What may be important here that seems to be
missing from the discussion so far is that my CiscoPress CCNP/DP study
material generally equated CLI to Set-Based, not IOS.

Bill  wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I have a simple question.

I am confused about hearing about these three things:
1) IOS-BASED SWITCHES
2) CLI-BASED SWITCHES
3) SET-BASED SWITCHES

Now, can somebody very accurately classify what these mean and categorise
the common switches into the three groups?

Im not even sure if there are 3 groups or only 2. If its 2, then it means
that two of the above groups mean one and the same.

Thank You
Bill

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RE: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread Paul Forbes
One interesting assumption (underline assumption) is that BofA's service
providers were partially sharing facilities between their private
(ATM/FR) and public (Internet) networks. If that's the case, once the
CPU on some of those shared routers/switches went to 100%, BofA's
automatic teller machines are going to disappear.

Paul Forbes
Network Engineer
Trimble


 -Original Message-
 From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]
 
 
 Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it
 common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over
 the Internet?  We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider
 doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just that.
 
 Then again, they probably have twenty times more ATMs than we do, so
 perhaps they have different issues to be considered.
 
 John
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer  1/27/03 11:24:42 AM
 
 Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs?
 Probably
 very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP
 packets.
 
 Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.
 
 But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that
 private
 info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little to do
 with
 privacy compromises.
 
 Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm way
 off
 base! :-)




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Re: ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]

2003-01-27 Thread ericbrouwers
I do not foresee any problems, maybe others do?

I just find the design guideline below too strict. In small networks there
may be only one OSPF area, but larger networks typically have more areas.
Connections to the Internet or to other external networks like corporate
networks, tend to be on routers in the edge/distribution layer of the
network. Those routers are in OSPF areas different to zero (al least in the
OSPF designs I have seen so far).

Also Cisco advises to connect 'the Internet' in the distribution layer (in
the DCN and CID courses).

So for example for designs where three or four core routers are fully meshed
in OSPF area 0, and the surrounding distribution layer devices belong the
area x, with x/=0, the ASBR will not be connected to area 0.

I also noticed a similar question in the thread called OSPF to Internet.

Eric Brouwers

- Original Message -
From: 
To: ericbrouwers 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]



 What kind of problem do you see putting the ASBR on the backbone area?

 Just to think about.





 ericbrouwers @groupstudy.com em 22/01/2003
 18:45:17

 Favor responder a ericbrouwers 

 Enviado Por:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:

 Assunto:ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]


 Hi there,

 Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide advises to place an
ASBR
 in
 the backbone area (p. 290, chapter 6):

 ... If there is any redistribution between other protocols to OSPF on a
 router, it will be an ASBR. Although you can place this router anywhere in
 the
 OSPF hierarchical design, it should reside in the backbone area. Because
 any
 traffic leaving the OSPF domain will also likely leave the router's area,
 it
 makes sense to place the ASBR in a central location that all traffic
 leaving
 its area must traverse...

 I find this a strange design guideline. I would rather prefer to connect
an
 external network to the edge/distribution layer in an OSPF area different
 to
 the backbone area. As a consequence redistribution would happen outside
the
 backbone area...

 What's your view on this?

 Eric Brouwers




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BellSouth DSL /PIX [7:61981]

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Smith
Is anyone successfully using a PIX to do NAT with BellSouth DSL service?
If so can you PLEASE help me with my config?

Steve Smith
Enterprise Engineer
TEKSELL
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Re: OSPF to Internet Q [7:61823]

2003-01-27 Thread ericbrouwers
Steve,

 Yes, it is an Internet ASBR, there are others, and its only purpose is to
 advertise a default route + local DMZ into OSPF.  The ASBR would get a
 default route from BGP.  In turn the ISP is advertising a default route
via
 BGP into the outside router.  The plan is that if the ISP stops
advertising
 at this point, then the default route advertisement from one of the other
 ISP connection points will take over.  I see it that it really depends on
 how much equipment is between the real backbone and the ISP connection.

I had a similar question like you, see mail below, where a Cisco Press
author proposes to connect an (Internet) ASBR to the OSPF backbone area.

It's good to hear that there doesn't seem to be a general design
guideline...Lots of freedom...
;-)
Eric


- Original Message -
From: ericbrouwers 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]


 I do not foresee any problems, maybe others do?

 I just find the design guideline below too strict. In small networks there
 may be only one OSPF area, but larger networks typically have more areas.
 Connections to the Internet or to other external networks like corporate
 networks, tend to be on routers in the edge/distribution layer of the
 network. Those routers are in OSPF areas different to zero (al least in
the
 OSPF designs I have seen so far).

