Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 01/25/2013 05:51 AM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. For the sake of completeness, its worth pointing out that intel is exiting the entire desktop mobo / kit business. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 01/25/2013 08:12 PM, Inder singh wrote: Oh, You touched the thorny nerve. I have faced and felt pity on a Dell Laptop with UEFI. What laptop ? What problem ? Did it not have a legacy or a bios fallback mode ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Contact points for CentOS users in India
On 01/17/2013 08:33 AM, Arun Khan wrote: Is there any plan to put the use cases on CentOS wiki sorted by Big, Medium, Small, Micro enterprise? We could use it to show case, in our migration proposals, that indeed Centos + other GNU/Linux distros have real word use case. That would be good, and one of the goals here - but lots, if not most, of the people opt out of me posting this info publicly. If you can help change that, or bring in some stories that we can publish it would be awesome. - KB -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Contact points for CentOS users in India
Hi, On 01/10/2013 12:38 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: I'm trying to put together something of a user-story and need to talk with people who have used, and continue to use CentOS at scale in India. Any pointers would be appreciated. thanks for all the contacts offlist guys; there are some super awesome user-stories in there! -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Contact points for CentOS users in India
On 01/11/2013 03:46 AM, Satish Kr Malanch wrote: Very stable 100% reliable similar to Debian and rhel. For a server purpose i will strongly recomend it. Using this as a mail ,file,ftp,dns ,nating and proxy server from last 4 years without any issue. Thats good to hear :) -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Contact points for CentOS users in India
hi guys, I'm trying to put together something of a user-story and need to talk with people who have used, and continue to use CentOS at scale in India. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Multiple installable distributions on a USB
On 12/10/2012 06:59 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: I want to be able to take a, say, 16GB USB pendrive and put multiple distribution install ISOs onto it. Is there a utility that will do this, create a nice boot menu that allows you to select the distribution of your choice, and then run the installer of that distribution? I have a raspberry_pi with a 64gb sd card that holds the repos; setup with dhcp + tftp and cobbler, it lets me install a bunch of things over pxe ( the client machine needs pxe - although everything I see these days has that, even laptops ) -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Seriously talented dev-ops engineer to run the whole stack
On 11/07/2012 07:38 AM, Sandeep wrote: Why not YATE, http://yate.null.ro/; Yate is modular, efficiently programmed in C++ from scratch and much more stable even the svn/development version works out from the box. Well, I'll confess that this is the first time that I have heard about Yate. I That makes two of us, having had a look around, it does not appear to have had any sort of code audit. I'd be keen on keeping an eye out for that ( or even instigating one ) -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] sudoers - how do we manage it?
On 10/16/2012 09:09 AM, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a Open Source tool which can only manage /etc/sudoers. Now http://augeas.net/ -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] kernel programming training
On 06/12/2012 01:03 PM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: Hello, Is there anyone / institute giving kernel programming training in Delhi or around Delhi, or anywhere in north India ? for someone who knows howto write code, and understands C - maybe has a bit of experience in that - the actual guides and docs available off kernel.org are plenty to get started with. there are no certified kernel developers around anywhere, if thats what you are looking for. And peer review is the only way to get code upstreamed, its also the most productive and the fastest way to learn about kernel coding in Linux -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Recommendations for .in domain name registrar
On 03/31/2012 05:28 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, Has anyone used a domain name registrar that offers .in registry? thats a loaded question at the best of times, generally : avoid all resellerbclub resellers, look at their policy, their ownership gurantee and protection - make sure you look at ( and even if not doing wonky stuff ) their legal policy and what your recourse might be. then mostly come to the conclusion that they all suck. Massive market gap for a registrar that mostly does the right thing most of the time. -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Recommendation for low-end Android phones
On 12/29/2011 04:57 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, I was looking for a cheap (sub-10K INR) Android phone that I could experiment on, and not particularly worry if I bricked it. is the ZTE Blade an option ? I've had one for over a year and its a fairly usable device. Bricking it is hard ( much like most android phons... ) just make sure the secondary bootloader is intact and you can recover the device from pretty much any state. runs cyanogen 7.x fine, or stock 2.3.6 ; I've seen an ICS port running on one as well ( but havent tried that on my device, not sure how it will handle the ram requirements ... ) -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] error witth rpmbuild
On 11/23/2011 04:07 AM, PANKAJ KUMAR wrote:
%define _topdir/root/net-snmp
%define name net-snmp
%define version5.6.1.1
Name: %{name}
is that really the entire spec file ? you are missing lots of things.. a
%files section would be good to get going. Take a look at this :
https://nazar.karan.org/cgit/net-snmp/tree/net-snmp.spec its a sample
net-snmp spec file you can use as a template and fix as you need.
I suspect 5.6 will shoe-horn in fairly cleanly into that.
on the other hand, you might want to consider using fpm, its a wrapper
around rpmbuild - and its meant to be a a very very basic inplace rpm
build tool. Its almost never the right or the best long term solution,
but if you need something in a hurry, and dont know what you are doing
in terms of systems management or rpm's; its something which might be
handy : https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki just keep in mind that
it does *no* sanity testing, you get to keep and then fix/livewith all
the broken bits.
- KB
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi
On 07/15/2011 03:32 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: - get an android device that has proper tether support Skipping Android 2 for now due to its pathetic battery management -- all reports indicate that Android 3 is going to be way better in that arena, so will await its presence in the market. Also, need to find an Android vendor who doesn't pay royalty to MicroSux. I get about 3 days out of my ZTE Blade device, its running a hacked 2.3 at the moment; btw. Android 3 is mostly targeting Tablets and isnt supposed to be for mobile phones. I might be wrong on this but no manufacturer is looking at Android 3 for mobile phones at this point. - get a wifi device/gsm bridge like the huawei E585 ( a MiFi ) That looks interesting, could add it to the shopping list. its nice in that it will let 3 - 5 devices hook up over Wifi. the E585 tends to go about 8 - 12 hours of usage, before needing a charge. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Best pre-paid 3G option in Delhi
Hi, On 07/14/2011 03:41 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: Right, so now: which Linux-compatible data card? I presume it makes sense to buy your own data card and use the telco's SIM in that? I think the age of the data card is now gone, the options worth considering : - get an android device that has proper tether support - get a wifi device/gsm bridge like the huawei E585 ( a MiFi ) - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On 05/27/2011 12:01 PM, Vivek Kapoor wrote: There's an IMAP feature called IDLE which enables detection of incoming emails. So, as soon as an email comes, the client is intimated instantly that works for imap clients that support this sort of functionality. however, BB do not use imap natively, all email is routed via the BB app server ( which does the content get and content push ). The Push to device is dependant on the signal type being used by the cell provider ( which is why you cant use backberry services, unless activated by the provider ). That is my understanding on how things worked till about a year or so back, there have been quite a few updates from RIM in the mean time, so its possible they have a generic imap app on there too. But I thought it might be worth investigating. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On 05/27/2011 01:16 PM, Vivek Kapoor wrote: I may have been a bit unclear. By referring to the IMAP client, I wasn't referring to the device itself. I was referring to the Blackberry Internet Service which the service providers such as Vodafone and Airtel provide to their blackberry customers. ah ok, in which case IDLE wont help, the BIS instances dont support that till their 2010 Jan release ( or so the guy sitting next to me, who set this up for a 500K userbase says ). he also says that the expected poll frequency in the Jan 2010 BIS instances is 15 to 120 minutes depending on capacity and load. post Jan 2010 it can be configured ( by the network operator) There is some IDLE support in these newer instances, but it seems that very few network operators run that at this time. ( just communicating what I'm being told ) - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OFF-TOPIC] Looking to loan/rent Blackberry
