[newbie] Updating with RPM drake
My installation is straight forward. Aside from updates from the mirror no other software has been installed or modified. For a few months I did not touched my Mandrake box. Now when I attempt to use RPM drake for updates I get messages with the error that the packages have bad signatures. Such as: The following package have bad signatures: kdebase+common_3.2.3._134.8.101mdk i586 rpm: missing signature (Couldn't open file} other packages have the same note that the signature was missing and the file couldn't be opened. Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating with RPM drake
Owen wrote: My installation is straight forward. Aside from updates from the mirror no other software has been installed or modified. For a few months I did not touched my Mandrake box. Now when I attempt to use RPM drake for updates I get messages with the error that the packages have bad signatures. Such as: The following package have bad signatures: kdebase+common_3.2.3._134.8.101mdk i586 rpm: missing signature (Couldn't open file} other packages have the same note that the signature was missing and the file couldn't be opened. Any suggestions? Download the new signitures from the mirror site, if you trust it, and install them. (rpm --import PUBKEY) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating your Free Mandrakelinux
http://www.zarb.org/~trem/easyurpmi/ Willl this site update my Linux? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating your Free Mandrakelinux
What's a good way of updating your free version of Mandrake? I've only thought of two: - using a higher version of a Mandrake CD - updating through updating programs - others? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating your Free Mandrakelinux
%^$#*^$ing gmail users :p On Saturday 26 March 2005 08:55 am, Robert Yu wrote: What's a good way of updating your free version of Mandrake? I've only thought of two: - using a higher version of a Mandrake CD - updating through updating programs - others? My favorite way is to change my urpmi sources to a mirror of the next version and do 'urpmi --auto-select' Usually there are a few configuration niggles to work out, but they are usually documented on the release notes or in the ML archives. I've gone from 9.2 = 10.0 = 10.1 and now LE2005 rc2 with that method. I just updated 2 10.1 machines to rc2 using this method and it went very well. I you want to use the iso's, you can choose upgrade too. Some people swear by the clean install though. Good Luck -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 05 November 2004 09:51 am, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. Stew, this bug exists in Cooker too. I reported it as bug #12129, so if you fix it in 10.0, please fix it in 10.1 and cooker also? I've just updated Webmin on my 9.2 installation and am having the same problem. Will there be a fix for that? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Graham Watkins wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: Stew, this bug exists in Cooker too. I reported it as bug #12129, so if you fix it in 10.0, please fix it in 10.1 and cooker also? I've just updated Webmin on my 9.2 installation and am having the same problem. Will there be a fix for that? Yes, fixed across the board (except cooker which is frozen). In secteam testing should be released mid-week next week, provided I didn't break something else in the process. Tested CS2.1, 9.2, 10.0, 10.1 myself and did not have the reported issue with the cron module (I also noted a problem with the backup module before the fix). -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 01:51, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. FYI: It is always best to upgrade/update Webmin THROUGH Webmin - sometimes doing it outside (via RPM or what have you) can break modules (of which cron is); therefore, when you want to update try to do so whilst in Webmin (along with modules); you'll find that the experience is slight more, er, happy? -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- To be excellent when engaged in administration is to be like the North Star. As it remains in its one position, all the other stars surround it. -- Confucius Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Stephen [ISO-8859-1] Kühn wrote: FYI: It is always best to upgrade/update Webmin THROUGH Webmin - sometimes doing it outside (via RPM or what have you) can break modules (of which cron is); therefore, when you want to update try to do so whilst in Webmin (along with modules); you'll find that the experience is slight more, er, happy? Unless you hope to keep your rpm database in sync with the installed software. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Sat, 2004-11-06 at 02:37, Stew Benedict wrote: On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Stephen [ISO-8859-1] Khn wrote: FYI: It is always best to upgrade/update Webmin THROUGH Webmin - sometimes doing it outside (via RPM or what have you) can break modules (of which cron is); therefore, when you want to update try to do so whilst in Webmin (along with modules); you'll find that the experience is slight more, er, happy? Unless you hope to keep your rpm database in sync with the installed software. Webmin is standalone from the entire RPM system structure - bear in mind that it is autonomous to your distro - it is a tool that is able to adminster almost any *nix system - and can be kept from the local system's package database. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Today is the first day of the rest of the mess. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Friday 05 Nov 2004 14:51, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. Thanks for that. Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 Linux Kernal 2.6.3-7mdk GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Friday 05 November 2004 09:51 am, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. Stew, this bug exists in Cooker too. I reported it as bug #12129, so if you fix it in 10.0, please fix it in 10.1 and cooker also? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Stephen [ISO-8859-1] Kühn wrote: Webmin is standalone from the entire RPM system structure - bear in mind that it is autonomous to your distro - it is a tool that is able to adminster almost any *nix system - and can be kept from the local system's package database. What? It's not independent of the rpm database if it was installed via rpm originally. -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Webmin.
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 05 November 2004 09:51 am, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Simon Utley wrote: When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. Confirmed. Will investigate/reissue if I can fix it. Stew, this bug exists in Cooker too. I reported it as bug #12129, so if you fix it in 10.0, please fix it in 10.1 and cooker also? OK. Cooker I would hope would go to a newer version, but I think it's orphaned with gc's departure. 10.0 issue is definitely related to the last tmpfile fix. You guys are making my day :) -- Stew Benedict Mandrakesoft --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating Webmin.
When I install the webmin update (webmin-1.121-4.2.100mdk.noarch) I find that I can access Webmin and all seems to work OK except I cannot access 'Scheduled Cron Jobs'. I get the following messageAn error occurred while loading https://localhost:1/cron/index.cgi: Connection to host localhost is broken. When I replace the original Webmin rpm the problem disappears. Any ideas please as, If I remember rightly, the update is a security issue. Thanks, Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating MPlayer
I've seen that the version of MPlayer on the PLF repository is way ahead of mine. I'm currently running 9.2, and what I would like to do is upgrade to the latest version of *everything*, ie. all the codecs, etc. When I originally installed mplayer way back when, it automagically installed all the codecs as well, but now, when I do a 'urpme mplayer', it only removes mplayer. Should it not do the same as installing, only in reverse? So as not to 'break' everything, what would be the best way to go about this, so that I get the latest mplayer *and* all the latest codecs (besides installing 10.1)? -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 09:40:40 up 88 days, 10:31, 7 users, load average: 0.28, 0.35, 0.20 +++ Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me. -- Jesus Christ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating the system after install
On Thursday 30 September 2004 23:22, Andrew Konosky wrote: Hello, I just downloaded the 1st install CD of Mandrake 10.1 community because I wanted to try out this distro. I have an old computer that some other distros seemed to have some trouble with, but MandrakeMove booted fine from CD, so I deciced to try the full OS on it. Since I only installed packages from the one CD, the system has very minimal components installed. It has defaulted to using IceWM, but I would like to install Gnome instead. Also, there are no web browsers installed either! I tried installing more software, but the only installation medium I can chose is the CD, and when I select Gnome and Mozilla packages, they are not installed, yet the program reports the installation/update was a success??? I tried updating from the list of ftp servers that it found, but I keep getting an error saying that the servers are not conifugred... Does Mandrake's RPMDrake work similar to Apt-get or similar package managers? How do I install new software from online rather than just the CD? Is there an Apt repo for mandrake anywhere? Does this require me to subscribe to the Mandrake club? I don't want to pay any money just yet, so thats why I downloaded the community ISO version. Then If I like Mandrake, I will contribute get the full version. But I would at least like to try out Mandrake before I decide to sign up for the club. Yes Mandrake does have an online software management system. It is called urpmi. Read about it on the Twiki (follow my sig) Like apt-get urpmi allows you to declare multiple online sources and will automatically locate and install dependencies for you. Mandrake 10.1 Community does not use the update mirrors. They are intended for 'official'. Updates to Community go into the main tree as they developed and when it is mature enough the release will go 'official' and updates will then start going on the update mirrors. If you go here http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ You can declare online sources for 'main', 'contrib', and 'plf' sources. (PLF are packages that are illegal in some countries) You can then use the software install GUI to install anything you please, or by the command line with urpmi. As time goes on you will find that your local database of available packages gets out of date. If you run urpmi.update -a urpmi --aito-select it will refresh your database and automatically upgrade your installed packages to the latest available. You will find the Mandrake Update GUI does nothing because that is intended for 'Official' when packages will be on the update servers. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating the system after install
