Re: [newbie] dual boot M8.2 and XP

[Felix Underhill]

>
>
>
>I'm still confused on the same point:
>Some people talk about copying the boot record (the first 512 bytes from the 
>linux partition) and copying it to the windows partition.  Other people seem 
>to be saying that linux will "sort out the booting" and never mention copying 
>the boot record or editing bootlaoder config files.  Which is right?
>Thanks,
>SW
>
 I've run XP Pro and Mandrake 8.2 on the same drive with no problems. I 
installed XP first by assigning it half of my drive. Then I setup 8.2 on 
the other half. When I boot up the system, the bootloader (I presume to 
be lilo, not grub) shows me several options. These include the various 
linux types and NT. I choose NT if I want XP and it loads up as usual. :)

   D

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

I've already posted an article about this at PCLinuxOnline:

  http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2886

I suggest that you make your feelings heard by posting a comment about it. If
you still want a petition, I can post an article about it.

Sridhar (AKA Yama)


On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:57:22 +0800, "frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
> 
> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
> 
> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
> 
> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
> 
> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
> is valuable indeed.
> 
> 
> rgds
> 
> frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
> 
> 
> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
> await you.
> 
> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
> 
> 
> 
> >On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
> > > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >
> > > > My involvement with the fixing process is
> > > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > > more testing tools
> > > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> > > >
> > > > Civileme

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Re: [newbie] dual boot M8.2 and XP

[Scott]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 July 2002 02:00 am, Kenneth wrote:
> > I recommend not dual booting XP and Mandrake.. You have to remember
> > Microsoft is not too friendly.. I had a hard enough time with Windows
> > ME and Mandrake 8.2
>
> In the case of Mandrake 8.1, I am dual booting with XP with no problems
> at all. Setting it up was as easy as can be when installing Mandrake. I
> have two separate drives, one for Mandrake and one for XP.
>
> 
> Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.1
> KDE 2.2.1KMail 1.3.1
>
> Bryan S. Tyson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I'm still confused on the same point:
Some people talk about copying the boot record (the first 512 bytes from the 
linux partition) and copying it to the windows partition.  Other people seem 
to be saying that linux will "sort out the booting" and never mention copying 
the boot record or editing bootlaoder config files.  Which is right?
Thanks,
SW



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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Marc]

 If you read the newsletter and more of the info at mandrake.com you will find 
that mandrake is claiming inproved financial status from a increase in sales and a 
cut in operating expenses part of witch involves cutting the number of employes.
  A company can not operate at a loss even a small one for ever and if you look at 
all the details you will find that they have been operating at a loss for quite some 
time. Mandrake does project operating at no loss or a small profit by Jan 1
   The current trend of increased sales and cut operating expenses seem to confirm 
that. Lets face it operating at a loss for a extended  period of time once the money 
runs out it is all over and the doors close for ever. Mandrake is takeing what ever 
steps it takes to stop that from happening. Maybe after sales increase enough they 
will be able to bring GREAT folks like civilme back into the workforce.
Meanwhile it is a shame tthat people like civilme get caught in the middle.
  If everything that I have read at mandrake.com is true I doubt that management is 
to happy about these layoffs.
   I think that in a year or 2 Mandrake will be turned around and hireing on as 
many people as it takes to make the best possible linux distro, not that they have 
not been doing a great job so far but they seem to have streached their cash 
reserves  to far.
   I hope I am correct in all this but only time will tell.
   Meanwhill I wish all the best to both civilme and Mandrake

Marc

7/30/02 11:03:03 AM, "Vincent A. Primavera" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
>   What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
>such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
>comes down to it they are laying off key players.  What can you really
>believe?
>--
>   Thank you,
>
>   Vincent A. Primavera.
>
>On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:57, frankie wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>> 
>> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
>> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>> 
>> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
>> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
>> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
>> 
>> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
>> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
>> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>> 
>> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
>> is valuable indeed.
>> 
>> 
>> rgds
>> 
>> frank
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>> 
>> 
>> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
>> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
>> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
>> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
>> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
>> await you.
>> 
>> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>> > > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > > > My involvement with the fixing process is
>> > > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
>> > > > more testing tools
>> > > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
>> > > >
>> > > > Civileme
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [newbie] isa pnp modem ...

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 03:27 pm, you wrote:
> hello,
>
> my head is truly spinning after spending a couple of days reading the modem
> howto, setserial, isapnp etc. and i seem no closer to an answer! this is a
> hardware modem and has worked on linux redhat and slackware. there was a
> reference to some 'peer' thing in mandrake user (what is it, where can i
> find it?)
>
> bios says irq 3. setting on windows is irq 3, com 2, 02f8-02ff (same thing
> when pnp o/s is changed to no). mandrake has detected a modem, usr 56k
> voice ( it is all that and internal and isa pnp). when i went into the
> hardware section of control panel there was no kernel module. it configure
> it on irq 5, io 0210. i tested it and modprobe couldn't find the module.
>
> i'd appreciate any help, i spent 3 months trying to get this modem working
> before i had adsl, and unfortunately i can't reach the guy who got it
> working before. thanks.

 This is probably something you already checked but by chance is there a 
jumper setting on the modem that is set for irq 5 while the bios setting is 3?
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 07:38 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:26:35 -0500
>
> Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AMC makes some good ups
>
> Don't you mean APC
>
>
> Charles
>
> --
> "Why must you tell me all your secrets when it's hard enough to love
> you knowing nothing?"
>   -- Lloyd Cole and the Commotions
> --
> Charles A Edwards
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
Ha! yeah you are right.  APC is it,  I just took 5 grandkids to see the 
Spiderman movie and it was showing at the AMC theater.  Old, one track mind. 
he.  (face being tinged with red)  : )
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Warren Post]

El mar, 30-07-2002 a las 14:55, John Richard Smith escribió:

> Thanks for that reply
> I am still not familiar with the term --
> 
> combo UPS/line conditioner

It's not a technical term; I referred to the fact that the UPS I have is
designed to also serve as a line conditioner. It's a model Tripp Lite
makes specifically for poor power environments where otherwise one would
need both a line conditioner and a UPS.

> Here in the uk we have stable good quality electricity supplies.Our 
> national grid never blips at all. But no national grid can cope with 
> massive thunder storms.

In that case you might well not need to do anything more than switch to
XFS and make sure the wiring in your building is in good order. Here we
get at least one momentary (<1 sec) power failure a day, and our nominal
120 VAC never reaches even 100 volts. So what would be minimally
acceptable protection here would be massive overkill for you.

Glad to hear that your house wasn't one of the ones hit.

Warren




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Re: [newbie] Need Help configuring Mozilla/*.pdf

[Erylon Hines]

Since no one could answer this question, I spent several hours looking for 
the solution.  My problem stems from the plugger.so plug-in having already 
registered the pdf mime type to xpdf.

Here is what I found about how to fix it and make Adobe Acrobat the default 
app for opening *.pdf files with Mozilla.

Install Acrobat and be sure a copy of acroread is in your path.  Link 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and nppdf.so (the acrobat plug-in).  

cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins &&
ln -s /usr/local/Acrobat4/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so

Move the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/plugger.so to a directory not in your path 
(/home/public is a good one for this).  Open Mozilla and the About:plugins 
will no longer show any mime types handled by plugger.  Close Mozilla.

Edit the /etc/pluggerrc file and comment out any line referring to the pdf 
mime type:

#application/pdf:pdf:PDF file
#application/x-pdf:pdf:PDF file
#text/x-pdf:pdf:PDF file
#repeat swallow(documentShell) fill: acroread -geometry +9000+9000 -xrm 
"userFrontEndProgram: FALSE' "$file"
# repeat swallow(xpdf) fill:xpdf -g +9000+9000 -err "$file"

Save your edited file.

Move the plugger.so back to the /usr/lib/mozilla plugins directory.

That works!  Adobe Acrobat now opens *.pdf files in Mozilla.  And I hope  
this helps someone else and that my taking up the bandwidth hasn't been a 
solution in search of a problem.

e.

> I have a site that I must get *.pdf forms from, but xpdf persists in
> cutting off one side so that I cannot print the form correctly.  I
> discovered that the Linux version of Acrobat does not do this, but Mozilla
> persists in opening all *.pdf files with xpdf, even though I have set
> acroread to open that file extension.  Can someone tell me what I need to
> do to change the helper application to Acrobat from xpdf?  Or, as an
> alternative, what do I need to do to correctly show and print forms with
> xpdf?
>
> I didn't have any trouble at all getting Opera to use acroread, but I can't
> figure out how to get Mozilla to do it.
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> e.



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[newbie] devfs

[chuck]

How can I "turn off" devfs?

TIA

-Chuck






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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition - PETITION???.

[J or M Montgomery]

John Rigby wrote:

Linux is still a  ^%$#$%^&*&^^ of a product to install and setup in a 
business-workable format.
--

John, I am tired of hearing you say this. I have no idea of what 
problems you have (please don't bother telling me).