 Also Cisco advises to connect 'the Internet' in the distribution layer (in
 the DCN and CID courses).

 So for example for designs where three or four core routers are fully
meshed
 in OSPF area 0, and the surrounding distribution layer devices belong the
 area x, with x/=0, the ASBR will not be connected to area 0.

 I also noticed a similar question in the thread called OSPF to Internet.

 Eric Brouwers

 - Original Message -
 From:
 To: ericbrouwers
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]


 
  What kind of problem do you see putting the ASBR on the backbone area?
 
  Just to think about.
 
 
 
 
 
  ericbrouwers @groupstudy.com em 22/01/2003
  18:45:17
 
  Favor responder a ericbrouwers
 
  Enviado Por:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
 
  Assunto:ASBR in backbone area?? [7:61614]
 
 
  Hi there,
 
  Cisco Press' CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide advises to place an
 ASBR
  in
  the backbone area (p. 290, chapter 6):
 
  ... If there is any redistribution between other protocols to OSPF on a
  router, it will be an ASBR. Although you can place this router anywhere
in
  the
  OSPF hierarchical design, it should reside in the backbone area. Because
  any
  traffic leaving the OSPF domain will also likely leave the router's
area,
  it
  makes sense to place the ASBR in a central location that all traffic
  leaving
  its area must traverse...
 
  I find this a strange design guideline. I would rather prefer to connect
 an
  external network to the edge/distribution layer in an OSPF area
different
  to
  the backbone area. As a consequence redistribution would happen outside
 the
  backbone area...
 
  What's your view on this?
 
  Eric Brouwers




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One arm routing?? with a Cisco 2500 router and a Cicso catalyst [7:61983]

2003-01-27 Thread tafnap
I am working on a home network lab and I was wondering is it possible to 
  take my DSL connection and connect it though my switch to my router 
then back to my switch via a one routing type setup?

I have been playing with it for a couple days and can't get the vlans 
setup and working properly on my switch or router to route the traffic 
via two vlans...any thoughts?




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Re: OSPF to Internet Q [7:61823]

2003-01-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Yes, it is an Internet ASBR, there are others, and its only purpose is to
advertise a default route + local DMZ into OSPF.  The ASBR would get a
default route from BGP.  In turn the ISP is advertising a default route via
BGP into the outside router.  The plan is that if the ISP stops advertising
at this point, then the default route advertisement from one of the other
ISP connection points will take over.  I see it that it really depends on
how much equipment is between the real backbone and the ISP connection.


Can I assume, then, that you only want one active access point at a 
given time, OR that you want any given area to take the closest 
default based on OSPF internal cost?




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Inquiring Minds want to know [7:61985]

2003-01-27 Thread Kazan, Naim
What kind of problems if any will occur if we had a nic card set to
auto-sense along with the cat port?

Naim Kazan
FISC-SDS
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Re: Inquiring Minds want to know [7:61985]

2003-01-27 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
Kazan, Naim wrote:

 What kind of problems if any will occur if we had a nic card set to
 auto-sense along with the cat port?

In principle, none. In practice, you run the risk of a duplex mismatch, 
where either the NIC or the switch port goes to full duplex, and the 
other to half.

Regards,

Marco.




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Re: Inquiring Minds want to know [7:61985]

2003-01-27 Thread John Neiberger
If you have a relatively new NIC with updated drivers, and assuming that
both devices conform to the FastEthernet specs, they should
autonegotiate to 100Mbps, full duplex.

John

 Kazan, Naim  1/27/03 2:23:08 PM 
What kind of problems if any will occur if we had a nic card set to
auto-sense along with the cat port?

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Re: One arm routing?? with a Cisco 2500 router and a Cicso [7:61988]

2003-01-27 Thread Larry Letterman
that type of setup should be done with an ISL/Dot1q trunk, I
dont believe 2500 routers
are capable of that type of function on 10Bt interfaces...

You could however split the DSL connection by aggregating
the dsl into one vlan
on the switch, then connecting a crossover to other vlans.
That will allow several
networks to use the DSL at the same time, providing you have
more than one IP...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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From: tafnap 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: One arm routing?? with a Cisco 2500 router and a
Cicso catalyst [7:61983]


 I am working on a home network lab and I was wondering is
it possible to
   take my DSL connection and connect it though my switch
to my router
 then back to my switch via a one routing type setup?

