Re: [gentoo-user] print to PDF within Firefox
Hi, On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:54:42 -0300 Cláudio Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't remember wich, but an old version of firefox allowed me to print to PDF. how do I do this in this new one (1.5)? Firefox was probably compiled with XPrint support. The USE flag xprint should do this. At least I think that XPrint configured a PDF Printer by default. Another option would be to use CUPS and configure a PDF printer there. It wouldn't matter in that case if Firefox has Xprint support, but that would probably make switching printers easier, too. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] memory leak with gtk+-2.8.20-r1
Hi, On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:04 +0200 gwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry I post only the end of log file of valgrind (the entire file is very big ~22500 lines). This is the result of execute the source code : ==13767== LEAK SUMMARY: ==13767==definitely lost: 36 bytes in 1 blocks. ==13767==indirectly lost: 120 bytes in 10 blocks. ==13767== possibly lost: 40,264 bytes in 47 blocks. ==13767==still reachable: 118,673 bytes in 1,963 blocks. ==13767== suppressed: 0 bytes in 0 blocks. OK, but memory usage doesn't add up while the program is running, right? I think it may be just the missing call to gtk_exit(EXIT_SUCCESS) instead of return EXITSUCCESS. At least gtk_exit() is supposed to do final cleanup work. But I think this is rather OT for this list. If you don't get more answers here, you may seek help at the GTK project... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] memory leak with gtk+-2.8.20-r1
Hi, On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:14:02 +0200 gwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah yes, I wasn't aware that there was a function for this. You should definitely use this in place of the delete statement because it will do deeper cleaning. the GTK Api said gtk_exit is deprecated and should not be used. In fact, i'm very astonished because it's not the first software with GTK I wrote but it's the first time that I have this problem. It's so recent OK, I didn't counter-check it and was probably reading some outdated documentation. I was just searching for some kind of cleanup function and thought I found it. So it's probably in fact a gtk memory leak. Are you by chance running non-x86? That might explain why it passed some tests though buggy on that arch... OK, I'm out of suggestions :-) Maybe a manual delete would help, but I somehow doubt that (cleanup is probably done by gtk_main_quit() now?) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lots of missing gentoo-user mail
Hi, On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:40:03 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am trying to work out if if it's just me having an issue with gmail (which I will confront the gmail team there about), or if the gentoo-user mailing server is skipping addresses or having issues sending. Tracing mail logs over a few days to check threads can be a painfully annoying job ;-) I am subscribed to other lists too which I seem to be having absolutely no problems with, although they are somewhat less active than the gentoo-user one. Are any of you (gmail or not) having the same problem? What is the correct way to go about locating and confronting this issue? I'm seeing the same. The amount of missing mails doesn't qualify for lots, but I'm missing some. I first noticed about 3 weeks ago, and I thought I have seen a few notices by others on this list that they miss this or that mail, too. Infrastructure problems, I think, but on gentoo's end. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Bugzilla as support system w/ maillist integration
Hi, On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:09:36 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think about this idea ? If you're really talking about gentoo-user, then I think your idea is way, way, way too complex. Basically, I think, this ML just works. Heck, it hasn't even a FAQ posted regularly but works anyway. And how are you expecting people to subscribe and unsubscribe to single threads? People are even too stupid to realize how to unsubscribe from the ML as it is! -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] apache/php: chroot?
Hi, On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:42:46 +0200 Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now my question is: does apache/php support chrooting too? And are there some other services, which can be chrooted like bind? should work without any problems, like the most of the other standard internet services. try and have a look ;-) This won't work. Apache doesn't have inbuilt chroot facilities, AFAIK. Like most of the other standard internet services. You would have to setup a chroot env (all dependant libraries and stuff) for that. But there's nothing similar to a chroot automatic in apache. BTW, such a thing would probably break all CGIs. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN
Hi, On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 02:42:43 -0600 Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I proposed this awhile back, and got shot down. At the time, the arguments for using SVN for portage storage were pretty shallow, and someone was able to easily shoot them down. I believe I have come up with better reasoning for using SVN. Someone may still shoot them down, but hey, it's worth a try. #1: You're aware that there's a CVS for portage, aren't you? I'm still not quite sure if you are suggesting using SVN for the portage mirrors and if you are suggesting that users also have a full SVN history on the clients, too? PROBLEM 1 [...] PROBLEM 2 [...] PROBLEM 3 [...] Well, are those really problems at all? I mean, isn't it easy to overcome them? Is it worth dedicating time and work into that svn thing? POTENTIAL ISSUES Now, I'm not entirely sure of the performance implications of subversion for this purpose. So, that would definitely have to either be tested, or someone would have to talk with the subversion folks to know if it would be a problem for thousands of users to access subversion in readonly mode. Well, of course! There's definately a reason to use rsync. It would certainly be annoying for a developer to go svn commit, and have to wait for half an hour because everyone else is updating their local copies. But, that could be solved by mirrors only getting updated once every day, at 12 midnight. Oh, yeah. Your midnight, my midnight? It would definately be annoying to make a small glitch and have to wait 24hrs until the fix for that gets promoted. The problem you mentioned that at some points there are slightly errorneous ebuilds in portage or minor inconsistencies can only be fixed by promoting updates fast. The solution you propose costs a lot of CPU power, even more storage on the mirrors and lacks some positive aspects that the current solution has. Take a look at e.g. the major BSDs ports and package systems. They certainly have similar problems. OK, looking at the BSDs, I like the feature that there are branches with the aim to build a package tree that is as consistent as possible. That would be a plus. But that would imply a lot of work and a change in ebuild maintainance. I don't see this coming soon for Gentoo. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network is not starting
Hi, On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:02:49 +0300 Adrian Vraciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ifconfig -a No usable address families found. socket: No such file or directory You seem to have no IP protocol support compiled into your kernel. Or is there a module reg. IP support that you need to modprobe first? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MythTV vs. Gentoo VDR
Hi, On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:19:31 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes but what has that to do with gentoo? Its not a gentoo project! I was confused by the OP referring to gentoo vdr Me too. I know there's a Gentoo project for the VDR application. But basically I think the OP was reffering to a software rather than a project and wants a comparision. I'm running VDR, but not the Gentoo ebuild but rather compiled directly from source (all dependencies done by Gentoo, though). differences AFAIK: 1. VDR is for DVB only Yes. But there are plugins to make it work with analog tv, too. See all those plugins in media-plugins/vdr-*, I think at least the analogtv and pvr* plugins are made for this. 2. VDR is very Euro-centric - thats not a criticism, just worth knowing as european tv has many differences to, eg, USA tv in terms of technical format. That's true. And I think there are still some minor glitches w/ regard to PAL/NTSC (PAL is default). 3. There is far more documentation around for MythTV, I struggle to find good docs for VDR. http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main_Page is probably the most comprehensive documentation in english language. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] changing user id
Hi,
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:02:49 +0200 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd like to change cyrus id from currently to 120.
Why's that? You will at least bork the existing files to a degree that
they can't be automatically uninstalled by emerge anymore.
I tried usermod, but cyrus files didn't change its owner.
No, usermod Co only modify the authentication db, i.e. /etc/passwd.
could someone explain which is the way of changing user id and that
user doesn't lose its files?
A subsequent run of
find / -user olduid -exec chown cyrus '{}' \;
(as root, of course) should suffice. I don't see a way to do this
atomically with the UID change.
Note that your backups will probably still carry the old UID, keep that
in mind for the case you need to restore them.
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] remote login help
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:21:56 +0100 krgn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using ddclient to get to my router (which works) but can login to my machine behind the router (ssh for now, ftp and http later). Is that router a machine running linux or is it one of those little consumer appliances? Did you configure it to pass incoming connections on SSH port to the target computer in DMZ? Do you have netfilter running on the target machine? Is it configured to allow incoming SSH connections? Can you give us the configuration? Did you monitor traffic on that machine, e.g. with tcpdump? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eBook reader
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:25:09 -0500 Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a good eBook reader (software). No packages in portage that I could find. I found etr but no ebuild and its not great. What are you missing (except the ebuild)? What functionality are you searching for? Are you searching for text-based viewers only? Basically: What's your usage scenario? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eBook reader
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:20:10 -0500 Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically looking for text readers, although PDF, HTML and others would be nice. Need for it to be able to automatically save position, change fonts, fg/bg colors, etc. OK, I don't know of such multi-purpose apps, not exactly meeting my style :-) But anyway, you may want to have a short look at multivalent. It's not in portage either, but it only consists of one .jar - it's a java application. It's here: http://multivalent.sf.net If I can't find one, this may be the ideal time to learn how to do ebuilds. That's an easy one. Although there's a handbook, I'd suggest starting with looking at small, not too complex existing ebuilds. Create yourself a portage overlay directory and configure it in /etc/make.conf (see example file). Make a directory there, e.g. app-text/etr and create the ebuild in there. When you've done the ebuild, you have to create a digest using ebuild etr-1.2.3.ebuild digest. Then you can install it using emerge etr. But beware, wxWindows on Gentoo is not for the faint at heart due to it's many versions... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:40:39 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm wrong, but binary packages are BINARY (-k), so, you can't change their USE, because they're already compiled, they'll use the flags that were used by the time the package was created. If you install it creating binaries (FEATURES=buildpkg emerge xorg-x1) now with another USE or emerge it and create the binaries after it (quickpkg), then you may get what you want when you try and reinstall it. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm using logic here, not exactly empiric knowledge ;) But it's right :-). Even if xorg-x11 may be a meta package, it's a package, after all. And thus it's set of USE flags (and those additional configuration vars that are listed in verbose output of emerge) was *fixed* when the binary was created. That makes perfectly sense -- if you want it to get rebuild, don't use -k. And it's a meta package, it does download nothing at all. So having a binary of it doesn't make much sense if there's a very heterogenous number of clients that make use of the binaries. For restoring the machine that built the binaries, however, it makes perfectly sense (as long as hardware doesn't change). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix + Auth with SASL
Hi, On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:07:33 -0300 Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm trying to setup postfix with authentication. I have PAM/NSSwitch configured to use LDAP backend. I also installed cyrus-sasl, but when I test authentication I got some errors. What I'm doing wrong? Some relevant information: /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method:pam Shouldn't that be /usr/lib/sasl/smtpd.conf by default? Public available documentation suggest so. I must admit that I don't run cyrus sasl on Gentoo, currently. And the documentation suggests PAM instead of pam. Note that authentication using PAM is only used for plain text authentication (i.e. not for CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5). So I have these additional lines in my config: mech_list: plain login but I don't really know if it does anything at all (I'm hesitating to deactivate it and risk inavailability of service...) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chkrootkit LKM trojan ?
