date:20080616


Allen,

In general, I would not disagree, however, re "Mr, Miss, Mrs, Ms" I happen to 
believe the convention to be wrong - full stop, period, end of story :-). Maybe 
I am a bit like the man who saw the car indicating it was turning, stepped onto 
the road, and died shouting "I was in the right".

Interesting Legacy does give some acknowledgement that the non-use of these 
titles is not universal, in that when downloading strings from Family Search it 
strips them out!


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:13:25 -0400
>
> Personally...
>
> I -LOVE- this feature... but I have been described as being "Anal" by some I
> share research with.
>
> I like to have everything properly formatted in it's proper place. That's
> why I prefer to hand key in all new information rather than import someone's
> sloppy work from a shared Gedcom. When I do ordinance lookups on
> familysearch I often merge a bunch of sloppiness into my file. This is an
> AWESOME feature for me.
>
> Allen
>
> --
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:38 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization
>
>>
>> Keith,
>>
>> I did, a long time ago!
>>
>> Options>Customise>Other>Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages>Messages
>> and uncheck the bottom two boxes.
>>
>> I would have been screaming from the rooftops by now if I hadn't found
>> it!!!
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Darlene & Don Hicks

   I have a Dell desktop Dimension with Windows XP 2002 service pack 2.  I had 
service pack 3 and had to delete it.  My Internet provider is IE 6.  I still 
can't get to the images.  I deleted all of my .ocx files and ative x files, as 
well.  Now when I go to Ancestry.com I do not click on the enhanced viewer, but 
the screen freezes the moment I click on basic viewer.  I have searched all 
over the Internet, on Rootsweb and Ancestry and tried all the suggestions, even 
ones on this list, to no avail!  I am feeling pretty hopeless, here!  If I 
can't get the images, I will not renew my subscription with Ancestry!  I have 
wasted a lot of time already!

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
> concerning Ancestry.com!
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 6:48 PM
> If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if
> you state the brand of processor (intel or amd), the
> operating system (XP or Vista) and what service pack you
> are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based
> computer with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and
> it is not the fault of the user.  It is also worth
> mentioning which browser and version.
>  
> Mark
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG]
> Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning
> Ancestry.com!Got this announcement when I finished the
> email"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be
> preventing viewing original records"
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darlene,I am having problems as well. I have not done
> anything to my computer and tried both browsers IE 7 and
> Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry about the
> problem.Christina
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks
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> computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I
> had two viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a
> day and so the techs reinstalled Windows and I have service
> pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, at Ancestry.com,
> last evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when
> I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360
> is up and running and I have no threats.  I went into
> Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it made no change
> in my access to images.  There are probably more files
> hidden.  Can someone please give me a heads up on what
> could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year with
> Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census images is
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Kris

The "Wayback Machine" isn't a reliable repository -- only a small 
fraction of what is/was available on the internet is archived there and 
generally graphics files aren't saved.


A complete URL is useless if the information isn't there anymore.  The 
date it was accessed doesn't mean anything, either, if the URL isn't any 
good.  The current upheaval at Rootsweb is a good example -- about half 
of the links I've tried lately don't work -- between Ancestry's changes 
and people moving the sites to other hosts, but not updating links, it's 
a huge mess.


Using the URL of an Ancestry image -- whether it's a census image or 
anything else -- is useless to someone who doesn't have a subscription.


An online image, with few exceptions, came from somewhere -- a book, 
microfilm, etc. -- and you *can* go to the original to find it.  A 
database, on the other hand, isn't really a source, it's a finding aid.


Including the date a URL was accessed doesn't really mean anything -- 
other than the that the web page "worked" on that day.


Patti Hobbs wrote:
I'm not sure what your point is, Elizabeth.  There is a difference. 
Online sources can be hard to find--especially with transcription errors 
by enumerators or by those creating databases. It's not always easy to 
find, just by searching on the person's name, the specific census 
image.  So, imo, it is better to put a complete url for the digital 
image. However, the location of an online image does not correspond to a 
book on a library shelf or even a document in a record book in a 
courthouse.   With the specific citation information for  a book or a 
courthouse record, we can go in and go right to the original. The 
"citation" information doesn't change in those record types; their 
locations don't generally change.  BUT that's not true of internet 
urls.  They can change. So it would be comparable to a book having its 
dewey decimal number changed and being moved to another shelf on the 
library.  If you have a date that a url was accessed you can use a "way 
back machine" http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html to 
access an archived edition of the page.


Patti


On Jun 16, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Elizabeth Richardson wrote:

Well, if we are to take from the recommendations of the online book, 
then the location of the online image is just a repository, nothing 
more. Does the date I went to the library mean anything? Probably not.


Elizabeth
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Re: [LegacyUG] Standardization


Personally...

I -LOVE- this feature... but I have been described as being "Anal" by some I 
share research with.


I like to have everything properly formatted in it's proper place.  That's 
why I prefer to hand key in all new information rather than import someone's 
sloppy work from a shared Gedcom.  When I do ordinance lookups on 
familysearch I often merge a bunch of sloppiness into my file.  This is an 
AWESOME feature for me.


Allen

--
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:38 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization



Keith,

I did, a long time ago!

Options>Customise>Other>Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages>Messages 
and uncheck the bottom two boxes.


I would have been screaming from the rooftops by now if I hadn't found 
it!!!



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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:46:58 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Standardization

Is there a way to TURN OFF the warning about not having a period after
an initial? Ron - I bet you wish you could do it for the Mr, Miss,
etc. That new feature is a bit over the top for some things -
especially on editing something on a person's screen - when you go to
save a minor correction.

Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Standardization


Keith,

I did, a long time ago!

Options>Customise>Other>Turn on or off Optional Reminder Messages>Messages and 
uncheck the bottom two boxes.

I would have been screaming from the rooftops by now if I hadn't found it!!!


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:46:58 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Standardization
>
> Is there a way to TURN OFF the warning about not having a period after
> an initial? Ron - I bet you wish you could do it for the Mr, Miss,
> etc. That new feature is a bit over the top for some things -
> especially on editing something on a person's screen - when you go to
> save a minor correction.
>
> Keith
>
> --
> Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Patti Hobbs

I'm not sure what your point is, Elizabeth.  There is a difference.  
Online sources can be hard to find--especially with transcription  
errors by enumerators or by those creating databases. It's not always  
easy to find, just by searching on the person's name, the specific  
census image.  So, imo, it is better to put a complete url for the  
digital image. However, the location of an online image does not  
correspond to a book on a library shelf or even a document in a record  
book in a courthouse.   With the specific citation information for  a  
book or a courthouse record, we can go in and go right to the  
original. The "citation" information doesn't change in those record  
types; their locations don't generally change.  BUT that's not true of  
internet urls.  They can change. So it would be comparable to a book  
having its dewey decimal number changed and being moved to another  
shelf on the library.  If you have a date that a url was accessed you  
can use a "way back machine" http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html 
 to access an archived edition of the page.

Patti

On Jun 16, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Elizabeth Richardson wrote:

Well, if we are to take from the recommendations of the online book,  
then the location of the online image is just a repository, nothing  
more. Does the date I went to the library mean anything? Probably not.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: "Patti Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census  
Entries - for Geoff

Depending on how detailed your link is, it tells you when that   
particular link was good.  One thing I have found that I like to do  
is  after I've searched on the name, etc. to get to a census, I  
will then,  in another browser window, follow the path from year,  
state, township,  page number to get to the most basic url for that  
image and use that  for my citations--all two of them or so that  
I've done so far.:-)

Patti
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:55 PM, GeoSci wrote:

And this is one of the things about EE and Sourcewriter that I  
have a
problem with.  Why would one need an Access date for a federal  
census

- it will never change?!?  I can see (to a point) why one might want
to know if it was viewed on Ancestry.com or Heritage Quest, etc.  
since

some are clearer on one repository than another - but why the access
date??

Probably my strange way of thinking.

Keith

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Gail,

You are not going crazy.

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before   
going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier  
message,  I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an   
"accessed" date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed  
something in

the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census  
entry (Federal,

at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the   
meantime, I am

using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of   
Gail Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census   
Entries - for

Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template  
(when I

select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule  
> 4)

online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is   
part of the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the  
information  for the

Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf  
Of  Gail

Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census   
Entries -

for

Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com,   
wouldn't I

want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it

[LegacyUG] Standardization

Is there a way to TURN OFF the warning about not having a period after
an initial?  Ron - I bet you wish you could do it for the Mr, Miss,
etc.  That new feature is a bit over the top for some things -
especially on editing something on a person's screen - when you go to
save a minor correction.

Keith

-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread Gary Templeman



- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Carneal USA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if you 
have 100s or 1,000s of locations to convert, it is trying to do conversion 
for that many!


Robert


After opening the Legacy database in Access, someone more clever than me 
should be able to figure out how to use these instructions ( 
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Using-MS-Access-1440/2008/4/convert-decimal-latitude-longitude.htm ) 
to convert an entire goup of decimal coordinates.


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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Elizabeth Richardson

Well, if we are to take from the recommendations of the online book, then 
the location of the online image is just a repository, nothing more. Does 
the date I went to the library mean anything? Probably not.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Patti Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for 
Geoff



Depending on how detailed your link is, it tells you when that  particular 
link was good.  One thing I have found that I like to do is  after I've 
searched on the name, etc. to get to a census, I will then,  in another 
browser window, follow the path from year, state, township,  page number 
to get to the most basic url for that image and use that  for my 
citations--all two of them or so that I've done so far.:-)


Patti
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:55 PM, GeoSci wrote:


And this is one of the things about EE and Sourcewriter that I have a
problem with.  Why would one need an Access date for a federal census
- it will never change?!?  I can see (to a point) why one might want
to know if it was viewed on Ancestry.com or Heritage Quest, etc. since
some are clearer on one repository than another - but why the access
date??

Probably my strange way of thinking.

Keith

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Gail,

You are not going crazy.

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before  going 
to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message,  I 
did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an  "accessed" 
date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed 
something in

the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry 
(Federal,

at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the  meantime, 
I am

using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  Gail 
Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census 
 Entries - for

Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is  part of 
the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information  for 
the

Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  Gail

Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census 
 Entries -

for

Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com,  wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Patti Hobbs

Depending on how detailed your link is, it tells you when that  
particular link was good.  One thing I have found that I like to do is  
after I've searched on the name, etc. to get to a census, I will then,  
in another browser window, follow the path from year, state, township,  
page number to get to the most basic url for that image and use that  
for my citations--all two of them or so that I've done so far.:-)


Patti
On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:55 PM, GeoSci wrote:


And this is one of the things about EE and Sourcewriter that I have a
problem with.  Why would one need an Access date for a federal census
- it will never change?!?  I can see (to a point) why one might want
to know if it was viewed on Ancestry.com or Heritage Quest, etc. since
some are clearer on one repository than another - but why the access
date??

Probably my strange way of thinking.

Keith

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Gail,

You are not going crazy.

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before  
going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message,  
I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an  
"accessed" date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed  
something in

the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry  
(Federal,

at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the  
meantime, I am

using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
Gail Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census  
Entries - for

Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is  
part of the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information  
for the

Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
Gail

Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census  
Entries -

for

Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com,  
wouldn't I

want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Kirsten Bowman

Geoff:

I second Gail's request.  Tips about converting sources (while waiting for
the tool) would certainly be welcome.

Kirsten

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
for Geoff


Thanks Dave!  Man, I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
totally missed the scroll bar on my detail screen!  Now it works
perfectly!!  It's really too bad the fields can't all fit on one page
because I'll bet you that more people than just me are going to
overlook this too.  It might be worth it to try to reformat this a
little in a future update.

Geoff, I apologize for taking up so much of your time on this because
I know you are very busy with other stuff right now.  I think we will
all really appreciate the hard work you have put into this source
writer once we get used to using the input fields.

I still would love it if you could share with us some of the practices
you have used in converting your sources over.  Do you update a single
census master source for a single county and then convert all the
detail associated with that new source, or do you work through all the
master sources first and then work through the myriad details attached
to them?  This is just something that I'm sure would benefit many of
us.  You could sort of bring us along on your learning curve.

Anyway, I can now go to sleep and dream about tomorrow's task ahead of
me in converting at least some of my census sources.  The output looks
good to me now!


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net






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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

This is the one I have selected:

Census Records > United States > Federal census records > 1850
population schedule > Online images

Step 2: fill in the master source

Step 3's fields:

Jurisdiction city
Roll
Page
Dwelling no
Family no
ID of person
Date Accessed (must click once on the down arrow to get to this)

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
> Master Source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
for
> Geoff
>
> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
> template to provide the accessed date.
>
> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>
> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
> Schedule: population schedule
> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
> Item Type or Format: digital image
> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>
> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
> preview for the footnote.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
> have described?
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Thanks Dave!  Man, I know it's getting pretty late bacause I just
totally missed the scroll bar on my detail screen!  Now it works
perfectly!!  It's really too bad the fields can't all fit on one page
because I'll bet you that more people than just me are going to
overlook this too.  It might be worth it to try to reformat this a
little in a future update.

Geoff, I apologize for taking up so much of your time on this because
I know you are very busy with other stuff right now.  I think we will
all really appreciate the hard work you have put into this source
writer once we get used to using the input fields.

I still would love it if you could share with us some of the practices
you have used in converting your sources over.  Do you update a single
census master source for a single county and then convert all the
detail associated with that new source, or do you work through all the
master sources first and then work through the myriad details attached
to them?  This is just something that I'm sure would benefit many of
us.  You could sort of bring us along on your learning curve.

Anyway, I can now go to sleep and dream about tomorrow's task ahead of
me in converting at least some of my census sources.  The output looks
good to me now!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:42 PM, david <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Scroll down and it's there.  See Geoff's right hand red arrow in the
> screenshot
>
>  Regards,
>   Dave (NZ).
>
>
> 
> From: Janis Gilmore
> Sent: Tue 17/06/2008 14:34
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Gail,
> You are not going crazy.
> I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
> IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
> remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" date,
> but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something in
> the census entry.
> But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry (Federal,
> at any rate).
> I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I am
> using the usual work-arounds.
> Janis Walker Gilmore
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
> OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
> different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
> different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
> select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
> States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
> online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.
> Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
> Jurisdiction City
> Roll
> Page
> Dwelling No.
> Family No.
> ID of Person
> Surety Level
> Recorded Date
> File ID
> Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator

2008-06-16 Thread Trippsibs5

Same for Ver 6 Deluxe. 
That is, the part you wrote about the non-relationships displaying only up to 
in-laws and spouse of aunt or uncle. Jane Tripp

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:37:57 +1000
Relationship Calculator and Tools> Set Relationship both work, very quickly - 
with approx. 8500 individuals. However, non-blood relationships do not display 
on the Family View for more than two generations, regardless of how many 
generations I have selected to display. For example, I can only get as far as 
Father-in-Law and Mother-in-Law, Brother-in-Law and Sister-in-Law - what 
happened to husband's niece or niece-in-law etc.