 I have been playing with it for a couple days and can't
get the vlans
 setup and working properly on my switch or router to route
the traffic
 via two vlans...any thoughts?
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Re: Inquiring Minds want to know [7:61985]

2003-01-27 Thread Michael Williams
Exactly.  I don't have it off the top of my head, but there's an article on
Cisco site talking about this.  Basically, if both ends are autodetect, you
should get 100/Full.  The main thing to be careful of is when one end if
auto and the other is forced to full duplex (regardless of speed).  There's
a problem with duplex autodetection when the other end is forced, and so the
autodetect will default to half, which is fine if the end that's forced is
forced to half, but not if it's forced to full.  So basically, the main
scenario where you can get bit is if one end if auto and the other is forced
to full (i.e. you *will* end up with a duplex mismatch).  All other
situations will resolve themselves properly.

Mike W.


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RE: Show me the meaning [7:61787]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Steve Sewa wrote:
 
 Drew,
 
 H shows you the list of neighbors in the order in which they
 were learned.

Or should we say the horder in which they were learned? :-) Seriously,
what was Cisco thinking to label a column H with  no explanation in any of
their documentation what H means. I still can't figure out what it's short
for, though thank-you for telling us what the column means. Maybe
hierarchy??

Sometimes they take their philosophy of no need to consider user
friendliness just a bit too far (see John N.'s rant too).

Anyway, thank-you for the information. 

Priscilla

 
 Routing TCP/IP Volume 1, Pg. 334.
 
 Regards,
 
 - Steve
 
 
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 Behalf Of
 Ellis, Andrew
 Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Show me the meaning [7:61787]
 
 
 Hi folks,
 
 In looking at the following, can anyone tell me the meaning of
 the H (to the
 left of Address) in this display?
 
 I cannot find it on Cisco's website. They explain everything
 else but that.
 
 
 Router-1#show ip eigrp neighbors
 IP-EIGRP neighbors for process 100
 H   Address Interface   Hold Uptime   SRTT  
 RTO  Q  Seq
 Type
 (sec)
 (ms)   Cnt Num
 1   172.20.1.4  Fa10/0/0  10 01:37:561  
 200  0  17
 0   172.20.1.3  Fa10/0/0  12 1w0d1  
 300  0  10972
 3   172.27.10.16Gi0/0/7   14 8w5d6  
 200  0  10979
 2   192.192.3.9 Gi0/0/0   10 10w2d  13  
 200  0  11357
 
 Thanks
 
 Drew
 
 




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RE: NT4.0 password crack tool [7:61807]

2003-01-27 Thread Evans, TJ (BearingPoint)
Why not use LinNT?
... boot off of a linux floppy, reset admin password and boot up with new
password.

Since you are (presumably) not trying to be sneaky _and_ you have direct
access to the machine changing the PW should not be a problem, yes?

Oh - and it is free, and works with WinNT4 - WinXP.


Thanks!
TJ
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Why do a command line?  Just rename user manager to logon.scr and reboot
(you'll need NTFSDOS Pro) and in 15 minutes you get user manager with root
perms.

Imagination is more important than knowledge
 
Albert Einstein


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u'r talking about nt4 login passwords, the SAM database? lophtcrack works,
it takes a long time though systernals has tools to login to the box, and
change things. u can also change cmd.exe to the default screen savec name,
the command line will pope up after a while, after reboot. and change the
password with the net user command if the server or the box is part of the
global admin group, i'm sure u know u can change the password or reset it,
even just with, user manager for domains. and there is of course a lot of
other things that can be done, depending on ur situation.

hope the above helps
regards

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RADIUS command accounting [7:61990]

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Newton
I know that for the longest time Cisco didn't support aaa accounting of
commands to be sent to a RADIUS server. It was supported via TACACS+ but not
RADIUS. I have seen recently that this has changed (in O'Reilly's book on
hardening routers and in a couple different lists).

Does anyone have any information on this? Is it true? What is the minimum
version of IOS (I have heard 12.2)? Do you need a specific RADIUS server?

I know that moving to TACACS+ would fix my problem, but staying with Radius
would be preferable.

TIA




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RE: can't fix 100 speed on 3550 gigabite switch [7:61933]

2003-01-27 Thread mjans001
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The
WS-C3550-12T 10-10/100/1000BaseT ports and 2 GBIC ports 

Has no 100 setting on the GBIC.

What do you have on the other side to want to set the speed at 100?

