Re: upgrade from tiger to???
On 01/02/2012, at 5:54 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less useful to an average user. And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work. -Jonas G'day Kelly As I see it, you need three things. 1. a backup system 2. More memory 3. An updated OS, with perian, flip4mac, latest Flash driver. Addressing 1. If you can afford it, I would buy one of these… http://www.newertech.com/products/ministack.php Unfortunately the older model seems to have been discontinued, and the new one not yet released. The benefit of them is they are quietly fan cooled (heating can cause a problem in many external cases, as I've found to my detriment), and they automatically turn on and off when your Mac does. Use the Firewire 400 connection. If you shop around you might get an older case, preferably fit it with at least a hard disk as large as your iMac drive, or larger. If you want to upgrade to Lion in the future, and use Time Machine instead of CCC, you should get a drive at least one and a half times larger. Use the free Carbon Copy Cloner, http://www.bombich.com/download.html to back up as frequently as you like. I suggest daily. Personally I've got three ministacks, with TimeMachine hourly backup, and CCC daily and weekly backup. Don't use Western Digital hard drives in the cases; I suggest Seagate or Samsung. Addressing 2. Looks like you'll have to take out at least one of the 512MB sticks, and preferably replace it with a 2 GB stick. I'm in Oz, but I buy my ram from OWC in the States. Addressing 3. You can still buy Snow Leopard from Apple, http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A and provided you've got a fast enough internet link, update to Lion electronically. Do this after you've backed up your old system. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade from tiger to???
On 01/02/2012, at 5:54 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less useful to an average user. And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work. -Jonas Kelly, this might help you understand about the memory limitations of your iMac. Whilst it can accept up to 4GB ram, the recommended amount is 3 GB, and you could simply pull one 512MB stick and insert a 2GB module for 2 1/2 GB http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/faq_cd/imac-intel-how-to-upgrade-memory.html Regards Santa -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade from tiger to???
How would I go about update to Leopard and how would I upgrade the ram to at least 2GB, and how do I get 10.7 Lion? Thank you for your time. -Kelly If you always do, what you have always done, you don't get to complain about the results you always get. Change is the 'wings' you give yourself. From: Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: Re: upgrade from tiger to??? I would be willing to bet that the problem is viewing video on the web. Thats because Tiger is too old now, and doesn't support the latest Flash Player. You could safely update to Leopard without upgrading the ram, but you would soon need to upgrade that as well, because Leopard is on it's way out. I would definitely upgrade the ram to at least 2GB, and update the OS to the newest, 10.7 Lion. You've got a great computer there, just an old OS. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
I'm there and here, fingers crossed, waiting... Doug On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2012/01/31 09:20, D. Fabel so eloquently wrote: Try the LEM Swap list. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Another Tiger/upgrade question -- on dual core something'
On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:31 AM, MJH Raichyk wrote: CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 450 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 896 MB This is what my profiler says and I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 so how do I plan my moves, like the iMac as well, this has always seemed confusing with that 'dual core' idea. Does that dual stuff double my speed maybe, and/or mean my ram is really double. I was just happy with my system as is, then this 'word' went around that now even my 10 was going to be history. Took a while to transition to the 10 from the 9 etc. I do mostly research for simulations (math or logic models) and writing reports, and now so many articles are pointing to youtube (which before was not appealing), but now those now sometimes are universally user friendly... cancel anything with much Flash. Hope this is adequate to figure out the dual, upgrade scheme for this machine. Ok, there's a few confusing terms going around. The Core 2 Duo and Core Duo systems being talked about here are Intel CPU's with two processing cores on the same silicon die, it's one cpu inthat it is one chip; but it acts like dual CPU systems because there are two (or more in later iterations of this cpu design). Your mac has two separate G4 CPU chips on the processor card. Neither will 'double your speed'. What DOES happen is that computing tasks that can be split among two processors will be done in (0.5 + overhead)*the time it would take a single processor of the same speed. That 'overhead coefficient is wildly variable and depends on the OS and CPU's involved. The Core Duo and Core 2 Duo (and later iterations like the i5 and i7) multi-core cpu designs have a much tighter hardware coupling to this behavior, and so your speed is closer to 1/n * core # speed, or even better. This, for example, is the equivalent info from my system (which just over a year old, it was made in October 2010 enter your serial number here http://www.chipmunk.nl/cgi-fast/applemodel.cgi to find out when yours was made): Model Name: iMac Model Identifier: iMac11,3 Processor Name: Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2.93 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores:4 L2 Cache (per core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 8 MB Memory: 8 GB I've got the Core i7 4-core system. Due to the design of the iN series of processors, each core can run two processes (called threads) in parallel, so my system is behaving as if it has 8 CPU's. Aside from splitting computationally intensive tasks for true parallel processing, multiple cpu or multi-core systems also offer the ability to simply do more things at once: Word could be running on one CPU and Firefox on the other, which will speed up overall performance. What this means in practice is: If your process is heavily CPU bound (things like rendering video, rendering 3D images, encoding music, anything involving lots and lots of sequential calculations) you will approach (but never reach) a true 2x speedup. If your OS is properly written (and starting with 10.4 OS X was) many things in the OS will take advantage of the multi-core abilities to do more than one thing at a time, giving you a performance boot in everyday use. The CPU manufacturers have tacitly ended the 'gigahertz' wars because they're not getting the leaps in cpu speed that they used to do; increases of CPU speed in modern electronics means that they're runne=ing headlong into quantum and other effects that only happen in very small distances and at very high frequencies. So they've gone the same route used for increasing processing power since the early 80's: packing more than one CPU into the box...in this case packing more into the CPU package. Hence the multicore series of processors noe current in all the major CPU platforms. Even the iPhone now has a dual-core cpu. The improvement gained by using multiple CPUs has been overshadowed in recent years by the increasing use of the extremely powerful and fast processors in video cards to offload some of the CPU load onto the GPU (Graphics processing unit). These chips have a much more limited number of things they do (they make bad general CPU's for this reason) but some things they do very very well; things that can be heavily parallelized work amazingly well on modern GPU's which may have the equivalent of 32, 64 or even 128 'processors') When an os can offload computationally-intensive tasks onto the GPU the performance gains can be on the order of a couple magnitudes different. OS X, starting with 10.5 (and the Core series of API's, Core Video, Core Graphics, etc) makes use of this tactic, so it's really not a 2 CPU == 2x 1CPU calculation anymore. Dragging it back to YOUR case, the best upgrade you could get would be to an Intel-based Mac, provided you're not limited to PPC-only code. A modern iMac or Mac Mini, even the lowest-end
Re: Another Tiger/upgrade question -- on dual core something'
On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:31 AM, MJH Raichyk wrote: CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed:450 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 896 MB This is what my profiler says and I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 so how do I plan my moves, like the iMac as well, this has always seemed confusing with that 'dual core' idea. Does that dual stuff double my speed maybe, and/or mean my ram is really double. I was just happy with my system as is, then this 'word' went around that now even my 10 was going to be history. Took a while to transition to the 10 from the 9 etc. I do mostly research for simulations (math or logic models) and writing reports, and now so many articles are pointing to youtube (which before was not appealing), but now those now sometimes are universally user friendly... cancel anything with much Flash. Hope this is adequate to figure out the dual, upgrade scheme for this machine. ttyl mj raichyk That machine is best to stay with Tiger it's way too slow to run Leopard or play Youtube and to upgrade it would be a waste of money compared to the cost of a used Intel iMac even a fast PPC Mac has a hard time playing Youtube smoothly. My fastest PPC is a G5 Dual 2.7 and youtube is just barley watchable IMHO. If you use OS9 then you have to stay with a PPC with Tiger to run it in Classic mode If you boot OS9 then the fastest machine is a G4 MDD dual 1.25 F/W 400 model. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Another Tiger/upgrade question -- on dual core something'
On 2012/02/01 12:42, Christopher Satterfield so eloquently wrote: The G4 won't run too well with flash, but using TenFourFox and the Youtube HTML5 player it might not be so bad. I use a G5 2.0 DP with TenFourFox and Youtube HTML5 and it runs fairly well. Good point. I don't have Flash installed in my Mac Pro, instead I use Chromium for when I need Flash compatibility. Lately though I've been needing Chromium less and less for YouTube, about 80% of them play without Flash. Good riddance to bad code. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: My imac model, and location as requested
Kelly, You're getting some good info from the list here, but if you're finding you really need some on site help, let me know. I live up in Portland. It would be an easy drive down to assist and an excuse to visit a friend down by Marcola (NE or Eugene). Doug On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:54 AM, madamekelly wrote: I live in Lebanon, OR about 85 miles from Portland, OR. My imac is a 20 inch imac, (MA590LL) Tiger os 10.4 with 2.16GHz intel core 2 duo 1gb(2x512mb)667mhz ddr2 sdram (pc2)-5300), supports up to 3gb If you have more questions just ask. -Kelly -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade from tiger to???
I would be willing to bet that the problem is viewing video on the web. Thats because Tiger is too old now, and doesn't support the latest Flash Player. You could safely update to Leopard without upgrading the ram, but you would soon need to upgrade that as well, because Leopard is on it's way out. I would definitely upgrade the ram to at least 2GB, and update the OS to the newest, 10.7 Lion. You've got a great computer there, just an old OS. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade from tiger to???
