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YEP That is how they work. You can see one in action next weekend. (5 days ending on Labor Day) at Midwest Old Settlers and Threshers Association annual reunion in Mt. Pleasant IA. Allow at least 2 days if you go. It was called the greatest steam show on earth 50 years ago, and probably still is. Also sawmill, veneer mill, narrow ga railroad, electric trolleys, including one from Montreal (for our token Canuks) probably 100 or so steam traction engines up to 110 HP Case, stationary steam engines, up to the Marshall. There are also antique tractors, trucks and cars, the log village, the pioneer village, train robberies and tons of other stuff to do and see. Of course there are threshing, mowing, binding, plowing, and baling demonstrations. https://www.oldthreshers.org/files/Saturday%20Program%202019.pdf Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 8/22/19 7:46 PM: I've had the opportunity to watch a good shingle mill in action belted to a Farmall Super MD. I forget exactly but the sawblade was probably 20-24" in diameter. The cool thing about this one is that it automatically advanced the wood for the next cut. I *think* it alternated cuts so the wood stayed square every 2 shingles. This one used a chunk of wood like a piece of firewood standing on end, so it was already cut to length. Its been probably 9 years since I saw that one in action. My buddy Steve has on just like it but I've never seen it running. That reminds me, I need to finally finish up the video of Steve's Metz & Weiss semi-diesel engine... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I've had the opportunity to watch a good shingle mill in action belted to a Farmall Super MD. I forget exactly but the sawblade was probably 20-24" in diameter. The cool thing about this one is that it automatically advanced the wood for the next cut. I *think* it alternated cuts so the wood stayed square every 2 shingles. This one used a chunk of wood like a piece of firewood standing on end, so it was already cut to length. Its been probably 9 years since I saw that one in action. My buddy Steve has on just like it but I've never seen it running. That reminds me, I need to finally finish up the video of Steve's Metz & Weiss semi-diesel engine... -Curt On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 4:14:54 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 22/08/2019 2:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Shingle mill is just a horizontal sawmill with shorter bolts. Oh, > and thick and thin is desired, not the product of a wornout mill and a > mediocre sawyer. THe old guy who sawed most of my logs was a good > sawyer with a worn out mill. My father built his own shingle mill not long before his demise. I assume it went with the rest of the mill equipment when he sold it. It was a small simple unit that required one to push the block of wood through the saw blade. There was a sort of toggle that shifted the block back and forth to cut fairly uniform angled shingles. I think he had it set so that it cut a bit thicker on one direction than the other so that the shingles, when nailed on, were staggered. I never ran it or actually saw him run it as by the time he built it, I had moved away. I remember him proudly showing me the contraption but not much more about it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
On 22/08/2019 2:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Shingle mill is just a horizontal sawmill with shorter bolts. Oh, and thick and thin is desired, not the product of a wornout mill and a mediocre sawyer. THe old guy who sawed most of my logs was a good sawyer with a worn out mill. My father built his own shingle mill not long before his demise. I assume it went with the rest of the mill equipment when he sold it. It was a small simple unit that required one to push the block of wood through the saw blade. There was a sort of toggle that shifted the block back and forth to cut fairly uniform angled shingles. I think he had it set so that it cut a bit thicker on one direction than the other so that the shingles, when nailed on, were staggered. I never ran it or actually saw him run it as by the time he built it, I had moved away. I remember him proudly showing me the contraption but not much more about it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Shingle mill is just a horizontal sawmill with shorter bolts. Oh, and thick and thin is desired, not the product of a wornout mill and a mediocre sawyer. THe old guy who sawed most of my logs was a good sawyer with a worn out mill. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 8/21/19 3:35 PM: On 21/08/2019 3:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yep, it's a real lesson in the power of centrifugal force multiplied by speed. Sounds like you Dad had it all dialed in. My Grandfather was the one who got me to doing it. He had "Skills" that few had, in a bunch of old school things. Yes, my father had grown up with it. His father had a shingle mill. I don't know whether they sawed lumber as well or if it was just shingles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i'd guess the regular poulan is junk. never had one, but that is the reputation. The poulan pro are ok for home farm use in my experience. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 8/20/19 12:02 PM: A few years ago I bought a regular poulan the yellow one. It was a turd and I wore myself out just trying to start it. Took it back to Lowe’s and got the green pro one. It has been great for my needs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 21/08/2019 3:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yep, it's a real lesson in the power of centrifugal force multiplied by speed. Sounds like you Dad had it all dialed in. My Grandfather was the one who got me to doing it. He had "Skills" that few had, in a bunch of old school things. Yes, my father had grown up with it. His father had a shingle mill. I don't know whether they sawed lumber as well or if it was just shingles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Yep, it's a real lesson in the power of centrifugal force multiplied by speed. Sounds like you Dad had it all dialed in. My Grandfather was the one who got me to doing it. He had "Skills" that few had, in a bunch of old school things. On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:01 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 21/08/2019 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set > > the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct > tooth > > pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set > them > > all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade, > > you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old > > growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear, > > straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute. > > If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero > tooth > > marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway. > > > > Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion > > tool... > > http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx > > > > Yes, that is the sort of thing that we used as well. Our blade was > smaller - I think about 48 inches. > > I cannot put the sharpening and setting on my resume. My father always > did it. I sometimes watched but he was very particular about it as he > was not wanting the blade to throw teeth at him. I remember him cleaning > the blade and oiling the saw blade before using the tool to sort of roll > the insert and the new tooth into the gullet of the blade. > > One of the local fellows who ran a marina for most of his life had a > desire to have a saw mill and bought a portable unit in his retirement > years. The first time that he changed the teeth, he did not do a good > job of doing so and it threw a number of teeth at him. None hit him, > thank fully but it sure scared him. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 21/08/2019 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct tooth pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set them all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade, you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear, straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute. If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero tooth marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway. Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion tool... http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx Yes, that is the sort of thing that we used as well. Our blade was smaller - I think about 48 inches. I cannot put the sharpening and setting on my resume. My father always did it. I sometimes watched but he was very particular about it as he was not wanting the blade to throw teeth at him. I remember him cleaning the blade and oiling the saw blade before using the tool to sort of roll the insert and the new tooth into the gullet of the blade. One of the local fellows who ran a marina for most of his life had a desire to have a saw mill and bought a portable unit in his retirement years. The first time that he changed the teeth, he did not do a good job of doing so and it threw a number of teeth at him. None hit him, thank fully but it sure scared him. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct tooth pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set them all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade, you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear, straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute. If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero tooth marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway. Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion tool... http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 21/08/2019 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and > set > > the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to > > include that.. ha.. > > > Were they replaceable teeth? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 21/08/2019 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and set the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to include that.. ha.. Were they replaceable teeth? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks for your interest and sharing your family saw mill history. The family mill ran for 5 generations in the SW Missouri hardwood region. Started out as a water wheel powered mill, why back when that was the only power available, Early business also included a grist mill operation to grind flour. I still own the grist wheels, which are about 5 ft in diameter and 3 ft thick... and no, I'm not moving them.. haha.. That mill moved to steam power, then stationary engine power, finally, electric. While I was at home, we had 3 mills, all round blade type, a large, a medium, and smaller one for finish work. Late in life, Dad added a band saw mill, but he really didn't care for it.. Most of what we harvested and milled was Black Walnut, Oak, Hickory, some old growth cedar, and some other native specialty woods like sassafras and others.. Almost all the output went overseas to piano builders in Japan. They paid the big bucks so were customers of choice. Some went to high grade furniture makers... I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and set the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to include that.. ha.. On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:02 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What sort of sawmill did your family have? > > My father had a small mill and I worked in it as soon as I was big > enough to do so (about 60 years ago). Initially, I set the second dog on > the carriage and then later was the guy who picked the boards off as > they went through the saw (tail sawyer). My father was always the sawyer. > We were not much of a commercial operation. It was mainly to supply my > father with lumber he used in construction. We built docks, boathouses, > cottages etc and he liked the natural local cedar as it was rot resistant. > We had a planer but seldom used it. Most of what we produced in terms of > planking and square timbers were fine in their rough sawn condition > given what we used them for. > We normally logged some in the winter and sawed it in the spring and > summer as we needed it. > We did do some pine and spruce as well but very little hardwood - a bit > of ash- but hardwood is not all that common in NW Ontario. > > On 21/08/2019 11:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion. > > To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect > > cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to > > achieve that perfect edge. > > Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file > direction > > and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr. > > Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw" > > and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who > are > > old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at > > making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well. > > Then, practice makes perfect. > > For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and > > lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from > > electric grinders was a necessary skill. > > One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar... > makes a > > solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the > saw > > setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to > > hold the blade, that works also. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What sort of sawmill did your family have? My father had a small mill and I worked in it as soon as I was big enough to do so (about 60 years ago). Initially, I set the second dog on the carriage and then later was the guy who picked the boards off as they went through the saw (tail sawyer). My father was always the sawyer. We were not much of a commercial operation. It was mainly to supply my father with lumber he used in construction. We built docks, boathouses, cottages etc and he liked the natural local cedar as it was rot resistant. We had a planer but seldom used it. Most of what we produced in terms of planking and square timbers were fine in their rough sawn condition given what we used them for. We normally logged some in the winter and sawed it in the spring and summer as we needed it. We did do some pine and spruce as well but very little hardwood - a bit of ash- but hardwood is not all that common in NW Ontario. On 21/08/2019 11:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion. To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to achieve that perfect edge. Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file direction and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr. Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw" and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who are old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well. Then, practice makes perfect. For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from electric grinders was a necessary skill. One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar... makes a solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the saw setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to hold the blade, that works also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
>From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion. To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to achieve that perfect edge. Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file direction and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr. Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw" and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who are old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well. Then, practice makes perfect. For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from electric grinders was a necessary skill. One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar... makes a solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the saw setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to hold the blade, that works also. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There's a microscopic bent ridge of metal at the downstream edge of the > filing motion. > I like to have it on the trailing edge, some people like to have it on the > leading edge hoping it'll wear off quickly, some people like you don't > care. But I figure it's important to make every aspect possible of the > filing action identical on the left cutters and the right cutters. > Mitch. > > PS: for casual cutting, a Poulan Wild Thing, plated piston, plain cylinder > and all, is perfectly adequate. It won't last 200 hours of actual cutting > time, but how many seconds does it take to make a cut? But saws like that > tend to come with too long bars for the horsepower, and make up for it by > using a skip tooth chain. Generally speaking, a cheap skip tooth safety > chain is slow cutting, but my Dad's ten year old WildThang does OK the few > times I've used it. > > > > On August 20, 2019 at 7:52 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > > > I agree with everything Mitch wrote. Additionally a file with a guide > can help us newbies.I'd been told that it didn't matter if you went front > to back on the teeth or back to front. I think that's probably true as long > as you always do it the same way... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There's a microscopic bent ridge of metal at the downstream edge of the filing motion. I like to have it on the trailing edge, some people like to have it on the leading edge hoping it'll wear off quickly, some people like you don't care. But I figure it's important to make every aspect possible of the filing action identical on the left cutters and the right cutters. Mitch. PS: for casual cutting, a Poulan Wild Thing, plated piston, plain cylinder and all, is perfectly adequate. It won't last 200 hours of actual cutting time, but how many seconds does it take to make a cut? But saws like that tend to come with too long bars for the horsepower, and make up for it by using a skip tooth chain. Generally speaking, a cheap skip tooth safety chain is slow cutting, but my Dad's ten year old WildThang does OK the few times I've used it. > On August 20, 2019 at 7:52 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > > > I agree with everything Mitch wrote. Additionally a file with a guide can > help us newbies.I'd been told that it didn't matter if you went front to back > on the teeth or back to front. I think that's probably true as long as you > always do it the same way... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got one of their super cheap 4 1/2" grinders and one of the 6". I think they're the same motor inside, the 6" is under powered but both have been troopers and done a surprising amount of work. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: It might be the same tool, but for $10, I'll stick with the one that was reviewed. My experience with Harbor Freight electric tools has not been good overall. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > How about Harbor Freight? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=chain%20saw%20sharpener > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I agree with everything Mitch wrote. Additionally a file with a guide can help us newbies.I'd been told that it didn't matter if you went front to back on the teeth or back to front. I think that's probably true as long as you always do it the same way... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Count your file strokes. Hit a tooth with a Sharpie marker so you know when you've finished the chain and gotten back to the beginning. 2-3 strokes per tooth is plenty if you sharpen after each tank of gas and keep it out of the dirt. Hole the file parallel to the witness mark on the tooth, give it two swipes, skip a tooth and do the next. When you've filed every tooth on one side of the chain, reposition and do the other side. If you hold the file level on one side and tilt it on the other side, you'll have trouble. Push the file into the leading edge of the tooth, if you sharpen half of them from the front and half from the back, it'll cut lopsided. > On August 20, 2019 at 6:07 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yes, I've been using a hand file - not that successfully it seems though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It might be the same tool, but for $10, I'll stick with the one that was reviewed. My experience with Harbor Freight electric tools has not been good overall. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:11 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > How about Harbor Freight? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=chain%20saw%20sharpener > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Count your file strokes. Hit a tooth with a Sharpie marker so you know when you've finished the chain and gotten back to the beginning. 2-3 strokes per tooth is plenty if you sharpen after each tank of gas and keep it out of the dirt. Hole the file parallel to the witness mark on the tooth, give it two swipes, skip a tooth and do the next. When you've filed every tooth on one side of the chain, reposition and do the other side. If you hold the file level on one side and tilt it on the other side, you'll have trouble. Push the file into the leading edge of the tooth, if you sharpen half of them from the front and half from the back, it'll cut lopsided. > On August 20, 2019 at 6:07 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yes, I've been using a hand file - not that successfully it seems though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 20/08/2019 5:07 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Yes, I've been using a hand file - not that successfully it seems though. The best grinder in that review is the price of 10 new chains, I'll pass. The next best is $41 - I'll get it and try it - has to be better than what I've been doing. The hard red center in the cedar logs seems to be hard on chains ... How about Harbor Freight? https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=chain%20saw%20sharpener ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Yes, I've been using a hand file - not that successfully it seems though. The best grinder in that review is the price of 10 new chains, I'll pass. The next best is $41 - I'll get it and try it - has to be better than what I've been doing. The hard red center in the cedar logs seems to be hard on chains ... On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes, we do them by hand too some of the time, but if you use the > grinder periodically, it will even out the teeth. I keep 2 or 3 chains > and swap them out. If you use the grinder to do all of them at one time > it is fairly quick to sharpen them. It is truly amazing how well a sharp > saw can cut compared to a dull one. > > > On 20/08/2019 4:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > My personal choice is a proper size round file with a handle. Having > > developed the skill to sharpen the teeth, for myself, it is much quicker > to > > dress the teeth and get back to work... no setup or fuss. > > 5 min on a 20 inch saw, I'm back to cutting chips. You just have to learn > > to hold the file angle and feel the cut of the file.. once you have it > > down... easy. > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:25 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> You need one of these - > >> > >> https://www.2kreviews.com/best-chainsaw-sharpener/ > >> > >> It makes it easy to keep all of the teeth on the chain essentially the > >> same. That is much more difficult to do when filing by hand. > >> > >> > >> On 20/08/2019 4:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I now have a new bar, two new chains, the proper file, and the greaser > >> for > >>> the sprocket at the end of the bar. Will test it tomorrow ... > >>> > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Yes, we do them by hand too some of the time, but if you use the grinder periodically, it will even out the teeth. I keep 2 or 3 chains and swap them out. If you use the grinder to do all of them at one time it is fairly quick to sharpen them. It is truly amazing how well a sharp saw can cut compared to a dull one. On 20/08/2019 4:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: My personal choice is a proper size round file with a handle. Having developed the skill to sharpen the teeth, for myself, it is much quicker to dress the teeth and get back to work... no setup or fuss. 5 min on a 20 inch saw, I'm back to cutting chips. You just have to learn to hold the file angle and feel the cut of the file.. once you have it down... easy. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:25 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: You need one of these - https://www.2kreviews.com/best-chainsaw-sharpener/ It makes it easy to keep all of the teeth on the chain essentially the same. That is much more difficult to do when filing by hand. On 20/08/2019 4:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I now have a new bar, two new chains, the proper file, and the greaser for the sprocket at the end of the bar. Will test it tomorrow ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