I have a dual boot machine with Mandrake 8.2 and (sort of) Win 98.
Mandrake installed without a wrinkle and has remained stable. Win 98 was 
a struggle to get video and modem (external) to work. Furthermore when 
that decorated soldier - Gen Fault - salutes the reboot loses the video 
driver and it is another fight to get it setup properly.

When I get a proper scanner, I will rip out Win 98 and the CD will be 
converted to a dartboard with a house rule that any dart going in the 
center hole and causing no damage will lose the thrower 50 points.

My wife who hates computers uses Mandrake. My grand-daughter loves it 
and my 92 year old step-mother in law uses linux. In terms of ease of 
setup, facility in use and overall design, Mandrake knocks the socks off 
MS. I haven't even mentioned price either.

Find out what your problem is and get it fixed but please spae us from 
these generalized bitch sessions.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Charles A Edwards]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:26:35 -0500
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AMC makes some good ups 

Don't you mean APC


Charles

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--



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Re: [newbie] OT (maybe) - Matter of Opinion

[Belgarius]

> Is there any point at all in keeping Linux Format disks that are over a
year
> old?  Seems to me that at the rate things change it is unlikely that they
> will ever get used.

   Here's a thought, if you want to give it that much credit.  Linux runs
fine on machines that otherwise would fail to meet hardware requirement,
which is a good thing, IMHO.  If you happen to have such an older machine
lying about, and are blessed with children, set a copy up for them to work
with.  You'd be amazed at how quickly they can learn from it, and at times,
you might learn a bit from them as well.  Just a thought...

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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 04:14 pm, you wrote:
> > Thanks for that reply
> > I am still not familiar with the term --
> >
> > combo UPS/line conditioner
>
> A UPS is an uninterruptible power supply. It's basically
> a battery that lies between your computer and your power
> outlet. If the power goes out, you'll still have enough
> juice to save your work and safely power down you box.
> So it makes sure you have electricity.
>
> A line conditioner conditions the electricity, counter-acting
> electricity spikes and the like that can damage your
> computer equipment. So it makes sure that the electricity
> you do have is "clean" and safe for your sensitive equipment.
>
> Miark
To add to the above, a good ups will put out a true sine wave current. This 
is what you get over your power lines. The cheaper ups will give you a square 
wave output which generally works but tends to be hard on sensitive equipment.
Since you would only have it on for a few minutes while power down occurs it 
won't cause a problem. AMC makes some good ups that will work with the APM 
programs in Mandrake.  They are the best I have found at a price I can afford 
(so far). HTH
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[newbie] xinetd and imap questions

[Randy Kramer]

I'm slowly learning about email services, but it would help if someone
could answer / confirm the following:

I am running the MandrakeFreq version of Mandrake 7.2.

Scenario 1:

   * When I run "service inetd status" I get "inetd: unrecognized
service".

   * When I run "service xinetd status" I get "xinetd (pid 411) is
running..."

   * I can confirm that pop3 is running by telneting to port 110 and
"conversing" with it.

I assume then, that pop3 must have been started by xinetd?  (or at least
that is most likely, and that it was unlikely to have been started by
inetd)

Continuing:

   * There is no line in xinetd.conf to start pop3 like there is in
inetd.conf.  There is a file in the directory /etc/xinetd.conf named
ipop3 which I assume is somehow automatically initiated by xinetd or
some mechanism like the startup files in rc.d?

   * In that ipop3 file, there is a line "# default: on" and I'm
assuming that is what makes the service start?

   * When I try to "converse" with imap (on port 143) with lines like
"A001 user  " and quite a few variations (with and
without the A001), I get no useful response -- I get an indication that
whatever I typed is bad.  (I do get the OK imapserver ... server ready"
when I first telnet in.)  I don't know whether the imap server is
running or not -- I mean, I think it's running based on the ready, but
like I said above, it is not giving a useful response to anything I
type. 

   * When I looked at the imap file under /etc/xinetd.d, the "default
line" said off.  I changed it to on, saved the file, and then did a
"server xinetd restart".  I still get the same behavior on telneting in
to port 143.

   * I then did a "ps -Al | grep map" (as root) and found the imapd
daemon.  (BTW -- what is the accepted pronunciation of daemon?)  I did
not find anything when I did "ps -Al | grep pop".

Any hints on what I'm doing wrong, overlooking, should try next, etc.?

Off Topic Question: I'm using MandrakeFreq 7.2 intentionally because
this is an older box without much memory (133 MHz, 64 MB).  When I
installed it, I installed it from the bootable MandrakeFreq 7.2 CD on a
wiped hard drive.  Is that the recommended installation procedure for a
MandrakeFreq update, or should I have installed it "over" a Mandrake 7.2
installation.  If so, give me some hints on how to do that.  (I suspect
I should have installed it over the Mandrake 7.2 installation, because
some things that, IIRC, were present in 7.2 are not present now.  (Can't
immediately think of an example, though.)

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] OT (maybe) - Matter of Opinion

[Warren Post]

Give 'em away. A lot of non profit groups have older machines that can't
run Microsoft's latest but could run an older Mandrake release just
fine. Help your community and promote Linux at the same time.

I received my first set of disks from a kind member of this list who
sent them to me instead of throwing them away when she upgraded to a
more recent release.

Warren

El lun, 29-07-2002 a las 13:54, Anne Wilson escribió:
> Is there any point at all in keeping Linux Format disks that are over a year 
> old?  Seems to me that at the rate things change it is unlikely that they 
> will ever get used.




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Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 3:07 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 5:13 am, civileme wrote:
> > Well, the problem is bugs in the current revision and it is up to
> > Mandrakesoft to fix them.  My involvement with the fixing process is
> > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few more testing tools
> > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> >
> > Civileme
>
> It is very sad to hear it! We do hope you continue to contribute to the
> list.

Ditto. It is clear a man of your talent will have no trouble securing a 
satisfying career.

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[newbie] How to use menuanalyze

[civileme]

OK for best results with menuanalyze

Start a desktop with a full menu set like IceWM or (shudder) KDE or 
GNOME  (IceWM recommended for this)

ctrl-alt-f2
login as a user, any user
su to root

startup menuanalyze or whatever name you gave it

When it asks about the menu checking:

ctrl-alt-f7

logout
login same WM (That is why IceWm is recommended--lower startup time)

check menus

ctrl-alt-f2

decide to keep or remove the menu item under study from the effect on 
the menus

go on to next item

repeat until your menus are visible again--if your menus remain broken, 
there may be other causes--check the /etc/menu* directories and if 
necessary delete /etc/menu (leave /etc/menu-methods alone) and let it 
rebuild itself.

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition - PETITION???.

[Marc]

