[newbie-it] ftp e konqueror
nell'istallare la 8.2 ho cercato di fare una istallazione leggera ma crodo che ho esagerato che serve a konqueror per scaricare i files via ftp? grazie Claudio
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[newbie-it] usare gcc 3.01 invece di 2.96
eh eh si', odia e' la parola giusta. devo dire pero' che con la mdk 8.2 l'ho installato e funziona benissimo. hai provato con l'opzione del .configure? --disable-gcc-check o qualcosa del genere, c'e' nella prima schermata dell'mplayer. Si ci ho provato: dopo due righe mi ha detto qualcosa in inglese del tipo: ma sei scemo o cosa? Te lo detto che non funzionava!. Per la mdk 8.2 sto aspettando che qualche rivista si decida a darci sti' CD! Ehmm .. Il Makefile da modificare (di principio) e' quello del programma che devi compilare, NON quello del kernel Nel tuo esempio non usa le librerie del 3 perche' non usa neanche il gcc3 ;) Questa si che è una bella figura da cioccolataio! Avevo capito male. Avrai riso per 20 m. almeno! In ogni caso ho dato un'occhiata e per MPlayer non va modificato il Makefile quanto piuttosto il configure (che definisce la variabile), per la precisione alla riga _cc=gcc che cambierai in _cc=gcc-3.0.1 fai _sempre_ prima una copia di backup (non affidarti alla buona volonta' dell'editor utilizzato). O.K., ci provo e ti farò sapere! Solo che devo aspettare la prossima settimana per avere i sorgenti di mplayer. Ciao e grazie a tutti Biss
R: [newbie-it] warning - megapippa
per quel che ne so x far partire l'interfaccia grafica basta un startx da consol per i messaggi di memoria insufficiente penso che hai incasinato la tabella delle partizioni comunque linux non è propio intuitivo come win 98.( ho forse è perchè con win 98 ci lavoro da 3 anni e linux lo appena installato 3mesi ciao - Original Message - From: LILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mauroeugenio [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:58 PM Subject: R: [newbie-it] warning - megapippa il tuo sfogo e veramente goliardico ... buona fortuna per l'installazione ... -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Per conto di mauroeugenio Inviato: mercoledi 1 maggio 2002 16.06 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oggetto: [newbie-it] warning - megapippa Buongiorno a tutti, mi sono iscritto alla ml quando ho scaricato mdk8.2 ed ho letto un po' di mail senza capirci un granche'... motivo ? non uso (ancora) Linux :) Non che non abbia tentato... ma inevitabilmente mi areno _prima_ di arrivare in un ambiente operativo: mi spiego meglio, parto con un'installazione e questa mi si pianta, parto con un'altra e mi si pianta in modo diverso, riprovo la prima e si inventa un errore che ancora non avevo visto :( Al momento ho un thinkpad 570 sul quale posso fare le prove che voglio, tanto non lo uso, e ci ho messo su W98 (funzionante, se avessi tempo e voglia potrei pure configurare correttamente la scheda video scaricandomi i driver giusti), poi BeOS (installazione andata a buon fine, non mi e' piaciuto un granche', levato per fare spazio xche' lo hd e' solo 5Giga), poi QNX (installazione andata a buon fine, mi sembra veloce, provero' a usarlo). A questo punto ho messo il cd1 di mdk, ma la macchina ha rifiutato di avviarsi da cd; tuttavia si poteva fare un dischetto di boot, ho messo un floppy, dato ok... e mi viene chiesto quale immagine copiare. E io che ne so ? vabbe' ravanando nel cd1 ho un'intuizione geniale, c'e' un folder boot, sara' li' dentro... scelgo a naso una immagine, ci azzecco e mi faccio il floppy di boot funzionante :) Avvio la macchina dal floppy, che va a leggere il cd1... e mi dice il cd non sembra essere un cd di installazione di mdk Oh be' provo cd2 e cd3 hai visto mai... ma neppure loro sono il cd di installazione :( Bene, mi riscarichero' la distribuzione giovedi' in ufficio e rifaro' i cd, magari uno si e' corrotto... Nel frattempo mi viene in mano RedHat7 (2cd allegati a inter.net di qualche mese fa) infilo il cd, avvio la macchina, menu' guidato sino alla scelta del metodo di installazione, mi dico lasciamolo fare in automatico, mi dice che lo spazio non e' sufficiente per creare la partizione Linux (5Giga di fat32 usati per meno di 1Giga?!!?!?) :( Allora con PartitionMagic restringo win a 2G e creo un 3Giga di partizione Linux, riparto col cd di RH7 che stavolta partiziona, installa, spegne, riaccende, schermata grafica col cappello rosso e la scelta Linux - Dos, avvio Linux, mi chiede l'utente e glielo dico, carica il programma e si ferma al prompt comandi :( Bene... ma l'ambiente grafico KDE che ho scelto in fase di installaziona a) perche' non parte da solo b) con quale comando parte manualmente ? c) perche' non c'e' una riga di help almeno dei comandi base ? Ho letto con interesse la mail di LukenShiro, e concordo con lui sulla necessita' di metterci del proprio per imparare ad usare un nuovo s.o. ma sembra che tutte le distro e le istruzioni siano fatte sul presuppsto che l'utente gia' sa qualcosa: beh, non e' vero, e non mi riferisco solo all'utente win che ha trovato il pc nel fustino de dash e crede che la rete l'abbia inventata BG nel '93 Io ho a che fare con l'informatica (da _utente_, sia ben chiaro) da inizio anni 80, per il mio lavoro mi hanno messo sulla scrivania un terminale VM, (ambiente UNIX per chi non lo sa...), e le istruzioni che ho avuto sono state M per il menu', poi fai la scelta, se si pianta spegni e riaccendi: tutto il (poco) resto l'ho imparato smanettando, ed e' finita che mi hanno dato da gestire la rete interna per 180 utenti ;) Idem per il primo pc con dos 1.2 e 64K RAM, che e' arrivato smontato (e cmq destinato ad un altro reparto), sarebbe rimasto nell'imballaggio se un pomeriggio per i cavoli miei non avessi preso il manuale di installazione e l'avessi montato e iniziato ad usare, recuperando anche un emulatore di 3270 per entrarci in VM. Poi ho imparato a pacioccare in basic abbastanza da crearmi dei programmilli che ho usato sino all'arrivo del 486 con w95... che ho odiato sin dall'inizio come ho odiato l'unica auto con cambio automatico che ho mai guidato, che mi cambiava marcia a meta' di un sorpasso o di una curva. Comunque ho fatto di necessita' virtu', cercando di capire cosa c'era nascosto _sotto_ alla grafica (toh... il dos!!) e di ricavare il meglio dal s.o. che _dovevo_ usare per compatibilita' col resto
Re: [newbie-it] Aggiornamento sito - risposta per Fabrizio
Ciao Daniele, Ti aggiorno e ti comunico che ho risolto il problema tanto ostico !!! Bisogna collegarsi con un qualsiasi programma FTP disabilitando la modalità passiva che sia GFTP che IglooFTP lasciano in Enabled. Inoltre sotto segnalazione di Tiscali mi è stato comunicato che per aggiornare i dati residenti nel sito occore connettersi ad internet tramite un accesso tiscali... Ecco svelato il mistero.. Grazie a tutta la ML e a Daniele. Alle 18:20, domenica 21 aprile 2002, hai scritto: Ciao Fabrizio, posto qui sulla ML la risposta alla tua email perchè il messaggio che ti avevo inviato mi è tornato indietro: hai settato come indirizzo di risposta [EMAIL PROTECTED]... nel frattempo avevo cancellato la tua email, quindi non sono stato in grado di recuperare il tuo indirizzo reale. Ciao... Daniele -- Messaggio inoltrato -- Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Aggiornamento sito Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:29:20 +0200 From: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fabrizio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Il giorno 02:01, domenica 21 aprile 2002 hai scritto: [CUT] Ti posto il file di log (in privato) che crea gftp !!! Spero di non essere troppo invadente Grazie 1000 Ciao Fabrizio, ho letto il breve log che mi hai allegato. Da quel che leggo, direi che il problema non dipende da GFtp... sembra che il server Tiscali, dopo averti loggato, non riesca a mantenere la connessione (o abbia problemi con la modalità passiva). Hai già provato a contattare l'assistenza tecnica di Tiscali? Daniele ---
[newbie-it] sempre su Mandrake [era: Perplessità]
Salve sono ancora io, siccome sono testardo ho: 1) Disinstallato StarOffice6.0 2) Ripristinato il menù originale 3) Re-installato StarOffice scegliendo la modaltà consigliata, quella cioè che non installa i files in locale, e che richiede solo 0,7 MB di spazio nella home. 4) Ora i menù predefiniti funzionano e StarOffice 6.0 parte anche più velocemente. Il bug (se così si può chiamare) è quindi più piccolo di quello che potesse sembrare. Ho postato questa informazione nel caso fosse utile a qualcuno. Un saluto.
[newbie-it] Monitoraggio temperatura
Cari amici, quale programma mi consigliate per tenere sotto controllo la temperatura, velocità ventola etc. Della mia MDK8.2(ce forze qualcosa sui cd di inst.?). Grazie a presto Mino Mitrugno
Re: [newbie-it] ftp e konqueror
Alle 08:40, giovedì 2 maggio 2002, Voi Claudio Duchi avete scritto: nell'istallare la 8.2 ho cercato di fare una istallazione leggera ma crodo che ho esagerato che serve a konqueror per scaricare i files via ftp? Non ne sono sicurissimo, ma dato che, scaricando file via ftp con konqueror, mi appare un processo come questo: kdeinit: kio_ftp ftp /tmp/ksocket-. direi che si affida ad una libreria condivisa interna (kio_ftp.so, appunto, del pacchetto kdelibs) senza ricorrere a comandi esterni [e per verifica ho provato a rinominare il file /usr/bin/ftp, ottenendo lo stesso un risultato positivo] -- L.U. #210970 - L.M. #98222 * MDK 8.3-cooker - 2.4.18-preemptible Netiquette ... questa sconosciuta: ftp://ftp.nic.it/rfc/rfc1855.txt Motore di ricerca: se lo conosci non lo eviti ...
