Re: New PowerBooks
From: Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since you suggest that you will always have access to Tiger, there really isn't much of a reason to wait for it to be pre-installed on the PB's is there ? If the 1.5 GHz is going to suit your needs, I'd say go and buy one so you can start enjoying it now ! That's sort my feelings too as the line has been what seems seriously revised, and I'm getting an external +/- dual layer FW/USB 2 box, so I'll always be going for the combo version. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
anyone know the usual ship time from China? On Feb 16, 2005, at 01:31, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since you suggest that you will always have access to Tiger, there really isn't much of a reason to wait for it to be pre-installed on the PB's is there ? If the 1.5 GHz is going to suit your needs, I'd say go and buy one so you can start enjoying it now ! That's sort my feelings too as the line has been what seems seriously revised, and I'm getting an external +/- dual layer FW/USB 2 box, so I'll always be going for the combo version. Larry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that warped, making the machine wobble on a flat surface. SOme did it, some didn't, but the problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler. Could this apply to the rev.B (?) 1GHz 12 ? I bought one second hand, the one with the dent that we were discussing, and yes the cows did come home... It was warped where it would weigh on a flat surface. I just put it on two high point where it was lowest and pressed hard down, straightened it out a treat!! :o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there. IBM has 1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well. I have always been puzzled by this. Always been a sole Mac user in a PC world I have always ahd to try and hide my 1024 pixel issue on my PowerBook G3 while everyone else's Dell's and stuff had much more, and now with 1280 on my 15 at work, nothing compared to the other guys 1600 or even 1900 or whatever. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 2/16/05 5:13 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there. IBM has 1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well. I have always been puzzled by this. Always been a sole Mac user in a PC world I have always ahd to try and hide my 1024 pixel issue on my PowerBook G3 while everyone else's Dell's and stuff had much more, and now with 1280 on my 15 at work, nothing compared to the other guys 1600 or even 1900 or whatever. But what do you get with a 14 display with a 1600x1200 res other than the right to say mine is bigger than yours? Do you actually get more usable screen real estate or do you just wind up setting word to 150% magnification so you can read the text, which of course puts you back to square one? The PC notebook that was dumped on my desk last spring has specs that make it seem much better than an iBook or PowerBook but it fails the usability test. PC manufactures are still stuck in the bigger faster = better mode. Add more features and it is better. Like Creative and all the other mp3 player goons they don't understand the whole thing is a package and less can actually be more. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 16-Feb-05, at 1:31 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since you suggest that you will always have access to Tiger, there really isn't much of a reason to wait for it to be pre-installed on the PB's is there ? If the 1.5 GHz is going to suit your needs, I'd say go and buy one so you can start enjoying it now ! That's sort my feelings too as the line has been what seems seriously revised, and I'm getting an external +/- dual layer FW/USB 2 box, so I'll always be going for the combo version. Great !! I really hope you enjoy your new PB, Larry !! I wish I could have waited to buy my PB but my 500 mhz iMac was sorely underpowered for my graphics programs and I was really needing something portable. At the time, the 1.25 gig Al PB's seemed a great buy (and I am still very happy with it but envy you being able to get the 1.5 Ghz PB !). Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 06:57 To: G-Books Subject: Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0 But what do you get with a 14 display with a 1600x1200 res other than the right to say mine is bigger than yours? Do you actually get more usable screen real estate or do you just wind up setting word to 150% magnification so you can read the text, which of course puts you back to square one? I use my 15 1600x1200 laptop on a daily basis, with no magnification. It is perfectly usable to be and the 5 other people at the office with the same laptop. At the same time we constantly get asked how we can see our screens... but the people asking are also the ones who run their 19 LCDs at 800x600 and complain about wanting a bigger screen. The extra screen space is just so useful. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 16-Feb-05, at 8:43 AM, Andrew F. wrote: I have laptops of different sizes, and find my ThinkPad about the same size as the 15 PowerBook (a tad taller, but narrower) and actually a few ounces lighter. There would be no real difference in bulk or weight between the ThinkPad and a 15 PowerBook, but when it comes time to fly, the 12 PowerBook wins every time. It was designed for travel, while the larger ones are designed to be used at least on a table, if not a desk. Hi Andrew, I agree the 17 would be more difficult to use on a plane and certainly not as portable. I have never had problems using the 15 on a plane. The pull out trays are just the right size for it and It was clearly designed for portability as well. I find the small 12 screen causes too much eye strain, especially on a plane where the ride is not always smooth in the first place. I think there is a strong argument for personal preference here. I regularly walk around with my 15 PB locally and don't find it problematic at all. It is fairly easy to conceal not that heavy, although I wouldn't want to be walking for miles with it on my shoulder. This is the only computer I own. I thought I would need to get a monitor almost immediately but when I received my PB, the screen just seemed so big. A year later, I still don't have an external monitor but I do plan to get one shortly as I am doing more intensive photo restoration projects now and really need a 19-20 external monitor. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
