Re: [newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:40 am, Margot wrote: Browsing in my local library a few months ago, trying to find any useful books on computing, I discovered that they stored the computer books next to the books on...the Loch Ness Monster! The librarian explained that it was because of the classification codes - apparently there are plenty of other codes in between Nessie and M$, but my small village branch library doesn't stock much non-fiction, so they ended up next to each other on the shelf in the science section. Margot this is getting OT, but oh well. i havn't checked my school's library to see what they have on linux in there. i was working on scheduling for next semester, and found a class that's description said access, html, and unix. i was stoked! then i found out that the class was only availible for computer majors, of which i am not. i'm currently a psych major, until i can get my major changed to Criminal Justice and then i'll tke psych as a minor. anyway, i set an appointment to talk to the professor that teaches that course, figured if it's good enough, i'd try to get pink slipped into it so i could learn some UNIX and get credits for it. he was very honest with me in that he is not a unix expert, and only knows the basics, and that's all he teaches in that class, most of the focus is on access. the next class he teaches a little bit more about unix, but not much. so i was disappointed. then he gave me the real disappointment. the university used to have a professor that was a unix expert. unfortunately, he retired a few years ago and the university hasn't replaced him. that was upsetting, as i would've loved to take a unix class as a free elective, pick up some credits for it, AND have some good knowledge to take home with me and be able to put it to use almost immediately. i tried the basic linux class online, but fell behind quick, and never completed it. if i was able to take a class at school on linux, i'd have more time to devote to it and get things done, plus i'd have what i need to learn computer stuffone-on-one help. i can't read a text book on computer stuff or read a webpage article and fully understand what's going on. i only know one person that can explain computer things to me in terms i understand, and he has taught me all i know. but he lives in florida and i live in pennsylvania, and i've only seen him once in the past 2 1/2 years, although we do keep in touch. oh well. downloaded 9.2 friday night and hoping to get it installed over thanksgiving weekend. if not then, i'll get installed over xmas break, which would probably be better, because if i make a mistake and wipe out my system, i'll be hurting, as i have a lot of school related stuff saved on one of my hard drives. it'd hurt to lose things like that 2 weeks before finals :O Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:06 am, Margot wrote: LOL! Priceless! Thank you so much for posting your 'confession' - made my morning ;-) Margot gee, glad my idiocy made your morning.. ;) yeah, i just sat here in shock when i realized what was going on. and really, i thought i had the loch ness monster living in my computer. i definetly don't have the loch ness monster living in there. if i did, what i'd really have is a M$ win OS that actually WORKED! finding that is the equivelent of finding the Nessie lol Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
On Monday 10 November 2003 08:07 pm, crak600 wrote: I'm on cable. occasionally, i'll get an e-mail, or i'll open a web page or whatever, internet related sounds, and i'll get sounds from cable TV coming out of my computer speakers. The other day it went on for maybe 30 seconds until i switched web pages, i thought it was something related to the web page, but due to the page's contents and the nature of the TV program's audio, they couldn't of been related. the strangest thing is that my cable line for the computer is completely separate from the TV line. the cable company ran a separate line into my house for the computer. i don't even know if i can run a TV off of this line. they said it was a dedicated line for the computer. anyone else ever have this happen? it's not troubling, just odd. really odd. and i can't make it happen, it just happens on it's own. very strange. just very strange. any input? thanks. Mike and now i feel really dumb. turns out that sound wasn't coming through the cable line. i have a mpeg on the desktop, short clip i took of one of my dogs in REM sleep (Rapid Eye Movement) with her paws and legs twitching. guess i'd accidentily slide the mouse over it and it'd start, but no media player would pop up, no image would pop up, just sound! and here i thought i had the loch ness monster living in my computer! (show on the loch ness monster was on TV when i shot the video clip). DOH! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 09:03 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Mike: Have you tried getting the Playboy channel? -- cmg Or even freakier - broadcasts from the past...or future! (try to see what the winning lottery numbers are going to be!):-) if i could do that, do you think i'd tell anybody? i wouldn't have time to sit here and type an e-mail, i'd be busy spending my $300M lotto winnings lol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
I'm on cable. occasionally, i'll get an e-mail, or i'll open a web page or whatever, internet related sounds, and i'll get sounds from cable TV coming out of my computer speakers. The other day it went on for maybe 30 seconds until i switched web pages, i thought it was something related to the web page, but due to the page's contents and the nature of the TV program's audio, they couldn't of been related. the strangest thing is that my cable line for the computer is completely separate from the TV line. the cable company ran a separate line into my house for the computer. i don't even know if i can run a TV off of this line. they said it was a dedicated line for the computer. anyone else ever have this happen? it's not troubling, just odd. really odd. and i can't make it happen, it just happens on it's own. very strange. just very strange. any input? thanks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] this is strange...TV sounds coming through my computer
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 03:46 am, Marc wrote: Not all that odd at all. A classic case of TVI ( TV interference ) And there could be a number of causes. Do you have any kind of a large plastic window cut into your computer like a lot of folks do for game machines, that could be a factor. What you have is a signal escaping from your computer and probably mixing with an other signal producing a sum and difference frequency that is in the reception range of your TV or cable box. If you want to stop this signal leakage go to Radio Shack or a good electronics suppler and get some ferrite beads to go around any cables coming out of your computer. Power cord speakers, printer cable etc. Put the ferrite beads on the cables as close to the computer as possible and the problem will probably dissapear. This is the short quick explanation. Whole books have been written about this sort of problem so needless to say I don't have the space to go into all the detail here. my computer is in a cabinet in my desk, solid box, no plastic windows or anything like that. the nearest TV is directly above me in a bedroom, and there's 2 walls between the computer and the TV in the living room. so nothing is extremely close to it. the strangest part though, was that was was coming through the speakers was NOT on the TV at the time. the audio from a Discovery Channel show on the Loch Ness monster was coming through, but when i ran into the next room and switched the TV to discovery channel, that show wasn't on. maybe i have found the loch ness monsterit's living in my computer desklol thanks Marc. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
On Monday 08 September 2003 10:23 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 16:44:01 + crak600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but every other document/file/picture/whatever i get e-mailed to me that i want to save, i save it to my other hard drive, which is all FAT32. i actually do want to figure out how to make KMail save all my e-mail on one of those FAT32 partitions, so if i have to wipe out MDK for whatever reason (or screw it up and wipe it all out) if/when you ever had to reinstall Mandrake, you don't have to format your /home partition, in fact there's no reason to at all. also, saving your mail to a fat32 partition defeats the whole purpose of using Linux, ie. you are potentially saving mail that may contain malicious code that the Windows partition, once booted into that horrible OS, will do exactly what it is programmed to do, whereas on a Linux partition it will just sit there, harmless. ok, i understand that the /home partition doesn't need to be formatted out, just the / when doing a re-install or whatever. but i did that once already to solve some problems and i lost everything in kmail. that was a lot to lose, i was not happy. i don't want to have it happen again. i do, however, know how to go in and make partitions using diskdrake, and i could make myself another journalized fs3 partition specifically for storing mail, but after that, i don't know how to move everything over to it and keep it all there so i don't lose it again. hard drive space is not an issue for me. i've got ms-win and mdk on a 20gb hard drive (with / and /home both recieving 7gb space each) and i've got a 100gb hard drive for storage of anything and everything, and it's partitioned 6 ways currently, so carving out another partition speficially for e-mail, no problem. i prefer to do things this way anyway, as it can save a lot of data in the event of bad things happening. so can anyone help me walk through this so i don't lose all my stuff? it looks like i'm going to format out / within the next few days and start all over again. i've screwed it up pretty good. i can't even do updates. i really don't want to have to go through all this again, i've got just bout all my settings where i really like them, but hey, it's more practice on setting up the system, as i've only done it maybe 3-4 times. yeah, it's the easy way out, but i'm running on a full schedule between kids and school, so sometimes i gotta opt for the easiest quickest way to fix something. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
On Monday 08 September 2003 11:21 am, ed tharp wrote: I think I see what you mean, and maybe, for you, a decoder might take some of the overhead from the CPU. I would see if I had something sharing the IRQ with the sound card tho. and see if moving the sound card might make some difference. what does, as root, in a text terminal cat /proc/interrupts say? cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 26116823 XT-PIC timer 1: 342338 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 5 XT-PIC rtc 10: 257731 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0 11: 31266512 XT-PIC es1371 12:1788118 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 230462 XT-PIC ide0 15: 521943 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 26116206 ERR: 30460 MIS: 0 what would be sharing on this? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
On Saturday 06 September 2003 05:56 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: I'm a little fuzzy on just what your video problems are. If you inherited the GeF card on a screwed mobo, it could just be that the card is compromised also. I believe I'd boot to lilo, an hit Esc, then, 'linux init 3 mem=860M' (check you current lilo.conf, you might need to add other parameters, eg, acpi=off) and as root run 'XFdrake'. Choose conservative video card an monitor settings to get started with. Probly 1024x768 @ 60Hz, 30-70 kHz HorizSync 50-120 Hz VertRefresh. 'lspcidrake' and 'ddcxinfos' will tell you which video card you have, and what your monitor specs are (HorizSync, VertRefresh) if the hardware has this info imbedded in it's firmware. There's another utility that reports onboard video ram, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is. If anyone knows what it is, please chime in. i have no specs on this card other than what the manufacturer's web site says. Vram shouldn't be a problem for configuring the Vcard an monitor tho. As to 'old' stanza's in lilo.conf, just delete them, an run 'lilo'. I believe MCC has a GUI for doin it too. If your /boot partition is gettin full, carefully delete old images (vmlinuz) an initrd's. They're the only files that use a lot of disk space, the links (system.map, config*, etc.) you can leave (or delete). Just be careful. If you have a spare partition to back up to, it's probly a good idea to backup /boot before you try any deleting. ok, i'll give this stuff a shot, except the deleting files stuff, i'll get to that later. i'm not too worried about hard drive space, as when i did the install i gave mdk almost 15Gb and split it right down the middle into / and /home, and i rarely use /home to save my stuff to, but i'll keep all the deleting stuff in mind for the future. all the 'old' linux things on the lilo screen are because i re-installed in order to get back into mdk. i knew i wouldn't lose all my settings if i just did a re-install. however, it's the 'old' ones that i screwed up royally. so just go ahead and delete them out and then update the 'new' stuff online for security and bug fixes and what not? since i'm in linux i can use the GUI to try to change the screen resolution and refresh and rates and all that instead of going into the command line. yes, i like the GUI for some things, command line for others. hey, i'm a new 'convert', command line is totally new to me, while i'm not afraid to use it, when dealing with multiple option settings (like all the stuff that can be done to the montier settings) i'd prefer the GUI. thanks, i'll see how this all goes. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