Cheers,
Jan

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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

And this is one of the things about EE and Sourcewriter that I have a
problem with.  Why would one need an Access date for a federal census
- it will never change?!?  I can see (to a point) why one might want
to know if it was viewed on Ancestry.com or Heritage Quest, etc. since
some are clearer on one repository than another - but why the access
date??

Probably my strange way of thinking.

Keith

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Janis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> You are not going crazy.
>
> I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
> IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
> remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" date,
> but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something in
> the census entry.
>
> But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry (Federal,
> at any rate).
>
> I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I am
> using the usual work-arounds.
>
> Janis Walker Gilmore
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
> different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
> different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
> select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
> States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
> online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.
>
> Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
> Jurisdiction City
> Roll
> Page
> Dwelling No.
> Family No.
> ID of Person
> Surety Level
> Recorded Date
> File ID
>
> Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?
>
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gail,
>>
>> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
>> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
>> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
>> Master Source.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geoff Rasmussen
>> Millennia Corporation
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
> Nestor
>> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
> for
>> Geoff
>>
>> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
>> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
>> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
>> template to provide the accessed date.
>>
>> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
>> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>>
>> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
>> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
>> Schedule: population schedule
>> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
>> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
>> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
>> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
>> Item Type or Format: digital image
>> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
>> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
>> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
>> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>>
>> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
>> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
>> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
>> preview for the footnote.
>>
>> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
>> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
>> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
>> have described?
>>
>> Gail Rich Nestor
>> Smyrna, Georgia
>> www.roots2buds.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Bill Bienia

The "accessed date" field is in the Citation Details portion since it will
change for each citation. However, Legacy inserts the accessed date
information into the same parentheses as the URL. Neat.

Bill 

Bill Bienia, PLCGS 
www.CobblestoneLegacies.com 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: 16-Jun-08 10:34 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Gail, 

You are not going crazy. 

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something in
the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry (Federal,
at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I am
using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
> Master Source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
for
> Geoff
>
> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
> template to provide the accessed date.
>
> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>
> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
> Schedule: population schedule
> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
> Item Type or Format: digital image
> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>
> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
> preview for the footnote.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
> have described?
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Linda McCauley

Gail,
Look to the right of the data entry fields for
Jurisdiction, Roll, Page, etc.  There should be a
scroll bar.  Click on the bottom of the scroll bar and
"Date Accessed" will appear.

(At least it does for me.)

--- Gail Nestor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you
> are selecting a
> different master source type or somehow you are in
> possession of a
> different/better version of this same template.  My
> template (when I
> select census records as the source type, followed
> by > 1) United
> States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850
> population schedule > 4)
> online images) for the master source pops up and I
> fill it in.
> 
> Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
> Jurisdiction City
> Roll
> Page
> Dwelling No.
> Family No.
> ID of Person
> Surety Level
> Recorded Date
> File ID
> 
> Am I going crazy here or am I missing something
> obvious?
> 
> 
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net




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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Thomas Herson


Gail and Others,

In Step 3 of the 1850 Federal Census template you have to scroll down...The 
box where you can enter the Accessed Date IS there.


Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY

- Original Message - 
From: "Janis Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for 
Geoff




Gail,

You are not going crazy.

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" 
date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something 
in

the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry 
(Federal,

at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I 
am

using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail 
Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - 
for

Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of 
the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for 
the

Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail

Nestor

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -

for

Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread david

  Scroll down and it's there.  See Geoff's right hand red arrow in the 
screenshot

 Regards,
  Dave (NZ).





From: Janis Gilmore
Sent: Tue 17/06/2008 14:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for 
Geoff


Gail, 

You are not going crazy. 

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something in
the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry (Federal,
at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I am
using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

2008-06-16 Thread Janis Gilmore

Gail, 

You are not going crazy. 

I have had so little time to play with this - just got v7 before going to
IGHR, and am now on a family trip. When I saw your earlier message, I did
remember that some other source that I entered DID have an "accessed" date,
but I had to scroll down to it. I thought perhaps I had missed something in
the census entry.

But no. There is not an "accessed" date available for census entry (Federal,
at any rate).

I'm sure this is an oversight which will be corrected. In the meantime, I am
using the usual work-arounds.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
> Master Source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries -
for
> Geoff
>
> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
> template to provide the accessed date.
>
> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>
> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
> Schedule: population schedule
> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
> Item Type or Format: digital image
> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>
> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
> preview for the footnote.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
> have described?
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

OK, now I think I see the issue here.  Either you are selecting a
different master source type or somehow you are in possession of a
different/better version of this same template.  My template (when I
select census records as the source type, followed by > 1) United
States > 2) Federal Census Records > 3) 1850 population schedule > 4)
online images) for the master source pops up and I fill it in.

Then, my Step 3: Add Source Detail screen reads:
Jurisdiction City
Roll
Page
Dwelling No.
Family No.
ID of Person
Surety Level
Recorded Date
File ID

Am I going crazy here or am I missing something obvious?


Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
> http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
> source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
> Master Source.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
> want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
> There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
> template to provide the accessed date.
>
> The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
> 240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:
>
> Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
> Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
> Schedule: population schedule
> Civil Division: Lake Prairie
> Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
> Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
> Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
> Item Type or Format: digital image
> Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
> URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
> Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
> Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187
>
> Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
> date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
> field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
> preview for the footnote.
>
> Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
> to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
> the source type list to select a different template than the one I
> have described?
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] RE:

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K

If you right click on an empty area of the pedigree view there is an option 
"show spouse/child and sibling lists".
 
Mark


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hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7 
manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if this question has 
already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone if it has   
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does not look 
like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then the ancestral lines 
to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not there, it would be great to 
see spouses and the vital stats for the person.
 
Thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Bernier

Right click in an empty area on the left side of the screen.  You can add the 
spouse and siblings boxes.

Ron Bernier
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:42 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree View

Shelly said:
hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the
Legacy 7 manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if
this question has already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone
if it has Smiley emoticon
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does
not look like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then
the ancestral lines to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not
there, it would be great to see spouses and the vital stats for the
person.

Thanks
Shelly

*
Shelly,

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bit hyper about sending .gifs

Interesting find you made!  I only have what you describe - I never
looked at what they say SHOULD be there and see no way to easily turn
it on - hopefully someone will have a clue!  Wonder what else I am
missing! :-)

Keith


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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Gail,

I've created a screenshot for you to review. Look at the image at
http://www.millenniacorp.com/Geoff/1850.jpg. Note that this is part of the
source detail, meaning, the screen after you enter the information for the
Master Source.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net





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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

2008-06-16 Thread Clancy

For V7 use this URL:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp

Nothing about anything fixed, just basic release

Clancy

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

Normally in the past Legacy has maintained a SUMMARY list of fixes for
end-users.  See this link for v6 info:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory6.asp
Nothing detailed or high-tech, but at least gives end users an idea of the main
items updated.

But on ver 7 they haven't done many updates and I'm guessing those updates have
been either very basic or very "behind the scenes" stuff that isn't worth
detailing for a "typical" end-user, or they've just been too darned busy with
orders, shipping, logging info, working on tweaks, etc to generate a user
friendly list.

In any event:
1) Go to the LEGACY HOME tab within the Legacy program
2) Look for the UPDATES box on the right edge
3) Click on the word UPDATES - a dialogue box pops up
4) In that dialogue box is a link for "See What's New"
5) This takes you to the web for the info.  But, as I said above, right now
there isn't any detail.  But you can look at the version 6 link (above) for an
idea of how/what they normally report.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: Mark K 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45

Makes sense.  I was hoping for a "versions" file of some description that
details what the update fixes.

Mark

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> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:58 +1200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45
>
> It is not "normal" for updates within a version to be announced. They
> are made available, and you can then download them when you become aware
> of them. Your Legacy program will check for updates automatically every
> 30 days and alert you to any waiting.
>
> You can go to the Home tab to see what your installed version is, and
> what the latest available version is, and download any new one waiting.
> See "Update, Legacy" in the index of the Help System.
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy Howard
> --
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> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* "Randolph Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> *Sent:* 06/14/2008 3:45:23 AM +1200
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 update from 7.0.0.41 to 7.0.0.45
>
>
> > Where is it?
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> If I missed this in the mailing list I apologise but has anyone noticed
that
> >> there has been an update for legacy 7. This is not legacy 6 to 7, but for
> >> 7.
> >>
> >> I have not seen this mentioned on their website and can not find any
details
> >> of what has changed.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else noticed this?
> >>
> >> Mark
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Well, if I found the 1850 census *online* at Ancestry.com, wouldn't I
want/need to provide an accessed date for when I found it online?
There is no place in Legacy within the 1850 US Census (found online)
template to provide the accessed date.

The EE template for the 1850 US census found online is found on page
240 of EE.  The fields shown are as follows:

Census ID: 1850 U. S. Census
Jurisdiction: Marion County, Iowa
Schedule: population schedule
Civil Division: Lake Prairie
Page ID: p. 290 (stamped)
Household ID: dwelling 151, family 156
Person(s): Virgil W. and Wyatt B. Earp
Item Type or Format: digital image
Website Title: Ancestry.com [in italics]
URL (Digital Location): http://www.ancestry.com
Accessed Date: accessed 16 January 2006
Credit Line: citing NARA microfilm publication M432, roll 187

Legacy's template for an online census does not contain an "accessed
date" field as required above.  It only provides a "publish date"
field, which, unfortunately, does not appear on Legacy's output
preview for the footnote.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean when you say that you have
to scroll down for it.  Are you talking about scrolling down through
the source type list to select a different template than the one I
have described?

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> The Recorded Date field is just a field where some people will type in the
> date that they either added the source. I've never used it. The Date
> Accessed field is in the templates for the online sources. To see it you
> might have to scroll down in the list a bit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:56 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Hi Geoff, now I'm a little confused.  On the Master Source Definition
> tab for a census, I see a "publish date" field and I see a "recorded
> date" field down at the botton of the screen in the gray part.
>
> I see that when I type something in the "publish date" field, it shows
> up in the bibliography output (and not beside the accessed date in the
> footnote).  When I type something into the "recorded date" on this
> same screen, it does not seem to affect the output in either place.
>
>
> Now moving on to the source detail screen...
> When I click to edit the source detail, I see a place to enter a
> "recorded" date there as well.  However, this too, seems to have no
> effect on the footnote or bibliography output.
>
> I do not see a "date accessed" field at all on any of the screens.  I
> am specifically looking at a 1920 US Census template.  Maybe it is on
> the others?
>
> Thanks for any explanations to help clear this up for me!
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gail,
>>
>> The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may
> be
>> confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
>> publish date should be the date when the database was published.
>>
>> I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
>> doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geoff Rasmussen
>> Millennia Corporation
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
> Nestor
>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
>> Geoff
>>
>> Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
>> writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
>> EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
>> to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
>> one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
>> before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
>> see what the future plans might be.
>>
>> It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
>> input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
>> level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
>> (like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
>> census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
>> spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
>> parentheses.
>>
>> The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
>> order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
>> sure why we could not give the user the ch

[LegacyUG] Pedigree View

Shelly said:
hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the
Legacy 7 manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if
this question has already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone
if it has Smiley emoticon
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does
not look like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then
the ancestral lines to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not
there, it would be great to see spouses and the vital stats for the
person.

Thanks
Shelly

*
Shelly,

Smilies are not allowed except as in TEXT form - some here will get a
bit hyper about sending .gifs

Interesting find you made!  I only have what you describe - I never
looked at what they say SHOULD be there and see no way to easily turn
it on - hopefully someone will have a clue!  Wonder what else I am
missing! :-)

Keith


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[LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

2008-06-16 Thread Wendy Howard


Hi Shelly,

There are options available, which you can turn on and off as you 
please.  Right-click on the background of the Pedigree View (you'll know 
you're in the right place, 'cos at the bottom left of your window it 
will say "Right click for Options Menu") and select the options you want.


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*Sent:* 06/17/2008 1:19:51 PM +1200
*Subject:* [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)


hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the 
Legacy 7 manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if 
this question has already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone 
if it has Smiley emoticon 
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does 
not look like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then 
the ancestral lines to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not 
there, it would be great to see spouses and the vital stats for the 
person.
 
Thanks

Shelly




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[LegacyUG] RE:

2008-06-16 Thread Clancy

Right Click on the background and select show spouse/child and siblings list
Clancy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject:

hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7
manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if this question has
already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone if it has Smiley emoticon
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does not look
like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then the ancestral lines
to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not there, it would be great to
see spouses and the vital stats for the person.

Thanks
Shelly
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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup Problem with V7.0

2008-06-16 Thread GIDavidson

I also have had the same Error 91 and followed the support suggestions.  At
first I just did a file maintenance check/repair to clear the problem,
however, this was needed every time if did a backup.

I later did an export to legacy file to create a new file and cleared the
problem for several days; however, it has since come back

Windows XP with plenty of memory.  I am happy to know I am not alone.  Maybe
there is a support fix for this at a later date!


George


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Earnshaw
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Backup Problem with V7.0

Bill

The official Legacy answer is to go to the support pages and look at the
"errors by number". I've reported this problem twice and tried some of the
solutions offered on the support page. I've even changed computers and in
doing that gone from XP to Vista. But I still get the problem. Not every
time I do a backup, but frequently. It seems that the longer one has Legacy
open then the more likely you are to get Error 91. As you say, after
pressing the Quit button and re-entering Legacy it works perfectly.

As you see, the solutions offered talk about jet updates etc, and refer to
several operating systems and even say that if you have XP you don't need to
do that one. Well, I have Vista now and that operating system isn't even
mentioned!

After last reporting it I again got the stock answer from Sherry (despite
having said that I had tried the solutions offered on the support pages).
After replying I was then asked what task I was carrying out when it failed.
In case you are reading this Sherry (as you've not responded again), IT WAS
A BACKUP.

I'm sorry you have the problem as well as me, but pleased in as much as I
don't feel alone!

Jack



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Robinette
Sent: 10 June 2008 16:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup Problem with V7.0

After I recently updated to V7.0 I have a problem when trying to perform 
a backup.  After I have indicated where I want to do the backup and 
named it I click on the button to backup. Shortly after the backup 
process begins I receive the following error:

Error reading Individual.
Error 91: Object variable or With block variable not set
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

YesNoQuit  are the options I can select. The only one that ever 
works is to select Quit which then shuts Legacy down. After I reopen 
Legacy I try again to do a backup and it tells me that the backup 
already exists and do I want to overwrite it. I say yes and the backup 
proceeds without any apparent problems. This occurs ever time I attempt 
a backup.  I have tried repair database and have never had any errors or 
problems doing this. I have been to the support page and read about 
error 91 but see nothing in the description that refers to error 91 and 
backup. I don't really know what Object variable or With block variable 
not set means. Has anyone else experienced this or has any suggestions 
on how to resolve this?