Hi, On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:36:30 +0100 Dave S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How accurate is chkproc? If you run chkproc on a server that runs lots of short time processes it could report some false positives. chkproc compares the ps output with the /proc contents. If processes are created/killed during this operation chkproc could point out these PIDs as suspicious. That fits in with the fact that chkrootkit rkhunter now report clean ( also fits in with someone tinkering from the inside !) The problem I see here is that you can't expect chkrootkit to find something when scanning from a clean base (Live-CD) when the only hint you had was an alert from chkproc. You probably would have gotten the alert from chkrootkit in the first place. chkproc inspects the currently running system (and the /proc for the currently running kernel). I.e. if it has no signature for the rootkit itself, it can't find it again from that clean kernel. Do you have the possibility to monitor internet connections on an intermediary gateway? I think monitoring it for a few days would give you a better hint if there might be something active. And there are other things to think about. Do you have a webserver running? CGI scripts? PHP applications? Do you have other network reachable services? Were you running a firewall? The past kernel bugs had very early exploit scripts. It is really a no-brainer to insert a rootkit if something lets you, say, write a script to /tmp and call it by exploitable buffer overflows, badly written CGI... And remember that there's (nearly) no possibility for a positive proof of the non-existence of a root kit. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lirc problems
Hi, On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:14:00 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a serial reciever I found at Lirc.org a very few components. I emerge lirc with LIRC_OPT=serial. When it goes and compiles the lirc_serial module it fails. Can any one help kernel Gentoo-2.6.12-R9 lirc 0.8 What's the error message? Your kernel version is a bit outdated. I'd start with a new one after all. LIRC 0.8 is newer than your kernel version and thus may have a different interface. I also have a keyspan media remote it is seen by kernel is there a way to get it to work. Lirc doesn't support it. What's the kernel message or which device list are you referring to by claiming it being seen by the kernel? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: d
Hi, On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:07:44 -0500 Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beagle is a mono application. Mono is the open source implementation of C# which is a derivative of java aimed specifically at windoze by M $. wrong. C# is a dialect one can use to create .NET programs. .NET is a bit similar to the Java concept. But there are numerous other languages one can use to create .NET assemblies. Mono is an attempt to create a .NET environment for the FOSS world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_development_platform -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved
Hi, On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:07:42 +0200 Gerhard Hoogterp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show me what is added or removed. And since it can only do that by comparing the new file to a clean, untouched, original file I innocently suggested to have such a file, make changes there and leave it up to the admin to check if settings are added or removed and deal with these changes in the active config file.. And in that case don't bother showing the diff.. just tell me which files have changed and *offer* to show the changes. But don't touch my active configes.. not automatically, not ever.. Hm, OK, *now* I understand your point. You want to track your own, hand made changes that don't have anything to do with new versions of default config files except from that you want to show those changes when making your decisions, correct? So basically, you want a three-pane (even better, though I can't image it visually: a tri-angular) view: Old default config, your modified version and new default config, i.e. kind of a diff3 approach. I agree, that would be interesting. Maybe this could easily be archieved with unionfs, having changed files in an overlayed file system. Another option would be to use a full fledged concurrent version system in /etc. Probably RCS might even be sufficient. In fact, if there are still binary packages for the old version of the package that brought in the new config file version, it would even be possible to extract the old default config and use that. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What does perl USE flag do?
Hi, On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:38:39 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The perl USE flag is new. What does it do? I just replied on the german ML to this question, but since it was re-asked here: The perl USE flag pulls in dev-lang/perl as a dependency. It is now a default USE flag on most profiles. I guess it's due to other flavours than Gentoo/Linux may have already a working perl in their base system (e.g. the BSDs, Darwin, whatever) and are assumed that there shouldn't be another one pulled in. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tun/tap - ifconfig tun0 - device not found
Hi, On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 19:04:41 -0300 Claudinei Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to use tun/tap to assign some ip to my server (since I'll need it to my LVS solution) and I think it's a trivial task to put tun to work, but I'm trying in 3 different machines (with 2 different kernels) and in both they when I try to ifconfig tun0 I get the follow message: tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found Well, I'd try to look if is something wrong with my kernel configuration but is everything ok since it just need tun/tap support to be compiled (I did tried both module and built-in). /dev/net/tun is a valid character device with 10, 200 (major/minor) ...and, is at first all you get by enabling TUN support in the kernel. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/tuntap.txt for more information about the ioctl() you have to issue in order to register a tun network device (TUNSETIFF). The docs have a code example, too. Oh, and I think OpenVPN has inbuilt functionality to create or remove tun network devices (independent from OpenVPNs other functionality). I've not completely understood what your usage scenario was, but maybe a dummy network device is enough? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: A/V muxing application ?
Hi, On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 10:48:28 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 08:47:53 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote: I would like to mux them again...which application can do that job for me (formats: *.m2c/*.ac3 ) ??? mplex should do this, it's part of mjpegtools. ...and the tcmplex-panteltje fork, that's what I'm using. (IIRC it supports more audio streams) Do you know of a decent graphical program for editing DVB files. All I really need is to be able to cut out commercials etc. A command line program would do, but graphical would be easier. That would be the ProjectX mentioned by Meino Christian. Works well for me. lve (Linux Video Editor) can do this, too, but I found the interface quite non-intuitive and dropped it after all in favor of ProjectX. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mencoder: error encoding, following howto
Hi, On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:01:51 -0400 fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opt to go for the supposedly higher quality x264, so I do two passes: 1: mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf crop=720:352:0:62,scale=752:320 -ovc x264 -x264encopts subq=4:bframes=4:b_pyramid:weight_b:pass=1:psnr:bitrate=4452:threads=2:turbo=1 -oac copy -ofps 24000/1001 -vobsubout subtitles -vobsuboutindex 0 -slang en -o pass1.avi Hm, threading, eh? Ever tried disabling it? 2 (which whines about not finding the log file, so I have to rename divx2pass.log.temp to divx2pass.log manually -- donchya love having to figure things out): The question is rather why mencoder doesn't name it like this. The mencoder man page clearly tells that it should. It supposedly wasn't existing at that point, right? mencoder -v ../vob/title1.vob -alang en -vf crop=720:352:0:62,spp,scale,hqdn3d=2:1:2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts subq=5:4x4mv:8x8dct:frameref=3:me=2:bframes=4:b_pyramid:pass=2:psnr:bitrate=4450:threads=3 -oac faac -faacopts object=0:tns:quality=100 -ofps 24000/1001 -o pass2.avi Oh, 3 threads now. Again: Did you try using only one thread? Are all those additional libraries you might have compiled into mplayer thread-safe? BTW: Is there a reason why in pass one you're using a cropped, scaled version of the movie and in pass two a _not_ scaled version? This will probably result in different blocks and will probably have (minor) bad influence on b/w calculation... However there is a problem with pass 2. I have tried this on two seperate systems, and the exact same thing happens: [...] Segmentation fault Segfaults are not that uncommon if you have problems with interfering threads. If you have a little time, you may also want to do an emerge -e mplayer to sort out problems that are due to compiler change and similar. BTW: Are you overriding the mplayer ebuild's own CFLAG settings? Ah, so this is working _real_ well... Any ideas out there? Because I can't get past this point. Well, hard to imagine what you've already tried, but try the things mentioned above. HTH, -hwh PS: (Insert my typical whine about video on linux being a pain here) (Insert my typical whine about whining about video on linux here :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)
Hi, On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:50:12 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pivot_root is specifically *not* allowed from an initramfs environment. What you want to do is simply mount the new root filesystem, chroot into it, and execute init. Something like: cd /new_root ; exec ./bin/chroot . ./sbin/init $@ dev/console dev/console 21 If you are *extremely* tricky, and use a symlinked /lib directory, you can actually delete everything from the initramfs before doing the chroot/init calls. Let me know if you need some more details on this. Hm, I'm pretty sure that it is well possible to pivot_root from an initramfs. Isn't that the whole point of pivot_root? But you may be right that it is not possible for NFS mounts, I never tried that before. In fact, the approach you took is weak. /sbin/init wouldn't run as PID 1 in this case which is bad for the situation that the calling script (which _has_ PID 1) dies. The kernel would recognize this and reboot (and/or panic, not sure). To avoid this, one has to exec the init from the script. So basically it boils down to this /init in the initramfs: #!/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/sbin modprobe supermightyrootfsprovidingmodule \ mount -t blahfs /dev/whereitis /mnt/stagetwo \ cd /mnt/stagetwo \ pivot_root . /mnt/initramfs || reboot -f exec /sbin/init Note that I assume /mnt/stagetwo exists in initramfs (as well as modprobe, mount, pivot_root and reboot) and /mnt/initramfs exists in the to-be-mounted fs. Note that the last point may prevent pivot_root'ing in a scenario where an NFS root fs is desired (because I'm not sure if it can have mounts in it, but that would be needed for proc, sys and dev, too, so it _may_ work here, too). The call to /sbin/init happens in the new fs because pivot_root manipulates the namespace of the calling process. Exec'ing is important so that /sbin/init gets PID 1 and we don't have a process which depends on the initramfs anymore, so we can unmount it at a later point. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs, network diskless boot, init process, problems with switchroot (pivot_root)
