RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-26 Thread Simmi Singla
Thanx for replying back.
Confusion is cleared
Currently going through your book Top Down Design:)



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RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I checked on my routers. They let me enter the broadcast keyword on a
subinterface using the "frame-relay interface-dlci dlci" command. But they
are running 11.0. So maybe it was supported at one time, but then Cisco
realized it wasn't necessary and removed it.

Historical IOS research isn't fun, so I won't bother to do more. :-)

Priscilla

Simmi Singla wrote:
> 
> Hi Priscilla,
> I myself  also didnot check on the router just saw that in
> documentation .yeah true there is no keyword broadcast on the
> subinterface as per now i checked on my router .
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1824/products_command_summary_chapter09186a0080081010.html#xtocid1342715.
> 
> 
> see this link above here its mentioned broadcast keyword ,i
> think U are correct it might be for main  interface or what
> ,either the documentation is wrong.
> In the link u specified it was not.
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > You better show us actual router output and tell us your IOS
> > version. Per Chuck and Cisco's latest WAN Command Reference,
> > there isn't a "broadcast" argument to the "frame-relay
> > interface-dlci" command. Here's the syntax per Cisco:
> > 
> > frame-relay interface-dlci dlci [ietf | cisco] [voice-cir cir]
> > [ppp virtual-template-name]
> > 
> > See the Command Reference here:
> > 
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fwan_r/frcmds/wrffr2.htm
> > 
> > So, something is definitely squirelly if you are able to type
> > in the broadcast keyword. I'll try on my routers too if I get
> a
> > chance.
> > 
> > Priscilla
> > 
> > Simmi Singla wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi ,
> > > Thanx both of u for answering But my design is like that I
> am
> > > using point to point subinterfaces for connecting to remote
> > > sites.right now only static routing we have but it might be
> > > tommorow we may switch for dynamic routing protocols so in
> > that
> > > case as both of us sain no need of broadcast keyword on
> point
> > > to point subinterfaces.
> > > if its not needed then why in the command there is option
> for
> > > broadcast keyword.
> > > 
> > > Example:
> > > Int serial 0/0
> > > no ip address
> > > 
> > > int serial 0/0.1
> > > ip address 1.1.1.1 ?255.255.255.0
> > > frame-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast
> > > 
> > > should i give broadcast or not ,Correct this is point to
> point
> > > link and adjancies will  be established automatically.
> > > why this broadcast option is there ,still a confusion
> > > although this keyword is optional.This  maeans this keyword
> > > will never be used on point to point interfaces.
> > >  am i right if not please correct me
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Simmi Singla wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast
> keyword
> > in
> > > > sub
> > > > > > interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then
> > if
> > > i
> > > > > > have only static routing will it affect that.I read
> that
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if
> multicasting
> > > > > > disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic
> routing
> > > and
> > > > > > give this command what will happen.
> > > > > > will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward
> > > > > broadcasts. So think about when you would need to let a
> > > router
> > > > > send broadcasts on its own, from its own interface. The
> > > usual
> > > > > case is to support dynamic routing. If you are using
> > static
> > > > > routing, then you don't have to worry about it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual
> circuits
> > to
> > > > > remote sites. A point-to-point virtual circuit can send
> > > > > broadcasts without any problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and

RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi Priscilla,
I myself  also didnot check on the router just saw that in documentation
.yeah true there is no keyword broadcast on the subinterface as per now i
checked on my router .
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1824/products_command_summary_chapter09186a0080081010.html#xtocid1342715.


see this link above here its mentioned broadcast keyword ,i think U are
correct it might be for main  interface or what ,either the documentation is
wrong.
In the link u specified it was not.

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> You better show us actual router output and tell us your IOS
> version. Per Chuck and Cisco's latest WAN Command Reference,
> there isn't a "broadcast" argument to the "frame-relay
> interface-dlci" command. Here's the syntax per Cisco:
> 
> frame-relay interface-dlci dlci [ietf | cisco] [voice-cir cir]
> [ppp virtual-template-name]
> 
> See the Command Reference here:
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fwan_r/frcmds/wrffr2.htm
> 
> So, something is definitely squirelly if you are able to type
> in the broadcast keyword. I'll try on my routers too if I get a
> chance.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> Simmi Singla wrote:
> > 
> > Hi ,
> > Thanx both of u for answering But my design is like that I am
> > using point to point subinterfaces for connecting to remote
> > sites.right now only static routing we have but it might be
> > tommorow we may switch for dynamic routing protocols so in
> that
> > case as both of us sain no need of broadcast keyword on point
> > to point subinterfaces.
> > if its not needed then why in the command there is option for
> > broadcast keyword.
> > 
> > Example:
> > Int serial 0/0
> > no ip address
> > 
> > int serial 0/0.1
> > ip address 1.1.1.1 ?255.255.255.0
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast
> > 
> > should i give broadcast or not ,Correct this is point to point
> > link and adjancies will  be established automatically.
> > why this broadcast option is there ,still a confusion
> > although this keyword is optional.This  maeans this keyword
> > will never be used on point to point interfaces.
> >  am i right if not please correct me
> > 
> > 
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > 
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Simmi Singla wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword
> in
> > > sub
> > > > > interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then
> if
> > i
> > > > > have only static routing will it affect that.I read that
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if multicasting
> > > > > disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic routing
> > and
> > > > > give this command what will happen.
> > > > > will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> > > > 
> > > > Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward
> > > > broadcasts. So think about when you would need to let a
> > router
> > > > send broadcasts on its own, from its own interface. The
> > usual
> > > > case is to support dynamic routing. If you are using
> static
> > > > routing, then you don't have to worry about it.
> > > > 
> > > > Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual circuits
> to
> > > > remote sites. A point-to-point virtual circuit can send
> > > > broadcasts without any problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and-spoke topology,
> > > > however, with the hub router connecting many remote
> sites. A
> > > > typical design is to place all the WAN serial interfaces
> in
> > > > this design in the same subnet, thus creating a
> multiaccess
> > > WAN
> > > > "cloud." The cloud resembles a LAN subnet, but does not
> > > support
> > > > broadcasting like a LAN would. The cloud is a nonbroadcast
> > > > multiaccess (NBMA) network.
> > > > 
> > > > When a router sends a broadcast into the cloud, only a
> > > directly
> > > > connected router on the same virtual circuit hears it.
> Many
> > > > protocols were designed with the assumption that two hosts
> > on
> > > > the same subnet have Layer 2 connectivity and can easily
> > hear
> > > &

RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
You better show us actual router output and tell us your IOS version. Per
Chuck and Cisco's latest WAN Command Reference, there isn't a "broadcast"
argument to the "frame-relay interface-dlci" command. Here's the syntax per
Cisco:

frame-relay interface-dlci dlci [ietf | cisco] [voice-cir cir] [ppp
virtual-template-name]

See the Command Reference here:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fwan_r/frcmds/wrffr2.htm

So, something is definitely squirelly if you are able to type in the
broadcast keyword. I'll try on my routers too if I get a chance.

Priscilla

Simmi Singla wrote:
> 
> Hi ,
> Thanx both of u for answering But my design is like that I am
> using point to point subinterfaces for connecting to remote
> sites.right now only static routing we have but it might be
> tommorow we may switch for dynamic routing protocols so in that
> case as both of us sain no need of broadcast keyword on point
> to point subinterfaces.
> if its not needed then why in the command there is option for
> broadcast keyword.
> 
> Example:
> Int serial 0/0
> no ip address
> 
> int serial 0/0.1
> ip address 1.1.1.1 ?255.255.255.0
> frame-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast
> 
> should i give broadcast or not ,Correct this is point to point
> link and adjancies will  be established automatically.
> why this broadcast option is there ,still a confusion
> although this keyword is optional.This  maeans this keyword
> will never be used on point to point interfaces.
>  am i right if not please correct me
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > 
> > > Simmi Singla wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in
> > sub
> > > > interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if
> i
> > > > have only static routing will it affect that.I read that
> it
> > is
> > > > used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if multicasting
> > > > disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic routing
> and
> > > > give this command what will happen.
> > > > will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> > > 
> > > Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward
> > > broadcasts. So think about when you would need to let a
> router
> > > send broadcasts on its own, from its own interface. The
> usual
> > > case is to support dynamic routing. If you are using static
> > > routing, then you don't have to worry about it.
> > > 
> > > Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual circuits to
> > > remote sites. A point-to-point virtual circuit can send
> > > broadcasts without any problem.
> > > 
> > > Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and-spoke topology,
> > > however, with the hub router connecting many remote sites. A
> > > typical design is to place all the WAN serial interfaces in
> > > this design in the same subnet, thus creating a multiaccess
> > WAN
> > > "cloud." The cloud resembles a LAN subnet, but does not
> > support
> > > broadcasting like a LAN would. The cloud is a nonbroadcast
> > > multiaccess (NBMA) network.
> > > 
> > > When a router sends a broadcast into the cloud, only a
> > directly
> > > connected router on the same virtual circuit hears it. Many
> > > protocols were designed with the assumption that two hosts
> on
> > > the same subnet have Layer 2 connectivity and can easily
> hear
> > > each other's broadcasts. This isn't the case in a Frame
> Relay
> > > hub-and-spoke topology.
> > > 
> > > So to fix the problem, if this is your design, you better
> add
> > > the "broadcast" keyword if you are using dynamic addressing.
> > 
> > I meant to say "dynamic routing" there. That is, use the
> > broadcast keyword if you need the router to send routing
> > protocol route updates or hellos as broadcasts (or
> multicasts).
> > He had asked about static routing, so I wanted to add that
> > thought but then the darn phone rang while I was typing and I
> > wrote dynamic addressing instead of dynamic routing. :-)
> > 
> > Priscilla
> > 
> > 
> > > For example, use seomthing like "frame-relay map protocol
> > > address broadcast."
> > > 
> > > The other solution, however, is to use subinterfaces. This
> > > turns the links back into normal point-to-point links. Then
> > > they support broadcast no problem.
> > > 
> > > Chuck can correct me if I got this wrong! :-)
> > > 
> > > Priscilla
> > > 
> > > > moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub
> > > > interfaces.
> > > > Thanx a lot in advance--:)
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi ,
Thanx both of u for answering But my design is like that I am using point to
point subinterfaces for connecting to remote sites.right now only static
routing we have but it might be tommorow we may switch for dynamic routing
protocols so in that case as both of us sain no need of broadcast keyword on
point to point subinterfaces.
if its not needed then why in the command there is option for broadcast
keyword.