Re: [newbie-it] Monitoraggio temperatura
Alle 13:26, giovedì 2 maggio 2002, Voi Mino avete scritto: Cari amici, quale programma mi consigliate per tenere sotto controllo la temperatura, velocità ventola etc. Della mia MDK8.2(ce forze qualcosa sui cd di inst.?). Be', c'e' il pacchetto lm_sensors, che 'dovrebbe' fungere allo scopo (tutto pero' dipende dal chip del sensore della m/b): in linea generale cmq dovrebbe fornire: voltaggi, temperatura CPU, temperatura m/b e giri della ventola. -- L.U. #210970 - L.M. #98222 * MDK 8.3-cooker - 2.4.18-preemptible Netiquette ... questa sconosciuta: ftp://ftp.nic.it/rfc/rfc1855.txt Motore di ricerca: se lo conosci non lo eviti ...
[newbie-it] Konqueror Web
Qualcuno di voi sa dirmi come poter visualizzare la cronologia dei siti visitati? Mi sembra impossibile che non è stata implementata per questo browser! Grazie, Pollo.
[newbie-it] Navigazione non in linea
Vi ripropongo un vecchio messaggio. Anche io ho lo stesso problema... Qualcuno sa aiutarci? Saluti a tutti. Volendo navigare non in linea ho selezionato, nel centro di controllo di kde- proxy e cache, la relativa casellina. L'opzione funziona a dovere però quando assegno un'indirizzo nuovo da visitare in linea mi comunica che non esiste. In definitiva se tengo la cache aggiornata posso navigare in linea ma non fuori, viceversa se seleziono navig. non in linea accedo ai siti visitati ma non a quelli in linea e compare il messaggio host sconosciuto. Sicuramente c'è qualche opzione che mi sfugge, potete indirizzarmi? Avrei bisogno anche della stringa per accedere ai msg. della lista. Grazie, Pollo.
[newbie-it] staroffice
Ciao a tutti. Volevo chiedervi informazioni sull'ultima versione di Staroffice. E' ancora freeware? E soprattutto è ancora pesante come quelle vecchie (io ho ancora una versione di un paio di anni fa)? ciao e grazie rosanna
Re: [newbie-it] staroffice
Alle 16:19, giovedì 2 maggio 2002, rosanna ha scritto: Ciao a tutti. Volevo chiedervi informazioni sull'ultima versione di Staroffice. E' ancora freeware? E soprattutto è ancora pesante come quelle vecchie (io ho ancora una versione di un paio di anni fa)? ciao e grazie rosanna Ciao, da poco è disponibile StarOffice 6.0 su www.mandrakeclub.com però devi sottoscrivere un abbonamento di 120 USD... Alternativa è comprare il Power Pack per circa 70 Euro, dove oltre a 3000 programmi, 2 manuali ed ovviamente la mandrake 8.2, ci trovi anche Staroffice 6.0 ed Adabas. Alternativa economica è OpenOffice 1.0 (uscito ieri), cui devi aggiungere a mano il dizionario italiano (per le correzioni), mentre la versione localizzata in italiano ancora non c'è. Per il database puoi usare Adabas di StarOffice 5.2. Spero di essere stato chiaro. Un saluto.
[newbie-it] domandina...
Salve a tutti, ho una piccola domanda alla quale (per ora), da solo non ho trovato risposta. Dispongo di un DVD IDE ATAPI e di un masterizzatore IDE. LILO mette di default l'opzione per il masterizzatore come scsi (hdb=ide-scsi). Io aggiungo la linea per il DVD (hda=ide-scsi) e i programmi mi vedono il DVD come unità di lettura. Il problema è che non vedo più i DVD. :(( Come risolvo? Inoltre se tolgo la voce scsi per il DVD da LILO, potrei usare KONCD che mi vede il DVD come dispositivo IDE, ma non trovo su rpmfind il programma readcd. Che cosa posso usare al suo posto? CDparanoia non ha funzionato. Grazie a tutti. Un saluto.
Re: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2
- Original Message - From: Emiliano La Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2 cut Va beh! faccio finta di nulla e continuo l'installazione. Appena conclusa, riapro Staroffice e mi dice che non riesce a trovare l'importantissimo script Sofficerc infatti dice Impossibile trovare il file seguente nella vostra installazione Staroffice 5.2 /home/pingu/office52/user/sofficerc. Se ho capito bene è lo script che fa funzionare StarOffice. Di fatto però il file esiste in quella directory, in formato .txt! Avete consigli? Hai fatto l'installazione con l'opzione -net? Questo è quello che ho fatto un po' di tempo fa spero ti possa essere utile. entri come utente monti il cdrom apri il terminale diventi root digita /mnt/cdrom/linux/office52/setup -net (molti dicono che bisogna digitare /net ma con la / non mi funzionava mah! ) dove chiede di essere installato il prg di default non va bene in quanto la dir /root non è accessibile da tutti gli utenti quindi ho inserito /usr/bin/office52 terminata l'installazione digiti exit e torni utente normale da utente digita /usr/bin/office52/program/setup e parte l'installazione per singolo utente. Non mi ha installato né adabas né lo java. Però mi accontento. Nota bene l'ho installato sotto mandrake 8.1 e con il cd di staroffice. Spero di esserti stato d'aiuto come altri lo sono stati con me. Ciao ku68
Re: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2
- Original Message - From: Emiliano La Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2 cut Va beh! faccio finta di nulla e continuo l'installazione. Appena conclusa, riapro Staroffice e mi dice che non riesce a trovare l'importantissimo script Sofficerc infatti dice Impossibile trovare il file seguente nella vostra installazione Staroffice 5.2 /home/pingu/office52/user/sofficerc. Se ho capito bene è lo script che fa funzionare StarOffice. Di fatto però il file esiste in quella directory, in formato .txt! Avete consigli? Hai fatto l'installazione con l'opzione -net? Questo è quello che ho fatto un po' di tempo fa spero ti possa essere utile. entri come utente monti il cdrom apri il terminale diventi root digita /mnt/cdrom/linux/office52/setup -net (molti dicono che bisogna digitare /net ma con la / non mi funzionava mah! ) dove chiede di essere installato il prg di default non va bene in quanto la dir /root non è accessibile da tutti gli utenti quindi ho inserito /usr/bin/office52 terminata l'installazione digiti exit e torni utente normale da utente digita /usr/bin/office52/program/setup e parte l'installazione per singolo utente. Non mi ha installato né adabas né lo java. Però mi accontento. Nota bene l'ho installato sotto mandrake 8.1 e con il cd di staroffice. Spero di esserti stato d'aiuto come altri lo sono stati con me. Ciao ku68
Re: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2
- Original Message - From: Emiliano La Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Star Office 5.2 cut Va beh! faccio finta di nulla e continuo l'installazione. Appena conclusa, riapro Staroffice e mi dice che non riesce a trovare l'importantissimo script Sofficerc infatti dice Impossibile trovare il file seguente nella vostra installazione Staroffice 5.2 /home/pingu/office52/user/sofficerc. Se ho capito bene è lo script che fa funzionare StarOffice. Di fatto però il file esiste in quella directory, in formato .txt! Avete consigli? Hai fatto l'installazione con l'opzione -net? Questo è quello che ho fatto un po' di tempo fa spero ti possa essere utile. entri come utente monti il cdrom apri il terminale diventi root digita /mnt/cdrom/linux/office52/setup -net (molti dicono che bisogna digitare /net ma con la / non mi funzionava mah! ) dove chiede di essere installato il prg di default non va bene in quanto la dir /root non è accessibile da tutti gli utenti quindi ho inserito /usr/bin/office52 terminata l'installazione digiti exit e torni utente normale da utente digita /usr/bin/office52/program/setup e parte l'installazione per singolo utente. Non mi ha installato né adabas né lo java. Però mi accontento. Nota bene l'ho installato sotto mandrake 8.1 e con il cd di staroffice. Spero di esserti stato d'aiuto come altri lo sono stati con me. Ciao ku68
[newbie-it] Continuando con Lime Wire
Sono riuscito ad inbstallare Java4 grazie a dei pacchetti RPM. Sono sicuro che su questi pacchetti esiste la Virtual Machine perchè su pacchetti analoghi TAR nel documento c'è scritto che c'è. Il problema è che quando installo Lime Wire mi dice ancora che non può essere installato perchè manca la VM. Consigli? Grazie ANDREA
Re: [newbie-it] Navigazione non in linea
Alle 15:48, giovedì 2 maggio 2002, hai scritto: Vi ripropongo un vecchio messaggio. Anche io ho lo stesso problema... Qualcuno sa aiutarci? Saluti a tutti. Volendo navigare non in linea ho selezionato, nel centro di controllo di kde- proxy e cache, la relativa casellina. L'opzione funziona a dovere però quando assegno un'indirizzo nuovo da visitare in linea mi comunica che non esiste. In definitiva se tengo la cache aggiornata posso navigare in linea ma non fuori, viceversa se seleziono navig. non in linea accedo ai siti visitati ma non a quelli in linea e compare il messaggio host sconosciuto. Sicuramente c'è qualche opzione che mi sfugge, potete indirizzarmi? Avrei bisogno anche della stringa per accedere ai msg. della lista. Grazie, Pollo. Usa cache se possibile; è la terza opzione ;). Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
[newbie-it] domanda su mandrakeonline.net
Salve, è la seconda vlta che me lo chiedo, ed è la seconda volta che non trovo risposta... Acquistando i powerpack e registrando il proprio prodotto presso Mandrake, si ottiene una mail del tipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sui vari siti mandrake non c'è traccia della possibilità di poter controllare la mail nè in modalità webmail nè pop3... Qualcuno sa dove diavolo si configuri la posta di mandrake? Grazie e scusate l'eventuale (non credo) OT. Un saluto.