Hi, On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:51:51 -0700 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My final comments on that bug are based on the attached email that I received from Andrew Morton that made it clear that Al Viro was opposed to pivot_root being used from an initramfs. (BTW, viro's comments are not very polite, but you have to expect such directness from kernel hackers!) Note, be sure we are talking about an initramfs here, not an initrd. From an initrd it is still possible and supported to use pivot_root. OK, I have to apologize. I totally missed that you were exec'ing chroot. OK, I definately stand currected. But I was pretty sure I once did this from initramfs. But that was admittedly back in the 2.6.10 days, I think. Of course in this case /sbin/init also gets PID 1. -hwh (happy to not have been the one complaining to the kernel devs :-) and also forgetting to send attachments. I need a plugin that saves me from doing this, e.g. searching for the word attachment and complaining if there isn't one...) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Hi, On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:20:53 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/06, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... The OpenSSL executable has this facility built-in. See man openssl-s_client (it has a basic server, too). Hmm . . . = $ openssl s_client -host pop.gmai.com -port 110 CONNECTED(0003) 16228:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:601: = I guess it may only be good for checking the verification/exchange of SSL certs? Nope. It acts like a telnet client after establishing an SSL connection: ---snip [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ openssl s_client -connect pop.gmail.com:pop3s CONNECTED(0003) [lots of info snipped] +OK Gpop ready for requests from 123.45.67.89 n23pf2387435nfc ---snip For your test case: POP3 is usually on port 110, POP3S is usually on port 995. If the SSL connection isn't set up on connection level at start, but on an application configured stage afterwards, however, s_client wouldn't work. An example would be STARTTLS on IMAP (not IMAPS) and SMTP. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh
Hi, On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... The OpenSSL executable has this facility built-in. See man openssl-s_client (it has a basic server, too). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no suEXEC logging on errors
Hi, On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:37:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin R Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:51:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few people have mentioned not having used Suexec making me wonder if there is some other way to allow myuser to run cgi? I usually run apache as apache:web with the user creating the web stuff in the web group. I'm not sure of your meaning here. So that gets around needing suexec to fire cgi programs under /home/myuser/public_html? For that, there's not even need to put the user in the web group. Just make the files the web server should present world readable (CGI: and world executable). Suexec runs the scripts with a user account. That approach is needed in order to keep (multiple) users on the machine from peeking and poking at each others scripts and data storages. If there's just one user on that machine or security from each other is not an issue, suexec is not needed. What you're experiencing seems to be just a missing ScriptAlias. RTFM about calling CGIs... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.1.1
Hi, On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 05:34:49 -0700 Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, sorry that's just wrong. gcc is slotted, if the above were true there would be no need for gcc-config in order to select a default compiler. Did you follow the documentation pointer given in the mail you are replying to before making such statements? In fact, you're wrong here. When a new compiler is emerged, it does *not* automatically become the default system compiler, it must be selected, and that can only happen after it has successfully been emerged. The first time a new gcc compiler is emerged, it is indeed built with the previous version of the compiler that is currently istalled as the system default. You haven't understood a word from the posting you're replying to. It does have to be emerged twice in order for it to be built with itself, anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the basic principles of compiling and linking. Try to understand what you are replying to. GCC's internal build logic does the staging. That's got nothing to do with what your system calls when you issue gcc, and only at that point the slotting of GCC versions comes into play. Because for basically every program on your system, they are *dynamically linked* against glibc. Are you absolutely 100% sure that every single system utility and application is *dynamically* linked, and that no apps or utilities anywhere in the system specifies *static* linking? What would that change? We're talking about GCC, not glibc. There are a few statically linked programs that will include glibc internally. These are used only for system recovery purposes...there is no need to worry about them at all. Really, so people who intentionally and specifically want to upgrade absolutely *everything* should not worry about what gets left out because Richard says it's unimportant? If the build logic of those programs uses glibc statically, the specific ebuilds for such programs have to get updated in order to incorporate fixes that are needed in statically compiled libraries. Following *your* logic, one would have to do emerge -e world after the slightest update just for the case that the updated package is compiled statically into something. The issue is about upgrading gcc and even the gcc upgrade howto recommends an emerge -e world. It's clear that gcc it self at least has to be emerged twice in order to build the new gcc *with* the new gcc. Repeating this doesn't make it more true than being plain wrong. There is no value to having glibc or libstdc++-v3 in the first line. There is no value at all to doing that twice. Twice is the only way to build the new gcc *with* the new gcc. I should have added the gcc-config select command in between, but I thought that was pretty clearly necessary. He was talking about glibc at that point. I don't see no value either. Also, libstdc++-v3 is only needed by a few binary-only programs on Gentoo. Moreover, it is simply a build of gcc-3.3.6, which as I already said uses itself to build itself, so I cannot see any point in ever re-merging libstdc++-v3 due to a gcc upgrade The same holds true for libstdc++-v3 orginally it was built with the default system compiler, it makes sense to have it rebuilt with the new compiler. Not sure here, but it may well be possible that the ebuild in question builds a gcc 3.3 for bootstrapping this, too. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no suEXEC logging on errors
Hi, On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 13:32:17 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What you're experiencing seems to be just a missing ScriptAlias. RTFM about calling CGIs... What I've found is that if I set ScriptAlias to /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/ then it all works there but not at: USER/public_html. There a cgi is just displayed like a file. If I do not define ScriptAlias at all then cgi works under $public_html but cgi under $htdocs is just displayed as a file. Sorry, my fault. A ScriptAlias alone isn't likely to work, if I read this correctly: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html Read starting at CGI outside of ScriptAlias directories, it explicitly mentions the UserDir setting. And there are docs linked for using .htaccess files for configuring this. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as BASE requires it. What makes you think there's a) a slash-notation in USE flags b) this specific USE flag? dev-lang/php really looks like a package specification, not a USE flag. And: What is BASE? The -mmx and several of the others are there to keep conky from pulling in a bunch of stuff as well that it does not need When mmx isn't set by default there's no good reason to disable it, right? Make sure that you have understood what USE flags really do. As you're talking about a IDS, my suggestion would even be to start with all USE flags unset by default, i.e. your USE variable in /etc/make.conf should start with -* then. You'll probably want to add some of these to the default flags, too: nptl nptlonly ssl zlib jpeg png alsa ncurses pic nls pam. You can then specify further package specific refinements in /etc/portage/package.use. For an explanation what is happening at all, see man portage and man make.conf. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
Hi, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 00:51:47 +0930 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 1 June 2006 0:38, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Also -ftracer is not in the safe cflags list, personally I would not use it but if you believe it benefits you then go ahead. Another handy tip. Can't remember why I had it (did the research when I reinstalled it 32bit). I'll remove it too. ftracer is harmless. From man gcc: -ftracer Perform tail duplication to enlarge superblock size. This trans- formation simplifies the control flow of the function allowing other optimizations to do better job. If it was harmless and beneficial it'd already be included in an -O? level. Probably. And it seems to be only of interest when using -fsched2-use-superblocks or -fsched2-use-traces. The man page entry for the further (included in the latter) option says: This option is experimental, as not all machine descriptions used by GCC model the CPU closely enough to avoid unreliable results from the algorithm. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xrdb woes
Hi, first: I saw your answer to your own question, but I rather answer this :-) (Besides: 2 hours is not quite the amount of time I would expect a competent answer to a very individual problem...) On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:01:58 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While the 'peripherals' icon is flashing the login hangs. I ssh into the machine remotely, and kill off the xrdb process: 'xrdb -quiet -merge /tmp/kde-james/kcminit6pdVqc.tmp' [...] Any ideas on how to track this down ths problem are appreciated. xrdb is not even installed. When xrdb is _not_ installed, what exact program are you killing? So I guess it just must be installed somewhere... Try to find out its PID (via ps) and check what /proc/PID/exe points to (it's a symlink). Then try running the command with the just found out executable from an X terminal (maybe you would have to make a backup copy of the temp file mentioned in the command string you've posted and use that later in the terminal window) and see what happens. You'll probably want to omit the -quiet flag... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger complete rebuild after changing CFLAGS oder USEFLAGS
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:57:10 -0600 Justin R Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:10:48PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: What does emerge system exactly do ? system is an alias for a bunch of core packages. I forgot where it's defined. That's the profile. This is cascading. The start point is /etc/make.profile (check what the symlink points to) and downwards the path (in fact, according to the parent files, i.e. base is the most upward level atm.) to $PORTDIR/profiles in the packages files. Note that the rest is up to the dependencies. The profile is in fact a bunch of default settings, default masks and a default system package list. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] march athlon-xp to athlon64
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:38:05 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 31 May 2006 18:29, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 00:51:47 +0930 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it was harmless and beneficial it'd already be included in an -O? level. Probably. And it seems to be only of interest when using -fsched2-use-superblocks or -fsched2-use-traces. The man page entry for the further (included in the latter) option says: This option is experimental, as not all machine descriptions used by GCC model the CPU closely enough to avoid unreliable results from the algorithm. [man page excerpt] where does it say 'experimental'? You're right. At least for gcc 4.1.1 it doesn't say this anymore. For gcc 3.4.6, though, it does. Probably that's the explanation for this all. Nervertheless, it's not set by default for optimization options. That indicates it's still considered somewhat beta or provides another optimization strategy than the existing -O? options (and does not have some -O? option of its own, yet). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Hi, On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:19:30 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday 29 May 2006 11:08 skrev Norman Rieß: With Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), you can install a X11-Server on you Windowsmachine. Then switch on the X11 forwarding of your ssh client. Be aware that you don't actually need to run the X server on the Windows computer. You just need the libs that are required by those X applications that you intend to run.. N'ah, you've misread it. Since the OP wants to run the ssh client on the Windows machine, a X server is needed. XWin from cygwin is a good suggestion. I also like WeirdX (http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html), a Java-based implementation that might be simpler to setup if cygwin is too big. It has a few interesting things, among them EsounD support. It's X11R6.3, though. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1: emerge -e world required?