Example:
Int serial 0/0
no ip address

int serial 0/0.1
ip address 1.1.1.1 ?255.255.255.0
frame-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast

should i give broadcast or not ,Correct this is point to point link and
adjancies will  be established automatically.
why this broadcast option is there ,still a confusion
although this keyword is optional.This  maeans this keyword will never be
used on point to point interfaces.
 am i right if not please correct me


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > Simmi Singla wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in
> sub
> > > interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if i
> > > have only static routing will it affect that.I read that it
> is
> > > used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if multicasting
> > > disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic routing and
> > > give this command what will happen.
> > > will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> > 
> > Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward
> > broadcasts. So think about when you would need to let a router
> > send broadcasts on its own, from its own interface. The usual
> > case is to support dynamic routing. If you are using static
> > routing, then you don't have to worry about it.
> > 
> > Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual circuits to
> > remote sites. A point-to-point virtual circuit can send
> > broadcasts without any problem.
> > 
> > Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and-spoke topology,
> > however, with the hub router connecting many remote sites. A
> > typical design is to place all the WAN serial interfaces in
> > this design in the same subnet, thus creating a multiaccess
> WAN
> > "cloud." The cloud resembles a LAN subnet, but does not
> support
> > broadcasting like a LAN would. The cloud is a nonbroadcast
> > multiaccess (NBMA) network.
> > 
> > When a router sends a broadcast into the cloud, only a
> directly
> > connected router on the same virtual circuit hears it. Many
> > protocols were designed with the assumption that two hosts on
> > the same subnet have Layer 2 connectivity and can easily hear
> > each other's broadcasts. This isn't the case in a Frame Relay
> > hub-and-spoke topology.
> > 
> > So to fix the problem, if this is your design, you better add
> > the "broadcast" keyword if you are using dynamic addressing.
> 
> I meant to say "dynamic routing" there. That is, use the
> broadcast keyword if you need the router to send routing
> protocol route updates or hellos as broadcasts (or multicasts).
> He had asked about static routing, so I wanted to add that
> thought but then the darn phone rang while I was typing and I
> wrote dynamic addressing instead of dynamic routing. :-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> > For example, use seomthing like "frame-relay map protocol
> > address broadcast."
> > 
> > The other solution, however, is to use subinterfaces. This
> > turns the links back into normal point-to-point links. Then
> > they support broadcast no problem.
> > 
> > Chuck can correct me if I got this wrong! :-)
> > 
> > Priscilla
> > 
> > > moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub
> > > interfaces.
> > > Thanx a lot in advance--:)
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Simmi Singla wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in sub
> > interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if i
> > have only static routing will it affect that.I read that it is
> > used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if multicasting
> > disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic routing and
> > give this command what will happen.
> > will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> 
> Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward
> broadcasts. So think about when you would need to let a router
> send broadcasts on its own, from its own interface. The usual
> case is to support dynamic routing. If you are using static
> routing, then you don't have to worry about it.
> 
> Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual circuits to
> remote sites. A point-to-point virtual circuit can send
> broadcasts without any problem.
> 
> Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and-spoke topology,
> however, with the hub router connecting many remote sites. A
> typical design is to place all the WAN serial interfaces in
> this design in the same subnet, thus creating a multiaccess WAN
> "cloud." The cloud resembles a LAN subnet, but does not support
> broadcasting like a LAN would. The cloud is a nonbroadcast
> multiaccess (NBMA) network.
> 
> When a router sends a broadcast into the cloud, only a directly
> connected router on the same virtual circuit hears it. Many
> protocols were designed with the assumption that two hosts on
> the same subnet have Layer 2 connectivity and can easily hear
> each other's broadcasts. This isn't the case in a Frame Relay
> hub-and-spoke topology.
> 
> So to fix the problem, if this is your design, you better add
> the "broadcast" keyword if you are using dynamic addressing.

I meant to say "dynamic routing" there. That is, use the broadcast keyword
if you need the router to send routing protocol route updates or hellos as
broadcasts (or multicasts). He had asked about static routing, so I wanted
to add that thought but then the darn phone rang while I was typing and I
wrote dynamic addressing instead of dynamic routing. :-)

Priscilla


> For example, use seomthing like "frame-relay map protocol
> address broadcast."
> 
> The other solution, however, is to use subinterfaces. This
> turns the links back into normal point-to-point links. Then
> they support broadcast no problem.
> 
> Chuck can correct me if I got this wrong! :-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> > moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub
> > interfaces.
> > Thanx a lot in advance--:)
> 
> 




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RE: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Simmi Singla wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in sub
> interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if i
> have only static routing will it affect that.I read that it is
> used only for OSPF to pass broadcasts , if multicasting
> disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic routing and
> give this command what will happen.
> will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.

Remember a router doesn't pass broadcasts, i.e. forward broadcasts. So think
about when you would need to let a router send broadcasts on its own, from
its own interface. The usual case is to support dynamic routing. If you are
using static routing, then you don't have to worry about it.

Frame Relay is used on routers to create virtual circuits to remote sites. A
point-to-point virtual circuit can send broadcasts without any problem.

Frame Relay is often designed in a hub-and-spoke topology, however, with the
hub router connecting many remote sites. A typical design is to place all
the WAN serial interfaces in this design in the same subnet, thus creating a
multiaccess WAN "cloud." The cloud resembles a LAN subnet, but does not
support broadcasting like a LAN would. The cloud is a nonbroadcast
multiaccess (NBMA) network.

When a router sends a broadcast into the cloud, only a directly connected
router on the same virtual circuit hears it. Many protocols were designed
with the assumption that two hosts on the same subnet have Layer 2
connectivity and can easily hear each other's broadcasts. This isn't the
case in a Frame Relay hub-and-spoke topology.

So to fix the problem, if this is your design, you better add the
"broadcast" keyword if you are using dynamic addressing. For example, use
seomthing like "frame-relay map protocol address broadcast."

The other solution, however, is to use subinterfaces. This turns the links
back into normal point-to-point links. Then they support broadcast no problem.

Chuck can correct me if I got this wrong! :-)

Priscilla

> moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub
> interfaces.
> Thanx a lot in advance--:)




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Re: Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-25 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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> Hi all,
> Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in sub
> interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if i have only
static
> routing will it affect that.I read that it is used only for OSPF to pass
> broadcasts , if multicasting disabled.But In a scenario if I have no
dynamic
> routing and give this command what will happen.
> will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
> moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub interfaces.

when dealing with nmba, the "broadcast" keyword should be applied always. as
in "frame-relay map protocol address"

on a point-to-point subinterface ( the only kind on which you may use the
"frame-relay interface-dlci" command ) there is no need for the broadcast
keyword. Therefore the switch does not exist. The link is point-to-point,
same as any old T1 or serial connection.






> Thanx a lot in advance--:)




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Broadcast keyword in subinterface [7:61829]

2003-01-24 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi all,
Can anybody explain me when i use the broadcast keyword in sub
interface(fram-relay interface-dlci 16 broadcast) then if i have only static
routing will it affect that.I read that it is used only for OSPF to pass
broadcasts , if multicasting disabled.But In a scenario if I have no dynamic
routing and give this command what will happen.
will it pass unknown broadcasts on frame-relay.
moreover exactly how it is used in point-to-point sub interfaces.
Thanx a lot in advance--:)


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Re: Low Latency Queue on ATM Subinterface [7:61018]

2003-01-15 Thread YASSER ALY
I tried what u said and gave me same result !!!.

Anybody here has an idea whether this is normal or not and if normal how
can we enable log to make sure hits and matched against the ACL

 

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Trying to use the log keywork, I got
the following message: > >class-map TV : access-list with 'log' not
supported >class-map Policy : access-list with 'log' not supported > > >
> > > >"YASSER ALY" @groupstudy.com em 2003-01-14 15:47:54 > >Favor
responder a "YASSER ALY" > >Enviado Por: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Para:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >cc: > >Assunto: Re: Low Latency Queue on ATM
Subinterface [7:61018] > > >Add the keyword "log" at the end of your
access list and check whether >there are really hits matching the ACL or
not. Maybe everything is right >and u are just sending another traffic
not matching with the ACL. > > > > >From: "alaerte Vidali" > >The
following LLQ is configured but no packets >are going to the priority
>queue; all packets go to the default class: > > >class-map match-all
Priority-Queue > match access-group name TV >! > >policy-map Policy >
class Priority-Queue > priority 200 > class >class-default >
random-detect > fair-queue >! >interface ATM6/0/0.213 >point-to-point >
bandwidth 1 > ip address 192.168.255.177 >255.255.255.252 > ip pim
version 1 > ip pim sparse-dense-mode > ip ospf >cost 8 > atm pvc 100 1
201 aal5snap > service-policy output Policy >! >ip >access-list extended
TV > permit udp host 1.1.1.1 host 239.192.10.22 eq >6 > > >router#sh
policy-map int atm 6/0/0.213 output > > ATM6/0/0.213 > > > service-policy
output: Policy > > queue stats for all priority >classes: > queue size 0,
queue limit 50 > packets output 0, packet drops >0 > tail/random drops 0,
no buffer drops 0, other drops 0 > > class-map: >Priority-Queue
(match-all) > 0 packets, 0 bytes > 5 minute offered rate 0 >bps, drop
rate 0 bps > match: access-group name TV > 0 packets, 0 bytes > >5 minute
rate 0 bps > Priority: kbps 200, burst bytes 5000, b/w exceed >drops: 0 >
>class-map: class-default (match-any) > 474896 packets, >516105147 bytes
> 5 minute offered rate 1623000 bps, drop rate 0 bps > >match: any >
474896 packets, 516105147 bytes > 5 minute rate 1623000 bps > > queue
size 0, queue limit 5838 > packets output 477559, packet drops 4 > >
tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 4 > random-detect: >
> Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512) > Mean queue depth: 0 > Class Random
>Tail Minimum Maximum Mark Output > drop drop threshold threshold
>probability packets > 0 0 0 1459 2919 1/10 429315 > 1 0 0 1641 2919 1/10
>0 > 2 0 0 1823 2919 1/10 0 > 3 0 0 2006 2919 1/10 0 > 4 0 0 2188 2919
>1/10 0 > 5 0 0 2370 2919 1/10 48467 > 6 0 0 2553 2919 1/10 0 > 7 0 0
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Re: Low Latency Queue on ATM Subinterface [7:61018]

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Trying to use the log keywork, I got the following message:

class-map TV : access-list with 'log' not supported
class-map Policy : access-list with 'log' not supported






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Add the keyword "log" at the end of your access list and check whether
there are really hits matching the ACL or not. Maybe everything is right
and u are just sending another traffic not matching with the ACL.



>From: "alaerte Vidali" > >The following LLQ is configured but no packets
are going to the priority >queue; all packets go to the default class: >
>class-map match-all Priority-Queue > match access-group name TV >!
>policy-map Policy > class Priority-Queue > priority 200 > class
class-default > random-detect > fair-queue >! >interface ATM6/0/0.213
point-to-point > bandwidth 1 > ip address 192.168.255.177
255.255.255.252 > ip pim version 1 > ip pim sparse-dense-mode > ip ospf
cost 8 > atm pvc 100 1 201 aal5snap > service-policy output Policy >! >ip
access-list extended TV > permit udp host 1.1.1.1 host 239.192.10.22 eq
6 > > >router#sh policy-map int atm 6/0/0.213 output > > ATM6/0/0.213
> > service-policy output: Policy > > queue stats for all priority
classes: > queue size 0, queue limit 50 > packets output 0, packet drops
0 > tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 0 > > class-map:
Priority-Queue (match-all) > 0 packets, 0 bytes > 5 minute offered rate 0
bps, drop rate 0 bps > match: access-group name TV > 0 packets, 0 bytes >
5 minute rate 0 bps > Priority: kbps 200, burst bytes 5000, b/w exceed
drops: 0 > >class-map: class-default (match-any) > 474896 packets,
516105147 bytes > 5 minute offered rate 1623000 bps, drop rate 0 bps >
match: any > 474896 packets, 516105147 bytes > 5 minute rate 1623000 bps
> queue size 0, queue limit 5838 > packets output 477559, packet drops 4
> tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 4 > random-detect:
> Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512) > Mean queue depth: 0 > Class Random
Tail Minimum Maximum Mark Output > drop drop threshold threshold
probability packets > 0 0 0 1459 2919 1/10 429315 > 1 0 0 1641 2919 1/10
0 > 2 0 0 1823 2919 1/10 0 > 3 0 0 2006 2919 1/10 0 > 4 0 0 2188 2919
1/10 0 > 5 0 0 2370 2919 1/10 48467 > 6 0 0 2553 2919 1/10 0 > 7 0 0 2735
2919 1/10 0 > fair-queue: per-flow queue limit 1459 > > >Any clue?
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Re: Low Latency Queue on ATM Subinterface [7:61018]

2003-01-14 Thread YASSER ALY
Add the keyword "log" at the end of your access list and check whether
there are really hits matching the ACL or not. Maybe everything is right
and u are just sending another traffic not matching with the ACL.

