[e-gold-list] TRUE ANONYMOUS BANKING- E-GOLD accepted
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[e-gold-list] Re: Hush with Internet Exploder
That is just too much trouble to deal with. Too bad for Hushmail. All I need now is for PGP to fail in some miserable ghastly way. Then I went to Internet Exploder 4.72.3110.8 (yeah, cool version number) which masquerades as IE 4.0. And I'm able to login and read messages. So, it may be that if you are not using the Exploder from Microsoft, that your new improved Hushmail isn't working just yet. Hey, it's only a theory, and your mileage may vary. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this year!
[e-gold-list] Re: hushmail.com
I have had the same negative experiences with Hushmail since they upgraded their system. It is slow and cantankerous, and is a huge dissappointment. I have gone back to using PGP manually, but it is frustrating as so few people know how to use PGP. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this year!
[e-gold-list] List for E-Gold Business
Not trying to be picky so much as to avoid irritating people. Is there a list that caters to business/transaction use of e-gold? This is a fine list and provides a lot of useful information, but is not very business related other than in the area of exchange issues. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Price of Gold and WTC?
Amazing as it may seem, I am actually posting a comment about GOLD With all the chaos in the markets and in the world, what is the explanation for the continued doldrums in the Gold market? One would have thought there would have been a rush for the stuff. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Re: against rationalism
The ironic thing here is that those buildings were most likely filled many Moslems from all areas of the world. I suspect more Moslems died from those two planes than have died in the last year at the hands of the hated Israelis. Very Sad. I can't think of a part of the world that is more international than downtown NYC. I mean, it's called the world trade center for a reason. My guess would be that 25% of the people dead have nothing to do with America, they would be citizens of other countries. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Re: against rationalism
Thank God I have a place in Belize. With people like you running the US we are doomed to all die painful deaths at the hands of barbarians. But maybe you are right: Can't we all just get along. Just keep repeating it and you will undoubtedly feel better. PS: What is all this stuff about NUKES? We are dealing with terrorists and few oddball countries. Who are we going to NUKE??? There are 1.5 billion people living in Islamic countries. I reject your thesis that they are all irrational. There are plausible theories why they might hate America, such as the support of nondemocratic regimes to extract oil. Leave me out of your wars. I cannot afford them and will work with great dedication on political resistance to warmaking efforts inside the United States. Your war will fail to gather enough support and money inside the United States, and your soldiers will die in misery on the battlefields. God willing the nukes will not hit the US shores. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that you can spend e-gold to help the victims of terror at: http://www.freedomhound.com:80/servlet/echannel?Request=RenderID=443149Data=1292
[e-gold-list] Re: Insanity
I do not want war. But just hiding is not the answer. I suspect we will not need to use Nuclear Weapons to defend ourselves against terrorists and those nations who support them. So I don't think I will respond to your dream. On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:24:39 -0400, GoldSpender wrote: I hope you do not want World War III. I saw a dream this night... there was nuclear war... War is not the answer: It is the reality. We are under attack. We either fight or surrender. When your enemy refuses to settle for peace then you must fight or be defeated. That is the situation. We are opposed by people who do not want PEACE. They want VICTORY Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-gold Ltd. stores more gold on behalf of customers than many countries? See http://www.gold.org/Gra/Gra1.htm and the e-gold Examiner at http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html for details.
[e-gold-list] Re: Insanity
Well it looks like the US is now at war. Just who is the question? I hope people realize that this is the result of 8 years of the Clinton Administration badgering the Israelis to make peace with enemies who want only VICTORY. You cannot make peace with an enemy that does not want peace. Now we will have to fight because our enemies do not respect and fear us. Perhaps they will learn to, but at what price? Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you know that e-gold Ltd. stores more gold on behalf of customers than many countries? See http://www.gold.org/Gra/Gra1.htm and the e-gold Examiner at http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html for details.
[e-gold-list] Re: Non-resident aliens taxation
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[e-gold-list] Re: Reply to Ian Green about Paritate
It is easy to say, What could they have done? I suspect that the Central Bank and the other banks could have done something other than shut down the phone lines, the fax lines, the internet connections, the debit cards, etc. with no explanation other than we're done. In a situation like that the Central Bank probably should have come in and taken over the bank, and/or worked with others to try to save the bank, if for no other reason that saving the reputations of the OTHER banks. The Central Bank's job is not to protect Paritate, nor even to protect the client's of any one bank, but is to protect the banking system. In such a small country, a failure such as Paritate will darken the entire Baltic Banking System. I for one will not be placing my money there, regardless of what anyone tells me of the quality of the bank. Everyone knows that Paritate had terrible customer service. But this was not a customer service problem. (I doubt any of the other institutions in the former Soviet block are any more customer friendly.) This was a lack of capitalization. That is a problem that clever bankers who have a little long range vision could have solved. I doubt you would have found them in Paritate. But obviously you won't find them in the Central Bank or the other banks either. Take and good luck in the North. On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:19:10 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Glencannon Group Ltd. wrote: It really quite odd that the other banks in Latvia allowed this to happen? Don't they understand that the fall of Paritate, in such crude and unsophisticated manner, will only reflect ill on those more functional banks? I think everyone in that area needs to learn a few things about managing marketing issues and particularly crisis situations. Although I'm from Estonia (northern neighbor of Latvia), I can't see what other banks should have done. Should the tellers of Parex and Saules banks have stormed the Paritate with automatic rifles and take control before the crisis situation? The fact is that there isn't much you can do except giving your best servicing your customers when you see your competitor going belly up. But I'm still eager to listen to your suggestions, what the other banks should have done. The state has gave some thought of these kind of situations and their response has been the institution of Central Bank. CB's duty is to monitor the private bank and revoke their license when they see that bank is becoming insolvent. This seems to pretty efficient, although I personally think that the free market system is even more efficient. When Soviet occupation ended in Estonia we had 0 banks. Some 9 years ago we had near 40 banks (in a country with population of 1.5 million people!). Today we have only 7 or 8 banks, out of which 5 are really small ones or branches of foreign banks. It is natural process, please bear in mind that countries in Baltic region has been building capitalism only for 10 years, while Western countries have done it fro 200 years. I hope this gives you some perspective. For the record: I'm not customer of any Latvian banks and I'm don't know details of that particular incident. I'm just living in the region :-) Regards, Paul Vahur IceGold P.S. It actually reminds me a good anecdote (a true story): When one old lady from some Western country was told how after the WWII NKVD (the old name for KGB) deported overnight some few hundred thousand peoples from Baltic states to Siberia, she asked: But why didn't you called the police?!?. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOzr2j0kfcBeFLocdEQJIDwCeNq8MK3hazokoopMgP/s/ETrik4wAn2Ds nkiJMdAYhVD5Xw9+t8vzOq/1 =lz+T -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Reply on Latvia
It is amazing to me how such an operation could lose money! The average offshore bank charges frankly offensive fees to receive money, to send money, to issue debit cards, to handle debit card transactions, and to provide the most rudimentary of services. They usually give modest interest rates, and should be able to turn around and make a huge profit on some very basic investments on the money they hold. Also, they usually operate from areas where the cost of hiring competent employees is reasonable, and other aspects of overhead are extremely manageable. How could you lose money with a deal like that? On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:58:39 -0600, Destiny Worldwide Net wrote: -- Subject: Re: Reply to Ian Green about Paritate From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:54:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Message-Number: 38 Indeed everything you say is true. It really quite odd that the other banks in Latvia allowed this to happen? Don't they understand that the fall of Paritate, in such crude and unsophisticated manner, will only reflect ill on those more functional banks? I think everyone in that area needs to learn a few things about managing marketing issues and particularly crisis situations. I am sure there are some banks who do. I doubt that Latvia's largest bank cares much, as they have a substantial and growing customer base of their own. Of the other banks, Saules was recently bought out by Rietumu, meaning that those two banks probably could not particiapte in a buy out at this time. But from what I have experienced, Paritate was not run very well. we tried to open an account there for about 4-5 months a couple of years ago and had nothing but problems, lucky for us! We got nothing but the run around and lost a little bit of money. But at least we didn't loose as much as if we would have had an active account. There is a bank here in Costa Rica that bills itself as an offshore expert bank, but when you get below the surface, it is a slock operation just like Paritate. IN fact, I have joked sometimes that this bank in Costa Rica and Paritate must have a management exchange program because they are both terrible to deal with. But this particular bank in Costa Rica also has a negative net worth, if what I saw them doing last year is any indication. I already talked about this a year ago, so I will not bore all of you with the details, but they have a rapidly expanding customer base, but WHERE is the money going, because they would on a rotating basis subtract money from people's accounts and then put it back in before the statement cutoff and there was no indication on the statement to show where thousands of dollars [out of several accounts, mind you] had gone for a couple of weeks. Yet, as the managers of the fund, we knew that customer complaints about non working debit cards was not an isolated incident, but business as usual for these folks. Also, when we went to withdrawa the final monies from the fund on the way out the door, they stalled on issuing the check for several hours, with the first thing they said being that they could not find the money in the account, and after about an hour and a tirade from me, they all of a sudden discovered it, it was all just an oversight, you see Bottom line, when someone wanted cold, hard cash from this bank it took the bank a while to find it.. This is fractional reserve banking at its worst! My suspicion is that someone at the top is either massively incompetent beyond belief [more likely than in most countries] or a crook or both. Needless to say, we are very happy to have gotten away from them unscathed last year and to have established new relationships with competent banks with good customer service. Bad customer service is a sign of worse trouble than the customer can imagine. This is also what worries us about egold so much, but that is a topic for another day. John http://www.offshorearnings.com http://destiny-worldwide.net Thank you all the same for the information. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE!
