Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document

[mike]

Stephen Kühn wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 12:30, mike wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ahh... thanks Steven.
>>
>>Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux.
>>I guess I thought I was safer than I really was.
>>
>>Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around.
>>
>>Again thanks,
>>Mike
> 
> 
> Not quite sure in Mozilla Mail - but it's there somewhere. If it was
> Evolution I could tell you right off the bat...
> 
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I found out what the problem was, it seems to be a bug with the
particular version of Mozilla I _was_ useing, tried different
version with no problems.(I think anyways)

Still going after the no html solution though.

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Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document

[Stephen Kühn]

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 12:30, mike wrote:

> Ahh... thanks Steven.
> 
> Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux.
> I guess I thought I was safer than I really was.
> 
> Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around.
> 
> Again thanks,
> Mike

Not quite sure in Mozilla Mail - but it's there somewhere. If it was
Evolution I could tell you right off the bat...

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Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document

[mike]

Stephen Kühn wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:30, mike wrote:
> 
>


>>
>>I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again.
>>
>>What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing
>>some kind of java exploit?
>>
>>Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran
>>chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up).
>>
>>Thanks
>>Mike
> 
> 
> Check your mail preferences and make sure that you only view the
> messages at TEXT instead of HTML => that is where the problem lies.
> 
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Ahh... thanks Steven.

Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux.
I guess I thought I was safer than I really was.

Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around.

Again thanks,
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Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document

[Stephen Kühn]

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:30, mike wrote:
> I know this is actually a no...no... but sometimes I get these
> emails meant for a windows box with attachments like joker.exe or
> whatever.
> 
> Anyways I dont open the attachments, but I view the message source
> just to see what it looks like. I know :-| killed the cat.
> 
> I did not ever have a problem until today I got 2 of them and each
> time I viewed them X died with  "client killed".
> 
> So I copy them to a file and view them there with an editor. Ok no
> problem so I open up my browser and do a search on some of
> particulars like subject and attachments.
> 
> I whined up at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/ at a developers
> forum and see a similar message there.
> 
> I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again.
> 
> What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing
> some kind of java exploit?
> 
> Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran
> chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up).
> 
> Thanks
> Mike

Check your mail preferences and make sure that you only view the
messages at TEXT instead of HTML => that is where the problem lies.

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[newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document

[mike]

I know this is actually a no...no... but sometimes I get these
emails meant for a windows box with attachments like joker.exe or
whatever.

Anyways I dont open the attachments, but I view the message source
just to see what it looks like. I know :-| killed the cat.

I did not ever have a problem until today I got 2 of them and each
time I viewed them X died with  "client killed".

So I copy them to a file and view them there with an editor. Ok no
problem so I open up my browser and do a search on some of
particulars like subject and attachments.

I whined up at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/ at a developers
forum and see a similar message there.

I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again.

What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing
some kind of java exploit?

Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran
chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up).

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] X & Compile Error

[Stephen Kühn]

On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 01:31, JRH wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
> happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(
> 
> I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
> includes, a la:
> 
> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
> your installation and add the correct paths!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#
> 
> I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
> how I did it!
> 
> Help!
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> James

Make sure you have the development libraries installed and you should be
right.

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Re: [newbie] X & Compile Error

[JRH]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
JRH wrote:
Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other 
stuff happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please 
check your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant 
remember how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
James
It sounds like you are missing some of the -devel packages. Chances 
are, you are missing more then just the libxorg-x11-devel package.

Mikkel
Thanks Mikkel. I knew it would be something as simple as the -devel 
packages... a quick urpmi soon sorted it.

Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] X & Compile Error

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

JRH wrote:
Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
James
It sounds like you are missing some of the -devel packages. Chances are, 
you are missing more then just the libxorg-x11-devel package.

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[newbie] X & Compile Error

[JRH]

Hi All,
I have been a way from Linux for a while, owing to too much other stuff 
happening, and have forgotten a few things :-(

I'm trying to compile something, and I keep getting an error about X 
includes, a la:

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check 
your installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.3c]#

I had this last year, and someone helped me out but I cant remember 
how I did it!

Help!
Many thanks,
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[newbie] X Update

[Mohammed Badran]

hello
i have downloaded the X11R6.8 from www.x.org and need to know how to update 
the current version, i am using mdk 10.1 off and my X version is 6.7 i have 
tryed to do usual source installation
'./configure
make World
make install'
and i had two server one over the other and got problems in the screen 
reselution and my keyboard hang
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Re: [newbie] X Server Wont Start....

[mike]

J wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> Had a power failure, and now this:
>  
> execve failed for /etc/X11/x (errno2)
> giving up
>  
> xinit: no such file or directory (errno2) unable to connect to x server
>  
> xinit: no such process (errno3): server error
>  
> Any ideas? I have tried to remove and reinstall xfree, but it wont
> budge... all I get is a message telling me it was not found when I give
> it the rpm -e command, and if I try to urpmi it back in, I get
> everything already installed
>  
> Help!!
>  
> James

You could try to reconfigure your xserver, may have lost a link.

[root]# xf86config (if your useing XFree)

[root]# xorgconfig  (if your useing Xorg)

Also there is a drake tool

[root]# XFdrake

I did notice on mine mdk10.0 with Xorg the link is /etc/X11/X
with a capital X your error shows /etc/X11/x You could look at
your /etc/X11/ directory and see where the link is pointing mine
looks like this  X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg*


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[newbie] X Server Wont Start....

[J]

Hi All,
 
Had a power failure, and now this:
 
execve failed for /etc/X11/x (errno2)
giving up
 
xinit: no such file or directory (errno2) unable to 
connect to x server
 
xinit: no such process (errno3): server 
error
 
Any ideas? I have tried to remove and reinstall 
xfree, but it wont budge... all I get is a message telling me it was not found 
when I give it the rpm -e command, and if I try to urpmi it back in, I get 
everything already installed
 
Help!!
 
James 

Re: [newbie] X-86 Will not load

[Paul]

Op Fri, 27 Aug 2004 11:53:49 -0700 schreef Steve:

>a video resolution problem so it drops to the command line. I fixed it
>the first time by editing a file that showed the different video
>resolutions for the monitor. However, I cannot remember what file it
>was. Do you know what file that info is kept in?

/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 perhaps?


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[newbie] X-86 Will not load

[Steve]

I made the mistake of reloading Mandrake 10.0 and 
forgot that last time I loaded it X86 would not start. Linux tries to start it 
but, there is a video resolution problem so it drops to the command line. I 
fixed it the first time by editing a file that showed the different video 
resolutions for the monitor. However, I cannot remember what file it was. Do you 
know what file that info is kept in?
 
Thank you,
Steve

Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

[Paul Smith]

_nasturtium wrote:
I have not been able to have KMPlayer working on any other sites. 
However, it plays the mp3 files in my hard disk.
Do you have xine installed? I'm not sure if mplayer supports .asx.
(For xine, you might have to link directly e.g.
http://10.133.169.15:80/tsfdirecto instead of
www.tsf.sapo.net/tsfdirecto.asx).
Hi, _nasturtium,
Thanks for your reply. Meanwhile, I was able to solve the problem: I 
have installed CrossOver (http://www.codeweavers.com/) and, now, I can 
use Internet Explorer 6 and Windows Media Player under Linux.

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Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

[_nasturtium]

Hi!

Firstly, sorry for taking so long to reply.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:00 am, Paul Smith wrote:
> I have not been able to have KMPlayer working on any other sites.
> However, it plays the mp3 files in my hard disk.

Do you have xine installed? I'm not sure if mplayer supports .asx. (For xine, 
you might have to link directly e.g. http://10.133.169.15:80/tsfdirecto 
instead of www.tsf.sapo.net/tsfdirecto.asx).

Hope this helps!

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Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

[Paul Smith]

_nasturtium wrote:
Thanks, _nasturtium. I have just installed KMPlayer, but the problem
persists at the problematic site:
http://www.tsf.sapo.pt/online/primeira/default.asp
I cannot hear anything at the site above.
Does KMPlayer work on any other sites (if not, do you see the embedded 
player)? Also, does downloading the file and playing it with KMPlayer or 
mplayer work?
_nasturtium,
I have not been able to have KMPlayer working on any other sites. 
However, it plays the mp3 files in my hard disk.

Paul


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Re: [newbie] x-mplayer2

[_nasturtium]

Hi!