Hi, On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:01:14 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. You don't need to have gcc installed to be able to run a *compiled* program. but one might want to have the libstdc++ and libgcj installed that came with the compiler for the case that C++/Java programs should continue to run. So quickpkging the old GCC is probably not a bad idea until revdep-rebuild took care of those apps and libs. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DNSDOMAIN in /etc/conf.d/domainname has no effect?
Hi, On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:40:02 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zac Slade wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 08:25, Alexander Skwar wrote: But I wonder what this DNSDOMAIN setting in /etc/conf.d/domainname is supposed to do. Because of It sets the domain in /etc/resolv.conf No, it doesn't. Well, it does (in /etc/init.d/domainname). But this is obviously overwritten in your case by dhcp settings. You're right with that OVERRIDE=1 doesn't fix this. Another start of /etc/init.d/domainname should. The OVERRIDE flag just decides whether the new domain setting goes to the start or the bottom (OVERRIDE=1) of /etc/resolv.conf (that has influence, because resolv.conf(5) says: the last instance wins). So what's probably missing is another call to /etc/init.d/domainname after DHCP has set up the interface. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 1366x768 HDTV
Hi, On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:05:28 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get the SVGA input on a HDTV to work with my gentoo system. The monitor manual says it works with 1366x768. The video card in the machine is: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] Any wikis or docs or example xorg.conf file laying around I can use as a guide? Did you ever try Google? Anyway, googl'ing for modeline 1366x768 brings up lots of hits for me. Insert some modeline that doesn't exceed the allowed clock rates for your monitor (you didn't mention them) into your xorg.conf, and that's it. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ReiserFS extended attributes?
Hi, On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Sascha Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't be of much further help, but my immediate question after reading this was: what does /proc/mounts contain after doing this? something different then mount shows: # mount | grep home /dev/hda3 on /home type reiserfs (rw,noatime,user_xattr) # grep home /proc/mounts /dev/hda3 /home reiserfs rw,noatime 0 0 I think it just doesn't get respected. But it doesn't throw an error, so I guess the kernel doesn't error out but doesn't change anything, either. /proc/mtab is maintained by the kernel, /etc/mtab is maintained by mount itself. But seeing the other part of this thread, this all seems to be intended behaviour for reiserfs. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown pauses partway with Give root password
Hi, On Tue, 09 May 2006 07:20:57 -0700 glen martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resending ... anyone have a clue as to why the Give root password for maintenance ... prompt would come up occasionally at shutdown time? That's sulogin. Did you mess up your /etc/inittab (like uncommenting that line referring to sulogin)? But I rather guess its an unclean umount and sulogin is spawned from /etc/init.d/halt.sh (l.189). Maybe you can cat your /proc/mounts next time you're in that single-user mode? It might make things more clear... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?
Hi, On Fri, 05 May 2006 08:22:29 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 01 May 2006 11:03 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outlook and Outlook Express are the two worst mail clients in the universe. They are not. Lotus Notes beats them to that. Ouch. You sure you want to be handing out a judgement of that magnitude like that? Yes, I am sure. Well, my statement is at least true reg. Notes 5. I do not know Notes 6 or newer. They might have changed Notes and made it better. Ahem, not really better. Well, a bit. But judging Notes for its eMail qualities is like judging MS Word for its abilities as a programmer's editor. Notes _has_ its worth, too, and has some very interesting features, namely the configurable database replication to the client. Especially the offline capabilities are pretty good. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OOM-Killer upon compilation/emerge on AMD64 (was: Re: why firefox is so slow?)
Hi, On Fri, 5 May 2006 17:28:06 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example: [ 1151.984763] oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x80d2, order=0 Huh? If I understand Linux' memory management correctly that says that the OOM condition was triggered by trying to reserve 1 page (order=0) of high memory (gfp_mask|0x0002). But: You don't have highmem (of course, because you're running on 64bit). [ 1151.984770] DMA per-cpu: what about DMA32? Is this an older kernel? [ 1151.984809] HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no doesn't make me wonder on 64bit... [ 1151.984829] Swap cache: add 71, delete 71, find 0/0, race 0+0 [ 1151.984831] Free swap = 995736kB [ 1151.984833] Total swap = 996020kB [ 1151.984834] Free swap: 995736kB Errr, that basically says nearly full swap space is available, isn't it? I think you probably have some IO related driver that for whatever reason decides to claim highmem. This triggers the OOM (there's no highmem), and cc1plus just happens to be the most interesting task to kill for the kernel: - just started, - much memory recovered Further analysis would probably require patching the mm/oom_kill.c and inserting a few debug statements -- if the problem is still there for newest kernels (there's been some changes esp. reg. AMD64 in 2.6.14, IIRC). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide
Hi, On Thu, 4 May 2006 18:55:28 +0300 Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, I just tried the same, and it worked. It also didn't print any after (appropriately, since the sig handler includes 'exit'), and I didn't find any sleep process. Maybe it was from some different experiment? I don't think so. You probably sent the signal to the child process (CTRL-C, perhaps?) and the script at once, not to the parent only. proper way would be to try it like this: ./test.sh # wait some short time kill -TERM $! After that I see that the child process is still running. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
Hi, On Wed, 3 May 2006 20:38:49 +0100 (WEST) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Putting something in the background doesn't change what it's std(in|out| err) are attached to. They will still go to the [pt]ty like normal. If Right, my mistake. Still, the parent script will exit sucessfuly, and then how can the backgrounded process be controlled, other than by killing it with kill -TERM or something like that? Signals are the only way (or you have a parent died logic inside the child process). And this will always open a racing condition when relying on shell scripting, like I showed in my earlier answer. But for multilog this won't matter as stdin/stdout is dup'ed to the child. It does matter, though, for security holes. you *want* then redirected somewhere else, you are free to do so with standard redirection operations before the ampersand. I don't want redirection. Multilog will grasp stdout, but only of the parent process (I think); once the latter exits, I don't think the other process will be accessible. It doesn't exit. It's just a shell built-in wait (no, in fact, it is a glibc built-in wait). The file handles are kind of dup'ed, so multilog should work just fine. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Web mail
Hi, On Wed, 03 May 2006 08:59:23 -0500 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about event-driven programming (I wrote in VB for years before I achieved the enlightenment of Linux), but I didn't know that it was possible with PHP. I use event-driven techniques in Gambas and qt. I always thought squirrelmail code was like that for security purposes... I never heard of it as event driven programming, but I think what it should refer to is the MVC pattern. The events for web applications are of such a homogenuous nature that it has no worth to think of it as event driven. One needs a good understanding of MVC and the Doc/Controller model (and serialization of state data) for building fine complex webapps whose overall logic should keep being understandable. On the opposite, if you've just a plain simple page to display, MVC is definitely way too heavy. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] kill a child and suicide
Hi, On Tue, 2 May 2006 17:42:26 +0100 (WEST) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2006, Zac Slade wrote: You can find the PID of the last backgrouned process using the bash variable $! The child is not backgrounded! So something like: subprocess $pid=$! Using trap along with maybe setting alarms should get you what you want. Based on the suggestions of Uwe and Vladimir, I tried trap 'pkill -TERM -P $$; kill -s TERM $$' TERM do something . /path/to/child.sh do something else Doesn't work, yet. Note that child.sh is a shell script that may execute some other command (like rsync), so the . by itself may not be enough. This can't work because of this (man bash): --snip If bash is waiting for a command to complete and receives a signal for which a trap has been set, the trap will not be executed until the command completes. --snip What instead works (just tested): --snip #!/bin/sh COMMAND=sleep 120 # First we background: $COMMAND # Save the PID CHILDPID=$! # Trap the signal: trap kill -TERM $CHILDPID TERM # And wait for the Child to finish: wait $CHILDPID # reset signal handling: trap - TERM --snip Note that the code could hit a racing condition and should therefore not carelessly run by root on a machine with untrusted users. This is: The process may have finished before setting the signal handler. Other processes *might* reuse the PID afterwards and might get sig-TERM-ed until resetting the signal handler again. Probably a minor, depending on the script's usage. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get rid of gentoo-sources
Hi, On Tue, 2 May 2006 21:09:44 +0200 Leopold Gouverneur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I prevent emerge from merging gentoo-sources (I now use sources from ftp.kernel.org).I tried --unmerge whithout success. Something will always try to pull it in. But you can tell portage that it's there: $ cat /etc/portage/profile/package.provided sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.15.4 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.15.4 (dunno why I've inserted both, one should be sufficient, and yes, it already got a bit outdated) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My box freezee sometimes
Hi, On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:24:19 -0300 Fernando Antunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've already run memtest86, no problem report. positive testing of a hypothesis is not a proof of correctness. Negative testing is a proof of its falseness. That said, you can only validate the hypothesis of not working RAM by actually finding errors with memtest, but never prove that it is OK. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: FontForge needs conversion from ISO-8859-1 to UCS2 - iconv (glibc-2.3.5-r2) does not support it on amd64
Hi, On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:43:09 -0400 Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although FF seems to work now if compiled --without-iconv, I would like to know why this conversion is not working on my system. Here is what happens if I type: [...] Hm. Works for me. And this hasn't to do with locales (at least, it shouldn't). What are the USE flags for your glibc? Is nls enabled? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: FontForge needs conversion from ISO-8859-1 to UCS2 - iconv (glibc-2.3.5-r2) does not support it on amd64
Hi, On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:42:09 -0400 Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you say that those conversions work for you on amd64? Ah, I'm seeing it now in the subject. No, I was quietly assuming you're talking about x86. I don't have an amd64 machine at hand, so I can't help here... glibc's USE flags seem to be all right for me. Maybe other people can test it on amd64. What I noticed when strace'ing iconv, though, was that it accesses some files in /usr/lib/gconv. Does this directory exist on amd64? You might want to run strace iconv ..., too, maybe the error is displayed there. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: FontForge needs conversion from ISO-8859-1 to UCS2 - iconv (glibc-2.3.5-r2) does not support it on amd64
Hi,
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:09:18 -0400
Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the strace output: http://plouj.sh.nu/straceiconv
from that output:
---snip
open(/usr/lib32/gconv/UNICODE.so, O_RDONLY) = 4
read(4, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 \5\0\000..., 640) =
640
close(4)= 0
open(/usr/lib32/gconv/ISO8859-1.so, O_RDONLY) = 4
read(4, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\4\0..., 640) = 640
close(4)= 0
---snip
So it opens a file, reads 640 bytes and closes it. Note the /lib32.
