[newbie-it] CDROM Audio

2001-12-26 Thread Giulio



Aiuto, sembrerà strano, ma non riesco a montare CD 
Musicali su Linux Mandrake 7.2, neanche da KDE. Essendo specificato come file 
system l'ISO9660, con un disco audio mi dice file system 
non valido. Dove sbaglio?


[newbie-it] Errore in compilazione di Gnomemeeting

2001-12-26 Thread Alberto Zanoni

Ciao,
ho un sacco di problemi nell'usare GnomeMeeting. Ho la 7.2, e dopo 
tantissimi affanni sono riuscito almeno a far funzionare il ./configure. Ho 
poi il seguente errore:

[alberto@master GnomeMeeting-0.12.2]$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/alberto/gnomemeeting/GnomeMeeting-0.12.2'
Making all in macros
.
`/home/alberto/gnomemeeting/GnomeMeeting-0.12.2/intl'Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/home/alberto/gnomemeeting/GnomeMeeting-0.12.2/src'
c++  -g -O2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include  -o gnomemeeting  
callbacks.o gdkvideoio.o gnomemeeting.o connection.o endpoint.o menu.o 
toolbar.o pref_window.o videograbber.o config.o ldap_window.o splash.o 
docklet.o main_window.o audio.o gatekeeper.o ils.o cleaner.o misc.o 
-L/usr/local/lib  -L/usr/local/lib -lopenh323 -ldl -lpt -lpthread -lssl 
-lcrypto -L/usr/lib  -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -rdynamic 
-lgnorba -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl 
-lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome 
-lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -L/usr/lib -lldap 
-llber -lresolv -lopenh323 -ldl -lpt -lpthread -lssl -lcrypto -L/usr/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread 
-ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext 
-lX11 -lm  -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnorba -lORBitCosNaming 
-lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk 
-lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile 
-lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -L/usr/lib -lORBitCosNaming
-lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -L/usr/lib -lldap -llber -lresolv 
-L/usr/lib -lldap -llber -lresolv -lresolv
/usr/lib/libcrypto.so: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 

Ho provato un po' a giocherellare con le librerie, ma non so da cosa possa 
essere causato questo errore. Qualcuno ha un'idea su come fare ? Grazie, ciao.

Alberto

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Re: [newbie-it] CDROM Audio

2001-12-26 Thread Daniele Micci

Il giorno 13:57, mercoledì 26 dicembre 2001 hai scritto:
 Aiuto, sembrerà strano, ma non riesco a montare CD Musicali su Linux
 Mandrake 7.2, neanche da KDE. Essendo specificato come file system
 l'ISO9660, con un disco audio mi dice file system non valido. Dove sbaglio?

Semplice: nel montarli. Non devi montare i CD audio, semplicemente perchè non 
hanno un file system. Ti è sufficiente aprire XMMS o il lettore CD ed 
ascoltarli. Tutto qui. :-)

Daniele




R: [newbie-it] CDROM Audio

2001-12-26 Thread Fabio Gambini

Ciao , hai idea di come si faccia a togliersi dal news group??? Ci ho
provato un sacco di volte ma non ci sono mai riuscito..
Grazie 1000 per l'aiuto.

Ciao
FAbio

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Per conto di Daniele Micci
Inviato: mercoledì 26 dicembre 2001 19.22
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] CDROM Audio

Il giorno 13:57, mercoledì 26 dicembre 2001 hai scritto:
 Aiuto, sembrerà strano, ma non riesco a montare CD Musicali su Linux
 Mandrake 7.2, neanche da KDE. Essendo specificato come file system
 l'ISO9660, con un disco audio mi dice file system non valido. Dove
sbaglio?

Semplice: nel montarli. Non devi montare i CD audio, semplicemente perchè
non
hanno un file system. Ti è sufficiente aprire XMMS o il lettore CD ed
ascoltarli. Tutto qui. :-)

Daniele





[newbie-it] Informazioni su gnomemeeting

2001-12-26 Thread Alberto Zanoni

Ciao,
ho un sacco di problemi con l'installazione di gnomemeeting, che non riesco 
a fare da RPM per dipendenze troppo pesanti (ho la 7.2, probabilmente l'RPM è 
per 8.0 o 8.1, comunque per librerie c più avanzate da quelle che ho io). 

Ho dunque provato col .tar.gz, e dopo aver lavorato un sacco per inserire le 
librerie che mi mancavano ho il seguente errore:

c++  -g -O2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include  -o gnomemeeting  
callbacks.o gdkvideoio.o gnomemeeting.o connection.o endpoint.o menu.o 
toolbar.o pref_window.o videograbber.o config.o ldap_window.o splash.o 
docklet.o main_window.o audio.o gatekeeper.o ils.o cleaner.o misc.o 
-L/usr/local/lib  -L/usr/local/lib -lopenh323 -ldl -lpt -lpthread -lssl 
-lcrypto -L/usr/lib  -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -rdynamic 
-lgnorba -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl 
-lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome 
-lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -L/usr/lib -lldap 
-llber -lresolv -lopenh323 -ldl -lpt -lpthread -lssl -lcrypto -L/usr/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib -lpthread 
-ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -L/usr/lib -lgdk_pixbuf -L/usr/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext 
-lX11 -lm  -rdynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgnorba -lORBitCosNaming 
-lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk 
-lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile 
-lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -L/usr/lib -lORBitCosNaming
-lORBit -lIIOP -lORBitutil -lglib -lm -L/usr/lib -lldap -llber -lresolv 
-L/usr/lib -lldap -llber -lresolv -lresolv
/usr/lib/libcrypto.so: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [gnomemeeting] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/alberto/gnomemeeting/GnomeMeeting-0.12.2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/alberto/gnomemeeting/GnomeMeeting-0.12.2'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

Qualcuno ha un'idea su come possa fare ? Oppure mandarmi il suo libcrypto.so 
? Grazie infinite,
Alberto
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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

2001-12-26 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:35:55 -0500, Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:52:03 +1100
 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to
 ponder:
 
  MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the
  download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is
  Netscape 4.
  
 
 i thought netscape was open source software?

Netscape 4.x and below is closed source. Netscape 6 and above is based on
Mozilla, which is open source.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

When I see any Web site claim to be only readable using particular hardware or
software, I cringe--they are pining for the bad old days when each piece of
information needed a different program to access it.
-- Tim Berners-Lee, founder of the World Wide Web



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Re: [newbie] Re[2]: is an anti-virus mandatory ?

2001-12-26 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

There are no GNU/Linux virii whatsoever. A few worms exist, but their impact has
been minimal. There have been a number of competitions (with cash prizes) to
write virii for GNU/Linux, but nobody has ever succeeded. Most of the stuff that
exists in the press regarding virii in GNU/Linux is the result of ignorance or
malice (e.g. from antivirus vendors trying to make money). The virus scanners
that do exist for GNU/Linux are made to detect Windows virii. This can be placed
on a GNU/Linux server to prevent Windows client machines from being infected.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:51:06 +0800, Anuerin G. Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 linux (kernel and supporting utilities) is a huge application and thus can be
 exploited by anybody patient, analytical and determined enough to cause misery
 on others. the only good point is that such persons will have to work harder
 to do damage in linux as exploitable flaws are found first by the contributing
 community before major damage is done. if ever there comes an exception and
 somebody creates a bug for linux, a patch could be made ASAP but the computers
 infected will already be hit.
 
 linux may attract more virus writers as it is becoming more popular. but that
 only proves that we should be forever vigilant whenever sensitive data is
 concerned. anyway you have better chances safeguarding your data in linux than
 in windows but that is my opinion alone.
 
 macro viruses wont be prevalent in linux until such a time when the developers
 of office-related applications start implementing support for self-executing
 macros. that goes to say that your data is safe as of this time. for how long
 is a question.
 
 ciao!
 
 
 [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹ wrote:
 
  Robin, Mandrake-group:
 
  Thank you for your comments. I do not know much about linux. I am
  a  fisheries  biologist and have been stuck to msoft for years. I
  have  several  gigabytes  of  compressed articles, data analyses,
  mathematical simulations, references, etc. on MSoft file formats.
  Bad.  I  am  trying  to,  gradually,  migrate  to linux (I choose
  Mandrake out of several distributions I tested).
 
  The  virus issue is of great concern to me. Profesionally, *I am*
  those files (years of work).
 
  I  have read some viruses could attack linux systems and more are
  expected  to come. I do not know well the internals of linux but,
  can  you  be  sure  of ... say ... a macro virus (such as those
  which  destroy  the MSWord .doc format+contents) is impossible to
  make for a linux system running ... say ... StarOffice ?
 
  Cheers,
 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª]
  
  Wednesday, December 26, 2001, 2:20:11 [Islas Canarias, GMT].
  
 
  robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió [25/12/2001, 12:39]:
 
  r For a workstation you shouldn't need antivirus software - it's normally
  r only necessary for servers where people are uploading stuff like Word
  r documents (e.g. someone using MS Word on a virtual drive could in theory
  r infect their files on that drive).
 
  r A virus, in the strict sense of the word, can't do much, if anything, on
  r a Linux system.  As someone (on this list?) pointed out, to infect a
  r linux box with a classic e-mail ploy, you'd have to do something like
  this:
 
  r Dear user,
  r Please copy the attached file foo to your home directory, or better
  r still, if you have root priveleges, somewhere like /usr/bin.  Then type
  r chmod a+x foo. Hit return, type ./foo and hit return again.
 
  r There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you
  r should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal
  r workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to
  medium.
 
  r Robin
 
  r [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹ wrote:
 
  Mandrake-group:
  
  I wonder whether
  
· an antivirus is mandatory for Mandrake
  
  and, if positive,
  
· which one is recommended.
  
  Is there any good open source antivirus (for workstations) ?


-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

If I understood the GNU make syntax correctly (which is possibly not the case -
GNU make is possibly the only example of overkill to rival GNU emacs), this
looks like a reasonable idea. -- Linus Torvalds



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Re: [newbie] Hot keys for toggling btw text and graphic modes

2001-12-26 Thread Stephen Liu

Hi Ed,

Thanks for your advise.

I am using Grub.  What I need is toggling to text mode at boot when graphic 
mode showing on screen for selecting kernels/OS.  Esc and Tab keys did not 
work.  I want to type  single linux  to start single use mode.

How to modify  /etc/grub.conf  to have options for text and graphic mode 
selection at boot/start ?

Thanks in advance.

B.Regards and Merry X'Mas
Stephen Liu

At 12:20 PM 12/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:
ehh.. not sure of exactly what you mean, but, you can start linux as
without Xwindows running, if you have configured lilo to start at run level 5
(Xwindows starts as soon as booted) by 9when first asked to choose) tab and
then type linux 3 (without the quotes) this will start at run level 3,
(multiuser, network, and no GUI). if you have already started and loged in an
Xwindows session, you can try [Ctrl+Alt+f4, or any f key between 1-6) and to
return to your Xwindow session that was left running by  [Ctrl+Alt+f7, or
possibly f9, depend on your setup.)