Re: [newbie-it] domandina...
Dopo che hai aggiunto "hda=ide-scsi", il device del dvd cambiato. Non pi ide (quindi hdax) ma scsi. Quindi il file che collega il dvd nella directory /dev dovrebbe essere qualcosa come scd0. Al posto dello 0 ci pu essere un altro numero! Il programma "readcd" non lo trovi perch fa parte del pacchetto "cdrecord" (se non erro), ma gli ide non li vede se non attraverso emulazione scsi! Spro di esserti stato d'aiuto Ciao ENx Brunini Alessandro wrote: Salve a tutti,ho una piccola domanda alla quale (per ora), da solo non ho trovato risposta.Dispongo di un DVD IDE ATAPI e di un masterizzatore IDE.LILO mette di default l'opzione per il masterizzatore come scsi (hdb=ide-scsi).Io aggiungo la linea per il DVD (hda=ide-scsi) e i programmi mi vedono il DVD come unit di lettura.Il problema che non vedo pi i DVD. :((Come risolvo?Inoltre se tolgo la voce scsi per il DVD da LILO, potrei usare KONCD che mi vede il DVD come dispositivo IDE, ma non trovo su rpmfind il programma "readcd". Che cosa posso usare al suo posto? CDparanoia non ha funzionato.Grazie a tutti.Un saluto.
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Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers - FIXED
Mcleod, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Good to hear. I sometimes edit text files as non-root and did not pay attention to the warning message - hence the file remained unchanged although I swear I changed it. It sounds like you had already changed it though? Ya, I was playing Tux games not 10 days ago. Do you know how to get Open Universe to work in normal time? It always warps on me and I can't get it to go real time. Press 'e'. I have another oddity, though. Tux has always run full-screen in the past. Now it's running at 640x480 (or 800x600?) but the monitor resolution doesn't change from 1280x1024. Wait a minute--I just remembered I was messing with monitor settings last week. I bet I accidentally changed the video card while I was doing that. And my monitor resolution is better (the frequency that is), but I had to do a custom setting to accomplish it. I bet the custom setting is preventing TuxRacer from going full-screen. That sux. I'll have to play with more flexible monitor settings, I guess. Miark Ian McLeod Customer Service Office (CSO) EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000 Phone: (08) 8464 1304 Fax: (08) 8464 2141 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDS... The recognised global leader in ensuring clients achieve superior value in the Digital Economy SAG Account Vision * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual obligations -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers - FIXED Very odd--my X config file went back to the nv driver! I switched it back to nvidia and all is well again. Very odd, indeed. Well, I'm staring at Saturn again, so I'm a happy camper. Miark Mcleod, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Please let me know how you go. I had it going some time ago but can't get it going now. Check your X server and other system logs as it starts up. It could just be a GL library or something that requires a link to the location that Open Universe is looking in. Ian McLeod Customer Service Office (CSO) EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000 Phone: (08) 8464 1304 Fax: (08) 8464 2141 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDS... The recognised global leader in ensuring clients achieve superior value in the Digital Economy SAG Account Vision * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual obligations -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 2:42 PM To: Newbie at MDK Subject: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers Can anybody run openuniverse _after_ you install the nVidia drivers? I can't and I miss it to death. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] complete newbie so hopefully easy questions
Hi all I bought Linux mandrake 8.1 a couple of months ago and have just recently installed it on my second system and so far like it so much that I think in the near future I may not even keep a windows machine and just run all Linux and Mac. I do have a couple of questions the first one which I think is very simple and I am just missing it How do you install tar.gz files I have downloaded quite a few apps for my system and I understand the rpm stuff just fine I am just a little confused about the tar.gz files. The other concern I can't seem to get my USB HP psc750 all in one to work it seems to configure in the set up yet it won't print just wondering if there is something blaringly obvious that I am doing wrong. I would also like to add that in the short time I have been subscribed to this list I have learned a lot of great information and hopefully as I get to be a bit more familiar with the inner workings of Linux I can return the favors and answer a few questions as well. HOUSE
[newbie] XMMS - Fast Play - SOS - (funny must read)
Linux is up to the same tricks as winders is 'mysteriously changing things' The senario: I wake up this morning and play some mp3s while i'm getting ready. (nothing harmful so far). Before i leave i lock my KDE screen. I get back tonight and fire up XMMS and push play and the chipmonks is singing and i'm thinking WTF did someone install winders? With a second look at my screen i notice the bright blue K button (Crystal icon set) and start to think is linux gonna start changing shit like winders did when i used it a long time ago. Then i decide to uninstall all the xmms packages. After thats done i say Son of a bitch because i let a friend borrow my mandrake CDs monday and won't see him for a few days. Then i head on over to rpmfind.net and download a few xmms packages and libxmms packages to meet the dependancies. After i get them installed i fire up good ole XMMS again and take a guess at what happens.i said guess...yep your right the revenge of the chipmonks singng there fast tunes. Then i point my browser to http://mail.yahoo.com and write this email. (yahoo is a bunch of fuckers for stoping pop access i hate the web interface) I ask you how do i fix this catastraphy of speedy lyrics and jimmy page playing faster than he had ever played before? On a side note: Does anyone know of a free email that gives free pop/smtp? I hate web interfaces, g. Thanks Brian __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
civileme wrote: giant snip *Hugs ya* HI :) And Yes you do have power. Build your own systems. Let the manufacturers who ship Windows and support Microsoft so steadfastly twist in the wind. Buy from their competitiors if they offer pre-installed linux. I do. Believe me. Refuse to let my partner buy any other way as well. Anyway, the important point is that you CAN remove windows and return it provided you never have used it or clicked OK to the license agreement. Only Dell requires the return of the entire system AFAIK. Civileme Hah! Does that apply only to the US Australia though? Here in canada I've heard nary a peep! Correct me if i'm wrong ? -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers
Miark wrote: Can anybody run openuniverse _after_ you install the nVidia drivers? I can't and I miss it to death. Miark If thats the one where you fly around like a person in a ship, Yes. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers
I have installed the drivers, and it works like a dream. Have you changed your xf86 config file correctly? -Original Message- From: FemmeFatale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 08:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers Miark wrote: Can anybody run openuniverse _after_ you install the nVidia drivers? I can't and I miss it to death. Miark If thats the one where you fly around like a person in a ship, Yes. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd, unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3 and a full partition
Mike Oliver wrote: Paul Vortex wrote: Please don't ask for receipts to be sent back to you via an email list. No offence, but it just seems intrusive. It does sort of seem like its own punishment, though, at least if people actually *send* the receipts. My guess is he did it by accident and won't do it again. Yeah i have got into the habit of sending receipts everytime to the list. If enough people do they will soon turn receipt requests off. Michael -- The angry man always thinks he can do more than he can. -- Albertano of Brescia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE3 and a full partition
I have them turned on automatically for work stuff, sorry. -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 08:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE3 and a full partition Mike Oliver wrote: Paul Vortex wrote: Please don't ask for receipts to be sent back to you via an email list. No offence, but it just seems intrusive. It does sort of seem like its own punishment, though, at least if people actually *send* the receipts. My guess is he did it by accident and won't do it again. Yeah i have got into the habit of sending receipts everytime to the list. If enough people do they will soon turn receipt requests off. Michael -- The angry man always thinks he can do more than he can. -- Albertano of Brescia -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd, unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] complete newbie so hopefully easy questions
House wrote: I do have a couple of questions the first one which I think is very simple and I am just missing it How do you install tar.gz files. HOUSE Sorry the other Q's I can't answer, but this one even *I* know ;) This is usually is a 2 step installation for Tar's. - type at a command prompt *in a Term, like Xterm*: tar xzvf /name/of/dir/here/nameofprogramtountar-2.1.0.tgz OR tar xjvf /name/of/dir/here/nameofprogramtountar-2.1.0.tgz [The first set of commands tar xzvf, are for files ending in .tar.gz or .tgz.] [The second set is for a Bzipped file ending in .tar.bz2 or .tbz2.] Now usually this will unzip/untar these files into a directory with the same name as the program under your Home dir. To compile install the software we do thusly: ./configure make su -c make install [This last line prompts for ROOTs password so enter it here]. If you want to change any of the options of the installer, type ./configure -help. Usually you can change the default location with the PREFIX argument too. *I'm cheating here, i'm getting 90% of this information from a Linux magazine. I knew some of the answers but thought it'd be best to be thorough for other newbs who need this type of thing laid out in simple easy to follow recipes*. Sue me, I'm learning too! -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Josef Lowder wrote: Any suggestions on how to efficiently cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail? I just signed up to the newbie and expert mail lists and I am overwhelmed by the volume of email. I created a new folder named linux and set the post address as [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinking that perhaps that would cause new incoming mail to go to that folder instead of cluttering up my inbox, but that doesn't work. Here's how I do it - it may not be perfect for everybody. I receive mail using Netscape 6.2. I have set up a newbie folder and created a filter which sends mail with [Newbie] in the subject line and/or newbie in the sender line to this folder. The messages in this folder are sorted by thread. I read those threads which seem relevant to me and delete the rest unread (probably about 2/3). You're right, there is a lot of traffic and I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't have time to read it all -- Graham Watkins For me, morning begins when I realize that the soft warm body curled up next to me is a cat. (Kinky Friedman - Frequent Flyer) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers
On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 01:11, Miark wrote: Can anybody run openuniverse _after_ you install the nVidia drivers? I can't and I miss it to death. Miark I just checked and it's running just fine on my system. BTW, I'm running 1.0-2802... LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cups problem in 8.2
I had the same problem with the same printer. What fixed it for me was doing a Mandrake update and selecting everything that mentioned cups. I believe there was a server update and filters and a couple of other related updates. I have a slow dialup so I kicked it off over night and the next morning I was printing fine. Roly On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:26, Brian Parish wrote: Well 8.2 does almost everything better than 8.1, but not with regard to my printer. I have a Canon S450, which worked faultlessly under 8.1, but under 8.2 the test page and anything else I print comes out double width. i.e. I only get the left hand side of my A4 page. It's as if it's try to print A3 landscape and running out of room. Anyone found this, or even better - a way around it? TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- The directions said to install Windows 98/2000 or better! So I installed Linux! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cups problem in 8.2
On Thursday 02 May 2002 08:26 am, you wrote: Well 8.2 does almost everything better than 8.1, but not with regard to my printer. I have a Canon S450, which worked faultlessly under 8.1, but under 8.2 the test page and anything else I print comes out double width. i.e. I only get the left hand side of my A4 page. It's as if it's try to print A3 landscape and running out of room. Anyone found this, or even better - a way around it? TIA Brian Hi Brian, I have the Canon S450 as well. It worked well in LM 8.0, although the output quality using CUPS was interesting -- I switched over to Turboprint. You really have to try turboprint -- the quality is simply outstanding! They have a driver for this model as well. A free d/l is available, and if I was ever to purchase software, turboprint pro would be well worth the $. I haven't used it so far in LM 8.2 (mainly because all my tanks are empty), but it's all set to go. http://www.turboprint.de hth, Andre -- Please pray the Holy Rosary to end the holocaust of abortion. Remember in your prayers the Holy Souls in Purgatory. May God bless you abundantly in His love! For a free Cenacle Scriptural Rosary Booklet: http://www.webhart.net/csrb/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] setting a 10/100 NIC 's speed
Hello everyone, Is it possible to manually set the NIC's card speed like in Windows ? I have a 10/100 ethernet PCMCI card and I dont want it to connect withe the 100 speed, where can I set this ?? Regards. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On 2 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: OK, success! Solution? Change the card. Stick in another nVidia Geforce 2 MX400 and bingo! Of course this card looks different, has a different manufacturer etc. etc., so it's not really surprising that some differences in compatibility are evident. But it just goes to show (I think) that the work done by nVidia on the Windoze side on testing and working around all the different nuances manufacturers use in implementing their chipset do pay off. Brian, this is good information, and I apologize for coming in on the thread a little late, but how does one tell the difference between those cards produced and tested on windows and those that are done for Linux? -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] setting a 10/100 NIC 's speed
On Thursday 02 May 2002 2:19 pm, Hanan Shargi wrote: Hello everyone, Is it possible to manually set the NIC's card speed like in Windows ? I have a 10/100 ethernet PCMCI card and I dont want it to connect withe the 100 speed, where can I set this ?? Regards. - Hanan AL-Shargi There is a 'media type' parameter in the iwconfig command. See 'man iwconfig' Not all drivers support it however. Usually the card will auto detect the rate. So if you can force your hub or whatever it is connected to, to 10Mbps then the pcmcia card will follow suit. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] LEXMARK Z52,Z53Pinter Page Margins / LM8.2
For some reason Qtcups no longer has a Printer page margins tab / GUI interface. However there is a Kstart/configure/printing/Adjust margins , provides a semi-commandline interface, which prints out a testpage from which you are supposed to gleen vital settings to type in and which are stored in /etc/cups/ppd/Z53a.ppd Fine, only the test page cuts off the last line, the vital one, so I cannot complete the settings properly,but this is the relevant entry in /etc/cups/ppd/Z53.ppd *OpenUI *Margins/Page Margins/Offsets: PickOne *DefaultMargins: Custom *Margins Default/Driver Default: *Margins Custom/Custom (set with 'alignmargins') : /.HWMargins[1 0.75 0.75 0.75] /Margins[1 1]setpagedevice *CloseUI: *Margins I believe it is the X and the Y values that are wrong as defined by /margins[1 1] above. Anyone got any idea what sort of value I should have. I would also like to know how to ensure these magins are adopted. regards, John ... -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFree 4.2 and SiS 620
In my case, I solved it by switching to 1024 x 768. for both Mandrake 8.1 and SuSe 7.2 7.3. Both Red Hat and Corel handled SiS 620 easily, But I dan't like working with either of them. Bob Flavio Figueiredo Cardoso wrote: XFree 4.2 doesn't run correctly on my system. The installation is OK, but after it the simple movement of the mouse is sufficient to distort the menus, the bottons, the icons etc. But there is no problem with XFree 3.3.6. Why? How can I use XFree 4.2? I observed the same problem in Mandrake 8.1! Mandrake 8.2 On board video card SiS 620 (with 8Mb) 128Mb RAM memory Intel Celeron 450MHz PS: this bad video card is very common here in Brazil, and many people have the same problem with Mandrake 8.2. Most of them are migrating to Conectiva 8.0 just because of this problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help on importing Ms Outlok Personal folders to Evolution ?
Hi Newbies question Is there some way I can convert mail items from MS Outlook personal folder files. I prefere to import them to Evolution if that ever would be possible. Any ideas and help would be apprechiated. --- just another Second Day Linux User - Eraisikute ja firmade kontaktandmete otsing - vajalik info kiiresti ja kohe saadaval! http://www.hot.ee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
AW: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
WHY NOT !?! don't you kow 'Tron' ... the laser on the beginning that scans that guy into the system ? :) i wish i'd have such a thingy ... arr :) scann the whole m$ biz into my linuxbox :) harhar ... --- ... XP , while X stands for cra -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von daRcmaTTeR Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Mai 2002 15:57 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove? Here is a thought. Why don't people uninstall Windows, then email the whole package in little files back to M$. That should screw up their mail-servers for a few months, and suggest that they should spend the next 3 or more years quietly working on a way to email their hardware back to them ;-) magnet clearly the first part wouldn't be a problem, but i have a feeling that the second aspect of that would be somewhat hard on the networks. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
If only! I think the answer is that if you buy generic, you takes your chance. In this case I bought two cards advertised as the same thing a few months apart from the same supplier, but of course all they have in common is the nVidia chipset. Maybe this is the justification for paying for the brand name??? Brian On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 23:23, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On 2 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: OK, success! Solution? Change the card. Stick in another nVidia Geforce 2 MX400 and bingo! Of course this card looks different, has a different manufacturer etc. etc., so it's not really surprising that some differences in compatibility are evident. But it just goes to show (I think) that the work done by nVidia on the Windoze side on testing and working around all the different nuances manufacturers use in implementing their chipset do pay off. Brian, this is good information, and I apologize for coming in on the thread a little late, but how does one tell the difference between those cards produced and tested on windows and those that are done for Linux? -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help on importing Ms Outlok Personal folders to Evolution ?
I use Claws now. But IIRC, that is covered in Evolutions helpYou must first import your PST file(s) into a program that utilizes the mbox format. From there you can import the mbox files directly into Evolution, under file import. HTH Dave Kristjan Klementi said onto me: -- |Hi | |Newbies question | |Is there some way I can convert mail items from MS Outlook personal folder files. I |prefere to import them to Evolution if that ever would be possible. | |Any ideas and help would be apprechiated. | | |--- |just another Second Day Linux User | | |- |Eraisikute ja firmade kontaktandmete otsing - vajalik info kiiresti ja kohe saadaval! |http://www.hot.ee | -- -- °°° David L. Steiner Registered Linux User #262493 Mandrake 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Sylpheed 0.7.4claws Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: www.davidlsteiner.com °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LAN with 2 IP's from DSL povider ?