Now this is my output, 32bit platform:
---snip
open(/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240\4\0..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=9720, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 12316, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) =
0xb7de4000
mmap2(0xb7de6000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1) = 0xb7de6000
---snip
So after reading the first 512 bytes, it mmap's a code section and a
data section into address space. Dynamic loading, I'd say (without
further debugging). So this seems to fail for you and I think the
lib32 indicates that the 64bit glibc errorneously tries to load the
wrong modules for iconv.
Maybe you can temporarily move the lib32/gconv dir and soft link the
lib64/gconf in place of it to verify my assumption (it should work
then, but this is obviously not a solution as it will break 32bit
environment). You might want to file a bug into gentoo's bugzilla
(after searching for an existing one, of course).
By looking at /usr/lib{64,32}/gconv/gconv-modules (wich are identical)
it looks like there really isn't any conversion specified from
ISO-8859-1 to any other code.
Strange. Mine has:
---snip
module ISO-8859-1//INTERNALISO8859-1 1
---snip
(whatever that means)
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Initramfs question
Hi, short note at the start: Don't hijack other threads (like you did here), don't answer a mailing list mail but write a new one to the list, when you want to start a new thread. On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:32:52 -0400 K. Mike Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me why the latest Gentoo uses initramfs but it is loaded by GRUB using initrd? I though the initramfs was to be compressed into the kernel image? It can be, but it hasn't to. The kernel checks a few magic bytes in order to check whether ram disk data placed by the bootloader into memory is actually an initramfs or a full blown initrd (which can contain any filesystem). Initramfs is the suggested replace mechanism and is basically a compressed cpio archive. The method how it gets into memory when booting hasn't changed, or better: is still compatible. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IrDA crashes every time
Hi, On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:47:24 +0200 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've tried passing all sort of different parameters to the module but it comes back with errors: [...] Well, there are two things left I would try: #1: I remember some kind of findchip utility (try that name) that comes with irda-utils. It can print suggested settings. #2: Try IrPort drivers (unfortunately you'll be restricted to SIR, max. #115kBit) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IrDA crashes every time
Hi again, On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:09:43 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got partial success! I can modprobe smsc-ircc2 which seems to successfully install the module: = # modprobe -v smsc-ircc2 ircc_sir=0x3e8 ircc_irq=3 insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1/kernel/drivers/net/irda/smsc-ircc2.ko ircc_sir=0x3e8 ircc_irq=3 So it doesn't report an error here, correct? But only after I have run setserial: = # setserial /dev/ttyS2 uart none = The log shows: [...] OK, this probably means that you have the default serial driver installed and it claims the device. The setserial is needed in order to release the port again. You might want to try to have the default serial driver not touch the IrDA port at all -- the simplest thing would be to try running without serial plug support for the start. Then I start /etc/init.d/irda: = Apr 24 15:03:37 lappy irattach: tcgetattr: Input/output error Apr 24 15:03:37 lappy irattach: Stopping device /dev/ttyS2 Apr 24 15:03:37 lappy irattach: ioctl(SIOCGIFFLAGS): No such device Apr 24 15:03:37 lappy irattach: exiting ... = This seems to indicate that you're trying to use /dev/ttyS2. But as you're not using the serial port IrDA driver but an extended FIR driver the device is probably irda0 (and it doesn't have a path, as it's a network device). Try ifconfig -a, it should be listed. I don't have IrDA on my current machine, so I can't tell what exact configuration setting must be changed from /dev/ttyS2 to irda0. Start with this, first. Should I perhaps run all this is a different order? As I said, try modprobing after the setserial call or even omit serial support in the kernel. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IrDA crashes every time
Hi, On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:50:37 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, no error. The module is installed fine as long as I have run setserial first. Hm, that's how it should be with fast infrared drivers. All OK, then, I guess. You might want to try to have the default serial driver not touch the IrDA port at all -- the simplest thing would be to try running without serial plug support for the start. I am sure that if I could first improve my understanding with regards to how serial ports are being used, I would be able to find the solution much easier ;-) I have enabled serial drivers in the kernel because I intend to configure the winmodem for dialup connections, as well as being able to connect my Psion PDA on the serial port. You need serial drivers (what I called serial plug support before) for the latter. The winmodem will probably use its own driver that provides a serial device which is functionally equal to the ones from the serial driver - but does not depend on the serial driver. But for actually using the real serial ports on the back of your PC you'll have to use the standard serial drivers. So no need for recompiling here, the setserial uart none should suffice. An option that's left would be compiling both IrDA drivers and serial device drivers as modules and probing IrDA first and serial second. How does it exactly work? What is the serial plug support? Are you referring to the kernel modules for serial ports? Yes, I was. This seems to indicate that you're trying to use /dev/ttyS2. But as you're not using the serial port IrDA driver but an extended FIR driver the device is probably irda0 (and it doesn't have a path, as it's a network device). Try ifconfig -a, it should be listed. I don't have IrDA on my current machine, so I can't tell what exact configuration setting must be changed from /dev/ttyS2 to irda0. Start with this, first. Actually, ifconfig gives me not ida0, but irlan0: [...] Hm, that's not how it should be. There should definately be the irda0, too. That's the device the smsc FIR driver should provide. I just had a look at the sources of the driver you're using (smsc-ircc2) and it indicates that the error message No transceiver found. Defaulting to Fast pin select may be an effect of a wrong ircc_fir setting. But I can't help much further, here. The only suggestion left, obviously not the best one, is to keep away from FIR and use SIR instead. As you'll be using the standard serial device driver anyway, you can then compile the IrTTY device driver instead of smsc-ircc2. I will be rolling up a new kernel soon so I can try leaving out the serial support drivers. As I said above I desperately need to understand how the serial port functionality works in linux. If this is getting too much OT for the list please email me directly so that we don't consume bandwidth. :-) I don't suggest leaving out the serial drivers, as you'll need them for the Psion connection. And reg. list traffic: You'll need this audience if further problems arise as I'm at the end of my wisdom right here ;-) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Do NOT install evolution
Hi Alexander, On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:15:31 +0200 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to make emerge/Portage pretend that mail-client/evolution is already installed WITHOUT actually installing it? I do NOT want to deinstall gnome-base/gnome and I also don't really want to put gnome-base/gnome in a local overlay. /etc/portage/profile/package.provided, I think (add line »mail-client/evolution-V« where V is the pretended version). See »man 5 portage«. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IrDA crashes every time
Hi, On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:17:20 +0200 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apr 23 01:01:01 lappy smsc_ircc_present: can't get sir_base of 0x3e8 Try checking and changing BIOS settings for IRDA IO port, IRQ settings and DMA and - maybe - PlugPlay. Then you might want to use the IO/IRQ/DMA parameters as options to the module (use modinfo -p to find out about those options). Just a guess, though. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for best tutorial on creating initramfs
Hi, On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:05:50 -0500 Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to find a better tutorial on initramfs. One that doesn't rely on tools that automate the process. In fact, an initramfs doesn't differ much from other root fs'es. Physically, it is a gzipped cpio archive. The kernel will compile it into the kernel itself if you tell it so (kernel configuration: configure a patch for initramfs data). If you want to create it manually and load it like a ram disk (i.e. use the boot loader to pass the initramfs to the kernel) you can rely on a script that is in your kernels ./scripts/ directory and an executable that gets compiled in ./usr/ like this: gen_initramfs_list.sh /path/to/initramfs/data | gen_init_cpio /dev/stdin | gzip -9 initramfs.gz Inside the initramfs you can create a userland. Kernel's entry point will be /init, which is supposed to be executable. You'll want to read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/early-userspace/README for the basics and then read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt (be careful to ignore the first part which is only initrd specific). You can put anything you want into your initramfs. If it's just some simple script that should be run, you're probably done with a statically compiled busybox executable and /init being a shell script. At the end of the script, you'll want to pivot_root into the real root filesystem and maybe delete initramfs data afterwards. I've never found really good documentation, but everything just works as expected. There's really nothing special with initramfs. Feel free to ask more questions here. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] tv tunner
Hi, On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:37:37 +0300 Catalin Trifu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get a TV Tunner installed on my gentoo linux box. Could you please share some of your experience with setting up a TV Tunner and which cards/software you used. I'm currently running a DVB setup with a modified (stripped down to run completely out of RAM-Disk) gentoo. I'm not sure if you had DVB in mind, though. I can definitely recommend this in combination with VDR (others prefer MythTV, which is probably better for analogue TV) - it currently provides me a TV set top box on a Pentium 200 MMX. It's a full featured card, i.e. the hardware decodes the MPEG2 video and audio streams. You can use a so called »budget card« that doesn't have this decoder (and no TV out) and use your CPU for decoding (not an option for the Pentium 200, which I like for its quietness). You should have at least ~400 MHz and there won't be much left of your CPU cycles when watching TV with this. With modern CPUs you don't have to care that much. The standard linux kernel brings all needed DVB drivers for most cards. For VDR, there are plugins that allow streaming over some network (from my experiences, 10MBit is needed). For me, that means I can watch TV on my work computer, too, streamed from my VDR set top box. So my suggestion is clearly DVB (if you're from Germany, too: probably only useful for DVB-T and DVB-S, due to limited channels for most DVB-C networks) and VDR. If you rely on analogue TV, I don't have any experience to share :-( -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev/initramfs problem
