Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[N7BCP]

As a "Legacy" app.

-Larry

On 08.03.2012, at 20:52, Dave Gomberg  wrote:

> If Flex ever needed a compelling reason to support Linux for PSDR, this may 
> be it:
> 
> http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/a-windows-veteran-looks-at-win8-consumer-preview/#story1
> 
> How will PSDR run in Windows 8???  As an app?   Good luck.
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[James Austin]

It will run the same way as it does now, existing software will continue to
function.

Jim KA2RVO

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dave Gomberg  wrote:

> If Flex ever needed a compelling reason to support Linux for PSDR, this
> may be it:
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/**newsletter/a-windows-veteran-**
> looks-at-win8-consumer-**preview/#story1
>
> How will PSDR run in Windows 8???  As an app?   Good luck.
>
>
>
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[Flexradio] Linux

[Dave Gomberg]

If Flex ever needed a compelling reason to support Linux for PSDR, 
this may be it:


http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/a-windows-veteran-looks-at-win8-consumer-preview/#story1

How will PSDR run in Windows 8???  As an app?   Good luck.



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux take up in hte Ham radio world.

[Neal Campbell]

One thing to do (I do) is run linux in a vm under Windows or OS X. Its not a
perfect solution but better than being completely cut off!


Neal Campbell
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Steven L Hess  wrote:

> Well I can dream of being able to stay in Linux and use my Flex 3000.
> When I boot to Windows XP I lose my email access, ability to transfer
> files across my network, access to most of my IRC sessions, all my
> bookmarked URLs and local files. Windows is pretty crippled for me. I
> can only wait until I can build a Box that runs SDR and Hamradio apps in
> a  Microsoft environment  and add it to my KVM.  Seeing how small a
> share of the OS market Linux has I don't see people exporting lots of
> Ham radio applications to it. As most ham radio stuff is payware and
> donationware. Linux is not an attractive environment for most Amateur
> Radio software authors as it is pretty much a freeware environment. Some
> have said "never" about Linux ports.
>
> Steven
>
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[Flexradio] Linux take up in hte Ham radio world.

[Steven L Hess]

Well I can dream of being able to stay in Linux and use my Flex 3000.
When I boot to Windows XP I lose my email access, ability to transfer
files across my network, access to most of my IRC sessions, all my
bookmarked URLs and local files. Windows is pretty crippled for me. I
can only wait until I can build a Box that runs SDR and Hamradio apps in
a  Microsoft environment  and add it to my KVM.  Seeing how small a
share of the OS market Linux has I don't see people exporting lots of
Ham radio applications to it. As most ham radio stuff is payware and
donationware. Linux is not an attractive environment for most Amateur
Radio software authors as it is pretty much a freeware environment. Some
have said "never" about Linux ports.

Steven

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PL 103.5 or 443.900 + PL 100.


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Journal covers amateur radio

[kb5my]

...and if only the N1MM folks would abandon the Microsoft development
environment in favor of a cross-platform environment and follow suit. 
Sigh...

73,
Dan  KB5MY

> Looking forward to the day I can use my Flex on Ubuntu or something of
> that sort, I don't think I'd need to ever log back into windows again.
>
>
>
> 
> 73
> N4BFD
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> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Bob McGwier 
> wrote:
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>> ARRL Website refers to Linux Journal:  http://bit.ly/4Xce6q
>>
>> 73's
>> Bob
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Journal covers amateur radio

[Jesse N4BFD]

Looking forward to the day I can use my Flex on Ubuntu or something of that
sort, I don't think I'd need to ever log back into windows again.




73
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[Flexradio] Linux Journal covers amateur radio

[Bob McGwier]

ARRL Website refers to Linux Journal:  http://bit.ly/4Xce6q

73's
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux and PoweSDR

[Frank Brickle]

If you have a sufficiently beefy machine, with virtualization and
multicores, you might be able to get somewhere using kvm. In that case
you're actually going to be running Windows and Linux both. For ever and aye
the main obstacle is going to be the sound subsystem and the audio hardware,
unless some clever person provides a networked audio adapter on the Windows
side that plugs in without modification.

I shudder to think what happens when you start trying to match up with other
apps using VAC and vCOM :-)

73
Frank
AB2KT

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Kirk.Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I'm (attempting) to facilitate operation of v1.12.0 using a GNU/Debian OS
> (Ubuntu, PCLinux, Knoppix, SuSE and a couple of others) with Wine as an
> emulator.  Needless to say, implementation results have been poor at best.
> I've had good luck with programs such as IP-Sound and a few others but not
> PowerSDR. I'm wondering if others have tried to do this?  I've not tried
> any
> other emulator but occasionally see reference to VM.  (It's not free and
> I'm
> cheap, so don't want to buy it)!!  I know effort is afoot to create
> PowerSDR
> in language (Erlang, Lisp, et al) which will support cross platform
> operation.  You're probably saying, "Just use XP and be happy!  And, I am
> happy with this.  Matter of fact, it works great.  However, I can't leave
> well enough alone.  So I'm off on exploration.
>
> Any thought?
>
>
>
> Regards,
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>
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[Flexradio] Linux and PoweSDR

[Kirk.Harding]

Greetings,

 

I'm (attempting) to facilitate operation of v1.12.0 using a GNU/Debian OS
(Ubuntu, PCLinux, Knoppix, SuSE and a couple of others) with Wine as an
emulator.  Needless to say, implementation results have been poor at best.
I've had good luck with programs such as IP-Sound and a few others but not
PowerSDR. I'm wondering if others have tried to do this?  I've not tried any
other emulator but occasionally see reference to VM.  (It's not free and I'm
cheap, so don't want to buy it)!!  I know effort is afoot to create PowerSDR
in language (Erlang, Lisp, et al) which will support cross platform
operation.  You're probably saying, "Just use XP and be happy!  And, I am
happy with this.  Matter of fact, it works great.  However, I can't leave
well enough alone.  So I'm off on exploration.  

Any thought?

 

Regards,

 

Kirk, K6KAR

Niceville, FL

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux driver(s) for Edirol FA-66 Soundcard

[John Melton]

Hi Chuck,

I have an FA-66 running on Linux.

I am running it using Jack configured to use freebob driver.

What software are you trying to use?

Regards,

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> Does anyone on this reflector use the FA-66 with Linux?
> Need help setting up driver.
> 
> 73
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[Flexradio] Linux driver(s) for Edirol FA-66 Soundcard

[Chuck Mayfield]

Does anyone on this reflector use the FA-66 with Linux?
Need help setting up driver.

73
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[Chuck Mayfield]

Mike,
How does 'FREE' work for you?  Ubuntu 7.1 is easy to use.  Kubuntu is 
almost the same as Windoze for the user.  It comes with Thunderbird, 
Firefox, Open Office and many more applications.  If you have 
broadband internet you can download Ubuntu 7.1, or if not, the folks 
at Ubuntu will send you a FREE CD.  Happy New year.

Regards,
Chuck AA5J

At 03:30 PM 1/2/2008, MICHAEL FREEDMAN wrote:
>I am watching all the info on Linux passing across the Flex 
>reflector.  I have no time to bvegin to learn another computer 
>language but I would not mind getting Linux woreking on a spare 
>machine . What is the simplest approach for a lazy neophyte to get 
>up and running on Linux? What software shoould I start with ?  I 
>would like to at least be able to surf the net and perhaps do word 
>processing. I do NOT mind buying a Linux package of software if it 
>will be usefil because it has a lot of startup programs.  I am out 
>to max my initial efforts  and like I said, I don't mind spending 
>money to do so if it will be of benefit now and down the road. Any 
>help appreciated.
>
>Mike VE3BGE


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[Ed Russell]

Based on Lee's good experience with Ubuntu I gave it a try this 
morning. I installed it in a VM running under Vista, and also as a 
dual boot on an XP machine. Both went very smoothly. I highly 
recommend this.

You can download Ubuntu from:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors

That will give you an ISO image which you burn to a CD, boot to it, 
and follow instructions. It will automatically set up multiple boot 
if you have other installs on the machine. Just watch out for the 
choice of install disk.

If you want to run it in (free) microsoft virtual PC 2007 you will 
need to follow the instructions here:

http://arcanecode.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/installing-ubuntu-710-
under-virtual-pc-2007/

73 Ed W2RF


On 2 Jan 2008 at 13:30, MICHAEL FREEDMAN wrote:

> I am watching all the info on Linux passing across the Flex reflector.  I 
> have no time to bvegin to learn another computer language but I would not 
> mind getting Linux woreking on a spare machine . What is the simplest 
> approach for a lazy neophyte to get up and running on Linux? What software 
> shoould I start with ?  I would like to at least be able to surf the net and 
> perhaps do word processing. I do NOT mind buying a Linux package of software 
> if it will be usefil because it has a lot of startup programs.  I am out to 
> max my initial efforts  and like I said, I don't mind spending money to do so 
> if it will be of benefit now and down the road. Any help appreciated.
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[Bob Tracy]

Mike,

Try Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download.  Works very well and
has some nice built-in tools.  Easy to install.

73,

Bob K5KDN

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I am watching all the info on Linux passing across the Flex reflector.  I
have no time to bvegin to learn another computer language but I would not
mind getting Linux woreking on a spare machine . What is the simplest
approach for a lazy neophyte to get up and running on Linux? What software
shoould I start with ?  I would like to at least be able to surf the net and
perhaps do word processing. I do NOT mind buying a Linux package of software
if it will be usefil because it has a lot of startup programs.  I am out to
max my initial efforts  and like I said, I don't mind spending money to do
so if it will be of benefit now and down the road. Any help appreciated.

Mike VE3BGE
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[Flexradio] Linux

[MICHAEL FREEDMAN]

I am watching all the info on Linux passing across the Flex reflector.  I have 
no time to bvegin to learn another computer language but I would not mind 
getting Linux woreking on a spare machine . What is the simplest approach for a 
lazy neophyte to get up and running on Linux? What software shoould I start 
with ?  I would like to at least be able to surf the net and perhaps do word 
processing. I do NOT mind buying a Linux package of software if it will be 
usefil because it has a lot of startup programs.  I am out to max my initial 
efforts  and like I said, I don't mind spending money to do so if it will be of 
benefit now and down the road. Any help appreciated.

Mike VE3BGE
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux question

[Chris Maukonen]

Edward J White wrote:
> Hi Gang:
> Once again I have to reach into the vast knowledge of the group for info.
> I have built up a new computer  for the FLEX-5000 with TWO HD one for XP the 
> other for Ubuntu Linux.My plan is to have the computer ask what drive to go 
> to XP or Ubuntu. (Question how do I set that up?) I also want to run duel 
> monitors.
> Formatting the new HD for XP no problem but what about formatting the other 
> HD for Ubuntu?
> I plan to put Ubuntu on latter  ( when I figure what I have to do to get it 
> working) . 
> All this is so I can run some of the WSJT on EME latter this year after I 
> have time to see Joe's K1JT and his super WSJT set up.
> I am assuming that we are going to use XP for a long time and not the Vista.
> Any help will be great and thank you for supporting the SDR craze.
> Ed
> WA3BZT

Ed,

My experience is this. I set up the exact situation a while back. The 
thing you need to watch out for is that XP wants to "own" all the
drives on your system. So you need to do one of two things. Either
load XP first and note which drive you want as you XP system drive,
then load linux.

Or disconnect the linux drive when you install XP. I am not sure
about Ubuntu, but I believe the install will as which drive you want
to use and format that one for you. (I used Fedora..Now I have an
Apple and run OS X and use remote desktop to the XP box for SDR.)