You're right John, what I meant was that Leopard is becoming less and less useful to an average user. And yes, I completely forgot about Snow Leopard, that would also work. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Question
On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Bill Brown wrote: Greetings Group. Have a question or two for you gurus: Basics: iMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM. Question: I read somewhere on one of these groups that the Macs perform some type of automatic system routine early in the morning, like around 3 AM. Can someone enlighten me as to where I can find info regarding these late-nite routines? I usually shut down my computers at bed time, and would like to know if I'm harming or preventing the routines from running. Anyone know of this? Also, which Macs do this? I have the above iMac, a Mac Mini, and a Blueberry 350 MHz iMac. You're thinking of the nightly, weekly and monthly maintenance scripts, which do things like rotate logs, clear some caches, etc. Missing these scripts could eventually (over a very long time, years in some cases) cause slowdowns or even in extreme cases crashes (by running out of disk space, never a good thing for a unix system) because the system logs (in particular THE syslog) could become very large and unwieldy..I once saw a syslog that was 2.4 gigs in size. (a combination of something writing a ton of errors to the log, and the system being shut down every night, all for a couple months before someone asked me about this system that was mysteriously sluggish and unresponsive.) Here an old explanation of these scripts: http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintscripts.html Since the advent of OS X using launchd instead of xinetd in 10.4, however, the scripts will run the next time the system is turned on if you miss 'em. So 10.2 or 10.3 systems will benefit from using Onyx or Cocktail on a regular basis, 10.4 and later don't need these utilities. Onyx offers a bunch of other useful utility functions so it's a good thing to have around. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Needed - Head phone jack for iMac G3 slot loader
On 2012/01/31 09:20, D. Fabel so eloquently wrote: I'm in need of the little headphone jack board installed inside the iMac G3 (slot loader). It is the board on the front of the iMac into which the headphones plug. It is connected to the computer via an 8 pin connector. Looks exactly like the one in this link: http://www.welovemacs.com/8201123ar.html Does anyone have one to spare? Try the LEM Swap list. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 Black Screen...
On Jan 27, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Jean-Claude Touzin wrote: Hi All, I have an iMac G5 (17, light sensor, Tiger) that stay with a black screen after startup. On Apple support for the iMac G5, there is a procedure for the above problem (question yes no, question yes no... ) that help put the finger on the problem. http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2094 At the end I was left with -Look at your screen A) Is there a faint light coming from your screen? if yes, go to your Mac Store your screen is Kaput. In this case your backlight is still working, but there is no video on the screen, meaning the LCD is bad, the cable is bad oir the onboard video is bad. B) Is the screen completely black? if yes, go to your Mac Store. Shine a flashlight on the screen at an angle, if you can see your desktop then the problem is the backlight or inverter. If you still see nothing, then both the backlight and the video are kaput. Can you connect an external monitor and get anything? if not the issue is the onboard video, which means logic board replacement. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
For Tray Loading iMacs, it might be better to go to Ubuntu 9.04 for powerpc. All CRT iMacs have slow USB 1.1 ports, so some ideas here won't work as they need USB2.0 I have an Early 2001 G3/600 SE Graphite running OS 10.4.11 1GB Ram 80GB 7200 rpm HDD. It has run Ubuntu 9.04 fine, as has my 1999 PowerBook G3/333 Lombard, which has to have XpostFacto to run OS 10.4.11. UMMV J.C. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free. I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram). As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works, even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power. And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I've just bought a similar iMac, which is G3 Blueberry 350Mhz slot loading. I found out it would need an adaptor to install an Airport card and that nearly all sellers of these on eBay were in Hong Kong or elsewhere in China, so it would take some time to arrive. There's also the option of a USB WiFi adaptor, but again nearly all sellers were in Hong Kong, or elsewhere in China. It wouldn't even recongise a USB 3G dongle modem. I bought an Ethernet cable from a hardware store, after checking it was the right type of Ethernet cable and connected to an Ethernet port on my WiFi router. It currently has 192Mb of RAM and can be upgraded to 1Gb. How much RAM should I have to run OS X without the big delays you mention? If I upgrade the RAM how to I make sure both RAM cards are recognised? My two current RAM cards are 64Mb and 128Mb and one of them has slower RAM than the other, but I read somewhere to get two RAM cards of the same type to make sure they both work. On 11 January 2012 03:41, Peter Haller peter.j.h.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. snip If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Dead keyboard???
On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Paul Brown wrote: Unless Apple keyboards are of a totally different construction from PC keyboards then it's dead. This because any liquids except water contain sugar. You can never remove the dried gunk from the keyboard innards. Get a replacement from Apple or eBay. You've nothing to loose with the dishwasher at this point. The Apple aluminum keyboard is all but impossible to take apart. And I've repaired a lot of keyboards in the Kenmore. The drying time is the key here, the longer the better chance of revival. I stand them upside down on the top rack and run the full cycle including the drying. I also use the Jet Dry additive. I put it upside down if front of a slow fan for three or more days, John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Blueberry --- was: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I have a G3/400 iMac, slot loading also, and it feels quite slow to me running OS 10.2, I just got Tiger disks so I'll run an upgrade sometime soon, whenever I feel like digging it out of the garage. Mine has a gig of ram, but then again I also never got to reinstall the OS when I got it so the original 20 gig drive has like 2 gigs free. I will tell you though that speed is a matter of opinion. For my mac I typically use a Dual 2 GHz G5 with 4 gigs ram, and that makes my desktop running Linux feel slow (2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with 3 gigs ram). As for airport, I also noticed that all the adapters seemed to be in China also. About 2 years ago I got my iMac and I wanted wireless also, but didn't feel like buying one from China, so I just used an old Windows laptop with a bad screen (backlight was out) and ran that using Internet Connection Sharing and a crossover cable for internet, cheap and works, even more so when you pull the screen completely to save power. And for ram, mixing is fine, I originally had it running with a 512 and a 128 before I got a 2nd 512 meg chip, both of different speeds and it worked fine. Just make sure you're not using 66 MHz ram, only 100 and 133 MHz ram. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Dead keyboard???
I regularly record music in a studio which runs Logic Pro V9 on a Mac Pro with Intel Xeon CPU and a keyboard which looks identical to the description posted on this thread. I told the Recording Engineer about this thread and he quickly found the page on www.apple.com where you can buy a replacement keyboard of the same type. On 24 January 2012 14:16, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: You've nothing to loose with the dishwasher at this point. The Apple aluminum keyboard is all but impossible to take apart. And I've repaired a lot of keyboards in the Kenmore. The drying time is the key here, the longer the better chance of revival. I stand them upside down on the top rack and run the full cycle including the drying. I also use the Jet Dry additive. I put it upside down if front of a slow fan for three or more days, -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 2 Topics
• MacKeeper info [4 Updates] Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com Jan 21 04:17PM -0700 Beverly Woods macli...@beverlywoods.net Jan 22 08:11PM -0500 On 1/21/12 6:07 PM, Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean- My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? CapnMac I would not recommend MacKeeper at all. I have removed it from clients' computers where it caused significant problems. I am not clear from your post what exactly it is you want your software to do? Beverly I agree MacKeeper is not something that you want to have on your Mac. Kim kimhan...@gmail.com Jan 22 11:21PM -0500 Did the software, MacKeeper, cause problems or did the users cause problems? If you are aware of problems I should be looking out for I would love to know what the are. MacKeeper has been very dependable for me in uninstalling software, which is what I believe he was asking about. Kim Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com Jan 22 10:44PM -0800 I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean- My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? I'm not clear what do you want to update. As for uninstalling, AppZapper has been working great for me since Tiger, all the way to Lion. It has a very simple, drag-and-drop interface, and has never given me a moment of grief in all these years. Even better, you can download it and try it I think five or six times before you buy it. HTH, Felix I have used AppZapper for many years, one of the best Share-Ware's I've ever purchased. However if you install MacKeeper and use AppZapper to remove MacKeeper there will be a lot of pieces of MacKeeper left in the bowels of the Mac. However MacKeeper has an uninstaller and if you look closely it can be found. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
I still recommend MacKeeper until I hear what problems Beverly has encountered. It will, if you ask it to, give you a list of apps that need updating and provides and provides one click access to download the updates. It will also list applications from which you can then choose to uninstall. it will also watch and if it sees you drag an application to the trash it will hop in and ask if you want mackeeper's wise uninstaller to uninstall that app. It has lots of other bells and whistles, duplicate finders, encryption, etc. I really wish Beverly would give more information about problems she encountered. meanwhile here is a list of uninstallers http://en.softonic.com/mac/uninstallers-cleaners Heres a page about a 3rd party software updater called MacFresh http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-automatically-keep-your-macs-apps-fresh-updated/ Kim On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Cap'n Bob McBurney rcapn...@comcast.netwrote: On 1/21/12 6:07 PM, Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean-My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? CapnMac I would not recommend MacKeeper at all. I have removed it from clients' computers where it caused significant problems. I am not clear from your post what exactly it is you want your software to do? Beverly What I want to do is have a reliable and stable updater for 3rd party software that Apple Software does not update. Second, I want software that will fully uninstall software I no longer use. Sorry that I didn't make my request clear. CapnMac -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