Hi, On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:44:09 -0500 Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We rescently upgraded to the 2.6.15-r1 kernel and life is great on the systems that use the adaptec scsi controllers. However, LSI Logic does not appear to be seen by udev or, more likely, initramfs facilities. Consequently, no root device is found. Hm? The initramfs is in charge to load proper modules, if needed. But there shouldn't be a root device if there's an initramfs. Are you talking about the staged root which is going to be pivot'ed when the initramfs is done? I am missing something but don't know what. Below is the output of [...] How has the cited output been made? From initramfs system? My questions would be: - is the driver for the LSI controller compiled into the kernel? - if it isn't, is the module contained in the initramfs? Is it a module for the right kernel? - and how is the module to be loaded by the initramfs? - is there a static or a dynamic /dev in the initramfs? - if dynamic, how is it managed? - what are the commands the initramfs uses to stage into real root? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev/initramfs problem
Hi, On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:25:52 -0500 Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # genkernel -- menuconfig --install all Hm, I don't really know genkernel. Does it create the initramfs? When in the ash shell environment, I notice that there are few static nodes in /dev. ( i.e. console, pty etc.) In this environment, I am able to load the modules manually, but still no device is visible in /dev. Then there's either no daemon that creates the devices (udev) or it isn't somehow configured correctly. I note that the MPT driver structure has changed as well for this kernel - which, I have built both modularly and strait into the kernel. Somehow I doubt that. Usually you have it either the one way or the other. But as you said you could load them, I guess they're modules. You might want to try to recompile a kernel with all drivers compiled in. I have been doing a great deeal of reading and have found that klibc may be an issue, however, building older (2.6.12-r4) kernels works without error. Also noted here is that 2.6.12-r4 still has devfs features available. That would explain it. udev would be needed in the initramfs to create devices upon module loading. The module is contained within the initramfs and loads (manually) So there's no hotplugging or similar. Try to compile the drivers directly into the kernel. - and how is the module to be loaded by the initramfs? My presumption is that the rules within 50-udev.rules provide for this. - is there a static or a dynamic /dev in the initramfs? My best discription here is dynamic with a few static nodes present. Ah, this _is_ in the initramfs? Is there a udevd spawned in initramfs? I beleive that it is at the PCI level where this failure occures, because, if the PCI interface ti the controler were properly handled, then the scsi bus it provides would be available. Is dmesg available in initramfs? It may contain hints upon module loading. But at that time those hints should be print out to console, anyway. You're shure that those are the correct drivers, aren't you? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] error after update
Hi, On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:03:39 +0800 (CST) wcw84 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: config_eth0=( 222.20.45.71 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 222.20.45 255 ) There's a dot missing right before the last 255. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gpm (X11): touchpad OR usb-mouse?
Hi, On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:55:46 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to configure gpm so, that if usb-mouse is attached, then only mouse can be used as pointing device? You may try to use udev for that. It can call scripts when devices are plugged in and out or just present at boot (using coldplug for older udev versions). You can let the script switch configuration files and send gpm a signal that lets it read its configuration again. The key is that you should not use /dev/input/mice as the device but have two separate gpm configurations with /dev/input/mouseN (you can also use udev to give more persistent names). Sorry, I can't go much into practical details, I've no use for this, personally :-) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge without download
Hi, On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) go moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moreover, why 'emerge package digest' try to download the file instead of creating the corresponding digest file? The command you wanted was 'ebuild'... Or 'emerge --digest package' if you have a recent enough portage. Yeah, excuse, it was 'ebuild package digest' which try to download the file. Just a typo... Yep, it needs to download the sources in order to calculate the digest for them, too. That's how portage checks for forged tarballs on the mirrors. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh2 and xover LAN
Hi, On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason scp concatenates the source with the destination into one non-existing path. Then why on earth don't you quote actually _useful_ data for us to help you, i.e. the command you issued when you get that error? May it even be possible that you don't use openssh's scp (I didn't manage to reproduce such debug output you've cited)? You've neither specified your client and server software... Trying to help you under these circumstances is rather pointless. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] another iptables question...
Hi, On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:44:07 +0530 Hiren Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did this: [...] #iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner 0 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A OUTPUT -j DROP [...] Still other users including root can ping other PCs. Why is this not working? please post the output of iptables -vnL. We're talking about users on that PC, not those using it as a gateway/router/bridge/whatever, correct? Also I have some diffulties understanding Connection Tracking(NEW, ESTABLISHED, RELATED, INVALID) concept. Those are protocol dependant. I really think that those are well described even in iptables man page. Basically, you'll want sth like this: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT and maybe the same for FORWARD. Of course, for FORWARD, you'll want to match NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED for outgoing connections (well, or even don't impose any restrictions for outgoing connections). Any practical guide available on internet for iptables??? Lots. That practical depends on the problem faced which you didn't describe at all. So del.icio.us would be my first hint, Google follows: http://del.icio.us/tag/netfilter http://www.google.com/search?q=netfilter (note that the concept is usually referred to as netfilter) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing linux's internet connection with an iMac?
Hi, On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:29:54 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Set up a bridge device on the laptop between the wifi interface and the iMac interface; assuming your setup is as simple as I think, that should be all you need to do. Most likely it wouldn't work because of the wlan link layer. Most WiFi cards don't go well with bridging... So routing is the option which is left. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing linux's internet connection with an iMac?
Hi, On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:23:24 +0200 Matthias Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Monday, 2006-03-27 at 13:36:38, you wrote: Most likely it wouldn't work because of the wlan link layer. Most WiFi cards don't go well with bridging... So routing is the option which is left. The 802.11 link layer is almost exactly the same as in Ethernet so that should be a driver issue. Particularly the LLC part is completely compatible...I never actually tried the bridging though. I should have been more verbose. 802.11 may be almost the same regarding the logical link layer, but not the Media Access Control layer. In fact, 802.11 has the DS bits in its headers and potentially up to four relevant addresses for routing the packet (Receiver, Transmitter, Source, Destination for our scenario). Bridging can in fact work if the WiFi node in question can make use of these features. However, most STA's cannot due to restrictions in their firmware. IIRC, that's basically the difference between STA/AP firmware versions. By definition, this is an AP function (see 802.11 standard, 1999, pg. 37ff.), WDS (Wireless Distribution Service). As it isn't relevant for hardware design, I tend to agree that it is a driver problem, although not quite like usual driver problems... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: awk scripting
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:34:22 +0100 (CET) Sascha Lucas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want the awk analogon for cut -f2-, which prints fields #2 to #n.
Is this possible?
awk '{print $2???}'
I'd do the following:
awk '{$1=;print $0}'
(awk recalculates $0 when $n is modified)
This still leaves you with one OFS starting the line (between $1 and
$2), you can get rid of this using
awk '{$1=;print substr($0,lenght(OFS))}'
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: awk scripting
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:15:09 +0100 (CET) Sascha Lucas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
awk '{$1=;print $0}'
(awk recalculates $0 when $n is modified)
This still leaves you with one OFS starting the line (between $1 and
$2), you can get rid of this using
awk '{$1=;print substr($0,lenght(OFS))}'
thanks. the function lenght seems not defined. but substr($0,2) works.
That was a typo. Should of course be length.
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: awk scripting
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:49:22 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 24 March 2006 07:34, Sascha Lucas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] OT:
awk scripting':
I want the awk analogon for cut -f2-, which prints fields #2 to
#n. Is this possible?
I think:
awk '{shift; shift; print $0}'
Sad, but true: There's no shift in awk.
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
Hi, On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:08 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords That's because your _current_ shell interprets the . What you want can be done with sudo sh -c 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log I guess you want to use ... | sudo sh -c 'cat /var/log/foo.log' You can create a short script that does both (nice idea, I currently wrote them for me, too...): ---:suappend:--- #!/bin/sh exec sudo sh -c cat \$1\ ---snip--- and you can do: echo blah | suappend /var/log/blah.log etc.pp. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NIC works fine with Gentoo Live CD, not so good without.