Martijn

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Onderwerp: can't fix 100 speed on 3550 gigabite switch [7:61933]


Hi.. I found that I can't set my gigabit switch port speed to 100?  Why??  
How to do it???

cat35-L8-1#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
cat35-L8-1(config)#int gi0/12 cat35-L8-1(config-if)#speed 100
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

cat35-L8-1(config-if)#speed ?
  nonegotiate  Do not negotiate speed

cat35-L8-1(config-if)#speed

cat35-L8-1#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3550 Software (C3550-I5Q3L2-M), Version 12.1(6)EA1, RELEASE 
SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 09-Oct-01 21:46 by devgoyal
Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base: 0x00617E14

ROM: Bootstrap program is C3550 boot loader

cat35-L8-1 uptime is 3 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 46 minutes System returned
to ROM by power-on System image file is
flash:c3550-i5q3l2-mz.121-6.EA1/c3550-i5q3l2-mz.121-6.EA1.bin

cisco WS-C3550-12T (PowerPC) processor (revision A0) with 65526K/8192K bytes 
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RE: ciscoworks2000 [7:61362]

2003-01-27 Thread Amr Essam
Try to make the logging source to the loopback of ur router
But in this case do u mean the ciscoview or you are trying to get a log
from the router 
Better check with router log if it already catches the snmp auth.
Request from the ciscoworks
If it doesn't so there is a problem on the server 


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Subject: ciscoworks2000 [7:61362]

hi ciscobuddy's


  how r u doing all? i phasing 1 problem at the time
of CiscoWorks2000 installation..

i installed cd1 and campusmanager 3.1. install patch
for CD1. at the time of Discovery icisco devices
getting unreachable..
Trying to discover 6509 3 core switch's. 1 ore switch
is VTP Server and 2 are clients.Ciscoserver is
connected to Client Core.

Following is the conf for SNMP 

snmp-server community ro .
snmp-server trpa enable
logging on
logging  server ip address

please advise me..it's very urgent..

Thanks  Regards,
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RE: Inquiring Minds want to know [7:61985]

2003-01-27 Thread Kazan, Naim
Thank you guys for your help. I did a search on Cisco and came up with a
good article.

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Exactly.  I don't have it off the top of my head, but there's an article on
Cisco site talking about this.  Basically, if both ends are autodetect, you
should get 100/Full.  The main thing to be careful of is when one end if
auto and the other is forced to full duplex (regardless of speed).  There's
a problem with duplex autodetection when the other end is forced, and so the
autodetect will default to half, which is fine if the end that's forced is
forced to half, but not if it's forced to full.  So basically, the main
scenario where you can get bit is if one end if auto and the other is forced
to full (i.e. you *will* end up with a duplex mismatch).  All other
situations will resolve themselves properly.

Mike W.




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RE: One arm routing?? with a Cisco 2500 router and a Cicso [7:61997]

2003-01-27 Thread Lupi, Guy
You may also want to have a look at this link NAT on a stick:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
094430.shtml

It isn't one arm routing, but you should be able to connect your dsl to your
switch, your router to your switch, and make this work without vlans while
using multiple computers behind it.  Let me know if you get it to work, I
have never tried it but always wanted to.

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[7:61988]


that type of setup should be done with an ISL/Dot1q trunk, I
dont believe 2500 routers
are capable of that type of function on 10Bt interfaces...

You could however split the DSL connection by aggregating
the dsl into one vlan
on the switch, then connecting a crossover to other vlans.
That will allow several
networks to use the DSL at the same time, providing you have
more than one IP...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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From: tafnap 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: One arm routing?? with a Cisco 2500 router and a
Cicso catalyst [7:61983]


 I am working on a home network lab and I was wondering is
it possible to
   take my DSL connection and connect it though my switch
to my router
 then back to my switch via a one routing type setup?

 I have been playing with it for a couple days and can't
get the vlans
 setup and working properly on my switch or router to route
the traffic
 via two vlans...any thoughts?
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RE: Help,token ring connection without mau [7:61954]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ha wrote:
 
 hi
 can 2 token ring interface direct connected with a crcoss
 cable.i've
 carefully read the pinout at CCO and make sure it's right,but
 it did not
 work.
 must i buy a MAU to let them work correctly?
 thanks for your help

Token Ring uses an active repeater, i.e. a MAU. A NIC sends to its
downstream neighbor and receives from its upstream neighbor. For this to
happen, a relay, i.e. a MAU, must relay the bits. A MAU is basically a set
of relays.

Well, that's a convoluted way to say you need a MAU. You can probably get
one really cheap on e-Bay.

Priscilla

 
 




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Internet Access Through Cisco VPN Concentrator? [7:61999]

2003-01-27 Thread Herlocker, Tim
Just curious Does anybody know how well the default gateway setting in
the Cisco 3005 concentrator works? I want to make sure my VPN clients can
access the internet while on VPN by having the concentrator route all the
internet traffic through the default gateway. Thanks!

