Re: [newbie] Word Perfect conversion to Open Office
try: http://wp.openoffice.org/ robin wrote: Smith Joe wrote: Hi all, I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on a K6 III based machine and I am impressed by the overall comfort level. Having come from a DOS background I have a lot of WP51 files I would like to convert to use in OO... Any pointers to where a converter can be found? I don't know of any Free/Open Source converter. Star Office can convert WP files, and I believe this functionality will eventually be available for OO. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- Bob Read // Registered Linux user #287118 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect conversion to Open Office
Smith Joe wrote: Hi all, I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on a K6 III based machine and I am impressed by the overall comfort level. Having come from a DOS background I have a lot of WP51 files I would like to convert to use in OO... Any pointers to where a converter can be found? I don't know of any Free/Open Source converter. Star Office can convert WP files, and I believe this functionality will eventually be available for OO. Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word Perfect conversion to Open Office
Hi all, I recently installed Mandrake 9.0 on a K6 III based machine and I am impressed by the overall comfort level. Having come from a DOS background I have a lot of WP51 files I would like to convert to use in OO... Any pointers to where a converter can be found? Many thanksLysergius says,"Stay light, but trust gravity!" Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [newbie] Word processing Utility
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 08:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wednesday 09 July 2003 17:21, Aron Smith wrote: > > Hey gang does anyone know of an envelope printing utility > > for K-word or Open Office it would be nice to be able to print my > > envelopes instead of scrawling them in crayon > > openoffice writer --> Insert --> Envelope might do the job... > > b. Tried it clumsy, i will use it if nothing else is out there. what is needed is a utility as simple (Hey I'm simple) as the one in Micro$ux works > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processing Utility
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 17:21, Aron Smith wrote: > Hey gang does anyone know of an envelope printing utility > for K-word or Open Office it would be nice to be able to print my > envelopes instead of scrawling them in crayon openoffice writer --> Insert --> Envelope might do the job... b. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word processing Utility
Hey gang does anyone know of an envelope printing utility for K-word or Open Office it would be nice to be able to print my envelopes instead of scrawling them in crayon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote:
> Not to beat this to death, but I tried this littl experiment just now. I
> opened a document in AbiWord (0.99.7) that had a .aw extension (from
> Applixware). Went to "save as", and saved it as a .doc file [yes, it's
> one of the options, along with .rtf and a half dozen others]. I then
> closed AbiWord and opened StarOffice 6.0beta. Found the new file with a
> .doc extension and it was identified as a MSWord .doc (even at the little
> M$ symbol next to the file name). BTW, SO opened it instantly and
> flawlessly (SO can neither import or export .aw extensions). Try it if
> you have a 0.99.x version of AbiWord.
Hi Mike,
I agree, I don't want to beat this to death ;-). The version of AbiWord
I am using is 0.99.2 for Windows. If I save a file as .doc and then
open it in a plain text editor (like Notepad, etc.) it starts with:
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033
{\fonttbl
{\f0\froman\fcharset0\fprq2\fttruetype Times New Roman;}
Which, to me, indicates it is .rtf and not true .doc. It is possible
this changed after 0.99.2, but I don't think that was the intent.
I forget why AbiWord chose this course for the time being -- either the
underlying import / export library for word (wv, IIUC) cannot export
true .doc, or doesn't do it as well as .rtf.
Or maybe .rtf can be read, for example by more versions of Word than
.doc (as the .doc format has changed with some implementations of Word).
regards,
Randy Kramer
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Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:47:27 -0400 Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively: >> Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword >that I> was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will >in> .rtf). > >Mike, > >Sorry, what I said was poorly phrased. Actually, AFAIK, AbiWord cannot >export .doc, but exports .rtf. IIRC, users on the abiword lists >requested that the .rtf be given a .doc extension by default so that >Word can import what AbiWord exports. > >It's a pretty technical distinction that won't make any difference in >most cases. = Hi Randy, Not to beat this to death, but I tried this littl experiment just now. I opened a document in AbiWord (0.99.7) that had a .aw extension (from Applixware). Went to "save as", and saved it as a .doc file [yes, it's one of the options, along with .rtf and a half dozen others]. I then closed AbiWord and opened StarOffice 6.0beta. Found the new file with a .doc extension and it was identified as a MSWord .doc (even at the little M$ symbol next to the file name). BTW, SO opened it instantly and flawlessly (SO can neither import or export .aw extensions). Try it if you have a 0.99.x version of AbiWord. Cheers, :o) Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
--- Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &eacgr;&ggr;&rgr;&agr;&psgr;&egr;: > Michael Scottaline wrote: > > While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well > (if they're not to > > complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc > format. The others do it > > well, especially Star and Open Office. > > Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually > export in rtf > format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle > that quite well > (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). > > Randy Kramer > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Actually I did the following trick that worked. I open Word documents .doc extension with Kword and then if I want (I use the Kword 1.2.0 beta now it's really amazing with many new features, try it if you like) and then if I want to send it to someone who uses ^+)#)dozes I choose Save as... Text and then I write the name of the file adding .doc in the extension. MSWord behaves as follows. It actually opens the file as text with courrier fonts and then asks the user to save it in the latest Word format. Note that I've been trying this with Greek language docs and all work fine. Cheers Dimitris Ioannou from Greece Do You Yahoo!? &Agr;&pgr;&ogr;&kgr;&tgr;&eeacgr;&sgr;&tgr;&egr; &tgr;&eegr; &dgr;&ohgr;&rgr;&egr;&aacgr;&ngr; @yahoo.gr &dgr;&igr;&egr;&uacgr;&thgr;&ugr;&ngr;&sgr;&eegr; &sgr;&agr;&sfgr; &sgr;&tgr;&ogr; http://www.otenet.gr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
FemmeFatale wrote: > > shane wrote: > > > > On Saturday 27 April 2002 15:22, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing > > frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > > > > > women! > > > I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) > > > > the funny thing is i tried to get her to try linux for over 18 months. "no! > > i don't like it the mouse feels all wrong." turns out it is my roller ball > > she desn't like. > > > > after 3 weeks on linux her only coments were "wish it handled MSOffice files > > better, but it sure is fast!" > > > > 2 weeks later she spends a full day at work with high ups at IBM (she is a > > senior VP in tech audit at a major bank, IBM listens to her, why don't they > > listen to me?) telling them they should push linux on the desktop not just > > server cause she hates the man hours wasted on crashes in windows, and > > comes home to find i rebooted into windows to use the scanner. she sits > > down and says "why is my computer in windows? i _hate_ windows!" and > > reboots. > > > > women.. ;-) > > > > -- > > Yes don't bother trying to understand us. I'm convinced we're a new > species ;p > > That or we're just so highly evolved you can't hope to understand where > we're coming from Shane. > > And fwiw, my own lover has driven me nuts too...mostly b/c she acts more > like a man than anything else. Go figure. > > Femme > The solution, shane is to discuss upgrading her machine either to 8.2 with more scanner compatability (if it isn't already) or buy a Linux compatible scanner. 2 incomes should handle that. Michael -- Seleznick's Theory of Holistic Medicine: Ice Cream cures all ills. Temporarily. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:18:21 -0400 > Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively: > >Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf > >format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well > >(for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). > == > > Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword that I > was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will in > .rtf). Mike, Sorry, what I said was poorly phrased. Actually, AFAIK, AbiWord cannot export .doc, but exports .rtf. IIRC, users on the abiword lists requested that the .rtf be given a .doc extension by default so that Word can import what AbiWord exports. It's a pretty technical distinction that won't make any difference in most cases. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:18:21 -0400 Randy Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively: >Michael Scottaline wrote: >> While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to >> complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do >it> well, especially Star and Open Office. > >Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf >format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well >(for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). == Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword that I was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will in .rtf). Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
shane wrote: > > On Saturday 27 April 2002 15:22, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing > frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > > > women! > > I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) > > the funny thing is i tried to get her to try linux for over 18 months. "no! > i don't like it the mouse feels all wrong." turns out it is my roller ball > she desn't like. > > after 3 weeks on linux her only coments were "wish it handled MSOffice files > better, but it sure is fast!" > > 2 weeks later she spends a full day at work with high ups at IBM (she is a > senior VP in tech audit at a major bank, IBM listens to her, why don't they > listen to me?) telling them they should push linux on the desktop not just > server cause she hates the man hours wasted on crashes in windows, and > comes home to find i rebooted into windows to use the scanner. she sits > down and says "why is my computer in windows? i _hate_ windows!" and > reboots. > > women.. ;-) > > -- Yes don't bother trying to understand us. I'm convinced we're a new species ;p That or we're just so highly evolved you can't hope to understand where we're coming from Shane. And fwiw, my own lover has driven me nuts too...mostly b/c she acts more like a man than anything else. Go figure. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
There are several, but I've been happiest with Open Office, at openoffice.org. I should warn you that the Spanish version is on a slw server. Saludos, Warren Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:13:56 +0200 Javier de Lázaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi you all! > > I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as > Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote: > While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to > complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it > well, especially Star and Open Office. Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On 27 Apr 2002 20:14:13 -0400 Terry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled intuitively: >Javier, > >Supposedly Kword, Abiword, StarOffice and OpenOffice can all do that. >I've used them all with mixed success. Currently I would recommend >OpenOffice...it's quite powerful and will handle MS Excel and Powerpoint >files as well. It's on the 8.2 distro or you can get the latest build >from www.openoffice.org. === While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it well, especially Star and Open Office. Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Javier, Supposedly Kword, Abiword, StarOffice and OpenOffice can all do that. I've used them all with mixed success. Currently I would recommend OpenOffice...it's quite powerful and will handle MS Excel and Powerpoint files as well. It's on the 8.2 distro or you can get the latest build from www.openoffice.org. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 15:13, Javier de Lázaro wrote: > > Hi you all! > > I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as > Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. > > Any advice? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Saturday 27 April 2002 05:21 pm, shane wrote: > On Saturday 27 April 2002 13:45, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing > > frequency and transmitted to all open stations: > > > I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents > > > as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing > > > format. > > > > Star Office or Open Office > > or if you really have extra cash, go to the codeweavers site and look into > the crossover office setup > > http://codeweavers.com/home/ > > personally i am glad to have no MS stuff on my box (my wife dual boots, but > only to use a scanner, her box, not mine. :) but the choice is there women! I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) -- Gerald Waugh : Registered Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com Front Street Networks LLC - ph. 203.785.0699 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, United States of America 6:21pm up 37 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 0.95, 1.01, 1.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Star Office... Open Office On Saturday 27 April 2002 03:13 pm, Javier de Lázaro wrote: > Hi you all! > > I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as > Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. > > Any advice? > > Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168.]
Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168. Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 21:28:13 +0100 From: Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michel Clasquin wrote: > > On Thursday 31 January 2002 23:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > Brian Durant wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) We have a multilingual family. We need spell checking in Danish, > > > > French, German and Spanish. I might be interested in seeing Russian > > > > spell checking as well, though I don't use my Russian much these > > > > days. Does AbiWord provide all of this? > > > > > > > > > > Brian, I don't recall seeing any GNU word-processor (ABI, KWord) with > > built-in spell checking for danish. > > My version of Kword (d/led from cooker 2 days ago) can be set to use > either aspell or ispell, and Danish is available for both. How good the > dictionaries are I have no way of judging, but they are right here on my > system. You'll also need to install the danish locales rpm. > -- > Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm Thanks Michel, I didn't know that (either ;-)). Perhaps I should have mentioned to Brian another reason for my choice of Star Office : My wife "owns" the first partition on my hard disk (hda1) for her windows-stuff, because she refuses to know the first thing about computers. But nevertheless she uses Star Office for windows (it's on the same CD as well). This means that the rest of the family (all linuxer's) can acces stuff on her windows-partion (i.e. spreadsheets, letters etc..) so we all have acces to some common files on hda1. But not vice-versa. That way she can't - even accidentially - destroy anything on our linux-partitions. This setup has proven itself very handy when windows crashes (which happens every now and then), 'cause we use a linux-partition for backups. Everyone's happy. Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168.
On Thursday 31 January 2002 23:30, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Brian Durant wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2) We have a multilingual family. We need spell checking in Danish, > > > French, German and Spanish. I might be interested in seeing Russian > > > spell checking as well, though I don't use my Russian much these > > > days. Does AbiWord provide all of this? > > > > > > Brian, I don't recall seeing any GNU word-processor (ABI, KWord) with > built-in spell checking for danish. My version of Kword (d/led from cooker 2 days ago) can be set to use either aspell or ispell, and Danish is available for both. How good the dictionaries are I have no way of judging, but they are right here on my system. You'll also need to install the danish locales rpm. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC All in all, you're just another brick in the wall- Pink Floyd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168.
Brian Durant wrote: > Thanks for the info. I have a few questions, as I was unable to access the site > from here. Things aren't working 100% as most of Jakarta is flooded these days. > > 1) Does AbiWord work with Evolution for spell checking or is AbiWord part of a > different Office package that has a seperate e-mail client? My first answer might have been that AbiWord is not part of an office suite, but I forgot that it has been "adopted" by Gnome as their word processor (and part of their suite which includes gnumeric (spreadsheet) and whatever. (I am not a Gnome user -- I know they have a web browser (Galeon??) and I'm quite certain they have a mail client (could it be Evolution, or is that Ximian??). Anyway, AbiWord: * is cross platform. More often than not, I test under Windows * has spellchecking built in (using ispell or aspell (or both?? -- I get mixed up) > 2) We have a multilingual family. We need spell checking in Danish, French, > German and Spanish. I might be interested in seeing Russian spell checking as > well, though I don't use my Russian much these days. Does AbiWord provide all of > this? AbiWord is multilingual. A group of translators works to update the strings to various languages. Spanish, German, French, and Russian are definitely supported, and I am fairly certain there are spell checking dictionaries available for each of those. I'd bet Danish is supported, but just don't necessarily recall seeing it mentioned during discussions on the list. AbiWord also handles Chinese and similar ideographic (the right word?) languages, and bidirectional languages like Hebrew (and Arabic?). The bidirectional support is currently not part of the standard distribution, it is available as "debug" builds if you would need it. > 3) Is there an RPM package for Mandrake? Well, yes. It comes with Mandrake, but I'm not sure which version is there. On the website, there are rpms, but I'm not sure those are Mandrake specific. I have seen Mandrake builds appear on cooker, if you are familiar with the caveats about that. > 4) What dependencies are needed. I only run KDE normally these days, with > Easel's departure from the scene. I do however, still use Evolution (0.9 with > Mandrake 8 Power Pack). I'm not sure about the dependencies. Since some version of AbiWord has come with Mandrake 7.2 and 8.1 (and presumably others), I think most of the dependencies are built in to Mandrake. If you use a later version, you may need some newer stuff, but if you have any trouble finding it, let me know, or join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail list and ask there. AbiWord is not even dependent on Gnome -- there is a Gnome version which I'm sure has some dependencies, but there are also non-Gnome versions. (AbiWord works on Windows and Gnome or non-Gnome Linux, efforts are underway to port it to MacIntosh, were underway to port it to Beos (and were partially working, IIUC), and efforts have addressed other platforms which I can't recite off the top of my head.) AbiWord is currently at something like version 0.99-1, and the developer's efforts are focused on bug fixing prior to a 1.0 release. The 1.0 release will not handle tables, that is planned for 1.2 (six months to a year??). AbiWord does handle styles and embedded graphics. The native document format is XML (with its own DTD). It can import Word documents reasonably well (handling those features which it currently supports), it cannot export a native .doc file, but it can export .rtf which Word can import quite well. It also can import and export several other formats, including HTML and (simple) DocBook. It is open source. Randy Kramer (I'm not a "real" developer -- more a "wannabee" and sometime tester and commentor.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168.
Brian, PS: Have you tried AbiWord? It's my favorite for several reasons, including that I have an interest in helping to develop it. Randy Kramer Randy Kramer wrote: > Doesn't occur for me! I tried KWord on Mandrake 8.1 for the first time > after seeing your message, just tried one paragraph with the "plain > text" template and it wrapped fine. Of course, I see that your note > refers to Mandrake 8. > > I'm sure you're anxious to fix the problem for your daughter, but it > would be helpful if you eventually: > >* see if the problem is repeatable (what steps must you go through to > get it to repeat) >* see if it is in the bug list at kde.org >* if not, add it to the bug list with as much information as you can > provide Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processing on IBM Aptiva 2168.