This is no rumor. The National Bank of Latvia closed the bank by withdrawing its license. This took place yesterday morning. I would like to know what happened, but don't go blaming the messenger. The information is important. I wish it had been delivered earlier. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:18:55 +1000, Ian Green wrote: You're kidding me! Someone just speculated on this list on the damage that could be done if the mechanism of an I love you or Anna Kournikova virus, were used to propagate a claim that a particular bank is bankrupt, and people should immediately withdraw their money! (The main mechanism is the use of email and an instruction to spread the word, or sometimes automated forwarding.) Now only hours later someone does it! Rumours like this have brought down many a stronger financial institution (because of partial reserve backing). Please, Destiny Worldwide, provide verifiable primary evidence, and do not ask people to spread the word on imperfect and incomplete information. I don't have an account with this bank, but I still would not like a run like this to bring down this or any other bank that provides good services to small, not necessarily rich, individual international clients, that most banks refuse to provide. Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242 -Original Message- From: Destiny Worldwide Net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 7:26 AM To: e-gold Discussion Subject: [e-gold-list] URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE! I realize that this is not directly egold related, but as many people on this list are freedom lovers and might have an account at Paritate Bank, please read this immediately and spread the word! We have been informed by our contacts in Latvia that Paritate Bank is bankrupt and about to loose their license. If you know anyone who has an account there, it would be wise to inform them at once so that they can take their money out. John SNIP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................
Paritate is dead. What is the first thing every account holder is going to do? pull out their money. Even if the situation gets resolved, no one is going to trust Paritate any more. This is one of those things you don't let happen. ONce it happens, the bank is dead. Even if someone bought the bank at this point, they would be buying an empty box. They would really have to do some fast talking to keep even 10% of their accounts in the bank. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:32:03 -0400, Steven wrote: Paritate bank is closed right now, sort of. They are having a dispute fo some sort with Bank of Latvia which is like the central bank in Latvia. The Bank of Latvia suspended the international bank licence but they are still registered as a local Credit Union. Paritate said they should have everything wrapped up in a day or two, which hopefully will be the case. All the best, Steven --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................
NOthing would make me happier than if that was true. However the reality is that the second after they get back up and running, everyone is going to pull their money out. Where are they going to get that money? They know this. I have been trying to open up a new account there for the last two months. I thought they were being even more stupid tan usual, but alas, they were doing me a favor. If Paritate rises from the ashes, it will fall soon after. Not unless it can convince a lot of very nervous people that their money is safe. If you have an idea on how to do that, let them know. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:55:38 -0400, Steven wrote: Hello, Your assumptions are a bit premature and emotionally tainted. Paritate Bank is experiencing problems right now. There is no word on the permanency of this issue, but the bank has personally told us that everything should be operational in two or three days. It seems that Paritate Bank has placed a lot of the bank equity in the US stock market and the value of the securities they are holding has dropped in worth to the point where the liquidity of the bank is now an issue. They are working to fix this problem by increasing the equity of the bank through potential investors. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................
I sincerely hope you are right, but at this point I think my vacation money is gone! On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:06:58 +0200, offshoresurfer wrote: Paritate is dead. What is the first thing every account holder is going to do? pull out their money. Even if the situation gets resolved, no one is going to trust Paritate any more. This is one of those things you don't let happen. ONce it happens, the bank is dead. Even if someone bought the bank at this point, they would be buying an empty box. They would really have to do some fast talking to keep even 10% of their accounts in the bank. I understand your point, but a rescue package from another buyer is often an optimum solution for everybody. Just a couple of years ago the Riga Commerce Bank went through similar problems but was bought out by a German bank and now everybody is happy. offshoresurfer --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE!
Could you provide sourcing for this? On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:26:08 -0600, Destiny Worldwide Net wrote: I realize that this is not directly egold related, but as many people on this list are freedom lovers and might have an account at Paritate Bank, please read this immediately and spread the word! We have been informed by our contacts in Latvia that Paritate Bank is bankrupt and about to loose their license. If you know anyone who has an account there, it would be wise to inform them at once so that they can take their money out. John --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Paritate?
Unfortunately it seems that the Theater is indeed on fire. Paritate has been shut down, and all links have been severed. Phones, internet, debit cards, etc. Would welcome any news. On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:59:20 -0400, Ken Griffith wrote: Well, if they ain't bankrupt yet, with news like that running around the net, they soon will be! The net seems like such a nice theatre in which to yell, fire. Hackers write viruses, just to see what they'll do. People start urban legends just to see who will believe them. And now, we may have the first case of a internet-sparked bank run! How long until the rebellious teenage hackers of the world discover how much fun it is to put fractional reserve banks out of business with bank-run inspiring chain letters? I'm not questioning the veracity of the story, I just find the concept very interesting. Ken - Original Message - From: Destiny Worldwide Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE! I realize that this is not directly egold related, but as many people on this list are freedom lovers and might have an account at Paritate Bank, please read this immediately and spread the word! We have been informed by our contacts in Latvia that Paritate Bank is bankrupt and about to loose their license. If you know anyone who has an account there, it would be wise to inform them at once so that they can take their money out. John --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Safe Secure Investment
DERRR. What a surprise. I think I am going to have to go back and see how many people will put money into my account in exchange for my deep desire to return it to the sender! What a fine clientele e-gold attracts. On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 08:34:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Does anyone know anything about Safe Secure Investments? I was making spends into their investments (GAMES?) in January. All of a sudden their name web site was removed from the Internet along with all of the money I (and I'm sure thousands of others) had invested with them. It does seem to be really difficult to have any recourse when a new investment scheme (or scam) decides to just pick up and abscond with everyones money. It seems to me that it is easier to do when it is considered an offshore investment company. Who regulates those people? When we are trying to make investments to try to improve our cash flow and find out there are just too many scams out there makes a person a little jumpy. mcf --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: MetalSavings update
Whether MetalSavings observes all the US tax laws regarding disclosure, withholding, etc. I suspect not everyone does this. As such it could become a target of US government in order to get a list of all users. For instance, they are paying interest on deposits. Are they a bank? Have they received a ruling stating that it is ok to do this business in the US? do they have the SS or Tax ID numbers of all depositers? Are they withholding 30% of all interest for foreign investors? Do they report all transactions over $10,000 US to the IRS?? Give me more time, and I will come up with more onerous requirements that are probably not being met. Each will result on seizure of the company's asets (and loss of individual's gold). On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:19:49 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW. You mean you guys set this thing up inside the US? You are damned right that people would feel more comfortable with the server somewhere else. Just to show how dangerous a little knowledge is. When I saw the KZ stuff I assumed that was in an effort to set up a service that was offshore. Again, the danger of assumptions. I must say, I can't really see any need for metal savings to be offshore? MS is just a place that stores e-gold for you -- it's not one of these endless pyramid schemes or whatever :) --- "Intel is a photo printing company. Microsoft makes a text editor. Amazon or eBay can be programmed in a day with Perl or Basic and run on a $500 machine. The whole of 'IT' (banking, finance, markets, etc.) is no more complicated than a $10 Casio name and address organizer. We are in the low-tech age." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley raided by the feds?
Just because you believe that the income tax is illegal, and quote some worthless legal basis, you still have to face the simple fact that not ONE Federal District Judge or higher Judge agrees with you. As such you have only two options: The martyr approach. Don't pay, don't file, and make a lot of noise about it. Join wacko groups like the "American Pure Trust" folks, and other conmen and ripoff artists. Keep all of your money in US banks where it can be easily found and garnished by the IRS when they get around to jump on you. Place worthless liens on your property that requires about one hour in court to have removed by the IRS. Wait for the storm troopers to come down on you, and hope that people remember what you stood for. Pay for your funeral arrangements in advance. The non-martyr approach. Review the system, and find out its weak points. Attack the system from within and without using its own rules. Take advantage of every loophole provided. Use legal onshore asset protection devices, and offshore accounts to insure that you can get your money if all hell breaks loose. Survive to enjoy the money your did not pay in taxes. Make sure you do it legally so that no one can make you suffer for the greedof others. Prosper. Remember success is the best revenge. Of course there is a third option: Do nothing and just pay the damned taxes, but that is too unpleasant to contemplate for me. I think this whole notion that taxes are bad or good is based on the notion that the "government" is a separate entity from the people. Face it: The Government is the People. And the People have decided to tax producers into oblivion. In a Democracy that is there right. And in a Democracy it is our right to decide whether we want to continue to play the game. Don't blame the "government" and then say you are pro-American and for the People. All the People want to do is rape you! The same people who voted for Clinton and Gore will vote for another communist that will decide your money would be better off in their pocket. So enough patriotic mumbo jumbo. Paying taxes is the ultimate vote of approval. If you like what The People are doing, then pay the taxes, if you don't like what The People are doing than starting THINKING. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: MetalSavings update
WOW. You mean you guys set this thing up inside the US? You are damned right that people would feel more comfortable with the server somewhere else. Just to show how dangerous a little knowledge is. When I saw the KZ stuff I assumed that was in an effort to set up a service that was offshore. Again, the danger of assumptions. On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:43:02 -0800 (PST), joe blob wrote: [This is my second attempt to send this; my appologies if this is going through twice. Yahoo mail isn't our normal email system.] As MetalSavings users are probably aware, the MetalSavings site, which is hosted on the www.sidereal.kz server, has been down for two days now. What happened is that our colocation ISP has abruptly ceased being in business. The first we found out about their going out of business was when our website went off the air. The ISP was Alameda Networks (www.alameda.net). You can see that sidereal.kz's address, 209.0.55.58, should be routed to Alameda Networks' ASN, which is hosted behind Level3, and you can see that Level3 is no longer routing it. The solution is for us to pick another ISP, preferably one which will be in business for the long-term. We have two options on this. The first is to pick up the machine from Oakland, CA, and install it at another colocation facility in the Bay Area (there are dozens of them). This would allow us to get back on-line this weekend. The second option is to configure a new machine, with upgraded hardware and software, and install it in a colocation facility outside the United States. Many of our customers would feel more comfortable if their data were kept outside the US. Also, the hardware and operating system of the current server are due for major upgrades or replacement. The drawback for this second option is that it will take more time. We have been planning new hardware and a new colocation facility for some time now, so we do have a new machine which is almost ready to ship (it only needs a new Ethernet card), and we have, with the help of one of the members of e-gold's highly international community, identified a suitable colocation facility outside the US. If we take the second option, we'll be able to restore service probably on Wednesday. We realize that this delay is inconvenient for our customers, but we think that additional benefits of doing this right (improved hardware, software, and jurisdiction) outweigh the drawbacks (two extra days of downtime). We hope that our customers understand that MetalSavings is still in the testing stages. When we finally have our official launch, we will have all necessary redundancy and backup, so that outages can be minimized. We'll also be using some exciting new software with some amazing new security and other features. You'll be impressed. Again, we are relying on our customers' understanding as we solve this problem. Bear with us, and be ready for an amazing new website in the next couple of weeks (unfortunately this outage has set our launch back by about a week). Please feel free to email if you have any questions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley raided by the feds?