As far as dual boot goes, someone else will have to help you on that
as I did not use that feature in either system. I simple set my bios
to prompt for which drive I wanted to boot.

WA4CM
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux question

[Eric Wachsmann]

This is how both my home and work machines are setup (dual boot with primary
running Windows XP and secondary running Ubuntu Linux).  My only comments
are to load Windows first.  Then Ubuntu will handle loading grub (the boot
manager) and everything seems to play very nicely.

We will be supporting PowerSDR on Vista where we can (this does not include
the USB Adapter due to driver issues).  Having said that, if given a choice
today, I would choose XP over Vista for an SDR machine.


Eric Wachsmann
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> To: SDR-1000
> Cc: Joe Taylor K1JT
> Subject: [Flexradio] Linux question
> 
> Hi Gang:
> Once again I have to reach into the vast knowledge of the group for info.
> I have built up a new computer  for the FLEX-5000 with TWO HD one for XP
> the other for Ubuntu Linux.My plan is to have the computer ask what drive
> to go to XP or Ubuntu. (Question how do I set that up?) I also want to run
> duel monitors.
> Formatting the new HD for XP no problem but what about formatting the
> other HD for Ubuntu?
> I plan to put Ubuntu on latter  ( when I figure what I have to do to get
> it working) .
> All this is so I can run some of the WSJT on EME latter this year after I
> have time to see Joe's K1JT and his super WSJT set up.
> I am assuming that we are going to use XP for a long time and not the
> Vista.
> Any help will be great and thank you for supporting the SDR craze.
> Ed
> WA3BZT


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[Flexradio] Linux question

[Edward J White]

Hi Gang:
Once again I have to reach into the vast knowledge of the group for info.
I have built up a new computer  for the FLEX-5000 with TWO HD one for XP the 
other for Ubuntu Linux.My plan is to have the computer ask what drive to go to 
XP or Ubuntu. (Question how do I set that up?) I also want to run duel monitors.
Formatting the new HD for XP no problem but what about formatting the other HD 
for Ubuntu?
I plan to put Ubuntu on latter  ( when I figure what I have to do to get it 
working) . 
All this is so I can run some of the WSJT on EME latter this year after I have 
time to see Joe's K1JT and his super WSJT set up.
I am assuming that we are going to use XP for a long time and not the Vista.
Any help will be great and thank you for supporting the SDR craze.
Ed
WA3BZT
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux

[Tim Ellison]

Linux version of what? 


-Tim

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Does the linux version care which version of ubuntu is used??

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[Flexradio] Linux

[Jim McLester]

Does the linux version care which version of ubuntu is used??

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux on TeamSpeak tonight?

[n4xwe]

Hi Cecil,

There is an SDR Linux User Group meeting every Thursday night at 0200Z (Friday) 
until further notice.

73,

Dan N4XWE



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Subject: [Flexradio] Linux on TeamSpeak tonight?

I have not heard, is there a Linux get together this evening on TeamSpeak?

Cecil Bayona
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[Flexradio] Linux on TeamSpeak tonight?

[kd5nwa]

I have not heard, is there a Linux get together this evening on TeamSpeak?

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux User Group on Teamspeak

[n4xwe]

Hi Jim,

It is just like the Flex-Radio Friends Friday night session except it is 24 
hours earlier.

73,

Dan

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Does this group meet on the Flex-Radio Friends channel or is there another
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[Flexradio] Linux User Group on Teamspeak

[Jim, W4ATK]

Does this group meet on the Flex-Radio Friends channel or is there 
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Frank Brickle]

On 2/7/07, Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...However, market realities (90% of users use windows,
> etc.) mean that the allocation of development resources might push
> towards the MS platform, just to accomodate the majority...


It's inevitable that there will be a split between the Windows and other
versions.

Clearly a lot of the appeal of the SDR-1000 for many users is the user
interface, and the way it consolidates many old and new features that people
have wanted and are learning to want. I don't think the point has been lost
on Flex that this is where the growth market lies.

My own belief is that this is an ignis fatuus, however. All Icom or Yaesu or
Ten-Tec have to do is open up some hooks to their radios via USB or ethernet
and the technological advantage that Flex currently has will disappear in a
matter of weeks, as far as the SuperConsole is concerned. This avenue will,
as you aptly point out, satisfy perfectly the needs of many if not most of
the new-buyer population.

The long-term advantage of SDR lies not in the "better" UI but in things
that SDR can do that more conventional radios cannot. Some of these things
are in the UI domain, many of them aren't. They're largely orthogonal to the
SuperConsole, and they're going to happen outside the main economic lifeline
for Flex, I'm afraid.

Hence the inevitability of the split.

73
Frank
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Frank Brickle]

Oh, one other thing.

It turns out to be a simple matter to set up ALSA and jack to work with
native, unmodified OSS applications.

What that means is that linux soundcard applications -- the ones we've been
able to test -- already work with sdr-core. The list prominently includes
gMFSK and qsstv. The chief missing items are soundmodem (which, if it works,
will additionally give packet, G-TOR, AMTOR, and PACTOR I) and fldigi, which
has been out of reach since it needs the latest version of hamlib, and that
is a scrappy install so far. I haven't been able to get it to build for love
or money.

If somebody is interested, now would be the time to build a new hamlib
interface, a high-level one. With that in place the circle would be
complete, and the SDR-1000 under linux could be completely controlled by the
digital mode programs, xlog, tlf, and so on, pretty much immediately.

73
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Frank Brickle]

After some modifications and leg-evening, the hardware code is now running
satisfactorily under python on linux. Modifications have been applied to the
svn repo. Details are posted on the dttsp-linux reflector. All praise to
W3SZ for his patient work in nursing this and many other linux efforts
along, mostly single-handedly.

Also, thanks to the heroic efforts of KC2FWX and colleagues at the New
Providence Amateur Radio Club, sdr-core is now running well under Mac OSX.
It's a real nest of SDR activity up there. We will be exercising the USB
version of the hardware code with it in the next several days but expect no
real obstacles.

73
Frank
AB2KT


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>
> Yes!  One of the core goals of the new software architecture is to be able
> to run the radio from the platform of the users choice (at least windows
> and
> linux ... probably Mac too).  At this point it is not clear whether this
> will be realized as a single GUI or whether we will have to have OS
> specific
> consoles.  Whatever the case, a linux console is definitely in the future.
>
>
> Eric Wachsmann
> FlexRadio Systems
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim, W4ATK
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:28 AM
> > To: Flex-radio Reflector
> > Subject: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> >   I noticed a post from Bob McGwier the other day and actually
> > downloaded the
> > stuff via TortoiseSVN. Do you think we will have a Linux version of
> > PowerSDR
> > down the pike?
> >   With Windows XP's somewhat tenuous position as Microsoft pushes
> > their new
> > VISTA os, it just seem that maybe a Linux version might be appropriate.
> I
> > think Bob Cowdry has been working on something with Erlang, but was just
> > curuious about Flex-Radio's thoughts without, of course, you letting any
> > kittys out of the sack
> >
> > Jim, W4ATK
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Jim Lux]

At 08:13 PM 2/7/2007, Brad A. Steffler wrote:
>I am mainly a "user". I have installed Ubuntu Linux and have absolutely
>no problem using it or keeping it working.
>  While I am a former FORTRAN IV  (and some C) programmer, I am not an
>expert. I have been out of the field too long to
>remember the finer points and nuances of programming.
>
>Ubuntu Linux is easy to use and to keep updated. Power SDR on this
>platform would be a cinch to set up and use, if comparable
>efforts to make it easy to install were made, when compared to the
>efforts of Windows and Ubuntu programs.


The effort required for a clean and easy Windows install are fairly 
easy.. it sort of comes with the development environment, and a lot 
of the little bits and pieces are part of WIndows (embrace and 
extend, after all).

The problem with Linux comes in because there ARE differences between 
distros or installed configurations.

It would be fairly easy to make a Live-CD that could boot and bring 
up LinuxSDR.  It would also be pretty easy to make a clean install 
method for any *one* particular distro (e.g. Ubuntu D or E).

The trick would be supporting the guy that has RedHat or FC5 or 
Debian or Suse with the *same* install procedure.

It can be done.. I've seen some very clever make files.. but it's not easy


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[Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Brad A. Steffler]

I am mainly a "user". I have installed Ubuntu Linux and have absolutely 
no problem using it or keeping it working.
 While I am a former FORTRAN IV  (and some C) programmer, I am not an 
expert. I have been out of the field too long to
remember the finer points and nuances of programming.

Ubuntu Linux is easy to use and to keep updated. Power SDR on this 
platform would be a cinch to set up and use, if comparable
efforts to make it easy to install were made, when compared to the 
efforts of Windows and Ubuntu programs.

I don't think the command is all that intimidating if one has clear, 
detailed directions . I am 58 years old and not a  techno super-expert 
by any means.

73

Brad
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Jim Lux]

At 02:30 PM 2/7/2007, Eric Wachsmann wrote:
>If the GUI source is cross platform, then it will be a one-for-all,
>all-for-one kind of thing (i.e. when we commit an update for windows, the
>same update should work for linux, mac, etc).
>
>However, if the GUIs are separate entities, I think we would handle them as
>such.  I doubt that we would even release matching version numbers.

And, in any case, you still have to manage configurations of the 
"helper" applications (jack/portaudio/etc.) which will inevitably be 
different among the platforms.

Jim 



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[lloen]

> If the GUI source is cross platform, then it will be a one-for-all,
> all-for-one kind of thing (i.e. when we commit an update for windows, the
> same update should work for linux, mac, etc).
>
> However, if the GUIs are separate entities, I think we would handle them
> as
> such.  I doubt that we would even release matching version numbers.
>
>
> Eric Wachsmann
> FlexRadio Systems
>

That's one consideration.

But, I was thinking beyond the actual code base, proper, to where and how
bugs get fixed and features added.

We have a lot more users (raises hand) than coders and I would be
concerned if supporting three platforms (in binary) ended up slowing down
overall progress as opposed to having the "lesser" platforms not having
quite so much formal support so as to get new features well-debugged on
the primary platform and then the rest handled after most of the bugs were
wrung out.

The easiest way to do it is to have differing levels of production of
binary, especially for shorter lived "alpha" and "beta" levels of code.

Maybe there is no practical difference in the end, but it seems like there
could be a way to think about and manage the management of bugs and new
features as they flow through the entire code base.

Debug time counts, too.


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Eric Wachsmann]

If the GUI source is cross platform, then it will be a one-for-all,
all-for-one kind of thing (i.e. when we commit an update for windows, the
same update should work for linux, mac, etc).

However, if the GUIs are separate entities, I think we would handle them as
such.  I doubt that we would even release matching version numbers.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:08 PM
> To: KA5MIR
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR
> 
> If we produce Linux (and Mac) versions, why not only commit to do them on
> the actual release boundaries (with addition of perhaps the last beta or
> three)?
> 
> 
> Larry  WO0Z


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Jim Lux]

At 12:30 PM 2/7/2007, KA5MIR wrote:
>On Wednesday 07 February 2007 11:18, someone wrote:
> >   However, market realities (90% of users use windows,
> > etc.) mean that the allocation of development resources might push
> > towards the MS platform, just to accomodate the majority.
>
>I don't doubt that the majority of "ALL users" including those that just do
>email use the default os, but I would think that the majority of "SDR users"
>would be in a more computer literate group.  A group that could appreciate
>the advantages of not being tied to a single os vendor with manipulative
>tendencies.

certainly true for the dozen or so regular posters on this list. 
Perhaps not so true for the couple thousand SDR1000 users out there...