At 12:43 PM -0500 1/23/2012, Kim wrote: Kim... 1) please keep in mind that these LEM lists *require* that you post in PLAIN text. Your use of all but unreadable HTML blue whatevertheheck font that be is unacceptable. 2) While we don't enforce bottom posting on these LEM lists, it is *extremely* bad netiquette to top post on an already bottom posted message. Emails should NEVER had gotos in them. [Kim's HTML and fonting stripped] I still recommend MacKeeper until I hear what problems Beverly has encountered. Over the past year or two, I've received more than a dozen complaints regarding MacKeeper. Everything from it skipping files it should have deleted, deleting files that it shouldn't have, to it crashing, etc. And over the years, MacKeeper HAS NOT BEEN FIXED. Bottom line: MacKeeper is pretty much a poster child for over-advertized suckerware. It should not be near any Mac. Period. Beverly's polite opin, frankly, is simply the tip of the iceberg... Of course, YMMV. Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: What I want to do is have a reliable and stable updater for 3rd party software that Apple Software does not update. No such reliable beast. (see below). I want software that will fully uninstall software I no longer use. No such reliable beast. See, here's the problem... Apps do things in different ways. And not all developers follow Apple's guidelines as strictly as they should. So a product that claims that it can manage all your 3rd party installs or uninstalls is simply LYING to you. At best, it can only do so based on those individual apps that for which it was designed *and* for which it has been recently updated. At worst, if it contains bugs, it can damage your system by doing an incomplete install or uninstall. (ObQuibble: To support said uninstalls, the developer must hack into those apps to see what's what. Unless they have permission from the app's author, that's illegal!). Most apps include their own mechanism to apply updates (eg: Sparkle). Many are also beginning to offer updates via Apple's app store system. So just... let the app check for updates when you launch it, then do whatever it tells you to do. Easypeasy. As for uninstalling... Most app uninstalls are trivial. Toss the app. Toss the prefs. Done. Apps that are any more complicated than that usually provide an uninstaller function or app. No big deal. And an uninstaller provided by the app's developer is 100% more reliable than some 3rd party general uninstaller that may or may not have been updated and may or may not be buggy... fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 12:43 PM -0500 1/23/2012, Kim wrote: Kim... 1) please keep in mind that these LEM lists *require* that you post in PLAIN text. Your use of all but unreadable HTML blue whatevertheheck font that be is unacceptable. 2) While we don't enforce bottom posting on these LEM lists, it is *extremely* bad netiquette to top post on an already bottom posted message. Emails should NEVER had gotos in them. [Kim's HTML and fonting stripped] I still recommend MacKeeper until I hear what problems Beverly has encountered. Over the past year or two, I've received more than a dozen complaints regarding MacKeeper. Everything from it skipping files it should have deleted, deleting files that it shouldn't have, to it crashing, etc. And over the years, MacKeeper HAS NOT BEEN FIXED. Bottom line: MacKeeper is pretty much a poster child for over-advertized suckerware. It should not be near any Mac. Period. Beverly's polite opin, frankly, is simply the tip of the iceberg... Of course, YMMV. Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: What I want to do is have a reliable and stable updater for 3rd party software that Apple Software does not update. No such reliable beast. (see below). I want software that will fully uninstall software I no longer use. No such reliable beast. See, here's the problem... Apps do things in different ways. And not all developers follow Apple's guidelines as strictly as they should. So a product that claims that it can manage all your 3rd party installs or uninstalls is simply LYING to you. At best, it can only do so based on those individual apps that for which it was designed *and* for which it has been recently updated. At worst, if it contains bugs, it can damage your system by doing an incomplete install or uninstall. (ObQuibble: To support said uninstalls, the developer must hack into those apps to see what's what. Unless they have permission from the app's author, that's illegal!). Most apps include their own mechanism to apply updates (eg: Sparkle). Many are also beginning to offer updates via Apple's app store system. So just... let the app check for updates when you launch it, then do whatever it tells you to do. Easypeasy. As for uninstalling... Most app uninstalls are trivial. Toss the app. Toss the prefs. Done. Apps that are any more complicated than that usually provide an uninstaller function or app. No big deal. And an uninstaller provided by the app's developer is 100% more reliable than some 3rd party general uninstaller that may or may not have been updated and may or may not be buggy... fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Dan : Gotta love bureaucrats with nothing to offer! Keep up the good work! By the way is there no rule on supercilious signatures? Not even when they are very pale grey? Kim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/imaclist http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kim wrote: Gotta love bureaucrats with nothing to offer! Dan just gave you a very concise explanation as to why this software a) doesn't work well and b) isn't likely to. There are, as a rule, only five places to look for program remnants on a Mac: (Adobe and Microsoft apps routinely violate these rules, but both offer dedicated updaters and uninstall programs) 1) /Applications for the application itself 2) /Library/Application Support -- where system wide application things go 3) /Library/Preferences -- system wide pref files for stuff 4) /Users/your user name/Application Support 5) /Users/your user name/Preferences The vast majority of applications will only have files in 1 and 5. MOST applications these days offer either automated support checks (off the top of my head among programs I use:BBEdit, VirtualBox, Firefox, Thunderbird, Graphic Converter, Adobe Design Suite and Acrobat and Microsoft Office, DBVisualizer..and those are just the ones in the dock.) No third party program can possibly keep track, and a program that attaches itself to your trash is well able to bork your system good. Keep up the good work! By the way is there no rule on supercilious signatures? Not even when they are very pale grey? Kim Dan's signature is only pale gray because your email client renders it as such. His emails are always sent in plain text -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 2 Topics
AppZapper's info and strong point is that it removes all material associated with an app. I too have used it for years. On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Harry A. Freeman wrote: However if you install MacKeeper and use AppZapper to remove MacKeeper there will be a lot of pieces of MacKeeper left in the bowels of the Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
How about using a search find and spotlight I've used both successfully. On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: There are, as a rule, only five places to look for program remnants on a Mac: -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
As Kim requested, here are some of the problems I have with MacKeeper: Until recently, MacKeeper installed WINE. I was asked to fix a Mac that was running at a crawl, with frequent SBBOD, etc. Problem turned out to be that WINE had taken over most of the CPU. This appears to have been a common problem with MacKeeper, and users did not have any idea that MacKeeper installed WINE or what that means. Nor is it trivial for an unhappy purchaser to discover the problem and remove the offending emulator. They now have a new version without WINE. But really - something called MacKeeper that needed WINE to run? Seriously?? And then there's the marketing of it and the way the company takes advantage of people, misleads them, etc. See for instance these articles: http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/ http://themacfeed.com/2011/06/17/mackeeper-a-rather-slimy-tale/ http://ashmug.com/2011/09/mackeeper-is-not-a-keeper/ Ick. Beverly -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
At 5:35 PM -0500 1/23/2012, Amato Michael J. wrote (in the subject broken thread fork): AppZapper's info and strong point is that it removes all material associated with an app. Insert here all the stuff I said about MacKeeper in the other thread fork. AppZapper ONLY works on the apps it actually knows of, has been updated for, or that *only* follow the simple Apple guidelines. Beyond that, AppZapper is a FAIL - and should NOT be depended upon. At 6:19 PM -0500 1/23/2012, Amato Michael J. wrote: How about using a search find and spotlight I've used both successfully. Splotchlight can be useful to find the ancillary files. But you cannot depend on it to find 'em all ... not every file you need to trash will contain the app's name or domain's name or company's name, or be set so it can be seen by the user, plus quite often people exclude certain folders and such from its index... Bottom line: There is NO substitute for putting some thought into it. And always try the product's uninstall feature first. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Dan wrote: Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: What I want to do is have a reliable and stable updater for 3rd party software that Apple Software does not update. No such reliable beast. (see below). I want software that will fully uninstall software I no longer use. No such reliable beast. Debian GNU/Linux and and its derivatives (e.g. Ubuntu) have this feature. Apple is free to use dpkg and APT, but they opted not to on account of the GPL. (ObQuibble: To support said uninstalls, the developer must hack into those apps to see what's what. Unless they have permission from the app's author, that's illegal!). What do you mean by hack into, and how is it illegal? Could I have been sued because I used ResEdit to hack into the Finder and modify the Trash icons and change Empty Trash to Flush Toilet? Is using the 'strings' program illegal? Last I checked, reverse-engineering for the purpose of interoperability was fair use. I agree that no Mac application claiming to be a universal updater/uninstaller should be trusted, but its goal is certainly one of interoperability. Authors don't get automatic dictatorial control over everyone who comes into contact with their works. Josh P.S.: If you reply, consider changing the Subject field. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
On Jan 23, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:19 PM -0500 1/23/2012, Amato Michael J. wrote: How about using a search find and spotlight I've used both successfully. Just make sure you search for the app name, publisher's name (keep it simple), the company domain name (pref files (should) use the domain name in reverse order (ie. com.apple)). Splotchlight can be useful to find the ancillary files. But you cannot depend on it to find 'em all ... not every file you need to trash will contain the app's name or domain's name or company's name, or be set so it can be seen by the user, plus quite often people exclude certain folders and such from its index... Bottom line: There is NO substitute for putting some thought into it. And always try the product's uninstall feature first. On the other hand if you check the usual places (Applications, prefs, App Support, etc) and delete those files in the vast majority of cases what is left, if anything, will be a few trivial files. Meaning that it is only going to be taking up a small amount of space. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mackeeper Info Thread
As for me and my iMac... AppCleaner has been great for removing software: http://www.freemacsoft.net/ AppFresh has been great for updating software: http://metaquark.de/appfresh Best Regards, Patrick B -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Copyright 101 (was Re: Mackeeper Info Thread)
At 7:47 PM -0800 1/23/2012, Joshua Juran wrote: (ObQuibble: To support said uninstalls, the developer must hack into those apps to see what's what. Unless they have permission from the app's author, that's illegal!). What do you mean by hack into, and how is it illegal? Most licenses prohibit product disassembly. Could I have been sued because I used ResEdit to hack into the Finder and modify the Trash icons and change Empty Trash to Flush Toilet? Technically, yes. Most licenses, Apple's included, prohibit the creation of a derivative work without the copyright owner's explicit permission. When you modified (hacked) Finder, you created a derivative work without being licensed to do so. Aren't you lucky that less-evil companies like Apple aren't dedicated to hunting your a** down? Last I checked, reverse-engineering for the purpose of interoperability was fair use. Reverse engineering is the process of examining the input and output of a thing, then producing a NEW thing that offers the same output from the same input. It DOES NOT mean digging into the guts of a thing then simply making modifications (hacks) therein. That would be the act of creating a derivative work -- which is NOT fair use (see above). Authors don't get automatic dictatorial control over everyone who comes into contact with their works. ROFLMAO. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacKeeper info
I would not recommend Mac keeper I use onyx but I don't know if it has the uninstaller -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacKeeper info
On 1/21/12 6:07 PM, Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean-My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? CapnMac I would not recommend MacKeeper at all. I have removed it from clients' computers where it caused significant problems. I am not clear from your post what exactly it is you want your software to do? Beverly -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacKeeper info
Did the software, MacKeeper, cause problems or did the users cause problems? If you are aware of problems I should be looking out for I would love to know what the are. MacKeeper has been very dependable for me in uninstalling software, which is what I believe he was asking about. Kim On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Beverly Woods macli...@beverlywoods.netwrote: On 1/21/12 6:07 PM, Cap'n Bob McBurney wrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean-My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? CapnMac I would not recommend MacKeeper at all. I have removed it from clients' computers where it caused significant problems. I am not clear from your post what exactly it is you want your software to do? Beverly -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/imaclist http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacKeeper info
On Jan 21, 6:07 pm, Cap'n Bob McBurney rcapn...@comcast.net wrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean-My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? I'm not clear what do you want to update. As for uninstalling, AppZapper has been working great for me since Tiger, all the way to Lion. It has a very simple, drag-and-drop interface, and has never given me a moment of grief in all these years. Even better, you can download it and try it I think five or six times before you buy it. HTH, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Jim Scott wrote: IIRC, 2.5.7 and/or 2.5.8. Jim Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I've used the AHT on an identical machine before, and the mouse worked. Which version of ASD works on these machines? Thanks! -Jonas AFAIK ASD Dual Boot 2.1.5 is the earliest one I have and it starts with the iMac G4 1GHz. I think any older ones are AHT or third party.. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Dead keyboard???