 

>From: "alaerte Vidali" > >The following LLQ is configured but no packets
are going to the priority >queue; all packets go to the default class: >
>class-map match-all Priority-Queue > match access-group name TV >!
>policy-map Policy > class Priority-Queue > priority 200 > class
class-default > random-detect > fair-queue >! >interface ATM6/0/0.213
point-to-point > bandwidth 1 > ip address 192.168.255.177
255.255.255.252 > ip pim version 1 > ip pim sparse-dense-mode > ip ospf
cost 8 > atm pvc 100 1 201 aal5snap > service-policy output Policy >! >ip
access-list extended TV > permit udp host 1.1.1.1 host 239.192.10.22 eq
6 > > >router#sh policy-map int atm 6/0/0.213 output > > ATM6/0/0.213
> > service-policy output: Policy > > queue stats for all priority
classes: > queue size 0, queue limit 50 > packets output 0, packet drops
0 > tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 0 > > class-map:
Priority-Queue (match-all) > 0 packets, 0 bytes > 5 minute offered rate 0
bps, drop rate 0 bps > match: access-group name TV > 0 packets, 0 bytes >
5 minute rate 0 bps > Priority: kbps 200, burst bytes 5000, b/w exceed
drops: 0 > >class-map: class-default (match-any) > 474896 packets,
516105147 bytes > 5 minute offered rate 1623000 bps, drop rate 0 bps >
match: any > 474896 packets, 516105147 bytes > 5 minute rate 1623000 bps
> queue size 0, queue limit 5838 > packets output 477559, packet drops 4
> tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 4 > random-detect:
> Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512) > Mean queue depth: 0 > Class Random
Tail Minimum Maximum Mark Output > drop drop threshold threshold
probability packets > 0 0 0 1459 2919 1/10 429315 > 1 0 0 1641 2919 1/10
0 > 2 0 0 1823 2919 1/10 0 > 3 0 0 2006 2919 1/10 0 > 4 0 0 2188 2919
1/10 0 > 5 0 0 2370 2919 1/10 48467 > 6 0 0 2553 2919 1/10 0 > 7 0 0 2735
2919 1/10 0 > fair-queue: per-flow queue limit 1459 > > >Any clue?
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Low Latency Queue on ATM Subinterface [7:61018]

2003-01-14 Thread alaerte Vidali
The following LLQ is configured but no packets are going to the priority
queue;  all packets go to the default class:

class-map match-all Priority-Queue
  match access-group name TV
!
policy-map Policy
  class Priority-Queue
priority 200
  class class-default
random-detect
fair-queue
!
interface ATM6/0/0.213 point-to-point
 bandwidth 1
 ip address 192.168.255.177 255.255.255.252
 ip pim version 1
 ip pim sparse-dense-mode
 ip ospf cost 8
 atm pvc 100 1 201 aal5snap
 service-policy output Policy
!
ip access-list extended TV
 permit udp host 1.1.1.1 host 239.192.10.22 eq 6


router#sh policy-map int atm 6/0/0.213 output 

 ATM6/0/0.213

  service-policy output: Policy

queue stats for all priority classes:
  queue size 0, queue limit 50
  packets output 0, packet drops 0
  tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 0

class-map: Priority-Queue (match-all)
  0 packets, 0 bytes
  5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
  match: access-group name TV
0 packets, 0 bytes
5 minute rate 0 bps
  Priority: kbps 200, burst bytes 5000, b/w exceed drops: 0

class-map: class-default (match-any)
  474896 packets, 516105147 bytes
  5 minute offered rate 1623000 bps, drop rate 0 bps
  match: any
474896 packets, 516105147 bytes
5 minute rate 1623000 bps
  queue size 0, queue limit 5838
  packets output 477559, packet drops 4
  tail/random drops 0, no buffer drops 0, other drops 4
  random-detect:
Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512)
Mean queue depth: 0
Class Random   Tail   Minimum   Maximum Mark   Output
drop   drop threshold threshold  probability  packets
0  0  0  1459  2919 1/10   429315
1  0  0  1641  2919 1/100
2  0  0  1823  2919 1/100
3  0  0  2006  2919 1/100
4  0  0  2188  2919 1/100
5  0  0  2370  2919 1/1048467
6  0  0  2553  2919 1/100
7  0  0  2735  2919 1/100
  fair-queue: per-flow queue limit 1459


Any clue?
Thanks


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Re: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Edmonds
The 3550 definitely does support ISL trunking.

""Ellis, Andrew""  wrote in message
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> Raj,
>
> The following link will tell you enough so you can make it work, if you
have
> the right router.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/50.shtml
>
> -Drew
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rajesh Kumar [mailto:pikumar@;cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to configure a router on a stick configuration - with 26xx
> series router's e0/0 port connected to fa0/1 port of CAT3550.
>
> Router's E0 port is configured like this
>
> int e0/1
> no shu
> no ip address
>
> int e0/1.1
> encap isl 20
> ip address 192.168.20.1 255.255.255.0
>
> int e0/1.2
> encap isl 40
> ip address 192.168.40.1 255.255.255.0
>
> When I try to do the same thing on CAT 3550's fa0/1 port, I get an error
> message like this :
>
>  " Configuring IP routing on LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
> subinterface is configured as a part of IEEE 802.10 or dot1q or ISL
> VLAN. "
>
> But nowhere I find the command "encap isl  " to insert this in
> the subinterfaces.
>
>
> Does anyone has anythoughts on this and how to overcome this?
>
> Thanks,
> Rajesh




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RE: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-24 Thread Ellis, Andrew
Raj,

The following link will tell you enough so you can make it work, if you have
the right router.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/50.shtml

-Drew

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Subject: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]


Hi all,

I am trying to configure a router on a stick configuration - with 26xx
series router's e0/0 port connected to fa0/1 port of CAT3550.

Router's E0 port is configured like this

int e0/1
no shu
no ip address

int e0/1.1
encap isl 20
ip address 192.168.20.1 255.255.255.0

int e0/1.2
encap isl 40
ip address 192.168.40.1 255.255.255.0

When I try to do the same thing on CAT 3550's fa0/1 port, I get an error
message like this :

 " Configuring IP routing on LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
subinterface is configured as a part of IEEE 802.10 or dot1q or ISL
VLAN. "

But nowhere I find the command "encap isl  " to insert this in
the subinterfaces.


Does anyone has anythoughts on this and how to overcome this?

Thanks,
Rajesh




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RE: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-24 Thread Ellis, Andrew
But isn't that what I said 2620 or better?

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This is not true, you can do inter vlan routing with a 2620. See below 

"Enables inter-VLAN routing via Cisco's Inter-Switch Link (ISL) protocol
(Cisco 2620 and 2621), reducing the cost of adds, moves and changes"

This is a quote straight from Cisco's site

Here is the link watch for wrap :

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps259/prod_brochure09186a00800921cd.html




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Re: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-23 Thread Ian Henderson
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Rajesh Kumar wrote:

>  " Configuring IP routing on LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
> subinterface is configured as a part of IEEE 802.10 or dot1q or ISL
> VLAN. "
>
> But nowhere I find the command "encap isl  " to insert this in
> the subinterfaces.

Try this:

interface FastEthernet0/1
 description Router on stick (2600)
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport trunk encapsulation isl

Off the top of my head, I can't remember if the 3550 only supports dot1q,
or ISL, or both. So if the above doesn't work, use dot1q rather than isl
on the router, and forget the encapsulation command on the switch.

Rgds,



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RE: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-23 Thread Jesse Loggins
Rajesh sorry I read your post wrong. I thought you said you could not do ISL
with a 2620. Sorry


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RE: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-23 Thread Jesse Loggins
This is not true, you can do inter vlan routing with a 2620. See below 

"Enables inter-VLAN routing via Cisco's Inter-Switch Link (ISL) protocol
(Cisco 2620 and 2621), reducing the cost of adds, moves and changes"

This is a quote straight from Cisco's site

Here is the link watch for wrap :

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps259/prod_brochure09186a00800921cd.html



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RE: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-23 Thread Ellis, Andrew
What model 2600 exactly are you using?

If this is not a 2620 or better with a fast ethernet interface it won't
work. The fact that it is a e0/0 and not a fa0/0 tells me that you can't do
it.



-Drew

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Subject: Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]


Hi all,

I am trying to configure a router on a stick configuration - with 26xx
series router's e0/0 port connected to fa0/1 port of CAT3550.

Router's E0 port is configured like this

int e0/1
no shu
no ip address

int e0/1.1
encap isl 20
ip address 192.168.20.1 255.255.255.0

int e0/1.2
encap isl 40
ip address 192.168.40.1 255.255.255.0

When I try to do the same thing on CAT 3550's fa0/1 port, I get an error
message like this :

 " Configuring IP routing on LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
subinterface is configured as a part of IEEE 802.10 or dot1q or ISL
VLAN. "

But nowhere I find the command "encap isl  " to insert this in
the subinterfaces.


Does anyone has anythoughts on this and how to overcome this?

Thanks,
Rajesh




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Subinterface config. in CAT3550. [7:56174]

2002-10-23 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Hi all,

I am trying to configure a router on a stick configuration - with 26xx
series router's e0/0 port connected to fa0/1 port of CAT3550.

Router's E0 port is configured like this

int e0/1
no shu
no ip address

int e0/1.1
encap isl 20
ip address 192.168.20.1 255.255.255.0

int e0/1.2
encap isl 40
ip address 192.168.40.1 255.255.255.0

When I try to do the same thing on CAT 3550's fa0/1 port, I get an error
message like this :

 " Configuring IP routing on LAN subinterface is only allowed if that
subinterface is configured as a part of IEEE 802.10 or dot1q or ISL
VLAN. "

But nowhere I find the command "encap isl  " to insert this in
the subinterfaces.


Does anyone has anythoughts on this and how to overcome this?

Thanks,
Rajesh




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RE: 7507 subinterface [7:42535]

2002-04-25 Thread Erhan Kurt

Till you reload the router even a year it'll be there without any effects :)


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Subject: 7507 subinterface

i have a 7507 that i created a subinterface on (int fa4/0/0.1) and I no
longer need it. I did a no int fa4/0/0.1 and it took it ok. It does not show
up in the show run but when I do a sh ip int brief it shows up but as
deleted. Even though it is not in use or affecting anything, will it still
always show up in sh ip int brief? Is there a way to get it out of the sh ip
int brief?
 

 







 
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RE: 7507 subinterface [7:42533]

2002-04-25 Thread Wright, Jeremy

thanks everyone for the help.


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Reload it.

Abidin.

