Re: [newbie-it] permessi di r/w
Il giornol Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:35:24 +0100 Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: in /etc/fstab c'e` una riga dedicata alla partizione win. Tra le opzioni (auto,defualts,...) aggiungi umask=000 (senza virgolette). Ogni cifra corrisponde ai permessi che _togli_ rispettivamente al proprietario(root che lo monta al boot), al gruppo e agli altri. I valori base sono: read(4), write (2), execute (1) Un 7(4+2+1) corrisponde a toglierli tutti, un 3(2+1) toglie scrittura ed esecuzione,, uno 0 lascia tutti i permessi. cut ho provato la tua soluzione ma nulla è cambiato. C'è di più: se faccio man umask ottengo il seguente output che non riesco ad interpretare: - standard input:14: can't open `bash.1': No such file or directory BASH_BUILTINS(1) BASH_BUILTINS(1) NAME bash, :, ., alias, bg, bind, break, builtin, case, cd, command, continue, declare, dirs, disown, echo, enable, eval, exec, exit, export, fc, fg, for, getopts, hash, help, history, if, jobs, kill, let, local, logout, popd, pushd, pwd, read, readonly, return, set, shift, shopt, source, suspend, test, times, trap, type, typeset, ulimit, umask, unalias, unset, until, wait, while - bash built-in commands, see bash(1) BASH BUILTIN COMMANDS SEE ALSO bash(1), sh(1) Vorrei dare la possibilità all'utente pippo anche di leggere e scrivere su floppy... questa volta ho provato ad inserire l'utente nel gruppo floppy ma non ho ottenuto nessun risultato. Se può servire di seguito riporto il mio /etc/fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Grazie a tutti. -- SkyHeart -another happy Linux user- user #205247
[newbie-it] Installare win98 sul suo spazio..
... Salve a tutti. Ho installato la Mdk8.1 su un bel computerone ed ben conoscendo i miei vicini di studio ho lasciato uno spazio formattato FAT per win98. Solo che adesso mi chiedo: come faccio a spiegare al disco di boot di win98 che deve installare sul pezzo di partizione per lui previsto? Ciao Luigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] Ancora ALSA
21:24, sabato 16 marzo 2002, nicola: Anch'io mi unisco alla richiesta di Tommaso per sapere come caricare i driver oss o alsa. Grazie Nicola Da qualche giorno guardo sempre tra la posta se qualcuno ha delle indicazioni su come passare da OSS a ALSA. Luigi aveva fornito alcune informazioni ed ora in 2 ne aspettavamo altre. Sembra che il sistema ALSA sia l'unico che supporta le schede multicanale, e così, per usare i 4 canali della Soundblaster Live! o realizzare sistemi professionali di spazializzazione del suono con linux diventa obbligatorio questo passaggio. Lavoro in uno studio che realizza allestimenti e ora ho l'occasione unica di portare linux nella parte audio del lavoro. Molti mi consigliano di passare a SUSE dove ALSA è già configurata di default. Qualcuno della lista utilizza ALSA? La domanda principale è se bisogna ricompilare il kernel e la seconda quali sono i passaggi necessari per configurare i moduli. Luigi non parla di compilazione kernel e la documentazione che ho trovato ha vari anni e temo si riferisca ai kernel 2.2. e quindi non è completamente attendibile. Inutile aggiungere che sono alle prime armi col kernel grazie a chiunque risponda, Tommaso Alle 19:22, venerdì 15 marzo 2002, hai scritto: Il 13:29, venerdì 15 marzo 2002, Luigi De Pascale scrisse: io ho usato i due anche insieme (nel senso alcuni moduli ALSA ed alcuni moduli OSS della parte gratuita.). Grazie Luigi della risposta. Comunque essendo moduli basta inserire quelli che vuoi usare. Se non vuoi farlo a mano dai un occhiata al file modules.conf ed sostituisci i moduli oss con quelli alsa. Sono un po' a digiuno riguardo alla sostituzione dei moduli. Se ti va, dammi delle indicazioni passo per passo. Ho per esempio visto che ci sono vari rpm alsa mdk: lib, utils e non i driver. Cosa devo fare? Devo installare i due RPM e poi compilare a parte i driver? Come vedi mi trovo spaesato, anche perchè l'ALSA-HowTo (del 1999) parla di compilazione del kernel. ciao e ancora grazie, Tommaso
Re: [newbie-it] fuso...orario
Ciao, verifica il fuso orario. Probabilmente uno dei due è errato é probabile anche che linux utilizzi l'orario GMT in maniera non corretta compare una domanda a tale proposito in fase d'installazione, ma non saprei dirti una volta installato dove andare a mettere le mani...
Re: [newbie-it] Ancora ALSA
Per chi desiderasse l'history del messaggio lascio sotto i vecchi e-mail altrimenti non si legge piu'. Allora mi dispiace non essere stato piu' rapido ma avevo da lavorare. Il file modules.conf si trova nella directory /etc/ e ci trovi i moduli che vengono montati all'inizio. Con la madrake 8.0 la mia scheda audio funzionava mettendo nel modules.conf le seguenti righe ___Estratto del modules.conf-- # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-es1938 # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss post-install snd-card-es1938 modprobe snd-pcm-oss -- Come vedete ci sono alcuni moduli oss (della parte gratuita) e alcuni alsa. Nella Mdk8.1 la stessa cosa non funziona perche' credo che i moduli alsa siano di una versione difettosa ma vi prego di non credere subito a questa congettura perche' non ho avuto ancora il tempo di verificarla. Effettivamente il sndconfig di SUSE e' meglio di quello di Mandrake. Non so dirti se ci siano svantaggi nel cambiamento. Ciao Luigi On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Tommaso Leddi wrote: 21:24, sabato 16 marzo 2002, nicola: Anch'io mi unisco alla richiesta di Tommaso per sapere come caricare i driver oss o alsa. Grazie Nicola Da qualche giorno guardo sempre tra la posta se qualcuno ha delle indicazioni su come passare da OSS a ALSA. Luigi aveva fornito alcune informazioni ed ora in 2 ne aspettavamo altre. Sembra che il sistema ALSA sia l'unico che supporta le schede multicanale, e così, per usare i 4 canali della Soundblaster Live! o realizzare sistemi professionali di spazializzazione del suono con linux diventa obbligatorio questo passaggio. Lavoro in uno studio che realizza allestimenti e ora ho l'occasione unica di portare linux nella parte audio del lavoro. Molti mi consigliano di passare a SUSE dove ALSA è già configurata di default. Qualcuno della lista utilizza ALSA? La domanda principale è se bisogna ricompilare il kernel e la seconda quali sono i passaggi necessari per configurare i moduli. Luigi non parla di compilazione kernel e la documentazione che ho trovato ha vari anni e temo si riferisca ai kernel 2.2. e quindi non è completamente attendibile. Inutile aggiungere che sono alle prime armi col kernel grazie a chiunque risponda, Tommaso Alle 19:22, venerdì 15 marzo 2002, hai scritto: Il 13:29, venerdì 15 marzo 2002, Luigi De Pascale scrisse: io ho usato i due anche insieme (nel senso alcuni moduli ALSA ed alcuni moduli OSS della parte gratuita.). Grazie Luigi della risposta. Comunque essendo moduli basta inserire quelli che vuoi usare. Se non vuoi farlo a mano dai un occhiata al file modules.conf ed sostituisci i moduli oss con quelli alsa. Sono un po' a digiuno riguardo alla sostituzione dei moduli. Se ti va, dammi delle indicazioni passo per passo. Ho per esempio visto che ci sono vari rpm alsa mdk: lib, utils e non i driver. Cosa devo fare? Devo installare i due RPM e poi compilare a parte i driver? Come vedi mi trovo spaesato, anche perchè l'ALSA-HowTo (del 1999) parla di compilazione del kernel. ciao e ancora grazie, Tommaso -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R: [newbie-it] Installare win98 sul suo spazio..
... Salve a tutti. Ho installato la Mdk8.1 su un bel computerone ed ben conoscendo i miei vicini di studio ho lasciato uno spazio formattato FAT per win98. Solo che adesso mi chiedo: come faccio a spiegare al disco di boot di win98 che deve installare sul pezzo di partizione per lui previsto? Penso che win98 veda solo le partizioni con lui compatibili, cioè quelle fat32. Tutto il resto è come se per lui non esistesse. Il problema sta nell'MBR che lui sovrascrive. Ti servirà un rescue disk per entrare in linux e ripristinare l'MBR che consenta l'accesso anche a Linux. Luca
Re: [newbie-it] Installare win98 sul suo spazio..