And, there's very much a bird in the hand vs bush aspect... We have a 
windows version that works and is getting better every day.  A 
complete rebuild in a new environment is more of a "real soon now" 
sort of creation, with the schedule determined by the availability of 
volunteer resources to toil on it. There's certainly some very cool 
stuff in Linux and using some cross platform things, but it is not is 
as well integrated and "out of the box" usable for a casual user as 
the current PowerSDR.

In hardware terms, the linux/cross platform software for the SDR1000 
is definitely "some assembly required". (and this is by no means 
restricted to SDR1000 related software in Linux.. Try and install 
something like MythTV from a precompiled binary...)

And getting that "seamless, easy install" is a fair amount of tedious 
work, trying it on several distros and configurations (so you can 
find all the dependencies), and doing a good job packaging 
it.  Complicated by the fact that the Linux version uses many 
components from many different sources, so ongoing configuration 
management is a bit of a challenge.  Fine for the hacker who does 
kernel compiles while microwaving their  breakfast, lunch, and 
dinner.  Not so hot for the guy who just wants to talk on the radio.

Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[lloen]

> On Wednesday 07 February 2007 11:18, someone wrote:
>>   However, market realities (90% of users use windows,
>> etc.) mean that the allocation of development resources might push
>> towards the MS platform, just to accomodate the majority.
>
> I don't doubt that the majority of "ALL users" including those that just
> do
> email use the default os, but I would think that the majority of "SDR
> users"
> would be in a more computer literate group.  A group that could appreciate
> the advantages of not being tied to a single os vendor with manipulative
> tendencies.
>
> Jeff/KA5MIR
>

I propose an interesting compromise --

If we produce Linux (and Mac) versions, why not only commit to do them on
the actual release boundaries (with addition of perhaps the last beta or
three)?

This is more of a support question than a coding question and it may be
better to just "do it all" anyway.  But, there could be a notion, one way
or another, of major/minor "release" such that we wouldn't be able to
expect a Linux/Mac version for each of the (eventually numberless)
versions of the console.

Thus, people running on the equivalent of 1.8.0 could expect to see a
Linux or Mac version (if we did both), but people running at the "SVN"
level would be far more on their own in terms of whether/when/how often
these things rolled out on the nonWindows platforms and how any interim
versions were created and/or tested.


Larry  WO0Z


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[KA5MIR]

On Wednesday 07 February 2007 11:18, someone wrote:
>   However, market realities (90% of users use windows,
> etc.) mean that the allocation of development resources might push
> towards the MS platform, just to accomodate the majority.

I don't doubt that the majority of "ALL users" including those that just do 
email use the default os, but I would think that the majority of "SDR users" 
would be in a more computer literate group.  A group that could appreciate 
the advantages of not being tied to a single os vendor with manipulative 
tendencies.

Jeff/KA5MIR

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Jim Lux]

At 08:27 AM 2/7/2007, Jim, W4ATK wrote:
>Eric,
>
> I noticed a post from Bob McGwier the other day and 
> actually downloaded the
>stuff via TortoiseSVN. Do you think we will have a Linux version of PowerSDR
>down the pike?
> With Windows XP's somewhat tenuous position as Microsoft 
> pushes their new
>VISTA os,

XP (home) is going to be supported for a very long time...
Mainstream support up to 4/2009, extended support to 4/2014

I suspect your computer will be dead or obsolete long before XP dies.



>  it just seem that maybe a Linux version might be appropriate. I
>think Bob Cowdry has been working on something with Erlang, but was just
>curuious about Flex-Radio's thoughts without, of course, you letting any
>kittys out of the sack

There has been talk over the years of a 2.0 release that would be 
refactored and repartitioned to make it easier to have cross platform 
compatibility.  However, market realities (90% of users use windows, 
etc.) mean that the allocation of development resources might push 
towards the MS platform, just to accomodate the majority.

Of course, if you have Linux development skills and the time to 
contribute, you can help the Linux version of whatever it's called 
become a reality.

Barring a conversion to a consistent cross platform solution (e.g. 
Java.), I would imagine that the Windows and Linux "user experience" 
will always be different for the SDR1000.  They're different 
populations of users, with different expectations, with different 
implementation and architectural models.  And, even if you were to 
use a uniform cross platform solution, you'd still wind up with 
something that is "different" for some or all users.  (that is, Java 
applications, on Windows, tend to not replicate the MS Windows "look 
and feel", for a variety of reasons)


Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[A.R.S. - W5AMI]

On 2/7/07, Eric Wachsmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes!  One of the core goals of the new software architecture is to be able
> to run the radio from the platform of the users choice (at least windows and
> linux ... probably Mac too).  At this point it is not clear whether this
> will be realized as a single GUI or whether we will have to have OS specific
> consoles.  Whatever the case, a linux console is definitely in the future.
>
You just don't know what great news that is to me Eric!  I can't wait
for a Linux console!

The future sounds bright!

73
Brian / w5ami

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Eric Wachsmann]

Yes!  One of the core goals of the new software architecture is to be able
to run the radio from the platform of the users choice (at least windows and
linux ... probably Mac too).  At this point it is not clear whether this
will be realized as a single GUI or whether we will have to have OS specific
consoles.  Whatever the case, a linux console is definitely in the future.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim, W4ATK
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:28 AM
> To: Flex-radio Reflector
> Subject: [Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR
> 
> Eric,
> 
>   I noticed a post from Bob McGwier the other day and actually
> downloaded the
> stuff via TortoiseSVN. Do you think we will have a Linux version of
> PowerSDR
> down the pike?
>   With Windows XP's somewhat tenuous position as Microsoft pushes
> their new
> VISTA os, it just seem that maybe a Linux version might be appropriate. I
> think Bob Cowdry has been working on something with Erlang, but was just
> curuious about Flex-Radio's thoughts without, of course, you letting any
> kittys out of the sack
> 
> Jim, W4ATK


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[Flexradio] Linux version of PowerSDR

[Jim, W4ATK]

Eric,

I noticed a post from Bob McGwier the other day and actually downloaded 
the
stuff via TortoiseSVN. Do you think we will have a Linux version of PowerSDR
down the pike?
With Windows XP's somewhat tenuous position as Microsoft pushes their 
new
VISTA os, it just seem that maybe a Linux version might be appropriate. I
think Bob Cowdry has been working on something with Erlang, but was just
curuious about Flex-Radio's thoughts without, of course, you letting any
kittys out of the sack

Jim, W4ATK


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[Flexradio] Linux Console on FC6

[John M. Belstner]

Greetings,

Has anyone had success using the Linux Console under Fedora Core 6 or any other 
version of FC?  With the Delta-44 audio card?

Thanks,
John W9EN

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[Flexradio] Linux SDR TeamSpeak questions

[Roger Rehr]

Hi, All, I sent this to the linux-dttsp list and then realized that not 
everyone who was present for the EXCELLENT TeamSpeak last night is 
necessarily subscribed to the linux-dttsp list.

I apologize for the redundancy for those who are subscribed to both lists.

For those who asked me about [1] Linux SDR-1000 hardware control and 
[2] BeBob [FreeBob] on the TeamSpeak session last night [great session, 
guys...Thanks!] I note the following:

1.  My dttsp webpage has information on using HamLib to control the
SDR-1000.  I am listening to the SDR-1000 as I type this, using HamLib
to set the frequency and Preamp and attenuator levels.  It works fine
and the steps to using it are detailed at:
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/dttspw3sz.htm , item 16.  Exact URL is:
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/dttspw3sz.htm#16

I have not tried to control transmit yet with HamLib.  I haven't played
with Frank and Bob's code since Thanksgiving.  At that time it was not
functioning properly for me, and I never heard about any subsequent
updates.  So I have stayed with HamLib as it works nicely with no need
for 'fiddling'.

2.  Last October I got my Firebox working under Linux with the SDR-1000
and SDR-Shell, gbeppe, etc by using BeBob variant FreeBob.  This was
not a simple task due to the fact that Ubuntu uses its own versions of
many Linux Packages, and these versions did not satisfy the
dependencies of other packages needed to run FreeBob.  As of last
October there were inkings of a version of jack that would contain
FreeBob capability out of the box.  I haven't looked into this here
since I have been busy with work, and don't know what if anything has
transpired in this regard.  So my somewhat arduous 'formula' may be
very much out of date at this point.  But it worked for me, and I am
listening to the SDR-1000 using SDR-Shell via the Firebox as I type
this.  My info is again on my webpage at:

http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/dttspw3sz.htm , item 15.  Exact URL is:
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz/dttspw3sz.htm#15

Hope that helps!


73,

W3SZ
Roger Rehr
http://www.nitehawk.com/w3sz




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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak

[KD5NWA]

FlexRadio - Eric wrote:
> It's been today all day long here...  ;)
> 
> 
> Eric Wachsmann
> FlexRadio Systems
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> radio.biz] On Behalf Of KD5NWA
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:39 PM
>> To: Flex Radio Reflector
>> Subject: [Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak
>>
>>
>> It's today in 22 minutes, right?
>>
>> Sorry, I accidentally deleted the email.
>> --
>>
>> Cecil
>> KD5NWA
>> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com
> 
> 

That is because Linux rocks! Specially on my 22" LCD monitor, that I 
still love. That is also part of the reason why I'm broke.

Eric, recently I lost 3 PC's due to flooding and lightning, I lost my 
schematics to my SDR-1000 and the email with link to it, can you send me 
the link privately?

Muchas gracias Senor Eirikr
-- 

Cecil
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak

[Mike Naruta]

Hi Cecil,


I thought it was 11/Jan (9 PM EST)


Mike - AA8K



KD5NWA wrote:
> It's today in 22 minutes, right?
> 
> Sorry, I accidentally deleted the email.

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak

[FlexRadio - Eric]

It's been today all day long here...  ;)


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of KD5NWA
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:39 PM
> To: Flex Radio Reflector
> Subject: [Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak
> 
> 
> It's today in 22 minutes, right?
> 
> Sorry, I accidentally deleted the email.
> --
> 
> Cecil
> KD5NWA
> www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com


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[Flexradio] Linux Teamspeak

[KD5NWA]

It's today in 22 minutes, right?

Sorry, I accidentally deleted the email.
-- 

Cecil
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com www.hpsdr.com

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[Flexradio] Linux drivers for Edirol FA-66?

[Ken N9VV]

Has anyone used the Roland Edirol FA-66 with Linux O/S?
my system recognizes the device and the 1394 Firewire port,
but I can't locate any drivers for the FA-66.
BK de ken n9vv

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Larry Loen]

Jim Lux wrote:

>At 04:00 PM 1/2/2007, Frank Brickle wrote:
>  
>
>>On 1/2/07, James Courtier-Dutton 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I use Microsoft Word's equation editor, reviewing, and cross
>>>referencing capabilities a lot, and open office is incompatible for
>>>some reason. I haven't dug into why, but since I need to generate MS
>>>Word documents for others to review and work on, I'm not likely to
>>>change, nor am I interested in spending lots of time figuring out how
>>>to make it compatible.
>>>  
>>>
>>I have no idea on this one, so you might have a point here.
>>
>>
>>I frequently use OO for my wife to "fix" Microsoft Office documents 
>>that get wedged on account of M$Office bugs and version incompatibilities.
>>
>>But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters 
>>and short articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.
>>
>>
>
>On punch cards, I'm sure... (after you've graduated from NROFF and paper tape)
>
>
>Jim 
>-- next part --
>  
>

No,  I'm with Frank on this one.  IME, 99 per cent of all Word documents 
I have ever read could have bee prepared on Wordpad (aka write).  The 
rest are complex enough to profit from a real typesetting system.  There 
are limits to the GUI paradigm.  You can "wimp out" and use LaTex if you 
like.  For complicated documents, either is actually easier.