On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:25, you wrote:
  Hi All People,
 
  What will be the hot keys for toggling between text and graphic modes at
  starting Linux
 
  Thanks
 
  B.R.
  Stephen Liu




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[newbie] Re[2]: Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

2001-12-26 Thread [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹

NDPTAL85, Mandrake-group:  

Not  xtra  $  for  hardware  only  (3x  more expensive than high
quality  pc  hardware):  xtra $ for upgrades, xtra $ for service,
software  is  more  expensive,  etc. Also, Apple has had infamous
policy  changes  in the past. This is getting off topic. There is
nothing  more  cost-effective  than  a linux intel/amd based box:
cheap  to service, cheap to upgrade, great performance. You could
even get a dual pentium for what a low end Mac is worth.

All our Macs are dead in the lab (nobody uses them anymore). They
were  bought  with public funds and once they had to be upgraded,
it was cheaper to buy intel based machines.

Cheers,


[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª]

Wednesday, December 26, 2001, 2:30:44 [Islas Canarias, GMT].




NDPTAL85 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió [26/12/2001, 2:15]:

N worlds  (mainstream  apps and Unix apps). Its a question of do
N you want to pay the extra money for Apple hardware.





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Re: Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)

2001-12-26 Thread robin



Doug Lerner wrote:

A little common sense can apply here. Certainly there are some examples
that are obvious. For example, the letter a is obviously public domain.
But C code that actually does something useful and was created with the
effort of a developer - that is obviously different, isn't it?

Dirt anybody can find in the ground. It doesn't mean that a beautiful
clay pot that somebody creates then belongs to everybody, does it?

OK, I'm getting way off topic here, so feel free to tell me to shut up.

The problem, IMHO, is philosophical, and lies in the concept of property 
itself. Societies based on a more-or-less Western, more-or-less 
capitalist, more-or-less industrial model tend to regard prototypical 
property as manufactured exchangable physical objects. Intellectual 
property is a metaphorical extension of that notion, so we own an idea 
in the same way that we own a  pot.

One reaction, popular in Free Software circles, is to say that this 
analogy is false - you can own a pot but you can't own an idea.  I 
believe this reaction is also based on false premises. If what makes a 
pot yours is your labour (as Locke claimed) then the labour you have put 
into a computer program should also make it yours - more so, in fact, 
since it does not rely on appropriation of common property (the dirt 
Doug mentions).

Or does it?  Ideas come from other ideas which are common property in 
much the same way as dirt is.  A pot cannot be _wholly_ someone's 
property because it contains common property, not only in the form of 
dirt (or rather clay, which is not as common or worthless) but also in 
terms of ideas accumulated over thousands of years of ceramics.  All 
this goes to show that property as an absolute concept is unworkable. A 
society _may_ choose to give certain people exclusive use of certain 
objects or ideas, and to give them the right to exchange these things, 
but only if this works for the benefit of all concerned.  Ownership is 
no more than a convenient fiction.

Robin




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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread bascule

perhaps i'm missing the point of the thread here, but i have in the past 
successfully had two seperate win9x partitions on my drive, both of which 
booted from lilo, a the moment i have a dos partition at hda1 and a 
winxp-ntfs partition at hda2, both these boot from lilo, perhaps the issue 
here is to do with 'hiding' partitions?

just my thrup'ny bit from the christmas pud!

bascule

On Wednesday 26 December 2001 3:50 am, you wrote:
 Well, obviously everybody in the world except for me knew that Windows
 will not run from the 2nd partition. I will just re-install. The Windows
 installation is new anyway and I have no real data that is lost.

 I *do* think a warning in the installer would be a good idea though!

 doug





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[newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Charles Jennings

This ones got me baffled. I am trying to install Mandrake 8.1 on my wifes 
computer. It's a pentium with a 10 gig hard drive running win98. I try to 
install in the expert mode and resize it. I get the massage that it can't be 
resized. After scandisk and defrag, and looking into fdisk, there is 6.1 gig 
free but the whole disk is active for win. I don't know why diskdrake won't 
resize it. I am not competent to use fdisk (never done it and I don't want to 
erase the wife's hard drive by error). Any suggestions on what might be the 
cause and the solution?
Thanks.



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Re: [newbie] ATI All-In-Wonder 128 Pro 32mg AGP

2001-12-26 Thread Mohammed Arafa

did u try gatos.sourceforge.net?
they have some ati stuff
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:36 PM
Subject: [newbie] ATI All-In-Wonder 128 Pro 32mg AGP



 I'm in the process of building a PC, and I'm considering using this video
 card. Any problems with that, that anyone knows of? This is going to be
 for use with both 7.2 and 8.1, primarily 8.1.

 I checked, but I did not see it listed in the Mandrake hardware page...









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Re: [newbie] scanners

2001-12-26 Thread Mohammed Arafa

check out mandrake hard ware compatibility list on thier site
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Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 4:00 PM
Subject: [newbie] scanners


 I've got some Christmas dough burning a hole in my pocket.  Can someone
 suggest a good, reasonably-priced scanner that will work well in Mandrake
8.0
 and 8.1?
 Happy Holidays,
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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

2001-12-26 Thread skinky

On Wednesday 26 December 2001 17:26, Mark Weaver wrote:
|  -
|  If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
|  the first time!


yeah... what is it with men?  ; )

I have to bite my tongue (daily I swear) so as not to say I told you so 
or if only you'd listen! grin

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Re: Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

Whether a pot is the result of thousands of years of accumulated
knowledge about ceramics shouldn't matter. Somebody has to still decide
to put forth the labor required to make an instance of the pot. After he
or she does so it is the maker's thing to profit from.

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001):



Doug Lerner wrote:

A little common sense can apply here. Certainly there are some examples
that are obvious. For example, the letter a is obviously public domain.
But C code that actually does something useful and was created with the
effort of a developer - that is obviously different, isn't it?

Dirt anybody can find in the ground. It doesn't mean that a beautiful
clay pot that somebody creates then belongs to everybody, does it?

OK, I'm getting way off topic here, so feel free to tell me to shut up.

The problem, IMHO, is philosophical, and lies in the concept of property 
itself. Societies based on a more-or-less Western, more-or-less 
capitalist, more-or-less industrial model tend to regard prototypical 
property as manufactured exchangable physical objects. Intellectual 
property is a metaphorical extension of that notion, so we own an idea 
in the same way that we own a  pot.

One reaction, popular in Free Software circles, is to say that this 
analogy is false - you can own a pot but you can't own an idea.  I 
believe this reaction is also based on false premises. If what makes a 
pot yours is your labour (as Locke claimed) then the labour you have put 
into a computer program should also make it yours - more so, in fact, 
since it does not rely on appropriation of common property (the dirt 
Doug mentions).

Or does it?  Ideas come from other ideas which are common property in 
much the same way as dirt is.  A pot cannot be _wholly_ someone's 
property because it contains common property, not only in the form of 
dirt (or rather clay, which is not as common or worthless) but also in 
terms of ideas accumulated over thousands of years of ceramics.  All 
this goes to show that property as an absolute concept is unworkable. A 
society _may_ choose to give certain people exclusive use of certain 
objects or ideas, and to give them the right to exchange these things, 
but only if this works for the benefit of all concerned.  Ownership is 
no more than a convenient fiction.

Robin


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[newbie] Limewire and java-VM

2001-12-26 Thread Michael Dannhorn

Hi,

I try to install 'Limewire' on my LM 8.1.

There I get this message:

# sh LimeWireLinux.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
running this program.


I downloaded jre1.3.1 from sun and installed it with rpm -i .

Who could me help to set up 'jre' in a correct way?

ciao
Michael


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Re: [newbie] Hot keys for toggling btw text and graphic modes

2001-12-26 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:33:37 +0800
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ed,
 
 Thanks for your advise.
 
 I am using Grub.  What I need is toggling to text mode at boot when graphic 
 mode showing on screen for selecting kernels/OS.  Esc and Tab keys did not 
 work.  I want to type  single linux  to start single use mode.
 
 How to modify  /etc/grub.conf  to have options for text and graphic mode 
 selection at boot/start ?
 
 

  Stephen

If you are wanting to have the option at boot as to choose to boot into either
text or GUI, then this is not possible.
Though there are other factors involved this operation in basicly handled
by /etc/initab and can have only 1 default entry which is the run level to
which the system will always boot, it can either be to X or 1 of the h other 
run levels.

To drop to single user mode from the GUI login, Alt+Ctrl+F1-F4, login as root
and run init3, to return and restart the X server init5.


   Charles
 
  





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[newbie] executing via cron

2001-12-26 Thread caspar kennerdale

hopefully someone can help.

I have three php scripts I'd like to execute autoimatically twice a day.

My isp says I can do this a this via cron-oir he wont let me.

He suggested that he could automate a perl script though.

Can I get a perlscript to then execute the php scripts?- I dpo not know
perl.

Any ideas anyone

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Re: [newbie] Philips Nino PDA ?

2001-12-26 Thread Joan Tur

Es Dilluns 24 Desembre 2001 20:03, en [EMAIL PROTECTED] va escriure:
 hey,
 i have the nino 500. i've tried to get it to connect but have not gotten
 it. ive even tried to use wine on the windoze connection program but it
 crashes. somehow i don't think the nino will ever connect w/ linux. the
 real good wuestion to ask is if anyone has ever put linux on the nino. i've
 seen it done on a compaq ipaq. but not on the nino
 Joe
Mine is Nino 200; WinCE 2.0 is in ROM so i have to change it if i want to 
try...

I was going to try wine but... what's the .exe i have to run ??  8.?

Thanks for your answer !!
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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Charles Jennings


You are right about why it won't partition; it has lots of files at the end 
of the disk, according to the defrag detail. I remembered that Norton speed 
disk orders things differently, so I tried that. That organized the disk so 
that thousands of red flagged clusters are now at the end of the disk. And a 
subsequent defrag won't touch them. So I suppose I am into something like you 
are talking about below. I am not competent enough to do the whole shooting 
match you suggest, so I will evaluate other options. If I get pissed enough, 
I'll just wipe the disk clean and put windows where it belongs. 
If any other idea comes to mind, or if anyone else has had any luck doing 
this in a more simplified way, I would appreciate knowing about it.
Thanks.