Hello, I just downloaded the 1st install CD of Mandrake 10.1 community because I wanted to try out this distro. I have an old computer that some other distros seemed to have some trouble with, but MandrakeMove booted fine from CD, so I deciced to try the full OS on it. Since I only installed packages from the one CD, the system has very minimal components installed. It has defaulted to using IceWM, but I would like to install Gnome instead. Also, there are no web browsers installed either! I tried installing more software, but the only installation medium I can chose is the CD, and when I select Gnome and Mozilla packages, they are not installed, yet the program reports the installation/update was a success??? I tried updating from the list of ftp servers that it found, but I keep getting an error saying that the servers are not conifugred... Does Mandrake's RPMDrake work similar to Apt-get or similar package managers? How do I install new software from online rather than just the CD? Is there an Apt repo for mandrake anywhere? Does this require me to subscribe to the Mandrake club? I don't want to pay any money just yet, so thats why I downloaded the community ISO version. Then If I like Mandrake, I will contribute get the full version. But I would at least like to try out Mandrake before I decide to sign up for the club. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating the media cooker from the command line
On Monday 23 August 2004 07:18 am, Paul Smith wrote: How to update the media cooker from the command line? Assuming it is already set up and it is called cooker urpmi.update cooker -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating the media cooker from the command line
Greg Meyer wrote: How to update the media cooker from the command line? Assuming it is already set up and it is called cooker urpmi.update cooker Thanks, Greg. That is what I was looking for. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating
Hi Folks Right, I'm on MDK10 and have found out that I have the basic version of KDE / Kontact so I'm looking to upgrade. ftp://ftp.sunsite.org.uk/sites/ftp.kde.org/kdeftp/stable/3.2.3/ is the place I've found to get the updates from. What program to I used to update? Or do I do it through the shell with urpmi? Ta Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] updating the installed RPM DB!
Hi, when installing new s/w by compiling the source in a 9.2 box, how is it possible to update the installed RPM DB and making the installed libraries viewable in the RpmDrake listing? Thanks for your help GV Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] updating the installed RPM DB!
GV wrote: Hi, when installing new s/w by compiling the source in a 9.2 box, how is it possible to update the installed RPM DB and making the installed libraries viewable in the RpmDrake listing? Thanks for your help GV The correct way to do it is to create a spec file, and build an RPM from the source. That way, you can also use RPM tools to remove, or update the package. It is posible to cheat, and create a binary-only RPM, but I think it is worth the effort to learn to create your own RPMs. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating 10.0
I apologize for this question but I can not figure out how to update my newly installed Mandrake 10.0. The Mandrake Updates Applet in the lower right corner tells me there are no updates available. It seems from what I have read that there have been updates since the 10.0 ISo files were released. What am I not doing or what am I doing wrong? Preston Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] updating mysql using urpmi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, If I update mysql using urpmi, will it delete all my databases and privileges? Thanks. - -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux.arinet.org 22:38:32 up 3:27, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAnP9Lkp5CsIXuxqURAo6zAKChsIgVIIldI7m94V0C+aN+iRt2+wCfTtmh 809VvAzVDm/fZsTpH3Wzv2M= =7DEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] updating mysql using urpmi
Op Sat, 8 May 2004 22:39:52 +0700 schreef Fajar Priyanto: If I update mysql using urpmi, will it delete all my databases and privileges? Thanks. No, it would only update the software. Paul -- Stay light, but trust gravity! http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Updating: ftp vs. http
Hi all, I am trying to add sources via urpmi. When I try and add a source that is ftp it times out - no matter which one I use. When I try a source that is http, it connects no problem and adds the source. Any ideas as to why? I am behind a firewall but haven't seen ftp problems using an ftp program. -- Travis Crook Visions Beyond www.VisionsBeyond.com 208-478-7836 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Updating: ftp vs. http
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 02:22 pm, Travis Crook wrote: Hi all, I am trying to add sources via urpmi. When I try and add a source that is ftp it times out - no matter which one I use. When I try a source that is http, it connects no problem and adds the source. Any ideas as to why? I am behind a firewall but haven't seen ftp problems using an ftp program. Most mirrors allow a certian number of connections from ftp and http clients. You probably found a mirror that was full-up on it's ftp connections but had some available http connections. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] updating rc1
I updated rc1 via cooker as greg suggested, and for some reason it wants to put kde 3 on there when I am sure I read that its deprecated now. Anyone have a clue? -- Troy T. Hall Registered Linux User #342150 Mandrake Club Member Abilene, KS. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating rc1
On Saturday 28 February 2004 01:47 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote: I updated rc1 via cooker as greg suggested, and for some reason it wants to put kde 3 on there when I am sure I read that its deprecated now. Anyone have a clue? What's the exact error? Current KDE in Cooker s/b 3.2 -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating rc1
Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2004 01:47 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote: I updated rc1 via cooker as greg suggested, and for some reason it wants to put kde 3 on there when I am sure I read that its deprecated now. Anyone have a clue? What's the exact error? Current KDE in Cooker s/b 3.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ok, I thought it was supposed to be 4.x now. -- Troy T. Hall Registered Linux User #342150 Mandrake Club Member Abilene, KS. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating rc1
On Saturday 28 February 2004 02:54 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote: What's the exact error? Current KDE in Cooker s/b 3.2 ok, I thought it was supposed to be 4.x now. Nope 3.2 is the latest and greatest. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating LaTeX
Dear All Is there some wizard to update LaTeX? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating LaTeX
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All Is there some wizard to update LaTeX? Thank you a lot in advance! If you mean that you've installed new packages within your LaTeX distro, the update command (as root) is texhash. If you're talking about updating LaTeX itself, I don't know. Probably best to wipe your old distribution and start from fresh. Sir Robin -- Telling disgruntled employees that they are always free to leave their jobs seems no different in principle from telling political dissidents that they are free to emigrate. - Stephen Newman Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating LaTeX
If you mean that you've installed new packages within your LaTeX distro, the update command (as root) is texhash. If you're talking about updating LaTeX itself, I don't know. Probably best to wipe your old distribution and start from fresh. Thanks, Robin! I mean something like what happens with MikTeX (the LaTeX version for MS Windows), which comes with a wizard that allows us to update the packages of the LaTeX distribution installed on our machine. Furthermore, it entitles us to choose the mirror to be used for the updating. This feature is quite useful, as the domestic Internet traffic is much cheaper than the international one. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] updating Gaim on MDK9.2
Hi guys, Has anybody out there updated to the latest version of gaim? I have downloaded the lates RPM to suit MDK9.2 but I get an error when I try to run it. Installation failed: file /usr/lib/libgaim-remote.so.0.0.0 from install of gaim-0.75-0mdk9.2 conflicts with file from package libgaim-remote0-0.68-1mdk I have tried removing the old copy of gaim using rpmdrake and have also deleted all files starting with libgaim-remote from /usr/lib/. Yet I still get the error - any thoughts??? I need to have something that will talk with MSN as all but two of my friends are from the great unwashed (Microsoft Users), I've tried Amsn and kopete works fine, but gaim looks to have the nicest user interface. Thanks - Aidan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating Gaim on MDK9.2