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 02:21 am, Paul Smith wrote:
> Thanks, _nasturtium. I have just installed KMPlayer, but the problem
> persists at the problematic site:
>
> http://www.tsf.sapo.pt/online/primeira/default.asp
>
> I cannot hear anything at the site above.
>
> Paul

Does KMPlayer work on any other sites (if not, do you see the embedded 
player)? Also, does downloading the file and playing it with KMPlayer or 
mplayer work?

Regards,
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Re: [newbie] X-Chat

[SME Server Admin]

On Friday 09 Jul 2004 15:43, Dan Gordon wrote:
> /home/username/.xchat2/xchatlogs

Ahh yes, thanks found it :) 



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Re: [newbie] X-Chat

[LtCdData]

in either .xchat2/xchatlogs  or .xchat/xchatlogs
for older versions


On Friday 09 Jul 2004 H:14, SME Server Admin wrote:
> Could anyone tell me where X-Chat keeps its logs. I know I've got them
> switched on but I don't know where they are stored.
>
> Anyone??
>
> TIA


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Re: [newbie] X-Chat

[Dan Gordon]

On Friday 09 July 2004 10:14 am, SME Server Admin wrote:
> Could anyone tell me where X-Chat keeps its logs. I know I've got them
> switched on but I don't know where they are stored.
>
> Anyone??
>
> TIA

Mine are kept in /home/username/.xchat2/xchatlogs

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Re: [newbie] X-Chat

[Anders Lind]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:14:49 +0100
SME Server Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could anyone tell me where X-Chat keeps its logs. I know I've got them 
> switched on but I don't know where they are stored.
> 

Without being sure as I am not running XChat atm my guess is that you have a 
.xchat-directory in your homedirectory under which you should find a logs directory.

/Anders


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[newbie] X-Chat

[SME Server Admin]

Could anyone tell me where X-Chat keeps its logs. I know I've got them 
switched on but I don't know where they are stored.

Anyone??

TIA


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Re: [newbie] X Includes....

[Raffaele BELARDI]

JRH wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to compile/install something, and it's tripping up.  See pasting 
below!

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your 
installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.1a]$
install the libxfree86-devel package
raffaele

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[newbie] X Includes....

[JRH]

Hi,

I'm trying to compile/install something, and it's tripping up.  See pasting 
below!

checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your 
installation and add the correct paths!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qsstv-5.1a]$

I've had this error before, last year, whilst trying to install Apollon from 
source. I installed something to rectify it, but I cant for the life of me 
remember what it was!

Can anyone throw some suggestions at me?

Many thanks,

JRH

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[newbie] x-mplayer2

[Paul Smith]

Dear All
On some news sites, to listen to the news, it is necessary x-mplayer2. 
Where can one find it? Does it really work on Linux platforms?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [newbie] x-windows based encryption software

[Derek Jennings]

On Tuesday 22 Jun 2004 05:05, Pete Doak wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I'm looking for a nice gui based encryption software program. Preferably
> something that will run under KDE, and perform on the fly encryption of
> the files in a directory.
>
> But I'm willing to encrypt the files one at a time too.
>
> I've been using "Kremlin" under windows, and I'm trying to move over to
> linux.
>
> Anybody know of anything like that?
>
> Any info is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Pete

Why not use an encrypted filesystem?

I have not tried it myself, but if you go to 
MandrakeControlCentre>Mountpoints>Partitions

When you create a new partition you have the option to select 
"Encrypted File System" as one of the partition types.

A quick Google reveals lots of pages on encrypted file systems such as
http://koeln.ccc.de/archiv/drt/crypto/linux-disk.html

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[newbie] x-windows based encryption software

[Pete Doak]

Hi:

I'm looking for a nice gui based encryption software program. Preferably
something that will run under KDE, and perform on the fly encryption of
the files in a directory. 

But I'm willing to encrypt the files one at a time too. 

I've been using "Kremlin" under windows, and I'm trying to move over to
linux. 

Anybody know of anything like that? 

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [newbie] X problem Strange Activity revisited?

[Frans Ketelaars]

On Saturday 22 May 2004 20:11, Terence Golightly wrote:
> List,
>
> Below I have attached an excerpt of dmesg from the other night.  Of
> particular interest is the messages from X about an illegal attempt
> to access hardware.
-

atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on 
isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.


AFAIK this just means the author of atkbd.c doesn't agree with the way 
XFree86 code accesses the hardware.

> I left my machine with the desktop locked and was doing other things.
> I returned and found a login screen.  I tried to log back in but was
> immediately kicked out. I was able to login using an Alt+Fn screen
> and tried to check things over. Eventuall I just rebooted and was
> able to then login. It was a particularly stormy evening and I did
> note some messages verifying that the ups was logging brief power
> outages (lightening strikes?).  I am concerned since I noted in a
> recent thread about seeing shorewall messages on my local terminals
> (alt+F1 etc).  So I guess I'm asking did someone attempt illegal
> access to my machine or perhaps my apcupsd software is buggy?
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
>
> Terry

HTH,

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[newbie] X problem Strange Activity revisited?

[Terence Golightly]

List,

Below I have attached an excerpt of dmesg from the other night.  Of
particular interest is the messages from X about an illegal attempt to
access hardware.  

I left my machine with the desktop locked and was doing other things. I
returned and found a login screen.  I tried to log back in but was
immediately kicked out. I was able to login using an Alt+Fn screen and
tried to check things over. Eventuall I just rebooted and was able to
then login. It was a particularly stormy evening and I did note some
messages verifying that the ups was logging brief power outages
(lightening strikes?).  I am concerned since I noted in a recent thread
about seeing shorewall messages on my local terminals (alt+F1 etc).  So
I guess I'm asking did someone attempt illegal access to my machine or
perhaps my apcupsd software is buggy?

Thanks for reading,


Terry


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mtrr: 0xe400,0x200 overlaps existing 0xe400,0x100
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=201.40.221.118 DST=151.201.32.59 LEN=837 
TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=112 ID=53831 PROTO=UDP SPT=25121 DPT=1029 LEN=817 
Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=141.158.118.74 DST=151.201.32.59 LEN=48 
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Re: [newbie] X sometimes start sometimes does not ??!!

[Derek Jennings]

On Monday 17 May 2004 11:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello Friends,
>
> I use Mndrk 10.0 (download edition)- Kernel 2.6  . But when I loaded
> nividia drivers I have problems . X sometimes does not start. And it gives
> errors that NVIDIA(0) couldn't loaded. When I re-install nvidia driver once
> more X starts normally  and then can not next time (next boot )..
>
>
>
> My gr. card is Geforce fx 5200 , and mobo is Asus a7n8x-deluxe.
>
>
>
> All help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Best Regards.
>
>
>
> H.ERTAS
 Take a look at /etc/modprobe.conf
You should have a line that reads
alias /dev/nvidia*   nvidia

If that does not help take a look at the log file
/var/log/XFree86.0.log  (only root can read that file)
It will explain why X did not load.


HTH

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[newbie] X sometimes start sometimes does not ??!!

[hertas]

Hello Friends,

I use Mndrk 10.0 (download edition)- Kernel 2.6  . But when I loaded
nividia drivers I have problems . X sometimes does not start. And it gives
errors that NVIDIA(0) couldn't loaded. When I re-install nvidia driver once
more X starts normally  and then can not next time (next boot )..



My gr. card is Geforce fx 5200 , and mobo is Asus a7n8x-deluxe.



All help is appreciated.



Best Regards.



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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[JoeHill]

On Tue, 11 May 2004 21:12:53 -0700
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

> The choice of window manager is irrelevant. It's the video resolution
> that determines whether it'll fit. A lightweight window manager at the
> same screen resolution as KDE is going to use the same amount of video
> memory.

Not too concerned with how much memory it may use, but the amount of video RAM
definitely affects performance/speed. KDE and Gnome are sloths on this MoBo with
8 MB of video RAM, not so when I had my GF4 Ti in an AGP slot. Even Pekwm
doesn't have that 'split second' responsiveness I was used to.

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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 2 May 2004 22:57:49 -0400
JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Just out of curiosity: what desktop are you running with 2 MB of video
> RAM?
> 
> Shirley not KDE or Guh-nome!

The choice of window manager is irrelevant. It's the video resolution
that determines whether it'll fit. A lightweight window manager at the
same screen resolution as KDE is going to use the same amount of video
memory.

I had an ATI Graphics expression card w/2 megs run in 1152x900x16bpp for
years before I got my current Matrox card (with 16 megs). The OPs
problem was that 2 megs is simply not enough resolution to run 1024x768
at 32bpp. 