On Wednesday 26 December 2001 04:26 am, you wrote:
 Charles Jennings wrote:
 This ones got me baffled. I am trying to install Mandrake 8.1 on my wifes
 computer. It's a pentium with a 10 gig hard drive running win98. I try to
 install in the expert mode and resize it. I get the massage that it can't
  be resized. After scandisk and defrag, and looking into fdisk, there is
  6.1 gig free but the whole disk is active for win. I don't know why
  diskdrake won't resize it. I am not competent to use fdisk (never done it
  and I don't want to erase the wife's hard drive by error). Any
  suggestions on what might be the cause and the solution?
 Thanks.

 This one means that a windows program has placed a non-relocatable
 cluster near the end of the disk or that you are using the NTFS
 filesystem which we do not write-enable in the install kernel.

 SInce you are running 98 which does not support NTFS, do the disk defrag
 and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom you will find one
 or more red-marked clusters.

 The solution is non-trivial,  Either remove programs one by one and
 defrag and try linux after each such removal or install linux on another
 large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your windows data over (but not
 your installed programs), then scrub windows and go back to fdisk and
 set up windows on a smaller primary partition, reinstalling software
 then set up linux again on the primary master drive and mount the second
 drive to restore the data you wanted to back up.  I have done this in
 another situation--a rather full 10G disk where Win98 was installed and
 the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and keyboard (both
 Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the process.  I could not
 shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the 2.2G of data he
 wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a linux install on it,
 then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the info he wanted.
  The clean install of XP still could not see his mouse or keyboard, so
 he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days, and he seems very
 grateful that linux was able to save his data from an otherwise trashed
 situation.

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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Ken Nowack

No, the issue is that win2k/NT *has* to be on the
first partition on the drive or it won't load.

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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Ken Nowack

I had the same problem the first time I tried to
install Mandrake. The thing that worked for me was to
use partition magic. At the very least, if it doesn't
work for you, you're in no worse shape than  you
currently are. But if it does work, you can handle the
resize and also create your linux partitions before
you even start the install.

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Re: [newbie] executing via cron

2001-12-26 Thread Michael Viron

php is not really meant to be executed via the command line (although it
can be).  It is meant for dynamic websites.  In dynamic websites, php is
already 'executed' everytime someone visits the website.

If you are going to run something via cron, you'd be better off writing it
in perl, C, or shell.

Michael

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At 12:57 PM 12/28/2001 -, you wrote:
hopefully someone can help.

I have three php scripts I'd like to execute autoimatically twice a day.

My isp says I can do this a this via cron-oir he wont let me.

He suggested that he could automate a perl script though.

Can I get a perlscript to then execute the php scripts?- I dpo not know
perl.

Any ideas anyone

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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:12:52 -0800 (PST)
Ken Nowack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, the issue is that win2k/NT *has* to be on the
 first partition on the drive or it won't load.
 
 

That statement simply Is Not true.

Win2k can be installed to or booted from any partition or even any drive 
on your system.
I have used and unstalled it thus.
I have even moved the drive to another system and Grub was able
to pick up boot both the Win2K and Win98 partitions.

The problem is that for whatever reason the NT bootloader can be as fickle
as win itself.
9 out of 10 times no problem occurs but on the 10th ntloader.exe is damaged
or not able to be properly transfered.

The best option If lilo is being used And lilo has been installed Only once
is to run /sbin/lilo -u to restore the 2K bootloader.
If 2k will now auto boot without problem, use the floppy to boot linux
and reinstall lilo.


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Re: [newbie] Philips Nino PDA ?

2001-12-26 Thread Mafiajoe3
I just tried installing the whole program w/ wine into a fake windoze directory that it made. That didn't really work too well. I then tried to use wine on the .exe's in the real windoze directory, but they would all crash w/ errors. The new versions of wine may get them to work, I used the older ones being that I tried this a while ago.


Re: [newbie] New

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:47:35 -0600
Ricky Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 Ok, Well my when I say my network browsing I do mean my LAN. See it is realy
 funny because I am connected to the internet through my LAN. And the
 internet is working just fine. But I can not explore the network. Well I am
 going to boot out of windows now and go try to setup my E-Mail on linux.
 

well, in order to figure out just why you can't browse your LAN with your Linux box 
we're going to have to know what kind of network you're connected to. 

1) is it a Microsoft NT network of sorts?

2) is it a Unix network?

3) is it a Novell network using IPX protocol?

these three use slightly different methods of communictation and authentication across 
the network from the clients to the servers. 

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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Terry C

I helped a friend deal with the same situation by
using a little utility called FIPS. You can find it on
your Mandrake CD's. It doesn't have a fancy GUI but it
will take you through the resizing process
step-by-step and is really pretty easy to use.

TC

--- tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Charles Jennings wrote:
 
 This ones got me baffled. I am trying to install
 Mandrake 8.1 on my wifes 
 computer. It's a pentium with a 10 gig hard drive
 running win98. I try to 
 install in the expert mode and resize it. I get the
 massage that it can't be 
 resized. After scandisk and defrag, and looking
 into fdisk, there is 6.1 gig 
 free but the whole disk is active for win. I don't
 know why diskdrake won't 
 resize it. I am not competent to use fdisk (never
 done it and I don't want to 
 erase the wife's hard drive by error). Any
 suggestions on what might be the 
 cause and the solution?
 Thanks.
 
 
 This one means that a windows program has placed a
 non-relocatable 
 cluster near the end of the disk or that you are
 using the NTFS 
 filesystem which we do not write-enable in the
 install kernel.
 
 SInce you are running 98 which does not support
 NTFS, do the disk defrag 
 and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom
 you will find one 
 or more red-marked clusters.
 
 The solution is non-trivial,  Either remove programs
 one by one and 
 defrag and try linux after each such removal or
 install linux on another 
 large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your
 windows data over (but not 
 your installed programs), then scrub windows and go
 back to fdisk and 
 set up windows on a smaller primary partition,
 reinstalling software 
 then set up linux again on the primary master drive
 and mount the second 
 drive to restore the data you wanted to back up.  I
 have done this in 
 another situation--a rather full 10G disk where
 Win98 was installed and 
 the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and
 keyboard (both 
 Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the
 process.  I could not 
 shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the
 2.2G of data he 
 wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a
 linux install on it, 
 then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the
 info he wanted. 
  The clean install of XP still could not see his
 mouse or keyboard, so 
 he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days,
 and he seems very 
 grateful that linux was able to save his data from
 an otherwise trashed 
 situation.
 
 Civileme
 
 


 
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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:12:52 -0800 (PST)
Ken Nowack [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 No, the issue is that win2k/NT *has* to be on the
 first partition on the drive or it won't load.
 

_thats_ been a known issue with NT forever. Most familiar with NT already know this so 
it's really a non-issue. However, those never having dealt with NT before and being 
new to Win2K very well might not know this and would likely run into this difficulty.

So, I wouldn't think it would be the responsibility if the Mandrake documentation 
people/process to advise or inform folks that there will be problems _if_ windows 
isn't, in this situation, the first OS on the drive. This is a matter of knowing your 
current OS and it's needs and compatability issues _before_ making major changes to 
the existing system.

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RE: [newbie] executing via cron

2001-12-26 Thread caspar kennerdale

it is written in php because i do not knoe c or perl unfortunately

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Viron
Sent: 26 December 2001 16:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] executing via cron


php is not really meant to be executed via the command line (although it
can be).  It is meant for dynamic websites.  In dynamic websites, php is
already 'executed' everytime someone visits the website.

If you are going to run something via cron, you'd be better off writing it
in perl, C, or shell.

Michael

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At 12:57 PM 12/28/2001 -, you wrote:
hopefully someone can help.

I have three php scripts I'd like to execute autoimatically twice a day.

My isp says I can do this a this via cron-oir he wont let me.

He suggested that he could automate a perl script though.

Can I get a perlscript to then execute the php scripts?- I dpo not know
perl.

Any ideas anyone

cheers


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[newbie] how do i know if USB was detected? and iomega external CDRW ?

2001-12-26 Thread Kenn Murrah

Greetings.

I've done a default 8.1 installation on my laptop and
everything seems to be functioning properly, including
an ethernet connection that i was a little concerned
about ...

how do i tell if USB installed properly as well? the
only USB gadget i have with me today at the office is
an external Iomega zipCD drive, and i can't tell if
it's seeing it or not ... i guess i also have an
iomega usb zip drive, but that's also not listed as
supported ...

has anyone had any luck with either one of these
products?

thanks in advance,

kennM



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[newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread E Estes

I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but they
have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see how this
would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked around in the
User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see anything pertaining to
what I need to do. I know it will be a simple thing to do (I would rather
learn how to do it in shell) but I am stumped.

Thanks in advance if you can help,
Mithrilhall

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[newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Ed Kasky

What a holiday!  Our box that runs our mail server was hacked on Dec. 23 
and we are still trying to clean up the mess...

I know this may be a tad off topic so if you have an answer to this 
question, you can always just email me privately.  I just thought someone 
here might know how to solve this one last issue.

This particular server is running RH 6.  They changed /bin/ps to something 
that is totally different than what we had on there before and created a 
hard link so that it can't be deleted or updated until we find the hard 
link.  My question is how do I trace this link so I can delete it, and then 
reinstall the rpm

Even forcing the rpm install returns the following:

# rpm -i --force /test/procps-2.0.2-2.i386.rpm
can't rename /bin/ps to /bin/ps-RPMDELETE: Operation not permitted
unpacking of archive failed on file /bin/ps: cpio: unlink failed - 
Operation not permitted

Thanks in advance...

Ed
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Re: [newbie] Has our list-server gotX-MAS hiccups ? 2nd try

2001-12-26 Thread Oliver L.Plaine Jr

I donno..perhaps I still have a mail problem? I posted this 24hrs ago 
and it went to the bit bucket in the sky? this is a test repost..olly P
 
#c0; text-decoration: none; }Re: [newbie] Has our list-server got 
X-MAS hiccups ?  (Oliver L. Plaine Jr,  Tue Dec 25 11:42:12 2001)

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:13, Kaj was quoting his friend.

  Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I
  can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are
  constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them
  to look into the matter. I can receive email from the list, so I am
  still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message
  from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and receive email from
  everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list!
  I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still
  nothing.

--
Tue Dec 25 11:23:34 2001  61degF and cloudy

Happy holidays Y'all
 I had this problem just last week...I could not post to newbie 
, 
although I could receive OK...and I could not resub as the MDK server 
refused to accept anything from me
 Other people in my address book received my messages OK it 
seemed but 
then I discovered that anyone on AOL was not getting them either.

 My problem turned out to beas I was fooling with Kmail I 
misspelled  worldnet in the from line as wroldnet but the reply to 
address was spelled correctly. most ISP's do not check to see if a 
sender uses a valid addressbut evidently AOL and newbie  does? as 
they rejected my messages.I suppose that is a anti spam thing?

double check those spellings, I overlooked that one a dozen 
times...also look for a random period that you finger may have put in 
by itself?

 like the tester once said (paraphrased)those tiny 
viruses get 
their sharp little claws into my keyboard

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Re: [newbie] how do i know if USB was detected? and iomega external CDRW ?

