Re: [e-users] E 25.4 High Definition Scaling.
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] E 25.4 High Definition Scaling. Message-ID : <223e4f03d16b7eb8c89be1e5f6bd25dace7607da.ca...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 16:34:31 -0700 [PK] == Paul Kelly has written: [...] PK> I have a computer that uses a Samsung TV as it's monitor. And I cannot PK> get a decent sized font or resize for it to be readable from my chair, PK> about 12 feet away. I have spent the better part of the last three days PK> trying to and have failed. The adjustments requested by the settings PK> seem to be being ignored and the same fonts remain. Firefox resized PK> easily and is the only thing that has/or I have checked. PK> It is a show stopper, and the only thing that this machine isn't doing PK> correctly. It is my Backup, email, internal DNS, Music workstation and PK> Stream watcher. [...] How did you set up your desktop font? Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Hassabis says that no one really knows for sure that AI will become a major danger. But he is certain that if progress continues at its current pace, there isn’t much time to develop safeguards. "I can see the kinds of things we're building into the Gemini series right, and we have no reason to believe that they won't work," he says." -- "Google DeepMind's CEO Says Its Next Algorithm Will Eclipse ChatGPT" -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] EFL compile problem
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] EFL compile problem Message-ID : Date & Time: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 10:35:38 +0200 [VT] == Vincent Torri has written: [...] VT>> - c_args : [package_c_args, '-DEINA_BUILD', iconv_c_args], VT>> + c_args : eina_c_args VT> see my last msg : missing comma at the end above (I did the diff VT> before saving file...) It was fixed by a patch of patch. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] EFL compile problem
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Date & Time: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:24:51 +0200
[VT] == Vincent Torri has written:
VT> try that patch
VT> diff --git a/src/lib/eina/meson.build b/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> index 4ab37d2112..c50a06b59b 100644
VT> --- a/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> +++ b/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> @@ -371,17 +371,17 @@ eina_ext_deps += [iconv]
VT> execinfo = cc.find_library('execinfo', required: false)
VT> eina_ext_deps += [execinfo]
[...]
VT> - c_args : [package_c_args, '-DEINA_BUILD', iconv_c_args],
VT> + c_args : eina_c_args
VT> include_directories : config_dir,
VT> dependencies: eina_ext_deps + [eina_deps, evil],
VT> install: true,
Sorry, but it's to no avail.
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the Gemini series right, and we have no reason to believe that
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Re: [e-users] EFL compile problem
Hello,
Sorry, forgot to attach the error message.
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Message-ID : <87v82mqyhu.wl-nom...@lake.dti.ne.jp>
Date & Time:
[MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written:
MN> Hello,
MN> In the Message;
MN> Subject: Re: [e-users] EFL compile problem
MN> Message-ID :
MN> Date & Time: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:24:51 +0200
MN> [VT] == Vincent Torri has written:
VT> try that patch
VT> diff --git a/src/lib/eina/meson.build b/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> index 4ab37d2112..c50a06b59b 100644
VT> --- a/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> +++ b/src/lib/eina/meson.build
VT> @@ -371,17 +371,17 @@ eina_ext_deps += [iconv]
VT> execinfo = cc.find_library('execinfo', required: false)
VT> eina_ext_deps += [execinfo]
MN> [...]
VT> - c_args : [package_c_args, '-DEINA_BUILD', iconv_c_args],
VT> + c_args : eina_c_args
VT> include_directories : config_dir,
VT> dependencies: eina_ext_deps + [eina_deps, evil],
VT> install: true,
MN> Sorry, but it's to no avail.
[...]
Run-time dependency lua5.1 found: YES 5.1.5
src/lib/eina/meson.build:385:2: ERROR: Expecting rparen got id.
include_directories : config_dir,
^
For a block that started at 383,18
eina_lib = library('eina', eina_src,
[...] ^
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Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1 Message-ID : <2fea3c38-5cab-11ed-3e34-9bc1f0d5e...@woelders.dk> Date & Time: Thu, 4 May 2023 04:51:30 +0200 [KW] == Kim Woelders has written: KW> On 2023-05-04 03:22, Masaru Nomiya wrote: KW> > Hello, [...] MN>> If there is a --without-y4m switch, isn't it normal to assume that MN>> --with-y4m is embedded by default? KW> Yes, by default, if the requirements are satisfied (liby4m.pc and KW> libyuv.pc are found) the y4m.so module should be built. KW> --without-y4m should disable this and --with-y4m should cause KW> configure to fail if the requirements are not satisfied. Now I understand. I mistakenly thought that liby4m was mandatory. Sorry for bothering you. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiyamail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1 Message-ID : Date & Time: Wed, 3 May 2023 18:05:55 +0200 [KW] == Kim Woelders has written: [...] MN> > As for liby4m, you think that the --with-y4m switch is supposed to be MN> > added to the configure script by default, but this is not the case. KW> Hmm.. Looks good to me. Running "configure --help" does list the KW> --without-y4m option. If there is a --without-y4m switch, isn't it normal to assume that --with-y4m is embedded by default? In the case of imlib2-1.11.1, I can compile without --with-y4m switch, but liby4m is not embedded. To incorporate liby4m, I have to run configure script with --with-y4m switch. KW> Maybe you have a git checkout and haven't re-run autogen.sh after KW> pull? No, I downloaded imlib2-1.11.1.tar.xz accroding to your annouce. Regards, --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1 Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 2 May 2023 16:53:44 +0200 [KW] == Kim Woelders has written: KW> The one I used for testing is here: https://github.com/matthewharvey/liby4m. KW> I'm not aware of alternatives. As for liby4m, you think that the --with-y4m switch is supposed to be added to the configure script by default, but this is not the case. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛"No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] imlib2-1.11.1 Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 2 May 2023 14:07:05 +0200 [CS] == Carla Sensa has written: CS> Hello Kim, CS> Where do I find the y4m library? Just requires x265's header files and libraries. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work Message-ID : <20230312230907.c9f719828fc835ca67c05...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:09:07 + [CE] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CE> On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 19:36:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > I can only assume that there must be a problem with the build of MN> > enlightenment (_ _? I am not saying that there is a problem with enlightenmetn, I am just speculating that there is a problem with the enlightenment in her environment. [...] CE> like. but both of these would be bugs on the client side. Thanks for helping me understand. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, 野宮です． In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <18d4e5ec-0b7e-69d7-5721-6338ff9ad...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 14:22:58 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 11/03/23 alle 11:20: MN>> What the hell is that supposed to mean? MM> Sorry, my bad, the package that asked to remove pulseaudio was MM> pipewire-media-session. pipewire-alsa is now installed as you can see: MM> max@diamante:~$ apt list --installed | grep pipewire MM> gstreamer1.0-pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-0/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-common/testing,testing,now 0.3.65-3 all [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-modules/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-alsa/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato] MM> pipewire-audio/testing,testing,now 0.3.65-3 all [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-bin/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-libcamera/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato] MM> pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-3 amd64 [installato, automatico] My bad? In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:01:18 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM> Oh, you're asking for installed packages then, not installed files. Here they MM> are: MM> apt list --installed | grep pipewire MM> gstreamer1.0-pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-0/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-common/testing,testing,now 0.3.65-2 all [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-modules/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-bin/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> apt list --installed | grep pulse MM> gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio/testing,now 1.22.0-dmo2 amd64 [installato] MM> libcanberra-pulse/testing,now 0.30-10 amd64 [installato] MM> libpulse-dev/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] MM> libpulse-mainloop-glib0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, MM> automatico] MM> libpulse0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpulsedsp/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] MM> pulseaudio-utils/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pulseaudio/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] I can't take you anymore. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work Message-ID : <20230307054350.c86a5fea5a95729ab0bf6...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 05:43:50 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 21:34:18 + (UTC) Anna Cassar CH> said: CH> e sets xsettings to tell apps that read these to uses some CH> specific fonts, theme, dpi etc. - i've seen qt mess up badly when CH> theme is set AND the qt style plugins are not there. it doesn't CH> fall back gracefully. not qt5 style. qt5 style plugins. the CH> plugins is the important bit - the thing that provides some CH> plugin for qt to properly do this. CH> 5:32AM ~ > pacman -Q | grep styleplugins CH> qt5-styleplugins 5.0.0.20170311-35 CH> all i see is mixx segfault. probably because it can't connect to CH> jack. not very graceful. it does it even in a wm-less xephyr. CH> e also sets 2 env vars: CH> QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2 CH> QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2 CH> this tells qt to use the gtk2 style to do theme stuff. you could CH> unset these in a terminal and run mixxx from there and see. CH> it might mess up if it doesn't like the dpi set - but then that'd CH> be it's problem for not rendering at that dpi to scale correctly CH> - regardless of the value. either ignore the dpi or use it as CH> given. don't use it then fall over if the value isn't one you like. I think everything written here is out of line. I mean, I have no problems with mixxx look and feel on any WM on my PC, not just enlightenment, but twm, Plasma5, Gnome, e16, and icewm. I can only assume that there must be a problem with the build of enlightenment (_ _? --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, Sorry for so late reply. Late nights are hard on us old people. It takes us old people a long time to recover. Anyway, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <87587bff-f092-b670-d00d-22f28f077...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 18:53:57 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MN>> The fact that you can't install pipewire-alsa (which is created as a MN>> module that performs an important function), or that you don't have to MN>> include libcamera, are just a few examples of this. MM> pipewire-alsa is installed, it has always been. What i can't install is MM> pipewire-media-session. I can't understand. You wrote; In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <9806f554-6796-465b-7f01-22d974a7d...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:19:30 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MN>> First, the following packages are missing; MN>> MN>> pipewire-alsa MM> Trying to install this it asks to remove the whole pulseaudio MM> installation. [...] What the hell is that supposed to mean? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 13:23:17 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MN> > Please ｇet in the habit of asking Google. MM> Do you think i'm not aware of this? I search for solutions when i have a MM> problem, but some warning messages are not a problem for me. Also it involves MM> enabling features that are considered experimental, so i could get rid of some MM> warning but obtain other warnings in exchange for other related MM> things. Not the best bet. As I have mentioned before, Debian is trying to incorporate the p[ipewire system only as a sound server in a Gnome-specific way, which makes the pipewire system, as I have often said, a very special structure not found anywhere else. The fact that you can't install pipewire-alsa (which is created as a module that performs an important function), or that you don't have to include libcamera, are just a few examples of this. It is out of line to say that there is a problem in trying to use that particular pipewire system for enlightenment, isn't it? Enlightenment itself does not incorporate the pipewire system at all, and yet I believe that it is in the realm of self-responsibility for us, the users, to dare to use the pipewire system. Regards & Good Night --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <12adad7f-a4fd-d4ff-87ab-54d763777...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:51:52 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 05/03/23 alle 12:43: [...] MN> > In your case, the udev rule needs two parts: disable device and MN> > enable device, but your rule only has an enable rule, it seems. MM> Sorry, i didn't understand. My rule removes authorization for the internal MM> device, hence it's disabled and indeed lsusb doesn't report it in MM> the list. Why should i explicitly enable the dongle? It's is MM> already enabled, i just have to plug it in. Be that as it may, this will give you a solution for your issue; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/411 Please ｇet in the habit of asking Google. Sorry all, I've gone too deep. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiyamail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "It should never be said that it is OK to ignore the theoretical as long as it becomes a tool." -- T. Mori (The original is in Japanese) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello,
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Message-ID : <958cbd7a-d784-abba-d454-7aa383e8d...@gmail.com>
Date & Time: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 12:04:45 +0100
[MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written:
[...]
MN>> Tell me the product name and manufacturer of the bluetooth device you
MN>> are using.
MM> It's a dongle, lsusb identifies it as follows:
MM> ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
MM> The laptop has an internal usb device that some time ago stopped
MM> working, so i had to buy this dongle and also had to deactivate
MM> the internal chip via this udev rule:
MM> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="04ca", ATTRS{idProduct}=="3018",
MM> ATTR{authorized}="0"
[...]
In your case, the udev rule needs two parts: disable device and
enable device, but your rule only has an enable rule, it seems.