All depends on the work you do and the quality of your eyes. Its the same issue with my 12 PowerBook. I zoom my word docs to 140% and usually magnify web pages, but I still wouldn't trade it for 800X600 which would have a similar effect, but force me to use horizontal scrolling on most websites. High resolution screens don't give much benefit for working in Word or on the web, but for graphics or movies they really are nice. Andrew On 2/16/05 3:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/05 5:13 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there. IBM has 1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well. I have always been puzzled by this. Always been a sole Mac user in a PC world I have always ahd to try and hide my 1024 pixel issue on my PowerBook G3 while everyone else's Dell's and stuff had much more, and now with 1280 on my 15 at work, nothing compared to the other guys 1600 or even 1900 or whatever. But what do you get with a 14 display with a 1600x1200 res other than the right to say mine is bigger than yours? Do you actually get more usable screen real estate or do you just wind up setting word to 150% magnification so you can read the text, which of course puts you back to square one? The PC notebook that was dumped on my desk last spring has specs that make it seem much better than an iBook or PowerBook but it fails the usability test. PC manufactures are still stuck in the bigger faster = better mode. Add more features and it is better. Like Creative and all the other mp3 player goons they don't understand the whole thing is a package and less can actually be more. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:26 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Let me guess, you're young and your eyes are still good, right? ;-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
There were some (my first one was replaced for it), but it was rare on Rev B models. It can still occur on any of the aluminum PBs if the user has a habbit of grabbing the open PowerBook and carrying it around by the palmrest on one side, causing the weight of the machine to slowly and ever-so-slightly (doesn't take much) bend the case. Andrew On 2/16/05 1:36 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that warped, making the machine wobble on a flat surface. SOme did it, some didn't, but the problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler. Could this apply to the rev.B (?) 1GHz 12 ? I bought one second hand, the one with the dent that we were discussing, and yes the cows did come home... It was warped where it would weigh on a flat surface. I just put it on two high point where it was lowest and pressed hard down, straightened it out a treat!! :o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
I have laptops of different sizes, and find my ThinkPad about the same size as the 15 PowerBook (a tad taller, but narrower) and actually a few ounces lighter. There would be no real difference in bulk or weight between the ThinkPad and a 15 PowerBook, but when it comes time to fly, the 12 PowerBook wins every time. It was designed for travel, while the larger ones are designed to be used at least on a table, if not a desk. Of course you can use the 17 on an airplane, but it wasn't designed for that. The 17 is the one least likely to need a lighted keyboard (they put it there for the wow-factor), while the 12 is the one that would most benefit (though they left it off to make people want to spend more). Andrew On 2/16/05 8:09 AM, Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 11:49 AM, Andrew wrote: Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an airplane, it is the one most in need of the lighted keyboard. I use a USB flylight (or my ThinkPad) Andrew I don't think this is completely true - I very rarely see the 12 PB's or iBooks etc on planes. The 15 is well suited to travel and really is not that much heavier. I take mine all over the place and I don't even have a car ! The backlighting is definitely a great feature for those who don't touch type and will be using their PB's in poor lighting conditions. Although I do type proficiently, I got it anyway as I figured it could be a good selling point when it comes time for me to upgrade to a newer PB. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip causing the weight of the machine to slowly and ever-so-slightly (doesn't take much) bend the case. Fortunately, ever so easy to bend back. Two magazines, one in each low corner and a push... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
Why get a larger one? More processing power than the 12 model? a laptop that I don't have to crouch in on my lap in order to keep it from falling off? BTW, I wish I had sprung for that superdrive now, sure would have come in handy a few weeks ago. Brian On Feb 16, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:26 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Let me guess, you're young and your eyes are still good, right? ;-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Ph Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] High resolution screens don't give much benefit for working in Word or on the web Strongly disagree! Well, if you like me want to see the bigger picture while working and not just zoom in on a small portion, and then out and in... I write manuals in Word on my 15 AlBook and it's just enough where I can see WHAT I'm writing/inserting while also seeing the actualy page layout. I'd go mad on a 1024x768 screen. Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