Larry  WO0Z




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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[petervn]

Only 2 rows of lamps?
My PDP8 has 5 rows of lamps, (Lost the TTY, does not run anymore)
a picture (not mine, I do'n have the glass box, but metal)
www.cedmagic.com/history/dec-pdp-8.html 
<http://www.cedmagic.com/history/dec-pdp-8.html> 
 
Software Defined Radio... with 8k 12 bits words (if you had a 4k mem 
extension)???
 
7402;-) pa0pvn
 
groeten Peter
petervn(a)hetnet.nl <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; pa0pvn(a)hetnet.nl 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   ;
pa0pvn(a)gmail.com ; pa0pvn(a)amsat.org .
 



Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] namens Mike Naruta
Verzonden: wo 3-1-2007 12:51
Aan: Jim Lux; FlexRadio
Onderwerp: Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?



Woosies used card decks and punched paper tape.

Real Men use the toggle switches and lamps on
the console.  One row for address and one row
for data.

I could do the binary DEC bootstrap loader in my
sleep, and often did.  Got so I could tell what
was running just by the pattern in the lights.

Then again, I could tell when someone on RTTY
was sending CQ or RYs just by the sound.
850 Hertz shift, of course.


To the Good Old Days.  May they never return.



Mike - AA8K



Jim Lux wrote:

>>
>> But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters
>> and short articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.
>
> On punch cards, I'm sure... (after you've graduated from NROFF and paper tape)
>
>
> Jim

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Mike Naruta]

Woosies used card decks and punched paper tape.

Real Men use the toggle switches and lamps on
the console.  One row for address and one row
for data.

I could do the binary DEC bootstrap loader in my
sleep, and often did.  Got so I could tell what
was running just by the pattern in the lights.

Then again, I could tell when someone on RTTY
was sending CQ or RYs just by the sound.
850 Hertz shift, of course.


To the Good Old Days.  May they never return.



Mike - AA8K



Jim Lux wrote:

>>
>> But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters 
>> and short articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.
> 
> On punch cards, I'm sure... (after you've graduated from NROFF and paper tape)
> 
> 
> Jim 

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Simon Brown \(HB9DRV\)]

- Original Message - 

> ... when it gets right down to it, Windows is more of a
> "Presentation Manager" than a real operating system, and so, very UI
> centric, not OS services centric.

Windows NT / 2K / XP / VISTA is based on OpenVMS, if you look at the way the 
operating system is designed you will see this.

http://www.businessreviewonline.com/blog/archives/2005/10/index.html#81

For more background Google for Windows, VMS and Dave Cutler.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?IssueID=97&ArticleID=4494

" And now...the rest of the story: I'll take you on a short tour of NT's 
lineage, which leads back to Digital and its VMS OS. Most of NT's lead 
developers, including VMS's chief architect, came from Digital, and their 
background heavily influenced NT's development."

VMS was and IMHO still is the finest server system available today.

I also used RSTS with the PDP-11, started with punched cards and paper tape!

Simon Brown, HB9DRV 


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

Jim Lux wrote:

>> But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters and
>> short articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.
> 
> On punch cards, I'm sure... (after you've graduated from NROFF and paper
> tape)

Nah. Scribed directly onto DECtape with magnetized needles.

Don't laugh, though. Did you ever see a description of how the RCA
Mark II Synthesizer had to be programmed? It tells you something
that people abandoned it and went *back* to splicing 1/4" tape
with razor blades.

73
Frank
AB2KT

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Jim Lux]

At 04:00 PM 1/2/2007, Frank Brickle wrote:
>On 1/2/07, James Courtier-Dutton 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I use Microsoft Word's equation editor, reviewing, and cross
> > referencing capabilities a lot, and open office is incompatible for
> > some reason. I haven't dug into why, but since I need to generate MS
> > Word documents for others to review and work on, I'm not likely to
> > change, nor am I interested in spending lots of time figuring out how
> > to make it compatible.
>I have no idea on this one, so you might have a point here.
>
>
>I frequently use OO for my wife to "fix" Microsoft Office documents 
>that get wedged on account of M$Office bugs and version incompatibilities.
>
>But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters 
>and short articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.

On punch cards, I'm sure... (after you've graduated from NROFF and paper tape)


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

On 1/2/07, James Courtier-Dutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I use Microsoft Word's equation editor, reviewing, and cross
> > referencing capabilities a lot, and open office is incompatible for
> > some reason. I haven't dug into why, but since I need to generate MS
> > Word documents for others to review and work on, I'm not likely to
> > change, nor am I interested in spending lots of time figuring out how
> > to make it compatible.
> I have no idea on this one, so you might have a point here.


I frequently use OO for my wife to "fix" Microsoft Office documents that get
wedged on account of M$Office bugs and version incompatibilities.

But really, if you use either OO or MO for anything beyond letters and short
articles, you deserve whatever misery you get. Real Men use TeX.

;-)

73
Frank
AB2KT
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux third party software

[Frank Brickle]

John Basilotto wrote:

> Is there any third party software i.e logging, digital modes, which can be
> used with a Linus OS? 

Oh, and I forgot: the satellite software is terrific, both for
tracking and for PacSat applications. I use predict and gpredict
every day, usually more than once.

73
Frank
AB2KT

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Jim Lux wrote:
> I call BS. It is a royal pain just to reinstall your existing 
> applications on a new computer, staying in the Windows world. There 
> are lots and lots of Windows only applications out there that are 
> quite useful, if not necessary.
>

> For instance, I use 4NEC2 as a front end for NEC analysis. It's not 
> available for Linux, and I'm not particularly eager to go back to 
> writing and reading bare NEC decks.
Works fine here in Linux using a tool called wine. It lets you use your 
"must have" windows applications under linux, until a better alternative 
presents inself.

>
> I use Microsoft Word's equation editor, reviewing, and cross 
> referencing capabilities a lot, and open office is incompatible for 
> some reason. I haven't dug into why, but since I need to generate MS 
> Word documents for others to review and work on, I'm not likely to 
> change, nor am I interested in spending lots of time figuring out how 
> to make it compatible.
I have no idea on this one, so you might have a point here.

>
> What about hot-syncing my Treo with my PC?
Works fine. Using a bluetooth radio link to do the sync.

>
> What about support for my Tablet PC? I'd hate to give up my stylus and 
> the ability to take notes on a tablet.
Works fine in Linux. Linux support touch screens and the like.

>
> Then, there's those horrible, but necessary, websites that are IE 
> only. All too many manufacturers of components put their data out with 
> slick IE only web interfaces. Why, I do not know (just ignorance on 
> their part, or they hire a low budget web developer who is MS centric).
This may or may not be true. I have just never found such a site yet.
>
>
> What about compatiblity with my co-workers? I work somewhere where we 
> have a variety of OSes (Win, Mac, Linux, Solaris, etc.) and people 
> that are non-Windows users tend to wind up having a Windows machine 
> too, just to interoperate. (This just moves the pain of interoperation 
> to just one person, rather than inflicting it on many people) The 
> occasional incompatibility between Powerpoint on the Mac and 
> Powerpoint on the PC alone is a pain, and they're both MS products.
There are incompatibilities between MS Office 2000 and MS Office 2003 
both on the Windows platform, so you cannot really use this complaint 
against Linux.

>
>
> So, if you are running in your own isolated world, you can probably 
> find functional equivalents for most applications that are Linux 
> compatible, and your work can go along just as well or better. 
> However, many people are in a Windows environment at work, and would 
> just as soon use the same applications at home as at work, especially 
> if their life isn't wrapped up in computers and they derive no special 
> thrill from being multi-OS-lingual.
>
> So, I call BS on the claim of "no significant pain to move from 
> Windows to Linux". It just ain't so, which means that if you want 
> people to move, you have to provide not only comparable functionality, 
> but also make the move to Linux (and back to Windows) relatively 
> painless. It's the move back that is especially important, because you 
> may find that Linux just isn't going to work for you.
>
You clearly have your view, and I have mine, I guess we can call this 
quits and end this thread. :-)
>
> Jim, W6RMK
>


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux third party software

[Frank Brickle]

John --

Reams of it. Please see



For logging, my favorites are

 * tlf for HF contesting, which is TR and CT compatible
 * roverlog for VHF contesting
 * xlog for general uses

All of these will do CW and voice keying, rig and rotor control,
cluster spotting, can be networked, etc. There are several others.

For digital text modes, some soundcard choices are

 * gMFSK, simply superb, provinding MFSK8/16, Olivia, Hell, RTTY,
PSK31 BPSK and QPSK, PSK63, MT63, and THROB1, 2, and 4. It is the
best-written amateur radio program I know. It also will do rig
control and interoperates with the various logging programs.
 * hfmodem, which will do RTTY, AMTOR, GTOR, and PACTOR I.
 * soundmodem, which will do VHF and HF packet
 * fldigi is a new program that looks promising
 * WSJT
 * and there are at least half a dozen other PSK/digital mode
programs readily available, including gpsk, kpsk, linpsk, twpsk,
and so on.

For SSTV,
 * qsstv, a functional equivalent to MMSSTV

AX25 packet, using either the soundcard or nearly every available
external TNC, is a standard part of the Linux kernel.

Using the jack audio subsystem, you have available a tremendous
range of plugin DSP facilities for EQ, filtering, echo and reverb
and pretty much every other common kind of outboard processing.

For recording and editing, there are
 * audacity
 * snd
 * ardour

Much antenna modeling software.

Etc. etc.

73
Frank
AB2KT

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[Flexradio] Linux third party software

[John Basilotto]

Happy New Year Linux aficionados.

 

Is there any third party software i.e logging, digital modes, which can be
used with a Linus OS? 

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Jim Lux]

At 12:13 PM 1/2/2007, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
>Jim Lux wrote:
>>Sure. BUT PowerSDR is a product from a company that presumably 
>>wishes to stay in business and has to sell product to do so (unless 
>>Gerald is going to altruistically support ham radio into the 
>>future..).  And for the next few years at least (and probably well 
>>into the next decade) the dominant platform (in terms of percentage 
>>of computers) is going to be windows (just out of inertia, and 
>>because MS can spend a gargantuan sum of money to keep it that 
>>way).  Out of the hundreds,if not thousands, of SDR1000 owners, I 
>>suspect a very small percentage participate on this list, and there 
>>are a huge number of people just appreciating the SDR1000/PowerSDR 
>>combination as a high performance "black box appliance".  And, 
>>statistically, those people are more likely to be running Windows.
>
>I don't believe Flex-radio sell the PowerSDR at all. It is open 
>source and GPL. Flex-radio sell the Flexradio HARDWARE, and use 
>PowerSDR as a tool to do that.

yes, that's right.


>  The better PowerSDR is, the more Flexradio HARDWARE they will 
> sell. They let other people in the open source community improve 
> the software with them and that results in better, more reliable 
> software, and therefore more Flexradio hardware sales.

yes.. but the OS platform those folks develop for determines the size 
of the pool of potential buyers of the SDR1000 hardware (and its 
successors).  Take an extreme example.  Say I developed a 
miraculously wonderful version of PowerSDR, but it runs ONLY on 
PDP-11 with an attached FPS coprocessor driving a Tektronix 4014 
graphics terminal.  Even the fact that it's written in C and 
opensourced wouldn't drive many sales of the SDR1000, because very, 
very few people have such a hardware configuration.  And, they 
wouldn't be likely to go out and get the hardware just to run my 
fabulous software (heck, they probably wouldn't take it if were offered free).