On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: one of my cats puked on the thin aluminum keyboard that came with my 24 Imac... now a lot of the keys are dead. Is the keyboard history??? Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 2/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/ wifi, iPhone 3g - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 Try the dish washer and give it two days in front of a fan. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: MacKeeper info
MacKeeper runs very well for me and has lots of additional features. Kim On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Cap'n Bob McBurney rcapn...@comcast.netwrote: I want to buy software to use as update and one that has an unistaller included. I'm running OS X 10.6 on a Mac Mini 1.86, core 2 duo, and 2 GB Ram. Are there any suggestions to software that would be good and stable. I have thought about Mac Keeper and Clean-My-Mac. Any other suggestions or comments on this? CapnMac -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
The only thing, i think you have to keep in mind (as I have one white CoreDuo iMac 17 and tested a little), is that the processor have to be a Meron Core 2 Duo or it will not turn on at all. I have tried a Penrin C2D and it did not worked! Marcelo Andrade +55 81 81521304 [Vivo] PSN ID: MarckOliver75 Sent from my iPhone. On 10/01/2012, at 23:23, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Thank you Jim for the details in line 9 and 10 they are very important to know. I've been using the thumb drives but haven't run into this issue yet so this will save me a lot of hair pulling. My main reason for the original question was if there was any other pitfalls on the MOBO between the models other than the sockets being the same. Now would any know where I gat get a Core 2 Duo 2.16 processor besides pulling one from a machine?sj -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wanting to experiment with Linux
Hi Fred, I just finished installing Linux on my iMac g5; because of the 64 bits issue, you will feel kind of limited. I did try to install pretty much all Linux distros that were ppc64 compatible. I can't say that I'm knowledgeable, though; just like you, I am just starting to play with Linux on Intel and IBM processors. You can forget about mint, unless you use very early versions, but brace yourself for bugs related to the g5 processor. Fedora 12 worked good and it is the only distro that has out of the box support for your broadcom card. The software repositories for ppc are not very well supplied, though. I felt I lost a lot of control over my system though; no more playing around with CPU scaling for instance. Ubuntu worked pretty good, but is not very well supported, and could load my sound card (chip), whatever I did. Had the same issue with Fedora 16 (after much work arounds for the install). The best distro that opens the most possibilities is the latest Debian stable release (wheezy ppc64 in my case). Airport does not work out of the box, but there is a work around (b43-fwcutter firmware exrtactor), complete control over your system, and I was able to compile minitube for ppc64 by following the instructions that came with the source code. Next, I'm installing the rythmbox server to use my android phone as a remote for the Linux app, as these iMacs sound pretty good. Conclusion: follow my advice or not, but IMHO, the most powerful distro for g5 ppc64 is Debian. Whatever you decide to do, good luck and keep us posted of your progress. Cheers, Quattro5. On Dec 26, 2011 12:44 AM, Fred Thiel and Janet Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've got a 3.1GHz iMac core i5 with a spare 200 MB partition. I've always been intrigued by Linux systems and have read about several on this and other Mac lists. Any suggestions for a Linux newbie for a simple version? Thanks much Fred -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wanting to experiment with Linux
Sorry Fred, I read g5 and it's i5, disregard my previous post. I am currently working on turning a PowerBook Intel dual core to dual boot with MacOS, and the first challenges are with firmware loaders. To date, I haven't been able to boot any Linux on it (tried Mint,Ubuntu and fedora 16). Keep us posted of your experiments. Thanks, -Quattro5. On Dec 26, 2011 12:44 AM, Fred Thiel and Janet Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've got a 3.1GHz iMac core i5 with a spare 200 MB partition. I've always been intrigued by Linux systems and have read about several on this and other Mac lists. Any suggestions for a Linux newbie for a simple version? Thanks much Fred -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wanting to experiment with Linux
You need at least to do 2 things: 1) partition your drive for Linux + swap 2) install refit for the dual boot options. That is where I am with this project. Cheers! -Quattro5. On Jan 15, 2012 5:28 PM, Max LeBlanc quattro55...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Fred, I read g5 and it's i5, disregard my previous post. I am currently working on turning a PowerBook Intel dual core to dual boot with MacOS, and the first challenges are with firmware loaders. To date, I haven't been able to boot any Linux on it (tried Mint,Ubuntu and fedora 16). Keep us posted of your experiments. Thanks, -Quattro5. On Dec 26, 2011 12:44 AM, Fred Thiel and Janet Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've got a 3.1GHz iMac core i5 with a spare 200 MB partition. I've always been intrigued by Linux systems and have read about several on this and other Mac lists. Any suggestions for a Linux newbie for a simple version? Thanks much Fred -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dan wrote: Parental Controls can only be activated on a normal user account. If you don't provide the admin id and password, and the user is too stoopid to boot into single-user mode, or from an external, or then they won't be updating anything. OTOH,,, why the need for the restrictions? ...I've never been fond of strapping any user down. Nothing good ever comes from it, IMO. Too often, I've had to deal with the carnage of upset parents, when they discovered that their children had the gall to first learn how to read english, then to use *gasp* Google, and then hack their way around the parental controls, nanny products, etc etc etc. There's just no substitutes for building trust and sharing ice cream sandwiches. - Dan. Put a firmware password in place and you don't have to worry about the user altering the boot disk. You may not choose to use them but there can be legitimate uses for parental controls. My daughter loves pbskids.org. I am not worried about this but would like her to avoid stumbling on other, less appropriate sites. Parental controls can help with this. It is not always a matter of trust and ice cream sandwiches. Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I just got a G4 iMac. It's a 15 800MHZ model. I wanted to run Apple Hardware Test on it to be sure it was solid before I start working on it. It currently has 10.3.9 on it and the mouse works fine, but as soon as I boot into the hardware test, the mouse won't move. The light on the mouse is on, and I'm able to use the Tab key on the keyboard to switch between the different categories, so I know the machine isn't frozen. I've tried old puck mice, and newer pro mice, but no change. I would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks in advance. -- -Jonas Plug your mouse to the machine, not the keyboard?? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
G'day Bill There always has to be a full administrator user present on System X What I did with my daughters iMac (10.7.2) was to password block the admin user, and create a non-password user for the two grandkids. If a software update is required, it's a simple matter logging into the admin account, update the software, and swap back to the kids account. Also, you can generally update from the kids account by supplying the admin user name and password when asked. I have also installed a separate Skype account on the kids user account, blocked except for those users already on the Contacts list. Safari is fully 'locked down' (no cookies except from navigated sites, and no pop ups), with Google as my only browser, and 'Safesearch' set on 'strict'. I also have Applications limited in the user profile in 'System Prefrerences' to Safari, games, and Pages, as well as a few other apps such as 'Comic life'. Works well. Regards Santa On 17/01/2012, at 2:29 PM, Bill Spencer wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 6:26:00 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote: In general, there be only normal and super(root). The latter can do anything, of course. But if you're just looking to limit file access, then you can do things with group IDs or even with access control lists... The hope is to be able to keep parental controls in place but allow software-update-type actions. Bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
Check your mice. I've had a similar problem and believe it or not, it was just that the mouse was incompatible. Try the same type that came with the machine, in fact try several. Just a hunch. You may hae to try several to be on the safe side. Trust me on this one. Peace, _AllnightVi@aol.com_ (mailto:allnigh...@aol.com) In a message dated 1/19/2012 11:51:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jonasulrich3...@gmail.com writes: I just got a G4 iMac. It's a 15 800MHZ model. I wanted to run Apple Hardware Test on it to be sure it was solid before I start working on it. It currently has 10.3.9 on it and the mouse works fine, but as soon as I boot into the hardware test, the mouse won't move. The light on the mouse is on, and I'm able to use the Tab key on the keyboard to switch between the different categories, so I know the machine isn't frozen. I've tried old puck mice, and newer pro mice, but no change. I would really appreciate some input on this. Thanks in advance. -- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at _http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml_ (http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml) and our netiquette guide is at _http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml_ (http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml) To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist_ (http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac late 2006 bootcamp issues
On Jan 20, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: I have win 7 running on a late 2006 20in iMac. The sound will not work. Thanks in advance Re-install the Boot Camp sound drivers? If that doesn't work it's a Windows issue and beyond the scope of the list. (and yet another reason I vastly prefer VM solutions to Boot Camp. VMs have a well defined, generic hardware footprint.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I just got a G4 iMac. It's a 15 800MHZ model. I wanted to run Apple Hardware Test on it to be sure it was solid before I start working on it. It currently has 10.3.9 on it and the mouse works fine, but as soon as I boot into the hardware test, the mouse won't move. The light on the mouse is on, and I'm able to use the Tab key on the keyboard to switch between the different categories, so I know the machine isn't frozen. I've tried old puck mice, and newer pro mice, but no change. Try unplugging the mouse then plugging it back in again. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Connecting iMac to new TV?
