Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
To be honest I have switched back to the classic layout. Only because I like being able to interact with the columns so I can just whizz up and down the subjects. Makes it much quicker when you get so much mail to red. I do find this version of mail more buggy and less responsive than the Snow Leopard version though, so let's hope that get's addressed in time. It is a million times better than Windows Live Mail or Outlook Express :) On 28 Feb 2012, at 13:19, Ricardo Walker wrote: Why didn't you just go back to Mails classic layout then? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com wrote: I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why I was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I hadn't run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just restored that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow Leopard than it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. None of that busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, Goodin, Donna dgoo...@umich.edu wrote: Hey Kawal, I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem you describe at all. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Seri on the Mac?
Well you have guessed it, it will be part of Mac OS x 10.8 (Lynx) :) Well I would not be surprised if Apple did licence more Nuance speech to text stuff for the Mac, and perhaps some built in OCR so we can read graphics and DVD menus just like JAWS 13 Let's hope VO gets a complete rewrite on the Mac though, the buffering is a joke. Chris On 24 Oct 2011, at 10:59, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hey All, What do you all reckon about having Seri on the Mac? I myself would love it. Just imagine, rather than typing, dictating e-mails and more! Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Quick Tip for Those Now Using Control-Tab in Lion Mail 7.2
You can also use VO+J to jump to the message area. On 22 Oct 2011, at 09:24, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, As has been noted in previous messages, it is now necessary to add the [Control] key to the [Tab] key in order to quickly jump to the Message Content Area when Lion 7.2 Mail is set to its default 3-column view. Let's hope that Apple addresses this so that we can, once again, return to only needing to press the [Tab] key to accomplish this jump. For those of us using an Apple keyboard that only has one [Control] key, said key being on the same side of the keyboard as the [Tab] key, this new key combination can quickly become uncomfortable. I am delighted to report that, for the time being at least, you can use the [Command]+[Option] keys as modifiers to the [Tab] in order to quickly jump to the Message Content Area; this means that you can press the [Command]+[Option] keys on the right side of the Spacebar while tapping the [Tab] key, iliminating the need to press the [Control] key altogether. Mark PS I wonder how many times I can squeeze the word key in to one paragraph? (Smile). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Editing MIDI Events In Garage Band
Sadly there is nothing on the Mac currently that let's you edit MIDI events with VO. It is an area we are all hoping will add. My advice for now is write to accessibil...@apple.com requesting the feature to become accessible in GB and also visit www.apple.com/feedback and select GB, and provide feedback requesting access to MIDI events for VO users. Chris On 18 Oct 2011, at 11:32, Gavin wrote: Hi guys, Is there a way to accessibly edit MIDI events in Garage Band? I'm looking for a kind of equivalent to the event list view in Sonar. Does Garage Band have anything like this? I want to be able to change the length, pitch, velocity, and position of notes in a track. If Garage Band won't cut it, would I be able to use either Logic or Pro Tools? Regards, Gavin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Editing MIDI Events In Garage Band
I don't think you can export the files, I think the only way around this is to open the file in Logic if you have it, and then export it from there. Am sure someone will chime in here if I am wrong. Chris On 18 Oct 2011, at 12:02, Gavin wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for the reply. It's quite a pity that I can't currently edit MIDI events. I hoped that this would be another area where Mac accessibility is excellent, but I guess I'll have to find another solution. Do you know of a way to export the MIDI used by GB to a file so I can perhaps edit it in Sonar on Windows? Regards, Gavin On 18 Oct 2011, at 12:50 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Sadly there is nothing on the Mac currently that let's you edit MIDI events with VO. It is an area we are all hoping will add. My advice for now is write to accessibil...@apple.com requesting the feature to become accessible in GB and also visit www.apple.com/feedback and select GB, and provide feedback requesting access to MIDI events for VO users. Chris On 18 Oct 2011, at 11:32, Gavin wrote: Hi guys, Is there a way to accessibly edit MIDI events in Garage Band? I'm looking for a kind of equivalent to the event list view in Sonar. Does Garage Band have anything like this? I want to be able to change the length, pitch, velocity, and position of notes in a track. If Garage Band won't cut it, would I be able to use either Logic or Pro Tools? Regards, Gavin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.
I had issues moving mobileme to iCloud and tried all day yesterday. I just tried 30 minutes ago and worked this time. I have even successfully backed up my iPhone 3GS to the cloud, so no more having to plug my phone into iTunes. Give it another go. Chris On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:06, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: can't even se up I cloud using my I phone 4. I'm glad ow'm getting rid of it as the 4 S may be better. I can't even syc the device wirelessly with Itunes. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Oct 2011, at 03:09 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello, It's been saying moving data for over 8 hours/ OK: 1. Assuming that you initiated the move from the web via Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer, etc, closing the browser would make no difference as all of this takes place at Apple's end of the proverbial connection so, if you have not done so, go ahead and close all your devices down, including your computer. 2. Restart your computer of choice and then point your browser of choice to www.icloud.com and login with your username and password. You should then see any data was transferred from your Mobile Me account. 3. Assuming the following 2 steps go well, then begin logging into that same account on your various devices. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud. Hi: It isn't working for me. I keep seeing moving data. That was 8 hours agai. On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Kawal, et al. I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today. Instead of using either my Mac, PC, or IOS device, I launched my browser of choice, Internet Explorer 8 (Windows 7), and pointed it to: http://me.com/move I simply followed the on-screen prompts and all went perfectly. For those of us who wish to use iCloud data with Outlook 2007 or 2010, we must install the iCloud Control Panel. While it is not necessary to remove the Mobile Me Control Panel from Windows 7, I suggest that you do so after successfully configuring the iCloud Control Panel for Windows 7. Also, I helped a friend make the move from Mobile Me to iCloud; I used VoiceOver with Safari on her Mac to move her account. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:25 AM To: mobileacc...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries Subject: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud. Hi All. I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud. I cloud website is not accessible. Anyone else having this problem? Kawal. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email
Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn
I totally love listening to Ivan and Kevin. They just provide the plain truth good or bad. No nonsense, just how I like it being british. Ivan, if you are reading, really happy you have managed to regain some useful vision. Hope this does not mean you will no longer be helping us improve VO on the various Apple devices including Mac. Also curious to know what your eye condition is and how your sight was restored. Cheers Chris On 13 Oct 2011, at 10:15, Paul Erkens wrote: Dear listers, For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will talk you through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is also mac related, and because one of the guys is a beta tester, you get sort of an inside report on how Apple handles feedback in the mobile area. If you're interested in ios 5, you plan on updating and want to know what's coming etc, I would recommend giving it a listen. The podcast is well done, clean, and in easy tempo. Very nice to hear, even if your native language is not English. If you want to subscribe to the podcast feed, and you want to hear previous episodes as well, you can subscribe in itunes by putting the source table on podcasts, which is the fifth row, move to the right to the search field, type in VoiceOverOn which is all one word, hit enter, and then in the right pane, verrify that itunes found the podcast, hit subscribe, let it download the latest episode and you can start listening. Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Keyboard equivalent of 2 finger flick down gesture??
Press control + option + A On 26 Sep 2011, at 06:23, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi all, Is there a command to read all from cursor like 2 finger flick down on trackpad? I thought of adding it as a braille display command but could not find it in the list of available commands. Thanks, Ioana (Sent from my phone) Please check out my new CD at www.ioanagandrabur.com or on itunes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is there a manual eject button anywhere on the MBP?
You can eject a disc whilst holding the mouse button down on a Mac with a mouse attached. Hold down the mouse button (left if you have two) and then power up keeping the button pressed. Am not sure if this works on a MBP whilst holding down the trackpad instead. On 16 Sep 2011, at 12:52, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Donna, Unfortunately, there's no way to physically eject the disc without having the machine turned on, since the only way you can do it is with the eject button. Also, why would you need Apple to reinstall the OS? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 6:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Is there a manual eject button anywhere on the MBP? Hi all, OK, since I seem to be out of options here, I don't know what to do except take the MBP into the Apple Store and have them reinstall the OS. But I don't want to travel with a DVD in the drive. Is there a manual eject button anywhere on this thing? thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Switching Between Open Pages in Safari
Press VO + F2 and that will let you switch between open windows. Just use the arrow up and down keys to select which window you wish to bring into focus and hit enter On 16 Sep 2011, at 17:00, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, folk, Just when I think I've figured this out, I'm bumbling around again. Is there a reliable way to switch between open pages in Safari, or is this an unstable option? Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes 10.4.1 is out
This version seems lightning fast, I would even say faster than 10.3. The column browser is still read out by VO as the playlist browser though and we still can't read the About iTunes window. Well done Apple though, iTunes now is a joy to use again. On 22 Aug 2011, at 22:28, Darcy Burnard wrote: Apple has just released iTunes 10.4.1. A lot of the problems with iTunes in Lion seem to have been fixed with this update. It feels much more responsive, first letter navigation is back, and you can move through the sources list without interacting. Darcy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garageband jampacks and other plugins?
Isn't it about time Apple brought out some new ones? I think I bought mine in 2004! *looks in Ricardo's GB folder for those trax I was after :p On 18 Aug 2011, at 15:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, you can't buy the jam packs via the Mac app store at present to my knowledge. But you can pick them up anywhere online. try Amazon. As far as Plugins, you can't use VSTs on garageband. They have to be AU plugins. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:50 PM, anouk radix wrote: Hi, I ordered my macbook air 11 inch with i7 processor today and because I am still a student I got 100 euro discount and 75 euro discount as itunes gift card. The thing I am looking forward the most, when the air arrives, is toying with garageband. I know apple itself developed 5 jampacks for garageband and I was wondering how you can buy these? Will I be able to use my itunes credit for it/are they in-app purchases. I was also wondering if third party developers have msfre plugins for garageband (extra instruments maybe) and if you can use third party plugins made for other programs for example through the vst format? Thanks in advance Greetings, Anouk, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Installed Windows7 Alone.