The same applies, but to a much less degree, to software that 
supports the SDR1000.  No matter how wonderful the Linux version, 
unless you can also do all the other stuff you do with Windows, and 
get it without suffering pain, most people won't switch over.  People 
like their existing word processor client, they like their email, 
they like their printer drivers, etc.  You'd have to give them a very 
convincing total package (not just PowerSDR) to get them to switch.

A "live CD" style scheme (like Knoppix) might work, especially if a 
way were provided to update the PowerSDR image. That is, you'd boot 
off your SDR1000 CD, and it would use the latest version of software 
stored on your hard disk (which you might have updated using an OS 
independent web browser interface).  Of course, if Windows moves to 
an encrypted disk structure, it would cause problems.  But, even 
then, you're basically converting your PC into a dedicated system 
while you're playing radio.  No cut and paste from an email or 
document into a PSK31 program, etc.  So, you've taken a powerful 
multitasking computer and turned it into a special purpose dedicated 
box.  Well, then, why not just embed a single purpose diskless PC 
into the radio.







>>The vocal minority, interested in tinkering, etc., for whom open 
>>source is a godsend, probably has a higher percentage of Linux 
>>users.  Further, just because they're willing to tinker, they're 
>>also willing to suffer some amount of pain to shift from Windows to 
>>Linux  (and, yes, there is significant pain in doing so, 
>>notwithstanding how congenial the environment is after the changeover).
>
>I don't believe there is significant pain to shift from Windows to 
>Linux. Microsoft might want users to think that, but it really is not true.

I call BS.  It is a royal pain just to reinstall your existing 
applications on a new computer, staying in the Windows world.  There 
are lots and lots of Windows only applications out there that are 
quite useful, if not necessary.

For instance, I use 4NEC2 as a front end for NEC analysis.  It's not 
available for Linux, and I'm not particularly eager to go back to 
writing and reading bare NEC decks.

I use Microsoft Word's equation editor, reviewing, and cross 
referencing capabilities a lot, and open office is incompatible for 
some reason.  I haven't dug into why, but since I need to generate MS 
Word documents for others to review and work on, I'm not likely to 
change, nor am I interested in spending lots of time figuring out how 
to make it compatible.

What about hot-syncing my Treo with my PC?

What about support for my Tablet PC?  I'd hate to give up my stylus 
and the ability to take notes on a tablet.

Then, there's those horrible, but necessary, websites that are IE 
only.  All too many manufacturers of components put their data out 
with slick IE only web interfaces.  Why, I do not know (just 
ignorance on their part, or they hire a low budget web developer who 

Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Duane - N9DG]

--- Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I actually think the optimum long range solution is a Linux
> embedded 
> PC in the radio box talking over ethernet to the UI running
> on 
> Windows (or whatever).  Then, the radio hackers get a nice
> open 
> source platform to tinker in (and it's easier to do that
> kind of 
> thing in Linux than Windows).  The "all I want is a radio"
> folks get 
> what they want, without having to buy a whole 'nother
> computer that 
> then has to be managed. (the embedded Linux box is a
> stripped down 
> distro, etc.)  And the Windows UI folks get to do all the
> nice 
> Windows UI things, including coexisting with other ham
> radio and 
> other software.

This is pretty much the same conclusion that I keep coming
back to. Although I don't think that the SDR-1000's PC
necessarily need be embedded.

FWIW I drive my SDR-1000 (& other SDR experiments) dedicated
XP machine 90% of the time via VNC from my main 3 monitor W2K
 system even though the SDR-1000's PC is on the same KVM with
the W2K box.

Duane
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[n4xwe]

Hello Everyone,

Over the past couple of days I have heard a number of comments in this thread 
about the "heartache" and "pain" associated with moving from Windows to the 
Linux OS.  

How soon we forget.  

The transition from DOS to the earlier versions of Windows was much more 
painful.  Not only did we have to deal with that buggy, crashing, piece of 
crap, Windows GUI, but the initial learning curve was tremendous. The only 
saving grace was that most (as in not all) of the Windows applications from the 
user perspective operated in a similar fashion.  And let us not forget about 
some of the horrific application software from the early 90's.  M$ Project 
comes to mind as one of the worst but there were plenty of others.

So when others talk about the "pain" and "heartache" associated with Linux, 
remember it is all relative.  In my opinion, the transition from Windows to 
Linux was a piece of cake.

73,

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Jim Lux wrote:
> 
> Sure. BUT PowerSDR is a product from a company that presumably wishes to 
> stay in business and has to sell product to do so (unless Gerald is 
> going to altruistically support ham radio into the future..).  And for 
> the next few years at least (and probably well into the next decade) the 
> dominant platform (in terms of percentage of computers) is going to be 
> windows (just out of inertia, and because MS can spend a gargantuan sum 
> of money to keep it that way).  Out of the hundreds,if not thousands, of 
> SDR1000 owners, I suspect a very small percentage participate on this 
> list, and there are a huge number of people just appreciating the 
> SDR1000/PowerSDR combination as a high performance "black box 
> appliance".  And, statistically, those people are more likely to be 
> running Windows.

I don't believe Flex-radio sell the PowerSDR at all. It is open source 
and GPL. Flex-radio sell the Flexradio HARDWARE, and use PowerSDR as a 
tool to do that. The better PowerSDR is, the more Flexradio HARDWARE 
they will sell. They let other people in the open source community 
improve the software with them and that results in better, more reliable 
software, and therefore more Flexradio hardware sales.

> 
> The vocal minority, interested in tinkering, etc., for whom open source 
> is a godsend, probably has a higher percentage of Linux users.  Further, 
> just because they're willing to tinker, they're also willing to suffer 
> some amount of pain to shift from Windows to Linux  (and, yes, there is 
> significant pain in doing so, notwithstanding how congenial the 
> environment is after the changeover).

I don't believe there is significant pain to shift from Windows to 
Linux. Microsoft might want users to think that, but it really is not true.

>>
>> The SDR1000 is most certainly not a "no user serviceable parts inside" 
>> product.
> 
> 
> The fact that it is "user servicing allowed and encouraged" but supports 
> the "black box" model is all to the better.
> 

That is more the point I was trying to make.

> 
> Jim, W6RMK
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Jim Lux]

At 07:56 AM 1/2/2007, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
>Jim Lux wrote:
>>At 02:58 PM 1/1/2007, Ken N9VV wrote:
>>>I enjoyed this thought provoking article about the "real" cost of M$
>>>Virus (Vista)
>>>http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>>>de ken
>
>>
>>And that gets to what the future of an SDR1000/PowerSDR is...
>>is an SDR1000 a hacker platform?
>>is it a consumer software radio?
>
>I think the answer is both. It works very nicely as a consumer 
>radio, but also is open enough to act as a hacker platform.
>
>>If the latter, then PowerSDR must go the Vista route (unless MS goes
>
>"must" is way to strong here. PowerSDR does not have to go any 
>particular route. It is an open platform and will just go whichever 
>way users want it to go.


Sure. BUT PowerSDR is a product from a company that presumably wishes 
to stay in business and has to sell product to do so (unless Gerald 
is going to altruistically support ham radio into the future..).  And 
for the next few years at least (and probably well into the next 
decade) the dominant platform (in terms of percentage of computers) 
is going to be windows (just out of inertia, and because MS can spend 
a gargantuan sum of money to keep it that way).  Out of the 
hundreds,if not thousands, of SDR1000 owners, I suspect a very small 
percentage participate on this list, and there are a huge number of 
people just appreciating the SDR1000/PowerSDR combination as a high 
performance "black box appliance".  And, statistically, those people 
are more likely to be running Windows.

The vocal minority, interested in tinkering, etc., for whom open 
source is a godsend, probably has a higher percentage of Linux 
users.  Further, just because they're willing to tinker, they're also 
willing to suffer some amount of pain to shift from Windows to 
Linux  (and, yes, there is significant pain in doing so, 
notwithstanding how congenial the environment is after the changeover).

I actually think the optimum long range solution is a Linux embedded 
PC in the radio box talking over ethernet to the UI running on 
Windows (or whatever).  Then, the radio hackers get a nice open 
source platform to tinker in (and it's easier to do that kind of 
thing in Linux than Windows).  The "all I want is a radio" folks get 
what they want, without having to buy a whole 'nother computer that 
then has to be managed. (the embedded Linux box is a stripped down 
distro, etc.)  And the Windows UI folks get to do all the nice 
Windows UI things, including coexisting with other ham radio and 
other software.


>>out of business or becomes a <10% minority share player in the 
>>market). There are already limitations imposed on PowerSDR (as 
>>shipped) to meet regulatory requirements, and any peculiar DRM 
>>related functional issues would be the same. Hey, the source code 
>>can still be open and so can the hardware interface specifications, 
>>so the philosophical intent of Gerald, et al, can still be met.
>
>Regulations are different in each country. The PowerSDR source code 
>ships to be compatible with US Regulations, but users in other 
>countries are free to modify the source code they use in any way 
>they see fit and lawful. For example, the UK authority is not nearly 
>as draconian as the FCC.

Yes. And that IS a benefit of opensource.  The point I was trying to 
make is that we already accept some limitations on what we can do to 
meet regulatory requirements, and it's not much different for digital 
rights management.  It might well be that you can't run PowerSDR 
(which would need fully open interfaces to adhere to the philosophy) 
and watch a DVD or listen to iTunes at the same time.  Sure, it's not 
the "total flexibility do whatever I want in a single box nirvana," 
but that's never going to happen anyway, right?

Splitting the DSP and "radio" functionality into a separate processor 
(running Linux or RTEMS or whatever) and just passing control 
interface and audio through Windows fits within the existing and 
planned DRM models of Microsoft just fine. It's just another audio 
stream, and it can be tagged as wideopen unprotected, etc., without 
any trouble.

What you will find is that Windows is going to be ever less of a 
"hackers platform" than ever, but that's no big surprise.  It has 
always been painful to try and do real-time processing within 
Windows, because, when it gets right down to it, Windows is more of a 
"Presentation Manager" than a real operating system, and so, very UI 
centric, not OS services centric.  And, as corporate customers demand 
real OS features (like privilege management, security, etc.) it's 
only going to get less tinkering friendly.  With security (in any 
form) comes finer grained access controls and a larger administrative 
overhead to manage those controls.  It matters not whether you are 
protecting some video stream or sensitive health care information, 
the trend is to better security overall.


>>As far as the former goes, t

Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Jim Lux wrote:
> At 02:58 PM 1/1/2007, Ken N9VV wrote:
>> I enjoyed this thought provoking article about the "real" cost of M$
>> Virus (Vista)
>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>> de ken
> 
> 

> 
> 
> And that gets to what the future of an SDR1000/PowerSDR is...
> 
> is an SDR1000 a hacker platform?
> is it a consumer software radio?

I think the answer is both. It works very nicely as a consumer radio, 
but also is open enough to act as a hacker platform.

> 
> If the latter, then PowerSDR must go the Vista route (unless MS goes 

"must" is way to strong here. PowerSDR does not have to go any 
particular route. It is an open platform and will just go whichever way 
users want it to go.

