RE: [newbie] Video Card Problems
Josh, Have you got the screen and the monitor set up to be the same res? Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Video Card Problems Hi again everyone. I've finally got Mandrake 92 up and running, can get to kde, got my video card configured, but somethings not quite right. When I have the resolution at 800x600 my screen is too small for the resolution, I need to move the mouse over to see the rest of the desktop. When I set it at 640x480 some of mandrakes config windows are too large for me to get to the OK buttons. I've spent hours (it seems like) choosing different configurations for the video card and have only got this one to work. The card is an S3 Trio 3d Onboard (86C386). I'm beginning to think I may need a new video card. Any more suggestions? Thanks, Josh -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Problems
At 09:48 AM 1/28/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again everyone. I've finally got Mandrake 92 up and running, can get to kde, got my video card configured, but somethings not quite right. When I have the resolution at 800x600 my screen is too small for the resolution, I need to move the mouse over to see the rest of the desktop. When I set it at 640x480 some of mandrakes config windows are too large for me to get to the OK buttons. I've spent hours (it seems like) choosing different configurations for the video card and have only got this one to work. The card is an S3 Trio 3d Onboard (86C386). I'm beginning to think I may need a new video card. Any more suggestions? If this is onboard video (as its name implies), perhaps there is a BIOS setting to give it more RAM? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video Card Problems
Um, I don't know. What is the differnce/how do I change them? Josh, Have you got the screen and the monitor set up to be the same res? Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Video Card Problems Hi again everyone. I've finally got Mandrake 92 up and running, can get to kde, got my video card configured, but somethings not quite right. When I have the resolution at 800x600 my screen is too small for the resolution, I need to move the mouse over to see the rest of the desktop. When I set it at 640x480 some of mandrakes config windows are too large for me to get to the OK buttons. I've spent hours (it seems like) choosing different configurations for the video card and have only got this one to work. The card is an S3 Trio 3d Onboard (86C386). I'm beginning to think I may need a new video card. Any more suggestions? Thanks, Josh -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Problems
Awesome! That was it! Thanks Tony! Josh From: Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:27:39 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card Problems Josh, Have you got the screen and the monitor set up to be the same res? Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Video Card Problems Hi again everyone. I've finally got Mandrake 92 up and running, can get to kde, got my video card configured, but somethings not quite right. When I have the resolution at 800x600 my screen is too small for the resolution, I need to move the mouse over to see the rest of the desktop. When I set it at 640x480 some of mandrakes config windows are too large for me to get to the OK buttons. I've spent hours (it seems like) choosing different configurations for the video card and have only got this one to work. The card is an S3 Trio 3d Onboard (86C386). I'm beginning to think I may need a new video card. Any more suggestions? Thanks, Josh -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I have sent you my lilo.conf off list. - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 09:52, Cody Harris wrote: I have sent you my lilo.conf off list. - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Got it, and replied with changes to lilo.conf, and a short explanation of passing the mem=xxxM to the kernel in the append statement in lilo that I hope will help and make sense. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo boot menu. How do i fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:42:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo boot menu. How do i fix this? You can pass the parameter vga=normal, either at boot or by adding it to your lilo.conf This will ensure that your system boots without framebuffer. Unfortunately this is not the root cause of the difficulties which you are having. As XFree evolves and new cards and chipsets are become supported a consequence is that some older chipsets/cards are no longer supported. In the case of the s3 Trio64, when using XFree-4.3, Only those cards which have IBM RGB 524, Texas Instruments 3025, or an internal TrioDAC RAMDAC chip have 3d support. AFAIR the latest version of XFree in which your card would be fully supported was 3.3.6 Using XFdrake you can switch to XFree-3.3.6 from whatever 4.x.x version you are now currently running. Though their recent offerings are becoming better I, personally, view with disdain the s3 tag since, as at inception they were a 'base' 'windblows' offering which allowed 'cost-cutting' by computer butchers. In the case of vid cards, though they can at time be a hassle, I will stick with either ATI or NVIDIA, with my preference being ATI. If you have an avaiable AGP slot I would consider a change. If this is a viable option if you contact me off-list I may be able, for a song, to offer you an alternative. If this is not an alternative you may need to consider dropping 3d and using the svga server/driver. Charles -- 42 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.22-0.5mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:42, Cody Harris wrote: You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo boot menu. How do i fix this? see Charles's reply, he is absolutely correct. but also check your lilo for the mem statement, since this is an on-board shared video memory video chipset. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I'm a little confused here. Should i or shouldn't i use Xfree 4.3? I don't care about 3d support because i'm not playing any games. I'll try the lilo and stuff in a minute. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta, where can i get it? card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or* you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but check it out on the MDK site. Is beta under download? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
