Re: [newbie] Java(Once More)
First I am glad that more knowledgable people like Michael and Sridhar have come forward to help too. Marcia, I am sorry to learn that Java still isn't working. ¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 13 ¬P´Á¤ 08:04¡AMarcia Waller ¼g¹D: Dear All, My java experience keeps getting worse. Now, when I check for version it says java no such command. you have to run the commands: which java java -version from your home user, not root (why? I don't know). Compare what I get: [root@localhost anguo]# java -version bash: java: command not found [anguo@localhost anguo]$ java -version java version 1.3.0 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.0-FCS) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.0-FCS, mixed mode) I have java jre1.3.1 in /usr/java/jre1.3.1/bin/java. I see it there when I check from console but I cannot get it recognized or plugged in. I went to the installation and running instructions and setup the export path as instructed but nothing is working so far. Should I just uninstall and start over? I see the jre1.3.1 in my /usr file with all of the other files that are supposed to be there. I am totally perplexed. One thing you didn't mention is: did you uninstall your old version of Java as Sridhar suggested? It would help if you could keep a log of everything you're doing so that we (well, they, the more advanced people) have a clue of what's going on. To make sure, did you: 1- uninstall the old java 2- make sure the new is properly installed. (question to my 'linux-elders': how would one make sure that something is properly installed? ) 3- set path according to one or the other method given (which one did you do?) 4- how is you konqueror browser set? (maybe an improper setting may conflict with the java path given. 5- make sure also to keep all the details in your latest email. At most two or three people have been paying attention to this thread since the beginning. This way others may jump in and provide you with the key to solving your problem. You all have offered great suggestions however for some reason nothing has worked. I know this can be resolved somehow. Again I have LM8 which was running the installed jre1.3.1 just fine for awhile then stopped working mysteriously. Are you sure your system was running the jre1.3.1 version and not 1.0.6 Java Version 1.1 you mentionned before? Also, everytime I startup Konqueror I get an error message box that says KDE module error at the top and says cannot find nsplugin.desktop. Does anyone know what this means? your Konqueror seems to be set to use netscape's plugins. Maybe it shouldn't (it doesn't on my box). Let it grab java directly where it is Thanks so much for you help. You're welcome. I am not sure I am helping much, but I'm trying hard to ask the questions that will help others to figure out what the problem really is. Remember that I am a three weeks old linux user. I just happened to have installed java by myself last week. I got some help when I needed some. It's my pleasure to try to provide help too, as and when I can. That's the linux community aspect that I like the most! Anguo
Re: [newbie] Java(Once More) opens in same window.
¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 13 ¬P´Á¤ 13:49¡ASridhar Dhanapalan ¼g¹D: Now when you try a site that has a Java applet, Java should load in a separate window. well, for me the chat java applet that I used (like in the chat rooms from the yahoogroup lists) open imbeded in the same konqueror window, like it used to do on my old box with netscape under windows. (using LM8.0, KDE and Konqueror). ??? Anguo
Re: [newbie] WinGate and Mandrake Linux problem (again, again).
On Friday 13 July 2001 07:47, Brian Durant wrote: Hi again, I still have a problem connecting my daughter's Mandrake Linux machine to the Internet by way of a WinGate proxy server running on a Wintel Legacy Free PC. To recap, I have set the default gateway on the Mandrake machine to 192.168.0.1 which is the address of the WinGate machine. For some reason the DNS is set to 192.168.0.2 Is this correct? Is workgroup.machinename localhost.localdomain in the Win world? If this is all set up correctly, why don't I get a connection to the Internet on the Mandrake machine? Cheers, Brian -- DNS should be set to the DNS your ISP provides [tester@civileme tester]$ su [root@civileme tester]# host -a peterlink.ru. Trying peterlink.ru. ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31758 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;peterlink.ru. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: peterlink.ru. 82075 IN MX 50 relay2.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN MX 30 relay1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.spb.su. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.ussr.eu.net. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns2.peterlink.ru. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.spb.su. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.ussr.eu.net. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns2.peterlink.ru. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: relay1.peterlink.ru.82075 IN A 195.242.2.3 relay2.peterlink.ru.82075 IN A 195.242.2.7 ns.spb.su. 104451 IN A 193.124.83.69 ns.ussr.eu.net. 104451 IN A 193.124.22.65 ns1.peterlink.ru. 82075 IN A 195.242.2.2 ns2.peterlink.ru. 82075 IN A 195.242.2.3 Received 315 bytes from 192.168.1.11#53 in 18 ms [root@civileme tester]# So DNS should be set to 195.242.2.2 and 195.242.2.3 And lets hope wingate knows how to route itself out of a paper bag and doesn't use some proprietary way to do this, so that it connects only windows machines, but instead will connect any machines running tcp/ip to the internet. . Civileme
Re: [newbie] SNF Mandrake 7.2 Opera 5.11
On Friday 13 July 2001 08:28, Patrick Ch. Awart wrote: Hi! Was anyone succesfull in accessing the https NAAT Interface on SNF Mandrake 7.2 with Opera 5.11 (German)? I keep getting a *blank* screen indepenently of my preference --- Connection -- Identify as setings It works finde with IE 5.01, IE5.5 etc Any suggestions? Patrick It also works fine with Galeon, mozilla, Konqueror, Netscape, and some Nautilus. Why Opera does what it does is an open question. Are you running the Windows version or the linux version? Civileme
Re: [newbie] A note about (software manager?) user-friendliness
On Friday 13 July 2001 07:58, Anguo wrote: Hi Civileme, you wrote: If people would take notes of a session they had with software manager, we would be able to see where their intuition leads them (we are spoiled by being close to its design and implementation, so what we do [wihout thinking much about it] is already trained to a certain procedure) and we would be able to make the software more truly intuitive in its user interface. May I ask: are you asking for details of a session specificaly with software manager or for anything related to Mandrake Linux? I understand that you're a paid MandrakeSoft engineer and one of your job is to help out on this list (thank you very much for that!). You also seem to be testing a lot of different hardware. Are you also involved in developing the software manager? I am mostly just curious, but I also would like to know what kind of feedback you were asking for precisely. thanks Anguo Software manager is an example of counter-intuitive software for many users. I am a paid engineer for Quality Assurance at Mandrakesoft. That means I look at tools we develop and try to assure they are user-friendly. When I see a lot of bug reports on a tool that we cannot reproduce here, I judge the software is counter-intuitive and that newbies to the software are doing things we didn't defend against, and don't know how to do ourselves. If we know the steps followed to reproduce a problem, we can get an ides how to: Advise the user in the running software Block the error Redo the interface And no, I am not paid to be on the newbie list--I work at my job about 8-10 hours a day and relax by posting on the newbie list for another 4-6 hours. Civileme ¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 10 ¬P´Á¤G 00:12¡Acivileme ¼g¹D: Mandrake is already rejected by many who like to think of themselves as l33t, but I don't believe we have lost that much of the power of linux. The point is this; we believe that a system can be powerful, flexible, and user-friendly. The power and flexibility are built-in for linux so much of our work is on user-friendliness. We therefore welcome input on it. We don't happen to believe that Microsoft has necessarily found the best solution to any one problem associated with use. (Who would intuit that you press the Start key to shut down?) It is a major force because many people are familiar with it, but the style it provides is not necessarily the best. We may have no better idea what is intuitive and what is not than they do, so that is where the folks here can help us. Think carefully, when confused, and note the steps you take to do things with your computer. We know we're producing a counter-intuitive interface when a lot of folks are reporting errors we cannot reproduce. This happens frequently with software manager right now. If people would take notes of a session they had with software manager, we would be able to see where their intuition leads them (we are spoiled by being close to its design and implementation, so what we do [wihout thinking much about it] is already trained to a certain procedure) and we would be able to make the software more truly intuitive in its user interface. I hope you get the idea. help us help you, by taking a few notes on your steps, either as you make them (preferable) or when something goes wrong. Microsoft would like you to think theirs is intuitive, and Apple would like you to think it is them instead. But the fact is, no one to my knowledge has done the interfaces with lots of user feedback where the users consciously participated and statistics were used routinely to study the data and come up with something that is close to what people want. The next question of course, is does such a solution exist? Or do we have many that will be considered roughly equally intuitive? I know one way to discover that answer. :-) Civileme
Re: [newbie] Chinese support in Mandrake 8.1
On Friday 13 July 2001 08:19, Anguo wrote: Dear Civileme, and whomever on this list who is developing Mandrake, I read this on a local list: -- ¤wÂà±H°T®§ -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When will the CLE for redhat 7.0 come out?Will the CLE for mandrake8.0 be download?(The chinese of mandrake has a lot of bugs) (snip) Mandrake 8.1 will have better support for Chinese. (Thanks for Andrew Lee) I have been using LM8.0 for 2-3 weeks now and I am still far from having configured it the way I would really be able to use it. I am not complaining, just trying to solve the problems one at a time. Anyway, I don't have the choice since I trashed Windows and don't intend to use it ever again. One of the most frustrating aspect of my linux/mandrake experience has been in the setting up of a chinese interface that I can really use (like chinese input not user-friendly, printer won't print chinese... can't use unicode to have chinese/french/german/etc in the same document... I am in the process of reading what document I could find and ask specific questions to a local list but should problems persist, I'll come back to this list for specific help). I am aware that Linux in general has progressed a lot in terms of internationalization and multi-language support (.i18n etc...). Despite my problems and frustration, I am overall impressed and optimistic for the future of both Linux and Mandrake. As to the real point of my mail (at last comming to it!), I wanted to ask you, who are involved in developing Mandrake, whether there will be a noticeable difference between 8.0 and 8.1 as far as multi-language/chinese support is concerned. In other words, will it be then (october?) worthwhile for me to upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1? Yes, Alex showed me a Chinese printout yesterday. Expect more translations as well. The new ghostscript printer drivers make a big difference. Civileme Thanks for what Mandrake has already achieved, and thanks for all your efforts to make it always better. :-D Anguo
[newbie] multi monitor support
Hello Everyone How do u install multi monitor support using ver8.0 Pawel Mrugalski Gateway Internet Services http://www.gateway.net.au PO Box 1368 Bunbury WA 6231 Ph: (08) 9791 5226 Fax: (08) 9791 4029 Linux is the future
Re: [newbie] Making shutdown indiscriminant
couldn't he create a group (say...stopgrp) and put all the people with permission to stop the machine in it and give the group exec. permissions on the reboot or shutdown commands? On Friday 13 July 2001 01:30, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: If you're in a login manager like KDM or GDM, anybody can shutdown by clicking the appropriate button. If you're at the console, you can use sudo or a simple Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot. The Three-Fingered-Salute is safe, since it is equivalent to a shutdown -r now. On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeings how I have a multi-user system (my brothers, mainly) I need to make an easy way for them to shutdown the computer, so they can restart into Windows. I could then put a link to this on the program menu for easy access. So the question here: what would be the best way, keeping security in mind, to allow users other than myself the privaledge of shutdown -r now? Dan
Re: [newbie] LM8.0 Freezes
Civileme, Thanks for your help. I have disabled Aurora and use Xtart to start the X window manager KDE. My question now is, where do I go from here? Will this be a permanent condition, because I would like to access my Linux box using Exceed as well, which it does not seem to allow me anymore? Norman
Re: [newbie] boot trouble
was the box moved while it was off? does it (or can you set the BIOS so that it does) run the memory test at boot (before any hard drives are seen)? counting all the mem? maybe a memeory chip is loose in the socket? maybe lilo is lunched... but you should still let the memory be counted at boot and let us know what number it shows. On Friday 13 July 2001 03:11, Jordan Triebwasser wrote: Here's the situation: I had my mandrake box off for about a week, I go to turn it on yesterday and it boots and just says LIL. I check the web, says it means it can't load the descriptor table from the map file. I have no idea what that means, but it gives some suggestions on how to fix it, like reinstall lilo. So I attempt to boot from a floppy disk, and get an error msg, it says I need 608k for low dos ram to boot, and hold down crtl next time I boot to skip the error msg. I check the bios, and it says I only have 512 free. I then attempt to boot off the cdrom, again same error. I hold down ctrl on the next boot off the cdrom, I figure I'll just reinstall it. But I get an error, something like boot: could not find kernel linux. At the boot prompt I type 'rescue', and get boot: could not find kernel rescue. Mandrake is the only OS on that computer. The only difference when I turned it off a week ago, till now was I plugged it into a kvm. A few days before I shut it down, I installed more simms, bringing the total ram up to 128megs, it worked fine for a couple days, but then I had to shut it off since I was going away. So my questions are, is it LILO that is screwed up, or the fact that I only have 512 free is screwing up LILO. A friend said I could have a virus that is eating up the low ram, or screwed up the MBR, so I ran norton and it found nothing. I have no idea how much low ram I had before, but since I installed mandrake 3 times, and was running for a month, I assume it was more then 608, did 96 or more just rot away? I haven't changed anything in the bios, or done anything with the kernel. I am really at a lose here. Thanks for any help - Jordan
Re: [newbie] Mine is 14 inches! (don't be jealous).