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Subject: 7507 subinterface

i have a 7507 that i created a subinterface on (int fa4/0/0.1) and I no
longer need it. I did a no int fa4/0/0.1 and it took it ok. It does not show
up in the show run but when I do a sh ip int brief it shows up but as
deleted. Even though it is not in use or affecting anything, will it still
always show up in sh ip int brief? Is there a way to get it out of the sh ip
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RE: 7507 subinterface [7:42525]

2002-04-25 Thread Wright, Jeremy

thats what i thought..but of course its a production router and i wont be
able to reboot it anytime soon. thanks for the help.

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a reboot clear this

this happens quite a bit with various sub interfaces and dlci's not used on
a frame circuit.

-Patrick

>>> "Wright, Jeremy"  04/25/02 08:47AM >>>
i have a 7507 that i created a subinterface on (int fa4/0/0.1) and I no
longer need it. I did a no int fa4/0/0.1 and it took it ok. It does not show
up in the show run but when I do a sh ip int brief it shows up but as
deleted. Even though it is not in use or affecting anything, will it still
always show up in sh ip int brief? Is there a way to get it out of the sh ip
int brief?
 

 







 
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Re: 7507 subinterface [7:42525]

2002-04-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

a reboot clear this

this happens quite a bit with various sub interfaces and dlci's not used on
a frame circuit.

-Patrick

>>> "Wright, Jeremy"  04/25/02 08:47AM >>>
i have a 7507 that i created a subinterface on (int fa4/0/0.1) and I no
longer need it. I did a no int fa4/0/0.1 and it took it ok. It does not show
up in the show run but when I do a sh ip int brief it shows up but as
deleted. Even though it is not in use or affecting anything, will it still
always show up in sh ip int brief? Is there a way to get it out of the sh ip
int brief?
 

 







 
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7507 subinterface [7:42525]

2002-04-25 Thread Wright, Jeremy

i have a 7507 that i created a subinterface on (int fa4/0/0.1) and I no
longer need it. I did a no int fa4/0/0.1 and it took it ok. It does not show
up in the show run but when I do a sh ip int brief it shows up but as
deleted. Even though it is not in use or affecting anything, will it still
always show up in sh ip int brief? Is there a way to get it out of the sh ip
int brief?
 

 







 
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subinterface in ospf [7:39029]

2002-03-27 Thread cage

when using the command frame-relay interface-dlci XXX in point-to-point
subinterface, does it mean the inverse-arp to map the remote ip to the local
dlci dynamicly?




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Re: subinterface in ospf [7:39029]

2002-03-27 Thread Chuck

inverse arp does not apply. that is, when you invoke the frame-relay
interface-dlci command, this overrides inverse arp for that particular dlci.
other dlci's might still be mapped via inverse arp ( to the physical
interface )

this command is REQUIRED on point to point subinterfaces.


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Re: Policy routing - interface or subinterface? [7:38528]

2002-03-15 Thread John Neiberger

Yes, you can do this on a subinterface.  I was doing it just 
yesterday in conjunction with an IPsec, GRE, NAT, and policy 
routing scenario.  And -- surprisingly -- it worked!

John



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> Just verifying something I am seeing in my lab.
> 
> All examples of policy routing that I can find, both in Doyle 
and on
> CCO,
> show policy routing as taking place on the physical 
interface. I can
> find no
> examples indicating that policies can be set on a 
subinterface.
> 
> However, I am finding in my lab that separate policies can 
indeed be set
> up
> on different subinterfaces.
> 
> Any comments from the field, based either on real world or 
lab rat
> experience?
> 
> ( and yes, I have a customer, and I am testing this because I 
did the
> design
> before I studied the feasibility :->  )
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Policy routing - interface or subinterface? [7:38528]

2002-03-15 Thread Chuck

Just verifying something I am seeing in my lab.

All examples of policy routing that I can find, both in Doyle and on CCO,
show policy routing as taking place on the physical interface. I can find no
examples indicating that policies can be set on a subinterface.

However, I am finding in my lab that separate policies can indeed be set up
on different subinterfaces.

Any comments from the field, based either on real world or lab rat
experience?

( and yes, I have a customer, and I am testing this because I did the design
before I studied the feasibility :->  )

Chuck




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RE: change type of frame relay subinterface [7:38203]

2002-03-13 Thread Mark Odette II

Most highly recommended way to resolve this is save your config, and then
reset the router.

Mark

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Hi all,

When I create a frame-relay subinterface as

int s0.1 point-to-point

afterward, I want to change it to multipoint,

no int s0.1
int s0.1 multipoint

It can't allow me to do so, and the following appear,

Not all config may be removed and may reappear after reactivating the
sub-interface

How to handle this problem,

Thks

Ellis




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change type of frame relay subinterface [7:38203]

2002-03-13 Thread Ellis Lam

Hi all,

When I create a frame-relay subinterface as

int s0.1 point-to-point

afterward, I want to change it to multipoint,

no int s0.1
int s0.1 multipoint

It can't allow me to do so, and the following appear,

Not all config may be removed and may reappear after reactivating the
sub-interface

How to handle this problem,

Thks

Ellis


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Re: point-to-point subinterface [7:37831]

2002-03-10 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

Is there already a s0.1 interface defined?

Try creating a s0.2 or something that doesn't exist.
Once you create a sub-interface you can't change it
from multipoint to point-to-point and vice versa. 

Also, if you remove sub interfaces they aren't
completely removed from memory until the router is
reloaded/reset. Perhaps, you deleted the s0.1
interface and are running into this. 

HTH, Erick

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> 
> I'm trying to create a point-to-point subinterface
> under s0 inteface and I'm
> getting the following warning message:
> 
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
>  clockrate 200
> r1(config)#int s0.1 point
> % Warning:  cannot change link type
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Re: point-to-point subinterface [7:37831]

2002-03-10 Thread John Neiberger

At some point since the last time you rebooted this router, you 
must have configured the same subinterface as multipoint.  
Either choose a different subinterface number or remove the 
subinterface and reboot the router.  That will allow you to use 
the same number with a different link type.

HTH,
John



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> 
> I'm trying to create a point-to-point subinterface under s0 
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> I'm
> getting the following warning message:
> 
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip route-cache
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
>  clockrate 200
> r1(config)#int s0.1 point
> % Warning:  cannot change link type
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point-to-point subinterface [7:37831]

2002-03-10 Thread Richard Yun

Hello,

I'm trying to create a point-to-point subinterface under s0 inteface and I'm
getting the following warning message:

interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
 clockrate 200
r1(config)#int s0.1 point
% Warning:  cannot change link type
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Re: ATM subinterface with NAT [7:31361]

2002-01-09 Thread MADMAN

inter a1/0
  ip nat outside/inside

 Dave

"Elaluf, Sylvia," wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> What are the guidelines to configure NAT with ATM in a 7200?
> Is this possible?
> The ATM interface is connected to an ATM switch using a STM-1 link.
> Thanks
> 
> Silvia
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ATM subinterface with NAT [7:31361]

2002-01-09 Thread Elaluf, Sylvia,

Hi All,
What are the guidelines to configure NAT with ATM in a 7200?
Is this possible?
The ATM interface is connected to an ATM switch using a STM-1 link.
Thanks

Silvia




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RE: NAT syntax under subinterface. [7:30672]

2002-01-02 Thread Barrios, Gabriel

this  is the small document  that may help  you a lot
regards,


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If you have a serial0.1 interface and are using this for ip nat outside, 
what is the correct syntax in defining your PAT or pool of addresses?

1. ip nat inside source list 1 interface serial0.1 overload

2. ip nat inside source list 1 interface serial0:1 overload ?

Or does it not matter at all?

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NAT syntax under subinterface. [7:30672]

2002-01-02 Thread Larry Brown

If you have a serial0.1 interface and are using this for ip nat outside, 
what is the correct syntax in defining your PAT or pool of addresses?

1. ip nat inside source list 1 interface serial0.1 overload

2. ip nat inside source list 1 interface serial0:1 overload ?

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Re: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]

2001-12-25 Thread Scottie @ PacBell

Are you trying to create a point-to-point frame relay subinterface?  If so
make sure you have the "encapsulation frame-relay" command under the major
physical interface.
- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]


> Can you do a "sh ru" and post it!
> Thanks
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ash Aslam"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:24 PM
> Subject: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]
>
>
> > Hello group,
> >
> > I am trying to set-up a point-to-point subinterface but I do not see the
> > point-to-point or multipoint options under the physical interface as
> > follows:
> >
> > r5-s(config)#interface serial 0.1 ?
> >
> >
> > I am having problems creating the point-to-point subinterface on both
the
> > 2500 and 2600 router platforms.  2503 has IOS Version 12.1(5) and 2612
has
> > IOS Version 12.1(4).  I am not sure if this is IOS bug related.
> >
> > I have tried various things but to no avail.  Can anyone shed some light
> > with a brief example?
> >
> > Thanks in adv,
> > Ash




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Re: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]

2001-12-24 Thread Mohammed Nabelsi

Can you do a "sh ru" and post it!
Thanks
- Original Message -
From: "Ash Aslam" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:24 PM
Subject: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]


> Hello group,
>
> I am trying to set-up a point-to-point subinterface but I do not see the
> point-to-point or multipoint options under the physical interface as
> follows:
>
> r5-s(config)#interface serial 0.1 ?
>
>
> I am having problems creating the point-to-point subinterface on both the
> 2500 and 2600 router platforms.  2503 has IOS Version 12.1(5) and 2612 has
> IOS Version 12.1(4).  I am not sure if this is IOS bug related.
>
> I have tried various things but to no avail.  Can anyone shed some light
> with a brief example?
>
> Thanks in adv,
> Ash




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Re: Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]

2001-12-24 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

> I am trying to set-up a point-to-point subinterface but I do not see the
> point-to-point or multipoint options under the physical interface as
> follows:
>
> r5-s(config)#interface serial 0.1 ?
>
>
> I am having problems creating the point-to-point subinterface on both the
> 2500 and 2600 router platforms.  2503 has IOS Version 12.1(5) and 2612 has
> IOS Version 12.1(4).  I am not sure if this is IOS bug related.
>
> I have tried various things but to no avail.  Can anyone shed some light
> with a brief example?

Have you define the "encapsulation frame-relay" command first?
If that doesn`t help, then your IOS doesn`t support for
"Frame Relay SVC Support (DTE)". Try upgrading the IOS, you
can lookup which IOS that supports subinterfaces from
Cisco IOS Feature Navigator link.

HTH




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Subinterface P-2-P [7:30070]

2001-12-24 Thread Ash Aslam

Hello group,

I am trying to set-up a point-to-point subinterface but I do not see the
point-to-point or multipoint options under the physical interface as
follows:

r5-s(config)#interface serial 0.1 ?
  

I am having problems creating the point-to-point subinterface on both the
2500 and 2600 router platforms.  2503 has IOS Version 12.1(5) and 2612 has
IOS Version 12.1(4).  I am not sure if this is IOS bug related.

I have tried various things but to no avail.  Can anyone shed some light
with a brief example?

Thanks in adv,
Ash




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Re: delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-07 Thread Henrique Issamu terada

As far as I know, it is due to IDB allocation . . .

Cheers ,

Henrique Terada



At 22:44 03/09/2001 -0400, Ednilson Rosa wrote:
>You need to do a reload after removing it.
>
>ER
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>To:
>Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:54 PM
>Subject: delete subinterface [7:18346]
>
>
>hi all,
>
>how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using 'no sub#', but when i do
>'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status deleted...any help
>appreciated
>
>TQ
>
>nazri
>telekom malaysia




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Re: delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-03 Thread Ednilson Rosa

You need to do a reload after removing it.