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hey you all- I just purchased and received the PDF version of the Legacy 7 
manual-  here is my first question, and please forgive me if this question has 
already been asked-  wouldn't want to offend anyone if it has   
On page 14 it shows what the Pedigree view should look like, mine does not look 
like that, I only have the picture of the ancestor and then the ancestral lines 
to the fourth or fifth generation- the rest is not there, it would be great to 
see spouses and the vital stats for the person.

Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

I bad
  - Original Message - 
  From: ronald ferguson 
  To: 
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:34 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

  Michelle,

  For clarification, I did not say *all* AMD processors not did I say *all* 
Dell PC's. I did say that there is a known problem involving SP3 with Dell and 
AMD. Google will give exact details.

  Ron Ferguson

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!
  Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:01:11 -0500

  I have an AMD processor with SP3 on XP- AMT Turion 64- and never had any 
issues with viewing what is on Ancestry.

  - Original Message -

  From: Mark K

  To: 
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM

  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

  If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the 
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what 
service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based computer 
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the fault of the 
user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.

  Mark

  Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

  Got this announcement when I finished the email

  "Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original 
records"

  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Darlene,

  I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and 
tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry 
about the problem.

  Christina

  On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Hi
I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic 
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with 
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell 
desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had two 
viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs 
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, 
at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when I 
tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up and running and 
I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it 
made no change in my access to images.  There are probably more files hidden.  
Can someone please give me a heads up on what could be the problem?  I payed 
$300 for another year with Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census 
images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any and all
   help with this problem!

  Darlene
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View Biological Parent Not Showing

2008-06-16 Thread Cary Jay Vaughn

Thanks for all the help. There was something goofy with my linking. I 
unlinked the parents, so this individual was was not linked to any parent at 
all. But when I brought him up again in family view, the same parents 
including the wrong one was there! I finally just deleted him altogether and 
re-entered him. The view is fine now. Whew! I was pretty distressed thinking 
that I would forever have to guess whether the parents in family view were 
real parents!!


Thanks again.

From: david
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family View Biological Parent Not Showing


Cary,
I think I see what you mean. When you've got the child in question in the 
main Family View as, 'Wife'/'Female' or 'Husband'/'Male' then the parents 
shown above the child are the true father and wrong mother. This happens 
even when you have the true mother and father in the main view and click on 
the child.
I think you'll find you have the child linked to both couples. To fix it 
put the true father and wrong mother in Family View and right click on the 
child. Then click on "Unlink from Parents". If the child is even there in 
that view then they must be linked.


Regards,
 Dave (NZ)



- Original Message - 
From: Cary Jay Vaughn

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View Biological Parent Not Showing


Yes. I think you understand my dilemma/issue. Not to belabor the point, but 
I don't understand why this isn't an issue for others. I thought exactly the 
same thing as you have suggested. Consequently, I unlinked the parents and
relinked them to the correct ones. Still the same problem. Here is what I 
see:
In family view, the mother shown above is incorrect. I know he is linked to 
the correct parents because I can hover my mouse over the little 
"mother/father" icon and the correct parents appear. The mother just doesn't 
appear above making it look like his mother is someone other than who it 
actually is.


I think the computer ought to know this because the mother who is shown 
above (on top) is not connected to him in any way. When I am viewing his 
"family view" screen, there is no reason for this other woman ("parent") to 
appear at all. I mark a person as preferred because when I am viewing an
individual, that is the preferred SPOUSE. This should not be a factor in 
seeing one's real PARENT.


I think that whenever I am in family view, I will always have to have the 
question in my mind of whether I am viewing the actual parents?! I don't 
remember this being an issue in version 6 or maybe I just didn't notice.


Thanks for all your responses.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!


Michelle,

For clarification, I did not say *all* AMD processors not did I say *all* Dell 
PC's. I did say that there is a known problem involving SP3 with Dell and AMD. 
Google will give exact details.


Ron Ferguson

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Ancestry.com!
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:01:11 -0500






I have an AMD processor with SP3 on XP- AMT Turion 64- and never had any issues 
with viewing what is on Ancestry.




- Original Message -

From: Mark K

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning 
Ancestry.com!



If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the 
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what 
service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based computer 
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the fault of the 
user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.



Mark







Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning 
Ancestry.com!

Got this announcement when I finished the email

"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original 
records"


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Darlene,

I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and tried 
both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry about the 
problem.

Christina





On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi
  I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic updates 
on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with service 
pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell desktop 
computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had two viruses while 
I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs reinstalled Windows and 
I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, at Ancestry.com, last 
evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when I tried it today, it 
freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up and running and I have no threats. 
 I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it made no change in my 
access to images.  There are probably more files hidden.  Can someone please 
give me a heads up on what could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year 
with Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census images is a real bummer!  
Thanks for any and all
 help with this problem!

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Lewis, 1898-1963








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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

2008-06-16 Thread Claire Spinelli

Oops! I meant it prints correctly on my laptop and not on my DESLTOP.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claire
Spinelli
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

I've only entered two new sources using the sourcewriter. In neither case
was the source used more than once for the individual and/or family. When I
create a family group report on my laptop, it shows the sources correctly.
When I create it on my laptop, using the same settings, it only shows the
shortened version of the source. Isn't that just a little bizarre?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bateham
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

Hi Ron and Clair

(And Brian or Ken, please note the following:)

I can confirm this problem is a BUG with both the Family Report and the 
Individual Report when using the SourceWriter.

When using sources created with the new SourceWriter, the first instance of 
a particular "master source/citation detail/detail text/detail comments" 
show in Preview, and will print, correctly.

However, all subsequent citations to the same master source with "different 
citation detail/different detail text/different or same detail comments" 
show only as a subsequent citation, giving only the short version 
referencing the master source and the short version of the different 
citation detail and dropping the  "different detail text/different or same 
detail comments."

I have entered 1830, 1840, and 1850 US census (online image templates). This

problems occurs with all these sources, and I suspect will occur with others

as I continue changing my sources to the newer SourceWriter format.

This problem/BUG has occurred with all Legacy 7 installs that I have tried 
(builds 38 to 45, both GR and Beta).

All sources entered using the older Basic Sources both print (and print 
preview) show correctly, i.e.: giving the "master source/citation 
detail/detail text/detail comment" AND when the same master source is 
referenced again in the same report, then again the "master source/different

citation detail/different detail text/different or same detail comment" will

also print completely, as it should.

And yes, I have checked both the Options>Customize>Sources window for all 
appropriate check marks to print source citations, as well as in the 
Reports>Family>Report Options>Sources tab and the Reports>Individual>Report 
Options>Sources tab.

I can send images, if needed, of the options checked, the actual information

in the source details as entered in SourceWriter, and what the actual 
results of assigned sources are as showing in the reports.

Dan Bateham

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:56 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

Clair,

Have a look at: Family Group>Report Options>Sources
Also when still in Family View etc: Options>Customise>Sources.

Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:46:10 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> I must be doing something wrong. I tried adding a few new sources using 
> the
> Source Writer. When I previewed a family group report, the sources showed 
> as
> a "subsequent citation" rather than a footnote. For example: I added a
> newspaper item I found online. The only thing showing in the sources is 
> the
> title of the article - not even the name of the newspaper. I subsequently
> tried previewing a descendant narrative report and it showed up correctly
> there. Also, the citations I added using an "old" master source with new
> source detail also showed up correctly.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Claire

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RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Dave

Actually I'd suggest that problems with Ancestry be taken up with Ancestry
or discussed on a list where it's on-topic.  Let's remember that this is
a Legacy support list and it's clearly off-topic here.I don't think it's
fair to all of the other subscribers here to venture off into Ancestry (or
Windows XP/Vista) problems.

 

Dave

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark K
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of
this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

 

If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and
what service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based
computer with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the
fault of the user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.

 

Mark





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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list,
concerning Ancestry.com!

Got this announcement when I finished the email

"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original
records"

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Darlene,

I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and
tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry
about the problem.

Christina 

 

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Hi
  I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My
Dell desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had
two viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did
searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine,
but when I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up
and running and I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and
deleted it, but it made no change in my access to images.  There are
probably more files hidden.  Can someone please give me a heads up on what
could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year with Ancestry.com in
March and not getting the census images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any
and all
 help with this problem!

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List

2008-06-16 Thread Dianne Myers

Thankyou so much. This is exactly what I wanted.
 
 

Regards, Dianne

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen
Prunty
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 11:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List


Diane...
 
Open a wordpad window... simply click start then click run and type wordpad
and hit enter to open this program (or you can even us MS Word).  Go back to
legacy and get the data to display on the screen like you like it.
 
Then hit your printscreen button.
 
Click on the wordpad program and go to edit and paste.
 
An image will appear in that window where you can print it.
 
There are also other handy little print screen programs out there I like
this one a lot.
 
http://www.gadwin.com/printscreen/
 
Allen


From: Dianne Myers   
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List



Hi 
Is it possible to print a list of the assigned sources just for one
individual at a time? I would like to print the assigned sources window that
pops up when you hit the sources icon that is under each individuals
information box. Thankyou 

Regards, Dianne 


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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

2008-06-16 Thread Claire Spinelli

I've only entered two new sources using the sourcewriter. In neither case
was the source used more than once for the individual and/or family. When I
create a family group report on my laptop, it shows the sources correctly.
When I create it on my laptop, using the same settings, it only shows the
shortened version of the source. Isn't that just a little bizarre?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bateham
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

Hi Ron and Clair

(And Brian or Ken, please note the following:)


I can confirm this problem is a BUG with both the Family Report and the 
Individual Report when using the SourceWriter.

When using sources created with the new SourceWriter, the first instance of 
a particular "master source/citation detail/detail text/detail comments" 
show in Preview, and will print, correctly.

However, all subsequent citations to the same master source with "different 
citation detail/different detail text/different or same detail comments" 
show only as a subsequent citation, giving only the short version 
referencing the master source and the short version of the different 
citation detail and dropping the  "different detail text/different or same 
detail comments."

I have entered 1830, 1840, and 1850 US census (online image templates). This

problems occurs with all these sources, and I suspect will occur with others

as I continue changing my sources to the newer SourceWriter format.

This problem/BUG has occurred with all Legacy 7 installs that I have tried 
(builds 38 to 45, both GR and Beta).

All sources entered using the older Basic Sources both print (and print 
preview) show correctly, i.e.: giving the "master source/citation 
detail/detail text/detail comment" AND when the same master source is 
referenced again in the same report, then again the "master source/different

citation detail/different detail text/different or same detail comment" will

also print completely, as it should.

And yes, I have checked both the Options>Customize>Sources window for all 
appropriate check marks to print source citations, as well as in the 
Reports>Family>Report Options>Sources tab and the Reports>Individual>Report 
Options>Sources tab.

I can send images, if needed, of the options checked, the actual information

in the source details as entered in SourceWriter, and what the actual 
results of assigned sources are as showing in the reports.

Dan Bateham


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:56 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report



Clair,

Have a look at: Family Group>Report Options>Sources
Also when still in Family View etc: Options>Customise>Sources.




Ron Ferguson

_

New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_



> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:46:10 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> I must be doing something wrong. I tried adding a few new sources using 
> the
> Source Writer. When I previewed a family group report, the sources showed 
> as
> a "subsequent citation" rather than a footnote. For example: I added a
> newspaper item I found online. The only thing showing in the sources is 
> the
> title of the article - not even the name of the newspaper. I subsequently
> tried previewing a descendant narrative report and it showed up correctly
> there. Also, the citations I added using an "old" master source with new
> source detail also showed up correctly.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Claire





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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

I have an AMD processor with SP3 on XP- AMT Turion 64- and never had any issues 
with viewing what is on Ancestry.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark K 
  To: 
legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com

  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

  If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the 
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what 
service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based computer 
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the fault of the 
user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.

  Mark

Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!

Got this announcement when I finished the email

"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original 
records"

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Darlene,

  I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and 
tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry 
about the problem.

  Christina 

  On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi
  I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic 
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with 
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell 
desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had two 
viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs 
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, 
at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when I 
tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up and running and 
I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it 
made no change in my access to images.  There are probably more files hidden.  
Can someone please give me a heads up on what could be the problem?  I payed 
$300 for another year with Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census 
images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any and all
 help with this problem!

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup Problem with V7.0

2008-06-16 Thread Jack Earnshaw

Bill

The official Legacy answer is to go to the support pages and look at the
"errors by number". I've reported this problem twice and tried some of the
solutions offered on the support page. I've even changed computers and in
doing that gone from XP to Vista. But I still get the problem. Not every
time I do a backup, but frequently. It seems that the longer one has Legacy
open then the more likely you are to get Error 91. As you say, after
pressing the Quit button and re-entering Legacy it works perfectly.

As you see, the solutions offered talk about jet updates etc, and refer to
several operating systems and even say that if you have XP you don't need to
do that one. Well, I have Vista now and that operating system isn't even
mentioned!

After last reporting it I again got the stock answer from Sherry (despite
having said that I had tried the solutions offered on the support pages).
After replying I was then asked what task I was carrying out when it failed.
In case you are reading this Sherry (as you've not responded again), IT WAS
A BACKUP.

I'm sorry you have the problem as well as me, but pleased in as much as I
don't feel alone!

Jack



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William
Robinette
Sent: 10 June 2008 16:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup Problem with V7.0

After I recently updated to V7.0 I have a problem when trying to perform 
a backup.  After I have indicated where I want to do the backup and 
named it I click on the button to backup. Shortly after the backup 
process begins I receive the following error:

Error reading Individual.
Error 91: Object variable or With block variable not set
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

YesNoQuit  are the options I can select. The only one that ever 
works is to select Quit which then shuts Legacy down. After I reopen 
Legacy I try again to do a backup and it tells me that the backup 
already exists and do I want to overwrite it. I say yes and the backup 
proceeds without any apparent problems. This occurs ever time I attempt 
a backup.  I have tried repair database and have never had any errors or 
problems doing this. I have been to the support page and read about 
error 91 but see nothing in the description that refers to error 91 and 
backup. I don't really know what Object variable or With block variable 
not set means. Has anyone else experienced this or has any suggestions 
on how to resolve this?

Bill



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Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List

2008-06-16 Thread Tracy Skegg

Wouldn't an Individual report do what you want too?  As long as you've
selected all the source elements you want to see (eg pictures), I just
tried these methods with a person who has more sources than one screen
shot if I used the screen shot and paste method, but the Individual
report is pretty quick.
Cheers
Tracy



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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator


Jan,

Same here, but I'm not sure exactly what is meant by non-blood relationships. 
My view is the same as yours, but.