On 05/27/2011 05:12 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: he also says that the expected poll frequency in the Jan 2010 BIS I meant pre Jan 2010 - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Question about SWAP and tempfs
On 04/26/2011 03:03 PM, Manish Kumar wrote: It's no hard and fast rule that swap space should be 2xRAM size. Thats partially true. The idea of 2xram came from the linux-2.2 kernel VM and how things were handled in those days ( and I suspect before then ); Having 2xram actually made some of the swap ops faster in/out and there should be plenty of quantifiable evidence for that around. thinks have changed quite a lot since those days. with a newish 2.6 kernel = 8 GB of ram and the sort of app one might be running its worth considering what you want to achieve with the swap. In most cases, unless you are running nearline ssd at 400MB/sec or better +rw - swapping into 4+ GB is usually 'bad' for the overall machine state. Some swap usage will happen, and unless you are trying to fix a real issue - just going with system distro defaults is considered reasonable. btw, most sysadmins these days keep swap limited to 4 or in some cases 8 gb, but still consider aligning it with real physical ram. So 10GB on a 48GB ram machine sounds off. I'd recommend 8 or 12 instead. w.r.t tmpfs, its allocated and managed dynamically. So its not usually a big concern. However, why use tmpfs at all ! - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Monitor Broadband usage
On 03/26/2011 10:52 AM, Abhinav Sahai wrote: I have an Airtel broadband at home. As per Airtel's FUP even unlimited plans come with a 25GB cap on the usage.Even though i am on that plan since 8 months, since past 2 months after some 20 days i get a mail from airtel saying that my limit has expired and speed goes down to 256 KBPS (from 1 MBPS). 25 GB ( bytes, not bits ) is quite a large amout of traffic to comsume in a single month, unless there is a lot of streaming, downloads of large media etc going on. At home, I seem to average about 18 - 21 GB a month, and this is including the fact that we do some streaming ( BBC's iplayer! in HD ) and i have internet radio running through the waking hours of the day. Is there a way i can find out the daily usage on each machine through a setup on a *single* computer? Does the router/modem device have an snmp option ? that is the only way ( doing metrics at the edge ) that you are going to get accurate figures. Also might be worth making sure your neighbours are not 'sharing' the connections :) - kB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting with Colin Charles?
On 01/28/2011 08:05 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote: Hi, Colin Charles is in town, and was interested in meeting up with people. Say Hi to him from my side! - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Server is hacked, pl. advice
On 12/03/2010 06:26 AM, abhishek jain wrote: can anyone here suggest me what should i do, i am not sure how user1 logged into server, further what does the command perl udp.pl 92.114.6.32 0 22 mean which eats up 99.7% of CPU . You have already had a lot of good advice here, I'll add a few more things : - backup you data, and only your data - backup anything else you might want from the machine, but in a different place to your data - Call and speak to the hosting company - make sure they understand its security issue, and treat it with a high priority; Make sure they know what your level of linux competence is and how you can help them. - Insist on a new VM being installed for you. Dont try and clean this one up, just get your data and make sure its destoyed - Take steps to make sure this does not happen again :) All the best. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Xen: Dom0 vs guest disk buffer/cache
On 11/29/2010 11:13 AM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: I am configuring a Xen host with 4-5 guest VMs and have a question about allocation of memory for buffer and cache. As I understand it, all guest disk IO is routed through dom0 first. Does this mean that dom0 buffer/cache is used for guest I/O as well, and guest buffer/cache is redundant? Its been a while since I looked at blockdev stuff in Xen; but I seem to remember that hostside buffers depends on what sort of a storage setup you have in place. If there is a generic file-as-disk exported from dom0 - domU; There is some level of caching that the host can contribute. However, if its blockdev - domU (eg. a logical vol, or a physical disk ) you wont get any filesystem level caching on the host, but there might still be an opportunity to run with seriously high device buffers ( if you so desire and trust your setup! ). Things get a bit more complex once you move to remote storage, eg a SAN or even just a remote linux iscsi target. Since you can then tweak a few things on that end. I have seen at least one commercial xen VPS vendor disabling buffer and cache for guests. Is this simply a tradeoff for memory vs performance, or is there really no benefit to having two levels of buffers and cache? Are you sure it was a Xen based VPS ? I've seen people using openvz try stuff like that. In the end it boils down to what level of service you need. If you have nearline storage, with blockdevices being exported directly under xen in hvm mode, there wont be two levels of buffers anyway. I know this does not directly answer your question, but hopefully gets you going in the right direction. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/18/2010 07:10 AM, A. Mani wrote: The best ebook format is epub (for blind people .txt may be easier to use). Kindle does not support epub. perhaps offlist if you prefer, but I would like to know why you think a storage format might have such a drastic impact on content delivery. kindle supports epub format'ed books fine given that non-drm'ed epub documents can be converted to pdf. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/18/2010 07:41 PM, A. Mani wrote: perhaps offlist if you prefer, but I would like to know why you think a storage format might have such a drastic impact on content delivery. epub is a Xhtml + XML based format meant specifically for ebooks. you are still talking about the storage format, and not the delivery mechanism. Blind people, afaik, dont give a rat's ass as to what or how the content is stored. Its the delivery in such situations that makes it relevant. the point you made is that epub would convert better into braile or even text-to-speach, as compared to any other format. I'm just asking you how you got to that result. Editing : pdf, djvu are not meant for this. Size: epub is better than others lines can be wrapped in epub but not in pdfs/djvu ... this is important for reading the same document on other readers/pc Atleast the publishing, media and newsprint industry would disagree with you on being able to edit or change column width in pdf files :) You can render pdf into raster files - but one would consider that for the target audience surely ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/17/2010 08:02 AM, satyaakam goswami wrote: I want to start a Library for FOSS books, But the basic math says this is a difficult task.. one such initiative is already on http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131953620168994 do try to collaborate I am intrigued why there is an interest in physical books these days. Pretty much everywhere I look ( from the Pasteur Institute in Paris to the UCL and Kings College here in London ) the libraries are all scaling back, dropping periodicals in physical media and moving to digital formats. Even most course-ware is preferred in digital formats these days. The Pasteur institute has even gone to the extent of reducing to almost half their library floor space! I don't mean to be negative, but just wondering what the state of play in Delhi is at the moment. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On 11/17/2010 12:20 PM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old) but I still find it much easier to read on paper than on a display. It'll be a sad day when all you can get is digitised books, unless digital paper technology has advanced at least a few order of magnitude by then. Have you seen the latest generation readers ? eg. the BN Nook or Amazon's Kindle3 ? I've been using the new amazon kindle3 for about 2 months now - and its quite nice - zero eye strain ( just about as comfortable to read over long durations as regular paper ). As long as they can make it possible to resell books and lend books to other people, I dont see myself going back to buying a paper book anymore ( as long as the epaper version exists ). - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