On Sunday 07 September 2003 04:25 am, Marc wrote: Wrong. Rebooting into windoze would only cause a problem if you then open the virus in a windoze email client or somehow transfered the virus to your windoze partition well, currently all my mail is saved onto my /home partition, but every other document/file/picture/whatever i get e-mailed to me that i want to save, i save it to my other hard drive, which is all FAT32. i actually do want to figure out how to make KMail save all my e-mail on one of those FAT32 partitions, so if i have to wipe out MDK for whatever reason (or screw it up and wipe it all out) i don't lose some stuff i've got in my e-mail currently, some of it is good information that i'm just too lazy to save in a different way. however, the next time i do boot into windoze, i do have to get AVG to update it's virus list and then just sit back and watch, because it does checks all the time on it's own. however, this e-mail account (which is my primary) is only used in linux. i NEVER open it in windows anymore, and if there's something i get e-mailed here that i think i need in windows, i foreward it to myself on another account and go to windows to retrieve it. You can be glad that you do not have win xp for more reasons than just the virus issues. I have used machines with 95, 98, ME and XP as best as I can tell the single biggest difference between 98 and XP is eye candy. Same old winblows crap with a lot more eye candy and a generous portion of bloat added also. I almost forgot a defragmentation utility that is as F#$ked up as a football bat. Any given machine seems to run much slower when 98 is upgraded to XP, and to top that off there still seems to be a lot of issues with getting drivers to work in XP. IMHO in the last 5 years all MS has been able to do is take a bad product and make it worse. A few new features were added but I cant see where getting a few improvements were worth the problems that came with them. I have seen much more genuine improvement from Mandrake in the 6 months that it took mandrake to change from 9.0 to 9.1 than I have seen from MS in the 5 years that it took to go from 98 to XP. Oh well enough of my rant. i am glad i'm not using windows often. while i have heard some things about XP, there's an extensive process that must be done to turn off a lot of programs hiding in teh background that are sitting there eating up memory and resources, and MS did not make it easy to find the switch to turn them off at boot up. but everything that has gone on in the ms world and them trying to control what we do with a computer loaded with their software, i just don't like it. that's one of the main reasons i'm trying to stay away from it at all costs. i just can't justify supporting that way of thinking. while i'm not violently lashing out against it, when in computer related discussions with friends and whatnot, i do bring up linux and am able to inform them of what i know about it and what i've seen as advantages and disadvantages over using a MS OS (disadvantage - gotta start learning how to use the command line, it was a struggle for me at first, now i'm comfortable with it). linux is a disadvantage to some people because all they want to do is point and click, but even then most of what i do in linux has become point and click thanks to the GUIs. but even when doing things in the GUIs, i still feel i have more control over the system than i ever did in ms. but now this is kinda going off topic, so to boil it back down to linux...from what you all say, the threat of a virus attack isn't here, and it's one less thing to worry about. that's good, and i like that. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus - different ms e-mail programs
On Sunday 07 September 2003 01:05 pm, Michael Scottaline wrote: = No need for a flame war, but I'd suggest that those who still, for whatever reason, use some iteration Windows, try to avoid using the virus magnet known as Outlook or Express. There are numerous alternatives that will work on that platform without the dangers to self and others imposed by Outlook usage. someone said they use Pegasus, and i found it to be an EXCELLENT alternitive to the MS mail programs. i hated outlook and express. Pegasus is loaded with features but yet very simple to use. i liked it because you can just set it up very simply and use it as is or if you're the type that's looking to do more with it, it is very easy to work with. best of all, it's FREE. so for the MS e-mail users, i'd suggest taking a look at pegasus if you're using outlook or express. you get what you pay for, but i never had a problem with pegasus and i used it for several months before i made the switch to linux. just a suggestion for those ms users looking for something different. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
so here's a question about the viruses. does a router with a natural firewall built in help out at all? i'm on cable and i run a 4 port router, even though i only have one computer on it, and i only use the router for the firewall protection, just to keep the hackers out. but since my IP address stops at the router and my machine gets a different IP address, because the router gives it an IP address like it's on a network, does this help out at all in the stopping of spreading any viruses? if i am wrong in any of this, please correct me. i was told that what is seen from the outside is one IP address, and if i was running 4 computers off of the router, only the one IP address assigned to me by the cable company would be seen on the 'outside' using basic means to see it. of course, they could use some programs to see there are more machines on the network if they really wanted to, but that'd start being an invasion of privacy at a certain point. like i said, if i'm wrong, correct me. please. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
On Sunday 07 September 2003 08:07 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: big snips of my mistakes and corrections for them 32mb is plenty. Set the aperature to 32 also. You'll never need more than that. Most of the time you're only usin about 4mb of video ram, even at the resolutions you mentioned I snipped. A lot of onboard video ram is mostly a marketing gimmick. set what aperature? i might be getting more experimental with video here as i go on. since i've got the DVD drive now, i was talking to a friend about a DVD Decoder card, as it will take the processing strain off the processor and give me more head room there. using mplayer for DVD playback, my processor jumps from 60% useage all the way to 90% at times during playback. never below 60% during DVD playing, and i'm running an AMD 950MHz Slot A processor. if i start composing an e-mail or doing extensive surfing at the same time, i'll hit 100% processor use and the video playback will start to get choppy, but the sound chugs along just fine most of the time. so getting something in there to take some strain off the processor would be nice, and might even make the graphics better during DVD playback. I dunno, I've never had that happen, and I have changed video cards before. I wouldn't worry about it tho. Probly an artifact left from an upgrade, rather than a fresh install. ok, won't worry about it. Sounds like all you've got left to do is get rid of the 'old' stanzas in lilo.conf. Actually you could'a removed them during the upgrade usin the installer's tool. Now just edit lilo.conf, delete them an re-run lilo. I believe you can also do this with a GUI in MCC. ok, will do. thanks a lot Tom, the help is greatly appreciated. i know i can get to it through the MCC GUI, as i removed 'windows 2' from lilo that way. 'windows 2' was my 2nd hard drive, which has no operating system on it, so it was not needed in any way shape or form in the lilo. once again, thanks for your help. hopefully i can get it all right this time and can soon just post a quick 'update' that all issues are resolved and i'm back on track. :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
On Saturday 06 September 2003 03:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday September 6 2003 01:20 am, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Did you install a kernel capable of using that much memory when you did your upgrade? I believe you need to do the initial install with the standard kernel and then, afterwards, you can install the Enterprise Kernel to take advantage of the extra RAM. You need to specify a lower amount of RAM to do the initial install or it will not work. Once you have upgraded the kernel you can then specify the new (larger) amount of RAM, re-install your nVidia drivers, if that is what you used, and you're off to the races. Same thing I was wonderin. With 1 gig of ram I believe he'd be better off keeping the UP kernel and adding 'mem=860M' to lilo, or booting with 'linux mem=860M'. There's a significant memory management performance hit in the BigMem (enterprise) kernels in order to provide addressing = 4gig's of ram. i remember reading that somewhere that something needed to be addressed in order to run over a certain figure of ram, but when i was playing around with it, it started downloading something, and i assumed it was a kernel patch or something to handle the higher amount of memory. yes, i assumed. hell, half the time i just assume what it's downloading is what i need, and so far i havn't had any problems. until now, of course. I have an nvidia GeF2, but use the XFree86 driver. IIRC, there's issues with nvidia's proprietary driver and = 1 gig of ram and/or the bigmem kernels. I think the mem=860 restriction with the UP kernel would eliminate those problems too (if they still exist?). well, i'll keep that driver in mind for the nvidia GeF2 card and i'll give it a try later, although right now, i have seen a noticable change in my screen image when i pulled the RIVA card and put the GeF2 card in. i have no clue what the capabilities of the card are either, as i didn't buy it, it came inside a comp case that had a bad motherboard. NVIDIA tech support couldn't even tell me, other than to just check the specs on their website, so as far as i know, it could only be a 32Mb card or it could be a 64mb or 128mb, i have no clue. so anyway, how do i fix my screwups? the lilo screen now has all the regular options plus the old linux, old linux-nonfb, old linux failsafe, which those are the ones that i can't get anywhere in. do i just forge onward and remove those things from lilo.conf or can i fix what i screwed up? thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
On Sunday 07 September 2003 02:52 am, HaywireMac wrote: You could save yourself a whole lot of money, flush McAfee, AVG, and whatever whatchamacallits that make $ from Microsoft's egregious incompetence, down the toilet if you would get rid of at least Outhouse, at best the whole Windows thang. The only *reason* people who run Linux even *use* anti-virus software (which is free BTW), for the most part, is to be nice and not allow viruses to spread to people who are unlucky enough to use Windows. on my windows side, i do run AVG, that's the only virus program i run, and it's free, does updates for free and when in windows, i have it running all the time (although i rarely use windows anymore). i havn't ever seen the need for 3 or 4 virus programs running at one time in windows, i've only ever run 1 at a time. and over the course of a year before i started running virus programs, i only ever picked up one virus. EVER. and to top it off, i spent years on AOL and only ever got that one virus. over the next few years running virus protection all the time, i never picked up a single virus and was never alerted to any viruses in my system or e-mails. people i knew on aol used to pick up viruses left and right, but they'd only be running a single virus program that did free updates whenever needed and the viruses were always blocked before they infected their computer. you don't need to be THAT worried, just pick one program that automatically does updates and you'll be fine. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Viruses..........