> out of business or becomes a <10% minority share player in the 
> market). There are already limitations imposed on PowerSDR (as 
> shipped) to meet regulatory requirements, and any peculiar DRM 
> related functional issues would be the same. Hey, the source code can 
> still be open and so can the hardware interface specifications, so 
> the philosophical intent of Gerald, et al, can still be met.

Regulations are different in each country. The PowerSDR source code 
ships to be compatible with US Regulations, but users in other countries 
are free to modify the source code they use in any way they see fit and 
lawful. For example, the UK authority is not nearly as draconian as the FCC.

> 
> As far as the former goes, there's a small and vibrant community of 
> people playing with the SDR1000 hardware platform in a variety of 
> ways. And I think it will stay that way.  But recognize that the 
> software/hardware hacker and tinkerer is a distinct minority of the 
> total SDR1000/PowerSDR market.  There are a lot of people who would 
> be perfectly happy with a SDR1000 in a sealed ("no user serviceable 
> parts inside") box connected to a sealed Windows Genuine Advantage 
> ("No user serviceable software inside") Vista box, as long as the box works.
> 

The SDR1000 is most certainly not a "no user serviceable parts inside" 
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Jim Lux]

At 02:58 PM 1/1/2007, Ken N9VV wrote:
>I enjoyed this thought provoking article about the "real" cost of M$
>Virus (Vista)
>http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
>de ken


There is some interesting commentary that follows that article, to 
wit, that to a certain extent, the concerns are overblown and 
theoretical.  Yes, Microsoft *could* cause everything to quit working 
and yes, there could be unforseen side effects from DRM.  However, 
this is the same thing that happens now.  Most MS users use automatic 
update, and nothing stops MS from rolling out (either by accident or 
design) a patch that kills Windows. (e.g. the whole WGA thing).

Corporate users would obviously not tolerate such a threat to mission 
critical systems (and, in fact, such a "remote software kill" feature 
if implemented intentionally is actually illegal (civil not criminal) 
in some case), and since MS wants corporate users, I suspect there 
will be appropriate procedures (and, most likely, Vista Corporate 
Edition) to deal with it. Tying software serial number to physical 
hardware has been around for decades (remember "vault" and 5 1/4" 
floppies) and doesn't create a significant hardship on the mainstream 
corporate computer builder/user nor on the run of the mill consumer, 
who is buying a "computer as a black box".


Most consumer electronics is not "user serviceable" in any real sense 
of the word (and neither are most ham radios, for that 
matter).  Nobody, when faced with a dead $40 consumer DVD player, 
goes out and buys a replacement drive and tries to bolt it into the 
existing chassis.  Likewise, the TIVO box, the Sony Playstation, etc. 
(not to say that people haven't done it, it's just not the intended 
use case.) For that matter, the same applies to TVs and Stereos. PCs 
are EXACTLY the same.  They are pieces of consumer electronics and 
have long since moved away from the "open up the case and swap in 
another interface" world.  (hence the popularity of 1394 and USB 
interfaces).  Sure, there are places that do servicing (for all 
appliances) and for decades there has been a system (authorized 
factory service centers, SAMS Photo-facts, etc.) to deal with 
repair/replacement at the component level.

The fact that this "no user serviceable parts inside" philosophy 
happens to be tied to digital rights management does cause a lot of 
"information wants to be free" philosophers to get their knickers in 
a twist, but, again, this sort of thing is nothing new.  The attempt 
to control the hardware and software configuration has great 
potential benefits for most consumers (at least as far as the user 
experience goes.. note that Apple stayed in business many years with 
a very closed architecture) and is legally required in some cases 
(the reason there are no firmware updates (and not even any mechanism 
for doing so) for my IC7000 is that the FCC requires "no user 
serviceable" components to get equipment authorization.. not because 
Icom has some evil plan for world domination)

The people who will be most subject to the problem will be the ones 
trying to do something unusual (i.e., the hackers and tweakers) or 
who are trying to reuse old hardware (replacing the mobo, for 
instance).  But this is nothing new, and is just part of the fun of 
hacking.  It just means it gets a bit harder, or you have to choose a 
different platform to hack on.


And that gets to what the future of an SDR1000/PowerSDR is...

is an SDR1000 a hacker platform?
is it a consumer software radio?

If the latter, then PowerSDR must go the Vista route (unless MS goes 
out of business or becomes a <10% minority share player in the 
market). There are already limitations imposed on PowerSDR (as 
shipped) to meet regulatory requirements, and any peculiar DRM 
related functional issues would be the same. Hey, the source code can 
still be open and so can the hardware interface specifications, so 
the philosophical intent of Gerald, et al, can still be met.

As far as the former goes, there's a small and vibrant community of 
people playing with the SDR1000 hardware platform in a variety of 
ways. And I think it will stay that way.  But recognize that the 
software/hardware hacker and tinkerer is a distinct minority of the 
total SDR1000/PowerSDR market.  There are a lot of people who would 
be perfectly happy with a SDR1000 in a sealed ("no user serviceable 
parts inside") box connected to a sealed Windows Genuine Advantage 
("No user serviceable software inside") Vista box, as long as the box works.




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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

Bill Tracey wrote:

> In the Ozy/Janus modified version of PowerSDR we have code to take the
> frames from the USB pipe, convert 'em to floats and pack them into a
> PortAudio frame and then call the same callback that PowerSDR uses for
> PortAudio.
> 
> I'm sure we could get something going on Linux if there's interest.

There's nothing standing in the way of providing a jack client
that does essentially the same things. The downside is that it
would introduce one buffer of latency at the start.

The Right Thing To Do is probably to gin up an ALSA slave device
that communicates between the Ozy/Janus handler process and the
ALSA server via shared memory. ALSA can be responsible for the
int<->float conversions.

73
Frank
AB2KT

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Bill Tracey]

Yes and No.  Ozy/Janus send frames containing audio samples and some 
control status bits over a USB pipe that can be read via LIBusb.  It reads 
frames containing transmit data and data destined for the monitor 
speaker.  No in that I don't think the USRP handles that data for the 
speakers and mic  Also I don't think USRP sends the control bits in the 
audio data stream and its sampling rate us much higher.

In the Ozy/Janus modified version of PowerSDR we have code to take the 
frames from the USB pipe, convert 'em to floats and pack them into a 
PortAudio frame and then call the same callback that PowerSDR uses for 
PortAudio.

I'm sure we could get something going on Linux if there's interest.

Regards,

Bill (kd5tfd)

At 06:45 PM 1/1/2007, Frank Brickle wrote:
>
>
>Janus+Ozy basically mimics the USRP mechanism, is that right?
>
>73
>Frank
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

Lyle Johnson wrote:

> ... knows the popular
> USB knobs and knobs-plus-buttons widgets, handles the various
> (supported) soundcards, understands the HPSDR Janus+Ozy interface...

Not that far off even now. I have an experimental version that
reads MIDI control streams and thus the USB controllers through
the USB-MIDI pseudo-drivers. All of the mapping of devices to
control streams is handled by the ALSA MIDI patching graphic
utilities.

Janus+Ozy basically mimics the USRP mechanism, is that right?

73
Frank
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[KD5NWA]

Lyle Johnson wrote:
>> Linux isn't always the most user-friendly hand-holding OS, but you
>> can't beat the power and flexibility.
> 
> OTOH, it is reasonable to expect that an application (e.g., SDR-1000 
> console) can be made to self-boot and just look like, well, an SDR 
> console, without having to know anything about Linux, mess with 
> networks, worry about virii, or deal with a command-line consle.
> 
> The TiVO system, I am told, is a Linux application, yet the consumers 
> who use it everyday need know nothing about Linux.
> 
> At least one of the popular iPOD-like audio-addiction-dispensers is also 
> running Linux inside.
> 
> I believe the OS in my AvMAP GPS is Linux, too.  Might be wrong, but I 
> never see it, I just use the application.
> 
> In the end, I just want to use the radio.  It isn't about Linux, or 
> Windows, or BSD -- it's about the radio.
> 
> At least, it is for me :-)
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle KK7P

Those devices have the software in "Firmware" so you can even turn it 
off without shutting it down and no harm done, but a PC is another 
beast, if you shut it down improperly you might damage the data on the 
hard disk, so you will need software to recover.

How often does the Tivo software gets upgraded compared to the SDR software?

Where is the incentive to do this? Those companies strip down a copy of 
Linux because they are going to make a ton of money. How many people are 
there out with intimate knowledge of Linux are going to render a version 
of Linux useless for anything else?

The closest I can come up with is Puppy Linux, it's made to be small 
(60Mb) can run from a CD or, from a HD, or, from a USB Flash drive, it's 
lightning fast, since unlike most distros everything is loaded in RAM, 
it makes distros such as Knoptics look like they took slowdown pills.

The 60Mb is with Open Office software suite, Internet browser, email, 
ftp, games, and hundred of other tools. I have not checked lately but 
there was a development version that had tools like GCC and other 
programming tools.

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[ZPO]

Lyle,

Very true -

Tivo, Linksys WRT54G/GS (at least until the latest crippled versions)
NSLU2, various music players, my Thecus NAS box, etc - All running
Linux inside and I've hacked all of them (less my NAS box - I've got
too much stuff on it at 2TB to play around comfortably)

The difference is that all those devices are appliances.  I can
defintely see a market for a fully integrated box that boots from
flash into PowerSDR or some other console.  A couple SPDIF in/out
ports on the back would obviate an additional A/D-D/A step for running
digital mode software.  Folks that want to use the appliance as
shipped could do so.  The intrepid souls that want to venture into the
guts could add all sorts of nifty extra functionality.  The ding comes
at the pricepoint.

I'm all about the radio too.  I'm used to working the seams between
the user interface and the black box.  That is where I find the fun
that I know how to work with well.  I don't have the skills *yet* to
whip up a design for something like an SDR.  I do have the skills to
integrate all the pieces-parts into an integrated working system that
allows me to make contacts and enjoy both processes.

73 N5VFF/YI9VFF - Brian

On 1/2/07, Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OTOH, it is reasonable to expect that an application (e.g., SDR-1000
> console) can be made to self-boot and just look like, well, an SDR
> console, without having to know anything about Linux, mess with
> networks, worry about virii, or deal with a command-line consle.
>
> The TiVO system, I am told, is a Linux application, yet the consumers
> who use it everyday need know nothing about Linux.
>
> At least one of the popular iPOD-like audio-addiction-dispensers is also
> running Linux inside.
>
> I believe the OS in my AvMAP GPS is Linux, too.  Might be wrong, but I
> never see it, I just use the application.
>
> In the end, I just want to use the radio.  It isn't about Linux, or
> Windows, or BSD -- it's about the radio.
>
> At least, it is for me :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Ken N9VV]

I enjoyed this thought provoking article about the "real" cost of M$ 
Virus (Vista)
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
de ken


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[KD5NWA]

Jerry wrote:
> I too am adding my voice to the demand for a Linux version. 
> 
>   Remember, however, that other software such as logging and "good" RTTY
> demod programs are needed to convert the SDR to a useful adjunct to the
> shack.  We are talking about a system not just a single component.
> 
>   The logging programs, the RTTY and PSK programs etc for Linux are quite
> primitive in comparison to those available for windows.  Win 2K and XP will
> be around for a while. Vista may not be.
> 
>   73 de Jerry NO2T

Vista may be around longer than any other OS from Microsoft, I read an 
article that mentioned that it cost over 10 Billion dollars, yes Billion 
dollars to develop Vista.  Even Microsoft will not be able to afford 
that kind of development cost too often, or it's going to "Hasta la 
Vista, Baby"

Make sure you don't loose your XP or Win2K cd's.