On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:20 PM, William Spencer wrote: Hi there: I got this note from a friend today, and am hoping someone here may know more about it than I, since I know absolutely nothing about it. We recently got a 40'' Samsung Smart TV, which is amazing, and I am trying to connect it (for the purpose of mirroring) to my 2007 iMac via a Mini Display Port HDMI Female Adapter to an HDMI chord. My Samsung says to use the HDMI 1 (DVI) port to connect, but it doesn't detect the connection (and I've tried other, plain HDMI ports as well). I've looked online, and there are tons of forums on this type of issue, but I haven't found anything that helped me. I realize that it could be something as simple as a bad cable(s), but have no way to test it. Any suggestions?” I will pass along to him anything you care to send. Thanks in advance! I've done similar things on my (non-samsung) TV via HDMI to my (non iMac) Mac as well as my iPad and they worked without a hitch regardless of which HDMI port I used. Within those caveats, I suspect the issue is a bad cable or bad adapter. HDMI cables are available VERY reasonably from Monoprice http://monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102cp_id=10240 6' cable for $3.50 cannot be beat. Silly question, has he gone in to the Macs System Preferences in the display section and clicked on 'Detect Displays' If the Mac isn't sending a signal, the Samsung won't detect one. If the Mac cannot detect other displays with the thing attached, then I'd look at the cable, the adapter and finally the iMac or TV. Sadly for that you need another HDMI receiver or source. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
I don't believe the mouse works under AHT, I know it won't work under ASD. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
I've used the AHT on an identical machine before, and the mouse worked. Which version of ASD works on these machines? Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
That I'm clueless on as ASD is typically only available to Apple certified techs, not the general public. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No Mouse with AHT
IIRC, 2.5.7 and/or 2.5.8. Jim Scott Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I've used the AHT on an identical machine before, and the mouse worked. Which version of ASD works on these machines? Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
At 5:16 PM -0500 1/16/2012, William Spencer wrote: Is there a way to create different administrators with different levels of access? I have a feeling not but would like to know for sure. In general, there be only normal and super(root). The latter can do anything, of course. But if you're just looking to limit file access, then you can do things with group IDs or even with access control lists... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
On Monday, January 16, 2012 6:26:00 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote: In general, there be only normal and super(root). The latter can do anything, of course. But if you're just looking to limit file access, then you can do things with group IDs or even with access control lists... The hope is to be able to keep parental controls in place but allow software-update-type actions. Bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
Parental controls can only be applied to a standard account. Using a standard account will not allow you to run software update without an administrative username and password. Jim On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Bill Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 6:26:00 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote: In general, there be only normal and super(root). The latter can do anything, of course. But if you're just looking to limit file access, then you can do things with group IDs or even with access control lists... The hope is to be able to keep parental controls in place but allow software-update-type actions. Bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Administrator question
At 7:29 PM -0800 1/16/2012, Bill Spencer wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 6:26:00 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote: In general, there be only normal and super(root). The latter can do anything, of course. But if you're just looking to limit file access, then you can do things with group IDs or even with access control lists... The hope is to be able to keep parental controls in place but allow software-update-type actions. Parental Controls can only be activated on a normal user account. If you don't provide the admin id and password, and the user is too stoopid to boot into single-user mode, or from an external, or then they won't be updating anything. OTOH,,, why the need for the restrictions? ...I've never been fond of strapping any user down. Nothing good ever comes from it, IMO. Too often, I've had to deal with the carnage of upset parents, when they discovered that their children had the gall to first learn how to read english, then to use *gasp* Google, and then hack their way around the parental controls, nanny products, etc etc etc. There's just no substitutes for building trust and sharing ice cream sandwiches. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6 On a machine with 256 MB of RAM? It's just not enough for OS X. Expect to spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled between RAM and disk. I'd try 9.2.2 first. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 15, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6 On a machine with 256 MB of RAM? It's just not enough for OS X. Expect to spend a lot of time waiting while memory pages get juggled between RAM and disk. I'd try 9.2.2 first. It would be sufficient to find out if the ethernet port works or not. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic
On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:30 AM, imaclist@googlegroups.com wrote: Dock/Icon Problem Bill Brown thunder...@mindspring.com Jan 13 01:21PM -0700 Greetings everyone. Bit of a problem here. First, the basic info: 2.4 GHz Intel iMac Core 2 Duo 2 GB RAM The Problem: In my Dock, I had a folder entitled Favorites that I had stored my favorite MP3s and video clips in. Today, Friday the 13th of course, upon starting up my iMac, the place holder for this Favorites folder in the dock showed a question mark where the icon for the folder should be. Hmm. I detected a problem. Here is what I did to try to rectify the problem: Did a Find for my Favorites folder. Not anywhere it shows. Restarted in Safe Mode. No change in the dock icon. Restarted in normal mode. No change. Ran Disk Utility, and, as is usual, it noted many permissions that were whacky. Repaired permissions, verified permissions and disk. No problems with that routine. Restarted normally. No change in icon; still the question mark. How can I get my Favorites folder back easily? I have a back-up of my entire system, but if there is an easier way to fix this, I sure would like to know. Also, what would be the underlying cause for this behavior? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!! Bill Dan dantear...@gmail.com Jan 13 03:40PM -0500 At 1:21 PM -0700 1/13/2012, Bill Brown wrote: 2.4 GHz Intel iMac Core 2 Duo 2 GB RAM OS ? OS is Snow Leopard 10.6.8 favorite MP3s and video clips in. Today, Friday the 13th of course, upon starting up my iMac, the place holder for this Favorites folder in the dock showed a question mark So either the folder's alias in the dock is corrupted, or the folder to which it points is either gone or corrupted. Did a Find for my Favorites folder. Not anywhere it shows. Restarted in Safe Mode. No change in the dock icon. Restarted in normal mode. No change. There's a dead crow on your windshield, so you restarted your car's engine. Windshield wipers won't work without the engine running ... : ) Ran Disk Utility, and, as is usual, it noted many permissions that were whacky. Repaired permissions, verified permissions and disk. No problems with that routine. If your permissions were foo, then you'd see many many other problems. Also, the permissions that that function repairs have NOTHING to do with user files. Doing a verify disk pass is what should have been done. By and disk, is that what you mean? Yes. Verified everything. Restarted normally. No change in icon; still the question mark. Drag that foo icon off the dock. Icon will not let me move it off the dock. ??? Manually locate the original folder and drag it to the dock. Cannot manually find the original folder. If the original folder is AWOL, try searching for something that you know was inside it... A search returns nothing, not the folder title, nor any content names within it that I know should be there. Also, what would be the underlying cause for this behavior? Depends on what actually happened. Could be your HD threw a bad block. If that's the case, then there should be some messages in your system log. Could also be you accidentally tossed the folder into the trash... No relevant messages in system log. 2 other people have access to my computer, and I'm doubtful that one of them accidentally trashed the files/folder/icon. Guess I will reload from my back-up. Thanks for your assistance, Dan. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:03 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I read on Everymac that the processors in the white iMacs are swappable. I have a iMac 20 2.0 Core Duo and would like to put in a 2.16 Core 2 Duo. Has any one done this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 Yes, I've upgraded a Core Duo processor in a white iSight iMac to a Core 2 Duo processor. The processor fits into a socket and is thus removable. That's the good news. The bad news is that you have to disassemble the iMac to remove the logic board so you can get at the screws that clamp the heat sink over the processor. It's an almost complete disassembly, so you would be well advised to obtain an Apple service manual for the iMac in question. Don't forget to use fresh thermal paste -- I like Arctic Silver. If you're planning to do this so you can run OS X 10.7 Lion, you need to understand that the Lion installer doesn't care a whit about what processor you've installed. It looks for the Model Identifier in About This Mac (iMac8,1, for example) and compares the one it finds with the list of models on which Lion can be installed. So even if your upgraded now-Core 2 Duo iMac otherwise runs perfectly, the Lion installer will not install directly and will give you the old white circle with a slash screen to show its displeasure. However, there is a workaround to get Lion up and running on Lion-incompatible Intel Macs with Lion-compatible Core 2 Duo processor upgrades. Here's a detailed explanation of how to do it I wrote last August to explain how I did it to some clients who wanted me to upgrade their iMac and their Mac Mini from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo. Here's the process. Keep in mind this was written in the very first days of Lion, so you may already have a USB Lion thumb driver installer, and thus can skip to Step 8: Thank you Jim for the details in line 9 and 10 they are very important to know. I've been using the thumb drives but haven't run into this issue yet so this will save me a lot of hair pulling. My main reason for the original question was if there was any other pitfalls on the MOBO between the models other than the sockets being the same. Now would any know where I gat get a Core 2 Duo 2.16 processor besides pulling one from a machine?sj John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:03 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I read on Everymac that the processors in the white iMacs are swappable. I have a iMac 20 2.0 Core Duo and would like to put in a 2.16 Core 2 Duo. Has any one done this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 Yes, I've upgraded a Core Duo processor in a white iSight iMac to a Core 2 Duo processor. The processor fits into a socket and is thus removable. That's the good news. The bad news is that you have to disassemble the iMac to remove the logic board so you can get at the screws that clamp the heat sink over the processor. It's an almost complete disassembly, so you would be well advised to obtain an Apple service manual for the iMac in question. Don't forget to use fresh thermal paste -- I like Arctic Silver. If you're planning to do this so you can run OS X 10.7 Lion, you need to understand that the Lion installer doesn't care a whit about what processor you've installed. It looks for the Model Identifier in About This Mac (iMac8,1, for example) and compares the one it finds with the list of models on which Lion can be installed. So even if your upgraded now-Core 2 Duo iMac otherwise runs perfectly, the Lion installer will not install directly and will give you the old white circle with a slash screen to show its displeasure. However, there is a workaround to get Lion up and running on Lion-incompatible Intel Macs with Lion-compatible Core 2 Duo processor upgrades. Here's a detailed explanation of how to do it I wrote last August to explain how I did it to some clients who wanted me to upgrade their iMac and their Mac Mini from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo. Here's the process. Keep in mind this was written in the very first days of Lion, so you may already have a USB Lion thumb driver installer, and thus can skip to Step 8: Thank you Jim for the details in line 9 and 10 they are very important to know. I've been using the thumb drives but haven't run into this issue yet so this will save me a lot of hair pulling. My main reason for the original question was if there was any other pitfalls on the MOBO between the models other than the sockets being the same. Now would any know where I gat get a Core 2 Duo 2.16 processor besides pulling one from a machine? You're welcome, John. Sorry about the repeat of a good chunk of the text in my original post. I've got a Magic Trackpad next to my shortie bluetooth Apple keyboard, and for some reason that causes very strange things to happen to my e-mail text from time to time. Usually I catch it, but this time I didn't. Doesn't happen when I'm using a word processor, only with e-mail. Go figure. There are no other pitfalls to be encountered, other than the usual disassembly/assembly stuff that has to be done just so to avoid problems. Once you get to the bare cpu, all you have to do is insert a tiny flat blade screwdriver into the slot, turn it 180 degrees, and the cpu is loose and ready to be lifted out. Lots nicer than the old lift-the-lever sockets of olden dayes. I bought my Core 2 Duo cpus on eBay for quite reasonable prices, so there's no need to buy a complete Mac and strip it. Just make sure that the cpu you're buying is compatible with the socket. A 2.16 Core 2 Duo mobile chip should be a perfect, worry-free choice. Have fun! Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
The 2.16 would be a T7600, the fastest 667 MHz Core 2 Duo Mobile made. I don't believe they made any 800 MHz FSB Core Duo processors so I would try and find a T7600 for the max speed. If you aren't worried about speed a T5800 or a T7200 would also work, neither are that much slower than the other as the T7200 is 2 GHz and the T5800 is 1.8 GHz. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
I used to use mine with dial-up using earthlink, and then with Cox cable - mine played a lot of games it wasn't supposed too - I was told the extra RAM made up for a lot - Dennis San Diego On Jan 10, 2012, at 07:41 PM, Peter Haller peter.j.h.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Help! What to do with iMac Bondi G3 Tray Loading 233mhx cpu 256 mb ram
On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Peter Haller wrote: Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Definitely get it up to 10.2 at least, this will eliminate a host of weird issues that could cause this in 8.6 -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
I believe the CPUs in the Core Duo and Core 2 Duo iMacs are Laptop processors, at least the 2007 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo iMac I worked on had the CPU identified by CPU-Z in Bootcamp with XP as a Mobile Core 2 Duo. As for upgrading, I'm sure it's possible. It was possible in the Mac Mini's so I don't see why it wouldn't be a socketed chip, it would take a lot of work to solder 478 pins as close together as they are. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade processor?