Salve, se ricordo bene dall'ultima volta che l'ho fatto win98 dovrebbe trovare quella partizione fat ed installarsi li' senza protestare. Occhio pero' che win98 non ha pieta' per il master boot record : lo cancella ( compreso il lilo od il grub in esso contenuto ). In pratica una volta installato il win98 al reboot compare solo win98 . Bisogna provvedere con un floppy di MDK a ripristinare l' MBR desiderato. ( se pero' si intende avviare linux da floppy ... non si pone problema ). Sperando di non aver detto cose ovvie saluto : Ciao Il 10:39, martedì 19 marzo 2002, Lei hai scritto: ... Salve a tutti. Ho installato la Mdk8.1 su un bel computerone ed ben conoscendo i miei vicini di studio ho lasciato uno spazio formattato FAT per win98. Solo che adesso mi chiedo: come faccio a spiegare al disco di boot di win98 che deve installare sul pezzo di partizione per lui previsto? Ciao Luigi
[newbie-it] Urgentissimo
Ho cominciato l'installazione di win98 e lui sta facendo uno scandisk. Lo devo lasciare fare? Aiutooo! Perche' mi sento cosi' poco confortevole? Luigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Adesso corro a scaricarla :-) ciao, Andrea PS non e` indispensabile, ma ieri mi sono iscritto al Mandrake-club
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
non so ma se win98 fa uno scandisk dovrebbe poterlo fare solo sulle partizioni fat Luigi De Pascale wrote: Ho cominciato l'installazione di win98 e lui sta facendo uno scandisk. Lo devo lasciare fare? Aiutooo! Perche' mi sento cosi' poco confortevole? Luigi
Re: [newbie-it] permessi di r/w
Il giornol Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:58:29 +0100 SkyHeart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: scusate correggo, riesco a scrivere sul floppy, ma nn riesco a formattarlo...scusate ancora e ciao!!! -- SkyHeart -another happy Linux user- user #205247
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
Ho cominciato l'installazione di win98 e lui sta facendo uno scandisk. Lo devo lasciare fare? Aiutooo! Perche' mi sento cosi' poco confortevole? Luigi Tranquillo, lo scandisk lo fa tutte le volte che parte l'installazione ex-novo. Comunque lo fa solo, ovviamente, sulla partizione FAT visto che può vedere solo quella. Ciao Marco
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
Ho cominciato l'installazione di win98 contento tu =) e lui sta facendo uno scandisk. Lo devo lasciare fare? lascialo fare, zio bill non sbaglia una mossa! ciao stefano
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
No, dovro aspettere(56k non bastano per scaricare i files iso) Facci sapere! Sono freneticamente ansioso!! :)
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Marco Forti wrote: Ho cominciato l'installazione di win98 e lui sta facendo uno scandisk. Lo devo lasciare fare? Aiutooo! Perche' mi sento cosi' poco confortevole? Luigi Tranquillo, lo scandisk lo fa tutte le volte che parte l'installazione ex-novo. Comunque lo fa solo, ovviamente, sulla partizione FAT visto che può vedere solo quella. Visto che ci siamo, quindi se gli dico che puo' correggere cio' che ha trovato eventualmente danneggiato non puo' fare danni a linux.Giusto? Luigi -- Not all who wander are lost (Tolkien) Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Dipartimento di Matematica Applicata U.Dini Via Bonanno Pisano 25/B, 56126 Pisa, ITALY Tel.: +39/050/844745 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
Visto che ci siamo, quindi se gli dico che puo' correggere cio' che ha trovato eventualmen te danneggiato non puo' fare danni a linux.Giusto? Luigi Direi di no, salvo a LILO o GRUB se li avevi messi sull'MBR ... ma questo l'ha sicuramente già fatto! Del resto non dovrebbe creare danni visto che per lui il disco è la partizione FAT e il resto non esiste. Ciao Marco
[newbie-it] Periferica Hub?
Ciao e scusate ma ad oggi non sono ancora riuscito a sapere come far riconoscere a linux mdk 8.1 lo Hub e di conseguenza nemmeno lo scanner collegato allo hub (una presa con 4 porte usb colegata al pc). Non c'è nessuno che ha mai avuto il mio stesso problema? Qualcuno ha qualche suggerimento su come risolvere questa grana? Grazie in anticipo dell'eventuale risposta ku68
Re: [newbie-it] permessi di r/w
Alle 09:58, martedì 19 marzo 2002, hai scritto: Vorrei dare la possibilità all'utente pippo anche di leggere e scrivere su floppy... questa volta ho provato ad inserire l'utente nel gruppo floppy ma non ho ottenuto nessun risultato. Se può servire di seguito riporto il mio /etc/fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Se ti può essere utile il mio fstab, per quanto riguarda il floppy, riporta oltre alle caratteristiche da te citate, la dizioneumask=0; come utente sono in grado di leggere e scrivere su floppy. Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] Urgentissimo
Visto che ci siamo, quindi se gli dico che puo' correggere cio' che ha trovato eventualmente danneggiato non puo' fare danni a linux.Giusto? Luigi basta che non gli fai correggere i dati nel MBR, la tabella delle partizioni e cose simili, suggerimento valido soprattutto per gli antivirus per il resto finchè sta nella sua partizione può far danni solo a sè stesso
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Andrea Celli wrote: Adesso corro a scaricarla :-) ciao, Andrea PS non e` indispensabile, ma ieri mi sono iscritto al Mandrake-club Puoi dirci che cosa puoi fare come utente registrato. Grazie. PS: Come mai alcune mie mail non appaiono? Avevo annunciato l'arrivo di mdk 8.2 stanotte... ma non vedo la mail. Mah! Ciao.
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Brunini Alessandro wrote: .. Puoi dirci che cosa puoi fare come utente registrato. Grazie. E` una lunga discussione degli ultimi giorni Mandrake in crisi? Teoricamente, scarica qualche pacchetto in piu`. Quindi sul sito, prima di entrare nelle aree di download, ti chiedono se hai aderito o intendi aderire al club. Poi, pero`, non ti bloccano. Essenzialmente, dare un sostegno per la sopravvivenza di Mandrake. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Andrea Celli wrote: E` una lunga discussione degli ultimi giorni Mandrake in crisi? Teoricamente, scarica qualche pacchetto in piu`. Quindi sul sito, prima di entrare nelle aree di download, ti chiedono se hai aderito o intendi aderire al club. Poi, pero`, non ti bloccano. Essenzialmente, dare un sostegno per la sopravvivenza di Mandrake. ciao, andrea Ciao, questo l'avevo capito. La mia curiosità era se fosse possibile scaricare cose tipo WineX di transgaming, l'annunciato StarOffice 6.0 et similia. Grazie.
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Brunini Alessandro wrote: Ciao, questo l'avevo capito. La mia curiosità era se fosse possibile scaricare cose tipo WineX di transgaming, l'annunciato StarOffice 6.0 et similia. Se il produttore originale chiede soldi .. e` difficile che Mandrake possa darti il pacchetto gratis. Comunque, per il momento non ho visto nulla riservato ai soci del club. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] permessi di r/w
Il giornol Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:44:48 +0100 Andrea Celli [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: SkyHeart wrote: Il giornol Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:58:29 +0100 SkyHeart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: scusate correggo, riesco a scrivere sul floppy, ma nn riesco a formattarlo...scusate ancora e ciao!!! nella mndk-8.1 molti problemi relativi a floppy e simili si risolvono aggiungendo nobiospnp tra gli append di lilo o grub. L'avevo già fatto, cmq grazie a tutti. -- SkyHeart -another happy Linux user- user #205247
[newbie-it] firewall
Ciao, vorrei configurare un firewall semplice, semplice (nn ho particolari esigenze..ma vorrei imparare) cosa mi consigliate? link? software? Grazie -- SkyHeart -another happy Linux user- user #205247
Re: [newbie-it] konqueror-netscape-mozilla-galeon
Il lun, 2002-03-18 alle 14:32, Germano ha scritto: Veramente ormai lo standard è Mozilla, tutti si rifanno ad esso (tranne il Netscape della serie 4). Io proverei con Mozilla ma sono gusti In effetti, dovo aver seguito Mozilla negli ultimi due anni nonchè sostenuto di fronte agli scettici ai tempi in cui era pieno di bug (forse perchè Exploder mi andava in crash una volta si e l'altra pure...?), mi sono incollato a Galeon... Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] E` arrivata la 8.2 :-)
Il mar, 2002-03-19 alle 14:00, Asgro][ ha scritto: No, dovro aspettere(56k non bastano per scaricare i files iso) Facci sapere! Sono freneticamente ansioso!! :) Io la 8.1 la scaricai con un 56k... :-))) Okay, preparate la camicia di forza... Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] scheda video savage ed X
Il 00:08, martedì 19 marzo 2002, paolo brusasco ha scritto: Ciao. Sto tentando di installare 8.1 su un pc con scheda video savage e monitor lcd (quelli delle offerte nataslizie della vobis) ed ho problemi con X. non ho installato mdk su quel tipo di macchina, ma credo che il problema sia di xfree e non della mandrakkia, cerca qui per i moduli: http://lhd.zdnet.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?1134 al limite, se proprio non dovessi trovare nessun tipo di supporto, utilizza il framebuffer, per giocare non è il masimo, ma in 2d è pienamente utilizzabile bye miKe __ Slackware 8 GNU/Linux 2.4.18 hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 - S.R.U.#705 - R.M.#110932 --
Re: [newbie-it] firewall
Alle 20:15, martedì 19 marzo 2002, hai scritto: Ciao, vorrei configurare un firewall semplice, semplice (nn ho particolari esigenze..ma vorrei imparare) cosa mi consigliate? link? software? Grazie Manuale, manuale, e ancora manuale (dell'utente). Per una configurazione semplice, parti dal Mandrake Control Center. Per ulteriori approfondimenti gli How-to presenti dovrebbero andarti bene.. Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] Periferica Hub?