- Tim




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lab date --- 10/15/2003 [7:62000]

2003-01-27 Thread nettable_walker
1/27/2003 5:55pm   Monday

Has anyone been to the CCIE R/S lab recently who might want to offer some
general suggestions on what to study (besides the obvious BGP  ISIS) ?

Thanks,




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RE: Internet Access Through Cisco VPN Concentrator? [7:61999]

2003-01-27 Thread Joseph Brunner
Yes. Do it all the time. I also use it as a remote office router
for other clients on the lan behind the 3005.

It has great built in nat functionality (PAT REALLY !). Along with
filter lists for security your set.

But for clients, just enable split tunneling. Let them get to
the internet directly. Saves you bandwidth and overhead.


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Re: MPLS Traffic Engineering - 2500 router reset [7:61947]

2003-01-27 Thread Charles
one of the things you have to do is use enable rsvp on all interfaces that
will take part in the tunnel ... rsvp is used to 'reserve bandwidth for the
tunnel' - the tunnel won't come up unless you do this

I think the command is either 'rsvp bandwidth' or 'rsvp-bandwidth' 


 wrote in message
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 After the command tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic,  the
 router reloads.

 The same happen with explicit path.

 The following message appear after reload: RSVP: must configure RSVP
 Bandwidth first.

 Any idea?



R3

ip cef
mpls traffic-eng tunnels
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.255
 ip router isis
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 fair-queue 64 64 64
 ip rsvp signalling dscp 0
!
interface Serial0.32 point-to-point
 bandwidth 1000
 ip address 192.168.23.2 255.255.255.0
 ip router isis
 mpls traffic-eng tunnels
 frame-relay interface-dlci 132
 ip rsvp bandwidth 500 500
!
interface Tunnel0
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 tunnel destination 2.2.2.2
 tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng
 tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce
 tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 7 7
 tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth  100
!
router isis
 net 47....0003.00
 is-type level-1
 metric-style wide
 mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0
 mpls traffic-eng level-1
!
end


   R2

   ip cef
   mpls traffic-eng tunnels
   !
   interface Loopback0
ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255
ip router isis
   !
   interface Serial0
no ip address
encapsulation frame-relay
fair-queue 64 64 64
ip rsvp signalling dscp 0
   !
   interface Serial0.23 point-to-point
bandwidth 1000
ip address 192.168.23.1 255.255.255.0
ip router isis
mpls traffic-eng tunnels
frame-relay interface-dlci 123
ip rsvp bandwidth 500 500
   !
   interface Tunnel0
ip unnumbered Loopback0
tunnel destination 3.3.3.3
tunnel mode mpls traffic-eng
tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce
tunnel mpls traffic-eng priority 7 7
tunnel mpls traffic-eng bandwidth  100
   !
   router isis
net 47....0002.00
is-type level-1
metric-style wide
mpls traffic-eng router-id Loopback0
mpls traffic-eng level-1
   !
   end




   R3(config-if)#tunnel mpls traffic-eng path-option 1 dynamic
   R3(config-if)#
   Buffered messages:

   00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to up
   00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Ethernet1, changed state to up
   00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to up
   00:00:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to down
   00:00:07: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
   changed sta
   te to up
   00:00:15: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0,
   changed s
   tate to up
   00:00:15: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet1,
   changed s
   tate to down
   00:00:19: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0,
   changed sta
   te to down
   00:00:21: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet0, changed state to
   administrativ
   ely down
   00:00:22: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Ethernet1, changed state to
   administrativ
   ely down
   00:00:22: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
   changed sta
   te to up
   00:00:22: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Ethernet0,
   changed s
   tate to down
   00:00:25: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial1, changed state to
   administrativel
   y down
   00:00:26: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1,
   changed sta
   te to down
   00:00:27: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
   00:01:12: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
   Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
   IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-P-L), Experimental Version
   12.0(20011017:155337)
[rraszuk-New_reorg_oct17 109]
   Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc.
   Compiled Sat 20-Oct-01 04:12 by rraszuk
   00:03:41: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
   Queued messages:
   System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c)XB2, PLATFORM SPECIFIC RELEASE
   SOFTWARE (fc
   1)
   Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems
   2500 processor with 14336 Kbytes of main memory

   %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configurations from version 12.0 may not be
   correctly und
   erstood.
   %FR-5-DLCICHANGE: Interface Serial0 - DLCI 132 state changed to
   ACTIVE
   

Re: Help,token ring connection without mau [7:61954]

2003-01-27 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
Not to mention that a TR card goes through a lobe test before attempting
insertion into the ring.  The lobe test is effectively a loopback at the
MAU, a crossover cannot do this.
rgds
Marc

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 ha wrote:
 
  hi
  can 2 token ring interface direct connected with a crcoss
  cable.i've
  carefully read the pinout at CCO and make sure it's right,but
  it did not
  work.
  must i buy a MAU to let them work correctly?
  thanks for your help
 
 Token Ring uses an active repeater, i.e. a MAU. A NIC sends to its
 downstream neighbor and receives from its upstream neighbor. For this to
 happen, a relay, i.e. a MAU, must relay the bits. A MAU is basically a set
 of relays.
 