Ron Ferguson

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http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:37:57 +1000
>
> Relationship Calculator and Tools> Set Relationship both work, very quickly
> - with approx. 8500 individuals. However, non-blood relationships do not
> display on the Family View for more than two generations, regardless of how
> many generations I have selected to display. For example, I can only get as
> far as Father-in-Law and Mother-in-Law, Brother-in-Law and Sister-in-Law -
> what happened to husband's niece or niece-in-law etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Seddon
> Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 2:56:PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have complained about the "Tools> Set Relationship" function running all
> night with no results except a million calculations on the register and no
> one has commented on it. I see a string going on the "Tools> Relationship
> Calculator" function. That seems to be working fine for me.
>
> The screen comes up in less than 10 seconds.
> An 8th cousin, 5 times removed displays almost instantly.
>
> But "Tools> Set Relationship" function still does not work.
>
> Art Seddon
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K

If you are having problems with ancestry.com it will help if you state the 
brand of processor (intel or amd), the operating system (XP or Vista) and what 
service pack you are on.  It has already been stated that an amd based computer 
with XP SP3 has known issues with ancestry.com and it is not the fault of the 
user.  It is also worth mentioning which browser and version.
 
Mark


Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:28:48 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, 
concerning Ancestry.com!Got this announcement when I finished the 
email"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original 
records"
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Darlene,I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer 
and tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry 
about the problem.Christina



On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi  I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic 
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with 
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell 
desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had two 
viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs 
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did searches, 
at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine, but when I 
tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up and running and 
I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted it, but it 
made no change in my access to images.  There are probably more files hidden.  
Can someone please give me a heads up on what could be the problem?  I payed 
$300 for another year with Ancestry.com in March and not getting the census 
images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any and all help with this [EMAIL 
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator

2008-06-16 Thread Jan Roberts

Relationship Calculator and Tools > Set Relationship both work, very quickly
- with approx. 8500 individuals.  However, non-blood relationships do not
display on the Family View for more than two generations, regardless of how
many generations I have selected to display.  For example, I can only get as
far as Father-in-Law and Mother-in-Law, Brother-in-Law and Sister-in-Law -
what happened to husband's niece or niece-in-law etc.

Cheers,
Jan
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Seddon
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 2:56:PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Relationship Calculator

Hi all,

I have complained about the "Tools > Set Relationship" function running all 
night with no results except a million calculations on the register and no 
one has commented on it. I see a string going on the "Tools > Relationship 
Calculator" function. That seems to be working fine for me.

The screen comes up in less than 10 seconds.
An 8th cousin, 5 times removed displays almost instantly.

But "Tools > Set Relationship" function still does not work.

Art Seddon






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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Forum on http://www.geneclub.net

2008-06-16 Thread Joyce Herzog

I sure can't find it!

Joyce

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My original message got clipped ... wonder why?
>
> I doubt that there will be official support on there either... hence it's
> an UNOFFICIAL Support forum... ergo... Users helping Users.  And there are
> some VERY good users out there here that can offer a lot of help.
>
> Hope this clears that up.
>
> Allen
>
> --
>
>  I doubt that Support will become involved. So how will you be able to
>>> guarantee authenticity when it comes to suppositions about how the software
>>> should or should not work? All I can see this being any use for is a private
>>> area for letting off steam. It will go the way of the original Rootsweb
>>> Legacy forum i.e. wither away through lack of any real support.
>>>
>>
>> User helping user... hence the term unofficial and I truly believe there
>> are enough experienced people out there that can help people.
>>
>> Allen
>> http://geneaolgyclub.net
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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread Frank L. Rose

Before anyone gets really excited about the accuracy of GPS, let me point
out that commercial units are only accurate to about 3 meters (~10 ft.).
Different people with the same/different unit can get different readings.
This may be due to the time of the day that the reading was taken, the
person using the device and probably several other possibilities.  This
means that the location of the reading could be as much as 10 ft. off when
checked by a second person or even if the user took another measurement.  In
most cases this is accurate enough, but the chance of being spot on is
rather slim.  Personally I would not depend on the GPS unit to give me a
position to within inches, within feet yes, but never within inches.

Most GPS units will measure in degrees; degrees & minutes; and degree,
minutes & seconds.  The decimal portion is part of the smallest unit of
measurement.  The usefulness of decimal seconds could be argumentative.
Some devices use +/- for north & south and east & west measurements.  Other
devices use N, E, S & W appended to the beginning or end of the measurement.

Of course all this does not answer how to convert the data found in a
listing.  There are many sites that have conversion tools that will convert
among the various measurements.  One that I have used is found at:

http://www.cosports.com/index.php/tool/tools/latlong

It seems to work quite well.

FL Rose


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clare
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:41 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

.001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most
purposes.
John
2008/6/16 Larry Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi David,

You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--.

I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in
my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local
(family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of
finding any thing.

I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting.

When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having
the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or
decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But
it never happened.

I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not
to responded.

Best,

Larry 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread Janis Gilmore

Kirsten and Pat,

I agree with you, Kirsten, that it would be easier and faster to review data
from within Legacy instead of retyping.

BUT - having said that, will say that keying in the information again is
still enlightening in some mystical way. You really do see things that you
don't see in any other way. I think there is a definite value to employing
that tactic sometimes, particularly as regards your direct ancestors.

Janis Walker Gilmore

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

Pat:

No comments on your file structure, but I would say this:  Legacy has
several wonderful tools, screens, and reports for finding data entry
inconsistencies and missing information very quickly.  It could be a lot
easier and faster to review/edit your file from within Legacy than retyping
all of your information.  If you're hesitant, import a copy of your file and
have a look.  If you still think you want to re-enter everything, you could
start a new Legacy family file.

Kirsten

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Molloy
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To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much
of that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never
completely happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a
friend.

Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean"
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable,
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up
on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to
become one!), and I've come up with the following.

 *My Documents.
*Family History.
*My Family History (Legacy).
* Certificates. (Scans of)
*Birth.
*Marriages.
 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)
* UK 1841
* UK 1851
*etc.
 * Parish Records (Scans of)
 * Photographs.
*People.
* Places.
*Other.

Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be
appreciated.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Christina

Darlene,

I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and
tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry
about the problem.

Christina

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi
>   I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic
> updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with
> service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My
> Dell desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had
> two viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs
> reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did
> searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine,
> but when I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up
> and running and I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and
> deleted it, but it made no change in my access to images.  There are
> probably more files hidden.  Can someone please give me a heads up on what
> could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year with Ancestry.com in
> March and not getting the census images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any
> and all
>  help with this problem!
>
> Darlene
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~
> C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963
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Re: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Christina

Got this announcement when I finished the email

"Announcing: updating system 6-11-08, may be preventing viewing original
records"

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Christina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Darlene,
>
> I am having problems as well. I have not done anything to my computer and
> tried both browsers IE 7 and Netscape 9. I have sent a message to Ancestry
> about the problem.
>
> Christina
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Darlene & Don Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>   I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic
>> updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with
>> service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My
>> Dell desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had
>> two viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs
>> reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did
>> searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine,
>> but when I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up
>> and running and I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and
>> deleted it, but it made no change in my access to images.  There are
>> probably more files hidden.  Can someone please give me a heads up on what
>> could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year with Ancestry.com in
>> March and not getting the census images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any
>> and all
>>  help with this problem!
>>
>> Darlene
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream."   ~
>> C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Gail,

The Recorded Date field is just a field where some people will type in the
date that they either added the source. I've never used it. The Date
Accessed field is in the templates for the online sources. To see it you
might have to scroll down in the list a bit.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Hi Geoff, now I'm a little confused.  On the Master Source Definition
tab for a census, I see a "publish date" field and I see a "recorded
date" field down at the botton of the screen in the gray part.

I see that when I type something in the "publish date" field, it shows
up in the bibliography output (and not beside the accessed date in the
footnote).  When I type something into the "recorded date" on this
same screen, it does not seem to affect the output in either place.


Now moving on to the source detail screen...
When I click to edit the source detail, I see a place to enter a
"recorded" date there as well.  However, this too, seems to have no
effect on the footnote or bibliography output.

I do not see a "date accessed" field at all on any of the screens.  I
am specifically looking at a 1920 US Census template.  Maybe it is on
the others?

Thanks for any explanations to help clear this up for me!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may
be
> confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
> publish date should be the date when the database was published.
>
> I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
> doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail
Nestor
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
> writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
> EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
> to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
> one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
> before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
> see what the future plans might be.
>
> It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
> input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
> level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
> (like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
> census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
> spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
> parentheses.
>
> The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
> order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
> sure why we could not give the user the choice of where to include the
> accessed date.
>
> Geoff, how have you been handling this issue with your own data so
> far??  I believe you had stated that you lump master census sources by
> county as well, right?
>
> I am hesitant to convert too many of my census master sources before I
> know how this issue may be addressed.  If I have somehow missed a note
> saying that issue is on a list to be fixed in an upcoming update, I
> apologize for the duplication of notes.
>
> I truly believe this tool is going to help thousands of genealogists
> improve their desire and ability to cite sources more accurately and
> completely!  Kudos to the Legacy team!!
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
> P.S.  Hi there to all my LUG friends who just got back from IGHR
> (Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research) in Birmingham,
> Alabama!
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread david

 Larry,

 I see your point.  I guess I'm just *too* traditional but I hate Lat/Long 
being decimalised. Having said that, we do use degrees, minutes and decimals of 
minutes so I haven't really got a leg to stand on have I?
 Since degrees and decimals of degrees are being used in the world I'll get 
over it and agree with you, the choice between degrees/decimals and the present 
system would be very nice to have and would suit everyone.

 Regards,
  Dave.





From: Larry Wilson
Sent: Tue 17/06/2008 02:14
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format


Hi David, 
 
You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. 
 
I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in
my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local
(family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of
finding any thing. 
 
I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. 
 
When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having
the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or
decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But
it never happened. 
 
I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not
to responded.  

Best, 
 
Larry 
 





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Re: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Hi Geoff, now I'm a little confused.  On the Master Source Definition
tab for a census, I see a "publish date" field and I see a "recorded
date" field down at the botton of the screen in the gray part.

I see that when I type something in the "publish date" field, it shows
up in the bibliography output (and not beside the accessed date in the
footnote).  When I type something into the "recorded date" on this
same screen, it does not seem to affect the output in either place.


Now moving on to the source detail screen...
When I click to edit the source detail, I see a place to enter a
"recorded" date there as well.  However, this too, seems to have no
effect on the footnote or bibliography output.

I do not see a "date accessed" field at all on any of the screens.  I
am specifically looking at a 1920 US Census template.  Maybe it is on
the others?

Thanks for any explanations to help clear this up for me!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gail,
>
> The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may be
> confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
> publish date should be the date when the database was published.
>
> I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
> doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
> Geoff
>
> Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
> writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
> EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
> to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
> one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
> before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
> see what the future plans might be.
>
> It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
> input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
> level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
> (like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
> census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
> spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
> parentheses.
>
> The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
> order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
> sure why we could not give the user the choice of where to include the
> accessed date.
>
> Geoff, how have you been handling this issue with your own data so
> far??  I believe you had stated that you lump master census sources by
> county as well, right?
>
> I am hesitant to convert too many of my census master sources before I
> know how this issue may be addressed.  If I have somehow missed a note
> saying that issue is on a list to be fixed in an upcoming update, I
> apologize for the duplication of notes.
>
> I truly believe this tool is going to help thousands of genealogists
> improve their desire and ability to cite sources more accurately and
> completely!  Kudos to the Legacy team!!
>
> Gail Rich Nestor
> Smyrna, Georgia
> www.roots2buds.net
>
> P.S.  Hi there to all my LUG friends who just got back from IGHR
> (Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research) in Birmingham,
> Alabama!
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread Art Seddon

Bob.

Is there a way to have the program transfer these numbers to a location 
without cut and paste back and forth?

Art Seddon

Robert57P via Gmail wrote:

Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from
degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees.  It is under Tools, Distance and
Bearing calculator

Bob





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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread Robert Carneal USA

Hello. Don't forget that Legacy provides a way for you to convert DMS to
decimal degrees, and vice versa! Quite a few people are pleasantly
pleased to discover this. To find it, go to "Add/Edit Location."

For just a few locations, 50 or so or fewer, it is not too bad. But if
you have 100s or 1,000s of locations to convert, it is trying to do
conversion for that many!

I am positive Geoff will respond. They do have tens of thousands of
email to respond to.

Robert

Larry Wilson wrote:
Hi David,

You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--.

I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of finding any thing.

I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting.

When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But it never happened.

I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not to responded.

Best,

Larry

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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread Kirsten Bowman

Pat:

No comments on your file structure, but I would say this:  Legacy has
several wonderful tools, screens, and reports for finding data entry
inconsistencies and missing information very quickly.  It could be a lot
easier and faster to review/edit your file from within Legacy than retyping
all of your information.  If you're hesitant, import a copy of your file and
have a look.  If you still think you want to re-enter everything, you could
start a new Legacy family file.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pat and Rita
Molloy
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much
of that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never
completely happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a
friend.

Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean"
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable,
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up
on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to
become one!), and I've come up with the following.

 *My Documents.
*Family History.
*My Family History (Legacy).
* Certificates. (Scans of)
*Birth.
*Marriages.
 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)
* UK 1841
* UK 1851
*etc.
 * Parish Records (Scans of)
 * Photographs.
*People.
* Places.
*Other.

Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be
appreciated.

Pat Molloy













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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread John Clare

.001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most
purposes.
John

2008/6/16 Larry Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi David,
>
> You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
> of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
> locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
> format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--.
>
> I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations,
> in
> my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local
> (family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of
> finding any thing.
>
> I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting.
>
> When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having
> the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or
> decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But
> it never happened.
>
> I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has
> not
> to responded.
>
> Best,
>
> Larry
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: David
> Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
>
>
> Larry,
> As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly
> right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat.
> =
> 1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it
> always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in
> degrees
> and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles.
> It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of
> degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it.
> I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I
> honestly don't know.
>
> Regards,
> Dave (NZ).
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Larry Wilson
> Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format
>
>
> Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37
> 59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into
> (DDMMSS.xxx) GPS?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error

2008-06-16 Thread Art Seddon

Thanks for the try, Jenny.

Art Seddon
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To: 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error



Art Seddon wrote
>>Potential Problems is giving:
>>"There may be a Title entered in the Name field, such as 'Jr.', 'M.D.',
>>'Rev.' or Dr.'.  Remove the title from the Name field and enter it into
>>a Title field." error when Title is properly entered in the "Title
>>pre." field.
>
>What have you got in the Name field?
>--
>Jenny M Benson
>
>Title pre.:  "Lady"
>Given:   "[GNU]"  (Which is what I used in V6 for Given Name Unknown)
>Surname:   "FLEMING"
>Title suf.:"Mistress Of James IV"
>
>I have the Given:   "[GNU]"  numerous times and it does not trigger a
>Potential Problem.
>I also use [LNU] - Last Name Unknown and [MNU] - Maiden Name Unknown with 
>no
>problems.
>
>Hope you can help.

I think it must be a glitch somewhere in you own file, although I
wouldn't have a clue what or where.  I just put all those same names
into my Test file and ran a PPR with all options checked and nothing
came up for that record except a warning about using all caps.