2001-12-26 Thread Larry Varney

  I have just today upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1, and it's getting to the 
point where I'll be surprised when the install *doesn't* go smoothly! 
But I have a similar question about USB devices. Mine were recognized by 
Mandrake, as seen by running USBViewer. It picked up my SmartMedia / 
CompactFlash Adapter, the scanner, and even a joystick and a modem. 
Trouble is: what do I do now?
  Out on Mandrake's site, I see that USB storage devices, such as the 
SM/CF adapter, should be mounted like SCSI stuff. As in: External USB 
storage devices are handled like SCSI devices, so everything I said 
about mounting parallel devices above also applies here, i.e. to mount a 
ZIP disk in a USB connected ZIP drive, you'd most likely use

mount /dev/sda4 -t vfat /mnt/zip
   ---
  Trouble is, the info in USBView doesn't seem to include any info such 
as something that's found in the /dev directory.
  I would love to be able to use the scanner and especially the SM/CF 
adapter - two less reasons to boot up into Windows.  So, how do I go 
about attaching these recognized USB devices to something that I can 
then 'mount'?  -- Thanks!

Kenn Murrah wrote:

Greetings.

I've done a default 8.1 installation on my laptop and
everything seems to be functioning properly, including
an ethernet connection that i was a little concerned
about ...

how do i tell if USB installed properly as well? the
only USB gadget i have with me today at the office is
an external Iomega zipCD drive, and i can't tell if
it's seeing it or not ... i guess i also have an
iomega usb zip drive, but that's also not listed as
supported ...

has anyone had any luck with either one of these
products?

thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

2001-12-26 Thread tester

Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:17 pm, Doug Lerner wrote:

What do people think about free vs commercial software in general?
I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a
company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a
great, loyal customer base.

Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software
supported and updated?

doug


Well the analogy of the clay pot may not be good at all.  Consider this--

I make a clay pot, and I fire it and I go to a lawyer and show him the 
product and get him to draft a patent so that no one else can glaze clay 
pots or decorate them in any way without paying me royalties.  I file 
the patent and use the proceeds from my clay pots to threaten to keep 
anyone else who fires clay pots in court for years of ruinous spending 
battling my army of lawyers unless they pay me ransom for protection 
against lawsuit.

This has happened more than once.  Long before hyperlinks were a 
reality, British Telecom patented the idea of them and could make life 
difficult for all of us.  Does your specilaized software use hyperlinks? 
 or perhaps themes?  Well the idea of themes belongs to Apple 
computing...  Patented.  As a matter of fact, you cannot write software 
without significant risk of inadvertant infringement.  And the current 
patent laws set up a legal protection racket whereby technology 
companies trading in intellectual property with a CEO and a couple 
battalions of lawyers  and _no_ programmers make themselves moderately 
wealthy by extorting license fees for protection from suit.  It even 
gets as subtle as We hold patent to this technology and your website 
subscribers might be using graphics in our format created with 
unlicensed software, but you can buy a license to avoid litigation in 
the event this does occur for $7.500

The problem does not rest with Intellectual property but with 
application which has definitely become a reductio ad absurdem. 
 Non-productive drones feast off the efforts of the workers, the 
software writers, and squelch creativity.  This is the reality and it is 
why anything I write is GPL.

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Re: [newbie] is an anti-virus mandatory ?

2001-12-26 Thread tester

tek1 wrote:

 hi robin.

 is there a detailed description as to what each mandrake security 
 level entails (e.g. what settings are changed)?  also, is there a way 
 to change the level easily after installation?

 thx and happy holidays!  :)



 At 14:39 01/12/25 +0200, you wrote:

 There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you 
 should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal 
 workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to 
 medium.

 Robin






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go to control center and click on security and you can do it there.

Security levels go as follows

Welcome to Crackers --Level 0  -- no login or password and you are 
running as root
Poor -- No checks and no passwords, user and root are distinct  Level 1
Low -- Suitable for a modicum of security on unconnected computers ... 
 Passwords and users are intact but no dynamic checking is done.
Medium--Dynamic security checking is done and you get mail from the msec 
daemon about weak points Suitable for workstations connected to internet
High--checking and correction of some problem areas is done Root login 
is not allowed, no services are started by default  Suitable for most 
server use  Weak passwords not permitted
Paranoid--Level 5--Suitable for DNS and other servers where tunneling 
becomes a possibility.  Most everything has to be run in chroot jails or 
it won't work.

Now for more detail, try

file:/usr/share/doc/msec-0.15

right on your installed system.

Same general rule applies--look for a program name folder in 
/usr/share/doc when you have questions about other software.

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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Weaver

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:47:25 -0800
Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 What a holiday!  Our box that runs our mail server was hacked on Dec. 23 
 and we are still trying to clean up the mess...
 
 I know this may be a tad off topic so if you have an answer to this 
 question, you can always just email me privately.  I just thought someone 
 here might know how to solve this one last issue.
 
 This particular server is running RH 6.  They changed /bin/ps to something 
 that is totally different than what we had on there before and created a 
 hard link so that it can't be deleted or updated until we find the hard 
 link.  My question is how do I trace this link so I can delete it, and then 
 reinstall the rpm
 
 Even forcing the rpm install returns the following:
 
 # rpm -i --force /test/procps-2.0.2-2.i386.rpm
 can't rename /bin/ps to /bin/ps-RPMDELETE: Operation not permitted
 unpacking of archive failed on file /bin/ps: cpio: unlink failed - 
 Operation not permitted
 
 Thanks in advance...
 
 Ed
 ~~

Ed,

have you tried going in at runlevel #1, umount the partition where ps lives and 
tried deleting it that way?

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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Ed Kasky

At 03:45 PM Wednesday, 12/26/2001, you wrote -=
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:47:25 -0800
Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:
  hard link so that it can't be deleted or updated until we find the hard
  link.  My question is how do I trace this link so I can delete it, and 
 then
  reinstall the rpm

Ed,

have you tried going in at runlevel #1, umount the partition where ps 
lives and tried deleting it that way?

No - but we will give it a try.  Thanks for the tip

After thinking about this, would booting with single work as well??

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the first time!

Perfect!  I added it to my list


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[newbie] Lost My nVidia Install Instructions!

2001-12-26 Thread Wes Gregg

Hello everyone,

I hate doing this, especially a subject that has been discussed so much 
already.  I installed Mandrake Linux 8.1 (Powerpack).  Someone was nice 
enough to send me step-by-step directions for installing the nVidia drivers 
(the glx file and the kernel?).  I sucessfully downloaded the 1541 version 
and installed them.  Then due to lots of other things I had to reinstall (yet 
again, oh I hope this is the last time for a while!) the OS.  Yup, you 
guessed it, I didn't keep a hard copy of the directions, and of course the 
email was wiped by the reinstall.

I am hoping a good samaritan will talk me through this one more (last) 
time.  In return I promise not only to PRINT a copy, but to try to help 
someone else when they try to install.

I would like to install the latest kernel(?) which is 2314.  I couldn't 
find a 2314 glx file but I read @ nVidia's site that I can use the 2313 - I 
think (sorry, working nights means I've been up about 23 hours).

Anyhow, I've got every form of the 2313 files that I could find for 
Mandrake 8.1 (uni-processor).  I also got both forms of the 2314 file.  I 
think they are both source files, but one is tar?

I was using 1541 and having lockups, but I have determined that they were 
due to a bad setting in my bios causing my soundcard to lock the system.  
IOW, it wasn't happening on GL function, but when it tried to play sounds, 
such as booting into KDE.  I seem to have fixed that one, though.  I can not 
only boot KDE with my sound card installed now - I can play .mp3's while 
browsing with Opera, downloading files, etc.  So I hope that I won't 
encounter any more of the kind of lockups that only a reset switch will cure. 
That's what finally caused me to reinstall this last (actually most of them) 
time, one too many resets corrupted my filesystem or simply enough files that 
I couldn't boot.  I've been going through this all month, first with many 
problems that I couldn't solve no matter what I tried (turned out to need a 
bios upgrade, which caused Win98 to swear I had no sound/video/modem (oops) 
but Linux sure seemed to like it.  Then video, then the soundcard (after the 
reinstall).  So you can see why I fear that I'll screw it up.  I've read 
several ways to do this on the web, but I am getting more confused the more I 
read.  I think that whichever set of files I choose to use I only need two of 
them?  That is how I did the 1541 set.  I know whatever tools I need to 
manipulate/install them are installed on my system (along with 3+gigs of 
other things I have yet to fully explore, WOW!  Matches my Windows partition 
exactly for size, and that includes lots of music cd's I've loaded in as mp3s!

Someone please help me put my desktop out of its misery (by being able to 
finally stay out of Win98SE).

BTW, are there many users out there like my wife and myself - wanting to use 
Mandrake 8.1 as a pure desktop box?  Comparing the useful software 
preinstalled on most new computers against my Powerpack install?  I may never 
actually NEED to buy or download another application again (but I will, there 
are so many out there) if I don't want to.  I would like to see Mandrake 
start a heavy advertising campaign targeting Joe Desktop.

Thanks very much,
Wes Gregg
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Re: [newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread skinky

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 12:04, E Estes wrote:
|  I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but
| they have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see
| how this would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked
| around in the User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see
| anything pertaining to what I need to do. I know it will be a simple
| thing to do (I would rather learn how to do it in shell) but I am
| stumped.
|
|  Thanks in advance if you can help,
|  Mithrilhall
|
|  =Mithrilhall=
|  Linux - Mandrake 8.1
|  AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz
|   File Server
|  FTP Server
| Web Server
|  =


I know nothing about servers but perhaps the same principle applies as 
with any directory or file:  In the Mandrake documentation  Reference 
Manual   Chapter 3 - Introduction to the Command Line  3.2.2 chmod: 
Changing Permissions on Files and Directories

Thats where I learned about dir/file permissions.  There is also man chmod 
and info chmod.  HTH

skinky
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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Charles Jennings


Not being a great command line user, but not too afraid of DOS, I would like 
to try using FIPS if it might do it. I looked at it on the first cd of 
Mandrake while in windows and it cautioned that it needs to be run in DOS. 
With what little I know of DOS, I tried to call it up from the cd in DOS 
without luck. Can anyone give me more specific instructions on how to use it?


On Wednesday 26 December 2001 10:50 am, you wrote:
 I helped a friend deal with the same situation by
 using a little utility called FIPS. You can find it on
 your Mandrake CD's. It doesn't have a fancy GUI but it
 will take you through the resizing process
 step-by-step and is really pretty easy to use.