Hi, On 11/17/2010 01:20 PM, Nandeep Mali wrote: I don't know but eReaders are just not for everyone yet. I don't like I dont think the ebook readers are really a 1:1 match with the reason for decline in library size's and content. Its more of a case of what content, and how its consumed. Conventional non-reference or tech books fulfilled a different requirement niche in the past. Ref and Tech books now carry content that is easily replaced elsewhere. Periodicals have their own contention with usage patterns and requirements. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Meeting on 21st
On 10/19/2010 06:31 AM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: Time : 21st Oct 2011, 5pm to 7pm Venue : Delhi Haat, Navdanya Stall aggh! shame I will miss it ( only get into Delhi that weekend, for a few days ) - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
On 09/28/2010 04:32 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: It depends on how a person gets the RHCE certificate. Most of my friends and known persons, just do a crash course on How to crack RHCE? for 5 days and win the exams. Thats just sad. It would be interesting to see what the course developers at Red Hat would make of that. One can do a similar course in the US / UK as well - but to qualify for the course, one needs to alreayd have some level of experience, and they are not cheap. I guess no certification is cheap. Also, in all fairness, I would not hire someone who had an RHCE, but I would hire someone who knew what they were doing and brought a RHCE along. But most of the RHCE people, have tons of fears on programming. They are ready run away even to read a piece of code. They think that admin is the easiest job and coding is the toughest one. I might argue that its the other way around :) But then RHCE as a course is built towards people doing admin. I dont think there really is something of that nature for people wanting to get into coding. One would need to go down the route of a usual / regular programming course. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
On 09/28/2010 08:25 PM, Gaurav Mishra wrote: Few piece of advice which may help in getting experience and exposure when a fresher is looking for a job. ... all good points, I just want to add another one : - Look at and join the usergroups / mailing lists / forums for applications that you are most interested in and try to work with the issues that people report there. Thats a fantastic way to get right into the track of things for that specific app. Eg, if its webservers you are interested in - get onto the lists for apache / nginx / lighttpd and see what issues come through the deluge. And remember to actually work through some of the issues ( setting up a bunch of VM's and testing specific things is easy ). And get onto more than 1 list, dont get project specific. That would help you get a nice good overview of things in the segment, rather than just about that one app. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
Hi, On 09/27/2010 07:06 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Thats a good post and something that really gets into the basics of things. Things often overlooked. A couple of things though : - you say that its hard to hire a fresh RHCE holder because they have no experience : I would say you need to perhaps consider how they got the rhce in that case, since a part of the rhce idea is to only let people though who can demonstrate that they have onhands admin ability. If that sytem is broken, someone should be concerned! - There are quite a lot of jobs out there which have nothing to do with admin at all. Remember that one only needs 1 admin to run many machines, services, process instances; but there is always a need to write the code in the first place. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How to get wifi on visit to Delhi
On 09/19/2010 10:06 PM, Llywelyn Owen wrote: I will be visiting Delhi in the next week or so to work on the Games coverage for a fortnight. I plan to bring my Linux Netbook to keep on top of my email. Some of my sad Windows using colleague want to do the same. We've been told that wifi is either expensive or non existent. Our hotel (Regency Hayatt - not far from the tennis venue) has prohibitively expensive wifi internet. Grab one of the MiFi things that three.co.uk are selling, make sure its unlocked to all gsm networks. When in India, just get yourself a pay-as-you-go ( its called prepay in India ) SIMM cards and you should get gprs rate ( ~ 14 - 15k/sec ) WiFi for upto 5 devices on the go. Its not the fastest thing you've ever seen, but it does tend to work and if you are stationary in hotel rooms or venues, it will be fairly consistent too. There are quite a few people on the list here who would be able to recommend service providers for the SIMM - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Linux installation server
On 09/13/2010 11:48 AM, Narender wrote: Hi i want to setup a linux installation server for quick build of linux machines in network. what i found on google was Kickstart and cobbler. https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ http://www.linux-mag.com/id/6747/ Cobbler is used by a lot of people, in a lot of places. It works very well. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] kernel: cciss: fifo full errors
On 08/31/2010 11:07 AM, Lukram Debendro wrote: I am supporting RHEl 5 linux servers and we have few servers on Linux kernel version 2.6.18-92.el5 which are showing the following error: kernel: cciss: fifo full I have checked several blogs but unable to get any solution. Please let me know in case anyone have faced this problem before. What did redhat support haveto say about this ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] (no subject)
On 08/30/2010 04:07 PM, abhishek dubey wrote: Sir how can i help you. suggest me something i am ready for it. auto-detecting video geometry changes and auto-adapting the present settings for that change could use some love. is that the sort of thing you had in mind ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Calling all Apache Solr/open-source search engine users in Delhi/NCR
On 08/21/2010 12:30 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: whether these are available on the weekend). As a plus point (for some), the office is right across the highway from the Howzzat micro-brewery. is'nt that reason enough to invalidate the other option :) - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Calling all Apache Solr/open-source search engine users in Delhi/NCR
Hi Gora, On 08/18/2010 05:09 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: Please follow up to this message, ideally with a brief description of any work that you have done in this area. Hopefully we can arrange a meeting for this weekend, else for the next. I am not usually in the target geographic area normally, but will be there for a few days in late October this year. A bit far away still. I'm quite keen on 'search' as a whole and language/trending in fulltext as a specific niche. Have worked with a dozen odd commercial offerings and atleast six different open source fulltext engines. Presently working on a solr based system resource trending plugin for collectd ( mostly because I am lazy and dont want to write either the rrd or UI components myself. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Gpl test
hi guys, Just wondering if there has been any gpl test in the indian courts or if anyone has been brought up in the courts for gpl violation. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Where can I buy a Linksys SPA3102 VoIP Adapter?
On 04/21/2010 03:57 AM, Nishant Prakash Kashyap wrote: Terminating VoIP to PSTN is still illegal here. But people can use it(ATA Adaptor) if suppose they have taken a US/Canada VoIP Connection and will use it an telephone. This is interesting, in that it implies I Can extend an iax trunk from the UK into India and have any number of people join the trunk locally there ( either with their own asterisk install's or as sip clients ) to be able to get a UK dial-tone. Or do you mean its legal if there is no pstn interaction anywhere out of the CUG. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Where can I buy a Linksys SPA3102 VoIP Adapter?
On 04/20/2010 07:03 PM, gurteshwar singh wrote: Hi, I am looking for a Linksys SPA3102 adapter. I called a few places in Nehru Place, only one said he could procure it in a week. All of them seem to have the Linksys PAP2T adapter readily available. If you know some place I might find it, please send me a contact number. Also if anybody's using anything else that has min. 1 FXS + 1 FXO + 1 WAN port with Freeswitch, please email me. *cough* is this stuff legal in India now ? *cough* - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] 21 monitor in portrait mode?