Hanan, No - they are not on a LAN, they are sharing a path to the internet. But this can be changed very easily. Just set up the linux machine to share its internet connection and the W2K box uses this as a gateway. The connection to the DSL would then come from a 2nd NIC installed in the linux machine. This way your linux machine can firewall your W2K box and both machines can share resources, including the internet. Obviously this requires you to install an additional NIC, but they are cheap! If you need more specific help on how to go about it, just post again - lots of people here have done this many times. HTH Brian On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 11:01, Hanan Shargi wrote: Hi, picture this setting : linux box with 10.x.x.x IP ( IP prvided by the DSL provider ) HUB W2K box with 10.x.x.y IP ( another IP prvided by the DSL provider ) the two boxes connects to a HUB and the UP-link on the HUB connects to the DSL coming from the phone line on the wall ( the DSL ) technically speaking, are these two machines considered to be on one LAN ?! If so ... How can these 2 mahines be set to see each others drives and share a printer ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
Here is a thought. Why don't people uninstall Windows, then email the whole package in little files back to M$. That should screw up their mail-servers for a few months, and suggest that they should spend the next 3 or more years quietly working on a way to email their hardware back to them ;-) magnet clearly the first part wouldn't be a problem, but i have a feeling that the second aspect of that would be somewhat hard on the networks. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cups problem in 8.2
OK - downloading now - also on a slow dialup. Should have tried that first I guess - not used to the updates actually fixing things ;-) Thanks and regards Brian On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 22:48, Roland Hughes wrote: I had the same problem with the same printer. What fixed it for me was doing a Mandrake update and selecting everything that mentioned cups. I believe there was a server update and filters and a couple of other related updates. I have a slow dialup so I kicked it off over night and the next morning I was printing fine. Roly On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:26, Brian Parish wrote: Well 8.2 does almost everything better than 8.1, but not with regard to my printer. I have a Canon S450, which worked faultlessly under 8.1, but under 8.2 the test page and anything else I print comes out double width. i.e. I only get the left hand side of my A4 page. It's as if it's try to print A3 landscape and running out of room. Anyone found this, or even better - a way around it? TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- The directions said to install Windows 98/2000 or better! So I installed Linux! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Downloads
Sometimes , while attempting to download a file , after clicking on the chosen file,instead of a download windowlet , the files seems to end up as programme code displayed on the website window, why is this and what do I do about it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Thu, 2 May 2002 12:57:13 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 10:13, FemmeFatale wrote: civileme wrote: giant snip *Hugs ya* HI :) And Yes you do have power. Build your own systems. Let the manufacturers who ship Windows and support Microsoft so steadfastly twist in the wind. Buy from their competitiors if they offer pre-installed linux. I do. Believe me. Refuse to let my partner buy any other way as well. Anyway, the important point is that you CAN remove windows and return it provided you never have used it or clicked OK to the license agreement. Only Dell requires the return of the entire system AFAIK. Civileme Hah! Does that apply only to the US Australia though? Here in canada I've heard nary a peep! Here in Turkey you normally get a computer installed with a pirate copy of Windows! Sir Robin hmm.. same as here, but that's not enough. simply by using their crap we are feeding the monster.. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation
Worked perfect. Thanks! Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph Braddock Sent: April 30, 2002 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation You haven't installed KDE3 yet! The urpmi.addmedia simply adds the directory to the list of sources used by urpmi and the Mandrake Software Manger (such as Mandrake CD1, CD2, etc). To actually install KDE3, go back to the directory where you have the files (/home/MyName/kde3 in your posting). Once there, root, do a urpmi * and that will install it. Joe On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:34:25 -0700 Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You rule! That worked perfect to get Gnome and the other window makers added. One problem though. I added KDE twice to the list hoping one would be for KDE 2.2.2 and the other for 3.0 but when I try to log in with either I get old KDE 2.2.2 Did I install KDE 3.0 incorrectly? I followed instructions that were posted in a message to someone else hoping it would work for me. This is what I did to install it: cd /home/MyName/kde3 urpmi.addmedia kde3 file:///home/MyName/kde3 I'm currently using Mandrake 8.2 if that matters. Thanks again for all the help you guys/girls have been offering. It's greatly appreciated. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph Braddock Sent: April 28, 2002 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation Assuming you are using KDM login shell, login with the default session. Hopefully, that will open up either KDE or Gnome. Next go to the K or foot menu and go to Configuration. Go to KDE, then System, the Login Manager. There should be a tab called Sessions. At the bottom, there should be a section called Session Types. Manually add Gnome and KDE back to the list. Capitalization is important so it must be exactly Gnome and KDE (without the quotes of course). Joe On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:44:52 -0700 Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question regarding install of KDE 3.0 on Mandrake 8.2 I followed your instructions of: cd /home/MyName/kde3 urpmi.addmedia kde3 file:///home/MyName/kde3 And I logout and when I get to the login screen I only have 2 options in my Session Type drop down box. The first option is default and the second option is failsafe. I should have Gnome in here as well as the other window makers since I have them installed. Another question while I'm at it. When I start up Mandrake 8.2 it never asks me what user I want to login and automatically logs me in. I would rather be prompted as to which user I want to login with. I used to know how to do this but I don't remember. Thanks for your time, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alastair Scott Sent: April 26, 2002 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE 3 On Friday 26 April 2002 7:10 pm, you wrote: While we are on the topic, I also installed KDE3, and it rocks. Played around with some of the icon settings and it looks great (Screen shot http://nixit.ca/KDE3.png ). Definitely making the switch (at least until Gnome 2 comes out). It's strangely similar to my desktop :) http://www.thebrixton.btinternet.co.uk/kde3desktop.png (the font is Frutiger Linotype; you get it installed with Microsoft Reader www.eu.microsoft.com/reader). One thing tho, everytime I login, the KDE startup wizard loads up and asks me a bunch of questions, how can I disable this. I tried through the wizard but it still loads up everytime I start KDE3. (THis is not the mandrake first time startup wizard). This is a 'known bug' and the fix is near the bottom of this excellent guide to KDE3 quirks: http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2048 Create or edit the file '~/.kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc'. Put this line into it: FirstLogin=false Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Wed, 1 May 2002, civileme wrote: That's right. You do not own your computer if you use windows because you can do only what is permitted by the EULA. Some versions of the EULA that you click to agree to allow Microsoft to modify the EULA without notice. This happened to many folks who bought NT workstation planning to use it as a server with Netscape Enterprise. In the blink of a Microsoft attorney's eye, the EULA was changed to permit no more than 10 simultaneous connections, and NT workstation users had to upgrade to NT server (which, incidentally came with IIS for 'free'). I was one of those who said to myself Have to? while rubbing the egg off my face for not reading the EULA before clicking it. I turned to linux and never looked back. But actually if you read earlier EULAs, the rub is that if you don't agree, you must return the software. I have done that. I know others have done that. One woman managed to get a refund of the microsoft 'tax' after six months of wrangling with eMachines. When that splashed in the news and others started to move toward returning the windows, Michael Dell popped up and said with Dell you have to return the whole system. I haven't bought a Dell since and I never recommend them, not only for that reason but also because they are short-cutting the real hardware and making their boards proprietary. Many times I have tried to help someone with Aureal drivers only to learn they have a Turtle Beach card from Dell which is just different enough not to work with anything but Dell issue drivers. [small snip] well...there's another one to add to the they suck list. -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Downloads
John, Your browser thinks it's text, so it's displaying it in the browser window. Instead of just clicking on it, right-click it and select Save Linx As Miark John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Sometimes , while attempting to download a file , after clicking on the chosen file,instead of a download windowlet , the files seems to end up as programme code displayed on the website window, why is this and what do I do about it. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:57, Robin Turner wrote: Here in Turkey you normally get a computer installed with a pirate copy of Windows! Sir Robin Here in the US, there's a version of XP running around that has all M internet contact ability ripped out of the core. It installs without contacting M$, and does not do the customary updating after the XP installation is complete. In fact, this version supposedly never contacts M$ EVER. I've had it offered to me by some insiders; but since I have converted completely to Linux (Mandrake) I declined. Anything that smacks of M$ these days is completely repulsive. Which I have a little different perspective on that these days than most, since I and some of my friends been involved in the computer industry from the Dos-only days. Unfortunately I've grokked the M$ entity very thoroughly; therefore my disgust is complete and total. As a matter of fact, a friend was happily talking to me last night about the latest virus software, and some of the latest wiz-bang winblows hole-fixer software, and some of the problems they had circumvented surrounding Outlook. I hate to admit it, but I found my eyes glazing over as I was totally disinterested. From a Mandrake standpoint, it's like peering through a looking glass into another world, where the computer users there are enslaved and suffering, and yet don't see the yokes on their backs. It's gotten to be very surreal. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing Printer Icon
One thing you might try if you want to know what is or isn't on your hard drive is: 'whereis' . Locates the binary, source, and manual page files for a command. Or if you like the GUI way, Kpackage has the find file option. But if the file you're searching for is installed from tarball kpackage won't find it because the rpm-database consists of info about installed rpms only. Cheers, J. -- In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded. -- Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies On Wednesday 01 May 2002 23:31, Kaj Haulrich wrote: 8 So let me rephrase : Let's pretend I'm a total and genuine newbie, who just purchased Mandrake 8.2 with great expectations. Everything is running like a charm. Then one fine day a want to find a file or some files. I use all the various GUI's to browse the menus for a find file(s) utility, but : zero, nada, nil, nothing. - Back to ye ole CLI : no slocate ! - Only thing to spring into my newbie mind is from / : tree -a | grep something. But then, what with the time this takes, I'm no newbie anymore, am I ? Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] LF: Excerpt from XF86Config-4
Heyo, I'm wondering if someone could post an excerpt from the XF86Config-4 File which shows the code for a regular PS/2 mouse (IE: The InputDevice Section) Aswell, if anyone has any experience getting both a USB and PS/2 Mouse working under XFree86 I'd love any tips/hints. NB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] complete newbie so hopefully easy questions
I don't have experience on HP printers so I can only redirect you to: http://www.linuxprinting.org If there are special tricks to get your printer working, linuxprinting.org usually knows about them. Cheers, J. -- In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded. -- Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies On Thursday 02 May 2002 09:50, House wrote: The other concern I can't seem to get my USB HP psc750 all in one to work it seems to configure in the set up yet it won't print just wondering if there is something blaringly obvious that I am doing wrong. I would also like to add that in the short time I have been subscribed to this list I have learned a lot of great information and hopefully as I get to be a bit more familiar with the inner workings of Linux I can return the favors and answer a few questions as well. HOUSE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LAN with 2 IP's from DSL povider ?