I just thank God for progressive bi-focals. I use the 12 inch iBook and find that the 1024 x 768 display is just fine for my needs. I can use Word, browse the web and read email just fine with it sitting on my lap (doing so right now) and I can see the screen just fine. I love all of my Macs...I do feel sorry for my G5 20 inch iMac which sits in my office neglected while I mostly sit out in my family room using the iBook Tim Collier On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, at 11:43AM, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have laptops of different sizes, and find my ThinkPad about the same size as the 15 PowerBook (a tad taller, but narrower) and actually a few ounces lighter. There would be no real difference in bulk or weight between the ThinkPad and a 15 PowerBook, but when it comes time to fly, the 12 PowerBook wins every time. It was designed for travel, while the larger ones are designed to be used at least on a table, if not a desk. Of course you can use the 17 on an airplane, but it wasn't designed for that. The 17 is the one least likely to need a lighted keyboard (they put it there for the wow-factor), while the 12 is the one that would most benefit (though they left it off to make people want to spend more). Andrew On 2/16/05 8:09 AM, Amber R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 11:49 AM, Andrew wrote: Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an airplane, it is the one most in need of the lighted keyboard. I use a USB flylight (or my ThinkPad) Andrew Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:36 AM, Jason Rife wrote: anyone know the usual ship time from China? 3 p.m. :-) FWIW it took about 8 days for me to get mine from the time I ordered it until the time it arrived. I believe 4-5 days of that was travel time but I don't remember exactly. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On Feb 16, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Tim Collier wrote: I do feel sorry for my G5 20 inch iMac which sits in my office neglected while I mostly sit out in my family room using the iBook You really shouldn't neglect it like that send it to me and I'll play with it every day. I'll even pay shipping. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Feb 16, 2005, at 6:59 PM, G-Books wrote: From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New PowerBooks Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:32:32 -0500 On Feb 16, 2005, at 4:36 AM, Jason Rife wrote: anyone know the usual ship time from China? 3 p.m. :-) FWIW it took about 8 days for me to get mine from the time I ordered it until the time it arrived. I believe 4-5 days of that was travel time but I don't remember exactly. TjL Remember also that it's the New Year holiday there, most businesses are closed until the 18th. And they have been since the 7th (our time on the West coast of USA). --- JSH TiBook Trouble is only opportunity in work clothes. (Henry J. Kaiser) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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I am impatiently waiting for my 12 refurb from Sacramento, CA. They have delayed it now to the 23rd, when it was the ship on Monday overnight! I need my PB! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now, and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile. Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size... 12 or 15 The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 15/02/05 12:34, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now, and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile. Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size... 12 or 15 The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages... Larry, Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the office and back home every single day... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the office and back home every single day... This is one of the main issues, yes! I have now had a 12 and use a 15 1GHz AlBook at work and the desktop realestate is quite different. The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the patio and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15 I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd like to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study... Like I said, the illuminated keyboard is a big one for me. Gigabit Ethernet another, as FW800 and S-video out. And I've just realised one of the real killers in the decision, the RAM!! The 12 has 2x256 while the 15 has 1x512, making it much cheaper to add more memory!!! I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase; As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with Tiger installed ?!? I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...) ;o) but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Good for you! For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would the larger screen. Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the 12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad. What it really came down to was comfort. I've owned the 12 (1GHz) for a year and found that it really fit my lifestyle. It is small enough to take almost everywhere, and as a result, it is always there when I need it. I've had machines the size of the 15 before (T-series ThinkPad was my preferred laptop in my Windows days) and while only around 5lbs and not too bulky, it was just large enough that I often left it at home. The little PowerBook, on the other hand, is actually small enough that I don't bother with a PDA anymore. The screen on the 12 is fine (as you probably know). It may be inadequate if you do heavy content creation, but considering that until the Titanium came out 1024X768 was the best you could do on a Mac laptop anyway, it remains plenty for most of what a laptop is used for. I only want more resolution when doing things like video editing, for which I just plug in my external monitor. Andrew On 2/15/05 9:34 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now, and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile. Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size... 12 or 15 The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 15/02/05 12:50, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the office and back home every single day... This is one of the main issues, yes! I have now had a 12 and use a 15 1GHz AlBook at work and the desktop realestate is quite different. The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the patio and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15 I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd like to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study... Like I said, the illuminated keyboard is a big one for me. Gigabit Ethernet another, as FW800 and S-video out. And I've just realised one of the real killers in the decision, the RAM!! The 12 has 2x256 while the 15 has 1x512, making it much cheaper to add more memory!!! I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase; As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with Tiger installed ?!? I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...) ;o) but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!... There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger is not ready for prime time yet. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger is not ready for prime time yet. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge. Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software. Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger is not ready for prime time yet. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge. Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software. Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing. TjL That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but maybe not as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a bit after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first generation was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium casing. But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started appearing and I've never wanted to get one at that time... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. My decision is combo either way as I want an external FW/USB2 dual layer +/- drive which I can use on any of the Macs in the house. --- The lighted keyboard would be nice More than nice for me, very practical. No light required. Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. My decision is combo either way as I want an external FW/USB2 dual layer +/- drive which I can use on any of the Macs in the house. --- The lighted keyboard would be nice More than nice for me, very practical. No light required. Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Yes, been there done that. Bought my TiBook 550 three weeks before they fitted it with Combo and bought my 15 AlBook a couple of weeks before they fitted it with SuperDrive (I thin it was, or was there some other upgrade on the standard machine ?) In any case, the cash burning a hole in my pocket and my wife's student discount does point towards an imminent purchase as soon as I'm allowed out of the house. I am currently housebound due to a 4 nail in my shoulder (intentially fitted to reconnect my shoulder after a motorbike accident...)... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 15 Feb 2005, at 18:53, G-Books wrote: The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the patio and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15 I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd like to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study... This is my wife's setup and I am becoming a believer. I love the 12 form factor for travel, work in non-desk situations (plane, train, coffee shop, airport, living room sofa, etc.) and for when you're at home/office, a nice 17 external TFT monitor (they have really come down in price too!) gives you a superb 29 of screen real estate (if you have monitor spanning, which even my wife's G3/900 iBook has, thanks to the spanning hack) all for a lot less than the $3000 sticker price of a 30-inch cinema HD! (not a fair comparison, I know, but the wife's setup is outstanding value at about $750 for the whole lot: used iBook and new Samsung 17 LCD). Everyone's needs are different, obviously. I'm now keeping my eyes peeled for a super deal on used 12 AlBook 1Ghz and up, with DVI for an external monitor. Sweet. Chris -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15-Feb-05, at 12:34 PM, Larry le Mac wrote: The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages... The only thing better than an illuminated keyboard is not needing one in the first place, because you touch-type... But chances are if you truly do touch type without having to look at the keys at all, you type Dvorak, which has more freak factor than cool factor, unlike the illuminated keyboard. I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since even my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
From: Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge. I am inclined to agreen as the current lineup have been seriously upgraded and have some really nice features that were pay-extra before. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15/02/05 14:23, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Yes, been there done that. Bought my TiBook 550 three weeks before they fitted it with Combo and bought my 15 AlBook a couple of weeks before they fitted it with SuperDrive (I thin it was, or was there some other upgrade on the standard machine ?) In any case, the cash burning a hole in my pocket and my wife's student discount does point towards an imminent purchase as soon as I'm allowed out of the house. I am currently housebound due to a 4 nail in my shoulder (intentially fitted to reconnect my shoulder after a motorbike accident...)... Sell the motorbike, you'll have enough cash to go all the way to the 17 And no more dealing with 4 nails in your shoulders! ;-) -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote: For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would the larger screen. Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the 12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad. As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15/02/05 14:26, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote: For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would the larger screen. Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the 12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad. As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? I would imagine that 14 1024 x 768 LCD displays are pretty cheap these days. As soon as they would go up, then that would mean a more expensive iBook 14. Plus, I'm not saying that they don't exist, but I've rarely seen a 14 LCD display with a higher resolution than 1024 x 768. Cost must be involved. I guess that a 14 iBook makes sense for people that want a slightly larger image or a more actual size of what's on the screen. At 1024 x 768 on the 12, everything appears smaller than it is actually... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sell the motorbike, you'll have enough cash to go all the way to the 17 It wasn't a normal motorbike, it was speedway (dirt track in the US) www.speedwayworld.tv Though not at that level... Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:23, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since even my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated... Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an airplane, it is the one most in need of the lighted keyboard. I use a USB flylight (or my ThinkPad) Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:26, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the most important being that it is easier on the eyes. My 12 PoewrBook and 14 Lombard have the same 1024X768 resolution (I think the Lombard uses the same screen as the 14 iBook), and while the available real estate is exactly the same, the 14 is a lot nicer when working at a desk or reading text. On the 12, I end up zooming the text on most websites and usually have my word documents set to 140% magnification (plenty of real estate for that), and end up with nice, readable text. On the 14 I do the same, mainly out of habit, and end up with giant-size text that is a pleasure to read, but looks freakishly large. The 12 is definitely adequate, but the 14 is just a lot more relaxing. Of course, the price is bulk. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:32, Laurent Daudelin wrote: I would imagine that 14 1024 x 768 LCD displays are pretty cheap these days. As soon as they would go up, then that would mean a more expensive iBook 14. Plus, I'm not saying that they don't exist, but I've rarely seen a 14 LCD display with a higher resolution than 1024 x 768. Cost must be involved. There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there. IBM has 1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well. I guess that a 14 iBook makes sense for people that want a slightly larger image or a more actual size of what's on the screen. At 1024 x 768 on the 12, everything appears smaller than it is actually... Thats the whole point of the 14 iBook, larger image. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 15:01 To: G-Books Subject: Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0 There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there. IBM has 1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well. -- Yeah I love my (work's) Dell Insprion 8200's 15 1600x1200 display I really wish I could get a PowerBook with one. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15-Feb-05, at 2:49 PM, Andrew wrote: I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since even my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated... Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an airplane, it is the one most in need of the lighted keyboard. I use a USB flylight (or my ThinkPad) I had no problem typing on it, thanks to the Dvorak layout, it just didn't look so damn cool. My iBook doesn't taunt me with looking like it has the capability. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15-Feb-05, at 2:54 PM, Andrew wrote: There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the most important being that it is easier on the eyes. I'll take easier on the back and shoulders carrying it around, personally! But I guess some people leave them parked more than me... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15 Feb 2005 at 15:43, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 2:54 PM, Andrew wrote: There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the most important being that it is easier on the eyes. I'll take easier on the back and shoulders carrying it around, personally! But I guess some people leave them parked more than me... Me too, that's why I bought the 12 PowerBook, TWICE! Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)
On 15 Feb 2005, at 20:21, G-Books wrote: The 12 is definitely adequate, but the 14 is just a lot more relaxing. Of course, the price is bulk. Andrew I would love to see a 13.3 low- and wide-screen iBook with a 1280x800 resolution. Played around with a Sony Vaio with that screen in a computer store and it was very nice, apart from the XP on the notebook. Cool black case too. Chris -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 2/15/05 2:26 PM, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? Old eyes? I found the 14 easier to read than the 12. Also, taking advantage of the extra size, the battery is larger so battery life is significantly improved. Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? Apple can - but keeping the iBook at 1024x768 is a way of differentiating the iBook from the PowerBook line. Already the line is seriously blurred at the 12 line. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
At 2:26 PM -0500 2/15/05, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote: For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15 (combodrive) this time around. The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would the larger screen. Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the 12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad. As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook? Their max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right? Unless you got it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk? To have a bigger screen!. I have a 14 iBook (the machine I'm using now) and have used a 12 iBook. While the 12 has a very good screen I wouldn't want to stare at it for extended periods. IIRC you can special order the SuperDrive in an iBook 12. Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? Because then they would be PowerBooks. Apple runs a fine line between putting enough features in the iBook line and not encroaching on the PowerBook line. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0