 Well, that's a convoluted way to say you need a MAU. You can probably get
 one really cheap on e-Bay.
 
 Priscilla




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Just want to know [7:62004]

2003-01-27 Thread Azhar Teza
Lot of custmers have been hit by SQL 2 virus regardless of having a PIX in
their networks.  I am just curios,if by default all packets are denied from
outside to inside unless one opens it manually through
conduit/access-list,what is it good to apply access-list to block such port
1433 and 1434. 2) Shouldn't these ports are disabled by default since
traffic is coming from outside.  If it is then how the virusentered the
network. Please shed some lights. Teza

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RE: RADIUS command accounting [7:62005]

2003-01-27 Thread Ronald Fugate
I am using radius and tacacs in different environments.
The radius environments include pix 525's and 535's with 6.2.2(100) code.
Some of the pix's are passing the authentication, authorization and
accounting to Vacman (Vasco), and the rest to cisco ACS server (proxy the
authentication to a radius server).

The accounting commands on the pix's point to the ACS and Vacman servers.
On these servers we are logging the accounting data.

The management for the network gear is setup for AAA using tacacs to an ACS
server.

This is so much easier to setup than radius.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Ccielab; Group Study
Subject: RADIUS command accounting

I know that for the longest time Cisco didn't support aaa accounting of
commands to be sent to a RADIUS server. It was supported via TACACS+ but not
RADIUS. I have seen recently that this has changed (in O'Reilly's book on
hardening routers and in a couple different lists).

Does anyone have any information on this? Is it true? What is the minimum
version of IOS (I have heard 12.2)? Do you need a specific RADIUS server?

I know that moving to TACACS+ would fix my problem, but staying with Radius
would be preferable.

TIA
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RE: Just want to know [7:62004]

2003-01-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Azhar Teza wrote:
 
 Lot of custmers have been hit by SQL 2 virus regardless of
 having a PIX in their networks.  I am just curios,if by default
 all packets are denied from outside to inside unless one opens
 it manually through conduit/access-list,what is it good to
 apply access-list to block such port 1433 and 1434. 2)
 Shouldn't these ports are disabled by default since traffic is
 coming from outside.  If it is then how the virusentered the
 network. 

The virus might not have entered their network, but a huge amount of
incoming traffic to port 1434 could have completely congested their Internet
link and caused the PIX to have very high CPU utilization.

Priscilla

Please shed some lights. Teza
 
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why I can't assign an ip address to virtual-TokenR [7:62007]

2003-01-27 Thread soft map
Hi.

Now I take a test,The test Router is Cisco2611XM,I was upgraded the IOS.But
why I can't assign an ip address to virtual-TokenRing 0


test(config)#inter virtual-TokenRing 0
test(config-if)#ip add
test(config-if)#ip address 17
17:46:26: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Virtual-TokenRing0, changed state to up
17:46:27: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface 
Virtual-TokenRing0, ch
anged state to up
test(config-if)#ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0

% IP addresses may not be configured on a Virtual-TokenRing interface.

test(config-if)#


BTW,The show version as below.

test#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-DO3S-M), Version 12.1(14), RELEASE SOFTWARE 
(fc1)

Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Mon 25-Mar-02 23:18 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x80E4DE34

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.2(7r) [cmong 7r], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

test uptime is 17 hours, 49 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c2600-do3s-mz.121-14.bin

cisco 2611XM (MPC860) processor (revision 0x100) with 29696K/3072K bytes of 
memo
ry.
Processor board ID xxx
M860 processor: part number 5, mask 2
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
2 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102


thx.
softmap



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must I have aaa server to configure SSH on PIX? [7:62008]

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Campbell
Hi.. I want to configure SSH on PIX 515 which has DES enabled.  I saw the 
configuration as follows.  But the problem is I don't have the aaa server in 
my network?  Can I still implement SSH without aaa server.  I configured it 
without the aaa command line, but it doesn't works.  How should I do?  
Thanks a lot..!!