7/30/02 5:55:06 PM, John Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At 01:56 AM 31/07/02, you did spake with authority thus (but kindly):
>
>COMMENT #1
>Hello,
>What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
>such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
>comes down to it they are laying off key players. What can you really
>believe?
>-- 
>Thank you,
>Vincent A. Primavera.
>
> Vincent, this is the way of THAT world.
>After more years than I care to recall as an international corporate 
>"fixer",  the lie has always been the first "solution".  Just look at the 
>combination of the last year:
>Dot.bombs,
>Enron,
>Xerox (!) etc. etc.
>Want to see something really amazing about "loyalty" ?
>Go look up the saga - still going - of Cyberwings.com and the strange 
>behaviour of its owner.
>
>COMMENT 2 FAR MORE POSITIVE!
>
>
>>Take a look at what we have here, someone who has a lot of skills, 
>> deals well
>>with people and seems to have  lot of drive!!  This is someone that should 
>>have his
>>own tech support business. I dont think that I have ever met anyone who was
>>REALLY happy with his or her job working for someone else for more than a 
few
>>years. Self employment has been a great way for me and a number of folks I 
>>know
>>to get out of this rut.
>>I would think that if someone like civilme were to open some sort of 
>> Linux tech
>>support business even if only starting by selling his services on ebay in 
>>a few
>>months or a year he could really do very well for himself and never have 
>>to worry
>>about a layoff again.
>>And what a asset to linux!!
>>
>> Marc
>
>Good Thinking Marc, but in fact most people do not want to run their own 
>business. Otherwise "Big Business" couldn't exist.
>It is nowhere near as hard as it looks to start a business if you have a 
>*marketable* skill.
>Civileme,  go for it!
>I am a an ex-professional in this area and I have watched you here for a 
>lng time. A good LOYAL and dedicated employee - AND - well 
>liked.  KEYPOINT:  Well -liked.
>An axiom in IT is that to find a Geek who can even be invitable to a party 
>is a rare thing, much less get near the paying customers! :-)
>There is a VAST difference between geeking and client support - and usually 
>the twain rarely meet.
>A fact of life in the industry.
>One small suggestion:
>Do not get involved in support like this area!
>It is (a) too time-consuming
>(b) won't feed your starving wives and kid - EVER.
>As an example I give you:Mandrake. nearly gone 
>- as -I predicted (sadly)
>( Do it as a hobby by all means or as a contribution to Linux comm)
>BUT
>Get into the REAL world REAL User Market.  Businesspeople are used to being 
>ripped off by Microsoft.
>Set up as a Small Business Network Consultant.
>Specialise in <10 bums on seats.
>Offer handholding for a year cheaply ( $10 per support call by email/phone) 
>There is a logic in this
>Go get a quote for a 2, 5, 10 seat Microsoft SBO Network. Price to it.
>NEVER under-quote!
>OVER-Service!
>Offer complete packages and "serious upgrades".
>That means:
>supply equipment, install it,
>Internet them
>Setup a Website for them
>Make it ACTUALLY work. GUARANTEE your work.  Be 
UNDERSTANDING.
>Just remember, the real world could not care less about 
>Linux/Microsoft/Fruit
>We only want something that works
>  So long as *you* SET EVERYTHING UP FOR THEM
>and *you* NEVER MENTION THE COMMAND LINE
>you will make more money than you ever dreamed.
>
>The only catch with this scenario for anyone else that gets excited, too:
>
>With the exception of Lindows - frightening M$ so much that they are 
>seriously trying to stop them now.
>Linux is still a  ^%$#$%^&*&^^ of a product to install and setup in a 
>business-workable format.
>DON'T even THINK about going into the business unless you know as much as 
>Civileme!!
>AND can be polite under stress - and never, ever smartass a User because of 
>your own ego.
>
>There! That knocks out 98.87% of all the people who play around with 
>Linux.  :-)
>
>Good luck, Civileme, this should be the best thing that ever happened to you.
>If I can help you in any way, contact me - this is *my* area of knowhow.
>
>John Rigby
>
>
>
>  Sorry John but you have made 2 big mistakes here. First a lot more people than 
you think would like to operate their own business however only a few have the 
courage talent and drive. Most have been beaten down to much by the school 
system and or past jobs in corperate America.
Second is the FIRST rule of starting a small business,  Find something that you 
like to do and then find someone to pay you for it.  If you dont enjoy what you are 
doing you are missing a lot of the value of being self employed.
  A person may not make as much money this way but can still make a tidy sum.
 This is *my* area of knowhow

   As far as your other points about Mandrake and Linux in gener

Re: [newbie] Can't block dos attack

[Ibly Piblo]

Thank you very much for writing.

Yes, I have that script, and for the
most part, it does work, but HOW CAN SOMEONE
Break Through?

It does NOT MAKE SENSE :((

It is just Not Possible.

I don't understand how, that when you
have this script to block an ip, HOW
can it NOT be blocked

Is my /var/tmp/blocked list too long?

Do I need to manually enter it into
the list again at the bottom to remind it?

I think I will just do that for now,
I will type it in 3 more times to make sure
it did not miss it.

Again thank you for writing back.

Ibly.


>Try the script below, which should take care of the
>problem.  Of course,
>this isn't a dos attack, it's a virus attack (one of
>the viruses going
>around attempting to infect an iis server).

>Which kernel are you using?  If it's 2.4.x, iptables
is >the way to block
>things out.  (in that case let me know, and I'll
adapt >this to deal with
>iptables).

>Michael



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Re: [newbie] OT (maybe) - Matter of Opinion

[et]

On Monday 29 July 2002 03:54 pm, you wrote:
> Is there any point at all in keeping Linux Format disks that are over a
> year old?  Seems to me that at the rate things change it is unlikely that
> they will ever get used.
>
> Anne
I suggest the microwave for them,,, no I taake that back

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Dialog with imap via telnet? (was Re: [newbie] xinetd and imap questions)

[Randy Kramer]

Thanks very much!  I spent some time viewing /var/log/syslog, and that
was helpful.

I can't find anything else that is starting imapd (in rc.d, or
elsewhere), yet because of the ready line when I telnet to port 143, I
believe it is starting.

In /var/log/syslog I found that my problem is usually "Missing command
before authentication host[192.168.0.8]".  I tried looking for this on
Google, and the indication is that I've got a bad client or am being
attacked.  Since I'm on a LAN behind a NAT, I don't think I'm being
attacked (I might be, but I doubt it -- GRC or whoever always says all
my ports are "stealthed").

So, I suspect that I don't know how to initiate a dialog with imap via
telnet -- I suspect that this command: "A001 user 
", which I got from Linux Red Hat 6 Unleashed, is not valid.

Can somebody tell me how to initiate a dialog with imap via telnet?

Randy Kramer

Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> this seems to be the problem to me. I don't have experience with imap,
> but had a similar problem with proftp. proftp can run as standalone _or_
> as (x)inetd service, but not both! If you start proftpd from the command
> line and you also have disable=no in the corresponding xinet.d/
> configuration file, it will not work. So be sure that you are not
> starting imap from the rc.d, if you enable it in xinet.d
> 
> good luck.
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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Bill Davidson]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:57:22 +0800
"frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
> 
> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any
> other Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
> 
> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these
> mailing lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good
> stuff I mean.)
> 
> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to
> mandrake.. I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want
> to since he probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just
> a Suit.)
> 
> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that
> Civilme is valuable indeed.

I don't see how a petition would help. I just don't think they are
effective (online petitions that is). It seems to me that many
individual, well thought out emails to the CEO, or to someone else at
Mandrake, detailing Civileme's importance to Mandrake, and more
importantly, Mandrake's customers, would carry more weight than a
petition.

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition - PETITION???.

[John Rigby]

At 01:56 AM 31/07/02, you did spake with authority thus (but kindly):

COMMENT #1
Hello,
What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
comes down to it they are laying off key players. What can you really
believe?
-- 
Thank you,
Vincent A. Primavera.

 Vincent, this is the way of THAT world.
After more years than I care to recall as an international corporate 
"fixer",  the lie has always been the first "solution".  Just look at the 
combination of the last year:
Dot.bombs,
Enron,
Xerox (!) etc. etc.
Want to see something really amazing about "loyalty" ?
Go look up the saga - still going - of Cyberwings.com and the strange 
behaviour of its owner.

COMMENT 2 FAR MORE POSITIVE!


>Take a look at what we have here, someone who has a lot of skills, 
> deals well
>with people and seems to have  lot of drive!!  This is someone that should 
>have his
>own tech support business. I dont think that I have ever met anyone who was
>REALLY happy with his or her job working for someone else for more than a few
>years. Self employment has been a great way for me and a number of folks I 
>know
>to get out of this rut.
>I would think that if someone like civilme were to open some sort of 
> Linux tech
>support business even if only starting by selling his services on ebay in 
>a few
>months or a year he could really do very well for himself and never have 
>to worry
>about a layoff again.
>And what a asset to linux!!
>
> Marc

Good Thinking Marc, but in fact most people do not want to run their own 
business. Otherwise "Big Business" couldn't exist.
It is nowhere near as hard as it looks to start a business if you have a 
*marketable* skill.
Civileme,  go for it!
I am a an ex-professional in this area and I have watched you here for a 
lng time. A good LOYAL and dedicated employee - AND - well 
liked.  KEYPOINT:  Well -liked.
An axiom in IT is that to find a Geek who can even be invitable to a party 
is a rare thing, much less get near the paying customers! :-)
There is a VAST difference between geeking and client support - and usually 
the twain rarely meet.
A fact of life in the industry.
One small suggestion:
Do not get involved in support like this area!
It is (a) too time-consuming
(b) won't feed your starving wives and kid - EVER.
As an example I give you:Mandrake. nearly gone 
- as -I predicted (sadly)
( Do it as a hobby by all means or as a contribution to Linux comm)
BUT
Get into the REAL world REAL User Market.  Businesspeople are used to being 
ripped off by Microsoft.
Set up as a Small Business Network Consultant.
Specialise in <10 bums on seats.
Offer handholding for a year cheaply ( $10 per support call by email/phone) 
There is a logic in this
Go get a quote for a 2, 5, 10 seat Microsoft SBO Network. Price to it.
NEVER under-quote!
OVER-Service!
Offer complete packages and "serious upgrades".
That means:
supply equipment, install it,
Internet them
Setup a Website for them
Make it ACTUALLY work. GUARANTEE your work.  Be UNDERSTANDING.
Just remember, the real world could not care less about 
Linux/Microsoft/Fruit
We only want something that works
  So long as *you* SET EVERYTHING UP FOR THEM
and *you* NEVER MENTION THE COMMAND LINE
you will make more money than you ever dreamed.

The only catch with this scenario for anyone else that gets excited, too:

With the exception of Lindows - frightening M$ so much that they are 
seriously trying to stop them now.
Linux is still a  ^%$#$%^&*&^^ of a product to install and setup in a 
business-workable format.
DON'T even THINK about going into the business unless you know as much as 
Civileme!!
AND can be polite under stress - and never, ever smartass a User because of 
your own ego.