OTOH, 2 megs was enough for the big iron 370 I first learned programming
on at the local community college. But it was kinda painful. 


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[newbie] X sometimes start sometimes does not ??!!

[hertas]

Hello Friends,

I use Mndrk 10.0 (download edition)- Kernel 2.6  . But when I loaded
nividia drivers I have problems . X sometimes does not start. And it gives
errors that NVIDIA(0) couldn't loaded. When I re-install nvidia driver once
more X starts normally  and then can not next time (next boot )..



My gr. card is Geforce fx 5200 , and mobo is Asus a7n8x-deluxe.



All help is appreciated.



Best Regards.



H.ERTAS

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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[JoeHill]

On Sun, 2 May 2004 13:47:29 -0400
Jason Jesso disseminated the following:

> Great.  I changed it to 16bpp.  that works.

Just out of curiosity: what desktop are you running with 2 MB of video RAM?

Shirley not KDE or Guh-nome!

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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[Richard Urwin]

On Sunday 02 May 2004 6:05 pm, Jason Jesso wrote:
> I have attached the XF86Config-4 file.
>
> My video chip is on-board and has 2 MB memory.
>
> The strange thing is that these setting are the settings I had 2
> versions of Mandrake ago.

2MB is really small these days. Seems the default install doesn't 
support it. Good to see you're working again though.

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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[Jason Jesso]

Great.  I changed it to 16bpp.  that works.

thanks


- Original Message - 
From: "JoeHill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] X server crash


> On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:10:23 -0400
> Jason Jesso disseminated the following:
>
> > I have installed Mandrake 10 Community.
> >
> > It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. startx
> >
> > I have attached the XFree86 log.  Make no sense to me.
>
> I'm no X-pert, but this *seems* to stand out to me:
>
> (EE) ATI(0): Virtual size (1024x768) (pitch 1024) exceeds video memory
>
> Run 'XFdrake' as root, and try different configurations (should allow you
'test'
> each one, til you get a useable config)
>
> -- 
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> Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
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other.
> Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." -- George Bush,
> Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
>
>






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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[JoeHill]

On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:10:23 -0400
Jason Jesso disseminated the following:

> I have installed Mandrake 10 Community.
> 
> It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. startx
> 
> I have attached the XFree86 log.  Make no sense to me.

I'm no X-pert, but this *seems* to stand out to me:

(EE) ATI(0): Virtual size (1024x768) (pitch 1024) exceeds video memory

Run 'XFdrake' as root, and try different configurations (should allow you 'test'
each one, til you get a useable config)

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Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." -- George Bush,
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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[Jason Jesso]

I have attached the XF86Config-4 file.

My video chip is on-board and has 2 MB memory.

The strange thing is that these setting are the settings I had 2 versions of
Mandrake ago.

Seems now I have this problem since 9.2 Mandrake Linux.   When I istalled
9.2 I got fustrated and never ever looked into it.

But now I really Mandrake 10.



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From: "Richard Urwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] X server crash


> On Sunday 02 May 2004 5:10 pm, Jason Jesso wrote:
> > I have installed Mandrake 10 Community.
> >
> > It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. startx
> >
> > I have attached the XFree86 log.  Make no sense to me.
>
> I think this is it:
> >(EE) ATI(0): Virtual size (1024x768) (pitch 1024) exceeds video memory
>
> Can you post the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and we'll be able to suggest
> some corrections to it.
>
> >(II) ATI(0): Using 8 MB linear aperture at 0xFD00.
> >(!!) ATI(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to 2047 kB
> > due to linear aperture size and/or placement of hardware cursor image
> > area.
> >...
> >(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2048 kB
>
> You should manage 64k colours (16bpp) at 1024x768, or 24bpp at lower
> resolutions.
>
> How much video memory do you think the board has?
>
> -- 
> Richard Urwin
>
>






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Re: [newbie] X server crash

[Richard Urwin]

On Sunday 02 May 2004 5:10 pm, Jason Jesso wrote:
> I have installed Mandrake 10 Community.
>
> It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. startx
>
> I have attached the XFree86 log.  Make no sense to me.

I think this is it:
>(EE) ATI(0): Virtual size (1024x768) (pitch 1024) exceeds video memory

Can you post the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and we'll be able to suggest 
some corrections to it.

>(II) ATI(0): Using 8 MB linear aperture at 0xFD00.
>(!!) ATI(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to 2047 kB
> due to linear aperture size and/or placement of hardware cursor image
> area. 
>...
>(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2048 kB

You should manage 64k colours (16bpp) at 1024x768, or 24bpp at lower 
resolutions.

How much video memory do you think the board has?

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[newbie] X server crash

[Jason Jesso]

I have installed Mandrake 10 
Community.
 
It seems the X server crashes when I start X e.g. 
startx
 
I have attached the XFree86 log.  Make no 
sense to me.


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Re: [newbie] X Includer

[JRH]

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:36:45 +0200
robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> libxfree86-devel

Thank you Brave Sir Robin, I'll have a look right now!

JRH

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Re: [newbie] X won't start!

[Simon Kitching]

On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 18:18, Marc Resnick wrote:

> Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Could not open default font 'fixed'
> 
> XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) 0X
> X server ":0.0" after 0 requests(0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> 
> My Xfree86 config is normal, and the abnormal error during boot was that I
> have no space left on my root partition(which I was going to make bigger
> today...when suddenly this happened).

Ahh .. root partition full. 

How did it get full? Were you in the middle of installing some RPMs,
perhaps? Upgrading your system?

It looks to me like X can't start the font server, so gives up. That
could well be due to an incomplete upgrade (due to running out of disk
during an rpm install) or maybe you have /tmp on your root partition and
the font server needs some working space.

Try:
  df -k
to see what partitions you have mounted, and how much space they have.

If any of the important partitions are full, I would recommend deleting
or compressing some unimportant stuff to see if that helps. Well, it's
worth trying anyway...

I really can't see what harddrake would have to do with any of this,
though. Are you absolutely certain that it worked immediately before you
disabled harddrake, and stopped working immediately afterward? What
command did you use to "disable" harddrake?

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Re: [newbie] X won't start!

[Marc Resnick]

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon Kitching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marc Resnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!


> On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 17:21, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Simon Kitching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 16:54, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > From: "Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:44 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] X won't start!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 08:26 pm, Marc Resnick wrote:
> > > > > > X Graphical Interface won't start! It won't start on the
> > > > > > new kernel I'm trying to figure out, or my old one(see my
> > > > > > other thread). The only thing I've changed is telling
> > > > > > Harddrake not to start on boot, because H.J. Bathoorn
> > > > > > told me it would rid of an error I was receiving at boot.
> > > > > > Is this the problem? If so, how do I enable it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Marc
> > > > > Could you copy your x Config file here?
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Where exactly can I find that?
> > >
> > > XFree86 (the standard X implementation for linux) is configured in
file
> > > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (assuming you have version 4.x of xfree86, which
> > > you almost certainly do).
> > >
> > > Of course if you only have text-mode access to your operating system,
it
> > > might be difficult to post. I presume you've got a second machine
you're
> > > using to send emails at the moment?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I've got several boxes, but this one is dual booted with Windows XP. I'm
not
> > even certain if I'll be able to access the files, but I'll try when I
get a
> > chance.
>
> If you're using FAT-format disk partitions for windows then you can copy
> it from linux into that partition. Or otherwise the xf86 config file
> should be small enough to go on a floppy.
>
> You might want to try "dmesg >/tmp/dmesg.txt" and post the contents of
> that too. The "dmesg" program dumps log output generated by the kernel
> while booting. I don't know if it also holds any X startup problems or
> not.
>
> And what happens when you try to start X anyway? What command do you
> use, and what output do you get?
>
> [PS: I'm no expert on X; I've learnt a little as the result of some
> bitter struggles in the past..]
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon
>

Okay I took the time to write down all the errors.

The first I received repeated many times:

Warning: Symbol map for key < > redefined
Using last definition for conflicting fields.

Inside the < > was: AB03 --> AB10, BKSL, LCTL, and SPCE. There could have
been more that was bumped off the screen.

Next came:
Errors from xkbcomp not fatal to X server

Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
Could not open default font 'fixed'

XIO: fatal IO error 104(connection reset by peer) 0X
X server ":0.0" after 0 requests(0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

My Xfree86 config is normal, and the abnormal error during boot was that I
have no space left on my root partition(which I was going to make bigger
today...when suddenly this happened).