I don't mean to be rude guys, bud isn't it off topic for a Apple Mac list to discuss how to install Windows 7? On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:29, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Chris! Sorry but someone else posted about the sighted help! They snuck in and if you still have the older post's you can see who it was I think it was someone called Cody! hth Colin On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:11, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, so here's my thing, here is where I am getting stuck: You initially said: this next screen will be for the partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D So I'm kind a confused here. Do I need to go into alt+D for advanced? And once in there do I need to tab around to get to the list of Partitions? If not, then how do I make absolutely sure I am not going to format my OSX volume, thus totally blowing Lion outta the water like I've been doing every blasted time I try in the past. I'm sorry but there is no margin here for error. I've gotta do this correctly first go. Also once in the list, you said the last option was the bootcamp partition. I will only have 2 partitions once I use the assistant to create the partition. I'll have the main extended journaled which is my startup partition for Lion, then I'll have the other partition which I'll make for Windows 7. So do I need to some how tab to the list, then down arrow to get to the bootcamp partition? See, this is where I'm really getting myself very confused. Do I even need to fool with the advanced button. further, you didn't say how to next my way past the partition screen, unless I over-looked it, which is possible. Thanks. Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just really wanna do this badly, and with your help, I'm so close, it's just this one part of your directions that is still a bit grey to me. Thank you ever so much for your continuing help. Chris. - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:09 AM Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone. Maybe you are mixing me with somebody else, I did it completely alone. From an earlier experience when I had sighted people I knew that it is impossible to format with my oem dvd that's why I used firewire to accomplish the goal. Original message: Two questions, which key's gonna be my alt key? Command? or, option? Secondly, you said you didn't need any sighted help, yet now you say you did, as you had to have someone click advanced. Please don't take this rudely, but what the heck. I'm confused, did you or did you not need sighted help. Sorry, but I'm not doing this, until I know I can do it 100% on my own. Your instructions are great, but when I get to the partition manager, that's where I'm getting stuck. I'm not getting what then I gotta do. Chris. - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Installed Windows7 Alone. The firewire came into play in my case because I couldn't find a way to format the bootcamp partition whatsoever and windows refused to install to a none-formatted bootcamp partition. Bare in mind I am using the oem version win7 home premium 32bits. Original message: You can install 7 no problem without a firewire port. you just open bootcamp assistant, split your hard drive in half, because 20gb will not be enough for windows. When the system reboots, it will automatically boot into the windows setup so wait until you stop hearing the drive spin and the first screen will probably be the language chooser or the installer. In any case, press enter, then alt + I. the next screen is the license agreement, press alt + A and then alt + N for next. this next screen will be for the partition chooser, and for me I had to have someone click advanced, then format, on the bootcamp partition, which I think is where the fire wire thing came into play. for me the bootcamp partition was the last in the list, and I don't remember the command to hit advanced I think it is alt+D but don't hold me to that. then the format button I'm not sure of. After that you can press alt + N to go to next and the install should continue. This will take a while, and if you've got no vision, I'm not sure how you'll know you're at the setup screen, but at that point you may be able to use narrator, but in my case I couldn't because I didn't have any sound drivers installed. Maybe if you left a USB headset plugged in windows would detect it and install the drivers and then you could use narrator that way. HTH Cody -
Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
Donna, One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, is that it does not have a memory card reader. This is done via a USB dongle instead. Not sure if this is important to you. I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring. I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now. If Apple are heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad. Now that's the baby I want. A keyboard with a touch screen all in one. Chris On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Mika, The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages. It has a bigger hard drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot. As Ricardo pointed out, it also has better sound. With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or ether net via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware you need to haul around. The Air is a great portable device, but the MacBook is a more powerful computer, with more features built-in. Cheers, Donna On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)? Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed of the machine, etc? Thanks, Mika -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc. CB On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Chris, In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to haul around. But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping my MBP to and from work. Every class I teach is in a different building, and all those buildings are different from the building where my office is. So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, along with a braille display. I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook. So I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just getting the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of portability. Cheers, Donna On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it wasn't that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those computer bags with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my shoulder. I finally picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have really liked it. Very comfortable and more pockets to lose things in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been several years now but the one I got is still available: http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameviewid=3566552 Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so you have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. I guess it's no worse than many web shopping carts. CB On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in the next several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously considering shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air. I'm looking at one of the new ones, with all the specs maxed out. My MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram. I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can give me an accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models. A couple of the things I'm wondering about are: 1. Speed. How will day-today- use compare. My MBP has the faster processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume will compensate, at least to some extent. 2. Sound quality? this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how the two compare. If there are any other differences that people have experienced, either good or bad, I'd love to hear. Best, Donna P.S. I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something I can live with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Ricardo, you are too damn sensible! I think logical is your middle name young man :) PS I still want ya bonus beats from those podcasts On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:17, Ricardo Walker wrote: Right, Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Right, Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
Re: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users
Or should I say, that is what he implied, he's a smart cookie :) On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:24, Chris Moore wrote: Ricardo did not say that, he said if you turn the screen curtain on it will turn itself off after a reboot, this behaves the same way on iOS devices too. On 12 Aug 2011, at 18:19, Kristyn Leigh wrote: That's not true on my Macbook air running Lion. If I set the screen brightness to 0, it stays there when I reboot. On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Right, Its not possible to turn off the display as it were, without locking the device. I guess they figured, why would anyone want such a feature. You would have a lot of paniced sighted folks. lol. On the Mac, restarting your macbook will turn back up screen brightness. But there's no intuitive way to restart an iPhone without sight unless your a voiceover user. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:12 AM, Chris Moore wrote: If only we could turn the screen brightness down to complete zero on the iPhone too (it is still visible with the brightness way down). On 12 Aug 2011, at 08:06, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Just like to add to this, If using a macbook, turning on screen curtain is not a substitute for turning down screen brightness in regards to battery conservation. If all you do is turn on screen curtain, your display is still blazing away just with well, a black curtain over it. lol. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:09 AM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Johnny, You can enable/disable the screen curtain on the MacBook Pro by triple-finger, triple-tapping the track pad. Mark On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:39 PM, John Chilelli wrote: Hi! How does one enable and disable the screen curtain? Thanks, Johnny On Jul 24, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi! Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I've already confirmed more than once that my keyboard's backlight is completely turned off. I have light perception, and am about 95 percent definite that the backlight is not glowing at all. Same with the screen. I keep brightness at 0 and also enable the screen curtain. It's an excellent suggestion, though, and I hope it helps someone. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IMPORTANT: To MacBook Pro Lion Users Hello Everyone, After posting my last message to the list regarding the increase in heat generated on my MBP since installing Lion and the definite lessening of battery life, I took a closer look at my MBP and discovered what I hope will prove to be useful to you. F Y I: Until yesterday, I was running Lion on an external FireWire drive and did not notice the increase in heat since the computer is always sitting on my desk when running Lion. Additionally, when I have the FireWire connected, I also have the power cable connected. Anyway, and I have confirmed this twice on my MBP and I called a friend who installed Lion this morning and she confirmed the same, said same being: The backlight on the MBP keyboard is set to on when Lion is first installed. Now I want to be clear, I keep my keyboard backlight off and so it was when I upgraded to Lion. However, when I looked closely at my keyboard, today, I discovered that while it was dimmed, it was not set as it had been before the upgrade. After I turn the backlight off/or to its lowest setting, the increase in heat went away. So, I recommend that those of you noticing a change in heat/battery drain confirm that your MBP keyboard backlights are set as they were before upgrading/installing Lion. F5 and F6 decrease and increase keyboard backlight, respectively. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group
Re: double reading of linked text in safari reader
Mary, I can confirm this issue no longer happens with Lion. I used to experience the same problems whilst reading UK online newspapers. Am pleased to say that annoying issue is now history. That Macworld article read flawlessly. Chris On 8 Aug 2011, at 21:38, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, I used the following link http://www.macworld.com/article/161585/2011/08/four_changes_id_like_to_see_with_the_apple_tv.html#lsrc.nl_mwnws_h_crawl to carry out a test with the reader and the double reading of text, versus what would happen if I entered the reader and then started to read with vo A. In the instance where the reader opened and article started automatically reading, I got the double text previously described in other messages, once as plain text, the second time with the word link preceding the linked text. If, however, I opened the reader and then stopped the reading but did not exit the reader and resumed reading with vo A, the text read as normal with no doubles, just the straight reading of text with link announced prior to any text links. I hope that makes sense. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garageband success again
Seems to play fine for me via the Sound Cloud website. *shrugs On 7 Aug 2011, at 14:21, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Christer, Unlike some on the list, I can go to edz page, but even pressing the play button won't play the tune. Maybe, public dropbox links are an alternative good way of sharing stuff. Still, it would be interesting to find what is causing some macs to play, and some macs refusing it. I don't have a clue so far. Paul. On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: Hi Krister and Paul! I've just gone to the page using the link in this message and from there pressed the play for [The Suspect] and it started playing straight away! I've also listened to a few of Ed's tracks! So they do work, why you cannot get them I don't know! Colin On 7 Aug 2011, at 10:39, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, I can confirm this behaviour and it has been so since Ed posted his first songs, that is i have never managed to get the songs to play. /Krister 6 aug 2011 kl. 19:58 skrev Paul Erkens: Hi Ed Worrel, I'm trying to open your song by clicking the link in your email, but it won't play. Could it be that you moved or removed your song? There's a play button on the website, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Interested to hear your garage band creation. Do you know why it won't play? Paul. On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello listers, sorry if this is off topic I just wanted to share My new creation with you all. I have created a new song with Garageband and I am very proud of it. I would love it if you could give me a little feedback, please email me at edworr...@bresnan.net with comments. So her is the link to My sound cloud page, the song is called The Suspect http://soundcloud.com/blinded/the-suspect Thanks ED P.S. here is the link to my Soundcloud profile http://soundcloud.com/blinded -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail, Conversations view and interacting
Yeah I must admit, I used to browse this way too. I have not tried it in classic mode, so have you tried to see if you can still do it that way? On 2 Aug 2011, at 10:53, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Hi All, A hopefully quick question, I used to have my mail in Snow Leopard set up so that my forums mail, which has its own mailbox and e-mail address, would be shown in a threaded view, I would arrow down my mailbox list to the Forums mailbox, stop interacting and arrow right to the messages view, then interact with it, then again interact with the columns and arrow over to the subject view. this meant that for me I had a quick and easy way of deleting entire threads I was not interested in, or opening entire threads that I was. It now seems though with Lion Mail, that when using the new view, and with conversations enabled, that one cannot interact with the columns within the messages view, making this impossible to achieve. put simply, I do not need to hear the info about author, from, date etc, just the subject line. thanks for any pointers or ideas. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: addictive drums vst in garage band?
There are some nice drum kits included in the Apple Jam Packs for Garage Band. On 2 Aug 2011, at 19:45, Cody wrote: Hi all, I am a musician and one of the best VST's I've found is called addictive drums. I have used it on windows under vst host and it works, but I am wondering how this would work under garage band. And if no one has tried this, what are some high quality, realistic drum kits that i can customize extensively for use with garage band? Also if someone like Ricardo or Mike could Skype me and help me out with editing in realtime that'd be awesome…sort of like an in person tutorial…for basic editing tips and tricks… Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: adium not working under lion
I am not having any Adium problems here, have you tried doing a disk repair with disk utility? or tried downloading the latest version and installing it again? On 1 Aug 2011, at 10:45, johns.kary wrote: Hopefully this will be the last question. lol Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work. Wen I try to open adium I get the message, adium has quit unexpectedly I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that was incompatible with OS lion. Any one having this problem or no what's going on? Thanks, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone having the follwing issues with safari and mail?
Are you using conversation view in Mail? If so, your messages are probably being grouped. Which website causes VO to crash? Have you ran disk utility and repaired permissions since upgrading to Lion? On 31 Jul 2011, at 11:15, Naama Shang wrote: Hi, I have noticed the following issues since upgrading to lion: 1. Safari -- If I start interacting with html content, I can VO for a few lines, and then VO would lag and restart itself, and I'd be placed at top of page again. Any suggestions, please? 2. Mail - I am not seeing duplicates. For instance, if I am subscribed to a list with multiple addresses, I only see a message once instead of multiple times. Also, if someone sends me messages to all my addresses, I see only one. This is very frustrating. I am using Lion, macmail in classic view and I have an iMac from June 2011. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Naama -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail classic view
Yes I have seen this too, and it happens in standard view also. I think it has something to do with Mail sorting the items into newest first, previously the oldest message would appear first. I have reported this to Apple, I suggest you do the same. On 1 Aug 2011, at 06:52, Shen wrote: Hi, Wondering if anyone has seen this. You probably have to have your Mail setup the same as mine to see this behavior. I have my Mail set to classic view, and group messages by conversation. I generally put VoiceOver on the subject line since I don't really need to know who is sending the emails. OK, so I arrow to a conversation. I arrow left once to hear the sender. Now let's say I arrow up or down away from that conversation, then decided to go back. This time, a different name is in the from field. I have not opened the conversation ahd have not read any messages in this conversation. Yet, the second time when I see the sender, it is different from the first time. I can't pinpoint any particular pattern. But it seems to be happening randomly. Has anyone seen this behavior? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Lion Mail
Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Actually my ban was done in error and the moderator at the time apologised, however for some reason my group settings had been set to no mail (I know I never set that) so I have missed all the lovely posts about Lion. So today I thought I best log into google to see what was going on. On 31 Jul 2011, at 01:44, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Chris, Its good to see the ban has been lifted and you're no long providing useless babble to the list (JUst kidding). All good stuff man and I'll switch and give it a try. Kev On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Hey I had never used VO+Shift and the end or home keys, I have just tried this though and it works great! Really pleased I checked my google settings now, as I really missed being able to quickly jump to the top or bottom of the messages list. Chris On 31 Jul 2011, at 01:43, Teresa Cochran wrote: I'm quite used to the new layout now, and feel comfortable with it, especially with the shortcut keys and favorites bar. I don't expand the conversation first; I just use the tab key to go into it and navigate through it with the arrow keys. VO-shift-home and end still work to take me to the top and bottom of the message list. I have a way that I can put my finger-pad on VO and shift keys so that it overlaps all of them at once, and it's like holding down one key with each hand. Teresa On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi all, I am interested to know how everyone is now using Lion Mail? At first, I was using the classic view, but now I have switched to the new standard 3 column layout. I have my messages grouped by conversation (collapsed) and I used to hit enter to open all of the conversations (previously known as threads) in various windows. The oldest message would appear at the front, but in Lion the newest window opens in the front. So I have stopped using this method. I then listened to Mark Taylor's podcast on how he uses Mail. He simply just uses the tab key to jump between each of the 3 columns. I tried this method and found it ok, but I felt it did not always auto read the message. However, it is not a bad approach if you only want to use one key on the keyboard. Whilst Mark is in the message contents view, he then uses the arrow keys to move back and forth (left and right) between the messages within the thread). interesting approach, but I think I have found a better way. I looked to see if Apple had uploaded the VO online help file yet, and indeed they have. Apple suggest using VO+J to jumps between the messages list and the content of the message. I tried this and it works great. So now I just scroll down my messages list, if I see a thread or conversation I like the look of, then I just expand it by pressing the right arrow and then move to the first message in the thread/conversation and then press VO+J, VO will then start reading the message immediately and skips reading the mail header (who the message is from) and to jump back to the messages list, just either hit backspace to delete the message or press VO+J again which will take you back to the messages list to where you were in the list. I find this approach works really well, and I might implement the favourites function in lion mail to quickly jump between mail boxes and folders by holding down the command key and a number. For more information about the new favourites feature in mail,, then check out Ricardo Walker's excellent podcast. I would be interested to know how others are now using mail, and what about using it with the track pad? I have not done it that way yet as I have mainly been using Lion on my iMac with a full keyboard. However, I still really miss being able to jump to the top or bottom of my messages list (VO+command and either up or down arrow), this no longer works. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Running Parallels with voiceover
Sadly it is not accessible, I made the same mistake last year and now I am using VM Fusion which is fully accessible. On 17 May 2011, at 06:58, Jenny Wood wrote: Good day all. So basically, I am just now toying with running windows inside of OS X. We already happen to have a copy of Parallels, so we decided to give it a try. Um, best I can tell, it's not voiceover compatible. I did some poking around on google and judging by the results I got, it's still not. For those of you who have tried it, would you find this to be accurate, or is there perhaps something I am doing or not doing correctly? Thank you in advance for your help! -- Jenny Wood Phone:(972) 989-3894 Email:kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
The reason why you can't stick a thumb drive in your iPhone is because the card slot would take up valuable space, and of course if you could supply your own memory, then you may not buy the more expensive higher memory models of phone or be in a hurry to upgrade your phone. And yes you have to currently use your computer to pass data to your phone, but expect that to change with iOS 5 and the new Apple cloud services. On 17 May 2011, at 12:50, brandt wrote: No, maybe you don't stick a disc in an iPhone, but neither do you stick a thumb drive in your iPhone. You can't back up your phone without using a computer, thus your comparison is irelivant. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have a pile of blank CDs, to be honest I can't see me using them, I do not even create MP3 or Audio CDs anymore. The only thing I have on Disc are DVD or Blu-ray, but with my Apple TV I can see them being boxed up and placed in storage soon. Can anyone remember how expensive blank CD and DVD used to cost? Thumb drives will come down in price soon enough, but do we stick a CD in our iPhones? no and we have managed to live without it too and the PC/Mac or whatever the post computer device will be, will also live without it. Who knows maybe the basic OS will become embedded and then you just download all the bells and whistles. I know this was tried before by Sun in the 90s with their net computing, but that failed because data speeds were too slow then unless you had ISDN or a posh 56k US Robotics :) On 17 May 2011, at 08:22, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected
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Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS. On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage
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Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Hello Brandt, I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. Isaac - Original Message - From: brandt brandt.steenk...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies
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Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern
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Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, then I will be going 100% download too. On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G mobile network? On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were talking about were cassette. In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made
Re: New text-to-speech voices in Lion
Don't panic, these are additional voices you can download as they are quite large. Alex is going no where, and like you I prefer him. I am really not a fan of Nuance voices. On 17 May 2011, at 15:10, Howard Dupuis wrote: Just read about -- and listened to -- the new voices that are supposedly going to be part of Lion. http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/16/listen-to-the-nuance-text-to-speech-voices-found-in-mac-os-x-lion/ If this means that Alex will be gone, then I'll not be upgrading. These voices, at least to my ears on just one listen, are a real step backward from Alex. To be sure, I've so long been listening to Alex that I've grown accustomed to him, but I don't think that's all there is to it. I think Alex sounds more nuanced than the Nuance voices. Just one man's whining. -- Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: something like pdf2txt on the mac?