Renato wrote: Alle 14:48, marted 19 marzo 2002, hai scritto: cut che hub sti usando viger Boh! In fattura c' solo un Hub e sulla scatola c' un generico per pc e i-mac. Quando l'ho comprato non pensavo ancora d'installare linux. Comunque a suo tempo ho inviato per mail il report come da istruzioni di hardrake e nessuno mi ha risposto. Harddrake segnala che un: Texsas Instruments Model TUSB2040 HUB KERNEL MODULE UNKNOW BUS TYPE USB Grazie dell'interessamento ku68
Re: [newbie] Getting and installing packages
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 23:15, FemmeFatale wrote: You understand my issues Lyvim. And honestly thats sorta what happened to me. :\ I just wanted some apps I knew were buggy to work Damnit. *Sigh* Sowwy! :( Since I was desperate, I decided to go through with it. One of these packages ( I think it was GConf) would not install without breaking some dependencies to the version of GConf installed with LM81. I forced the issue, and fortunately everything is still working flawlessly. Desperate huh? I wasn't quite desperate, just ticked that some apps weren't working as I expected them to. Well...it's an experience. What can you say? I know what you're going thru. But you takes your licks, and you walk away wiser. Can't really put a price on that, can you? Ya well were I not poor I'd subscribe too. :\ Femme That's totally understandable. Heck, that's one of the reasons why this OS is downloadable for free! To help those in need. I've coasted along for some time without any payback; now that I've finally got some breathing room, I am glad to put my hard earned clams where they are the most useful, and where I personally think humanity's best interests are, OS - wise. :) Cheers, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
From a friend of mine who buys comp's parts in the hundreds per month he said, Asus I believe it was Soyo are good. *Not sure on the Soyo* Sorry nothing more specific...but I can ask if you like? Femme Roger Sherman wrote: Hey Terry... Yep, just did that. Stripped it down to the bare motherboard, reseated the CPU, RAM, vid card...reconnected the power switch, reset switch, etc. Then I tried starting it up, with basically nothing but the vid card attatched, and it still exhibited the same boot problem, so I guess I'm in the market for a new motherboard. I saw a couple Asus boards on the AMD recommended list that might do the job. Anyone want to make some recommendations for boards that worked well for them? It needs to be a board recommended for an XP1800, that will accept DDR RAM, and no integrated sound or video... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
*smiles giggles* He said snap upgrade in the same sentence! :) I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes. Sorry just had to comment... Femme 8.2 Final, it is. Hats off to the Mandrake Team. Ya'll never cease to amaze me. Beta4 installed with ease. Should be a snap to upgrade from here..right? Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT,How to zing like the best. RE: Was: How to best support Mandrake
OW ! *zing!* cute Lyvim ;p very nasty Femme Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I find it highly amusing and obvious that while addressing the REAL NEWBIES he is using a Microsoft Outlook Express email client. I.E. : X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I guess this means that there is an echelon that exists *beneath* the REAL NEWBIES. lol L8R LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 22:50, Dennis Myers wrote: Mr. Rigby appears to be in marketing. That says it all. His mind set is for the masses and that is the same Mindset as M$. Feed them BS and as long as it has a pretty bow on it and has been spayed with Deoderant it will sell like hot cakes. Sorry but I am up past my bed time, hard day at work and tired of hearing Sunday quarterbacks say it can't be done. Needs must tell that to companies like Trane and Carrier who have taken the public domain mathematical formulas of thermodynamics and physics and massaged them, turned them into a very servicable product and made a good living for a lot of people that way. Anyone can access the formulas and chemistry, physics etc of the product, making the product is the trick. And IMHO Mandrakesoft is doing a damned fine job of making a product. The competitors had a head start but Mandrakesoft is closing fast. I have watched it mature since 6.0 and wow is it closing fast. Hang tough MandrakeSoft team. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 RAH ! RAH !! (tries out new pep rally routine) lol. :) Best Regards, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IDE CD Burner installation/use?
If I can add to the excellent advice Kaj gives :- 1/ Kaj suggests defining both the CD-RW and the CD-ROM as ide-scsi. It is not strictly necessary for the CD-ROM to be ide-scsi, but it allows front ends to perform disc to disc copy functions. You may find however that your desktop CD icon no longer works. To fix it, right click on the icon PropertiesDevice, and in the device drop down box select /dev/scd0 (or scd1 as appropriate) 2/ You will have trouble using cdburning software as anything other than root unless you create a group called 'cdwriter' and make yourself and any others who need to create CDs members of that group. You then need to give cdwriter group privileges for the following applications (all in /usr/bin) cdrecord cdda2wav cdparanoia mkisofs readcd You can test your cd burner by opening a user terminal and typing cdrecord --scanbus If it finds your CD writer then cd burning should work. HTH derek On Monday 18 March 2002 23:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: snip I've got a LiteOn LTR-12101B IDE CD BURNER installed, but I cannot burn Can someone help by telling me if my /etc/fstab entry is correct, and the command line parameters to use to make the CD burner operate from the command line? /snip Thanks in advance... This has been a frustrating problem! -drew Well -drew, here's my personal how-to : Most - if not all - CD-burners are ATAPI-devices and use the IDE-bus. To make them work under linux, you must fake that they are SCSI-devices. Now, assuming you have connected your hardware correctly, let's take a look at my setup as an example : My CD-Rom (reader/player) is connected as the master on the second IDE-bus (hdc). My CD-WRITER (burner) is connected as the slave on the second IDE-bus (hdd). Accordingly, I had to edit my file : /etc/lilo.conf to make everything work. Here's how it can be done : 1. open a terminal and become root (type su and, when prompted, type your root-password) 2. open a text-editor of your choice (I prefer Midnight Commander - type : mc) 3. go to /etc/lilo.conf and hit F4 to edit that file. 4. here you must make an append-statement (a boot-parameter to linux), like this : image=/boot/vmlinuz label=Linux root=/dev/hda2 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append= hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi devfs=nomount vga=791 read-only # (where hdc is my CD-reader and hdd is my CD-burner (eventually, put in your own configuration)). 5. hit F2 to save this file. 6. hit F10 to exit Midnight Commander 7. still in your terminal-window as root, type : /sbin/lilo (and watch the output). 8. type exit twice. 9. reboot, and you are done ! - (Eventually, you can now check the file /etc/fstab) Enjoy ! A very easy-readable guide on CD-burning : http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/January2002/article227.shtml References : CD Writing Howto: http://linuxdoc.org Linux MP3 CD Burning mini-HOWTO: http://linuxdoc.org (How to make normal audio CDs from mp3 files ) USB CD howto: http://mobilix.org/linux_usb_cd.html Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to Install Alternative Kernel -SOLVED
Thank you both Charles and Derek, that was a piece of cake. Now that I know how it's done I shall have no hesitation in downloading and installing new kernels in the future. I also say , good old linux too. You don't get to install new kernels in the other. Again many thanks John On Monday 18 March 2002 4:00 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:04:32 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently downloaded an updated kernel version 2.4.8-26mdk.rpm which is said to be suited to LM8.1 . How can I install this without overwriting my existing kernel version k2.4.8-19mdk in /boot partition. When I went to install it using RPM package manager I am sure it was going to overwrite so I chose to leave it. I want to install kv2.4.8-16mdk in the same /boot partition as old kernel version and work out a Lilo boot script to boot it.So I bet it isn't that simple ? Can I do this ? cd to the directory to which you downloaded the kernel. Su to root and do: rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.8-16mdk.rpm Using any editor open /etc/lilo.conf Verify that the new kernel image listing was created that the initrd= is correct and that the append options are also correct. If you wish for the new kernel to be the default edit the 4th line of lilo.conf to read default= 248-16 Save the change and exit the editor. From the terminal, still as root, enter: lilo This writes your new lilo and on your next boot you will have the option to boot to either of your installed kernels with the -18 being the default. Just so that you can see one that has been altered several time I have attached a copy of mine. Charles -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ping
Marcia, If you can't ping, then samba is certainly going to have problems. Are you able to post some details of the IP addresses, subnet mask etc. i.e. Give us a feel for how you have things set up? Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 03:32, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I cannot ping my vmware Windows95 guest from my LM8.1. I can ping my Linux from the Windows95, but I cannot reach the machine from Linux. Even so, the networking in Win95 is working well. I can see my machine and do anything with all of my Linux files within the vmware Windows. However I have not been able to get the samba networking going in Linux so that I can see my Windows95 machine and files. I have read and tried so many things in Samba, go rid of Bastille, worked with the /etc/hosts.allow and deny files and more. I do not know why I cannot reach the machine yet. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 2 Linux Computers
Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] stopped jobs
Kill without a signal defaults to asking the process nicely to please quit. If the process is hung it won't. Try reading chapter 9 in RUTE at http://rute.sourceforge.net/rute.html I promise it is worth it. Then try kill -s 9 XXX (yes XXX is the PID). Michael David wrote: Greetings When I attempt to run a kill %PID on a stopped job, nothing happens. I get no error, but a ps x |more shows the job still there. What can I do about this? How can I restart the job again? -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] pan news reader