Any ideas?

Marc


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[newbie] X won't start!

[Marc Resnick]

X Graphical Interface won't start! It won't start 
on the new kernel I'm trying to figure out, or my old one(see my other thread). 
The only thing I've changed is telling Harddrake not to start on boot, because 
H.J. Bathoorn told me it would rid of an error I was receiving at boot. Is this 
the problem? If so, how do I enable it?
 
--Marc

[newbie] X font server

[John Richard Smith]

Anyone know anything about how the X font server works ??

take a look at,
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftCompat.h
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h
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[newbie] X free security update problem

[johnb51]

Ran md update for the latest xfree update. Update had to remove the the old one to 
install the update. Everything seemed to download and install ok. When I start the 
computer now it stops at the command line login. After login and tryin to start kde I 
get the following error messages:
execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno2)
giving up.
xinit: no such file or directory (errno2): unable to connect to X server
xinit: no such process (errno 3): server error
Any help on how to get this straightened would be appreciated. I am not experienced 
with command line interface so please be specific.
Thanks
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Re: [newbie] X died, questions...

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 02:25, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Saturday 20 December 2003 02:06 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> >LX  Was it connected to the net while you were gone?
> 
> Er, yes...cable-modem here "always on"... :-)

Is it possible that somebody could have tapped your X11 port 6000.

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Re: [newbie] X died, questions...

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Saturday 20 December 2003 02:06 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

>LX  Was it connected to the net while you were gone?

Er, yes...cable-modem here "always on"... :-)

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Re: [newbie] X died, questions...

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 00:58, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Version 9.2 of Mandrake has been very solid here, I'm happy to say, but after 
> leaving my system on for a couple of hours yesterday (well, okay - 5/6 hrs), 
> X crashed. It did start right back up though - did not have to reboot or 
> anything drastic like that. I checked .xsession-errors, it had nothing of 
> interest. I did find this odd looking line in /var/log/messages though:
> 
> Dec 19 13:22:35 darkforce kernel: VM: killing process X
> 
> Is that VM as in virtual memory or something else?
> 
> Any ideas/thoughts appreciated! 
> 
> PS First time this has happened - and its not repeated - I've left it on for 
> hours and hours before, and since...

Was it connected to the net while you were gone?


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[newbie] X died, questions...

[Ronald J. Hall]

Version 9.2 of Mandrake has been very solid here, I'm happy to say, but after 
leaving my system on for a couple of hours yesterday (well, okay - 5/6 hrs), 
X crashed. It did start right back up though - did not have to reboot or 
anything drastic like that. I checked .xsession-errors, it had nothing of 
interest. I did find this odd looking line in /var/log/messages though:

Dec 19 13:22:35 darkforce kernel: VM: killing process X

Is that VM as in virtual memory or something else?

Any ideas/thoughts appreciated! 

PS First time this has happened - and its not repeated - I've left it on for 
hours and hours before, and since...

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Re: [newbie] X-Screensaver at KDE

[Iván Velamazán González]

OK, I've seen this same question is asked and answered a few days ago... 
Sorry.

Iván Velamazán González wrote:

Hi to all:

After beeing some time messing around with Gnome and KDE trying to 
decide which of them I prefer most, the only think I have decided is 
that I _HATE_ Mandrake's KDE screen savers, and I would like to use 
X-Screensaver with KDE.

Any advices about how to do it (it's not in my list of KDE screensaver 
choices)? Thanks in advance.
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[newbie] X-Screensaver at KDE

[Iván Velamazán González]

Hi to all:

After beeing some time messing around with Gnome and KDE trying to 
decide which of them I prefer most, the only think I have decided is 
that I _HATE_ Mandrake's KDE screen savers, and I would like to use 
X-Screensaver with KDE.

Any advices about how to do it (it's not in my list of KDE screensaver 
choices)? Thanks in advance.

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[newbie] X-Forwarding and Knoppix

[Grant]

Would using X-Forwarding with a Knoppix CD be better than using VNC?

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Re: [newbie] X sever

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 00:59, drew martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:42, drew martin wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I
> > > have tied everything I can think off.
> > > I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a
> > > Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X
> > > sever please,turn off".
> > >   The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
> > > Drew
> >
> > Set your system to boot into runlevel 3 -> after that, then you can
> > safely install the video driver - and test it by starting X with
> > "startx" - then once you're satisfied that the driver works correctly,
> > reset the system runlevel to 5 (graphical login)
>  Hi Stephen,
>  How do you do this?Dummy needs walk thought cause I'm 
> complete Newbie.
> Drew

kedit /etc/inittab

Change where the "default" is set to 5 to 3 -> reboot. Change your
driver or do what you need to do. Then when you're happy with it all,
change the runlevel back.

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Re: [newbie] X sever

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:59 pm, drew martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:42, drew martin wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new
> > > video driver.I have tied everything I can think off.
> > > I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the
> > > folder in a Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you
> > > apper to be running a X sever please,turn off".
> > >   The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
> > > Drew
> >
> > Set your system to boot into runlevel 3 -> after that, then you
> > can safely install the video driver - and test it by starting X
> > with "startx" - then once you're satisfied that the driver works
> > correctly, reset the system runlevel to 5 (graphical login)
>
>  Hi Stephen,
>  How do you do this?Dummy needs walk thought cause
> I'm complete Newbie.
> Drew

If you want to run in text mode for this one session only, don't 
bother changing any scripts anywhere.  Just boot up as normal, but as 
soon as the lilo splash comes up hit Esc.  Then type 'linux 3'.  This 
will take you to a console and you can do whatever the instructions 
tell you to remove the old card driver and install the new one.  Boot 
as normal afterwards.

HTH

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RE: [newbie] X sever

[Dennis . R . Myers]

Title: RE: [newbie] X sever







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Subject: Re: [newbie] X sever



On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:42, drew martin wrote:
> Hi All,
> How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I have 
> tied everything I can think off.
> I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a 
> Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X sever 
> please,turn off".
>   The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
> Drew


Set your system to boot into runlevel 3 -> after that, then you can
safely install the video driver - and test it by starting X with
"startx" - then once you're satisfied that the driver works correctly,
reset the system runlevel to 5 (graphical login)


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I have found that the easiest thing to do is boot failsafe and then login as my user self and then login as su from there. That way nothing needs be changed for regular boot up. I don't know enough vi so I make sure to hav midnight commander (mc) installed. It is on the d/l CDs just doesn't auto install unless you pick the package. HTH Dennis M. 

Re: [newbie] X sever

[Eduardo Silva]

drew martin wrote:

Hi All,
   How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I have 
tied everything I can think off.
   I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a 
Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X sever 
please,turn off".
 The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
   Drew

 

Drew,

On a xterm,konsole,etc. do an init 3 as root. This will take you to a 
place without an X server running, and you can do everything 
command.-line. When finished do an init 5 (if I remeber correctly).

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Re: [newbie] X sever

[Brant Fitzsimmons]

drew martin wrote:

Hi All,
   How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I have 
tied everything I can think off.
   I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a 
Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X sever 
please,turn off".
 The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
   Drew

In a console, logged in as root, type:

telinit 3

That will stop X.

Once you are done installing the video drivers:

telinit 5

That's what I do anyway.  It works for me.