Hi, On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:49:23 -0500 Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the driver: 8139too 28992 0 Now then... as of 2 days ago, I've been noticing that my ethernet has been acting really whacky, with random ping times and flaky web surfing. Did you try playing with 8139too's kernel setup, esp. regarding MMIO vs. PIO? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Partitioning
Hi, On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:50:10 + Paul Stear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem now is that when I plug the disk in (it's am external USB disk) I get 2 icons on my kde desktop both saying 200G Media one is /dev/sda and the other /dev/sda1 but of course I only have 1 200G disk. Probably there are still the filesystem magic bytes written in the boot sector (first 512 bytes). I think overwriting them should do the trick, but I'd like a second opinion on this, before I advice you to do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 (but if there isn't any data on that drive, then go and try this...) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Port Tracer Program Needed
Hi, On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:03:24 -0500 Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting ready to start a project here in the building to map the physical infrastructure of our network (its been assembled kinda willy nilly over the last 8 years or so). I am looking for a program to run on my laptop that I can plug into a wall plate and it will cause the port activity lights on the switch to blink distinctly so that I can begin tracing plugs to ports. Due to budgetary constraints, open source / freeware is very very preferable. Not sure about distinctly (that will certainly depend on the switch's electronic and programmatic design), but - tada - you can usually cause the traffic light on the switch to blink with network traffic ;-) So broadcasting some UDP packages out into the wild should be sufficient. Use e.g. netcat. OTOH, you might want to play with ethtool and switch connection rates for short intervals. Usually switches have a light indicator for the speed, too, so that should be easier to distinct on a busy switch. Toggle this in a shell loop with a few sleeps inserted... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:38:06 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. Did you actually bother to read what -nc does? In fact I think you were searching -c option... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:14:33 + (WET) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want something like this: myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand $myvar [...] This does not work, because remotebox doesn't know about $myvar. Of course, if I could pass a variable to remotebox, the line might be just command=~/bin/mycommand public-key and the ssh command would be myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand (the program itself would use the value of $myvar) Hm, I think you're making it unnecessary complex. What's wrong with just piping it on stdin? I.e.: local$ echo whatever | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand and in ./bin/mycommand: --- #!/bin/sh read myvar # do whatever --- Or do you in fact use a pseudo tty on remote side for interactive mode (which would make this a little more difficult)? If you want to keep your way of doing it, I just have a few hints, but didn't test anything, just looked them up out of curiosity: - read man sshd_config, item AcceptEnv, PermitUserEnvironment - read man sshd, section LOGIN PROCESS -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache (paths not showing in url)
Hi, On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:20:38 -0500 Tito Valentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know why when I go to my website and click on the links within my site the url still stays the same? For example: if I go to www.my_web_site.com and click on the link messages within my site, the url is still www.my_web_site.com rather than www.my_web_site.com/phpbb/messages that happens if frames are being used. Do you use frames? It's most probably NOT due to apache. I've seen this with some free domain providers, they only open your page in a static frameset (that cares for displaying some ads, too). What's showing if you chose show page source in your browser? A frameset or your page? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to track this down (emerge of amaya)
Hi, On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:01:04 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What did you do about Mesa? Just leave it out. I see the Mesa libs are masked even though I'm running ~x86 enabled in /etc/make.conf Oooh, yeah, i actually left out that part. First, I emerged wxGTK with opengl USE-flag set (among X and unicode). I think compiling amaya went fine then until the final linking run. It even compiled wxGTK and I had some strong feeling that there was an error. I fixed the gcc linking run by removing references to the amaya-wxGTK and substituted dynamic linking to the wxGTK installed via portage. Too bad I didn't remember to turn screen's logging on when I did that... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to track this down (emerge of amaya)
Hi, On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:49:28 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attempting to emerge www-client/amaya The tail end of emerge shows: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: ../redland/raptor/.libs/libraptor.a: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [../bin/amaya] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/amaya-8.7/work/Amaya/LINUX-ELF/amaya' make: *** [amaya_prog] Error 2 !!! ERROR: www-client/amaya-8.7 failed. media-libs/raptor is installed. How to track this down? The ebuild needs a fix, or even better: upstream needs to be fixed. It's mentioned in bugzilla already (gentoo bugzilla, that is). I helped myself by compiling manually. The same problem occurs, but you can simply change the directory to Amaya/WX/redland/raptor, type make, return to Amaya/WX/amaya and continue building with another make. This would also give you a more current version of amaya, the one in portage is a little bit older. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Terminal formatting and colors escape sequences
Hi, On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:49:49 +0100 Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish to be able to run a program (eix-sync/diff-eix) in cron that prints colors (with use of --force-color) and then send that colored output as a mail. In order to get colors in a mail a have to use html. If there exist a program that is capable of converting escape sequences used for formatting and coloring an xterm to html I would love to know about it. I'd say, the Perl module HTML::FromANSI should do what you want (available from cpan). It brings a script, ansi2html, that provides access from the command line. Note that you might have to play with the TERM environment variable. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Help with backup script
Hi, On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:58:33 + Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 02 Mar 2006 14:37, John Jolet wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Paul wrote: On Thursday 02 Mar 2006 12:49, John Jolet wrote: snip Thanks for all your help -- I now have it working, it appears that the line didn't like the space between DISK and 2. I created another share (with no spaces and it worked) I didn't notice this thread and the last answers earlier, therefore I didn't react, but of course, spaces on command line must be escaped if not meant to separate arguments. i.e., both of the following should have worked, too: mount -t smbfs //lkg5f.homenet.com/DISK\ 2 /mnt/someplace mount -t smbfs //lkg5f.homenet.com/DISK 2 /mnt/someplace (of course, you can use ' - single apostrophe - instead of here.) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Writing to a 256MB Rom
Hi, On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:16:33 -0500 Ryan Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any difference between ROM and NVRam? Yes, of course. RAM is random-access-memory and in the case of DRAMs pretty volatile when not powered :-) If you have 256MB of NVRam to install an OS on it, the relevant question is: Is this accessible via some controller or emulation as a block device? That question can only be answered if you get more specific regarding that NVRAM... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFig Export
Hi, On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:25:25 -0500 Justin Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using xfig for figures for a paper that I am writing. When I hit the export menu option, it crashes. Inconvenient, since I need to get this into a format acceptable to latex (is there a package for .fig files?) AFAIK, Xfig calls transfig for this. Maybe you could try to run it manually? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] accelerate emerge
Hi, On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:05:39 +0100 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should prozilla or some other tool make the download be faster? When I download something with wget, or watch emerge invoking wget, it's always maxing out the saturation of the line. On my 1Gig line on my workstation at work it's usually _not_ saturizing the line. But I decided that it's not very polite to use a parallel fetching tool under these circumstances... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] traffic shaping
Hi, On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:16:35 +0200 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It happens as soon as I enter any one of the following lines: tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: prio 2 handle 1 fw flowid 1:20 [...] I then get the error message: RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument We have an error talking to the kernel Prior experience suggests that a module is missing or not loaded. The question is: Which one? Or am I completely wrong in my assumption? Did you compile QoS and/or fair queuing support into the kernel (i.e., not the traffic shaping device which is in the device section)? It should then load modules automatically (well, if configured in the kernel, that is). Hm, and you _did_ set up the qdiscs and classes first? OTOH, and I don't know for sure if that's needed before configuring the filters. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr as noexec? (was GB for / partition flamewar)
Hi, On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:51:21 +0100 Maarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the thread... I started wondering about something. I thought a 100% full root filesystem was deadly, but never thought about /tmp. So I'd like to ask, what is more deadly for a system, a full root FS, a full /tmp or a full /var ? Why ? And as a bonus question: which one is worse during boot, and which one is worse on a fully booted and running system ? /tmp shouldn't matter. full/read-only /var will disturb the gentoo rc scripts. When running, programs/daemons may act funny when they can't cope with the situation of full disks (e.g., PHP can't create session files anymore). You can't expect logging to work, too. Full/unwritable /etc may disturb some maintenance scripts, mount can't update /etc/mtab. Generally, nothing will prevent the kernel from booting and running any exec that's still readable. So even with full disks, e.g. init=/bin/bash in kernel command line will give a root shell and let you fix things (after remounting the relevant partitions read-write). So on a running system, /var and /tmp are the important trees that are expected to be writable. This should be the same for the gentoo rc scripts, but not the kernel bootup. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?
Hi,
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:49 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have currently syslog-ng running, but I think I remember that
similar configuration was in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf (maybe
commented out?)
Yes, it was commented out as the default setting is to send everything to
tty12:
# By default messages are logged to tty12...
#destination console_all { file(/dev/tty12); };
# ...if you intend to use /dev/console for programs like xconsole
# you can comment out the destination line above that references /dev/tty12
# and uncomment the line below.
destination console_all { file(/dev/console); };
So, now I've uncommented it but every single message is shown not only in
xconsole (which is fine), but in tty1 as well. The latter makes the boot
up messages look very messy indeed.
What a confusion. I use debian here which seems to be configured
differently. But read below...
I don't know if I am asking too much here, but is there a way to:
1. Continue with all messages shown in tty12 as per default syslog-ng
configuration.
2. Also show all/some messages to xconsole.
3. Do not pipe everything to console during/after boot - the default
messages there are adequate for my liking.
Perhaps I am a bit confused: what is the relationship between /dev/console
and xconsole?
Ah, the xconsole program man page explains it: By default, xconsole
reads from /dev/console. I didn't knew that.
What you want to archieve is more like the solution debian uses. I'll
post it here but I haven't tried it out so I cannot promise that it
works:
syslog-ng.conf:
---snip---
destination xconsole { pipe(/dev/xconsole); };
destination terminal { file(/dev/tty12); };
log { source(src); destination(xconsole); }
log { source(src); destination(terminal); }
---snip---
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:
---snip---
xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed -exitOnFail
-file /dev/xconsole
---snip---
That should do what you want to archieve.
Nice alternative to xconsole is root-tail...