ed tharp, On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:41, in Re: [newbie] best news reader and ftp client, you wrote: if you wanted a hotter version of a news reader, you sure should try out pan. the commands are a little different, but I loves it... I believe that by itself, it is reason enough to leave windows, for the time you are using a news reader anyway. I am using it for the first time but I cant get the groups in the servers i have set up. I am not sure that i have the settings right but the names are right ... can you post up a good news server settings I can test? -- Walter Logeman Psychotherapist http://www.psybernet.co.nz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.1 cd 3
You can find the individual rpms from cd3 on the ftp servers Try ftp.sunet.se It has 8.2 but does not appear in the download list yet so it is not overloaded. CD3 rpms are here /pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/8.2/contrib/i586 derek On Tuesday 19 March 2002 09:28, Heather Reed wrote: Hi folks Is there anywhere on the net that the 3rd CD can be obtained in bite sized chunks? I have the ISOs for 1 and 2 from a mag cover disk, but the 3rd wasn't included. Is this because it isn't free? I was installing something the other day and software manager asked for it. I've found a complete ISO on the net, but I don't have broadband and the download kept timing out :-(( Heather Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense. In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine. Lanman On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
James, My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the Internet, but not each other. Right? If so, a better setup would be to make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the other a purely local machine. Your gateway machine could also then be the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one. If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen, have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-) HTH Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS
Have you tried bumping up the buffer sizes? This can certainly smooth things out if you have a very peaky load. Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:31, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: The nice scale consists of all the integers running between -20 and 20, inclusive. Lower numbers have a higher priority in the system scheduler. By default, all applications run with a nice value of 0. An ordinary user is able to 'nice' to any value = 0. Anything below zero is only accessible by a root user. This means that an ordinary user who wants to allocate more CPU time to a process must reduce the priority of their other running processes. This system is in place to prevent a user from monopolising system resources. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:22:53 -, FLYNN, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think so - any user can nice their own running tasks so nicer nice values (i.e. any user can say, this program I am running, it's low priority so don't spend too much effort on running it for me) but only root has the power to do the opposite (i.e. lower the nice value to make the scheduler spend more time on this piece of code). -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:58 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject: RE: [newbie] Higher priority for XMMS so there is no way to give a higher priority to the program from within a non-root account? On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 10:36, FLYNN, Steve wrote: You can 'nice' the task, to a lower value to give it more cpu cycles. However, to do so, you will have to be root anyway. It's easy enough to do with the sudo command though... -Original Message- From: Nelson Bartley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:29 PM To: LM Newbie Mailing List Subject:[newbie] Higher priority for XMMS I've got a question.. I've been finding that XMMS is skipping a lot on my system. Not because my system isn't fast, but rather because I've got ALOT of things going on on it. (folding, evolution, gaim, gkrellm, mozilla, kdevelop, gnomeicu, etc...) I was wondering if it were posible to give XMMS a higher priority (like say realtime)? (and yes I realize I can log in as root and run the app, but that is very annoying) NB File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it. -- Governor George W. Bush, Jr. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] System Getting Sluggish
I have another question... Do you think it is possible for Windoze to infect linux across a partition THAT all sounds like a perfectly normal Windoze scenario to me :-) But seriously, many times similar things have turned out to be simple over-heating. Cheapest overhaul in the world! Another BIG fan. Cheers, John - Original Message - From: Damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista de Mailing Linux-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] System Getting Sluggish i may have a penny to add to this thread. but before i start babbling, i have a question for everyone getting a sluggish system after a while. are you all running KDE? see ya. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
Dude... you forgot the link :) NB On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote: James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense. In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine. Lanman On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mandrake 8.1 cd 3
Hi folks Is there anywhere on the net that the 3rd CD can be obtained in bite sized chunks? I have the ISOs for 1 and 2 from a mag cover disk, but the 3rd wasn't included. Is this because it isn't free? I was installing something the other day and software manager asked for it. I've found a complete ISO on the net, but I don't have broadband and the download kept timing out :-(( Heather
RE: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I think Damian is on the right track with the RAM replacement approach. If you could get a known good ram module, you might be able to make some progress in your diagnosis. I assume that your bios is at it's defaults and you haven't make any changes to the processor speeds (overclocking, etc). ? You MB should have a jumper for reseting CMOS to default. Try activating the jumper. On my Soyo Board, I have to remove the power (pull the plug) and activate the jumper for a few seconds. I had to do it a couple of times when I was messing with the Config Settings. -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
I hate it when that happens! Here's the link, dude! http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/ By the way, for those of you who don't know, you can start simplifying your Linux-related searches by using Google's Linux search page; www.google.com/linux - for the rest of you, and,... www.google.ca/linux - for us Canucks. You'll find your Linux stuff much faster! Lanman - Original Message - From: Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LM Newbie Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers Dude... you forgot the link :) NB On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote: James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense. In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine. Lanman On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1
Title: RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:31 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 I've got an ATAPI ZIP drive installed in my Linux-Mandrake system (running on a Celeron 533, 256 megs memory), and it's not working (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel and harddrake reports it as hdd). The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are good. I've got the following in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 When I enter mount /mnt/zip with a known-good ZIP disk in the drive, I get the following: root.drewvogel:/etc$ mount /mnt/zip mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device Dmesg reports it as there: hda: ST36530A, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC26400R, ATA DISK drive hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-152L, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive I'm not sure how to proceed. Can someone help? Hi, take a look at your /etc/mtab, what does that say for the zip drive? Let us know, this is nudging at my memory, seems like I have the answer in my log at home. I'll check tonight if you don't have a solution by then. Dennis M.
RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1
Title: Message Here is my /etc/mtab... I've got no experience with it, so I'm attaching the whole file... /dev/hda1 / ext2 rw 0 0none /proc proc rw 0 0devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0/dev/hda6 /home ext2 rw 0 0/dev/hdb1 /var ext2 rw 0 0/proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0automount(pid1179) /misc autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1179,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0automount(pid1207) /net autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1207,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 -Original Message-From: Myers, Dennis R NWO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:54 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:31 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 I've got an ATAPI ZIP drive installed in my Linux-Mandrake system (running on a Celeron 533, 256 megs memory), and it's not working (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel and harddrake reports it as hdd). The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are good. I've got the following in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 When I enter "mount /mnt/zip" with a known-good ZIP disk in the drive, I get the following: root.drewvogel:/etc$ mount /mnt/zip mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device Dmesg reports it as there: hda: ST36530A, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC26400R, ATA DISK drive hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-152L, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive I'm not sure how to proceed. Can someone help? Hi, take a look at your /etc/mtab, what does that say for the zip drive? Let us know, this is nudging at my memory, seems like I have the answer in my log at home. I'll check tonight if you don't have a solution by then. Dennis M.