Brian Durant wrote: > Has anyone on the list run into a margin over run problem in KWord with > either Mandrake 8 Intel or PPC? KWord doesn't wrap the text when the margin is > reached, instead the text disappears. Is this a known issue and is there an RPM > update that will fix it? I experience this on my daughter's IBM Aptiva 2168 with > the Mandrake 8 Power Pack installed. Brian, Doesn't occur for me! I tried KWord on Mandrake 8.1 for the first time after seeing your message, just tried one paragraph with the "plain text" template and it wrapped fine. Of course, I see that your note refers to Mandrake 8. I'm sure you're anxious to fix the problem for your daughter, but it would be helpful if you eventually: * see if the problem is repeatable (what steps must you go through to get it to repeat) * see if it is in the bug list at kde.org * if not, add it to the bug list with as much information as you can provide regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor
On Saturday 27 October 2001 20:34, Admin wrote: > Hello: > > Looking for a word processor to use under lm8.0, which needs to be able to > import word documents as well as save in ms word format(if possible). Any > suggestions? Thanks... > > Dexter KWord, Abiword, StarOffice can all do that. AbiWord I think does only word97 documents and it has some terrible fonts which pollute your font collection. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Word processor
On Monday 29 October 2001 11:09, you wrote: > Hi there! =) > > I'm just new to this mailing list and I hope you can help me with my > problem. > > Is there any Word Processor that can save output as PDF file? Shall we > say, I will make a document but I will save it as PDF file and can be > viewed like xpdf or Adobe Acrobat Reader. I've never needed to do this myself, just repeating what I saw someone else say a while ago: install a plain-vanilla PostScript printer, and do a Print To File from any wordprocessor to create a whatever.ps file. Then use the utility ps2pdf to convert it to whatever.pdf >From the ps2pdf man page: ps2pdf - Convert PostScript to PDF using ghostscript ps2pdf12 - Convert PostScript to PDF 1.2 (Acrobat 3-and- later compatible) using ghostscript ps2pdf13 - Convert PostScript to PDF 1.3 (Acrobat 4-and- later compatible) using ghostscript -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC Help Microsoft stamp out software piracy: give Linux to a friend today.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor and PDF
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The best way is use latex. Latex come with all the linux distributions, > and if it is actually difficult to learn when you start, in a few days > you will be very glad with it. > > Nowadays we have front-end very good to use latex in linux, for example > ktexmaker2 (htpp://xm1.net.free.fr/linux/index.html). You can easyli > export the file from tex format to postcrip and from postcrip to pdf. In > linux you have also xpdf to see the pdf file, or the linux version of > acroread. Also, depending on what format the files may be in now, AbiWord can import quite a few formats and can export Latex, so this might be an alternative way to get your files into Latex (or LyX or KLyX). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word processor and PDF
The best way is use latex. Latex come with all the linux distributions, and if it is actually difficult to learn when you start, in a few days you will be very glad with it. Nowadays we have front-end very good to use latex in linux, for example ktexmaker2 (htpp://xm1.net.free.fr/linux/index.html). You can easyli export the file from tex format to postcrip and from postcrip to pdf. In linux you have also xpdf to see the pdf file, or the linux version of acroread. I hope this will help you Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Word processor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >StarOffice 5.2 is a great piece of work. Its problems are bloat and the >integrated desktop (although I've grown used to it over time). Other than that >it is incredibly solid - I've written large documents on it over the period of a >week (i.e. open the entire time) and it never crashed on me. > >OpenOffice.org (that's its official name, since somebody has already copyrighted >"OpenOffice") is shaping up to be a fine successor to StarOffice 5.2. I've >always preferred StarOffice to MS Word, and OpenOffice.org is even better. >Release 638C has some stability problems, but otherwise it is almost complete. >Most importantly, it is actually usable. While it is bloated, I assume that this >is because it is still in development. Hi there! =) I'm just new to this mailing list and I hope you can help me with my problem. Is there any Word Processor that can save output as PDF file? Shall we say, I will make a document but I will save it as PDF file and can be viewed like xpdf or Adobe Acrobat Reader. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor
StarOffice 5.2 is a great piece of work. Its problems are bloat and the integrated desktop (although I've grown used to it over time). Other than that it is incredibly solid - I've written large documents on it over the period of a week (i.e. open the entire time) and it never crashed on me. OpenOffice.org (that's its official name, since somebody has already copyrighted "OpenOffice") is shaping up to be a fine successor to StarOffice 5.2. I've always preferred StarOffice to MS Word, and OpenOffice.org is even better. Release 638C has some stability problems, but otherwise it is almost complete. Most importantly, it is actually usable. While it is bloated, I assume that this is because it is still in development. On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:16:58 -0600, Joseph Braddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Star Office can also save in Word's native format. SO5.2 is pretty good. > SO6.0 and OpenOffice are very good. Any of the them will also let you > open/create/save Excel files, too. > > Joe > > On Sunday 28 October 2001 09:01 am, you wrote: > > Admin wrote: > > > Looking for a word processor to use under lm8.0, which needs to be able > > > to import word documents as well as save in ms word format(if possible). > > > Any suggestions? Thanks... > > > > AbiWord is a good word processor, it will be a great word processor. It > > is not finished yet. Currently, among other things: > > > > It can: > > -Open many Word files > > -Save files as .rtf which Word can read > > -Most "standard" word processing functions > > -Use styles > > -Do numbered and bulleted lists (with some bugs or enhancements > > required, last time I looked) > > > > It cannot (yet): > > -Do tables > > -Do footnotes > > -Do outlining > > > > I've tried StarOffice but haven't really used it. It seems to include > > more features than AbiWord at this time. I think it can do tables, I > > know it can do outlining (with a different UI than Word). > > > > Hope this helps, > > Randy Kramer -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor
Randy Kramer wrote: > > Admin wrote: > > Looking for a word processor to use under lm8.0, which needs to be able to > > import word documents as well as save in ms word format(if possible). Any > > suggestions? Thanks... > > AbiWord is a good word processor, it will be a great word processor. It > is not finished yet. Currently, among other things: > > It can: > -Open many Word files > -Save files as .rtf which Word can read > -Most "standard" word processing functions > -Use styles > -Do numbered and bulleted lists (with some bugs or enhancements > required, last time I looked) > > It cannot (yet): > -Do tables > -Do footnotes > -Do outlining > > I've tried StarOffice but haven't really used it. It seems to include > more features than AbiWord at this time. I think it can do tables, I > know it can do outlining (with a different UI than Word). Star Office does just about everything. Unfortunately versions 5.1 and 5.2 were bloatware, taking hours to load and monopolising the CPU. The beta of 6.0 looks very good, though - they ditched the browser and email client and the integrated desktop, and went for KDE integration instead. Of course, being beta it crashes occasionally, but no more than MS Office does normaly, in my experience. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor
Admin wrote: > Looking for a word processor to use under lm8.0, which needs to be able to > import word documents as well as save in ms word format(if possible). Any > suggestions? Thanks... AbiWord is a good word processor, it will be a great word processor. It is not finished yet. Currently, among other things: It can: -Open many Word files -Save files as .rtf which Word can read -Most "standard" word processing functions -Use styles -Do numbered and bulleted lists (with some bugs or enhancements required, last time I looked) It cannot (yet): -Do tables -Do footnotes -Do outlining I've tried StarOffice but haven't really used it. It seems to include more features than AbiWord at this time. I think it can do tables, I know it can do outlining (with a different UI than Word). Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Word processor
Abiword! -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Admin |Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:35 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Word processor | | |Hello: | |Looking for a word processor to use under lm8.0, which needs |to be able to |import word documents as well as save in ms word format(if |possible). Any |suggestions? Thanks... | |Dexter | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word of Advice
I agree with you and I did not know that about the DB-9 serial connection. Although, right now the economy and market growth shows it yet dial up modems will limitation as cable, DSL, and satelite broadband become more and more available. I still use a dial up and the only broadband available in my area is cable which is being rolled out January 1st. Till then Hayes is grace. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word of advice
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 02:10 am, you wrote: > I too was in the same boat as you about a month and a half ago. I > had Sound Blaster internal PCI modem. I tried the software and the > settings. It was just easier to sell the card and pick up an > external hardware modem. Linux used it without a hitch and life got > interesting in surfing the web through Linux's eyes. > > The cost is about twice then a internal. Mine is a Hayes advertised > to work under Windows and Linux. Ran about $75.00 and well worth > the all the headaches. I don't mean to discourage you from doing it > otherwise I just wish to spare you the trouble, especially if you > completely new to Linux like myself. > I'd have to agree. I use a Modem Blaster External on my Linux box and it has worked great so far. One thing that should be stressed here is that you should get one that uses a standard DB-9 serial connection. Most of these are hardware controller based. Do *NOT* get a USB external modem. If you must have an internal modem, you might be better off with ISA, because today's PCI modems are mostly of the winmodem variety. I personally see very little need for PCI modems anyways, other than Intel's push to kill ISA. You are simply not moving enough data to justify a bus witdh greater than 16 bits. - John > Good luck. > > --- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Word of advice