On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:28 am, Charlie M. wrote: Probably, but what I posted is still what I think. People running MS virusware shouldn't be calling us or this list infection focal points. I thought there were more than two, and I've also seen a s**t load for every post I've made to newbie and expert. Those all die in /dev/null though. g so lemme get this straight, a ms-win virus could be picked up in linux, but then wouldn't do anything until you booted the computer back into windows, right? from everything i read about that sobig virus, it didn't touch win98 machines, i did updates anyway just in case. makes me glad i didn't go and buy winXP. it was the fact that i was completely sick of win98 that i started using mandrake :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
i opened up the comp to take the NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 card out and replace it with an NVIDIA GeFORCE2 MX200. now that i'm in linux, i can see a noticible difference in the clarity and crispness of things on the screen, and i havn't even tried playing DVDs yet. but the key words in the above sentence.'now that i'm in linux'. upon firing the computer back up, i went chose linux at the lilo screen. it detected new hardware and the removal of hardware, and i went and configured it right there. i guess that was my mistake. i let it test itself, it eventually put me to a black screen at the command line asking for a log-in. once i halted the system, i booted back in again, chose linux again, and after a it booted up, it went back to the same black screen. linun-nonfb does this too. i am only able to get into the graphical desktop by using 'failsafe' and i have to choose that i want to enter in a graphical mode and enter the root password so the INIT runlevel will go from 3 to 5 to let me into the system (at least that's what i notice it does while things are scrolling up the screen). so anyway how do i fix this? i'd like to be able to get into the system normally when the computer sees a reboot every week or so, for whatever reason it may be, gotta love it, full week w/out reboot and even then it's not because of problems...i'll never be a regular ms-windows user again. ok, that's getting off topic so yeah, how do i fix this? help greatly appreciated. thanks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphical Log-in Problem
ok, i should be shot. i will try to defend myself later after i discribe what i did. i still don't know why. i re-installed, i didn't delete out anything, i told it to 'upgrade' to essentially what i already had, MDK9.1. why i did this, well, i was playing around in MCC after i sent the last e-mail to the list, found the area to set up how the system boots. great! this should work good. and i swear the ONLY thing i changed was telling it how much ram i have, as i just added 2 new sticks and put the system from 768 to 1024mb, but (DOH!) i entered the wrong number, i thin i put 1084mb in there. so when i went to reboot, i couldn't get in AT ALL. said something about vga/mem needed a value or something like that. i absolutely had no clue what i was doing, and i really did NOT want to boot into win98. that's how much i don't want to use it, that i'm willing to screw up the whole mdk install and have to format it out and start over from nothing. luckily, the only thing saved on my /home is my e-mail (i'm using kmail, can someone tell me how to get it to save to another partition, like one on my 2nd hard drive so i don't lose everything) and my bookmarks in mozilla. so i wouldn't lose anythign important at least, everything is saved on a 2nd hard drive that's a FAT32 file type. so what do i do now? i swear i will not touch another thing until someone tells me what i need to do. honest. this time i won't decide to forge on w/out a clue about what i'm doing. if i need to supply more info, let me know, i'll be more than happy to dig it up. thanks. Mike The Error Lies Between The Keyboard And The Chair why i got so dumb with the computer tonight i'm exhausted. i just finished my 2nd week of college, i havn't been in for 7 years and i'm on freshman level. i started hitting the gym again after maybe a 5 year absence, so not only am i mentally exhausted, but i'm physically exhausted, and strained a muscle in my neck last friday (not in the gym, thankfully), recovered very quickly, and was in the gym again this past week, even though i probably shouldn't of been, it is still a little tender. so yeah, physically and mentally exhausted and drained. my bios is giving me slight problems right now, i really don't to play with it and i have a friend who kicks ass with hardware, i'll get him to tell me how to fix it. i spent a few hours earlier this evening trying to get a 2nd computer up and running, only to find out that the motherboard is pretty much fried, but that's ok, the wife picked it up for $5 and i got a good hard drive (too bad my motherboard is IDE and so are all 3 hard drives, cause i don't have room for a 3rd hard drive, running CD-RW and DVD drives), DVD ROM drive, 4 sticks of ram (2 of them 256mb, which i plugged into this computer earlier tonight), a better NVIDIA video card, a Creative MIDI drive (dunno if it works, don't know if i'll ever have a use for it), another ethernet card (which i will test soon to see if it is good, wouldn't mind a spare one of those either), and an HP 14GB tape drive, but no tapes (oh well, don't really have a use for it). plus another case and power supply, both of which are good. essentially, all i need to build a 2nd computer now is a motherboard (that runs PC133 sdram), processor (the processor in the dead board might still be good though), floppy drive, sound card, and a CD-RW drive. but what does this have to do with my problem? after being so exhausted from the past 2 weeks, from the time i came home from school today until about 30 minutes ago all i have been doing is playing with the computers. so i've been messing with the comptuers for about 8 hours now, with a few breaks, but still.. i should go to bed. i'm rambling and my dogs are wondering why i'm talking while i type, like i'm holding a conversation with the computer. make a joke about all this, i don't care, unless it's a bad joke. i can handle a joke, but bad jokes just shouldn't be told, they're just not funny. they're disappointing. make a good joke, i could use a laugh. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Did I lose my NTFS partition?
On Friday 05 September 2003 11:50 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: Which means dog fucking slow... i really didn't need that mental image lmao Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No sound in Games after running mplayer
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 07:56 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: I believe there's a way to reduce the suspend aRts time from 60s, but since I never needed it, I'm not familiar with it. Sorry. havn't kept up with this thread too entirely much, but to change the aRTs suspend time in KDE K Menu Configuration KDE Sound Sound System you'll see all the options there, including the option to 'autosuspend' arts for however many seconds you want it to or to just remove that option completely. i just found this the other day as i was having sound problems while playing DVDs. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gaim
On Monday 01 September 2003 12:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody knows gaim? you have the option to show a horizontal buddy ticker, it's a plugin. i __deactivated__ the plugin, but the ticker is showing after a few minutes again. i dont like this feature... i thought it could be that the settings arent saved, so i avtivated the ticker, exit gaim nicley, start it, deactivated the ticker and closed gaim again. but it's coming all the time. any idea? remo all i did was go into preferences, general, and disabled the buddy ticker from there. i'm still using version 0.59, which is in the mdk 9.1 distro. i installed 0.66 from the rpm and i can't find it and i've tried to install 0.67 through a terminal and i can't get it to work, although i'm missing one thing i still have to download for it i believe. i've had a lot of problems trying to upgrade with something that should be relatively easy to do (and i followed the instructions in the 'install' document). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD and Sound
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 05:24 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Did you check capitalisation - arts is not the same as aRts. sure did. John had it as aRts, and if you go KDE sound sound system it has it as aRTs. i've tried all in a terminal and it still doesn't tell me where it is, even though i have it if i follow that path in the K menu. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD and Sound
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 am, John Richard Smith wrote: KDE CC - sound - Sound system - | X | the option to enable aRts. found it, aRTs was enabled. i'll turn it off the next time i try to watch a DVD. don't have time to do it now. i'll let you know what happens. If you want to find out which lame version you currently have do, rpm -qa | grep lame in a terminal and see what it say's nothing comes up when i enter that command, and i did it as root as well. i'll give that a shot later too, got a class coming up in a little while and gotta get ready to go. thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD and Sound
On Monday 01 September 2003 05:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote: If you have both Aumix and Kmix turned right up full and have set them as such as default settings, maybe you need to look at gmplayer itself, there are a number of audio driver settings in preferences, if that does not work, then I would suspect you need better versions of lame. Mplayer is a very demanding programme, a hell of a lot of resource goes into playing moving pictures, some sound drivers may not work well with mplayer. I installed Ralph Slooten's, lame-20030216cvs-1mdk.i586.rpm from his website. One last thought maybe you have aRts enabled ? in MCC John as far as i can see i don't have arts on here. i checked for services running and it's not listed, i went to the uninstall software option and looked for it and didn't see it, and in a terminal asked 'which arts' and it says there are no arts in and lists locations. did i miss anywhere to check? i've done the aumix and kmix volumes and it doesn't help. i've tried different audio drivers in mplayer and from what i've seen only one works with my sound card. i tried quite a few different ones already though. what is lame for? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DVD and Sound
i recently aquired a DVD ROM drive. i wasn't able to install the newest verison of XINE successfully, so i went ahead with mplayer. i can watch dvds now, but the volume is incredibly low. i have it all the way up on mplayer but it's not loud enough compared to other computer sounds, and when i turn the external volume up on the 4.1 creative sound system i have, other computer sounds blow me across the room because they are so loud. i'm using a soundblaster 16PCI card. Aumix only adjusts overall sounds. anyone know where i can adjust the output sound of mplayer? i don't want to get blown away by computer sounds because i have to turn the volume up to watch a DVD. thanks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] having problems installing a program
On Friday 22 August 2003 07:11 am, John Richard Smith wrote: It doesn't like your GCC compiler, or complains you haven't got one installed, do this, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep gcc gcc-c++-3.2.2-3mdk gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk libgcc1-3.2.2-3mdk gcc-3.2.2-3mdk to see what gcc compiler you have installed. this is what i have [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep gcc libgcc1-3.2.2-3mdk gcc-cpp-3.2.2-3mdk so, i feel dumb asking, but how do i get a new compiler? i wanna upgrade this version of GAIM and then toss some plug-ins in for it. buddy of mine is bugging me to put the MSN Messenger plug-in into GAIM, because that's all he uses at home. i really don't wanna put MSN messenger into a linux OS, that just sounds like a conflict of interests there, and i'm still trying to convince him to just install AIM on his home computer. but all that aside, i wanna get GAIM updated on my box, as version 0.59 has given me some minor problems. Thanks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] having problems installing a program
i'm trying to upgrade GAIM from version 0.59 to 0.67. using the rpm didn't work right, so i downloaded the tar.gz file and followed the install directions, but it's giving me a problem. here it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/win_c2/gaim/gaim-0.67 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gaim-0.67]# ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for sed... /bin/sed checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no checking for cc... no checking for cl... no configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details. so is it telling me that i need to install some other types of programs in order to install this updated version of GAIM? thanks in advance. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse Problems
this is gonna sound really weird, i can't explain it. my scroll mouse fully functions now and i have no idea why. i've played with the configuration to no end and couldn't get it to work. earlier today i had rebooted into ms-win to burn some photo cds, when i booted back into linux, the scroll wheel still didn't work except for being a button when pressed. a few hours later, a horrible thunderstorm swept through, our power went out, so of course the computer shut off instantly. when the power came back and i fired the box up, and at the prompts for it to fix the system from being shut down incorrectly, i told it to do so. i played around for a while, then opened up a web page, i rolled the scroll wheel and it worked! strange but true. oh well. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mouse Problems
Posted this to the list yesterday but it still hasn't hit the list. and as said below, having a hell of a time accessing the archives. so here it is again, hope someone can help (and hope it makes it to the list this time). sorry to put this to the list w/out searching the archives first, but i'm having trouble searching the archives. most of the time when i try to access it i get a timeout and can't get in. anyway bought a basic logitech optical scroll mouse. PS2 connection, not serial or USB. problem is i can't figure out how (and where) to make the changes so the up/down on the scroll wheel act as the 4th and 5th buttons. i've found a few psaux icons while searching through the system, but every time i try to access one it tells me it's an unknown file or it says it's empty or something similar. i had googled for information on it and after searching through almost 30 pages i found some incomplete answers. there was mention about the sketchiness of the mouse too, and it is jumpy occasionally. what i found said there is a fix for that also, but i can't find where and what i need to change or modify. anyone able to lend some knowledge to this? the scrolling does work in ms-win, and in mdk i can push the scroll wheel and it acts like the 3rd button, so i know the mouse is fully functional. thanks in advance. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse Problems
On Friday 15 August 2003 08:07 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 19:50, ed tharp wrote: As root, in a text console mousedrake choose 'logitec mouseman+' I think that should do what you want, maybe not. run the test though. didn't work. as far as any test, the only thing i know of is in mandrake control center where you can select the mouse. the left and right buttons will light up when pressed in there. the scroll wheel won't light up when pressed or scrolled, but it works as a 3rd button. i had already changed the mouse in mcc w/out any luck. also went into mozilla preferences and tried to tell it how i wanted to scroll with the scroll button, no luck there either. dunno what to do now. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] system crash....why?