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Re: [newbie] X sever

[drew martin]

On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:42, drew martin wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I
> > have tied everything I can think off.
> > I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a
> > Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X
> > sever please,turn off".
> >   The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
> > Drew
>
> Set your system to boot into runlevel 3 -> after that, then you can
> safely install the video driver - and test it by starting X with
> "startx" - then once you're satisfied that the driver works correctly,
> reset the system runlevel to 5 (graphical login)
 Hi Stephen,
 How do you do this?Dummy needs walk thought cause I'm 
complete Newbie.
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Re: [newbie] X sever

[Dan Gordon]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:42:18 +0100
drew martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video
> driver.I have 
> tied everything I can think off.
> I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in
> a 
> Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X
> sever please,turn off".
>   The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
> Drew
> 
> 

Drew, there are some excellent how to's and installation manuals on the
NVidia web pages, i suggest you download and print the ones you need for
reference. But the file you need to edit is inittab found here.
/etc/inittab
you need to set the run level to 3 and reboot in order to install the
drivers (this will put you into full text mode) so you need to be
comfortable editing files without grapical interface (I use mc for this)
when the installation is complete you will need to edit the inittab file
again and set it back to 5 in order to boot back into your x server.
If all went well you should see a NVidia startup screen when x server
starts.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
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[newbie] X sever

[drew martin]

Hi All,
How do I turn off Xsever?So I can install some new video driver.I have 
tied everything I can think off.
I'm running MDK 9.1,I've work out how to get to the folder in a 
Terminal,bu keep getting the error message"you apper to be running a X sever 
please,turn off".
  The drivers are the new Nvidia ones for my TNT2
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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday June 10 2003 11:03 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> I've got a Ti4200 with 64 megs of Ram, 4X AGP and I've had lots
> of instability issues...
>
> First I thought it was memory (and partly was - I guess - cpuburn
> wouldn't run longer than 2 mins). So in came the Corsair DDR
> memory.
>
> Then I thought it was heat (and again, I think it partly was). I
> was running at around 50 degrees C., now I'm down to 34 degrees
> C. due to some extra fans 'n stuff.
>
> Nowdunno. I'm running 9.1 download edition, and its about
> like when I was running 9.0 so I don't think its the hardware. I
> suppose it could be something in BIOS but I've tried default,
> optimized, and everything in between. I looked at the BIOS on my
> oldest sons comp - its a Soyo board too

Are you usin the nVidia proprietary driver?  File a bug report 
with them, that's most likely where the issues are.  If linux users 
would start buggin 'em, instead of just acceptin closed source 
drivers, we'd likely get better support.
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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:32 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:

>No ;)  Can't say I understand it any better than you, but I can
> copy'n paste ;)

 :-)

Thanks, thats along the lines of what I found. Lots of "hits" were advocating 
disabling it, if it wasn't already.

My sons comps both have Geforce 2's with 32 and 64 megs of Ram, and both are 
2X AGP. I've never seen a game crash under Linux on them.

I've got a Ti4200 with 64 megs of Ram, 4X AGP and I've had lots of instability 
issues...

First I thought it was memory (and partly was - I guess - cpuburn wouldn't run 
longer than 2 mins). So in came the Corsair DDR memory.

Then I thought it was heat (and again, I think it partly was). I was running 
at around 50 degrees C., now I'm down to 34 degrees C. due to some extra fans 
'n stuff.

Nowdunno. I'm running 9.1 download edition, and its about like when I was 
running 9.0 so I don't think its the hardware. I suppose it could be 
something in BIOS but I've tried default, optimized, and everything in 
between. I looked at the BIOS on my oldest sons comp - its a Soyo board too  
(although not a Dragon Plus) and our settings are similiar.

I might go drop down to 2X AGP and aperture of 4, like you said, just to see 
what happens next.  

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Tom Brinkman]

On Tuesday June 10 2003 07:53 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Monday 09 June 2003 05:11 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > It'll probly never go to 64 even if it set higher.  Set
> > aperature to 4mb and it effectively disables sidebanding. Often
> > that cures many AGP problems.
>
> Tom, I went and "googlized" -agp sidebanding- and some of it got
> pretty hairy. Can you give an understandable definition? :-)


   No ;)  Can't say I understand it any better than you, but I can 
copy'n paste ;)
"Sideband Addressing Mode - This mode offers the highest level of 
AGP performance. In addition to allowing multiple outstanding 
transactions and non-coherent access to main memory, Sideband 
Addressing introduces a separate address/command bus, the Sideband 
Address Port (SBA). Because the SBA and data buses are not 
multiplexed, the graphic controller can use the SBA to make data 
requests without interrupting the data bus."
 
Now AGP compared to PCI video (AGP is just a subset spec of the 
PCI bus), imposes more cpu, chipset and other hardware resource 
loads. As always, 'highest' optimization can lead to problems as 
well as benefits. Particularly with some cpu's, some motherboard 
chipsets, and some ram, or various combinations of all those, or 
overclocked hardware.  If disabling it eliminates or reduces video 
problems, then AGP sidebanding doesn't like your hardware or how 
it's configured.

   Then there's the linux kernel in the mix. I just read an article 
this mornin about linux - P4, i875 chipset compatibility. One work 
around was to disable AGP. From experience, I believe setting the 
aperature to 4 in bios would work too. I wasn't too sure where they 
were advocating puttin “agp_try_unsupported=1”. XF86Config-4 ?
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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday June 9 2003 02:44 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:
> i don't know if it applies to linux but in windows 128 is
> normal...not matter what size your video ram is.  Tho 64 is safe
> if you feel 128 is pushing it too hard.

It'll probly never go to 64 even if it set higher.  Set 
aperature to 4mb and it effectively disables sidebanding. Often 
that cures many AGP problems.
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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[FemmeFatale]

At 09:53 AM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Monday 09 June 2003 07:20 am, ed tharp wrote:

> what about agp memory aperture?

I have a 64 meg Ti4200 Nvidia card so I set the aperture to 64 megs.

Is that okay?

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Monday 09 June 2003 07:20 am, ed tharp wrote:

> what about agp memory aperture?

I have a 64 meg Ti4200 Nvidia card so I set the aperture to 64 megs.

Is that okay?

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[ed tharp]

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 00:41, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Sunday 08 June 2003 07:03 pm, ed tharp wrote:
> 
> > and what are we doing about acpi, apm, apic, both in BIOS and software,
> > and what is the AGP settings? also, does this MoBo bios rest to defaults
> > when it crashes? (I mean when you have to power off by the switch, if
> > ever?)
> 
> Acpi and apic are turned off in lilo.conf, and apm is turned off under 
> services. Don't remember BIOS settings for the first 2, but apm is turned off 
> for all events in BIOS except to kick the monitor off after so long.
> 
> The AGP settings in BIOS are all turned off by default except for post-write 
> (IIRC).

what about agp memory aperture?

> 
> Its a Soyo Dragon Plus MB, I don't think it does reset. Anyways, the crash is 
> not hard, just back to the shell. "startx" takes you right back to KDE.
> 
> Thanks!


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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[FemmeFatale]

At 12:37 AM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Sunday 08 June 2003 06:49 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:

> Try disabling DPMS?  Thats what i'd do first off...
> -
> FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
>
> Good Decisions Your boss Made:
> "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
> character from Peanuts."
>
> - Source: Dilbert
Hmm, I can try that. Have you had trouble with it before?

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 08 June 2003 07:09 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

> Have you check the system logs to see what's also happening at the same
> time you're crashing? And, BTW, have you double checked your lib path
> settings in the /etc/ld.so.conf and the likes? Have you rerun ldconfig?
> Have you run updatedb? What "services" are running that might not be
> necessary? What proggies are starting up when you fire up KDE?

Checked /var/log/messages and .xsession-errors. Nothing obvious.

Ran ldconfig once after installing the Nvidia drivers. Ran updatedb after 
first installing v9.1. I've been thru services, AFAICT, non-essentials are 
turned off. I've not set any "proggies"  to auto start with KDE.

Here is my ld.so.conf file:

/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/qt3/lib

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 08 June 2003 07:03 pm, ed tharp wrote:

> and what are we doing about acpi, apm, apic, both in BIOS and software,
> and what is the AGP settings? also, does this MoBo bios rest to defaults
> when it crashes? (I mean when you have to power off by the switch, if
> ever?)

Acpi and apic are turned off in lilo.conf, and apm is turned off under 
services. Don't remember BIOS settings for the first 2, but apm is turned off 
for all events in BIOS except to kick the monitor off after so long.

The AGP settings in BIOS are all turned off by default except for post-write 
(IIRC).

Its a Soyo Dragon Plus MB, I don't think it does reset. Anyways, the crash is 
not hard, just back to the shell. "startx" takes you right back to KDE.

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 08 June 2003 06:49 pm, FemmeFatale wrote:

> Try disabling DPMS?  Thats what i'd do first off...
> -
> FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
>
> Good Decisions Your boss Made:
> "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
> character from Peanuts."
>
> - Source: Dilbert

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 01:46, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> Got an odd problem here - only since I've been using v9.1 of Mandrake 
> (download edition).
> 
> Every so often - and I'm talking like every 5-10-15 mins or so, X crashes back 
> to the shell. Always the same message, "caught signal 11, fatal server 
> error". Sometimes it crashes sitting still, no games running, no screensaver, 
> just sitting there - boom - back to the shell.
> 
> I checked the Xfree logs, it just says the same thing.

Have you check the system logs to see what's also happening at the same
time you're crashing? And, BTW, have you double checked your lib path
settings in the /etc/ld.so.conf and the likes? Have you rerun ldconfig?
Have you run updatedb? What "services" are running that might not be
necessary? What proggies are starting up when you fire up KDE?