I too was in the same boat as you about a month and a half ago. I had Sound Blaster internal PCI modem. I tried the software and the settings. It was just easier to sell the card and pick up an external hardware modem. Linux used it without a hitch and life got interesting in surfing the web through Linux's eyes. The cost is about twice then a internal. Mine is a Hayes advertised to work under Windows and Linux. Ran about $75.00 and well worth the all the headaches. I don't mean to discourage you from doing it otherwise I just wish to spare you the trouble, especially if you completely new to Linux like myself. Good luck. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word
Personally I love vi. I actually use ViM, but it's the same thing. I only use 3 editors. vim gvim (ViM just a GUI from of it. It's kinda nice.) nedit (Which is a lot like EditPad, for those of you who know what EditPad is. I hope he makes a *NIX clone of EditPad one day!) I've heard a lot of people like mcedit, and slew of other things, I like the basics. I type about 80 words a minute, so vi is perfect for me. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 17021091 - "Real Men Use Vi!" Uptime: 3:38PM up 11 days, 2:40, 4 users, load averages: 0.17, 0.07, 0.02 | Hey guys, | | Can you tell me what good editors there are besides vi, pico..blah!, | abiword and kword?? | | | Thank ya much! | | | Andrew | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word
Andrew wrote: > Can you tell me what good editors there are besides vi, pico..blah!, > abiword and kword?? nedit -- I've sometimes heard it described as a good editor for Windows refugees. Has several nice features including soft wrap, syntax highlighting, macros, delimiter matching, regular expression search and replace. Looks a little clunky because it uses the Motif / Lessif widgets. The search and replace was a little unintuitive for me, even without the regular expressions. Different shortcut keys, different philosophy -- search window disappears after each search unless you click the "Keep Dialog" button. But, a few days ago I had to do a complicated search and replace and chose to do it in nedit instead of Word -- worked great after a little bit of learning. Still being actively developed -- I recently posted a question about folding and seemed to receive a rather enthusiastic reception -- sounds like folding is a reasonable possibility in the fairly near future (but not till after they finish their current maintenance release). nedit was in Mandrake 7.2, I presume it's in 8 and 8.1. Mailing list is at [EMAIL PROTECTED], website at www.nedit.org. Some of the documentation at the web site is better than the built in help. Hope this helps, Randy Kramer PS: If you can't tell, nedit is my favorite editor on Linux, after trying out several for greater or lesser periods, including kedit, kwrite, some others including vim and emacs (very briefly). Cool Edit sounds neat, but I didn't immediately find the way to change to black letters on a white background, so just let it go. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Word
type: mcedit /path/to/somefile I love mcedit, and most of the time I use it regardless if I am in x or a console,, its about as good a simple txt editor can be in console, and pretty much as good as most of the X editors as well. its also smaller and faster then most of the others... mcedit is the editor part of MC (Midnight Commander) you may have to install mc first... (if it isn't already) MC is that the Gnome GMC was based on... GMC is not as nice as far as I am concerned. If I can't get mcedit, I look for pico, (which you obviously know about) pico is my second choise only because I used pine for a long time. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2001 3:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Word Hey guys, Can you tell me what good editors there are besides vi, pico..blah!, abiword and kword?? Thank ya much! Andrew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
On Sunday 27 May 2001 04:38, Charles A. Punch wrote: > Michel Clasquin wrote: > > Last week I reported that the version of WP8 on the cheapbytes > > applications cd worked fine with mdk7.2. I just upgraded to 8.0 and .. > > nada. > > Did you try installing " libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm " for backward > compatability? I amd a at least one other newbie had the same problem > and we got this advice from this list. I saw it the first time, and saved it, thanks, but I'm keeping it as an absolute last resort. I already have a later version of libc5 on my system, and if I downgrade that, what *else* is going to break? Plus, will I now have to reinstall that file every time I upgrade Linux? I thought this kind of crap only happened in windows ... Guess I'll have to look for a way to at least be able to *view* and maybe cut-n-paste from wordperfect files and do my actual work in SOffice/KWord/AbiWord. > > ShalomOut > Chal -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
Last week I reported that the version of WP8 on the cheapbytes applications cd worked fine with mdk7.2. I just upgraded to 8.0 and .. nada. I can open a terminal, cd to the wp directory, take an ls to see if the file xwp really is there, but ./xwp just gives a "no such file". The dependencies are so broken that I can't even reinstall this package - the install script just can't find *anything* I'm d/ling the wp8 file from Corel now - will let you know. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
s wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 May 2001 07:09 am, you wrote: > > Charles Wackerman wrote: > > > I recently bought a copy of Corel's WordPerfect 8 for Linux. I am using > > > Mandrake 7.2 OS. On three different occasions I have followed the > > > instructions printed in the QuickStart install guide and on all three > > > occasions I have been unable to install -- I get a message "intiger > > > expression expected" followed by Graphic Install Device failed, followed > > > by a long list of files that are either "unavailable" or won't install. > > > > > > My nephew tried the disk on his (bite my tongue) Red Hat system and it > > > installed with no problem, but I simply cannot get it to work for me. > > > Has anyone else out there had a similar problem? > > > > I used a version of WP 8 that came free with the purchase of a book (the > > Wordperfect Bible). It worked fine in 7.1, but in 7.2 I had a similar > > experience to yours i.e, it would not install. I thought it was becuase > > the version I had was not complete, but evidently there is more to it > > than that. If you find out any workaround or solution, please let me > > know. I will do the same. > > > > ShalomOut > > Chal > > > > Yah Shua Messiach is Sovereign Shalom > > Dudes, > install libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm and :-) > > -s thanx for the help, :~) I installed it and got a conflict with another lib file. I unchecked "check dependancies and installed it anyway and so far it seems to work just fine.I am using 7.2 and planning to do a fresh install of 8.0 as soon as my cheapbytes order comes in, so I am taking chances and experimenting. ShalomOut Chal
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
Michel Clasquin wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 May 2001 14:09, Chales A. Punch wrote about Re: [newbie] Word > Perfect 8 install problem that ... > > Charles Wackerman wrote: > > > > I used a version of WP 8 that came free with the purchase of a book (the > > Wordperfect Bible). It worked fine in 7.1, but in 7.2 I had a similar > > experience to yours i.e, it would not install. I thought it was becuase > > My version came from CheapBytes' Applications CDRom and it installed and > works fine on 7.2. Will it work in 8.0? I'll be able to tell you by Sunday! > >Thanx in advance for the info, I appreciate it. I finally have enough ram to run Star >Office (512mb) but I really miss the fonts in wp8. > ShalomOut Chal Yah Shua Messiach is Sovereign Shalom >
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
On Tuesday 22 May 2001 07:09 am, you wrote: > Charles Wackerman wrote: > > I recently bought a copy of Corel's WordPerfect 8 for Linux. I am using > > Mandrake 7.2 OS. On three different occasions I have followed the > > instructions printed in the QuickStart install guide and on all three > > occasions I have been unable to install -- I get a message "intiger > > expression expected" followed by Graphic Install Device failed, followed > > by a long list of files that are either "unavailable" or won't install. > > > > My nephew tried the disk on his (bite my tongue) Red Hat system and it > > installed with no problem, but I simply cannot get it to work for me. > > Has anyone else out there had a similar problem? > > I used a version of WP 8 that came free with the purchase of a book (the > Wordperfect Bible). It worked fine in 7.1, but in 7.2 I had a similar > experience to yours i.e, it would not install. I thought it was becuase > the version I had was not complete, but evidently there is more to it > than that. If you find out any workaround or solution, please let me > know. I will do the same. > > ShalomOut > Chal > > Yah Shua Messiach is Sovereign Shalom Dudes, install libc5-1.0-2.i386.rpm and :-) -s
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
On Tuesday 22 May 2001 14:09, Chales A. Punch wrote about Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem that ... > Charles Wackerman wrote: > > I used a version of WP 8 that came free with the purchase of a book (the > Wordperfect Bible). It worked fine in 7.1, but in 7.2 I had a similar > experience to yours i.e, it would not install. I thought it was becuase My version came from CheapBytes' Applications CDRom and it installed and works fine on 7.2. Will it work in 8.0? I'll be able to tell you by Sunday! -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
Charles Wackerman wrote: > > I recently bought a copy of Corel's WordPerfect 8 for Linux. I am using > Mandrake 7.2 OS. On three different occasions I have followed the > instructions printed in the QuickStart install guide and on all three > occasions I have been unable to install -- I get a message "intiger > expression expected" followed by Graphic Install Device failed, followed by a > long list of files that are either "unavailable" or won't install. > > My nephew tried the disk on his (bite my tongue) Red Hat system and it > installed with no problem, but I simply cannot get it to work for me. Has > anyone else out there had a similar problem? I used a version of WP 8 that came free with the purchase of a book (the Wordperfect Bible). It worked fine in 7.1, but in 7.2 I had a similar experience to yours i.e, it would not install. I thought it was becuase the version I had was not complete, but evidently there is more to it than that. If you find out any workaround or solution, please let me know. I will do the same. ShalomOut Chal Yah Shua Messiach is Sovereign Shalom