heck I still have a 10 color vga monitor that came as part of my ibm PS1 (286/10Mgz, 30 meg HD, mouse and 9600baud modem, 2.5meg Mem. it was a screamer in 1990). it is not much good compared to the monitors i use now, but that sucker has outlasted about 10 other monitor in the same setup On Friday 13 July 2001 03:25, Anguo wrote: ¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë 13 ¬P´Á¤ 02:38¡AJeferson Lopes Zacco ¼g¹D: And finally, if someone just got that new TFT and is going to dump that clumsy 17 or 19 inch monitor , send it my way. :^) I have to put up with a 15 inch. Lucky you: mine is a 14 inch monitor! Anguo
[newbie]:reiserfs+e2fs mixed system
Hi All My mdk8.0 system is set up using the e2fs file system mainly because i thougth I read somewhere that reiserfs could not read the windows partition/disk. I do have occasional power failures however and the reiserfs sys would be more stable for me to use. If the reisefs file sys can read the windows partition is it possible to set up my sys using the reiserfs file system but keeping /home as e2fs as I do not have adequate means of saving the /home partition and copying it's contents to a new reiserfs /home partition. Thanks Alan Smith (sorry if this is in html. I am using opera in Win and cannot find out what format the email is set in - my own pc is sick at the moment)
[newbie] Pls help me!
To whom it may concern I just want to know something about postgreSQL 1. how to create tables? 2.how to populate tables? 3.where to get resources aside from postgreSQL.com,.org,.net 4.how to see the GUI side of it i really cannot find the GUI of Postgre? Thanks i hope someone answers it. thanks and God Bless! Respectfully AOL
[newbie] Samba problem!
To all my firends Can you pls send me a configuration of SAMBA from installation and configuration cause my notes is missing and I will use it in our office can anyone pls help me I'll be configuring a Linux server to Windows NT and WIN98 workstation pls help me and how can I download the browser for samba. Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist
[newbie] BIND 9.1
I have setup a dns server on Mandrake 8 BIND 9.1 I can do forward lookup but cant get a valid response from dig -x ipaddress The reverse file is being loaded 'says syslog' but get a spurios 'unexpected end of input` with each zone file. Any ideas please
RE: [newbie] Pls help me!
Get a book from the library on the use of SQL - the creation of tables in
postgreSQL is the same as creating a table in any other variant of SQL (as
far as I know, only used a few). In postgreSQL
%createdb mydatabase
PostgreSQL as well as mySQL both come with documentation including how to do
these things (/usr/share/doc/postgresql-vNo or /usr/share/doc/MySQL-vNo).
Population of tables is the same - get the afore-mentioned book from the
library or check through the docs that came with the installation - create
tables in the database then populate them with data.
%CREATE TABLE names (
firstName varchar(10),
lastNamevarchar(15),
etc
);
%INSERT INTO names
VALUES ('Mickey', 'Mouse', etc);
Lastly, I suspect that the fourth query is the key one. There ARE add-on
packages which add a gui to different variants of SQL but unless you have
installed one then you are going to be using command line instructions to
create, populate and manipulate your tables.
Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AOL Systems
Sent: 14 July 2001 05:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Pls help me!
To whom it may concern
I just want to know something about postgreSQL
1. how to create tables?
2.how to populate tables?
3.where to get resources aside from postgreSQL.com,.org,.net
4.how to see the GUI side of it i really cannot find the GUI of Postgre?
Thanks i hope someone answers it.
thanks and God Bless!
Respectfully
AOL
Re: [newbie] Making shutdown indiscriminant
Dan-- So the question here: what would be the best way, keeping security in mind, to allow users other than myself the privaledge of shutdown -r now? One Dan to another... On my home machine (which for the time being is running Caldera eDesktop 2.4--but which will be Mandrake 8.0 before long), I set up sudo access to the shutdown command forall (well, both) real users: both me and my wife. That works, but I'm not certain the security implications. If a remote cracker has accessed either of our accounts, they'll have the password to use in making the sudo command and so could shutdown or reboot the machine remotely. If it was a production server I don't think I'd be real happy about that... sudo is sort of tricky to set up, but I found that if I take my time with the docs, it all came clear. -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
RE: [newbie] Samba problem!
Boy you certainly dive nto the deep end don't you? When you install samba from RPMs, which is what I assume you have done from your earlier posts, you have all the files installed for you in the appropriate places. The configuration file you are referring to is /etc/smb.conf and contains a lot of fairly standard configuration options that can be switched on by removing a semi-colon. It isn't quite as straight forward a package as you seem to be assuming however and I would guess that you have a bit of research and effort to undertake yet. Once again, check in /usr/share/doc/samba-verNo and see what docs have been installed. Frankly I don't see you installing and making samba work in a n/w without going through the docs supplied with the package. Learned though some of the people on this list are - not to mention helpful, they aren't going to wave a magic wand for you. It is possible to answer specific queries as to why something doesn't work but to be honest, IMHO, you're not going to get samba up and running without an effort on your part first. If you are short of docs, or packages then www.samba.org is the place to look. If you have RPMS available on cdrom then you require three RPMs, the server, the common files and the client. If you are going to compile from sources then I believe v 2.1 is the lowest version that will deal properly with NT. As a final comment, you should be able to get a linux server working well with win98 but you will have a more... interesting, task on your hands with WinNT Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AOL Systems Sent: 14 July 2001 05:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Samba problem! To all my firends Can you pls send me a configuration of SAMBA from installation and configuration cause my notes is missing and I will use it in our office can anyone pls help me I'll be configuring a Linux server to Windows NT and WIN98 workstation pls help me and how can I download the browser for samba. Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist
RE: [newbie] Samba problem!
Just look at the /etc/smb.conf file it's got a ton of examples and get your company to go buy you Using Samba (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924495/qid=995029338/sr=2-1/ref= aps_sr_b_1_1/103-6289178-7490252) it is definitely worth the $30. If they don't buy it for you, go buy it for yourself. Other than that post your questions... I assume you have it installed. The first thing after that is to make sure the the 'workgroup' attribute is set to your NT workgroup, by default it's set to MDKGROUP. Then you need to decide if you want to use encrypted passwords or clear-text. What I would suggest is to use encrypted password and create usernames specifcially for the shares you want to allow access to. For example, if you want a marketing share add a user to the server called 'marketing', then use 'smbpasswd -a marketing' it'll prompt you for a password just like the passwd utility does. Then in the /etc/smb.conf uncomment the lines: encrypt passwords = yes smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd Then specify your share: [marketing] path = /shares/marketing public = yes only guest = no writable = yes printable = no valid users = marketing creation mask = 0744 directory mask = 0755 Finally, samba should pick up this new configuration in about 60 seconds. If you don't want to wait you can SIGHUB the smbd process. If you just want to totally restart samba, use the comment '/etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart' When the marketing guy goes to access the share on linux it'll prompt him for a username and password and he can enter the 'marketing' username/password. This will save you from having to send clear-text passwords on your network, and save you from having to add every user to you linux server. Otherwise, get the book and configure samba to use NT authentication, then you don't have to worry about usernames on the linux system since samba will validate agains the PDC. ps: there is no browser for samba, unless I'm misunderstanding what you are wanting. The Windows users simple use their regular file manager application. -Original Message- From: AOL Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Samba problem! To all my firends Can you pls send me a configuration of SAMBA from installation and configuration cause my notes is missing and I will use it in our office can anyone pls help me I'll be configuring a Linux server to Windows NT and WIN98 workstation pls help me and how can I download the browser for samba. Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist
Re: [newbie] .htaccess ?
Ross-- This isn't strictly a Linux question, of course... Which means I have a snowball's chance of having some expertise around it. ;-) VirtualHost 203.14.156.30 ServerName net.bunyip.apana.org.au ServerAlias net net.bunyip.apana.org.au DocumentRoot /home/httpd/net ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/net/cgi-bin/ ErrorLog logs/net_errors.log /VirtualHost Directory /home/httpd/net AllowOverride AuthConfig /Directory This virtual host also has a directory I want private but the server is not repecting the .htaccess file. The contents of the files are the same except for the 'Authname' line (they use the same keyfile). My hunch is that somewhere with bigger scope than this one VirtualHost directive, you have AllowOverride none set. That instructs Apache not to even look for directory-specific configuration files (commonly called .htaccess files after their default filename, but which can be called something else with the AccessFileName directive). AllowOverride is a directive that requires directory context, so you need directory-specific configuration to turn it on--doing it inside the VirtualHost won't work. Now that you have a Directory for this directory, though, it makes more sense to put the contents of your .htaccess file into this directive. Use of per-directory config files has significant performance ramifications. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#allowoverride for more about the AllowOverride . -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com
Re: [newbie] Samba problem!