ER
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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: delete subinterface [7:18346]


hi all,

how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using 'no sub#', but when i do
'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status deleted...any help
appreciated

TQ

nazri
telekom malaysia




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Re: delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-03 Thread Erick B.

After removing a sub interface you need to write mem
and reboot to completely remove it from memory.

--- Md Nazri  wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using
> 'no sub#', but when i do
> 'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status
> deleted...any help
> appreciated
> 
> TQ
> 
> nazri
> telekom malaysia
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RE: delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-03 Thread Chuck Larrieu

have to reload. sorry. that's the only fix.

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hi all,

how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using 'no sub#', but when i do
'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status deleted...any help
appreciated

TQ

nazri
telekom malaysia




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Re: delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-03 Thread Circusnuts

If I recall, you must reload the router with certain versions of IOS (@
least every version I've used).  I've also seen (11.2 I think) were it would
not go away until I wiped the config & pasted it back in without the sub.

.02
Phil

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 9:54 PM
Subject: delete subinterface [7:18346]


> hi all,
>
> how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using 'no sub#', but when i
do
> 'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status deleted...any help
> appreciated
>
> TQ
>
> nazri
> telekom malaysia




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delete subinterface [7:18346]

2001-09-03 Thread Md Nazri

hi all,

how do i delete the sub-interface..? i tried using 'no sub#', but when i do
'sh ip int brie' it still give the sub# with status deleted...any help
appreciated

TQ

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Frame Relay, subinterface and Split Horizon [7:15090]

2001-08-07 Thread cheekin

This document,
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1907.htm, states,
quote "Note: The default split-horizon setting for all LAN interfaces is
enabled. However, for WAN multipoint interfaces configured with X.25, Frame
Relay, or SMDS1 encapsulation, the default split-horizon setting is
disabled.", end quote.

Does WAN multipoint interface in this case include multipoint subinterface?

I found out that multipoint subinterface configured with Frame Relay has
split
horizon enabled.

Is this the correct default setting for Frame Relay multipoint subinterface?


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Re: [F.R.] What's the difference of multipoint subinterface to [7:7927]

2001-06-10 Thread G30RG3

If I understand your question right, one of the reasons is for split
horizon.  I you have a hub and spoke frame relay network and lets say your
hq router has a pvc to dallas and a pvc to boston both comming in to your s0
interface.   well split horizon says that you will not send out a routing
update out of the same interface that it came in from.  So if you receive a
routing update from boston into your s0 interface it will not forward the
update to dallas because split horizon will not let it go out the same
interface that it came from even though it is going to dallas not boston.
It is to prevent routing loops.  do a search on split horizon and routing
loops for a more detailed explaination.

Hope this helps.

George, Head Janitor, CCNA CCDA
Cisco Systems


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> physical
> interface?
>
>
>   Hi Group,
>
>   I don't quite understand why we need multipoint subinterface, during my
> practice it seems that it's exactly the same to physical interface, what's
> the
> difference and in which case it's recommended but not physical interface?
>
>   Thanks,
>   Jerry




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Re: [F.R.] What's the difference of multipoint subinterface to [7:7922]

2001-06-10 Thread Jerry Seven

- Original Message -
  From: Jerry Seven
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:05 PM
  Subject: [F.R.] What's the difference of multipoint subinterface to
physical
interface?


  Hi Group,

  I don't quite understand why we need multipoint subinterface, during my
practice it seems that it's exactly the same to physical interface, what's
the
difference and in which case it's recommended but not physical interface?

  Thanks,
  Jerry




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Re: Configure ATM point to point subinterface [7:4539]

2001-05-15 Thread Richard Deal

This is correct...assuming that the other end IS point-to-point. the
encapuslation will have to match on the two ends, like "aal5snap".

Enjoy!


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Configure ATM point to point subinterface [7:4539]

2001-05-15 Thread Kim Seng

Hi everyone,

Simple ATM configuration question.
I need to use Map-list and Map-group to configure ATM
Multipoint
I DO NOT need to use them to configure ATM Point to
Point?

Am I correct?

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Re: HSRP running on subinterface of 2651 [7:3800]

2001-05-09 Thread andyh

I have set this up on 2/362X/5Xs without any trouble, using ISL rather than
dot1q, although can't imagine it would make any difference.

what do you not have connectivity to?  try extended pings between the real
and vitrual interfaces on the routers with the appropriate subinterface as
the source address

can you post router interface configs and a "show standby brief"?  Also
trunk config(s) and a "show vlan" and "sh vtp domain" from the switch(es)?

hth

Andy

inline also...

Bremen K H Lee wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I encounter some problem and hope that you folks can give me some idea.
>
> I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking
and
> VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the
switches
> on same VLANs.
>
> Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and dot1q
> encapsulation.
>
> Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 1
> FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2

I assume that you mean FE0/0.1 of A & B are in VLAN1?

> I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest HSRP
> priority.
>
> I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to
ping
> from the PC to an interface of B but no response.  But I can ping the
> subinterface of B FE0/0.2.
>
> Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
> configuration??
>
> Thanks bros.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: HSRP running on subinterface of 2651 [7:3800]

2001-05-09 Thread Gareth Hinton

Can you post the configs so we can have a gander?

Gaz
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> Folks,
>
> Sorry I think I mistype something below.  Let me rewrite it here again.
>
> I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking
and
> VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the
> switches
> on same VLANs.
>
> Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and dot1q
> encapsulation.
>
> Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.1 of B are on VLAN 1
> FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2
>
> I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest HSRP
> priority.
>
> I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to
ping
> from the PC to an interface of B say FE0/0.1 but no response.  But I can
> ping the
> subinterface of B FE0/0.2.  I can also ping from A to B FE0/0.1.
>
> Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
> configuration??
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bremen
>
>
> ""Bremen K H Lee""  wrote in message
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> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I encounter some problem and hope that you folks can give me some idea.
> >
> > I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking
> and
> > VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the
> switches
> > on same VLANs.
> >
> > Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and
dot1q
> > encapsulation.
> >
> > Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 1
> > FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2
> >
> > I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest
HSRP
> > priority.
> >
> > I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to
> ping
> > from the PC to an interface of B but no response.  But I can ping the
> > subinterface of B FE0/0.2.
> >
> > Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
> > configuration??
> >
> > Thanks bros.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
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Re: HSRP running on subinterface of 2651 [7:3800]

2001-05-09 Thread Bremen K H Lee

Folks,

Sorry I think I mistype something below.  Let me rewrite it here again.

I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking and
VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the
switches
on same VLANs.

Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and dot1q
encapsulation.

Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.1 of B are on VLAN 1
FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2

I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest HSRP
priority.

I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to ping
from the PC to an interface of B say FE0/0.1 but no response.  But I can
ping the
subinterface of B FE0/0.2.  I can also ping from A to B FE0/0.1.

Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
configuration??


Cheers,

Bremen


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> Hi folks,
>
> I encounter some problem and hope that you folks can give me some idea.
>
> I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking
and
> VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the
switches
> on same VLANs.
>
> Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and dot1q
> encapsulation.
>
> Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 1
> FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2
>
> I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest HSRP
> priority.
>
> I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to
ping
> from the PC to an interface of B but no response.  But I can ping the
> subinterface of B FE0/0.2.
>
> Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
> configuration??
>
> Thanks bros.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
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HSRP running on subinterface of 2651 [7:3800]

2001-05-09 Thread Bremen K H Lee

Hi folks,

I encounter some problem and hope that you folks can give me some idea.

I have 2 2651, say A and B, connecting to a group of switches.  Trunking and
VTP are running on the switch group.  Each 2651 is connecting to the switches
on same VLANs.

Say there is VLAN 1 and VLAN 2.  Both 2651 are running trunking and dot1q
encapsulation.

Ok, FE0/0.1 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 1
FE0/0.2 of A and FE0/0.2 of B are on VLAN 2

I setup HSRP on both subinterface and router A is always the highest HSRP
priority.

I have a PC connecting or with IP address of VLAN 2 segment.  I try to ping
from the PC to an interface of B but no response.  But I can ping the
subinterface of B FE0/0.2.

Is there any issue running HSRP on vLAN subinterface or do I miss any
configuration??

Thanks bros.


Cheers,

Bremen




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Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread Erick B.

It will if they both have different IP subnets, thus
the floating route has it's own next hop.

If you want to go further you can use route-maps and
do policy routing. If PVC1 was down you could match on
the sub interface that was up and change the next hop.
Same for other PVC...

Why are you backing up one PVC with another PVC on the
same physical circuit? I work with Frame regularly and
a majority of the time frame outages involve the
entire circuit (loss of signalling / LMI, circuit
down, line problems, etc) and not just one PVC, unless
each PVC is going to a different site/spoke and the
spoke was having line/LMI issues. If this were the
case then routing traffic for this site over the other
PVC might make sense if that spoke/site had a link to
the original destination or served as a backup for
that location being down.

--- Adam Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for all your input on setting up a floating
> static suggestion, but the 2 PVCs that I have are
> both active and in production, and each is carrying
> different type of traffic.  
> 
> They are both acting as primary links.  I want to
> set up something that if one fail, it will jump to
the
> other one.  I don't think floating static will work
> in
> this case.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> --- Kelly D Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The way my company does it is to weight routes for
> > the two PVC's.
> > 
> > Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252
> > no ip route-cache
> > no cdp enable
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 20
> > !
> > Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
> > ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252
> > no ip route-cache
> > no cdp enable
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 21
> > !
> > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2
> > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200
> > !
> > end
> > wr
> > 
> > This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it
> is
> > directly connected.
> > Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link
> > should become unreachable.
> > You have to be careful with the administrative
> > distance on the backup route.
> > If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP,
> > etc.) you will have to
> > take into account what the default distances are
> for
> > these protocols.  Keep
> > in mind that a route that points to an interface
> is
> > distance 0 and a route
> > to an IP address is distance 1.
> > 
> > Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> > Network Engineer
> > Kg2 Network Design
> > http://www.kg2.com
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Adam Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM
> > Subject: backup subinterface on another
> subinterface
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a
> serial
> > > interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these
> 2
> > > subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.
> > >
> > > I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow
> a
> > > subinterface on the backup command, only the
> > physical
> > > interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.
> > >
> > > Why is that and how can I do this
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> 


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Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread Circusnuts

could be way off, but what if you look @ this on the domain side (if
possible) & setup HSRP.  Assuming you are able to run ILMI & the interface
will indeed go down when it needs to, I'd let the load balance take place
before hitting the ATM network.