[newbie] Word Perfect 8 install problem
I recently bought a copy of Corel's WordPerfect 8 for Linux. I am using Mandrake 7.2 OS. On three different occasions I have followed the instructions printed in the QuickStart install guide and on all three occasions I have been unable to install -- I get a message "intiger expression expected" followed by Graphic Install Device failed, followed by a long list of files that are either "unavailable" or won't install. My nephew tried the disk on his (bite my tongue) Red Hat system and it installed with no problem, but I simply cannot get it to work for me. Has anyone else out there had a similar problem? Does anyone have an suggestions? I have a great many documents on disk from earlier editions of DOS or Windows 3.1 versions of WordPerfest which I would like to be able to access and this seems to be the only way to do so without loosing format etc. Help and Thankis in advance! -- Charles Wackerman Carthage, NC e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] url http://home.earthlink.net/~cwackerm ICBM coordinates of my desk 35:21.379 N/ 079:18.296 W
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect for Linux
On Friday 20 April 2001 18:07, you wrote about [newbie] Word Perfect for Linux that ... > Went to Corel.com to see about another version of WP. > There are none. > > Went to rpmfind.net to see about 'libm.so.5,' no such file listed under > 'l.' > > Any ideas on what to do? > No, i'd prefer not to go back to RH. FWIW, I ordered a CD from cheapbytes called Applications Archive Edition 1. WordPerfect is on it and while the installation routine is a little cumbersome, it is fully documented and that version of WP8 works fine on my MDK7.2 system -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
[newbie] Word Perfect for Linux
I've used WP 8 with RH 6.2 now for over a year. Now that I switched to Mandrake 7.2, WP will not install. During installation, I get an: 'can't load library libm.so.5' error message. Went to Corel.com to see about another version of WP. There are none. Went to rpmfind.net to see about 'libm.so.5,' no such file listed under 'l.' Any ideas on what to do? No, i'd prefer not to go back to RH. cedric
Re: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
On Thursday 29 March 2001 11:25, Jennifer Davis wrote: > Yes, I used abi to read and edit word files. One feature it lacks that I > do miss are the styles. If you are merely reading, it should not be a And it seems to not have tables, either. For what it's worth, I read my resume, which I originally created in Star Office format, exported to Word 97 .doc format, into abiword as well as the newest koffice / kword I built from cvs last night. Abiword reads it IMHO better than does kword, even though it doesn't have tables (it centers the table information on mutilple lines.) Abiword is a bit old as well; it was built from a ximian Gnome install I did a few months back and I haven't updated yet. Kword lost the tables entirely (they are pretty simple, just a two-element table with company centered in one half of the table and the dates centered in the other half. Kword shows part of the table at the top of the document, then 0's followed by white space where the tables should go in the document. Not only that, but the bullet list on the second page was obliterated into one line of gibberish. > Jennifer Davis > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] Word attachments in emails
Jeff: StarOffice is included in the store-bought versions of Mandrake, too. -- cmg Benjamin Sher wrote: > > Dear Jeff: > > Best way to see Word documents in Linux is to download StarOffice, which > is not only a great office suite in its own right, but is known for its > superlative conversion of MSWord documents. To get StarOffice, go to > www.sun.com, more specifically > > http://www.sun.com/staroffice/ > > and download for free the latest StarOffice 5.2 version > > Warning: It's a huge download (97 megs compressed, 250 megs > uncompressed). However, you can also order it on CD for $10 from Sun > (just the CD, no manual included). > > Benjamin > > -- > Sher's Russian Web > http://www.websher.net > Benjamin and Anna Sher > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Word attachments in emails
Dear Jeff: Best way to see Word documents in Linux is to download StarOffice, which is not only a great office suite in its own right, but is known for its superlative conversion of MSWord documents. To get StarOffice, go to www.sun.com, more specifically http://www.sun.com/staroffice/ and download for free the latest StarOffice 5.2 version Warning: It's a huge download (97 megs compressed, 250 megs uncompressed). However, you can also order it on CD for $10 from Sun (just the CD, no manual included). Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Word attachments in emails
On Thursday 05 April 2001 14:55, you wrote: > I sometimes get attachments of documents in MS Word format. What do I have > to do to make such attachments open up in Linux in a form I can see them? > > I am using Mandrake 7.2 and also have WP for Linux free edition installed. > > Thank you. > > Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Registered Linux user 183185 The best filters are probably on StarOffice bloatware. AbiWord will also open Word97 files pretty well, but gets confused on Word2000 (probably cause of the animated, talking paper clip;-) Civileme
[newbie] Word attachments in emails
I sometimes get attachments of documents in MS Word format. What do I have to do to make such attachments open up in Linux in a form I can see them? I am using Mandrake 7.2 and also have WP for Linux free edition installed. Thank you. Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
On Thursday 29 March 2001 12:04 pm, you purportedly scrawled: > You may still be able to get the CD from http://www.lsl.com. > I believe it goes for $1.89. > > Barry :-) > > Thanx Barry! I also ordered some other stuff- they're kinda like cheapbytes but easier to type-[:-)
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
You may still be able to get the CD from http://www.lsl.com. I believe it goes for $1.89. Barry :-) On Thu, 29 March 2001, Jennifer Davis wrote: > > You will find that abiword, which comes with 7.1 and 7.2 is pretty good > too. > > A 99MB download of Star Office may be too much for some computers > > > Jennifer Davis > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > > > Do you run X? > > In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from > > http://www.sun.com ) > > > > C. > > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > > > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > > > then > > > Empty output from child filter > > > > > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > > > -- > > > -m- > > > > > > > Surfree.com - nationwide internet access http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
I am not sure what your goal is, but StarOffice is able to read just about all M$ Word documents. KOffice is also able to read M$ Word documents. Eric On Thursday 29 March 2001 10:41, you wrote: > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > then > Empty output from child filter > > Any idea how to do this in linux?
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
Yes, I used abi to read and edit word files. One feature it lacks that I do miss are the styles. If you are merely reading, it should not be a concern. Jennifer Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > Does abi read word files? > > C. > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Jennifer Davis > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 20:29 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > You will find that abiword, which comes with 7.1 and 7.2 is pretty good > > too. > > > > A 99MB download of Star Office may be too much for some computers > > > > > > Jennifer Davis > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > > > > > Do you run X? > > > In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from > > > http://www.sun.com ) > > > > > > C. > > > > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > > > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > > > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > > > > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > > > > then > > > > Empty output from child filter > > > > > > > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > > > > -- > > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
Does abi read word files? C. > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Jennifer Davis > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 20:29 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > You will find that abiword, which comes with 7.1 and 7.2 is pretty good > too. > > A 99MB download of Star Office may be too much for some computers > > > Jennifer Davis > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > > > Do you run X? > > In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from > > http://www.sun.com ) > > > > C. > > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > > > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > > > then > > > Empty output from child filter > > > > > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > > > -- > > > -m- > > > > > > > > >
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
or try wine which will let you open word in linux ( not sure if it works with word2000 completely but I heard you can do it this way) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > Do you run X? > In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from > http://www.sun.com ) > > C. > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > > then > > Empty output from child filter > > > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > > -- > > -m- > > > >
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
You will find that abiword, which comes with 7.1 and 7.2 is pretty good too. A 99MB download of Star Office may be too much for some computers Jennifer Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Claudio wrote: > Do you run X? > In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from > http://www.sun.com ) > > C. > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > > then > > Empty output from child filter > > > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > > -- > > -m- > > > >
RE: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
Do you run X? In that case just open the file with Staroffice (download free from http://www.sun.com ) C. > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens michael > Verzonden: donderdag 29 maart 2001 19:42 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: [newbie] Word doc reader in linux? > > > I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error > /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found > then > Empty output from child filter > > Any idea how to do this in linux? > -- > -m- >
[newbie] Word doc reader in linux?