Hey Mark,...Couldn't he use samba restart also? From a normal prompt ? If he's looking for a Linux browser for samba he could also use xsmbrowser or LinNeighborhood. But if he's trying to browse from Windows, then you're bang on the money about Windows Explorer. He might also want to run webmin on the linux box so that he can manage samba remotely on the network. Just a few things that have paid off time and again for me. Dan LaBine On July 13, 2001 09:15 am, Mark Johnson wrote: Just look at the /etc/smb.conf file it's got a ton of examples and get your company to go buy you Using Samba (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1565924495/qid=995029338/sr=2-1/ref = aps_sr_b_1_1/103-6289178-7490252) it is definitely worth the $30. If they don't buy it for you, go buy it for yourself. Other than that post your questions... I assume you have it installed. The first thing after that is to make sure the the 'workgroup' attribute is set to your NT workgroup, by default it's set to MDKGROUP. Then you need to decide if you want to use encrypted passwords or clear-text. What I would suggest is to use encrypted password and create usernames specifcially for the shares you want to allow access to. For example, if you want a marketing share add a user to the server called 'marketing', then use 'smbpasswd -a marketing' it'll prompt you for a password just like the passwd utility does. Then in the /etc/smb.conf uncomment the lines: encrypt passwords = yes smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd Then specify your share: [marketing] path = /shares/marketing public = yes only guest = no writable = yes printable = no valid users = marketing creation mask = 0744 directory mask = 0755 Finally, samba should pick up this new configuration in about 60 seconds. If you don't want to wait you can SIGHUB the smbd process. If you just want to totally restart samba, use the comment '/etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart' When the marketing guy goes to access the share on linux it'll prompt him for a username and password and he can enter the 'marketing' username/password. This will save you from having to send clear-text passwords on your network, and save you from having to add every user to you linux server. Otherwise, get the book and configure samba to use NT authentication, then you don't have to worry about usernames on the linux system since samba will validate agains the PDC. ps: there is no browser for samba, unless I'm misunderstanding what you are wanting. The Windows users simple use their regular file manager application. -Original Message- From: AOL Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Samba problem! To all my firends Can you pls send me a configuration of SAMBA from installation and configuration cause my notes is missing and I will use it in our office can anyone pls help me I'll be configuring a Linux server to Windows NT and WIN98 workstation pls help me and how can I download the browser for samba. Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist
[newbie] Partition sharing.
I'm getting ready to install Mandrake 8.0, the 3 CD set, and may decide to add other systems later. Can someone tell me which partitions are safe to share between different Linux systems? I understand that /home and swap can be shared safely but are there any others? Also, what size should the partitions be if the systems are for a single user (besides root) who is just learning Linux, no special application except perhaps installing a few utility programs. I have two hard drives and was thinking of putting Mandrake's / on one drive and the special partitions on the other drive. Good idea or not???
Re: [newbie] Making shutdown indiscriminant
Dan, Your best bet is probably going to be to use sudo, and set them up such that shutdown is one of the commands they can run. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 11:26 PM 07/12/2001 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeings how I have a multi-user system (my brothers, mainly) I need to make an easy way for them to shutdown the computer, so they can restart into Windows. I could then put a link to this on the program menu for easy access. So the question here: what would be the best way, keeping security in mind, to allow users other than myself the privaledge of shutdown -r now? Dan
Re: [newbie] Making shutdown indiscriminant
snip If you're at the console, you can use sudo or a simple Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot. The Three-Fingered-Salute is safe, since it is equivalent to a shutdown -r now. snip Sridhar Dan, The use of CTRL + ALT + DEL at a console without logging in depends on what security level you chose during install. I seem to remember that if you select medium security, you can't use the CTRL+ALT+DEL combination unless either root or an authorized user is logged in. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] Java(Once More)
You can make a simple shell script to automate Steps 1 to 3 (Steps 4 to 6 only need to be done once): #!/bin/bash export NPX_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/java/jre1.3.1/plugin/i386/ns4/ exec netscape The export can be added to your .profile, .shellrc file, or window manager rc file instead of creating a script, which makes for less things to remember. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] Pls help me!
On Friday 13 July 2001 22:02, AOL Systems wrote: To whom it may concern I just want to know something about postgreSQL There is HTML documentation in some doc directory after you install Postgres. That is a good place to start. 1. how to create tables? create table table name ( .. It is on the documentation. 2.how to populate tables? insert into table name ... see the documentation. 3.where to get resources aside from postgreSQL.com,.org,.net www.postgresql.org, www.greatbridge.org ... Subscribe to mailing lists and visit the newsgroups. Do google searches. There are books e.g. www.amazon.com. On www.postgresql.org is a complete HTML version of a book out there plus several manuals. 4.how to see the GUI side of it i really cannot find the GUI of Postgre? There is a GUI, but that is a separate install. I have never installed it. I think that it is browser based PHP application. This is not much, but it might help you get started. BTW, Postgres is a very powerfull RDBMS. You need to learn it well before you can exploit its many features, but it is well worth it. Eric Indiogine PNM
Re: [newbie] WinGate and Mandrake Linux problem (again, again).
this might be a better question to ask on the WinGate support list. as iu remember (and remember is key here, I have not used wingate in a couple of years) wingate, it requires a valid hosts file in the c:/ folder. can you post the contents of that file? can we ask why you want a winders machine as the connection to the net and not the Mandrake machine. It is my understanding that (due to it being basically a single user OS) winders ain't likely to be as secure to the world as the Linux (being a network OS) box. You may also find the Linux box much easier to use as the gateway box On Friday 13 July 2001 03:47, Brian Durant wrote: Hi again, I still have a problem connecting my daughter's Mandrake Linux machine to the Internet by way of a WinGate proxy server running on a Wintel Legacy Free PC. To recap, I have set the default gateway on the Mandrake machine to 192.168.0.1 which is the address of the WinGate machine. For some reason the DNS is set to 192.168.0.2 Is this correct? Is workgroup.machinename localhost.localdomain in the Win world? If this is all set up correctly, why don't I get a connection to the Internet on the Mandrake machine? Cheers, Brian --
[newbie] Via Voice
I have tried (without success) to get it running. I am unable to complete the first part of setup-the voice level sampling part. I suspect my soundcard is not up to it (Opti mad 16 - a cheap ISA card), it does appear to be configured by sndconfig, it plays voice and midi samples and will play music CDs but it does not appear to accept microphone input. Also at boot time I get the following messages localhost modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/mad16.o.gz: localhost modprobe: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters localhost modprobe: init_module: No such device localhost modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/mad16.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/mad16.o.gz failed localhost modprobe: /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/mad16.o.gz: insmod mad16 failed localhost sound: Loading sound module (mad16) failed Any suggestions either about configuring the card or replacing it with one known to work properly ? Or maybe the US version doesn't like my English accent - Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it)
RE: [newbie] boot trouble
Title: RE: [newbie] boot trouble I see a similarity in a problem I had a while back. New ram installed, windows is tolerant of bad ram, linux is not. try swapping your ram sticks around, better yet run a memory check, there are several on line for free. But swapping memory sticks will tell you if one is bad, especially in the # one slot. If you have a bad stick Linux will give you a fit. What I found out is , that the mem test on boot will show the correct amount of mem but that doesn't mean it is good. Hope this helps as a place to start looking. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jordan Triebwasser Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:11 AM To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] boot trouble Here's the situation: I had my mandrake box off for about a week, I go to turn it on yesterday and it boots and just says LIL. I check the web, says it means it can't load the descriptor table from the map file. I have no idea what that means, but it gives some suggestions on how to fix it, like reinstall lilo. So I attempt to boot from a floppy disk, and get an error msg, it says I need 608k for low dos ram to boot, and hold down crtl next time I boot to skip the error msg. I check the bios, and it says I only have 512 free. I then attempt to boot off the cdrom, again same error. I hold down ctrl on the next boot off the cdrom, I figure I'll just reinstall it. But I get an error, something like boot: could not find kernel linux. At the boot prompt I type 'rescue', and get boot: could not find kernel rescue. Mandrake is the only OS on that computer. The only difference when I turned it off a week ago, till now was I plugged it into a kvm. A few days before I shut it down, I installed more simms, bringing the total ram up to 128megs, it worked fine for a couple days, but then I had to shut it off since I was going away. So my questions are, is it LILO that is screwed up, or the fact that I only have 512 free is screwing up LILO. A friend said I could have a virus that is eating up the low ram, or screwed up the MBR, so I ran norton and it found nothing. I have no idea how much low ram I had before, but since I installed mandrake 3 times, and was running for a month, I assume it was more then 608, did 96 or more just rot away? I haven't changed anything in the bios, or done anything with the kernel. I am really at a lose here. Thanks for any help - Jordan
[newbie] Compiling while using Reiser FS in LM8
Hi everybody, Will using the Reiser FS affect the way I configure, make and make install? In other words should I stick with the ext2 FS? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
[newbie] Selecting a version of X on install
I know on the cd's their are two version's of X on the CD. Version 3.something and Version 4.something. I wanted to install version 4.something. I am sitting here at the package selection screen on install and can't seem to find the Xfree86 packages. Any idea what catagories they are under???