On 04/16/2010 09:16 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: so if you could get a pivotdisplay equivalent today, you could dont all 22 inch Dell displays do this today ? all the 1920x1200 capable ones definitely do ( I've seen the 2407 sidemounted, as well as 2709 ones ). There are a bunch of samsung displays around as well which will rotate from landscape to portrait mode without any issues. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Hardware RAID card where status can be monitored from CentOS and Debian
On 04/06/2010 01:02 PM, Tarun Dua wrote: Any recommendations for hardware RAID cards which can be monitored for RAID health from CentOS and Debian. Also any experience in actual perfomance improvement with hardware RAID cards over software RAID. I am intending to run RAID 10. any 3ware made = 9550 card or any Areca made card from the last 3 years for SATA disks. For SCSI, I'm only really using LSI at the moment made by and sold by / as LSI. Most of the branded LSI kit, like what you find in IBM / Dell / HP kit also works fine. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Hardware RAID card where status can be monitored from CentOS and Debian
On 04/06/2010 03:10 PM, Tarun Dua wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org wrote: any 3ware made= 9550 card or any Areca made card from the last 3 years for SATA disks. For SCSI, I'm only really using LSI at the moment made by and sold by / as LSI. Most of the branded LSI kit, like what you find in IBM / Dell / HP kit also works fine. And does RAID status monitoring works fine ? depends on what you mean by fine. You will need to do some parsing in a script and feed that into your monitoring system like nagios yourself. Here is some output from the tw_cli command line client that people use with 3ware cards : # ./tw_cli.x86_64 /c0 show Unit UnitType Status %RCmpl %V/I/M Stripe Size(GB) Cache AVrfy -- u0RAID-1OK - - - 465.651 ON OFF u1RAID-10 OK - - 64K 931.303 ON OFF Port Status Unit SizeBlocksSerial --- p0 OK u0 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0J6Q9 p1 OK u0 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0JGPX p2 OK u1 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0JG5W p3 OK u1 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0JG63 p4 OK u1 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0JGNX p5 OK u1 465.76 GB 976773168 9QM0GW98 p6 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p7 NOT-PRESENT - - - - Name OnlineState BBUReady StatusVolt Temp Hours LastCapTest --- bbu On Yes OKOK OK 0 xx-xxx- So that would give you details on everything, including the interface, the volumes under it, the disks and the Battery unit. What you do with that info is upto you :) Make sure you buy a hba that actually does what you need, fits in the machine you want it to work with, and has the ports / setups that you need. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open source Web Server load monitoring tools
On 03/25/2010 04:09 AM, Ravi Kumar wrote: erm, no - you seem confused about exactly how fs cache and tmpfs works. Please enlighten me. :) this is what you said : -- Anyhow, as I know, modern servers load the content in memory, delivers it to client, and keeps the cache in RAM for reducing disk level IO.. This can clearly be seen, a long running apache just fills more and more RAM even if the load reduces. -- I perhaps over trimmed my reply. And, I didn't said anything about fs cache... you need to reread your own email :) I really would like to know why tmpfs would be the corner to look in for Webserver performance gains. its one of many areas that would help in shifting data out of your service. It gets a bit more complex when you get into large storage areas (eg. on a webserver with 128 gigs of ram, partitioning out 32 gigs for the master db, with 8gb dedicated for 4 replica instances will give you a mysql query rate thats about 21 times higher than a single mysql instance hitting disk. This is using bog standard mysql configs. One can tune some specific areas up, but cascade that level of tuning down to a multi node setup and you will still see a higher read-query rate. And none of these are specifics that apply across the board to any and every app, you will need to test and tune to meet a specific requirement - but these are good places to look. For these cases, the word Exception is used :) ? Don't you agree. If you put some generalization, others should not disagree because they found one or two of cases where generalization failed. I didn't stated the Universal Truth. right, I am assuming that common sense isnt that elusive. trying to shoehorn a Terrabyte into tmpfs would be exceptionally counter productive. But in real - Twitter doesnt let its user upload/showcase their media/pictures etcs with their tweets. But users have ability to upload and change their background which can be any picture less than 800KB in size. And Twitter has more than 350,000 users (as per highscalability.com http://highscalability.com). Even 1% users uploaded content makes a huge contribution to their static media size. Twitter started using Amazon AWS as CDN. It clearly proves they have a good amount of static media. You are basing this on pure assumption. I know, for a fact, that youtube's most popular content comes from ram and not disk. So going on your rationalisation, I guess we can all assume that youtube does not have large content ? btw, are you sure Twitter are using CloudFront ? afaik, twitter only use the s3 storage backend. Read this, http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html This is really a nice information. Everything well said and tested and used in real life rather than theories. The nature of the original post conveyed a sense of little or no control over content supply and code control and the effort seems to be directed at resource control - which is what my whole point was, dont focus on resource control, but work on the same problem from the other end. ie Improve a delivery rate and maximise resource usage. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open source Web Server load monitoring tools
On 03/25/2010 06:54 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: on a webserver with 128 gigs of ram, partitioning out 32 gigs for the master db, with 8gb dedicated for 4 replica instances will give you a mysql query rate thats about 21 times higher than a single mysql instance hitting disk. I actually still have my test results for this setup, will push them online somewhere soon. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Setup terminal server
On 03/23/2010 07:25 PM, Varun Mittal wrote: I m in jp university and i was planning to set up a linux terminal server in the college, i have taken a public ip accessible all over the college. Only problem is that i cannot make changes to the dhcp server. Please suggest a reliable way to setup a tftp server. unless your dhcp server is able to hand out bootp paths, pxe isnt going to work very well ( which is what I am guessing you meant by tftp server - the tftp process is only one part of the network bootstrap ). if you are able to run any service on the network, look at rarpd, which would allow you to hardwire a machine to a specific IP and also pass along bootp info - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] internship with linux group
On 03/19/2010 08:24 PM, vivek gupta wrote: whoever can help i want to know how i can utilise my summer holidays with a linux group and in mean while do my summer internship computer engg 3rd year any information is welcome thanks in advance have you considered looking up the google summer of code process ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] ilug.in and ilug.org.in For Sale
On 02/27/2010 06:29 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: On 26 February 2010 21:59, Nishant Prakash Kashyapnpkash...@gmail.com wrote: An opportunity for Linux community member and Indian patriots. Does anyone wants to be proud owner of ilug.in or ilug.org.in The domains are with me and is for sale. Mail me if anyone is interested. Why not be the true patriot yourself and donate these to community? I hate pseudo patriots or those who want only others to show their patriotism and carry it on their shoulders. Sorry If I am out of line here. Based on what I culd briefly make out, and IANAL - if there was a ilug India, the Dispute Resolution policy for .in seems quite clear on the fact that handing over these domains would be mostly an academic task. -KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Now Big Brother wants your DNS...
Hi Ashish, On 03/12/09 19:43, Ashish SHUKLA wrote: Google's Anycasted Public DNS resolvers http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/index.html I was looking at this in complete amazement - sure people can work out trivially from here that all they ( google ) want from here is you click path and metrics on other advertising media + content hosts being used. And given that they already know a boat load of stuff about anyone ( check this as an example : https://www.google.com/dashboard/ ), this might be something nice to add on top for them. On the flip side, armed with this extra bit of info - what can google to do make my internet experience even better than it is now ? And no, I dont suffer from high latency in my DNS lookup's - so thats not a problem I am keen on solving at the moment. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Now Big Brother wants your DNS...