On 15-Feb-05, at 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways? Apple can - but keeping the iBook at 1024x768 is a way of differentiating the iBook from the PowerBook line. Already the line is seriously blurred at the 12 line. Which is why when I wanted a faster machine, my 12 PB became a 12 iBook...since I don't use Bluetooth and the PB didn't have a SuperDrive anyways, and I need something compact... A 14 screen at a bit higher resolution in an iBook price range might have made me consider it a bit longer than the half second I did, probably still wouldn't have bought it, though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase; As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with Tiger installed ?!? I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...) ;o) but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!... Larry Larry, Since you suggest that you will always have access to Tiger, there really isn't much of a reason to wait for it to be pre-installed on the PB's is there ? If the 1.5 GHz is going to suit your needs, I'd say go and buy one so you can start enjoying it now ! Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:46:32 -0500 Subject: Re: New PowerBooks From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger is not ready for prime time yet. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge. Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software. Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing. TjL That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but maybe not as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a bit after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first generation was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium casing. But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started appearing and I've never wanted to get one at that time... -Laurent. I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all over the net, Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as the first PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those problems were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, now it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, my office mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also smooth as silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
Sometimes they are fine, but your chances of trouble are reduced by going with a mature product. Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that warped, making the machine wobble on a flat surface. SOme did it, some didn't, but the problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler. Andrew On 16 Feb 2005 at 9:49, bee wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:46:32 -0500 Subject: Re: New PowerBooks From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger is not ready for prime time yet. But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait... Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge. Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software. Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing. TjL That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but maybe not as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a bit after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first generation was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium casing. But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started appearing and I've never wanted to get one at that time... -Laurent. I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all over the net, Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as the first PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those problems were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, now it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, my office mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also smooth as silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On Feb 15, 2005, at 7:49 PM, bee wrote: I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all over the net, Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as the first PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those problems were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, now it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, my office mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also smooth as silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth. Ok, do you realize you're contradicting yourself? You say There were problems with Rev A that were fixed and therefore Rev A concerns are a myth HUH? Ok, from the time that the first Ti500s came out until it was fixed, there were Rev A problems. Once that was fixed, I would no longer consider that Rev A (maybe Rev A.1 or Rev A.01 or something). I'm not saying All of the entire batch of Rev A G5 Powerbooks will be bad What I am saying is, Given the history of Rev A products writ large [which have ranged from CD ejection to paint coming off to weak battery life / wifi signal], if you are looking to buy a Powerbook and will buy one of the first batch off the presses [Rev A.0], you have a much higher likelihood of running into problems than you do if you were to buy a G4 Powerbook at this point when the line is fairly well polished. Does buying Rev A guarantee you problems and buying Rev Z guarantee you won't have problems? Heck no. But I'll stand by my suggestion that you'd be better off, statistically speaking, to avoid the potential problems. Saying Rev A problems are a myth is absurd. There's far too much evidence to the contrary. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15-Feb-05, at 8:06 PM, Andrew wrote: Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that warped, making the machine wobble on a flat surface. SOme did it, some didn't, but the problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler. No warping, but I've gotten mild burns through jeans while using the one I had on my lap...had no idea that any of the newer metal 12 ones were better, hence the iBook... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
They seem to run cooler every revision. I tried the Rev A in the Apple Store and after just ten minutes playng with iTunes and exploring Jaguar the machine was scalding hot (I didn't buy it). I did buy the Rev B 12 last year, and it did get rather warm, but nowhere near as bad as the Rev A models. I bought the Rev D two-weeks-ago, and despite a 50% faster processor, it runs at about the same temperature as the Rev B, or maybe a little cooler (on account of the processor not being pushed as hard?). They have definitely improved the product during the production run, but more than the added features, the Rev B model had a totally new system board design that addressed the majority of the heat issues. Andrew On 2/15/05 5:42 PM, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Feb-05, at 8:06 PM, Andrew wrote: Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that warped, making the machine wobble on a flat surface. SOme did it, some didn't, but the problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler. No warping, but I've gotten mild burns through jeans while using the one I had on my lap...had no idea that any of the newer metal 12 ones were better, hence the iBook... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