Sorry I can't be more help.
-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error

2008-06-16 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

If you want to leave whatever is in the field there,
just check off the PPlist. I have over a couple
hundred at the moment, most of which are errors
recieved from other genealogists and websites. You
never have to 'fix' them.
Rich in LA CA
--- Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the try, Jenny.
> 
> Art Seddon
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error
> 
> 
> 
> Art Seddon wrote
> >>Potential Problems is giving:
> >>"There may be a Title entered in the Name field,
> such as 'Jr.', 'M.D.',
> >>'Rev.' or Dr.'.  Remove the title from the Name
> field and enter it into
> >>a Title field." error when Title is properly
> entered in the "Title
> >>pre." field.
> >
> >What have you got in the Name field?
> >--
> >Jenny M Benson
> >
> >Title pre.:  "Lady"
> >Given:   "[GNU]"  (Which is what I used in V6 for
> Given Name Unknown)
> >Surname:   "FLEMING"
> >Title suf.:"Mistress Of James IV"
> >
> >I have the Given:   "[GNU]"  numerous times and it
> does not trigger a
> >Potential Problem.
> >I also use [LNU] - Last Name Unknown and [MNU] -
> Maiden Name Unknown with 
> >no
> >problems.
> >
> >Hope you can help.
> 
> I think it must be a glitch somewhere in you own
> file, although I
> wouldn't have a clue what or where.  I just put all
> those same names
> into my Test file and ran a PPR with all options
> checked and nothing
> came up for that record except a warning about using
> all caps.
> 
> Sorry I can't be more help.
> -- 
> Jenny M Benson
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for Geoff

Gail,

The Date Accessed field is actually in the Source Detail screen. You may be
confusing this with the Publish Date, which is in the master source. The
publish date should be the date when the database was published.

I actually used to split my census sources at the city level, but am now
doing it at the county level because of EE's guidelines.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:49 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7: Accessed date for lumped US Census Entries - for
Geoff

Hi, well I've finally had a chance to play around with the source
writer a bit and I am very pleased with the overall results!  With my
EE book in hand, I have been wading through the templates and starting
to make some source conversions.  I'm kind of surprised, though, at
one aspect of the US census template.  I know this has been mentioned
before in our *very* active list, but I want to revisit the issue to
see what the future plans might be.

It seems that the formatting for the "accessed date" is set to be
input at the master source level, rather than the citation detail
level.  For users who lump their census entries by county or by year
(like myself), then the date will not be applicable for subsequent
census findings for different families.  If no date is entered in this
spot, though, the result is an empty space before the closing
parentheses.

The order of the source output seems to allow for the blending of the
order of master source components and detail components, so I am not
sure why we could not give the user the choice of where to include the
accessed date.

Geoff, how have you been handling this issue with your own data so
far??  I believe you had stated that you lump master census sources by
county as well, right?

I am hesitant to convert too many of my census master sources before I
know how this issue may be addressed.  If I have somehow missed a note
saying that issue is on a list to be fixed in an upcoming update, I
apologize for the duplication of notes.

I truly believe this tool is going to help thousands of genealogists
improve their desire and ability to cite sources more accurately and
completely!  Kudos to the Legacy team!!

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

P.S.  Hi there to all my LUG friends who just got back from IGHR
(Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research) in Birmingham,
Alabama!




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames - Initial Caps

2008-06-16 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

Years ago I ran into this, and at the time changed to 'Don't change what I 
enter' under DATA FORMAT, below Initial caps.
Rich in LA CA

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Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:09:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Surnames - Initial Caps

Had the program convert all Surnames to Initial Cap - then lower case.
Worked perfectly - EXCEPT every name beginning with Mc (several
hundred of mine) came out McKAIN (Cap first letter, lower case second
letter, Cap third letter AND all additional letters.  And when I try
to hand correct it starts to correct but flips to ALL CAPS after the
small c???  I have the display ALL UPPER CASE - OFF.  Ideas??
Keith

-- 
Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry

Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


Bob,

Resisting making any comment about the advisability or otherwise of storing 
data in the root drive, (please see the archives there's loads on it - address 
at the bottom), I would make only one comment. Why wait for Legacy to put in 
the "File" folder, C:\Legacy\Files - if you want it just create it.


Ron Ferguson

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:45:18 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





I don't have much info stored in my PC - I've been one of those that (until 
recently) was looking for "just the facts" from family.  I now need to go back 
and revisit to document those facts and to add sources (If I had only known . . 
.!) .



However, with that being said, if you plan on attaching any documents to Legacy 
you might want to consider putting the various different documents in the 
"default" Legacy folders.  (Or maybe shrunk down versions).  Granted, you don't 
need to have your attachments in the specified folders, but it seems to make it 
easier.



I've adopted this for my Legacy program data:

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\other   (for "file" attachments)

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Pictures

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Sounds

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Trees (for the actual family tree file(s))

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Video

I also have a similar structure for a test database and for a "to be 
researched" database.  For example
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\test\ and etc (other, pictures, sounds, trees, video)

C:\windata\Legacy-v7\research\   and etc



Note that Legacy normally does not generate a "Trees" folder - the family tree 
data file usually falls up 1 folder.  I'm having mixed feelings about having a 
Trees folder - sometime I like it, sometimes it is a pain.



However, if you are thinking of sharing your Legacy data with others, you might 
want to look at the CD creation section of Legacy's help.  They imply that when 
you ship out the CD (using their process), that the results end up in:

C:\Legacy\Data   (for the actcual family tree file(s)

C:\Legacy\Pictures

C:\Legacy\Sounds

C:\Legacy\Videos

So I'm thinking there might be a benefit if MY files on my PC are also using 
the same structure?



I'm waiting on a reply from Legacy Support about if there would also now be a:

C:\Legacy\Files

and if their overall process for all the folders allows for sub-folders within 
each of those folders.



Of course you don't have to follow that automated process even if you do share 
your data.  You can always share your own structure w your family members.



Either of these folder structures only impacts stuff you would plan on 
attaching into your Legacy database.  They would not have anything to do with 
your day-to-day research that you do outside of Legacy attachments.



Make sure you make your file names obvious!  Having something like:

Patton-reseach

doesn't do much good!  Better MIGHT be:

Patton-William-BD-Jan1875-andImmediateFamily-census-research

I already have some pictures that I thought I had named well.  But as I add 
more pictures, I realize I will need to go back and rename the first ones w 
more specific info in the filenames to avoid problems down the road.



Bob






- Original Message -

From: Pat and Rita Molloy

To: Legacy User Group

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:38 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy



I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.



I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.



Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.



With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the following.



 *My Documents.

*Family History.

*My Family History (Legacy).

* Certificates. (Scans of)
*Birth.

*Marriages.

 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?

2008-06-16 Thread Wynthner

Considering what happened with V7 I'd be surprised if Legacy *ever*, even 
vaguely, committed to a certain time frame again- for anything; I'd certainly 
not blame them!

- Original Message 
From: music-line <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:55:17 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?

Hi Michelle,

I seem to remember reading that Legacy are not making any promises as to
when this will be available.  I reckon this is sensible really, in case they
have to break the promise.

Best wishes

David

*
David S Brookes
Musical Director, The Brewood Singers
        www.brewoodsingers.co.uk
Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey
        www.polesworthabbey.co.uk
*

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Lewis
Sent: 16 June 2008 12:26
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?

I have been adding sources using the new source template and so far so good.

However, I need to convert my gazillion old sources over to the new format. 
Someone said that the conversion is not yet available.  Does anyone know 
when it will be available? 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy/MRIN Filing

2008-06-16 Thread D Levenick

I am glad to see this discussion as Legacy 7 has prompted me to clean up my
files too. I only started using Legacy6 in earnest last summer, and had
quite a bit of difficulty with sourcing; when I heard the news of the the
expected update, I put everything on hold. Now I have an avalanche of paper
to deal with. I am entering anew into ver7 and find it very easy. To gain
control over the files, I went back to the LUG archives and read several
discussions, also went to the Legacy NewsBlog and found a great recap by
Geoff of filing systems that have worked for LUG users. 
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/organization/index.html
It offers details to four different systems.

I have tried filing in binders by MRIN numbers but could not get my mind
into numbers rather than names. Then I used names and file folders. Still
seemed not quite right for me. I like the usefulness of binders, but I don't
like looking at them on my shelf. 

Now I am back to files, arranged in Mary Hill's system recommended in
Geoff's article -- color coded by family line, grouped by family, then by
couple. This system appeals to my way of thinking -- by names rather than
numbers, although it is essentialy the MRIN system, and it meshes very
nicely with Legacy as Geoff notes. I like the colored reference too. It
wouldn't matter if you use colored labels, ink, folders, or hanging file
folders, but it just looks nice and neat and things out of place are
instantly obvious. My individual documents are still in archive-safe plastic
sleeves (from their binder days) and I haven't yet decided if I will take
them out of the sleeve. My inclination is to leave them be. I probably need
to find a safer way to store original documents; perhaps it is not a good
idea to mix them in with the general files. I plan to set up my computer
files to mirror the paper files and be consistent in what I do in both
places.

When I first started to set up my files I could not believe the variety of
systems people use, and I am still surprised by some of the ingenious filing
systems I hear about. I kept looking for the "right" system, the "official"
one. Only now do I understand what veteran researchers say, that the best
system is the one that works for you. I am tired of trying to reinvent the
proverbial wheel, so at least for now, I am going to try to make this filing
system work for me and move on collecting more paper. 

I hope this bit of info is helpful,
Denise in So.Cal




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE
CROSBY
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


Pat,
I too am new to Legacy and I believe that you will not be
disappointed in the quality of the product.  With that said, I have been
researching my family since 2001- I have my computer set up the following
way.  
My Documents
   Genealogy
 Each family has their own folder
 in each folder, I have place all
 the scanned or captured documents
   ie.  Crosby - all scanned obits, BMD, Census, 
My Pictures
   Crosby/Erickson Genealogy
 all pictures relating to my research ( I may change this and
sort per
 family) I am getting photos from other family members so I now
have over 800 photos relating to 
my research.  
 
I also use Clooz to record what documents I have so I can fill in
the gaps.
There is another product I use from Microsoft called One Note.  One
Note is a
virtual file- I have a file named Genealogy with sep. folders for
each family, thoughts, to do notes, e-mail etc.
 
I like the MRIN filing system and I am thinking about doing that for
all of my files in the computer-
ie.  MRIN1-Richard/Barbara Crosby- putting all photos, documents
relating to this marriage/family.
 
In the past I made up a 3 ring binder for each family and organized
based on dates- for that family name- as you may
note that would produce duplicates- ie Richard would have all of the
documents relating to that family as well as in
the Erickson book for his wife.  I had four binders for each line of
my Grandparents- the only positive side to this 
method was that if a Crosby ancestor was over to my house I would
only show them that book- same for each of the 
other binders.
 
I look forward to hearing how others do this and how they share the
info with interested family members.
 
Shelly
 
 
- Original Message - 

From: Pat and Rita Molloy   
To: Legacy User Group
  
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:38 AM
Subj

Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

I don't have much info stored in my PC - I've been one of those that (until 
recently) was looking for "just the facts" from family.  I now need to go back 
and revisit to document those facts and to add sources (If I had only known . . 
.!) .

However, with that being said, if you plan on attaching any documents to Legacy 
you might want to consider putting the various different documents in the 
"default" Legacy folders.  (Or maybe shrunk down versions).  Granted, you don't 
need to have your attachments in the specified folders, but it seems to make it 
easier.

I've adopted this for my Legacy program data:
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\other   (for "file" attachments)
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Pictures
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Sounds
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Trees (for the actual family tree file(s))
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-master\Video
I also have a similar structure for a test database and for a "to be 
researched" database.  For example
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\test\ and etc (other, pictures, sounds, trees, video)
C:\windata\Legacy-v7\research\   and etc

Note that Legacy normally does not generate a "Trees" folder - the family tree 
data file usually falls up 1 folder.  I'm having mixed feelings about having a 
Trees folder - sometime I like it, sometimes it is a pain.

However, if you are thinking of sharing your Legacy data with others, you might 
want to look at the CD creation section of Legacy's help.  They imply that when 
you ship out the CD (using their process), that the results end up in:
C:\Legacy\Data   (for the actcual family tree file(s)
C:\Legacy\Pictures
C:\Legacy\Sounds
C:\Legacy\Videos
So I'm thinking there might be a benefit if MY files on my PC are also using 
the same structure?

I'm waiting on a reply from Legacy Support about if there would also now be a:
C:\Legacy\Files
and if their overall process for all the folders allows for sub-folders within 
each of those folders.

Of course you don't have to follow that automated process even if you do share 
your data.  You can always share your own structure w your family members.  

Either of these folder structures only impacts stuff you would plan on 
attaching into your Legacy database.  They would not have anything to do with 
your day-to-day research that you do outside of Legacy attachments.

Make sure you make your file names obvious!  Having something like:
Patton-reseach
doesn't do much good!  Better MIGHT be:
Patton-William-BD-Jan1875-andImmediateFamily-census-research
I already have some pictures that I thought I had named well.  But as I add 
more pictures, I realize I will need to go back and rename the first ones w 
more specific info in the filenames to avoid problems down the road.

Bob


  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat and Rita Molloy 
  To: Legacy User Group 
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:38 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


  I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

  I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.

  Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

  With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the following.

   *My Documents.
  *Family History.
  *My Family History (Legacy).
  * Certificates. (Scans of) 
  *Birth.
  *Marriages.
   *Death 
  *Census  (Scans of)
  * UK 1841
  * UK 1851
  *etc.
   * Parish Records (Scans of)
   * Photographs.
  *People.
  * Places.
  *Other.

  Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be 
appreciated.

  Pat Molloy




  

  
  

 

  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

Note that the deluxe version includes a converter from 
degrees-minutes-seconds to decimal degrees.  It is under Tools, Distance and 
Bearing calculator


Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format



Hi David,

You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--.

I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, 
in

my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local
(family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of
finding any thing.

I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting.

When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having
the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or
decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But
it never happened.

I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has 
not

to responded.

Best,

Larry

---Original Message--- 


From: David
Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format


Larry,
As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly
right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. 
=

1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it
always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in 
degrees

and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles.
It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of
degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it.
I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I
honestly don't know.

Regards,
Dave (NZ).





From: Larry Wilson
Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format


Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37
59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into
(DDMMSS.xxx) GPS?










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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread MJMethod

I think you're on the right track. 
 
One comment/suggestion: 
Legacy isn't really good with large file sizes. If  you have photos, 
scans, pdf's, etc. that are large (sometimes several  megabytes), use a photo 
or 
pdf product to make a reduced  copy. I generally try to ensure that the 
"attached"  copies are no more than about 500K. BTW, this can also let you crop 
 
images
Keep the original (you want the best possible image  at some point for 
viewing or printing).
 