Thank you Brian, but the point is I already had this connection sharing, and I was able to set it up with the help of some list members ( infact you were the one who helped me out alot back then :) ) but the problem is that while having this sharing, and Linux was used as a firewall, and Bastille was running...etc. I had performance problems, my connection used to go down a lot, and when I contacted the ISP their technician came in and said that the reason why I was getting disconnected is becoz the NIC was trying to connect with a 100 speed while the line can only handle 10, thats why i was getting disconnected too often. He said he didnt know how to force the card to connect with 10 under linux, so he offered me a new IP ( without paying for it though :) I posted another question on the list asking if I can force the card to connect with 10 speed, Isnt there a way to concet both PCs while them having the 2 IP's ? I really liked the idea coz back then my w2k machine had to get off the net whenever I needed to take my notebook ( the linux machine ) with me to school ( which used to piss off my 4 years old son as he couldnt surf pbskids.org while I wasnt at home :) ) I just need them to be on the same LAN so that i can share the printer and browse both hard drives using samba. ():-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Wed, 1 May 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: What M$ wants isn't fair still IMO. That means that you don't own that OS. Your example is *considering this is M$'s logic if it is true* flawed. Basically taht means my Pre-loaded OS isn't mine to sell, keep or give away with my hardware or w/out it. Thats absurd. Its like saying, I bought an apple I have no right to give it away w/out giving away the piemakings I had ready to use with it too. yeah...they want your money, but they don't want you to have the right of self-determination of the object that you've bought and paid for. It's to be theirs forever no matter where it is. they're really messed up people, ya know? -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Open Universe and nVidia drivers
On Thursday 02 May 2002 12:11 am, you wrote: Can anybody run openuniverse _after_ you install the nVidia drivers? I can't and I miss it to death. Miark It runs for me, I just can't leave it on, once the screen saver comes on it appears to lock up my machine. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LF: Excerpt from XF86Config-4
At 12:55 PM 5/2/2002 -0400, you wrote: Heyo, I'm wondering if someone could post an excerpt from the XF86Config-4 File which shows the code for a regular PS/2 mouse (IE: The InputDevice Section) Aswell, if anyone has any experience getting both a USB and PS/2 Mouse working under XFree86 I'd love any tips/hints. NB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I've got both a usb and a ps/2 mouse working... Try this: In your XF86Config-4 file, go to the InputDevice section It should say something like: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Now add another section below it that says: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse2 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/usbmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Then at the very bottom of the file you should see: Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 Screen screen1 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection Add this line right below the Mouse1 line: InputDevice Mouse2 SendCoreEvents Restart your X server and you should be in business. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
not only in yurkey my friend , not only there :) !!! swiss aren't the legalest too ... and you can install every version of XP you want , there are thousands of good tools out there , to keep your XP in your box and don't let it send anything out you don't want to be sent ... ! at least i hate m$ too , but i try to help my friends which aren't that linuxfriendly as i am to get 'free copies' , a broadbandconnection an edonkey and irc does the rest ... keep the net free !!! Am Don, 2002-05-02 um 18.33 schrieb Lyvim Xaphir: On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 05:57, Robin Turner wrote: Here in Turkey you normally get a computer installed with a pirate copy of Windows! Sir Robin Here in the US, there's a version of XP running around that has all M internet contact ability ripped out of the core. It installs without contacting M$, and does not do the customary updating after the XP installation is complete. In fact, this version supposedly never contacts M$ EVER. I've had it offered to me by some insiders; but since I have converted completely to Linux (Mandrake) I declined. Anything that smacks of M$ these days is completely repulsive. Which I have a little different perspective on that these days than most, since I and some of my friends been involved in the computer industry from the Dos-only days. Unfortunately I've grokked the M$ entity very thoroughly; therefore my disgust is complete and total. As a matter of fact, a friend was happily talking to me last night about the latest virus software, and some of the latest wiz-bang winblows hole-fixer software, and some of the problems they had circumvented surrounding Outlook. I hate to admit it, but I found my eyes glazing over as I was totally disinterested. From a Mandrake standpoint, it's like peering through a looking glass into another world, where the computer users there are enslaved and suffering, and yet don't see the yokes on their backs. It's gotten to be very surreal. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] VNC on MDK 8.2 - keyboard problem
Is anyone else using the VNC which came with MDK 8.2? I can start the server, start the viewer on my laptop and everything looks great, except that key presses don't get through to the remote desktop. They seem to go to the shell I launched the viewer from. The mouse works fine. RichardA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ta foda
será q alguém de bom senso desta lista pode me dizetr como sair? não posso mais ficar apagando 200 mails por dia e não tenho tempo pra isto. vou começar a apelar com msgs indesejadas se não me tirarem daki. fui. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Downloads
On Thursday 02 May 2002 4:32 pm, you wrote: Sometimes , while attempting to download a file , after clicking on the chosen file,instead of a download windowlet , the files seems to end up as programme code displayed on the website window, why is this and what do I do about it. John Well this depends on which browser you are using. If it is konqueror clicking on a download will normally open the dialogue saying 'Save Open or Cancel' 'Save' will save the file to your hard drive while 'Open' will open the file using the application associated with that file suffix defined in KDE ControlCentreFile BrowsingFile Associations If the application for that file type is 'embedded file viewer' then it will do as you describe and show the file contents in the konqueror window. It is real easy to alter the file associations and use a different application to handle that file type. IF you are not using konqueror of course, then everything I have just written is wrong ;-) derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] complete newbie so hopefully easy questions
There is an update available to drakprint which helps multi function printers. Check out http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/2002/MDKA-2002-004.php?dis=8.2 derek Subject: Re: [newbie] complete newbie so hopefully easy questions Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:37:28 +0300 From: Jussi Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have experience on HP printers so I can only redirect you to: http://www.linuxprinting.org If there are special tricks to get your printer working, linuxprinting.org usually knows about them. Cheers, J. -- In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded. -- Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies On Thursday 02 May 2002 09:50, House wrote: The other concern I can't seem to get my USB HP psc750 all in one to work it seems to configure in the set up yet it won't print just wondering if there is something blaringly obvious that I am doing wrong. I would also like to add that in the short time I have been subscribed to this list I have learned a lot of great information and hopefully as I get to be a bit more familiar with the inner workings of Linux I can return the favors and answer a few questions as well. HOUSE --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Yahoo idea was:Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play...
On Thursday 02 May 2002 01:53 am, Brian York wrote: On a side note: Does anyone know of a free email that gives free pop/smtp? I hate web interfaces, g. Thanks Brian Lookie what I discovered today. Apparently it's been around a while, but it's neato and it works. :D http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/index.html -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ta foda
On Thu, 02 May 2002 15:16:54 -0300 J. Castro Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: será q alguém de bom senso desta lista pode me dizetr como sair? não posso mais ficar apagando 200 mails por dia e não tenho tempo pra isto. vou começar a apelar com msgs indesejadas se não me tirarem daki. fui. how about unsubscribing? di--head. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Robin Turner wrote: Here in Turkey you normally get a computer installed with a pirate copy of Windows! Sir Robin ROFLMAO... ha! i hope they're listening...Robin, that was great! -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How does one get a joystic to work ?
On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:13 am, Rob Lofland wrote: Using a Logitech 3d Extreme on LM 8.2 USB port. Control panel says the joystick is unknown. Thanks, Rob modprobe usb-uhci modprobe input modprobe joydev modprobe adi or put in /etc/modules.conf: alias char-major-13 input joydev adi -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Yahoo idea was:Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play...
On Thursday 02 May 2002 2:44 pm, s wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 01:53 am, Brian York wrote: On a side note: Does anyone know of a free email that gives free pop/smtp? I hate web interfaces, g. Thanks Brian Lookie what I discovered today. Apparently it's been around a while, but it's neato and it works. :D http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/index.html -s So that will still let you get yahoo mail for free through pop?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake randomly locks me out of /home
Mike Oliver wrote: Mike Oliver wrote: [Mandrake 8.2, kernel 2.4.18] Every now and then, without warning and a propos of nothing, the permissions on my /home directory suddenly change to drwx--. Upgrading msec to 0.21 fixed the problem. Spoke too soon, sorry. The problem is still there in 0.21. Here's what I think is happening: In /usr/msec/perm.4, which presumably is the permissions msec is supposed to set (mask?) at security level 4, the following lines appear (among others): /home/root.adm751 /home/* current 700 This should mean (I think) that /home should be owned by root, have group adm, and have permissions rwxr-x--x, whereas everything *in* /home should have its current owner and group, and permissions rwx--. But instead the * is resolved as including the /home directory itself, and its permissions get reset to rwx--. I changed the /home/* line to 711, and it now seems to avoid locking me out of my home directory, but obviously it's not doing just what it's supposed to be doing. I am really surprised that no one else seems to have found this bug. The only relevant thing I can think of that's different about my system is that I have /home mounted from its own partition, but that must be very common. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing Printer Icon
On Thursday 02 May 2002 06:42 pm, Jussi Aalto wrote: One thing you might try if you want to know what is or isn't on your hard drive is: 'whereis' . Locates the binary, source, and manual page files for a command. Or if you like the GUI way, Kpackage has the find file option. But if the file you're searching for is installed from tarball kpackage won't find it because the rpm-database consists of info about installed rpms only. Cheers, J. Thanks Jussi ! - Only I wondered why those find utilities was missing from a straightforward and clean install of 8.2 when they were present in 7.0 up to 8.1 ? But maybe I screwed something up - won't be the first time ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Yahoo idea was:Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play...