Regards & Good Nighht
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <3fd77105-241a-06a9-be66-a79975f45...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:47:52 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM>> I suspect there is no pipewire group? MM> The pipewire group exists but my user was not added to it. Now it MM> is and this is the result: OK. [...] MM> mar 05 10:40:00 diamante wireplumber[2119]: Trying to use legacy MM> bluez5 API for LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please MM> upgrade bluez5. [...] Tell me the product name and manufacturer of the bluetooth device you are using. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] Having issues getting mixxx to work Message-ID : <1432823192.6137467.1677938229...@mail.yahoo.com> Date & Time: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 13:57:09 + (UTC) [AC] == Anna Cassar via enlightenment-users has written: AC> Hi I wanted to get Mixxx the dj program to run under AC> enlightenment. I got it working under kde and xterm but when I AC> try to run it here i get back boxes (pictures attached) and the AC> program itself seems to have many text boxes and other things AC> missing. I've made sure enllightenment and efl are up to date and AC> had a quick look online to see if anyone else has had this issue AC> with other programs but no luck yet. Also not sure if its related AC> but sometimes when i right click to copy text or drop down the AC> menu i get a black box instead of the text. For this i move the AC> mouse away and do it again is usually works but it could be the AC> same issue, i'm unsure. Is there something i haven't built? Mixxx AC> was first built by emerge but then i tried building from source, AC> both have the same issue. I would love to use this under AC> enlightenment just not sure where to look next. Here, file attachments are prohibited and attached images are deleted from the mail. However, it would be better to upload the image to Google Drive and provide a link to it here. Please indicate which distro and mixxx version you are using. Here is an image of mixxx 2.3.3 on Tumbleweed; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ysCbh9MOj7CMz_p7SVRclYOTU5Y7B1-U/view?usp=share_link Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <6c1ec085-880b-b80c-7f13-6ea07be97...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 10:31:49 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM> 2. rtkit is already installed, i've added my user to the rtkit MM> group but nothing changed $ systemctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber to see the effect. MM> 3. there is nothing on my system under /usr/share/doc/pipewire expect usual MM> files: NEWS.gz, README.Debian.gz, changelog.debian.gz and copyright. Without the MM> conf file that should be in examples i guess it would be unuseful to create MM> /etc/pipewire/media-session.d directory, wouldn't it? Yes, create it. I don't know about debian, but in my case, there exist files in the folder /usr/share/pipewire/media-session. If it's the same as this, execute follows; $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio /etc/pipewire/media-session.d $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/with-alsa /etc/pipewire/media-session.d $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/buez-monitor.conf /etc/pipewire/media-session.d If the different place, you can find them; # cd /usr/share # find ./ -name with-pulseaudio -o -name with-alsa -o -name bluez-monitor.conf Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 09:58:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana has written: > Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 04/03/23 alle 09:01: [...] > > If you did, then execute this; > > > > $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/bluez-monitor.conf > > /etc/pipewire > I don't have such file nor any of the files you did mention, i guess it is > because i didn't install pipewire-media-session. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <87pm9uav3d.wl-nom...@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:27:18 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: [...] MN> Your problem seems to be related to bluetooh. MN> Before you do that, you should do the following as preparation; MN> 1. if possible, uninstall the wireplumber and install MN> pipewire-media-session MN> The reason is that pipewire-media-session is obviously better MN> sounding than wireplumber. MN> 2. install rtkit, then create a rtkit group, and add your own users. MN> 3. MN> $ sudo cp /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/alsa.conf.d/99-pipewire-default.conf /etc/alsa/conf.d/ MN> 4. $ sudo touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-alsa MN> You might need to do this beforehand; MN> MN> $ sudo mkdir /etc/pipewire/media-session.d MN> Next is the curse for bluetooth. MN> $ sudo touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio Can't you take it that this sentence is written based on both the case where wireplumber must be used as is and the case where it can be replaced by pipewire-media-session? Refards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <1d1792cb-0875-81a0-f750-951172813...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 07:48:56 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Update: looks like my problem is not actually mixer not recognizing pipewire, MM> it's just that the mixer icon is not working after E starts. [...] MM> video and i can adjust its volume as i like. MM> Reloading mixer module makes all working again as expected. As I keep saying, your problem is not one of enlightenment, but of pipewire. If you ask Google, she will show you a number of reports of pipewire problems involving bluetooth. I'm having a hard time supporting you because you haven't shown me how well you've done what I've shown you. I told you to create a "with-pulseaudio" file, did you create the file? If you did, then execute this; $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/bluez-monitor.conf /etc/pipewire reboot to see if it works. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛"Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <662d56aa-25c5-8010-c56f-1dbea899a...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 13:54:41 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 03/03/23 alle 13:36: [...] MM> > The messages about bluetooth (which are warnings for now) are not from MM> > enlightenment, but from pipewire. MM> > MM> > I am using bluez-5.66 on my Tumbleweed, so I don't get these messages. MM> Same here, current bluez version on bookworm: MM> dpkg -l | grep bluez MM> ii bluez5.66-1 amd64 MM> Bluetooth tools and daemons MM> ii bluez-obexd 5.66-1 amd64 MM> bluez obex daemon Is it? Is this a bug in pipewire 0.3.65? I am now using pipewire 0.3.66 git head. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <10facaf6-9712-a1d1-51f2-581c253b4...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 18:16:25 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 03/03/23 alle 03:21: [...] MM> > The last means is to put the following settings in .xinitrc. MM> AFAIK xinit is not used if Xorg is executed via a display MM> manager. I don't have any xinitrc file in my homedir. For system MM> wide configuration there is /etc/gdm3/Init/Default and i don't MM> know if an user configuratione file can be used and what should MM> be its name. It seems that gdm uses Xsession. Do you have files like .profile, .bash_profile, or .bashrc in your home directory? If not, create a .bash_profile and write settings in it. FYI. This is yours; In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <52a2c549-be5d-7ed4-3934-4f9439b8f...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 11:49:28 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [..] MN> > 1. $ pactl info MM> Stringa server: /run/user/1000/pulse/native MM> Versione protocollo libreria: 35 MM> Versione protocollo server: 35 MM> Locale: sì MM> Indice client: 60 MM> Dimensione tile: 65472 MM> Nome utente: max MM> Nome host: diamante MM> Nome server: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.65) MM> Versione server: 15.0.0 MM> Specifica di campionamento predefinita: float32le ch 2 48000 Hz MM> Mappa del canale predefinita: front-left,front-right MM> Sink predefinito: alsa_output.pci-_00_1f.3.analog-stereo MM> Sorgente predefinita: alsa_input.pci-_00_1f.3.analog-stereo MM> Cookie: 56ec:5bba As you can see, in your case, the sampling rate is 48Khz, which sounds better than the CD with a sampling rate of 44.1Khz. This is my case. $> pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 58 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: masaru Host Name: localhost Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.66) Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 352800Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_output.usb-D_M_Holdings_Inc._HD-AMP1-00.analog-stereo.monitor Cookie: 092b:2b50 The sampling rate in my case is 352.8KHz, and I can also play back high-resolution sound. Even if it is not a high-resolution sound, it gives me a sound that makes me think that this is the sound of CD. This requires a USB DAC, but it also requires some configuration. For it, $ sudo cp /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire.conf /etc/pipewire and then edit the /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf like this; [...] ## Properties for the DSP configuration. default.clock.rate = 352800 default.clock.allowed-rates = [ 44100 48000 96000 192000 352800 384000 ] default.clock.quantum = 1024 default.clock.min-quantum = 16 default.clock.max-quantum = 2048 default.clock.quantum-limit = 8192 default.video.width = 800 default.video.height = 600 [...] I use mpd and Cantata to listen to musics and am very happy with them. I hope this will be helpful. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, I know you're aware of this, but it bothers me so I'm writing . In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <3d8fb46b-bb4f-3e70-0e27-3d6e41510...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:34:07 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM> feb 26 11:15:36 diamante wireplumber[2273]: BlueZ Battery Provider is not MM> available, won't retry to register it. Make sure you are running BlueZ 5.56+ > MM> feb 26 19:37:37 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 26 22:09:04 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 26 22:09:43 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Failed to register battery MM> provider. Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod MM> feb 26 22:09:43 diamante wireplumber[2273]: BlueZ Battery Provider is not MM> available, won't retry to register it. Make sure you are running BlueZ 5.56+ > MM> feb 26 23:56:19 diamante wireplumber[2273]: sco-sink: write failure: -104 MM> (Connessione interrotta dal corrispondente) MM> feb 27 10:16:57 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 27 17:21:52 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 28 08:17:26 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 28 10:12:57 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. The messages about bluetooth (which are warnings for now) are not from enlightenment, but from pipewire. I am using bluez-5.66 on my Tumbleweed, so I don't get these messages. You should keep this in mind. Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <01fa95dd-b23a-e5c0-0627-0293648c8...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 13:29:44 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 02/03/23 alle 07:30: [...] MN> > I mean, this is a trick to prevent pipewire from not recognizing MN> > bluetooth devices. MM> Thanks but pipewire DOES already recognize my bluetooth MM> headphones with no problems. Not everyone. However, I do not know under what conditions a bluetooth device will be unrecognized. First and foremost, we users should be aware that pipewire itself is still under development, as the version number below 1 indicates. MM> Anyway i will not install pipewire-media-session because removing MM> wireplumber also kicks out a bunch of Gnome things and i don't MM> want to mess up my installation to solve something which i can MM> live with. Debian seems to be working on a GNOME-based pipewire. I have no idea how they are going to structure it, but rtkit must be installed and configured. MM> Reloading mixer is not an annoying task as i don't reboot MM> frequently my laptop. The last means is to put the following settings in .xinitrc. systemctl --user daemon-reload systemctl --user restart pipewire pipewwire-pulse wireplumber If you still have problems, check the DM's log. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, Sorry for my bad. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <87pm9uav3d.wl-nom...@lake.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 20:27:18 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: [...] MN> Next is the curse for bluetooth. MN> $ sudo touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio Next is the curse for bluetooth. | x Next is breaking the curse for bluetooth. I mean, this is a trick to prevent pipewire from not recognizing bluetooth devices. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+e @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <3d8fb46b-bb4f-3e70-0e27-3d6e41510...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:34:07 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 27/02/23 alle 06:27: [...] MM>>> I don't have any problem with bluetooth. Now i installed MM>>> pipewire-alsa, removed pulseaudio included its bluetooth module MM>>> and still mixer doesn't detect the audio server at startup. MM>>> Reloading it makes it see it. The only bluetooth module MM>>> installed is now libspa-0.2-bluetooth and my bluetooth headphones MM>>> are still working. MN>> Ok. MN>> MN>> Please return the pipewire-related status to the status indicated by MN>> debian. MN>> MN>> Then reboot, and immediately after boot, do the following and show the MN>> results; MN>> MN>> $ systedmctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber MM> Following is the output and it's pretty much the same both before reboot and MM> after reboot but before starting E; i was under Gdm, which correctly displays MM> volume control. After starting E the mixer still doesn't display MM> any audio card until i reload it. MM> ● pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service MM>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; enabled; preset: MM> enabled) MM>Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-26 09:48:46 CET; 2 days ago MM> TriggeredBy: ● pipewire.socket MM> Main PID: 2271 (pipewire) MM> Tasks: 2 (limit: 14125) MM>Memory: 9.8M MM> CPU: 2min 18.812s MM>CGroup: MM> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pipewire.service MM>└─2271 /usr/bin/pipewire MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante systemd[2240]: Started pipewire.service - PipeWire MM> Multimedia Service. MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante pipewire[2271]: mod.rt: Can't find MM> org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal running? MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante pipewire[2271]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal MM> ● pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio MM>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service; enabled; MM> preset: enabled) MM>Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-26 09:48:46 CET; 2 days ago MM> TriggeredBy: ● pipewire-pulse.socket MM> Main PID: 2276 (pipewire-pulse) MM> Tasks: 2 (limit: 14125) MM>Memory: 46.3M MM> CPU: 5min 49.986s MM>CGroup: MM> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/pipewire-pulse.service MM>└─2276 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante systemd[2240]: Started pipewire-pulse.service - MM> PipeWire PulseAudio. MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante pipewire-pulse[2276]: mod.rt: Can't find MM> org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop. Is xdg-desktop-portal running? MM> feb 26 09:48:46 diamante pipewire-pulse[2276]: mod.rt: found MM> session bus but no portal MM> ● wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager MM>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; MM> preset: enabled) MM>Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-26 09:48:46 CET; 2 days ago MM> Main PID: 2273 (wireplumber) MM> Tasks: 4 (limit: 14125) MM>Memory: 11.2M MM> CPU: 4min 17.267s MM>CGroup: MM> /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/wireplumber.service MM>└─2273 /usr/bin/wireplumber MM> feb 26 11:15:36 diamante wireplumber[2273]: BlueZ Battery Provider is not MM> available, won't retry to register it. Make sure you are running BlueZ 5.56+ > MM> feb 26 19:37:37 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 26 22:09:04 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 26 22:09:43 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Failed to register battery MM> provider. Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod MM> feb 26 22:09:43 diamante wireplumber[2273]: BlueZ Battery Provider is not MM> available, won't retry to register it. Make sure you are running BlueZ 5.56+ > MM> feb 26 23:56:19 diamante wireplumber[2273]: sco-sink: write failure: -104 MM> (Connessione interrotta dal corrispondente) MM> feb 27 10:16:57 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for MM> LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. MM> feb 27 17:21:52 diamante wireplumber[2273]: Trying to use legacy