[newbie] corrupted boot-urgent help needed
After accidentally updating my kernel (although I knew I shouldn't), I tried to install the original one from the installCDs of 8.1. During that process however, LILO went bad. There was an error reproted about vmlinuz that I don't remember very well now, and setup did not progress any further. To correct (!) the problem, I chose grub instead of lilo, and it seemed to work. At least the setup finished. Then, everything was OK linuxwise; however I can't boot my windows 95 anymore. I tried Webmin, Drakeconf, Linuxconf but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to make it bootable again without loosing the data? Thanks in advance, Hakan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you don't update newer kernels, you _install_ them. Download and rpm -ivh kernelname The name is different so it will install alongside the older kernel and be bootable. Updating usually leaves you with a new kernel and modules compiled for an older one, which is a sad situation. Yeah, I know that. But basically, if I succeed in installing my new kernel-2.4.18 over my default kernel-2.4.8 of Mandrake 8.1, it would also be called an upgrade 'cause I won't use my old kernel anymore. Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /) filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 00:35, FemmeFatale opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: *smiles giggles* He said snap upgrade in the same sentence! :) I don't believe that till I see it with my own eyes. i have to admit, that is my only problem with mandrake, though it effects all distros i have tried. a fresh install _always_ works better than upgrading i am considering upgrading with 8.2 (both the test machine with 8.2 rc1 on it as well as the 8.1 machine) just to see how much damage i can do. ;-) -- We know what we are, but not what we may become -William Shakespeare shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have another suggestion Fix your system time. I am getting letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that) I overlooked this problem. I'm using M$ Win98 when I'm reading and sending e-mails using this account. The rest of my jobs, I use my Mandrake 8.1. Thanks for reminding me. God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 17:26, sda wrote: [snippet] Why are they asking for $ and not emphasizing what the benefits are? Why are they giving away the ISO's for free rather than following SuSE's successful implementation of a preview non-installable iso? If they did this alone, it would cut down on the freeloaders burning the distro and not contributing. Again, there seems to be some unclearness about the nature of free software. Someone who copies, uses or redistributes software is not a freeloader, he/she is a user. If he/she contributes something, such as time, money or code, he/she is a contributor (said Robin, rather tautologically). Even someone who downloads the system, uses it and recommends it to friends is contributing, albeit minimally. There may be people out there who give financial support, write code, document it, and answer questions on mailing lists, but they can probably be counted on your fingers. How many people here actually started their Linux experience by paying for an official distribution (I don't count redistributed CDs from Cheapbytes etc.)? And how many who _did_ earn under $15,000 p.a. (a good wage by world standards, BTW)? Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:26, sda opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 01:11:19PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If they're moving to a subscriber model, then why is it called a club and not a subscription service? BTW are you talking offically and are you an employee of MandrakeSoft? just opinion here, but club not only sounds nicer but is more acurate due to the community building attempt. also you get more out it than if you simply bought eack boxed set. or at least that seems to be the plan. Why are they giving away the ISO's for free rather than following SuSE's successful implementation of a preview non-installable iso? again, just opinion, but while i would like to see a live cd of mandrake, the day that is only way to download a cd from them is the day i leave. suse might earn my respect if it weren't for that. and i have several friends who agree. and for me mandrakes model is a success. i am paying them... If they did this alone, it would cut down on the freeloaders burning the distro and not contributing. Who really cares about the commercial binaries, not many I think. Most come to Mandrake for the ease of installation and ease of setup. That's the selling feature they must concentrate on. while true, and while i really wish places like cheapbytes didn't burn cds and make a killing off of mandrake (and others) hard work, i think the club subscription can partlly combat this. you can still get it free, but the idea you are contributing, for just a few bucks a month, plus get software not on either the downloads or even the box set, is hard to pass up. Yes I guess I was delusional when I bought 5k shares last year. I expect MandrakeSoft to make a profit, sooner rather than later. On track to make a profit means absolutely nothing to me, when I was promised the same thing at the end of 1st quarter 2002. You see I believe in this distro technically, just not sure I can say the same thing about how it runs it's business or executes a somewhat dubuious business plan. short term investing? well i won't get into that discussion, but i hope they do well for your investments too. -- one mans theology is anothers belly laugh -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Thanks... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrakey
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:34, sda opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 10:11:10PM +1000, john rigby wrote: A fellow walked in to the office of a certain astoundingly successful sales organisation and was stunned to learn that the fellow wandering around the plush conference room was the Sales Dept. Concierge. His You listening MandrakeSoft? in the name of all that is good i hope not. salesmen are not like programmers or anything else. salesmen are slimey ppl who get you to spend hard earned cash on something you may or may not need, but they have in stock. in a world where information is freely shared and ppl can form their own _informed_ opinion, salesmen would be useless. salesmen gave us windows, lawyers protect it. both should be shot on site, no questions asked. -- If I admit I was wrong, I am only saying I am wiser today than yesterday. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:12, sda wrote: Well, I don't know what you call a troll where you come from, I've been here for a couple of years [anyway], and I have offered support on these lists from time to time and no, I'm not a troll, thank-you very much. BTW you didn't address my statement re Caldera but only critiqued my tone, seems to me you're more of the troll... Perhaps I didn't address the rest because I agree with it somewhat? Put your thinking cap on man and read on. -- -^- -^- ? ?Steve ^ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' ` I unclog my nose in your general direc-tion! Plus your sig still looks stupid. Feeding the trolls again, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
damn Jon, you are Certainly full of your self. CivilMe is one of those that understand and make the company work. Only a self sold salesman would be so damn blind to the real world to make a statement that the only folks that count are salesman. have you considered that _your_ (and I do mean) Slanted view might be considered very Bourgeois and basicly asinine? being multi-syllabic does not make you intelligent, just windy, and altho that may work in the world o sales, in the world of technicians, it does not wash my shorts. Sales people willingly tell stories about things they have no real Idea about, since their reputation is built on sales, and not on the satisfaction of customers. that is the basic reason we get a different answer to the question of is the product a good one, when you ask the salesman and the technician or mechanic. while it is important for the salesman to have great confidence in his self, the same would be a disaster for a good tech. the same holds true as to why few techs ever make the change to sales. Personal integrity is too important to them to be a BS artists that being a good salesman requires. let me say this from the bottom of my heart, as one of the folks in this world who does create added value everyday to support myself and a number of others, and who is regularly called on to change the salesmans lies to customer satisfaction SALESMEN are Assholes On Tuesday 19 March 2002 07:11, you wrote: Hi Civilme, You ARE a nice competent person in this geeky area, but you are exactly like me floundering around out in the bog of open source/sauce when it comes to the real world. Re your points below. They are lovely. They are unreal. They didn't work for Concurrent Dos, or Amiga, or RedHat or anyone else before and they don't work now. The case isn't for pontification, but elucidation and it is a simple question of actuality. This is the real world. It is made up of numbers. Your points: 1. Makes no sense. You've never been invited inside Redmond obviously. There are always a few key people that make a corporation go. Very few. In a thousand employees, maybe 20 to 30 are extremely valuable. Not irreplaceable - simply valuable. You may be confusing esprit de corp? You ought to see how people fire up when the money rolls in! Talk to the hungries on the outside at Redmond looking in at the salaried/optioned inner ring. Redmond only need to run ads to satisfy the weird laws of discrimination. You ought to get in between two linux opponents! Say a SUSE fanatic and a Mandrake one! I did it was reminiscent of my last trip to Ireland! 2. Wouldn't happen. Show those people who are useful some appreciation ($) and it is amazing what happens. My professional trick for years in turning around sick companies was always the same simple routine - and nobody ever noticed. Here it is free, now that I'm retired :_) First I spent money on the staff amenities. Paint, repair potholes in the staff parking lot. Gave hefty increases to ANY positive and apparently useful staff . Arranged TOTAL staff Sales Training. Turned everyone into salespeople - the only CRITICAL people in any organisation. Unless the product was dead, dead, it worked every time. I used to have my people do an MLM-type pitch to the people. It was a lot of fun. Saved an awful lot of jobs. RedHat is downsizing, too. 3. I wouldn't do it! I finally got clever in my old age and the one part of ANY industry I would never do anything in, is the cheap end. I don't believe in selling suitcases for $6, I'd rather sell Louis Viton valises for $6,000. But if, if I did and I offered 5 year contracts at a decent living wage to to the few people I'd want, there would be no shortage of applicants, THAT I can assure you. It would only be competent ones that would be in short supply - as always. One last odd true story from the real world. Then I'm bowing out of this to wait and see... A fellow walked in to the office of a certain astoundingly successful sales organisation and was stunned to learn that the fellow wandering around the plush conference room was the Sales Dept. Concierge. His job was to do all the little things for the salespeople like pick up their laundry, theatre tickets, take their cars for service/washing. He thought it was a gimmick. An extravagance to hold the staff. It came as a great shock to him to learn that he, as a Director of a large company, didn't earn as much as these salespeople per year. And HE didn't rate a Concierge! But he was only a Director. He was easily replaceable. A professional Salesman is like a self-organised Software Engineer who can spell! He makes or breaks the company. He pays everyone's wages. And it is extremely silly to use such a man's time for picking up laundry, who brings in x millions of dollars per year from his time. But they were all replaceable, they knew
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Get the source and compile it. -- Gerald Waugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.