On 04/12/09 18:13, Devendra Gera wrote: The fact that OpenDNS doesn't return a NXDOMAIN response also breaks the MySQL build (the test suite specifically). I'm sure there are other things which depend on the standard, specified behaviour which break in a similar manner. the mysql test-suite is mostly a pile of wasted manure anyway. I'm guessing you are talking about when it tries to hit a non existant domain by dreaming up one of its own ? well that test doesnt pass anywhere you hit wildcard domains either. the bigger problem with opendns is that they can change the internet to be whatever they want it to be and ride off content that isnt theirs in the first place. Doing dns isnt hard, doing it properly and well is. Which is why so many isps's still dont quite get it and why so much of the traffic still goes upto the roots, all the time. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Question Regarding RedHat 5.4 Download
On 11/02/2009 06:25 AM, Harish Pillay wrote: My question is, will it stop working after 30 days? I want to use it without RedHat Support, can i use it after 30 days? Do read the EULA. You are obligated NOT to use it after 30 days, although it will continue to run. But there will be no updates, and you rish running a machine with security issues on the internet. If you just need something for free and dont need the Red Hat support - consider using CentOS instead. -- Karanbir Singh London, UK| http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219 | Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to install RHEL 5.4
On 10/30/2009 10:36 AM, Cool G wrote: Hello All, I'm trying to install RHEL 5.4 from DVD. During start installing process it gives error : file ncurses-5.5-24-20060715.i386.rpm cannot be opened. This is due to missing file, a corrupt package of corrupt media. Please verify your installation source. Please let me know urgently what can be done to fix this issue. what did the Redhat Support people haveto say about this ? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ILUGD meeting: 6.30pm, Fri., 23rd Oct., 2009, SIT, JNU
On 10/25/2009 02:46 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote: I am requesting Karanbir to allow us to put up slides of his talk, as also of a longer tutorial that he is still working on and would need clearance for. However, these will not quite substitute for interacting directly with Karanbir at the talk. I will send the slides over to you today, thanks for hosting them. The conversations were really good, and it was quite cool to see people in the listening side of things actively getting involved and adding / commenting about things. Andrew mentioned something about a spike/test setup for some sort of a completely automated infrastructure stack. Is that still on the cards ? - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop
On 10/12/2009 05:07 PM, narendra sisodiya wrote: I have purchased Acer Aspire 4736z, you can checkout that it is falls under your requirement.. Just as a matter of interest, do you have suspend working on there ? and are you able to auto-suspend on display close, with auto-wakeup on display open ? I have, a rather old now at 4 years, an Acer Ferrari 4005 and this is the one thing that has never ever worked for me, ever. and always been a constant source of irritation. It boiled down to the fact that Acer use a slightly offset acpi setup, and to use it a custom kernel is needed or atleast the relevant portion patched. And I dont want to do that, nor should anyone looking for a user experience. Wonder what the state of play with that is on Acer these days. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Cyber cafe management software
On 10/09/2009 07:08 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: Suggestions welcome. based on your list, looks like an admin interface to squid might be all thats needed. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] I want to buy a laptop
On 10/13/2009 01:21 PM, narendra sisodiya wrote: The only problem I faced is incorrect brightness applet - we cannot set brightness , I used it for just 7 days and I lost afterthat. erm, ok - but does Suspend to ram work ? - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/24/2009 08:48 PM, Nalin Savara wrote: You the one that lives in England and blindly criticizes everything in India... right ? I am based in the UK - but no I dont criticize everything in India. Instead of cursing the darkness, why not light a lamp-- why dont you take the initiative and help the guys at BOSS who may not be as knowledgeable as yourself ? That is what the initial aim was, when I heard there was someone doing this level of work in India my first take on it was that I'd like to jump in and help since Distribution engineering is what I do for about 80% of my open source work, and even if I might say so - we do a fairly good job of it. However, every effort to get in touch with the BOSS linux guys and getting any form of input either on the upstream or downstream seems get zero response. I completely fail to understand what the aim here is - they seem mostly either incompetient or with marching on a hidden agenda. Solving both those issues is easy : open up and allow for a community to build around the distro. In terms of gains from such a community, there is no doubt that it helps the people who want to use it, people who want to contribute to it and people who are keen on helping spread the word and the code around. Surely all of these should be goals the Boss linux people should aspire to ? Does the fact that it comes from and is sourced from tax money make it even more of a goal for a project like this to reach back into the 'donors' a bit more openly ? Going out of their way, as they are now, to make sure that there is zero momentum around their distro, no community is allowed to come up and there is no contribution welcome from anyone only means that they are working on an agenda, or have incompetent advisors / mentors. Its hard for me to fathom why they would not go out of their way to tap into the massive, massive talent pool that exists around the open source users in India. ( the rest of your email was just delusional banter, perhaps you like standing in front of a mirror and hearing yourself pour out crap ) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
Hi, Firstly, I dont think you understand Open Source as a whole, and Linux in specific. On 08/25/2009 11:55 AM, Nalin Savara wrote: I had been exposed to more specific overtures of Microsoft to policy makers etc-- and that scares me and pushes me to contribute and/or actually encourage people who are contributing to FOSS in india. Open Source has nothing to do with Microsoft. eg. There are many many open source projects that only aim to target usability on the MS platforms. Apple / Sun / IBM / Cisco etc are all in the same boat. Open source does not, as an idea, target any commercial product vendor. The main aim is about choice and the existence of that choice, even when working with closed vendor solutions. To give you a more specific example, since you seem very new to the whole world of open source, is the whole noise around Microsoft Word. Noone has any problems with MS-Word and what its capable of and what it looks like or what it does. None is asking for it to be 'open sourced'. However, the file formats used by Word tend to be focused around locking a user into the Word 'platform' and also create 'peer pressure' on everyone to also buy into this. The open source movement wants that to be taken away - the filefdormats, data exchange formats, should be an open specification so as to let the user decide on whats a better solution for their roles. And if MSWord is what they need, nothing stops them from going out and buying it. Lets not forget, its still a free world and most people are generally allowed to make choices that work for them. Another example that might help clear this up for you is the cifs/smb suite. Think about it. I have no agenda, and I know most people here on the list as well as people involved with open source, dont target a company for what it is, as long as there is no abuse of their position to impact the choice users might have. And in many cases, you will find fullstack vendors like Sun, actually shipping Linux and BSD containers in Solaris ( anyone remember Solaris Brandz ? ) (1) My mail was based on my own career and product development experience-- but your comments were neither about your career nor your products nor about people you know anything about. Which is why most of your email was just wasted noise. that products always take longer than expected to develop--- and if one starts looking at weaknesses/non-compliances/faults too early--- the development may never reach critical speed OR critical mass-- and may drag on forever. you might want to look up how this process works in the open source world. Also, version control is fairly competent these days and working on branches isnt as hard or as alien as it used to be in the dark ages. It is a well studied phenomena among product develop professionals in various fields called-- that if you dont have any prototype OR feature complete product early (no matter how buggy)--- then chances are it is going to take a order of magnitude more time to converge upon a stable and usable final shippable product. Do you even know what BOSS is and what they are doing ? you seem to be working it a an upstream of debian. What they do is essentially a few people doing very few package development, and building a distro ( which is usually just running a script, a script they didnt write ) (3) No offense or insult was intended-- but yes, as I later wrote in a unicast mail to Karan-- microsoft has unlimited millions of dollars to lobby policy makers-- If your single agenda is to attack Microsoft - you have the wrong forum, look elsewhere. Perhaps the Apple communities, they seem to be giving MS a few nightmares of late. ps: yes, and in working on a Open Source project to adapt GNU GCC toolchain What project is that then ? and whats your contribution there ? I seriously hope for the well being of the project you have no decision making role to play. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/26/2009 11:38 AM, Anupam Jain wrote: I am not familiar with the Boss Linux team but over the past 2-3 years I've had run-ins with other Govt. agencies building Linux distributions (yes there are others and their functioning is obscure by design.). But you would not see my chest swell up with pride, for these may technically be open source projects but the spirit is proprietary and the hidden agenda behind any such govt. effort is pretty clear This is one reason why I am a big proponent of doing this sort of work, when using public money, under the aegis of an Academic Institution. The dynamics change quite dramatically :) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/26/2009 10:58 PM, Nalin Savara wrote: This is a proprietary compiler based on gcc-- which compiles to generate code targetted at a MIPS microprocessor used in a consumer electronics device. ... Karan, if we cannot agree-- then let us agree to disagree-- as gentlemen. I dont haveto agree with you on anything, what you were saying in your emails is essentially FUD. I've only tried to point that out to you in slightly clearer terms. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/22/2009 08:05 PM, Sanjay Arora wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org wrote: correct me if i am wrong, but that work might not even be GPL licensed That's my question Karan.if they use GPL software to build a redistributable linux, don't they have to share its code...simply because they made modifications to GPL code and redistributed it? Isn't that the nature of the GPL licence? IANAL, but if the code is GPL licensed, then they would need to make the source available to anyone who also has access to the binaries. This includes the build scripts, makefiles and toolchain used in the conversion from source to binary format. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Antivirus and Antispyware for Linux?