No I am afraid they would not send a squad car. When I say "Tax Protester" I am not referring to people who walk around federal court houses with signs. At least those are not the people the IRS is targetting. I am talking about people who participate in schemes that the IRS identifies as criminal conspiracies to defraud the US govt of tax dollars. When they hit they hit hard because they don't want to give you time to destroy the evidence: wipe a hard drive, destroy backup etc. Examples of such criminar conspiracies that the IRS views with disdain are the "America Pure Trusts" folks. There are several of them sitting in jail right now and the IRS is looking for more. Any tax reduction/avoidance plan that involves kooky legal theories about the illegality of the tax code, and is based inside the US is unlikely to get you anything else than a one way ticket to the big house. If he was just raided for being a "Tax Protester" I think a simple squad car would have been sent to pick him up, possibly an IRS Agent or pair of FBI G-men. I do not claim to be an expert on Law Enforcement raiding strategy, but it appears to me that if "heaps of men" DID in fact participate in this raid they were looking for something specific. I have lived in this country all my life and find our justice system to be a bit whacked at times, but all in all, it has managed to turn this country into one of the world's most desirable places to live. NO DOUBT MANY FEEL THAT WAY. UNFORTUNATELY MANY FEEL THAT THEY CAN DISREGARD THE LAW AND NOT GO TO JAIL. VERY UNFORTUNATE SINCE THE TAX LAWS ARE SO EASY TO AVOID WITHOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley raided by the feds?
I am indeed making an assumption, and you know what that means. But... This does not sound like a credit card fraud operation unless they suspected he was involved in stealing peoples cards, etc. It sounds to me like IRS-Treasury tactics that's all. On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:03:11 -0600, GoldDirectory.com wrote: Sounds to me that they are treating him like a "Tax Protester." Although I wish him and his family the best, it should be taken as a lesson on how not to handle tax issues. I don't know if he was a Tax Protester or even linked with them in any way, but if the IRS thinks you are, you will have problems. Arguing about arcane issues of the law with men with guns is not a good situation to be in if you care about your family's lives and your property. Why do you assume this? If the rumor is true, then the issue is most likely credit card fraud. From Parker's own words, he processed over $200,000 in fraudulent credit card charges. If this is true, then I would think that 'someone' would want to investigate this. Of course, I am confident that Parker is innocent of any wrong-doing, but that's an awful lot of fraud. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley raided by the feds?
Sounds to me that they are treating him like a "Tax Protester." Although I wish him and his family the best, it should be taken as a lesson on how not to handle tax issues. I don't know if he was a Tax Protester or even linked with them in any way, but if the IRS thinks you are, you will have problems. Arguing about arcane issues of the law with men with guns is not a good situation to be in if you care about your family's lives and your property. There are better ways of dealing with oppressive tax regimes, particularly a system filled with so many loopholes. Otherwise accept the inevitable: Gandhi and Martin Luther King died in their struggle to overcome hostile forces through passive resistence. If you are not willing to do so, you should rely on cunning and knowledge of the tax code, and how to work the system. Avoid overtly hostile acts and bizarre US based tax schemes that do not have the approval of the IRS and/or at least competent tax counsel. Good luck to Parker and his family. On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:22:08 -0500, Steve Foerster wrote: I just heard that Parker Bradley's home was raided by a platoon of U.S. federal agents, that all of his belongings were bagged and removed as "evidence", and that during his subsequent interrogation they tried to lead him to implicate e-gold itself as involved in credit card fraud. But I didn't hear it from Parker. Has anyone heard from him recently? Is he okay? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] The Heartbeat Network Program
Announcing the kick-off of a new business opportunity that combines charity and finance: "The Heartbeat Network Program" The SpringRock Trust is a Charitable Trust that is accepting donations from individuals and businesses around the world. The SpringRock Trust was established to fund Congenital Heart Disease research and to aid those who suffer from this disease. All net income from the Trust will be distributed to charities and/or individuals who suffer from the disorder with the goal of curing this terrible disease and helping to alleviate the pain for those who now suffer from it. All donation are welcome, but the Minimum donation to become a Registered Donor in "The Heartbeat Network" is $500.00 US which will be distributed as follows: 1. $300.00 will be deposited into interest bearing accounts and investments that will go to fund the charitable purposes of the Trust. 2. $200.00 will go to pay commissions to Registered Donors based upon the following 6 Level Network system: Level 1: $60.00 Level 2: $10.00 Level 3: $10.00 Level 4: $10.00 Level 5: $10.00 Level 6: $100.00 Example: If you sign up 10 people, you will receive $600.00 (Level 1). If they sign up 10 people each, you will receive $1,000.00 (Level 2). If these people sign up 10 people each, you will receive $10,000 (Level 3). If these people sign up 10 people each, you will receive $100,000 (Level 4). If these people sign up 10 people each, you will receive $1,000,000 (Level 5). And if they sign up 10 people each, you will receive $100,000,000. Now admittedly, these results are unlikely to take place, but you can see the power of the multilevel commission schedule. Even if the 10 people you sign up only sign up 1 person each, and each of them only sign up one person, and so on, you are going to receive a considerable amount of money. $600.00 (Level 1), $100.00 (Level 2), $100.00 (Level 3), $100.00 (Level 4), $100.00 (Level 5), and $1,000 (Level 6). This amount totals $2,000.00. With hard work you should be able to achieve much more. (Note: No commission will be paid for donations of less than $500.00) With your donation you make it possible for thousands of children to live in hope that someday there will be a cure. Plus you receive the opportunity to benefit from your kindness. With a donation of $500.00 you become a Registered Donor. For every donation of $500.00 or more which you obtain on behalf of the Trust, you will receive a commission based upon the above commission schedule. In addition you will become a Member of The SpringRock Trust Intranet (http://springrock.intranets.com/) that will provide you with up-to-date information on the progress of this fund raising campaign, and the latest news on Congenital Heart Disease. Do something good, not just for yourself, but for those around you. Turn your entrepreneurial energies to good use today!!! Join this simple but effective program. Yes, I want to help children who suffer from Congenital Heart Disease by making a $500.00 donation and becoming a Registered Donor. Name: ___ Address: __ Telephone: Fax: email: ___ I would like my commissions to be paid to me: by check made payable to the above person mailed to the above address, or by deposit into my e-gold account # __ For more information e-gold, go to http://www.e-gold.com/ Payment Methods 1. Visa/MasterCard [ATTENTION: Charge of $530.00 ($500.00 plus 6% fee) will be billed to GLENCANNON GROUP LTD.] Card Type: Visa or MasterCard (circle one) Card Number: Card Expiration Date: _ Cardholder Name:__ (as shown on card) X_ Authorized Signature PLEASE FAX THIS FORM TO 419-710-4339 or mail to: The SpringRock Trust c/o Alexander J. Hay III, esq. 10303 Northwest Freeway, Suite 260 Houston, TX 77092 2. e-gold: Deposit to account 256982. Immediately email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with confirmation (for more information on e-gold go to www.e-gold.com) 3. By Check: Make Checks Payable to The SpringRock Trust, and mail to: The SpringRock Trust c/o Alexander J. Hay III, esq. 10303 Northwest Freeway, Suite 260 Houston, TX 77092 OFFICE USE ONLY ACCOUNT NUMBER: _ SPONSOR # 1001 Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this
[e-gold-list] The Squire Organization Intranet
The Squire Organization is a group of International Consultants who are dedicated to providing the highest level of service in Offshore Tax Planning, Business Planning, Marketing Consulting and related services. Please feel free to visit: http://squire-org.intranets.com/ You will need to request an invitation. Hope to hear from you! Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: fictional e-gold company!!!