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[ed tharp]

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 18:49, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 11:46 AM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Got an odd problem here - only since I've been using v9.1 of Mandrake
> >(download edition).
> >
> >Every so often - and I'm talking like every 5-10-15 mins or so, X crashes 
> >back
> >to the shell. Always the same message, "caught signal 11, fatal server
> >error". Sometimes it crashes sitting still, no games running, no screensaver,
> >just sitting there - boom - back to the shell.
> >
> >I checked the Xfree logs, it just says the same thing.
> >
> >I've got an Nvidia Ti4200 (64 megs) card, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, and am using
> >the latest 4349 drivers.
> >
> >Here is my XF86Config-4 file:
> >
> ># File generated by XFdrake.
> >
> >
> >Any help, hints, clues or observations would be appreciated!
> >
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> 
> 
> Try disabling DPMS?  Thats what i'd do first off...
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and what are we doing about acpi, apm, apic, both in BIOS and software,
and what is the AGP settings? also, does this MoBo bios rest to defaults
when it crashes? (I mean when you have to power off by the switch, if
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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[FemmeFatale]

At 11:46 AM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Got an odd problem here - only since I've been using v9.1 of Mandrake
(download edition).
Every so often - and I'm talking like every 5-10-15 mins or so, X crashes 
back
to the shell. Always the same message, "caught signal 11, fatal server
error". Sometimes it crashes sitting still, no games running, no screensaver,
just sitting there - boom - back to the shell.

I checked the Xfree logs, it just says the same thing.

I've got an Nvidia Ti4200 (64 megs) card, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, and am using
the latest 4349 drivers.
Here is my XF86Config-4 file:

# File generated by XFdrake.


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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[JoeHill]

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 14:52:21 -0400
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> Hmm, I'd like to know how to tell the difference? 

well, I am only basing that theory on the fact that x is not crashing
when you first open it, but later on, perhaps by something running in
the background.

> I couldn't get anything helpful out of the log files...

one thing that *might* give you more info is if you send all X output to
a text file. to do this, you must start x manually from text mode (ie.
runlevel 3), like so:

kde > ~/xoutput.txt

that way you might see the actual error when it occurs. of course this
is the same thing that would come up on TTY1, but that is usually off
the screen by the time you crash out to text mode, and I am not sure
that the X log will record everything that happens, anyone else know
whether it does or not?

also look in /var/log/messages for errors that may be less related to X,
but could potentially crash it.

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Re: [newbie] X crashing problem

[JoeHill]

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:46:28 -0400
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:

> 
> Got an odd problem here - only since I've been using v9.1 of Mandrake 
> (download edition).
> 
> Every so often - and I'm talking like every 5-10-15 mins or so, X
> crashes back to the shell. Always the same message, "caught signal 11,
> fatal server error". Sometimes it crashes sitting still, no games
> running, no screensaver, just sitting there - boom - back to the
> shell.

which desktop enviro are you running? the xfconfig looks right, you're
loading the NVidia drivers and GLX. could it be though, that it crashed
when the screensaver *attempts* to run, or are you saying you've
disabled the screensaver entirely?

a signal 11 is just a segfault IIRC, means some app hit a block it
couldn't get around. If it was XWindows that was *immediately* giving
you a signal 11, i'd be concerned. in this case I would bet it's just an
individual app.

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[newbie] X crashing problem

[Ronald J. Hall]

Got an odd problem here - only since I've been using v9.1 of Mandrake 
(download edition).

Every so often - and I'm talking like every 5-10-15 mins or so, X crashes back 
to the shell. Always the same message, "caught signal 11, fatal server 
error". Sometimes it crashes sitting still, no games running, no screensaver, 
just sitting there - boom - back to the shell.

I checked the Xfree logs, it just says the same thing.

I've got an Nvidia Ti4200 (64 megs) card, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, and am using 
the latest 4349 drivers.

Here is my XF86Config-4 file:

# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section "Files"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#DontZap # disable  (server abort)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse 
doesn't work
#DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbCompat" ""
Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"
VendorName "Generic"
ModelName "1024x768 @ 70 Hz"
HorizSync 31.5-57.0
VertRefresh 50-70

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 
-hsync -vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "NV AGP"
VendorName "nvidia"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic)"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "DPMS"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen AGP"
Device "NV AGP"
Monitor "monitor1"
DefaultColorDepth 16

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "AGP"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
Screen "Screen AGP"
EndSection

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Re: [newbie] X Font Server Problem

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 07:33, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> Is what my problem is that I have somehow lost my "fixed" font in my
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc folder which is preventing x from
> starting.
> 
> Does anyone know where to get this font? I cannot find it anywhere.
> 
> Matt Mahoney

Nothing will delete that font - but if for some reason your Xconfigs are
mucked up, then X  won't start - and might give you font errors. There
are a few /tmp directories created when X is run or configured, and you
might want to check to see if they're either there, or not there. Have
you tried a reboot?

Overall, here's some things to ask yourself:

What has changed or been added or reconfigured since this last worked
properly?

Have you changed or added hardware?

Have you deleted any files (fonts aren't that easy to find and delete)
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[newbie] X Font Server Problem

[Matt Mahoney]

Is what my problem is that I have somehow lost my "fixed" font in my
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc folder which is preventing x from
starting.

Does anyone know where to get this font? I cannot find it anywhere.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [newbie] X not starting at boot

[Pupeno]

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On Saturday 25 January 2003 01:52 am, Pupeno wrote:
> On Thursday 23 January 2003 03:56 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 16:50, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > > Do a:
> > > chkconfig --list dm
> > > It should show:
> > > dm  0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:on  6:off
> > >
> > > If level 5 is off, turn it on with
> > > chkconfig --level 5 dm on
> >
> > Do the same for the X Font Server, i.e:
> > chkconfig --list xfs
> > And so on.
>
> Both are on:
> # chkconfig --list xfs
> xfs 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
> # chkconfig --list dm
> dm  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:on6:off
> There seems to be more problems, with the autologin, so, I'll check that
> too.
Yes, the problem where autologin, now, solved.
It was trying to autologin to /home/pupeno instead of to pupeno, I don't know 
why, I changed that and I also disabled it because I didn't want it, where is 
that configured from the GUI ?
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Re: Re: Re: [newbie] X not starting at boot

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On Thursday 23 January 2003 03:56 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 16:50, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > Do a:
> > chkconfig --list dm
> > It should show:
> > dm  0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:on  6:off
> >
> > If level 5 is off, turn it on with
> > chkconfig --level 5 dm on
>
> Do the same for the X Font Server, i.e:
> chkconfig --list xfs
> And so on.
Both are on:
# chkconfig --list xfs
xfs 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
# chkconfig --list dm
dm  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:on6:off
There seems to be more problems, with the autologin, so, I'll check that too.
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Re: Re: [newbie] X not starting at boot

[Adolfo Bello]

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 16:50, Adolfo Bello wrote:

> Do a:
> chkconfig --list dm
> It should show:
> dm  0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:on  6:off
> 
> If level 5 is off, turn it on with
> chkconfig --level 5 dm on

Do the same for the X Font Server, i.e:
chkconfig --list xfs
And so on.
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Re: Re: [newbie] X not starting at boot

[Adolfo Bello]

On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 06:50, Pupeno wrote:
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> On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 18:20, Pupeno wrote:
> > > I've installed MDK 9.0 and everything was working ok, but after making
> > > all the updates, X stoped starting at boot.
> > > If I run /etc/rc.d/init.d/dm start by had it works, but it doesn't work
> > > automatically.
> > > It was at position 30 which didn't seem to be right, dm run beforre http
> > > even! I think it wasn't starting because the framebuffer interface was
> > > already up, I may be wrong, but I moved dm to 99 and it worked, once,
> > > now, it's not working anymore. I see starting dm in the framebuffer
> > > interface, it says ok, but after that, all I get is the console.
> > > Does anybody know what might be wrong here ?
> > > Thanks.
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> >
> > Open up your /etc/inittab - you will probably see that the default
> > runlevel is set to 3 - change it to 5 and after a reboot, you should get
> > your nice KDM/GDM/XDM back to normal (see example below):
> 
> It is still set to 5 as it was all the time.
> Thanks.
Do a:
chkconfig --list dm
It should show:
dm  0:off  1:off  2:off  3:off  4:off  5:on  6:off