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, Sorry for late reply. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <81277905-ce55-d1c1-92ee-d626e8d9b...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 11:25:26 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 26/02/23 alle 10:09: [...] MN> > I mean, I'm thinking that your problem is related to bluetoooth, but I MN> > can't figure out anything from your information. MM> I don't have any problem with bluetooth. Now i installed MM> pipewire-alsa, removed pulseaudio included its bluetooth module MM> and still mixer doesn't detect the audio server at startup. MM> Reloading it makes it see it. The only bluetooth module MM> installed is now libspa-0.2-bluetooth and my bluetooth headphones MM> are still working. Ok. Please return the pipewire-related status to the status indicated by debian. Then reboot, and immediately after boot, do the following and show the results; $ systedmctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <9806f554-6796-465b-7f01-22d974a7d...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:19:30 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM> > Your package configuration is incorrect. MM> > MM> > First, the following packages are missing; MM> > MM> > pipewire-alsa MM> Trying to install this it asks to remove the whole pulseaudio installation. MM> > pipewire-module-x11 MM> Not present in debian [...] MM> > MM> > What did you decide the configuration based on? MM> I've never decided to install pipewire explicitly, it must have MM> been pulled in by some other package installation. I see. [...] MM> > Under the pipewire, at minimum, you will need to install the MM> > libspa-0.2-plugins package, remove the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth MM> > package, and then either reboot your computer or restart the PipeWire MM> > services, otherwise device connections will fail with "Protocol not MM> > available". MM> libspa-0.2-plugins is not in the list of available debian packages. Look here MM> for available pipewire packages in bookworm: MM> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bookworm=pipewire I had heard rumors that debian's packages were peculiar, but I am surprised to see how peculiar they are. I have no idea why they use the pulseaudio's bluetooth module instead of the pipewire's bluetooth module. I mean, I'm thinking that your problem is related to bluetoooth, but I can't figure out anything from your information. It seems to me that pipewire is still in the testing phase in debian, though? Basically, it is a debian problem, not the enlightenment problem, so you should ask the debian ML. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+e @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:01:18 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MM> Oh, you're asking for installed packages then, not installed files. Here they MM> are: MM> apt list --installed | grep pipewire MM> gstreamer1.0-pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-0/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-common/testing,testing,now 0.3.65-2 all [installato, automatico] MM> libpipewire-0.3-modules/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-bin/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> apt list --installed | grep pulse MM> gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio/testing,now 1.22.0-dmo2 amd64 [installato] MM> libcanberra-pulse/testing,now 0.30-10 amd64 [installato] MM> libpulse-dev/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] MM> libpulse-mainloop-glib0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, MM> automatico] MM> libpulse0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> libpulsedsp/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] MM> pulseaudio-utils/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico] MM> pulseaudio/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato] Your package configuration is incorrect. First, the following packages are missing; pipewire-alsa pipewire-module-x11 pipewire-spa-plugins pipewire-tools pipewire-spa-tools alsa-plugins-pulse pipewire-aptx (if exists) Second, the following package is unnecessary; gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio What did you decide the configuration based on? MN> > BTW. [...] MN> > The bluetooth module for pulseaudio is unnecessary. MN> > If you have it in there, it will be a bad thing, won't it? MM> It is there since when i was using pulse and i don't have any MM> problem with bluetooth devices (actually the only device i use is MM> an headphone). The idea that it is good enough if it just works should be stopped. Under the pipewire, at minimum, you will need to install the libspa-0.2-plugins package, remove the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth package, and then either reboot your computer or restart the PipeWire services, otherwise device connections will fail with "Protocol not available". Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <9295854b-d14e-04c2-1b7f-5730c9176...@gmx.fr> Date & Time: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:47:37 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr has written: > Hi > I use pipewire and wireplumber with enlightenment, not pulseaudio (only > libpulse > dependency) > My default device is headphones, so, i set this choice in e mixer but, it > often > falls back to speaker. Other mixer issue, I disable audio input but it always > falls back to enabled... > Arch Linux system > enlightenment-git > efl-git Aren't you using bluetooth headphones? If so, have a look; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/issues/89 Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "It should never be said that it is OK to ignore the theoretical as long as it becomes a tool." -- T. Mori (The original is in Japanese) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <718eba49-978d-15d3-1c01-d66b8f8f4...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:15:06 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 12:04: [...] MM> > I guess I was wrong, all I asked for was a list of all the pipewire MM> > and pulsewaudio files installed. MM> It's a huge list and i don't know if there is a command which can MM> show all the list. Do you expect something particularly? If it's huge, I wouldn't tell you. Is this is? $ apt list --installed ｜ grep pipewire and $ apt list --installed ｜ grep pulse BTW. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <52a2c549-be5d-7ed4-3934-4f9439b8f...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 11:49:28 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 11:19: [...] MN> > 2. list of pipewire modules and pulsesudio modules MM> The only pulseaudio module is bluetooth, same thing for pipewire. The bluetooth module for pulseaudio is unnecessary. If you have it in there, it will be a bad thing, won't it? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, I checked a debian user's blog, but it only describes the same procedure and settings as my Tumbleweed. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <52a2c549-be5d-7ed4-3934-4f9439b8f...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 11:49:28 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 11:19: [...] MN> > 2. list of pipewire modules and pulsesudio modules MM> The only pulseaudio module is bluetooth, same thing for pipewire. I guess I was wrong, all I asked for was a list of all the pipewire and pulsewaudio files installed. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <2e03fd40-d6c0-34d0-b342-8d512d7f2...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:51:55 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 10:40: [..] MN> > Or, maybe pulseaudio is also running? MM> The only process with pulse in its name is pipewire-pulse MM> max@diamante:~$ ps aux | grep pulse MM> max 2351 6.1 5.7 1444696 701900 ? SLsl feb20 412:23 MM> /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse MM> > How about this? MM> > MM> >$ systemctl --user --now disable pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket MM> Run without any message, will see if it has fixed it at next reboot :) Thanks. No reboot is required and the effect is immediate. Please show the results of; 1. $ pactl info 2. list of pipewire modules and pulsesudio modules Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+e @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:20:33 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 10:06: MM> > Hello, MM> > MM> > In the Message; MM> > MM> >Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue MM> >Message-ID : <303eb230-672a-f45f-6a95-a1a52038b...@gmail.com> MM> >Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 09:51:01 +0100 MM> > MM> > [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: [...] MN>> How do you know the daemon is running? MM> As i said, if they weren't running the mixer module wouldn't find MM> them not even after reload. Instead it does, so i assume it finds MM> a daemon to talk to, and indeed i can see they are up and running: MM> max@diamante:~$ ps aux | grep pipe MM> max 2346 0.3 0.7 182864 93708 ?Ssl feb20 25:37 MM> /usr/bin/pipewire MM> max 2351 6.1 5.7 1444696 701900 ? SLsl feb20 412:31 MM> /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse MM> > If the daemon is running, it should work with doing this; MM> > MM> > $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber MM> > MM> > What Distro are you using? MM> Debian testing Thanks. As you can see from the source, enlightenment incorporates pulseaudio, not pipewire. This can be found in; /usr/lib64/enlightenment/modules/mixer/linux-gnu-x86_64-dev-0.25.99/module.so. Or, maybe pulseaudio is also running? How about this? $ systemctl --user --now disable pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+e @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <303eb230-672a-f45f-6a95-a1a52038b...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 09:51:01 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 09:23: MM> > Hello, MM> > MM> > In the Message; MM> > MM> >Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue MM> >Message-ID : MM> >Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 08:55:20 +0100 MM> > MM> > [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> > MM> > MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 01:29: MM> > MM> > [...] MM> > MN>> How do you run unload/reload? MM> > MM> > MM> I just go to the modules dialog (Menu/settings/modules), select MM> > MM> the mixer module, click on unload and then on load (maybe in MM> > MM> english they are named differently). MM> > MM> > MM> It looks to me like the pipewire server execution needs a bit of MM> > MM> extra time so after e starts it's not already available; MM> > MM> reloading it after e is up and running make the module find it, MM> > MM> and since i don't reboot frequently i can live with it :) MM> > MM> > Usually, the usage in Linux is as follows; MM> > MM> >$ systemctl --user daemon-reload MM> >$ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber MM> > MM> > It is essential to start the pipewire daemon. MM> The daemons are running of course, if they weren't running the mixer module MM> wouldn't find them not even after reload. How do you know the daemon is running? If the daemon is running, it should work with doing this; $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber What Distro are you using? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 08:55:20 +0100 [MM] == Massimo Maiurana has written: MM> Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 25/02/23 alle 01:29: [...] MN>> How do you run unload/reload? MM> I just go to the modules dialog (Menu/settings/modules), select MM> the mixer module, click on unload and then on load (maybe in MM> english they are named differently). MM> It looks to me like the pipewire server execution needs a bit of MM> extra time so after e starts it's not already available; MM> reloading it after e is up and running make the module find it, MM> and since i don't reboot frequently i can live with it :) Usually, the usage in Linux is as follows; $ systemctl --user daemon-reload $ systemctl --user start pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber It is essential to start the pipewire daemon. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛"Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <6c730b34-3102-3ebe-ec5d-bab2a3925...@gmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:39:32 +0100 Massimo Maiurana has written: > I have pipewire too in debian and the only issue I noticed is that after e has > started the mixer module doesn't detect the audio server, but unloading and > realoading the module fixes it. Have you tried this unload/reload to see if > the > issue disappers? How do you run unload/reload? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue Message-ID : <9295854b-d14e-04c2-1b7f-5730c9176...@gmx.fr> Date & Time: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:47:37 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr has written: > Hi > I use pipewire and wireplumber with enlightenment, not pulseaudio > (only libpulse dependency) I'm in the same environment. > My default device is headphones, so, i set this choice in e mixer but, it > often > falls back to speaker. Other mixer issue, I disable audio input but it always > falls back to enabled... > Arch Linux system > enlightenment-git > efl-git How about with pavucontrol? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-crash issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] e-crash issue Message-ID : <20230111083906.22c9ccc18ce34767e012f...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 08:39:06 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:00:48 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > I solidified the e-log.log into a log.tgz and uploaded it to the MN> > following location; MN> > MN> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/100t8RwoGCtFdqAvZmWKpuVPA1UH0qca5/view?usp=sharing CH> I see like complete eina log output (not useful). you've raised your eina log CH> level to something really extreme... but there is nothing in there from asan. CH> so .. you didn't get that log, or asan is not working. i suggest you reduce CH> your eina log levels again to normal I got the .e-log.log under this setting; export EINA_LOG_LEVEL=4 Is this level too high? What setting is "normal level"? Or is this a bad build condition? export ASAN_OPTIONS=detect_stack_use_after_return=0:detect_odr_violation=0:detect_leaks=0:abort_on_error=1:new_delete_type_mismatch =0 Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+enlight @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" ... "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-crash issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] e-crash issue Message-ID : <20221221105449.7e143081d6f53eac37983...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 10:54:49 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 19:02:45 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > Anyway, I uploaded it here under the file nmae dump.tgz; MN> > MN> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VLvws1FYbjOUsAw3z8RLDSCzy9QQZjhl/view?usp=sharing CH> i need ~/.e-log.log to see asan's output... th crashdump is also CH> useful-but the asan log in ~/.e-log.log is very important. here CH> what i see is a crash inside malloc itself, so i think by now CH> everything will have gone bad and memory malloc relies on CH> tracking allocations is somehow messed up. CH> you might have to go back to good old valgrind... Finally, I was able to get .e-log.log. No matter how many times I did the debug build, the .e-log.log was not generated, and I finally figured out that it was caused by gcc13 installed with the Tumbleweed update, and added the following; ASAN_OPTION detect_stack_use_after_return=0 to ASAN_OPTION was the solution. Anyway, today, I got an e-crash. When I downloaded the 02_o.png file from this site; https://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/img/iw/docs/1469/183/html/02_o.png.html e-crash appeared. I solidified the e-log.log into a log.tgz and uploaded it to the following location; https://drive.google.com/file/d/100t8RwoGCtFdqAvZmWKpuVPA1UH0qca5/view?usp=sharing Thanks in advance. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+enlight @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-crash issue
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] e-crash issue Message-ID : <20221216054249.15580dfc6752064485701...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 05:42:49 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 18:09:13 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> you can read their PKGBUILD files to see how CH> efl and e are built with asan. CH> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git-asan CH> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=enlightenment-git-asan Sorry , but I had done it,before. m(_ _)m BTW, I did so, and I got a crash dump just now, But, files's name is .e-crashdump.txt (before, the file name was indeed .e-log.log). Anyway, I uploaded it here under the file nmae dump.tgz; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VLvws1FYbjOUsAw3z8RLDSCzy9QQZjhl/view?usp=sharing Regards, --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e-crash issue
Hello, The flashing phenomenon occurred once, but I was unable to record it due to a concurrent e-crash, and will do so at a later date . Another problem now. I often download web files using the browser Vivaldi, and occasionally (but I feel it is more often than not) I get an e-crash. Until now, I thought it was probably caused by Vivaldi, butToday, after updating pipewire and wireplumber. $ systemctl --user daemon-reload $ systemctl --user pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber on the shelf, I couldn't see the Mixer icon on the shelf anymore, so I clicked on that part and it caused e-crash, and I panicked and pressed the F1 key. This made me wonder if the e-crash could have been caused by something else. So, I uploaded the .e-crahdump.txt file. I have put the file as e-crashdump.txt.gz at the following location. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1asT2-k8-ykkKWBEAQkjoDnJIKN-W4SHQ/view?usp=share_link Could you have look? I would appreciate your advice. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Blinking Issue?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Blinking Issue? Message-ID : <20221214075723.98c4502aef1b4712b49b5...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:57:23 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 06:43:13 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> i suspect the blinking issue might be driver related - if you can get a video CH> of it, that will help me understand what is happening. Apparently so ... I came home about three hours ago and replaced the video driver, but so far I haven't had any flashing problems. I was taking video, but when I looked at it, it was still in standby mode. (^^;; I will tr.y again tomorrow Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Blinking Issue?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Blinking Issue? Message-ID : <3e14b14b-4a02-a3e8-7656-a7a432b32...@woelders.dk> Date & Time: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:14:37 +0100 [KW] == Kim Woelders has written: KW> Just for the record - e16 does do compositing, has since 0.16.8, released in KW> 2006. Not GL, just Xrender. KW> It does however not use anything .e/... (but .e16/...) or efl, and has no KW> shelves or iBar stuff, so I doubt we are actually talking about e16 here. I have five Window Managers installed, the main one I use is enlightenment, and e16 is just for deleting .e's and restoration work. In other words, the blinking issue is not about e16, but about enlightenment. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Blinking Issue?