-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge
Hi, On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:43:33 -0600 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 February 2006 03:31, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] is iptables needed on a Bridge': [...] If you /do/ want to do packet filtering on br0, I belive you can with iptables. A rule with in the filter table on the FORWARDING chain with -i br0 -o br0 should match. You could also do some logging this way. Nah, bridging is ethernet layer, not IP layer. So it will work using ebtables, not iptables. OTOH, when building a bridge, it usually doesn't make much sense to set up lots of rules for security's sake, but rather in order to reduce chattiness between the bridged networks (one may want to filter broadcasts and other noisy stuff). I also wanted to know if there's a need for iptables, mainly for security. But since there isnt' an ip addressed to br0, I would presume that it is safe, but I thought I'll check here 1st. I really can't answer the safety issue. From my understanding packets coming in br0 and be delivered locally, even when br0 doesn't have an IP address (and similarly with sending packets out br0) so I don't think not having an IP address really buys you any safety. It certainly does, but OTOH, the OP wrote he'll set up a third ethernet adapter for connecting to the bridging machine, so iptables may make sense on that interface. The FORWARD chain of iptables is only for forwarding IP packets (heh, it's obvious, isn't it? :-), i.e. when building a router. Well, I think it should be possible to redirect bridged packets to the local host in order to let them go through routing, but this seems to be a little cludgy, because the same thing probably can be archieved by using proxy_arp in the first place, which would save us from using promiscuous mode... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
Hi, On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:24:25 - Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:08:25 -0200 Urs Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime when I startup my computer, in X apears a minimized Console Log window icon. [...] What's the purpose of this window? What is it meant to log - as far as I can tell it just stays empty . . . That depends. It usually just outputs what is piped into /dev/xconsole. If nothing is piped in there, it won't display anything. But in most cases the syslog daemon is configured to output some message classes, if not all, to this device as well (additional to outputting to the log file and /dev/console). So it depends on syslog configuration whether syslog messages show up here. Other programs w/ the corresponding rights on /dev/xconsole can pipe their stuff there, too, of course. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
Hi, On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:23:20 - Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That depends. It usually just outputs what is piped into /dev/xconsole. [...] Would you mind showing a default/typical/custom (whatever) config file so that I can compare with mine? No problem. But it's from a debian system... From /etc/syslog.conf: ---snip--- # The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility. To use it, # you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option: # #$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...] # # NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably # busy site.. # daemon.*;mail.*;\ news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\ *.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn |/dev/xconsole ---snip--- I don't have currently syslog-ng running, but I think I remember that similar configuration was in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf (maybe commented out?) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
Hi, On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:08:25 -0200 Urs Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime when I startup my computer, in X apears a minimized Console Log window icon. [...] I could not find the script ou option which starts this window. Where can I disable it? I don't even know what's the name of the executable for this window. it's xconsole, AFAIK usually started by the default Xsession script coming with xdm. configuration is in /etc/X11/xdm. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting udev to create tun devices
Hi, On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 19:48:49 +0700 Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a device /dev/net/tun to use with hercules. tun is defined in the kernel and the traditional mknode method works fine but I loose it after a reboot. That's pretty normal. I think the application using the tun device is supposed to create them by issueing a few (?) syscalls. FYI, openvpn can do this and can create persistent tun-Sockets. you may want to emerge openvpn and enter the following in /etc/conf.d/local.start: ---snip openvpn --mktun --dev tun0 ---snip Udev should then take care of creating the device. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags - Why use ntpl/ntplonly in make.conf?
Hi, On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:40:39 -0500 fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myself I tried ntpl (and also ntplonly at someones suggestion). It is supposed to offer better thread support, especially if you have an SMP or dual core system. I have an SMP system. It's just more lightweight by using (more) kernel mechanisms. It leverages the binding between threads and processes. This of course means that one can only profit if one uses multithreading apps. Maybe it was just for me, but this turned into a total disaster. I later found that it was due to setting ntplonly, which apparently disables old, non-ntpl support entirely. Which is very very bad for apps that don't yet support ntpl, or something like that. Well, it's bad for apps that weren't compiled with nptl support. Usually, there's not much that keeps an app utilizing the old linuxthreads from using NPTL instead. But due to this being part of glibc, it obviously doesn't work for programs linked statically or against an older glibc. My suggestion is to talk to gentoo devs, and decide for yourself if you think it's worth it. And by all means stay away from ntplonly. I'm doing fine with nptlonly for some years now. (not *that* many years, of course :-) Today my system is ntpl (without ntplonly), on an SMP system, and I don't notice any improvement at ALL. Which is VERY annoying considering the complete insanity I went through for about a week. Well, maybe you aren't using multithreaded apps? Or the threading overhead is neglegible? For me it makes a huge difference on my pentium-200mmx (yes...) running VDR (my mediacenter-box), which is heavily threaded. All other apps I'm using don't use threads (in fact, some do but arre using more high-level threading implementations aside from linuxthreads and NPTL). Lots of apps I'm using are still just forking processes and talking via IPC. Yes, I know only some apps support ntpl, but the impression given to me was that it would speed up the whole system. Which is certainly not true. OK, but that was a too high expectation. It's never been advertised as high-performance general tool. And since you knew there are only some apps making profit of threads, you should have known that the effect was likely to be small. I can recommend NPTL for situations where threading really matters. And it only speeds threading, so whether using it or not is a matter of analyzing your application landscape... BTW, I don't suggest switching to NPTL either. If one starts a new Gentoo installation, I think it would be a good idea to use NPTL right from the start (and even try nptlonly). Switching from linuxthreads to nptlonly brings some risks mentioned above. So a emerge -e world may be a good idea in the case one goes down that road. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...
Hi, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:08:38 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the appropriate line to /etc/postfix/master.cf and it all seems to be working ok. But it doesn't seem to be very accurate in the default configuration - I have a mailbox with about 4,000 messages, approximately 98% of which are spam and it gets only about 1/3 of them. The statement in `perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf`that 5.0 is the default setting, is quite aggressive does not seem true here. I'd strongly suggest using the Bayesian filters, per-user, that is. For a mail setup at my company for about 20 people with high mail traffic I'm running a nightly cron job to archieve that. Basically it works like this: - All incoming mail is scanned by Spamassassin, Bayes enabled - Users have virtual homedirs for Spamassassin - A nightly cron job learns all mail in users' INBOX.Spam.LearnSpam and INBOX.Spam.LearnHam folders (it's a simple shell script) That way all users can put mails they'd like to be learned as being spam in the respective IMAP folder and have them automatically learned overnight. Simple setup, highly effective, simple for my users. In order to give more hints to setup this, it would be helpful to know which mail storage is being used (IMAP? What server? What storage?). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...
Hi, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:07:51 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jan 2006, at 12:56, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: I'd strongly suggest using the Bayesian filters, per-user, that is... [...] What improvement rate are you seeing for this, please? About 99% of _Spam_ mails are positively recognized. Up to now I've never encountered a false positive. My concern with these particular users, who are not particularly email-savvy, is that they ain't going to train the filters. I just don't see it happening. And if I teach them to train the filters by dragging dropping into the learn folder then I anticipate perhaps just one of them complaining but why can't I just right-click it and `mark as junk' in Outlook?. True. My answer is: because then you'll get all the spam in your webmail when being on business trip :-) Basically, I teach them to use server-side mail filtering with the same reasoning. But it makes me think: Does Outlook set some kind of flag to the mail? Does it note anything in the headers? I'd really prefer all spam-filtering to be invisible to the user. I don't demand a high success rate: Bayesian filtering should get 99.5% or above, I think, but I'd be happy with 95%. In fact, lots of my users are happy with about that rate and without learning of Spam. Bayesian filters are activated for all of them, but they are only trained by autolearning. SpamAssassin is currently getting about 33%, which is next to useless. agreed, and I bet you can improve that. You can also decide to have all users share your Bayesian database. So you don't have to teach them to learn Spam. IMAP server is Dovecot storing messages in maildirs in users' home directories - this makes it convenient for your suggestion, but I just don't really want to go there. You can, as described, reduce the concept at many points... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SIOCADDRT: No such device
Hi, On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:50:05 +0200 Ryan Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - * Adding routes - * default ... - * via ... - gw: Unknown host - * 192.168.4.1 ... Your /etc/conf.d/net is broken in this regard. Read the example (net.example) for correct syntax. It's probably using /sbin/ip, thus different syntax from /sbin/route. Okay I tried the following: - ziig conf.d # route add 192.168.4.1 - SIOCADDRT: No such device Well, you should tell where you want your route going to... This however did not give an error: - ziig conf.d # route add 192.168.4.1 gw 192.168.4.1 But should not be needed as 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 should automatically route through dev eth0 after ifconfig. Hint: What you maybe want to issue is route add default gw 192.168.4.1 or ip route add default via 192.168.4.1? This should route all non-local traffic through that machine. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] data base program
Hi, On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:45:19 +0100 capsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBase is part of OpenOffice... and is really slow on my laptop. OK, please don't try to enforce your own name... it's OpenOffice Base, not OpenBase, as you've been told... Do you know any replacement of OpenOffice for my laptop ? :) koffice, probably. Or a combination of gnumeric/abiword, possibly. BTW. Is there a tool to convert mysql (and possible other) databases to and from ms-access *.mdb's ? There's an ODBC connector for MySQL, yes. You can use mysql tables in MS Access this way. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fetchmail
Hi, I run fetchmail to poll 3 servers every minute... and while this has worked fine for weeks, last night it froze at 2am and stopped polling. When I killed the fetchmail process and ran fetchmail again this afternoon, things jumped to life again and appear back to normal... but I wished I didn't have to make the manual intervention. Fetchmail is version 6.2.5.2+RPA+NTLM+SDPS+SSL+INET6+NLS from portage and has the following in ~/.fetchmailrc [...] -- Can anyone tell me why this happened? Hard to say. There's no evidence in the cited log. I think you may want to increase verbosity of the logs... Hm, and next time don't just kill the running instance but check what it's actually doing using strace and ltrace (or even a debugger, but this won't help much if debug symbols are stripped...). You've compiled in a lot of auth mechs, so it may well be due to a related library (hence I suggested ltrace, too). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