 TC

 --- tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Charles Jennings wrote:
  This ones got me baffled. I am trying to install
 
  Mandrake 8.1 on my wifes
 
  computer. It's a pentium with a 10 gig hard drive
 
  running win98. I try to
 
  install in the expert mode and resize it. I get the
 
  massage that it can't be
 
  resized. After scandisk and defrag, and looking
 
  into fdisk, there is 6.1 gig
 
  free but the whole disk is active for win. I don't
 
  know why diskdrake won't
 
  resize it. I am not competent to use fdisk (never
 
  done it and I don't want to
 
  erase the wife's hard drive by error). Any
 
  suggestions on what might be the
 
  cause and the solution?
  Thanks.
 
  This one means that a windows program has placed a
  non-relocatable
  cluster near the end of the disk or that you are
  using the NTFS
  filesystem which we do not write-enable in the
  install kernel.
 
  SInce you are running 98 which does not support
  NTFS, do the disk defrag
  and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom
  you will find one
  or more red-marked clusters.
 
  The solution is non-trivial,  Either remove programs
  one by one and
  defrag and try linux after each such removal or
  install linux on another
  large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your
  windows data over (but not
  your installed programs), then scrub windows and go
  back to fdisk and
  set up windows on a smaller primary partition,
  reinstalling software
  then set up linux again on the primary master drive
  and mount the second
  drive to restore the data you wanted to back up.  I
  have done this in
  another situation--a rather full 10G disk where
  Win98 was installed and
  the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and
  keyboard (both
  Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the
  process.  I could not
  shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the
  2.2G of data he
  wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a
  linux install on it,
  then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the
  info he wanted.
   The clean install of XP still could not see his
  mouse or keyboard, so
  he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days,
  and he seems very
  grateful that linux was able to save his data from
  an otherwise trashed
  situation.
 
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Re: [newbie] Lost My nVidia Install Instructions!

2001-12-26 Thread Wes Gregg

On Wednesday 26 December 2001 04:51 pm, you wrote:
 I completely agree on the Desktop issue, they should really begin
 advertising towards a lower common denominator. The Geeks and Gurus out
 there already know what the options are, and know that Mandrake is up
 there w/ the best. If they would start bundleing Star Office or Open
 Office as default on the 2nd CD instead of another popular office sweet
 (COUGH! KoFFICE COUGH!)things would be much better.

Right.  It was purely by chance that I found ManLin8.1PwP.  The only probs I 
had with installation were due to flaky hardware (bad settings, rather old 
bios, me trying to fix things that weren't actually broken thinking they 
would take care of my problems, such like that) and resetting when I insisted 
on locking the computer by doing the same silly things over and over.  The 
average user probbably wouldn't have any trouble as long as they did the 
expert installation and took their time to read everything.

My version came with StarOffice (only 5.2, but it's a start) and Koffice.  
What is OpenOffice?  I've heard about it but really haven't had time to 
check.  A friend of mine in the UK (Paul Woodward) downloaded StarOffice 6.0 
for me (I only have 28.8 dialup in a real modem) and I think sent me the CD 
of it.  I heard 6.0 is a totally different beast (in a good way).

 Guess what... time to recompile the NVIDIA_kernel driver.

 The steps are pretty simple.
 rpm -e --nodeps the NVIDIA_kernel.

I don't think I have the nvidia_kernel installed yet.  This is a FRESH 
install of ManLin8.1.  I did search for  find an uninstalled package of 
nVidia driver but it is OLD, 1012 or something like that.  It remains 
uninstalled.

 Download the NVIDIA_kernel-xxx.src.rpm
 Download the System Kernel you want to use, AND it's source.
 Install the System Kernel AND its source.

Err, you mean the kernel AND the GLX?

 rpmbuild --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-xxx.src.rpm
 goto /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686 and install the new NVIDIA_kernel-xxx.rpm

Confuzed.

 All should be good from there, however you might want to update both
 your NVIDIA_kernel and NVIDIA_GLX to newer versions as well, as 1512 is
 2 (?) versions old?

No, I had 1541 on a previous install.  I've had to reinstall at least 15 
times (more like 20) and those drivers are long gone.  I haven't reinstalled 
ANY of them yet (because I lost the concise step-by-step directions and I'm 
tired of reinstalling because I got a dot where I meant to have a dash which 
was actually an underscore).  I WANT to install 2314 b/c it seems to have 
been out for a while.  I could probbably go with 2313 and never know the 
difference, and I suppose I could get by with 1541 (I only have a TNT so I am 
not all that clear if the newer versions have any more features for me than 
the older ones.  But I assume they might have bugfixes).

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[newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]

2001-12-26 Thread Wes Gregg

 1)Yes you are using the right Kernel. The OS is listed as a 586 because
 Mandrake by default loads a 'safe' Pentium/AMD/mmx kernel.  You can make
 your own kernel with the simple GUI tools built into Mandrake, but

This is as I thought...  But that would be the first thing I've gotten right 
in a month of trying.

 compiling an AMD Athlon specific kernel has been known to cause problems. 

I've also been seeing hints that the Athlons (rather the mobos they go in) 
might not be the best for an install and forget it Linux.  SIGH

 This is NOT a Linux problem.  Some motherboard makers skimp here and there

As I've noticed myself.  I've actually cured a lot of my ills by upgrading 
the bios on my KA7 to current.

 which can cause 'noise' problems.  Feel free to experiment, but I would
 stick with the default kernel for now.

My wife saw that and told me I've done more than enough experimenting on 
this desktop.  She has been waiting since 12/02/01 to actually use Linux.

 2) Your X_Free version is fine.

Good.  Reassuring.  Thanks.

 3) You need to download these files: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz AND
 NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm.  You do not need the source file.  You can
 also download the Mandrake RPM files, but I have found that doing a 'make'
 using the above files has worked better for me.

What about 2314?  It is only avail in source, but has been up for a while 
now I think.  I actually have the following files on my system (some in Linux 
since I've reinstalled, and some I actually thought to download in Windows 
partition - they may not be the right ones though) in no particular order:
NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm
NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2313.mdk81up.i686.rpm
NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.src.rpm
NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.tar.gz
NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.src.rpm
NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz

 Follow the directions on page 22 of the nVidia instruction PDF to install
 the drivers.

I think this is where I got so very confused.  I have these files in a 
directory (/home/wes/NVIDIAfiles) but I can move them to another directory if 
I need to.

  Then follow the instructions on the PDF on pages 22-23 to
 edit the X-Free config file.

I remember (more or less) doing the config editing when I did the 1541 
drivers in a previouse Mandrake install (all the installs I've done this 
month are really running together.  Just an aside, I ran Windows 3.1 for 7 
years with no reinstall.  Lucky I guess.  Being to simple to run most virus 
programs probbably saved my butt there though.

 The latest nVidia driver version is 1.0-2313.  I haven't tried it yet as I
 have been out of town for the past 3 months.  It is probably ok.  I haven't
 heard of any problems with it.

I've nosed around on nVidia's Linux (etc) forums, lots of people having lots 
of trouble with all of them.  I guess a lot of the people are like me (ie, 
most problems are operator error) but still some seem knowledgable.  I think 
some of the settings in the newer versions have to be tweaked for the 
nicer/newer cards.  Plus like you mentioned, AMD  their mobo's have issues 
with this OS.  I am getting the idea that that is causing a lot of the nVidia 
drivers' problems (for people running single or multi AMD cpus that is).

Of course _I_ have an AMD cpu (the old model 650 mHz Athlon).  I am 
remaining cautiously optimistic.  I've thought about going back to the 1541's 
but I can't recall how I installed them and some have issues with them as 
well.  I thought I'd try the newer ones first.

 Feel free to e-mail me if you have any additional questions.

Done and done.  I sure hope you don't come to regret saying that.

But thanks in any case,
Wes Gregg
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Re: [newbie] scanners

2001-12-26 Thread Bryan Tyson

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 09:00, Scott wrote:

 I've got some Christmas dough burning a hole in my pocket.  Can
 someone suggest a good, reasonably-priced scanner that will work well
 in Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1?

I can enthusiastically recommend the Epson 1200U, a USB scanner that 
works well with SANE and gives great scans. This scanner is 
easy to get working in Linux. As a general rule, Epsons are known for 
being easy to set up in Linux. You should still check the SANE page to 
make sure you have a model that is known to work.

Some useful documents:

http://www.mostang.com/sane/

http://www.freecolormanagement.com/sane/index.html (Epson backend info)

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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

2001-12-26 Thread Grant Fraser

Well you know why Moses spent 40 years wandering through the desert?




Even back them men wouldnt stop and ask for directions.





On Wednesday 26 December 2001 04:33, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 December 2001 17:26, Mark Weaver wrote:
 |  -
 |  If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
 |  the first time!

 yeah... what is it with men?  ; )

 I have to bite my tongue (daily I swear) so as not to say I told you so
 or if only you'd listen! grin

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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Ed Kasky

We tried runlevel 1 but the file system for hda1 gets mounted as read only 
for some reaon

How does one get around that?

Ed

At 03:45 PM Wednesday, 12/26/2001, Mark Weaver wrote -=
have you tried going in at runlevel #1, umount the partition where ps 
lives and tried deleting it that way?

Ed Kasky
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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Russ Kepler

On Wednesday 26 December 2001 12:47 pm, you wrote:
 This particular server is running RH 6.  They changed /bin/ps to something
 that is totally different than what we had on there before and created a
 hard link so that it can't be deleted or updated until we find the hard
 link.  My question is how do I trace this link so I can delete it, and then
 reinstall the rpm

Get the inum of /bin/ps using 'ls -i' and then find it using 'find / -mount 
-inum number -print'.  



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[newbie] hotmail

2001-12-26 Thread chris swain



I am trying to set up a hotmail account but neither konqueror or netscape 
will allow me to enter the hotmail site in order to check my mail. (they let 
me set up an account just fine) Is this just a MS anti linux thing or am I 
doing something wrong?

Also is it possible to have Kmail check and download mail from the hotmail 
server so I dont have to go to their website.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Limewire and java-VM

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:47:24 +0100
Michael Dannhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I try to install 'Limewire' on my LM 8.1.
 
 There I get this message:
 
 # sh LimeWireLinux.bin
 Preparing to install...
 Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
 Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
 No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
 environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
 running this program.
 
 
 I downloaded jre1.3.1 from sun and installed it with rpm -i .
 
 Who could me help to set up 'jre' in a correct way?
 

snip

im using the java sdk but the principle is the same so this might work but your 
mileage might vary.


issue rpm -ql on the jre package to get a list of all files installed in your system. 
take note of the directories named /usr/../bin and /usr/../lib.

now add the path of the bin to your PATH. i usually add it to the $HOME/.bashrc but i 
always get 'corrected' that the correct place to put it is in the $HOME/.bash_profile 
so i have this in my .bash_profile


export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.3.1/
export CLASSPATH=.:$JAVA_HOME/lib
PATH=$OLDPATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin
export PATH

you can substitute the jre directory as the value contained in JAVA_HOME. there are 
some instances (especially with older jre and sdk) when you have to specify in the 
classpath the zipped class file. if that is the case just look into the lib directory 
for classes.zip (version 1.1.x)or tools.jar (1.2.x or greater) and add it to the 
classpath.

export CLASSPATH=.:$JAVA_HOME/lib/classes.zip  #replace with tools.jar if it is what 
you have.


give the list a holler if things are still not going right for you.

ciao!