Very nice add. I wonder why no one else has come up with this??? Is this humor imitating reality, or reality imitating humor? On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:43:15 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey look at this! (Especially Jim!) http://www.bananagold.com/oddsandends/weird-ad.jpg Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ If you found the contents of this email useful to you, and you have an e-gold account, please feel free to follow this link: http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?107685[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Great New Business Opportunity
Often I choose to deal with serious issues with humor. The fact that you do not have a sense of humor is a problem. So I will try to deal with a perceived problem in a more "infromative" manner: Why do smart people, even those in e-gold, succumb to fraudulent activities that are impossible to sustain? If I post a absurd comment like, "I can guarantee you 300% return on your money in 3 months!" No one will question the value of the information. But if someone said, "I am putting together an offshore mutual fund where expected returns will be 8% to 25% annually, with a serious withdrawal penalty." I would get blank stares. I don't try to be serious on this site because it does not receive serious consideration. Why is that?? On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:22:16 -0700, AIRX Enterprise wrote: Why do I continue to subscribe to the e-gold-list? I'm so sick of worthless information. If it's not worth your time, why would you think it worth our time? Please stop. Let's keep this list clean and informative. For four months now I have deleted nearly 95% of all emails simply because the first three line are just garbage. I thought if I subscribed, I might learn a thing or two, but ... well, I'll just end it here and let you all figure it out. Thank you. Erick ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Services required
What can you do in exchange for 20 to 100 to help fund your education? I have to work quite hard for my filthy lucre, so I generally don't give it away without a fair exchange. For instance can you work? That is what I did when I was in college. I had 4 jobs to pay for my beer and pizza. Please describe what you can do in exchange for a little bit of scratch and you might have more luck. On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:55:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In need of some help in going to college. Could someone help by sending me 20 to 100 to help fund my education. My parents aren't able to. I would very much appreciate it. Thank you Joe. 244298 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Great New Business Opportunity
I have been informed by the powers that be that my latest and greatest business opportunity is not welcome on the list. I apologize. However, it was referred to as a "fake scam". I am not sure what that means. I guess only REAL scams are allowed on this list. BUT This is not a scam, not even a fake one. If one had chosen to read through it, one would have found buried in the barbed humour a legitimate offer. But I realize it is a bit much to read, although I think most will find it entertaining. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Off shore bank accounts
Looks like another well designed, pretty web site. And everything is being given away free... HMMM. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:55:03 +1100, Michael Moore wrote: I have found an off shore bank account that is free at http://www.off-shore.tv/cgi-bin/ref.cgi?9101 further information available at http://www.egroups.com/messages/goldtoday Kind regards, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542 http://www.visarebates.com/Index.cfm?ReferralID=goldtoday --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Off shore bank accounts
It is just amazing how everyone around here is so generous!! I just hope they aren't going to have problems with the police like some of the past generous people. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:38:45 -0500, CCS wrote: Looks like another well designed, pretty web site. And everything is being given away free... HMMM. It sure is generous of them to offer to store everyone's egold for free, isn't it? What a deal. I just can't wait to send them everything I have. CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] European Seminars on International Tax Strategies
The European Tax and Offshore Institute has announced this years seminar schedule. 20, 21, 22 April 2001 Prague 18,19, 20 May Vienna 26, 27, 28 June Luxembourg 20, 21, 22 July Budapest 17, 18, 19 August Dublin 21, 22, 23 Sept. Florence Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information, or send your fax number, email, or snail-mail address and a brochure will be sent. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Off shore bank accounts
I guess the thing that really irritates me about these scams is not that everone falls for them, but that they fall for things that obviously don't work, and then ignore strategies that do work. I want to avoid paying taxes as much as anyone, and have not desire to see any government get any more tax money, but allowing a bunch of con-artists to steal your money, mislead you about what their goals are, and then leave you alone and in the dark is simply intolerable. I am sure most people on this list were fond admirers of the American Pure Trust. This is an extreme example of pig-headed thinking taken to its worst extreme. Yet thousands of people have been duped out of their money, and mislead into committing serious felonies. And the worst part about the American Pure Trust is that it is not even an effective criminal activity. All it does is make the Judge and Jury think you are a stupid criminal. I know nothing about this particular program. However, anyone who is trying to convince you to set up a free offshore bank account, without any details about the nature of the account and the program is not playing square. Furthermore, depending upon how it is set up, the user could get into a lot of trouble needlessly. Whether you agree with the laws or not, it is just stupid to do things that are considered illegal by the law enforcement officers when there are legal ways of doing the same things. Ways that will not get you locked up. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:19:48 -0500, CCS wrote: I presumed that it would be obvious to everyone that this was intended sarcastically. It sure is generous of them to offer to store everyone's egold for free, isn't it? What a deal. I just can't wait to send them everything I have. It occures to me that I may have presumed too much. So let me repeated that it was sarcastic in the exreme. CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Off shore bank accounts
Well I must admit the IRS is famous for retroactively changing policies that result in what was once appropriate becoming inappropriate. But at least you have some leg to stand on. With some of these programs the victim unwittingly participates in a fraud to defraud the government of tax revenue. Just because they were victims of some con-game, does not mean they are not also culpable for the illegal activities they unknowingly participated in. when there are legal ways of doing the same things. Ways that will not get you locked up. But I with this I disagree. Probably we have different ideas of the "things" to be accomplished and certainly with the reliance that it is prudent to place in the guarantees of governments. CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Free Trial Offer
The Squire Organization, LLC is offering a 30 day free trial examination of its intranet. at http://squire-org.intranets.com/ this is what you get: 1. Access to well known legal consultants. 2. Access to many reports and other material free of charge. 3. Access to a discussion forums on Offshore issues. 4. A free email address. 5. Access to instant messaging, conferences, and chat among the members. 6. Access to special free online seminars. This trial offer will end on February 15, 2001. At that point if you want to remain a member, an annual fee of $25.00 US will have to be paid at that time. But until then it is all yours! Go to: http://squire-org.intranets.com/ And request access. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] European Seminars on International Tax Strategies
FYI: The European Tax and Offshore Institute has announced this years seminar schedule. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information, or send me your fax number, email, or snail-mail address and I'll see that a brochure is sent. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Fraud
I am sure no one is going to be upset other than people who are looking to invest with him. He really can't be cheating anyone can he? Only the finest of people provide 100% guaranteed profits using e-gold. On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:01:06 -0500 (EST), B Ray wrote: Please be on the alert for a Terry Church, who is wanted by the Moreno Valley California Police (1-909-486-6819 Detective Herman Brown) for theft and fraud in connection with a bank debenture program and a gold investment scam. I do not know if he is a e-gold acct holder or not, and he may be using alaises. please excuse this if you feel it is not for the list, but I thought as many people should know of the damage a person like this can do and has already done. I have personal knownledge of his actions and crimes. Please pass this person's name to as many people and lists as you can. Play for fun or for Real, Win Gold http://www.thegoldcasino.com/win.cgi?3202416 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Potential Markets for e-gold [was: Glencannon's wrong, IMO
cell slide open, I would thank FF as I juggle that cell phone and my car keys and slip out the door knowing I had made a new client and will be receiving progeny incentive payments on a regular basis. And that my friends, would be all she wrote! (Or in this case...all I am writing!) Thanks for listening, Eric ps. This diatribe was intended to illustrate the advantages of utilization of e-metal for business purposes. Stereotypes and good natured jokes contained within were meant for humor purposes only. Offense should not be taken by anyone who feels their profession of choice was characterized by this journal. Used car salesmen and CPA's are not bad people and should not be treated as such due to your reading this article. All names and faces have been changed to protect the identity of the innocent. Finally, no animals were harmed in any fashion during the production of this material. Brought to you by the humor-filled individuals at Gaithman's Gold Exchange, Inc. Visit Gaithman's Gold Exchange, Inc. at http://businesses.msn.com/GEGE for all of your e-metal needs today and everyday for the rest of your life! - Original Message - From: George Matyjewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Potential Markets for e-gold [was: Glencannon's wrong, IMO At 08:57 AM 12/22/2000 -0800, Glencannon Group Ltd. wrote: I agree with you 100%, e-gold would be ideal for many International Transactions that would obviate the need for bank wires. These transactions would most likely involve some sort of currency conversion headache anyway, so why not use gold And if you are thinking of using gold as a basis for the transaction why not e-gold??? I think e-gold needs to sell itself as a practical gold substitute, and then go and sell gold. But e-gold is not marketing itself in this manner. I am not really sure how e-gold is marketing itself. The job of good marketing is to package the product so as to convince people like me and others that e-gold is the tool to use. Are there certain markets that e-gold should be focusing on? And if so what is the best way of doing so? Damn. Sounds like you are a shill for Standard Reserve g. That's exactly what we found. So we decided to do a full blow ad campaign, including focus groups, market research, terrestrial sales force, agents, support (now a 10-seat support group), etc. We believe there is an excellent market here, if we tell the story properly. Now, I'll give y'all a challenge. How do you tell the non-gold world (you know, the other kzillion people out there) the benefits of using gold? How do you convince, otherwise intelligent people, that the gold economy is not comprised of a group of right wing libertarians who want to overthrow the currency systems of the world? That it is really a very efficient and cost-effective way of doing business. Try it. You are on the ground floor of the Empire State Building and who gets on the elevator with you going (alone - just the two of you) to the 62nd floor, but that person you have been trying to sell on the concept of gold. What are you going to say? What you do for a living? Here's your opportunity to give your elevator speech a/k/a/ a 90 second commercial. George __ George Matyjewicz, Chief Executive Officer Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA Acct# 120018 Tel: 770-300-3070 Ext 2818 World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Potential Markets for e-gold [was: Glencannon's wrong, IMO
How do you convince, otherwise intelligent people, that the gold economy is not comprised of a group of right wing libertarians who want to overthrow the currency systems of the world? But that is what we are! Why just received my Worldwide Gold Economy secret instructions, and it specifically orders me to go out and destroy the currency systems of the world. PS. That was a secret. cont. Below That it is really a very efficient and cost-effective way of doing business. Try it. You are on the ground floor of the Empire State Building and who gets on the elevator with you going (alone - just the two of you) to the 62nd floor, but that person you have been trying to sell on the concept of gold. What are you going to say? What you do for a living? Here's your opportunity to give your elevator speech a/k/a/ a 90 second commercial. George Hey, how you been doing? What do you make of the markets? Crazy huh. Up one day, down the next. Some people got wiped out yesterday, and here the market is up again. I am sure glad I put some of my money into Gold. Yes Gold. The only currency to maintain its value for 10,000 years, and it is a great hedge against inflation. How? Well there are lots of ways of investing in gold: specie, options, but I like e-gold the best. What is e-gold? It is a revolutionary concept that provides ownership of gold with the ease and functionality of the internet. ITs great. If I need my gold liquidated, I can have check cut for me from one of many reliable market makers in a day or two. Or wires, etc. I just feel better knowing that some of my investments are in gold, but that I don't have to worry about storing/hoarding the gold, or how to sell coins and ingots when I need funds. HEck, there are even a small number of businesses out there that are starting to accept e-gold. And the numbers are growing every day. Check it out, here I wrote the URL on my business card. Give me a call if you have any questions. And I accept e-gold myself, so you can feel free to pay me in e-gold if you ever need my services. __ George Matyjewicz, Chief Executive Officer Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA Acct# 120018 Tel: 770-300-3070 Ext 2818 World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
You have proven my point. Instead of hiring additional accounting staff to handle the complications of foreign currency transactions (which I suspect they did too), they hired a programer to write a complex program to handle the calculations. That means spending money to handle a transactions. I am not saying that e-gold is impossible to use for large companies. I am saying that there would need to be some economic motivation to justify the extra expense. In your company's case, they must do enough foreign currency transactions to justify the expense of revamping their accounting department software and personel. In order to effectively use e-gold a company would have to do similar actions. I don't think e-gold gives such economic motivation to any but pyramid schemes. On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:12:53 -0600, Craig Haynie wrote: But if you are big company that does 1000s of transactions a day, e-gold would drive your accounting department bonkers. And they just can't ignore it and hope the IRS doesn't find out. I disagree again. Take the company I work for: $200 million a year, using about 6 different currencies every day. However, I wrote the billing software for them, and the accounting software they use is designed to work with multiple currencies. I won't go on any further, but I simply do NOT see the problem. E-Gold transactions are just data, and the manipulation of data can be automated. Indeed, it's the smaller companies that may have a harder time, but the larger ones won't even blink. Sincerely, Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: Tax Implications/accounting (was E-gold scam survey)
The IRS requires that every transaction involving the "sale or exchange" of
a capital asset must be treated as either a capital gain or loss, with
certain exceptions which are generally spelled out rather clearly.