There! That knocks out 98.87% of all the people who play around with 
Linux.  :-)

Good luck, Civileme, this should be the best thing that ever happened to you.
If I can help you in any way, contact me - this is *my* area of knowhow.

John Rigby





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Re: [newbie] Can't block dos attack

[Ibly Piblo]

Many thanks for the info

Hey, where did it talk about remote shutdown?

I saw no such reference.

But I do like the auto-responder
and e mailing alerter.

I'm trying to figure out how to make it
work.

I will e mail again when I get some results,
I'm still being hit and I don't know how to
stop them.


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RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[frankie]

I was not insinuating that anyone at mandrake was in any way sinister or
"uncaring"

Only that if they had to lay people off, laying off the ones that are in
touch and have established good working relationships with the companies
biggest clients is a bad idea...

Since CEO's and directors are suits, they don't usually know anything about
the product side of things..

so they probably made the decision based on what they consider to be the
right choise.. that may not be the best thing for Mandrake,, (if you were a
CEO and you had a choise between another programmer, and an office
assistant.. and you were not a linux nutter like us, you'd probably chose to
keep the assistant, since a CEO would probably think that they have other
programmers that can pick up the slack.)

If Civilme got annoyed and lost his faith in Mandrake he could protentially
cost mandrake alot of money by telling us about it all, and potentially
recommending another distro... (not that civilme would, I am just proposing
speculation.)

Its a known fact that when a spokesperson, (or salesperson, or just someone
well known and associated with a product.) leaves a company, many people
will follow as they trust the man more then the company.. I have been in
this situation myself, I used to work for a large international PC component
manufacturer. (Ocean, the main brand they marketed was Octek.)
When I left, a good many of my clients asked me to start a wholesale
business and stated they would follow me..

All I am saying is that you don't remove the most respected public face of
Mandrake (with the users.. or customers) if you want to improve sales.

Vincent Dannen and Civilme are the only two mandrake employees that go out
of their way to help users on the newbie, expert and sometimes the cooker
list.. there is nothing that has improved mandrakes public opinion more then
those two I believe.. and mandrake just layed one of them off.. (and who is
to say that Vincent hasn't been given his walking papers as well..)

That said, Civilme has said that there is no need to make a fuss about it,
so I suggest we don't.


rgds

Frank



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.


"Vincent A. Primavera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:

> Hello,
>   What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
> such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
> comes down to it they are laying off key players.  What can you really
> believe?

Forgive my optimism, but unless Civileme himself indicates
otherwise, I have to believe that this was a necessary move
for Mandrake. Yes, it  saddens us, but we don't know
anything about what went into the decision, and I see no
reason to assume the worst (viz. that Mandrake is a big,
nasty, uncaring corporation).

Quite the contrary, in fact. Remember, even though MDK is
doing well, they are still _not_ profitable. If we want to
see Linux Mandrake survive, they must become profitable,
which takes some unfortunate decisions. I'm sad that
Civileme is being laid off, but if this helps Mandrakesoft
survive and thrive, then I'm pleased.

And lest anybody think otherwise, I _do_ think Civileme is
The Man. So Civileme, if something is rotten in Denmark...
er, Paris, then let us know cuz we've got your back; we'll
do anything we can to keep you on. Otherwise I must be
thankful that the community still has you, that MDK's future
is bright, and that you are destined to excel in whatever
you take on from here.

Miark





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Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0

[Roger Sherman]

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Michael Scottaline wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:43:50 -0800
> civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively:
> 
> 
> >Well, the problem is bugs in the current revision and it is up to 
> >Mandrakesoft to fix them.  My involvement with the fixing process is 
> >becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few more testing tools 
> >before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> =
> WHAT  Is this for certain, Civileme???
> My deep regrets if it is for certain.  
> 
> Any chance of a person of your abilities being picked up by another
> distro?  You are w/o a doubt one of the great assets of this list, and
> thus, Mandrake.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Best, 
> Mike
> 

Maybe we should start a write in campaign...


> 


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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Miark]

> Thanks for that reply
> I am still not familiar with the term --
> 
> combo UPS/line conditioner

A UPS is an uninterruptible power supply. It's basically
a battery that lies between your computer and your power
outlet. If the power goes out, you'll still have enough
juice to save your work and safely power down you box.
So it makes sure you have electricity.

A line conditioner conditions the electricity, counter-acting
electricity spikes and the like that can damage your 
computer equipment. So it makes sure that the electricity
you do have is "clean" and safe for your sensitive equipment.

Miark



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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Miark]

"Vincent A. Primavera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:

> Hello,
>   What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
> such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
> comes down to it they are laying off key players.  What can you really
> believe?

Forgive my optimism, but unless Civileme himself indicates
otherwise, I have to believe that this was a necessary move
for Mandrake. Yes, it  saddens us, but we don't know
anything about what went into the decision, and I see no
reason to assume the worst (viz. that Mandrake is a big,
nasty, uncaring corporation). 

Quite the contrary, in fact. Remember, even though MDK is
doing well, they are still _not_ profitable. If we want to
see Linux Mandrake survive, they must become profitable,
which takes some unfortunate decisions. I'm sad that
Civileme is being laid off, but if this helps Mandrakesoft
survive and thrive, then I'm pleased.

And lest anybody think otherwise, I _do_ think Civileme is
The Man. So Civileme, if something is rotten in Denmark...
er, Paris, then let us know cuz we've got your back; we'll
do anything we can to keep you on. Otherwise I must be
thankful that the community still has you, that MDK's future
is bright, and that you are destined to excel in whatever
you take on from here.

Miark



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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[John Richard Smith]

Warren Post wrote:

>Greetings from the world capital of brownouts, blackouts, spikes, and
>thunderstorms. Here's what I recommend, in order:
>
>FOR FILESYSTEM PROTECTION...
>
>1. Use a journaling file system like XFS. This, alone, would probably
>have avoided your problems.
>
>FOR HARDWARE PROTECTION...
>
>2. Make sure your power outlets are properly grounded. If you do nothing
>else, do this. Most of the following measures depend upon proper
>grounding.
>
>3. Use good quality power supplies. Most PCs today come with junk, but a
>good name brand supply (PC Power & Cooling make good units) will provide
>quite a bit of spike, brownout, and surge protection even without
>separate line conditioning equipment. 
>
>4. Decent power protection equipment will indeed cost you the proverbial
>arm and a leg. The cheap stuff is junk that is not worth buying. Before
>you buy, consider the specific power problems you face:
>
>* If power outages (even momentary ones) are common, you need a UPS. If
>they are rare, then using a journaling file system should be enough
>protection.
>
>* If lightning strikes or other massive surges are common, have a
>qualified electrician check your building's wiring with an eye to
>lightning dissipation. Consider a surge protector from a reputable
>company like Tripp Lite only if fried computers are common in your
>neighborhood after a thunderstorm.
>
>* If line interference or voltage fluctuations is causing problems, have
>an electrician check your building's wiring and major appliances. Most
>problems can be corrected without the need for line conditioners.
>
>After having said the above, what do I do? I use XFS, my outlets are
>grounded, and I have a combo UPS/line conditioner. But that's overkill
>for most localities. For the average installation, a good power supply
>connected to a well grounded outlet should do if you're running XFS.
>
>Warren
>Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras
>
>El lun, 29-07-2002 a las 14:17, John Richard Smith escribió:
>  
>
>>This may sound a simple question but what if anything can computer 
>>owners do, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg , to protect their 
>>equipement from bad weather.
>>
>>Here in Milton Keynes, England we have just had the mother and father of 
>>a thunder storm, which caused a momentary cut in power, and naturally 
>>crashed all the running computers.
>>Some rebooted OK , that is after lengthy file system checks, but one 
>>refused even after this, it got as far as "loading USB interface (USB 
>>ohci)" , and hung.
>>
>>I'm back in , but not after some nifty failsafe rebooting.
>>

Thanks for that reply
I am still not familiar with the term --

combo UPS/line conditioner

What is this precisely, I guess since we don't normally experience such 
thunderstorms very often , here in the uk, we are less familiar with 
this requirement.

Here in the uk we have stable good quality electricity supplies.Our 
national grid never blips at all. But no national grid can cope with 
massive thunder storms.

In the news today , it was reported that 15 houses were struck with 
lightening
and set on fire which required every fire appliance for 50 miles around 
to deal with them. All available emergency services were out on call 
dealing with fires and injuries.It really did catch everyone out. 
However it's not normally a regular occurance , of course we get regular 
thunder and lightening but not like last night.

John

>>John Richard Smith
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
>>





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[newbie] isa pnp modem ...