My personal choice is a proper size round file with a handle. Having developed the skill to sharpen the teeth, for myself, it is much quicker to dress the teeth and get back to work... no setup or fuss. 5 min on a 20 inch saw, I'm back to cutting chips. You just have to learn to hold the file angle and feel the cut of the file.. once you have it down... easy. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:25 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You need one of these - > > https://www.2kreviews.com/best-chainsaw-sharpener/ > > It makes it easy to keep all of the teeth on the chain essentially the > same. That is much more difficult to do when filing by hand. > > > On 20/08/2019 4:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > I now have a new bar, two new chains, the proper file, and the greaser > for > > the sprocket at the end of the bar. Will test it tomorrow ... > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
You need one of these - https://www.2kreviews.com/best-chainsaw-sharpener/ It makes it easy to keep all of the teeth on the chain essentially the same. That is much more difficult to do when filing by hand. On 20/08/2019 4:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I now have a new bar, two new chains, the proper file, and the greaser for the sprocket at the end of the bar. Will test it tomorrow ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I now have a new bar, two new chains, the proper file, and the greaser for the sprocket at the end of the bar. Will test it tomorrow ... On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:20 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A bent bar will also cut in circles. It's not hard to bend them if the > saw gets pinched, > but it's hard to straighten them. It doesn't take much of a bend. > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
You may be correct... as is often with corporate mergers,, cheap and good do not survive in same environment. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 20/08/2019 1:45 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Poulan is actually made by Husky.. it's their "Cheap version" I have > > one that someone gave me because it would not run... so far, I've spent > > enough to buy a new one, it runs... but then won't start.. then it will > > run.. etc etc Known issues with them is they suck wood chips into the > > lower crankcase and trash the crank seals... which kills a two stroke... > no > > pressure, no start.. > > Now,, it's just a challenge item... I WILL make it run... or else... > > > > Is it not the other way around? My recollection is that Poulan bought > the Husky chain saw and there was major concern that the Husky would > deteriorate to the level of the Poulan. > > I have a Husky that predates that change and so far it has been fine but > it has not been used a lot. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
On 20/08/2019 1:45 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Poulan is actually made by Husky.. it's their "Cheap version" I have one that someone gave me because it would not run... so far, I've spent enough to buy a new one, it runs... but then won't start.. then it will run.. etc etc Known issues with them is they suck wood chips into the lower crankcase and trash the crank seals... which kills a two stroke... no pressure, no start.. Now,, it's just a challenge item... I WILL make it run... or else... Is it not the other way around? My recollection is that Poulan bought the Husky chain saw and there was major concern that the Husky would deteriorate to the level of the Poulan. I have a Husky that predates that change and so far it has been fine but it has not been used a lot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Poulan is actually made by Husky.. it's their "Cheap version" I have one that someone gave me because it would not run... so far, I've spent enough to buy a new one, it runs... but then won't start.. then it will run.. etc etc Known issues with them is they suck wood chips into the lower crankcase and trash the crank seals... which kills a two stroke... no pressure, no start.. Now,, it's just a challenge item... I WILL make it run... or else... On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:02 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A few years ago I bought a regular poulan the yellow one. It was a turd > and I wore myself out just trying to start it. Took it back to Lowe’s and > got the green pro one. It has been great for my needs > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 8/20/19 11:10 AM: > >> Huskysaws are "fragile" in my experience. So, you have to pay extra > >> attention to chain oiler, sharpness, etc... bad news is, "not > fragilesaws > >> cost lots more" So, unless you are cutting oak logs every day... > they > >> work good enough, if you give them attention. > > Buy a Stihl > > > > > > In my experience, the Poulan pro saws have been surprisingly good, > despite the reputation of being bad. Only problem I have had is the tube > going into the gas tank (pickup) rots and needs to be replaced often. > > > > For trimming, I like my Stihl 015. I think it is now 30-35 years old. > The equivalent saw now is about $350. Not a cheep saw. smallest > "consumer" stihl is $170 on sale, but requires 2 hands. The 105 can be > run one handed for pruning up in the tree.I have also cut substantial > trees with it. (24") > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
A few years ago I bought a regular poulan the yellow one. It was a turd and I wore myself out just trying to start it. Took it back to Lowe’s and got the green pro one. It has been great for my needs Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 8/20/19 11:10 AM: >> Huskysaws are "fragile" in my experience. So, you have to pay extra >> attention to chain oiler, sharpness, etc... bad news is, "not fragilesaws >> cost lots more" So, unless you are cutting oak logs every day... they >> work good enough, if you give them attention. > Buy a Stihl > > > In my experience, the Poulan pro saws have been surprisingly good, despite > the reputation of being bad. Only problem I have had is the tube going into > the gas tank (pickup) rots and needs to be replaced often. > > For trimming, I like my Stihl 015. I think it is now 30-35 years old. The > equivalent saw now is about $350. Not a cheep saw. smallest "consumer" > stihl is $170 on sale, but requires 2 hands. The 105 can be run one handed > for pruning up in the tree.I have also cut substantial trees with it. > (24") > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 8/20/19 11:10 AM: Huskysaws are "fragile" in my experience. So, you have to pay extra attention to chain oiler, sharpness, etc... bad news is, "not fragilesaws cost lots more" So, unless you are cutting oak logs every day... they work good enough, if you give them attention. Buy a Stihl In my experience, the Poulan pro saws have been surprisingly good, despite the reputation of being bad. Only problem I have had is the tube going into the gas tank (pickup) rots and needs to be replaced often. For trimming, I like my Stihl 015. I think it is now 30-35 years old. The equivalent saw now is about $350. Not a cheep saw. smallest "consumer" stihl is $170 on sale, but requires 2 hands. The 105 can be run one handed for pruning up in the tree. I have also cut substantial trees with it. (24") ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
A bent bar will also cut in circles. It's not hard to bend them if the saw gets pinched, but it's hard to straighten them. It doesn't take much of a bend. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Good to know the bar oil pump is making oil. It's likely the port in the bar itself is plugged then... which is the kiss of death when cutting under load. Good plan to just start fresh. When you start it all back up, run the chain above a piece of paper or cardboard and watch for oil sling, which will confirm you are getting oil to chain. The ATF will "print" nicely. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 9:07 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I checked - and yes, it is pumping oil out the port - I guess the bar was > clogged. It got smoking hot, so I'll replace it, even though I don't see > any wear. > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:06 AM OK Don wrote: > > > The blade is not loose at all in the guide bar. I didn't see any blockage > > of the oil port, but will run it without the bar as you suggest. I might > > try to blow air back through the port. > > I use a generic bar oil from the local farm store - it's thick and has > > worked for a couple of other saws. I do have some old cheap ATF to get > rid > > of --- > > The chain/bar got hot enough to smoke last time, so I'll replace them and > > try again. > > I really like how this saw starts, runs, handles, and it used to cut > > straight ... > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain > >> tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and > >> check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, > the > >> guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will > >> quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. > >> > >> If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it > >> won't get better with use. > >> While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the > >> chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. > >> If > >> you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws > are > >> finicky there. > >> What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed > >> with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the > >> fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so > >> park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are > parking > >> the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when > >> you > >> use it again. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > fence for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Chain sharpened unevenly. right side sharp. left dull. Hit a nail? Rock? OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 8/19/19 6:13 PM: Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I second the comment on keeping your chain sharp, by looking at the chips that come off the cut, When you start getting "Dust" instead of chips, stop and sharpen the chain. My experience with loss of chain oil is that you'll destroy the chain by the time you notice it's running hot, AND the guide bar slot is trashed as well.. if you only put on a new chain, it will not run true and have a short life, so always check the bar condition. Husky saws are "fragile" in my experience. So, you have to pay extra attention to chain oiler, sharpness, etc... bad news is, "not fragile saws cost lots more" So, unless you are cutting oak logs every day... they work good enough, if you give them attention. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:19 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Twist: Chain not sharpened right or worn more on one set of teeth than > the other. > Probably should replace chain if old one wasn't oiled and maybe > overheated. > Fix the oiler. Excess heat comes from dull chain. > Get the proper chain file if you don't have one. > If you watch pros they may sharpen a chain several times during a job. It > only takes a couple minutes. > "Sawdust" should be nice chips rather than dust. > > > -Original Message- > > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > > > Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the > > bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? > > > > It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) > and got really > > hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause > > and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for > > themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I checked - and yes, it is pumping oil out the port - I guess the bar was clogged. It got smoking hot, so I'll replace it, even though I don't see any wear. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:06 AM OK Don wrote: > The blade is not loose at all in the guide bar. I didn't see any blockage > of the oil port, but will run it without the bar as you suggest. I might > try to blow air back through the port. > I use a generic bar oil from the local farm store - it's thick and has > worked for a couple of other saws. I do have some old cheap ATF to get rid > of --- > The chain/bar got hot enough to smoke last time, so I'll replace them and > try again. > I really like how this saw starts, runs, handles, and it used to cut > straight ... > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain >> tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and >> check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, the >> guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will >> quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. >> >> If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it >> won't get better with use. >> While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the >> chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. >> If >> you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws are >> finicky there. >> What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed >> with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the >> fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so >> park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are parking >> the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when >> you >> use it again. >> >> >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Greenworks 80 volt battery powered. MG Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What's the best electric chain saw on the market? On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:30 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I got one of the chainsaw files with a guide on it. It's very helpful for being sure the chain is sharpened at the right angle. A lot of guys will tell you they can "sharpen it by eye" and probably some of them can but I've seen a lot of saws that try to cut in circles... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:19 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes< mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Twist: Chain not sharpened right or worn more on one set of teeth than the other. Probably should replace chain if old one wasn't oiled and maybe overheated. Fix the oiler. Excess heat comes from dull chain. Get the proper chain file if you don't have one. If you watch pros they may sharpen a chain several times during a job. It only takes a couple minutes. "Sawdust" should be nice chips rather than dust. -Original Message- From: OK Don via Mercedes Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
The blade is not loose at all in the guide bar. I didn't see any blockage of the oil port, but will run it without the bar as you suggest. I might try to blow air back through the port. I use a generic bar oil from the local farm store - it's thick and has worked for a couple of other saws. I do have some old cheap ATF to get rid of --- The chain/bar got hot enough to smoke last time, so I'll replace them and try again. I really like how this saw starts, runs, handles, and it used to cut straight ... On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:28 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain > tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and > check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, the > guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will > quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. > > If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it > won't get better with use. > While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the > chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. If > you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws are > finicky there. > What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed > with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the > fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so > park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are parking > the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when you > use it again. > > > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
What's the best electric chain saw on the market? On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:30 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I got one of the chainsaw files with a guide on it. It's very helpful for > being sure the chain is sharpened at the right angle. A lot of guys will > tell you they can "sharpen it by eye" and probably some of them can but > I've seen a lot of saws that try to cut in circles... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:19 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Twist: Chain not sharpened right or worn > more on one set of teeth than the other. > Probably should replace chain if old one wasn't oiled and maybe > overheated. > Fix the oiler. Excess heat comes from dull chain. > Get the proper chain file if you don't have one. > If you watch pros they may sharpen a chain several times during a job. It > only takes a couple minutes. > "Sawdust" should be nice chips rather than dust. > > > -Original Message- > > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > > > Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the > > bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? > > > > It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) > and got really > > hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause > > and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for > > themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I got one of the chainsaw files with a guide on it. It's very helpful for being sure the chain is sharpened at the right angle. A lot of guys will tell you they can "sharpen it by eye" and probably some of them can but I've seen a lot of saws that try to cut in circles... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:19 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Twist: Chain not sharpened right or worn more on one set of teeth than the other. Probably should replace chain if old one wasn't oiled and maybe overheated. Fix the oiler. Excess heat comes from dull chain. Get the proper chain file if you don't have one. If you watch pros they may sharpen a chain several times during a job. It only takes a couple minutes. "Sawdust" should be nice chips rather than dust. > -Original Message- > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the > bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? > > It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and > got really > hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause > and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for > themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
Twist: Chain not sharpened right or worn more on one set of teeth than the other. Probably should replace chain if old one wasn't oiled and maybe overheated. Fix the oiler. Excess heat comes from dull chain. Get the proper chain file if you don't have one. If you watch pros they may sharpen a chain several times during a job. It only takes a couple minutes. "Sawdust" should be nice chips rather than dust. > -Original Message- > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the > bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? > > It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and > got really > hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause > and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for > themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I've had my Husky for nearly as long as we've had our house, so 12 years I think. It's cut many cords of wood. I did have to clean the carb after a bad gas incident. I only use canned gas now. It's expensive but I only burn a quart or two a year so it's worth it. Dad bought a cheap Poulin to have at camp, it's garbage, not worth a penny... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:20 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I screwed around with a husq way too much, lost lots of time and money dealing with it constantly. Gave up and bought a Stihl. No issues with it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain > tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and > check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, the > guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will > quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. > > If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it > won't get better with use. > While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the > chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. If > you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws are > finicky there. > What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed > with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the > fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so > park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are parking > the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when you > use it again. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 5:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I have to be really careful when I sharpen the chain, I tend to make them >> want to cut in circles which they really don't like. >> My Husqvarna tends to leak out the oil when it gets warm. I try to make >> sure its empty when I store it otherwise theres a puddle. >> What saw do you have? I've got a 445 which is probably a little smaller >> than I should have bought. I've been lusting after a 450 or 455 but then >> the last time we were at camp I sharpened the chain really carefully until >> it was razor sharp. With the chain super sharp the saw would fly through >> anything I put it to and it wasn't that long before my arms gave out. >> Dad bought a Harbor Freight battery powered electric chainsaw and really >> likes it. Says its the bees knees for trimming trees. >> >> -Curt >> >> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 7:14:20 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the >> bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? >> >> It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and >> got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence >> for themselves." >> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I screwed around with a husq way too much, lost lots of time and money dealing with it constantly. Gave up and bought a Stihl. No issues with it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain > tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and > check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, the > guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will > quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. > > If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it > won't get better with use. > While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the > chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. If > you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws are > finicky there. > What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed > with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the > fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so > park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are parking > the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when you > use it again. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 5:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I have to be really careful when I sharpen the chain, I tend to make them >> want to cut in circles which they really don't like. >> My Husqvarna tends to leak out the oil when it gets warm. I try to make >> sure its empty when I store it otherwise theres a puddle. >> What saw do you have? I've got a 445 which is probably a little smaller >> than I should have bought. I've been lusting after a 450 or 455 but then >> the last time we were at camp I sharpened the chain really carefully until >> it was razor sharp. With the chain super sharp the saw would fly through >> anything I put it to and it wasn't that long before my arms gave out. >> Dad bought a Harbor Freight battery powered electric chainsaw and really >> likes it. Says its the bees knees for trimming trees. >> >> -Curt >> >>On Monday, August 19, 2019, 7:14:20 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the >> bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? >> >> It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and >> got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence >> for themselves." >> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I suspect your chain oiler has not worked for some time. With the chain tension set "loose" move the chain in the guide bar, side to side, and check for play. If the chain and bar have not been lubed as it should, the guide slot and the chain drive lugs [part that tracks in the slot] will quickly get excessive wear and the chain will not track as it should. If the chain runs loose side to side, replace the bar and the chain, it won't get better with use. While you have the bar off, run the engine and look for oil flow out the chain oiler... you should see a nice fat drip after a minute of running. If you don't, you got a wood chip [sawdust] in the oil port.. Husky saws are finicky there. What weight oil are you using for chain oil? Try running some ATF mixed with what ever you are running. Cheap ATF works, doesn't have to be the fancy stuff. Thin oil will leak out when you are not running the saw, so park it with the blade up. lay the saw on it's side, or if you are parking the saw for a while, pour out the blade oil and remember to refill when you use it again. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 5:47 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have to be really careful when I sharpen the chain, I tend to make them > want to cut in circles which they really don't like. > My Husqvarna tends to leak out the oil when it gets warm. I try to make > sure its empty when I store it otherwise theres a puddle. > What saw do you have? I've got a 445 which is probably a little smaller > than I should have bought. I've been lusting after a 450 or 455 but then > the last time we were at camp I sharpened the chain really carefully until > it was razor sharp. With the chain super sharp the saw would fly through > anything I put it to and it wasn't that long before my arms gave out. > Dad bought a Harbor Freight battery powered electric chainsaw and really > likes it. Says its the bees knees for trimming trees. > > -Curt > > On Monday, August 19, 2019, 7:14:20 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the > bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? > > It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and > got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
I have to be really careful when I sharpen the chain, I tend to make them want to cut in circles which they really don't like. My Husqvarna tends to leak out the oil when it gets warm. I try to make sure its empty when I store it otherwise theres a puddle. What saw do you have? I've got a 445 which is probably a little smaller than I should have bought. I've been lusting after a 450 or 455 but then the last time we were at camp I sharpened the chain really carefully until it was razor sharp. With the chain super sharp the saw would fly through anything I put it to and it wasn't that long before my arms gave out. Dad bought a Harbor Freight battery powered electric chainsaw and really likes it. Says its the bees knees for trimming trees. -Curt On Monday, August 19, 2019, 7:14:20 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - chain saws
Why does my low time Husqvarna chain saw want to twist the far end of the bar/chain clockwise when I try to cut a log with it? It also failed to oil the chain last time I tried to use it (yesterday) and got really hot - took it apart and could not find a blockage - not happy! -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws
Stihl seems to have a rabid following. I consider it a Ford vs Chevy debate, I bought the Husky because theres a dealer (I bought from a saw shop) near my house and the Stihl guy is miles and miles away. Stihl seems to run a lot more money for the same size/power saw too. I'm very anti-Poulin for the new ones, seems like they only make really cheap crap. We've got an old (probably 30 years) Echo at camp. Its a good saw but overkill for what we need and HEAVY. I can run my Husky for a lot longer because its lighter and doesn't vibrate as much. A helmet with ear and eye protection is a vital component too as are chaps if for not other reason than they protect you when you bull through the brush. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 17:31:36 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws Message-ID: a0624083ecdb5c86bad2b@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Just yesterday I noticed that Tractor Supply switched from Husqvarna to Jonsered. AFAIK Jonsered makes good saws but doesn't have much for name recognition, at least around here... -Curt Red Jonesies are popular in N WI where a lot of people heat with wood. For my money I'd still buy stihl. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Once again, I am coming in late. I have a Husquvarna (sp??) that I quite like. Got it at Lowe's in the USA for something over $200 a couple of years back. Not the Rancher but the next one down. Lighter, quieter and more powerful than what I was used to and probably safer too. We had a pair of old Homelite XL's that would not die. A blue one that was probably bought around 1970 and then a red one that was likely purchased around 1980. Still have the red one and sold the blue one to a friend of my younger son. Red one could use a new chain but apart from that, no real issues. However, I am not sure about parts availability. Randy On 10/05/2013 8:25 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have the blue one, an XL12 I think. --R On 5/13/13 3:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: We had a pair of old Homelite XL's that would not die. A blue one that was probably bought around 1970 and then a red one that was likely purchased around 1980. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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#1 son just came and cut several volunteer cherry laurels with an orange Husky that I gave 'im several years ago. 'Got it a Lowe's and used it only once or so before I gave it to 'im. Wilton From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca I have a Husquvarna (sp??) that I quite like. Got it at Lowe's in the USA for something over $200 a couple of years back. -powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nothing better than to be born as Wilton's grand kid, eh? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: #1 son just came and cut several volunteer cherry laurels with an orange Husky that I gave 'im several years ago. 'Got it a Lowe's and used it only once or so before I gave it to 'im. Wilton From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca I have a Husquvarna (sp??) that I quite like. Got it at Lowe's in the USA for something over $200 a couple of years back. -powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I've given the grandchildren a bunch, too. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws Nothing better than to be born as Wilton's grand kid, eh? On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: #1 son just came and cut several volunteer cherry laurels with an orange Husky that I gave 'im several years ago. 'Got it a Lowe's and used it only once or so before I gave it to 'im. Wilton From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca I have a Husquvarna (sp??) that I quite like. Got it at Lowe's in the USA for something over $200 a couple of years back. -powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When we moved into the house (just over 6 years ago) I bought a Husqvarna 445 (I think its a 445 anyway) which is (was) the top end of the homeowner line. It uses the smaller chain and interestingly has a plastic bottom end which makes it very light, mine has an 18 bar although it'll supposedly handle 20. I paid right around $300 A year later Dad bought a cheapo Poulin at Walmart for something like $80. It the definition of cheap, cheap all over. Mine is the best saw I've ever had, Dad's is junk. When I bought it I very nearly went up one model (450?) but it was nearly $100 more. When I'm cutting a lot I wish I had, most times I don't. Just yesterday I noticed that Tractor Supply switched from Husqvarna to Jonsered. AFAIK Jonsered makes good saws but doesn't have much for name recognition, at least around here... -Curt Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:25:29 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws Message-ID: m1a9o2wbna@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've had the chain come off the bar, come around and pop me one on the hand, wear gloved while cutting. I suspect this is why the enviro-weenies spiked trees in the '80s, that might cause the chain to break but I agree as with most chains it should give loads of advance warning before actually breaking. -Curt Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 03:43:34 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws Message-ID: CALHJ_1Bp6XGnG-Y=q6ohzt0xzemzcq2sgxjw_uvkvsppnlo...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would like to hear from someone that has actually witnessed a saw chain breaking...been around saws my whole life and never seen it. Most chain saw injuries are due to carelessness. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: Just yesterday I noticed that Tractor Supply switched from Husqvarna to Jonsered. AFAIK Jonsered makes good saws but doesn't have much for name recognition, at least around here... Husqvarna, Jonsered and Poulan went under the same ownership some time ago. IIRC, Electrolux spun off the outdoor power equipment division a few years ago and the parent company is named Husqvarna again. In recent years, Jonsered were red Huskies, usually with minor differences like a more perpendicular handlebar angle. That allowed the guys who liked an angled handlebar to buy Husky and the ones who liked a straighter bar to buy Jonsered, while getting the same quality saw. It also allowed pro saw shops to carry Jonsered without all the people who bought Huskies at TSC trying to come in for warranty service. Husqvarna is repositioning their various chainsaw names, so that might be subject to change. I hope the Jonsered name doesn't go downmarket like Poulan did. I just checked the Jonsered web site, it still has the pro saws listed, like the 2153 (equals Husky 346XP) and 2171. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: I suspect this is why the enviro-weenies spiked trees in the '80s, that might cause the chain to break but I agree as with most chains it should give loads of advance warning before actually breaking. I don't remember the exact mechanics involved, but the object of those terrorist acts was to inflict serious injury on blue collar workers, and it did work to some extent but I don't think anybody was permanently disabled by it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think the idea of the terrorist act was to cause damage at the saw mill if the spike was hit by a blade. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I suspect this is why the enviro-weenies spiked trees in the '80s, that might cause the chain to break but I agree as with most chains it should give loads of advance warning before actually breaking. I don't remember the exact mechanics involved, but the object of those terrorist acts was to inflict serious injury on blue collar workers, and it did work to some extent but I don't think anybody was permanently disabled by it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep. A spike will raise holy hell with a sawmill. Imagine that big blade exploding into hundreds of pieces! They use metal detectors and x-ray to prevent that now. Mike On May 12, 2013 9:42 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I think the idea of the terrorist act was to cause damage at the saw mill if the spike was hit by a blade. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I suspect this is why the enviro-weenies spiked trees in the '80s, that might cause the chain to break but I agree as with most chains it should give loads of advance warning before actually breaking. I don't remember the exact mechanics involved, but the object of those terrorist acts was to inflict serious injury on blue collar workers, and it did work to some extent but I don't think anybody was permanently disabled by it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Max wrote: I think the idea of the terrorist act was to cause damage at the saw mill if the spike was hit by a blade. Then they would have spiked them up high instead of where the loggers used their chain saws. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hey Max - we finally agree on something! I am scared sh*tless of chain saws and have always paid someone or used a high quality bow saw. On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have one of those orange things from Lowes, once I get it running it is pretty good. It takes a while to get started, might be the crappy gas or something. I have a 45 or 50 yo Homelite XL that I like but the pickup got goobered and I have not fixed it. It has no safety features whatsoever but ran and cut great. I remember when my dad bought it, I think he used it like twice. --R Any chainsaw should have the gas tank empties and run dry. I have a 30 YO chainsaw that i took to the shop once, just 'cuz I figgered it was time after 30 years. Mix the gas ratio carefully and consistently. Don't put the mixed gas in your saw if it smells old. These two are for ppl like me who use a saw only on occasion: Dump out any gas that is left over when the job is done. Then run the saw out of gas before storing. That's the only way my saw made it 30 yrs without seeing a shop. I wanted to have a kit put in the carb before the saw guy retired to kicked the bucket. SO, it should be good for the next 30 yrs... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just yesterday I noticed that Tractor Supply switched from Husqvarna to Jonsered. AFAIK Jonsered makes good saws but doesn't have much for name recognition, at least around here... -Curt Red Jonesies are popular in N WI where a lot of people heat with wood. For my money I'd still buy stihl. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Must be the only thing. Well, we also have cats in our house, but that's it as far as similarities, can only be TWO things. Oh wait, we both work for uncle Sam. That's got to be the last thing... You know I suspect you also love our country. I think this list of similarities is starting to get scary! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Max - we finally agree on something! I am scared sh*tless of chain saws and have always paid someone or used a high quality bow saw. On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Depends on how big of trees you plan to cut. If nothing you plan to cut is over 8 or so look at an Echo 14 or 16. They are very light, super dependable, plenty powerful enough to cut up the big stuff and very well balanced for one hand use when doing a lot of small stuff. If you are doing primarily small stuff and limbing look for a saw you can run one handed(handle on top) once you are comfortable with it. You will be glad you did. For a bigger saw, in my opinion, nothing beats the new Jonsered saws. Light for the size, smooth running, good handles, easy maintenance, excellent quality and TONS of monster size wood chip chuckin' power..lol. Only downside to either is price but you are buying a machine that will last you your lifetime if you care for it right. Otherwise, if you want a cheap saw you can throw around, not give a crap about and depend on to run every time you need it get a Poulan Wild Thing that comes with the 18 bar. Replace the 18 with a 16 and a decent quality chain so it has enough power to run it. Run nothing but non ethanol gas and Poulan synyhetic 2 cycle oil. $150 or so total, crude, plastic, vibrates a lot, but otherwise can't be beat for the price. I've had one for about 5 years or so and ,knock on wood, it has never let me down. I have cut a LOT of firewood with it. Just my $.02, Mike On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you simply use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what you are doing at all times. Mike On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, but there is zero room for error. And if the chain breaks during operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc. Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all recommended. Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw accident once every year or two in the area I grew up. The resulting injuries were usually horrific, if the logger lived. Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if (a) you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from you. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you simply use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what you are doing at all times. Mike On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would like to hear from someone that has actually witnessed a saw chain breaking...been around saws my whole life and never seen it. Most chain saw injuries are due to carelessness. Mike On May 11, 2013 3:06 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, but there is zero room for error. And if the chain breaks during operation, it can easily destroy an arm, or a leg, or your face, etc. Leggings, helmet, eye protection, gloves, hearing protection, all recommended. Unfortunately an area logger would usually suffer a chain saw accident once every year or two in the area I grew up. The resulting injuries were usually horrific, if the logger lived. Don't forget that all the protective equipment in the world won't help if (a) you don't use it and (b) the tree falls on you instead of away from you. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: A chain saw is no more dangerous than any other power tool if you simply use common sense, go slow, wear safety gear andnpay attention to what you are doing at all times. Mike On May 11, 2013 2:40 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I can't help you with selecting the right machine, but I would advise that you take all safety precautions very seriously. A chain saw is probably the single most dangerous tool a man can ever use. If you can take a class locally, you can probably get some great tips on how to operate one safely. I grew up in a house of chain saw users, and all our neighbors were users, but I managed to never learn to use one. My wife wants me to borrow one to remove a few limbs from a tree, but I plan to pay someone else to do it. I think the risk of injury for a novice is just too great. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Allan Streib wrote: Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? I'm partial to Stihl. Maybe it's the german engineering... Anyway, I have two, a big and a little one - but I cut a lot of wood. For years I had only the big one, which did the job fine but for limbing it was heavy. Yet for the big wood a big saw is rather necessary. Recently I added the small one to the fleet. It's mighty handy and the 4 lb [2 kg] weight savings makes a big difference. For what you are describing, a Stihl MS 180 could fit your needs nicely. http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/homeowner-saws/ms180cbe/ For those who don't like jerking the starter rope, a recent option is Easy2Start™ System, a spring loaded starter where a steady pull winds a spring which then spins the engine. I got to help a friend who has one. It really does work, and seems to be durable as well. If you often cut pieces greater than 12 inches [30 cm] in diameter, you may wish for a bigger saw, but otherwise it's a handy size. Beyond the saw, I would recommend rugged boots, chaps (with the saw jamming stuffing), safety glasses, hardhat with face guard, and sharpening tools. Just remember, a good saw will cut the wood right quick - and cut your leg even faster! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Michael Canfield wrote: I would like to hear from someone that has actually witnessed a saw chain breaking...been around saws my whole life and never seen it. Most chain saw injuries are due to carelessness. It only takes an instant of carelessness. I once got my little Husqvarna stuck in a little sapling, and I committed the unpardonable sin of letting go of the front handlebar when I wanted to bend the tree back to free my saw. Naturally, when the tree let go of the saw, it started to fall towards my leg. My instinctive response was to grab on tight. If I were holding onto the handlebar, I would have been holding it at the balance point and far from the trigger. Since I was holding the rear handle, the bar wanted to swing down at my legs and grabbing tight gave me full throttle. Now I had a screaming saw falling towards my leg. I arrested the fall about an inch from my kneecap. I shut off the saw and went home. Ordered kevlar chaps and a forester's helmet the next day. Haven't needed the chaps yet, but the face shield on the helmet has kept twigs away from my eyes a few times. Some simple rules: Never put a body part above and in line with the bar and chain. Stand off to the left of the line of cut. You don't want a kickback to hit you in the forehead. Never let go of the front handle. Always engage the chain brake before walking with the saw, even a couple of steps between cuts. Only takes a second to click the brake on and off, and you want the brake on if you trip or fall. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have one of those orange things from Lowes, once I get it running it is pretty good. It takes a while to get started, might be the crappy gas or something. I have a 45 or 50 yo Homelite XL that I like but the pickup got goobered and I have not fixed it. It has no safety features whatsoever but ran and cut great. I remember when my dad bought it, I think he used it like twice. --R On 5/11/13 12:38 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- I have liked Stihl, but if you can find a 40 yr old Homelite super EZ (16) they are nice. the big box poulans are cheap and surprisingly reliable for new saws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense. Maintenance is easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield. I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is important to check the manual how far you can go. Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are several real advantages to electric saws. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I now use an electric chain saw for little stuff (some probably bigger than I should). People pass in the street and see me out in the yard with my walker and a chain saw and get all excited. Occasionally somebody with stop, get out and come up to me asking with eyes wide, Are you OK? so far I've been able to answer, Yes, I'm OK, I know what I'm doing, and I can handle it. What I'd like to say is, Just leave me the hell alone. (I have trouble walking without aid only - if I can get to it, I can do it.) Coupla days ago, I had pulled front wheels of my JD garden tractor/mower up onto edge of a small terrace in front yard with rear wheels still on lower level in order to elevate mower deck so I could reach under it to free a branch caught under it. 'Left engine off, tranny in gear and brakes locked and dismounted; 'was lying down beside the mower and reaching up under the deck when I heard some commotion behind me; 'raised up and looked around to find two excited women running across yard toward me, one of 'em calling 911. I quickly told them, I'm OK - just trying to clear an obstruction under the deck - I'm OK, but thank you for your concern. You did the right thing, and don't hesitate to do it again, if you think somebody is in trouble. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense. Maintenance is easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield. I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is important to check the manual how far you can go. Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are several real advantages to electric saws. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Attaboy Wilton! Mike On May 11, 2013 12:50 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I now use an electric chain saw for little stuff (some probably bigger than I should). People pass in the street and see me out in the yard with my walker and a chain saw and get all excited. Occasionally somebody with stop, get out and come up to me asking with eyes wide, Are you OK? so far I've been able to answer, Yes, I'm OK, I know what I'm doing, and I can handle it. What I'd like to say is, Just leave me the hell alone. (I have trouble walking without aid only - if I can get to it, I can do it.) Coupla days ago, I had pulled front wheels of my JD garden tractor/mower up onto edge of a small terrace in front yard with rear wheels still on lower level in order to elevate mower deck so I could reach under it to free a branch caught under it. 