Hello, I'm using .e, which still has iBox-like behaviour, but it's starting to behave more and more like an iBar, so I thought I'd configure a new .e and see what happens. I'm using the latest version of efl and enlightenment provided by openSUSE (probably the git state-of-the-art), with e16. $ mv .e e.orig and logged into enlightenment, configured .e according to the guidelines and registered the applications in shelf as before. When using it with this, the phenomenon of the work area blinking while working in the terminal or in Emacs occurred frequently, and I investigated various things, but could not find the trigger and cause, so I entered e16 and did the following. $ cp -rp .e.orig .e and logged in to enloghtenment again, the blinking phenomenon disappeared. Is this a phenomenon unique to me? I would like to add that the reconfigured e. does indeed improve the usability of the iconified apps, but the fact that the shelf is bloated with the icons of multiple running apps is making me think. In other words, since I am using it with multiple apps running all the time ... Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Does the ｓelective apply of the Application Theme is possible?
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject: Re: [e-users] Does the ｓelective apply of the Application Theme
is possible?
Message-ID : <20221104080902.501d05fc@DellVostro.homenet>
Date & Time: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 08:21:55 +0100
[CB] == Christian Bochu via enlightenment-users
has written:
CB> Hi,
CB> Wed, 2 Nov 2022 21:22:58 +1030, Simon Lees a écrit :
SL> > On 11/2/22 20:58, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
SL> > > Hello,
SL> > >
SL> > > I would be happy if I could selectively apply the Application Theme,
SL> > > but is this possible?
CB> > The application theme is just a standard GTK theme. I believe it is
CB> > possible to exclude / make special cases with GTK themes but
CB> > personally i've never tried so I don't 100% know how to do it other
CB> > then that is the direction you should look in. E isn't doing anything
CB> > more then setting the gtk theme and also setting KDE/Qt to use its
CB> > gtk theme engine if available
CB> I usually prepend "env GTK_THEME=Adwaita:dark" to command lines
CB> when I want to apply the Adwaita dark theme to specific applications
CB> over the global theme.
CB> I do this in the iBar icon settings ("Application" entry) or in the
CB> .desktop file. For example, my libreoffice-writer.desktop file has this
CB> line "Exec=env GTK_THEME=Adwaita:dark libreoffice --writer %U".
CB> Hope this helps.
It’s great cool of you to do so!
Thanks to your advice, I colud got the desired behaviour.
Many Thanks.
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Re: [e-users] Does the ｓelective apply of the Application Theme is possible?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Does the ｓelective apply of the Application Theme is possible? Message-ID : <20221102105610.a4f9f41d31166ccdd04cf...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 10:56:10 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 02 Nov 2022 19:28:01 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > I would be happy if I could selectively apply the Application Theme, MN> > but is this possible? CH> it's not possible. gtk an qt read xsettings for this and this is CH> a singleton "one config for the whole session/screen" and CH> designed that way. elementary allows for per-window x client CH> messages to tell elm to switch profile ... thus could switch CH> theme/config (e uses this for screen specific profiles) - efl CH> doesnt use xsettings. That’s what I thought. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Does the ｓelective apply of the Application Theme is possible?
Hello, I like the Application Theme and I use Plata Noir, but there are some applications I want to exclude. For example, I use seamonkey for sites that have problems with my regular Vivaldi, but if I don't change the Application Theme to something like Adwaita, the display is black and I can't read it. I would be happy if I could selectively apply the Application Theme, but is this possible? Thanks in advance. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "The question of who holds the platform and whether the person or organisation holding it is trustworthy has serious and profound implications in these volatile times. Once trust is broken, it is extremely difficult to restore. It is necessary to diversify in advance." -- Financial Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] On iconization
Hello, Today, I reconstructed .e, and found the efm. I thought the look & feel had changed, and proceeded to set it up. But there is one thing I can't figure out. In other words, I often iconize apps with the minimise button, and I want to set them to appear on the left side of the iBar as before, but I can't figure out how to do it. Could someone inform me of how to do it? Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A society bound by e-mail and mobile phones deprives us of the freedom to face ourselves and indulge our fantasies." -- Michael Crichton (Speech in Japan) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list Message-ID : Date & Time: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 21:36:35 +0930 [SL] == Simon Lees has written: SL> On 9/19/22 12:00, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN>> BTW, I can't believe that someone with a career as yours doesn't MN>> know about recoll. SL> I work full time for a linux distro, I also don't know about SL> recoil. Basically, it is a manifestation of the difference in thinking between the sciences and the humanities regarding digital archiving, I think. Although, I am also a science person myself. [...] MN> > Now then, as a workaround, I did MN> > MN> > # ln -s /usr/bin/kde-open /usr/bin/xdg-open MN> > MN> > With this, recoll seems to be working fine! MN> > MN> > I'm wondering if there are any problems with this workaround? SL> If it works for you then no, xdg-open is a very simple script SL> which will detect if your running enlightenment and then call SL> enlightenment-open, or will check if your running kde and will SL> call kde-open in that case because generally this is whats SL> available on your system. Ah, I see. SL> The only thing you really have to worry about is if your package SL> manager updates xdg-utils then it might remove the symlink. I am aware of this. Anyway, many thanks, indeed. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list Message-ID : <20220919121153.4993b375f1e44fc0ad2bc...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 12:11:53 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:30:15 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH>>> efm is enlightenment's file manager - built in. MN>> Come to think of it, there sure was. MN>> But now it doesn't appear on the menu. (_ _? CH> just open the icons on your desktop... or the navigate menu in CH> the main menu - unless you removed the module. No, I didn't remove. I'm using Nautilus mainly, but Nautilus blows up when I try to view audio or video properties, so I had trouble and installed Thunar. I'll try to get e's file manager back tomorrow. [...] CH> > But why would it call up a Windows app instead of a Linux native app? [...] CH> will modify mimeapps.list to record the app you last used for CH> that mime type as the app to use. Thanks. MN>> BTW, I can't believe that someone with a career as yours doesn't MN>> know about recoll. CH> why do i need it? i have grep -r. :) git grep ... i have no need CH> to search arbitrary filesystems for text - ever. i DO have a need CH> to search my source trees or specific file trees like n CH> /usr/include and grep -r does the job perfectly. :) i don't have CH> to set aup any indexing or anything ... just use it whenever i CH> need to. git grep is a much faster form within a source tree as CH> git knows which files are in the source and which are generated CH> by builds etc. ... Just as I thought ... You're a pure engineer! I have been creating digital scraps since 1998, mainly using newspaper articles, which now have about 2.5 million files. When I want to look at a phenomenon historically and comprehensively, a full-text search system play an important role. Until I came across recoll, I was using a system called namazu, but the following problems existed: 1. it cannot be used under UTF-8 code. 2. it supports English, but there are some limitations. 3. MS-Word, MS-Excel, PowerPiont, and PDF files require the time-consuming operation of watching search results and opening them again When I came across recoll, I was surprised by the high level of listability. That is, for example, a PDF file as a search result can be viewed immediately as a PDF file. You can see why this is reasonable. The problem lies in the lack of Japanese morphological analysis. There is a good software for Japanese morphological analysis, but I can make suggestions only Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list Message-ID : <20220918193243.f395bf4c3137fccbc06e7...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:32:43 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:09:12 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> > Hello, CH> > CH> > In the Message; CH> > CH> > Subject: Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list CH> > Message-ID : <20220918093940.694f6b28cad7744e32866...@rasterman.com> CH> > Date & Time: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 09:39:40 +0100 CH> > CH> > [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> > CH> > CH> On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:08:44 +0900 Masaru Nomiya CH> > CH> said: [...] MN>> The way you put it, we can't use recoll under the enlightenment, is MN>> that right? MN>> Are you actually saying that none of the enlightenment users use MN>> recoll? CH> i have never heard of recoll. MN>> In additon, MN>> 1. sorry, but what is the efm? CH> efm is enlightenment's file manager - built in. Come to think of it, there sure was. But now it doesn't appear on the menu. (_ _? MN>> 2. pmview.exe doesn't include the pdf file as a target file. CH> it probably says it handles all mime types, not just pdf. I see. But why would it call up a Windows app instead of a Linux native app? BTW, I can't believe that someone with a career as yours doesn't know about recoll. Arch Linux itself provides the package Now then, as a workaround, I did # ln -s /usr/bin/kde-open /usr/bin/xdg-open With this, recoll seems to be working fine! I'm wondering if there are any problems with this workaround? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiyamail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list Message-ID : <20220918093940.694f6b28cad7744e32866...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 09:39:40 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:08:44 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> > Hello, CH> > CH> > In enlightenment (0.25.3 and 0.25.4), and e16 (1.0.24), xdg-open CH> > exhibits strange behaviours; CH> > CH> > 1. for plain text e-mail in many folders, the command CH> > CH> > $ xdg-open 1 CH> > CH> > tries to show it in the default audio player. CH> let me guess - there is a disagreement on mime type as this has CH> absolutely no way to tell what kind of file that is (without CH> opening it up and poking around inside). efreet has multiple ways CH> of checking the type one - fo them is an expensive "poke around CH> inside". efm doesn't use that when it lists files as it's really CH> costly to go open every file you list and scan around for magic CH> byte sequences as you list a directory... enlightenment_open uses CH> the more expensive efreet call that pokes around inside because CH> it's only opening 1 or a small set of files, not a whole CH> directory. opening up files with poor/ambiguous extensions is CH> going to lead to this. there are performance tradeoffs. Sorry, but your comment is very hard to understand. I found the issue via using of recoll. This is a great application, and I am thrilled that I can instantly find the files I want from the nearly 5 million files on my system. This is a great application, and I am thrilled that I can instantly find the files I want from the nearly 5 million files on my system. As you may know, xdg-open plays an important role in the display of search results in this application, but I hesitate to use it under enlightenment because it behaves like a sleepwalker. The way you put it, we can't use recoll under the enlightenment, is that right? Are you actually saying that none of the enlightenment users use recoll? In additon, 1. sorry, but what is the efm? 2. pmview.exe doesn't include the pdf file as a target file. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, Sorry, I've fogotten to write my system. OS: openSUSE Tumbleweed (always latest) Kernel : 5.19.8-1-default Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 xdg-open : version 1.1.3+ In the Message; Subject: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list Message-ID : <87o7vdjmlf.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:08:44 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: MN> Hello, MN> In enlightenment (0.25.3 and 0.25.4), and e16 (1.0.24), xdg-open MN> exhibits strange behaviours; MN> 1. for plain text e-mail in many folders, the command MN> $ xdg-open 1 MN> tries to show it in the default audio player. MN> 2. for pdf files, MN> $ xdg-open foo.pdf MN> tries to show it in the pmview.exe (= pictuew viewer for Windows, MN> works on the wine), then enters an infinite loop and forces a MN> reboot. MN> However, kde-open works correctly according to the settings in the MN> mimeapps.list. MN> Furthermore, its xdg-open works fine on Gnome. MN> I think there is a bug. Regards. --- Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list
Hello, In enlightenment (0.25.3 and 0.25.4), and e16 (1.0.24), xdg-open exhibits strange behaviours; 1. for plain text e-mail in many folders, the command $ xdg-open 1 tries to show it in the default audio player. 2. for pdf files, $ xdg-open foo.pdf tries to show it in the pmview.exe (= pictuew viewer for Windows, works on the wine), then enters an infinite loop and forces a reboot. However, kde-open works correctly according to the settings in the mimeapps.list. Furthermore, its xdg-open works fine on Gnome. I think there is a bug. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "She continues to deeply divide opinion, nearly a decade after her death in 2013, due to her policies of privatisation, breaking the power of trade unions, and selling off public housing." -- World Is One News -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] SDDM Enlightenment/wayland doesn't worked after "e wl - force gl for wl mode now due to kernel breaks" commit
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] SDDM Enlightenment/wayland doesn't worked after "e wl - force gl for wl mode now due to kernel breaks" commit Message-ID : Date & Time: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:42:55 +0200 [DA] == daniel antoine has written: DA> Hi DA> I have installed the commit "e wl - force gl for wl mode now due to DA> kernel breaks" and when I select on SDDM the Enlightenment/wayland DA> session and validate the user/password , it return the SDDM screen for DA> login again, Enlightenment_start is not taken in count. DA> If I disable sddm and launch the command Exec=E_WL_FORCE=drm DA> E_COMP_ENGINE=gl /usr/bin/enlightenment_start at the console, it DA> starts after a long pause. It seems that the command in DA> /usr/share/wayland-sessions/enlightenment.desktop is not recognised DA> under SDDM. DA> I have tried to put quotes in the command but without success. DA> If I remove E_WL_FORCE=drm E_COMP_ENGINE=gl in the EXEC command SDDM DA> is able to launch the wayland session. This is a $> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE wayland is it? And, which video chip are you using? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ " Today’s China is not the old China humiliated and bullied over 100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their imperial dream." -- Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 4, 2022 -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.