[Rainer]

hello,

my head is truly spinning after spending a couple of days reading the modem
howto, setserial, isapnp etc. and i seem no closer to an answer! this is a
hardware modem and has worked on linux redhat and slackware. there was a
reference to some 'peer' thing in mandrake user (what is it, where can i
find it?)

bios says irq 3. setting on windows is irq 3, com 2, 02f8-02ff (same thing
when pnp o/s is changed to no). mandrake has detected a modem, usr 56k voice
( it is all that and internal and isa pnp). when i went into the hardware
section of control panel there was no kernel module. it configure it on irq
5, io 0210. i tested it and modprobe couldn't find the module.

i'd appreciate any help, i spent 3 months trying to get this modem working
before i had adsl, and unfortunately i can't reach the guy who got it
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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Vincent A. Primavera]

Hello,
What I don't understand is how we receive the newsletter boasting of
such great news regarding their financial status etc. and then when it
comes down to it they are laying off key players.  What can you really
believe?
--
Thank you,

Vincent A. Primavera.

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:57, frankie wrote:
> 
> 
> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
> 
> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
> 
> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
> 
> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
> 
> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
> is valuable indeed.
> 
> 
> rgds
> 
> frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
> 
> 
> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
> await you.
> 
> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
> 
> 
> 
> >On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
> > > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >
> > > > My involvement with the fixing process is
> > > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > > more testing tools
> > > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> > > >
> > > > Civileme
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Jonathan Dlouhy]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 11:23 am, you wrote:
> I'll sign.

Ditto.

-- 
Jonathan Dlouhy
Tuesday, July 30, 2002

MS Windows -- From the people who brought you "BOB"!

Registered Linux user #264482  Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.1  



>
> -Original Message-
> From: frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Civilme petition.
>
>
>
>
> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>
> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any
> other
> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>
> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these
> mailing
> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I
> mean.)
>
> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to
> mandrake..
> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>
> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that
> Civilme
> is valuable indeed.
>
>
> rgds
>
> frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>
>
> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one
> of
> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go,
> but
> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
> await you.
>
> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>
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Re: [newbie] core.15219

[Damian G]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:12:10 +0100
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In home directory I have a number of files , all "core.15219", etc
> 
> What are these files and is it safe to delete them
> 
> John
> 

 a "core" file is a memory dump made by an application right before it
crashed. it's useful for reporting bugs, etc.. developers of certain projects
may ask you for the "core" file when you submit a bugreport.

yes, it's safe to delete them.

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Edelmiro Guerra]

Count me too
I have seen civileme has helped a lot to people in this list.

At 30/07/02, Lúcio Costa de Almeida wrote:
>Oh, no...
>
>
>Count me in, too.
>
>He helps me a lot.
>
>=
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Re: [newbie] Lost 1G of data

[John Richard Smith]

Klemm wrote:

>Hi 
>Need help again
>I have some lost files I do not find anywhere, but I know I just copied
>them there 3 days ago.
>The dir is empty.
>
>I use konqueror as my filemanager and when I have a look at the
>properties of /home
>
>the following makes me wonder:
>
>Size 738,1 M
>Free space 494,1 /2.3 Gb (78%) used
>
>I see a mismach here in numbers. if there is 738M used then I should
>have one and a half gigs free.
>
>How that can happen and how can I recover or find the files I don't have
>any more ?
>
>Klemm
>
>
>  
>
Only a suggestion.
Perhaps if you downloaded a large file it has got stashed somewhere as a 
hidden file, this happens automatically  with nt downloader until the 
download is complete when it unhides it automatically .

Anyway if you use konq, go to view and in the dropdown list there is a 
tab for view hidden files, they all begin .something.
John

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Re: [newbie] Thunderstorms/Powersurges/Powerfailures

[Warren Post]

Greetings from the world capital of brownouts, blackouts, spikes, and
thunderstorms. Here's what I recommend, in order:

FOR FILESYSTEM PROTECTION...

1. Use a journaling file system like XFS. This, alone, would probably
have avoided your problems.

FOR HARDWARE PROTECTION...

2. Make sure your power outlets are properly grounded. If you do nothing
else, do this. Most of the following measures depend upon proper
grounding.

3. Use good quality power supplies. Most PCs today come with junk, but a
good name brand supply (PC Power & Cooling make good units) will provide
quite a bit of spike, brownout, and surge protection even without
separate line conditioning equipment. 

4. Decent power protection equipment will indeed cost you the proverbial
arm and a leg. The cheap stuff is junk that is not worth buying. Before
you buy, consider the specific power problems you face:

* If power outages (even momentary ones) are common, you need a UPS. If
they are rare, then using a journaling file system should be enough
protection.

* If lightning strikes or other massive surges are common, have a
qualified electrician check your building's wiring with an eye to
lightning dissipation. Consider a surge protector from a reputable
company like Tripp Lite only if fried computers are common in your
neighborhood after a thunderstorm.

* If line interference or voltage fluctuations is causing problems, have
an electrician check your building's wiring and major appliances. Most
problems can be corrected without the need for line conditioners.

After having said the above, what do I do? I use XFS, my outlets are
grounded, and I have a combo UPS/line conditioner. But that's overkill
for most localities. For the average installation, a good power supply
connected to a well grounded outlet should do if you're running XFS.

Warren
Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras

El lun, 29-07-2002 a las 14:17, John Richard Smith escribió:
> This may sound a simple question but what if anything can computer 
> owners do, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg , to protect their 
> equipement from bad weather.
> 
> Here in Milton Keynes, England we have just had the mother and father of 
> a thunder storm, which caused a momentary cut in power, and naturally 
> crashed all the running computers.
> Some rebooted OK , that is after lengthy file system checks, but one 
> refused even after this, it got as far as "loading USB interface (USB 
> ohci)" , and hung.
> 
> I'm back in , but not after some nifty failsafe rebooting.




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[newbie] core.15219

[John Richard Smith]

In home directory I have a number of files , all "core.15219", etc

What are these files and is it safe to delete them

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Re: [newbie] xinetd and imap questions

[Raffaele Belardi]

Randy,

see below.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>* When I run "service inetd status" I get "inetd: unrecognized
> service".
> 
>* When I run "service xinetd status" I get "xinetd (pid 411) is
> running..."

inetd is superseeded by xinetd (eXtended inetd), so one excludes the 
other. everything ok here.


>* I can confirm that pop3 is running by telneting to port 110 and
> "conversing" with it.
> 
> I assume then, that pop3 must have been started by xinetd?  (or at least
> that is most likely, and that it was unlikely to have been started by
> inet)

yes to the first one...

> 
> Continuing:
> 
>* There is no line in xinetd.conf to start pop3 like there is in
> inetd.conf.  There is a file in the directory /etc/xinetd.conf named
> ipop3 which I assume is somehow automatically initiated by xinetd or
> some mechanism like the startup files in rc.d?

exactly, it reads all the config files found in /etc/xinetd.d


>* In that ipop3 file, there is a line "# default: on" and I'm
> assuming that is what makes the service start?

yes. You can see in the /var/log/syslog that when xinetd is started, it 
loads all the config files, then disables the services not requested.

>* When I looked at the imap file under /etc/xinetd.d, the "default
> line" said off.  I changed it to on, saved the file, and then did a
> "server xinetd restart".  I still get the same behavior on telneting in
> to port 143.
> 
>* I then did a "ps -Al | grep map" (as root) and found the imapd
> daemon.  (BTW -- what is the accepted pronunciation of daemon?)  I did
> not find anything when I did "ps -Al | grep pop".

this seems to be the problem to me. I don't have experience with imap, 
but had a similar problem with proftp. proftp can run as standalone _or_ 
as (x)inetd service, but not both! If you start proftpd from the command 
line and you also have disable=no in the corresponding xinet.d/ 
configuration file, it will not work. So be sure that you are not 
starting imap from the rc.d, if you enable it in xinet.d

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[newbie] Re: Lost 1G of data

[Mad Scientist]

Klemm writes:
> I have some lost files I do not find anywhere, but I know I just copied
> them there 3 days ago.
> The dir is empty. 
> 
> I use konqueror as my filemanager and when I have a look at the
> properties of /home 
> 
> the following makes me wonder: 
> 
> Size 738,1 M
> Free space 494,1 /2.3 Gb (78%) used 
> 
> I see a mismach here in numbers. if there is 738M used then I should
> have one and a half gigs free. 
> 
> How that can happen and how can I recover or find the files I don't have
> any more ?

I don't know how konqueror does file system free space checks, but I would 
verify with the standard command line tools. Try 'du --max-depth 1 -h' at a 
prompt when your current directory is /home to see the actual usage in that 
directory. If /home is a mount point, then 'df -h' will show you the actual 
size and available space for that partition. 

If you know the name of the lost file, you can search the entire filesystem 
for it - maybe it got moved to another directory/mount point?. To do this, 
try 'find / -name "yourfilename"', or if you have slocate installed, then 
just 'locate filename' will do it more quickly. 