'Left engine off, tranny in gear and brakes locked and dismounted; 'was lying down beside the mower and reaching up under the deck when I heard some commotion behind me; 'raised up and looked around to find two excited women running across yard toward me, one of 'em calling 911. I quickly told them, I'm OK - just trying to clear an obstruction under the deck - I'm OK, but thank you for your concern. You did the right thing, and don't hesitate to do it again, if you think somebody is in trouble. Thank you. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws On May 10, 2013 9:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. For intermittent use, electric makes a lot of sense. Maintenance is easier, safety is easier (pull the plug), much lighter to carry and wield. I've used as much as 200' of 12 gauge extension cord, though it is important to check the manual how far you can go. Anyway, if you can't you can't, I just wanted to point out that there are several real advantages to electric saws. Best, Tim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Supplemental: I have about 50 acres around my house and it's mostly wooded. I have a cheap Poulan Pro 16 inch chain say that I use for small jobs, like removing fallen trees that obstruct my dirt trails. I also used a borrowed Poulan Wild Thing 18 inch saw that worked well. I moved here (NC) from FL where chain saws were always needed post-hurricane if you wanted to get out of your neighborhood or sometimes even out of your driveway. So a sharp and easy-starting chain saw has been a requirement in my world for decades. If I used one daily I would have gone with a higher-end model but I only need to use mine every couple months so I went with a consumer-grade product. Just a guess, but I think proper maintenance will effect chain saw longevity more than brand. The safety warnings from various other posters are deadly serious. I have at least two acquaintances who suffered chain saw injuries and it wasn't pretty. Don't overestimate your capability. Professional tree services are exceedingly cheap compared to emergency rooms and lost income. I have had very good luck with my cheap chain saws but even the most expensive Stihl will give you problems if you run it on stale gas, let old gas gum up the carb, or fail to keep the gas and oil homogenized. Also, the chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file. I have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and angle. It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also dangerous. A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and that's when they break (serious hazard). As you cut, the sawdust should come out as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:26 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need. You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc. Pro-grade saws will cost 2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff. Whatever you get: (1) don't store it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't use old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3) agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and (5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a sharpener I bought from Sears ages ago, a Dremel with a little attachment to hold a proper-sized grinding stone (whatever diameter for your chain, about 1.5in long) at the proper place and with markings for the proper angle. You can do a chain in just a few minutes with it. Will make a huge difference in your cutting, and much safer too. --R On 5/11/13 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Also, the chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file. I have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and angle. It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also dangerous. A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and that's when they break (serious hazard). As you cut, the sawdust should come out as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Years ago, I had a sharpener with a guide and grinding stone that chucked in a drill. It wasn't that great because the grinding stone wore to the point it was too small in diameter to sharpen properly. It was also slow to use and required 110v for the drill (pre cordless days). I now use a file and a guide like this: http://www.amazon.com/Oregon-Chain-File-Guide-25892/dp/B4RA76 This tool is cheaper, faster, requires no AC power, and does a great job. Just wear work gloves and it only takes a few strokes (like 4-10, same on each tooth) to make a chain cut like new. I typically do all the teeth facing one way first and then all the ones facing the other way. The only trick is keeping track of which teeth are already done so you don't miss any or double sharpen any. You need to buy the specific model file and guide (diameter and angle) for your particular chain. If you watch the pros work, the cut guy in the bucket will lower his saw several times during the job for one of the ground guys to sharpen. The guys I hired just used a file (no guide) I guess they were experienced enough they don't need a guide. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws I have a sharpener I bought from Sears ages ago, a Dremel with a little attachment to hold a proper-sized grinding stone (whatever diameter for your chain, about 1.5in long) at the proper place and with markings for the proper angle. You can do a chain in just a few minutes with it. Will make a huge difference in your cutting, and much safer too. --R On 5/11/13 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Also, the chain will get dull with use so don't hesitate to sharpen it with a file. I have a guide that clips to the file to help maintain the right depth and angle. It's pretty easy to keep the chain sharp and a dull chain is also dangerous. A dull chain (or one without chain oil) will overheat and that's when they break (serious hazard). As you cut, the sawdust should come out as chunks not dust; if not your chain is dull. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On May 10, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. Stihl Farm boss http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/farm-and-ranch-saws/ms290/ Husqvarna Rancher http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/455-rancher/ Echo CS-450 http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Chain-Saws/CS-450 The Husky can be purchased at Lowes. The other saws need to be sourced from a local or online dealer. You will not be happy with a lesser saw if you cut more than 10 minutes at a time. I am unsure of your age, but I am in my fifties and the vibration attenuation alone provided by my Stihl is worth every dime. I cannot afford the pins and needles of carpel tunnel at this time in my life. Also of note, the chains these saws are equipped with are fine for those that are unaccustomed to handling a chainsaw, but are unacceptable for any real woodcutting. I imagine they are mandated by government regulations to protect people from themselves, and the company's from predatory attorneys (present company excepted). You want pro chain like this. http://www.oregonproducts.com/pro/2013Catalog.htm Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? I didn't know chain saws could be rented. That sounds like a good way to learn about what you might want. Do wear ear muffs and safety chaps. The rental people probably provide them with the saw. For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple times a week. Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my fields or across farm roads. I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house and sell another 6 or 8 to long term customers. The Stihl saws have been the best. For the last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of Stihl 026s with 16 bars and Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels from baileysonline.com. I make the loops with a hand tool. At the end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each tooth a pass or two with a file. Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length and I measure each raker with a gauge. You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will do more than you think. For example your neighbors may become very friendly. So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting a quality saw. They are so much more satisfying to use than the homeowner ones. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Gardening is all about the urge for excellence. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 11, 2013, at 19:52, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? I didn't know chain saws could be rented. That sounds like a good way to learn about what you might want. Do wear ear muffs and safety chaps. The rental people probably provide them with the saw. For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple times a week. Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my fields or across farm roads. I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house and sell another 6 or 8 to long term customers. The Stihl saws have been the best. For the last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of Stihl 026s with 16 bars and Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels from baileysonline.com. I make the loops with a hand tool. At the end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each tooth a pass or two with a file. Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length and I measure each raker with a gauge. You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will do more than you think. For example your neighbors may become very friendly. So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting a quality saw. They are so much more satisfying to use than the homeowner ones. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Gardening is all about the urge for excellence. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good advice, I like my Craftsman 18 inch. As said I drain the fuel out during the winter and replace with a little sea foam, I'll crank it over to get the fuel out of the lines and the sea foam in them ( alot of people do the same with sta-bil, i just prefer the sea foam). as to renting, a chain saw is one of those tings we have in the garage we may use once or twice a year, along with the roto-tiller, that we are glad to have when we need it, I've had mine for 7 years and maybe used it a dozen times, But I know it's there... On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need. You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc. Pro-grade saws will cost 2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff. Whatever you get: (1) don't store it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't use old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3) agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and (5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Trent Fiorini BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 buymbpa...@gmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've noticed the prices on new chains are almost as cheap has having them re-sharpened. I have a retied guy near me that does mine, I think it's his hobby, he only charges $5. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 11, 2013, at 19:52, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote: I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? I didn't know chain saws could be rented. That sounds like a good way to learn about what you might want. Do wear ear muffs and safety chaps. The rental people probably provide them with the saw. For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple times a week. Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my fields or across farm roads. I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house and sell another 6 or 8 to long term customers. The Stihl saws have been the best. For the last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of Stihl 026s with 16 bars and Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels from baileysonline.com. I make the loops with a hand tool. At the end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each tooth a pass or two with a file. Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length and I measure each raker with a gauge. You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will do more than you think. For example your neighbors may become very friendly. So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting a quality saw. They are so much more satisfying to use than the homeowner ones. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Gardening is all about the urge for excellence. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Trent Fiorini BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 buymbpa...@gmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On May 11, 2013, at 7:56 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: You can probably get good used chains cheap from the rental places too... I'm sure they get flogged harder than a rented mule... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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David Kristin Gilmore wrote: I didn't know chain saws could be rented. That sounds like a good way to learn about what you might want. Do wear ear muffs and safety chaps. The rental people probably provide them with the saw. Home Depot rented Dolmar/Makita 6400/6401 saws last I knew. If you could get one of those used saws for a couple of hundred, that would be great, but there's a waiting list at my local HD. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: chain saws