isn't there somewhere that linux keeps a lot of what the system does? i'm sitting here this morning, got gaim, kmail, mozilla, and KsCD running, all of the sudden the mozilla window closes. figured that was pretty odd. i go to the kmail window, click on it, it closes. i turned off Gaim myself, but then the menu bar at the bottom of the screen wouldn't come up at all when i moved the mouse over it, so i switch to the desktop KsCD is on, try to turn that off, it disappears. so now i'm thinking the you konw what has hit the fan. before i can try an alt ctrl backspace to get out of linux and to the saftey of a reboot before i get a complete system crash, the system crashed. so now i'm forced to hit the restart button on the box. after a few failed attempts to get into linux, i throw the boot disc in the drive (cause off the CD alone it wouldn't go). i tell it to do an install and figure i'll just wait til prompted and rescue the installation. didn't give me that choice, guess it did it on it's own. couple of things came up about it sent kill signals and what not and said it was save to reboot my computer. i reboot and everything seems fine. but. does the system keep track of stuff like this so i can go in and check WHY it crashed? and if it does, where is there a definition of what that stuff means, because i prolly won't understand it on my own. besides my numerous CD drive failures, this is the only time i remember that the system has crashed. help appreciated, or a point or kick in teh right direction. :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
On Monday 11 August 2003 09:04 pm, Dow Mathis wrote: Beat's me, Harv. I saw the post by the other guy, and it got my curiosity up. When I followed his link to http://stoppoliceware.org , they referenced the bill S. 2048. So I went on a scavenger hunt and ended up with the info I posted. I started not to answer at all, but I didn't see any point in letting others get their panties in a wad over something that didn't come to pass. dow if it didn't pass, that's a good thing. while my panties weren't completely in a wad, i am concerned over the whole issue. i think it's something that we all need to be aware of that they have the intent of doing something like this and that more than likely it will become a reality sooner or later. while yes, 90% of the things people now do are considered illegial and copyright infringement, there are the other 10% that would be copying material that they own for legimate purposes, like the people that do buy a CD but then want to make a compilation CD of different artists for their own personal enjoyment. i know my wife is one of those people that jsut wants to hear a few songs off of an album, using the computer to re-burn tracks from different CDs is a valuable tool for her in that she doesn't have to swap CDs in the car 15 times just to hear the songs that she wants to hear (plus makes her less of a hazard on the roads because she's not busy swapping Cds every 5 minutes). just my personal opinion though, i wanna do with my computer what i want to when i want to and i don't need the government telling me what and when i can/can't do something. guess that's why i don't have XP on the box and why i won't get it. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gaim Question and mouse question
On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:03 pm, John Drouhard wrote: Anyway, you should just be able to highlight a link and then press the middle mouse button in the conversation window, and it should paste it by itself automagically. ok, i thougth this was a dead issue because i got it resolved, BUT. i got a new mouse yesterday, upgraded from a regular 2 button mouse to a Logitech mouse with the scroll wheel, and it's one of those optical mice, so no more ball in the bottom to get gunked up :) anyway, now i've got some more problems. first, i can't paste into a GAIM IM window with the mouse. i can use CTRL V to do it, but can't use the mouse buttons to do it. i can, however, use the right button to paste anything else in any window. so maybe i have something set wrong, but i can't quite put my finger on it. i've played with all the settings i can find, and i went in and told the mdk control center i was using a different mouse (it didn't change anything when i booted up the system). the second issue i'm having is that the scroll wheel doesn't scroll. i've done some google searches for an answer but all i can find says that it needs to be told the scroll wheel's movement is the 4th and 5th mouse buttons, but i can't find anything that says how to change that. but my best guess is that making the scroll wheel act like it's buttons 3, 4, and 5 will solve the scrolling problem. anyone know what i have to do to make it do this? the third issue is the mouse is kinda sketchy. now i do have 2 dogs and a cat, and they do shed quite a bit, and i've seen that when the optical part picks up a stray hair, the mouse will be a little sketchy. but there have been a few other times that it's been clean in there and it was a little sketchy. is there a fix for this? help greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SUBSCRIBE newbie
On Saturday 09 August 2003 11:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: DEAR SIR, YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH GROUP HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT SOME COUNTRIES HAVE AN AGE LIMIT ON SEXUAL CONTENT AND THAT THIS GROUP DOES NOT. PLEASE CHECK THE LEGAL RIGHTS YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AS THEY MAY NOT APPLY TO SOMEONE LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHERE MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH ARE DEEMED ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES. WELCOME TO THE MICROWAVE COOKING AND CATTLE FETISH MAILING LIST. SUBSCRIPTION PRICES ARE AVAILABLE AT $1000 USD FOR MORE SERIOUS USAGE. ouch lol and the subscription price isn't $1000 USD, it's $1399 USD per computer, remember all the SCO stuff going on? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Government trying to control our computers - OT but Important
http://stoppoliceware.org/ if this has been posted already, i apologize. i'm so behind with all the mail from the group, it's overwhelming at times. anyway, this is very important to everyone. i'm not having the government control what i do with my computer. guess it's time to buy a DVD drive before all this stuff goes into effect, not that my intent is to do anything illegial or do any copyright violations with it, but i want to be able to do what i want to do when i want to do it with my computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gaim Question
On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:03 pm, John Drouhard wrote: Do you think you could take the Reply to thing off, it's not necessary. sorry. it's done now. someone else pointed that out to me too. Anyway, you should just be able to highlight a link and then press the middle mouse button in the conversation window, and it should paste it by itself automagically. regular 2 button mouse. never thought to click both buttons because copy/paste worked everywhere else except in Gaim. Thanks Dennis (got your reply offlist because of my reply to thing) and thanks John. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GMO foods
On Monday 28 July 2003 12:19 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 Jul 2003 3:02 pm, Cornerstone Community Farm wrote: In general, we know far too little about them. Posted to the wrong list, perhaps? Anne at least it isn't more bashing and name calling about personal standpoints on political topics! lol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kmail question
quickie about kmail.when i click on a web page link that's been e-mailed to me, the page opens up in Konqueror. i can't find where to make it open up in mozilla web browser as the default. i've checked out all the options for kmail and i don't see a way to make it default to mozilla instead of konqueror. am i stuck with it this way and have to manually select mozilla every time or did i miss something? thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gtk-gnutella
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:49 am, Paul M wrote: Had no problems with gnutella, haven't worked out how the filters work on the download search yet though. i have a question...what is gnutella? :) But I do only use it to download songs that I've already got on vinyl tape - I'd never do otherwise, would I? ya know, 95% of my downloading has been the exact same thing (except i don't have any vinyl stuff), but i'm sure the RIAA doesn't give a damn. on the topic of the RIAA, is there an I Hate The RIAA mailing list on the net yet? :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mbr question
i know that in order for the mbr to be rewritten properly by linux in a dual boot system, the ms-win OS of choice must be installed before doing a linux install. but if i go and format out my ms-win OS and reinstall it (i'm using win98), will the mbr be rewritten and i won't be able to get back into linux? and if that does happen, how do i get the mbr re-written so i can access linux again? i've been looking for an answer to this but can't seem to find it, and win98 needs to be re-installed as i'm having massive problems with it. (and i wish i could make this a microsoft free computer, but currently i can't) Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WINE configuration
On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:14 pm, Marco Verheul wrote: Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa to run... you're not iffy about running kazaa with all the RIAA stuff going on? Can you recommend a tutorial to do a basic set up? yes, that'd be nice ammo to have in my arsenel as well :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RAM question
ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently using. i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, decent speed combo). so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free ram left. so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that. is that really what it's doing? the system hasn't been running excessively long, only about a day and a half. anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if this is really true or if something is wrong here. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
i just fired up ksim and it says i've got 588M physical ram free. but why is there a discrepancy between what it says when i check memory and in ksim? any ideas? On Friday 25 July 2003 02:05 am, crak600 wrote: ok, i was tooling around and decided to see how much ram i was currently using. i have 768mb installed and linux knows it (running a 950 processor, decent speed combo). so i look at i'm fluctuating between 5 and 20mb of free ram left. so i think this just can't be right, i mean, to use up ALL that ram when i all i hvae running is a media player, gaim, mozilla, and kmail. so i do a search and i read that it's normal for linux to do this because it's not actually using the ramm it's just keeping things stored there kinda like a hard disc for when it has to use itor something like that. is that really what it's doing? the system hasn't been running excessively long, only about a day and a half. anyway, this just boggled me and was wondering if anyone could inform me if this is really true or if something is wrong here. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAM question
On Thursday 24 July 2003 07:01 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 03:37 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 10:49, Sharrea wrote: Difference is likely one takes the cache into account while the other is reporting without cache. There is nothing to worry about. Linux stores a lot in cache but releases what is required when needed (like opening another app). This way Linux makes the best use of your ram. Someone else may have a better explanation but thats the basic gist of it. Sharrea Or as Civileme once aptly stated: Memory unused is memory wasted Everything is the way it should be:o) Or as we used to say Nothing is more useless than Altitude above you or Runway behind you thank you. i think i got it now. i was just kinda confused because i've looked at it before and it's never been that full. ksim shows one, the memory shows another, and yeah, i can understand that it's cache-ing it and not diong any harm. i think i got it. the system moves fast enough and smooth enough for what i've got in here, so i think i'm diong ok. thanks again for the explanations! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MS in trouble, sorry it's kinda OT
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,466180,00.html i don't think this has been posted yet, and i think it's definetly worth a read. i came across this last night and just laughed. it's pretty funny that the company that's working to stop piracy of their operating systems is now getting in trouble for something like this. how ironic! it's even better that InterTrust tried to give them a heads up about patents and microsoft forged ahead anyway. how funny would it be if they actually were ordered to stop sales of their XP and related software and the world had to turn elsewhere? (guess there'd be more NEW newbies like me hanging around!) sorry if it's OT posted to the regular list, but i'm not on the OT list. so if it's really OT, we just won't send out any replies to the list...sound fair? :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] best way to update apps in Linux?