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Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:17:12 -0800
Grant Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 Well you know why Moses spent 40 years wandering through the desert?
 
 
 
 
 Even back them men wouldnt stop and ask for directions.
 
 

well...I'm speachless. I can't believe some of the other guys on this list don't 
actually know the answer to this question. I've known the answer to this question for 
quite a long time.

the reason guys don't ask for directions is because it's in our genes to hunt and 
gather. it's the thrill of the hunt, for cryin out loud. womenfolk just took 
advantage of this knowledge early on one day when one of their husbands appeared to 
not know where he was going when actually all he was doing was just enjoying the 
hunt!

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If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do
the first time!

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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:28:54 -0700
Charles Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 
 Not being a great command line user, but not too afraid of DOS, I would like 
 to try using FIPS if it might do it. I looked at it on the first cd of 
 Mandrake while in windows and it cautioned that it needs to be run in DOS. 
 With what little I know of DOS, I tried to call it up from the cd in DOS 
 without luck. Can anyone give me more specific instructions on how to use it?
 
 

why not just use diskdrake to repartition the drive? You can do this during an 
install process when you've booted from the Mandrake install CD. I've found this 
method to be quite easy and quick. Especially when dealing with badly behaved 
partitions that just don't seem to want to do what you want them to do.

fdisk is out of the question because it's just not powerful enough. If you're 
considering using FIPS then the situation warrents the use of something powerful. 
diskdrake definately fits here and allows for much more control then FIPS.

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Re: [newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:04:29 -0800
E Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but they
 have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see how this
 would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked around in the
 User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see anything pertaining to
 what I need to do. I know it will be a simple thing to do (I would rather
 learn how to do it in shell) but I am stumped.
 
 Thanks in advance if you can help,
 Mithrilhall
 
 =Mithrilhall=
 Linux - Mandrake 8.1
 AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz
  File Server
 FTP Server
Web Server
 =
 
 
 
 

hi,

  do the users have to share a common space like a public directory for storing files? 
or are they restricted to their own home directories? im asking this because i run a 
proftpd server here in the local office network and there is an option in the proftpd 
configuration named DefaultRoot which limits the users to a certain directory. there 
are a slew of options in the readme that comes with proftpd so it is a recommended 
read.

  and i assume you will get all the notes that say ftp is bad because is transmits 
'clear-text' passwords which is easily caught by spoofers so try the ssh variety 
instead. in my case im running a personal server in a secure environment so ftp works 
enough for my needs.

HTH


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Re: [newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:50:44 +1300
skinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 On Tuesday 25 December 2001 12:04, E Estes wrote:
 |  I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but
 | they have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see
 | how this would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked
 | around in the User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see
 | anything pertaining to what I need to do. I know it will be a simple
 | thing to do (I would rather learn how to do it in shell) but I am
 | stumped.
 |
 
 I know nothing about servers but perhaps the same principle applies as 
 with any directory or file:  In the Mandrake documentation  Reference 
 Manual   Chapter 3 - Introduction to the Command Line  3.2.2 chmod: 
 Changing Permissions on Files and Directories
 
 Thats where I learned about dir/file permissions.  There is also man chmod 
 and info chmod.  HTH
 

first of all, if you're setting up an FTP server I would strongly recommend using 
Proftpd. It comes with the Mandrake d/l CD's, however you can use wu-ftpd if you so 
desire.

to allow for anonymous users to upload you have to set things up in a specific manner. 
all the docs you need come with either package. at this URL
-- http://www.wu-ftpd.org/HOWTO/ there are some good docs that will get you all setup 
and going for wu-ftpd. For anon uploading pay particular attention to Upload 
Configuration HOWTO -- http://www.wu-ftpd.org/HOWTO/upload.configuration.HOWTO

if you're going to use ProFTPd then here's where you wanna go 
-- http://www.proftpd.org/docs/

Once you've decided which server you wish to use and you need more help just holler. 
there are quite a few here including myself that have setup one or both of these and 
are currently using one of these two servers.

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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:34:47 -0800
Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 We tried runlevel 1 but the file system for hda1 gets mounted as read only 
 for some reaon
 
 How does one get around that?
 
 Ed
 
 At 03:45 PM Wednesday, 12/26/2001, Mark Weaver wrote -=
 have you tried going in at runlevel #1, umount the partition where ps 
 lives and tried deleting it that way?
 
 Ed

Ed,

At this point I would boot the install CD. when the startup screen appears choose F1 
and then type rescue. When everything has loaded and is running you will cd to 
/mnt/bin, then rm -vf ps and that should take care of the problem.

Then reboot the machine and log in as root. INstall the package for ps and that is 
that as they say.

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Re: [newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:20:30 -0500
Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:04:29 -0800
 E Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but they
  have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see how this
  would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked around in the
  User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see anything pertaining to
  what I need to do. I know it will be a simple thing to do (I would rather
  learn how to do it in shell) but I am stumped.
  
  Thanks in advance if you can help,
  Mithrilhall
  
 
 hi,
 
   do the users have to share a common space like a public directory for storing 
files? or are they restricted to their own home directories? im asking this because i 
run a proftpd server here in the local office network and there is an option in the 
proftpd configuration named DefaultRoot which limits the users to a certain 
directory. there are a slew of options in the readme that comes with proftpd so it is 
a recommended read.
 
   and i assume you will get all the notes that say ftp is bad because is transmits 
'clear-text' passwords which is easily caught by spoofers so try the ssh variety 
instead. in my case im running a personal server in a secure environment so ftp works 
enough for my needs.
 
 HTH
 
 
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forgot to mention that if you are not allowing anonymous log-in then quota could be 
useful to you to limit the space allowed per user.

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Re: [newbie] Question about directory and file permissions

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:28:52 -0500
Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:20:30 -0500
 Anuerin G.  Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:04:29 -0800
  E Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I am in the process of setting up a ftp server for anonymous users but they
   have the ability to delete files and/or directories. You can see how this
   would be bad if a malicious user logged on to it. I looked around in the
   User Manager, Userconf, and Userdrake and didn't see anything pertaining to
   what I need to do. I know it will be a simple thing to do (I would rather
   learn how to do it in shell) but I am stumped.
   
   Thanks in advance if you can help,
   Mithrilhall
   
  
  hi,
  
do the users have to share a common space like a public directory for storing 
files? or are they restricted to their own home directories? im asking this because i 
run a proftpd server here in the local office network and there is an option in the 
proftpd configuration named DefaultRoot which limits the users to a certain 
directory. there are a slew of options in the readme that comes with proftpd so it is 
a recommended read.
  
and i assume you will get all the notes that say ftp is bad because is transmits 
'clear-text' passwords which is easily caught by spoofers so try the ssh variety 
instead. in my case im running a personal server in a secure environment so ftp works 
enough for my needs.
  
  HTH
  
  
  -- 
  
 
 
 forgot to mention that if you are not allowing anonymous log-in then quota could be 
useful to you to limit the space allowed per user.
 
 ciao!
 
 -- 

that is esentially the idea behind the way Proftpd setup uses to secure the FTP server 
filesystem. for more on this check out one of the proftpd.virtual.conf configurations. 
their examples that come with the Proftpd package give excellant samples of ways to 
configure the server.

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[newbie] /dev/sequencer busy?

2001-12-26 Thread David Reynolds

I've not really tackled the problem of my sound card not working since my 
computer started yet, because there were other priorities. However tis the 
holiday season and my ecards gave me another clue as to what's going on while 
trying to play a midi file.
Couldn't open /dev/sequencer
Probably there is another program already using it

I've never gotten a peep of sound, except for the computer default beep. Not 
as root, or my user login. Not with a midi, wav, or mp3. The sound settings 
appear to be on, nothing happens. This is the first time I've actually seen 
an 'error' message out of it.

In KDE COntrol Center, there would appear to be no MIDI device selected, and 
the aRTs soundserver is selected to begin on startup of KDE. Under 
Information, no information is available about the soundcard. 

As far as HardDrake is concerned, it calls my sound card VIA Technologies 
VT82C686 (Apollo Super  AC97/Audio). A possible problem seems to be under 
Other Devices (?), where three other VIA Technologies devices are listed. 
Unknown device ID 11060305, Unknown device ID 11060305 again, and another 
copy of what's listed under soundcard, except it's labeled Apollo Super 
ACPI.

What the heck happened here? I'm not yet clear how much was screwed up by the 
guy who installed this for me, and how much is inherent Linux difficulties.

TIA,
David Reynolds
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3 logo

2001-12-26 Thread Webmaster

Thanks.  I knew someone here would have a suggestion.

LPH

On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 14:50, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Monday 24 December 2001 02:15 pm, LPH wrote:
  When KDE 3 starts up there is a really nice set of images.  Where
  are these images located?  I was looking in /opt/kde3 ... but
  couldn't find the opening set of images.  Anyone else tried to
  look?
 
Ok, I used  Applications | File Tools | Find Files ... set it to 
 search /opt/kde3/  and told it to look for *.png.  Came back with a 
 sh!+load, mostly in /opt/kde3/share/various dirs. Might want'a 
 start poke'n around there. Gqview would be a good tool.
 
I wasn't too impressed with KDE3, and didn't think beta1 is 
 worth the too many minor bug hassles to use on a daily basis. I 
 didn't like the new eye candy all that much either. Back to 2.2.2 for 
 me. I guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy ;
 
BTW, I found if you spend too much time in kde3, you're probly 
 gonna need to --force --nodeps back in kde 2.2.x rpms, reset some 
 things in kde2 apps (like kmail) as kde 3 is gonna corrupt some kde2 
 stuff and configs, even tho you (like I did), put it in /opt.





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Re: Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

On a day-to-day basis, if you want to have a working economy, where
people can support themselves then, for sure, it makes more sense to
compensate labor and effort which can be attributed. In other words, pay
the programmers who create programs.

The compensation to society for providing the environment is paid in taxes.

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

Doug Lerner wrote:
 There is a huge difference between an idea and an instance of putting the
 idea to use.

And which is more valuable, or more worthy of being compensated (for)?