I am trying to read a .doc file. In mc, I hit f3 and get : Error /tmp/mcextUXczIm: word2x: command not found then Empty output from child filter Any idea how to do this in linux? -- -m-
Re: [newbie] Word Compatibility of - Kwork - Abiword - WP - StartOffice - etc
Neville Cobb wrote (in Part): > > Abiword or Kwork can open Ms Word files. Or you could just save them in RTF > > which can be opened by anything. I my self am at Sixform an my school have a > > windows NT network with word 2000 and there is not a drop of windows on my > > box anymore. > I've been using StarOffice spreadsheet and word. I use StarOffice and > save as word97 and take it to work. I have even used word templates and > they appear to be reasonable although not 100% compatibility (I guess > you'd expect that). I use a variety of MSWord and Excel platforms at a variety of different sites and find that for WP docs the simplest system is to use RTF formatting while saving. For Excel I would normally save in Excel 5 format, while one does lose 'some' of the formatting data, at least formulae, rows and columns are correctly rendered. > I've had limited success with StarOffice spreadsheet. I can read Excel97 > quite reasonably but going the other way I loose formatting such as > color and some font attributes (but it was done). To be expected I guess as most of these compatibity issues are the result of time consuming reverse-engineering. > I have had no joy in transferring a spreadsheet to Kword it simply just Haven't tried that as my transfer scheme relies on earlier versioning. > The only thing that really limits the usability and inter changeability > of StarOffice files is the lack of true type font access straight out of > the box. I've been trying recently to add true type to StarOffice and it > is not very easy to do. Having font compatibility with Word and Excel > fonts would be a bonus. I know with Mandrake you can import ttf but this > makes it available only to X and not StarOfice. The Mandrake function to > make ttf available to X is great but it would be much better if it could > flow on into StarOffice. Have you noted that when you bring an Excel sheet into Starcalc that TTF font rendering and information _IS_ retained and remains so when you re-export. What I have routinely done is 'convert' all Word docs to RTF and spreadsheets to Excel 5 formats. The rtf conversion has been most successful on docs up to 512kb. Most of the 'sheets are much less than that and so far I haven't had any problems. A few weeks ago Larry Marshall and I discussed this problem on this list. I managed to locate a utility to 'convert' TTF to Adobe-type fonts. I've since re-installed my system from scratch and lost the util. As I recall, I found it via a Google search on 'font converter' Cheers John -- ICQ#: 89345394 Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
Re: [newbie] Word Compatibility of - Kwork - Abiword - WP - StartOffice - etc
> I've been using StarOffice spreadsheet and word. I use StarOffice and > save as word97 and take it to work. I have even used word templates and > they appear to be reasonable although not 100% compatibility (I guess > you'd expect that). > > I've had limited success with StarOffice spreadsheet. I can read Excel97 > quite reasonably but going the other way I loose formatting such as > color and some font attributes (but it was done). > > I have had no joy in transferring a spreadsheet to Kword it simply just > locks up Kword - Whereas Gnumeric will take it across quite well (that > is exporting to EXcel97 and importing that by Kword and Gnumeric). > Right i don't know if you just made a mistake when writing the email but Kword isn't a spead sheet so it doesn't have support for excel files. Try Kspead it has a filter for Ms excel 97 files. > The only thing that really limits the usability and inter changeability > of StarOffice files is the lack of true type font access straight out of > the box. I've been trying recently to add true type to StarOffice and it > is not very easy to do. Having font compatibility with Word and Excel > fonts would be a bonus. I know with Mandrake you can import ttf but this > makes it available only to X and not StarOfice. The Mandrake function to > make ttf available to X is great but it would be much better if it could > flow on into StarOffice. I Koffice programs can use all the fonts that are aviable to KDE, and a I think that KDE can use all the fonts that X has. > > If any one could prove me wrong with the font part I'd be extremely > grateful. > Nev > > Nev > Mark Hillary
Re: [newbie] Word Compatibility of - Kwork - Abiword - WP - StartOffice - etc
Rick Commo wrote: > > Ok... I'll at least change the subject name before I ask the question or > Mark and Roman will personally fly out here and get me!! > > Mark raises an interesting possibility. The question is *how* compatible. > Does any of the readership have any *real* experience. I am looking for > both pro and con. I remember that a while back (6-12 months) there was a > review of StarOffice in one of the Linux mags and the area of so called > compatibility was not what I would have hoped for. > > Cheers and Happy New Year to all, > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hillary > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 12:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux > > Abiword or Kwork can open Ms Word files. Or you could just save them in RTF > which can be opened by anything. I my self am at Sixform an my school have a > windows NT network with word 2000 and there is not a drop of windows on my > box anymore. I've been using StarOffice spreadsheet and word. I use StarOffice and save as word97 and take it to work. I have even used word templates and they appear to be reasonable although not 100% compatibility (I guess you'd expect that). I've had limited success with StarOffice spreadsheet. I can read Excel97 quite reasonably but going the other way I loose formatting such as color and some font attributes (but it was done). I have had no joy in transferring a spreadsheet to Kword it simply just locks up Kword - Whereas Gnumeric will take it across quite well (that is exporting to EXcel97 and importing that by Kword and Gnumeric). The only thing that really limits the usability and inter changeability of StarOffice files is the lack of true type font access straight out of the box. I've been trying recently to add true type to StarOffice and it is not very easy to do. Having font compatibility with Word and Excel fonts would be a bonus. I know with Mandrake you can import ttf but this makes it available only to X and not StarOfice. The Mandrake function to make ttf available to X is great but it would be much better if it could flow on into StarOffice. If any one could prove me wrong with the font part I'd be extremely grateful. Nev Nev
[newbie] Word Compatibility of - Kwork - Abiword - WP - StartOffice - etc
Ok... I'll at least change the subject name before I ask the question or Mark and Roman will personally fly out here and get me!! Mark raises an interesting possibility. The question is *how* compatible. Does any of the readership have any *real* experience. I am looking for both pro and con. I remember that a while back (6-12 months) there was a review of StarOffice in one of the Linux mags and the area of so called compatibility was not what I would have hoped for. Cheers and Happy New Year to all, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hillary Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] gates gets Linux Abiword or Kwork can open Ms Word files. Or you could just save them in RTF which can be opened by anything. I my self am at Sixform an my school have a windows NT network with word 2000 and there is not a drop of windows on my box anymore.
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Tagbo Ekwueme-Okoli wrote: >Does know how to install WordPerfect 8 for linux on LM 7.2? > >Thanks Untar the install files, change to root, run ./runme and make sure you do not install from a dir that has spaces in the name. Paul -- To do the exact opposite is a form of copying too. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31
[newbie] Word Perfect 8
Does know how to install WordPerfect 8 for linux on LM 7.2? Thanks
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
> > also don't know nothing 'bout history. > > don't know much about biology. > > don't know much about a science book. [...] Heh...I love that song ;-) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Adrian Smith wrote: Thanks Adrian. That is encouraging. Hey, but you do know about poetry. > hey Len -- > i noticed you mentioning Applix below. > i installed Applix Office 5 on my 7.1 & 7.2 boxes with no problems > and no seg faults when it runs. > and the printing under 7.2/CUPS is great. > i just thought i'd mention that to you -- so you know it "should" work. =) > i'm no linux/applix guru, but if i can assist you anyhowz in getting it to work > let me know. > i haven't installed StarOffice under my 7.2 box yet, > so i don't know nothing 'bout that. > also don't know nothing 'bout history. > don't know much about biology. > don't know much about a science book. > don't know much about the french i took. > but i do know that linux rocks > no blue screen of death, no untimely locks. > what a wonderful world, my pinguin > > > Adrian Smith > 'de telepone dude > Telecom Dept. > x 7042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Len Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12:11:37 AM 12/13/00 >>> > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, John Batt wrote: > > > Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to > > install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 it > > won't install. > > > Yes, neither the graphical install or text based install will work. It > worked fine in RedHat 6.1. I also had trouble with Applix. That installs > but seg faults when it is run. ??? > > StarOffice looks good but it is impossible to get it to print using the > CUPS, via xpp or whatever. I have to reboot RH6.1 to do any word > processing. Damned annoying. > > > > > > -- Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 West Court www.tarazed.demon.co.uk The Thistle Foundation Edinburgh EH16 4EB 0131-661 3648
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
hey Len -- i noticed you mentioning Applix below. i installed Applix Office 5 on my 7.1 & 7.2 boxes with no problems and no seg faults when it runs. and the printing under 7.2/CUPS is great. i just thought i'd mention that to you -- so you know it "should" work. =) i'm no linux/applix guru, but if i can assist you anyhowz in getting it to work let me know. i haven't installed StarOffice under my 7.2 box yet, so i don't know nothing 'bout that. also don't know nothing 'bout history. don't know much about biology. don't know much about a science book. don't know much about the french i took. but i do know that linux rocks no blue screen of death, no untimely locks. what a wonderful world, my pinguin Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Len Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12:11:37 AM 12/13/00 >>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, John Batt wrote: > Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to > install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 it > won't install. > Yes, neither the graphical install or text based install will work. It worked fine in RedHat 6.1. I also had trouble with Applix. That installs but seg faults when it is run. ??? StarOffice looks good but it is impossible to get it to print using the CUPS, via xpp or whatever. I have to reboot RH6.1 to do any word processing. Damned annoying. > > -- Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 West Court www.tarazed.demon.co.uk The Thistle Foundation Edinburgh EH16 4EB 0131-661 3648
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, John Batt wrote: > Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to > install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 it > won't install. > Yes, neither the graphical install or text based install will work. It worked fine in RedHat 6.1. I also had trouble with Applix. That installs but seg faults when it is run. ??? StarOffice looks good but it is impossible to get it to print using the CUPS, via xpp or whatever. I have to reboot RH6.1 to do any word processing. Damned annoying. > > -- Len Lawrence[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 West Court www.tarazed.demon.co.uk The Thistle Foundation Edinburgh EH16 4EB 0131-661 3648
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8
Yep, couldn't do it. Can't remember the error, so installed StarOffice, but... -s On Monday 11 December 2000 22:50, you wrote: > Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to > install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 > it won't install.