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:15 am, Curt Tresenriter wrote: snip If you're using mdk 9.1 you can go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php to learn how to set up your sources and begin using urpmi. ZS, that link will walk you through very nicely. i just did updates from it last night, and i'm a super noobno programming experience and been using mdk9.1 for just over a month now. if i can do the updates from that site, anyone can :) while we're on the subject of updatesisn't there something you can set up to check a mirror site every so often to look for updates for you instead of doing it yourself? and i'm not talking about giong through MCC either, as i couldn't get updates to work from there in the first place. i'm not worried about a program randomly checking for updates and attempting to eat up my bandwidth, i'm on cable, so bandwidth isn't an issue for me and i could jsut have it do updates at 4am or something when i'm in bed. if anyone can help with this, i'd appreciate it. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] best way to update apps in Linux?
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:15 am, Curt Tresenriter wrote: I'm also pretty new to Linux and (so far) have found urpmi to work very nicely. It will go to whatever source that has the RPM you want and install it along with dependencies (usually). If you're using mdk 9.1 you can go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php to learn how to set up your sources and begin using urpmi. ok, question. i went to the site listed above last night and thought i did all the updates. today i went into mandrake control center software management mandrake update and then let it check for updates. it came back with a list of updates. does this mean that my updates were not done? maybe i missed a command when running through a terminal to do this, i'm not sure. any info on this greatly appreciated. thank you. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MS is at it again... Now Really OT!!!
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 04:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: No, I don't appreciate being treated with disdain by someone whom I have gone *out of my way* to be nice to, to help, to treat as a friend. You only get one chance with me, unfortunately, in that kind of situation. So, fuck off. ok, so now i have a questionwhere is the REAL newbie linux list? you know, the list where people try to help other people out when they can't figure something out on their own? personally, i don't mind things going onto a tangent and things other than linux (or whatever the list may be for) being brought up (for this list i would think anything computer related whether it be software, hardware, news, lawsuits, etc). but the name calling and all this other BS is just too much. i understand expressing your views on something, but telling someone to fuck off really makes me wonder if i'm on the right mailing list or not. having opinions and knowing how to express them is a wonderful thing to be able to do, but i believe that in kindergarten they start teaching you to not call people names or the like when you don't agree with them or their views. hey, i'm not perfect, i'm not on a soapbox, i'm not preaching, but this is turning into childish non-sense. grow up or go to aol or yahoo chat rooms to bicker with people and act like children. i'm on this list to try to learn something and get tips/pointers/help when i'm stuck on whatever it may be that i can't do on my ownnot to feel like i'm reading a transcription of my children arguing with each other. i have a feeling joe doesn't like me either based on his reply to what i posted about common sense when that kazaa thread started going way off topic. i don't think he knows what common sense is, as noted by the comments he just directed to Anne. joe, if you feel so inclined to give me the same response as you just gave to anne, do it offlist as to not clog everyone else's mailboxes up with utter garbage and non-sense. you won't hurt my feelings or make me bitter by doing so either. can we get back to linux and other computer related stuff now? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.
On Sunday 20 July 2003 01:26 am, Erylon Hines wrote: Interestingly, this case is the one always brought up when the subject of lawsuits (in the U.S.) raises its head, and the facts of this case are more interesting than just the anecdotal mention would suggest. Why the corporation was found to be culpable was because their coffee was served too hot. Why it was served so hot is the interesting part. More cups of coffee can be brewed from a pound of ground when the water is set to 180 degrees (F) than when set to 140 deg (F). Managers of the restaurant franchises actually complained that the coffee was being brewed too hot, because the cups would soften when the coffee was poured, and they were worried that their employees were being exposed to an unsafe condition. Documents showed that letters had been exchanged between local managers and upper management, and essentially, the upper managers had vetoed lowering the brew temps of the coffeee because it would effect the bottom line -- profits on the sale of coffee would be lower. When the customer was severely burned (badly enough to require skin grafts) and subsequently sued, the documents were discovered, and the jury found the upper management was at fault because they knew, and in fact had been warned on numerous occasions, that the restaurant's policy of brewing coffee at 180 degrees (F) was creating an unsafe condition. but this is why you don't put a cup of hot coffee between your legs in a car unless you want to risk getting burnt there. common sense there. i think it's pretty idiotic that people can sue others for their own stupidity. the problem with america is stupidity, stupid people keep breeding and doing stupid things. i'm not saying we should kill them all off, but let's remove all the warning labels from everything and let this problem take care of itself. but that's just my $0.02. but i can gaurentee if chainsaws didn't have a warning sticker on them telling the user not to touch the chain while the chainsaw is ON, i bet someone would sue when they lopped their fingers or hand off for touching it. if you don't have the common sense to say gee, this is a dumb/dangerous/stupid thing for me to do and could/would/will get me hurt/disfigured/killed, then you just deserve what you get. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sending mail to the list
On Saturday 19 July 2003 02:08 am, Eric Huff wrote: This is weird: i used to see that same error, and others did too, so i just made a filter to delete it. Since then though, i switched to sylpheed and only made filters as needed. Now i realize that i no longer get that error. I wonder if someone has a spam filter running that bounces mail back until (s)he or the filter determines it's not spam? Anyway, you oughtta be able to just send it to trash with a filter and be fine... i'll experiment with filters if it doesn't stop sending me those errors. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.