On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:03 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I read on Everymac that the processors in the white iMacs are swappable. I have a iMac 20 2.0 Core Duo and would like to put in a 2.16 Core 2 Duo. Has any one done this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 Yes, I've upgraded a Core Duo processor in a white iSight iMac to a Core 2 Duo processor. The processor fits into a socket and is thus removable. That's the good news. The bad news is that you have to disassemble the iMac to remove the logic board so you can get at the screws that clamp the heat sink over the processor. It's an almost complete disassembly, so you would be well advised to obtain an Apple service manual for the iMac in question. Don't forget to use fresh thermal paste -- I like Arctic Silver. If you're planning to do this so you can run OS X 10.7 Lion, you need to understand that the Lion installer doesn't care a whit about what processor you've installed. It looks for the Model Identifier in About This Mac (iMac8,1, for example) and compares the one it finds with the list of models on which Lion can be installed. So even if your upgraded now-Core 2 Duo iMac otherwise runs perfectly, the Lion installer will not install directly and will give you the old white circle with a slash screen to show its displeasure. However, there is a workaround to get Lion up and running on Lion-incompatible Intel Macs with Lion-compatible Core 2 Duo processor upgrades. Here's a detailed explanation of how to do it I wrote last August to explain how I did it to some clients who wanted me to upgrade their iMac and their Mac Mini from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo. Here's the process. Keep in mind this was written in the very first days of Lion, so you may already have a USB Lion thumb driver installer, and thus can skip to Step 8: 1. Using a Lion-compatible Core 2 Duo or better Mac running OS X 10.6.8 that’s received all its latest Apple updates, click on the App Store icon in the Dock and buy OS X 10.7 (Build 11A511). When the almost 4 GB download is complete, it will appear in the Applications folder as Install Mac OS X Lion. 2. Right click on this installer icon, then select Show Package Contents, go to SharedSupport and find InstallESD.dmg. That’s the OS X 10.7 Lion installer. 3. Hold down the Option key, click on InstallESD.dmg and drag a copy of the installer to the desktop. (NOTE: If you upgrade your 10.6.8 Mac to Lion before doing steps 2. and 3., the Install Mac OS X Lion folder will disappear from Applications and you’ll have to re-download the Lion installer from the App Store. Pulling a copy of InstallESD.dmg to the desktop avoids this problem; you can delete it or move it to a backup drive to save space later.) 4. Open Disk Utility, then click on InstallESD.dmg and drag it to the left pane. 5. To burn a DVD, insert a DVD into the optical drive, select InstallESD.dmg, select Burn under Images in the menu bar, and burn the DVD. You will not use the DVD to upgrade your original Core Duo Mac to Lion, but you might as well make one now. 6. To make a bootable USB thumb drive, you will need one at least 8 GB in size. Insert it into a USB port, then select it in the left pane in Disk Utility. Click on the Partition tab, choose 1 Partition, choose Mac OS Extended (Journaled), name the drive Lion USB Installer or whatever you want, click on the Options button and select GUID as the partition type. Then tap on Apply and Disk Utility will erase and format your thumb drive so it will be bootable by any original Core 2 Duo or better Intel Mac. 7. Now you’re ready to install the OS X 10.7 InstallESD.dmg image on your USB thumb drive. Click Restore in the right pane of Disk Utility, then choose InstallESD.dmg as the Source by clicking on it in the left pane. Click on the USB thumb drive in the left pane and drag it to the Destination window in the right pane. Tap on Apply and Disk Utility will create an OS X 10.7 bootable installer on your USB thumb drive. 8. Obtain an external hard drive, preferably one with a USB 2.0 interface. Connect it to a known OS X 10.7-compatible Intel Core 2 Duo or better/newer Mac. Use Disk Utility to partition the drive in GUID, and name it whatever you wish. See 12. below for a suggestion about setting up a backup partition at this time. 9. Insert the USB Lion thumb drive into a port on your Lion-compatible Mac and use the InstallESD.dmg file to install OS X 10.7 Lion on the external USB 2.0 drive. The USB thumb drive will show up on the desktop as Mac OS X Install ESD; you do not have to boot from the thumb drive although it is bootable. Simply click on the white icon to launch the Lion installer, which needs a native Lion-compatible host Mac to run the installer. 10. When Lion has been installed, test it by booting from the USB external drive (hold down the Option key during restart and select the external drive
Re: upgrade HD for g3
Success! Worth it, in my view. Both storage space and speed for some actions clearly increased over old harddrive, and also faster than r/w to firewire drives. New 7200 drive was partitioned into a 128G part and a remainder (mostly unaccessed!) part, and I cloned the system into the former. The imac case is warmer than before, so fingers crossed about that. RS On Dec 17 2011, 4:26 pm, Mike Linnett mike.dogho...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, 17 December 2011 at 16:36, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/12/16 21:36, Dennis Faulkner so eloquently wrote: As somewhat of a novice, what would too hot for Imac's mean - would that mean that you would need to upgrade the fan further, or house this drive in a external housing, or what? The Al plate that the boards are mounted to in the G3 iMacs acts as a giant heat sink and conducts the heat away from the CPU, then the heat is dispersed by passive convection (no fan). So any additional heat generated beyond what it was designed to handle can be hard to dissipate, though it's probably not much of an issue unless it is operating in a warm environment, running at 100% or doesn't have much air movement around it. Tina -- Modern drives probably run a bit cooler than older ones too, even if they're a higher rpm, I put a 7200rpm seagate drive in my nan's iMac a while ago and it's been fine since. But, external firewire drive-no internal bus size limit (or hacks to get around it), no surgery required, easy to replace/upgrade in the future. Firewire might be faster than the internal at a bus anyway, it'll only be ata-66, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
On Jan 3, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Al Poulin wrote: I'd like to use RealPlayer files. Are there cautions about using RealPlayer for Mac? Is there any alternative software for .ram files? Nope, proprietary codec, proprietary player, you have to install RealPlayer. No major problems iirc, but I haven't dealt with it in years...just haven't run into anything I wanted that was only available in RP. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
Hi Al, Real Player has been known to be a memory hog. Not to mention the ads and other junk it wants to install... Have you tried VideoLan (VLC) Player? It supports most audio / video formats: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Best of luck to you. - Patrick Berg - RealPlayer for Mac, Problems? #134a7deab69c52b2_group_thread_0 [1 Update] RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/t/3da6286e59a78a04 Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com Jan 03 06:11PM -0800 I'd like to use RealPlayer files. Are there cautions about using RealPlayer for Mac? Is there any alternative software for .ram files? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
On Jan 4, 10:38 am, Patrick Berg skyvalley4je...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Al, Have you tried VideoLan (VLC) Player? It supports most audio / video formats: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Thank you Patrick. I've sent a file for testing to my son who has VLC. Like Bruce, he hasn't used RealPlayer nor seen .ram files in years. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
On 2012/01/03 19:11, Al Poulin so eloquently wrote: I'd like to use RealPlayer files. Are there cautions about using RealPlayer for Mac? Is there any alternative software for .ram files? I think RealPlayer isn't as bad as it once was, but it still annoyingly prompts you to quit your web browser so it can install an internet plug-in. If you want to steer clear of RealPlayer, VLC can play real files. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Burning video
At 11:44 AM -0800 12/28/2011, Dale Goodvin wrote: I am using OSX 10.5.8 and cannot figure out how to burn a video file that I've downloaded onto my my hard drive onto a dvd. The file is in the following format: name of file.flv and plays via Adobe Media Player. If I just burn the file itself onto a dvd, of course it is unrecognizable to the dvd player, so I need to know how to do convert it into a recognizable video format. FLV is a container file (like .mov, .avi, .mkv, .mpg) that can contain a number of different data streams, in various formats. DVD-Video requires MPEG 2 video and MPEG 1 layer 2 audio, broken up into a special layout. Some DVD Players also support playing certain container files, of varying formats. Mine, for example, will do AVI files that contain certain MPEG4 codecs and MP3 audio. You need to transcode your flash media file into something your DVD Player can handle. One of my fav tools is Burn.app. Set Burn to do a DVD-Video, drag the container file onto it, and it automagically handles the transcoding then the reformatting, then burning process. http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Burning video
On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Dale Goodvin wrote: I am using OSX 10.5.8 and cannot figure out how to burn a video file that I've downloaded onto my my hard drive onto a dvd. The file is in the following format: name of file.flv and plays via Adobe Media Player. If I just burn the file itself onto a dvd, of course it is unrecognizable to the dvd player, so I need to know how to do convert it into a recognizable video format. Quicktime Pro, plus Perian will let you turn it into something iMovie can feed to iDVD. Alternatively, FFMPegX will let you do the transcoding. still need iDVD or the very hard-to-find Sizzle to author the DVD. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Burning video
On 2011/12/28 16:13, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: still need iDVD or the very hard-to-find Sizzle to author the DVD. The MacUpdate link for Sizzle is dead but I found it at Softpedia: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Sizzle-b.shtml HTH, Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Ethernet printing via Airport Express?