On 15-Feb-05, at 4:49 PM, bee wrote: I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all over the net, Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as the first PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those problems were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, now it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, my office mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also smooth as silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth. Brian Well - sometimes you get a Rev A that gives you no trouble at all but it seems most have some sort of problem initially. Even you admit that the first Ti 500 had problems with rejecting CD's.I still think it's wise to go with a product that has gone through a reasonable trial period. I don't agree that the Rev A comments are a myth. They are backed by fact and personal experience from hundred's of Apple consumers. Amber BTW...you sort of contradict yourself in your comments. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New PowerBooks
well, I chose the 15 myself, its on its way from china right now... with the superdrive got it with a gov't employee discount, under 2k the way I ordered it.. On Feb 15, 2005, at 09:34, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now, and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile. Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size... 12 or 15 The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages... Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New PowerBooks
Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now, and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile. The computer is noticeably faster (50% speed boost), but that is to be expected. What makes this a worthwhile upgrade are the little changes. Haivng a 5400RPM hard drive is a big improvement (I did the same upgrade to my Rev B last year), and the new two-finger scrolling is fabulous. What I like most, however, is the keyboard. WHen I first bought it I mentioned that the keyboard has a different feel and that I made more typos. As predicted, it took me about three or four days to get used to it, and my typos have decreased to about my usual number. What has really benefitted though is my speed. The action of the new keys really is better, with a nice spring in them that makes it easy to move on to the next one and know whether or not the key registered. It actually reminds me of the positive action of the old Apple Extended Keyboard 2 (the USS Nimitz), not that it feels the same, but that it is equally positive and like the aircraft carrier, has a nice, soft key sound as well. So, there it is. Of course it still has all of the compromises that the 12 PowerBook always had, though that's why Apple offers three sizes. I seriously considered moving up to the 15 this time, but I already own a large laptop with an excellent keyboard for when I need one, and this machine is meant for travelling. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Apr 19, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/ [which you are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web design. It was the late 1990s.) I wish there were more such 'mockable' web sites on the net...neat, easy to read, fast, simple navigation...That is not primitive design, it is classic design, and should be emulated. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On 4/20/04, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 19, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/ [which you are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web design. It was the late 1990s.) I wish there were more such 'mockable' web sites on the net...neat, easy to read, fast, simple navigation...That is not primitive design, it is classic design, and should be emulated. /rant/ I'd take that site over some of the (can we call them 'bloatware'?) sites with gigantic Flash animations that take so long to load (even on DSL). I'm with Bruce - more power to easy-to-load, easy-to-navigate sites! /rant off/ My .02, Jim Rohde -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)
Doubling a processor speed usually does not result in doubling the computer speed because the rest of the computer does not keep up proportionately. With a powerbook, it helps to have a faster drive because of the slowness of the laptop drives in general. From what I have read, the G4s are still going strong, and they should ramp up over 2Gs later on. Motorola announced some super-low-power versions of the G4 a couple of months ago. I was wondering what was the power consumption of these new laptops--or if we must wait longer for the new chips. -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY TjL Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine... --- JSH TiBook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 02:28:48PM -0700, Jeff Hubatka wrote: : : Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't : think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out : last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine... 1. Apple is still trying to fit the G5 into a PowerBook and resolve little things like heat dissipation. 2. IBM is having problems ramping up G5 production. Sampling rates are still low. Otherwise, we would start seeing 3 GHz chips this summer as Jobs had mentioned last year. -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine... In the Pentium world, a 750mhz is not 50% faster than a 500mhz. Is that true for G4 as well? I think they used to use 5% increase per 100Mhz as a general rule. I'm not sure where that rule came from or if it's true, but it's just one of those things I heard somewhere. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine... I was holding out hope for a G5 Powerbook, but I assumed that if they just released an updated G4 Powerbook, the G5 is some ways off in the distance. And besides, I really want one. TjL fortunate enough to be married to a woman who supported the purchase :-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On 4/19/04, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY Are you rubbing it in? ;-) Seriously, congratulations, Tim, and welcome! I'm sure you will enjoy your new 'Book a lot. Enjoy learning how much fun computing can be, away from the Dark Side. :-) Jim Rohde There's 3 Types of Computers in The World: 1. Computers that are large and hard to use. 2. Computers that are small and hard to use. 3. Computers that are Macintosh. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