On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:06 pm, Brian York wrote: http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/index.html -s So that will still let you get yahoo mail for free through pop?? not sure really. when is that supposed to happen? it works now tho I never signed up for pop mail service. I'd keep an eye on the project real close following that yahoo change if it ceases to function. Otherwise that other service I told you about is nice. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] An error occurred basesystem package not selected
On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:13 am, Lou Ronnau wrote: I'm attempting a first time installation of the 8.2 PowerPack on a Toshiba Tecra 520CDT. Although it's not on the supported list of laptops, the 500 and 530 are there. After the partition format the install manual shows a selection of Choose packages to install, this does not appear on the 520, the next bullet is install system. After the format partitions function takes place there is a pop up dialog window titled Package Group Selection. This window is mostly empty. Is this correct? I had the same thing, exactly. My problem seemed to be the CPU (AMD K6-2). Civileme (of course) pointed me to the solution : Download a patch. Instructions for this are on the Mandrake Home Page under Errata. HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LF: Excerpt from XF86Config-4
On 02 May 2002 12:55:50 -0400 Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heyo, I'm wondering if someone could post an excerpt from the XF86Config-4 File which shows the code for a regular PS/2 mouse (IE: The InputDevice Section) Aswell, if anyone has any experience getting both a USB and PS/2 Mouse working under XFree86 I'd love any tips/hints. NB #Mouse section I have a USB One hooked through the KB.# Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice #Option ChordMiddle My best advice is to load LM8.2 as a ps/2 mouse. Then with mouseconf in a term or drakconf, change to USB. I had problems otherwise. Also I found the USB mouse far more responsive. HTH Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LF: Excerpt from XF86Config-4
For the person who asked for my XF86Config-4 vid card section here it is: * Section Device Identifier Generic VGA Driver vga EndSection Section Device Identifier NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver nvidia #VideoRam32768 # Clock lines # instead of the cursor! #Option sw_cursor Option NoLogo on Option DPMS off #Added in from a tweak text Option CursorShadow on Option CursorShadowXOffset 2 Option CursorShadowYOffset 1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic) Monitor NEC|NEC MultiSync FE950 DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x400 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 32 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 Screen screen1 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thursday 02 May 2002 01:53 am, Mcleod, Ian wrote: BTW - 10 points for anyone that can guess the Old English origin of 'whelmed' Ian McLeod Well Ian, here's my guess : English : overwhelmed, Danish : overvældet. In danish (and the other nordic dialects) vælde means power force mighty. The word is often used in context with the ocean - of which we have plenty here. A huge amount of the nordic languages was absorbed into english around 900 - 1200 when most of Britain was under danelaw. Reading Shakespeare illustrates this well. And to add to your vocabulary : in danish a sjuft is a villain, a crook, a criminal. Accordingly, a notorious software-company here is called Microsjuft. Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Yahoo idea was:Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play...
On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:06 pm, Brian York wrote: http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/index.html -s So that will still let you get yahoo mail for free through pop?? Well, I emailed the author and he states, Yahoo has already changed their free pop mail policy and no longer allows use of their pop service for free accounts. fetchyahoo was written to overcome this and logs into the webmail interface just like a person would. It does not use the pop service at all. If Yahoo! changed the format of their webmail website then I would have to update fetchyahoo to reflect those changes. But so far things have been working out pretty well. hth, -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RPM Build
Is there any way to continiue an interrupted rpm-build session.I was rebuilding XFree86-4.2 using: $rpm -bb XFree.spec but I closed the konsole by accident short before the end of a long compiling session. Thanks in advance for any help _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re:OT
Lighten up, Nick..He's only addressing the fools using MS. Some non-fools use MS too, i think.(I do) It's all in fun, anyway. Welcome aboard. Lee On Thursday 02 May 2002 09:21 pm, Nick Andriash wrote: On Thursday, May 02 2002 at 05:17 PM PDT, you wrote: A fool and his money are soon using Windows. I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. -- Registered Linux abuser #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice 6 - the different perceptions explained
Hi Nick, I used Windows from 3.1 to 98. I now use Linux. I do not take offense to Shane's signature and I feel you are overreacting. Lighten up Linux is about having fun. Mike Nick Andriash wrote: On Thursday, May 02 2002 at 05:17 PM PDT, you wrote: A fool and his money are soon using Windows. I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Mike Larson Registered Linux User # 246593 http://counter.li.org/ Linux Mandrake 8.2 Mozilla 0.9.8 If Bill Gates had a nickel for everytime Windows crashed..oh wait,he does! - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice 6 - the different perceptions explained
I agree whole heartedly with you on this subject. The unfortunate part is that there appear to be no moderators on this list. I wish people would stop taking such a negative attitude to windows, we were all windows users at one point. NB On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 21:21, Nick Andriash wrote: On Thursday, May 02 2002 at 05:17 PM PDT, you wrote: A fool and his money are soon using Windows. I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Simple Programming application
Dear All, Some months ago I asked about a programming app for Linux that was simple and easy to learn and some of you gave me a name of one that I just cannot remember. It was something like Enterprise? but I am sure it was not the Java Enterprise. Maybe it was a different name than that. It was around December, of 2001 that I asked for this I believe. The archives do not seem to go back that far for searching. Does anyone know what program this could have been? Sorry to have such sketchy info about it. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:OT
On Thursday 02 May 2002 09:21 pm, Nick Andriash wrote: On Thursday, May 02 2002 at 05:17 PM PDT, you wrote: A fool and his money are soon using Windows. I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. Hmm, many Widnows users call linux users communists, will this make you wipe windows off your computer? Maximum PC just published an article where the author called linux people: commie, penguin-loving, free-software nuts Authers name is Dick Matthews if anyone is interested. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice 6 - the different perceptions explained
On 03 May 2002 09:56:09 +1000 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick note on SO6. I have seen claims here that it opens everything faultlessly and that it crashes and is totally useless. It turns out that both are true :-) Try to open a word doc file received as an attachment with the Open in StarOffice dialog - crash! Try to open a word doc in the same way from Konq - crash. Open SO6, then use the File Open on the same docs - no problem. It may not be faultless, but used this way it looks pretty good to me so far. Hopefully Sun and/or Mandrake will make the open with way of doing things work soon. Could actually be a Mandrake issue I guess. HTH Brian oh i've found OpenOffice 1.0 ( released just a couple of days ago ) to be s much better than any other Linux Office suite.. just an example. try to open a PowerPoint presentation, but not pps format, which would normally open in M$ Powerpoint, but the other one, the ppt, which in windoze simply starts the presentation after double-clicking it. try to open a ppt file in OpenOffice 6* try to open a ppt file in StarOffice * you will be lucky if it doesn't just segfault on you. but OO 1.0 opens it no problem! now i can delete wine. hehehehe. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] disk partition copied using tar and now 50% larger
I am using Mandrake Linux 8.0 with two IDE hard drives in my system. I created a partition on the second hard drive and then copied a partition from the first drive over to the second drive and it significantly increased in size. More details: I use ext2 for my hard drive partitions. I used `tar clf - / | (cd /mnt/root; tar xpf -)` to copy the root partition. I configured the second partition with blocking factors of 1024, 2048, and 4096. With a blocking factor of 1024, the second partition (/dev/hdd5) ran out of space. I list the results of the df command below for the other blocking factors in parenthesis. Does anyone have any ideas? [root@mike /]# df -k Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 3984672 3077788704468 81% / /dev/hdd5 5605138 4366408953980 82% /mnt/root (2048 byte blocks) /dev/hdd5 5605536 4578828741960 86% /mnt/root (4096 byte blocks) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Yahoo idea was:Re: [newbie] XMMS - Fast Play...
Did anyone get the first part of this message about xmms playing songs fast and how to fix it? On Thursday 02 May 2002 4:21 pm, s wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 03:06 pm, Brian York wrote: http://web.mit.edu/ravir/fetchyahoo/index.html -s So that will still let you get yahoo mail for free through pop?? not sure really. when is that supposed to happen? it works now tho I never signed up for pop mail service. I'd keep an eye on the project real close following that yahoo change if it ceases to function. Otherwise that other service I told you about is nice. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SuSe 8 Good/Bad
I remember you saying that but once other distros may have been way better than mandrake and then mandrake got better and beat them with a new version of suse they could have gotten better thats why i want feed back from 8 not a colmanation of suse versions. :-) Thanks Brian On Thursday 02 May 2002 8:29 pm, shane wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 00:08, Brian York opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: 1) I am considering giveing Suse a try any positive or negative thoughts that Suse 8 (Only suse 8) users may have. i have _not_ used 8 yet. but. i have said before and will say again, there are 2 distros that work worth paying for, SuSE and Mandrake. Mandrake is just a bit better, their support (and mail lists!) a bit nicer, theirapproach a bit more they way i want it. SuSE scores 4 and a half outta 5, mandrake gets 5. pure opinion. yes i know, you said 8. i have tried 4 versions of SuSE and 6 of Mandrake. this was the case every time. is thre a reason 8 will be different? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice 6 - the different perceptions explained
On Thursday 02 May 2002 07:21 pm, Nick Andriash offered this for consideration: On Thursday, May 02 2002 at 05:17 PM PDT, you wrote: A fool and his money are soon using Windows. I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. ~ Mr. Andriash; I use windows too. To look out of, to allow fresh air in, to yell at the neighbor's dog to shut up at 3:00 AM. Other things as well..Speaking of 'lighten up' time. No matter how the parasites in the legal profession that are on retainer to a mega-corporation in Washington would like to convince the world otherwise that company does not own the word Windows. The thing that astounds me (and a few other 'inhabitants' of this and other mailing lists I have no doubt) is the defensiveness of some people when an admittedly cheap shot is directed towards any/all things Microsoft. The entire point of the Open Source movement is choice and freedom. Use what you like, please; but don't try to censor (or censure) the freely stated opinions of others that are of a helpful bent. Such as Shane. A signature that isn't attached to a message directed at yourself is no excuse to deride someone for expressing an opinion. You're welcome to ask questions and receive the benefits of the community I believe; but I'd be curious to know why you take offense at something that was intended as a jest. A sense of humour ; while not a prerequisite to utilizing Linux, is beneficial in many other endeavors and is of great value when dealing with Personal Confusers. Proudly Microsoft free for 26 months and counting, Sincerely; Charlie in Edmonton, AB, Canada Mandrake 8.2 user 244963 at http://counter.li.org 8:08pm up 1 day, 15:42, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.05, 1.14 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake randomly locks me out of /home