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:34:16 AM UTC-5, flags wrote: On 12/26/11 8:03 PM, Bill Spencer wrote: On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:18:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Spencer wrote: snip The fellow told me that Airport Express cannot print using the Ethernet port at all, only via USB. But I've had another inspiration...isn't there a USB-to-Ethernet adapter available? Would that do the trick? Google says https://www.google.com/search?q=usb+to+cat+5ie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a All right, thanks! They exist. Would one work for what I need: printing wirelessly to my old Laserwriter, which has no USB port, only Ethernet? Or will the AXp still see it as Ethernet? --Bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3 iMac: 256mb ram, 8gb hd, 233mhz processor. What to do with it.
On Dec 26, 12:50 pm, Peter Haller peter.j.h.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have an old bonie blue iMac G3. I upgraded it to 256mb of ram. However, now I dont know what do with it I was going to use it as a word processor and light internet computer. However it didn't recognize the ethernet port I plugged in it. I tried updating the USB drive recognition software so that it would recognize flash drives. However that didn't work either. So right now I don't know how to get it connected with the outside world. If you have any ideas of how I could get it connected that would be great. If not, what else could I put on it? Oh and it run OS 8.6 although I could upgrade it to one of the OS X, but I dont know if it would help. Thanks, please reply. Hi Peter, It could be the OS. That model can run OS 9.2.2 and 10.3 (Panther) pretty well as it is, as long as you don't expect it to break any Guinness Book records. I had one just like it which was mainly used as an iTunes and Internet radio jukebox in my bedroom with a USB wifi adapter. Hope it helps! HTH, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wanting to experiment with Linux
On Dec 26, 12:44 am, Fred Thiel and Janet Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've got a 3.1GHz iMac core i5 with a spare 200 MB partition. I've always been intrigued by Linux systems and have read about several on this and other Mac lists. Any suggestions for a Linux newbie for a simple version? Try Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Linux Mint in particular boasts of being particularly user-friendly --something that cannot be said of ANY Linux flavor I have tinkered with, including Ubuntu and Debian. HTH, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Corrupted Files?
I'm totally lost! I've tried everything I can think of and still keep getting the corrupted data file error when I try to open a dmg file on my iMac. I've run Disk Warrior, Drive Genius and Disk Utility. Early on, Disk Utility and Drive Genius found and corrected a few errors. Now everything is reported as 'just peachy', yet I still can't open a disk image file. Short of explosives, I don't know what to do. Any suggestions? Amanda On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: J. R., Bruce and Jim… Many thanks! Y'all have given me a weekend's worth of tinkering. I =have= installed a couple of fonts recently. Had no idea they 'might' cause such devilment! ;-) I'll get to work and see wheat happens. Happy weekending folks Amanda On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 19, 2011, at 9:50 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote: To begin with I'd run permissions repair and DiskWarrior just to get that out of the way. On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Thanks to John and Jim for their response!!! What I've done since my first post: Ran disk utilities. Found 1 permission error in an iTunes directory. Repaired that. Verify disk reported no errors. Then I nuked and reinstalled just the OS (10.6). Tried to update to 10.6.8. Cannot expand the file. The file may have been corrupted Re-nuked and reinstalled just the OS. Tried to update from a file downloaded on another computer. Cannot expand the file. The file may have been corrupted Re-nuked and reinstalled just the OS. Ran Drive Genius 3 verify. Disk appears to be okay. DG 3 scan found no bad blocks. Re-nuked and reinstalled the OS. Restored from the earliest Time Machine Backup. Still the same problems. Ran Disk Warrior 4.3. Smart status was okay. There were directory errors… rebuilt and replaced. There were file errors reported, but I'm not sure what DW did about them. Still the same problems. Files are corrupted or have invalid checksums. I dunno!?!?! Amanda Hmmm. Drive Genius 3 verify is the same as running Disk Utility's verify. Did you run the DG3 Integrity Checks (read and write, random and sustained)? I've found that hard drives that start getting wonky but will pass a verify check and a bad sector scan sometimes have read and/or write problems, especially slowdowns. Run the DG3 tests for hours. That should ferret out any read/write problems. If not, then something is causing your 10.6.8 update downloads to be corrupted. Try getting the download through a Mac at a friend/relative's house. Are you downloading to an external drive or to a thumb drive: maybe that's where your problem lies? Or it could be a USB or firewire port/bus problem. You did try purging caches by starting in Safe Mode (hold down shift key a log time)? Have you tried AppleJack 1.6 for Snow Leopard? It's also got a very thorough deep clean of caches option that may do the trick. Neither one should be necessary if you've done a proper nuke and pave with a clean OS install, but without using Migration Assistant or Time Machine to import any of your other apps and data. What I find puzzling though is that a nuke and pave with 10.6 works OK, but the problem occurs when you try to update to 10.6.8. Does the problem occur if you run other 10.6 updates, but not the 10.6.xx update? Have you tried using another user account set up as administrator? Do a nuke and pave of the OS only, then run the 10.6.8 download update as that test user. Good luck! Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Ethernet printing via Airport Express?
On 12/26/11 8:03 PM, Bill Spencer wrote: On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:18:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Spencer wrote: snip The fellow told me that Airport Express cannot print using the Ethernet port at all, only via USB. But I've had another inspiration...isn't there a USB-to-Ethernet adapter available? Would that do the trick? Google says https://www.google.com/search?q=usb+to+cat+5ie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: air print
I use something called the AirPrint Activator. You download it from the mac app store. I works with all iOS devices. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Dennis Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: I mainly use Printopia's Send to Mac option to quickly get photos, etc. to my iMac. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Sent via my GMail webmail On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 18:15, Lynn Wegley lyn...@gmail.com wrote: I too prefer Printopia, although it is a $10 application. I print to a 5 year old Brother and a year old Epson Stylus. However I also admit that I don't print much from my iPhone. (Don't have an iPad.) It also prints to PDF and to Dropbox. Lynn See the InfoManager blog at http://www.ugnn.com/ On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Any one out there had any experience with any of the printers Apple recommends on their website for using this tech??? I have looked at them, none is rated more than 3 out of 5 stars... reviews are full of people who have had these printers a few days who are happy, but as time goes on, the experience seems to sour. I have a Macbook Pro, an iPad, 2 iPhones the iMac I am writing on, all connected wirelessly via the Clear modem my isp sent me, would like to be able to print. Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 4/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/wifi, iPhone 3g - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- *-Peter Haller* ** -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 makes my xmas sad (help)
It sounds like a power supply issue or a processor issue. I had a Power Mac G5 that would cause the take off mode when doing anything intensive, then it would lock up, and it turned out I had a bad processor. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G5 makes my xmas sad (help)
On Dec 25, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: It sounds like a power supply issue or a processor issue. I had a Power Mac G5 that would cause the take off mode when doing anything intensive, then it would lock up, and it turned out I had a bad processor. The key is that it's a G5. It's a power supply issue most likely; the G5 iMacs were the Mac model most affected by the great Capacitor Plague http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. The service you're referring to almost certainly is a cap replacement service. There are services and kits available to do this for both the logic board and the power supply. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 3 Messages in 2 Topics
A Thanks, tapping the screen was all it took... Found the repeat button set to replay the same song over over... :-( my bad. Thanks for all the printing advice too. Getting a printer today. Sent from my iPad On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:32 AM, imaclist@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/topics air print [2 Updates] (OT?) itunes problem? [1 Update] air print Lynn Wegley lyn...@gmail.com Dec 22 08:15PM -0600 I too prefer Printopia, although it is a $10 application. I print to a 5 year old Brother and a year old Epson Stylus. However I also admit that I don't print much from my iPhone. (Don't have an iPad.) It also prints to PDF and to Dropbox. Lynn See the InfoManager blog at http://www.ugnn.com/ On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Dennis Swaney ro...@aol.com Dec 23 10:13AM -0800 I mainly use Printopia's Send to Mac option to quickly get photos, etc. to my iMac. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Sent via my GMail webmail (OT?) itunes problem? Louis Labrie llab...@gmail.com Dec 23 04:57AM -0500 When you are listening to music you should have two buttons one for repeat and one for shuffle also the time lapse is there on the top part of the artwork.Iif this isn't there just tap the screen and it should pop up. At least this is how it works for me but I'm on a iPhone 3GS iOS 5.0.1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on yours. Hope this helps. Sent from Lou's iPhone You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group imaclist. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (OT?) itunes problem?