My basic scheme is: 
1. Everything new goes in one directory as  "research" (with 
subdirectories by topic or type or family - your choices)
2. As I work through the research, I fix the file  name, add comments or 
detail in the file properties, etc., including adding MRIN  into the file name 
if appropriate. Here's also where I make reduced-size copies,  etc.
3. I have an "Archives" directory. A copy of  everything goes in here, 
including the full size copy. And there are all kinds  of images or documents 
here that will never be attached to Legacy, but have  other value. This is also 
a key directory for "backup" when doing a general  computer backup; I can 
always recreate other uses from here.
4. I have my "Legacy" images directory. I only move  copies here that I 
intend to actually attach to Legacy, including the reduced  size or cropped 
images I made in step 2.
5. Attach files to Legacy.
 

Mike

Michael J Method

family research  of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog, tenEyck, Belsley 
 

 
In a message dated 6/16/2008 6:04:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post  on Saturday.
 
I have been researching my family history for  about 10 years, and for much 
of that time I have used a different  genealogy programme. I was never 
completely happy with it, so I've  migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.
 
Initially, I had intended to import all my  existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided  I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the  years, inevitable, 
mistakes and 
errors have occurred, so I thought this would  be a good time to slowly go 
through it all, and make sure everything is  correct.
 
With that in mind I've been giving a bit of  thought on how I set it all up 
on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and  frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the  following.
 
 *My Documents.
 *Family History.
 *My Family History  (Legacy).
 * Certificates.  (Scans of)  
  *Birth.
  *Marriages.

 *Death   
*Census   (Scans of)
 *  UK 1841
 *  UK 1851
  *etc.
  * Parish Records  (Scans of)

*  Photographs.
  *People.
  * Places.
 *Other.
 
Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be  
appreciated.
 
Pat  Molloy






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RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread Larry Wilson

Hi David, 
 
You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals
of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS
locations, from the Internet and books, most are in decimals of degrees
format. Thus, converting them to Legacy format is a pain in the a--. 
 
I use these GPS locations for all my rural cemeteries and farm locations, in
my family they mostly farmers and all were buried in small local
(family)cemeteries. With decimals of degrees I can get down the feet of
finding any thing. 
 
I hope you understand my concern It's just the converting. 
 
When Legacy was gathering input for the new version 7, I suggested having
the choice (option) of either degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes or
decimals of degrees, Geoff liked the idea and e-mail me to say so. But
it never happened. 
 
I was just wondering why. I have copied Geoff on this matter, but he has not
to responded.  

Best, 
 
Larry 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: David 
Date: 06/16/08 00:03:20 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format 
 
 
Larry, 
As a mariner/navigator my opinion is that Millennia are doing it exactly
right. We use degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes. One minute of Lat. =
1 nautical mile so when we talk in minutes we are talking in miles, as it
always has been. The Lat. Scale on the side of nautical charts is in degrees
and minutes therefore, when we measure off that scale we get miles. 
It's just one area where decimalisation doesn't work. Using decimals of
degrees is, to me, all wrong. I don't know why some people do it. 
I'd like to think that Millennia are doing it right for my reasons but I
honestly don't know. 
 
Regards, 
Dave (NZ). 
 
 
 
 
 
From: Larry Wilson 
Sent: Mon 16/06/2008 02:05 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.Com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format 
 
 
Since most of the Internet sites use decimal GPS locations (Latitude: 37 
59778 : Longitude: -92.9), I was wondering why Legacy is locked into 
(DDMMSS.xxx) GPS? 
 
 
 
 
 
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread Cary

I suggest that so long as you are consistent, and have an organized answer
for "what if" issues, what makes sense to you is what's best regardless of
what the rest of us do.  That said - 

 

Be sure your electronic records including Legacy and any other (pictures,
etc) files have some way to tie to the way you have organized your paper
records.  For example, if you look at the Legacy sources for Uncle Zach, be
sure you can find the actual source info from what's on Legacy.  I use
Source ID as the paper filing method, and always enter Source ID on Legacy
and as the first part of the name of Source electronic records.  That is one
of several ways that work so I can always find the sources.

 

In looking at what you have listed below, what is your plan where one source
(like a family bible) has birth, death and marriage info for several people?
So long as you can find the info for everyone when needed, your method could
work, but it looks to me like the same source might have to be recorded more
than once or a reference put in so that finding sources becomes like a
treasure hunt..

 

 

Cary

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat and
Rita Molloy
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

 

I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

 

I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much
of that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never
completely happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a
friend.

 

Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean"
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable,
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

 

With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up
on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to
become one!), and I've come up with the following.

 

 *My Documents.

*Family History.

*My Family History (Legacy).

* Certificates. (Scans of) 

*Birth.

*Marriages.

 *Death 

*Census  (Scans of)

* UK 1841

* UK 1851

*etc.

 * Parish Records (Scans of)

 * Photographs.

*People.

* Places.

*Other.

 

Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be
appreciated.

 

Pat Molloy

 

 

 

 



 





 

   

 



 

 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List

Assigned Source ListDiane...

Open a wordpad window... simply click start then click run and type wordpad and 
hit enter to open this program (or you can even us MS Word).  Go back to legacy 
and get the data to display on the screen like you like it.

Then hit your printscreen button.

Click on the wordpad program and go to edit and paste.

An image will appear in that window where you can print it.

There are also other handy little print screen programs out there I like this 
one a lot.

http://www.gadwin.com/printscreen/

Allen


From: Dianne Myers 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Assigned Source List




Hi 
Is it possible to print a list of the assigned sources just for one individual 
at a time? I would like to print the assigned sources window that pops up when 
you hit the sources icon that is under each individuals information box. 
Thankyou 

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[LegacyUG] Legacy Forum on http://www.geneclub.net


My original message got clipped ... wonder why?

I doubt that there will be official support on there either... hence it's an 
UNOFFICIAL Support forum... ergo... Users helping Users.  And there are some 
VERY good users out there here that can offer a lot of help.


Hope this clears that up.

Allen

--

I doubt that Support will become involved. So how will you be able to 
guarantee authenticity when it comes to suppositions about how the 
software should or should not work? All I can see this being any use for 
is a private area for letting off steam. It will go the way of the 
original Rootsweb Legacy forum i.e. wither away through lack of any real 
support.


User helping user... hence the term unofficial and I truly believe there 
are enough experienced people out there that can help people.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Surnames - Initial Caps

Kathy,
  EXCELLENT!  In the MasterLists (I usually only looked at Location) -
the Surname showed all caps for the Mc* names (I do not know how)
- but a simple EDIT there fixed them all throughout my files.  Nice -
simple fix that worked - just what was needed.
Thanks,
Keith

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Kathy Shiell-Stokes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keith:
> Try VIEW-MasterLists-Surname and then check your spellings for the
> problematic spellings. I am willing to bet that that's where the problem
> is...
> I have found that, especially if I have done major data entry, sometimes mis
> spellings of Surnames creep in and this is the best way to monitor them.
> Kathy
> At 10:09 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> Had the program convert all Surnames to Initial Cap - then lower case.
>>  Worked perfectly - EXCEPT every name beginning with Mc (several
>> hundred of mine) came out McKAIN (Cap first letter, lower case second
>> letter, Cap third letter AND all additional letters.  And when I try
>> to hand correct it starts to correct but flips to ALL CAPS after the
>> small c???  I have the display ALL UPPER CASE - OFF.  Ideas??
>> Keith
>>
>> --
>> Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry
>>
>> Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64
>> EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread Michele Lewis

I am glad I am not the only one! I am trying to get 20 years of research in 
Legacy and standardized.  I used FTM up until their last upgrade which I 
hated.  I have been VERY happy since I have switched to Legacy (Oct 07).  I 
have been working on it since then and I still haven't fixed everything.


michele

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Cc: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


I too wish I had done  lots of things differently when I first started.  I 
had some 40+ years worth of manual files that I entered into my PC back in 
the early 1990's under another program.  When I migrated to Legacy about 2+ 
months ago, I encountered a plethora of details that I wish I had done 
differently.   Now I am trying to rearrange 50-60 years of data into some 
semblance of order.


At present, I am revisiting my data with 'better' intentions of trying to 
clean up the files.  I have 'sort of' got my sources lined up so that I 
can find them when I need to refer to them. That was a monumental task to 
re-classify 50 years worth, but in retrospect, I would have had a hard 
time finding lots of details in my former life!


For the past 2-3 weeks, I have been reentering 'locations' in the 
suggested format - believe me, that is tedious, but necessary for 
consistency and standardization. Putting in 1-2 hours each day, I am about 
3/4 the way through my locations. One wonders how all those places got 
into the files.  I wonder at times when I encounter a note in a location 
field just what I was thinking at the time - not clear thinking obviously.


Legacy is new to me, so I am finding out  the things it can do and it is 
the best program I have used - takes some education, but I think I'm 
beginning see daylight. As the old story goes, though, I hope the light at 
the end of the tunel is not a train coming toward me!! :-)


Bob



Pat,

Welcome.

I will use this oft repeated phrase - I wish I had decided on a decent 
storage system at the time I started! Unfortunately I didn't and now have 
far too many records to even think of putting them in a logical order. 
So, congratulations!


To me your system looks fine and in particular the idea of sorting the UK 
censuses by year is a good one and one which I wish I had used. You may 
like to consider adding a folder(s) for BMD Indexes, I certainly have 
accumulated a lot of these images over the years. If you have lots of 
photos you could consider two folders one being for close family and the 
other for the rest.


I know that your email was not related to back-ups, but please don't 
forget them - remember "If something can go wrong, it will go wrong, and 
at the worst possible time". Legacy puts its .zip back-ups in 
C:\Legacy\Data which, arguably, is not the best place for them but most 
of us also store them both in on-line storage and flash drives/DBDs et. 
etc.


Ron Ferguson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:38:20 +0100





I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.



I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for 
much of that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was 
never completely happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice 
of a friend.




Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time 
to slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.




With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all 
up on the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to 
become one!), and I've come up with the following.




 *My Documents.

*Family History.

*My Family History (Legacy).

* Certificates. (Scans of)
*Birth.

*Marriages.

 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)

* UK 1841

* UK 1851

*etc.

 * Parish Records (Scans of)

 * Photographs.

*People.

* Places.

Re: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

Pat,
I too am new to Legacy and I believe that you will not be disappointed in the 
quality of the product.  With that said, I have been researching my family 
since 2001- I have my computer set up the following way.  
My Documents
   Genealogy
 Each family has their own folder
 in each folder, I have place all
 the scanned or captured documents
   ie.  Crosby - all scanned obits, BMD, Census, 
My Pictures
   Crosby/Erickson Genealogy
 all pictures relating to my research ( I may change this and sort per
 family) I am getting photos from other family members so I now have over 
800 photos relating to 
my research.  

I also use Clooz to record what documents I have so I can fill in the gaps.
There is another product I use from Microsoft called One Note.  One Note is a
virtual file- I have a file named Genealogy with sep. folders for each family, 
thoughts, to do notes, e-mail etc.

I like the MRIN filing system and I am thinking about doing that for all of my 
files in the computer-
ie.  MRIN1-Richard/Barbara Crosby- putting all photos, documents relating to 
this marriage/family.

In the past I made up a 3 ring binder for each family and organized based on 
dates- for that family name- as you may
note that would produce duplicates- ie Richard would have all of the documents 
relating to that family as well as in
the Erickson book for his wife.  I had four binders for each line of my 
Grandparents- the only positive side to this 
method was that if a Crosby ancestor was over to my house I would only show 
them that book- same for each of the 
other binders.

I look forward to hearing how others do this and how they share the info with 
interested family members.

Shelly


- Original Message - 
  From: Pat and Rita Molloy 
  To: Legacy User Group 
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:38 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


  I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

  I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.

  Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

  With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the following.

   *My Documents.
  *Family History.
  *My Family History (Legacy).
  * Certificates. (Scans of) 
  *Birth.
  *Marriages.
   *Death 
  *Census  (Scans of)
  * UK 1841
  * UK 1851
  *etc.
   * Parish Records (Scans of)
   * Photographs.
  *People.
  * Places.
  *Other.

  Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be 
appreciated.

  Pat Molloy




  

  
  

 

  




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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread s2f

I too wish I had done  lots of things differently when I first started.  I had 
some 40+ years worth of manual files that I entered into my PC back in the 
early 1990's under another program.  When I migrated to Legacy about 2+ months 
ago, I encountered a plethora of details that I wish I had done differently.   
Now I am trying to rearrange 50-60 years of data into some semblance of order.

At present, I am revisiting my data with 'better' intentions of trying to clean 
up the files.  I have 'sort of' got my sources lined up so that I can find them 
when I need to refer to them. That was a monumental task to re-classify 50 
years worth, but in retrospect, I would have had a hard time finding lots of 
details in my former life!

For the past 2-3 weeks, I have been reentering 'locations' in the suggested 
format - believe me, that is tedious, but necessary for consistency and 
standardization. Putting in 1-2 hours each day, I am about 3/4 the way through 
my locations. One wonders how all those places got into the files.  I wonder at 
times when I encounter a note in a location field just what I was thinking at 
the time - not clear thinking obviously.  

Legacy is new to me, so I am finding out  the things it can do and it is  the 
best program I have used - takes some education, but I think I'm beginning see 
daylight. As the old story goes, though, I hope the light at the end of the 
tunel is not a train coming toward me!! :-)

Bob

> 
> Pat,
> 
> Welcome.
> 
> I will use this oft repeated phrase - I wish I had decided on a decent 
> storage system at the time I started! Unfortunately I didn't and now have far 
> too many records to even think of putting them in a logical order. So, 
> congratulations!
> 
> To me your system looks fine and in particular the idea of sorting the UK 
> censuses by year is a good one and one which I wish I had used. You may like 
> to consider adding a folder(s) for BMD Indexes, I certainly have accumulated 
> a lot of these images over the years. If you have lots of photos you could 
> consider two folders one being for close family and the other for the rest.
> 
> I know that your email was not related to back-ups, but please don't forget 
> them - remember "If something can go wrong, it will go wrong, and at the 
> worst possible time". Legacy puts its .zip back-ups in C:\Legacy\Data which, 
> arguably, is not the best place for them but most of us also store them both 
> in on-line storage and flash drives/DBDs et. etc.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:38:20 +0100
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.
> 
> 
> 
> I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
> that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
> happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.
> 
> 
> 
> Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
> having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
> installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
> mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
> slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.
> 
> 
> 
> With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
> the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
> one!), and I've come up with the following.
> 
> 
> 
>  *My Documents.
> 
> *Family History.
> 
> *My Family History (Legacy).
> 
> * Certificates. (Scans of)
> *Birth.
> 
> *Marriages.
> 
>  *Death
> *Census  (Scans of)
> 
> * UK 1841
> 
> * UK 1851
> 
> *etc.
> 
>  * Parish Records (Scans of)
> 
>  * Photographs.
> 
> *People.
> 
> * Places.
> 
> *Other.
> 
> 
> 
> Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> Pat Molloy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _
> 
> All new Live Search at Live.com
> 
> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001006ukm

[LegacyUG] Sources

2008-06-16 Thread Michele Lewis

I wanted to say thank you to those at Legacy that were smart enough to make 
it where the new sources done using the Source Writer show up on the list as 
bulleted.  I am adding sources one at a time and they have the same name as 
my old sources.  I can see which are the new entries vs. the old entries at 
a glance. 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Current Age

2008-06-16 Thread Colin Liddell


And it also reminds you of your age when you married.{:-)

At first I thought it was telling me how long I had been married.{;-))

Colin.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Wendy Howard

 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Current Age


 Clancy said "I just do a CTL-A and it displays all the ages..."