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Re: [newbie] Menus damaged when KDE removed

[Miark]

> Well the real lesson there is don't use Red Carpet unliess you really 
> like to do everything with rpm --nodeps.  The price you pay for such 
> smoothness in the update is excessive.

No kidding--sounds like a horrible mess waiting to happen.

 
> Right now what I see is that the easy way to analyze this is likely 
> going to be using a script
> 
> The following is a very simple-minded one which should do some magic
< Snip >
> Civileme

This says I have 2800+ items. Do I have to sit and press k  for
every one? 

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Re: [newbie] Lost 1G of data

[Damian G]

> Hi 
> Need help again
> I have some lost files I do not find anywhere, but I know I just copied
> them there 3 days ago.
> The dir is empty.
> 
> I use konqueror as my filemanager and when I have a look at the
> properties of /home
> 
> the following makes me wonder:
> 
> Size 738,1 M
> Free space 494,1 /2.3 Gb (78%) used
> 
> I see a mismach here in numbers. if there is 738M used then I should
> have one and a half gigs free.
> 
> How that can happen and how can I recover or find the files I don't have
> any more ?
> 
> Klemm

is your filesystem ext3 ? 

try listing that directory with the missing files from whithin a console.
if you can see them in the console, use midnight commander ( just type " mc " )
to copy them to some other location.

don't ask me why, but i have experienced some weird stuff with ext3, for example
some apps ( konq, xmms ) couldn't see my mp3 backup, and i had to copy it to 
another partition in order to use it...

HTH

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[newbie] Starting a program on a different virtual desktop

[Jordan Elver]

Hi,
Is it possible to start a program from the command line and get it to open on 
a different virtual desktop to the one I am currently using?

Like:

/path/to/program :2

To start it on desktop 2?

Thanks for any help,
Jord
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[newbie] bugzilla install with linux 8.2

[Schwenk, Jeanie]

Anybody done a bugzilla install with 8.2?  Apache's stuff is set up
differently on linux than on every other OS I'm familiar with so I think
this is where my problem lies.  

I can get index.html to view but that's it, for some reason all other *.html
and *.cgi don't work.  The error is "the file [<*.html>|<*.cgi>] cannot
be found.  Please check the location and try again"

I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Jeanie




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[newbie] Lost 1G of data

[Klemm]

Hi 
Need help again
I have some lost files I do not find anywhere, but I know I just copied
them there 3 days ago.
The dir is empty.

I use konqueror as my filemanager and when I have a look at the
properties of /home

the following makes me wonder:

Size 738,1 M
Free space 494,1 /2.3 Gb (78%) used

I see a mismach here in numbers. if there is 738M used then I should
have one and a half gigs free.

How that can happen and how can I recover or find the files I don't have
any more ?

Klemm







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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Dimitris Ioannou]

&Sgr;&tgr;&igr;&sfgr; &Tgr;&rgr;&igr; 30 &Igr;&ogr;&ugr;&lgr; 2002 16:38, &ogr;/&eegr;  &eacgr;&ggr;&rgr;&agr;&psgr;&egr;:
>Count me in, too.
In it also and wishing you the best civileme!



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RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Title: RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.





OK, but at least you know that you are appreciated and nobody takes your help and advice for granted. Dennis M.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.



frankie wrote:


>
>anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>
>Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
>Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>
>Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
>reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
>lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
>
>He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
>I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
>probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>
>Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
>is valuable indeed.
>
>
>rgds
>
>frank
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>
>
>you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
>with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
>the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
>hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
>them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
>await you.
>
>again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>
>
>
>>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>>
>>>--- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
My involvement with the fixing process is
becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
more testing tools
before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).

Civileme

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Don't do that.


That post to the list was inadvertant.  I meant it as a private reply on 9.0


I was on this list and on the expert list with more than 1000 posts 
before I was ever a mandrakesoft employee, and I have no plans to leave 
or diminish my activities.


Civileme

Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[civileme]

frankie wrote:

>
>anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>
>Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
>Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>
>Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
>reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
>lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
>
>He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
>I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
>probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>
>Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
>is valuable indeed.
>
>
>rgds
>
>frank
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>
>
>you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
>with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
>the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
>hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
>them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
>await you.
>
>again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>
>
>
>>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>>
>>>--- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
My involvement with the fixing process is
becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
more testing tools
before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).

Civileme

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
>
Don't do that.

That post to the list was inadvertant.  I meant it as a private reply on 9.0

I was on this list and on the expert list with more than 1000 posts 
before I was ever a mandrakesoft employee, and I have no plans to leave 
or diminish my activities.

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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Lúcio Costa de Almeida]

Oh, no...


Count me in, too.

He helps me a lot.

=
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Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0

[Peter Watson]

On Tuesday 30 July 2002 17:27 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 3:07 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 5:13 am, civileme wrote:
> > > Well, the problem is bugs in the current revision and it is up
> > > to Mandrakesoft to fix them.  My involvement with the fixing
> > > process is becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > more testing tools before my lay-off is effective.  (two days
> > > hence).
> > >
> > > Civileme
> >
> > It is very sad to hear it! We do hope you continue to contribute
> > to the list.
>
> Ditto. It is clear a man of your talent will have no trouble
> securing a satisfying career.
>
> derek

I'm so dismayed that Civileme is going that I emailed the CEO,
Jacques Le Marois, to tell him what a loss I think he will be.


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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[shane]

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me too

there isn't even a petition and it is already filling up.  how about some 
details, what is happening?

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Re: [newbie] Another winmodem question

[Derek Jennings]

Are you accessing the correct port

Try this in a terminal window

echo ath1 > /dev/modem
This should make the modem go off hook and you will hear a 'click'
(ath0  will go back on hook again)

If it does not work try /dev/ttyS0  for serial port 0 or /dev/ttyS1 for serial 
port 1 etc

Once you establish the correct modem port configure kppp accordingly.


Note : there is a support Notice on the USR site saying this modem always 
installs as COM5 in Windows. It also mentions that it works under DOS. If so 
it is a real modem and WILL work under Linux.
http://www.usr.com/support/docs-template.asp?prod=s-modem

Of course it is possible you have an IRQ conflict. You can check this by 
looking at the IRQ allocation in KDE control Centre>Information


derek



On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 2:33 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Mark Hildabrand wrote:
> > After loading Mandrake 8.2 for the third time, my USR/3Com 56K
> > FaxModem, Model 5610 was able to dial the internet.  Once.  So I
> > believe it's configured properly.  But since then, when I try to dial
> > out, KPPP hangs at initialization, displaying "Expecting OK".
> > I'd give up on it and get another modem, but it worked once and the
> > gromit winmodem website lists the model as "OK".  So I think I'm
> > missing something.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > _
> > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
>
> I'm no expert here but it sounds as though your modem is working just
> fine , does it dialup, do you get the usual wining sound of internet
> seek, if so I guess your modem is working. I'm guessing but seems to me
> your kppp settings need looking at. Maybe something is altering the
> initial settings to something kppp cannot connect to your ISP with
> properly. Can you look at these settings and refer to your windblows
> internet settings for comparisons.
>
> To look at your kppp settings click on kppp or sometimes it's just
> internet , then setup and there are some configure windows , you must go
> through them all and get your setting right.
>
> If you don't get the usual internet winings , then your modem is
> notworking properly, and I cannot help you. Try to find someone who has
> experience with this modem , and your driver.
>
> At the end of the day if all else fails , buy yourself a hardware
> controlled Rockwell chipset modem, they don't cost that much these days
> and by the heck your'll never regret it , they work everytime in
> whatever os, all you have to do is fit them(I prefer externals) and boot
> up they are instantly detected and work from there on, you only need to
> configure your internet connection from there on.
>
> John




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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Eric McClure]

I'll sign it also.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 08:29 AM, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:

> Me Too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.
>
>
> I'll sign.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Civilme petition.
>
>
>
>
> anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>
> Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any
> other
> Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>
> Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
> reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these
> mailing
> lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I
> mean.)
>
> He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to
> mandrake..
> I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
> probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>
> Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that
> Civilme
> is valuable indeed.
>
>
> rgds
>
> frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>
>
> you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
> with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one
> of
> the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go,
> but
> hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
> them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
> await you.
>
> again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>
>
>
>> On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>>> --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>
 My involvement with the fixing process is
 becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
 more testing tools
 before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).