Sertek Docuscan Plus? On 17 May 2011, at 15:57, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Matt and others: I believe you can do this with pages, and possibly with Stanza, though someone with more experience can verify this. I have a related question: If someone sends a mail attachmentthat appears as pdf images, and I don't have Abbyy, is there any way to access it's contents other than printing the image, scanning it with my PC and reading it there? I just don't feel Abbyy will meet my needs enough to make the purchase worthwhile. I'm hoping someone has a better idea.:) Thoughts? Carolyn On May 17, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: Hi list, I was wondering if there is an app that will convert pdf files to text files like pdf2txt on windows. Thanks. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
So it is only a matter of time before we switch to digital distribution. This reality has become more possible with the introduction of the Mac App Store too. It is not uncommon for Apple to be bold and make the first step to ditch legacy peripherals. For example when they introduced the iMac, they also decided to only use USB and stopped supporting older serial and parallel interfaces for printers and mice etc. It took the PC world a few years to follow. Apple were the first to drop the floppy drive and go CD-R only. i think they were the first to provide combo super drives too. They are the first to provide thunderbolt before anyone else and it will be interesting to see where this takes us as the data speeds are lightening fast. Apple were the main adopters of Firewire too, the PC community pretty much ignored this apart from Sony who called it iLink. The future really is no moving parts and fast transfer feeds between appliances and direct links to the cloud without the need to connect to other devices first. On 17 May 2011, at 16:12, Kimberly thurman wrote: Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) On 17 May 2011, at 16:28, Isaac Obie wrote: Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - Original Message - From: Kimberly thurman kimthur...@insightbb.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Our car stereo has a USB port. I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away. I'm just waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold in the palm of my hand. CD's scratch and thumb drives don't. Keep some CD's and DVD's around for your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them a little piece of forgotten history. On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead. On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 5 CDs verses 20 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 100 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think. On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 100 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 100 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie coac...@verizon.net
Re: New text-to-speech voices in Lion
Hmmm really got to disagree here, great voices at the time, but Betty? You'll be asking for the inclusion of the speak and spell voice next. On 17 May 2011, at 16:47, Terry Klarich wrote: It would be nice if the DECTalk voices were available. I've used a DECTalk for the past 20 years or so. In my opinion, there are no better than Paul and Betty. If Fonix would provide them for Mac OS, I'd purchase them. Terry On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:10:58 -0700 (PDT)you write: Just read about -- and listened to -- the new voices that are supposedly going to be part of Lion. http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/16/listen-to-the-nuance-text-to-speech-voices-found-in-mac-os-x-lion/ If this means that Alex will be gone, then I'll not be upgrading. These voices, at least to my ears on just one listen, are a real step backward from Alex. To be sure, I've so long been listening to Alex that I've grown accustomed to him, but I don't think that's all there is to it. I think Alex sounds more nuanced than the Nuance voices. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Well you could plug in an external DVD via USB, or maybe your OS could be backed up onto a memory card or a bootable portion could be available on your SSD drive. In all 10 years of having a Mac, I have never had to re-install my OS on any of my Machines. With Windows I think I used to reinstall it about once a month. But I agree with Riccardo and others, I think eventually the Mac will become the Macbook Air as standard. with cloud services and you would purchase your OS via the App Store. Apple were the first to ditch the floppy drive, did we survive without it? Yes! On 16 May 2011, at 17:36, brandt wrote: If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals. On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: So what? For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send
Re: Okcupid.com and voiceover
Not sure if any of you guys have tried www.manhunt.net , but I find it pretty accessible, and had some great meets off there :) On 10 May 2011, at 15:08, matthew dyer wrote: Thanks Chris, Wuill take a look and see what I come up with on that front. Matthew On 5/10/11, Chris Snyder ch...@chris-snyder.com wrote: Hi Matthew and Eric, I've found that if you go to m.okcupid.com, it works better for both the Mac and the iPhone. Of course, as with all dating sites, results may vary. :D I've found that mentioning that I'm blind in my profile tends to improve the quality of guys who respond. Fewer guys respond, but there isn't the awkward moment of truth so to speak. Friendly, Chris On May 8, 2011, at 7:06 AM, matthew Dyer on Mac Mini wrote: Hi all, Last night I went to www.okcupid.com. I had a problem with the new matches link. Vo just frose and kep saying voiceover busy and I could not do anything with it. Anyone else here had this problem. I am using the latest nightly build of web kit. Thanks. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 skype: graduater2004. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Say Goodbye to Skype, Microsoft just bought it for 8.5 billion
I agree, look at the Bing app for the iPhone for example, totally accessible. I think the problem with Microsoft is based on their old coding, such as office for example which is coded using C++ and contains millions of lines of code. They have no excuse not to add accessibility to new products. And yes we know they did not add this to Windows Mobile 7, but they did not add cut and paste either and Apple did not add accessibility until version 3. Here's hoping anyway. Chris On 10 May 2011, at 16:53, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi All, Yes, while MS's buying Skype did come out of left field for almost everybody, I tend to believe that at least in the short term we won't see much in the way of degraded accessibility. Skype's codebase has been worked on by the company for years, and I have trouble imagining the new management will completely toss out all that effort. Longer term, perhaps, the outlook is less than ideal, but I still don't see any really drastic changes in the pipeline. Call me an optimist, but I'm willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt in this case and avoid predicting doom when it might not be certain. Best, Zack. On May 10, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Jes Smith wrote: Hi all Looks like the days of Skype's being useful, and accessible to the blind are over. Microsoft just confirmed the purchase of Skype for 8.5 billion. Read below entitled: Yes, Microsoft is buying Skype - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals ... Know what this means? This means the installer for Skype version 6 won't even be VO accessible. Jes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A jingle I recorded for a client. All done on a Mac in Pro Tools 9.
hmmm for some reason it won't play for me On 9 May 2011, at 08:23, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey folks. Just got through with this jingle I wrote for a client. I was going for that late 70's early 80's Smooth Jazz feel. Besides the fact that the mastering bus is a tad over compressed, let me know what you guys think. Be aware that my strengths are in writing, arranging, lead and backing vocals, keys, drum programming, sound shaping and design. I'm not a mix or mastering engineer. I hate mixing. If I had a Preset called Late 70's bob James, I'd use it. If I had a budget for hiring a mix engineer, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Needless to say, I am extremely proud of the arrangement and performances. All was recorded and mixed in Pro Tools 9. All sounds except for the drums were stock. Some of them are less than desirable, but for now, they'll have to do. The drums I used was the free Drumcore kits. Anyway, looking forward to hearing your thoughts. http://www.kevinreeves.net/WeTalk.mp3 Enjoy. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A jingle I recorded for a client. All done on a Mac in Pro Tools 9.