Hello,
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Subject: Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black
screen issue.
Message-ID :
Date & Time: Fri, 5 Aug 2022 22:43:22 +0930
[SL] == Simon Lees has written:
[...]
MN> > As you know, system.conf included in the
MN> > enlightenment-0.25.3-269.5.src.rpm, it is set as fllows;
MN> > [...]
MN> > # deny everyone else by default
MN> > user: * deny: *
MN> >
MN> > In response to this setting, the enlightenment complains that it
MN> > should be changed to 'allow'.
SL> This should be ok because atleast from
SL>
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/X11:Enlightenment:Factory/enlightenment/system.conf?expand=1
SL> the following is before it
SL> user:* allow: backlight
SL> user:* allow: ddc
SL> user:* allow: rfkill
SL> user:* allow: l2ping
SL> user:* allow: cpufreq
SL> which means that all users have access to all the modules we actually need.
I know it.
Enlightenment complains about the bottom part;
[...]
# deny everyone else by default
user: * deny: *
I installed it yesterday from the Enlightenment:Nightly repo, and it
is fixed as follows;
[...]
# deny everyone else by default
user: * allow: *
[...]
SL>>> enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is
SL>>> labeled in gdm as experimental again [...]
MN>> It is as you say with sddm, too.
MN>> In gdm, I can log in by entering my password, but in sddm, two
MN>> enlightenment items appear in the menu, and I have to select the lower
MN>> one and enter my password before I can log in.
MN>>
MN>> I don't understand why two enlightenment items appear when there is
MN> > only one enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions.
SL> Can you please paste the output of "ls -la /usr/share/xsessions/" and ls
SL> -la /usr/share/wayland-sessions/"
For a long time, they were
in /usr/share/xsessions/
enlightenment.desktop -> ../wayland-xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
and, in /usr/share/wayland-xsessions/
enlightenment-wayland.desktop
enlightenment.desktop
Some time ago, they were changed to;
in /usr/share/xsessions/
enlightenment.desktop
and, in /usr/share/wayland-xsessions/
enlightenment-wayland.desktop
enlightenment.desktop -> ../xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
In the above case, I had to do the following;
1. # rm /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
2. # cp /usr/share/waylans-xsessions/enlightenment.desktop
/usr/share/xsessions/
Regardless of this change, in both cases, I had to select the
Enlightenment item at the bottom of the sddm menu to log in.
I am wondering if it would otherwise try to start in Wayland.
But now, with the efl & enlightenment installed from the
Enlightenment:Nightly repo, I can log in smoothly.
I changed the repo after I saw the enlightenment.spec said;
# Wayland is broken with current efl waiting for a new e release
%if 0%{?suse_version} > 1500 || 0%{?fedora_version} > 27
# Disable wayland for now due to NVIDIA issues
%define enable_wayland 0
%else
%define enable_wayland 0
%endif
MN>> I have no intention to change to nouveau and I will not move to
MN>> Wayland because of it. I think Wayland itself is just experimetal.
MN>> Or does Tumbleweed have the requirements for enable_wayland?
SL> Yeah basically if you use gdm, and choose "Enlightenment" which comes
SL> from /usr/share/xsessions you will get enlightenment and everything will
SL> run fine, if you choose Enlightenment - Wayland (Experemental) or
SL> whatever I called it you can test out wayland that one should live in
SL> /usr/share/wayland-sessions/. Last time I tried sddm it ignored wayland
SL> so I've never tested it there but I can confirm with an intel gpu and
SL> gdm it works.
I had to go to nouveau
SL> Raster said there has been some issues with Nvidia and efl in gles mode
SL> if your seeing these issues at some point i'll i'll probably have to
SL> build a separate efl package using traditional opengl for nvidia, this
SL> is basically just work I haven't found time for yet.
What is the problem?
In any case, I'll wait until you have spare time.
Regards.
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100 years ago. It is time for these people to wake up from their
imperial dream."
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Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue. Message-ID : <31a55bfd-93a7-9124-8d5b-de2119c7f...@suse.de> Date & Time: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 23:40:33 +0930 [SL] == Simon Lees has written: [...] SL> Feel free to ask those questions here, I look after those and still keep SL> an eye on this list. Many thanks. SL> In terms of system.conf we were disabling some modules that aren't used SL> on systemd systems to reduce the security footprint, but then we stopped SL> having a "users" group on new systems so it had to be changed, openqa SL> seems to be telling me this is working again but if its not right let SL> me know which repo so I can fix it. Sorry, I didn't check enough. As you know, system.conf included in the enlightenment-0.25.3-269.5.src.rpm, it is set as fllows; [...] # deny everyone else by default user: * deny: * In response to this setting, the enlightenment complains that it should be changed to 'allow'. SL> Similarly at one point in some repos there was a bug where a wayland SL> enlightenment.desktop file was being installed which gdm will pick over SL> the X11 one, as far as I know this should be fixed, so that the default SL> option with enlightenment.desktop is X11 but there is now an SL> enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is SL> labeled in gdm as experimental again if this was missed in a repo SL> please let me know where (its a 2 line fix). Those I am referring to as the openSUSE build is located at; https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment:/Factory/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ SL> enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is SL> labeled in gdm as experimental again [...] It is as you say with sddm, too. In gdm, I can log in by entering my password, but in sddm, two enlightenment items appear in the menu, and I have to select the lower one and enter my password before I can log in. I don't understand why two enlightenment items appear when there is only one enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions. I have a basic question. I can't figure out why Tumbleweed gives me %define enable_wayland 1 when it is written # Wayland is broken with current efl waiting for a new e release as the comments. I have no intention to change to nouveau and I will not move to Wayland because of it. I think Wayland itself is just experimetal. Or does Tumbleweed have the requirements for enable_wayland? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue. Message-ID : <20220803153042.0afbd724fe67ca3caa6cf...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 15:30:42 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 22:49:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > Xorg server crashed? CH> that's what it looks like. X I/O fatal error is e's x connection being killed CH> off. that is most likely because the Xserver crashed. check your X logs. it CH> might bein the Xorg.0.log.old - also double check Xorg.1.log - maybe your CH> display manager runs 2 xservers. i have seen this with gdm these days i think, CH> so display is :1 not :0. MN> > --- enlightenment.desktop.orig 2022-08-03 10:28:09.525158438 +0900 MN> > +++ enlightenment.desktop 2022-08-03 10:28:35.249074546 +0900 MN> > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ MN> > [Desktop Entry] -Type=Application MN> > -Type=Application MN> > +Type=XSession MN> > Name=Enlightenment MN> > Name[ca]=Enlightenment MN> > Name[de]=Enlightenment MN> > Name[de]=Enlightenment MN> > So far, this seems to have solved the black screen problem. CH> WTF? That has never been a requirement. Type=Application has CH> always worked and no one has every defined that it MUST be of CH> Type=XSession ... Thanks. You gave me a big hint. Come to think of it, my problem started when I moved to opensuse Tumbleweed and started using efl & enlightenment in the openSUSE build. So I downloaded the enlightenment-0.25.3-269.5.src.rpm from the openSUSE site, built & installed, then shutdown & rebooted many times, no problem. Of course, I did not rewrite the "enlightenment.desktop" file. To my surprise, the file contents are different. For example, when I install an openSUSE build, enlightenment asks me to change the system.conf, but the one I built at hand has a system.conf that matches enlightenment's requirements. (_ _? Anyway, there are some questions about the wayland handling in the openSUSE built, so I built and installed efl and enlightenment without wayland, and they works fine for me now. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx? Message-ID : <8735ehsjbu.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:49:25 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: [...] MN> I changed sddm to gdm MN> It was a good opportunity, so I rearranged the kde-related MN> files, it was unexpectedly clear. Unfortunately, I was caught in the persistent black screen problem, again. So, I changed gdm to lightdm, but was aloso caught in the persistent black screen problem. Here, the .e-log.log said; [...] libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile ESTART: 1.39836 [0.29579] - SLEEP CPUFREQ: pstate [min=0 max=100 turbo=1] libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile SSS: e_sys_ction_do ret=1 a=0 X I/O Error - fatal. Exiting Xorg server crashed? I can't think so, then I looked it up and watched it. The Xorg.0.log in /var/lib/gdm/.local/share/xorg says; [...] 110.223] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:66 [ 110.246] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 [ 110.252] (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. That is, the Xorg server worked just fine. As I thought that DM could not find the enlightenment_start command, then checked the enlightenment.desktop file, and found a strange description [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Name=Enlightenment 「．..] I thought that Type=Application is a mistake, so changed the file enlightenment.desktop to --- enlightenment.desktop.orig 2022-08-03 10:28:09.525158438 +0900 +++ enlightenment.desktop 2022-08-03 10:28:35.249074546 +0900 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ [Desktop Entry] -Type=Application -Type=Application +Type=XSession Name=Enlightenment Name[ca]=Enlightenment Name[de]=Enlightenment Name[de]=Enlightenment So far, this seems to have solved the black screen problem. Now, I am using ENLIGHTENMENT via sddm, which has many reports of problems. Am I misunderstanding something? --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx? Message-ID : <20220730181159.415688c1a040526774b57...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 18:11:59 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 17:05:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> > I would like to see that reports, can you give me its pointers? CH> No - was on IRC #e I think. I see. I changed sddm to gdm It was a good opportunity, so I rearranged the kde-related files, it was unexpectedly clear. Many thanks. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx? Message-ID : <20220730083937.5e415f95d861bbff06a8d...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 30 Jul 2022 08:39:37 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 13:10:12 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: MN> > This is a continuation from before, but I think it would be better to MN> > start a new thread on this. CH> FYI there have been problem reports of sddm and e - and changing to something CH> other than sddm fixed it. Ah, Thanks. I would like to see that reports, can you give me its pointers? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "In the west, from the time of the Ancient Greeks to the modern day ― from Plato in his cave to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World ― the idea that reality has value, no matter how ugly or unpleasant it might be, has been accepted as an article of faith." -- J. Kelly "What Meta's VR advert tells us about life in the metaverse" -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Black screen issue - Why been excluded fcitx?