 Civileme
>
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Re: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Marc]

7/30/02 9:57:22 AM, "frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition
>
>Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
>Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..
>
>Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
>reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
>lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)
>
>He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
>I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
>probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)
>
>Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
>is valuable indeed.
>
>
>rgds
>
>frank
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???
>
>
>you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
>with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
>the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
>hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
>them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
>await you.
>
>again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.
>
>
>
>>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
>> > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > 
>> >
>> > > My involvement with the fixing process is
>> > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
>> > > more testing tools
>> > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
>> > >
>> > > Civileme
>
>
>
   Take a look at what we have here, someone who has a lot of skills, deals well 
with people and seems to have  lot of drive!!  This is someone that should have his 
own tech support business. I dont think that I have ever met anyone who was 
REALLY happy with his or her job working for someone else for more than a few 
years. Self employment has been a great way for me and a number of folks I know 
to get out of this rut.
   I would think that if someone like civilme were to open some sort of Linux tech 
support business even if only starting by selling his services on ebay in a few 
months or a year he could really do very well for himself and never have to worry 
about a layoff again.
   And what a asset to linux!!
  Even if people running linux are famous for reading the fine manual and working 
out problems for themselves some need a answer quick or just do not have the 
time to find the answer on their own. This could be the perfect time to start such a 
venture now that Walmart is selling computers with Mandrake Linux allready 
installed and the general public may start to use mandrake more. Or for that matter 
look at how many Mandrake linux items are sold on ebay every day. I bet a good 
percentage of these people have some amount of trouble getting things running right 
and if they saw tech support services being auctioned off at ebay would jump at it.
Just my 2 cents worth and maybe some food for thought

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Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0

[L.V.Gandhi]

On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 5:13 am, civileme wrote:

> Well, the problem is bugs in the current revision and it is up to
> Mandrakesoft to fix them.  My involvement with the fixing process is
> becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few more testing tools
> before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
>
> Civileme

It is very sad to hear it! We do hope you continue to contribute to the list.
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RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Myers, Dennis R NWO]

Me Too.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.


I'll sign.

-Original Message-
From: frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Civilme petition.




anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition

Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any
other
Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..

Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these
mailing
lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I
mean.)

He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to
mandrake..
I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)

Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that
Civilme
is valuable indeed.


rgds

frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???


you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one
of
the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go,
but
hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
await you.

again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.



>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
> > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >
> > > My involvement with the fixing process is
> > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > more testing tools
> > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> > >
> > > Civileme
  

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RE: [newbie] Civilme petition.

[Tony S. Sykes]

I'll sign.

-Original Message-
From: frankie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Civilme petition.




anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition

Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any
other
Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..

Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these
mailing
lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I
mean.)

He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to
mandrake..
I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)

Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that
Civilme
is valuable indeed.


rgds

frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???


you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one
of
the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go,
but
hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
await you.

again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.



>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
> > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >
> > > My involvement with the fixing process is
> > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > more testing tools
> > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> > >
> > > Civileme
  

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[newbie] Civilme petition.

[frankie]

anyone fancy starting a "Save Civilme" petition

Seems a big shame that the guy who fronts to the users more then any other
Mandrake employee is gettting kicked..

Nuts for mandrake really.. since Civilme and Vincent are the two main
reasons these mailing lists are held in such high esteem. And these mailing
lists are what got Mandrake where they are now... (the good stuff I mean.)

He is the face (figuratively speaking) that most of associate to mandrake..
I don't even know the CEO's name, and I don't really want to since he
probably doesn't write code. :-) (and he is probably just a Suit.)

Lets face it, with Linux it's the knowledge we value, and for that Civilme
is valuable indeed.


rgds

frank

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: [newbie] Problem with LM 9.0 - DON'T LEAVE US???


you will be truly missed civileme.  you have provided the user community
with so much help and been pivitol in the acceptance of mandrake as one of
the best linux distributions.  it's mandrakesoft's loss to let you go, but
hopefully they can bring you back quickly, as soon as things improve for
them.  regardless of what happens, i'm certain that great opportunities
await you.

again, thank you for all your wonderful assistance.



>On Monday 29 July 2002 06:09 pm, you wrote:
> > --- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >
> > > My involvement with the fixing process is
> > > becoming distant as I struggle to complete a few
> > > more testing tools
> > > before my lay-off is effective.  (two days hence).
> > >
> > > Civileme







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Re: [newbie] no more X server

[Derek Jennings]

Oh well.  So much for my prediction abilities:-)

I have no idea what those files are, but anything in /tmp is fair game to 
delete. 
In fact a cron job is run daily to run 'tmpwatch' which will automatically 
delete files in /tmp which have not been accessed for more than 240 hours.

derek



On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 8:40 am, Frederic Rooms wrote:
> Hi Derek,
>
> I did what you said. /dev/hda6 is mapped to "/". I did not find an enormous
> log file. But I looked in my /tmp directory and saw three files with the
> same properties:
>  -rwxr-xr-x 1 rooms rooms 624 800 000 July 29 name
>
> where name is: magicFKEYm7*, magicadgKOC* and
> magicMWykf*.
>
> This date corresponds to the crash. I was also using scilab with
> imagemagick => I think that I can delete these three files and get back
> some free space. What do you think ?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Fred
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] no more X server
>
> > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 6:47 am, Frederic Rooms wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am glad to tell you that you guessed the problem: /dev/hda6 is 100%
>
> full.
>
> > > Now, my questions are:
> > >
> > > 1. How can I free some space ?
> > > 2. What is /dev/hda6 ?
> > > 3. Why is full right now ?
> >
> > Lets see if my ability to guess matches et's
> >
> > I predict that looking at /etc/fstab you will see that /dev/hda6 is
> > mapped
>
> to
>
> > either '/' or '/var' and that looking at /var/log  you will see you have
>
> an
>
> > enormous system log.
> >
> > I also predict that the cause of the huge log is the cron job which is
> > supposed to archive the log daily is failing. This can be tested by
>
> opening a
>
> > root terminal and typing 'logrotate'  (without quotes)
> >
> > If I am correct come back and I'll show you how to fix it.
> >
> > (I make this guess because I had the same problem in 8.0
> > ML8.2 seems to be fine)
> >
> > Note: If you cannot boot because of the full partition. Boot up from your
>
> boot
>
> > floppy, and then mount /dev/hda6  You will then be able to browse the
> > directories and delete some unnecessary files. You should then be able to
> > boot normally.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > derek
>
> ---
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>
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Re: [newbie] no more X server

[Frederic Rooms]

Hi Derek,

I did what you said. /dev/hda6 is mapped to "/". I did not find an enormous
log file. But I looked in my /tmp directory and saw three files with the
same properties:
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 rooms rooms 624 800 000 July 29 name

where name is: magicFKEYm7*, magicadgKOC* and
magicMWykf*.

This date corresponds to the crash. I was also using scilab with imagemagick
=> I think that I can delete these three files and get back some free space.
What do you think ?

Thank you,

Fred

- Original Message -
From: "Derek Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] no more X server


> On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 6:47 am, Frederic Rooms wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am glad to tell you that you guessed the problem: /dev/hda6 is 100%
full.
> > Now, my questions are:
> >
> > 1. How can I free some space ?
> > 2. What is /dev/hda6 ?
> > 3. Why is full right now ?
> >
>
>
> Lets see if my ability to guess matches et's
>
> I predict that looking at /etc/fstab you will see that /dev/hda6 is mapped
to
> either '/' or '/var' and that looking at /var/log  you will see you have
an
> enormous system log.
>
> I also predict that the cause of the huge log is the cron job which is
> supposed to archive the log daily is failing. This can be tested by
opening a
> root terminal and typing 'logrotate'  (without quotes)
>
> If I am correct come back and I'll show you how to fix it.
>
> (I make this guess because I had the same problem in 8.0
> ML8.2 seems to be fine)
>
> Note: If you cannot boot because of the full partition. Boot up from your
boot
> floppy, and then mount /dev/hda6  You will then be able to browse the
> directories and delete some unnecessary files. You should then be able to
> boot normally.
>
> HTH
>
> derek
>
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] no more X server

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 30 Jul 2002 6:47 am, Frederic Rooms wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am glad to tell you that you guessed the problem: /dev/hda6 is 100% full.
> Now, my questions are:
>
> 1. How can I free some space ?
> 2. What is /dev/hda6 ?
> 3. Why is full right now ?
>


Lets see if my ability to guess matches et's

I predict that looking at /etc/fstab you will see that /dev/hda6 is mapped to 
either '/' or '/var' and that looking at /var/log  you will see you have an 
enormous system log.

I also predict that the cause of the huge log is the cron job which is 
supposed to archive the log daily is failing. This can be tested by opening a 
root terminal and typing 'logrotate'  (without quotes)

If I am correct come back and I'll show you how to fix it.

(I make this guess because I had the same problem in 8.0
ML8.2 seems to be fine)

Note: If you cannot boot because of the full partition. Boot up from your boot 
floppy, and then mount /dev/hda6  You will then be able to browse the 
directories and delete some unnecessary files. You should then be able to 
boot normally.

HTH

derek





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Re: [newbie] PC restars when i press b

[g2]

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 16:11, civileme wrote:

> Civileme

thanks! you're right it was a hardware problem.  It was the SDRAM, it
was not properly inserted in the SODIMM. now my laptop is doin ok.

hey I read ur leavin, what a loss, hope you'll be back soon, but if not
I wish you goodluck on your next voyage.

thanks!