.02
Phil

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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface


> What differentiates the traffic?
> Different destination IP networks?  Then floating statics should be OK.
> Different protocols?  Then you need to look at each type of traffic
> independantly - you can set up floating statics for IPX, and maybe other
> protocols.
>
> What are your different types of traffic?
>
> JMcL
> -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 15/02/2001
> 01:37 pm ---
>
>
> Adam Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 15/02/2001 05:31:40 am
>
> Please respond to Adam Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
>
>
> Subject:  Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface
>
>
> Thanks for all your input on setting up a floating
> static suggestion, but the 2 PVCs that I have are both
> active and in production, and each is carrying
> different type of traffic.
>
> They are both acting as primary links.  I want to set
> up something that if one fail, it will jump to the
> other one.  I don't think floating static will work in
> this case.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> --- Kelly D Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The way my company does it is to weight routes for
> > the two PVC's.
> >
> > Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252
> > no ip route-cache
> > no cdp enable
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 20
> > !
> > Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
> > ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252
> > no ip route-cache
> > no cdp enable
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 21
> > !
> > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2
> > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200
> > !
> > end
> > wr
> >
> > This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is
> > directly connected.
> > Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link
> > should become unreachable.
> > You have to be careful with the administrative
> > distance on the backup route.
> > If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP,
> > etc.) you will have to
> > take into account what the default distances are for
> > these protocols.  Keep
> > in mind that a route that points to an interface is
> > distance 0 and a route
> > to an IP address is distance 1.
> >
> > Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> > Network Engineer
> > Kg2 Network Design
> > http://www.kg2.com
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Adam Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM
> > Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface
> >
> >
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial
> > > interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2
> > > subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.
> > >
> > > I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a
> > > subinterface on the backup command, only the
> > physical
> > > interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.
> > >
> > > Why is that and how can I do this
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam
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Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread jenny . mcleod

What differentiates the traffic?
Different destination IP networks?  Then floating statics should be OK.
Different protocols?  Then you need to look at each type of traffic
independantly - you can set up floating statics for IPX, and maybe other
protocols.

What are your different types of traffic?

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 15/02/2001
01:37 pm ---


Adam Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 15/02/2001 05:31:40 am

Please respond to Adam Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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cc:


Subject:  Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface


Thanks for all your input on setting up a floating
static suggestion, but the 2 PVCs that I have are both
active and in production, and each is carrying
different type of traffic.

They are both acting as primary links.  I want to set
up something that if one fail, it will jump to the
other one.  I don't think floating static will work in
this case.

Adam



--- Kelly D Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The way my company does it is to weight routes for
> the two PVC's.
>
> Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252
> no ip route-cache
> no cdp enable
> frame-relay interface-dlci 20
> !
> Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
> ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252
> no ip route-cache
> no cdp enable
> frame-relay interface-dlci 21
> !
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200
> !
> end
> wr
>
> This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is
> directly connected.
> Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link
> should become unreachable.
> You have to be careful with the administrative
> distance on the backup route.
> If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP,
> etc.) you will have to
> take into account what the default distances are for
> these protocols.  Keep
> in mind that a route that points to an interface is
> distance 0 and a route
> to an IP address is distance 1.
>
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> http://www.kg2.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM
> Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface
>
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial
> > interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2
> > subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.
> >
> > I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a
> > subinterface on the backup command, only the
> physical
> > interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.
> >
> > Why is that and how can I do this
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > Adam
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Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread Adam Wang

Thanks for all your input on setting up a floating
static suggestion, but the 2 PVCs that I have are both
active and in production, and each is carrying
different type of traffic.  

They are both acting as primary links.  I want to set
up something that if one fail, it will jump to the
other one.  I don't think floating static will work in
this case.

Adam



--- Kelly D Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The way my company does it is to weight routes for
> the two PVC's.
> 
> Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252
> no ip route-cache
> no cdp enable
> frame-relay interface-dlci 20
> !
> Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
> ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252
> no ip route-cache
> no cdp enable
> frame-relay interface-dlci 21
> !
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200
> !
> end
> wr
> 
> This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is
> directly connected.
> Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link
> should become unreachable.
> You have to be careful with the administrative
> distance on the backup route.
> If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP,
> etc.) you will have to
> take into account what the default distances are for
> these protocols.  Keep
> in mind that a route that points to an interface is
> distance 0 and a route
> to an IP address is distance 1.
> 
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> http://www.kg2.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM
> Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface
> 
> 
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial
> > interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2
> > subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.
> >
> > I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a
> > subinterface on the backup command, only the
> physical
> > interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.
> >
> > Why is that and how can I do this
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > Adam
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Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread Kelly D Griffin

The way my company does it is to weight routes for the two PVC's.

Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
frame-relay interface-dlci 20
!
Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
frame-relay interface-dlci 21
!
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200
!
end
wr

This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is directly connected.
Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link should become unreachable.
You have to be careful with the administrative distance on the backup route.
If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP, etc.) you will have to
take into account what the default distances are for these protocols.  Keep
in mind that a route that points to an interface is distance 0 and a route
to an IP address is distance 1.

Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://www.kg2.com


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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface


> Hi group,
>
> I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial
> interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2
> subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.
>
> I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a
> subinterface on the backup command, only the physical
> interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.
>
> Why is that and how can I do this
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Adam
>
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backup subinterface on another subinterface

2001-02-14 Thread Adam Wang

Hi group,

I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial
interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2
subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails.

I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a
subinterface on the backup command, only the physical
interface.  So backup interface s0 is possible.

Why is that and how can I do this


Thanks in advance


Adam

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Re: When do we have to use subinterface on FR config?

2000-12-21 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

How about when setting up traffic shaping and or differing rules for differnt people 
on different PVC's on the same interface.

To my way of thinking the extra functionality for the little extra configuration it is 
usually well worth it.  But then again it's horses for courses.  It is however a lot 
more work if you don't have sub interfaces configured then find out you need to do 
something to a PVC that lives with all the others.  

The good thing about subinterfaces is they are not physical you can therefore do stuff 
to one user ie shut, no shut change and configs without affecting all on the physical 
interface.

Teunis,
Hobart.Tasmania
Australia





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> 
> Inline .
> 
> --- Jim Healis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not always.
> > You should only have to use subinterfaces for
> > point-to-point FR connections. Otherwise
> > you can use on interface for many connections...
> > point-to-multipoint. 
> 
> A subinterface configured as multipoint gives you the
> same functionality , or not ?
> 
> router(config)#interface serial 0/1.200 multipoint
> 
> 
> flem
> > We used this in
> > my last company, but it made my head spin everytime
> > the IXC changed the mapping.
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Re: When do we have to use subinterface on FR config?

2000-12-21 Thread Flem


Inline .

--- Jim Healis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not always.
> You should only have to use subinterfaces for
> point-to-point FR connections. Otherwise
> you can use on interface for many connections...
> point-to-multipoint. 

A subinterface configured as multipoint gives you the
same functionality , or not ?

router(config)#interface serial 0/1.200 multipoint


flem
> We used this in
> my last company, but it made my head spin everytime
> the IXC changed the mapping.
> 
> -j
> 
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> 
> > Always.
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Re: When do we have to use subinterface on FR config?

2000-12-21 Thread Jim Healis

Not always.
You should only have to use subinterfaces for point-to-point FR connections. Otherwise
you can use on interface for many connections... point-to-multipoint.  We used this in
my last company, but it made my head spin everytime the IXC changed the mapping.

-j

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Re: When do we have to use subinterface on FR config?

2000-12-21 Thread Flem

Always.


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When do we have to use subinterface on FR config?

2000-12-21 Thread frank

Thanks

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Re: MRTG to monitor Router's subinterface???

2000-11-15 Thread A. Geoffrey Cauchi

Yes this can be done

Just specify the subinterface in the mrtg.cfg file

Geoff


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MRTG to monitor Router's subinterface???

2000-11-14 Thread GNOME

Hi

As above, can we monitor the router's subinterface utilization?

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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-07 Thread Brian Lodwick

Jeff McCoy,
  I agree the administrative distance is 0 for all directly connected 
interfaces when using any routing protocol, but as the first entry says from 
I think Jeff Walzer routing will first look for the most specific entry- 
most contiguous bits specified left to right. So the entry that only 
specifies /24 bits will be superceeded by the entry specifying /28 bits 
regardless of the administrative distance.
- I just got a refresher on this fact a few minutes ago.

>>>Brian


>From: "Jeff McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Jeff McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Subinterface question
>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:02:39 -0500
>
>yea..its the routing mechanism that determines the metric...but (correct me
>please)  dont all routing protocols give a metric of 0 to directly 
>connected
>networksand therefore, the metric would be 0 in this situation
>regardless of the routing method selected?
>
>""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:p0500190cb62c956ab24a@[63.216.127.98]...
> > >If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
> > >subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
> > >routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected
>networks.
> > >
> > >Thoughts from anyone else?
> > >
> > >-jm
> > >
> > >""Jeff Walzer"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>  Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized
>(10.10.1.x -
> > >>  10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
> > >>
> > >>  When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for 
>the
> > >>  10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
> > >>
> > >>  Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each
>subinterface
> > >>  increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
> > >subinterface?
> > >  >
> >
> > I'm unclear what you both mean when you speak of metrics.  No type of
> > interface or subinterface inherently has a metric until you define a
> > routing mechanism with respect to that interface -- and that
> > mechanism defines the metric.
> >
> > So OSPF and EIGRP, in practice, use bandwidth as a metric.  RIP uses
> > hop count, which may be what you are thinking of.
> >
> > The zero value for a directly connected network is the administrative
> > distance, which is different from a metric.  Administrative distances
> > rank preferences among sources of routing information, lower values
> > being more preferable. For example, an OSPF route with an
> > administrative distance of 110 will never be preferred to a directly
> > connected route.  A RIP route (to the same destination) will never be
> > preferred to an OSPF route.
> >
> > (note...I'm assuming here that you use the standard route selection
> > algorithms without overriding anything)
> >
> > Metric is used as a tie-breaker between routes of the same
> > administrative difference.
> >
> > Prefix length is considered before administrative distance.  A route
> > of 192.168.0.0/28 from RIP is preferable to any OSPF route to
> > 192.168.0.0/24.
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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-07 Thread Brian

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Jeff McCoy wrote:

> yea..its the routing mechanism that determines the metric...but (correct me
> please)  dont all routing protocols give a metric of 0 to directly connected
> networksand therefore, the metric would be 0 in this situation
> regardless of the routing method selected?

the metric is most definitly 0, as can be witnessed by a "sh ip route
x.x.x.x" of any directly connected address.

Brian


> 
> ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:p0500190cb62c956ab24a@[63.216.127.98]...
> > >If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
> > >subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
> > >routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected
> networks.
> > >
> > >Thoughts from anyone else?
> > >
> > >-jm
> > >
> > >""Jeff Walzer"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>  Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized
> (10.10.1.x -
> > >>  10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
> > >>
> > >>  When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
> > >>  10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
> > >>
> > >>  Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each
> subinterface
> > >>  increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
> > >subinterface?
> > >  >
> >
> > I'm unclear what you both mean when you speak of metrics.  No type of
> > interface or subinterface inherently has a metric until you define a
> > routing mechanism with respect to that interface -- and that
> > mechanism defines the metric.
> >
> > So OSPF and EIGRP, in practice, use bandwidth as a metric.  RIP uses
> > hop count, which may be what you are thinking of.
> >
> > The zero value for a directly connected network is the administrative
> > distance, which is different from a metric.  Administrative distances
> > rank preferences among sources of routing information, lower values
> > being more preferable. For example, an OSPF route with an
> > administrative distance of 110 will never be preferred to a directly
> > connected route.  A RIP route (to the same destination) will never be
> > preferred to an OSPF route.
> >
> > (note...I'm assuming here that you use the standard route selection
> > algorithms without overriding anything)
> >
> > Metric is used as a tie-breaker between routes of the same
> > administrative difference.
> >
> > Prefix length is considered before administrative distance.  A route
> > of 192.168.0.0/28 from RIP is preferable to any OSPF route to
> > 192.168.0.0/24.
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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-07 Thread Jeff McCoy

yea..its the routing mechanism that determines the metric...but (correct me
please)  dont all routing protocols give a metric of 0 to directly connected
networksand therefore, the metric would be 0 in this situation
regardless of the routing method selected?