Re: [newbie] Knotify error
On Thursday 12 July 2001 09:43 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote: 2)I have seen if in KDE control panel for sound, sound server, option of start arts server on kde startup enabled gives this this knotify error. 3) where is the System Notifications. UNchecking (disabling) the aRts server effectively disables System Notifications. You'll find the complete System Notifications setup under Control Center | Look'n Feel. Still, I have to tell'ya that disabling aRts is only avoiding the real problem. Something is hosed with your installation and/or configuration. Since I only had the knotify problem quite a while ago with forced beta upgrades to early KDE2, I really don't know, or remember anyhow, what needs to be fixed. I disable system sounds anyhow as a matter of preference. You might try renaming your /home/user/.kde dir (eg, .old-kde), and restarting. When KDE runs again it'll generate a new /.kde with all it's configs. You'll lose all your personal changes, but it might fix your knotify problem. Otherwise the problem is most likely much deeper. I'd should point out again that when you get a lib like knotify.so going wild (next best example is probly Nutscrape setting off ld.linux), it really churns your cpu/cache/ram. This can overheat a marginal or inadequately cooled system (include overclocked) to the point of causing possible damage. So it behooves you to find and correct the underlying problem with knotify.so. Disabling aRts, or renaming knotify.so is only a temporary kludge. Situations like this are also a good example of why, if your motherboard supports it, everybody should enable lm_sensors and an appropriate FE for it to display cpu temp. I use Gkrellm. Often the first warning you'll get that a process or app has gone wild is a rise to the max in cpu temp. 'Course weaker systems will just freeze or randomly reboot if a wild process is left unattended to. If monitoring isn't feasible, the next best thing is to run 'top' with the Shift+P option to display which proccesses are using the most % of cpu. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay On July 12, 2001 08:04 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 11 July 2001 09:01 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote: 1)The system has so far only what came with mdk 8.0 kde except for adding a line in /etc/modules.conf for my TV tuner card, of course for getting sound. Otherwise sound doesn't work for my TV tuner card. 2)Yes. Sound problem is there. When I first time logged in I got the login sound just before logo was to disappear. Now that doesn't happen. Even after the above modification, for another new user also, login sound came during first login and then system sound doesn't work. Can anything made out of it? If so what should I do? That 'login' sound is one of the 'System Notifications', so if you disabled 'System Notifications' it should'a silenced it. The same is true if you renamed 'knotify.so'. Both are just fixes for the knotify error you cited. You also probly had knotify.so running wild when it errored, slowing your system and overheating your cpu/cache/ram and motherboard chipset. So it's very important to stop and avoid that behavior. BUT this isn't a cure, just a quick and dirty work-around till you find the real problem. Which could be that TV card and the module(s) you introduced to get it workin. 'Specially if the TV card/ modules were binary only (ie, closed source) from a vendor.
[newbie] What are your impressions of Reisor FS
Hi all, Would most of you say that you would recommend Reiser FS and why? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey
RE: [newbie] Pls help me!
However further down my reply I included a few more instructions ;o) Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates 07710 908817 -Original Message- From: Michael D. Viron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 July 2001 15:56 To: Daryl Johnson; AOL Systems Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Pls help me! At 02:00 PM 07/13/2001 +0100, Daryl Johnson wrote: Get a book from the library on the use of SQL - the creation of tables in postgreSQL is the same as creating a table in any other variant of SQL (as far as I know, only used a few). In postgreSQL %createdb mydatabase Actually, that creates a database, not a table. If I remember correctly from my database systems class, it goes (using -- to indicate part of) row--table--database -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Re: [newbie] Selecting a version of X on install
Kevin Fonner wrote: I know on the cd's their are two version's of X on the CD. Version 3.something and Version 4.something. I wanted to install version 4.something. I am sitting here at the package selection screen on install and can't seem to find the Xfree86 packages. Any idea what catagories they are under??? No, but under Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0, you don't make that selection at this stage. (Maybe you can, but you don't have to.) Instead, select the other packages that you are interested in, load those, and later you will come to the X configuration part of the install, at which point, after you make your selection, the proper Xfree86 package will be installed. Aside: You don't always get a choice, IIRC, and I'm not sure exactly what determines whether you get a choice. Presumably, the installation package decides based on whether there are drivers to support your video card or not. Hope this helps, Randy Kramer
Re: [newbie] WinGate and Mandrake Linux problem (again, again).
Hi guys Firstly thanks for your patience when you receive basically a non Linux question. However there are a few points to consider. Please don't take this as an invitation to start a flame war, just an honest personal opinion. Quite a few people on the Newbie list are ex Windows users trying hard to escape the M$ confines. Mandrake 8 is pretty well easy to set up as a workstation however the problem arises when I try and understand how to set my Mandrake box up as an internet gateway. I have tried to locate the necessary documentation, however can only find literature relating to other distributions which doesn't help much. Don't get me wrong here about supporting M$ supported software but the lurning curve is a lot steeper when there is no one at the office who uses Linux. Unfortunately the newbie list is the first place to turn. On the bright side I have downloaded the new KOffice and can now happily open my old Word and Excel stuff, and saved them back onto my Linux machine in a format Koffice is happy with. I use KMail exclusively and in fact the last time I looked at the M$ machine was to sort my wifes mail account out. I have no further use for the Windows environment. Pardon me for digressing but my point is that unless one receives a few pointers it is damn difficult to set up the Linux side as proxy, gateway, mail server etc. without a little help from the list. Kind regards -- Mark Annandale Mandrake 8 Sent with KMail
Re: [newbie]:reiserfs+e2fs mixed system
On Friday 13 July 2001 13:32, Alan Smith wrote: Hi All My mdk8.0 system is set up using the e2fs file system mainly because i thougth I read somewhere that reiserfs could not read the windows partition/disk. I do have occasional power failures however and the reiserfs sys would be more stable for me to use. No, it's windows that can't read reiserfs partitions (or ext2 for that matter). But reiserfs doesn't have to read windows partitions - there is a fat32 driver to do that. IIUTC, anyway. If the reisefs file sys can read the windows partition is it possible to set up my sys using the reiserfs file system but keeping /home as e2fs as I do not have adequate means of saving the /home partition and copying it's contents to a new reiserfs /home partition. FWIW: I set mine up the other way round, with /home on reiserfs since that is where a lot of writing and deleting takes place, /tmp on a separate little ext2 partition and everyting else in / on ext2 as well. I'm not sure if this has been fixed yet, but a while back the word on the street was that at least /boot should NOT be reiserfs. I backup my data from both ext and reiserfs quite easily to a FAT32 partition on another disk, so I think perhaps your fears are unfounded. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Note: This is my understanding. It has been known to happen that my understanding does not mesh with reality. I gladly accept corrections.
Re: [newbie] Mine is 14 inches! (don't be jealous).
I have to put up with a 15 inch. Lucky you: mine is a 14 inch monitor! It's what you do with it that counts ... -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Note: This is my understanding. It has been known to happen that my understanding does not mesh with reality. I gladly accept corrections.
Re: [newbie] What are your impressions of Reisor FS
On Friday 13 July 2001 19:00, Romanator wrote: Hi all, Would most of you say that you would recommend Reiser FS and why? What can I say? At user level it is pretty much invisible (which is as it should be) - I haven't seen any error messages like ReiserFS has crashed and will now destroy your disk vbg Those who get a kick out of testing such things say it is faster and more reliable than ext2 - I'm prepared to take their word for it. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Note: This is my understanding. It has been known to happen that my understanding does not mesh with reality. I gladly accept corrections.
Re: [newbie] Java(Once More)
The export can be added to your .profile, .shellrc file, or window manager rc file instead of creating a script, which makes for less things to remember. Michael Michael, I am quite the newbie in this area. Could you explain exactly how I would do this? Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Marcia, All that you need to do is open your favorite editor, go to your ~user directory, open the file for the shell you are using (for example, if you are using csh, the file to add the export line to would be .cshrc; if you use zsh, edit .zshrc; if you use bash, edit .profile), and then add the export line in its entirety to the file. To find out which shell you are using, type in cat /etc/passwd | grep username from the command line without the quotes and where username is your username. Or, you can check by going to your favorite GUI-based configuration manager, go to the user add / edit / delete section, and lookup the information that way. Anyways, after you're done with the changes, save the file, exit and log back in, and you should be all set to go.
Re: [newbie]:reiserfs+e2fs mixed system
I'm thinking that they've got the Reiser FS working just fine. I installed Mandrake8.0 on my laptop as a single partition / and it's RFS - I've let my batter die and I've forced an improper reboot and it's never failed me. I also installed my home desktop with 5 partitions: /boot, /, /var, /tmp, and /home - all Reiser and it's never failed me even though I abuse it as well. As far as incompatibilities, if Linux supports the format then it will work. It doesn't matter if you are mixing formats - linux will load the proper driver for the proper file system. Windows cannot natively read Reiser, ext2, or even nfs for that matter. Michel Clasquin wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 13:32, Alan Smith wrote: Hi All My mdk8.0 system is set up using the e2fs file system mainly because i thougth I read somewhere that reiserfs could not read the windows partition/disk. I do have occasional power failures however and the reiserfs sys would be more stable for me to use. No, it's windows that can't read reiserfs partitions (or ext2 for that matter). But reiserfs doesn't have to read windows partitions - there is a fat32 driver to do that. IIUTC, anyway. If the reisefs file sys can read the windows partition is it possible to set up my sys using the reiserfs file system but keeping /home as e2fs as I do not have adequate means of saving the /home partition and copying it's contents to a new reiserfs /home partition. FWIW: I set mine up the other way round, with /home on reiserfs since that is where a lot of writing and deleting takes place, /tmp on a separate little ext2 partition and everyting else in / on ext2 as well. I'm not sure if this has been fixed yet, but a while back the word on the street was that at least /boot should NOT be reiserfs. I backup my data from both ext and reiserfs quite easily to a FAT32 partition on another disk, so I think perhaps your fears are unfounded. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Note: This is my understanding. It has been known to happen that my understanding does not mesh with reality. I gladly accept corrections.