FemmeFatale wrote: OK I have bastille installed... now how to I use this interactive setup ;) Haven't looked for it, not knowing where to look...so just point i'll click. Femme Femme, Do you mean to harden your entire system with Bastille, or just install and configure a firewall? If you're going to do the first then issue this command as root in a terminal: /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille If it's the second you're looking to do then simply access the Tiny Firewall utility in Mandrake Control Center. This will setup and initialize Bastille Firewall on your system. The two processes are distinctly different and I would strongly caution anyone that using InteractiveBastille to conffigure a firewall is like using a 12guage shotgun to swat a fly. It's not a good idea. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. InteractiveBastille is a very powerful tool and you can literally lock your system down so hard that you'll end up having to reload the thing just to check your email. just a word of caution... -- Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Is there a rpm for oracle in php 4.0.6 for Mandrake?
I'm trying to have php work with oracle on my Mandrake 8.0. I have reinstalled php 4.0.6-3.2mdk using software manager. It only has php-mysql and php-pgsql packages. Is there a package that will work with oracle? My apache right now is 1.3.22-1.2mdk. Yu-Hsin Chen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:26, sda wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 01:11:19PM -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I believe that Sridhar's point was that they are NOT holding out their hands with a plea, they are moving to a subscription model of business; seems to me that YOU are the one that's delusional. You're just seeing what you want to see, or pushing an agenda that you want to push. It's already been stated elsewhere and here the details and advantages of the business plan they have; you're just not reading. If they're moving to a subscriber model, then why is it called a club and not a subscription service? BTW are you talking offically and are you an employee of MandrakeSoft? lol. Guess I should have expected that sooner or later. No, I am not an employee of MandrakeSoft, nor am I affiliated with them in any way other than having subscribed to the club and use of their distro. LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1
Title: Message -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:28 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Myers, Dennis R NWOSubject: RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 Here is my /etc/mtab... I've got no experience with it, so I'm attaching the whole file... /dev/hda1 / ext2 rw 0 0none /proc proc rw 0 0devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0/dev/hda6 /home ext2 rw 0 0/dev/hdb1 /var ext2 rw 0 0/proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0automount(pid1179) /misc autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1179,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0automount(pid1207) /net autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1207,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0[Myers, Dennis R NWO] Ok, the problem I see is that there is no entry inmtab for the hdd device. Mtab is mounttable. Again I am not at home, and using a M$ computer so I can't give you the entry, but if someone on the list will jump in here and provide a line. I think that you need to add an entry in lilo append line also. Have you tried going to harddrake and seeing if the zip shows up there, if so, is the configuration bar active at thebottom of the screen.If it iscan you do a configuration from there? I will check the entry for mtab and a zip device when Ican get to my home office computer, assuming we don't have some help from the list by then. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
AMEN! Sridhar well said! -- Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alcatel speedTouch usb...
Salve a tutti e grazie in anticipo per l'attenzione, ho da poco installato Mandrake 8.1 sul mio pc di casa e vorrei riuscire a collegarmi ad internet. All'installazione ha riconosciuto subito il mio modem, come da titolo un Alcatel speedTouch usb adsl. Nonostante la grande quantità di HOWTO per adsl sembrano quasi tutti rivolgersi alla versione per modem ethernet. Io ho montato anche una scheda ethernet che viene riconosciuta e funzione correttamente. Il modem sembra funzionare, il problema credo che sia nella connessione. Dico ciò perchè un paio di volte sono anche riuscito a collegarmi (in maniera del tutto casuale e con procedure utilizzate e riutilizzate). Il mio ISP è telecom. Se qualcuno di voi ha già risolto il problema gl sarei molto grato se condividesse con me la soluzione. Saluti. /*Nicola Spreafico*/ = Non hai veramente capito qualcosa fino a quando non sei in grado di spiegarlo a tua nonna. Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1
Title: Message Hi Dennis... I hope that mtab is the problem, and that it can be solved. I really liked being able to use my ZIP drive! If you (or someone else reading this!) can tell me what the correct entry into mtab would be, I would appreciate it. I also found information about "/etc/auto.misc" out there, and MY /etc/auto.misc shows the following. Does it shed any light? # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $# This is an automounter map and it has the following format# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location# Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage kernel -ro,soft,intr ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linuxcd -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom # the following entries are samples to pique your imagination#boot -fstype=ext2 :/dev/hda1floppy -fstype=auto :/dev/fd0#floppy -fstype=ext2 :/dev/fd0#e2floppy -fstype=ext2 :/dev/fd0#jaz -fstype=ext2 :/dev/sdc1#removable -fstype=auto :/dev/hdd#zip -fstype=auto,rw,nosuid,nodev :/dev/zip -Original Message-From: Myers, Dennis R NWO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:00 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:28 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Myers, Dennis R NWOSubject: RE: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1 Here is my /etc/mtab... I've got no experience with it, so I'm attaching the whole file... /dev/hda1 / ext2 rw 0 0none /proc proc rw 0 0devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0/dev/hda6 /home ext2 rw 0 0/dev/hdb1 /var ext2 rw 0 0/proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0automount(pid1179) /misc autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1179,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0automount(pid1207) /net autofs rw,fd=8,pgrp=1207,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0[Myers, Dennis R NWO] Ok, the problem I see is that there is no entry inmtab for the hdd device. Mtab is mounttable. Again I am not at home, and using a M$ computer so I can't give you the entry, but if someone on the list will jump in here and provide a line. I think that you need to add an entry in lilo append line also. Have you tried going to harddrake and seeing if the zip shows up there, if so, is the configuration bar active at thebottom of the screen.If it iscan you do a configuration from there? I will check the entry for mtab and a zip device when Ican get to my home office computer, assuming we don't have some help from the list by then. HTH Dennis M.
Re: [newbie] And their OFF!!!!! 8.2 is now out!!