[newbie] Word Perfect 8
Is there anyone else out there having trouble getting WordPerfect 8 to install in LM 7.2. I had it working great in 7.0 but after installing 7.2 it won't install.
Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
Very nice. Roman Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > > Cool web pages! I was going to read the review, but got side tracked on how > nice the web designing was - just wanted to tell you. > > Mike > > > i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and > > some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for > > sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something > > ported. i found > > it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so > > far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: > > > > > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm > > > > > >later dayz.. > > > > > >Adrian Smith > > >'de telepone dude > > >Telecom Dept. > > >x 7042 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
RE: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
Cool web pages! I was going to read the review, but got side tracked on how nice the web designing was - just wanted to tell you. Mike > i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and > some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for > sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something > ported. i found > it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so > far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: > > > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm > > > >later dayz.. > > > >Adrian Smith > >'de telepone dude > >Telecom Dept. > >x 7042 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
wow - if you fall from that high horse you're on you might seriously injure yourself ! What does a user review of a product have to do with knowing how the platform works ? Only an "expert" is allowed an opinion? If you tell someone you like a movie, it has nice special effects but the acting sucks, should you keep quiet unless you are a trained actor and special effects wizard ? Anyone can discuss how they like or don't like a product - if they want to post their opinions on their own website, go for it. Either disagree with the review or agree - how you can make comments like that about someone's product review is beyond me. Linux is all about being open and sharing opinions and knowledge. my 2 cents philomena On Friday 24 November 2000 11:22 pm, you wrote: > At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote: > /snip/ > i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and > some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for > sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported. i found > it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so > > far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm > > > >later dayz.. > > > >Adrian Smith > >'de telepone dude > >Telecom Dept. > >x 7042 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > /snip/ lotsa quote > > Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from > Linux. And do. > I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the > review), > cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much. > > I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a > review of > serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs. > (To > the extent that the system allows control, of course.) > > It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I > dislike > because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows. I know > nothing > about actually working on the MAC. You seem to know fairly little of > actually working in LINUX. I would suggest that you save your reviews > until you are competent > in the environment, and then I will welcome them. > > --dm
Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
are you stupid? what does accessing the net have to do with using a word processor? you must be young. if you wish to engage in flame war email me privately & do not waste bandwidth. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Doug McGarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4:22:29 PM 11/24/00 >>> At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote: /snip/ i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported. i found it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm > >later dayz.. > >Adrian Smith >'de telepone dude >Telecom Dept. >x 7042 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > /snip/ lotsa quote Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from Linux. And do. I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the review), cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much. I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a review of serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs. (To the extent that the system allows control, of course.) It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I dislike because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows. I know nothing about actually working on the MAC. You seem to know fairly little of actually working in LINUX. I would suggest that you save your reviews until you are competent in the environment, and then I will welcome them. --dm
Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
At 14:00 11/23/2000 -0700, you wrote: /snip/ i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported. i found it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: > >http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm > >later dayz.. > >Adrian Smith >'de telepone dude >Telecom Dept. >x 7042 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > /snip/ lotsa quote Yes, I am sending this from W98/Eudora, but I CAN ACCESS the net from Linux. And do. I wonder whether a review from someone who, by his own admission (in the review), cannot access the Internet from Linux is worth much. I have my own troubles with linux, and I would not presume to present a review of serious software unless I had full control of the system on which it runs. (To the extent that the system allows control, of course.) It would be like me running a review of some program on a MAC, a machine I dislike because of its "I know better than you" attitude, like Windows. I know nothing about actually working on the MAC. You seem to know fairly little of actually working in LINUX. I would suggest that you save your reviews until you are competent in the environment, and then I will welcome them. --dm
Re: [newbie] word processors and my Applix review at last
*haha* i agree with you on this one. i'm a writer & a good word processor is pretty important to me. so far this has been my only disappointment with the world of Linux. i also agree with your assesments below. you & i are probably the only 2 people here who don't have a shrine in the honor of StarOffice. (that's a joke, for those of you who need to be told so) i mean SO is ok, considering it's free. but is that really saying much? granted, Linux is "free" and it rocks, but just because it's free doesn't make it good, any more than paying money for it makes it good. i have just recently tried out ApplixOffice and posted a brief review and some screen shots on my web site. Applix claims (i can't really say for sure it is or isn't) a Linux native program, not something ported. i found it mostly useable... a few odd things & notes for the wish list, but so far it is the best of what i have seen. the review is at: http://ontheflyphotography.1stcyberhost.com/linux04.htm later dayz.. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> "pablito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1:17:52 PM 11/23/00 >>> Of course I meant REAL word processors and the LINUX crowd, not these commercial enterprises trying to hurriedly port their wares to Linux. Kword would qualify as a Real word processor from the Linux crowd if it would save in some of the normal wp formats and if a few bugs were straightened out. I really like Kword. But that's kind of new, isn't it? oh well, maybe in a few more months. WP8 was a semi-commercial program and absolutely stinkingly pukingly awful, still using the ancient PTR files from WP5.1 days with those hard-coded font selections. I remember hand-editing those in Dos to try to get WP5.1 to use downloadable fonts. think it was just a quick and dirty thing Corel put out. I guess that's why they switched their stategy to Wine. Star Office is a big disappointment and is not the Linux crowd, as far as I'm concerned. Again, it's the hard coded font selections, unless there is some way to install more fonts. That kind of spoils a wp for me, since I think times is too narrow and hard to read. AbiWord: Not as nice as Kword and still those hard coded fonts. Most of the Linux text editors aren't particular about fonts. What libraries are these guys using? Klyx: I haven't tried that. That's the graphical front end to tetex, right? Okay I'll take a look at that, but tetex sounded like a real ancient thing from pre-X days. Applixware: I heard of that, not Maxwell. - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie]winblows interface : On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, pablito wrote: : : >Still using windows unfortunately. need to figure out how to configure Wine, : >and spend some money on hard disks and more software. Why is it that the : >linux crowd loves to program all kinds of graphics stuff but gets bored with : >creating something basic like a word processor? : : Like Wordperfect 8 for linux, indeed. Or abiword for linux. Or Kword for : Linux. Or Klyx. Or Maxwell. Or StarOffice. Or Applixware I agree... not : really... : : Paul : -- : Babies are nature's way to show the world to people. : At 2 in the morning. : : http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 : Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30 : : :
Re: [newbie]word processors
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, pablito wrote: >Of course I meant REAL word processors and the LINUX crowd, not these >commercial enterprises trying to hurriedly port their wares to Linux. Abiword is open source, not commercial. It is also available for windows and apple (or another platform). But to each his/her own. If you like MS Word, then by all means use it. I like Abiword and WP8. Paul -- Not: live and let live But: live and help to live http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie]word processors
Of course I meant REAL word processors and the LINUX crowd, not these commercial enterprises trying to hurriedly port their wares to Linux. Kword would qualify as a Real word processor from the Linux crowd if it would save in some of the normal wp formats and if a few bugs were straightened out. I really like Kword. But that's kind of new, isn't it? oh well, maybe in a few more months. WP8 was a semi-commercial program and absolutely stinkingly pukingly awful, still using the ancient PTR files from WP5.1 days with those hard-coded font selections. I remember hand-editing those in Dos to try to get WP5.1 to use downloadable fonts. think it was just a quick and dirty thing Corel put out. I guess that's why they switched their stategy to Wine. Star Office is a big disappointment and is not the Linux crowd, as far as I'm concerned. Again, it's the hard coded font selections, unless there is some way to install more fonts. That kind of spoils a wp for me, since I think times is too narrow and hard to read. AbiWord: Not as nice as Kword and still those hard coded fonts. Most of the Linux text editors aren't particular about fonts. What libraries are these guys using? Klyx: I haven't tried that. That's the graphical front end to tetex, right? Okay I'll take a look at that, but tetex sounded like a real ancient thing from pre-X days. Applixware: I heard of that, not Maxwell. - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie]winblows interface : On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, pablito wrote: : : >Still using windows unfortunately. need to figure out how to configure Wine, : >and spend some money on hard disks and more software. Why is it that the : >linux crowd loves to program all kinds of graphics stuff but gets bored with : >creating something basic like a word processor? : : Like Wordperfect 8 for linux, indeed. Or abiword for linux. Or Kword for : Linux. Or Klyx. Or Maxwell. Or StarOffice. Or Applixware I agree... not : really... : : Paul : -- : Babies are nature's way to show the world to people. : At 2 in the morning. : : http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 : Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30 : : :