Therefore using e-gold involves a sale or exchange of a capital asset (gold
holdings) to receive some property whether it be currency or a good or
service.
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:53:27 +1000, markab23 wrote:
I agree whohartedly.
Sidd you hit the nail on the head.
this was what i was trying to say, but in a less sophisticated manner.
the Tax Office usaually looks at the intention of the transaction and/or
business.
= Original Message From "Sidd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Hi,
I have been watching this conversation and am interested in the view
that most people are taking. I don't have any experience of US tax
laws or the IRS code on capital gains tax, but in most countries,
there are fairly open guidelines about capital gains taxes that are
"interpreted" on a case by case basis. For instance, if you bought and
lived in your family home for 6 years, then after having a couple of
kids, sold and bought a larger house, even large profits realised in
the sale of your first home would not usually attract capital gains
tax. If on the other hand you bought and sold 3 houses in a month, you
would certainly attract some capital gains tax. The difference is that
you are speculating.
It would be open to interpretation if utilising e-gold for daily
transactions could be considered as speculating, since your
"intention" is not to create profits by trading gold. In fact on many
daily transactions, you may even lose profit, meaning you could claim
capital losses and reduce your tax burden!
Another point that everyone here seems to have completely overlooked
is the fact that accounting software is extremely complex stuff that
does an incredible job of looking after the finances of a business.
Even large businesses usually have more data entry personnel than real
accountants and bookkeepers these days, the software does it all. If a
large firm saw the advantage of using e-gold for thousands of
transactions a day as has been suggested, it would be an INCREDIBLY
SIMPLE matter to have an accounting module added to their existing
software that would do ALL the extra work necessary to take into
account the capital gains/losses and include the results in the
various balance sheets. All that "may" be necessary, depending on the
structure of the businesses payment model, would be an extra field in
the input form like: e-gold transaction? Yes|no. this is a total
no-brainer :-)
Have you ever been to a duty free shop at the airport? Those guys
accept any currency you could hand to them without the blink of an
eye, select the appropriate currency on the register, and without a
twitch, complete the transaction AND give change. That is a MUCH more
complex operation than accepting e-gold and I guarantee the DF shop
owner doesn't lose any sleep over his accounts. It is all handled by
his software.
If you want to use information age currency and solutions, you have to
stop thinking of "industrial age" methods and move on to the relevant
technology. Anyone who can't see how simple it all really is, just
doesn't realise the capabilities of modern information systems.
Regards,
Sidd.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glencannon
Group Ltd.
Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2000 12:21
To: e-gold Discussion
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
The discussion we are having concerns the issue of whether e-gold is
appropriate for US companies. NOt Belize companies. If you were
located in
Belize, or some other tax haven this whole discussion would be
irrelevant.
(MAYBE - A Belize company that does business in the US is bound to
observe
US tax laws.) But I suspect that most users of e-gold are neither
foreign
residents nor US residents who have properly structured their business
activities abroad. As such they are stuck with the stinking IRS!
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:49:11 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:43:42 -0800 (PST), "Glencannon Group Ltd."
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Of course accounting is a headache, and if you are small business
company
or
individual with a small amount of transactions, you can pretty
much
ignore
it. But if you are business doing millions of dollars in
business,
you
can't.
I thought glencannongroup was based in Belize.
Are you complaining about record keeping for the Belize tax system?
I am curious because this would definately take Belize off my list
of
locations
for a
[e-gold-list] Re: Glencannon's wrong, IMO
idea]. I predict even the mainstream media will finally notice e-gold next year, and they will grow like mad then. In fact, I think that Amazon.com is going to have an e-gold account 365 days from now or, alternatively, they'll be in bankruptcy. e-gold seems to be about the only thing that can save both them and a lot of other fundamentally-fucked-up dot.com's, and that's going to work to all our benefits (even Glencannon's) in the gold economy next year. IMNSHO, YMMV, etc. jammer99 Barbara Feldon rulez 86 IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Money Froze!!!! Latest Update of EE-Ventures
WOW! They have been in operation for all of 2 to 3 months. They must be legitimate. HAHAHA. On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:16:52 -0500, Jonn B. Goode wrote: They have been in operation since 10/00 and as we all know if they were a scam they would be gone by now either by their own demise or by government closure. The truth lye's in the fact they are still here and working. YEAH RIGHT!!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Money Froze!!!! Latest Update of EE-Ventures
You know I am so impressed by your logic on this one that I think you might just be able to manage a little toll bridge I was planning on setting up in Brooklyn. Maybe you could make a modest investment in it and I'll make you Chief Operating Officer. I also have some beach front property in Nebraska that I would be willing to part with for a reasonable sum. On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:13:22 -0700, AIRX Enterprise wrote: Well said! And thank you! For a week now I have read these messages that put e-Biz down, but I bit my lip and kept my mouth shut. Well fellow e-Biz member, you took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you. A Loyal E-Biz Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Privacy, You are incorrect about E-Biz, They will continue to use E-Gold just in a reduced manner, As the company has grown by leaps and bounds (over 25,000 in two months) it has become painfully obvious that E-Gold can not handle the surge of growth, This is by no means totally the fault of E-Gold as any company would be hard pressed to keep up with such unexpected growth. The reason for going to a offshore bank has NOTHING to do with paying taxes, Only that this is a bank that will allow E-Biz to operate the way it needs too. The way you suggest doing things is painfully complicated to the average person and would do those of us in the USA no good at all tax wise being E-Biz issues 1099's to us and we need to report all our earnings for tax's, You see E-biz is a real company with real people and is not a scam as most of us have become accustom to seeing on the net, I have seen many on this list try to tear E-Biz down in the past few weeks, These are simply people that have no clue what they are talking about! E-Biz is a sound,solid legal company based in the US and in compliance with all government regulations, They have been in operation since 10/00 and as we all know if they were a scam they would be gone by now either by their own demise or by government closure. The truth lye's in the fact they are still here and working. A very satified E-Biz member --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
True if you hold the e-gold, its ok. But if you use there is a question. And if you cash out, your screwed. It is just too much accounting work to tolerate. That is why no legitimate tax paying business can afford to use e-gold. It will cause their accounting departments too much headaches. It is useful for non-taxpaying entities only. And as such e-gold will always have a very limited exposure. On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:22:01 +1000, markab23 wrote: It could be argued that the question of capitalgain/loss does not occur unless you 'cash in' or bail out your e-gold. You are actually holding gold not a currency set against it as far as I know. Also tax offices also look at intention. If you are holding gold as a reserve or as an investment the case for capital gain/loss is clear. but if you are holding it for transactional purposes the case is no clearer than if you are using fait funds for transaction purposes which also may rise and fall in the market against other currencies. If you buy english oounds to buy something in the uk and during the transaction the pound rises suddenly have you made a capital gain? A capital gain is based on the investment of funds for into a investment body or subject which then returns a value ghigher than the original investment and only if the funds are then retrieved. This might all sound niaive and tell me if it doesnt make sense.= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I guess what I meant by "recognition" and as I think about it I realize it is a bad choice, is the IRS would recognize the receipt of e-gold as an income transaction and not a capital transaction. If you could treat 1.00 in e-gold as income instead of worrying about capital gains and losses, it would not be a problem. Glencannon Group Ltd. The problem isn't that receiving 1.00 in e-gold isn't considered income. The problem is that USD flucuates against 1.00 in e-gold. This is what capital gains/losses are. It is the same situation if you hold onto GBP, JPY, CHF, etc... The USD flucuates against them as well. The IRS doesn't claim that they aren't valid currencies. The only way to get rid of the capital gains/losses problem is to peg 1.00 of e-gold to x amount of USD. OR... You could just clear out your account at every possible instant. That way you can still accept e-gold, but not have the problem of capital gains/losses. Viking Coder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by http://www.telstra.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
I believe e-gold will have to be treated as a commodity purchase or as a foreign currency. Either way the accounting is cost prohibitive for any but the largest of transactions, or for non-taxable entities. On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:47:36 -0500, CCS wrote: I guess what I meant by "recognition" and as I think about it I realize it is a bad choice, is the IRS would recognize the receipt of e-gold as an income transaction and not a capital transaction. I see. And payment of e-gold as an expense... The IRS has some rules for taxation of barter trade, altho I am not familiar with them. I expect the IRS would treat use of e-gold as a form of barter. Another (much less likely) possibility is that the IRS would treat trade in terms of e-gold just like it does the business of corporations that do substantial business in a "foreign currency". How is that handled without getting into the same problem of accounting for every single transation of a foreign branch as a foreign exchange speculation? CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
The issue of whether e-gold is valid currency is not the issue. It is the very fact that it might be treated as such that gives problems. And even if you cleared out the e-gold on each transaction, it is just too complex an accounting problem for serious businesses to deal with. With the caveat being tax-exempt businesses and transactions. On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:52:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess what I meant by "recognition" and as I think about it I realize it is a bad choice, is the IRS would recognize the receipt of e-gold as an income transaction and not a capital transaction. If you could treat 1.00 in e-gold as income instead of worrying about capital gains and losses, it would not be a problem. Glencannon Group Ltd. The problem isn't that receiving 1.00 in e-gold isn't considered income. The problem is that USD flucuates against 1.00 in e-gold. This is what capital gains/losses are. It is the same situation if you hold onto GBP, JPY, CHF, etc... The USD flucuates against them as well. The IRS doesn't claim that they aren't valid currencies. The only way to get rid of the capital gains/losses problem is to peg 1.00 of e-gold to x amount of USD. OR... You could just clear out your account at every possible instant. That way you can still accept e-gold, but not have the problem of capital gains/losses. Viking Coder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
BINGO! On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:06:17 -0600, Craig Haynie wrote: Maybe you should consider tracking your transactions in grams instead of dollars. If you are basing your business on E-Gold, then you should be using grams as your base currency. The dollar value of your transactions becomes mute. I think you're missing the point. At the end of the year, you are going to have to compute the capital gains tax on each transaction. If you are liable for US taxes, then you have to keep a record in US dollars. The dollar will only become 'mute' when the IRS accepts gold as payment, (or the capital gains tax is eliminated :) ) Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