Randy Kramer

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[newbie] Kmail spell check

2001-12-26 Thread L.V.Gandhi

I am working in Mandrake 8.1
I have configured Kmail Settings, Spellchecker  with client aspell, dic 
default English british and encoding US-ASCII. But when I do spell check 
using icon on tools bar or menu I get msg as

ISpell couldn't be started.
Please make sure you have ispell properly configure and in your path.

aspell is in path and installed.
How to get it working.
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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner



[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:17 pm, Doug Lerner wrote:

What do people think about free vs commercial software in general?
I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a
company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a
great, loyal customer base.

Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software
supported and updated?

doug


Well the analogy of the clay pot may not be good at all.  Consider this--

I make a clay pot, and I fire it and I go to a lawyer and show him the 
product and get him to draft a patent so that no one else can glaze clay 
pots or decorate them in any way without paying me royalties.  I file 
the patent and use the proceeds from my clay pots to threaten to keep 
anyone else who fires clay pots in court for years of ruinous spending 
battling my army of lawyers unless they pay me ransom for protection 
against lawsuit.

I believe that patent law requires more than just something new. It has
to be something that is not obvious too. 

Let me ask the opposite question. Suppose a drug company takes hundreds
of millions of dollars from thousands of investors and uses the money for
research and creates a drug that improves the daily lives of millions of
people. Do the people who invested in the enterprise deserve to profit
from this? Or should anybody be allowed to come along and make generic
copies of the drug without bothering to invest in time and effort to do
the research?


The problem does not rest with Intellectual property but with 
application which has definitely become a reductio ad absurdem. 
 Non-productive drones feast off the efforts of the workers, the 
software writers, and squelch creativity.  This is the reality and it is 
why anything I write is GPL.

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

2001-12-26 Thread Jesse Angell

i personally think that x windows is a complete ram hog.. As a 166mhz 32ram cannot run 
it...

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[newbie] normal user can't browse internet

2001-12-26 Thread Erylon

This isn't strictly mdk related, but I'll ask anyhow.  I was given an old P90 
with 32megs and I tried mdk 7.1, but it was waaay slow, so I installed RH6.0. 
 With RH, it's a reasonably snappy little box, but I do have a problem.  I 
can connect to my isp fine, and browse with Netscape as root (bad idea, I 
know), but I can't get anywhere as user--netscape gives me can't find 
server and Opera gives basically the same message after timing out looking 
up hostname.  I did chmod 644 on my /etc/resolv.conf and have search 
myLAN myISP_name and also have my nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  IP 
defined.

It definitely looks like a permissions problem, but I'm lost at where to go 
from here, since I don't really know RH or its defaults, and the RH website 
has everything but the info I need.  

Yes, I like Mandrake better, but I don't have an older version that will work 
well on that machine.  Thanks for the help, in advance.

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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

Actually, since I need to run Windows rarely, what I think I'll do is
delete the second partition containing Win 2000 and use it for Linux. Is
that easy to accomplish? Then I'll just run Windows when I need it under
Virtual PC on my Mac.

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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner


There is nothing wrong with being nice about it and including a warning,
is there? It seems like something that might happen fairly often.

doug

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:12:52 -0800 (PST)
Ken Nowack [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 No, the issue is that win2k/NT *has* to be on the
 first partition on the drive or it won't load.
 

_thats_ been a known issue with NT forever. Most familiar with NT already
know this so it's really a non-issue. However, those never having dealt
with NT before and being new to Win2K very well might not know this and
would likely run into this difficulty.

So, I wouldn't think it would be the responsibility if the Mandrake
documentation people/process to advise or inform folks that there will be
problems _if_ windows isn't, in this situation, the first OS on the
drive. This is a matter of knowing your current OS and it's needs and
compatability issues _before_ making major changes to the existing system.

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[newbie] Mandrake support

2001-12-26 Thread L.V.Gandhi

I have purchased mandrake powerpack 8.1. I got registered also.
I did login. and started creating an incident. I am not sure what is the 
title? I typed one for power pack i got the next screen saying that I don't 
own any unit. I typed my user name. Then also same how to roceed to use the 
mandrake expert during this period. Validity exist upto 25/2/2
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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:02:20 +0900
Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 Well, I didn't mention responsibility or anything like that. :-)
 
 But since the Mandrake online information *does* say that you can
 continue to use your old OS on the same machine, it would be a good idea
 to give a word or two of caution at this important step in the
 installation process.
 
 doug
 
 

yes...i see your point. it would at that.

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Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

Is there a way of removing the Windows partition and then just adding the
reclaimed space to the already existing /home partition?

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

Doug Lerner wrote:

Actually, since I need to run Windows rarely, what I think I'll do is
delete the second partition containing Win 2000 and use it for Linux. Is
that easy to accomplish? Then I'll just run Windows when I need it under
Virtual PC on my Mac.

doug

Sounds like a plan ;-)

Yep, just go to control center

And choose HardwareMountPoints

which will bring up diskdrake

click on the winpartition, click on unmount if ti is mounted.  Change 
the type to linux native or to XFS or whatever you prefer like ext3 or 
JFS or Reiser...  then click format to make it whatever, then select a 
mount point --whatever you want to name it

If for example you decide you want a separate partition for the /home 
directory, just make the mount point /spare and mount it then exit.

then run cp -a /home/* /spare

and then bring up diskdrake again, unmount /spare, change the mount 
point to /home and exit without mounting it

still as root in a terminal

rm -r /home -f
mount /home

will destroy the old home directory and reclaim the space and then make 
the new /home directory available.

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[newbie] segmentation faults 8.1-gamimg edition

2001-12-26 Thread lee

Hi Folks,

Just what is a segmentation fault ? And why would it tell me seems like 
memory is missing

Lee





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Re: [newbie] SSHD not running

2001-12-26 Thread Michael Viron

More specifically,

Make sure that openssh, openssh-clients, and openssh-server are installed.
The openssh-askpass and openssh-askpass-gnome packages don't need to be
installed unless you want to tunnel an X display via your ssh connection.

Michael

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At 11:10 PM 12/26/2001 -0500, you wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:14:27 -0500
Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

 I just re-installed Mandrake 8.1 and found that SSHD didn't get installed.
 
 When installing, what module do I need to include to have it install?
 
 If I want to add it.. do I download OPENSSH RPM?
 
 Thanks
 
 -Allen May
 

Alan,

install all the openssh packages from your install Cd's and you're good to
go.

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Re: [newbie] Unable to read partition table

2001-12-26 Thread Michael Viron

Is this as a user or as root that you can't access your CDRW?  Are you
trying to burn something or mount a CD?

The more info (like the above) that we have, the more likely that someone
on the list will have an idea as to what's going on.

Michael

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At 04:46 AM 12/27/2000 +, you wrote:
Hi all

I have installed Mandrake 8.1. When it boots it sends the folowing message:
LDM:Unable to read partition table. After all it boots, but i don't have 
access to my CDRW.
Can anyone help me? What can i do?
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] segmentation faults 8.1-gamimg edition

2001-12-26 Thread lee

Well I'm gonna answer my own post..lol. Seems to be a hardware prob 
perhaps..or a memory timing ? I think I've got it fixed..maybe. Switched the 
drive to another box,diff motherboard..same bios tho..with the same settings 
even..all the way thru. Not quite sure what went on today,but I spent all day 
doing it..lol.

hava great week all :-)

Lee





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 Just what is a segmentation fault ? And why would it tell me seems like
 memory is missing

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Re: [newbie] hotmail

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 04:06:39 +
Damian G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well, i use this account from linux just fine, however, i did not create 
 this account from linux.
 
 BTW, i'm pretty sure there is some anti-linux stuff in here. the only way i 
 can delete a complete page of message ( by pressing select all )
 just selects the first one, and i have to select manually the remaining 
 49... i figure Billy thinks that Java is not right the way it is and is 
 thinking about making his own super-exclusive-proprietary version ;oP
 
 when this started to happen, i immediately started looking some
 other mail account, somewhere else.. i only use this one for this mailing 
 list now.. so i delete few emails.. ( someday i'll take the time and 
 subscribe to this list from somewhere else.. )
 
 ( HINT!  . WHY hotmail??   ;oP )
 
 see ya!
 

i would suggest softhome.net. i use it for my home accounts. their smtp has some 
trouble recently but you could just use your isp's mail server as that would be 
quicker and more efficient.

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[newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? 

Thanks, 

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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, tester wrote:

Civileme!

Isn't possible that using a third party program (like Norton System Works)
the windows swap file is located at the end of the disk?

This happened to me once! I had to use the 'original' defrag [sorry
I forgot the real name!] from MS (I know that defrag was bought from
Norton!).

Ricardo Castanho


This one means that a windows program has placed a non-relocatable
cluster near the end of the disk or that you are using the NTFS
filesystem which we do not write-enable in the install kernel.

SInce you are running 98 which does not support NTFS, do the disk defrag
and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom you will find one
or more red-marked clusters.

The solution is non-trivial,  Either remove programs one by one and
defrag and try linux after each such removal or install linux on another
large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your windows data over (but not
your installed programs), then scrub windows and go back to fdisk and
set up windows on a smaller primary partition, reinstalling software
then set up linux again on the primary master drive and mount the second
drive to restore the data you wanted to back up.  I have done this in
another situation--a rather full 10G disk where Win98 was installed and
the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and keyboard (both
Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the process.  I could not
shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the 2.2G of data he
wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a linux install on it,
then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the info he wanted.
 The clean install of XP still could not see his mouse or keyboard, so
he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days, and he seems very
grateful that linux was able to save his data from an otherwise trashed
situation.

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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:01:18 +0900
Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
 that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Doug Lerner, Tokyo
 

yes there is, its called FreeWNN and i think its somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd CD (the 
japanese locales is in the 3rd CD). how to make it work, i still do not know. there is 
no accompanying docu for the rpm and the website is in japanese. im still trying to 
figure it out as my nihongo is not that good ( i just took JLPT level 4 and i dont 
know if ill pass ;-). you will also need a terminal that is unicode-aware and the 
installation CD has kterm but it sucks.

there was an article in the mandrakeforum.com related to this but i havent really read 
it yet.

if you have made any success ill be grateful if you could give me some pointers even 
if privately.

domo arigato gozaimasu.

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Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:04:47 -0800 (PST)
Jesse Angell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i personally think that x windows is a complete ram hog.. As a 166mhz 32ram cannot 
run it...
 
 

what version of Mandrake are you using? it is stated somewhere in the mandrake site 
that the recommended minimum for 8.1 is 64MB. if you have older CPUs then it would 
also be logical to use lightweight window managers like  blackbox, xfce or anything 
like it and stay away from desktop managers like KDE and GNOME as these are the really 
cpu intensive apps.