When you are listening to music you should have two buttons one for repeat and one for shuffle also the time lapse is there on the top part of the artwork.Iif this isn't there just tap the screen and it should pop up. At least this is how it works for me but I'm on a iPhone 3GS iOS 5.0.1, but I'm pretty sure it's the same on yours. Hope this helps. Sent from Lou's iPhone On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Ben Kernan bkpro...@yahoo.com wrote: HELP!!! I know this is slightly ot, but I don't know which list to ask this to. My iphone 3g 8 gig (iOS 3.13) is repeating songs in itunes. There used to be a button to toggle this on or off, but it seems to have vanished... I have also looked in ipod settings can find nothing relevant. It was not doing this 3 days ago. The phone is mostly full, w/about 2.5 gigs music, 65 apps 1.3 gigs free space. I updated about 18 apps yesterday, but I don't know if this was the culprit... none of the apps were concerned with music, mostly games. Am I going to have to start deleting apps till I find the problem, like searching for extension conflicts in classic OS??? The phone was a refurb I got from ATT 2 years ago. I know this is not an imac issue but From 12 years on various LEM forums I know what a vast knowledge base I am in the presence of... Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 4/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/wifi, iPhone 3g - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: air print
I too prefer Printopia, although it is a $10 application. I print to a 5 year old Brother and a year old Epson Stylus. However I also admit that I don't print much from my iPhone. (Don't have an iPad.) It also prints to PDF and to Dropbox. Lynn See the InfoManager blog at http://www.ugnn.com/ On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Any one out there had any experience with any of the printers Apple recommends on their website for using this tech??? I have looked at them, none is rated more than 3 out of 5 stars... reviews are full of people who have had these printers a few days who are happy, but as time goes on, the experience seems to sour. I have a Macbook Pro, an iPad, 2 iPhones the iMac I am writing on, all connected wirelessly via the Clear modem my isp sent me, would like to be able to print. Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 4/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/wifi, iPhone 3g - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: air print
I mainly use Printopia's Send to Mac option to quickly get photos, etc. to my iMac. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Sent via my GMail webmail On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 18:15, Lynn Wegley lyn...@gmail.com wrote: I too prefer Printopia, although it is a $10 application. I print to a 5 year old Brother and a year old Epson Stylus. However I also admit that I don't print much from my iPhone. (Don't have an iPad.) It also prints to PDF and to Dropbox. Lynn See the InfoManager blog at http://www.ugnn.com/ On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Any one out there had any experience with any of the printers Apple recommends on their website for using this tech??? I have looked at them, none is rated more than 3 out of 5 stars... reviews are full of people who have had these printers a few days who are happy, but as time goes on, the experience seems to sour. I have a Macbook Pro, an iPad, 2 iPhones the iMac I am writing on, all connected wirelessly via the Clear modem my isp sent me, would like to be able to print. Ben Kernan: 24I-Mac 4/2.8/700, graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPad 2/64/wifi, iPhone 3g - Dedicated Mac user since 1990 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: upgrade HD for g3
On Saturday, 17 December 2011 at 16:36, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/12/16 21:36, Dennis Faulkner so eloquently wrote: As somewhat of a novice, what would too hot for Imac's mean - would that mean that you would need to upgrade the fan further, or house this drive in a external housing, or what? The Al plate that the boards are mounted to in the G3 iMacs acts as a giant heat sink and conducts the heat away from the CPU, then the heat is dispersed by passive convection (no fan). So any additional heat generated beyond what it was designed to handle can be hard to dissipate, though it's probably not much of an issue unless it is operating in a warm environment, running at 100% or doesn't have much air movement around it. Tina -- Modern drives probably run a bit cooler than older ones too, even if they're a higher rpm, I put a 7200rpm seagate drive in my nan's iMac a while ago and it's been fine since. But, external firewire drive-no internal bus size limit (or hacks to get around it), no surgery required, easy to replace/upgrade in the future. Firewire might be faster than the internal at a bus anyway, it'll only be ata-66, right? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On 16/12/11 11:12 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: A triple today... 1) Found at MS's support website. This was accessed with Safari, unmodified. [Read it in your best Darth Vader impression]: I find your lack of competence...disturbinghttp://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/competence_not.png This is a great post to start the week with...LOL. Bruce, how are you able to capture a screen shot, highlight an area and then make notes on it? Cheers -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On 16/12/11 12:54 PM, Dan wrote: Next up: To discourage Vicky from camping out on my desk and rubbing on the keyboard. sigh. Can't use the 'ole squirt gun trick -- she *likes* water. - Dan. If she can move a wireless keyboard, that may do it because as she rubs, it moves, and the she'd have something to think about...and maybe move on. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On 16/12/11 1:15 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Better than the BSODs related to just turning on Windows...or the random I'm going to install updates even though you disabled me!. This happened recently at work, we're sitting there watching a screen cast and it turns itself off and rebooted. And I thought, wow! Who makes an OS that has not sense to see that it's been used and not to turn itself off. I've never used Win7, so I did not know about this problem until about a week ago. If you need Win, used xp. I'd say 2000, but xp is an acceptable gloss of 2000. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: air print
On Dec 15, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Any one out there had any experience with any of the printers Apple recommends on their website for using this tech??? I have looked at them, none is rated more than 3 out of 5 stars... reviews are full of people who have had these printers a few days who are happy, but as time goes on, the experience seems to sour. I have a Macbook Pro, an iPad, 2 iPhones the iMac I am writing on, all connected wirelessly via the Clear modem my isp sent me, would like to be able to print. Get any printer you want, connect it to the iMac, and use this to make it Air-printable: http://netputing.com/airprintactivator/airprint-activator-v2-0/ I've printed to my 1994-era LaserJet4M with my iPad this way... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 16/12/11 11:12 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: A triple today... 1) Found at MS's support website. This was accessed with Safari, unmodified. [Read it in your best Darth Vader impression]: I find your lack of competence...disturbinghttp://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/competence_not.png This is a great post to start the week with...LOL. Bruce, how are you able to capture a screen shot, highlight an area and then make notes on it? My screenshots are always taken with the built in command-shift-4 shortcut, which is the freeform screen capture mode (hint: tapping the space bar while the camera is over a window automagically selects that window). Then I use the annotation tools in Preview (which are 10.6+ only, I think, sadly) or Graphic Converter to do the annotations on the png. I do this all the time for support reasons because a picture is worth endless text and less open to interpretation. Grab (in the utilties folder) might let you do the same thing. There's also a FUSE file system for screen captures, so you have a directory of images of open windows at all times, but I cannot recall it's name right now. Quicktime X in 10.6+ also allows you to take screen movies, which is awesome. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: air print
Printopia http://www.ecamm.com/mac/printopia/ On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 07:26, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.eduwrote: On Dec 15, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Any one out there had any experience with any of the printers Apple recommends on their website for using this tech??? I have looked at them, none is rated more than 3 out of 5 stars... reviews are full of people who have had these printers a few days who are happy, but as time goes on, the experience seems to sour. I have a Macbook Pro, an iPad, 2 iPhones the iMac I am writing on, all connected wirelessly via the Clear modem my isp sent me, would like to be able to print. Get any printer you want, connect it to the iMac, and use this to make it Air-printable: http://netputing.com/airprintactivator/airprint-activator-v2-0/ I've printed to my 1994-era LaserJet4M with my iPad this way... http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Sent via my GMail webmail -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:37 AM -0700 12/22/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: [after taking a snapshot] I use the annotation tools in Preview (which are 10.6+ only, I think, sadly) or Graphic Converter to do the annotations on the png. I do this all the time for support reasons because a picture is worth endless text and less open to interpretation. yea. Pictures work great. Make that dialog look like this! Didn't the old Mac OS have a help thingy that would open preferences and such, then interactively draw a circle around the item it wanted you to check? yes it did, this was part of the help system that was really cool. I remembered the MacFUSE filesystem for screenshots, it's called GrabFS: http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter11/grabfs/ Get in the downloads section. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dan wrote: Oh no... Things that move are even MORE interesting. And if they dare make any sort of crinkling noise -- it's HERS forever. Celephane envelopes, plastic wrappers on double-bottles from BJs, etc. Our old orange tabby Buckethead would play fetch with a balled-up cellophane wrapper from a cigarette packhttp://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/bucket.html -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Replacing the HD
On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:51:29 AM UTC-5, Dan wrote: ...To be honest, farking inside an iMac is such a PITA, I've often told people to just boot/live off a chain of external firewire drives and let the internal spin down. This makes good sense to me. So to be certain I'm following you, a bootable external drive: - Requires a Firewire connection, not USB (will FW 400 work? I don't think the machine does 800.) - Requires being formatted a certain way (which I saw in the Help files last night but I forget right now what the acronym is) Right? Anything else for this part? Next, 1. CCC to your an external. 2. Boot on the external - to make sure its fully functional. I take it I'd zero the internal at this point, and somehow set things up so the machine boots automatically from the external. Will this happen automatically if the internal has been zeroed, or do I need to do something specific to boot from the external automatically? These next steps from Dan are now moot if I'm booting from the external (except #3): 1. Do yer HD replacement. 2. Boot on the external. 3. Use Disk Utility to zero and initialize your new internal. 4. CCC into the new internal. What about the following: - Does CCC take all partitions of the internal and put them on the external or do I need to do that some other way? Unfortunately, I have to retain Tiger for the time being for one app that's too old for Lion, so I have a very small partition for that. - I plan to set up Time Machine on another external drive...will this setup be OK for that? (And by the way, does Time Machine do OK going onto a USB external or not?) Again, many thanks! Bill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
At 11:12 AM -0700 12/22/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: Our old orange tabby Buckethead would play fetch with a balled-up cellophane wrapper from a cigarette pack. [url] Pretty cat! Vicky plays fetch with balled-up crinkly things too! I've never seen a cat do that before! Frieda just watches; she's too aloof to participate in such a silly activity. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Replacing the HD
At 10:27 AM -0800 12/22/2011, Bill Spencer wrote: On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:51:29 AM UTC-5, Dan wrote: ...To be honest, farking inside an iMac is such a PITA, I've often told people to just boot/live off a chain of external firewire drives and let the internal spin down. This makes good sense to me. So to be certain I'm following you, a bootable external drive: Requires a Firewire connection, not USB yea. Even machines that can boot USB, I don't recommend it - gratingly slow. (will FW 400 work? I don't think the machine does 800.) yes. Requires being formatted a certain way (which I saw in the Help files last night but I forget right now what the acronym is) Since you're running the more recent versions of OS X, on an x86 Mac, you should be using GUID. Right? Anything else for this part? Next, 1. CCC to your an external. 2. Boot on the external - to make sure its fully functional. I take it I'd zero the internal at this point, and somehow set things up so the machine boots automatically from the external. Will this happen automatically if the internal has been zeroed, or do I need to do something specific to boot from the external automatically? You can pick the boot volume from the system preferences. If you don't, then the bootstrap will do the normal searching, taking its time checking one device after another. Does CCC take all partitions of the internal and put them on the external or do I need to do that some other way? CCC only does one volume at a time. Use Disk Utility to create what you want on the destination then CCC each, to populate them. I plan to set up Time Machine on another external drive...will this setup be OK for that? (And by the way, does Time Machine do OK going onto a USB external or not?) That's fine. Just remember that TM gets confused easily and corrupts itself easily. So it does NOT replace a normal backup made with CCC. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: your daily dose of 'Arrrrrgggghhhh' from the support trenches...
On 2011/12/22 08:37, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: Quicktime X in 10.6+ also allows you to take screen movies, which is awesome. Fantastic tip, thanks for sharing. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