Oh I can open the link no problem, and the play button appears etc, but nothing plays. On 9 May 2011, at 13:59, carolyn Haas wrote: Chris: interact with the text before attempting to open the link. Worked like a charm here. On May 9, 2011, at 2:07 AM, Chris Moore wrote: hmmm for some reason it won't play for me On 9 May 2011, at 08:23, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey folks. Just got through with this jingle I wrote for a client. I was going for that late 70's early 80's Smooth Jazz feel. Besides the fact that the mastering bus is a tad over compressed, let me know what you guys think. Be aware that my strengths are in writing, arranging, lead and backing vocals, keys, drum programming, sound shaping and design. I'm not a mix or mastering engineer. I hate mixing. If I had a Preset called Late 70's bob James, I'd use it. If I had a budget for hiring a mix engineer, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Needless to say, I am extremely proud of the arrangement and performances. All was recorded and mixed in Pro Tools 9. All sounds except for the drums were stock. Some of them are less than desirable, but for now, they'll have to do. The drums I used was the free Drumcore kits. Anyway, looking forward to hearing your thoughts. http://www.kevinreeves.net/WeTalk.mp3 Enjoy. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IPad II thoughts
Kev, My old buddy, does your new case also turn into a stand like the Apple one can? Chris On 6 May 2011, at 13:05, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Hey Scott, Here's the link... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004UDC5OM/ref=ox_ya_os_product Kev On May 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Hi Kevin, Can you send a link to the cover that you got. My wife hates the apple cover that she got. She does not want to scratch her presious ipad. Yes I am a bit frustrated, she will not let me touch the damn thing except for little fragments of time when I can add apps or fix something. In any case I would like to pass your thoughts on to her. Scott -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:39 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: IPad II thoughts I got my IPad 2 on Monday. I have to say it has been an awesome experience so far. Most apps that work on the IPhone seem to work much better on the IPad. The accessibility is better and the performance has been impressive. I bought the super cover from Apple and after I got it, I was disappointed in it. It was just a cover for the screen and left the IPad exposed on the back and sides. I ended up returning the cover and getting a sweet cover from Amazon for $19.95. The $19.95 cost vs the $69.95 was a reality check. The cover I bought works just like the Apple cover but offers more protection and yes, it wakes the IPad up like it should. All in all, it has been a good experience and I'm glad I bought it. Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the installation, and uninstallation of applications to the Mac
If you download apps from the Apple App Store, the apps are automatically installed into your Applications folder. To get an email address from the header, interact with the message header, press option + shift, and use the arrow keys, this will let you move by word and select the word at the same time, press command + c to copy to your clipboard. On 5 May 2011, at 11:37, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: What excellent instructions. I'm going to keep your instructions for myself. Thanks. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 5 May 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jes Smith theeternal...@gmail.com wrote: You are giving me ideas for upcoming podcasts. To install an app: 1. Open the .dmg file with command-O. (Most apps come in dmg files, which are basically virtual cds.) However, If the app comes with the extension .pkg, that's just like the setup.exe file that you've seen a billion times in Windows. Anyway, 2. Copy the name of the app, for example, skype.app, into your applications folder. You can quickly get to the applications folder by typing command-shift-a 3. Press comand-v to paste the app. And there you have it. 4. Go to the desktop, and you will see somewhere the name of the virtual disk. eject it with command-E. As far as blogging software, I would recommend marsedit. You can google for it. It's not very expensive at all, easy to use, and works great with VO. And go ahead and install Skype. It has an interface similar to ITunes. HTH Jes On May 5, 2011, at 12:02 AM, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Hi all, Subject covers it really. I think I've got this process down, but want confirmation before attempting. How is this done precisely? And on that subject, what do y'all recommend for VO accessibility? Journaling/blogging apps, news aggregators, and/or whatever starter tools you might find useful/interesting. Also, to install Growl or no? And, I know it's been beaten to death, but should I do Skype, or pass? Also, how would one go about selecting an email address from a mail header? Thanks in advance all, and I'm lovingthis thing so far. The switch has been seamless, and iTunes/iPhone management here is a joy. I didn't hate it under Windows, but at least on my Mac, VO is simply more responsive. The system goes from shutdown to ready in no less than fifteen seconds. Haven't timed this yet, but it's definitely no longer than that. Yeah, am in love. :) Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Office for Mac is still 32 bit, and still carbon. They wanted to concentrate on compatibility with the Windows sister suite before adopting the Cocoa framework. Apparently the next release will implement Cocoa so Office can take advantage of 64 bit. Outlook was rewritten (previously known as Entourage) in cocoa, including the ribbon. However, this does not guarantee accessibility, I am assuming Microsoft are using some customs APis here. On 5 May 2011, at 18:46, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi all just want to give my 3 cents. This is a good idea and I think it is worth a shot you never no even with a multi bilion dollar company like microsoft. It is important however to consider the actual programming of the software. Microsoft office is written using the C++ language which is microsofts own language developed by them. Apples main programming language is Coco and the other older one is Carbon. The magic of voiceover lies in Coco, if any software is developed using Coco it's accessible using voiceover or mostly ment to be anyway and this is why some 3rd party developers can make applications accessible without even realising as long as they properly use the Coco code. Microsoft office as said, is written in C++. Ok so mac OS can read c++ applications modified a little and this is why office works on mac but office for mac is still a c++ application modified to work on mac. In order to make it accessible it has to be written from the ground up using Coco and this is why I don't think microsoft will consider making office accessible. It will cost them a lot of time and money and for what? For them it is firstly Apple which is the opposition and secondly disabled mac users is only a small drop of water in their ocian of office users. I think before developing office from scratch using Coco they would rather invest money in accessibility on windows in order to try draw more disabled users to their software. Basically they have got us by the short and curlies, we are mac users, we want to use office but can't, and they know it. But as I said it is still worth a try we'll never know before we try, maybe they surprise us so I say give it a go... On May 5, 1:39 am, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I totally agree, fancy dropping them a line? I have been in touch with the RNIB over here and a couple of other organisations on this side of the pond. Will keep you posted of any outcome. On 4 May 2011, at 22:49, Laura McGlynn wrote: I think I've said this before, but what I find annoying is the silence of blind-oriented organisations, like NFB. If it was a big deal for Apple not to have accessibility built into iTunes, I'm not sure why Microsoft gets a pass, especially when Office is so ubiquitous. The lack of Office support isn't the only reason agencies are reluctant to offer the Mac as a viable solution for blind users, but I bet it doesn't help. In that respect, Microsoft's failure is a much bigger deal than Apple's was with iTunes. I know some people will say that's exactly why organisations like the NFB aren't making a big deal about it, but I'm not sure that's true. Either way, why they're not doing it at the moment isn't as important as letting them know that there's a problem, and that there's a sizeable number of blind users who want them to do something. Targeting them to take action might be as good an effort as targeting Microsoft directly. Because, as noted, our market share is tiny. It's going to take more than just us telling them they're losing money to bring change, and that's what organisations designed to advocate for the blind should be good at, IMO. Tony Hernandez tonyhspe...@gmail.com May 04 10:20AM -0400 ^ It seems to me that this effort is aimed at trying to creaet the force of a number of people rather than just one. Also, another problem is that the office formats are industry standard, so as Carolyn says, Microsoft knows they have the public around the neck. Gates meant serious business when he said, A computer in every home, and Microsoft software on every computer. He's pretty much achieved this as much as anyone can, so the company is quite complacent. Our market share is chickenfeed compared to that which they already hold, not that I think Gates himself is to blame for the accessibility issues, but MS as a company has no reason at present to try to expand their customer base. That being said, I see no reason why the effort should not be made to bring this issue to the attention of Microsoft, especially since Apple is outdoing them by leaps and bounds on accessibility for the blind, the deaf, and those who have motor difficulties. Tony Hernandez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Actually I agree with you there. I never did understand that negative image theme. Who the hell wants to see photos and icons inverted? When I first bought my iPhone I wanted white text on a black background as it is easier to see in daylight (well it was lol) and I was horrified that Apple offered this as a solution. I also think there should be some high contrast themes on the Mac. This is where ZoomText, Magic and Lunar do a good job. So you totally get my sympathy there. I presume you have emailed accessibil...@apple.com about this? Chris On 4 May 2011, at 18:34, LaMcAs wrote: It is just a shame that Apple aren't willing to do anything with regard to themes for low vision users, the totally blind are covered quite nicely but anyone that needs to use high contrast is stuffed because everything is just inverted! Larry Flax GD (Guide Dog) Elliot RTG (Retired Guide Dog) London, UK -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Jones Sent: 04 May 2011 16:24 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac Chris Thank you for taking the initiative to start this discussion and for posting the MS contact information. I will send them a note today. Last year I had taken a quick look around the web and found the following MSDN Accessibility Blog. It hadn't been updated in a few years and when I attempted to contact the author my email bounced. I just looked again and see that a new post was added by a new author last month so I'm going to try contacting them again. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/ Cheers, Bryan On May 3, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Maybe we should start a campaign to get Office on the Mac accessible. Anyone up for it? If you know anyone who is willing to send an email requesting that Microsoft make their Office Suite accessible then point them to this web page.http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product-feedback Select the Office product you are interested in providing feedback for and say something like I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for the Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in screen reader for the blind for OS X. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
I totally agree, fancy dropping them a line? I have been in touch with the RNIB over here and a couple of other organisations on this side of the pond. Will keep you posted of any outcome. On 4 May 2011, at 22:49, Laura McGlynn wrote: I think I've said this before, but what I find annoying is the silence of blind-oriented organisations, like NFB. If it was a big deal for Apple not to have accessibility built into iTunes, I'm not sure why Microsoft gets a pass, especially when Office is so ubiquitous. The lack of Office support isn't the only reason agencies are reluctant to offer the Mac as a viable solution for blind users, but I bet it doesn't help. In that respect, Microsoft's failure is a much bigger deal than Apple's was with iTunes. I know some people will say that's exactly why organisations like the NFB aren't making a big deal about it, but I'm not sure that's true. Either way, why they're not doing it at the moment isn't as important as letting them know that there's a problem, and that there's a sizeable number of blind users who want them to do something. Targeting them to take action might be as good an effort as targeting Microsoft directly. Because, as noted, our market share is tiny. It's going to take more than just us telling them they're losing money to bring change, and that's what organisations designed to advocate for the blind should be good at, IMO. Tony Hernandez tonyhspe...@gmail.com May 04 10:20AM -0400 ^ It seems to me that this effort is aimed at trying to creaet the force of a number of people rather than just one. Also, another problem is that the office formats are industry standard, so as Carolyn says, Microsoft knows they have the public around the neck. Gates meant serious business when he said, A computer in every home, and Microsoft software on every computer. He's pretty much achieved this as much as anyone can, so the company is quite complacent. Our market share is chickenfeed compared to that which they already hold, not that I think Gates himself is to blame for the accessibility issues, but MS as a company has no reason at present to try to expand their customer base. That being said, I see no reason why the effort should not be made to bring this issue to the attention of Microsoft, especially since Apple is outdoing them by leaps and bounds on accessibility for the blind, the deaf, and those who have motor difficulties. Tony Hernandez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: statement about microsoft's accessibility on the mac
All true and very valid points. I think we all need to contact Eric Wilfred who is the General Manager of the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft. He has been part of the unit since Office 98. He was responsible for PowerPoint and recently over seeing Office 2011. I don't know a direct way of contacting him, but here is a option. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-wilfrid/4/81a/a19 On 4 May 2011, at 23:09, Priscilla Garces wrote: I did give some feedback on Microsoft's inaccessibility since I have tested the Microsoft products on the mac. I bought the mac and before i did they let me test the mac with Microsoft word and it was very inaccessible I wrote the following statement: To Who May concern, I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for The Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in Screen reader for the blind for OS X. I tried to use word as a test at the apple store when I bought the mac and had to buy iworks2009 in order to substitute Microsoft, but although the apple version is enough for my needs, Microsoft Office suite is necessary for the work environment being that most employers are offering Microsoft's products as part of the equipment for employees. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales and more profits will be gained. In addition, many people in the blind community who are already mac users will also have the choice of either operating system. It is imperative that Microsoft products become accessible on the mac platform. For this reason, apple should step up and get Microsoft to consider the large gain in profitability towards accessible features in the mac platform. What do all of you think? Any opinions are appreciated. Thanks. Priscilla Garces priscillagarces1...@hotmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Finally someone who totally gets where I am coming from *sighs* Gordon yo might have to set up a separate office mailing list for us :) On 4 May 2011, at 15:03, Kevin Shaw wrote: Isn't it interesting that blind people are willing to fight for access to ProTools, Facebook and Flash, but when someone mentions the word Microsoft, people act like they're the mouse who has to put the bell around the cat's neck? My suggestions are to raise awareness of the myriad issues that plague this particular situation. Speaking directly to Microsoft may be an outcome of this awareness, but for one person to go up against Microsoft and demand accessibility yields the typical response: We're working on the problem, and we'll get back to you. Let us not speculate as to Microsoft's stance on accessibility until we hear a direct, emphatic and clear NO! from the mother corps. I'm all for encouraging Apple to develop its suite of productivity software titles to be fully accessible, however I believe the end user wants and needs choice, especially in the context of corporations that require MS Office. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Your welcome Brian, and it really does seem to have stirred up some emotions here, good and bad. But that is what mailing lists are all about and I think some excellent points have been raised. I am serious about trying to take this forward though. It is worth a shot and hopefully as a collective (sorry for going all borg on you there ) can make a difference. On 4 May 2011, at 16:23, Bryan Jones wrote: Chris Thank you for taking the initiative to start this discussion and for posting the MS contact information. I will send them a note today. Last year I had taken a quick look around the web and found the following MSDN Accessibility Blog. It hadn't been updated in a few years and when I attempted to contact the author my email bounced. I just looked again and see that a new post was added by a new author last month so I'm going to try contacting them again. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/ Cheers, Bryan On May 3, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Maybe we should start a campaign to get Office on the Mac accessible. Anyone up for it? If you know anyone who is willing to send an email requesting that Microsoft make their Office Suite accessible then point them to this web page.http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product-feedback Select the Office product you are interested in providing feedback for and say something like I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for the Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in screen reader for the blind for OS X. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