Hello, This is a continuation from before, but I think it would be better to start a new thread on this. Yesterday, on my second black screen, the sddm spit out the following log. [...] xrdb: colon missing on line 1, ignoring line xrdb: colon missing on line 2, ignoring line xrdb: colon missing on line 3, ignoring line xrdb: colon missing on line 4, ignoring line libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile CPUFREQ: pstate [min=0 max=100 turbo=1] libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile PAUSE ! = = FCITX 4.2.9.7 -- Get Signal No.: 1 Date: try "date -d @1659090285" if you are using GNU date *** ProcessID: 2612 fcitx(+0x18a6)[0x55e785bb78a6] /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x3d990)[0x7f5014703990] /lib64/libc.so.6(__write+0x51)[0x7f50147c8f3f] fcitx(+0x1648)[0x55e785bb7648] /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x3d990)[0x7f5014703990] /lib64/libc.so.6(__select+0x14e)[0x7f50147cfc8c] /lib64/libfcitx-core.so.0(+0x1585f)[0x7f501490885f] /lib64/libfcitx-core.so.0(FcitxInstanceRun+0x57)[0x7f5014908fb7] fcitx(+0x1352)[0x55e785bb7352] /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x275f0)[0x7f50146ed5f0] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x8b)[0x7f50146ed6b9] fcitx(_start+0x25)[0x55e785bb7445] X I/O Error - fatal. Exiting As you probably know, FCITX 4.2.9.7 and below is the crash log of fcitx. I thought this is possible, so I downgraded the fcitx and removed the unnecessary fcitx-pinyin. Since then, I have logged out & logged in, shut down & powered off, powered on & booted several times, and have never had a black screen. Then I checked the efl's build options and found that there is an ecore-imf-loaders-disabler, but there is no option for fcitx. I thought of adding fcitx to the build, but there is a reason not to include fcitx? I don't remember when, but ibus became hard to use, and now I think the majority of users use fcitx? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file)
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file) Message-ID : Date & Time: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 23:03:47 +0930 [SL] == Simon Lees has written: SL> Hi SL> On 7/24/22 16:40, Carsten Haitzler wrote: SL> > On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 10:06:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN>>> I can't understand why they are making it for wayland. CH>> it supports doing it. it is experimental. SL> Yes atleast in the main repos it should be there but labeled as SL> experimental and the standard .desktop file should start X11, this was SL> broken for a while in one of the devel projects but i'm pretty sure I SL> fixed it so if you still see this please let me know which repo your SL> installing e from and which display manager you are using. Thanks. Now, I'm using enlightenment-0.25.3-269.3 for openSUSE Tumbleweed. Unfortunately, the problem has not yet been solved. The problem seems to originate from sddm, not enlightenment. A search using the keywords Linux, sddm, black screen, many trouble reports were shown. But no solution was found. In my case, the problem seems to be caused by an update of plasma. I am wondering why this problem does not occur on e16. The other thing I wonder is that if I change sddm.conf to - [Theme] Current=breeze-openSUSE [X11] ServerPath=/usr/bin/X SessionLogFile=/home/masaru/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log SessionDir=/usr/share/xsessions then the empty file waykand-session.log appears instead of xorg-session.log. On the other hand, if I set sddm.conf to -- [Theme] Current=breeze-openSUSE [Wayland] SessionLogFile=/home/masaru/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log SessionDir=/usr/share/wayland-sessions SessionCommand=/usr/share/sddm/scripts/wayland-session --- then the logged xorg-session.log appeared instead of wayland-session.log. I think the solution is to change the DM, but I like sddm, so I'll do some more research. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "It should never be said that it is OK to ignore the theoretical as long as it becomes a tool." -- T. Mori (The original is in Japanese) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file)
Hello, I'm so sorry for the very late reply. I was working on a solution for the black screen problem that was occurring close to 100% of the time after logging in. This has led me to several problems with the current system. As it turns out, the black scrren problem was caused by the enlightenment package in the opensuse built installing enlightenment.desktop for wayland. I can't understand why they are making it for wayland. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file) Message-ID : <20220719083050.b494977e0c379f2abb21b...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 08:30:50 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:02:04 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> Holy crap... you have enabled efl debugging. eina debug levels CH> are set to show all debug messages... that will be a LOT. it's CH> for debugging. you probably have set the EINA_LOG_LEVEL CH> environment variable and to some high level like 4. I noticed this during the work. I don't remember when or why I set it up. CH> remove that environment variable or set it to 1 or lower. like CH> export EINA_LOG_LEVEL=1 I've removed the setteing in the .bashrc. CH> check your environment variable. the other option is someone added CH> -DDEBUG or something to CFLAGS when building efl and thus turned CH> on debug mode by default in the source... but what you have is efl CH> in debug mode and this will make efl rather a lot slower as it CH> dumps debug for almost anything it does and will fill up logs. I have debug built efl before, and I have the notes for it. But, I can't remember why I did the debug build, again. Sorry for the trouble. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file)
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file) Message-ID : <20220718121107.4a93f44028412182b7543...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 12:11:07 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 13:54:03 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> > Hello, CH> > CH> > In the Message; CH> > CH> > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file CH> > Message-ID : <20220710100306.1f8ffee16880dcfcceb61...@rasterman.com> CH> > Date & Time: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:03:06 +0100 CH> > CH> > [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> > CH> > [...] CH> > CH> The log files should not be that big unless you have something CH> > CH> creating massive logs because there is some problem it's complaining CH> > CH> about. CH> > CH> > 2380515018 Jul 17 13:33 .e-log.log CH> > CH> > This is the log file after about 7 hours of activation, is it not CH> > MASSIVE? CH> > CH> > $ cat ~/.e-log.log | grep error CH> > CH> > shows 3 types of errors. CH> > CH> > DBG<2633>:eldbus ../src/lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:638 CH> > eldbus_fd_handler_add() Watching fd 24 with flags: [read error] CH> > CH> > DBG<2644>:eina_promise ../src/lib/eina/eina_promise.c:452 CH> > _eina_future_cancel() Cancelling future 0x561140e7d070, cb: CH> > 0x7fb42b6228f0 data: 0x561140e6f530 with error: 125 - msg: 'Operation CH> > canceled' CH> > CH> > DBG<2633>:eldbus ../src/lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:528 CH> > on_get_name_owner() GetNameOwner of bus = org.freedesktop.hostname1 CH> > returned an error CH> > CH> > Is this not a complaint that there is something wrong? CH> Can you paste like maybe the last 5000 lines of your log? trying CH> to get rid of the log file is not the solution. finding out why CH> there is a problem is the solution. I've uploaded it (log.zip); https://drive.google.com/file/d/10FzV5EwE37pC29DbJG7nJuiArpYZ6V7O/view?usp=sharing Regards, --- ┏━━┓彡Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "A bachelor’s degree still holds prestige as a ticket to the middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny. In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt have led more Americans to reconsider an investment in postsecondary education." -- Washington Post -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file)
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file Message-ID : <20220710100306.1f8ffee16880dcfcceb61...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:03:06 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] CH> The log files should not be that big unless you have something CH> creating massive logs because there is some problem it's complaining CH> about. 2380515018 Jul 17 13:33 .e-log.log This is the log file after about 7 hours of activation, is it not MASSIVE? $ cat ~/.e-log.log | grep error shows 3 types of errors. DBG<2633>:eldbus ../src/lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:638 eldbus_fd_handler_add() Watching fd 24 with flags: [read error] DBG<2644>:eina_promise ../src/lib/eina/eina_promise.c:452 _eina_future_cancel() Cancelling future 0x561140e7d070, cb: 0x7fb42b6228f0 data: 0x561140e6f530 with error: 125 - msg: 'Operation canceled' DBG<2633>:eldbus ../src/lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:528 on_get_name_owner() GetNameOwner of bus = org.freedesktop.hostname1 returned an error Is this not a complaint that there is something wrong? Thanks in advance. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file Message-ID : <20220710115518.24bb711750486c0715249...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:55:18 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 19:34:32 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > So, if the .e-log.log file is large, it means that there is something MN> > wrong with my environment. MN> > MN> > Curiously, when _ deletede the .e-log.log and .e-log.log.old, no more MN> > .e-log.log files are created. CH> they are created by enlightenment_start - so you'd have to log in. even if you CH> delete the file.. it still exists and is being appended to. you just can't see CH> it in the directory listing. until e_start closes the file descriptor (by CH> enlightenment itself being re-run in a restart) ... :) I see. So far I haven't noticed any problems, but I'll look in the .e-log.log carefully. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "It should never be said that it is OK to ignore the theoretical as long as it becomes a tool." -- T. Mori (The original is in Japanese) -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file Message-ID : <20220710100306.1f8ffee16880dcfcceb61...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:03:06 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:44:51 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > I have no idea why, but now I want to suppress the log file and would MN> > like to know how to do so. MN> > MN> > Could someone inform me of this? CH> You can't. E always generates the log file. You have to patch the CH> source code to not have it store logs. if you restart E (just CH> restart - not log in and out, though that will do it too) a new CH> log file is created (and the old renamed to .e-log.log.old). The CH> log files should not be that big unless you have something CH> creating massive logs because there is some problem it's CH> complaining about. So, if the .e-log.log file is large, it means that there is something wrong with my environment. Curiously, when _ deletede the .e-log.log and .e-log.log.old, no more .e-log.log files are created. Is this a issue? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to deter from generaring the log file
Hello, I' using the latest efl (1.26.2) and enlightenment (0.25.3) on openSUSE Tumbleweed. Here, I am encountering a strange phenomenon. In other words, different phenomena appear in the enlightenment packages provided by openSUSE and in the self-built packages. 1. In the case of openSUSE-provided packages, After logging in from sddm, the login sound is heard, but often get a black screen. This is only for enlightenment, and does not occur with e16, for example. Here, e16 is provided by openSUSE. 2. In the case of self-built packages, No login problems, but log files (.e-log.log) are generated and become bloated during use. This log file is not generated by the openSUSE-provided package. To avoid the black screen problem and the bloated log file, I compiled and installed the source package provided by openSUSE, but I get the same problem as in #2 above. I have no idea why, but now I want to suppress the log file and would like to know how to do so. Could someone inform me of this? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "In the west, from the time of the Ancient Greeks to the modern day ― from Plato in his cave to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World ― the idea that reality has value, no matter how ugly or unpleasant it might be, has been accepted as an article of faith." -- J. Kelly "What Meta's VR advert tells us about life in the metaverse" -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl Message-ID : <2022015340.9793f1c5222ef7455...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:53:40 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 19:38:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN>> Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the MN>> internet? CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/efl-debug I thought you were talking about one building method with meson. Anyway, thanks. I'll give it a try. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl Message-ID : <20220119103240.7f2dc5561038c3699e047...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:32:40 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> this is the segfault handler... so there is a CH> crash. sometimes things stop for a while while a gdb backtrace is CH> captured. thee days gdb has become very very slow and may take many CH> 0's of seconds to catch the backtrace I can't get the backtrace, at all. [...] CH> does it crash again? if so - what is the backtrace? CH> ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... ? CH> have you tried building efl and e with asan and catching the bug CH> early? Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the internet? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl Message-ID : <20220119103240.7f2dc5561038c3699e047...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:32:40 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > I set it, but only the height doesn't work with the memory function. CH> you mean remembers don't work with size? No, just about the height. CH> it should... perhaps emacs is sending configure requests for size CH> after it maps the window - this will then be an application CH> requested resize later after initial size. you can use locks to CH> LOCK applications from changing their size (e ignores size CH> requests then and enforces its sizing). I think I did that, but I'll try again tomorrow. [...] MN> > 2. Problematic cases MN> > [...] MN> > @ match screens 0x1b76150[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0 MN> > @ matches existing zone 0x1c24a00 MN> >move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160 MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0 MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0 MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0 MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1 MN> > PAUSE ! CH> this is the segfault handler... so there is a CH> crash. sometimes things stop for a while while a gdb backtrace is CH> captured. thee days gdb has become very very slow and may take CH> many 10's of seconds to catch the backtrace Ah, I see. I'll wait patiently, next. [...] MN> > That is, after login operation; MN> > 1. get the log in sound? (<-- I used to think it was an easter egg, MN> > but lately I think it's turned into a login sound!) CH> yes - you logged back in... xorg was killed. new x session :) MN> > 2. But, the enlightenment logo does not appear and the mouse MN> > does not respond. CH> does it crash again? if so - what is the backtrace? ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... ? CH> have you tried building efl and e with asan and catching the bug early? I used to see ~/.e-crashdump.txt a lot, but not anymore. Regards, and Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
Hello, Sorry for late reply. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl Message-ID : <20220112164927.75f90f9a82129fa192a2c...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:49:27 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:02:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> 1. top shouldn't be ignored... unless it conflicts with other options CH> (remembers, keeping windows in the visible area of the screen CH> etc.). You almost definitely should not be configuring this stuff CH> in emacs anyway as this cannot account for screen resolution and CH> size changes, scaling changes, dynamic hot plug of screens and so CH> on. you should definitely use e's remembers for this. it will CH> remember window parameters like size, position etc. relative to CH> screen, virtual desktop and so on and properly handle changes to CH> these like screen resolution changes and so on. Thanks. I set it, but only the height doesn't work with the memory function. So, I wrote in .emacs; (if (boundp 'window-system) (setq initial-frame-alist (append (list ;;'(font . "fontset-16") '(foreground-color . "green3") '(background-color . "black") '(border-color . "gray") '(mouse-color . "white") '(cursor-color . "Blue") '(cursor-type . box) '(menu-bar-lines . 1) '(vertical-scroll-bars . right) '(height . 51) ) CH> 2. i don't know what causes this - is it really black or CH> backlight is just very low/off? there is also it seems at least CH> some kind of bug in the vmware driver where if e also opens input CH> devices the xorg side driver will have lots of double displaying CH> anything to the screen (at the driver end - e renders, CH> screenshotting the results works. xrandr shows everything CH> configured right - just nothing gets shown on screen. perhaps you CH> suffer from this? you can disable the gesture support in e sat CH> compile time in meson options and see if it changes anything? I get the just black screen, not a blacklight. Now, I encounter this phenomenon at least once every two times. I thought there were no logs, but they were recorded; 1. normal case. [...] @ match screens 0x2bb8a70[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0 @ matches existing zone 0x257b450 move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1 DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0 2. Problematic cases [...] @ match screens 0x1b76150[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0 @ matches existing zone 0x1c24a00 move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0 RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1 PAUSE ! DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1 DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0 DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0 X I/O Error - fatal. Exiting <-- this means Ctrl+Alt+Backsopace keys operarion That is, after login operation; 1. get the log in sound? (<-- I used to think it was an easter egg, but lately I think it's turned into a login sound!) 2. But, the enlightenment logo does not appear and the mouse does not respond. then, I press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace keys, and do login operation. I doubted the bluetooth mouse, so replaced it with another bluetooth mouse, or usb mouse, but there were no effect. Any idea? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
Hello, I have 2 questions about the latest enlightenment & efl environment. 1. Position of Emacs In ~/.emacs, I have set up the following for Emacs positioning, (if (boundp 'window-system) (setq initial-frame-alist (append (list ;;'(font . "fontset-16") '(foreground-color . "green3") '(background-color . "black") '(border-color . "gray") '(mouse-color . "white") '(cursor-color . "Blue") '(cursor-type . box) '(menu-bar-lines . 1) '(vertical-scroll-bars . right) '(width . 82) '(height . 51) '(top . 35) '(left . 10) ) In this case, the setting for top is ignored regardless of it's value. Is there a way to reflect the value of top? 2. Login issue Regardless of the login manager, when I try to log in, there is a very high probability (about 30%) that a black screen will appear, and I have to use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to go back and log in again. This has been happening since the Christmas release, but is it specific to my environment? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Christmas releases!