On 08/23/2009 06:28 AM, Sudev Barar wrote: My company is on 99.9% Wind--s. They have one or 2 Linux box and wants me to put Antivirus and Antispyware on it. They know Linux does not need them but still want these softwares to be there. wont selinux meet the requirements for an anti-spyware ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Antivirus and Antispyware for Linux?
On 08/24/2009 05:33 PM, Yashpal Nagar wrote: So more precisely selinux is developed to enhance the Linux system security beyond the trival system access controls granted in the form of file permissions, privileges etc Yes and that is why Selinux will let you enforce userland app access levels and context ( which is what the primary aim is to start with ). On the other hand a spyware is nothing but a software which is presumably written outside kernel space and meant to be used for fishing the information, to move/copy the information from one place to another. A spyware can exploit any software system/app and used that as a tool to hack the system information. A spyware is not necessarily to be used as a means of enhancing the system security of a Windoz box like in the case of selinux. this is exactly the sort of thing that selinux helps with, disallowing apps from outside a specific context access to information that they should not get. Eg. its not hard getting setup in a way that even plugins within firefox are uable to access things that firefox itself is able to. Most people tend to shy away from selinux due to the, false, sense of assumed complexity. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/22/2009 05:57 AM, Vikram Vincent wrote: 'where ever possible' means that if upstream feels that the translations are useful enough to integrate they will else they will not. I dont see how this would impact the licensing of the matter covered ? There was a discussion of this on the Indic mailing list a while ago. Will look there as well. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/21/2009 04:44 AM, Vikram Vincent wrote: I've not looked in a few months, but the last time I did - it was incomplete. Where ever possible efforts are on to integrate with upstream. I dont understand what this means. 'where ever possible'. Can you share some info on when / where its not possible to share sources ? I can quite understand there might be licensing issues, however what are the components that are covered by these prohibitive licenses, and why are they in that state ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] FOSS Jobs in India - Mailing list
On 08/20/2009 06:33 AM, narendra sisodiya wrote: Here is a mailing list for FOSS jobs in India. I request all Foss communities of India to redirect their [Commercial] tagged message to this mailing list. While this might be ideal, it almost never gets traction. The problem is that most people want to advertise in places that are well read - and its never easy to see what circulation for the jobs-announce lists is or likely to be. eg. looking for linux/jobs/india amongst the lists, its the lug lists right on top. I dont even see any mention of the foss-jobs list. Tried on 4 search engines with the same result. Solving the visibility problem might be a good place to kick things off from. Even if its a case of someone taking it on personally to forward commercial postings of this nature to the foss-jobs list, and making a bit of noise about it on the lug lists and other visible places on the internet. Hope it will be central place to make job or project announcement *http://groups.google.com/group/foss-jobs-in-india* I hate google groups. Mostly since i dont want to give them my google account details, and their listserv no longer accepts subscribe requests over email. /imho -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/20/2009 07:41 AM, Nishant Sharma wrote: I appreciate the move by CDAC and NRCFOSS to make government officials aware of FOSS and BOSS. Would be even nicer if it really was open source :) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] FOSS Jobs in India - Mailing list
On 08/20/2009 10:51 AM, narendra sisodiya wrote: and their listserv no longer accepts subscribe requests over email. I do not think so !! does not work for me anymore, stopped working a few months back - they now pretty much insist on a google account for signups in the .EU and .US -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/20/2009 12:57 PM, Sanjay Arora wrote: Doesn't it have to be open source ? Isn't that the nature of the beast? GPL license in this case? Could you please point out where they post the source tree's and the build scripts ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] NRCFOSS CDAC BOSS Linux Workshop
On 08/20/2009 02:18 PM, Nishant Sharma wrote: URL http://bosslinux.in/downloads contains links for source of all the releases. I've not looked in a few months, but the last time I did - it was incomplete. only the debian / upstream sources from other repo's was added in. Special interest was in the indic language specific work they are doing and there were no sources published for any of them correct me if i am wrong, but that work might not even be GPL licensed. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] linux.in status
On 08/17/2009 05:59 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: How about we restart with linux-india.org (I can put up a wordpress or a drupal there) and see, over a period of 6 months or so, whether the community is actually capable of maintaining it or not? If we are, we can start moving the process to retrieve linux.in too. Sounds like a good idea. If anything is needed infrastructure wise, I could help. Beyond that, I think it might be worthwhile putting down some points as to what the target should / could be. There are a few people offering to help with content as well, if there is some direction we could have people take over responsibility for different things. One thing that I would love to see is a newsletter or a summary of 'stuff' linux related, perhaps done monthly. Another would be a directory of regional resources that new linux users could be pointed at. Perhaps a 'blog' like resource that allows people to post articles into, and a wiki would be good ( for things like howto get online with the various isps' in the country, configs and other tips etc ). Even if we can get 10 - 12 people, contributing an hour or so per week, there is much that can be done :) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] linux.in status
hi, the present linux.in is parked with an obvious mass registration parking service. going by the registry.in INDRP, it should be possible to speak with them and under their section 4.ii be able to request transfer away from the present owner to something / somewhere more apt. Firstly, is there any interest in pursuing this ? I can see there is value in having linux.in be relevant. On the other hand, what would be a good 'holding' outfit, a foundation perhaps, for this domain ? Secondly, has anyone ever gone through the INDRP and have any experiences to share about this ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] dedicated server - opteron or Core2quad
On 06/03/2009 04:12 AM, Alok G. Singh wrote: however for this sort of a workload, the opterons at the same specification level as the Core2 would be a better performing setup. Even the newest Xeons ? I thought differently. Would you have any benchmarks to share ? Some of the new i7 kit from Intel is indeed where the 'action' is at these days - but if you look at the specifications and price points for those, its cheaper to build a larger AMD based setup to get better performance per $costfactor. However, the sort of machine that Abhishek is looking at isnt quite a i7 box, is it ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] dedicated server - opteron or Core2quad
On 06/01/2009 06:43 AM, abhishek jain wrote: I dont plan to implement virtualization for now, but will plan that for later, i want it to be a mainly database server with heavy mysql queries and then a web server also on it, As Arun already pointed out, both are viable platforms - however for this sort of a workload, the opterons at the same specification level as the Core2 would be a better performing setup. Although, for an oltp setup, you might also want to check and investigate what sort of i/o subsys and what ram you are going to get. Depending on your load type, a good i/o and ram setup could far outweight cpu wins. Not that Cpu isnt important, its just that the cpu isnt the only thing thats important. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [fosscom] NCERT Operating System
On 05/28/2009 02:20 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: We can also distribute the copies of the installable version of this desktop to the participants for them to go back and familiarize themselves with this easy to use, robust and interactive learning medium. Where might one find more info about this online ? I'm specially keen on a 'download link'. This sounds like a fantastic effort! -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] beat way to install Apache + Tomcat + JBoss?
On 05/21/2009 09:33 AM, Nalin Savara wrote: Yes indeed--- no harm trying using the RPM first-- go ahead and give it a shot. If it works ; it works. As a general rule, you should almost never waste your time doing source installs unless you have nothing better to do - or there is a direct trust issue with the binary source (1) I am not sure what distro is being used here, but there are millions of people who use this sort of a stack on CentOS and the packaged RPMS work fine for most - look at jpackage.org for a place to start with most Java related things ( although httpd and tomcat are already included in the distro and work out of the box - total install time is about 3 minutes ) Just my 2 bits - KB (1): there is also the thing about people doing code audits for some components - but given that almost noone ever does that, its a corner case generally ignored. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] beat way to install Apache + Tomcat + JBoss?