Have a search at one of these mirrors: http://www.linuxnet.co.il/mandrake/ftp.php3.htm From: sda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] And their OFF! 8.2 is now out!! Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:58:53 -0500 On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 08:07:46PM -0300, Damian wrote: El lun, 18-03-2002 a las 18:53, David .. escribió: Go and get them _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com whoa!! should have the mail checker open always... looks like they are too busy and timing out.. :o( well anyway this can't be bad, i mean lots of ppl want it. ;o) i hope it's three times the people that used 8.1. they deserve it. NOT three x the people that used it - 3x the people that PAID for it last time...important distinction. Casual users is the last thing MandrakeSoft needs right now. -- -^- -^- ? ?Steve ^ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' ` Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 18:31, ed tharp wrote: damn Jon, you are Certainly full of your self. CivilMe is one of those that understand and make the company work. Only a self sold salesman would be so damn blind to the real world to make a statement that the only folks that count are salesman. have you considered that _your_ (and I do mean) Slanted view might be considered very Bourgeois and basicly asinine? being multi-syllabic does not make you intelligent, just windy, and altho that may work in the world o sales, in the world of technicians, it does not wash my shorts. Sales people willingly tell stories about things they have no real Idea about, since their reputation is built on sales, and not on the satisfaction of customers. that is the basic reason we get a different answer to the question of is the product a good one, when you ask the salesman and the technician or mechanic. while it is important for the salesman to have great confidence in his self, the same would be a disaster for a good tech. the same holds true as to why few techs ever make the change to sales. Personal integrity is too important to them to be a BS artists that being a good salesman requires. let me say this from the bottom of my heart, as one of the folks in this world who does create added value everyday to support myself and a number of others, and who is regularly called on to change the salesmans lies to customer satisfaction SALESMEN are Assholes It depends. A _good_ sales(wo)man realises that the result aimed at is for the customer to end up with the product that suits them best, not to sell them any old crap. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] corrupted boot-urgent help needed
Hakan , unless i'm mistaken the answer is quite simple. Shutdown your PC re-boot with a Windows start-up floppy and re-install your Win95. This overwrites MBR but provided you have a Linux boot floppy you can get back into your Linux. Then re-write lilo/conf file (i think) and from a shell Issue command to run /sbin/lilo. Check with others correct file to edit when back in Linux. HTH! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Hakan Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: [newbie] corrupted boot-urgent help needed After accidentally updating my kernel (although I knew I shouldn't), I tried to install the original one from the installCDs of 8.1. During that process however, LILO went bad. There was an error reproted about vmlinuz that I don't remember very well now, and setup did not progress any further. To correct (!) the problem, I chose grub instead of lilo, and it seemed to work. At least the setup finished. Then, everything was OK linuxwise; however I can't boot my windows 95 anymore. I tried Webmin, Drakeconf, Linuxconf but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to make it bootable again without loosing the data? Thanks in advance, Hakan _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried text mode install? Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ed tharp Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions On Tuesday 19 March 2002 11:34, you wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Hi Randy, The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM. It came out in 95/96 so it would have been at the beginning of the PnP era. I'll check it out. Thanks, Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
SNIP Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /) filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's? Well if it is any use to you. All my partitions are XFS, and I did not have to do anything special when installing new kernels. It just works... derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
At 10:22 AM 03/19/2002 -0800, you wrote: At 12:49 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Hi Randy, The CD ROM is Creative Labs 4X CD ROM. It came out in 95/96 so it would have been at the beginning of the PnP era. I'll check it out. Well, I can't find a View Hardware option for the installation. I can choose F1 for Expert/Text/Normal installations and that is it. It seems like the install program is caught in a loop. Joel - Qualcomm, Eudora Mail Pro 5.1 - Joel Viney[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5512737 AIM: LdEaldred Federal Way, WA Hans 1957 VW Karmann Ghia Wolfgang 1971 VW Westfalia Camper Der Krieglastwagen Goro1995 Nissan Pickup http://home.earthlink.net/~aldredmac/ The voice of God, if you really want to know, is Aretha Franklin. - Marianne Faithful ___ Want cheap long distance calling? Try 10 - 10 - Pi The more digits you dial, the greater the savings!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Willing to run Dragon Plus MB
On 19 Mar 2002 13:28:11 -0500 Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you get the sound working with this motherboard? Just wondering whether Soyo's on-board sound was supported by Mandrake. Both the sound and the onboard network adapter work without problem in Mandrake. Should you choose both can also be disabled in the BIOS. I have been running an XP1900+ with the Dragon+ since Jan and it is great. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
and you might try a few diferent kernels, it may simply be that one of those kernels doesn't match your system in some way. i myself have 4 kernels installed but one of them refuses to boot. On Tuesday 19 March 2002 10:27, Derek Jennings opened a hailing frequency and transmitted: SNIP Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /) filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's? Well if it is any use to you. All my partitions are XFS, and I did not have to do anything special when installing new kernels. It just works... derek -- The box said 'Requires Windows 95 or better.' So I installed LINUX shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Willing to run Dragon Plus MB
i see your running a soyo, did you get it from tiger direct? and do you like it i am thinking about building one of there kits. did you by the kit and how long did it take to put together thanks Ron - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Willing to run Dragon Plus MB On 19 Mar 2002 13:28:11 -0500 Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you get the sound working with this motherboard? Just wondering whether Soyo's on-board sound was supported by Mandrake. Both the sound and the onboard network adapter work without problem in Mandrake. Should you choose both can also be disabled in the BIOS. I have been running an XP1900+ with the Dragon+ since Jan and it is great. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to best support Mandrake - real world style
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:26, Damian wrote: i knew sooner or later it would come down to this come on, now. you can to better that that. if you just don't agree you could stop the discussion period. neither of you are the ones that decide this matter for Mandrakesoft so why should you start calling each other names over it. I agree totally. The entire exchange was repulsive, not to mention horrible and slightly amusing. I move that the participants be strung up and tortured with naked women in wet t-shirts. (oops. scratch the t-shirt thing). ; Mandrakesoft has people inside that do this kind of thinking and it's their bet which counts. ( and i'm pretty damn positive anything we can say in here will affect their choices. ) Ahrrrmmm...yes of course you are right. maybe we all can come up with some brilliant way to make this distro the most widely used, made by the richest enterprise and with the most employees. but if it's going to end up this way, we better keep it to ourselves. Well said. i've migrated successfully to linux because of this list, let's just help mandrake in whatever way we can, and hope for the best. in the meantime, let's keep this list as cool as it always has been. Damian. Hear hear ! Tongue in cheek, LX _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - PC building help
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 06:05, Roger Sherman wrote: If it's no trouble, yeah, that would be great! He sounds like quite the authority. I did see Soyo on the recommended list...I can't remember, I think they might have had onboard sound, and I'm determined to use my SB Live Well, I'm a Soyo fan, but wasn't real thrilled when they started integrating sound. Went ahead an got a k7vta pro almost a year ago an it's been flawless, even tho I'm oc'd to the hilt. Anyhow the onboard AC97 works great... I was plesantly surprised. NBD tho to use a different card, the onboard sound is easily disabled by a bios setting. I tried it, it works. Both the k7vta and Dragon boards are AMD and LinuxHardware approved for the high end Athlons. So it's not just me that likes 'em ;) The original poster mentioned expense. The k7vta pro is very inexpensive and works great with any old sdram. One thing Soyo boards are noted for is great ram performance. I'm usin ancient pc100 sdram at 135Mhz Cas2 4bank interleaved. Runs memtest86 or cpuburn (burnK7 and burnMMX) endlessly with -0- errors. Competes favorably with many DDR systems. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ping
Dear Brian, Thank you for your answer. I will gather the info you asked for within the next few days and send in. I know Samba cannot work right if I cannot even Ping. Of course the networking works fine on the vmware Win95 side. Thank you for your attention on this matter. Sincerely, Marcia On Tuesday 19 March 2002 04:32 am, you wrote: Marcia, If you can't ping, then samba is certainly going to have problems. Are you able to post some details of the IP addresses, subnet mask etc. i.e. Give us a feel for how you have things set up? Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 03:32, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I cannot ping my vmware Windows95 guest from my LM8.1. I can ping my Linux from the Windows95, but I cannot reach the machine from Linux. Even so, the networking in Win95 is working well. I can see my machine and do anything with all of my Linux files within the vmware Windows. However I have not been able to get the samba networking going in Linux so that I can see my Windows95 machine and files. I have read and tried so many things in Samba, go rid of Bastille, worked with the /etc/hosts.allow and deny files and more. I do not know why I cannot reach the machine yet. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SCSI dialog box problem Linux-Mandrake 7.2
Joel G. Viney wrote: I'm installing Linux Mandrake 7.2 from CD. I get to the Setup Filesystems section. A dialog box pops up asking Do you have any SCSI Interface? I do not so I click No. The dialog box keeps popping up and I can't get past it. I'm installing it on a P-II 233mhz machine w/ 295MB of RAM. Just a shot in the dark: IIRC, there is an option to View Hardware -- have you tried that -- maybe there is a SCSI device, or something that Mandrake thinks is a SCSI. (IIUC, some of the very early CD-Roms that used proprietary interfaces were actually SCSI or a variety thereof. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
AW: [newbie] mandrake 8.1 cd 3
Title: Nachricht so if your willing to wait some time i send you a copy my names adrian , and i know your problem :) haha ... i was used to get rid with modem for a long time , but alot of people supported me and send me cds from all over the world i can send the package through my company , so no postage payage , and there a re alot of empty cds lying in my appartement , i'm sure i can spend 1 or 2 for you :)) ... adrian - keep the X in your system - or go and watch anime - -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Heather ReedGesendet: Dienstag, 19. März 2002 10:29An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Betreff: [newbie] mandrake 8.1 cd 3 Hi folks Is there anywhere on the net that the 3rd CD can be obtained in bite sized chunks? I have the ISOs for 1 and 2 from a mag cover disk, but the 3rd wasn't included. Is this because it isn't free? I was installing something the other day and software manager asked for it. I've found a complete ISO on the net, but I don't have broadband and the download kept timing out :-(( Heather
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