""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:p0500190cb62c956ab24a@[63.216.127.98]...
> >If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
> >subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
> >routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected
networks.
> >
> >Thoughts from anyone else?
> >
> >-jm
> >
> >""Jeff Walzer"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:005501c047ff$1f8a3e00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>  Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized
(10.10.1.x -
> >>  10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
> >>
> >>  When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
> >>  10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
> >>
> >>  Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each
subinterface
> >>  increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
> >subinterface?
> >  >
>
> I'm unclear what you both mean when you speak of metrics.  No type of
> interface or subinterface inherently has a metric until you define a
> routing mechanism with respect to that interface -- and that
> mechanism defines the metric.
>
> So OSPF and EIGRP, in practice, use bandwidth as a metric.  RIP uses
> hop count, which may be what you are thinking of.
>
> The zero value for a directly connected network is the administrative
> distance, which is different from a metric.  Administrative distances
> rank preferences among sources of routing information, lower values
> being more preferable. For example, an OSPF route with an
> administrative distance of 110 will never be preferred to a directly
> connected route.  A RIP route (to the same destination) will never be
> preferred to an OSPF route.
>
> (note...I'm assuming here that you use the standard route selection
> algorithms without overriding anything)
>
> Metric is used as a tie-breaker between routes of the same
> administrative difference.
>
> Prefix length is considered before administrative distance.  A route
> of 192.168.0.0/28 from RIP is preferable to any OSPF route to
> 192.168.0.0/24.
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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-06 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
>subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
>routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected networks.
>
>Thoughts from anyone else?
>
>-jm
>
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>>  Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized (10.10.1.x -
>>  10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
>>
>>  When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
>>  10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
>>
>>  Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each subinterface
>>  increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
>subinterface?
>  >

I'm unclear what you both mean when you speak of metrics.  No type of 
interface or subinterface inherently has a metric until you define a 
routing mechanism with respect to that interface -- and that 
mechanism defines the metric.

So OSPF and EIGRP, in practice, use bandwidth as a metric.  RIP uses 
hop count, which may be what you are thinking of.

The zero value for a directly connected network is the administrative 
distance, which is different from a metric.  Administrative distances 
rank preferences among sources of routing information, lower values 
being more preferable. For example, an OSPF route with an 
administrative distance of 110 will never be preferred to a directly 
connected route.  A RIP route (to the same destination) will never be 
preferred to an OSPF route.

(note...I'm assuming here that you use the standard route selection 
algorithms without overriding anything)

Metric is used as a tie-breaker between routes of the same 
administrative difference.

Prefix length is considered before administrative distance.  A route 
of 192.168.0.0/28 from RIP is preferable to any OSPF route to 
192.168.0.0/24.

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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-06 Thread Brian

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jeff McCoy wrote:

> If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
> subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
> routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected networks.

Yes, AD of 0, Metric of 0.

Brian


> 
> Thoughts from anyone else?
> 
> -jm
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> > 10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
> >
> > When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
> > 10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
> >
> > Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each subinterface
> > increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
> subinterface?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
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Re: Subinterface question

2000-11-06 Thread Jeff McCoy

If I understand correctly, both networks on the same router..different
subinterfaces.  If Im thinking about this correctly, the metric in the
routing table will be 0 because they are both directly connected networks.

Thoughts from anyone else?

-jm

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> Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized (10.10.1.x -
> 10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.
>
> When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
> 10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?
>
> Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each subinterface
> increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each
subinterface?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
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Subinterface question

2000-11-06 Thread Jeff Walzer

Our internal network has 10 subnets that can be utilitized (10.10.1.x -
10.10.10.x). The router IP address is 10.10.1.1.

When I create a subinterface for 10.10.2.1 what is the metric for the
10.10.2.x subnet to get to the 10.10.1.x subnet?

Being that it is the same router will it be 1 or does each subinterface
increment the metric by 1 thereby making the metric 2 for each subinterface?

Thanks,
Jeff



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Re: subinterface!!

2000-11-02 Thread Brian

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, jeongwoo park wrote:

> hi Brian.
> I have a quick question from what you mentioned
> regarding multipoint subinterface that I have always
> been wondering about.
> You mentioned, "Point to multipoint" and it can
> communicate with many routers within that same
> subnet."

sure..point to multipoint works like a physical interface
would.

> Let's say there is a router in a headquarter, and 2
> routers in a branch office, so let's say there are
> three interfaces are participating in Frame-Relay.
> My quick question is;
> Are you saying that these three participating
> interfaces should be in the same subnet in order to
> communicate?

I am saying thats certainly one way of doing it.  You could just use
physical interfaces accross the board and inverse arp.


> What if they are not in the same subnet?

frame relay map statments then to tell it how to get from A to B.


> Could you make it clear for me?
> Thanks
> jeongwoo
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subinterface!!

2000-11-02 Thread jeongwoo park

hi Brian.
I have a quick question from what you mentioned
regarding multipoint subinterface that I have always
been wondering about.
You mentioned, "Point to multipoint" and it can
communicate with many routers within that same
subnet."
Let's say there is a router in a headquarter, and 2
routers in a branch office, so let's say there are
three interfaces are participating in Frame-Relay.
My quick question is;
Are you saying that these three participating
interfaces should be in the same subnet in order to
communicate?
What if they are not in the same subnet?
Could you make it clear for me?
Thanks
jeongwoo

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must i add command"ip ospf network broadcast" to router's atm subinterface?

2000-11-01 Thread jackie xu

i want to run ospf on atm pvc circuit must i add command "ip ospf network
broadcast" to router's atm subinterface configuration?  (atm subinterface is
configured as point
to point)
i know that if i haven't add this command,the atm subinterface network
type is point to point, if i add ,the network type is broadcast.
i met this problem before, i rememer that i  must set the subinterface
to broadcast type  to run ospf.but it seems as if not be so from
what i read from book.can anybody tell me the truth ? thanks a lot


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Re: Loopback address on serial subinterface

2000-10-30 Thread suaveguru

try using this command ip unumbered loopback 0 or 1
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> 
> Does any one knows how to assign a loopback ip
> address to a serial
> subinterface? Please look at the output of the show
> command below so that
> you understand what I mean thanks.
> 
> Router>sh int s0/0.1
> 
> Serial0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
>   Description: frame-relay PVC to Interlocken
>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of
> Loopback99 (10.66.0.161)
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 256 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
> Router>
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Re: Loopback address on serial subinterface

2000-10-29 Thread Raul F. Fernandez

mlists,

I went ahead and tried to do this on my 2501 router. Basically create your
subinterface "int sx.x". the give it the command "ip unnumbered loopback #".
You must have created the loopback interface ahead of time.

Sincerely,

Raul


I went into one of my routers and
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> Hi There,
>
> Does any one knows how to assign a loopback ip address to a serial
> subinterface? Please look at the output of the show command below so that
> you understand what I mean thanks.
>
> Router>sh int s0/0.1
>
> Serial0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
>   Description: frame-relay PVC to Interlocken
>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback99 (10.66.0.161)
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 256 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
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RE: Loopback address on serial subinterface

2000-10-29 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr.

On your printout, someone first configured an ip address on loopback99 and
then issued the following command under the subinterface:

ip unnumbered loopback99

Winston.




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Hi There,

Does any one knows how to assign a loopback ip address to a serial
subinterface? Please look at the output of the show command below so that
you understand what I mean thanks.

Router>sh int s0/0.1

Serial0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
  Description: frame-relay PVC to Interlocken
  Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback99 (10.66.0.161)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 256 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
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Loopback address on serial subinterface

2000-10-29 Thread Lists Wizard

Hi There,

Does any one knows how to assign a loopback ip address to a serial
subinterface? Please look at the output of the show command below so that
you understand what I mean thanks.

Router>sh int s0/0.1

Serial0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
  Description: frame-relay PVC to Interlocken
  Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback99 (10.66.0.161)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 256 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
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Subinterface config

2000-08-28 Thread ALMEIDA Antonio Jose


I know that the subinterface inherit the configuration from the main
interface. But what appends when subinterface is configured and the
interface is not? I'm asking this because i had one problem with one router
and after many changes to the configuration it started working. I've
compared the first configuration and the one running now and the only
difference is:

frame-relay lmi-type cisco
frame-relay ip rtp header-compression

in the serial interface (but these commands were always in the
subinterfaces). By the way, the problem was with low bandwidth in one
serial. 

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Re: Any difference between secondary address and subinterface for a port?

2000-08-14 Thread William V. Wollman

I do not think Cisco would discontinue the use of secondary IP addresses.
There are so many different uses for them and it seems (at least in my
experience)
that every network hack out there always uses them --- not that i necessarily
always like them--- but if you customers use it and need it there is no reason
to remove it...

my 50 cents (unable to the sense key)

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> um...I think cisco stated that secondary addresses will not be supported in
> some future IOS releases, so.. that's a decent reason not to use them.
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Re: Any difference between secondary address and subinterface for a port?

2000-08-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Secondary addressing and subinterfacing serve different purposes. In 
my less than humble opinion, the major applications for secondary 
addresses are workarounds for problems caused by the dinosaur of 
classful addressing. These are discussed in detail in Chapter 5 of my 
_Designing Addressing Architectures for Routing and Switching_, but 
some applications include:

-- making more hosts available than are available with a fixed
   subnet mask
-- fixing discontiguous networks
-- dealing with especially stupid host stacks that assume default masks

The underlying concepts of secondaries and subinterfaces are 
different.  Secondaries (called multinets in Bay-speak) map multiple 
subnets/networks to a single broadcast domain, NBMA medium, or 
point-to-point link. Subinterfaces separate the broadcast domains on 
a medium with layer 2 multiplexing (e.g., DLCI, VLAN ID, ATM VC, 
etc.).

There are some complex VLAN configurations where it can even be 
useful to have secondaries on subinterfaces. Personally, I shudder at 
the thought.
"What Problem are you trying to solve?"
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Re: Any difference between secondary address and subinterface fora port?

2000-08-14 Thread Marco Rodrigues

Well from my understanding a subinterface would be better from an  
 
administrative point of view. I.E. Say you want to run two IPX networks on 
 
the same physical interface using the secondary command. If you where to   
 
change the encapulation on the phsyical interface you would affect all IPX 
 
networks. Now if you where to have a subinterface this can be avoided. The 
 
IOS sees these subinterfaces and different logical interfces on the same   
 
physical interface. To round it up, you can perform differnt functions on  
 
a subinterface. IF you where to use the secondary, anything you change to  
 
affect the interface would affect that secondary addres bound to it.   
 
   
 
Group correct me if i'm wrong, or sorta right. I'm kinda new at this :)
 
 

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> Under what circumstance should we choose one of them but not the other?
> 
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Re: Any difference between secondary address and subinterface for a port?

2000-08-14 Thread Briggs

um...I think cisco stated that secondary addresses will not be supported in
some future IOS releases, so.. that's a decent reason not to use them.


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Any difference between secondary address and subinterface for a port?

2000-08-14 Thread Frank Jordan

Under what circumstance should we choose one of them but not the other?