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:42:29 +0800 aidanh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody out there updated to the latest version of gaim? I have downloaded the lates RPM to suit MDK9.2 Dl the 9.2 gaim-0.75 rpms from my site and you will not have a problem. You will need to get gaim-0.75-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm and libgaim-remote0-0.75-0.1mdk.cae.i586.rpm though you can install all the gaim rpms if you so choose, there are 7 in all. Charles -- It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. -- Garfield - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon 2.6.1-1.tmb.3mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 11:47:17 AM PST, you wrote: Yes. Put them all on one disk, ... I'm still a little confused (my natural state)... What exactly do you mean by them all? At the MDK ftp updates site, there is a folder called 9.2. Inside that folder are three folders (Base, RPMS, and SRPMS) and a few loose files (descriptions, ls-lR, md5sums) [I'm not sure if that one file is ls-lR, or Is-IR (or something else?). Anyway... Are all the actual update files contained in RPMS and SRPMS? ... then define the disk as a urpmi source. Then you can go into the software installer and it will tell you what needs to be updated. To define them as a source, go into the software sources manager and add the disk or directory. To lessen my own confusion a bit, I did the following: I created three new directories (by the way...where's the most logical place to put such directories?), and copied/pasted the contents of their corresponding folders from the CD-R: 1) /MDKUpdateRPMS 2) /MDKUpdateSRPMS 3) /MDKUpdateBase (I also put the three loose files in here) Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories: K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager. Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available to urpmi? 2) If I do have all the files on one CD-R, what is the best way to install what's needed and/or wanted? Put them all in one directory available from Linux. Again...where's the most logical place to put such a directory? For the moment, I've placed them under /home/melissa/... The command is urpmi --auto-select --update This will install all the security fixes and updates based on the packages you already have installed, in other words, updating them to the latest versions. Oops! Here's what I get from that command: Everything is already installed What am I doing wrong here? Thanks! - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/v8yfjVbXUvsE8ukRAivvAKCxeKttTFZP9IBFcNnjtypNNCVrAwCgx14r XntaDZy6vU3d8pNW6JJK4bU= =HmGR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Me, On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 12:58:34 PM PST, I wrote: Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories: K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager. Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available to urpmi? Oh! Also... In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an option I don't understand: [ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist What does this mean? I did notice that if I right-click on one of media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist (something like that), but I don't know what this means. Thanks! - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/v88DjVbXUvsE8ukRAmKcAKDqBHe8rJeIYCzIiE80ZPhvF5/kYQCeLj/C Lg+3x2rp856MgAaqoZwslWY= =dbg1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 22 November 2003 2:03 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: chop Hi Me, Oh! Also... In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an option I don't understand: [ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist In your case, and from what you posted already, the relative path (I found where you added my update packages but where the hell are the descriptions?) is /MDKUpdateBase/hdlist.cz For now... What does this mean? I did notice that if I right-click on one of media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist (something like that), but I don't know what this means. Thanks! HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 14:24:38 up 2 days, 5:03, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.27 Old Grandad is dead but his spirits live on. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/v9S3G11CaRuZZSIRAlQyAJ9yz9DPXcumwi6kF9Y++P6ZvV2G9QCfWskA 2cgXK4T56Z+U/TLjE4SMXFU= =iCCe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
On Saturday 22 November 2003 04:03 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Me, On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 12:58:34 PM PST, I wrote: Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories: K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager. Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available to urpmi? Oh! Also... In the where I'm defining the path to the directories, there's an option I don't understand: [ ] relative path to synthesis/hdlist What does this mean? I did notice that if I right-click on one of media sources in the list, there's a choice to regenerate hdlist (something like that), but I don't know what this means. There is a file on the update mirrors in the base directory called hdlist.cz, and it contains information about the RPMS in the directory. if the file is missing, the sources manager can regenerate it if it missing, but if you are using a source across the internet, that can take a long time. Relative path means the path to the hdlist file relative to the directory the RPMs are in, so if the hdlist file is in the directory with the RPMs, the relative path is ./ (current directory) but if the hdlist file is in the base directory, for the updates the relative path would be ../base BTW, the . always refers to the current directory and the .. always refers to the parent directory. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 22 November 2003 1:58 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: Hi Greg, On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 11:47:17 AM PST, you wrote: Yes. Put them all on one disk, ... I'm still a little confused (my natural state)... What exactly do you mean by them all? At the MDK ftp updates site, there is a folder called 9.2. Inside that folder are three folders (Base, RPMS, and SRPMS) and a few loose files (descriptions, ls-lR, md5sums) [I'm not sure if that one file is ls-lR, or Is-IR (or something else?). Anyway... The hdlist you need for urpmi is in the /base directory. md5sums is a security measure used by urpmi. Yes, urpmi is the command line tool, rpmdrake is the frontend that uses it. In oversimplified terms of course. Are all the actual update files contained in RPMS and SRPMS? Unless you want to kill some time you don't really need the SRPMS directory at all Melissa. Those are the actual source files the packages are built from and while some distributions are built optimized using sources there isn't enough of a performance improvement for you to bother at the moment. Just /base /RPMS and the md5sums is fine. ... then define the disk as a urpmi source. Then you can go into the software installer and it will tell you what needs to be updated. To define them as a source, go into the software sources manager and add the disk or directory. To lessen my own confusion a bit, I did the following: I created three new directories (by the way...where's the most logical place to put such directories?), and copied/pasted the contents of their corresponding folders from the CD-R: What's logic have to do with it? g You have what you need, but mirror what you saw on the server. Don't move files to directories they weren't originally in. I would put all three into an updates directory though. 1) /MDKUpdateRPMS 2) /MDKUpdateSRPMS 3) /MDKUpdateBase (I also put the three loose files in here) See above, you didn't really need the SRPMS directory but it doesn't hurt anything. Then, I added each of those new directories to the list of places to look for updated files. Here's how I added the new directories: K menu, then to Configuration/Packaging/Software Media Manager. Was that the right place to deal with that to make the files available to urpmi? Yes. Or do it from a konsole as super user: urpmi.addmedia updates /home/melissa/MDKUpdateRPMS with ../MDKUpdateBase/hdlist.cz all on one line, single spaced where spaces are needed. You could just copy and paste that line above into the super user konsole and hit enter. 2) If I do have all the files on one CD-R, what is the best way to install what's needed and/or wanted? Put them all in one directory available from Linux. Again...where's the most logical place to put such a directory? For the moment, I've placed them under /home/melissa/... Good enough but read what I posted above. To make life easier for yourself put all three and any loose files into an updates directory. The command is urpmi --auto-select --update This will install all the security fixes and updates based on the packages you already have installed, in other words, updating them to the latest versions. Oops! Here's what I get from that command: Everything is already installed urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select enter After you teach urpmi where to look for updates of course. That's the stuff above. What am I doing wrong here? Thanks! You're getting there. g Have fun! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 14:08:19 up 2 days, 4:47, 1 user, load average: 0.11, 0.98, 0.82 I didn't get sophisticated -- I just got tired. But maybe that's what sophisticated is -- being tired. -- Rita Gain -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/v9P3G11CaRuZZSIRAqNAAJ9xStX1in42UmovNNZjNotCIWImuwCgphup E/uG+k6U8DJff8zaazAlWEA= =xee6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Charlie, On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 1:23:56 PM PST, you wrote: urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select enter Thanks...that worked well. Now though... After that update session, several menu items were missing. I then used the following command: update-menus -v, and things looked *almost* normal again (fewer items in the task bar). But then... I went into the menu/task bar configuration options, and experimented there a bit (I thought I was just adding a few menu items to the main K menu). When I finished with that, my K menu didn't look anything like what I expected, and certain applications are no longer in any of the sub-menus! Some notable missing items: Configuration sub-menu is missing. I can only get to Mandrake Control Center via the mcc command in a Konsole, but I don't know how to get to the other configuration options that used to be under the now missing configuration sub-menu. Emacs is gone from the text editor sub-menu! Eek! Where did it go? There are several other changes to the K menu and its sub-menus, and missing icons that were normally on the task bar by default. I'm not sure what I've done, but for the moment, I'd kind of like to get back to the K menu/sub-menus and task bar that I'm still trying to get used to. I'd also just like to know why when I try to *add* things, other things disappear? Thanks! - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/wDwfjVbXUvsE8ukRAlvQAKCOy1WOOYtYK4YJlskaqGH76pJDmwCdG4DD 6qDuWCVsOssIKZ4cONnuIww= =J7qe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating, dependencies, etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 22 November 2003 9:49 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: Hi Charlie, On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 1:23:56 PM PST, you wrote: urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select enter Thanks...that worked well. Now though... After that update session, several menu items were missing. I then used the following command: update-menus -v, and things looked *almost* normal again (fewer items in the task bar). But then... I went into the menu/task bar configuration options, and experimented there a bit (I thought I was just adding a few menu items to the main K menu). When I finished with that, my K menu didn't look anything like what I expected, and certain applications are no longer in any of the sub-menus! Some notable missing items: That's a strange one but not really unexpected at all. There's another command below to try to get back what you lost, keep track of any error messages generated when you run it. Configuration sub-menu is missing. I can only get to Mandrake Control Center via the mcc command in a Konsole, but I don't know how to get to the other configuration options that used to be under the now missing configuration sub-menu. Emacs is gone from the text editor sub-menu! Eek! Where did it go? That's a new one. I've never noticed emacs going missing from the menu. I'll have to give that some thought. There are several other changes to the K menu and its sub-menus, and missing icons that were normally on the task bar by default. Which ones Melissa? The Open Office icons went missing from my task bar during the last round of updates but I didn't care since I dislike clutter and they're still under the Office sub-menu in the K menu anyway. I'm not sure what I've done, but for the moment, I'd kind of like to get back to the K menu/sub-menus and task bar that I'm still trying to get used to. I'd also just like to know why when I try to *add* things, other things disappear? It's probably a part of the original missing menu items problem, and will return to normal when you run the command below. Thanks! You're welcome. Try the following command: rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus -n -v ldconfig enter Holler if you need to. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 22:26:04 up 2 days, 13:05, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.47, 0.70 Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/wEfQG11CaRuZZSIRAoQHAJ45ZSXsk3nPuFcX/Y/0lKVSvkkveQCaAnd4 +P7h38N7MOAsMG8XTsc8ooQ= =bVuv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 14 November 2003 12:47 pm, Margot wrote: I was using urpmi the other night and received a message that I should update my database. I thought the command I used to use for this on 9.0 was 'updatedb', but I tried all 3 ways (as user, su and root) and got the response 'command not found'. Tried 'man db' and 'man urpmi', and looked on the TWiki, but couldn't find a command for updating the database. Help! Margot Hi; What's the address you're using, and for which mirror Margot? Some tree structures are possibly changed due to the complete release of 9.2, and the URL may have to be changed to reflect that. This happens because the mirrors are a voluntary thing, and some only keep the trees for the most recent 2 versions, others move them to the Old directories or drop them altogether. Please post the URL you're using and I'll see what i can come up with, OK? Or someone that has a clue (unlike myself g) will. Regards; Charlie P.S. The following compound command as super user or root will do a complete database and menu update for you, then reload the configuration: rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus ldconfig enter C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 13:49:44 up 4 days, 1:55, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.24, 0.29 I must have slipped a disk -- my pack hurts! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tUJiG11CaRuZZSIRApYaAKCttNqspC1VcYUETeAnhqOqRH0axwCfZb7c m7Ny1sFZrkZBiFxVDUM3yrU= =zsyG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 14 November 2003 12:47 pm, Margot wrote: I was using urpmi the other night and received a message that I should update my database. I thought the command I used to use for this on 9.0 was 'updatedb', but I tried all 3 ways (as user, su and root) and got the response 'command not found'. Tried 'man db' and 'man urpmi', and looked on the TWiki, but couldn't find a command for updating the database. Help! Margot brain fart alert! Sorry about that, I didn't read the subject through. The command I posted will do what you want if the sources in the software manager are current for the version of Mandrake Linux you have installed. If not head to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon to set it up. Or just do urpmi urpmi.setup to do the same locally. That only works if the package is on the disks you have, or if you already have a contrib source configured though. \brain fart mode There's also the minor fact that the tree for 9.2 on the mirrors doesn't seem to have consistent information since the extra kernels etc were added and the LG Killer (it's a joke!) BOOT kernel was removed. I'm still getting errors on contrib packages because of it. I'll shut up and get back to work now. Sorry again. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 14:01:09 up 4 days, 2:06, 1 user, load average: 0.33, 0.38, 0.32 BOFH excuse #88: Boss' kid fucked up the machine -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tUVfG11CaRuZZSIRArvmAJ96r/CcBYNiWKLyYSe12gsKYg9VJACeO6Oy sNJk87rCyuevzk1xeymlqIc= =ARzh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
Charlie M. wrote: Hi; What's the address you're using, and for which mirror Margot? Some tree structures are possibly changed due to the complete release of 9.2, and the URL may have to be changed to reflect that. This happens because the mirrors are a voluntary thing, and some only keep the trees for the most recent 2 versions, others move them to the Old directories or drop them altogether. Please post the URL you're using and I'll see what i can come up with, OK? Or someone that has a clue (unlike myself g) will. Being really stupid here (as usual!) but I can't find the command to give the URLs for my sources. Tried [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# urpmq --list-media But only got this list of the names of the media I've got set up, not the URLs: Installation CD1 Discovery (cdrom1) Installation CD2 Discovery (cdrom2) Installation CD2 Discovery (cdrom3) updates main contrib plf LF CD1 LF CD2 LF CD3 They shouldn't be too out-of-date though - I only added them a few days ago via Easy Urpmi. Regards; Charlie P.S. The following compound command as super user or root will do a complete database and menu update for you, then reload the configuration: rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus ldconfig enter C. Result: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus ldconfig bash: updatedb: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# So it is not finding the 'updatedb' command - has this command changed its name in 9.2? I'm sure it used to work in 9.0. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
On Friday 14 Nov 2003 7:47 pm, Margot wrote: I was using urpmi the other night and received a message that I should update my database. I thought the command I used to use for this on 9.0 was 'updatedb', but I tried all 3 ways (as user, su and root) and got the response 'command not found'. Tried 'man db' and 'man urpmi', and looked on the TWiki, but couldn't find a command for updating the database. Help! Margot 'updatedb' is the command to update the slocate database for fast file searches. You want 'urpmi.update -a' to update the urpmi databases of all online sources. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
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Friday 14 November 2003 2:54 pm, Margot wrote:
snip
Being really stupid here (as usual!) but I can't find the command to
give the URLs for my sources. Tried
[EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# urpmq --list-media
But only got this list of the names of the media I've got set up, not
the URLs:
Installation CD1 Discovery (cdrom1)
Installation CD2 Discovery (cdrom2)
Installation CD2 Discovery (cdrom3)
updates
main
contrib
plf
LF CD1
LF CD2
LF CD3
They shouldn't be too out-of-date though - I only added them a few days
ago via Easy Urpmi.
Result:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]# rpm --rebuilddb updatedb update-menus
ldconfig
bash: updatedb: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]#
So it is not finding the 'updatedb' command - has this command changed
its name in 9.2? I'm sure it used to work in 9.0.
Should still work.