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Christmas releases! Message-ID : <20220101195305.e9478ca30094eb1d0cbb4...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 19:53:05 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 14:06:06 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > Ah, I see. MN> > By removing the ~/.elementary/theme/default.edc, the issue has MN> > solved. MN> > But, the trouble is, I like the Darkconcrete background and the old MN> > dark theme. CH> that would have just been a wallpaper e shipped. i removed the CH> old ones and put new much higher quality ones in now. You can get CH> the file from old packages if you like and make copies. High Quality? In fact, I found it's so nice! This make my computing life is going to be more enjoyable. Sorry, I looked at it for a bit and made a decision. Thanks a lot. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Christmas releases!
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Christmas releases! Message-ID : <20211231232753.cfe391a5a3bd9c5662c93...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 23:27:53 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 06:08:50 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> Oh... that is NOT the default theme. not the new one in efl CH> 1.26. that is the old dark theme. i can only guess something is CH> wrong with your system - you have some copy of dark called CH> default.edj maybe in ~/.elementary/themes and ... it's broken CH> with scaling. Ah, I see. By removing the ~/.elementary/theme/default.edc, the issue has solved. But, the trouble is, I like the Darkconcrete background and the old dark theme. Any idea? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ A young friend of mine sent me an email from London. I asked him about ラーメン in London. He said, it's not good, but expensive. I told him it would be better not to try to cater to British tastes. Aim for the 80th 'A Happy New Year!' :-) ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Christmas releases!
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] Christmas releases! Message-ID : <20211230140458.5b9d52f4bdc35ba2cd90a...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:04:58 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:07:54 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: MN> > Hello, MN> > 1. Before setteing; MN> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bPdaedPv2ZB4gVdbdfsIaeMuuW0lyGI/view?usp=sharing MN> > MN> > 2. After setteing; MN> > MN> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C2ugFxVDDvt68gE_yNuJG2QGaNeEi7ap/view?usp=sharing CH> files are not public... :) Sorry, I set them to the public setteing. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Christmas releases!
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [e-users] Christmas releases! Message-ID : <20211226141135.0668a251a827e58ab1185...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 14:11:35 + [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> I'm going to keep this mail simple. New releases: CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2021-12-26-efl-1.26.0 CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2021-12-26-enlightenment-0.25.0 CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2021-12-26-ecrire-0.2.0 CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2021-12-26-ephoto-1.6.0 CH> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2021-12-26-rage-0.4.0 CH> All released today. Many thanks to whom involved! I'm afraid this is a trivial question. On elementary configuration panel, the text on the menu panel is diffucult to read until I set the theme. 1. Before setteing; https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bPdaedPv2ZB4gVdbdfsIaeMuuW0lyGI/view?usp=sharing 2. After setteing; https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C2ugFxVDDvt68gE_yNuJG2QGaNeEi7ap/view?usp=sharing Is this a phenomenon unique to my environment? Another question. I like the Darkconcrete background, but it's taken away. I'd be happy to have this back.. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20211025175535.b0078726e5d9977a1f365...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:55:35 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:01:15 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH>>> that's an option in terminology you can turn on and off. also for CH>>> all entries in elementary it's also an option - elementary_config CH>>> has options under audio to mute sounds (specific types of sounds CH>>> - you can mute them all if you like). MN>> I know it. MN>> But, I'm not using terminology, but urxvt-256color. MN>> Is this problematic? CH> you should get no key typing noises then... I installed terminology, but I don't get typing noise at all. [...] MN> > $ pactl info MN> > MN> > Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native MN> > Library Protocol Version: 35 MN> > Server Protocol Version: 35 MN> > Is Local: yes MN> > Client Index: 33 MN> > Tile Size: 65472 MN> > User Name: masaru MN> > Host Name: linux-egwc MN> > Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.39) MN> > Server Version: 15.0.0 MN> > Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz MN> > Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right MN> > Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-D___M_Holdings_Inc._HD-DAC1-00.analog-stereo MN> > Default Source: alsa_input.usb-Sony_Corporation_UAB-80-00.mono-fallback MN> > Cookie: 25e8:7f47 MN> > MN> > This produces very nice sounds. MN> > Especially, CH> well .. it does now. before it didn't :) MN> > PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.39) + Audacity (beyond 3.1.0 alapha) + MN> > Hi-Res sound source MN> > MN> > makes marvelous sounds. MN> > MN> > Nevertheless, my system pulseaudio broke? CH> it was... not now :) You think, my issue has gone? I can't think so; 1. revert back to pulseaudio On 'Enter password for root' panel, I get typing noises. My system pulseaudio not broken? 2. On system sound My system sound is above typing noise only. Isn't this strange? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20211025095953.38ddc92432b4c6f76e96e...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:59:53 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:59:58 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> Hmmm... any replies? Might need to poke him but it sounds like CH> it's been solved below. Sorry, I can't think so. CH> > Anyway, I get a system sound, a little bit. CH> > CH> > That is, I typed by mistake; CH> > CH> > $ systemctl daemon-reload CH> > CH> > then appeared "Password for root" panel, then I entered root's password. CH> > Wow, every key openration makes sound! CH> that's an option in terminology you can turn on and off. also for CH> all entries in elementary it's also an option - elementary_config CH> has options under audio to mute sounds (specific types of sounds CH> - you can mute them all if you like). I know it. But, I'm not using terminology, but urxvt-256color. Is this problematic? CH> > Moreover, mouse operation on emixer made sounds as well, but it no CH> > sound now CH> > CH> > Is this give you any clue? CH> some daemon did not start or started badly i guess - something beyond e's CH> control. Uhm ., CH> > [What I did] CH> > CH> > I upgraded pipeware from 0.3.38 to from 0.3.39. CH> > CH> > I always install the vary latest efl & enlightenment. CH> I can only guess something with your system pulseaudio broke. $ pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 33 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: masaru Host Name: linux-egwc Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.39) Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-D___M_Holdings_Inc._HD-DAC1-00.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_input.usb-Sony_Corporation_UAB-80-00.mono-fallback Cookie: 25e8:7f47 This produces very nice sounds. Especially, PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.39) + Audacity (beyond 3.1.0 alapha) + Hi-Res sound source makes marvelous sounds. Nevertheless, my system pulseaudio broke? To tell you the truth, no system sounds doesn't a matter. No problem with my system is the matter for me. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" . "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed with the git head of efl
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed with the git head of efl Message-ID : <20211025100036.bb518a35c00e49644b33b...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 10:00:36 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:37:02 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> I just fixed it in git. Confirmed. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, PS. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <87k0i1eou9.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:59:58 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: MN> Hello, MN> In the Message; MN> Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? MN> Message-ID : <20210707120741.b0790e2d2a9b6f1d59a72...@rasterman.com> MN> Date & Time: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:07:41 +0100 MN> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] MN> I upgraded pipeware from 0.3.38 to from 0.3.39. I could not fully replace with pipewire. That is, my installations are; pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.39 libpulse0-15.0 pulseaudio-bash-completion-15.0 pulseaudio-zsh-completion-15.0-lp153.55.1.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-15.0-lp153.55.1.x86_64 libpulse0-32bit-14.2-4.2.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-15.0-lp153.55.1.x86_64 libpulse-devel-15.0-lp153.55.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-0.3.39 pipewire-media-session-0.4.0 pipewire-modules-0.3.39 pipewire-devel-0.3.39 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.39 pipewire-lang-0.3.39 libpipewire-0_3-0-0.3.39 pipewire-alsa-0.3.39 pipewire-0.3.39 pipewire-tools-0.3.39 pipewire-libjack-0_3-0.3.39 gstreamer-plugin-pipewire-0.3.39 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-0.3.39 pipewire-media-session-lang-0.4.0 Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed with the git head of efl
2524800 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2524720 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2508330 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25302c0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x252fe10 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x252ff00 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x252fff0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25300e0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25301d0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2502a90 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25029a0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25026d0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2502560 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25023d0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25022e0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25021b0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x25020c0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2501ea0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2501f90 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2501cf0 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x2501c00 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x24fe100 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:289 eina_mempool_del() mp=0x24fe020 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:169 eina_mempool_unregister() be=0x7f8d4c7ea300, name=0x7f8d4c5c40d1 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:169 eina_mempool_unregister() be=0x7f8d4c7ea360, name=0x7f8d4c5d2db2 DBG<10679>:eina_mempool ../src/lib/eina/eina_mempool.c:169 eina_mempool_unregister() be=0x7f8d4c7ea3c0, name=0x7f8d4c5cbe9c DBG<10679>:eina_module ../src/lib/eina/eina_module.c:588 eina_module_list_free() array 0x24dbd00, count 0 Summary: Wrote 1807 collections Wrote 1783 images Wrote 10 sounds Wrote 0 fonts ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. Found runner: ['/usr/bin/ninja'] error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Ix4jRC (%build) With this log, I changed one of meson's option; -Dbuild-examples=true ---> -Dbuild-examples=false This solved my issue. But, as you know, there exist no change in src/examples directory. Have I any problem in my environment? My environment; 1. OS : openSUSE Leap 15.3 (x86_74) 2. Memory : 32 GB 3. meson : 0.56.2 4. ninja : 1.10.2 Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20210707120741.b0790e2d2a9b6f1d59a72...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:07:41 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 19:42:06 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> Maybe simotek knows as this is suse ... Is he well? I've not received his reply about this sound issue report on bugzilla. Anyway, I get a system sound, a little bit. That is, I typed by mistake; $ systemctl daemon-reload then appeared "Password for root" panel, then I entered root's password. Wow, every key openration makes sound! Moreover, mouse operation on emixer made sounds as well, but it no sound now Is this give you any clue? [What I did] I upgraded pipeware from 0.3.38 to from 0.3.39. I always install the vary latest efl & enlightenment. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, said earlier this year that he would not let his nephew join social networks. Bill Gates banned cellphone until his children were teenagers, and Melinda Gates wrote that she wished they had waited even longer. Steve Jobs would not let his young children near iPads." -- The New York Times -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists
Hello, Sorry for late reply. I've been sutudysing in accordance with your advice. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists Message-ID : <20210823092101.b8d757c7c00edd3c6cbb8...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:21:01 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> Ummm look at this thread. CH> When windows are "hidden" (iconified, window on another virtual desktop etc.) CH> enlightenment will set the: CH> _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN [...] CH> Notice that the property appears while it's iconified and goes away when not. CH> You commented out the code in E that modifies this property (adds it and CH> removes it). The fact that this property is not set at all anymore points to CH> code in emacs somewhere that is responding to this property change and then CH> stops rendering, but when the property goes away it doesn't START rendering CH> again. Now, I fully understand the debugging method. Thanks, a lot! The comitter showd a patch, I'll check it. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists
Hello, Just like an errand. (^^;; In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists Message-ID : <20210821072303.ead4637113305e2e51893...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:23:03 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:55:37 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> It doesn't handle the hidden state changes properly and chooses CH> to not render updates. :) But you can now tell them what the bug is. I posted, but the committer can't understand. Says with irony; >> Could you please ask the developer what the bug really is? Which are >> the hidden changes and in which sense do we not render updates? What >> should we do better? >> Thank you for any enlightenment in this area. So sorry, but how can I do? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists Message-ID : <20210821072303.ead4637113305e2e51893...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:23:03 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:55:37 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] MN> > Fixed! MN> > MN> > Many, many thanks, indeed. CH> This is not a fix. it is a test. You have an emacs bug. It CH> doesn't handle the hidden state changes properly and chooses to CH> not render updates. :) But you can now tell them what the bug is. I'll report this, soon. Thanks!! --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Three young men died for Rationalization. Yet, Margaret Bloody Thatcher LIVES!" 'Brassed Off' ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] emacs problem persists Message-ID : <20210820223253.b1d45376c2a8715c9ac2c...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:32:53 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] CK> > This is with emacs 27.1, as packaged in 1:27.1+1-3ubuntu3. CH> well to rule out it being the hidden property. CH> src/bin/e_hints.c CH> line 613 + 614. these: CH> if (ec->netwm.state.hidden) CH> state[num++] = ECORE_X_WINDOW_STATE_HIDDEN; CH> comment those out. like: CH> // if (ec->netwm.state.hidden) CH> // state[num++] = ECORE_X_WINDOW_STATE_HIDDEN; CH> and rebuild and see. Fixed! Many, many thanks, indeed. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] emacs problem persists
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject: Re: [e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot
panel
Message-ID : <87y298jnlu.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp>
Date & Time: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 19:13:17 +0900
[MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written:
[...]
MN> My issue seeems to occur with my hardware problem.
MN> That is, I'm using the PS/2 USB conversion adapter for my keyboard.
MN> It's wired no matter how it often requires the "taking out and putting
MN> in of USB connection" operation.
MN> I'll change the adapter.
I's this!
Sorry for the noise.
BTW.
Still now, emacs problem persists;
1. Emacs built with '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' option DOES shrink.
2. Emacs built with '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' never shrinked, but got
another problem. That is, Emacs got a quasi freeze since May 8th.