If that was the case, then why have Microsoft gone to all the trouble to bring Outlook back to the Mac? Why have they gone to the trouble to make Office 2011 100% compatible with the Windows version? Clearly they are interested in the product and there is a market there. Apple don't need any help in creating a Office product, they have never been interested in high end Office as many have failed in this arena. Look at Lotus SmartSuite, AmiPro and Lotus were excellent products. Novell had the totally wonderful WordPerfect and Quatro Pro. They were all better products, but are more or less dead now, Corel does not even push Word Perfect these days. At the end of the day big businesses and government departments want Microsoft Office either running on the Mac or Windows platform. So why can't we fully join the party? If Microsoft turned around tomorrow and released Office for the Mac with excellent accessibility support, would you not be interested or pleased? On 4 May 2011, at 14:17, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi: I think Microsoft isn't interested in accessibility. I suspect time would be better spent working with Apple to get a better office type program developed. Microsoft knows they have the public by the neck, (for lack of a better word:). Like Adobe, they've pretty much made it clear that accessibility is not a concern that keeps them up nights. In my opinion, Since Apple has built accessibility in, Microsoft won't be bothered to make their product work with a rival platform. Carolyn On May 3, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: A few points from me: Windows comes with a screen reader called narrator. It's not as robust as Voiceover, but Microsoft does develop it, much the same way as one vacuums under the sofa—You're lucky if it's done every few years. Yes, I agree with the initial suggestion. Tell Microsoft you want to participate as a full user of their software. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Peer-selling can be of great benefit, like telling them that if a company like DigiDesign can render a highly complex program like ProTools accessible, it would be easy for Microsoft to do the same for its most familiar productivity software. We may also mention the fact that 65 to 70% of blind people are unemployed or underemployed. Perhaps one person could take up the initiative, start a petition and be the go to person when it comes to engaging Microsoft in a dialog, much like my hero Slau did with ProTools. In which case, a carefully articulated and well-crafted series of statements could bring light to this issue. In addition, opening lines of communication to the media on this issue could also be of benefit to our cause. This is a large issue, as there is much to explain to a largely sighted audience. Explaining how screen readers work is one thing. Explaining how a popular program like MS Word doesn't work with a Mac or Windows screen reader is a whole other challenge, orders of magnitude beyond telling the journalist that talking computers let blind people surf the web. If it's at all possible, we could establish a list of people with the skills and connections to create these documents, the petition, press releases and other communication strategies to bring attention to this issue. If there is a lawyer on the list (and I doubt it because no one answered my black's Law Dictionary question), perhaps the mention of an anti-trust investigation will get things moving. I say this with a bit of jest, so please don't fill the list with messages bashing these suggestions. I work for a radio station here in Canada and would be willing to invest resources into getting this story told. If anyone else has a media contact or connection, let's develop the tools that we need to tell this story. the only question that remains is, are you ready to change the world? Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Ok to be fair, they had to get something decent out of the bag quickly. Android and Apple caught Nokia and Microsoft with their pants down. Nobody in the business expected Google and Apple to topple these boys. Even RIM are running scared and finally being more creative than they have ever been. Apple's first 2 releases did not contain accessibility either. Maybe Microsoft are playing catch up and who knows maybe their next big release for the mobile platform may be more accessible. Microsoft Office for Mac is in a different class, it is already established and finally now completely on par with Office 2010 for Windows (minus Publisher and Access of course) So it is not as though Microsoft are going to have to rewrite Office for Mac and add many new features to play catch up with its Windows cousin. The majority of Office is now Cocoa, not sure if it is 64 bit though, so hopefully threading accessibility support into Office might not be too difficult. But they need to know enough of us really want it, or why would they add it? They are a business at the end of the day and will add features customers want to sell new versions of the product. By adding compatibility to the Windows version and reinstating Outlook were the biggest feature requests from their customers. Let's make accessibility the biggest feature request for their next update / release. Chris On 4 May 2011, at 16:01, brandt wrote: Well, Microsoft demonstrated their concern for accessibility when they released Windows phone 7. Warm regards, Brandt Steenkamp If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in to my show, an Eclectic mess every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info Contact me: Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 MSN: brandt...@live.com Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Twitter @brandtsteenkamp - Original Message - From: Kevin Shaw tvsound...@rogers.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac Isn't it interesting that blind people are willing to fight for access to ProTools, Facebook and Flash, but when someone mentions the word Microsoft, people act like they're the mouse who has to put the bell around the cat's neck? My suggestions are to raise awareness of the myriad issues that plague this particular situation. Speaking directly to Microsoft may be an outcome of this awareness, but for one person to go up against Microsoft and demand accessibility yields the typical response: We're working on the problem, and we'll get back to you. Let us not speculate as to Microsoft's stance on accessibility until we hear a direct, emphatic and clear NO! from the mother corps. I'm all for encouraging Apple to develop its suite of productivity software titles to be fully accessible, however I believe the end user wants and needs choice, especially in the context of corporations that require MS Office. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
hi, Maybe we should start a campaign to get Office on the Mac accessible. Anyone up for it? If you know anyone who is willing to send an email requesting that Microsoft make their Office Suite accessible then point them to this web page.http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product-feedback Select the Office product you are interested in providing feedback for and say something like I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for the Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in screen reader for the blind for OS X. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales. Money always gets their attention. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
That is because there is no built in screen reader for Windows, all the screen readers rely on scripts to work. scripting to get programs to work on OS X is not an option available to us, so therefore we have to apply pressure on Microsoft to become more compliant with Apple's standards. Adobe are making strides to improve accessibility on the Mac for Flash and Acrobat. ok it is not here, yet but it will be here within the next 12 months. We have to bare in mind that Microsoft does not make any of the screen readers on the Windows platform, so it is up to the vendors to get their products to work with the OS and it's applications. On 3 May 2011, at 19:40, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good afternoon, Just as an FYI, MS Office for Windows isn't actually compatible with Windows screen-readers. There is a great deal of scripting required in order to make windows screen-readers work with MS Office products. I'm not saying that your campaign won't work. But, I just wanted to point out that MS Office isn't actually natively accessible on either platform. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2011-05-03, at 2:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: hi, Maybe we should start a campaign to get Office on the Mac accessible. Anyone up for it? If you know anyone who is willing to send an email requesting that Microsoft make their Office Suite accessible then point them to this web page.http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product-feedback Select the Office product you are interested in providing feedback for and say something like I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for the Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in screen reader for the blind for OS X. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales. Money always gets their attention. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover words per minute
You can follow it at 80? Jeez! On 3 May 2011, at 20:15, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know the estimate of words per minute corresponding to the different voiceover rates? If I am reading with VO at 80% how many WPM is that? How many WPM is 55%, etc.? Thanks for any help. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
i am aware of that, and it offers very basic support, hence why all the screen readers have to implement extra scripting to make them half decent. Look what happens when a new version of a application comes out, you usually have to wait for a screen reader update for it to work. ANyway, I am not interested in the Windows platform and how it works and does not work. I am interested in having an alternative platform for blind users to access the business standard Office Suite On 3 May 2011, at 20:46, E.J. Zufelt wrote: You are actually incorrect. Windows has both the MSAA and UIA accessibility APIs that allow developers to ensure that their applications are exposing information that can be used by assistive technology. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2011-05-03, at 3:42 PM, Chris Moore wrote: That is because there is no built in screen reader for Windows, all the screen readers rely on scripts to work. scripting to get programs to work on OS X is not an option available to us, so therefore we have to apply pressure on Microsoft to become more compliant with Apple's standards. Adobe are making strides to improve accessibility on the Mac for Flash and Acrobat. ok it is not here, yet but it will be here within the next 12 months. We have to bare in mind that Microsoft does not make any of the screen readers on the Windows platform, so it is up to the vendors to get their products to work with the OS and it's applications. On 3 May 2011, at 19:40, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good afternoon, Just as an FYI, MS Office for Windows isn't actually compatible with Windows screen-readers. There is a great deal of scripting required in order to make windows screen-readers work with MS Office products. I'm not saying that your campaign won't work. But, I just wanted to point out that MS Office isn't actually natively accessible on either platform. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2011-05-03, at 2:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: hi, Maybe we should start a campaign to get Office on the Mac accessible. Anyone up for it? If you know anyone who is willing to send an email requesting that Microsoft make their Office Suite accessible then point them to this web page.http://www.microsoft.com/mac/product-feedback Select the Office product you are interested in providing feedback for and say something like I am very interested in purchasing your Office Suite for the Macintosh platform. However, i understand your product is not accessible as it is not compatible with VoiceOver which is the built in screen reader for the blind for OS X. If you were to add support for VoiceOver, this would result in thousands of Sales. Money always gets their attention. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover words per minute
I usually have it at 55 and sometimes 60, but after that I think WTF, mind I have only been using a screen reader since July last year. On 3 May 2011, at 21:34, Greg Aikens wrote: For some tasks yes. I generally adjust it between 55 and 80, depending on what I am doing. -Greg On May 3, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Chris Moore wrote: You can follow it at 80? Jeez! On 3 May 2011, at 20:15, Greg Aikens wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know the estimate of words per minute corresponding to the different voiceover rates? If I am reading with VO at 80% how many WPM is that? How many WPM is 55%, etc.? Thanks for any help. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Campaign to get an accessible Microsoft Office for the Mac
Some excellent valid points Kevin, thank you. You have given me even more to think about. On 4 May 2011, at 01:28, Kevin Shaw wrote: A few points from me: Windows comes with a screen reader called narrator. It's not as robust as Voiceover, but Microsoft does develop it, much the same way as one vacuums under the sofa—You're lucky if it's done every few years. Yes, I agree with the initial suggestion. Tell Microsoft you want to participate as a full user of their software. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Peer-selling can be of great benefit, like telling them that if a company like DigiDesign can render a highly complex program like ProTools accessible, it would be easy for Microsoft to do the same for its most familiar productivity software. We may also mention the fact that 65 to 70% of blind people are unemployed or underemployed. Perhaps one person could take up the initiative, start a petition and be the go to person when it comes to engaging Microsoft in a dialog, much like my hero Slau did with ProTools. In which case, a carefully articulated and well-crafted series of statements could bring light to this issue. In addition, opening lines of communication to the media on this issue could also be of benefit to our cause. This is a large issue, as there is much to explain to a largely sighted audience. Explaining how screen readers work is one thing. Explaining how a popular program like MS Word doesn't work with a Mac or Windows screen reader is a whole other challenge, orders of magnitude beyond telling the journalist that talking computers let blind people surf the web. If it's at all possible, we could establish a list of people with the skills and connections to create these documents, the petition, press releases and other communication strategies to bring attention to this issue. If there is a lawyer on the list (and I doubt it because no one answered my black's Law Dictionary question), perhaps the mention of an anti-trust investigation will get things moving. I say this with a bit of jest, so please don't fill the list with messages bashing these suggestions. I work for a radio station here in Canada and would be willing to invest resources into getting this story told. If anyone else has a media contact or connection, let's develop the tools that we need to tell this story. the only question that remains is, are you ready to change the world? Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: rules again
Can you not just add him to your junk list? On 4 May 2011, at 02:02, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, So, with Tim's help I set up a rule to delete messages from this guy whose spamming me. Everything looks OK, but it doesn't seem to be working. Anyone know what might be the problem. I've entered his email address in the Contains field, and chosen delete message as the action. thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Yes it should, and it did for me last time. But on this occasion my card had expired. On 2 May 2011, at 22:39, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Neil. I also own a subscription of Mobile Me and am under the impression that my subscription should auto renew as I put my card details in my account so should it not auto renew? Kawal. On 30 Apr 2011, at 17:32, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: if it helps anyone, when I complained to Apple about this, I told them I was planning on buying a MM subscription but could not due to the inaccessibility of their web-site, and they gave me a free subscription to it for a year whilst they worked on the problem. if it is not fixed when it runs out, I fully intend on asking for another. just a note though about this, you will have to get someone to enter the promo code they give you, assuming they do, and sign you up to the service, as, of course, its inaccessible. :) so although I got a free memberhsip for a year, I still had to get a sightling to do the sign up process for me/ Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 18 Mar 2011, at 17:56, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries. Twitter: @IndigoCellist Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of mobileme on Apple's website :) On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
Compare the build quality of a cheap PC laptop to a Mac and you will see that you get what you pay for. The closest in build quality to Apple is Sony. Computers are like cars, you can buy cheap ones, or you can buy luxury ones. They all have 4 wheels and get you from A to B, just some do it quicker, sleeker and with more styling and comfort. On 30 Apr 2011, at 11:51, Scott Howell wrote: Aman, For The best thing is you have choice. APple has not failed at all and in fact has made an absolutely significant leap in the market. THe numbers speak for themselves and based on that it is apparent many feel the Mac is a worthwhile investment. I understand your point concerning a mobile solution and you want something that is cheap, so if it is stolen or damaged, you are out hundreds instead of a $1,000 etc. That works for you and You are correct that a computer is a tool, but in purchasing any tool, you have to consider your needs and what you are willing to invest in the tool. An inexpensive machine might be perfect for you when traveling etc., and again you have choice, which is great. However, if you have the money or are willing to make the investment in a more expensive tool because it will better meet your needs, then at least you have options. I could not disagree more though that APple has failed to consider consumers. If that were the case they would not be in the position they are today. Is Bose wrong for charging what they do for their products? THey charge more for headphones etc. then most manufacturers, but there is again even in this space a price point to fit all budgets. Bose however charges what they believe is a reasonable price for their product and this holds true for APple. Just because someone cannot afford or wishes to spend the money does not mean the company has failed. Does this make sense? On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi, Carolyn and all. I do not use a Mac for two reasons. The first, and most important, has nothing to do with this thread, but a second, and almost equally important reason is one which Carolyn's message below hints at. Carolyn writes The Mac is a totally different system, and built to some stringent specifications. You don't see any Macs for $300 as you do for PC machines. And there's a good reason. They're worth more. I think they are worth more. That's not to say that they're worth what is being charged for them, but if you're saying that a Mac is worth more than most netbooks, I absolutely agree. The problem with Apple is, though, that they don't realize that technology needs to be adaptable to be taken up by a large number of people. I want a very good desktop and an adequate laptop. That's because I want to carry my laptop around with me everywhere. I want it light and I don't want to worry about damaging it, losing it, etc. I can use my powerful desktop remotely and everything works well. A $300 netbook is just the thing for me. No Mac is. The wonderful thing about both Windows and Linux is that they are so adaptable. Your $250 netbook runs Windows, and your $1000 laptop runs Windows, and your $2500 desktop runs Windows. Your plug PC costing $50 runs Linux and your $500 laptop Runs Linux and your $2500 desktop runs Linux. Obviously, I could say more, but I'm speaking strictly as a consumer. Anyhow, this is where Apple fails. Their products are adaptable over a narrow range. For many circumstances, what you want is simply something that will do the job cheaply and reasonably, and that usually isn't a Mac. Sometimes you want the fastest/best components on the market and here, again, Apple fails because of its stringency. For example, SSDs were available for other computers for nearly a year before they were available for the Mac. I think what Brant is pointing out here isn't that the Mac is too expensive for what you get, though that may well be true, but is too rigidly expensive for certain users, and too rigidly cheap for others. The fact that he finds the prices high is just a symptom, the disease, if I may be so fanciful, is that a Mac machine doesn't adapt to his situation. If you want the very high-end or the somewhat/very low-end, you don't want a new Mac. If you want to spread your money differently, spending more on certain components and less on others, you don't want a Mac at all. Of course, that also means that your skill set on a Mac, and this is particularly as an AT user, isn't as useful because it isn't used on as many devices and at as many locations. Now, you may argue that all of the above is well and good for the ordinary user but that it doesn't apply to the blind user because of the cost of screen readers and other at. The cost savings, though, on AT, have been somewhat exaggerated, in my view. They apply most obviously to a person who has never bought a screen reader or other AT before, and who wants