Margot
The configuration files for urpmi live in /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
Here's mine:
contrib ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586
{
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
list: list.contrib
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
update_source
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.update_source.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
list: list.update_source
key-ids: 22458a98
}
club
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.2/i586
{
hdlist: hdlist.club.cz
with_hdlist: ../hdlist.cz
list: list.club
}
main
ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
{
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
key-ids: 70771ff3
}
PLF ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/mandrake/9.2/i586 {
hdlist: hdlist.PLF.cz
with_hdlist: ../hdlist.cz
list: list.PLF
key-ids: caba22ae
}
As I posted previously I get error messages for contribs as well. However the
updatedb command runs with no trouble here. In fact that entire chain
actually runs on every system I've helped install 9.2 on so far.
I'm not sure what's causing the trouble with the command but I'd start by
comparing the files.
HTH
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 14 November 2003 3:07 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 7:47 pm, Margot wrote: I was using urpmi the other night and received a message that I should update my database. I thought the command I used to use for this on 9.0 was 'updatedb', but I tried all 3 ways (as user, su and root) and got the response 'command not found'. Tried 'man db' and 'man urpmi', and looked on the TWiki, but couldn't find a command for updating the database. Help! Margot 'updatedb' is the command to update the slocate database for fast file searches. You want 'urpmi.update -a' to update the urpmi databases of all online sources. derek Thanks Derek; I knew I was forgetting something. That mess I sent earlier was incomplete. I'm still getting contrib uses invalid database, trying alternative method or something similar. When I have a few extra minutes I'll get the exact error and post it here. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 15:36:43 up 4 days, 3:42, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.22, 0.23 Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. -- Sam Brown, The Washington Post, January 26, 1977 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tVmHG11CaRuZZSIRAgpQAJ4/Si0yeQ+vwKLuB+4GrT2tRsj70wCdFVON RWusZz6SPkcEKvrDAAwDLv4= =qDua -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 7:47 pm, Margot wrote: I was using urpmi the other night and received a message that I should update my database. I thought the command I used to use for this on 9.0 was 'updatedb', but I tried all 3 ways (as user, su and root) and got the response 'command not found'. Tried 'man db' and 'man urpmi', and looked on the TWiki, but couldn't find a command for updating the database. Help! Margot 'updatedb' is the command to update the slocate database for fast file searches. You want 'urpmi.update -a' to update the urpmi databases of all online sources. derek Thanks Derek - I have now run 'urpmi.update -a' and accomplished what I set out to do. Still puzzled though - even though 'updatedb' was the wrong command for what I wanted to do, as it is a valid command, why didn't it run? Even though it would not have done what I wanted, surely it should have done *something*? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
On Friday 14 Nov 2003 10:52 pm, Margot wrote: Still puzzled though - even though 'updatedb' was the wrong command for what I wanted to do, as it is a valid command, why didn't it run? Even though it would not have done what I wanted, surely it should have done *something*? Margot It is only a valid command if the 'slocate' package is installed, and you are root. Install it. It is really useful :-) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating urpmi database on 9.2
Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 10:52 pm, Margot wrote: Still puzzled though - even though 'updatedb' was the wrong command for what I wanted to do, as it is a valid command, why didn't it run? Even though it would not have done what I wanted, surely it should have done *something*? Margot It is only a valid command if the 'slocate' package is installed, and you are root. Install it. It is really useful :-) derek Thanks again Derek - I used to have slocate installed for 9.0, but I must have missed it out when installing 9.2! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating to Mdk9.1 and OLD needed software!
Hi! I was going to upgrade my mdk9.0 Linux box, when I realized that I cannot installed Netscape v4.76 (required from my bank!) on mdk9.1! It is *only* a library problem or what? I've d/l the new soft from Netscape, tried version 2.2 and 2.0 (kernels). TIA Ricardo Castanho -- == Linux user # 102240 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] == AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2002 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. All rights reserved. For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:05:01 -0300 09:05:01 up 6 days, 20:38, 4 users, load average: 1.11, 1.20, 1.21 A man was reading The Canterbury Tales one Saturday morning, when his wife asked What have you got there? Replied he, Just my cup and Chaucer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating to Mdk9.1 and OLD needed software!
On Thursday 02 Oct 2003 1:13 pm, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: Hi! I was going to upgrade my mdk9.0 Linux box, when I realized that I cannot installed Netscape v4.76 (required from my bank!) on mdk9.1! It is *only* a library problem or what? I've d/l the new soft from Netscape, tried version 2.2 and 2.0 (kernels). TIA Ricardo Castanho Ricardo, have you tried any other browsers? This all started when Netcape 6 came out and had serious vulnerabilities. 7 was OK, and worked for many banks. My bank would not allow 6, but I can use Mozilla, Konqueror or Opera without problems. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall have a look at rpmseek.com: http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/urpmi.html?hl=comcs=urpmi:PN:0:0:0:0 remo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 15, 2003 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Stormjumper. My system is in a big mess already (see [newbie] Installation problem) and I need my urpmi to continue to work. I cannot take the risk of messing up my system even more. Especially with the tool that is supposed to help me out of the mess. Can somebody please give me a more reassuring answer. Thanx, Ayoub Ayoub; the answer to your question is yes, urpmi can be upgrade just as with any other package. Easiest way; since if you already know there's an update available for it just open a terminal and as super user (root) type: urpmi urpmi enter The dependencies will all be worked out for you. The reason you don't see anything specific about it is quite simply that there's no need for it. Updates are updates. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-9mdk 00:23:05 up 11:48, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.42, 0.70 G. B. Shaw to William Douglas Home: Go on writing plays, my boy. One of these days a London producer will go into his office and say to his secretary, `Is there a play from Shaw this morning?' and when she says `No,' he will say, `Well, then we'll have to start on the rubbish.' And that's your chance, my boy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Zq1lG11CaRuZZSIRAhP2AJ0RV5Lwy8cpkwNKggEkayzw7+vKgwCgij5Q Gn4RRkTdvAK/5FKUDjbEIdg= =/kuP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Stormjumper. My system is in a big mess already (see [newbie] Installation problem) and I need my urpmi to continue to work. I cannot take the risk of messing up my system even more. Especially with the tool that is supposed to help me out of the mess. Can somebody please give me a more reassuring answer. Thanx, Ayoub Stormjumper wrote: i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall mandrake once released an updated rpm for urpmi, and it was installed properly using urpmi. so the answer is: probably safe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:54 Subject: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself. Hi, The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs. I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi the way I updateother programs; using urpmi itself? If that is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give me an answer to these questions. Thanx, Ayoub [Deleted] Using urpmi to update urpmi is just fine. Just run urpmi urpmi and you're good to go. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 02:25:00 up 9 days, 13:41, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.09 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] updating x86
Hi, I am using x86 version 4.3.0. I need to update it and do not know how. Would somebody tell me how to update it? _ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
you're using a funny name... :p d2ci1fj g1nf24 remo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT] Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200 you're using a funny name... :p d2ci1fj g1nf24 remo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I filled it in for another reason and the last three times I tried to go into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I have not tried lately but I will try again. What does [OT] mean? From, Steven _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] updating x86 with fix
Hi, I am trying to update x86, I am using 4.3.0. I do not know what to download and how to install it. Would somebody tell me how to install it in detail? From, Steven _ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 04:14, d2ci1fj g1nf24 wrote: From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT] Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200 you're using a funny name... :p d2ci1fj g1nf24 remo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I filled it in for another reason and the last three times I tried to go into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I have not tried lately but I will try again. What does [OT] mean? From, Steven OT= Off Topic WHy do you think you _need_ to update Xfree? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT]
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 01:14, d2ci1fj g1nf24 wrote: From: Liechti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] updating x86 [OT] Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:50:38 +0200 you're using a funny name... :p d2ci1fj g1nf24 remo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I filled it in for another reason and the last three times I tried to go into the option folder in hotmail to change it would keep asling me for my email and password. I would enter it and it came back up asking me again. I have not tried lately but I will try again. What does [OT] mean? Old and Tacky :-)) From, Steven _ Need more e-mail storage? Get 10MB with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
Hi, The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs. I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi the way I update other programs; using urpmi itself? If that is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give me an answer to these questions. Thanx, Ayoub Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall mandrake once released an updated rpm for urpmi, and it was installed properly using urpmi. so the answer is: probably safe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:54 Subject: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself. Hi, The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs. I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi the way I update other programs; using urpmi itself? If that is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give me an answer to these questions. Thanx, Ayoub -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself.