If level 5 is off, turn it on with
chkconfig --level 5 dm on

 
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[newbie] X not starting at boot

[Pupeno]

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I've installed MDK 9.0 and everything was working ok, but after making all the 
updates, X stoped starting at boot.
If I run /etc/rc.d/init.d/dm start by had it works, but it doesn't work 
automatically.
It was at position 30 which didn't seem to be right, dm run beforre http even!
I think it wasn't starting because the framebuffer interface was already up, I 
may be wrong, but I moved dm to 99 and it worked, once, now, it's not working 
anymore. I see starting dm in the framebuffer interface, it says ok, but 
after that, all I get is the console.
Does anybody know what might be wrong here ?
Thanks.
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Re: [newbie] X-CD-Roast, last news

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 15:02, Pilagá wrote:
> Features included in new version 0.98alpha13:
> Easy setup and intuitive X11 user interface 
> GUI based on GTK+ instead of TCL/TK (100% new C-code) 
> Copies most data/mixed-mode/audio-CDs (data also on-the-fly) 
> Master data-CDs and rearrange audio-CDs (data also on-the-fly) 
> Create your own audio-CDs (full Disk-at-Once support) 
> Multisession/Bootable CD creation. 
> "Supports most SCSI/ATAPI/Parallel/Firewire/USB-CD-Writers available"
> Supports different international languages 
> CDDB-Lookups and CD-Text writing 
> Online help 
> Administration mode for usage in computer pools. 
> Fully themeable via GTK-Themes 
> Runs on most common Unix-Operation-Systems (Primary platforms: Linux and 
> Solaris) 
> Does only need root to install - then it will work also as normal user 
> (non-root mode) 
> DVD-Writing
> 
>   Happy burnings.
> 
>   Pilagá 

Too bad it won't do what I REALLY want it to do...but that's a different
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Re: [newbie] X shutting down when in console

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 04:56, Christian Goldstein wrote:
> Hiya!
> 
> Strange things happen in my Linux installation No matter what 
> WindowManager I use, whenever I dare go to the console via Alt+Ctrl+F1 (or 2, 
> or 3...) my WM shuts down for some odd reason. 
> 
> Anyone have a clue whats going on?
> 
>- Christian
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[newbie] X shutting down when in console

[Christian Goldstein]

Hiya!

Strange things happen in my Linux installation No matter what 
WindowManager I use, whenever I dare go to the console via Alt+Ctrl+F1 (or 2, 
or 3...) my WM shuts down for some odd reason. 

Anyone have a clue whats going on?

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[newbie] X not shutting down cleanly

[tim lentowitz]

Hello,

i have lm 8.2 and set it up for run level 5, medium security.  for one of my 
user id's whenever I log out the system just hangs.  the only thing that 
works to get the system to respond is ctrl-alt-f1, then i have a logon 
again, su to root, then reboot the machine (because if i try to do startx it 
tells me an x session is still running).

if i log on as other users things are fine.  i log on.  i log off. back to 
the graphical log on screen as expected.

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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Sharrea]

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 6:19 am, Robin Turner wrote:
> Dale Huckeby wrote:
> >   Bummer.  So it's not an X problem per se.  Afraid I'm out of my
> > depth, but I did do a quick Google search on dcopserver, and found a
> > conversation about inability to start kde.  Are you able to use a
> > browser?  If so: 
> > should take you to that page, if I haven't flubbed the copying.  The
> > most useful comment I found (since it's on a Solaris I don't know how
> > useful it'll be) is that you should do chmod 01777 on three files:
> > /tmp/.ICE-unix
> > /tmp/.X11-pipe
> > /tmp/.X11-unix
> > Haven't investigated further, and don't know how Solaris' file
> > structure might differ from Mandrake's, but maybe this is a lead that
> > might turn out to be useful.
>
> Check permissions in pam.conf as well.
> Sir Robin

Thanks Robin, I'll look in PAM.  Just did a quick check and I don't have a 
pam.conf file but according to "man pam.conf" the files in /etc/pam.d/ do 
the same thing so I will look through those.

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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Sharrea]

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 4:41 am, Dale Huckeby wrote:

>   Bummer.  So it's not an X problem per se.  Afraid I'm out of my depth,
> but I did do a quick Google search on dcopserver, and found a
> conversation about inability to start kde.  Are you able to use a
> browser?  If so: 
> should take you to that page, if I haven't flubbed the copying.  The
> most useful comment I found (since it's on a Solaris I don't know how
> useful it'll be) is that you should do chmod 01777 on three files:
> /tmp/.ICE-unix
> /tmp/.X11-pipe
> /tmp/.X11-unix
> Haven't investigated further, and don't know how Solaris' file structure
> might differ from Mandrake's, but maybe this is a lead that might turn
> out to be useful.

Thanks Dale, I'll reinstall the nvidia drivers again and try that.

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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Dale Huckeby]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Sharrea wrote:

> On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote:
>> after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get
>> the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a
>> couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first
>> install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had
>> to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze
>> after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i
>> had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't
>> start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme,
>> mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file
>> was fine.
>>
>> after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be
>> to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a
>> pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight
>> forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with
>> the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics
>> are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because
>> i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of
>> a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know
>> how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks
>
> Firstly, I apologise for the long message.
> 
> 
> Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch 
> break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO!
> Didn't have a problem in 8.1.  I have been trying to get the drivers 
> working on and off for weeks!  I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just 
> so I can play Quake3 and UT2003.
> 
> I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and the 
> tarballs.  I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using the 
> enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM).  I did get the club enterprise rpm with 
> urpmi.
> 
> After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start FluxBox, 
> BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use KDE).  
> I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user:
> 
> There was an error setting up inter-process
> communications for KDE.  Tthe message returned
> by the system was:
> 
> Could not read network connection list:
> /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0
> 
> Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
> 
> 
> Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace 
> but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end 
> process, sync and reboot.
> 
> Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I 
> can play tuxracer and UT2003.
> 
> I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are 
> installed correctly.  I tried all the different options for "NvAGP" and 
> added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf.  One thing I noticed is 
> that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get 
> nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc).  And another thing I noticed is that 
> stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to 
> devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop 
> devfsd from starting at boot!  I've been searching all over the net for 
> answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but 
> like I said, no go.
> 
> Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just 
> about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for 
> 9.0.  Guess I'll just have to use RH  : (
> 
> 
> OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 
> 9.0 without a hitch.  Oh, I'm so envious.

  I've had devfsd problems before, so anymore I just don't install it.
I don't know if uninstalling it will have the same benefit, but it's worth
a shot.  Also, you've probably already been through this, but if you're
using the nvidia 3123 drivers instead of 2960, that's likely your problem 
right there.  The newer drivers screwed my and apparently some others' 
screens up good.  

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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Dale Huckeby]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rainer wrote:

> Where can I find those old .29xx drivers? thanks.
 
  Go to <http://www.nvidia.com/>
  Click on "Download Drivers"
  Click on "Linux Display Drivers"
  Choose second rather than first driver in list.  That will take you to
the download page for the 2960 driver files.  Good luck!

Dale Huckeby


> - Original Message -
> From: "Dale Huckeby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...
> 
>>> . . .
>>> OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers
>>> working in 9.0 without a hitch.  Oh, I'm so envious.
>>
>>   I've had devfsd problems before, so anymore I just don't install it.
>> I don't know if uninstalling it will have the same benefit, but it's worth
>> a shot.  Also, you've probably already been through this, but if you're
>> using the nvidia 3123 drivers instead of 2960, that's likely your problem
>> right there.  The newer drivers screwed my and apparently some others'
>> screens up good.
>>
>> Dale Huckeby



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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Sharrea]

Thanks bascule, but I already did remove ~/.DCOP* and /tmp/* (countless 
times) but that made no difference.  Also removed ~/.ICEauthority ~/.mcoprc 
~/.mcop/ - also didn't help.  Obviously, one of the files that Gnome and 
KDE use is getting stuffed up.  Thanks for the reply tho.

Ah well...
Sharrea

On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 8:37 pm, bascule wrote:
> that error is not an nvidia error,
> i could be wrong but open a console and delete the following
> ~/.DCOP*
> yo should find that kde now starts, at least that what i have done when i
> had that error, i also emptied /tmp but i don't think that is necessary
>
> bascule
>
> On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 7:57 am, Sharrea wrote:

> > I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user: 
> > 
> > There was an error setting up inter-process
> > communications for KDE.  Tthe message returned
> > by the system was:
> >
> > Could not read network connection list:
> > /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0
> >
> > Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
> > 
> >
> > Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I
> > CTRL+ALT+Backspace but it usually ends up hanging and I use the
> > ALT+SysRq combinations to end process, sync and reboot.
> >
> > Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but
> > I can play tuxracer and UT2003.