 That is *very* cool!  It's been mentioned before, I'm sure, but I hadn't
 remembered it.

 Thanks, Clancy!  :-)

 Wendy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant book printing problem (information written over picture)

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From: "Mike Fry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:24 PM
To: 
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written over picture)

Allen Prunty wrote:
While this is an "unofficial" forum for Legacy Support we have started a 
forum at http://www.genealogyclub.net for those who prefer a forum based 
environment over a list based environment.  We will expand it to help 
more than just legacy users though.

The direct forum url is http://genealogyclub.net/forum

I am starting this as a free alternative for those of us who do this as a 
hobby.

I welcome anyone who is interested.

I doubt that Support will become involved. So how will you be able to 
guarantee authenticity when it comes to suppositions about how the 
software should or should not work? All I can see this being any use for 
is a private area for letting off steam. It will go the way of the 
original Rootsweb Legacy forum i.e. wither away through lack of any real 
support.

User helping user... hence the term unofficial and I truly believe there are 
enough experienced people out there that can help people.

Allen
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RE: [LegacyUG] Index view to Family view

2008-06-16 Thread Janis Gilmore

Mark, I completely agree - except I would like to be able to hit "enter" and
go straight from the index view to the family screen, a habit that I have
been unable to break after using the TMG index for several years.

It's a small thing, but would be much appreciated.

Janis Walker Gilmore

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark K
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:00 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Index view to Family view

At present when I am in index view and I find the person I want I have to
click on them to select them and then click on the Family tab.
 
If I double click on the name it opens up there Individual information which
I do not want.
 
In the Options Customise I can change what a double click does, but I am
happy with how it is set for every other screen, it is only in the Index
View that I want a double click to do something different to the default and
go to family view.
 
Is there a setting somewhere to do this.
 
I am also aware that I can do Alt m
 
Mark





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?

2008-06-16 Thread music-line

Hi Michelle,

I seem to remember reading that Legacy are not making any promises as to
when this will be available.  I reckon this is sensible really, in case they
have to break the promise.

Best wishes

David

*
David S Brookes
Musical Director, The Brewood Singers
www.brewoodsingers.co.uk
Organist & Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey
www.polesworthabbey.co.uk
*


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Lewis
Sent: 16 June 2008 12:26
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?


I have been adding sources using the new source template and so far so good.

However, I need to convert my gazillion old sources over to the new format. 
Someone said that the conversion is not yet available.  Does anyone know 
when it will be available? 




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[LegacyUG] Source Conversion Tool?

2008-06-16 Thread Michele Lewis

I have been adding sources using the new source template and so far so good. 
However, I need to convert my gazillion old sources over to the new format. 
Someone said that the conversion is not yet available.  Does anyone know 
when it will be available? 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy


Pat,

Welcome.

I will use this oft repeated phrase - I wish I had decided on a decent storage 
system at the time I started! Unfortunately I didn't and now have far too many 
records to even think of putting them in a logical order. So, congratulations!

To me your system looks fine and in particular the idea of sorting the UK 
censuses by year is a good one and one which I wish I had used. You may like to 
consider adding a folder(s) for BMD Indexes, I certainly have accumulated a lot 
of these images over the years. If you have lots of photos you could consider 
two folders one being for close family and the other for the rest.

I know that your email was not related to back-ups, but please don't forget 
them - remember "If something can go wrong, it will go wrong, and at the worst 
possible time". Legacy puts its .zip back-ups in C:\Legacy\Data which, 
arguably, is not the best place for them but most of us also store them both in 
on-line storage and flash drives/DBDs et. etc.

Ron Ferguson

_

New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:38:20 +0100





I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.



I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.



Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.



With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the following.



 *My Documents.

*Family History.

*My Family History (Legacy).

* Certificates. (Scans of)
*Birth.

*Marriages.

 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)

* UK 1841

* UK 1851

*etc.

 * Parish Records (Scans of)

 * Photographs.

*People.

* Places.

*Other.



Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be appreciated.



Pat Molloy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging two files

2008-06-16 Thread Melody B

I do as Bob says with some additional things:
1) I name my files with "MergeTo" or "MergeFrom", depending on which the
file represents, appended to the regular names.
2) I renumber all incoming RINs and MRINs with something obvious.  I only
have around 1500 people so far so I have the RINs and MRINs from the
"MergeFrom" file renumbered to 2001.  This way when I'm done with the merge
I can easily tell who did not get merged.  Since I don't have all my
original people memorized, doing a visual check to see if I had new people
always ended in confusion.  True this will alter the incoming RINs and
MRINs, especially on new people.  But then this doesn't bother me, either
because I have so few people at this point or because I wouldn't have cared
what the original RINs and MRINs were in the first place.



On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Robert57P via Gmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> The short answer (sorry - it is late and I should be in bed!):
> * Make sure both are fairly "clean" (i.e.: in each one, clean up as many
> dups, bad spellings, inconsistent locations, clean up any "islands" or extra
> trees if they are bogus (View, TreeFinder, Refresh), etc)
> * Back up both
> * Make a copy of both - make the name obvious that it is a copy (i.e.:
> Wife-Family-copyandHusband-Family-copy   or some such thing)
> * Open one of the copies (i.e.: yours).
> * File - Import - Legacy file(?) and then select the other copy (i.e.: your
> husbands copy)
> * Finish the import (I think it does a merge as it imports . . . )  Be sure
> to look at the import OPTIONS and PRIVACY tabs before you start it
> Then, from the menu:
> * Tools, merge, find duplicates
> * Then look again at any bad spellings, inconsistent locations,
> islands/trees, etc
> * Once happy, rename your original "master" copies to a safe backup name
> * Rename this merged file to remove the spouse indicator and the "copy" in
> the name (i.e.: from "Wife-Family-copy" to "Merged-Family" or "Jones-Family"
> or whatever).
>
> Don't panic, don't sweat it. You are working with copies.  Legacy offers
> some backup assistance.  And, worse case scenario, if you mess something up,
> you can start over again by making new copies and re-doing the import/merge.
>
> Bob
>
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>  Can you tell me step by step the proper way to merge two files?  The two
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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

2008-06-16 Thread Steve

Christine, you are correct I should have said "Archive quality sleeves" cost
a couple of bob more but worth it.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine
Pearce
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 6:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

I can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the
place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to
offer some words concerning general storage issues. 

I learned just how bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of
family documents from my grandfather, and more recent pictures stored by my
parents back in the '60's and '70's in those "magnetic" photo books. 

The chemicals in plastic (petroleum?) "leeches" colours from photos, turning
them yellow and pale. Paper documents also suffer degradation.

I don't know if modern plastics have the same problem, but to be safe I only
use archive-quality supplies. To help cut down on expense, double-up two
documents to a sleeve (back to back) when possible - but never mix modern
paper with older linen-based paper. Perhaps being over-cautious, I also
insert archive-quality cardboard to help protect against damage. (A local
picture framer gives me off-cuts from his photo-mounting work, which has
been a real cost-saving.)

I take a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,
naturalisation, etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD
name and storage locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's
house in case we have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire
safe. I learned this after the home of my parents home burned down and we
lost many treasures.

Michele wrote, "I do not have paper documents for every single marriage
(many marriages are sourced using electronic databases or digital census
records which I do not copy)."

I couldn't make out whether Michele saves things you find on the internet,
but if you don't, please do, as you never know how long the information will
be there! I save them to disk and also print out for storage at another
location.

Just some food for thought...

Christine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: 16 June 2008 08:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

Michele,

I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN order. (Well a lot of it
so far)

No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of the screen labeled "M: X"  X=
Marriage Number.

No1. Yes.

No2. I have been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read
Wal-Mart in US) with the MRIN and Family Names written on the flap.  I store
all my notes and a copy of any certificates in the folder.  I only make up a
folder when I have some notes or documents for the Family so yes I have gaps
in my filing cabinet.  One day I might just be lucky and find some info on
all the "gaps".

No4.  I File all Original Marriage/Death/Birth Certs in Plastic sleeves in a
separate folder and enter the basic info into a couple of databases that I
made. The DB gives me a number eg: MC001 (Marriage Certificate No 1) and I
put this number in the File ID in Legacy.  I put a label on the plastic
sleeve with the File ID, Person's Name & MRIN so I have a quick cross ref
between my folders and Legacy.  This way I am able to see at a glance if I
have entered the data into Legacy or not.

All of the above has come from the LUG group, there is so many wonderful
ideas out there that you can pick and choose bits to suit your own
circumstances and they are all the "Right Way" to do things as long as you
can follow your system.  I hope to use the above with photos as well once I
get them sorted in the next year or so.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 1:30 PM
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

I need to revamp my paper filing system.  Now that I have Legacy 7 I figure 
now is a good time.  I have a couple of questions for those people that use 
Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.

1. Lets say I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all the documents 
related to this marriage in a file folder labeled 420 correct?

2.  On the web site that is recommended to explain this filing system they 
sell file folders labels 1-99.  I have over 1000 marriages in my database. 
I do not have paper documents for every single marriage (many marriages are 
sourced using electronic databases or digital census records which I do not 
copy).  I am thinking that I should just label file folders with the numbers

that I have documents for and who care about the gaps in numbers.

3.  Is there a way to make the MRIN display on the family page?  I see the 
RIN numbers after each person's name but I don't see the MRIN.

4.  Do you use the F

[LegacyUG] Newbie to Legacy

2008-06-16 Thread Pat and Rita Molloy

I am a newbie to Legacy - it arrived in the post on Saturday.

I have been researching my family history for about 10 years, and for much of 
that time I have used a different genealogy programme. I was never completely 
happy with it, so I've migrated to Legacy on the advice of a friend.

Initially, I had intended to import all my existing files into Legacy but 
having given the matter some thought I decided I would do a "clean" 
installation and re-enter all my information. Over the years, inevitable, 
mistakes and errors have occurred, so I thought this would be a good time to 
slowly go through it all, and make sure everything is correct.

With that in mind I've been giving a bit of thought on how I set it all up on 
the computer. I'm no computer wizard (and frankly I've no desire to become 
one!), and I've come up with the following.

 *My Documents.
*Family History.
*My Family History (Legacy).
* Certificates. (Scans of) 
*Birth.
*Marriages.
 *Death
*Census  (Scans of)
* UK 1841
* UK 1851
*etc.
 * Parish Records (Scans of)
 * Photographs.
*People.
* Places.
*Other.

Before I start any thoughts or comments (and improvements) would be appreciated.

Pat Molloy









   



 






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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

2008-06-16 Thread Mark K

Unfortunately the idea of using cds / dvd as an archive medium may not be as 
good as many people believe.  The failure rate after several years is very high 
with either partial or total failure to read the files.
 
With external hard drives and now even 8GB flash drives so cheap these are a 
much better option.
 
Mark
 
> I take a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,> 
> naturalisation, etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD> 
> name and storage locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's> 
> house in case we have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire> 
> safe. 

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: 
> RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:54:26 +0100> > I 
> can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the> 
> place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to> 
> offer some words concerning general storage issues. > > I learned just how 
> bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of> family documents from 
> my grandfather, and more recent pictures stored by my> parents back in the 
> '60's and '70's in those "magnetic" photo books. > > The chemicals in plastic 
> (petroleum?) "leeches" colours from photos, turning> them yellow and pale. 
> Paper documents also suffer degradation.> > I don't know if modern plastics 
> have the same problem, but to be safe I only> use archive-quality supplies. 
> To help cut down on expense, double-up two> documents to a sleeve (back to 
> back) when possible - but never mix modern> paper with older linen-based 
> paper. Perhaps being over-cautious, I also> insert archive-quality cardboard 
> to help protect against damage. (A local> picture framer gives me off-cuts 
> from his photo-mounting work, which has> been a real cost-saving.)> > I take 
> a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,> naturalisation, 
> etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD> name and storage 
> locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's> house in case we 
> have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire> safe. I learned this 
> after the home of my parents home burned down and we> lost many treasures.> > 
> Michele wrote, "I do not have paper documents for every single marriage> 
> (many marriages are sourced using electronic databases or digital census> 
> records which I do not copy)."> > I couldn't make out whether Michele saves 
> things you find on the internet,> but if you don't, please do, as you never 
> know how long the information will> be there! I save them to disk and also 
> print out for storage at another> location.> > Just some food for thought...> 
> > Christine> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve> Sent: 16 June 2008 08:00> To: 
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing 
> system> > Michele,> > I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN 
> order. (Well a lot of it> so far)> > No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of 
> the screen labeled "M: X" X=> Marriage Number.> > No1. Yes.> > No2. I have 
> been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read> Wal-Mart in 
> US) with the MRIN and Family Names written on the flap. I store> all my notes 
> and a copy of any certificates in the folder. I only make up a> folder when I 
> have some notes or documents for the Family so yes I have gaps> in my filing 
> cabinet. One day I might just be lucky and find some info on> all the 
> "gaps".> > No4. I File all Original Marriage/Death/Birth Certs in Plastic 
> sleeves in a> separate folder and enter the basic info into a couple of 
> databases that I> made. The DB gives me a number eg: MC001 (Marriage 
> Certificate No 1) and I> put this number in the File ID in Legacy. I put a 
> label on the plastic> sleeve with the File ID, Person's Name & MRIN so I have 
> a quick cross ref> between my folders and Legacy. This way I am able to see 
> at a glance if I> have entered the data into Legacy or not.> > All of the 
> above has come from the LUG group, there is so many wonderful> ideas out 
> there that you can pick and choose bits to suit your own> circumstances and 
> they are all the "Right Way" to do things as long as you> can follow your 
> system. I hope to use the above with photos as well once I> get them sorted 
> in the next year or so.> > Steve> > -Original Message-> From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele> Lewis> Sent: 
> Monday, 16 June 2008 1:30 PM> To: Legacy E-Mail List> Subject: [LegacyUG] 
> MRIN filing system> > I need to revamp my paper filing system. Now that I 
> have Legacy 7 I figure > now is a good time. I have a couple of questions for 
> those people that use > Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.> > 1. Lets say 
> I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all

Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error

2008-06-16 Thread Jenny M Benson



Art Seddon wrote

Potential Problems is giving:
"There may be a Title entered in the Name field, such as 'Jr.', 'M.D.',
'Rev.' or Dr.'.  Remove the title from the Name field and enter it into
a Title field." error when Title is properly entered in the "Title
pre." field.