Oh!, I didn't know I needed to do this. I thought if I just used a hub, I could do that! What's the link btw? Yeah, both machines have internet access. James James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense. In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine. Lanman On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
Oh, I connect to each of them just fine but I want to be able to get files just by using cp, mv, or whatever without going over the internet. James Hi James! Don't know how much help I can be, I'm no networking expert, but I have 2 linux boxes hooked up to a RP 114 netgear router, and I can ssh into the other box from this one with no problem. What model hub are you using? _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Willing to run Dragon Plus MB
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:32:48 -0500 Ron Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i see your running a soyo, did you get it from tiger direct? and do you like it i am thinking about building one of there kits. did you by the kit and how long did it take to put together thanks Ron NO!! Tiger Direct The BBB give them a very poor rating. I ordered my parts from various online vendors that I have dealt with before, using price/shipping charges/in stock as a criteria. Use www.pricewatch.com and it will give you many sources, with several offering better prices than Tiger Direct. I have built several system so that now it takes me only about 30min to put one together. If this will be your first time my suggestion would be to completely read the MOBO manual before you start anything. There is nothing hard to building your own as long as you do not allow the process to intimidate you and as long as you understand the direction's. Good luck Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
yeah, they both use DHCP. I pay an extra $6/month for both of them - I need both computers to be accessible online so I pay the extra money. James My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the Internet, but not each other. Right? If so, a better setup would be to make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the other a purely local machine. Your gateway machine could also then be the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one. If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen, have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-) HTH Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ATAPI ZIP drive not working under LM8.1
Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP) wrote: I've got an ATAPI ZIP drive installed in my Linux-Mandrake system (running on a Celeron 533, 256 megs memory), and it's not working (it's the SECOND device on the SECOND IDE channel and harddrake reports it as hdd). The drive powers during POST, so I know the connections are good. I've got the following in my /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,rw,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 When I enter mount /mnt/zip with a known-good ZIP disk in the drive, I get the following: root.drewvogel:/etc$ mount /mnt/zip mount: /dev/hdd4 is not a block device Dmesg reports it as there: hda: ST36530A, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC AC26400R, ATA DISK drive hdc: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-152L, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive I'm not sure how to proceed. Can someone help? Hi Andrew. I tried helping you before, guess I failed. Sorry. Just out of curiosity, are you running Mandrake v8.1? If so, I would suggest (as a last resort) disabling devfs. Its caused problems in various places on other users machines. Here, I couldn't burn CD's with my CDRW until I disabled it. As root, go to /etc/lilo.conf and edit it. See the line about devfs? If it is enabled, use what I have below. I hope this helps you, because otherwise I just really don't know... boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 prompt timeout=300 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append= devfs=nomount quiet (this is the line here!) vga=788 read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe See ya later... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
Mandrake Newbie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Thanks... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hmmm... How did the install fail? SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system. I am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network cards. Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed. You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF. Dual-boots are impossible. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Win4Lin ready for 8.2
Win4lin users: The 8.2 kernel/patches are now available available via the installer. They'll also be posted to their web site by tomorrow morning. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dvorak
Actually, I agree with him. Ease of use is probably real world larger than the Adobe Photoshop factor. I think that Mandrake has gone the furthest in that direction. It's my favorite distribution. Michael Garcia Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinumrefcd=PT97 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And their OFF!!!!! 8.2 is now out!!
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Charlie wrote: Agreed. I'll be happy to buy a box set as soon as it's available at my local everything in software including the 'bugware' store. A pain to go all the way downtown but I refuse to do transactions of any kind online. Charlie I'm downloading it now, but will be buying it as well. I bought the 8.1 PowerPack, and except for being mildly annoyed at it's assertion that you get commercial software with it when you really just get trialware, I really thought I got much more than my moneys worth. __ On March 19, 2002 08:58 am, Steve spake thusly: NOT three x the people that used it - 3x the people that PAID for it last time...important distinction. Casual users is the last thing MandrakeSoft needs right now. Steve -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supporting Mandrake
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:57:31 -0500 ed tharp ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my own perspective, the tee shirts from the Mandrake store are about babe magnets. I had two strippers try and pick me up in the computer section of BestBuy, to get me to set up a webcam, and since i had a shirt on that said linux they decided I MUST know all about the internet and how it runs. (sure did bug my wife, who was looking at refridgerators, and came over to tell me she found the one she wanted, about the time I accecpted their card with home address). I say just get an entire outfit. and Please, Mandrake Store, get more selection (I was wearing the polo shirt w/ crashtesters on it) Thanks do for the tip. ;) On Tuesday 19 March 2002 02:16, you wrote: On Tuesday 19 March 2002 01:06 am, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: I don't understand all the fuss. Either give them a whopping $5 a month, or don't. I chose to. I've used Mandrake for a good while and I can spare the $5. It's like one less trip to McDonalds each month. I think I can handle it. Peace, I'll second that. Seems like the choice is simple. Support a dynamic team of people dedicated to pushing our artform to science, or send your ransom to Redmond. I don't do McDonalds though. Guess I'll give up something else. Hmmm Lee -- °°° Mandrake Linux 8.1 Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk KDE 2.2.1 Sylpheed 0.7.2 David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Homepagewww.davidlsteiner.com Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Lanman wrote: I hate it when that happens! Here's the link, dude! http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/ By the way, for those of you who don't know, you can start simplifying your Linux-related searches by using Google's Linux search page; www.google.com/linux - for the rest of you, and,... Nice! Thanks, I never knew aboot that... www.google.ca/linux - for us Canucks. You'll find your Linux stuff much faster! Lanman - Original Message - From: Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LM Newbie Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers Dude... you forgot the link :) NB On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote: James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense. In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine. Lanman On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And their OFF!!!!! 8.2 is now out!!
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 00:47, Roger Sherman wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Charlie wrote: Agreed. I'll be happy to buy a box set as soon as it's available at my local everything in software including the 'bugware' store. A pain to go all the way downtown but I refuse to do transactions of any kind online. Charlie I'm downloading it now, but will be buying it as well. I bought the 8.1 PowerPack, and except for being mildly annoyed at it's assertion that you get commercial software with it when you really just get trialware, I really thought I got much more than my moneys worth. Will there be a plain download version CD set (as with 8.1)? I really have no need for the stuff in the Powerpack. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And their OFF!!!!! 8.2 is now out!!
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Robin Turner wrote: On Wednesday 20 March 2002 00:47, Roger Sherman wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Charlie wrote: Agreed. I'll be happy to buy a box set as soon as it's available at my local everything in software including the 'bugware' store. A pain to go all the way downtown but I refuse to do transactions of any kind online. Charlie I'm downloading it now, but will be buying it as well. I bought the 8.1 PowerPack, and except for being mildly annoyed at it's assertion that you get commercial software with it when you really just get trialware, I really thought I got much more than my moneys worth. Will there be a plain download version CD set (as with 8.1)? I really have no need for the stuff in the Powerpack. Robin You mean, for sale? If you have a dial up, and don't want to be downloading for the next week, you can go to cheapbytes.com and buy the download set for probably under $10. -- peace, Rog registered linux user #190719 ICQ #56469198 http://www.toddstheory.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
OK, my ESP is getting better ;-) I see another reply has put you on the right track, but just to be specific and avoid confusion First let's make sure I understand what you have: - 2 linux boxes - 1 network card (NIC) in each - a hub - a cable modem If that's correct, then what you need to do is: 1. Stop paying for a second connection 2. With the $6 / month you save, buy a second NIC for one machine - this becomes the gateway 3. Leave one NIC in your gateway connected to the cable modem and connect the other to your hub 4. Connect the machine with one NIC (let's call this the client) to the hub 5. Set the IP address on your new gateway NIC (the one connected to the hub) to 192.168.0.1 in subnet 255.255.255.0 - there are other alternatives, but let's keep life simple and use that. 6. Set the IP address on your client machine to 192.168.0.2 - same subnet Now you can ping 192.168.0.1 from the client and 192.168.0.2 from the gateway. You can also share files between them by setting up some NFS mounts, share printers etc. Your gateway machine at this point has internet access, but not your client, so two more steps are required to complete the picture. 1. Set up a route from your private subnet (255.255.255.0) to the public side (the subnet to which the NIC connected to the cable modem belongs) webmin is probably the easiest tool to use for this. Have a play with that and come back to the list if you have trouble with it. 2. Set up a firewall on the gateway machine. InteractiveBastille would be a reasonable choice, but there are many others. You'll find a zillion message on that in the archives, so I won't blather on here about the details. Hopefully that's enough to get you on track and you can come back with more specific questions as they arise. HTH Brian On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 07:29, James Thomas wrote: yeah, they both use DHCP. I pay an extra $6/month for both of them - I need both computers to be accessible online so I pay the extra money. James My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the Internet, but not each other. Right? If so, a better setup would be to make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the other a purely local machine. Your gateway machine could also then be the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one. If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen, have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-) HTH Brian On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote: Hey all, I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to accomplish this? Thanks! James _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