On Friday 18 July 2003 11:31 am, Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31800.html John it'll never happen. the jails would be completely overloaded, as if they aren't already. i'll admit, i use kazaa. they won't get everyone into jail, that's for certain. this is where our government falls short on a lot of issues..to stop something that's considered illegial, go to the SOURCE, just like the war on drugs, they go after a lot of the small time dealers and usersgo to the main sourcesif you eliminate the supply, no one can do anything, correct? if i remember everything correctly, it was Metallica that started this whole war on P2P file trading, because they wanted everyone to buy their albums to find out that they turned from a once excellent group to a bunch of washed up has beens who's music completely sucks (just my opinion). i won't even download their music anyway! :) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Friday 18 July 2003 10:38 pm, David E Fox wrote: That's probably the best way to do it. One thing I did was to unplug my existing CD-ROM and plug in the cables from it to the new drive (Toshiba SD 1312 combo). This at last worked -- one thing is that the connector 1/2 way along the IDE drive cable is the one you want to plug into the device. And the jumpers need to be set to master if you're in that configuration. The drive I got was defaulted that way so I didn't have to select the jumper. seriously? move it to the middle connector on the cable? i can do that! i've already swapped the internals from one case to another and managed to eventually get my 2nd hard drive installed and succeed where my friend failed (in getting the primary ide channel to work on the motherboard). from what i had been told, the master went on the end of the cable, not the middle, but i'll move it to the middle connection when i open up the box next (which could be in 20 minutes, could be in the morning). hey, can't hurt, considering there's only one thing on that cable anyway. thanks...i'll give it a shot! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Chris, Charlie, John, and G - CD-RW drive help
g, sorry, i didn't have your e-mail address and i had lost the other thread when i formatted / and reinstalled. kmail all got lost, even though i tried to back it up on a windows partition. oh well, back in business now! fstab dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/scd0 /mnt/scd0 auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /mnt/win_f vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb8 /mnt/win_g vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb9 swap swap defaults 0 0 lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/hdb1 label=windows2 table=/dev/hdb map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe it's a philips cd-rw drive, model CDD4801/81, it's manufacture date is listed as april 2000, that's physically on the drive, checked today. also found out today that it's meant as an OEM drive for a prebuilt, like a dell or gateway or whatever. of course, i'm not on a prebuilt, i've spent about as much as i would've on a prebuilt and got something that'd kick a prebuilt's you know what (well, once i get the soundblaster LIVE 5.1 card my friend is sending me, freebies are great!) the major issuesi can load a music CD in, go to KsCD and play it and have full control over it. my guess would be that's because the sound is outputting straight to the sound card (because i remembered to hook the cable up for that) and there's minimal control that needs to be done from the user end at that point, but that's just a guess. a CD burn was attempted, but it aborted on track 4 of 13. it could be a bad track, not everything was fully written, but it did not complete and the disc reads as if there's nothing on it. upon loading a data CD though, when i try to access it either with the icon on the desktop or through kwikdisc, the computer goes into kernal panic and locks up. i have not tried again through a command line since i formatted and reinstalled, but it was doing the same thing when i was trying before (and i can't remember the exact commands i was using, sorry). cdrecord --scanbus Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'IDE-CD ' 'R/RW 8x4x32 ' 'G1.9' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * (i'm starting to remember how to do some things w/out asking!) now, when i open a terminal and run cd /mnt dir i get 'cdrom floppy scd0 win_c win_c2 win_d win_e win_f win_g' throw mdk9.1 install disc 3 into the drive cd cdrom dir all i get is [EMAIL PROTECTED] cdrom]$ so then i try cd scd0 and it tells me there's no such file or directory. so i 'cd /mnt' and 'dir' again, then 'cd scd0' followed by 'dir' and all i get is [EMAIL PROTECTED] scd0]$ THENi noticed this stuff while wandering around the directories /dev/cdroms there's a hard disc icon named 'cdrom0'. right click properties and it says points to ../scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd but that would point it towards the primary ide channel, not the secondary, and the cd drive is on the secondary channel..am i right saying it's trying to point to the primary ide channel? that's a random stab in the dark for me, but that's a guess. at least i'm trying to think! in my bios, Ultra DMA mode is disabled for the cd-rw drive. i don't know if my cd-rw drive supports UDMA, i have choices from 0-4 and disabled. that's another guess for me...might be worthless info, i dunno. ok, i think i've covered all basesi think...if there's more info needed, lemme
[newbie] sending mail to the list
do i not have something set right or is there something wrong with the server? every time i send mail to the list i get a reply with 'NDN' before the subject line. it's returned from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the body contains On Saturday 19 July 2003 12:42 am, you wrote: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: linux-mandrake newbie,emc (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name has been entered correctly.) but my messages are getting through to the list. since formatting / and re-installing last night, i'm wondering if maybe i didn't set something up right in kmail or if there is just a server problem. thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Chris, Charlie, John, and G - CD-RW drive help
oh, and to add. was posted under the cd drive refuses to work threadi was suggested to use the middle connection on the cable instead of the connection on the end for the cd drive. i've got nothing to lose by swapping it, and there's nothing else on that cable anyway. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] drive partitions and what they mean
I'm sorry to ask this again, because i asked something along the same lines last week. someone even gave me a link for it, BUTmy hard drive was formatted out and everything is GONE. here's the setup 2 hard drives 20GB partitioned to 5gb for windows and 15gb for anything else 100gb drive unpartitioned and fresh took FOREVER to get the 100gb drive installed, but it's finally up and running. i had formatted out linux and ended up doing a re- install of windows 98. so to get to the questions i have... i need a lnk explaining all the linux partitions or someone to tell me what they are. i know one of the partitions is used for backing up the OS, and i'd like to store that on a separate hard drive. i want to make sure i put that partition separate in case ANYTHING. i've got 15gb to run with on my smaller hard drive. i could dedicate it all to linux if need be. the 100gb drive is a little faster than the 20gb drive. 100gb drive has 8mb buffer, 20gb drive has 4mb buffer, both are 7200rpm and 8.9ms seek time. both are on the primary IDE channel, 20gb is master, 100gb is slave. as i already said, i'm sorry to ask the same questions over again, but i've lost everything, and i really don't know how to do a search for previously asked questions. also the intended use of my computer.(because i'm sure this helps to know) music (constantly) video (getting into editing and burning VCDs) some gaming school work (semester starts Aug 25...been 7 years and i can't wait to get back!) web surfing i plan to share music and video between linux and windows. i'm actually going to partition my 100gb hard drive later on to separate them, or should i do this before installing mandrake 9.1 again? meaning, is it easier to have them partitioned prior to installation than it is to get new partitions working in linux? (btw, diskdrake is MUCH easier to use than fdisk) on a windows related noteafter using linux for only a week and then going back to windows, i find myself utterly lost in windows. i'm addicted. running multiple desktops is REAL nice, and i started to really prefer mozilla over internet explorer. thanks to all! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
ok, since my new ram showed up this morning (system is now up to 768MB), i decided it was time to install the ram and the hard drive. opened up the computer to check where everything was on the ribbons and see where i'm going to plug in the hard drive. the current hard drive and CDRW are on the same ribbon (havn't checked to see which is slave and which is master yet). from the posts others have left about data transferring from one drive to the next and bottlenecking, i figure the best way to set this up is to put the new hard drive as a slave to the floppy drive. well, the connector on the ribbon for the floppy drive isn't the right size for the new hard drive, and the ribbon the CDRW and other hard drive are on only has 2 connections. so i have to go out and buy a new ribbon. figures! my only other possibility is to use the 3rd IDE connection on the motherboard, BUT, the motherboard wasn't new when i got it. bought it from a friend who assembled the computer for me. he tried to put the floppy, hard drive, and cdrw drive each on their own ribbon, but said the 3rd ribbon port on the motherboard wouldn't work. he couldn't figure out why. i can try to use it, but he took his time putting the computer together and couldn't get it to work no matter what he tried. i'll have to wait 3 more weeks til he gets back from his honeymoon to get into detail with him on everything he tried. i've decided the best way to set everything up is to leave linux where it is on the 20GB drive. the drive was partitioned for me into 5 and 15gb sections. i partitioned out 5gb for mandrake 9.1, there's still 10GB left on that partition. when i put the 100gb drive in, i'm going to leave it all open for sharing between win and linux, and i'm still able to expand to give linux 15GB to run on the other drive, and in the future if for some reason i was doing things exclusively in linux that i needed to keep separate from windows (video editing most likely) i can partition off more spaec on the 100gb drive for that. any comments? guess it's a good thing i started this thread, as there've been multiple questions asked on the same subject. thanks for all the input from everyone so far! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
Okproblems. when my friend built the computer, he said teh primary IDE connector on the motherboard was bad. well, it's not. turned out he had been trying to hook up a bad hard drive to it. so since then, everything has been running on the 2nd IDE port. the CDRW drive is the master, the hard drive is the slave. I go to put in the new hard drive today. Linux recognizes my new hard drive, windows does not, at least i don't know how to make it recognize it. now, i had tried to swap the IDE connection to put the CD and hard drive on the primary and the new hard drive on the secondary, and the newer larger drive will be used for non-system related stuff. well, if i swap them over, the computer goes to boot up, it starts to boot linux (i screwed up a setting somewhere, linux boots every time i fire the computer up, i have to exit linux to get back to windows, dual boot option doesn't come up on start up). anyway, after it starts to boot up linux, it tells me it can't find hdd7 (one of it's partitions) and just sits there and stares at me with the caps lock and scroll lock lights flashing. well, i wanna solve this problem... i've got the hardware reconfigured so i can get on (obvoiusly). what i want to do is just format the old hard drive, completly wipe it out, shut down the computer, hook everything back up the way it needs to be, configure the bios, and install my stuff from there. in doing that, will windows recognize that i have 2 hard drives right off the bat? mind you, my current 20gb drive has 3 partitions, 2 for windows and then the linux partitions. i'm not concerned with a loss of data, as any programs i need i have on cd to re-install with. so yeah, you can say i'm looking for the EASY WAY OUT, but that's what i need at this point or i'm gonna have to get frustrated again, and believe me, i'm sick of being frustrated :) i know i can do formatting of drives from disk drake, and i figure i can go in with the boot floppy i have and just format everything out from there. i'm just really lost, i'm making mistakes, and need to get everything running smoothly. i sure do ask a lot of questions...but that's how we learn i guess! thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
Ok, here's the situation. my new 100GB hard drive showed up today. i need to put it into the computer and get everything set up. here's the way i plan to set up. 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) i plan to use 2 hard drives, as neither of them is slow or old, only difference between them is the 20GB has a 4MB buffer and the 100GB has a 8MB buffer. both 7200rpm. now, here's where i need help.. which drive would i make the primary drive? my thought is that i'd make the 100GB drive the primary drive, as the computer would have to access linux before windows to give me the dual boot option, correct? Secondly...does the drive's position on the ribbon matter? i'm running 2 things on that ribbon currently, the 20GB drive and my CDRW drive. this is only the first computer i've owned that i've actually torn apart and put back together hardware wise, once while trouble shooting for a defective sound card, the other time doing a case swap. so i'm not all that familiar with hooking up new hardware. i know if i make the 100GB drive the primary, i have to switch the jumper on the 20GB drive to make it the secondary. and a final question.i'm running an ASUS KV7-RM motherboard that has all the bios updates done to it, so that's a plus, but will i have to enter the bios settings once i plug the new drive in? as far as how i'm going to work with linuxi havn't decided if i'm giong to do a fresh install and wipe out the old install or if i'm going to try to move the current install to the new drive (someone already gave me a link that explains how to do that). that's something i'll decide for myself once i get to that point. thanks in advance for any help! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Saturday 21 June 2003 10:28 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: 20GB hard drive i currently have - all for windows 100GB hard drive - 80GB for mandrake, 20GB for windows (that's my current plan, might go 60 linux 40 windows) That sounds a little excessive to me. Good call, now that you mentioned it. i do plan on sharing info between windows and linux, just don't plan on using windows much at all. wanted to leave space for installing new programs to linux, but yeah, i'm probably leaving too much space for it, as i only have 5GB space for windows and windows based programs to run in and i have 3GB free on that partition still. 80Gb for Mandrake? I wouldn't, and my space needs a little extra room. But maybe 20Gb, if you need the temp space for video or sound editing. Do plan on doing video editing. i'll get to that in a minute... You never told us much about how you use your computer, so its hard to help too specifically. running win98se and mandrake 9.1. planned use for the computer. school work music e-mail surfing video downloading and editing occasional gaming (not sure if that'll be done in linux or windows) we'll see what happens here. thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hard drive...how?