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Re: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-16 Thread Raymond Everson (Rainman)

... m'tinks Ele'Chil' might be on to sumpin' here could you capture the
sho fr pvc / and sho fr map from both ends of the one NOT passing CDP
traffic... and post them?

 yeah, this is of some interest to me too, but priscilla hit the issue
with the "broadcast" thread

 think of all the mechanisms passing the various protocol encaps here
inarp - what's the LPort doing?  What's the CIR/BW?  Util?  When you do
an extended ping with a bit pattern of 0x4040; 0x; & 0x with,
say 150 itterations, what happens?

R/
Rainman

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> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, John Neiberger wrote:
>
> > The PVC is working perfectly, except for CDP.  It's configured exactly like
> > the 89 other subinterfaces on that major interface, so I doubt it's a
> > configuration issue, but it still may be.  The remote side has two PVCs on
> > one major interface and CDP is working on one subinterface only and they,
> > too, are configured exactly the same except for DLCI and IP address.
>
> Do you have problems with other broadcasts not making it on that (or any
> other) PVC? If you're not exceeding your CIR on that PVC (have you
> checked that?), my guess is that the broadcast queue on the
> (sub)interface gets full, or that some other queuing limit kicks in.
>
> > >  Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as inactive?
> > I've
> > >  seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end when the
> > >  router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or so go
> > >  down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch.  In this
> > >  case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is supposed to
> > be
> > >  autosensing with the newer software.
> > >
> > >  If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with the
> > >  timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at all?
> > >  Hmmm.
> > >
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> > >
> > >  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
> > >  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
> > >  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
> > >  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs
> > and
> > >  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
> > >  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
> > >  packets".
> > >
> > >  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
> > brought
> > >  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
> > >  strange...
> > >
> > >  >  This is purely a guess...
> > >  >
> > >  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast
> > keyword
> > >
> > >  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
> > >  >
> > >  >  Priscilla
> > >  >
> > >  >  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
> > >  >  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
> > >  that
> > >  >  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each
> > end
> > >  of
> > >  >  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  Magnus Thorne
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  -Original Message-
> > >  >  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >  >  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
> > >  >  > >
> > >  >  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either
> > globally
> > >  or
> > >  >  >at
> > >  >  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the
> > remote
> > >  side
> > >  >  >I
> > >  >  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
> > >  one of
> > >  >  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output

Re: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-16 Thread John Neiberger

I've checked the CIR and we're doing fine there, especially since this is a
256k fractional t-1 running at about 1% utilization.  Our circuits are not
policed, so even if we were above CIR, nothing gets dropped unless the frame
relay network became obscenely congested.

As I mentioned before, all other PVCs on this major interface work just fine
except one other that has the same symptoms.  When I first brought up this
circuit, I was at the remote site with a laptop in the console port.  Where
I first did "show cdp n", both neighbors were in the list, but after a
minute or two, one of them disappeared and has yet to return.

The line itself is functioning correctly, as far as I can tell. We're not
seeing any interface errors whatsoever and it's been up for a couple of
weeks, now.  Perhaps I've found an IOS "feature."  We're using 11.2(18).  I
think I'll check CCO and see if they've noticed this in the past.

Thanks for all the help!

>  ... m'tinks Ele'Chil' might be on to sumpin' here could you capture
the
>  sho fr pvc / and sho fr map from both ends of the one NOT passing CDP
>  traffic... and post them?
>  
>   yeah, this is of some interest to me too, but priscilla hit the
issue
>  with the "broadcast" thread
>  
>   think of all the mechanisms passing the various protocol encaps
here
>  inarp - what's the LPort doing?  What's the CIR/BW?  Util?  When you do
>  an extended ping with a bit pattern of 0x4040; 0x; & 0x with,
>  say 150 itterations, what happens?
>  
>  R/
>  Rainman
>  
>  ElephantChild wrote:
>  
>  > On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >
>  > > The PVC is working perfectly, except for CDP.  It's configured
exactly like
>  > > the 89 other subinterfaces on that major interface, so I doubt it's a
>  > > configuration issue, but it still may be.  The remote side has two
PVCs on
>  > > one major interface and CDP is working on one subinterface only and
they,
>  > > too, are configured exactly the same except for DLCI and IP address.
>  >
>  > Do you have problems with other broadcasts not making it on that (or
any
>  > other) PVC? If you're not exceeding your CIR on that PVC (have you
>  > checked that?), my guess is that the broadcast queue on the
>  > (sub)interface gets full, or that some other queuing limit kicks in.
>  >
>  > > >  Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as
inactive?
>  > > I've
>  > > >  seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end
when the
>  > > >  router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or
so go
>  > > >  down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch. 
In this
>  > > >  case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is
supposed to
>  > > be
>  > > >  autosensing with the newer software.
>  > > >
>  > > >  If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with
the
>  > > >  timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at
all?
>  > > >  Hmmm.
>  > > >
>  > > >  -Original Message-
>  > > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > > >  Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface
>  > > >
>  > > >  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no
special
>  > > >  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular
major
>  > > >  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine
on all
>  > > >  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the
DLCIs
>  > > and
>  > > >  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being
sent, but
>  > > >  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to
"debug cdp
>  > > >  packets".
>  > > >
>  > > >  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
>  > > brought
>  > > >  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped. 
Very
>  > > >  strange...
>  > > >
>  > > >  >  This is purely a guess...
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the
broadcast
>  > > keyword
>  > > >
>  > > >  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast
address.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >  Priscilla
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  

RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-12 Thread John Neiberger

Yes, all of our configurations are point-to-point on both ends.  we have no
multipoint interfaces in our network.

>  Just had another thought...   Are you using point-to-point subinterfaces
at
>  the remote end also? If not, that could be your problem...  because I
>  think if you don't specify its a point to point SUB-interface the regular
>  interface is going to assume its multipoint.  Then you can go with
>  Priscilla's idea.
>  
>  Cory
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface
>  
>  
>  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
>  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
>  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
>  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs
and
>  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
>  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
>  packets".
>  
>  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
brought
>  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
>  strange...
>  
>  >  This is purely a guess...
>  >  
>  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast
keyword
>  
>  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  >  
>  >  Priscilla
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
>  that
>  >  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each
end
>  of
>  >  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >  >
>  >  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >  >
>  >  >John
>  >  >
>  >  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Mag
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  
>  >  > >  Magnus Thorne
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>  >  > >  -Original Message-
>  >  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  >  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either
globally
>  or
>  >  >at
>  >  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the
remote
>  side
>  >  >I
>  >  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
>  one of
>  >  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No
changes
>  were
>  >  >made
>  >  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
>  particular
>  >  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  >  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report
their
>  cdp
>  >  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >  >subinterface.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
>  happened at
>  >  > >  least twice in our network.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  TIA,
>  >  > >  John Neiberger
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-12 Thread John Neiberger

The PVC is working perfectly, except for CDP.  It's configured exactly like
the 89 other subinterfaces on that major interface, so I doubt it's a
configuration issue, but it still may be.  The remote side has two PVCs on
one major interface and CDP is working on one subinterface only and they,
too, are configured exactly the same except for DLCI and IP address.

Keep throwing out ideas, this is a stange one! :-)

>  John,
>  
>  Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as inactive?  
I've
>  seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end when the
>  router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or so go
>  down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch.  In this
>  case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is supposed to
be
>  autosensing with the newer software.   
>  
>  If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with the
>  timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at all?
>  Hmmm.
>  
>  Stumper.
>  
>  Just throwing out some ideas for ya.   Let us know when you get it
figured
>  out.
>  
>  Thanks
>  Cory
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface
>  
>  
>  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
>  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
>  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
>  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs
and
>  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
>  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
>  packets".
>  
>  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
brought
>  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
>  strange...
>  
>  >  This is purely a guess...
>  >  
>  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast
keyword
>  
>  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  >  
>  >  Priscilla
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
>  that
>  >  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each
end
>  of
>  >  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >  >
>  >  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >  >
>  >  >John
>  >  >
>  >  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Mag
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  
>  >  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  >  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  >  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  >  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  >  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  >  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
>  >  > >  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  >  > >  
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>  >  > >  Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Original Message-
>  >  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  >  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either
globally
>  or
>  >  >at
>  >  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the
remote
>  side
>  >  >I
>  >  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
>  one of
>  >  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No
changes
>  were
>  >  >made
>  >  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
>  particular
>  >  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  >  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report
their
>  cdp
>  >  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >  >subinterface.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  I have noticed this in 

RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-12 Thread Stull, Cory

John,

Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as inactive?   I've
seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end when the
router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or so go
down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch.  In this
case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is supposed to be
autosensing with the newer software.   

If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with the
timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at all?
Hmmm.

Stumper.

Just throwing out some ideas for ya.   Let us know when you get it figured
out.

Thanks
Cory

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface


We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs and
IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
packets".

Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first brought
the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
strange...

>  This is purely a guess...
>  
>  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword

>  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  
>  Priscilla
>  
>  
>  
>  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
that
>  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end
of
>  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >
>  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >
>  >John
>  >
>  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  > >
>  > >  -Mag
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
>  > >  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  > >  
>  > >  eVoice. The best voicemail you can buy is free.
>  > >  Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -Original Message-
>  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally
or
>  >at
>  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote
side
>  >I
>  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
one of
>  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes
were
>  >made
>  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
particular
>  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their
cdp
>  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >subinterface.
>  > >
>  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
happened at
>  > >  least twice in our network.
>  > >
>  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  > >
>  > >  TIA,
>  > >  John Neiberger
>  > >
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-12 Thread John Neiberger

We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs and
IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
packets".

Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first brought
the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
strange...

>  This is purely a guess...
>  
>  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword

>  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  
>  Priscilla
>  
>  
>  
>  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
that
>  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end
of
>  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >
>  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >
>  >John
>  >
>  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  > >
>  > >  -Mag
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
>  > >  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  > >  
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>  > >
>  > >  -Original Message-
>  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally
or
>  >at
>  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote
side
>  >I
>  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
one of
>  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes
were
>  >made
>  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
particular
>  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their
cdp
>  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >subinterface.
>  > >
>  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
happened at
>  > >  least twice in our network.
>  > >
>  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  > >
>  > >  TIA,
>  > >  John Neiberger
>  > >
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

This is purely a guess...

Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword 
on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.

Priscilla



At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said that
>it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end of
>the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>
>Thanks for the tip!
>
>John
>
> >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
> >
> >  -Mag
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> >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
> >
> >
> >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally or
>at
> >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote side
>I
> >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though, one of
> >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes were
>made
> >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This particular
> >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
> >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their cdp
> >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>subinterface.
> >
> >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's happened at
> >  least twice in our network.
> >
> >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
> >
> >  TIA,
> >  John Neiberger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-11 Thread John Neiberger

No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said that
it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end of
the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.

Thanks for the tip!

John

>  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  
>  -Mag
>  
>  
>  Magnus Thorne
>  eVoice, Inc.
>  1394 Williow Road
>  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  Main: 650.330.3700
>  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  
>  eVoice. The best voicemail you can buy is free.
>  Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE
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>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  
>  
>  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally or
at
>  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote side
I
>  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though, one of
>  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes were
made
>  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This particular
>  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their cdp
>  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
subinterface.  
>  
>  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's happened at
>  least twice in our network.
>  
>  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  
>  TIA,
>  John Neiberger
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

2000-07-11 Thread Magnus Thorne

Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?

-Mag


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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CDP not working on subinterface


We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally or at
the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote side I
could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though, one of
them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes were made
to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This particular
PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their cdp
neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular subinterface.  

I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's happened at
least twice in our network.

any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?

TIA,
John Neiberger





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