On 05/21/2009 01:29 PM, ranjeet singh wrote: first i have to do it on fedora 10 and then on opensuse. You should be able to get everything in rpm form for fedora10, including jboss. isnt it a part of the base repo's ? I have no idea about suse. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Need some idea on monitoring softwares
Amritendu Das wrote: nagios is one of the best monitoring tool. its also a near total waste of time. If you need to manage those machine machines - 2k and spread across such a diverse install base, your best bet would be to start with something like opennms and then fan out from there to fix issues. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Need some idea on monitoring softwares
Smruti wrote: nagios is one of the best monitoring tool. Heard the same too. But I want to know how does it compared to HP OpenView, BMC PM(formerly Patrol), Big Brother and Zabbix. Nagios used to be a good way to do things, a few years back it was also recommended quite widely. But to be honest unless you have lots and lots of time and dont mind getting into messy issues and handling all sorts of corner issues that just keep creeping into the systems including 'internet weather', your best options these days are to look at projects like opennms and zenoss. Zabbix has some traction as well, but its just not anywhere near opennms while addressing the same sort of mindset / admin crowd. Also, two very solid tools to consider these days : http://flapjack-project.com/ and the long time large-installation favourite http://ganglia.info/ Hope this helps, and I also hope this saves you many hours of slaving with nagios in frustration :) - KB Note: I have setup and run quite a few monitoring setups, including a nagios one that handles 18 different DC's and 400 odd devices. So its not that I dont 'get' nagios. I do. Which is why I think its a waste of space for new installs these days. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GSoC 2009
Pratul Kalia wrote: We have 101 students this time from India. Hopefully, we'll have a full list in a couple of days. What ? only 5 people made it ? :) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM MAILING LIST
INDER BAGGA wrote: please, UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM MAILING LIST no. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] apple airport express on ubuntu with foss apps?
Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, anybody has any experience in running apple's airport express under ubuntu or any other flavour? http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/ I might be missing something but isnt that just a wireless AP ? why would you need an OS take on that ? - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project
hi Gaurav, Gaurav Mishra wrote: have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that person reasonable amount of time to respond ? What's the reasonable amount of time ?, 2 months is a good one IMO yeah, I would agree that 2 months is plenty. Specially since, as you say, the person has been active in this timeframe on the same forums and lists where you posted the query. I guess report a reminder and in there say something to the effect of : I'd like to push my changes out, would you prefer a patch or should I setup a parallel tree / build and you can pull from there if you like. If he/she does not come back with anything, setting up a parallel SCM repository and open up to community feedback / builds etc would be one way to go. That way you dont really fork the project, just make it more community friendly. Do you intend to keep the same name for the codebase / project ? That might involve more of a dialog with the original author. The project doesn't have a devel mailing list or a sorceforge/github kinda account and even a published svn. No collabration at all. Perhaps that would be the first thing to target then :) Well the last release is 6 months old (Which is fine), He is still replying to forums where i have posted the question of helping in development of project. Hope he responds. You also have the option of pushing patched builds right now... you dont really need to wait for a response indefinitely. My question is more on what are the stuff that a person should take care while forking a project !, The way i want to take this project may be completely different from what he is planning (and this is fine , because this is my need) , What should a person do so that he/she can get proper valuation for the previous work he/she has done.? Make sure you dont antagonise the person - to some level the person will feel it, but thats ok. Make sure you clearly state why you are doing what you are doing ( eg: you wanted certain functionality that isnt in the othe code base, and there is little or no interest from $originalAuthor to incorporate ), and try to stay community friendly. If you come down to the level of where 'you' want the project to go Vs where 'he' wanted the project to go - you are not improving the situation any. Build a timeline and milestone projections -then let people contribute whatever they might want. In terms of valuation - given them the right credits they deserve. btw what project is this ? - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Forking a GPlv2 project
Gaurav Mishra wrote: Recently i found a dead project that met my needs in a exact way !, After using it for few weeks and making a lot of changes and bug fixes , I requested the mod to incorporate, communicate or atleast say hi to me , so that i can know how he is planning to take on the project. But it looked like he was very busy to get bothered. have you actually made contact with that person ? have you given that person reasonable amount of time to respond ? did you use the 'accepted' mechanism of communication for that project ? remember most people do *not* want person email about project -devel stuff if there is a -devel related mailing list. While most people will be ok with it - quite a few are not, and thats a very fair situation to be in. There is also a good chance that the person has moved on in life and isnt really maintaining that project anymore - in which case they might be very happy to move the code and the project to you and let you carry on managing it. There are quite a few projects out there that have this sort of a 'moving from person to person' situation, eg the mutt folder view patchset project, and even tinyproxy. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [X-Post] Freenode is looking for donations
Parthan SR wrote: I'm taking off the other hats I wear for a moment to ask for you or your company's support of Freenode [1] (technically the Peer-Directed Projects Center or PDPC) now based in the United Kingdom. I've considered donating to the Freenode project for years now - but one thing that always sticks out a bit is why. All the servers for their network are hosted in gratis locations, managed at the systems level by people who work in these networks eg. osuosl beyond a network, freenode needs to do 'nothing' and within that it needs to pay for 'nothing'. The blog post you url'd about donations again seems to fall short on what the money will be used for apart for making a mention of 'supporting the cause' and a '£5k/yr is needed to be a charity'. I dont really feel like dropping my money into a box so that freenode can exist as a charity. I'd be happy to pay for the $10/yr ( or whatever it is ) that is needed to pay for the freenode.net domain though. also, I wonder what the feeling these days is about such mass crossposting on the ethical front... -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Wireless on Dell Inspiron 15 (CentOS 5.2)
gurteshwar singh wrote: Hi, I am trying to configure wireless on a Dell Inspiron 15 notebook. I am using CentOS 5.2. The output of lspci tells me that my wireless card is 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller (rev 01). The only way to get this up seems using ndiswrapper. Is there any other way? the bcm43xx driver is included in the centos-5 kernels. However, its flaky at best. The b43 driver might make it into 5.4, with the entire wifi stuff getting a rebase then. In the mean time, ndiswrapper is the only way to have it work properly. even when the bcm43xx does work, its rarely ever at speeds 11M. Please suggest any addon wireless cards (usb/other) which will run in rfmon and will be supported(not necessarily out of the box) by CentOS 5.2 and be easily available in the market, the cheaper the better :-) the intel wifi interfaces tend to work quite well normally. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] IBM: I Believe in Mornings with the Sun
Linux Lingam wrote: the web is suddenly ablaze with IBM's talks for acquiring Sun. no one seems to be talking about the impact on openoffice.org, odf, and sun's newer push into extending java further, especially with stuff like javafx. I fail to see your point, considering IBM does way more for the linux specific opensource ecosystem than Sun would ever be able to or inclined to. ( typing this from my sun blade 2500, using a sun developed protocol for remote desktop's - working on solaris 10. ouch. ) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] pre-loaded with Linux h/w Vendor in Delhi
hi, Is there anyone in the Delhi area who builds / sells desktop machines and perhaps the odd laptop pre-configured with Linux ? CentOS would be ideal since then it wont need to be reloaded / major upgrades till the user is ready, but in a pinch Mandriva / Ubuntu would work too. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft develops open-source content-management system
Gaurav Mishra wrote: Great... Ohh.. Wait. It's on asp.net, So that means if i need to deploy it commercially , I need a .Net licence.(or correct me if i am wrong, I hardly updated myself on this matter) what is the state of mono-project these days ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] google selling unlocked android G1 in india
Pratul Kalia wrote: Damn, its too expensive. ($400 for phone, $25 for Android Market subscription) Damn, its on Java. Damn, I can get a Freerunner for that money :-P The one big difference in the two ( G1 and the Freerunner ) is that there are more than 5 people using the G1 ! -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kernel or Seagate Issue?