On Sunday 22 June 2003 01:28 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Mike: You sound a bit confused about drive terminology. definetly :) Your board has two IDE slots (or channels). One is the primary, the other is the secondary. Each channel can handle both a master and slave drive. The drive jumpers determine whether a drive is to be the master or slave, but have nothing to do whether it is on the primary or secondary channel. It sounds as if your current setup has both drives on the primary channel with the HD as master and the CDRW as slave. My advice would be to leave the old HD as the primary master. Why confuse Windows more than it already is? i'm going to have to open the box up to be fully sure what is connected where. i remember there's 3 slots on my motherboard, but only 2 are being used. i believe there was a problem with the 3rd slot. You could install the new drive on the secondary channel and leave it jumpered as master; this arrangement is least apt to confuse Windows. However, my choice is to install the new drive on the primary channel as slave, and move the CDRW to the secondary channel as master. i'll try both arrangements and see what works. Check your BIOS settings that all of the IDE drives are set to Auto Detect (or whatever) -- and also that the secondary channel has not been turned off. I'll leave it to others to discuss partitioning schemes (it's been an active topic lately), but remember that you don't have to partition the whole damn 100 GB now. True, because from what i've seen, it's easy to partition off a section for linux, but a bit more work to give it back to windows. i can always add more for linux later on. kinda jumping the gun i guess. it's going to be an interesting week, but only the hard drive is going to be a struggle to set up. the new moniter is supposed to be here thursday (plug and play) and more ram (to boost the system to 768MB). those 2 are easy, i can handle those no problem. for now i guess i'll do the smart thingjust get the 100GB drive in and get it working properly, then worry about moving linux and partitioning later. hey, i got a new toy and i wanna play.isn't that just human nature? :) thanks! -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Insert Name Here
On Thursday 19 June 2003 11:18 am, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:20:54 -0400 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: winning the special olympics...when it's all over, you're still retarded. sorry to butt in, but that is dark, dark humour. have to admit, I laughed tho! I'm going straight to hell, thanks a lot ;) yeah, it's really dark humor, but it's the damn truth! i mean, really, online arguementsthat just kind of sums it up as to how meaningful they are...and to anyone that takes offense to that reference, think twice before arguing back! lol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] what do these different things mean? KDE, Gnome, etc
Ok, i have some questions about a few things, just stuff i don't understand. when i go to reboot, what are the differences between KDE GNOME ICE WM Failsafe Default i would guess that failsafe would be kind of like safe mode in windows, am i right? i'm also kind of guessing that default would be the most basic way to enter linux, with no preferences set in the system or anything else, right? And yet MORE questions (only reason i'm asking so many in this e-mail is because they all seem to be related to each other) When booting up the computer and i get to the dual boot option, among the choices is linux and linux-nonfb. what's the difference there? And one more question...what is ROOT and what is it used for? when would i ever have to use it and how do i get into ROOT? ROOT is used for adding programs or making changes, right? i'm searching for the answers online as well, but hoping someone can give me some good definitions of these things, either on-list or off-list, doesn't matter. Thanks a bunch! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. Cust serv said This drive's proven to be very solid... wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor drives. I went with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. has anyone heard anything bad about the WD drives? my current one was new when installed and has been in the computer for 2-3 months with no problems so far. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] recognizing/testing hardware problems?
ok, in windows you can right click on my computer and it gives you hardware profiles and you can see if everything is working correctly. 1st questionwhere do you do that in mandrake 9.1? i think i saw it before but can't seem to find it now. 2nd questioncan you test your hardware for problems? reason i ask is i've had some minor problems with my video card before. when the computer would go into power save mode and turn the moniter off, half the time the moniter wouldn't come back on, it would give me an error (can't remember what it was). i got around that problem by turning that feature off and just manually turned the moniter off. well, earlier today, my moniter got REAL fuzzy, as in, could barely read the screen. i logged out of linux and jumped over to windows, same thing. then turned the comp off, restarted it, same thing again in linux and in windows. then i switched moniters and the problem is gone. yes, that would generally mean that it's the moniter that is bad, but it's a brand new moniter, not even 2 weeks old. anyway, just wondering if i can test the vid card while it's in the computer just to be certain it's the moniter and not the video card. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] recognizing/testing hardware problems?
checked it in the control center, ran test, no problems. i already took the faulty moniter back. it was a KDS 16 viewable, flat screen. already went and ordered a Samsung 18 viewable (19 overall) to replace it with, only cost $40 more, and that was because of shipping ($165 total). that'll be nice once i get it next week, as i'm back on my old Sony moniter with only 13.9 viewable. thanks for the help! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] recognizing/testing hardware problems?
On Thursday 19 June 2003 10:32 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:03:12 -0400 Crak600 - Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Samsung 955? that's what I got, love it! no, 950B. don't know how much difference there is between the 2. ordered from Techonweb, where geeks shop or something like that. they told me over the phone it's not a TRUE flat screen, there is slight curvature on the edges. i'll see how much i like it when i get it, they said about 5 days shipping time. hopefully it's good, because at $41 to ship it, i don't want to have to return it! i figure with the name brand, it's gonna be good. a lot of generic stuff is good as well, it just all depends on what it is. when i ordered generic ram for my laptop (which is now dead) a year and a half ago, the generic ram turned out to be Samsung ram. hopefully the new moniter beats out the one i just returned, and with the even larger screen, i'm sure i'll be happy :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Noatun Multimedia Player won't open
subject says it. Kaboodle will, but Noatun won't. don't know why either. i'm only on day 5 of running linux...HELP! :) www.basiclinux.net doesn't start til july from the e-mail i was sent earlier pointing me to it (and it looks like a great idea for me to take it). so until i can get some formal education here...HELP! :) thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noatun Multimedia Player won't open
ok, so i rebooted, and when i get back into KDE (which i was in before i rebooted) Noatun fires right up. i closed it out, switched to another desktop (i LOVE having 4 desktops to work with), opened it back up, and now it's working flawlessly. any clues? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......
On 17 Jun 2003 at 1:50, FemmeFatale wrote: agreed... i suspect i hold the record for most reinstalls in one day fastest OS crasher in the western hemisphere...lol... and all i do is surf, email, IM um... fubar the system as much as possible. :D prepare to lose that title as i'm completely clueless when it comes to any form of programmingi know how to install programs in windows and that's about it! i didn't have mandrake installed on the computer for more than an hour (and was only actually IN mandrake for maybe 20 minutes) and i got it all screwed up! i'm learningand now that i got AIM up, i don't need to go back to windows as much :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 17 Jun 2003 at 7:36, g wrote: i am curious, you never mentioned, did you ever run md5 on 1st dl's. no, never ran MD5. i looked into the program and got that uhhh feeling, as in one of those...what do i do with THAT?! i think most of the origonal problems were just user error though. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DirectX or equivalant?
my friend told me that he wasn't able to get games running in linux because linux doesn't support directX (he had just scratched the surface on this subject though). while i don't play games a lot, occasionally me and him will link up over cable and play multiplayer games. so the question iscan directX be used in linux or is there an equivalent to it that i can run all my windows based games off of? or is there a way to patch it in? i havn't even attempted to install any of my games yet, but it'd be nice to be able to and then point him in the right direction as well. btw, he's only dependant on winblows anymore because of gaming. that's the only thing holding him back from making a perminant switch to mandrake. Thanks for any info. and now that i am sending this out, i'm about to switch back to mandrake from winblows and start searching the links that you guys (and gals) gave me for programs and i'll probably run across a fix for this...that's just my luck...ask a question then immediately find the answer on my own! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 17 Jun 2003 at 19:53, g wrote:
should have asked what to do with it. we would have even told you
'where to stick it'.
Well, honestly, what happened the first few times was i was just
burning everything as a straight data Cd like i would for a windows
program. that caused me 2 days of problems. to go along with that,
i did move the iso images around on my hard drive and i'm sure that
didn't help matters, winblows probably re-arranged some things on
it's own for me. thanks mr gates.
how many hours have you spent with it??? { do i hear a snicker }
how many hours have i spent with what? trying to get the Cds
working right and a good install or how many hours have i spent
playing around with mandrake? the installi won't even attempt to
count. there were problems. as far as playing with mandrake
itself...i've been splitting my time between windows and mandrake.
it's a slow transition for me, and i still have no clue how to set up the
mail stuff (see another e-mail i sent out for details).
in essence, had you run md5 first thing after download,
you would have found problem at front end.
i, and others, are at fault for not insisting that you run md5
before making further attempt of 'feeding you'. lol w/bwg
i'd almost be willing to put money on the problem being the way i
was burning the CDs. hands down. although next time i will do the
checksum program and make sure everything is good before i go
through hell again.
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Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......
On 17 Jun 2003 at 15:41, FemmeFatale wrote: *giggles* let the battle begin! he who can fook his comp up as much as possible wins! now the fun part is unfooking w/out reinstalling... if the rules involve that (fixing w/out re-installing) then you win. i'm not going to compete lol Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Insert Name Here
so after the informal introduction (and me getting utterly ticked off doing an install). Hi. I'm Mike, and i'm a new linux user. HI MIKE I'd tell you what i do for a living, but i really don't do anything. lost my job in January to a back injury and havn't worked since. After getting a nice tax return (EIC really pays out when you have children), i got a good friend of mine to build me a PC to replace my outdated Vaio laptop, and upgraded to cable all at the same time. When all you can do is sit at home all day and take care of 2 kids, it's nice to have a decent computer and a screaming fast connection. anyway not being a lazy bum forever. I'm enrolled at Bloomsburg University (which is in central PA) for the fall semester. finally getting back in school after 4 years in the military and a few years supporting a family. can't wait! was told about linux by my friend that built up my computer, and decided to finally check it out, as it was either try linux or get him to hack me a copy of XP. i decided to take the legal approach to an OS, and i'm sick of using win98se. so just a little FYI for everyone so you know who you're dealing with! (by the way, all the angry marine aggression is out of my system after being out for 2 years...wellMAYBE!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer
On 16 Jun 2003 at 13:25, g wrote: JoeHill wrote: IIRC, from my Windows days, ISOs show up as archives (the little stack of books icon), I think that is the confusion. It's not really a RAR archive, it's just that windows is stupid and tells you what it *thinks* it is... ms windows is 'stupid'. yet, in w98se, a '.iso' file shows as a wavy flag on a single page and of type 'iso file'. i am still at wonder as to where '.rar' is coming from. i told it to download NOT as an .rar file and it still downloaded that way anyway. it's a little stack of books, not a wavy flag on a single page. will physically take computer apart in a little bit here and get the model number of the CD drive. and will physically take it apart by removing the appropriate screws, not by getting a hammer :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
ok, well, i havn't actually done the install yet. but i did do a fresh download of all 3 CDs last night. i re-burned CD one by telling it to create a CD from an ISO image. then went to install again and it actually went into the install! but i restarted the computer once i realized that it was going to work. why? because i wanted to re- burn CD 2 and 3 so i can get everything installed at once instead of having to go back in and do it later. so once i'm done burning cd2 and 3, i'll be doing a full install (as long as the downloaded files are good). so about an hour before i go back into the install process. it's 1pm EST, so if there's anything i need to know before doing the install, i guess i've got about an hour to know. i do want to say thank you to everyone that has given me help and suggestions since i first posted yesterday and for putting up with my ranting and frustration. thanks again! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - iit's working...almost
On 16 Jun 2003 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't keep it to yourself, what did you do to get it going? Paul M. sorry. simple...fresh download on all 3 ISO images, didn't move them around in my hard drive, which i was guilty of diong before to make space, using a partitioned 20GB hard drive and barely have any room left on it. i did order a 100GB hard drive last week to add to my system, so space will no longer be a problem. and i do have enough space on the current hard drive to install linux. went into my CD maker and simply clicked on the create CD from ISO image. done. i could've possibly downloaded a bad or incomplete ISO image before (which i could still possibly have, i havn't done the install yet), or i could've moved something around in the hard drive and ended up losing a minute packet of info in a move. i'd say chalk it up to user error. CD 3 is halfway done burning...will be installing in about 20 minutes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie] WELCOME TO LINUX!