[newbie] Installing vmware2.04 in LM8
Dear All, I had vmware 2.03 installed, working and running Windows 95 just fine in LM7.2. After I did the LM8 installation, I cannot get vmware to come up using the terminal and vmware command. I know the vmware installation is still there because I found the file. What can I do to get this going again? Thanks. Also, I just downloaded the vmware 2.04 and probably would like to upgrade to this version. I just want to make sure the upgrade will work well and I do not know if it will if I cannot get my old vmware going. Should I just install the 2.04 and it will automatically (like the directions say) will find my older installation and go from there? I hope that this goes smoothly so I do not want to charge into this without some good pointers. Thanks alot. Sincerely, Marcia
[newbie] RE: [expert] INETD hangs fix
It's far more likely then that what is hanging is something immediately AFTER the INETD starts. Before I begin though, was the system working properly before? Is this a new installation? If so remember that Linux wants to find a DNS server when it first comes up. In a new install there normally is one, so it will sit and sit, and sit waiting for a response before it gives up and finally boots. This may be what is happening and you have merely failed to wait long enough (up to 10 minutes or more!). --- Anyway... You might want to perform an Interactive startup (press the I key, in caps IMMEDIATELY when you see the prompt about interactive startup). You will then get an opportunity to step thru each of the startup services/daemons. Do this until the system hangs up. Make a note of exactly where this happened. Then restart it yet again and do the same thing. As you get to the errant service start saying No to each of the services until you get beyond the point it hung up before, then let it complete the startup. Now go into /etc/rc3.d and look for SxxSERVICE These are the services that are started at boot. The numeric value xx is the order of startup. (SERVICE is the name of the service) Look for INETD and ones after it in numeric order. Then try: service SxxSERVICE start If you get back an OK or failed, then this service is not the cause of the hang, so move on. Once you find the one that is causing the hangup, reboot again as before and delete the /etc/rc3.d/SxxSERVICE file to eliminate the hang. -JMS -Original Message- From: Turgut Kalfaoglu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:34 PM To: Jose M. Sanchez Subject: RE: [expert] INETD hangs Yep, it's an 7.2 machine.. -t - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr All of Turkey Online: http://find.egenet.com.tr
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
On Friday 13 July 2001 12:18 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:32, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2001 04:43 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Many people buy a little too much into the GNU/Linux hype, and become disappointed when it isn't the same as Windows. Seems like a contradictory statement to me Sridhar ? I believe many Lusers aren't payin _enough_ _attention_ to the GNU/Linux hype. Particularly the difference between open and closed source software and hardware. Specially those just tryin Linux, but even some more experienced users, don't know, care, or understand that closed source software and hardware can't and never can be supported for Linux and why. That's it's often disappointing and even dangerous to try to. [disappointed] ...but it works great with Window$ http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=427lang=en ...we have the problem of secret software in general. Allow me to clarify my statement. Granted, I'm glad you did ;) People can read about GNU/Linux all over the place nowadays. Much of this stuff stresses how user-friendly it is in combination with desktops like GNOME and KDE, and so people are enticed to try it out. As I have mentioned in earlier posts, people's definitions on user-friendly and intuitive can vary greatly, and many Windows users define user-friendliness as being like Windows. While GNOME and KDE *are* user-friendly environments, they are *not* Windows. This seems to disappoint a lot of newcomers, and so they complain that this isn't Windows. On the other hand, there are many people out there who could benefit greatly from GNU/Linux, yet do not try it out. The Microsoft monopoly has conditioned them into thinking that Windows is the only viable desktop OS, and that constant crashes, virii and security breaches are normal. To them, GNU/Linux is difficult to comprehend, with its endless array of distributions and its command-line access. Windows looks easy, since it is designed to be entirely graphical (and hence limiting in terms of functionality). Conversely, GNU/Linux looks like it has too many commands to keep track of. While the reality is that almost everything in GNU/Linux can be done graphically, people are led to believe that they need to memorise hundreds of console commands. The MandrakeForum article you linked to was very interesting, and it serves to reinforce my belief that binary-only drivers are bad. Unfortunately, for several types of hardware people do not have much of a choice. This is particularly evident in graphics hardware. Most video cards nowadays employ a Nvidia or ATI chipset, which require binary-only drivers to work. These two companies basically *own* the consumer 3D acceleration market, so anyone wishing to have decent 3D performance must buy one of these chipsets. As much as I hate binary-only drivers, I am increasingly thinking about purchasing Nvidia graphics hardware for my next PC. Things were much better when Matrox and 3Dfx were kings (I currently have a Millennium II and a Voodoo2). These companies worked closely with the XFree86 group to produce quality open-source drivers. But alas, those golden days are now over :-( Couldn't agree more with ya Sridhar. BUT you did leave the door open for me to once again rant about closed source ;) AND it's much more than just drivers, it's binary only applications many Lusers introduce into their system, and then blame Linux and/or Mandrake when the results are less than satisfactory. I believe this is a major point of ignorance with many Lusers. It often is also the major point of their dissatifaction, and they don't realize it's their own fault. Like you, I'm also on the crux of gettin a GeForce. BUT, at least I know that any problems, including loss of security, arising from that decision, are user, then hardware, but not at all Mandrake GNU/Linux. The only thing saving me is my Voodoo3 is still proving to be adequate. specially if I could figure out how to overclock it in Linux without having to rewrite the open source drivers. Winbloes just needs a registry hack to do it to their secret driver ; -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] gkrellm on top ?
On Thursday 12 July 2001 08:00 pm, Joan Tur wrote: I'm using KDE MDK8. I'd like gkrellm to stay on top of the other opened windows and not to appear in taskbar. Is that possible ? 8-? Well... I dunno ;) I created this text file, named it 'sensor-start' and then 'chmod +x'd it and put it in my user .kde/Autostart/ dir #!/bin/bash sleep 2s /usr/bin/kstart --ontop --alldesktops --skiptaskbar /usr/X11R6/bin/gkrellm (the last two lines above are all on one line. There's no man entry for kstart, but 'kstart --help' provides the options. The sleep 2 seconds is to give KDE plenty of time to finish loading, probly not necessary. I'd give credit to somebody for this, but I don't remember where I got it.) ... and it does auto start Gkrellm always on top, on all desktops. BUT it doesn't skip placing the app notification on the taskbar (panel). Dunno why? Probly somethin dumb and simple I'm missing. BTW, I configured Gkrellm to only show cpu temp, minimum height (2p), and 75p wide, and remember window position. Just fits on the top Window title bar near the buttons (1024x768). I also edited /etc/X11/fs/config , 'default-point-size = 130' (was 120) so that Gkrellm's and other apps fonts are bigger for my poor old eyes. Another mystery tho is that it still insists on showing my ppp load when I'm connected (?) Bothered me at first, but now I sort'a kind'a like that ; OC'd to 1.5+ gig Tbird is 42°C under moderate load as I type :) It's where I get most of my hot air ;~ -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] What are your impressions of Reisor FS
On July 13, 2001 02:44 pm, Terry A. Bowling wrote: Romanator wrote: Hi all, Would most of you say that you would recommend Reiser FS and why? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey I'm thinking that they've got the Reiser FS working just fine. I installed Mandrake8.0 on my laptop as a single partition / and it's RFS - I've let my battery die and I've forced an improper reboot and it's never failed me. I also installed my home desktop with 5 partitions: /boot, /, /var, /tmp, and /home - all Reiser and it's never failed me even though I abuse it as well. As far as incompatibilities, if Linux supports the format then it will work. It doesn't matter if you are mixing formats - linux will load the proper driver for the proper file system. Windows cannot natively read Reiser, ext2, or even nfs for that matter. Reiser is just a transparent file system that does a good job. As far as affecting how you read, write, compile or blow your nose, it is no different than any other file system. It will work just as well (or better) than ext2, nfs, or fat32, or anything else. Hi Terry, Sounds good. I'm just in the middle of reinstalling using the Reiser FS. Thanks for responding, Roman
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer8 Galeon
On July 13, 2001 06:02 pm, Joan Tur wrote: Hallo! It works fine under Galeon -0.11.1-1mdk using Romanator's advices but without the %s... Just for you to know ;) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: quinir Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Hello, Remember, the %s is the switch for enabling the streaming audio and video. I fairly that it applies to Netscape only. Roman
Re: [newbie] boot trouble
RE: [newbie] boot troubleThanks.. It did count up the correct number on boot, and when I ran the mem test it said errors in bank 0. I swapped bank 0 and 1 and it works now. So does this mean that even though it says I have 128 megs, it's not using all of it? - Original Message - From: Myers, Dennis R NWO To: 'Jordan Triebwasser' ; 'Newbie Linux-Mandrake' Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] boot trouble I see a similarity in a problem I had a while back. New ram installed, windows is tolerant of bad ram, linux is not. try swapping your ram sticks around, better yet run a memory check, there are several on line for free. But swapping memory sticks will tell you if one is bad, especially in the # one slot. If you have a bad stick Linux will give you a fit. What I found out is , that the mem test on boot will show the correct amount of mem but that doesn't mean it is good. Hope this helps as a place to start looking. Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jordan Triebwasser Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:11 AM To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] boot trouble Here's the situation: I had my mandrake box off for about a week, I go to turn it on yesterday and it boots and just says LIL. I check the web, says it means it can't load the descriptor table from the map file. I have no idea what that means, but it gives some suggestions on how to fix it, like reinstall lilo. So I attempt to boot from a floppy disk, and get an error msg, it says I need 608k for low dos ram to boot, and hold down crtl next time I boot to skip the error msg. I check the bios, and it says I only have 512 free. I then attempt to boot off the cdrom, again same error. I hold down ctrl on the next boot off the cdrom, I figure I'll just reinstall it. But I get an error, something like boot: could not find kernel linux. At the boot prompt I type 'rescue', and get boot: could not find kernel rescue. Mandrake is the only OS on that computer. The only difference when I turned it off a week ago, till now was I plugged it into a kvm. A few days before I shut it down, I installed more simms, bringing the total ram up to 128megs, it worked fine for a couple days, but then I had to shut it off since I was going away. So my questions are, is it LILO that is screwed up, or the fact that I only have 512 free is screwing up LILO. A friend said I could have a virus that is eating up the low ram, or screwed up the MBR, so I ran norton and it found nothing. I have no idea how much low ram I had before, but since I installed mandrake 3 times, and was running for a month, I assume it was more then 608, did 96 or more just rot away? I haven't changed anything in the bios, or done anything with the kernel. I am really at a lose here. Thanks for any help - Jordan
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[newbie] Thanks Radeon now works
Thank you to all those who have made suggestions on how to get my display going. It is working fine now thanks to Navin Daryanani. It does go to show that informal support does work but you have to keep asking if one solution doesn't work. On the way I have learned alot from the mailing list. Keep up the good work. Cliff Gosden
[newbie] No system sounds.
I can't seem to get system sounds to work now...they used to work. I see the following messages in the system log...What do they mean and how do I fix them? Jul 13 14:42:58 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Geof
Re: [newbie] .htaccess ?
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Dan Ray wrote: VirtualHost 203.14.156.30 ServerName net.bunyip.apana.org.au ServerAlias net net.bunyip.apana.org.au DocumentRoot /home/httpd/net ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/net/cgi-bin/ ErrorLog logs/net_errors.log /VirtualHost Directory /home/httpd/net AllowOverride AuthConfig /Directory This virtual host also has a directory I want private but the server is not repecting the .htaccess file. The contents of the files are the same except for the 'Authname' line (they use the same keyfile). My hunch is that somewhere with bigger scope than this one VirtualHost directive, you have AllowOverride none set. That instructs Apache not to You were spot on, thank you.. I had the default: Directory / AllowOverride AuthConfig /Directory But I forgot that with the virtualhost I was creating a second root directory... -Ross -- http://bunyip.apana.org.au [ICQ No.9391313] Idleness is the holiday of fools.