Re: [newbie] Word wrap in your mail
I've just read in two messages which need to be shifted t o the side to be read. Just wondering what email program you are using and what the word-wrap (if any) is set at. Mine is 80 Bill
Re: [newbie] Word processors
I still go for Word Perfect Office 2000 It does the easy stuff and it does the hard stuff.,... Installs easy, and I use all the modules (STD edition) AND it pays back Corel for all the hard work that Corel is doing for Linux After messing with SANE... The "easy" scanner program for hours last night, I really appreciate the easy install. It got me WORKING in Linux much faster than any other program... MarkP >Paul wrote: > Hi all, > > Some people here have brought up Star Office. I have that on PC2 (I am > using PC1 now, in my little network). > I have to agree that S.O. is bringing things to their knees. My P-II 350 > acts rather sluggish loading it, and running it. > If you look for a good wordprocessor, I use > AbiWord. http://www.abisource.com. It is free, and there are ports for all > kinds of Linux, windows, Macintosh, the works. It is still a work in > progress, but the latest version (0.7.9) which I am downloading now, has a > lot of fixes. It contains the essence of wordprocessing (in my eyes). > I don't need all the options of Word (raise hands who uses more than 25% > of the options in there). Nor do I need all the wobbles of Excel. Gnumeric > is enough for me. > But that is off topic. >
[newbie] Word processors
Hi all, Some people here have brought up Star Office. I have that on PC2 (I am using PC1 now, in my little network). I have to agree that S.O. is bringing things to their knees. My P-II 350 acts rather sluggish loading it, and running it. If you look for a good wordprocessor, I use AbiWord. http://www.abisource.com. It is free, and there are ports for all kinds of Linux, windows, Macintosh, the works. It is still a work in progress, but the latest version (0.7.9) which I am downloading now, has a lot of fixes. It contains the essence of wordprocessing (in my eyes). I don't need all the options of Word (raise hands who uses more than 25% of the options in there). Nor do I need all the wobbles of Excel. Gnumeric is enough for me. But that is off topic. Paul )0(---)0( The fear of death keeps us from living, not from dying... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] Word Perfect Office 2000 for Linux....
I just got WP office 2000 for Linux. It installs easy and offers GREAT apps!! I've now owned Quattro Pro/WP under all O/Ses. DOS WIN Linux. I feel like have a computer now MarkP
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 for Linux install problem
Hi, I have solved the same problem unpacking again in order to overwrite the previous "Runme" file and the rest of them .Then I could execute the Runme file again without trouble. Good luck, Date sent: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 08:28:36 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lane Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 for Linux install problem Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Michelle said: > > I downloaded Word Perfect yesterday. It unpacked normally. When I tried to > > run the file called 'Runme' it said there was nothing to do. I ended up doing > > a manual install (running install.wp). I thought it installed everything ok, > > but the file xwp was not installed. I cannot run Word Perfect without it. > > Was it not installed, or will it just not run? Look in /usr/local/WordPerfect/wpbin and see if it's there. If it is, then get in that directory in a terminal window and execute "./wpbin". If it works, then you can work out the issue of how to execute it normally, depending on the window manager you're using. > > If it's not there, then you really do have a bad install and I don't have a ready >fix in mind. > -- > Lane > > Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA > Using Linux to get where I want to go... > > Emilio Correa e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuayuda.com.ar (Informática/Listas de Correo)
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 for Linux install problem
On Sat, 04 Mar 2000, Lane Lester wrote: > Michelle said: > > I downloaded Word Perfect yesterday. It unpacked normally. When I tried to > > run the file called 'Runme' it said there was nothing to do. I ended up doing > > a manual install (running install.wp). I thought it installed everything ok, > > but the file xwp was not installed. I cannot run Word Perfect without it. > > Was it not installed, or will it just not run? Look in /usr/local/WordPerfect/wpbin >and see if it's there. If it is, then get in that directory in a terminal window and >execute "./wpbin". If it works, then you can work out the issue of how to execute it >normally, depending on the window manager you're using. > > If it's not there, then you really do have a bad install and I don't have a ready >fix in mind. I searched the entire disk, and the file is not there. I'm going to try to download again and see what happens. Thanks. Michelle -- "Just because kittens are born in the hearth oven, that doesn't make them muffins." Kahlan Amnell in _Temple of the Winds_ by Terry Goodkind.
Re: [newbie] Word Perfect 8 for Linux install problem
Michelle said: > I downloaded Word Perfect yesterday. It unpacked normally. When I tried to > run the file called 'Runme' it said there was nothing to do. I ended up doing > a manual install (running install.wp). I thought it installed everything ok, > but the file xwp was not installed. I cannot run Word Perfect without it. Was it not installed, or will it just not run? Look in /usr/local/WordPerfect/wpbin and see if it's there. If it is, then get in that directory in a terminal window and execute "./wpbin". If it works, then you can work out the issue of how to execute it normally, depending on the window manager you're using. If it's not there, then you really do have a bad install and I don't have a ready fix in mind. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Using Linux to get where I want to go...
[newbie] Word Perfect 8 for Linux install problem
I downloaded Word Perfect yesterday. It unpacked normally. When I tried to run the file called 'Runme' it said there was nothing to do. I ended up doing a manual install (running install.wp). I thought it installed everything ok, but the file xwp was not installed. I cannot run Word Perfect without it. Any ideas? Michelle -- "Just because kittens are born in the hearth oven, that doesn't make them muffins." Kahlan Amnell in _Temple of the Winds_ by Terry Goodkind.
Re: [[newbie] word processing and finance apps]
pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and gives lots of errors. :P = Not sure about the financial software, but for wordprocessing, if you're used to M$ Office, try StarOffice 5.x. It's free for individual use and is fully office compatible. Some might recommend other suites such as Applixware, but I'm not familiar with any other than StarOffice and WP 8, both of which I do use regularly. Mike
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
There's Star Office (www.stardivision.com) as an office suite (it's what I use, but it's a bit quirky). And I have Gnucash (www.gnucash.org ?) which is ok, but I miss M$Money 99. Check out www.linuxberg.com and www.freshmeat.org. -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 8/16/99, 6:30:03 PM, pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [newbie] word processing and finance apps: > anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book > balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would > like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb > (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and > gives lots of errors. > :P
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
The rumor mill reports that Intuit may be working on a Linux version of Quicken and you've got WordPerfect 8 [download version] on one of the 5 disks that came with Mandrake. Original Message Follows anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and gives lots of errors. :P ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
You could try staroffice..It's an entire office suite for linux. In fact, if you are familiar with spreadsheets, you could make your own simple check registry. - Original Message - From: pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: [newbie] word processing and finance apps > anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book > balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would > like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb > (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and > gives lots of errors. > > :P
RE: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
On 17-Aug-99 pete moss wrote: > anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book > balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would > like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb > (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and > gives lots of errors. > >:P The Linux version of WordPerfect 8 is free for personal non-commercial use. As for a check book balancing program, I don't know any to recommend, but you can look around at freshmeat.net or linuxberg.com.. -Tom
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
WordPerfect 8.0 is a reasonably good wordprocessor (and free for LINUX: http://linux.corel.com/linux8/download.htm) -- the only problem I have found so far is that "Search and Replace does not seem to work (no matter what you search for, it says string not found -- anyone any ideas how to fix that one?) There are some spread-sheets and you might check out: http://www.gnucash.org/ for a money manager. Murray Strome Dan Brown wrote: From: pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book > balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would As far as a word processor goes, how about WordPerfect? Version 7 is available for Linux, free for non-commercial use. http://linux.corel.com. Don't know about checkbook software, though--Quicken for Linux would be really nice. -- Murray and Diane Strome 1275 Burnside Road West VICTORIA BC V8Z 1P3 Canada Phone: (250) 479-6448 Fax: (250) 727-3427
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
From: pete moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book > balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would As far as a word processor goes, how about WordPerfect? Version 7 is available for Linux, free for non-commercial use. http://linux.corel.com. Don't know about checkbook software, though--Quicken for Linux would be really nice.
[newbie] word processing and finance apps
anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and gives lots of errors. :P