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

tlf has most of what you want. xlog is very close.

73
Frank
AB2KT

Greg wrote:
>  I would cross over to
> Linux in a NY minute IF it there were applications for:
> Telnet dx spotting
> Comprehensive logging program with telnet, rotor control, contestingetc.
> PowerSDR
> Mapping...similar to DX Atlas
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Lyle Johnson]

> Linux isn't always the most user-friendly hand-holding OS, but you
> can't beat the power and flexibility.

OTOH, it is reasonable to expect that an application (e.g., SDR-1000 
console) can be made to self-boot and just look like, well, an SDR 
console, without having to know anything about Linux, mess with 
networks, worry about virii, or deal with a command-line consle.

The TiVO system, I am told, is a Linux application, yet the consumers 
who use it everyday need know nothing about Linux.

At least one of the popular iPOD-like audio-addiction-dispensers is also 
running Linux inside.

I believe the OS in my AvMAP GPS is Linux, too.  Might be wrong, but I 
never see it, I just use the application.

In the end, I just want to use the radio.  It isn't about Linux, or 
Windows, or BSD -- it's about the radio.

At least, it is for me :-)

73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[ZPO]

I'm in and very conversant in Linux.

Linux isn't always the most user-friendly hand-holding OS, but you
can't beat the power and flexibility.

73 N5VFF/YI9VFF - Brian


On 1/1/07, Ross Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let the people speak and the revolution begins (continues)
>
> 73 Ross K9COX
>
> > Count me in on the groundswell...
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[petervn]

Who writes a windows(XP...)-simulator under Linux . ;-(
73
 
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Greg]

I use my comoputer mostly for ham radio applications.  I would cross over to
Linux in a NY minute IF it there were applications for:
Telnet dx spotting
Comprehensive logging program with telnet, rotor control, contestingetc.
PowerSDR
Mapping...similar to DX Atlas

I like having all these features interact with each other.  If this was
available in Linux without the crazy usual windows bog downs it would be a
no brainer for me to switch.

Greg
AB7R


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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?


Frank Brickle wrote:
> Ken --
>
> The stuff has to be finished and shrink-wrapped first. The
> hardware dependencies aren't big problems.
>
> The basic issue is that the Linux development has been getting
> little more than crumbs. Brilliant crumbs, to be sure, like John
> Melton, Edson Pereira, and Bob Cowdery. Crumbs nonetheless.
>
> Every time it's looked like proper attention could be paid to
> really finishing the Linux version (read: I've stamped my feet and
> thrown a tantrum), one fire or another has sprung up on the
> Windows side which drained away any of the available "official"
> resources that could be devoted to Linux. This situation is likely
> to continue unless there is at least *some* demand on the part of
> users or potential users for a quality Linux product.
>
> One of my New Year's resolutions (actually went into effect a few
> months ago) was to do nothing on the Flex front that wasn't
> directly applicaMble first and immediately to the new software
> design under Linux. In part this is because none of the really
> interesting pending SDR features (like co-channel interference
> removal or comprehensive automatic signal classification) is worth
> even thinking about under the current design, or under Windows in
> general for that matter. Vista only makes it worse.
>
> If people want a consumer-oriented Linux version, there has to be
> a groundswell of popular support for it. Otherwise the individual
> Linux developers are going to continue to write to suit
> themselves, and that development is, for now, aimed almost
> exclusively at experimenters.
>
> 73 and Happy New Year
> Frank
> AB2KT
>

I  would like to add my voice to the groundswell of demand for a Linux
version.

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Lyle Johnson]

>> Count me in on the groundswell...
> 
> Me, too.  I would like a load-the-CD-and-go version that just works. 
> Handles the parallel port, or various USB interfaces, knows the popular 
> USB knobs and knobs-plus-buttons widgets, handles the various 
> (supported) soundcards, understands the HPSDR Janus+Ozy interface...

Or (even better?,) so it will boot and load into my Cell Processor-based 
system and it understands the SIXAXIS controller for tuning, mode 
selection, etc!

-Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Ross Stenberg]

Let the people speak and the revolution begins (continues)

73 Ross K9COX

> Count me in on the groundswell...



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Larry Loen]

The other, not quite so obvious alternative to Linux would be to support 
XP, only, for as long as we can.

This is not as strange an idea as it looks.  It may be that we aren't 
the only ones unwilling or unable to enter this brave new world of 
optimizing everything for the record industry.

Plenty of powerful computers (any old 2.4 GHz Pentium is plenty good) 
will exist for some time to come at good prices and virtually all will 
have valid XP licenses when you buy them.  It may be a problem for Flex 
Radio at some point when official consumer support dies, but maybe 
things will straighten out by then.

There's going to be a long delayed rampdown of XP in any event.  For 
reasons entirely unrelated to us, major companies are not going to 
immediately dump XP.

We have a while to think about this -- perhaps a year or two -- and if 
Vista gets in the way, it could be a serious position not to bother with 
it for as long as Gerald can manage it without harming his business.  I 
don't know when that point is, but it isn't today, that's for sure.


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Lyle Johnson]

> Count me in on the groundswell...

Me, too.  I would like a load-the-CD-and-go version that just works. 
Handles the parallel port, or various USB interfaces, knows the popular 
USB knobs and knobs-plus-buttons widgets, handles the various 
(supported) soundcards, understands the HPSDR Janus+Ozy interface...

HNY,

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Ed Haskell]

Me too.

I'm not going to upgrade to Vista and am not anxious to find that I have to
keep a WinXP machine around just because this is no PowerSDR for Linux.

On 1/1/07, John Ackermann N8UR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Count me in on the groundswell...
>
> John
> 
>
> Frank Brickle said the following on 01/01/2007 02:56 PM:
> > If people want a consumer-oriented Linux version, there has to be
> > a groundswell of popular support for it. Otherwise the individual
> > Linux developers are going to continue to write to suit
> > themselves, and that development is, for now, aimed almost
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[KD5NWA]

Frank Brickle wrote:
> Ken --
> 
> The stuff has to be finished and shrink-wrapped first. The
> hardware dependencies aren't big problems.
> 
> The basic issue is that the Linux development has been getting
> little more than crumbs. Brilliant crumbs, to be sure, like John
> Melton, Edson Pereira, and Bob Cowdery. Crumbs nonetheless.
> 
> Every time it's looked like proper attention could be paid to
> really finishing the Linux version (read: I've stamped my feet and
> thrown a tantrum), one fire or another has sprung up on the
> Windows side which drained away any of the available "official"
> resources that could be devoted to Linux. This situation is likely
> to continue unless there is at least *some* demand on the part of
> users or potential users for a quality Linux product.
> 
> One of my New Year's resolutions (actually went into effect a few
> months ago) was to do nothing on the Flex front that wasn't
> directly applicable first and immediately to the new software
> design under Linux. In part this is because none of the really
> interesting pending SDR features (like co-channel interference
> removal or comprehensive automatic signal classification) is worth
> even thinking about under the current design, or under Windows in
> general for that matter. Vista only makes it worse.
> 
> If people want a consumer-oriented Linux version, there has to be
> a groundswell of popular support for it. Otherwise the individual
> Linux developers are going to continue to write to suit
> themselves, and that development is, for now, aimed almost
> exclusively at experimenters.
> 
> 73 and Happy New Year
> Frank
> AB2KT
> 

I  would like to add my voice to the groundswell of demand for a Linux 
version.

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[John Ackermann N8UR]

Count me in on the groundswell...

John


Frank Brickle said the following on 01/01/2007 02:56 PM:
> If people want a consumer-oriented Linux version, there has to be
> a groundswell of popular support for it. Otherwise the individual
> Linux developers are going to continue to write to suit
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Frank Brickle]

Ken --

The stuff has to be finished and shrink-wrapped first. The
hardware dependencies aren't big problems.

The basic issue is that the Linux development has been getting
little more than crumbs. Brilliant crumbs, to be sure, like John
Melton, Edson Pereira, and Bob Cowdery. Crumbs nonetheless.

Every time it's looked like proper attention could be paid to
really finishing the Linux version (read: I've stamped my feet and
thrown a tantrum), one fire or another has sprung up on the
Windows side which drained away any of the available "official"
resources that could be devoted to Linux. This situation is likely
to continue unless there is at least *some* demand on the part of
users or potential users for a quality Linux product.

One of my New Year's resolutions (actually went into effect a few
months ago) was to do nothing on the Flex front that wasn't
directly applicable first and immediately to the new software
design under Linux. In part this is because none of the really
interesting pending SDR features (like co-channel interference
removal or comprehensive automatic signal classification) is worth
even thinking about under the current design, or under Windows in
general for that matter. Vista only makes it worse.

If people want a consumer-oriented Linux version, there has to be
a groundswell of popular support for it. Otherwise the individual
Linux developers are going to continue to write to suit
themselves, and that development is, for now, aimed almost
exclusively at experimenters.

73 and Happy New Year
Frank
AB2KT

Ken N9VV wrote:
> Dear smart Linux guys, I wonder if in the future there might be any 
> chance of a Knoppix LiveCD style setup for PowerSDR?
> 
> It would be so wonderful to have a pre-configured O/S that I can run off 
> my CDROM (or 1GB USB stick) with everything in RAM.
> 
> Perhaps dependencies on parallel port, display, and sound card 
> interfaces makes this impossible?
> 
> TU de ken n9vv
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[Flexradio] Linux DttSP, was Re: vSound update from Phil C. - Windows Vista problems

[Frank Brickle]

KD5NWA wrote:

> By the way,  where is the latest  DttSP binaries and source kept? I'm 
> getting to the point where I want to start getting familiar with it.
> 

svn://206.216.146.154/svn/repos_sdr_dttsp

73
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux, any chance of a knoppix like setup?

[Ken N9VV]

Dear smart Linux guys, I wonder if in the future there might be any 
chance of a Knoppix LiveCD style setup for PowerSDR?

It would be so wonderful to have a pre-configured O/S that I can run off 
my CDROM (or 1GB USB stick) with everything in RAM.

Perhaps dependencies on parallel port, display, and sound card 
interfaces makes this impossible?

TU de ken n9vv

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[Flexradio] Linux (Ubuntu)

[Cliff G3NDC]

I searched the archives on this but could not find confirmation that FlexRadio 
SDR1k would work with Ubuntu. Can someone point me in the right direction



 

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Re: [Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[John Melton]

Everett,

when it is running you should see that the alsa-pcm and sdr- are 
cross connected if you bring up the Connections display in qjackctl (see 
attached image).

You might also want to check that the line input is enabled on the sound 
card and not the microphone input (I assume you are connected to the 
line input).