Fwd: Re: [newbie] WinGate and Mandrake Linux problem (again, again).
did it again, should have been to the list -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] WinGate and Mandrake Linux problem (again, again). Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:06:47 -0400 From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday 13 July 2001 07:09, you wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 07:47, Brian Durant wrote: Hi again, I still have a problem connecting my daughter's Mandrake Linux machine to the Internet by way of a WinGate proxy server running on a Wintel Legacy Free PC. To recap, I have set the default gateway on the Mandrake machine to 192.168.0.1 which is the address of the WinGate machine. For some reason the DNS is set to 192.168.0.2 Is this correct? Is workgroup.machinename localhost.localdomain in the Win world? If this is all set up correctly, why don't I get a connection to the Internet on the Mandrake machine? Cheers, Brian -- DNS should be set to the DNS your ISP provides [tester@civileme tester]$ su [root@civileme tester]# host -a peterlink.ru. Trying peterlink.ru. ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31758 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;peterlink.ru. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: peterlink.ru. 82075 IN MX 50 relay2.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN MX 30 relay1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.spb.su. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.ussr.eu.net. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns2.peterlink.ru. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.spb.su. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns.ussr.eu.net. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns1.peterlink.ru. peterlink.ru. 82075 IN NS ns2.peterlink.ru. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: relay1.peterlink.ru.82075 IN A 195.242.2.3 relay2.peterlink.ru.82075 IN A 195.242.2.7 ns.spb.su. 104451 IN A 193.124.83.69 ns.ussr.eu.net. 104451 IN A 193.124.22.65 ns1.peterlink.ru. 82075 IN A 195.242.2.2 ns2.peterlink.ru. 82075 IN A 195.242.2.3 Received 315 bytes from 192.168.1.11#53 in 18 ms [root@civileme tester]# So DNS should be set to 195.242.2.2 and 195.242.2.3 And lets hope wingate knows how to route itself out of a paper bag and doesn't use some proprietary way to do this, so that it connects only windows machines, but instead will connect any machines running tcp/ip to the internet. . Civileme Dang, I was to slow, but my experience has been with Wingate that it can connect a linux box, so it should be no problem, YMMV. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 --- -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] No system sounds.
have we ran (as root, in a text console) sndconfig? did it work? On Friday 13 July 2001 18:48, Geof Steichen wrote: I can't seem to get system sounds to work now...they used to work. I see the following messages in the system log...What do they mean and how do I fix them? Jul 13 14:42:58 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Geof
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
John, Etharp, et al., Seriously, though, my foundation just finished a special study last month in which I discovered that _millions_ of threads are simply abandoned every single year, and that this has been a growing trend for many years! It's really not a laughing matter. Many of these threads don't deserve the apathy and neglect that come from us who just don't feel like contributing anymore. Who are we to vilify these threads? Are we not responsible for them?! The whole situation is simple unbelievable. Threads don't deserve that kind of treatment you people are suggesting here. Most of the time it's not their fault that they turned out that way. If you study them closely, you find that these threads really had no choice to turn out the way they did. Most of them had a very decent beginning. They were bright, full of ideas and humor; they expressed an ever-so-humble curiosity; and they made us question the way _we_ do things-to take another look at our lives to make sure we were doing things the best. They enriched us. But we live such fast-paced lives today, that it's too easy to introduce turmoil into these threads. We move so fast; regrettable things are said; nobody teaches them moderation. They get out of control! So who do we blame? If we're honest... we blame ourselves. So please, put away your weapons, your threats, and change your heart. Don't take out your frustrations with the murder or abandonment of threads. It's time to take a stand. To be counted. To speak up and proclaim, No!! I won't tolerate this anymore. I'm going to improve the life of threads, and I'm starting with ME! Miark P.S. To contribute to the continued research and care of threads, please give what you can by making a non-tax deductible donation via PayPal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] And thank you for your kind support. - Original Message - From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John W [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft NO NO Reay this thread, and all threads deserve to live full and sometime productive lives no don't pull out that gunno please don't shoot this thread.. no realy dont shoot me... PLEAS BANG BANG BANG On Friday 13 July 2001 17:14, John W wrote: At 08:56 AM 7/13/01 -0500, Jeanette Russo wrote: How many people would like to see this thread taken off list it is OT. - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft I hate threads like this. Makes you stop and think about why you use these mailing lists!!! John W I would like to see it go.
Re: [newbie] No system sounds.
Yes, sndconfig finds the card and plays a message although it is very low volume. The system log shows it finds the card just fine also. It plays the cd ok, but still no system sounds. I re-booted and checked the system log again. The messages are still there. They occur when I login as a user (geoffs in this case). See below: Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot kde(pam_unix)[1205]: session opened for user geoffs by (uid=0) Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Geof * On Friday 13 July 2001 04:04 pm, you wrote: have we ran (as root, in a text console) sndconfig? did it work? On Friday 13 July 2001 18:48, Geof Steichen wrote: I can't seem to get system sounds to work now...they used to work. I see the following messages in the system log...What do they mean and how do I fix them? Jul 13 14:42:58 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Geof
Re: [newbie] Re: Some more mobos??
On Friday 13 July 2001 11:02 am, Terry Smith wrote: A few weeks ago there was some discussion about mobos, specifically motherboard/chipset combinations that worked well or not well with linux. http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/01/06/06/1821202.shtml The Soyo was a definite winner here with great support, awesome performance, and rock-solid stability. It receives our LinuxHardware.org Top Honors Award and our Works with Linux Certification. I got one (kt7vta pro), and have an oc'd Tbird 1.4 to 1.53g on it (currently 11.5x135). I'd echo the above recommendation based on this board, and prior Soyo experience. I went with Soyo 'cause: *that's the manufacturer I previously used for a oc'd P3-450@600 I had (6ba+III, Aopen case, Sparkle 230W PS)-- very impressed with Soyo quality, features, and stability, **strong Linux recommends from both Linuxhardware and Duke of URL, and many Windoze hardware sites too for much the same reasons, and ***it's the only kt133a board still on AMD's recommended list (which I suspect is for VIA-IDE reasons, ie, better pcb and trace design), other than a Biostar (which doesn't have an ISA slot). The Soyo is also oc'ing friendly, and even if you're adverse to that, it means the board has extra features, quality, versatility, and stability built in that you may need or want even if you don't overclock. Soyo also has one of the lowest RMA rates in the industry and for this reason is favored by many OEM reseller's. Mine has no flaws, is absolutely bulletproof. I'm using it with old (one's damn near ancient ;) ram. 1 real old stick of 8ns 128 mb sdram (pc100) and 1 stick of newer 7.5ns (pc133) currently running together at 135 mhz cas2. The motherboard is as much, if not more important than the actual ram used, for performance and stability. Ram is what it'll do, regardless of it's marketing label, and the motherboard is crucial to this. This same ram (the pc100) wouldn't run reliably (ie, -0- errors under stress test) a few years ago on an Aopen mobo at 133mhz cas3. Soyo just provides better dimm and IO voltage support, even tho Aopen's are generally recognized as very high quality boards. This kind of extra support is also important, and needed for many newer high bandwidth AGP and PCI devices also. I'm still on my quest to build or buy a new linux box and have come across a company 'Indiana Computer Factory' (www.icfcomputer.com) selling 'bares bones' boxes and complete systems. I would not recommend a bare bones solution. It only takes a few minutes to install the parts that they will, and you have much more control of buying quality parts than most all barebones vendors will provide. Particularly case/power supply/mobo. Specially with recent hardware, don't take chances on an off motherboard or case/power supply. The motherboard will govern the results of any hardware and peripheals attached to it. It's the very foundation of any system. A clean power supply is nearly as important. Neither mobo's you cited is recommended by AMD, or for Linux, or warranted by my months of research. My first pick started out to be the Abit Kt7a, mainly because it has no integrated sound, oc'ing friendly, an ISA slot, and excellent online info and support. I went with the Soyo inspite of integrated AC97 sound. Which works well, but from my estimation, also is a drain on the cpu/cache/ram subsystem, as any integrated or #!!$%^! win-hardware is. The saving grace is that it has an ISA slot to use my old SB AWE64 and the onboard AC97 is easily disabled. I tried this, but I'm back to using the onboard sound, so I can have the ISA slot for my trusty old Texas Instruments modem (even tho I promised myself I'd never use any of Uncle Billy Goat's M$ inspired onboard anything). I gave $95 for the Soyo, and despite being the best Tbird/Duron board (IMO, et al), it's also one of the least expensive platforms for an AMD proccessor. You can find an Enlight, Aopen, or Inwin case with a Sparkle (AMD apprv'd) 300W power supply for ~ 55 to $60. I used an Inwin full tower with some special features, and a 340W Sparkle (Power Man label) for $78 locally in Houston. Shipping was the factor to buy the case (heavy) locally here, rather than online. I bought the mobo, 1.4g Tbird w/hs-f bundle online from Mwave for $305 ( $95+210, who I heartily recommend from doin much business with them for several years). IIRC, the 1.2 Tbird would'a been $80 less at $225 for the mobo/hs-f/cpu bundle. You can pay $9 extra to have it sent assembled/ tested, but I didn't. 3 day delivery to my door was $15, no sales tax. If you need ram, it's almost to the point that they'll pay you to take it off their hands ; I also very much appreciated that the Inwin case HDD LED, PWR, Reset, etc., cable labeling, along with Soyo's manual, made those connections practically no-brainers. The only aspect of home-built hardware I've ever found
Re: [newbie] No system sounds.
G/D, If the master volume is way down, and the individual sources are too, it just be that they're being played, but you can't hear them. Double-check the volume controls to make sure they're high enough. Miark - Original Message - From: Geof Steichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] No system sounds. Yes, sndconfig finds the card and plays a message although it is very low volume. The system log shows it finds the card just fine also. It plays the cd ok, but still no system sounds. I re-booted and checked the system log again. The messages are still there. They occur when I login as a user (geoffs in this case). See below: Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot kde(pam_unix)[1205]: session opened for user geoffs by (uid=0) Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Geof * On Friday 13 July 2001 04:04 pm, you wrote: have we ran (as root, in a text console) sndconfig? did it work? On Friday 13 July 2001 18:48, Geof Steichen wrote: I can't seem to get system sounds to work now...they used to work. I see the following messages in the system log...What do they mean and how do I fix them? Jul 13 14:42:58 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Geof
Re: [newbie] RE: Use of Linux (in public schools) - way OT
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, etharp wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2001 22:36, Brandon Caudle wrote: I know at my school, we have no plans to upgrade to XP. We have a club snip OK lets do it. I don't consider this off topic, heck this is what this list was for I thought... the free exchange of ideas to help newbies into linux? newbies helping newbies as it are. Well, some reay sharp linux mandrakers (that I personally appreciate and am SURE the rest of the list does too, but I do think therapy could help Civilme learn to relax Toungue sticking all the way thru cheek grin) Any way, I digrese. do you know anyone in our area (Greater CHARLOTTE N.C.) whom might be able to repair monitors? seems like they will wind up being as big a problem (read; expense or not as easy to get good from companies as computer components) as setting up a server and diskless workstations. I don't mind if we take this off list now, in fact i believe I will set up a mail list in the next week or so for this , unless you have better or faster internet access and a mailbox free. Personally I find this list to have a high traffic rate. So therefore all topics that veer off should be taken elsewhere, simply to cut down on the noise, I don't wish to read them, as I'm not going to learn anything following a discussion of LUG's in N.Carolina or elsewhere. I don't wish to create a long list of filters either, so please people, take this stuff off list. Simply my opinion only so take it for what it's worth. -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
Re: [newbie] RE: Use of Linux (in public schools) - way OT
thanks, I as actully refering to a greater Charlotte NC mandrake users group. but thank, I will be checking into this also. On Friday 13 July 2001 19:16, Michael D. Viron wrote: Before starting another linux in education type list, try subscribing to the seul-edu list hosted off of http://seul.org -- We get a lot of traffic from the several hundred subscribers on this type of stuff. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Sr. Systems Administration Consultant, Web Spinners, Univ of West Florida Senior Member, Simple End User Linux (SEUL) At 05:06 PM 07/13/2001 -0400, etharp wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2001 22:36, Brandon Caudle wrote: I know at my school, we have no plans to upgrade to XP. We have a club snip OK lets do it. I don't consider this off topic, heck this is what this list was for I thought... the free exchange of ideas to help newbies into linux? newbies helping newbies as it are. Well, some reay sharp linux mandrakers (that I personally appreciate and am SURE the rest of the list does too, but I do think therapy could help Civilme learn to relax Toungue sticking all the way thru cheek grin) Any way, I digrese. do you know anyone in our area (Greater CHARLOTTE N.C.) whom might be able to repair monitors? seems like they will wind up being as big a problem (read; expense or not as easy to get good from companies as computer components) as setting up a server and diskless workstations. I don't mind if we take this off list now, in fact i believe I will set up a mail list in the next week or so for this , unless you have better or faster internet access and a mailbox free.