RE, congrats,welcome and best wishes. On Apr 19, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)
We'll have to wait until benchmarks are released... On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:58 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine... In the Pentium world, a 750mhz is not 50% faster than a 500mhz. Is that true for G4 as well? I think they used to use 5% increase per 100Mhz as a general rule. I'm not sure where that rule came from or if it's true, but it's just one of those things I heard somewhere. TjL -- Phillip Burk Exigent Systems Systems and Networking Planning, Implementation, Support 317.698.8528 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:18:05 -0500, James Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/04, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Are you rubbing it in? ;-) No, rubbing it in would be telling you that I qualified for the educational discount price (-: Would it help if I told you I've been using Windows for the past 4 years? Seriously, congratulations, Tim, and welcome! I'm sure you will enjoy your new 'Book a lot. Enjoy learning how much fun computing can be, away from the Dark Side. :-) It's a homecoming of sorts, as I was a NeXTSTEPer in a previous life during Steve's hiatus from Apple. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:07:26 -0500, Phillip Burk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll have to wait until benchmarks are released... Well what about the difference between an 800 - 900 or 900 - 1ghz? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY You may or may not go YAY to your HP 5150 printer. I have one hitched to an eMac running Panther and your clothing could go out of style in the time it takes to print. It also doesn't start automatically and I get fairly frequent pen failure messages. For some reason, it occasionally prints emails that are upside down and backwards, so that I have to hold the paper up to the window and read through the back of the sheet. I've never seen that trick on any other printer. -- Terry McCune -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:24:19 -0700, Terry McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may or may not go YAY to your HP 5150 printer. I have one hitched to an eMac running Panther and your clothing could go out of style in the time it takes to print. Huh... strange... It has gotten largely positive reviews where I've seen it. Well I can always ship it back. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
Wow! I'm new to the G-Books list. I am absolutely honored to receive an email from *the* Timothy J. Luoma, if even indirectly. I have only a '98 Wallstreet, but I *do* still use a screamin' 400 MHz OpenStep (Intel) machine, and an '040 Cube to boot. Thanks again for all your contributions to the NeXT world. Cordially, Tom Zahm On Monday, April 19, 2004, at 09:26 AM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: http://www.apple.com/powerbook/ I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-) Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT) Options: 065-5069 1.5GHz PowerPC G4 with 128MB Graphics Memory 065-4861 512MB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 SO-DIMM 065-5068 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400 rpm 065-4825 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4820 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4819 Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate) YAY TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:02:35 -0500, Tom Zahm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! I'm new to the G-Books list. I am absolutely honored to receive an email from *the* Timothy J. Luoma, if even indirectly. HA! I thought this was a setup. I have only a '98 Wallstreet, but I *do* still use a screamin' 400 MHz OpenStep (Intel) machine, and an '040 Cube to boot. Thanks again for all your contributions to the NeXT world. You're welcome. Believe it or not it was about a decade ago that I started working for PEAK on the next-ftp site. I remember thinking that the WWW was a waste of time (well, it still is, but in a different way ;-) (For the non-NeXTers: PEAK was one of the two main FTP sites. Just about every NeXTSTEP/OpenStep program was available on one or both of PEAK or Peanuts, which was in Germany, IIRC. This was long before anyone had their own web page to sell software. If you are familiar with Tucows or Download.com it was something like that except a lot less sophisticated. I essentially ran the PEAK site, answered questions, etc. This was back when Usenet was actually worth using and before there was much spam... ah the golden days. Believe it or not I still get a few emails/month about NeXT stuff. You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/ [which you are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web design. It was the late 1990s.) NeXTStep/OpenStep was absolutely awesome and I missed it terribly when I finally had to quit using it (I sold my NeXTStation in 2001 and my NSFIP machine went to the trash heap because I couldn't find anyone to buy it :-/ I was truly hoping for OS-X for Intel but I'm looking forward to getting back into the Unix world (tried FreeBSD but it had the same problem as Windows; it was too hard to get it to do what I wanted it to do. Even getting a window manager to work was a colossal pain.) ... I just realized that I bought a new computer in 1997 (133mhz Pentium with 64mb ram [I think] which became the main machine instead of my 25mhz NeXTStation w/ 32ram) then 2000 (650mhz Pentium with 128mb ram) and now 2004 (1ghz G4 with 512mb ram). I wonder what I'll be looking at in 2007/2008 :-? Anyway, thanks for the ego boost. I think this is the first time I've been referred to as *the* Timothy J. Luoma :-DDD As if my wife didn't already have too much to put up with (-: TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