pix#conf t
pix(config)#
pix(config)#domain domain_name
pix(config)#ca generate rsa key 1024
pix(config)# ca save all
pix(config)# ssh ip_address subnet_mask interface
pix(config)# aaa-server RadiusServer_name (inside) host ip_address MySecure 
--aaa
pix(config)# aaa-server RadiusServer_name protocol radius ---aaa
pix(config)# aaa authenticate ssh console RadiusServer_name ---aaa
Pix(config)# exit



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Re: UDP port 1434 [7:61891]

2003-01-27 Thread The Long and Winding Road
John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Maybe this is a silly question considering where I work, but is it
 common for huge banks to connect their ATMs to their data centers over
 the Internet?  We certainly don't do that, and wouldn't even consider
 doing it, so I was surprised that BofA appears to be doing just that.

 Then again, they probably have twenty times more ATMs than we do, so
 perhaps they have different issues to be considered.


Well, let's apply some logic and reason to what we know about the saphire
work and the BOA situation.

Saphire is launched from compromised Microsoft SQL servers. The attach
consists of generating IP traffic using UDP port 1434. The traffic consists
of the inquiries to what is described as pseudo random ip addresses, and
the ICMP replies to the traffic inquiries.

Knowing these things, we might guess that BOA, like many other businesses,
has Microsoft SQL servers.

1) Could those servers have been compromised? sure

2) could those compromised servers have been involved in generting tons of
traffic internal to BOA, even without the internet being involved? sure.

3) could routers on the internal BOA network, routers that carry IP
trraffic, also be carrying other traffic such as would be carrying ATM
transactions? sure.

4) recognizing that router overloads were happening everywhere as a result
of saphire, is it reasonable to think that the BOA network routers could
have been adversely effect, even if the internet were not involved? sure.

5) add to that what was happening on the internet. rogue SQL servers sending
their attacks randomly, and some of that traffic hitting the BOA internet
edge, and maybe being NAT'ed inside to add to traffic problems happening
already.

Look, when Nimda hit a year or so ago, some organizations just started
turning things off in order to control what was happening. I seem to recall
BOA did so, but to be frank, I am not certain of that.

I don't think it is a good idea to jump to a lot of conclusions here. I
highly doubt that even a stupid organization like Bank of America would be
running their ATM's across the internet ( just kidding, pals of mine who
work for BOA ) It is all too easy for corporate networks to come down in
situations created by Nimda or saphire.

in an earlier message, Ken spoke about his own network, where there are few
if any Microsoft SQL servers. Yet their internet links were saturated
because of the attacks, and internal network replies.

The key to protecting networks is understanding the nature of the threat.

BTW, there is a serious suggestion from someone on NANOG about denying any
and all Microsoft well known ports across the internet backbone. good idea?
I'm starting to think so.

What I hope is that attacks based on ports 80 and / or 53 aren't developed.
Thin how devastating those might be :-O







 John

  Priscilla Oppenheimer  1/27/03 11:24:42 AM
 
 Good points. How much bandwidth goes to some of the remote ATMs?
 Probably
 very little. They probably got crunched by the huge number of UDP
 packets.

 Of course, better filtering would have prevented that.

 But there's no need to assume that BoA runs MS-SQL or to worry that
 private
 info was compromised, etc. DoS attacks usually have very little to do
 with
 privacy compromises.

 Not claiming to be a security expert, so just correct me if I'm way
 off
 base! :-)

 Prisiclla

 Amazing wrote:
 
  what's amazing are the assumptions that people are making--who
  says tht BoA
  servers or any BoA database were comprimised?  who says they
  are even
  running MS-SQL?   Read how the worm is spreading and you will
  understand
  that you dont have to be running anything that can be affected
  by the worm.
  my guess is that a company with LARGE blocks of routable
  addresses and
  probably very high speed connections to the Internet might have
  bigger
  problems with this worm which in effect becomes a denial of
  service attack
  on their edge devices even if they are filtering out udp 1494
  at the edge.
 
  take a look at the post by Ken and observe what is happening to
  the CPU of
  one of his router blades.
 
  i definitely agree with your comment about the security con
  artist
  comparison the y2k consultants
 
  l0stbyte  wrote in message
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   the dumb butts are allowing access to SQL from public
  networks. how
   difficult is it to filter stuff out? SQL boxes should be on
  private
   networks, no routes to public, second or third tier, etc. Y2K
  all
   over... This time in security business. Bunch of con artists
  claiming to
   be security experts.
  
   Cheers...
  