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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[bascule]

that error is not an nvidia error,
i could be wrong but open a console and delete the following 
~/.DCOP*
yo should find that kde now starts, at least that what i have done when i had 
that error, i also emptied /tmp but i don't think that is necessary

bascule

On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 7:57 am, Sharrea wrote:
> On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote:
> > after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get
> > the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a
> > couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first
> > install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had
> > to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze
> > after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i
> > had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't
> > start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme,
> > mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file
> > was fine.
> >
> > after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be
> > to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a
> > pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight
> > forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with
> > the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics
> > are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because
> > i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of
> > a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know
> > how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks
>
> Firstly, I apologise for the long message.
>
> 
> Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch
> break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO!
> Didn't have a problem in 8.1.  I have been trying to get the drivers
> working on and off for weeks!  I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just
> so I can play Quake3 and UT2003.
>
> I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and
> the tarballs.  I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using
> the enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM).  I did get the club enterprise rpm
> with urpmi.
>
> After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start
> FluxBox, BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use
> KDE). I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user:
> 
> There was an error setting up inter-process
> communications for KDE.  Tthe message returned
> by the system was:
>
> Could not read network connection list:
> /home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0
>
> Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
> 
>
> Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace
> but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end
> process, sync and reboot.
>
> Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I
> can play tuxracer and UT2003.
>
> I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are
> installed correctly.  I tried all the different options for "NvAGP" and
> added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf.  One thing I noticed is
> that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get
> nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc).  And another thing I noticed is that
> stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to
> devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop
> devfsd from starting at boot!  I've been searching all over the net for
> answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but
> like I said, no go.
>
> Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just
> about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for
> 9.0.  Guess I'll just have to use RH  : (
> 
>
> OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working
> in 9.0 without a hitch.  Oh, I'm so envious.
>
> Sharrea

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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia drivers ...

[Sharrea]

On Thursday 24 Oct 2002 4:52 pm, Rainer wrote:
> after using mdk 8.2 for almost 8 months, i still seem to be unable to get
> the x server and my nvidia card to coexist peacefully. it took me a
> couple of months to get it to be relatively stable after the first
> install. i got the glx and kernel rpms at that time and i believe i had
> to reinstall the kernel drivers from tar.gz. my news readers still froze
> after this (pan, mozilla, knode) but the rest seemed alright. recently, i
> had to reinstall mdk 8.2. i got the latest drivers and my x server won't
> start at all. checked all the documentation i could find, nvidia readme,
> mandrake user nvidia section and i'm still at a loss, the config-4 file
> was fine.
>
> after spending about 10 hours on this the easiest thing to do seems to be
> to reinstall. but i don't want to go through that again unless i have a
> pretty good idea about what the problem is, and a relatively straight
> forward solution (this is a newbie speaking!) does 9.0 deal better with
> the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400? i installed red hat 8.0 and the graphics
> are rock solid so far. i would like to continue with mandrake because
> i've spent some time with it and know it better but not at the expense of
> a monitor that freezes regularly. i'd appreciate an honest answer, i know
> how these distribution biases color peoples judgement. thanks

Firstly, I apologise for the long message.


Well... today I have just spent from 7.15am to 6.45pm (minus 1/2 hour lunch 
break) trying to get the nvidia drivers working in 9.0 AND STILL NO GO!
Didn't have a problem in 8.1.  I have been trying to get the drivers 
working on and off for weeks!  I ended up installing RH7.3 (dual boot) just 
so I can play Quake3 and UT2003.

I've tried (and retried each many times), the club rpms, source rpms and the 
tarballs.  I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I'm using the 
enterprise kernel (1024 MB RAM).  I did get the club enterprise rpm with 
urpmi.

After installing the drivers (and editing XF86Config-4) I can start FluxBox, 
BlackBox, Enlightenment, etc but I can't start Gnome or KDE (I use KDE).  
I get the following error when trying to start KDE as root or user:

There was an error setting up inter-process
communications for KDE.  Tthe message returned
by the system was:

Could not read network connection list:
/home/sharrea/.DCOPserver_tbird.tux.nz__0

Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!


Then the system takes forever to try to recover when I CTRL+ALT+Backspace 
but it usually ends up hanging and I use the ALT+SysRq combinations to end 
process, sync and reboot.

Also the KDE apps like kedit, kmail, etc won't run in the other WMs but I 
can play tuxracer and UT2003.

I checked (many times) that the libglx*, libGL.so* and libGLcore* files are 
installed correctly.  I tried all the different options for "NvAGP" and 
added all sorts of things to /etc/modules.conf.  One thing I noticed is 
that I only have nvidia0 and nvidiactl in the /dev dir (I don't get 
nvidia1, nvidia2 or nvidia3, etc).  And another thing I noticed is that 
stopping the devfsd service on boot and editing /etc/lilo.conf to 
devfs=nomount (+ running /sbin/lilo afterwards) then rebooting doesn't stop 
devfsd from starting at boot!  I've been searching all over the net for 
answers and trying suggestions given to others with a similar problem but 
like I said, no go.

Anyway I've rebooted and shutdown about 30-40 times today and I've just 
about had enough so I think I'll just give up on the nvidia drivers for 
9.0.  Guess I'll just have to use RH  : (


OK, having said all that, many others have got the nvidia drivers working in 
9.0 without a hitch.  Oh, I'm so envious.

Sharrea
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Re: [newbie] X, nVidia problems ...

[Robert Beach]

On Thursday 17 October 2002 03:03 pm, Bart Salien wrote:
> Op Thursday 17 October 2002 20:01, schreef u:
Not Quite on the subject but pretty close.  I have 9.0 installed and my GForce 
4 is using the generic Nvidia driver right now.  All I found at the nvidia 
site was for 8.2.  I'm probably guessing right, but I'm not able to use those 
drivers. Correct?
I've downloaded them but haven't done anything yet until I get a yes or a no 
on this.  
Any info would be greatly appreciated.  Thank You.


> Mine worked after first erasing the old GLX files and afterwards installing
> the new nvidia GLX rpm .
> Also don't forget to change some setting in your XF86Config-4 (see nvidia
> docs).
>
> > hello,
> >
> > tried to install some new nvid drivers for man 8.2, went to nvidia,
> > matched the kernel and glx (3XXX) versions. the kernel installed fine,
> > but the glx didn't want to. used the '-e' option outlined in the nvid
> > read me and it installed but now X won't start at boot up! since i'm no
> > expert on the console, i'm in trouble deep. any way to get myself out of
> > this mess that isn't too complicated? any help would be appreciated.
> > thanks



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Re: [newbie] X Problem on Compaq Presario 2710US

[Anthony Abby]

I forgot to mention the video card is an ATI Radeon Mobility LY (AGP).  I've tried the 
generic Radeon driver, the Radeon Mobility driver, and the Radeon Mobility 
what_ever_it_is driver.

I've run a search in google for "Mandrake" and "radeon mobility ly" and came up with 
only one hit that was close to my problem, but it was in regards to Mandrake 8.2 with 
an older kernel.  There suggestion was to upgrade the kernel, well this is a newer 
kernel, similiar problem.  I wish there was a search engine on the list archives but I 
have been looking through the past few months of posts... I just don't see anything 
else close to my problem.

Hope someone out there can point me in the right direction.

Thanks
Anthony


-- Original Message --
From: "Anthony Abby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:32:13 -0400

>I'm having a problem getting X to start up properly on my Compaq Presario 2710US 
>laptop.  X actually starts but the colors are all off.  If I log in as root the 
>background is a hideous shade of light blue.  The colors are almost washed out.  The 
>KDE splash screen is actually gold!
>
>I've run XFdrake several times and tried different combinations... such as generic 
>flatscreen - 1024 x 768 and also generic 1024 x 768 screen.  I have color depth set 
>to 24-bit but also tried 16-bit.  Both result in the same color depth problem.  In 
>either case though, if I TEST the settings before restarting X, the color bars look 
>just fine.  It's only when I 'startx' that this color problem occurs.
>
>Has anyone heard of this problem or know what I might do to fix it?  I already 
>checked out http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/xwin/xtroub.html.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>Anthony
>
>
>


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