installed! i'm back on windows right now, because i did not have a whole lot of free space on my hard drive and i need to clear up space now. If i clear out a bunch of my hard drive, can i go and re- install linux again to take advantage of more space? there were a few options i wasn't able to install because of lack of space. i'll scan disk my drives and defrag before i re-install. need to figure out all the stuff i gotta put in for accessing my mail, or see if i can access pegasus from linux (what i'm currently using because i HATE ms outlook and refused to use it). already tested out the media player, as i'm always listening to music on the computer, so that's a big deal for me. and this is what's going to happen when the wife gets home from work. HONEY! I GOT MANDRAKE 9.1 INSTALLED! FINALLY! good! are you giong to shut up and stop bitching about it now?! she already has a feeling she's never going to see me again since i've been working on installing the new OSnow she'll have confirmation on that! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] uh oh, having problems, need help
i screwed something up, not sure what. i can't get into linux, and my 14GB space on my one partition is knocked down to 10GB...4GB set aside for linux...i can't access it, i need to wipe it clean and re- install linux again. can't figure out how to get to it. need help. thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] uh oh, having problems, need help
ok, my current hard drive is a 20GB hard drive. it was partitioned for me (by my friend who built my computer) into a 5gb and 15gb partition. when i first installed mandrake, it only gave me slightly over 1gb of free space on my 15GB partitoin to install with. after seeing mandrake was working, i exited back to windows, deleted some things off the 15gb partition, then went to re-install linux to give it more space to run (was going to give it a good 4-5GB of space), and that's when the problems started. i really did a number on this one. i gave it more space when it came to the partitioning part, and told it to leave 10GB on the windows partition. now i can't use the linux option when i get to the boot choices screen, only linux-nonfb works. so where do i go from here to fix all this and give mandrake a dedicated 5GB to operate out of? thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] uh oh, having problems, need help
5GB is a temp just for now. i'm trying to get this up and running and get a little familiar with it until i get my 100GB hard drive. once i get the 100GB drive, the 20GB drive i currently have will be used for Windows, the 100GB will be partitioned for linux (and it's a FAST drive too...100GB WD 7200rpm with 8mb buffer). i just defragged and scan disked my entire 20gb drive 2 days ago. it's clean. but i do need to know how to wipe this completely off the hard drive so when i do get the 100gb drive, i can remove linux in it's entirety from my 20GB drive. i'm not the only computer user in the house, so i do need to keep windows on the computer. what in linux will let me remove it completely from the hard drive and start fresh? diskdrake? i didn't install everything out of all the options i had, but i was trying to give some more room for mandrake to run in. i figured i could go back later and mess with it more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......
went in and expert installed to re-partition the drive and fix my mistakes. thanks Mike for the offlist info to get me going. i think it's going to be a slow process from here just in getting used to the new OS. all i've ever known is windows, and the first few years i ever touched a computer it was a Mac, so i never even played with DOS. Where can i go to find possibly archived QA stuff and maybe even listings of programs that i can and can't use. i primarily use the computer for music, surfing, e-mail, AIM, and now starting to get into burning video to VCD for DVD player playback. About the mail programs availible, i'm using pegasus mail on winblows, err, sorry, windows, and it has features such as checking my pop3 server how ever often i want it to (i have it set at every 30 seconds) for new mail. do the linux based mail programs offer that? anyway, wherever i can be aimed at to start finding this stuff and experimenting on my own...if anyone can point me that way...would be a great help. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installed...part 2..what can i do now......
eric, paul, thanks. stuff for me to check out tomorrow as it's getting close to bed time. Gaim...what is that? does it handle instant messaging and that stuff? now this is where it'll all get interesting. as long as i can surf the way i want, access my mail, play music, and chati don't need to swap back over to windows for very much. we'll see how much damage i can do from here :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bad Installation Cd
Ok, i'm completely new to linux, but i'm so sick of windows that i NEED something new and always have plenty of time to kill learning something new, so i decided to try my hand at linux. i'm currently set up with an Asus K7V-RM, AMD 950, 20GB WD hard drive(waiting on a WD 100GB drive to add to system), 320MB ram (waiting on a 512mb stick to bump up to 768mb), soundblaster 16PCI, can't remember my vid card, and philllips CDRW drive. now onto the problem.. i have downloaded CD1 of mandrake 9.1 3 different times (which takes me 3 hours on cable, i'm getting sick of downloading it) and every time i go to install, when it starts reading off the CD it tells me i don't have an installation disk. i had to make a boot floppy disk, even though i went into the bios and set the computer to boot off the CD first, it still won't. anyway...what's wrong with my CD? i don't want to download this thing again to have the same result. any help appreciated so i can move on and then have to ask MORE questions :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Installation Cd
On 15 Jun 2003 at 13:07, JoeHill wrote: I had the same problem with an older machine. Couple of things you can try: Burn the CD at a lower speed. I have been told that CDs burned at higher speeds can be unreadable under certain circumstances. I burned the CD at 4x, and i think my only other option is to burn it at 2x on my burner. i can try that though and see if it works. If you cannot get it to recognize the CD after that, you can do what I did, and yes it will take awhile, but create a boot floppy for a network install, and install the whole shebang off the net. Ok, i'll be getting back to you on that if i can't get the CD to do it. Bravo on trying the boot floppy though, did you get that from the Mandrake site? Nope, read the Installation file on the CD and followed the instructions. there's a program in there to make a boot floppy while in windows. Thanks for the help. i'll try to re-write the Cd again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Installation Cd - Feel like an Idiot Now
On 15 Jun 2003 at 14:45, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:32:21 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Oh, and don't feel like an idiot, all of us went through this at some point, except maybe Stephen Kuhn and Tom Brinkman, who were born with ubergeek in them... -- well, it's just one of those things where the solution to the problem is so simple, you just sit there and ask yourself...why did i miss that?! everyone does it! i attached my problem solver to the wall and took care of everything...(the piece of paper with a circle in the middle..has instructions in the circle that say place on firm surface, bang head here) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bad Installation Cd - STILL
ok, i did download an ISO image for all 3 CDs. i also made sure i burned the CD in ISO, yet it STILL tells me i don't have an install disc. then i get a message that says which driver should i try to gain SCSI access? nothing on my computer is SCSI, it's all EIDE. i'm so lost, i'm so confused, i'm almost ready to give up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Bad Installation Cd - STILL
On 15 Jun 2003 at 15:34, JoeHill wrote: If I am not mistaken, Linux sees all cdrw as SCSI, nothing to worry about there. I wonder if it is just not recognizing your Philips drive...have you checked the Hardware Compatibility List? Does it give you a list of drivers to choose from? If so, look for yours, if you don't see it there may be a generic driver that will at least get you going. Don't give up, it's too late for that, we won't let you. If all else fails, there's the network install, then we get the system up and running and make sure your cdrw will work with Linux. Don't be afraid of the network install, it takes a lot longer, but hey, what's the rush on a lazy Sunday afternoon? i'm going to check the list, although i'm not sure of the model number of my drive...and since i'm having so many problems with the CDs, can someone start walking me through doing a network install please? i'm on cable, so yeah, it'll take longer than a CD install, but won't take absolutely FOREVER. if anyone else has a clue as to what i'm doing wrong burning these CDs, please help! thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install - i'm about to take a sledgehammer to my computer
Yeah, i've been frustrated. i've got one computer (the PC) that for some reason i can't get linux to load on, and my laptop is DOA for an unknown reason (has something to do with an accidental drop a while back, but it worked afterwards). I've been extremely frustrated with both all day, as i've been tearing apart the laptop and re- assembling it and jumping back to the PC to try to see what i can do linux wise with it. it's been real difficult, and i'm getting so ticked off because the instructions sound SO simple but it's just completely eluding me. kinda like one of those moments when you're walking through your house in the dark in the middle of the night looking for the bathroom and you're half awake and you can't seem to find the light switch...i think we've all been there. ok, well, i'm calm now and ready to try at this again if anyone is willing to help me at this point.. if you would, please answer a couple of questions; 1 - where are you trying to download iso's from? From the linux-mandrake site 2 - what are names of iso's you are trying to download? the ones from the linux-mandrake site.'Mandrake91-cd1- inst.i586.iso' as well as CDs 2 and 3. 3 - what version of ms windows are you using? win98se 4 - what is model of cd burner? It's a phillips, that's about all i know. i can't find a listing of the model number. i'm prolly going to have to open up the computer to get that part. can't find anything in windows itself to tell me what the model number of the cd drive is. i'll get to that and get back to you with that info.. 5 - what cd burner prog are you using? NTI CD Maker 2000 Plus.OEM version for my CD drive 6 - are you using any type of firewall with ms? no firewalls 7 - who told you what His last name is? ;) I plead the 5th. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