I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Needs to be gas-powered... Aren't there any diesel powered units out there??? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:25 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sounds like any 16-18 inch consumer-grade chainsaw will fit your need. You'll find several types at Walmart, Lowes, etc. Pro-grade saws will cost 2x-3x the price of the homeowner stuff. Whatever you get: (1) don't store it with fuel in the tank (or you'll need to replace the carb), (2) don't use old fuel; store your fuel-oil mix in a small can for that reason, (3) agitate the fuel can before pouring and agitate the saw before using, and (5) buy a file (in the correct size) to sharpen the chain. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:25 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] OT: chain saws I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Having one is better than not, if you need one at all. You'll use it more than you think. I'm very partial to my Stihl. I was sick of my cheapie that appeared to be frightened of wood. (It'd only run if it wasn't close to any. Seriously!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to keep it maintained. I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find much. Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical. Don't really know much about them. I don't need anything lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either. It's probably something I will only use a few times a year. Maybe should just rent one as needed? Allan -- I have liked Stihl, but if you can find a 40 yr old Homelite super EZ (16) they are nice. the big box poulans are cheap and surprisingly reliable for new saws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: I'm definitely in the newbie catagory. You should definitely download this book: http://courses.forestry.ubc.ca/bendickson/FOPRLibrary/Library/Safe%20Work/WCB%20fallers_buckers.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/dxa9yj You might want to read some of the safety threads on ArboristSite. One important rule I learned the hard way is The left hand never leaves the handlebar unless the engine is off or the brake is set. Nothing like squeezing the throttle unintentionally when you're trying to one hand a saw that's falling towards your knee. Eye, ear and leg protection are must-haves. I use this combo hat, but it's got cheap muffs that don't seal well. OK for occasional use, but if I need to replace it I'm buying Peltor or Rockman next time. http://www.labonville.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=125idcategory=47 Here's a good source for USA made leg protection. I've got the Competition model, but at today's prices, I'd get the regular strength full wrap chaps. http://www.labonville.com/shop/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=14 http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?p=1562911 http://www.lni.wa.gov/Safety/TrainTools/Videos/Library/catalog.asp?VideoID=V0969 http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=111926 If you need any more convincing, here's a pic of what a leg looks like after getting nicked by a 50cc Stihl: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: maxleg.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 53521 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091017/20a12baf/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Yikes! I meant 435. No point in buying a Husky if the model number starts with 2, may as well buy the Poulan version instead and same some money. (Husky, Poulan, Redmax, and Jonsered are the same company) Curt has a stratified charge Husky that he likes, I think it's a 445. Another vote for the Husky 4xx series here. I have a 445---it's a beautifully made machine and a joy to use. Keep in mind that with chainsaws, as with kitchen knives or any other cutting tool, when you spend more money the most important thing you get is more safety---the easier you can control the direction and depth of the cut, the less likely you are to hurt yourself. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It all depends on what you expect of it... Last year I bought a Husky 445, I paid right around $300, its also an 18 and it ROCKS. Prior to getting it the best saw I'd ever used was an '80s vintage Echo 510EVL which is a good saw but the Husky is better, low weight and vibration, good power, good balance, great saw, I'd buy another. So you're asking about a saw with the same size bar for half the money... -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:19:47 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - chain saws To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980910151719p6bf1220aqde65bf66cb7fc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091015/a3b1c740/attachment.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091016/b78c7ba9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks! That's some good info --- On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: No, it's yellow - Poulan Pro PP4218AVX I'm not familiar with that one, but the model number makes me wonder if it's a yellow Wild Thing. Hopefully, if they put the PP name on it they put a plated cylinder in it. The Wild Thing is a world class POS, with a chrome plated piston running in an untreated bore. Since few customers put ten hours on the thing, most of them don't wear it out. There's only one $100 pro-built saw out there, the refurbished Ryobi 10532: http://www.toolsnow.com/ryobi-gas-chainsaw.html Vertically split magnesium crankcase, and the bar mount studs thread into the magnesium, not into plastic. (and yes, it looks like something Tonka would market) http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=100462 If you want a new homeowner saw instead of one of those used store return refurbs, then I suggest you go to TSC and drop $200 on a much better Poulan Pro 330, or go to the Stihl dealer and pick up a MS-181, or maybe a Husky 235. Or maybe I'll sell you my John Deere CS-36LE, which is still sealed in the factory carton. http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=111305 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091016/5885b37f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - chain saws
Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091015/a3b1c740/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. If it is a new saw it will be fine for occasional homeowner type use. I have a Stihl, but then I heat with wood. If you are going to be sawing for more than 15-20 minutes at a time, you should consider a higher quality saw. Carpal tunnel syndrome from vibration sucks, and to my knowledge is irreversible. Stihl, Echo, and Husqvarna are all considered higher quality saws. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Agree poulan is ok for occ use, best is stihl Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. If it is a new saw it will be fine for occasional homeowner type use. I have a Stihl, but then I heat with wood. If you are going to be sawing for more than 15-20 minutes at a time, you should consider a higher quality saw. Carpal tunnel syndrome from vibration sucks, and to my knowledge is irreversible. Stihl, Echo, and Husqvarna are all considered higher quality saws. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that the orange one they sell at Lowe's? I bought chainsaw there a coupla months ago, I think it is a Poulan. It has a brake feature that you pull back on the guard to lock the chain so when you start it you won't cut your hand off or something. The second day of cutting up a BIG oak tree that thing broke and locked the chain so it was unusable. Back to Lowes, they gave me a new one which has worked fine. I have an old (like 45yr) Homelite that was a great saw until the fuel pickup quit picking up, I haven't fooled with it though I did find parts are nearly unobtainable. And another one my dad had that refuses to idle but runs fine if you keep it wide open. Kinda hard to use. I tried to adjust that one, 2 cycles mystify me. The orange one seems better so far. --R OK Don wrote: Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, it's yellow - Poulan Pro PP4218AVX 18-Inch 42cc 2-Stroke Gas Powered Anti-Vibration Chain Saw http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001SQWCUQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DERv=glance I know it's a home-use toy, but given the little use I have for it, it seems like it might be good enough. Kind of like buying a Harbor Freight tool? On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Is that the orange one they sell at Lowe's? I bought chainsaw there a coupla months ago, I think it is a Poulan. It has a brake feature that you pull back on the guard to lock the chain so when you start it you won't cut your hand off or something. The second day of cutting up a BIG oak tree that thing broke and locked the chain so it was unusable. Back to Lowes, they gave me a new one which has worked fine. I have an old (like 45yr) Homelite that was a great saw until the fuel pickup quit picking up, I haven't fooled with it though I did find parts are nearly unobtainable. And another one my dad had that refuses to idle but runs fine if you keep it wide open. Kinda hard to use. I tried to adjust that one, 2 cycles mystify me. The orange one seems better so far. --R OK Don wrote: Is the Poulan Pro 18 chain saw a decent tool? On 'sale' locally for $150. It would be for occaisonal use - to supplement the 10 electric trimming saw I currently use, and that I don't think will be up to felling the 16 diameter dead pine tree in the front yard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091015/207e6f0f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws
--R- wrote: And another one my dad had that refuses to idle but runs fine if you keep it wide open. Kinda hard to use. I tried to adjust that one, 2 cycles mystify me. Send it to me - we can make it work. Plus, we might have a better selection of shops that have old stuff for old engines... maybe... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Is that the orange one they sell at Lowe's? I bought chainsaw there a coupla months ago, Orange is a Husqvarna. Take it back, I think they are warranted for a year. Good saw. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com No, it's yellow - Poulan Pro PP4218AVX 18-Inch 42cc 2-Stroke Gas Powered Anti-Vibration Chain Saw http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001SQWCUQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DERv=glance I know it's a home-use toy, but given the little use I have for it, it seems like it might be good enough. Kind of like buying a Harbor Freight tool? Nah, you should get many years of service out of that saw. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good to hear -- On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com No, it's yellow - Poulan Pro PP4218AVX 18-Inch 42cc 2-Stroke Gas Powered Anti-Vibration Chain Saw http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B001SQWCUQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DERv=glance I know it's a home-use toy, but given the little use I have for it, it seems like it might be good enough. Kind of like buying a Harbor Freight tool? Nah, you should get many years of service out of that saw. Rick -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091015/26083201/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