   P.S. There was a news clip that BofA networks were effected.
  this is
  scary.
  
   l0stbyte
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Re: Too much Security Overkill on wireless network??? [7:62011]

2003-01-27 Thread 910T
Eric,

Although encryption typically doesn't result in code expansion, the error
correction overhead in an 802.11 wireless radio transmission takes up almost
half the throughput! (11 Mbit/s becomes about 6.5 Mbit/s net, best case).

Perhaps SSH, SSL and EAP/WEP are superfluous when used with IPSec, but I
would imagine that you need SSH and SSL to support users coming in from the
outside, or perhaps as an additional level of protection for individual
users of sensitive applications from those with general network access
(most attacks come from within...).

Typically, WEP is done in hardware, so theoretically, there shouldn't be any
overhead if that is the case. But if you want to eliminate it, why not force
the use of EAP for wireless admission control but leave WEP off? (I think
you can either not enter a key at all or enter one and then select 'No
Encryption.) Users will need to know they will be exposed when surfing
non-secure sites wirelessly...no worse than at a public hot-spot...

Regards,

Mas Kato
https://ecardfile.com/id/mkato

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From: eric nguyen 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:51 AM
Subject: Too much Security Overkill on wireless network???


Hi,

I have assigned the task of setting up a wireless network for my company

and I am wondering that I use too much security for the wireless.

Currently, I am setting a test wireless network for about 5 users.
Eventually, this

network will have about 50 users.  My set up is as follows:

1) The wireless network is sitting on the DMZ network.  This DMZ network is
hang

off an interface of a pix firewall (Pix-525).  Wireless users are required
to use

Protected Extensible Authentication Protocol (PEAP)  in order to log

onto the wireless DMZ network.

2) In order to access the company iternal network which hang off the
inside

interface of the pix firewall, wireless users must use Cisco VPN Client
IPSec

to establish a secure VPN tunnel between their device and the Pix firewall.

3) After succesfully establish the VPN tunnel between the wireless device
and the

Pix firewall, wireless can only access the company internal network
applications

via SSL, SSH, POP3s and IMAPs.  I have a few users that tunnel X-application
via

SSH connections.  Applications such as POP3, telnet and IMAP are not allowed

from the DMZ network into the company internal network.

So far the test is going well.  However, my concern is that this will not
scale well for

a large number of wireless users.  For example, let say for SSH connection,
the

traffic is encrypted by SSH.  Below that, it is encrypted via IPSec.
Finally, it is

encrypted by PEAP.  I've not done any analysis yet but it is possible that
50% of

the traffic is just overhead traffic for encryption.

Anyone has successfully implemented a secure wireless network on large
scale?

I would like to get your advise on this.  I have to present a recommendation
to

my CTO in a next few days.

By the way, my company did hire a CCIE security consultant to work with me
on

this project; however, this CCIE security is a f_cking moron.  Not only he
doesn't

know anything about PEAP, but he even suggested that we use Cisco LEAP

because LEAP is much more secure than PEAP.  After he couldn't get PEAP to

work, the SOB suggested that we switch to Cisco LEAP.  When we don't want to

use Cisco LEAP, he suggested that we just use shared (aka STATIC WEP)

authentication because we are using IPSec and Secure applications to access

the company internal network anyway.  The problem with this idea is that
once

wireless users are on the dmz wireless network, they can surf the Internet

without restrictions.  I don't want strangers (if they get a hold of the
STATIC WEP

KEY) to use my company bandwith to use the Internet.  I want PEAP because

it is safe and secure.  I am also testing EAP-TTLS but haven't had much luck
with

it.

I am sure the CCIE security consultant that turned out to be a f_cking
moron,

pardon my language, is more of an exception rather than the rule.  However,
I am

suprised that someone like that can pass the CCIE security lab.  By the way,
I

checked with Cisco and he does have a CCIE Security certification #.

Enough of me venting out my frustration.  Please advise.

Eric



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Re: Cisco 831 routers [7:61707]

2003-01-27 Thread Thomas N.
Thanks Paul.  Do you have any chance to test out for performance of
GRE+IPSec?  Is it better than that of software-based encryption on the 2600
routers?


Paul Forbes  wrote in message
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 They're available (we have four in house ready for deployment). I
 haven't tested them with all knobs on (GRE+IPsec, CBAC, IDS, QoS,
 EIGRP/OSPF, etc.), but VPN+CBAC has worked beautifully.

 Check with your VAR or Cisco account team for leadtimes.

 Cheers.

 Paul

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  Subject: Cisco 831 routers [7:61707]
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  I wonder if anyone here could get a hold of the new Cisco 831
  VPN router?  I
  am trying to get couple of these routers but being told they
  are onhold by
  Cisco.  I am just curious why? and when they are available
  again?  Thanks!
 
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