Re: [newbie] Knotify error
On Saturday 14 July 2001 02:25, L.V.Gandhi wrote: Thank you very much. I asw in top that kapm-idled uses nearly 50 to 60 % of CPU. How to disable it. in gkrellm I don't have anything for cpu temp. How to know whether mb supports lm_sensors? I have kobian 815e mb. kapm-idled is a count of idle cycles, not really a process. Next version of top will not show it. If you want anything from lm_sensors you must install lm_utils which are not installed by default. KDE and GNOME approaches to using lm_sensors are defanged as well because lm_sensors can simply toast the motherboards of some notebooks. Civileme On July 13, 2001 10:24 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Situations like this are also a good example of why, if your motherboard supports it, everybody should enable lm_sensors and an appropriate FE for it to display cpu temp. I use Gkrellm. Often the first warning you'll get that a process or app has gone wild is a rise to the max in cpu temp. 'Course weaker systems will just freeze or randomly reboot if a wild process is left unattended to. If monitoring isn't feasible, the next best thing is to run 'top' with the Shift+P option to display which proccesses are using the most % of cpu.
Re: [newbie] kwintv compile error.
On Saturday 14 July 2001 02:25, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have mdk 8.0 in my system. For me xawtv is working. I wanted to compile kwintv 0.8.5. I got the following error. g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -c kirc.cpp kirc.cpp:43: declaration of `int *__errno_location ()' throws different exceptions /usr/include/bits/errno.h:39: than previous declaration `int *__errno_location () throw ()' make[3]: *** [kirc.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/kwintv-0.8.5/kwintv' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/kwintv-0.8.5/kwintv' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/kwintv-0.8.5' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Any help pl. The compiler is very strict. gcc 2.95 would probably allow that with a warning and produce buggy code. Well, now is the time to look at the source or to find someone who knows how to look at it. You have the module name and almost any text editor can search for the guilty text. Civileme
Re: [newbie] A note about (software manager?) user-friendliness
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, civileme wrote: snip Software manager is an example of counter-intuitive software for many users. I am a paid engineer for Quality Assurance at Mandrakesoft. That means I look at tools we develop and try to assure they are user-friendly. When I see a lot of bug reports on a tool that we cannot reproduce here, I judge the software is counter-intuitive and that newbies to the software are doing things we didn't defend against, and don't know how to do ourselves. If we know the steps followed to reproduce a problem, we can get an ides how to: Advise the user in the running software Block the error Redo the interface And no, I am not paid to be on the newbie list--I work at my job about 8-10 hours a day and relax by posting on the newbie list for another 4-6 hours. Civileme Well I applaud your going `over and beyond'. I learn a lot reading your posts Civileme. Mandrake can be proud to have such dedication in an employee! -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
[newbie] Batch File In Linux???
Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help me write the equivalent of a batch file for Linux. This is what I need it to do: 1. Open up a Konsole (preferably minimized) and change to the following folder: (/usr/local/bin/Half-Life/hlds_l/), then run the command: startup and keep the Konsole running 2. Open up another new Konsole (preferably minimized as well) and change to the following folder (/usr/local/bin/Half-Life/hlds_l/PB/) then run the command: pb also keep the Konsole running after running the program I'd like to have this so that I can double click on the batch file and have it run, or if I have to run it through Konsole, I'd like as an additional step to have the Konsole that I used to run the batch file to close after issuing the two commands if possible. TIA Curtis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] Re: Some more mobos??
On Friday 13 July 2001 06:27 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 19:56, you wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 11:02 am, Terry Smith wrote: A few weeks ago there was some discussion about mobos, specifically motherboard/chipset combinations that worked well or not well with linux. http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/01/06/06/1821202.shtml The Soyo was a definite winner here with great support, awesome performance, and rock-solid stability. It receives our LinuxHardware.org Top Honors Award and our Works with Linux Certification. I got one (kt7vta pro), and have an oc'd Tbird 1.4 to 1.53g on it (currently 11.5x135). I'd echo the above recommendation based on this snip whatever mobo you decided on, d/l the appropriate manual from the manufacturer's webpage and give it a thoro read while you're waiting for UPS to deliver it ;) Tom, based on one of your previous mails about mwave and also that you went with the soyo, (I have soyo in two of my computers now) I ordered the kt7vta pro and bought a AMD 900 locally to go with it. Now, do you know what is safe to overclock? 10%? Safe and overclock are an oxymoron ;) If you've read any of my past USER rants (ie, problems == user - hardware - then lastly OS, even windo$), then i need to add that overclocking merges the hardware aspect into USER errors ; From what I understand tho, the 900 thru the 1.4 gig Tbird is all the same core. My long overclocking experience has shown me that it's not the core that's the limiting factor most always. The L2 cache is. When they cast cpu's, a bunch at a time, all in one big wafer, then they're separated. They're tested, and the weaker ones are marked, labled, often locked to lower speeds. Intel locks all their cpu's since 8/98. Almost always because the L* caches are the limit, not the core. Sometimes changes are made (ie, stepping, which means 'production run') So it's possible that a 900 Tbird, could make 1, even 1.1+gig with caches enabled. Actually, this is why the Duron, with it's smaller cache, often oc's better than a Tbird. Just put on your Clint Eastwood hat on and say to yourself ..well, how lucky are you feeling today [self] ? ; Caution tho, most compile, or prime95, or even memtest86 hardware errors are due to overstressed caches (L1, L2) ... not the core. I've seen some kiddies bragging about getting their 900 Tbird to 1.5gig. Either they're really lucky at 2.x volts Vcore, all L7 bridges closed, with L2 disabled, water cooled ... or they're lie'in bastards ; Bet'ya in either event they couldn't handle 'cpuburn' for 2 minutes, and with L* caches disabled, they're no better than a 386/33 sx anyhow. Seriously tho, and in answer to your question, about 10% is the norm. You should make 1.0 gig. My 1.4 at 1.55 is a 10% 'safe' overclock. Only problem you may have is unlocking your L1 bridges. I believe most 900's are locked, 1.2g up aren't. You'll probly need to explore the windshield defroster paint trick ;) Now I gotta fess up. I truly don't believe you could see a nickels worth a real world difference in a system running at 900 or a bird oc'd to 1.5 gig like mine. I've just always overclocked, can't resist. I need a 12 step program ; Promised myself I'd boot it for the first time at the default 10.5x133, and at the last moment, hit Delete to enter bios, and changed it to 10.5x140 ;~ When I saw Linux didn't care, I changed the dip switches, rebooted to 12x133, 1600mhz !! BTW, Linux still doesn't care, I need to keep in the 1.5 gig range to fly Billy's airplanes. Winders sux ;( and do you know if there is an ide controller card that will work with linux on this board? For what? OK, the Soyo board only has the tried and true 2 IDE connections, with no B$ win-raid. I believe that's why the Soyo is so well regarded and still on AMD's recommended list. Are you lookin for more? I'm prob'ly even a little more adamant than Civileme about IDE, but I'll let him speak for himself. IMNSHO, any kludge like win-raid, agp, and other pci so-called enhancements are nothing more than marketing tools to sell the latest and greatest to winbloes users. . and best avoided, along with anything USB, another of Billy Goat's M$ hypes. Pretty NSHO, huh? ; I know from what civileme is posting that the promise won't work and there is another brand but I can't find the name. If you need more than 2 IDE ports, then ... I dunno ;) I've never needed or tried more than the standard two. But I believe you can find out pretty quickly by searching Mandrake Forum, or the expert mailing list. or maybe Civileme will answer All I can say is DON't use the AGP slot with whatever controller you decide on. By that I mean that the first PCI slot is the AGP slot. Better stated would be the AGP == the first PCI slot. (AGP is nothin but PCI, we'd all be better off without this M$ Billy hype). That 1st
Re: [newbie] Mine is 14 inches! (don't be jealous).
On Friday 13 July 2001 04:44 pm, etharp wrote: back in those days there was no world wide web, and mozilla1.0 was a project at a college. U of I, Champaign ? I had a text connection to pipeline the ISP that became PSInet and later a connection to Delphi both allowed a shell account dialed in with about a 9600 (or a couple of years later a screamming 14,400 baud. We had e-mail also over fido net for BBS. we had communication programs that worked like minicom. we downloaded files using ymodem or zmodem proticols z was much better, even at 9,6 ; -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Thanks to all!
To All Newbie subscribers: Thanks to all who answered my questions Thanks and God Bless! Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist
[newbie] Open Websites With Mozilla Run Command???
When I type a URL in the Run Command box, I've got it setup that Mozilla opens by using it as default program to open HTML files by changing the File Associations, however when Mozilla loads it doesn't open the site, it just opens up the default start page. So if someone could tell me how I'd go about getting Mozilla to open up the URL I type in the Run Command, I'd appreciate it greatly. TIA Curtis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
[newbie] How To Ignore A Specific Person On This List???
Hi there, Civileme posted how you can ignore a specific person on this list but I lost that email. So if someone could tell me how I'd go about doing that I'd appreciate it greatly. TIA Curtis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [newbie] How To Ignore A Specific Person On This List???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just create a filter using the person's email address, and move all such messages to the Trash. Dave On Friday 13 July 2001 23:16, thus spake Curtis Matthiesen: Hi there, Civileme posted how you can ignore a specific person on this list but I lost that email. So if someone could tell me how I'd go about doing that I'd appreciate it greatly. TIA Curtis _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7T8m1OiMJhTaLf3MRAnhAAJ91gN5vgO2siitaQF6BrMnYsLMYhwCfbK9x nh1t/LiyJXc4O/qFRc7faR4= =nnA3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] Re: Some more mobos??