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
You are lucky, I had to pay for mine still! On 30 Apr 2011, at 17:32, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: if it helps anyone, when I complained to Apple about this, I told them I was planning on buying a MM subscription but could not due to the inaccessibility of their web-site, and they gave me a free subscription to it for a year whilst they worked on the problem. if it is not fixed when it runs out, I fully intend on asking for another. just a note though about this, you will have to get someone to enter the promo code they give you, assuming they do, and sign you up to the service, as, of course, its inaccessible. :) so although I got a free memberhsip for a year, I still had to get a sightling to do the sign up process for me/ Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 18 Mar 2011, at 17:56, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries. Twitter: @IndigoCellist Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of mobileme on Apple's website :) On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: Safari Reader Question
My guess is that Safari looks for a print.css version of the web page as that would provide a printer friendly version of the page with no usual page furniture. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure it is CSS related. On 23 Apr 2011, at 21:28, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: All: I just figured out how to use Safari reader, command shift r. My issue is it doesn't work every time. Why won't it work on all articles? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Exceedingly frustrated trying to find address bar info/link info
Press command + L, this will move VO's focus to the address bar and highlight the URL, then hit command + c to copy. On 20 Apr 2011, at 17:02, Christine Grassman wrote: Hello, all. I am futilely attempting to locate the links in a list of search results on Google in order to copy and paste them into a message. I can find the link with its accompanying text, but I want the address of the link, not simply to be able to follow and open the link. I have tried finding it on the Web pages opened, but no success. How do I read the address bar on a Web page; it's so simple in Safari on the iPhone; why not on the Macbook? (The Web item rotor isn't reading it either.) Thanks for any help. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: word documents on mac's?
Sadly not, depressing eh? VO reads the menus, some of the icons and buttons, scroll bars, but sadly just can't see the document area. Not a fault of VO but a failing by Microsoft for not using the accessibility APIs On 16 Apr 2011, at 07:13, Melody wrote: Does VO not work at all with word for Mac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: word documents on mac's?
If you are only requiring to read the document, you can just hit the space bar and it will open in preview. VoiceOver will then read this document to you. TextEdit lets you edit RTF Word Documents. For Office 2007 and 2010 docx files you will need Pages. A new OS is due in the summer, who knows maybe this OS will offer even more built in support. I think Bean the open source free Word Processor also supports MS Word, and there is also Nisus Writer Pro. Chris On 11 Apr 2011, at 14:48, Ashley Cox wrote: the mac will let you open them up and have no issues. On 11/04/2011 13:46, KliphSharrie wrote: So break it down for me like I’m a 2 year old. Will I have to convert them first, or the mac will let me open them up and have no issues? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Cox Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: word documents on mac's? Hi, Text edit (comes witht eh mac), pages, open office, and pretty much any of the other editors will open and save in word format. I use a macbook for school and use word files constantly. ash On 11/04/2011 08:41, KliphSharrie wrote: Well, I’ve got an awful lot of documents in word format, and it would be very time consuming to convert them from word to pages. So is there a app that will allow me to read word documents with voice over, or do I have to bite the bullet and just run windows on my mac? Kliphton Senior (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (for text only) 7633029020 (Family Blog) miller9nation.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sharing Apps Between IPhone and IPad
Kev, One of the wonderful abilities of being locked into the iOS ecosystem is that you buy an app once and it is available to every device that uses the same iTunes account. So in answer to your question, YES! :) Hopefully one day Apple will be able to extend this to music and video too. Thanks Chris On 5 Apr 2011, at 23:06, Kevin Mattingly wrote: Can you share apps from one device to another? Say I pay for the RFBD app, can I put that on my IPad too or do I have to pay for it again? Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MobileMe Renewal Hell
Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of mobileme on Apple's website :) On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobileMe Renewal Hell
When I set this thing up I had sight, and had no idea I would need to worry about accessibility. Put it this way, I find the main facebook website more accessible! But when you have it working with Apple Mail, iCal, Address Book etc across a number of Macs sharing the account and also my iPhone etc, it works very well. I love push email and syncing etc and don't think there is much out there that can beat it. But the mobileme website is awful but it is better on the Mac then Windows for accessibility. If I was you, I would maybe consider google for now. On 18 Mar 2011, at 17:56, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: I too am curious as to your findings here, because I intended to subscribe with MobileMe within the next few weeks, and/or upon the supposed big announcement in April. Is this service more accessible on the Mac side than windows for example? Or is access a dead thing across the board? This is truly disheartening, so definitely keep us posted as to your discoveries. Twitter: @IndigoCellist Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: I, for my part, would love to know what they tell you. Seems to me that somebody's gone and dropped the ball big time on this one. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 18, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Don't worry, they were the first people I contacted, following feedback of mobileme on Apple's website :) On 18 Mar 2011, at 16:45, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Chris: Please Please forward this to Apple Accessibility!!! They should be advocating for just this kind of thing. Carolyn H On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hi gang, Do any of you have mobileme accounts? Have any of you had to renew your mobile me account and update your credit card details after your current card expires? I have just received an email from Mobileme informing me that my subscription is due for renewal and that I need to update my card details or my account and its contents will be deleted. So I thought ok let's wrestle with the pretty much inaccessible mobileme website. Anyway with a bit of playing around I managed to get to the appropriate page to amend my payment details and just as I arrived at the end of the form I was hit with a screen capture. Yes Apple has one! And no, there was no audio alternative. As there was no one sighted nearby I thought hmmm I will just have to call Apple. I rang Apple and had an argument with their automated voice recognition system and eventually got put through to a real person, who then had to put me through to another real person, who then had to put me through to a different real person. The final real person could not really help me but offered to log onto the mobile me website and clicked on the mobileme chat technical support link. So I am passing details down the phone and this guy is then typing them into a chat window and the 3 of us are going back and forth. Eventually technical support guy on the other side of the chat window came back and said he was unable to accept any payment details over the chat window. So as you can see it was a waste of time and mobileme do not appear to have a telephone either. So apart from getting a real person in the flesh with eyes that work to help you update the inaccessible website, I can't see how a blind user is going to complete this process themselves. Great service Apple, and I hope Lion makes mobileme more accessible or I will take my business elsewhere. Chris *in a huff and not amused :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post
Re: Mac OS X Lion
Now now boys, keep it nice. On 9 Mar 2011, at 13:06, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Lets be honest though, he was probably right. On 09/03/2011, Michael Thurman kb7...@gmail.com wrote: I agree who the hell do you think you are accusig anyone of doing anything illegal I'm half a mind to leave this list jus ton principle who are you the software police? On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: Scott, It is ridiculous how you accused me for doing something you don't even know if I did. Just wow. On 2/28/11, Kaare Dehard kaare.deh...@gmail.com wrote: it's a developer version, so let them know it's hastling you. As the eventual consumer, I'll love ya for it man. On 2011-02-28, at 3:40 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: I'm trying to install OSX lion on my 2010 macbook pro, and it gives me an error after preparing to install. Am I dong something wrong? I'm just installing the system in the same partition as my current one, macintosh hd. Should I be doing something different? I didn't make any changes when I burned the disk image, I simply burned it with disk utility. On 2/27/11, T wood tcwoo...@gmail.com wrote: I highly doubt it. I would really like to actually see all 4 gb of ram with sl being used. I've tried and the most I can get it up to is 2 point something. Fusion, I can see if you had a virtual machine, but even then 2 for each gets me by just fine. Yet again, the price of the ssd was absolutely rediculous. Considering I have a lot of things I like to bring with me, going to the 512 gb ssd for over 500 dollars was crazy. Yes, I did want a bad (insert language here) computer, but I just couldn't justify it, battery life increase or not. On 2011-02-25, at 4:36 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: If your experiencing slow writes, get an SSD. If your utilising all of your 4GB then perhaps an upgrade is in order, but SSD's decrease bootup time and the time it takes to open apps amongst other things. On 25/02/2011, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I might bun my next laptop up to 8 but tha'ts just me. Iwant the fasted thing inteh universe, Ok not really but I'm not happy wiht 4 gigs. My mac still slows down when saving a 4 hour long file lol! Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com website: http://music.marrie.org Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Lets be honest though, it's not like ram is expencive unless your looking for ddr which you won't be. Even on sl, you should see a difference if you bump it up to 2 or 4GB. On 25/02/2011, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: i know On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: If it is, you're screwed. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements are. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i can't say yet On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two gigs of ram. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I'd like to be one. I just don't have the hardware to dedicate to the task. :( -Eric On Feb 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Wonders if there are any blind VoiceOver developers or beta testers? This is very important, considering this is a major Mac OS X update. It needs to be tested thoroughly. Based on polling Twitter, specific followers etc, I'm not sure if there are any blind VoiceOver beta testers of Lion. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message
Re: by way of introduction
Welcome to the world of Mac and VoiceoVer, I am sure you will have a lot of fun. You do not have very long to wait for Mac 10.7 (Lion) either which will come with even more VoiceOver enhancements and apparently a whole host of new voices in various languages. Chris On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:06, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hey Joe Good to see your still out there. Haven't heard from you in a long time. I think you will enjoy mac os very much once you learn how voiceover works. It took me a long time. Do hang in there with it if you get frustrated. Take care --FC On Feb 28, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi: My name is Joseph Norton, from Dalton, GA. As i mentioned before, I have just ordered a new Mac Mini and am anxiously awaiting delivery. I have long been a DOS and Windows user and have had experience in Linux, most notably the console mode. While I have recently played around with ORCA under X-Windows, I have mostly stuck to command-line stuff under Linux. From some recent BlindCoolTech podcasts, (Thanks Mike), and from comments of other happy Mac users of VoiceOver, I decided the time had come to learn a new OS. Also, the fact that I could just go out and buy the computer and not have to spend a dime on another screen-reader was a big deciding factor. Not to mention the fact that, if I so desire, I can install the OS from scratch, without sighted assistance, if I need to--and I probably will do it, just to get the feel for it. I may be a bit strange, but, I like to play with installing an OS, trying different ways to configure it, and, even see how I can have more than one OS on the same machine. Back a few years ago, I had a machine with Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and Linux. It was so nice to know that, I had tools for accomplishing different things in each OS, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I even had drive images of different versions of Windows so I could troubleshoot. One time, for example, I had a friend who spent two hours with AOL tech support because he could not access the Internet through their service. Since he was using Windows 95, I used by image of Windows 95 and was able to duplicate his problem. I was able to tell him how to access hidden older versions of the AOL software on the CD's they used to send out, which fixed his problem. The AOL support person did not have a clue what my friend should do. I had him up and running in 10 minutes or so, after I found out what the problem was. Now, I hope to add experience with MAC OS to my learnings. I have seen posts on this list and you all seem to be very helpful. Keep up the good work. We newbie's out there may need a hint or two along the way. I have already learned some things I might need to know. This is probably the longest post from me that you will see. I apologize if I have taken more time than necessary, but, I will keep it more to the point in the future. Again, I can't wait to dive into this new experience. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5915 (20110228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speech recognition with Voiceover
You would need to purchase Nuance Dragon Dictate which is now accessible with VoiceOver. On 24 Feb 2011, at 17:31, Robert Nelson wrote: Native to the Mac is Speakable Items. Speakable Items is accessible to Voice Over. There are some work arounds required if you want to define a new speech command, but other than that, there is no problem with it. Basically any command that can be executed through a keyboard shortcut can be made into a verbal command. You cannot use it to type text in a word processing document for that you have to purchase third party software. I have no experience with these products so I do not know how they work with Voice Over.. I hope this helps. sincerely Yours, robert Nelson On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Adam wrote: Hi All, I'm a completely blind voiceover user in search of the most accessible speech recognition software out there. Is there a clear cut favorite on the market? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box
Why not just get a mobile me account and use iDisk instead? Hit them where it hurts, their wallet and vote with your wallet On 22 Feb 2011, at 11:41, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two years that they know about the accessibility issues witth Drop Box. Every single time one of us writes them about it, all we hear back is, We're aware of the problem. I reckon it's high time one of us or maybe a bunch of us wrote them and frankly said something like this: Every single time any one of us has written you about the accessibility problems we've been having with Drop Box, all we hear from you is, We're aware of it and are working on it.. Really? Where's the evidence of your work? You keep saying that you are aware, yet, we see no results. To speak frankly, we are beginning to wonder wheterh or not you really actually care; even if you are aware. What do we have to do to make you understand that, if we're going to use your service, (especially if we're going to pay for it), we'd better be able to use it? What will it take?. Yes, I think at least one of us; or, as I said before, a number of us, ought to just put it out on the table just like that. Just one of us isn't enough. We need to do this on a daily basis until they realize that we WILL, NOT, BE, IGNORED!!! Thoughts? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: O can set it up fine. But you have a point there. On 22/02/2011, at 0:31, Jes Smith theeternal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. As far as I'm concerned, the complete inaccessibility of Drop Box on the Mac is inexcusable. And, I tell you this, if I was the CEO of Apple, developers would either write their code based on Apple's accessibility guidelines, or, there programs would just be rejected. IT's a black and white issue as far as I'm concerned. I mean, mercy! IT's bad enough that we couldn't access the drop box menu, but now that we can't even set the client up without sighted help? And honestly, I don't think petitions would do a lot for our cause. Individual complaints have been sent to drop box for over two years, and they've done nothing to show us that they hear our cries for accessibility. I'd sign the petition, but don't think it will help much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: anyone home?