What have you got in the Name field?
--
Jenny M Benson

Title pre.:  "Lady"
Given:   "[GNU]"  (Which is what I used in V6 for Given Name Unknown)
Surname:   "FLEMING"
Title suf.:"Mistress Of James IV"

I have the Given:   "[GNU]"  numerous times and it does not trigger a
Potential Problem.
I also use [LNU] - Last Name Unknown and [MNU] - Maiden Name Unknown with no
problems.

Hope you can help.


I think it must be a glitch somewhere in you own file, although I 
wouldn't have a clue what or where.  I just put all those same names 
into my Test file and ran a PPR with all options checked and nothing 
came up for that record except a warning about using all caps.


Sorry I can't be more help.
--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system


Christine,

You are correct in saying that unless archive quality sleeves are used the 
plasticisers used in the sleeve will damage photos. With "Magnetic" albums 
there is a double whammy as both the adhesive and plastic will attack them!


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:54:26 +0100
>
> I can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the
> place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to
> offer some words concerning general storage issues.
>
> I learned just how bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of
> family documents from my grandfather, and more recent pictures stored by my
> parents back in the '60's and '70's in those "magnetic" photo books.
>
> The chemicals in plastic (petroleum?) "leeches" colours from photos, turning
> them yellow and pale. Paper documents also suffer degradation.
>
> I don't know if modern plastics have the same problem, but to be safe I only
> use archive-quality supplies. To help cut down on expense, double-up two
> documents to a sleeve (back to back) when possible - but never mix modern
> paper with older linen-based paper. Perhaps being over-cautious, I also
> insert archive-quality cardboard to help protect against damage. (A local
> picture framer gives me off-cuts from his photo-mounting work, which has
> been a real cost-saving.)
>
> I take a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,
> naturalisation, etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD
> name and storage locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's
> house in case we have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire
> safe. I learned this after the home of my parents home burned down and we
> lost many treasures.
>
> Michele wrote, "I do not have paper documents for every single marriage
> (many marriages are sourced using electronic databases or digital census
> records which I do not copy)."
>
> I couldn't make out whether Michele saves things you find on the internet,
> but if you don't, please do, as you never know how long the information will
> be there! I save them to disk and also print out for storage at another
> location.
>
> Just some food for thought...
>
> Christine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: 16 June 2008 08:00
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system
>
> Michele,
>
> I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN order. (Well a lot of it
> so far)
>
> No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of the screen labeled "M: X" X=
> Marriage Number.
>
> No1. Yes.
>
> No2. I have been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read
> Wal-Mart in US) with the MRIN and Family Names written on the flap. I store
> all my notes and a copy of any certificates in the folder. I only make up a
> folder when I have some notes or documents for the Family so yes I have gaps
> in my filing cabinet. One day I might just be lucky and find some info on
> all the "gaps".
>
> No4. I File all Original Marriage/Death/Birth Certs in Plastic sleeves in a
> separate folder and enter the basic info into a couple of databases that I
> made. The DB gives me a number eg: MC001 (Marriage Certificate No 1) and I
> put this number in the File ID in Legacy. I put a label on the plastic
> sleeve with the File ID, Person's Name & MRIN so I have a quick cross ref
> between my folders and Legacy. This way I am able to see at a glance if I
> have entered the data into Legacy or not.
>
> All of the above has come from the LUG group, there is so many wonderful
> ideas out there that you can pick and choose bits to suit your own
> circumstances and they are all the "Right Way" to do things as long as you
> can follow your system. I hope to use the above with photos as well once I
> get them sorted in the next year or so.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
> Lewis
> Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 1:30 PM
> To: Legacy E-Mail List
> Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system
>
> I need to revamp my paper filing system. Now that I have Legacy 7 I figure
> now is a good time. I have a couple of questions for those people that use
> Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.
>
> 1. Lets say I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all the documents
> related to this marriage in a file folder labeled 420 correct?
>
> 2. On the web site that

RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Pearce

Darlene, I'm been having many difficulties with Ancestry images as well,
although my particular problem seems intermittent. It started when they
upgraded the site with enhanced searching.

I don't know if this is applicable to a frozen screen, but could your
Internet Security and/or Block Pop-ups settings be causing this?

You could try posting a query at their message board, but in my experience
you won't get a response. You could call them, but again I find it difficult
to get through. That said, I'm in the UK and their local number seems to be
quite responsive.

Good luck,
Christine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darlene &
Don Hicks
Sent: 16 June 2008 06:51
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning
Ancestry.com!

Hi
   I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer.  I had automatic
updates on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with
service pack three.  Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My
Dell desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me.  I had
two viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs
reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now.  When I first did
searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine,
but when I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again!  Norton 360 is up
and running and I have no threats.  I went into Ancestry image viewer and
deleted it, but it made no change in my access to images.  There are
probably more files hidden.  Can someone please give me a heads up on what
could be the problem?  I payed $300 for another year with Ancestry.com in
March and not getting the census images is a real bummer!  Thanks for any
and all
 help with this problem!

Darlene
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

2008-06-16 Thread Christine Pearce

I can't offer specific advice on a numbering system, as mine is all over the
place at the minute. However, the mention of plastic sleeves compelled me to
offer some words concerning general storage issues. 

I learned just how bad plastic sleeves can be when I inherited a lot of
family documents from my grandfather, and more recent pictures stored by my
parents back in the '60's and '70's in those "magnetic" photo books. 

The chemicals in plastic (petroleum?) "leeches" colours from photos, turning
them yellow and pale. Paper documents also suffer degradation.

I don't know if modern plastics have the same problem, but to be safe I only
use archive-quality supplies. To help cut down on expense, double-up two
documents to a sleeve (back to back) when possible - but never mix modern
paper with older linen-based paper. Perhaps being over-cautious, I also
insert archive-quality cardboard to help protect against damage. (A local
picture framer gives me off-cuts from his photo-mounting work, which has
been a real cost-saving.)

I take a digital photos of original documents (marriage certs,
naturalisation, etc.) and photographs used in Legacy, and write the file/CD
name and storage locations on the sleeves. Back-up is stored at my brother's
house in case we have a fire at our place, and he puts them in his fire
safe. I learned this after the home of my parents home burned down and we
lost many treasures.

Michele wrote, "I do not have paper documents for every single marriage
(many marriages are sourced using electronic databases or digital census
records which I do not copy)."

I couldn't make out whether Michele saves things you find on the internet,
but if you don't, please do, as you never know how long the information will
be there! I save them to disk and also print out for storage at another
location.

Just some food for thought...

Christine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: 16 June 2008 08:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

Michele,

I have just converted/sorted all my junk into MRIN order. (Well a lot of it
so far)

No3. The MRIN is shown at the bottom of the screen labeled "M: X"  X=
Marriage Number.

No1. Yes.

No2. I have been using File Folders bought from the local Big W store (Read
Wal-Mart in US) with the MRIN and Family Names written on the flap.  I store
all my notes and a copy of any certificates in the folder.  I only make up a
folder when I have some notes or documents for the Family so yes I have gaps
in my filing cabinet.  One day I might just be lucky and find some info on
all the "gaps".

No4.  I File all Original Marriage/Death/Birth Certs in Plastic sleeves in a
separate folder and enter the basic info into a couple of databases that I
made. The DB gives me a number eg: MC001 (Marriage Certificate No 1) and I
put this number in the File ID in Legacy.  I put a label on the plastic
sleeve with the File ID, Person's Name & MRIN so I have a quick cross ref
between my folders and Legacy.  This way I am able to see at a glance if I
have entered the data into Legacy or not.

All of the above has come from the LUG group, there is so many wonderful
ideas out there that you can pick and choose bits to suit your own
circumstances and they are all the "Right Way" to do things as long as you
can follow your system.  I hope to use the above with photos as well once I
get them sorted in the next year or so.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2008 1:30 PM
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

I need to revamp my paper filing system.  Now that I have Legacy 7 I figure 
now is a good time.  I have a couple of questions for those people that use 
Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.

1. Lets say I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all the documents 
related to this marriage in a file folder labeled 420 correct?

2.  On the web site that is recommended to explain this filing system they 
sell file folders labels 1-99.  I have over 1000 marriages in my database. 
I do not have paper documents for every single marriage (many marriages are 
sourced using electronic databases or digital census records which I do not 
copy).  I am thinking that I should just label file folders with the numbers

that I have documents for and who care about the gaps in numbers.

3.  Is there a way to make the MRIN display on the family page?  I see the 
RIN numbers after each person's name but I don't see the MRIN.

4.  Do you use the File ID for anything?

Any other advice?  I want to integrate my filing system with Legacy 7 as 
much as possible so that I can find stuff better. 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning Ancestry.com!


Darlene,

This is well off topic and I am only answering on list because this is becoming 
an increasing problem, so my apologies to those who know it all.

This has nothing to do with Ancestry or any other software, but is a known 
problem between Dell and Microsoft - when SP3 is installed it also affects some 
AMD processors and other systems. You need to get rid of SP3 - easier said than 
done, and a complete uninstall of the o/s may be necessary. You are best 
advised to contact Dell and Microsoft.

Microsoft even publish a tool which will stop SP3 automatically installing for 
12 months.


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> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:50:40 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Off topic, but need help, off of this list, concerning 
> Ancestry.com!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> Hi
> I cannot see the images on Ancestry.com, any longer. I had automatic updates 
> on my Windows XP Service pack two and it downloaded the update with service 
> pack three. Over the weekend I had all kinds of problenms with My Dell 
> desktop computer and finally got Dell tech support to help me. I had two 
> viruses while I had Norton turned off, for 1/2 a day and so the techs 
> reinstalled Windows and I have service pack 2, now. When I first did 
> searches, at Ancestry.com, last evening, it accessed the census images fine, 
> but when I tried it today, it freezes the screen, again! Norton 360 is up and 
> running and I have no threats. I went into Ancestry image viewer and deleted 
> it, but it made no change in my access to images. There are probably more 
> files hidden. Can someone please give me a heads up on what could be the 
> problem? I payed $300 for another year with Ancestry.com in March and not 
> getting the census images is a real bummer! Thanks for any and all
> help with this problem!
>
> Darlene
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error

If Legacy isn't giving you a hint (RIN or MRIN number or such), you might 
want to try exporting your file to a GEDCOM.
Then, open that GEDCOM in a text editor (notepad, or even MS-Word or any 
other word-processor)

Do a find on GIVN
Repeat the find to look at all the GIVN entries for anything weird

(You might instead want to try reading the GEDCOM into EXCEL, parsing the 
first 2 characters into 1 column and the rest into another.  Then you can 
sort on the second column to get all the GIVN entries lumped together.)


Bob

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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems error



Hi Jenny, answer below

Art Seddon wrote

Potential Problems is giving:
"There may be a Title entered in the Name field, such as 'Jr.', 'M.D.',
'Rev.' or Dr.'.  Remove the title from the Name field and enter it into
a Title field." error when Title is properly entered in the "Title
pre." field.


What have you got in the Name field?
--
Jenny M Benson

Title pre.:  "Lady"
Given:   "[GNU]"  (Which is what I used in V6 for Given Name Unknown)
Surname:   "FLEMING"
Title suf.:"Mistress Of James IV"

I have the Given:   "[GNU]"  numerous times and it does not trigger a
Potential Problem.
I also use [LNU] - Last Name Unknown and [MNU] - Maiden Name Unknown with 
no

problems.

Hope you can help.

Thanks,
Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall Legacy

Sounds like you may have installed Legacy twice in 2 different folders (The 
one that still runs - is it your current version?  For example, maybe you 
installed version 7 in a different folder from version 6, and have now 
uninstalled version 7 but version 6 is what "still runs" - or vice-versa)


Once you've uninstalled it, how are you starting it?  If it is a shortcut, 
look at the properties of that shortcut to see where it is running from. 
Then go to that folder and see if there is an UNINSTALL program (sometimes 
called "UNWISE.EXE".  (Note - while you are looking at the properties of the 
icon/shortcut - you can probably click the FIND TARGET button to go straight 
to that folder/directory.)  BE SURE YOU ARE IN A LEGACY folder before you 
click the uninstall program!  Many programs give the uninstall utility the 
same name!


Or - search for:
  Legacy.exe
on your computer, see where it is found.  Then go into those folders and 
look for an uninstall program.  Again, make sure you are actually in a 
Legacy folder.


If in doubt, contact your neighbor/family computer geek for assistance.

Bob

- Original Message - 
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To: "legacyusergroup" 
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall Legacy



I received error 339 for a missing MSCOMCTL.OCX file.
The Legacy site suggests uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy.
After uninstalling, I can still start Legacy - it's still there
I have tried both the uninstall exe from Legacy and the Add/Remove
programs from the Control Panel and Legacy is still there.
What do I do now?



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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system

2008-06-16 Thread music-line

Hi Michelle,

1. Yes, that is what I do.

2. Yes, that is what I do.

3. The MRIN number is the one at the bottom, right of the time, left of the
date.  There are three sets of numbers e.g. H:1  M:1  W:44.  The MRIN is M:1
(MRIN 1).  I think this is the default setting as it seems like mine version
has always been like this.

4. Not as far as I can remember!

You might know this already, but the MRIN is also stated on the Marriage
List (if you want a list view).  Go to view and select marriage list.  I
have found it easier to create a 'Marriage List Icon' at the top of the
screen.

With regard to actual filing, I don't bother with the specially made items.
Why pay the extra money?  I just buy some cheap pocket files from the
stationers and number them with just the numbers of ther files I am using.
I just keep them in numerical order and it still looks neat.  It serves my
small database quite well.  I can't see any reason I would want to  change
this system, but perhaps I might think of one, one day.

Best of luck with this and your research.


Best wishes

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-Original Message-
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Lewis
Sent: 16 June 2008 04:30
To: Legacy E-Mail List
Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN filing system


I need to revamp my paper filing system.  Now that I have Legacy 7 I figure 
now is a good time.  I have a couple of questions for those people that use 
Legacy and use the MRIN filing system.

1. Lets say I am working with MRIN #420 all I do is file all the documents 
related to this marriage in a file folder labeled 420 correct?

2.  On the web site that is recommended to explain this filing system they 
sell file folders labels 1-99.  I have over 1000 marriages in my database. 
I do not have paper documents for every single marriage (many marriages are 
sourced using electronic databases or digital census records which I do not 
copy).  I am thinking that I should just label file folders with the numbers

that I have documents for and who care about the gaps in numbers.

3.  Is there a way to make the MRIN display on the family page?  I see the 
RIN numbers after each person's name but I don't see the MRIN.

4.  Do you use the File ID for anything?

Any other advice?  I want to integrate my filing system with Legacy 7 as 
much as possible so that I can find stuff better. 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging two files