-- 
g2
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[newbie] Another winmodem question

[Mark Hildabrand]

After loading Mandrake 8.2 for the third time, my USR/3Com 56K FaxModem, 
Model 5610 was able to dial the internet.  Once.  So I believe it's 
configured properly.  But since then, when I try to dial out, KPPP hangs at 
initialization, displaying "Expecting OK".
I'd give up on it and get another modem, but it worked once and the gromit 
winmodem website lists the model as "OK".  So I think I'm missing something. 
  Any ideas?

Cheers,
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[newbie] test sorry!!

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Re: [newbie] Ipchains help

[daRcmaTTeR]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi I was wondering if there is a rule I can set to drop *all* icmp? if 
> so how would I add the rule?

try something like this:

ipchains -A INPUT -p icmp -s 0/0 -j DROP

or


ipchains -A INPUT -p icmp -i $INTERFACE -j DROP

$INTERFACE = your outer interface: if you're using a dialup connection
   $INTERFACE = ppp0

   if you're using a DLS or CABLE
   connection $INTERFACE = eth0
or
   eth1
which ever applies...

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[newbie] OT (maybe) - Matter of Opinion

[Anne Wilson]

Is there any point at all in keeping Linux Format disks that are over a year 
old?  Seems to me that at the rate things change it is unlikely that they 
will ever get used.

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot??

[John Richard Smith]

Charles P. Conrad wrote:

> I presently am dual booting Win98SE and Win2K on a 9 or 10GB HDD.  I 
> also have a 40GB drive with apps and data, partitioned into 9 1/2 GB 
> chunks.
>
> I like Win2K, but it will be my last M$ OS (XP turns me off and 
> Palladium scares me) and would like to replace 98SE, which is on the 
> C: portion of the small HDD and is 2.92GB, with Mandrake 8.2, which a 
> friend with DSL burned the 3 ISOs to CD for me.
>
> As most of E: is devoted to 98 apps and data, that would eventually 
> become available for Mandrake use also.
>
> Everything is FAT32.
>
> The default boot is 98SE on start-up, unless I use the arrow key to 
> select 2000.
>
> I have 1.03GB free space on the C: drive.
>
> It's an old home made box with dual Pentium Pro 200s on an Intel 
> PR440FX mobo and 192MB RAM.
>
> Based on what I've seen on this list in just a few days, I don't even 
> qualify as a "newbie."  Can anyone direct me to where I can get the 
> info I need to accomplish my goal of replacing 98 with Mandrake or 
> utilizing the free GB I have on the C: drive to add 8.2?
>
> TIA.
>  
>
> Chuck Conrad
> Fort Lauderdale, FL
>
>
You have ample harddrive space, adequate ram though not ample,the 
processor is ok,although things will be slow, but  no reason why it 
should not work.I'm not familiar with your mobo.

Chuck , unless you really need it dump w98, make W2k your first 
partition, and this is what  your MBR will be associated with, but put 
W2k on a NTFS file system, not fat32 which is really old hat. You will 
notice the better stability right away.

After that comes your linux partitions, there are a number of choices.
If this is your first Linux OS install and you definately do not want to 
add any other linux OS's in the near future, then your harddrive should 
look something like this ,

W2k(on NTFS) partition ,  Mandrake base / partition,  /Swap partition

If on the otherhand you do plan additional Linux OS's then,

W2k(on NTFS) partition ,/boot partition ,   Mandrake base / partition, 
 /Swap partition

All linux partitions in ext2. file system.

After these you can add any further partitions for backup purposes.

The boot loader is called LILO (Linux Loader) and will be installed in 
your MBR, in chain loader fashion, which means lilo will boot the linux 
OS's and then pass the job over to Windblows boot loader to boot windblows.

The size of the partitions is your choice, I have 4.5 gigs for w2k which 
is ample.
Linux /boot needs perhaps 100mb
Mandrake base /  perhaps 4.5gigs
/swap perhaps  250mb (1 1/2 to 2 x ram)

Good luck.

John

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot??

[Damian G]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:32:48 -0400
"Charles P. Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I presently am dual booting Win98SE and Win2K on a 9 or 10GB HDD.  I also 
> have a 40GB drive with apps and data, partitioned into 9 1/2 GB chunks.
> 
> I like Win2K, but it will be my last M$ OS (XP turns me off and Palladium 
> scares me) and would like to replace 98SE, which is on the C: portion of 
> the small HDD and is 2.92GB, with Mandrake 8.2, which a friend with DSL 
> burned the 3 ISOs to CD for me.
> 
> As most of E: is devoted to 98 apps and data, that would eventually become 
> available for Mandrake use also.
> 
> Everything is FAT32.
> 
> The default boot is 98SE on start-up, unless I use the arrow key to select 
> 2000.
> 
> I have 1.03GB free space on the C: drive.


well, i assume you know how to make partitions to a drive ;oP

anyway, have you booted the CD's? do it just to see how the installation's
first screens look. i guess you can say i was a bit suicidal, but the
first time i installed linux in my life, it was a Mandrake 7.1 CD i got
with a magazine. i installed with 0 help, 0 manuals, just reading the
buttons' captions, the 'help' text shown in the screen during the installation, 
and a couple of trial-and-error installs ;o)

really, installing Linux is no harder than Win98 or 2K, in fact,
it may be even easier.


just a couple of warnings: 
1- make backups before starting the installation. and
defrag all your harddrives ( go into defrag's options and click NOT to
arrange apps so they start up faster. Do  this so the data is well
arranged in the drive and the partitions can be resized more easily)

you see, Linux can be installed on FAT32 ( or so i heard around here)
but it's really not the right thing to do. you are going to have
to delete/resize some  of your partitions and create new ones for linux.
( Mandrake's installation program includes a 'select partition' stage
which will let you do all kinds of operations on your partitions without
hassle, and it's quite easy to use.  )

and 2- don't select the 'newbie' kind of installation, as it takes care
of the partitioning automatically and may end up overwriting partitions
that are valuable to you. choose the 'expert' one. 

.. well, there's really not much left unless you feel like posting back
with more questions..

good luck.

Damian

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Re: [newbie] no more X server

[Frederic Rooms]

Hi,

I am glad to tell you that you guessed the problem: /dev/hda6 is 100% full.
Now, my questions are:

1. How can I free some space ?
2. What is /dev/hda6 ?
3. Why is full right now ?

Thank you,

fred

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From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] no more X server


> On Monday 29 July 2002 10:59 am, you wrote:
> > In reply to Frederic's mail, d.d. Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:27:57 +0200:
> >
> > Did you power down the PC?
> > If not, switch if off, leave it off for a bit and switch it on again and
> > see what happens. Perhaps some registers in the processor are off and
these
> > only reset by a power down/power up sequence.
> > Paul
> >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >I was working on linux mandrake 8.0 with scilab,netscape. I was not
> > >installing a rpm or something else: just working as a normal user.
> > >Suddendly, I tried to increase the stacksize of scilab when it crashed.
I
> > >was surprised but continued to work. I tried to print: no more lpd
server
> > >availabe. I logged out and restarted the pc: no more x server. It stops
at
> > >the screen asking for a username and password and the return to level 3
!
> > > I tried to upgrade the system with the original cd because I thougt I
> > > could reinstall the X server. When I boot on installation CD, it works
> > > until it checks for the installation package and says: "segmentation
> > > fault: missing memory. Install crashes". Has anyone a solution ?
> less see, got any hard drive spce left? what does "df say? got a partition
> around  99%? got a bad mem chip (run memtest86?)
>
>






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[newbie] Dual Boot??

[Charles P. Conrad]

I presently am dual booting Win98SE and Win2K on a 9 or 10GB
HDD.  I also have a 40GB drive with apps and data, partitioned into
9 1/2 GB chunks.
I like Win2K, but it will be my last M$ OS (XP turns me off and Palladium
scares me) and would like to replace 98SE, which is on the C: portion of
the small HDD and is 2.92GB, with Mandrake 8.2, which a friend with DSL
burned the 3 ISOs to CD for me.
As most of E: is devoted to 98 apps and data, that would eventually
become available for Mandrake use also.
Everything is FAT32.
The default boot is 98SE on start-up, unless I use the arrow key to
select 2000.
I have 1.03GB free space on the C: drive.
It's an old home made box with dual Pentium Pro 200s on an Intel PR440FX
mobo and 192MB RAM.
Based on what I've seen on this list in just a few days, I don't even
qualify as a "newbie."  Can anyone direct me to where I
can get the info I need to accomplish my goal of replacing 98 with
Mandrake or utilizing the free GB I have on the C: drive to add
8.2?
TIA.
 

Chuck Conrad
Fort Lauderdale, FL





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