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Re: [newbie] segmentation faults 8.1-gamimg edition

2001-12-26 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz

On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:59:22 -0500
lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 Just what is a segmentation fault ? And why would it tell me seems like 
 memory is missing
 
 Lee
 
 
 
 
 


plainly said , a segmentation fault occurs when a program accesses a memory space 
which it is not supposed to. this is usually due to the programming wherein the 
programmer has not anticipated a circumstances and hasnt safeguarded his code 
correctly for this kind of thing. this can also be caused by the hardware (not so 
quite often) but i cannot give you any concrete examples so i pass that privilege to 
those more knowledgeable than me.

ciao!

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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread tester

Doug Lerner wrote:

Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? 

Thanks, 

Doug Lerner, Tokyo



H


well since you have one partition open where win2k was, try searching on 
Two Mandrake at www.mandrakeforum.com and set up a second mandrake 
system and choose to _install_ in Japanese.  Also, the install usually 
permits additional languages--there is no specific kit, just additional 
languages that may be chosen.

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Re: [newbie] System attack Recovery Question

2001-12-26 Thread Ed Kasky

At 08:26 PM Wednesday, 12/26/2001, daRcmaTTeR wrote -=
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:34:47 -0800
Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder:

  We tried runlevel 1 but the file system for hda1 gets mounted as read only
  for some reaon
 
  How does one get around that?
 
  Ed
 
  At 03:45 PM Wednesday, 12/26/2001, Mark Weaver wrote -=
  have you tried going in at runlevel #1, umount the partition where ps
  lives and tried deleting it that way?
 
  Ed

Ed,

At this point I would boot the install CD. when the startup screen appears 
choose F1 and then type rescue. When everything has loaded and is 
running you will cd to /mnt/bin, then rm -vf ps and that should take care 
of the problem.

Then reboot the machine and log in as root. INstall the package for ps and 
that is that as they say.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.  Luckily, having a recent backup I 
didn't have to resort to a re-install

But I did learn something new about file attributes in fs2 though.  It 
seems that ps was set with the immutable attribute - hence not deletable or 
writable or even changeable without first resetting the attribute with chattr.

 From the man page for chattr:

A  file with the `i' attribute cannot be modified: it cannot be deleted or 
renamed, no link can be created to this file and no data can be written to 
the file. Only the superuser  can set or clear this attribute.

Once we cleared all the atributes, we deleted the offending programs and 
re-installed procps.  They had changed just about every tool one would use 
to monitor activity including ps, netstat, w, who and a few others...

That was no fun...

Thanks again for the help!!!

Ed
Ed Kasky
Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread tek1

hi all.

i'm also trying to figure out how to get japanese working on my system. 
the main freewnn site is at:

http://www.freewnn.org/ (in japanese),

but they have an english page at:

http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/tomoko-y/biwa/root/wnn_e.html


here are some other links that i've collected, but have yet to really go 
through and try:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/jpninpt.html
http://freekde.org/article.php?sid=5mode=nestedorder=0
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wp7s-mrn/slack80.html (japanese; says 
slackware, but could apply to any distribution, i think)


if one of you has time to try and gets it to work, please let us know!  :)

hope the above links help...

all the best.


p.s.i will try to read through the japanese dox.  i've lived and worked 
in japan for the past 6 years at a japanese systems
 integration firm, and passed level 2 of the jetro business 
japanese exam.  (currently in hometown of philly though).  :)




At 14:17 01/12/27 -0500, you wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:01:18 +0900
Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
  that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Doug Lerner, Tokyo
 

yes there is, its called FreeWNN and i think its somewhere in the 2nd or 
3rd CD (the japanese locales is in the 3rd CD). how to make it work, i 
still do not know. there is no accompanying docu for the rpm and the 
website is in japanese. im still trying to figure it out as my nihongo is 
not that good ( i just took JLPT level 4 and i dont know if ill pass ;-). 
you will also need a terminal that is unicode-aware and the installation 
CD has kterm but it sucks.

there was an article in the mandrakeforum.com related to this but i 
havent really read it yet.

if you have made any success ill be grateful if you could give me some 
pointers even if privately.

domo arigato gozaimasu.

--

Programming, an artform that fights back.

===

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Design Engineer
25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St.,
Ortigas Center, Pasig City,
Philippines 1605

Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75
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Re: [newbie] Spam

2001-12-26 Thread adam.e.willcox.1

I heard a second hand story from someone who had setup a defined list of
people who he could receive e-mail from in his evolution client.  Anyone
whom wasn't on his list would receive an automated warning saying if they
e-mail him again they must pay a 5,000 dollar fine.  Eventually it caught
someone; he took them to court and won just an idea.

Adam


On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Alan Dunford wrote:



 Has anyone had experience with spam filters - I am thinking of those routines
 which will identify spammed messages and send relevant data to the growing
 spam filter servers?   I have  had a cursory look at spamassassin and
 mailscanner but have not got either running successfully.

 Having had this new account for two weeks only, I am now starting to receive
 spam and would like to do my bit to reduce this annoying menace.

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 Regards
 --

 Alan Dunford
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Re: [newbie] is an anti-virus mandatory ?

2001-12-26 Thread tek1

thank you very much!!! :)


At 11:32 01/12/26 -0900, you wrote:
Security levels go as follows

Welcome to Crackers --Level 0  -- no login or password and you are running 
as root
Poor -- No checks and no passwords, user and root are distinct  Level 1
Low -- Suitable for a modicum of security on unconnected computers ... 
Passwords and users are intact but no dynamic checking is done.
Medium--Dynamic security checking is done and you get mail from the msec 
daemon about weak points Suitable for workstations connected to internet
High--checking and correction of some problem areas is done Root login is 
not allowed, no services are started by default  Suitable for most server 
use  Weak passwords not permitted
Paranoid--Level 5--Suitable for DNS and other servers where tunneling 
becomes a possibility.  Most everything has to be run in chroot jails or 
it won't work.

Now for more detail, try

file:/usr/share/doc/msec-0.15

right on your installed system.

Same general rule applies--look for a program name folder in 
/usr/share/doc when you have questions about other software.

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Re: [newbie] drive doesn't want to be partitioned

2001-12-26 Thread tester

Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas wrote:

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, tester wrote:

Civileme!

Isn't possible that using a third party program (like Norton System Works)
the windows swap file is located at the end of the disk?

This happened to me once! I had to use the 'original' defrag [sorry
I forgot the real name!] from MS (I know that defrag was bought from
Norton!).

Ricardo Castanho


This one means that a windows program has placed a non-relocatable
cluster near the end of the disk or that you are using the NTFS
filesystem which we do not write-enable in the install kernel.

SInce you are running 98 which does not support NTFS, do the disk defrag
and scroll down on the full display--near the bottom you will find one
or more red-marked clusters.

The solution is non-trivial,  Either remove programs one by one and
defrag and try linux after each such removal or install linux on another
large disk with a grub boot, copy all of your windows data over (but not
your installed programs), then scrub windows and go back to fdisk and
set up windows on a smaller primary partition, reinstalling software
then set up linux again on the primary master drive and mount the second
drive to restore the data you wanted to back up.  I have done this in
another situation--a rather full 10G disk where Win98 was installed and
the user attempted an XP upgrade, losing mouse and keyboard (both
Microsoft brand hardware products, BTW) in the process.  I could not
shrink the winpartition enough to make room for the 2.2G of data he
wanted to rescue, so I used a second disk and a linux install on it,
then scrubbed the first disk after copyiong over the info he wanted.
The clean install of XP still could not see his mouse or keyboard, so
he is running 98 and Mandrake dual boot these days, and he seems very
grateful that linux was able to save his data from an otherwise trashed
situation.

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Well, I am no expert on windows and I have never used Norton, but 
putting the swap file out there is possibly a way to mess things up. 
 Certainly placing the swap file where there is _guaranteed_ to be a lot 
of stepping is very inefficient, but then most winprogrammers are more 
concerned with just getting something to work cause no one really uses 
all that horsepower under the hood.

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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

I was hping to do Japanese reading and writing without installing a
Japanese OS interface. Every time somebody suggests something like that I
always think, Do they also suggest installing a French OS if they want
to read and write email in French? :-)

I didn't see anything in the installation about additional languages.
Certainly nothing came up during the recommended install. Is there a
way of running the installer again and adding stuff to the existing
installation?

Thanks,

Doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

Doug Lerner wrote:

Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese? 

Thanks, 

Doug Lerner, Tokyo



H


well since you have one partition open where win2k was, try searching on 
Two Mandrake at www.mandrakeforum.com and set up a second mandrake 
system and choose to _install_ in Japanese.  Also, the install usually 
permits additional languages--there is no specific kit, just additional 
languages that may be chosen.

Civileme




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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

Hmm... I just read the Japanese freewnn page, and the Japanese install
instructions. Two comments:

* The page hasn't been updated in over two years. Is that project even
active anymore?

* The installation instructions end with And that is how you install the
server part. Then you need to set the clients to use wnn. I'll post
instructions on how to do that in a few days. But that is it. :-)

doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thursday, December 27, 2001):

hi all.

i'm also trying to figure out how to get japanese working on my system. 
the main freewnn site is at:

http://www.freewnn.org/ (in japanese),

but they have an english page at:

http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/tomoko-y/biwa/root/wnn_e.html


here are some other links that i've collected, but have yet to really go 
through and try:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/jpninpt.html
http://freekde.org/article.php?sid=5mode=nestedorder=0
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wp7s-mrn/slack80.html (japanese; says 
slackware, but could apply to any distribution, i think)


if one of you has time to try and gets it to work, please let us know!  :)

hope the above links help...

all the best.


p.s.i will try to read through the japanese dox.  i've lived and worked 
in japan for the past 6 years at a japanese systems
 integration firm, and passed level 2 of the jetro business 
japanese exam.  (currently in hometown of philly though).  :)




At 14:17 01/12/27 -0500, you wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:01:18 +0900
Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is there something analagous to the Japanese Language Toolkit in MacOS
  that I can install so that I can read and write Japanese?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Doug Lerner, Tokyo
 

yes there is, its called FreeWNN and i think its somewhere in the 2nd or 
3rd CD (the japanese locales is in the 3rd CD). how to make it work, i 
still do not know. there is no accompanying docu for the rpm and the 
website is in japanese. im still trying to figure it out as my nihongo is 
not that good ( i just took JLPT level 4 and i dont know if ill pass ;-). 
you will also need a terminal that is unicode-aware and the installation 
CD has kterm but it sucks.

there was an article in the mandrakeforum.com related to this but i 
havent really read it yet.

if you have made any success ill be grateful if you could give me some 
pointers even if privately.

domo arigato gozaimasu.

--

Programming, an artform that fights back.

===

Anuerin G. Diaz
Design Engineer
25/F Equitable-PCI Tower
ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St.,
Ortigas Center, Pasig City,
Philippines 1605

Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75
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Re: [newbie] Using Japanese?

2001-12-26 Thread Doug Lerner

I did find this page. A lot of steps, but maybe I'll give it a try:

http://www.math.wisc.edu/~stefanss/japanese/index.html

doug





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