I reported this issue to the bug-gnu-emacs ML, and yesterday was
suggested to check my WM. That's it. The git head of enlightenment is
causing the problem, I found.
Then, I try to dig out the cause, and detected.
The triiger of this issue is;
commit 483c5e953c12a95382bef4a3b6769a680c32fe86
Author: Martin Rudalics
Date: Wed May 5 10:26:32 2021 +0200
Fix two GTK3 event handling issues
* src/xterm.c (handle_one_xevent): For GTK3 PropertyNotify and
MapNotify events explicitly request the stored frame sizes when
the frame changes from iconified to a non-hidden state
(Bug#24526). For Expose events do not change the frame's
visibility or iconified state. For FocusIn events on GTK3 do
not apply the fix for Bug#42655. The latter two changes are to
avoid that plain invisible frames get reported as iconified.
That is, this patch is the cause.
--- xterm.c.orig2021-05-16 11:13:56.013376500 +0900
+++ xterm.c 2021-08-19 16:17:49.823963974 +0900
@@ -8181,12 +8181,8 @@
#if defined USE_GTK && defined HAVE_GTK3
/* If GTK3 wants to impose some old size here (Bug#24526),
tell it that the current size is what we want. */
- if (f->was_invisible)
- {
- xg_frame_set_char_size
- (f, FRAME_PIXEL_WIDTH (f), FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f));
- f->was_invisible = false;
- }
+ xg_frame_set_char_size
+ (f, FRAME_PIXEL_WIDTH (f), FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f));
#endif
XSETFRAME (inev.ie.frame_or_window, f);
}
@@ -8447,12 +8443,8 @@
#if defined USE_GTK && defined HAVE_GTK3
/* If GTK3 wants to impose some old size here (Bug#24526),
tell it that the current size is what we want. */
- if (f->was_invisible)
- {
- xg_frame_set_char_size
- (f, FRAME_PIXEL_WIDTH (f), FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f));
- f->was_invisible = false;
- }
+ xg_frame_set_char_size
+ (f, FRAME_PIXEL_WIDTH (f), FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f));
#endif
f->output_data.x->has_been_visible = true;
}
@@ -9343,11 +9335,6 @@
goto OTHER;
case VisibilityNotify:
- f = x_top_window_to_frame (dpyinfo, event->xvisibility.window);
- if (f && (event->xvisibility.state == VisibilityUnobscured
- || event->xvisibility.state == VisibilityPartiallyObscured))
- SET_FRAME_VISIBLE (f, 1);
-
goto OTHER;
case MappingNotify:
@@ -9604,12 +9591,11 @@
/* The foreground of cursor_gc is typically the same as the normal
background color, which can cause the cursor box to be invisible. */
xgcv.foreground = f->output_data.x->cursor_pixel;
- xgcv.line_width = 1;
if (dpyinfo->scratch_cursor_gc)
-XChangeGC (dpy, dpyinfo->scratch_cursor_gc, GCForeground | GCLineWidth,
);
+XChangeGC (dpy, dpyinfo->scratch_cursor_gc, GCForeground, );
else
dpyinfo->scratch_cursor_gc = XCreateGC (dpy, FRAME_X_DRAWABLE (f),
- GCForeground | GCLineWidth, );
+ GCForeground, );
gc = dpyinfo->scratch_cursor_gc;
/* When on R2L character, show cursor at the right edge of the
Does this give you any clue?
Regards.
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Re: [e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot panel
Hello, Thank you for reply. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot panel Message-ID : <20210811082918.a52fc7d59ee44fbabce7e...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 08:29:18 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:15:23 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: [...] CH> > Any hint? CH> No - other than they key binding or navigating through the menus both byt CH> either doing that action or perhaps faking a key press in software... that's CH> the only path/way to get the screenshot to appear (or adding bindings for other CH> keys that also do a screenshot. example: CH> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-61137c2a3c3351.69765578.jpg CH> (that's the printscreen key binding). Just same as mine. My issue seeems to occur with my hardware problem. That is, I'm using the PS/2 USB conversion adapter for my keyboard. It's wired no matter how it often requires the "taking out and putting in of USB connection" operation. I'll change the adapter. Anyway, Thanks a lot! Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot panel
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot panel Message-ID : <20210809191902.63f6da8ac899ae5c2be5a...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 19:19:02 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Mon, 09 Aug 2021 22:57:50 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: MN> > Often, the screenshot panel (which says, 'Select action to take with MN> > screenshot') appears, which brings with disabling the keyboard input. MN> > In this case, I must do 'taking out and putting in' of USB connection MN> > of my keyboard. CH> That ... has nothing to do with keyboard input other than regular CH> focus policy that window may be becoming focused as it's a new CH> window. MN> > I can't dig out the cause of this phenomenon, but it's really MN> > annoying. MN> > Could you inform me of the avoiding method? CH> Remove bindings? Probably you are pressing "PrintScr" (print screen) which is CH> bound to take screenshots by default. that's the only key bound to this. CH> otherwise it's in e's main menu and the window menu for app windows to select CH> there. I doubted the key binding, but I don't think so. As I assigning the screenshot function to the print screen key. I'm observing the phenomenon closely, but I couldn't the regukarity, rather it occures randomly. In many case, I get it when using emacs for file editting operations. I build emacs with this options; ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --without-xim --prefix=/usr/local --without-sound --build=x86_64-openSUSE-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-openSUSE-linux-gnu --with-modules --with-mailutils --without-libsystemd --with-gconf --with-imagemagick --with-harfbuzz --with-json --with-xwidgets Any hint? Regards, --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" . "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How to prevent the sudden appear of screenshot panel
Hello, I'm using git heads of efl and enlightenment. Often, the screenshot panel (which says, 'Select action to take with screenshot') appears, which brings with disabling the keyboard input. In this case, I must do 'taking out and putting in' of USB connection of my keyboard. I can't dig out the cause of this phenomenon, but it's really annoying. Could you inform me of the avoiding method? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] enlightenment make smaller emacs every operation
Hello, I've not got the answer about my system sound problem frm the openSUSE Maintanier. Anyway. In the Message; Subject: [e-users] enlightenment make smaller emacs every operation Message-ID : <87bln4phe0.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Mon, 04 May 2020 11:23:51 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: MN> Hello, MN> I've installed efl 1.23.3 and enlightenmet 0.23.1 from the openSUSE MN> Leap 15.1 repository after about 10 years. MN> On these, when I use the Wanderlust, which is a MUA based on Emacs, MN> every mail retrieval operation makes Emacs smaller. MN> Then I tested, and found that this phenomenon appear since MN> enlightenment 0.22.0. MN> So, I use the enlightenment 0.21.9, at the moment. MN> This issue is same in case of gnus, works on Emacs, I think. This problem was solved for the emacs built with --x-toolikit=gkt3. But, it still remains for the emacs built with --x-toolkit=lucid. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, Sorry, for not respondig for a long time. Because, I thoght, my issue might be caused by openSUSE's security policy. So, I posted my issue to openSUSE's users mailing list, then bugzilla. But, I've not got any answer, still now. Anyway, I understood, the system sounds works after installing enlightenment, just like like PnP. Is this right? Today, I can get the login souns as follows; 1. winthin settings wigdets, I addes 'pulseaudio' to startup application 2, edited the file 'startup.sh' in /etc/profile.d/ like this; ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/service-login.oga Then, I get the login sound. But, it's the only system sound. I'm wondering, I've not solved my problem. Any hints? Thanks, % Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, I rebooted, but no sounds from e. In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20210626234417.9f9757fe0a5a34e230529...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:44:17 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] MN> > But, it's a mystery for me. MN> > Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me ? CH> I don't know. All I can think of was pulseaduio not running (as CH> your user - not as root or some other user). All Enlightenment CH> does is talk to the pulseaudio daemon using libpluse - like you CH> use xlib to talk to the xserver. I can fully understand wha you mean, I think. But, pulsedaemon does always run just after booting. Because, 1. After booting, I can always hear the switching on sound of mu USB DAC. 2. I always begin the PC operation with starting music via audacious. One question. As a root, accessing to pulseaudio is always denied ; # aplay /home/masaru/wav/Track\ 2.wav XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! (This could e.g. happen if you try to connect to a non-root PulseAudio as a root user, over the native protocol. Don't do that.) ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access denied aplay: main:831: audio open error: Connection refused Is this phenomena within your expectations? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, Good Morning! In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20210626165027.0f8d446407232a45180fe...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 16:50:27 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] MN> > Another incomprehensible... MN> > Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock MN> > boxes), I can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour? CH> i see no attached image... :( Ah, it's removed. I found, the part, I mentioned. is the 'audio spectrum'. But, it's a mystery for me. Why the pulseaudio's settings problem is specific to me .... ? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "No Windows, no gains!" . "Why, I am wrong?" -- Bill -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Solved! (Was: Re: How can I get system sounds?)
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <875yy0hdsn.wl-nom...@galaxy.dti.ne.jp> Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:59:52 +0900 [MN] == Masaru Nomiya has written: [...] MN> Another incomprehensible... MN> Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock boxes), I MN> can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour? By changing the settings of pulseaudio via pavucontrol, I get sounds. Sorry to bother you. Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20210626144355.07aa15df635cf54e1ced9...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:43:55 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: [...] CH> > But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure CH> > like this; CH> > CH> > $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service CH> > Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited with CH> > error code. See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and "journalctl CH> > --user -xe" for details. CH> > CH> > Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before. CH> > Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running. CH> > CH> > I've never experienced this until now. CH> > CH> > Could you inform me of what happens? CH> I don't know. enlightenment just uses libpulse and pa library functions to talk CH> to pulseaudio. this will have nothing to do with efl and it's just CH> enlightenment doing this directly. I see. Reboot solve the strange issue. But, no sound. Another incomprehensible... Of a attached pic, the bottom part (under the Mute, and Lock boxes), I can't operate at all. Is this right behaviour? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan --___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, I'm deeply impressed by your stylistic styles. I remind of a nice man in Sheffied. Anyway, In the Message; Subject: Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds? Message-ID : <20210626092706.e622aa4aa6212a79dee0b...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 09:27:06 +0100 [CH] == Carsten Haitzler has written: CH> On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:27:27 +0900 Masaru Nomiya said: CH> > Hello, CH> > CH> > I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments; CH> > [...] CH> > CH> >PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11. CH> we no longer support xine. most of the above options are also defaults. CH> disabling gstreamer1 though has disabled emotion video support. it won't work CH> at all now. so video previews in e's file manager won't work, video wallpapers CH> won't work. CH> https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git#n65 CH> those are the simple options i use when building the arch efl-git package. CH> ephysics has been disabled now by default (and no one has CH> complained beyond the [...] CH> needed for e to make it's mixer work. this audio support in efl enables CH> ecore_audio lib api that allows edje (and any app using it) to make sounds. e CH> will by default enable the mixer and pulseaudio support. it uses libpulse to CH> talk to pulseaudio and what you see int he gui is what pulseaudio tells e to CH> show (what devices exist - the volume and so on). so my guess is pulseaudio is CH> not running for some reason. Thanks! Accordingly, I compiled the git efl. But, no sounds ... CH> > With this, I chacked CH> > CH> > 1. Emixer [...] CH> > CH> > What's wrong with me, I wonder (_ _? CH> > CH> > Any other Tips? CH> > CH> > Thanks. CH> is pulseaudio not running? pulseaudio Certainly. In fact, I could enjoy musics, videos, via audacious, vlc, mpd, etc. But strangely, after installing the new efl It turn into a failure like this; $ systemctl --user start pulseaudio.service Job for pulseaudio.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service" and "journalctl --user -xe" for details. Nevertheless, I can enjoy multimedias, as before. Yes, pulseaudio daemon in running. I've never experienced this until now. Could you inform me of what happens? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money." ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] How can I get system sounds?
Hello, I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments; 1. OS : openSUSE Leap 15.3 RC (x86_64) 2. kernel : 5.12.13-1.1-default 3. Sound Card : Device [D & M Holdings Inc. HD-DAC1] on usb-:00:14.0-9/input2 4. sound driver : usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio 5. Alsa : alsa-1.2.5.1-lp153.350.1.x86_64 6. pulseaudio : pulseaudio-14.99.2-lp153.53.5.x86_64 7. compilation options of efl : meson \ -Dphysics=true \ -Devas-loaders-disabler=pdf,webp \ -Dharfbuzz=true \ -Dxinput22=true \ -Demotion-loaders-disabler=gstreamer,gstreamer1,libvlc \ -Dsystemd=true \ -Dfb=true \ -Ddrm=true \ -Dwl=true \ -Dopengl=es-egl \ -Daudio=true \ -Dedje-sound-and-video=true \ -Dpulseaudio=true \ -Dv4l2=true \ -Dbuild-examples=true \ -Dbuild-tests=true PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11. With this, I chacked 1. Emixer ? 1. playback panel displays nothing. 2. enlightenmet_config ? 2. Audio panel diplays only mute buttons. Nevertheless, I can't get system sounds at all. What's wrong with me, I wonder (_ _? Any other Tips? Thanks. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think. -- The IBM slogan -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