Steve, Check out: http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 Chris On 19 Feb 2011, at 07:58, Steve Gladstone wrote: Thanks Les. I’m a JAWS user and looking to get started with Voice Over. Any suggestions where to find a good “getting started” tutorial? Thx Steve From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 2:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: anyone home? Steve, you're in. On Feb 19, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Steve Gladstone wrote: New to the list. Wanted to see if I’m in the loop. Anyone receive this? Thx Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
I have boot camp installed on my 13 inch Macbook Pro, no sound issues here. However I am running XP and not Windows 7 though. So not sure if that makes a difference. On 19 Feb 2011, at 03:14, David Tanner wrote: It isn't Fusion that is the problem. The issue is if you try to run Windows without running it as a virtual machine. The sound usually works if you are running Windows through Fusion as a virtual machine. But, if you choose to boot to Windows instead of booting into Snow Leopard and boot directly into Windows there is a good chance that you will not have any sound in Windows due to some kind of sound driver problem that Apple and Microsoft neither seem to have a good answer to. But, luckily it only happens on the MacBook Pro 13. I have the MacBook Pro 15 and have never had the problem with mine or any of the about 15 machines that I have setup with both Windows 7 and Snow Leopard. - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:09 AM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac Book Pro. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning and the mac
That seems quite odd, as I have a iMac and a 13 inch Macbook Pro, and VM Fusion is fine on the Macbook. I also have the iPal Solo (stand alone version of the iPal). I opted for this as I did not realise at the time they were working on Mac software. On 18 Feb 2011, at 01:40, David Tanner wrote: You are right on, the only accessible OCR for Mac right now is Eye-Pal which has no where close to the features of Kurzweil1000. The best solution at this time is K11000 in Windows and with the latest Fusion you should be able to setup a hotkey so that you can actually launch K1000 while you are still in Snow Leopard and Fusion will handle getting you over to Windows, launching K1000; which isn't half bad. Just a word of warning here. After more than one experience; stay away from the Mac Book Pro 13 inch laptop. There appears to be a problem with not always getting sound on the Windows side of things which apparently can only be solved by installing a USB soundcard to use for sound on the Windows side of things. Again, this only seems to happen with the 13 inch model of Mac Book Pro. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: scanning and the mac There is no solution for the Mac equal to K1000 if you use things like the bookmark and other features of that application. The k3000 for Mac is old and not vo-compatible and not appropriate for blind folks. Stick with k1000 and never mind native Mac solutions if you're a power user, which it sounds like you are. You won't be happy with other solutions that don't offer features you're use to and don't offer anything like the convenience of the K1000 application. I have K1000 running on a Windows machine with a bookedge scanner by Plustek. Bootcamp or a vm may work for you. Good luck. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: request for people in the UK using Voiceover
Liam, Try mac-access.net mailing list, although it is international, it is based in the UK and attracts a great number of UK contributors like myself. Kind regards Chris On 16 Feb 2011, at 20:08, DJ Nezumi wrote: hi to all i was wondering if anyone could help at all. i'm wanting to find people in the UK who use mac and voiceover for practically everything and if they are willing to discuss and maybe help me with a few questions. e.g. going into more depth about voiceover and certain apps with VO. i was thinking that skype maybe the best option. here's my skype address if anyone would want to get in touch. liam.ky alternatively if anyone from the US would be willing to help that would be appriciated also. the only reason i asked for people in the UK was down to the time difference. thanks in advance much appriciated Liam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Twitterific for Mac 4.0 Is Released Sans VoiceOver Accessibility
I must admit, I totally agree with this. What is the point in directing us to only read a few extra words? This seems to happen with the majority of these postings. Why not just paste the entire article in here? On 14 Feb 2011, at 09:51, Søren Jensen wrote: I'm tired of reading 95% of the news and then click the link to open the website to read the last 10 words. I don't know if this is the limit of the blogging system, but I don't have time . to open up a website just to read the whole news when receiving more than 200 mails each day. Best regards: Søren Jensen mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 11/02/2011 kl. 21.00 skrev Maccessibility: Twitterific for Mac 4.0 Is Released Sans VoiceOver Accessibility The IconFactory has released the much anticipated Twitterific 4.0 for Mac OS X. Though Twitterific was one of the first OS X Twitter clients to incorporate accessibility, the application has taken a huge step backward with this release. The message timelines are not exposed to VoiceOver, making the app unusable. Interestingly, much of the app elsewhere [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/02/11/twitterific-for-mac-4-0-is-released-sans-voiceover-accessibility/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VMWare 3.02
Press VO + F2 and then select view from the window chooser On 14 Feb 2011, at 22:39, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hello. try hiding all he windows except for vmware then press cmd g. that used to work. Take care. S On Feb 14, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi Guys, I installed a Win XP in VMWare 3.02. Something has changed since I used VMWare 2.X. Could anyone tell me how I can get in the Window of the virtual machine? I'm not very successful by giving Jaws key commands. To be honnest it doesn't work at all. All I can hear is the Mac plong when I press a key on the num pad. Thanks and regards Jürgen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: frustration
No problems here. On 9 Feb 2011, at 02:48, Candie Stiles wrote: Yes I have definitely noticed a major increase in voice over saying safari busy. I rarely ever got a busy response before, and now I'm getting them just about every time I'm using safari. I did repair permissions as well and it didn't make any difference. On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi folks, For some reason, I am all of a sudden having voiceover crashes multiple times a day and have to stop to reset voiceover. By crashes, I mean the sound simply cuts out. Also, my Safari randomly goes busy busy busy with a much greater frequency than I've experienced before. I've repaired disc permissions recently, and I only started seeing this behavior in the last few days. Is anyone else experiencing this right out of the blue? Has anyone else found a solution to this other than making a time machine backup and formatting the bloody hard drive? Friendly, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 13 reasons why software is not free
Riccardo, It is quite common for types of communities to adopt nicknames or phrases for themselves that might not seem acceptable outside the community. For example the black community have adopted the N word, the gay community have adopted queer or puff in the UK, and over here there are various descriptions used by the blind community such as blinky (I guess its because some blind people blink a lot), other words include gozzy, bindy, and total. I am sure there is a hell of a lot more out there too. Chris On 31 Jan 2011, at 09:17, Ricardo Walker wrote: Ok, a bit off topic but, why on earth would you refer to your self as a blink? Maybe the word is just new to me not having heard it before the last year but, What does it even suppose to mean? I don't think I would like being called a blink. JMO Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: well, there is the 3 or 4 US Dollars for an app from the app store, or the $1,000 US price tag for software that shouldn't cost more than $100 (btw, that over priced software is called Jaws for windows). I know there are reasons for developer costs (paychecks, taxes and the like) but to charge such enormous prices simply because the government pays them is unconscionable! they price us (the blind) out of the market solely based on ability to pay. one other thing I will say about freedom scientific: their business practices are predatory. now, apple has its share of bad items on the list, but accessibility isn't one of them. Apple realized that everyone (regardless of disability) needs accommodation. its why those who are like us (blinks) have speech and braille and why others who cannot read but otherwise can see use the symbology of images on the desktop (yes, there are folks like this). the whole point is this: sure, software is not free, but it doesn't have to be onerously expensive either. -Eric On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi all, While reading on tuaw recently, I came across a link to a very good article, written by a developer, listing the reasons why software is not free. Since there is from time to time a lot of discussion regarding the price of software, usually involving people decrying the fact that a given app is not free or nearly so and somehow feeling that they are being gouged by developers, I thought I'd offer this link for folks to check out and think about. Remember, this author is not a blindness software developer. Everything she says in her article is common sense. But since it is coming from a small mainstream developer, not one developing for our small market, maybe it will go down easier with those of you who post here and elsewhere the view that small developers working for a small market segment are somehow out to screw us over. http://wildchocolate.tumblr.com/post/2943819131/13-reasons-why-software-is-not-free Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VM Fusion
Actually I have managed to fix this. I uninstalled Adobe Reader 10 and downgraded to 9.1 and it works a treat. I can read the forms and fill them in too. I long for the day that Adobe offers this level of functionality to the Mac version of Adobe Reader. On 31 Jan 2011, at 18:29, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Read PDF on the Mac, forget jaws! I hear that PDF isn't very accessible at present. Might be wrong though. On 31 Jan 2011, at 15:40, Chris Moore wrote: Hi guys, I waswondering if there was any known issues with Fusion. Every time I open a PDF document from my documents I am prompted to select which program I should use to open the file with. I select Adobe Reader 10 and then also tick the box that says Always use this application to open this file and then I hit OK. Strangely though I always get this request even though I keep putting a tick in that box. The other major issue I have is I am unable to read PDF files in Adobe Acrobat with JAWS 12. JAWS finds no headers, or buttons or anything and I can open the PDF on a standard Windows machine and it works fine. I am totally puzzled by what the problem could be. It is an interactive form. Any ideas anyone? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO Safari Flaw
This is what I have just sent to Apple, and I would be interested if anyone else has experienced this or has any knowledge of why Safari and VO do this: Hi there, I have been doing some comparisons of using screen readers on a major supermarket in the UK. Tesco are huge in the UK and Europe and have a wonderful website which enables customers to order products and have them delivered. I used to think Safari and VO acted strangely at times when using this site as there seemed to be more links or headings within the web page when tabbing around or navigating via the keyboards shortcuts (VO + command + H for example) than the rota would announce. I would then double check that the rota was giving the correct information by asking VO to tell me the summary of the web page statistics. When using JAWS and System Access I noticed that those screen readers informed me that there was twice as many headers and links on the web page than VO would lead you to believe. I then opened up the HTML source code and double checked for myself and indeed this was correct. I then started to notice this on other websites. Why does VO not report to the rota of every header and link? Yet, if you tab or go through the web page by header and link etc you come across all links and headers. Are you aware of this bug? I think this is a major serious flaw on Apple's part as it provides misleading information and could potentially be hiding content the viewer may think is important. I also wonder if the find feature within VO also misses this information too. I hope Apple investigate and fix this serious flaw. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garageband tutorial 3.