Of course the transactions can be tracked, but why? If I just take $100.00 I have one transaction to list, and no tracking of Cost Basis whatsoever. there needs to be strong incentive to incure this sort of inconvenience, and at this point the only incentive has been for scammers to use e-gold. Since they are breaking the law anyway, who the hell cares if they track capital gains implications of thousands of transactions. God help the people who participate in these scams however, because if the IRS ever gets wind of the potential of lost capital gains revenue, they will have a field day. On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:26:28 -0600, Craig Haynie wrote: I buy $1,000.00 US in e-gold. The price of gold goes down. I use $100.00 of e-gold to buy something. I now have a transaction that needs to be accounted for. In this case I will incure a capital loss, and say still have $850.00. Then someone buys something from me, and pay me in e-gold, $100.00. This is an income transaction. However, the price of e-gold goes back up to what it was when I first bought my gold. I have more or less $1,000.00. If I buy something else, what is the basis for the transaction. Each transaction should be listed as a purchase or a sale of e-gold! You can list the item purchased or sold in the memo field. If I buy $1000 US in e-gold, this goes in as an e-gold purchase, as it should. If I then SPEND $100 to Joe Blow for a used copy machine, then this goes in as a SALE of e-gold at the current exchange rate. If you want to list the copy machine as an EXPENSE, then you will need to flag the transaction in some way, as an expense, or you may need to list it on a separate line. (If you have to list it in a separate location, or on a separate line, as an expense, then I see where you're coming from. You may need to make a double-entry for all itemized expenses.) Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
I agree with you that all this accounting business is a horrible headache, and that is the problem. Little guys can more or less just ignore it and hope the IRS doesn't find out and if they do hope the IRS just doesn't care. But if you are big company that does 1000s of transactions a day, e-gold would drive your accounting department bonkers. And they just can't ignore it and hope the IRS doesn't find out. On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:12:54 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally see your point - and agree that is the way things should be done if we are to study and learn all the official rules. But I get a headache thinking about how inefficient the process is. In my scientific mind I just use grams. Looking at your example, who derives value from all that?? All I can see is that it supports a few bureaucracies. It provides no benefits to the company, except to help it fail. For my company, I just want to have good numbers to see where the money is going, how much I have and make a budget. That is pretty simple if using grams of gold. No worrying about currency fluctuation, inflation, deflation (well really you would - but indirectly). To take your point further, with precision, we should include inflation deflation in all our accounting on a minute to minute basis. Never mind the fact that the governments figures are widely discredited. And what type of inflation are we talking about? Financial, goods, services, M1, M3, oil, gold, all of them in a basket? The problem is all this stuff is relative to everything else and subject to differences of opinion. My point, taken to extremes, is to use the mass (not weight) of gold, so that even a budding moon colony or space craft will not feel disenfranchised. Mass is not relative to anything I know of and can't be messed with by governments. We have a global economy, despite all vested interests, efficient business evolution will eventually create a simple way to transfer value. We can either wait till someone officially says the obvious or do it ourselves. ~"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not too simple." Albert Einstein If this post is worth 2 cents send me 2 milligrams instead: 110237 :) choose to ignore the whole thing, maintain limited records on a few odd transactions, or don't use it at all because my head is starting to hurt. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
The discussion we are having concerns the issue of whether e-gold is appropriate for US companies. NOt Belize companies. If you were located in Belize, or some other tax haven this whole discussion would be irrelevant. (MAYBE - A Belize company that does business in the US is bound to observe US tax laws.) But I suspect that most users of e-gold are neither foreign residents nor US residents who have properly structured their business activities abroad. As such they are stuck with the stinking IRS! On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:49:11 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:43:42 -0800 (PST), "Glencannon Group Ltd." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course accounting is a headache, and if you are small business company or individual with a small amount of transactions, you can pretty much ignore it. But if you are business doing millions of dollars in business, you can't. I thought glencannongroup was based in Belize. Are you complaining about record keeping for the Belize tax system? I am curious because this would definately take Belize off my list of locations for an IBC that does its transactions principally in e-gold. don IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
I guess what I meant by "recognition" and as I think about it I realize it is a bad choice, is the IRS would recognize the receipt of e-gold as an income transaction and not a capital transaction. If you could treat 1.00 in e-gold as income instead of worrying about capital gains and losses, it would not be a problem. On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:19:35 -0500, CCS wrote: You make some good points about the impracticality of using e-gold for a taxpaying business because of the difficulty of figuring out the tax consequences of so much exchange/trading activity. It doesn't matter how much money is in e-gold, it will never be "real" currency until it is recognized as such by governments. But I am not sure what you mean by government "recognition" or why that would improve the situation. Historically, currency in the United States all used to be privately issued. The reason this is no longer the case is that around the time of the Civil War a circulation tax (of 10%, if my recollection serves me right) was enacted for the purpose of driving the private issues out of circulation. [I think this was done as part of Lincoln's Civil War income tax (which was later declared unconstitutional once Lincoln let the Supreme Court justices out of prison).] The last time I checked (which admitedly was 35 years ago) this circulation tax was still on the books. So government "recognition" might only mean being subject to this tax. In any case government "recognition" would, one way or the other, mean government control that would remove all reasons to use it. Now offshore companies that are tax free, and individuals and companies that have no compunction about defying tax laws can use e-gold without too much trouble, but I can't see it being useful for everyday commerce. That's good enough for me. CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Investment Opportunities in Belize
At the end of this note there was an interesting comment/question? What can be done? An ethics code, BBB, etc. would be nice, but the real problem is the participants. It seems to me that not only e-gold, but the entire internet, is prone to scams because everyone on the internet has an immediacy to everything. Every investment must have an immediate turn around, and always a proft. This is not just ignorance but stupidity, but a BBB made up of stupid peole will not protect the stupid people. I just get mildly frustrated at times because tools like this list could be so handy for helping people to get togehter, "network", exchange "useful" ideas, and maybe even do business together. But all it is a soapbox. I think the situation would get better if there was real familiarity, but that is impossible on the internet. On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:56:40 -0500, CCS wrote: You ask very good and important questions. Why does this list cater to such blatant fraud? I don't know that the list caters to fraud. But it certainly seems to attract gullible people and the people that prey on them. Is it the nature of people who invest in Gold and view the capital markets as overvalued? Is it just that the "Offshore" and "Gold Backed" world is prone to wackos??? ... And I am curious as to why e-gold seems to attract so many wackos and so few "serious" people. Superficially that does appear to be the case! But I think that is an overgeneralization. Most people don't go beyond the bounds of well worn common routine. Anyone looking into offshore activities or considering gold is deviating from the common routine of our society. The only people who will do this are either 1) those who don't have good sense or 2) those who think for themselves. Even in the later case this usually entails a certain amount of ignorance/misconception and (hopefully eventual) learning. So there are good reasons to expect a higher percentage of wackos and fumbling. Furthermore, the ambiguities of establishing and maintaining trust in confidential relationships and the opportunity for abuse in the e-gold system attracts crooks for obvious reasons. The question I would like to pose is: how can we devise means to solve these problems? A code of ethics? A BBB? Adoption of certain business practices... Best, CCS --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: E-gold scam survey
It doesn't matter how much money is in e-gold, it will never be "real" currency until it is recognized as such by governments. The unfortunate fact is based on the tax code which mades every single transaction involving e-gold a capital gains or loss incurring transaction. If I buy a book that costs me $25.00, I sell so much e-gold to acquire $25.00 in currency. That transaction must be tracked along with every single e-gold transaction for potential capital gains and losses. For an individual to do so is almost impossible, but the possibility of the government really being concerned is minimal. However, for a legitimate tax paying business, (I'm not even going to think about a public company) to do business in e-gold on any other terms other than very large transactions is impossible. The complex accounting requirements would cost a company too much money to justify accepting e-gold. Now offshore companies that are tax free, and individuals and companies that have no compunction about defying tax laws can use e-gold without too much trouble, but I can't see it being useful for everyday commerce. On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:21:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCS wrote: I did a little research. I did a simple search of the web for "e-gold". It returned over 3000 hits. Looking at the first 20 hits there were 4 obvious scams (and 4 other ads for internet gambling sites). If this extrapolates to the whole sample then there would be over 600 scams involving e-gold. It gives one pause. A substantial part of the growth in e-gold activity may be driven by scamsters. CCS But, when total accounts, or better yet, funded accounts get up around a million, watch regular businesses sit up and take notice. ; ) What's that, about a little over a year from now for total accounts and 2+ years for funded accounts? Roughly speaking. Bob -- http://www.bearerinstruments.com http://www.bearerinstruments.com/assets/BIMDsPGPkey.txt 650C 51DA 734F 697F 5706 3D6A 7712 BCC9 D1AE 00BA --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] EXCITING e-gold exchange opportunity
Well now that I see that this list caters to nothing but the most outrageous business ventures, I think I have come up with the appropriate program for the Holidays. THIS IS EXCITING! IT IS NOT A PONZI SCHEME! THERE WILL BE NOTHING BUT PROFITS!! Simply transfer your e-gold to my e-gold account: 107685 A simpler business model cannot be found ANYWHERE!!! For questions please refer to disclaimer authorized to be issued by our staff attorneys Dewie, Cheatham Howe, LLP, at their webpage found at http://www.DewieCheatham-Howe.com/. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: EXCITING e-gold exchange opportunity
Keep trying. It is worth it. This is an EXCITING offer. 100% guarantee. Would I lie to you? I promise that every dollar going into the account will turn into profit immediately! And this is not a ponzi scheme. You don't have to bring others into the program. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:16:11 -0700, milton sidwell wrote: I wouldn't send any money to any e-gold account until I received the facts. Your disclaimer page does not show up. "Glencannon Group Ltd." wrote: Well now that I see that this list caters to nothing but the most outrageous business ventures, I think I have come up with the appropriate program for the Holidays. THIS IS EXCITING! IT IS NOT A PONZI SCHEME! THERE WILL BE NOTHING BUT PROFITS!! Simply transfer your e-gold to my e-gold account: 107685 A simpler business model cannot be found ANYWHERE!!! For questions please refer to disclaimer authorized to be issued by our staff attorneys Dewie, Cheatham Howe, LLP, at their webpage found at http://www.DewieCheatham-Howe.com/. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: FW: I want some too!!