Thanks Stormjumper. My system is in a big mess already (see [newbie] Installation problem) and I need my urpmi to continue to work. I cannot take the risk of messing up my system even more. Especially with the tool that is supposed to help me out of the mess. Can somebody please give me a more reassuring answer. Thanx, Ayoub Stormjumper wrote: i have no direct answer to your question, but i seem to recall mandrake once released an updated rpm for urpmi, and it was installed properly using urpmi. so the answer is: probably safe. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:54 Subject: [newbie] Updating URPMI itself. Hi, The HOWTOs I read show me how to use urpmi to update programs. I need to update urpmi itself. Will it be safe to update urpmi the way I updateother programs; using urpmi itself? If that is not safe then how do I update urpmi? The HOWTOs do not give me an answer to these questions. Thanx, Ayoub [Deleted] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating GTK
On Tuesday 11 March 2003 10:01 pm, Anders Lind wrote: Hello, is there a simple way to update GTK to version 2 on a Mandrake 8.2-system, the thing is that I do not wish to do it package by package, although timewise I would have the time to fix that. This is a thing where I find the RPM-system inferior to for example FreeBSD's portsystem. Cheers Anders Well if you are using the 9.0 or later GTK2 then you must rebuild from source each blessed package (put them all in one dedicated directory and rpm --rebuild * from within that directory) CAUSE-- 9.0 and later is done with a significanlty different compiler and glibc versin and is binary incompatible with previous versions... And BSD's port system will do nothing about that. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating GTK
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:46 -0900 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if you are using the 9.0 or later GTK2 then you must rebuild from source each blessed package (put them all in one dedicated directory and Uuummas I stated before it is a 8.2 system I am working however on urpmi-solution, the reason is that I want to be able to run XChat 2.0 and since it is not GTK2 on a 8.2-system I have to go about it this way /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating GTK
Hello, is there a simple way to update GTK to version 2 on a Mandrake 8.2-system, the thing is that I do not wish to do it package by package, although timewise I would have the time to fix that. This is a thing where I find the RPM-system inferior to for example FreeBSD's portsystem. Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Updating GTK
is there a simple way to update GTK to version 2 on a Mandrake 8.2-system, the thing is that I do not wish to do it package by package, although timewise I would have the time to fix that. This is a thing where I find the RPM-system inferior to for example FreeBSD's portsystem. OMG, someone has not read our posts about urpmi try using urmpi to update everything, it will check for dependencies and everything... Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating Mozilla
I now have Mozilla 0.98 and Galeon 1.0.3, which came as RPMs with Mandrake 8.2. I need to update them to more recent version. In the case of Mozilla, I need also to install the Spanish language pack, which I have been unable to do with 0.98. As best I can tell from reading previous messages on this list, I should: 1. Download recent Mozilla and Galeon RPMs, preferably mdk specific ones. Perhaps from Texstar's site? 2. Upgrade Mozilla and Galeon. Test. 3. Install the Spanish language pack for Mozilla. If anyone sees a problem with this plan, please speak up. I normally prefer the trial and error approach, but this particular job must be completed today without error or fail. I've already downloaded Mozilla 1.2.1 and Galeon 1.2.8 as tarballs, but after reading previous posts on this list I get the impression that I would be better off with RPMs. One of these days I'll learn how to roll my own RPMs from tarballs, but today's not the day. The reason I need to upgrade Mozilla is not so much the limitations of 0.98 as the fact that I can't get the Spanish language pack to install and I need a Spanish Mozilla working by OOB tomorrow for a course I'm teaching. Rather than fight the language pack install with an old version, it seems wiser to just upgrade to the current version. Does anyone see any gotchas, or have any tips? -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Mozilla
On Monday 10 March 2003 10:51 am, Warren Post wrote: I now have Mozilla 0.98 and Galeon 1.0.3, which came as RPMs with Mandrake 8.2. I need to update them to more recent version. In the case of Mozilla, I need also to install the Spanish language pack, which I have been unable to do with 0.98. As best I can tell from reading previous messages on this list, I should: 1. Download recent Mozilla and Galeon RPMs, preferably mdk specific ones. Perhaps from Texstar's site? 2. Upgrade Mozilla and Galeon. Test. 3. Install the Spanish language pack for Mozilla. If anyone sees a problem with this plan, please speak up. I normally prefer the trial and error approach, but this particular job must be completed today without error or fail. I've already downloaded Mozilla 1.2.1 and Galeon 1.2.8 as tarballs, but after reading previous posts on this list I get the impression that I would be better off with RPMs. One of these days I'll learn how to roll my own RPMs from tarballs, but today's not the day. The reason I need to upgrade Mozilla is not so much the limitations of 0.98 as the fact that I can't get the Spanish language pack to install and I need a Spanish Mozilla working by OOB tomorrow for a course I'm teaching. Rather than fight the language pack install with an old version, it seems wiser to just upgrade to the current version. Does anyone see any gotchas, or have any tips? Yeah, all those rpms are for 9.0 and you are running 8.2. Not gonna work unless you rebuild the src.rpms on your system, which will probably be a PITA. You might be better off upgrading to 9.0, or waiting a week and upgrading to 9.1. It will probably be less work ,plus you'll get all the other goodies in the new release. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Mozilla
I normally upgrade using the tarball from mozilla.org. 1. delete /usr/local/mozilla (don't know if it is necessary) 2. run the mozilla-installer you downloaded and untarred, as root 3. run mozilla as root, exit after it starts 4. run as normal user. 5. update the links to the plugins (Flash, Java...) under the 'plugin' diretcory, as root One important thing: the installer creates under /usr/local/mozilla a number of directories and files. For some reason, the 'components' directory gets created with wrong attributes, so mozilla can run only for root. Before you can run as normal user, you need to # chmod og+rx components as root. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now have Mozilla 0.98 and Galeon 1.0.3, which came as RPMs with Mandrake 8.2. I need to update them to more recent version. In the case of Mozilla, I need also to install the Spanish language pack, which I have been unable to do with 0.98. As best I can tell from reading previous messages on this list, I should: 1. Download recent Mozilla and Galeon RPMs, preferably mdk specific ones. Perhaps from Texstar's site? 2. Upgrade Mozilla and Galeon. Test. 3. Install the Spanish language pack for Mozilla. If anyone sees a problem with this plan, please speak up. I normally prefer the trial and error approach, but this particular job must be completed today without error or fail. I've already downloaded Mozilla 1.2.1 and Galeon 1.2.8 as tarballs, but after reading previous posts on this list I get the impression that I would be better off with RPMs. One of these days I'll learn how to roll my own RPMs from tarballs, but today's not the day. The reason I need to upgrade Mozilla is not so much the limitations of 0.98 as the fact that I can't get the Spanish language pack to install and I need a Spanish Mozilla working by OOB tomorrow for a course I'm teaching. Rather than fight the language pack install with an old version, it seems wiser to just upgrade to the current version. Does anyone see any gotchas, or have any tips? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating Mozilla