Pratul Kalia wrote: Ah yes, in my case, smartctl did show failed when I ran the test. That's the reason I got the HDD replaced. Some manufacturers ( and in some case Vendors for all manufacturers ) insist you run their own diagnostic tools and give them the report from their own tool before they will RMA the drive, and this software mostly only works for windows machines :/ Samsung are infamous for this. Seagate is a hit and miss situation. They dont ( seagate ) need this themselves, but some of their vendors do and the first 1 year of their 5 year warranty is executed by the vendor, not Seagate! -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kernel or Seagate Issue?
Mani A wrote: (I believe this is due to the drive warming up and self-test being enabled). Will check it after it cools down :) Smartctl reports drive temp if its working properly, also running the drive of the seagate specific max for that model would invalidate your warranty, and if you are running within that temp and still the issue is definitely temp related - the drive is broken, rma it. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kernel or Seagate Issue?
Mani A wrote: Is the latest kernel OK on this? Or is it a firmware problem? ... esp as it is apparently a cross-platform problem? A bit more info on the hardware you have, the setup you run, smartctl status etc would go a long way in even starting to look at this issue. - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Linux Lingam wrote: am through with the 'anti-ms' emotion long ago. don't care about them anymore. am only interested in 100% linux hardware compatibility on my gear. thus, looking for a high-end laptop that comes pre-installed with gnu/linux with all the bits at 100% compatibility. i am currently not aware of the level of compatibility with 3d graphics-card (ati/nvidia) and sound-cards or usb-based sound-devices. Take a look at http://www.emperorlinux.com/ - their Gazelle series come with an ATI X1600 and seems to work out of the box ( again, not sure how shipping / support into India will work though! ) w.r.t USB sound, would the creative extigy hit 'acceptable' quality ? there seem to be a couple of projects that claim 100% functionality for the exaudio on linux. Most skype branded usb handsets come up as usb-audio devices, so its reasonable to assume that atleast some form of usb-audio does work :D yes, i know linux has been ruling the roost in hollywood animation and the film-industry since several years, but with proprietary packaged software, and especially with custom-code that never sees the light of day outside the studios. hence the key operative word 'foss-based' above. Actually, yes that is true. The people I know, in that line of business are the people I've seen and worked with, which are FilmLight, Hammerhead and Canon. None of these guys specialise in Audio, but all have audio capability strapped onto their main product - Video. btw, hammerhead do a lot of their work with open source stuff as well, its not all prop! -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Chirag Anand wrote: What will happen to my warranty if in case i buy extra memory/space/battery from external vendors? you should speak with your Vendor about that before you buy it. The HP reseller I got my laptop from didnt have any problems, so the 3 yr warranty stayed in place, even though I got the laptop with 512MB of ram and then bumped it to 2 GB the next day ( bought the extra ram off www.crucial.com/uk ). Does Dell not do the windows refund though ? If Dell gives the refund, i can definitely look forward to buying it. Many of my friends are quite happy with Dell. No problem in 2yrs...and they are providing quite a good configuration at this price. Sounds like something you should follow up then. Are fujitsu laptops specifically for industry/professional use? Being a student, should i consider it? In India the first thing you should really look at is - how much service and support can you get, and if the vendor would be happy for you to run linux on it, and still support you. Then workout how well the laptops are built and how long the warranty is going to be. Then speak to everyone you know how has a laptop and has had one for a few months - then decide on what the best course of action might be! HTH -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Chirag Anand wrote: Just saw the crucial website, the prices are more than what we get in nehru place in delhi. And they dont have India in their shipping countires list?? thats ok, since I am in the UK and they ship to the UK :D Then workout how well the laptops are built and how long the warranty is going to be. Built?? as in? for linux environment or not? built as in - are they all plastic that will fall apart in a few months, or is it fairly reliable construction that can take a few knocks and still be working. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Linux Lingam wrote: wow! karanbir, that's an eye-opener. i was not aware of sager-ratna or clevo. googled this: http://www.xoticpc.com/index.php why not get in touch with sagernotebook.com and ask them directly if they are aware of anyone selling their kit in India ? pretty neat. a desktop-workstation really, that you could lug around with 30-minutes of backup and a shoulder-ache. since we would normally need to carry that, and another 2 laptops with power supplies and other stuff, we just used something like this : http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2101_2105products_id=16966 have discovered a few of these monsters, but none obviously with linux pre-installed. do you want linux preinstalled for hardware compatibility check or to not pay the MS tax ? in case its the latter, you might be able to get a refund, or just not pay for it upfront. Vendor dependant. to get a laptop that handles extreme crunching of pixels, stores bucketloads of them, speed-demons through multi-track live recording, and all this using, say, ubuntustudio, would be thrilling. humm... perhaps. But most people find it more convenient to have a 'parked' crunching setup, and only use the laptop as a front end. Since traditional hardware formats are much more 'upgrade' friendly and always a couple of steps ahead of the laptop curve ( eg, 4 GB ram in a desktop machine, with 4 cores is now 'baseline', where as baseline laptops are nowhere near ), it means longer life and higher return on investment with that. Besides, its hard to go anywhere and not have network access from a portable device one of the most common problems with most commodity hardware is with digitizing audio. the internal circuitry may generate 'noise' as people don't really care about shielding and isolation. getting 3d graphics cards to natively work a 100% with full-functionality under linux is another unix|pipe dream. I might have agreed with you on this a few years back, but given that most large scale studios are now either completely linux based, or moving to be linux based - I'd think atleast someone has solved these issues. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Linux Lingam wrote: everyone focusses on 'cheap' or 'low-cost' linux laptops, especially netbooks. what i'm looking for is the opposite: the top-most, high-end laptop in the market, that ships with gnu/linux pre-installed, plenty of people sell the sager/clevo variety preloaded with Linux, depending on where you are based you might even find someone local who has something in stock. about 3 years back, I had a dual cpu ( not dual core, but real dual cpu )- with 4 GB of ram and 2 sata hdd's in a raid-0 laptop. Considering battery life was about 30 min, and weight was about 5.2Kg's, I moved to a dualcore laptop with not that much brawn, but enough to get most things done. The other place you can look at are the gaming laptop rigs, typically in the 2.4 to 2.8L price bracket. 8GB ram with dedicated 1GB display ram etc are known to exist But then again, 'high-end' is debatable. Do you mean lots of resources ( as I might assume ) - or do you mean something with a diamond eddged'd gold ribbed thing that come with a brand name ? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Exposing Internal Web Server to Public Network
Anand Shankar wrote: The proposed scenario is that on a Web server hosted on DMZ, we have hyperlinks. If the user out on the internet clicks on these hyperlinks, the application/ webpages hosted on an internal web server (192.168.*.*) are presented to the end user. There are quite a few ways of doing this sort of a thing, one which I might try first is using a proxy for the whole site.( nginx would be the first candidate for that ). Setup a proxy around the whole website that runs on port 80 of the DMZ machine ( lets call it A ), and then run httpd services on A:8090, have ngingx from A:80 proxy everything through to A:8089. if A has connectivity to the .lan machine ( lets call it B.lan ), then you could have nginx do url matching for specific patterns, and when those patterns are seen, proxy the request back to B.lan:8090 [1] If A does not have direct access to B.lan you can either use openvpn to setup a tunnel or use ssh as a transport ( check out ssh's -L option ) to export the B.lan:8090 port over to A:8091, and config nginx accordingly. Is this the sort of thing you had in mind ? - KB [1]: Best practicies, run all production services on the same port, when run behing a proxy. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