H. H. H. Where do I sign up. On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:34:34 +1300, Sidd wrote: CONGRATULATIONS!!! As the first payer in the new Glencannon HY scheme, you QUALIFY for or EXTRA SPECIAL SUPER DOOPER EXCLUSIVE ONLY ONCE BRILLIANT OFFER!!! Now you can spend your e-gold (minimum $1000 or more) to our e-gold account # 991199 for the most AMAZING program you ever dreamed of... Christmas is a time of GIVING, make this your best Christmas yet! Do it now... Our website (approved by our accountants attorneys: Gott, Amyl, Fromue Co.) will be available soon, but don't wait, do it now... THIS IS NOT A PONZI SCHEME EITHER! THERE WILL ALSO BE NOTHING BUT PROFITS!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2000 10:03 To: e-gold Discussion Subject: [e-gold-list] idiotic rip offs for idiots Well now that I see that this list caters to nothing but the most outrageous business ventures, I think I have come up with the appropriate program for the Holidays. THIS IS EXCITING! IT IS NOT A PONZI SCHEME! THERE WILL BE NOTHING BUT PROFITS!! Simply transfer your e-gold to my e-gold account: 107685 A simpler business model cannot be found ANYWHERE!!! That's so clever, I'm in! e-metal(r) payment confirmation: Batch 1393258 Paid To: 107685 (Glencannon Group Ltd.) Amount: 1 US$' worth of Gold Memo: clever From: 241164 (J.P. May) For questions please refer to disclaimer authorized to be issued by our staff attorneys Dewie, Cheatham Howe, LLP, at their webpage found at http://www.DewieCheatham-Howe.com/. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: How's the speed of Omni Pay been with getting $ via wire or checks?
I believe this fellow is not only asking for a referral to a good exchange, but is also seeking info on OmniPay. I would suggest that before he use OmniPay, he go to their webpage, and ask for details of their service to the email listed on their site. This is the "service" email, and I believe you can judge them fairly by how quickly and efficiently they respond to such simple requests for information. On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:33:05 -0600, Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange wrote: Jeff, May I suggest you consider Gaithman's Gold Exchange, Inc? We offer a complete gold exchange service site and can OutExchange your e-gold for you the same business day with a wire initiated to your checking or savings account. We charge a $1.00 USD per $100 e-gold you wish to "cash out" but we PAY for the wire fee out of our commission if you are in the USA.International wires range from $20 USD to $35 USD depending on location of receiving bank. We also strive to provide "exceptional customer service every click of the way" to our clients. If you are interested, please review our website for more information: http://businesses.msn.com/GEGE/ Please look at the page titled "To Sell Your Gold". IF you have any questions, please let us know. Respectfully, Eric Gaither, President Gaithman's Gold Exchange.Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:59 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: How's the speed of Omni Pay been with getting $ via wire or checks? Hi Jeff, I would strongly suggest you use one of the approved Market maker to convert your e-gold to cash and you should have no problems getting your cash within a day or so. Cheers, Sidd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Rocke Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2000 15:31 To: e-gold Discussion Subject: [e-gold-list] How's the speed of Omni Pay been with getting $ via wire or checks? I was wondering if anyone could reply to this post simply to let me know how the service has been with getting their money out of their e-gold accounts using Omni Pay? I have some money coming in at mid month that will be for Christmas and I need to make sure I can get it relatively fast. Please help. Thanks, Jeff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Has anyone heard about an E-gold Debit Card?
A number of companies are providing e-gold debit cards. The advantage is that a debit card is more difficult to trace. Money deposited into your account is obviously easier and more secure. But it is also easier and more secure for the Tax Authorities to get the information. I am offering a card that is not anonymous but is issued through a very confidential bank that requires very little information, and is unlikely to ever divulge info to anyone else. They require only a notarized copy of a drivers license. I would suspect they are not too picky about the validity of the ID. It is a little cheaper to buy, and a little cheaper to operate, although I suspect competition will drive down everybody's prices. Others are offering what they claim are true anonymous cards. And there is a way of doing this in Latvia and a few other countries that seem fairly safe. I am not offering an anonymous card; at least not yet. http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ Good luck. On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:10:30 -0500, Halima wrote: Hello, I've received a lot of emails from egroups talking about a NEW E-gold Debit Card. Is this affiliated with E-gold or what? Here's the website: http://now1card.com/members/mconrad.shtml Would you recommend that people sign up for this card? As far as requesting money from E-gold, can't you just have the money directly deposited into a checking account? That's all. Sincerely, Halima --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 _*_*_*_*_ For an e-gold funded Debit Card: http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: gitgold.net - SCAM
I had the same type of email, and followed up with a question as to why I am being subjected to this, and found it was not them as well. This should be stopped. On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:27:38 -0500, George Matyjewicz wrote: At 01:06 AM 11/30/2000 -0600, Eric Gaither, Gaithman's E-Gold Exchange wrote: Mr. Moore, I would like to second what you so eloquently verbalized: The "piker" who is harassing the Andersons is but mere lint on this earth's large dryer screen. He should be rolled between a large pair of fingers and flicked into the nearest waste basket. As a Market Maker and competitor of the Andersons at GitGold.com, I would like for it to be known I have known the Anderson's for a few months now. I find them to be genuine (and generous) professionals. I have complete faith in their service and manners. The poor excuse for a scammer website is full of holes, inconsistencies, grammatical errors, and complete bad taste. I will vouch for the Andersons and their service. If anyone would like a character reference, there are many of us who will vouch for them. If I may be of assistance, Dave and Jane, please feel free to contact me. Somebody is out to destroy them. I got an atrocious e-mails from David Anderson with every curse word in the book. even though I never even contacted them (I suspect it came as a result of posting to this list). Then when I did ask why I was subjected to that abuse, I got another that was worse (both from David Anderson). If anybody does get a similar e-mail, save it and check the header records. There is such a thing as "Cyber Libel" for which legal action can be taken (I had a published article on that subject).. George --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Finally An E-Gold Debit Card!!!!
Just a gentle reminder, available now, no fancy website, and not anonymous, but simple and fast. http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:00:23 +1100, Michael Moore wrote: Omnipay is owned by e-gold. The only proper debit card which willbe available and suitable is the standardreserve debit card available in a couple of weeks tine. It is cheaper, and more reliable and has the blessing of standardresevre and e-gold behind it Kind regards, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542 - Original Message - From: "debk-mybizness.net" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 5:48 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Finally An E-Gold Debit Card I was informed by a group I am in that this is a scam, However I dont know that much about it yet and did sign up but was told this after I signed up can anyone give some input on this?They told us to stick with Omnipay which is owned by E-Gold. Deb - Original Message - From: "Alex" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:50 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Finally An E-Gold Debit Card I have been looking for an inexpensive Debit Card which took E-Gold for a long, long time! Guess what I have just found one! Check this out folks and join now as an affiliate and get ready to order your card. E-gold Debit Card launching 1st December 2000 ! Check this out Get In Now as an Affiliate for FREE ! Now at Pre-launch but You can sign up TODAY !! Get in quick before the rest of the world. For more info see the 'FAQ' and the 'Uses Benefits' Links on the website. It's fast, easy and safe ! You can add money in the following ways: Money Order or Postal Money Order Cashier's Check Transfer Funds from Credit Card to your Now Card Wire Transfers Western Union E-Gold Pay Pal Money Gram Signup today as an affiliate FREE . Go to: http://Now1Card.com/members/e-gold.shtml --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Web Page for e-gold Debit Card
http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ There seems to be a belief now adays that if you don't have a webpage, you are not a real business. The funny thing is that a few years ago it was the other way around. So in response to this vitally important need, I prepared a webpage for Genucap Resources e-gold debit card. It is a very simple program. Everything you need to start is on an extremely simple webpage. Good luck. http://www.glencannongroup.com/genucap/ Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold debit card
I have one available right now. $250.00 and up. Please feel free to ask for more details. On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:02:02 +1100, Michael Moore wrote: exorbidant more likely. Kind regards, Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542 - Original Message - From: "Graham Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 6:50 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] e-gold debit card Guys, OPC are offering an e-gold linked debit card... details here! http://offshore-privacy.com/vip-plus.html However, it's a bit pricey at USD $750 George! When's the Standard Reserve debit card available? Cheers! Graham Kelly www.GoldNow.St V/Mail Fax; +1(312)777-4270 www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice
And I bet your dad is bigger than my dad too. Again, Best of luck. On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:37:56 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote: !!! Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts, deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com +)) -Original Message- From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full of shit. I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT. Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in this, and I would put it together. This is waht I have done. I don't appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for themselves. I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it is a high security vehicle. If that is what you want and need, contact me and I'll give you some advice. I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts as most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe Excuse me, this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction. If you can start calling people names, then so can I. I think, though, if people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a big difference. We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with a functional database, etc. Yours accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the jurisdiction in which they operate. But the fact is that this asshole has chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine with false and misleading comments. I will address these pissant comments below: I will answer your points below. I have not attacked anything, just pointed out the facts. Sorry if this hurts your sales. And since our card is issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem? YOU ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT BELONGS TO YOU! On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote: I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed out what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a couple with his. 1. His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address in Texas to mail the applications. Obviusly, then, the address in Belize is a maildrop. What this means is that when you send yoru documents to him, they are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want. Your identity is not safe! The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston. But no doubt, Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you are on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time. It's is obvious that this is a one man show. We, on the other hand, are an established company with offices, employees, etc... there is a possibility of interception. I never claimed this was some kind of safe way to do "money launderying." If that is what you need you might Who said anything about money laundering? That is a viscius ad homanim argument and a logical fallacy. People can send orders to a place where we really are. Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your word. And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or just some guy working in his basement in Houston. want to go elsewhere. What I am providing is a convenient way of giving a service. Take it or leave it. Yeah, real conventient. And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME! How convenient for you! 2. Same for the bank. If the bank they are ever using rolls over and rats you out, then you are screwed. The only way to prevent this is if the bnak does not know who you are. This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there. This bank in particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound jurisdiction. I have been doing business with it and others in this jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote this email. that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank doens't know who you are, then they CAN'T RAT ON YOU, CAN THEY? Even if the jurisdiction changes it's laws under OECD or FATF preassure. So, yo
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Funded Debit Cards Available
Your status as an "employee" will only apply to the bank, which will give the company the ability to offer these cards at a rather significant discount. There will be no contract, and thus no status as an employee. The card's are designated as "employee" cards to the effect that they will have the name of the company on them. That is all. On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:39:04 -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by: "The holders of the cards will be treated as "employees" of Genucap Resources, LLC, a Nevis Limited Liability Company." What are the legal implications of being that company's employee? I wish to get a card, but am unwilling to give up my sovereign rights to do so... what is the employment contract with this company? What are the laws governing employees of a company incorporated in that jurisdiction? -- All information + transactions non negotiable and private between the parties. All Rights Reserved + Copyright 2000 Angela Kahealani. URL:http://www.kahealani.com Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Question
Does anyone want to answer this one? I believe the correct answer is no to the extent that e-gold does not provide such services. To the extent that I am providing such a service, then it is possible to get debit card that can be funded by e-gold. On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:46:34 EST, David Díaz wrote: Does E-gold have a debit Card? Sincerely, David Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 505262 Chelsea,MA 02150-5262 (617) 331-9648 Want to be able to get your money to and from anywhere in the WORLD!?? Try a FREE account: http://www.e-gold.com/e-gold.asp?cid=132658 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Debit Card?