Thanks, this is very good info. I think that I will for the nonce set it up in an out of the box mode. Don't want to jepordize a $100 cpu. (including fan in cost). I was wondering about the controller card cause I have a set up with two HDs a CDRW and a zip and want to add a plain ole CD-ROM. I figured the IDE controller card was a easy way to do that. Knowing hardware, code or anything much about computing, other than building them, is not my forte. I do learn something new every day thanks to folks like you, so someday may consider myself competent or is it incontenant? On Friday 13 July 2001 23:22, you wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 06:27 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 19:56, you wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 11:02 am, Terry Smith wrote: A few weeks ago there was some discussion about mobos, specifically motherboard/chipset combinations that worked well or not well with linux. http://www.linuxhardware.org/features/01/06/06/1821202.shtml The Soyo was a definite winner here with great support, awesome performance, and rock-solid stability. It receives our LinuxHardware.org Top Honors Award and our Works with Linux Certification. I got one (kt7vta pro), and have an oc'd Tbird 1.4 to 1.53g on it (currently 11.5x135). I'd echo the above recommendation based on this snip whatever mobo you decided on, d/l the appropriate manual from the manufacturer's webpage and give it a thoro read while you're waiting for UPS to deliver it ;) Tom, based on one of your previous mails about mwave and also that you went with the soyo, (I have soyo in two of my computers now) I ordered the kt7vta pro and bought a AMD 900 locally to go with it. Now, do you know what is safe to overclock? 10%? This I understand and used the term safe losely. And I agree that as the user, I am my own worst enemy, re: about 20 reinstalls so far. Safe and overclock are an oxymoron ;) If you've read any of my past USER rants (ie, problems == user - hardware - then lastly OS, even windo$), then i need to add that overclocking merges the hardware aspect into USER errors ; From what I understand tho, the 900 thru the 1.4 gig Tbird is all the same core. My long overclocking experience has shown me that it's not the core that's the limiting factor most always. The L2 cache is. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842
Re: [newbie] Knotify error
On Friday 13 July 2001 09:25 pm, L.V.Gandhi wrote: Thank you very much. I asw in top that kapm-idled uses nearly 50 to 60 % of CPU. How to disable it. in gkrellm I don't have anything for cpu temp. How to know whether mb supports lm_sensors? I have kobian 815e mb. On July 13, 2001 10:24 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Situations like this are also a good example of why, if your motherboard supports it, everybody should enable lm_sensors and an appropriate FE for it to display cpu temp. I use Gkrellm. Often the first warning you'll get that a process or app has gone wild is a rise to the max in cpu temp. 'Course weaker systems will just freeze or randomly reboot if a wild process is left unattended to. If monitoring isn't feasible, the next best thing is to run 'top' with the Shift+P option to display which proccesses are using the most % of cpu. Sorry, I should have excepted 'kapm-idled'. Mea culpa. That is just what it says, idled. It doesn't use any real cpu cycles, or so i'm told ;) It's somethin new, I don't like it much, but for reasons I've heard and don't yet understand, we're stuck with it. Anyhow, 50 to 60% would be a heavy load, but nothin like the 90+% you'd see from a wild process. For lm_sensors, the Mandrake kernels have the modules. They're useless tho until you install the lm_utils rpm (lm_utils-2.4.3_2.5.5-20mdk for 8.0, it's on your Cd's. Caution, I've seen reports from Civileme that lm_utils can toast some laptop motherboards). Then from a CL run 'sensors-detect'. This is a text based config tool that asks some simple questions (default answers usually suffice), then loads the appropriate modules, and displays some lines that you'll need to manually edit (as root) into modules.conf and rc.local so the modules will be loaded on your next boot. It'll also let you know if your motherboard doesn't have an i2c monitoring chip (many ready mades, eg. Dell, and other low end motherboards don't). This done sucessfully, then if you type 'sensors' you should see an output of your system voltages, fan speeds, and temps. If you do, then you can configure Gkrellm to display any of the sensors outputs. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Plugins for Linux -- Acrobat and ATT DjVu image plugin
Dear Joan: Dear friends: There are two plugins that you should have: You can get them (and other plugins) from Netscape by going to About Plugins under Netscape, then at the very top click on Installed plug-ins For more information on Netscape plug-ins, click here. Then select Linux as your platform. This will bring up all plugins for Linux: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_search.cgi 1) the Acrobat plugin: a MUST for libraries. You can get it from Netscape or preferably the Mandrake rpm from http://www.rpmfind.net along with the Mandrake rpm for Acrobat itself: acroread-4.0.5-4mdk.i586.rpm* acroread-nppdf-4.0.5-4mdk.i586.rpm* 2) a special, fascinating plugin for Linux that will interest your librarians: It's called the AT T Dejavu plugin (no relation to Usenet DejaNews). It allows you to view a phenomenal collection of documents at the At T Collection. Installation is a snap. It's called: ATT Labs DjVu Plug-In (Version 3.2.5) for displaying compressed DjVu images The file is: djvu_lin.tar.gz* tar -xzf djvu_lin.tar.gz* Then go into the new directory and as root or user: [sher@localhost npdjvu-3.2.5.3]$ ls README.txt* install* install.log* [sher@localhost npdjvu-3.2.5.3]# ./install (be sure your Netscape-Communicator or Navigator is OPEN. That's it. The At T DjVu library is located online at: http://www.att.com (note the URL) http://www.djvu.att.com/wid/index.html I would suggest again first taking care of all Netscape plugins, then copying them to Mozilla (remembering NOT to overwrite any plugins already in Mozilla (e.g. the Java plugins), then checking the Scan for Netscape plugins in Konqueror's Settings. OK, that's it for now. Best wishes. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] No system sounds.
All mixer settings are at max. Geof **88 On Friday 13 July 2001 05:32 pm, Miark wrote: G/D, If the master volume is way down, and the individual sources are too, it just be that they're being played, but you can't hear them. Double-check the volume controls to make sure they're high enough. Miark - Original Message - From: Geof Steichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] No system sounds. Yes, sndconfig finds the card and plays a message although it is very low volume. The system log shows it finds the card just fine also. It plays the cd ok, but still no system sounds. I re-booted and checked the system log again. The messages are still there. They occur when I login as a user (geoffs in this case). See below: Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot kde(pam_unix)[1205]: session opened for user geoffs by (uid=0) Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:27 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 16:25:32 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Jul 13 16:25:44 lancelot kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Geof * On Friday 13 July 2001 04:04 pm, you wrote: have we ran (as root, in a text console) sndconfig? did it work? On Friday 13 July 2001 18:48, Geof Steichen wrote: I can't seem to get system sounds to work now...they used to work. I see the following messages in the system log...What do they mean and how do I fix them? Jul 13 14:42:58 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 Jul 13 14:43:01 lancelot modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 Geof
Re: [newbie] BIND 9.1
At 1:48 PM -0700 7/13/01, mike.roberts wrote: I have setup a dns server on Mandrake 8 BIND 9.1 I can do forward lookup but cant get a valid response from dig -x ipaddress The reverse file is being loaded 'says syslog' but get a spurios 'unexpected end of input` with each zone file. Any ideas please Make sure your zone files all end in linefeeds. (Or is it carriage returns? I can never remember which OS uses which.) Anyway, hit return after the last line. That's the only thing that springs to mind from your description of the problem. Chris Buxton
Re: [newbie] A note about (software manager?) user-friendliness
On July 13, 2001 04:51 pm, civileme wrote: And no, I am not paid to be on the newbie list--I work at my job about 8-10 === hours a day and relax by posting on the newbie list for another 4-6 hours. Civileme WELL SAID. Any way congratulations for being so good and helping others. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
Re: [newbie] Via Voice
On July 14, 2001 03:38 am, etharp wrote: Via voice installed and works great for me, I use a ISA Sound blaster awe64 gold, and 192 meg ram. how much ram do you have? I could not get it running worth beans when I had 64 meg ram. btw, the processor is a celery 366 Is Via Voice distributed by MDK. Is it free? Does it work in i815 board sound. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
Re: [newbie] gkrellm on top ?
On July 14, 2001 12:30 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: BTW, I configured Gkrellm to only show cpu temp, minimum height (2p), How to get to show cpu temp. I didn't find any options? -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
Re: [newbie] Selecting a version of X on install]
Kevin Fonner wrote: I know on the cd's their are two version's of X on the CD. Version 3.something and Version 4.something. I wanted to install version 4.something. I am sitting here at the package selection screen on install and can't seem to find the Xfree86 packages. Any idea what catagories they are under??? You don't manually install these packages. If you look at the lower left side of the screen you will see where it does the X configuration - it comes wyyy after the package installation. When it comes time to install X, it will ask you which version of X you want and then it will automatically install those packages. At least that's how it works in Expert Install mode - I don't know about the auto install. Good luck and enjoy =)
Re: [newbie] What are your impressions of Reisor FS
Romanator wrote: Hi all, Would most of you say that you would recommend Reiser FS and why? Roman Registered Linux User #179293 su is not the root of your problem but the start of a new journey I'm thinking that they've got the Reiser FS working just fine. I installed Mandrake8.0 on my laptop as a single partition / and it's RFS - I've let my battery die and I've forced an improper reboot and it's never failed me. I also installed my home desktop with 5 partitions: /boot, /, /var, /tmp, and /home - all Reiser and it's never failed me even though I abuse it as well. As far as incompatibilities, if Linux supports the format then it will work. It doesn't matter if you are mixing formats - linux will load the proper driver for the proper file system. Windows cannot natively read Reiser, ext2, or even nfs for that matter. Reiser is just a transparent file system that does a good job. As far as affecting how you read, write, compile or blow your nose, it is no different than any other file system. It will work just as well (or better) than ext2, nfs, or fat32, or anything else.
Re: [newbie] Knotify error
Thank you very much. I asw in top that kapm-idled uses nearly 50 to 60 % of CPU. How to disable it. in gkrellm I don't have anything for cpu temp. How to know whether mb supports lm_sensors? I have kobian 815e mb. On July 13, 2001 10:24 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Situations like this are also a good example of why, if your motherboard supports it, everybody should enable lm_sensors and an appropriate FE for it to display cpu temp. I use Gkrellm. Often the first warning you'll get that a process or app has gone wild is a rise to the max in cpu temp. 'Course weaker systems will just freeze or randomly reboot if a wild process is left unattended to. If monitoring isn't feasible, the next best thing is to run 'top' with the Shift+P option to display which proccesses are using the most % of cpu. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042