So far, so good, with thanks to Raffaele and Todd for suggesting that I use a tarball and not RPM. I had to kill my /user/.mozilla file before the Spanish language pack would work, but that's no problem. Thanks again. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Monday 09 December 2002 08:55, Ray Henry wrote: Yeah, that's what started all this trouble. Over 8 hours to finally get it installed, after having to figure out that Mandrake was lying to me. And now, more hours to get the modem working again :/ Bummer :/ Here my Quanta worked from day one. Have you installed your dist. from 3 CD's or only the first one? If only the first one, then I'm not surprised that your having problems. Actually, I was dual-booting with W98/RH 7.4, and didn't want to spend time getting all my toys working under RH. They work under MDK just fine. Too bad so much other stuff doesn't. I would probably been better off getting everything working under RH. Nah, Mandrake is better. Many things are easier under MDK as Redhat tend to be a little to MS'ish. Eg. the missing Mp3 support is a big no-no if they wanna survive the battle. MDK is gaining in on the market. It's got a long way to go before it's OS/2, though. At least for the end user. Sure, with server applications, Linux rocks. But to use as a desktop OS, it fails miserably at this point. I have never tried OS/2, so that I can't say, but Linux as a desktop OS would be better IF...the hardware manufactures would go support it! Somehow MS is the only one exisiting in their universe, and it's a pitty. But the way it is now, desktop with Linux could be easier, but it aint impossible :-) After a day of MDK'ing, I've experienced more frustration than I have since someone slipped a disk with the stoned.empire.monkey virus into my W95 machine about 5 years ago I didn't give up then, either. That's the problem: 1 day only. I said the same thing as you did the first week, I nearly cried myself to sleep (well not exactly, but you get the point), then I started hanging out at freenode and all my greefs became burried one after the other. Help in this universe isn't so far away. Although the experts told me after 48 hours I'd done everything possible, and that the only resolution was to buy a new HD. hmm. Yes, I am a bitter man. I miss my OS/2, and I want it back, dammit! :| :-) Smile The Linux community would be a better place for newbies if, as said before, the manufactures would recognise Linux as an option, and the same with the software developers. If MSI/nVidia made a driverset equals the Windows ones, I wouldn't have to use Windows for TV-Out (I know it's possible under Linux, but last time I tried my X setup went to the basement, and I haven't tried since). And if the game producers made Linux ports the way UT 2003 is for eg., then I wouldn't have to boot MS. But it's coming! It takes time though. MS has it's place in the world, but 3500DKK (that's app. 430USD) for a Windows XP Pro.. that's way to much when MDK9 comes for free and does the same, if not better. -- Martin L. Johansen Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) Spam will be forwared to /dev/null ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On 08 Dec 2002 17:00:55 -0600 Ray Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ ack yes.. i've tried to upgrade myself and i get the same thing. there's a few progs out there i'd like but it needs a newer version of gcc but, having tried mandrake 9.0, i'm loathe to update. (don't like 9.0 one bit.) If you figure out how, let me know too. Jerry :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 18:55, Ray Henry wrote: Yes, I am a bitter man. I miss my OS/2, and I want it back, dammit! :| OS/2 running Felix, hacked OS/2Win applications (when really really needed) - mwith 2 x 16 port digiboards w/ octopus' to a modem per line...64mb of RAM, three 540mb Seagates - swap file on the secondary drive, temp on the data drive...flew like the dickens... ...gosh, those were great days...was even better when I had 24 SIMULTANEOUS users online all either downloading or chatting...wow...those were the days... -- Mon Dec 9 20:35:00 EST 2002 8:35pm up 1 day, 20 min, 5 users, load average: 0.23, 1.30, 2.56 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I'm growing older, but not up. -- Jimmy Buffett Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Monday 09 Dec 2002 3:09 am, Todd Slater wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 01:47:49 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to discover urpmi The command urpmi gcc (as root) will do all you need. Then read up about urpmi at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3558 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3460 derek Not related to gcc but gtk2+, pango, and a few other packages--would urpmi work for that, too? If I have apps compiled using the older gtk (1.2), is an upgrade going to mess them up? I hosed my system once trying to upgrade these packages, and am debating about whether to move to 9.0 or wait for the next release. I just want to run the new ROX, but I can't! Todd No. because the 8.2 sources do not have gtk2.0 in them. To run Rox 1.3 you will need gtk2.0, and in order to get that installed you will have to update an awful lot of packages. I would recommend going to 9.0 There is always a better release just around the corner. In my experience 9.0 is just great. Rox 1.3 is very nice, but if you run Fluxbox/Blackbox there is a conflict between the Right mouse button between them that means that running the Rox pinboard is more trouble than it is worth IMO. So now I run Rox with the panel instead. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:42:05AM +, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 09 Dec 2002 3:09 am, Todd Slater wrote: snip Not related to gcc but gtk2+, pango, and a few other packages--would urpmi work for that, too? If I have apps compiled using the older gtk (1.2), is an upgrade going to mess them up? I hosed my system once trying to upgrade these packages, and am debating about whether to move to 9.0 or wait for the next release. I just want to run the new ROX, but I can't! Todd No. because the 8.2 sources do not have gtk2.0 in them. To run Rox 1.3 you will need gtk2.0, and in order to get that installed you will have to update an awful lot of packages. I would recommend going to 9.0 There is always a better release just around the corner. In my experience 9.0 is just great. Rox 1.3 is very nice, but if you run Fluxbox/Blackbox there is a conflict between the Right mouse button between them that means that running the Rox pinboard is more trouble than it is worth IMO. So now I run Rox with the panel instead. derek Thanks for the info, Derek. I just want ROX for the filer. I do use it as a desktop/session manager for my daughter, but to use certain window managers (like Metacity and fvwm4) I need GTK2.0 for those, too. For my purposes, my current setup is functional. But I will upgrade soon because I have really been bit by the customization bug! I hated the look of that ROX panel when I used it. Have you looked at idesk? Several people on the ROX list have mentioned. Some have said it's a pain to set up, but great once you've got it going properly. http://linuxhelp.hn.org/idesk.php Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updating libraries
OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:00, Ray Henry wrote: OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ What about installing an HTML editor that doesn't require all that? Like Quanta? PS: Couldn't you just load the necessary RPM's from your original MDK 8.2 distro? -- Mon Dec 9 10:05:00 EST 2002 10:05am up 13:50, 5 users, load average: 0.26, 0.29, 0.35 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn we: The single most important word in the world. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:00, Ray Henry wrote: OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ What about installing an HTML editor that doesn't require all that? Like Quanta? Or Bluefish! Surely if you use Mdk Software Installer (aka urpmi) yu dependency problems should be sorted out automatically. Sir Robin -- Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it. - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
You need to discover urpmi The command urpmi gcc (as root) will do all you need. Then read up about urpmi at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3558 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3460 derek On Sunday 08 Dec 2002 11:00 pm, Ray Henry wrote: OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 01:47:49 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to discover urpmi The command urpmi gcc (as root) will do all you need. Then read up about urpmi at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3558 http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3460 derek Not related to gcc but gtk2+, pango, and a few other packages--would urpmi work for that, too? If I have apps compiled using the older gtk (1.2), is an upgrade going to mess them up? I hosed my system once trying to upgrade these packages, and am debating about whether to move to 9.0 or wait for the next release. I just want to run the new ROX, but I can't! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:08, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 10:00, Ray Henry wrote: OK, this is EXTREMELY frustrating, an annoying time-consuming process the RedHat has been kind enough to deal with through their auto-updating. Regardless, Mandrake 8.2 comes with support for a number of devices that RedHat doesn't. Here's my problem: All I want to do is install an HTML editor. I'm informed the C++ compiler can't create executables. Search the 'Net, learn that I should update GCC. OK, no problem. rpmfind.net has what I need. gcc-3.2-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install it. Get message: binutils = 2.12.90.0.7-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk gcc-cpp = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk libgcc = 3.2-1mdk is needed by gcc-3.2-1mdk So, I get binutils-2.12-90.0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm. Try to install that, get: libbfd-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed binutil* libopcodes-2.12.90.0.15.so is needed by binutil* Now, I could go on and on here, but you get the idea. There simply has to be a better way of doing this. I've got hours into attempting to install an HTML editor, more than enough time to FDSIK, install W98, and install 2 -3 GIGs of the applications to go what I need. :/ What about installing an HTML editor that doesn't require all that? Like Quanta? Or Bluefish Or for a gui one try Mozilla Composer or OpenOffice.org or StarOffice All on the CD's PS: Couldn't you just load the necessary RPM's from your original MDK 8.2 distro? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 22:55, Michael Adams wrote: Or Bluefish Or for a gui one try Mozilla Composer or OpenOffice.org or StarOffice All on the CD's Yeah, well You know I was hoping for something better than Composer... Anyway, finally figured out what I was doing wrong. Not using the GUI. That's right folks, the Software Update from X allowed me to install the very safe libraries that the prompt told me were already installed. Guess they weren't as the Software Manager didn't see them, and installed them for me. That will teach me to try to avoid a GUI, won't it? Frustrating, I've run RH for about a year on a server, almost never seeing the GUI, and never had it tell me something was installed when it wasn't Now I just have to try to figure out what broke my modem in the process. KdeprintFax now returns invalid modem response when I try to send a fax. Ugh Why did I leave MS? :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Monday 09 December 2002 08:29, Ray Henry wrote: Yeah, well You know I was hoping for something better than Composer... That's an easy one..: Quanta Plus from KDE3 Now I just have to try to figure out what broke my modem in the process. KdeprintFax now returns invalid modem response when I try to send a fax. Ugh Why did I leave MS? :P Pick me! Pick me! I know this one... You left MS for something way better :-) I know MS is giving you less greef, but Mandrake gives you so much more besides greefs. After a few weeks of MDK'ing, I'll never go back to MS as my primary OS. Right now I only use MS for playing games and watching the DVD's that my stationary won't play. Give it a try! -- Martin L. Johansen Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) Spam will be forwared to /dev/null ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updating libraries
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 01:36, Martin L. Johansen wrote: That's an easy one..: Quanta Plus from KDE3 Yeah, that's what started all this trouble. Over 8 hours to finally get it installed, after having to figure out that Mandrake was lying to me. And now, more hours to get the modem working again :/ Pick me! Pick me! I know this one... You left MS for something way better :-) Actually, I was dual-booting with W98/RH 7.4, and didn't want to spend time getting all my toys working under RH. They work under MDK just fine. Too bad so much other stuff doesn't. I would probably been better off getting everything working under RH. I know MS is giving you less greef, but Mandrake gives you so much more besides greefs. It's got a long way to go before it's OS/2, though. At least for the end user. Sure, with server applications, Linux rocks. But to use as a desktop OS, it fails miserably at this point. After a few weeks of MDK'ing, I'll never go back to MS as my primary OS. Right now I only use MS for playing games and watching the DVD's that my stationary won't play. Give it a try! After a day of MDK'ing, I've experienced more frustration than I have since someone slipped a disk with the stoned.empire.monkey virus into my W95 machine about 5 years ago I didn't give up then, either. Although the experts told me after 48 hours I'd done everything possible, and that the only resolution was to buy a new HD. Kept at it, and salvaged that HD. And for what? A 1 GIG Quantum Fireball isn't worth anything now. Well, except that I've ghosted the HD from my father's Slackware router to it, for the next time he thinks things scrolling on the screen (trying to reconnect after the ISP has dropped) means he has to hit the reset button... :/ Yes, I am a bitter man. I miss my OS/2, and I want it back, dammit! :| Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
Or you could just download the latest kernel rpm and simnply rpm -Uvh kernelname.rpm Yes that would be possible also, but then he misses the chance to configure it to his own liking /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 05:23, Anders Lind wrote: Or you could just download the latest kernel rpm and simnply rpm -Uvh kernelname.rpm Yes that would be possible also, but then he misses the chance to configure it to his own liking Well I suppose he could download the .src rpm and configure it if he chooses, then build it to rpm, then install it. Anthony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
SV: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
Well I suppose he could download the .src rpm and configure it if he chooses, then build it to rpm, then install it. Yes, I think so toobut it would be unnecissary to build it to rpm unless he wants to save that exact configuration of course. /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On 01 Dec 2002 08:07:04 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I suppose he could download the .src rpm and configure it if he chooses, then build it to rpm, then install it. The operative and VERY IMPORTANT word here is INSTALL the new kernel. NEVER UPGRADE or use Uvh with a kernel. Charles I may not be able to walk, but I drive from a sitting position. -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 08:27, Charles A Edwards wrote: On 01 Dec 2002 08:07:04 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I suppose he could download the .src rpm and configure it if he chooses, then build it to rpm, then install it. The operative and VERY IMPORTANT word here is INSTALL the new kernel. NEVER UPGRADE or use Uvh with a kernel. Why would that be? I've done it many times without problem. Anthony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
Have downloaded the source kernel. Will attempt to install the new one soon. Wish me luck LOL Walt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel On 01 Dec 2002 08:07:04 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I suppose he could download the .src rpm and configure it if he chooses, then build it to rpm, then install it. The operative and VERY IMPORTANT word here is INSTALL the new kernel. NEVER UPGRADE or use Uvh with a kernel. Charles I may not be able to walk, but I drive from a sitting position. -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On 01 Dec 2002 08:24:53 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would that be? I've done it many times without problem. If there is a problem with your new kernel and it will not boot then you are screwed since you have no other kernel with which you can boot. If on the other hand you have installed your new kernel using -ivh then your old kernel still exist and is still bootable. Using -ivh for all kernel installs is standard practice. You have been lucky thus far but luck is fickle and has a bad habit of changing, mine usually from bad to worse. (-: Charles Sorry, no fortune this time. -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
If there is a problem with your new kernel and it will not boot then you are screwed since you have no other kernel with which you can boot. If on the other hand you have installed your new kernel using -ivh then your old kernel still exist and is still bootable. Using -ivh for all kernel installs is standard practice. You have been lucky thus far but luck is fickle and has a bad habit of changing, mine usually from bad to worse. (-: Ahh, got it, but I usually keep a boot disk around also. Never had to use it though. Anthony Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On 01 Dec 2002 09:27:51 -0500 Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh, got it, but I usually keep a boot disk around also. Never had to use it though. Be very glad because it would not work. If the disk was made from the old kernel then it no longer exists, i.e no img or anything else relating to that kernel will be found in /boot and the boot will fail when it cannot find said image. If a new kernel fails to boot then the chance are 99.9% that a boot disk made from that kernel will also fail with the same error as when directly booting the new kernel. Charles Fortune's real live weird band names #679: Stukas Over Bedrock -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: SV: [newbie] updating the kernel
On Sunday December 1 2002 08:27 am, Anthony Abby wrote: Charles wrote: If there is a problem with your new kernel and it will not boot then you are screwed since you have no other kernel with which you can boot. If on the other hand you have installed your new kernel using -ivh then your old kernel still exist and is still bootable. Using -ivh for all kernel installs is standard practice. You have been lucky thus far but luck is fickle and has a bad habit of changing, mine usually from bad to worse. (-: Ahh, got it, but I usually keep a boot disk around also. Never had to use it though. Anthony You'd be very lucky if the old bootdisk works, because when upgrading a kernel (-Uvh) you've changed more than just the kernel image (vmlinux). Charles is correct, never UPgrade, always INstall (-ivh). After the new kernel is installed, it should be a boot option, but the current kernel should be kept as the default till you've used the new one for a while without any issues. When/if you decide to make the new kernel the default, then make a bootdisk for it (not before). The best instructions for newbies for installing kernels is http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/index.html#ku Beginner's should read all four pages, including the trouble shooting section at the end before tryin to install a new kernel. IMO, the best method for compiling your own is to use Mandrake's source (eg, kernel-source-2.4.20-0.5mdk is the current one). One thing not stressed enough, first edit Makefile as suggested, backup .config and then you _must_ run 'make mrproper' as the first step. EG, cd /usr/src/linux cp .config config.save make mrproper cp config.save .config Then continue on with configuration and compiling ... -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