If you need me to post the instructions again, please let me know. On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:41:29 -0500, Pam Campbell wrote: I've heard that you can now get a debit card for e-gold.Is this true and if so,where does one go to get one? Thanks Pam --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: egold and debit cards
That is great to hear. However, I personally have my doubts about numbered accounts anymore. There needs to be a name somewhere, and what that name is is of course the question. A good numbered account is hard to find in this world. A confidential account with a good back is a little easier. And even that is difficult. On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:41:40 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote: !!! Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and we now have web based banking, opening of accounts, deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com +)) -Original Message- WE have already been offering totally anonymous debit cards which you can fund through us using egold if you choose. OUrs costs alittle more but these are totally nubmered acocunts. YOu can also fund these cards yourself thorugh wire transfer, but by passing the funds through us or thorugh a withdrawal form our offshore online savings acocunts, you can move the money in total secrecy. You can make deposits and withdrawals to and from your online savings using egold, and is the cheapest and fastest way to make deposits and withdrawals from your account. chuch us out at: http://www.offshorearnings.com John From: e-gold Discussion digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gold Based Debit Card From: David Hillary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:34:02 +1100 X-Message-Number: 1 Certianally, let me know about this service. I don't quite understand what exactly it is tho: is it cash debit cards from a single cash bank account, and you then, as a service, fund each transaction by a spend from the card holders e-gold account into your or the company e-gold account, then at the end of each day/week whatever, fund the total cash debits from a single exchange of e-gold for cash? If its the latter I am keen to know more about it! David Hillary "Glencannon Group Ltd." wrote: I have been thinking of setting up an E-Gold based Debit Card Service. That is you would be able to fund your debit with deposits into a companies e-gold account, who would then turn around and fund debit card with cash. The reason I am thinking of doing this is that is would be cheaper for me to do one wire for the equivalent of 10 or more transfers, than it would be for you to do one wire transfer to an account. Everyone could do this on their own, but it would also involve a huge loss of confidentiality and a great loss. I have a bank that will issue virtually unlimited debit cards off of my basic commercial acount. These cards are considered "employee" accounts and are easy to set up. If there is any interest, please let me know so that I can explore further. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Based Debit Card
No I think it is even better than that. It is a separate "CARD ACCOUNT" You send me e-gold, I convert to cash, then I fund your card account, which is yours to do with as you like. On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:34:02 +1100, David Hillary wrote: Certianally, let me know about this service. I don't quite understand what exactly it is tho: is it cash debit cards from a single cash bank account, and you then, as a service, fund each transaction by a spend from the card holders e-gold account into your or the company e-gold account, then at the end of each day/week whatever, fund the total cash debits from a single exchange of e-gold for cash? If its the latter I am keen to know more about it! David Hillary "Glencannon Group Ltd." wrote: I have been thinking of setting up an E-Gold based Debit Card Service. That is you would be able to fund your debit with deposits into a companies e-gold account, who would then turn around and fund debit card with cash. The reason I am thinking of doing this is that is would be cheaper for me to do one wire for the equivalent of 10 or more transfers, than it would be for you to do one wire transfer to an account. Everyone could do this on their own, but it would also involve a huge loss of confidentiality and a great loss. I have a bank that will issue virtually unlimited debit cards off of my basic commercial acount. These cards are considered "employee" accounts and are easy to set up. If there is any interest, please let me know so that I can explore further. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Warning on scam using e-gold
I have not read the other messages, but I think this comment is very wrong headed. Offshore banks are just banks in "other jurisdictions". I live in Belize, and banks here are not offshore for me. There are many advantages to using offshore banks which include confidentiality, greater professionalism (sometimes), better investment results, and if properly structured tax savings. If this comment is linked to E-gold being perceived as an "offshore bank" or some similar entity, well all I have to say is way to go. I have had a profound distrust of the e-gold specifically because it was so physically linked to the US. On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:31:41 -0500, Craig Haynie wrote: Lots of people believe that many irreputable people use "offshore" banks but, this doesn't keep those banks from being VERY popular with other people. Perhaps, but do you really want e-gold to be seen the same way that people see offshore banks? I don't. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Warning on scam using e-gold
I have not read the other messages, but I think this comment is very wrong headed. Offshore banks are just banks in "other jurisdictions". I live in Belize, and banks here are not offshore for me. There are many advantages to using offshore banks which include confidentiality, greater professionalism (sometimes), better investment results, and if properly structured tax savings. If this comment is linked to E-gold being perceived as an "offshore bank" or some similar entity, well all I have to say is way to go. I have had a profound distrust of the e-gold specifically because it was so physically linked to the US. On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:31:41 -0500, Craig Haynie wrote: Lots of people believe that many irreputable people use "offshore" banks but, this doesn't keep those banks from being VERY popular with other people. Perhaps, but do you really want e-gold to be seen the same way that people see offshore banks? I don't. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Books (AND EVERYTHING ELSE) via e-gold
I am curious to see if Amazon ships electronics, particularly computers and such overseas. (I really don't even know if Amazon carries those things I should checck.) I have had problems with some clients who are "unofficial" distributors of Dell and others. These US companies initially stopped shipping overseas to stop these buyers from buying, but then the buyers simply used Houston or Miami mail drops. The next step was to stop accepted "offshore" based credit cards as payment. I believe the basis for this refusal is twofold: 1. they don't like unauthorized dealers, and 2. service problems can be a nightmare. This has proved to be a real irritant as US based credit cards are hard to come by, and expensive even if they can be issued. I have come up with a way of getting a US credit card without haveing to place $100,000.00 on deposit with a broker. At least it works some of the time. This is why I am curious if Amazon does the same thing. I can't see why they would since they don't perceive offshore bulk buyers as competitors, but there would still be the service issue on products that have a high rate of returns. Anyone who could let me know would be appreciated. On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:54:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob wrote: *Finally* there's a way to buy books using metal. Yah it's more expensive but that won't last. I've been offering books, pamphlets and tapes via e-gold for over a year. I don't have as many titles as Amazon (yet). http://www.SVPvril.com And excellent books they are Dale! More excitement at BANANAGOLD - people have been buying video games as well, and all sorts of knick knacks I guess you can buy *ANYTHING* amazon has on sale (electronics and so on) ... I didnt even realize that. (I'm not sure if you can ship electronics and stuff overseas --- but certainly BANANA has had many overseas book orders .) http://www.bananagold.com http://www.bananagold.com http://www.bananagold.com !! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Books (AND EVERYTHING ELSE) via e-gold
The problem is not the credit card processor. The problem is the merchants. Some merchants don't want foreign "unauthorized" distributors dealing in their products, particularly products like computers where there is a high level of service involved. On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:45:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Glencannon Group Ltd." wrote: The next step was to stop accepted "offshore" based credit cards as payment. My credit card processor is in Toronto. We have been accepting orders from and shipping overseas to many countries for several years. No problem at all. http://www.SVPvril.com -- Regards, Dale Pond Delta Spectrum Research http://www.SVPvril.com Sympathetic Vibratory Physics Sacred Science - Sacred Life SVP Discussion Forum: http://www.egroups.com/list/svpvril/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] For sale: www.hollywood-pool.com
Dear folks: Awhile back I was goofing around with e-gold, and few silly ideas, and one of them was www.hollywood-pool.com Actually, I still think it is a good idea, but I lack the time, technical skills, and general motivation to pursue it. I am offering for sale not just the URL, but also the business concept, which I think has some merit. All offers will be considered. The business idea was to create a game similar to paramutual horse race betting, but instead of horses in a two minute races, we would use movies and weekly stats of sales. That is the basis of the site. What needs to be done is come up with a more sophisticated interface so that give immediate results when bets are placed, marketing, perhaps come up with similar movie related games and content (ie. oscar winner pool, the divorce game - who will get divorced first, etc.), and provide a safer legal structure to operate the site when it goes public. At least that is what I think. As I said any offers will be considered, and I am open to suggestions. Glencannon Group Ltd. http://www.glencannongroup.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a more secure email) fax: 419-710-4339 ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