I use my numeric keypad, bliss! On 18 Jan 2011, at 02:26, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hi Rickardo, How about using Quick Nav. I use it all the time and don't have to worry about locking down the VoiceOver keys. Just a thought. Chris On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Thanks. I don't like using the VO lock for the reason you mentioned. I always forget to turn it off when I'm done. lol. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Colin M wrote: Hi Ricardo! I've had a listen and although I've never done any music at all! nice pod cast! I've a suggestion [not about music! ] when your doing your editing and you press vo,shift,command and accent would it help to lock the vo keys! vo+semi colon and then all the things you do holding down the vo keys you just need to use the key[s] but of course must remember to unlock vo after your done [ same command to unlock] It might help Colin Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 17 Jan 2011, at 19:18, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Folks, Part 3 of my audio tutorial on Garageband is up. You can listen at http://goo.gl/HFDM4 hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: :pages export annoyance
Text Edit is great for basic stuff, but the word format it supports is really only rich text format. This is fine for being able to read the contents of a word document but most formatting will be lost. On 17 Jan 2011, at 08:13, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, While it's true that TextEdit saves documents in their original format, it isn't a fully-fledged word processor and you can lose important formatting. Headers, for instance, get grouped together at the end of the document, and any styles not supported by TextEdit are lost. This is why I can't use TextEdit in my work as a translator. Pages does a very good job of preserving styles and allows me to create quality documents that I export to MS Word format and which meet my customers' requirements. Cheers, Anne On 17 Jan 2011, at 05:49, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Chris and others: I'm curious now. I just opened a Word attachment. I then saved it in documents, where it stayed a dot doc file. I went into documents and opened it with text edit, made some changes, and then saved it again as a word file. So, I'm not clear what's the issue here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the acsesability of the latest verssion of adium??
That bug can still sometimes happen, but the trick is when you look at the conversation window, press VO + End and you should hear the last message that was sent, and if not Adium might say group, just hit VO and right. Of course if you have growl setup (which I don't) you could configure this to read out the messages automatically. On 17 Jan 2011, at 06:09, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: Hi, Using latest Adium, works great. HTH, Jeffrey On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:06 AM, trahern culver wrote: hey all does any one know how acsesabel the latest verssion of adium is? in past versions voice over wouldn't read past the first message in conversation logs is this still the case in the latest verssion? your help with this question would be most welcom!! kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessibility of Hotspot Shield
Maybe this is something Brian Smart could look at with Voxkeys. In the meantime have you tried writing to the developer? Do you know if there is an iPhone version too? Could this app also be used for our american cousins to access BBC iPlayer from their side of the pond too? On 17 Jan 2011, at 14:58, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello, and thank you very much! This is what I had suspected. Is there any other way to get to the items I need, even if it is a hassle? Kind regards, Mike On 17,Jan,2011, at 3:27 PM, Massimo wrote: In data Lunedì 17 Gennaio 2011 15.04.42, Michael Busboom m...@busboom.at ha scritto: While I was able to install the Windows version, I encountered several problems with the Mac iteration. For what I know, the problems you are having may be the result of a VO bug. The commands to enable and disable the software functions are on the system status bar: I mean that item you can reach by pressing VO+m+m. VO cannot read all the items present there. For example, dropbox places an icon there, but VO doesn't show it at all. VMWare has the same problem. And many other applications too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the acsesability of the latest verssion of adium??
I must admit I do use group mode for certain websites where I can whizz up and down and around quicker then linear DOM mode and group mode can be very handy when you use the main Facebook site. On 17 Jan 2011, at 13:47, Oriol Gómez wrote: Wait what? People actually browse the web in group mode' What are the benefits of this? Isn't that just going to make things a lot more complicated? On 1/17/11, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: In my experience VO has always read the conversation window, as long as dom mode is set. If you change to group then you run into problems. I solved this by making a keyboard commander key to switch between dom and group so I can have group mode for browsing and get dom back for reviewing conversations on adium. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-01-17, at 1:06 AM, trahern culver wrote: hey all does any one know how acsesabel the latest verssion of adium is? in past versions voice over wouldn't read past the first message in conversation logs is this still the case in the latest verssion? your help with this question would be most welcom!! kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: group mode was Re: the acsesability of the latest verssion of adium??
Lazy bitch lol but yeah that works on some sites too. On 17 Jan 2011, at 14:25, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I find that on many sites, pressing command shift R to enter the article reader works great. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:04 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Uh, well it really depends a lot on the person who is browsing and the sites they look at. Some sites actually to not display information properly in one or the other mode. For an example of a site that doesn't really display properly in dom mode, see http://www.erik-burggraaf.com. This site displays all it's information properly in group, but leaves things out in dom. Group mode vastly improves navigation on sites driven by lists and tables. It also makes for a great way to skip over useless or duplicate information on large web pages, especially if they have no headings for the purpose. It's fantastic for reading the articles that often get posted here because it groups the article together and the adds together, so you can ignore the ads and read the article. It does take a lot of practice though, and I have seen people get hopelessly lost, especially elderly people. It's not for everyone or every site, but on many sites it's a huge advantage. Plus I use the item chooser a whole lot. I do occasionally look at a whole page, but very seldom. It just takes to much time, even at 400 words per minute. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-01-17, at 8:47 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: Wait what? People actually browse the web in group mode' What are the benefits of this? Isn't that just going to make things a lot more complicated? On 1/17/11, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: In my experience VO has always read the conversation window, as long as dom mode is set. If you change to group then you run into problems. I solved this by making a keyboard commander key to switch between dom and group so I can have group mode for browsing and get dom back for reviewing conversations on adium. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-01-17, at 1:06 AM, trahern culver wrote: hey all does any one know how acsesabel the latest verssion of adium is? in past versions voice over wouldn't read past the first message in conversation logs is this still the case in the latest verssion? your help with this question would be most welcom!! kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Track Pad
Did you turn the track commander on in VO utility? On 16 Jan 2011, at 08:35, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hey Everybody, I just rejoined the list and it is great to still see a few familiar names here. I bought a magic track pad and wasn't able to do to much with it. I tried changing some of the settings to adjust the sensitivity but it didn't seem to make any difference. So , I am just getting along with the keyboard. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Track Pad
Hmmm how odd, I have one too and it seems to work fine. What trouble are you having exactly? Had you used the gestures before on say an Macbook or iOS device? Chris On 16 Jan 2011, at 09:18, Christopher Peppel wrote: Yes, I did. Thanks. Chris On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Did you turn the track commander on in VO utility? On 16 Jan 2011, at 08:35, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hey Everybody, I just rejoined the list and it is great to still see a few familiar names here. I bought a magic track pad and wasn't able to do to much with it. I tried changing some of the settings to adjust the sensitivity but it didn't seem to make any difference. So , I am just getting along with the keyboard. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: :pages export annoyance
I agree, it would be nice but show me a word processor that does this apart from MS Word? Companies would have to probably pay quite high to licence this from Microsoft. When pages 09 came out it was the only word processor on the mac that could read and write to the docx format. Not even Office for the Mac could do that at the time. Maybe (not sure if this is already the case) but if you open a word document in pages and make changes to it and then save, it would be nice if it was saved back to the default file type which pages opened. I can see the benefits in that. Maybe there is a script out there which can help. Chris On 16 Jan 2011, at 17:30, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Please excuse me for putting my 2 cents in but, I think the Original post is still valid. It seems to have been lost in the war of words following though. It seems silly to not be able to just set a default format of your choosing. Especially since Word formats are pretty much what 90% of the world uses. Regardless of how easy it is to export or save as a word document, that doesn't mean you want to do it every time. After all, technology main purpose is to make our lives easier, not make us have to repeat time wasting tasks. On the flip side, I didn't hear the slight in Anne's use of the word complain. But then again, Its all in the eye of the beholder. But I think this might have just been a misunderstanding. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 15, 2011, at 2:06 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote: Ah, my mawmaw said the same thing, smiles! Heather - Original Message - From: Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:00 PM Subject: Re: :pages export annoyance Take a chill pill my friend, as my gran always used to say you catch more flies with sugar then vinegar. Now breathe with me out with anger, in with love lol But seriously, exporting is easy, i have only had Pages for a couple of hours and it is easy. If you use OpenOffice, WordPerfect, WordPro etc etc their default document type is not MS Word but can import and export to that format. Microsoft Word hold the exclusive ability to have .doc format type as their default as it is their product. That is the case on both the Mac and Windows. am sure if you could use MS Word on the Mac then that would solve your issue. Chris On 15 Jan 2011, at 18:50, Yuma Decaux wrote: Chris, I must have changed the subject to issue with pages i wish to resolve. And yes, i apologize for having a chip on my shoulder, but i'm also not here to listen to people speak to me as if i'm the bad guy not liking apple products or something, and putting in words like complaining which is synonymous to bitching etc on a totally legitimate question. A question, you know? So yea, its probably a compatibility issue and i haven't had enough coffee this sunday morning, and perhaps the sky is dark, or i fell on the wrong side of the bed, which incidentally will not be empty starting today, or many other reasons. But this doesn't resolve the fact that i want to export to certain formats by default. But people made it a case to say i'm bitching over this. So this is a half apology. And i don't care anymore if i can't export by default. You guys just disgusted me from finding a solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received
Re: Magic Track Pad
Ok why not try switching VO keyboard help on by pressing VO+k and then practice using some of the gestures to get a good feel how best to get the magic trackpad to respond. When you are finished practising then hit Esc. You can also ad additional functions to your gestures to in the VO utility. Chris On 16 Jan 2011, at 17:20, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hi Chris, No, I haven't used any of those devices so far. I went into the track pad settings On Jan 16, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Hmmm how odd, I have one too and it seems to work fine. What trouble are you having exactly? Had you used the gestures before on say an Macbook or iOS device? Chris On 16 Jan 2011, at 09:18, Christopher Peppel wrote: Yes, I did. Thanks. Chris On Jan 16, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Did you turn the track commander on in VO utility? On 16 Jan 2011, at 08:35, Christopher Peppel wrote: Hey Everybody, I just rejoined the list and it is great to still see a few familiar names here. I bought a magic track pad and wasn't able to do to much with it. I tried changing some of the settings to adjust the sensitivity but it didn't seem to make any difference. So , I am just getting along with the keyboard.and tried to adjust them to slower. Didn't seem to make any difference. Thanks. Chris Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garageband question
Its one of the 2 hyped up new features which are not accessible Ricardo L( borrowed from Logic 9. I would be happy with basic midi note editing. Man at the moment Reeper and Sonar really do make me drool (and that is not a pretty sight I can assure you). On 16 Jan 2011, at 18:48, Ricardo Walker wrote: Refresh my memory? Which of the 2 hyped up GB 6 features is this? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello I was wondering if anyone has figured out how to use the groove timing feature in garageband? thanks ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: shortcut for accessing the downloads folder?
Could you not just create a shortcut in VO utility for the keyboard commander? On 16 Jan 2011, at 19:45, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Hmm, I believe I could write a little apple script to create an alias for the selected item on the desktop. I wonder if that would work just for file / folders or for other items :-- tell ap First guess: tell Application Finder set a to the selection of the frontmost window set thedeskTop to the path to the desktop make alias to a at theDesktop end tell Note: the above is just a guess Jon new Alias to On 15 January 2011 01:46, Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com wrote: I do command shift h which puts me in the home folder, then I type d o w very quickly and bingo, there I am. Command shift h is a god send! I don't know why, but it took me forever to realize that, :) Marlaina PS. Command shift a is also a god send to get to the apps folder. But then, you didn't ask about that, LOL! On Jan 14, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, you can do command shift H to bring up the home folder then arrow down to your downloads folder. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I really thought there was a shortcut for this, but now I can't figure it out. I know Command-Shift D brings up the desktop, Command-Shift O opens documents, isn't there a similar shortcut for downloads? thanks in advance for any help. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