Mike Oliver wrote: Mike Oliver wrote: Mike Oliver wrote: [Mandrake 8.2, kernel 2.4.18] Every now and then, without warning and a propos of nothing, the permissions on my /home directory suddenly change to drwx--. Upgrading msec to 0.21 fixed the problem. Spoke too soon, sorry. The problem is still there in 0.21. Here's what I think is happening: In /usr/msec/perm.4, which presumably is the permissions msec is supposed to set (mask?) at security level 4, the following lines appear (among others): /home/root.adm751 /home/* current 700 This should mean (I think) that /home should be owned by root, have group adm, and have permissions rwxr-x--x, whereas everything *in* /home should have its current owner and group, and permissions rwx--. But instead the * is resolved as including the /home directory itself, and its permissions get reset to rwx--. I changed the /home/* line to 711, and it now seems to avoid locking me out of my home directory, but obviously it's not doing just what it's supposed to be doing. I am really surprised that no one else seems to have found this bug. The only relevant thing I can think of that's different about my system is that I have /home mounted from its own partition, but that must be very common. Mike, i wonder if these are processed in order from first to last and simply reversing the order you give above would fix the prob. I am pleased my earlier bungled attempt at helping put you on the right track anyway. Michael -- Some people live life in the fast lane. You're in oncoming traffic. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT over reacting
On Thursday 02 May 2002 18:21, Nick Andriash opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I am/was beginning to experiment with Linux using Mandrake 8.2 but am disheartened to see signatures such as yours. How typical of Linux Users... and almost enough to make me gag and want to wipe Linux off my Computer. take a breath, read the other comments on the list about microsoft, like how they claim it is against the law to remove it once installed. ask yourself if a company thats motto was once DOS ain't done till lotus won't run and that created an error message in windows to get ppl to stop using another companies DOS is one you trust? Tell me something Shane... Why do you feel Windows Users are fools? cause i have my MCP and i know the majority of ppl using windows are doing so because they believe and ad on TV/it came installed, not because it fits what they use their machine for. I use Windows... am I a fool in your eyes? do you honestly think windows is the way to go without investigating other options? wait, you are on this list, question answered? You don't even know me, so where do you get off labelling me as one... and putting something like that in your signature? if it were not for immoral the behavior of the company that makes windows i would recommend it. because of that behavior, i can't. because of that behavior i think anyone who gives their money to a company bent on trapping them into a proprietary world is behaving foolishly. No wonder Users are slow to try Linux, what with greetings like yours. I am amazed that the List Moderators haven't said anything to you. shockingly, freedom of speech is something that the open source ppl think highly of. welcome to linux. note sig file below. -- Microsoft: The company that made email dangerous. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice 6 - the different perceptions explained
On Thursday 02 May 2002 04:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote: Just a quick note on SO6. I have seen claims here that it opens everything faultlessly and that it crashes and is totally useless. It turns out that both are true :-) Try to open a word doc file received as an attachment with the Open in StarOffice dialog - crash! Try to open a word doc in the same way from Konq - crash. Open SO6, then use the File Open on the same docs - no problem. It may not be faultless, but used this way it looks pretty good to me so far. Hopefully Sun and/or Mandrake will make the open with way of doing things work soon. Could actually be a Mandrake issue I guess. HTH Brian I am using the OpenOffice version of StarOffice. I have not had any problems with it. I open Micorosoft documents (Word, Excell), edit them and save them in those formats without any problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kmail problems
In Kmail under LM 8.2, when attempting to fill in the To:, CC:, or BCC fields, I get an error message the moment I begin to type an email address. The error box header is File Error and says Could not load the file. Clicking OK gives another box saying Kmail crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). Clicking Close on that error box causes it and Kmail to close down. Any ideas? Kmail was working OK before. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
On Thursday 02 May 2002 20:24, Brian Koppe opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool what is your mail client? wait looks like mozilla, yes? try going to view sort by thread. may be wrong, don't recall, been using kmail for what seems like forever. -- you can have peace or freedom, but never count on both at once -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Simple Programming application
Marcia wrote: Dear All, Some months ago I asked about a programming app for Linux that was simple and easy to learn and some of you gave me a name of one that I just cannot remember. It was something like Enterprise? but I am sure it was not the Java Enterprise. Maybe it was a different name than that. It was around December, of 2001 that I asked for this I believe. The archives do not seem to go back that far for searching. Does anyone know what program this could have been? Sorry to have such sketchy info about it. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia Marcia, Check this out http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 Scroll down to the ARCHIVES heading and and read away. Aw hell, im feeling magnanamous, here you go. http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ On that i beleive the top thread may be your one you are enquiring about. (Dunno, I havent opened it) Cheers Michael -- If a person is FAMOUS in this country, they have to go on the ROAD for MONTHS at a time and have their name misspelled on the SIDE of a GREYHOUND SCENICRUISER!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to cope with the volume of linux-mandrake mail?
Wow - how'd you know it was Mozilla? Thanks btw, it works shane wrote: On Thursday 02 May 2002 20:24, Brian Koppe opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: How do you sort by thread? That'd be really cool what is your mail client? wait looks like mozilla, yes? try going to view sort by thread. may be wrong, don't recall, been using kmail for what seems like forever. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Brian says: Use Mozilla for your browsing, e-mail, and IRC needs! v 0.9.9 available for free at http://www.mozilla.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installare pacchetti TGZ - Java VM
Tamalandia3 wrote: Premetto che sono nuovo della mailist. Ho appena installato Mandrake 8.1 perchè l'8.2 mi dava problemi con la connessione adsl. Ho scaricato un programma e mi richede VM. Ho scaricato un altro pacchetto che credo che sia VM. E' un TGZ. Provo a installarlo con Gestione pacchetti ma a differenza dei pacchetti RPM l'installazione non parte e vicino ai nomi di tutti i file del pacchetto compare un ?. Come devo fare? C'è qualche settaggio da fare? Grazie ANDREA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Caro Andrea. Forse avete desiderato unire la lista denominata [EMAIL PROTECTED] Questo è per la lingua inglese. Temo mio parlare in italiano sono molto limitato, in modo da 'non lo penso posso rispondere alla vostra domanda completamente. Infatti, lo penso non posso capirlo, ma qui sono come installare 'un tarball 'che è che cosa denominiamo lime di tar.gz. Trasferisca la lima dal sistema centrale verso i satelliti ad un indice Cd a quell'indice usando una finestra terminale cd /home/user/tarballs per esempio ./configure make su password(enter la vostra parola d'accesso della radice) faccia per installare e make install Potete provare il checkinstall preferibilmente per la fase finale ed allora potete più successivamente rimuoverli con il RPM -e tarball-nome di e Civileme Please, here at newbie, we use English. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] To list admin (Denis Havlik?)
Roman Korcek wrote: Hi Mark, I lost my old email address an thus can't unsub. (because it needs a confirmation which I can't confirm since the request is sent to my old address). The old address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Could you please unsub. me? Or if I am asking at the wrong place, could someone point me please in the right direction? there is no confirmation request needed or asked for when unsubing from the newbie or the expert list. On the webpage when I try to unsub. it says it will send a confirmation request to my email in a few moments to confirm the unsub. It makes pretty much sense, otherwise I could easily ubsub. you or whoever I choose. BTW: Did you get my email from Tue? TIA Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Just send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and spoof the header by changing your email address, then the message body should be set newbie nomail That won't require a confirmation and is the next best thing to signing off. Remember to change your email identity back afterwards. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fluxbox and Mandrake 8.1
I have a small problem that hopefully will have a small answer... I'm currently using fluxbox and i'd like to be able to use all those nifty dockable apps that go into the slit and as far as i can tell, the way to do that is to add a line into my .xinitrc file, but unfortunately mandrake sets up it's window managers using a file in /etc/X11/wmsession.d (this is my understanding of it anyway) Now when i add my app of choice to the end of the fluxbox file (with the -w option by the way) nothing happens when i restart (the computer, X, and fluxbox). So my problem, as you may have guessed, is how to get those apps to start up automatically without using a .xinitrc! (they do work, BTW. I know this because i started them from the command line; i'd just like to not have to start them manually) And to further complicate matters, the last time i tried to generate an .xinitrc file i ended up have to Alt-Ctrl-1 over to a different console and delete the file because it locked up X. So i'm a little hesitant to try it again. A little help? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove ?
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2002, Robin Turner wrote: On Wednesday 01 May 2002 21:45, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote: [snip] I too agree. If I buy a car and drive it till it is rust, I can remove engine transmission, seats and what ever else is salvageable and sell them individually. They were part of an integral package to begin with, but I still can sell off the pieces. Heck, I could sell of the pieces two days after I bought it brand new, and put some other engine in it. What makes Windows so special? M$ is as arrogant as any company ever in existance. My $.02 Not quite. Back in the 18th and 19th centuries there was the East India Company, which successfully colonised most of the Indian subcontinent, and was only absorbed into the British Empire after a mutiny of its native soldiers resutled in unspeakable carnage. Presumably the moral is that Microsoft should merge with the American government to create MSUSA. Sir Robin O, that was foul! just plain below the belt. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, someone who cannot post to the list because his ISP is out picking daisies and not supplying reverse resolution sent me a missive pointing out that no one buys Windows. It is a license one buys, nothing more. A license to use software according to the terms and proscriptions of the owner, one Microsoft Corporation. In other words they can put whatever into the license agreement and if you disagree, your alternative is not to use the license. You must agree to the terms to use the license. There is no legal recourse. The only hint of a possible recourse stems from the classification of the owner as a monopoly, and that classification will vanish as soon as it loses significant market share. And if there is reason for it to lose said market share, it will not likely recover said share any time soon or likely ever, a byproduct of the chicanery used to place the corporation where it is is that many people are disgusted but shrug and use the products out of a feeling of powerlessness. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