John g0orx/n6lyt

Everett Palmer wrote On 05/30/06 04:10,:

>Bob,
>
>I switched to pyhw.  I do hear something that sounds like cycling.
>
>I played a wav file (ssb.wav from flex-radio) with xmms feeding qjackctl 
>and then jsdr.
>(On jack I connected alsa-pcm --> sdr-  &   sdr- --> alsa-pcm.)
>
>I then started my sdr-1000 and shut down xmms.   I also started python and 
>cmdr.
>
>On pyhw I executed.
>execfile("sdr1k-setup.py") (with setDDSFreq(0.810)
>
>On cmdr I executed.
>setRXOn 0
>setSampleRate 48000  (I am using a SB MP3+ USB soundcard)
>setOsc 0
>setFilter -3000 3000
>setMode AM
>
>I didn't hear anything interesting - just something that could be described 
>as cycling at about 1 Hz.
>
>Seems like I should have to do something with the qjackctl patch panel to 
>connect up to the sdr-1000.   When I used it with the sdr-1000 it was set 
>up the same as I had it with xmms.
>
>I know I should just wait for the new code but this seems s close to 
>working.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Everett, KG6RYB
>
>
>At 04:46 AM 5/29/2006, Robert McGwier wrote:
>  
>
>>Everett:
>>
>>Do you hear a noise at the output (speakers) that sounds like it is cycling?
>>
>>I used pyhw rather than pyhw2.
>>
>>We are well on our way to replace all of that with code that will talk to 
>>all aspects of the radio including amplifier,  ATU, and transverter.
>>
>>Bob
>>N4HY
>>
>>
>>Everett Palmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Ken,
>>>
>>>I am basing the fact that it is possible to drive the SDR-1000 hardware 
>>>  
>>>
>>>from Linux on this post from Bob McGwier back in January.
>>
>>
>>>"The Mini-ITX, running SUSE 9.3 carries Don Imus 660 AM every morning 
>>>using SDR-1000 number 2 running jsdr, jack."
>>>
>>>I am trying to use the code in the pyhw2 directory to control the 
>>>SDR-1000 hardware over the parallel port.  I can issue commands and hear 
>>>the relays click in the SDR-1000 but I have not been successful yet in 
>>>receiving an AM radio station.   There is also another command line 
>>>interface- cmdr - in the DttSP package but I think that this interface 
>>>controls just the software - not the hardware.
>>>
>>>One problem was that ubuntu on my system does not have 
>>>/dev/parport0.   With some help from Bill on teamspeak and my linux guy 
>>>at work I learned that you can create the port with either:
>>>
>>>sudo modeprobe ppdev
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>sudo mknod /dev/parport0 c 99 0
>>>
>>>I also did a
>>>
>>>sudo chown epalmer:epalmer parport0
>>>
>>>so I could drive the parallel port from my user account.
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Everett, KG6RYB
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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>>NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman
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>>
>>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[Everett Palmer]

Bob,

I switched to pyhw.  I do hear something that sounds like cycling.

I played a wav file (ssb.wav from flex-radio) with xmms feeding qjackctl 
and then jsdr.
(On jack I connected alsa-pcm --> sdr-  &   sdr- --> alsa-pcm.)

I then started my sdr-1000 and shut down xmms.   I also started python and 
cmdr.

On pyhw I executed.
execfile("sdr1k-setup.py") (with setDDSFreq(0.810)

On cmdr I executed.
setRXOn 0
setSampleRate 48000  (I am using a SB MP3+ USB soundcard)
setOsc 0
setFilter -3000 3000
setMode AM

I didn't hear anything interesting - just something that could be described 
as cycling at about 1 Hz.

Seems like I should have to do something with the qjackctl patch panel to 
connect up to the sdr-1000.   When I used it with the sdr-1000 it was set 
up the same as I had it with xmms.

I know I should just wait for the new code but this seems s close to 
working.

Thanks,

Everett, KG6RYB


At 04:46 AM 5/29/2006, Robert McGwier wrote:
>Everett:
>
>Do you hear a noise at the output (speakers) that sounds like it is cycling?
>
>I used pyhw rather than pyhw2.
>
>We are well on our way to replace all of that with code that will talk to 
>all aspects of the radio including amplifier,  ATU, and transverter.
>
>Bob
>N4HY
>
>
>Everett Palmer wrote:
>>Hi Ken,
>>
>>I am basing the fact that it is possible to drive the SDR-1000 hardware 
>>from Linux on this post from Bob McGwier back in January.
>>
>>"The Mini-ITX, running SUSE 9.3 carries Don Imus 660 AM every morning 
>>using SDR-1000 number 2 running jsdr, jack."
>>
>>I am trying to use the code in the pyhw2 directory to control the 
>>SDR-1000 hardware over the parallel port.  I can issue commands and hear 
>>the relays click in the SDR-1000 but I have not been successful yet in 
>>receiving an AM radio station.   There is also another command line 
>>interface- cmdr - in the DttSP package but I think that this interface 
>>controls just the software - not the hardware.
>>
>>One problem was that ubuntu on my system does not have 
>>/dev/parport0.   With some help from Bill on teamspeak and my linux guy 
>>at work I learned that you can create the port with either:
>>
>>sudo modeprobe ppdev
>>
>>or
>>
>>sudo mknod /dev/parport0 c 99 0
>>
>>I also did a
>>
>>sudo chown epalmer:epalmer parport0
>>
>>so I could drive the parallel port from my user account.
>>
>>73,
>>Everett, KG6RYB
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[Robert McGwier]

Everett:

Do you hear a noise at the output (speakers) that sounds like it is cycling?

I used pyhw rather than pyhw2.

We are well on our way to replace all of that with code that will talk 
to all aspects of the radio including amplifier,  ATU, and transverter.

Bob
N4HY


Everett Palmer wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I am basing the fact that it is possible to drive the SDR-1000 hardware 
> from Linux on this post from Bob McGwier back in January.
>
> "The Mini-ITX, running SUSE 9.3 carries Don Imus 660 AM every morning using 
> SDR-1000 number 2 running jsdr, jack."
>
> I am trying to use the code in the pyhw2 directory to control the SDR-1000 
> hardware over the parallel port.  I can issue commands and hear the relays 
> click in the SDR-1000 but I have not been successful yet in receiving an AM 
> radio station.   There is also another command line interface- cmdr - in 
> the DttSP package but I think that this interface controls just the 
> software - not the hardware.
>
> One problem was that ubuntu on my system does not have 
> /dev/parport0.   With some help from Bill on teamspeak and my linux guy at 
> work I learned that you can create the port with either:
>
> sudo modeprobe ppdev
>
> or
>
> sudo mknod /dev/parport0 c 99 0
>
> I also did a
>
> sudo chown epalmer:epalmer parport0
>
> so I could drive the parallel port from my user account.
>
> 73,
> Everett, KG6RYB
>
>   


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[John Melton]

Hi Everett,

you will need to use both the python script to control the parallel 
interface to select the band and the DDS frequency.  You will need to 
use the cmdr script to control the jsdr software.

To receive an AM signal you would need to send the following commands 
using the cmdr script:

setRXOn 0
setSampleRate 96000  (or 48000 depending on your soundcard)
setOsc 0
setFilter -3000 3000
setMode AM

This is assuming that you do now want to offset the received frequency 
from the DDS frequency to move away from the noise at the 0 Hz IF.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

John g0orx/n6lyt



Everett Palmer wrote On 05/29/06 08:15,:

>I am trying to operate my SDR-1000 from Ubuntu Linux with the command line 
>interface.
>Could some one tell me the commands listening to an AM radio station?
>Also do I need to use both the cmdr shell script and the pyhw2 python script?
>Thanks,
>Everett, KG6RYB
>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[Everett Palmer]

Hi Ken,

I am basing the fact that it is possible to drive the SDR-1000 hardware 
from Linux on this post from Bob McGwier back in January.

"The Mini-ITX, running SUSE 9.3 carries Don Imus 660 AM every morning using 
SDR-1000 number 2 running jsdr, jack."

I am trying to use the code in the pyhw2 directory to control the SDR-1000 
hardware over the parallel port.  I can issue commands and hear the relays 
click in the SDR-1000 but I have not been successful yet in receiving an AM 
radio station.   There is also another command line interface- cmdr - in 
the DttSP package but I think that this interface controls just the 
software - not the hardware.

One problem was that ubuntu on my system does not have 
/dev/parport0.   With some help from Bill on teamspeak and my linux guy at 
work I learned that you can create the port with either:

sudo modeprobe ppdev

or

sudo mknod /dev/parport0 c 99 0

I also did a

sudo chown epalmer:epalmer parport0

so I could drive the parallel port from my user account.

73,
Everett, KG6RYB




At 10:22 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:
>How in the world are you controlling the parallel interface?
>as far as I know, there aren't any SDR-1000s running on Linux.
>BK de Ken
>
>
>Everett Palmer wrote:
>>I am trying to operate my SDR-1000 from Ubuntu Linux with the command 
>>line interface.
>>Could some one tell me the commands listening to an AM radio station?
>>Also do I need to use both the cmdr shell script and the pyhw2 python script?
>>Thanks,
>>Everett, KG6RYB
>>
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[Flexradio] Linux - DttSP question: Commands to listen to AM radio?

[Everett Palmer]

I am trying to operate my SDR-1000 from Ubuntu Linux with the command line 
interface.
Could some one tell me the commands listening to an AM radio station?
Also do I need to use both the cmdr shell script and the pyhw2 python script?
Thanks,
Everett, KG6RYB



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[Flexradio] Linux SDR group

[KD5NWA]

Is the Linux SDR group meeting tonight on Teamspeak?

I need some assistance in installing Ubuntu on a PC with a RAID controller.

Thanks


Cecil Bayona
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Distro

[Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio]

My understanding is that there are not currently Linux drivers for the
FireBox.  


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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> 
> So does Ubuntu support the D44 and the firebox and
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Wishes

[Robert McGwier]

Well,  Mike King, Terry VB, and Tony Parks and VHF UHF SHF users of SDR 
made that job easy.I just told and showed them what others were 
doing and how they might accomplish the same thing.  I hope next week at 
Southeast goes as well.


Bob



Philip M. Lanese wrote:

Bob,
>From what I heard from W1COT Bob extolling your Talk/Demo at the NEWS Conf to
W8ANS Andy on our 'old geezers net' this morning, it generated a LOT of interest
in the "new" SDR code possibilities for weak sig work.

Glad they got a chance to hear what I have been telling them about for the last
few years.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message -
From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


  

Stan:

Have a good time with it.  I am certain it will run all of our code just
fine.

Bob





  



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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Wishes

[Philip M. Lanese]

Bob,
>From what I heard from W1COT Bob extolling your Talk/Demo at the NEWS Conf to
W8ANS Andy on our 'old geezers net' this morning, it generated a LOT of interest
in the "new" SDR code possibilities for weak sig work.

Glad they got a chance to hear what I have been telling them about for the last
few years.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message -
From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Stan:
>
> Have a good time with it.  I am certain it will run all of our code just
> fine.
>
> Bob

Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

[Philip M. Lanese]

Me TOO! so I downloaded it to my server for a try at a LAN install.

Phil, K3IB

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros


> No, but you can if you want to.  I really like Ubunto and I do like Free 
> as in Beer and Air both.
> 
> Bob

Re: [Flexradio] Linux Wishes

[Robert McGwier]

Stan:

Have a good time with it.  I am certain it will run all of our code just 
fine.


Bob


Stan wrote:

On Sunday 23 April 2006 08:11 am, Robert McGwier wrote:
  

You can call me Ray,  you can call me Jay, but you doesn't have to call
me  LEE NOOKS or L eye Nucks,  etc.  What you have to do is enjoy the ride!

These folks do appear to be enjoying the ride life is giving them:

http://www.ubuntu.com/


I say  oo (as in b *oo*  k)  BUN TOO and who knows if that is right?  My
ancient and even modern  African  dialects are a little rusty!

Bob



FWIW I have been using Linux since 1995-1996

I started with RedHat - then found Mandrake (now known as Mandriva)

I have tried many of the different linux distros but always come back to 
Mandrake/Mandriva.


I have found issues with most of the other distros that have turned me away 
from them.


If I had to chose one distro it would be Mandriva. Easy to install, fast & 
very stable.


I did burn some live CD's recently so I could check out some of the others 
including ubuntu, and they just are not as good in my opinion.


Stan
AH6JR

  



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