OH! I forgot to mention, i had an instal;l of 8.1 and it worked fine. Must have changed some stuff that would cause this. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I attached the file Here's your prob right here: Section Device Identifier S3 Trio64V2 (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver vga #VideoRam1024 # Clock lines whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp. In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake. oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC. bash: XFFrake: command not found give that a shot and report back! -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:29:42 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Oops, disregard that. THIS is the correct file: same prob, same steps. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:42 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Video driver: DESCRIPTION: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR MANUFACTURER: S3 Compatible Display Adapter BIOS: 60.00.06 DATE: 09/20/02 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any idea's suggestions? How is it shown in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. At least it works if i stay out of anything higher then 8 bit (800x600 works). KDE just doesn't work at all. Gnome works. IceWM or whatever works, just KDE doesn't. Weird eh? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP disabled) (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20) Coppied that by hand... and cat /proc/pci say? PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 3). Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff]. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 32). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf]. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or* you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but check it out on the MDK site. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I recently downloaded Mandrake 9.1 and was testing it. In installed it and everything worked fine from the install, SVGA, the whole bit. I restarted the computer, and when it got to starting x, that's where it had problems. The normal grey texture came up, ok, and that funny blue background ok, but as soon as it started to display the login box it just appears and before i can really even see it, it goes away and the screen flickers and goes black, and tried to load it again. It does that a few times then goes to console, not giving any errors. I log in and type startx. It loads, and the screen starts with a red baclground, and the KDE taskbar comes up for a couple seconds, then goes away. The scrren at that point stays red. I ran some tests on my video card when i was using windows and it told me: Video driver: DESCRIPTION: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR MANUFACTURER: S3 Compatible Display Adapter BIOS: 60.00.06 DATE: 09/20/02 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any idea's suggestions? -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:29, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. then login first? Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx. Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I attached the file - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:42 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Video driver: DESCRIPTION: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR MANUFACTURER: S3 Compatible Display Adapter BIOS: 60.00.06 DATE: 09/20/02 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any idea's suggestions? How is it shown in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com XF86Config-4 Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:12, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP disabled) (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20) Coppied that by hand... and cat /proc/pci say? PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 3). Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff]. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 32). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf]. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ok now we know you have an S3 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+ And that is a chipset I see in XFdrake under S3. try that one yet? I'm currently using Trio 64, but i can't get higher then 8 bit. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:12, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP disabled) (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20) Coppied that by hand... and cat /proc/pci say? PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 3). Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff]. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 32). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf]. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ok now we know you have an S3 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+ And that is a chipset I see in XFdrake under S3. try that one yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:48, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta, where can i get it? card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or* you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but check it out on the MDK site. I just joined the list am late in this thread so I may be off beam but I think there is a problem for S3 Trio with some of the XFree versions. I believe v4.0 and 4.2 are ok, but 4.1 and 4.3 are broken. There are binary drivers available on the S3 site - google get it. HTH Bob Parker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx. Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and have you been to http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:29, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. then login first? I was logged in. But i changed display managers from the mandrake one to Gnome, and that works and i can choose KDE from there. Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx. Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I attached the file Here's your prob right here: Section Device Identifier S3 Trio64V2 (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver vga #VideoRam1024 # Clock lines whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp. In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake. oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC. bash: XFFrake: command not found give that a shot and report back! -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Card
Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 12:49, Russ wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ What's not compatible about the NVidia GF2 64mb AGP card? The drivers are there, the utils for tweaking it are there - MDK works happy with it - what wrong with this card that you're chucking it for something else? Sorry, but I love my NVidia...they're great cards! -- Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:55:00 +1100 12:55pm up 8 days, 22:38, 6 users, load average: 0.07, 0.10, 0.13 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The nicest thing about the Alto is that it doesn't run faster at night. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
I have the same exact card and it has no problems what so ever in linux. And I too purchased it for T2...but now I am addicted to Bzflags! LOL Follow the instructions on the nvidia site for installing the drivers for it and you shouldn't have any problems. If you do, write back and we can help ya out. Good Luck/ On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:49:45 -0800 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ -- Linux user #280097 Machine #162480 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
On Friday 24 January 2003 07:49 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ I also use a GeForce 2 card and have no problems, in fact I am thinking of getting another for my other computer, just so I don't have to switch to play UT2003 -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:19, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 24 January 2003 07:49 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ I also use a GeForce 2 card and have no problems, in fact I am thinking of getting another for my other computer, just so I don't have to switch to play UT2003 ...too bad there ain't 2 AGP slots on the motherboard - I wouldn't mind having two...(and no, I don't want to do the TV out crap) -- Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:20:00 +1100 2:20pm up 9 days, 3 min, 6 users, load average: 1.04, 0.83, 0.49 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Arithmetic is being able to count up to twenty without taking off your shoes. -- Mickey Mouse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:19, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 24 January 2003 07:49 pm, Russ wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ I also use a GeForce 2 card and have no problems, in fact I am thinking of getting another for my other computer, just so I don't have to switch to play UT2003 ...too bad there ain't 2 AGP slots on the motherboard - I wouldn't mind having two...(and no, I don't want to do the TV out crap) Could get a PCI version ? I am thinking of doing that so I can use two monitors for S/W development and debug on same machine. Richard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:46, Richard Ingram wrote: Could get a PCI version ? I am thinking of doing that so I can use two monitors for S/W development and debug on same machine. Richard. Sure - but the PCI is going to be slower than the AGP (not that a human would truly notice the difference) - but yeah - you could have two monitors going so that you could multitask better - watch porn on one monitor and hack out code on the other...(g) -- Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:45:00 +1100 2:45pm up 9 days, 28 min, 6 users, load average: 0.22, 0.18, 0.19 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I joined scientology at a garage sale!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
It appears that my card will work just fine then. I'll give it a go. If I run into any snags I will give you all a shout. I gave up trying to fix KDE after I broke it uninstalling CUPS. I have figured out some other things I didn't do correctly so I am going to redo the whole shootin match this weekend. As a side note, How do you uninstall Lilo from a disk? Thanks Russ - Original Message - From: Steve Jeppesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card I have the same exact card and it has no problems what so ever in linux. And I too purchased it for T2...but now I am addicted to Bzflags! LOL Follow the instructions on the nvidia site for installing the drivers for it and you shouldn't have any problems. If you do, write back and we can help ya out. Good Luck/ On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:49:45 -0800 Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a NVidia Geforce 2 64 meg card. I have to get anther card for another of my computers. I thought about getting one that is more compatible with Linux and putting it in this machine and putting the Geforce 2 in the other. Can anyone recommend a comparable card that does good with games as well? I purchased this Geforce2 card specifically so I could play Tribes 2. Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 16:35, Russ wrote: It appears that my card will work just fine then. I'll give it a go. If I run into any snags I will give you all a shout. I gave up trying to fix KDE after I broke it uninstalling CUPS. I have figured out some other things I didn't do correctly so I am going to redo the whole shootin match this weekend. As a side note, How do you uninstall Lilo from a disk? Thanks Russ lilo -u That removes lilo from your MBR or wherever you installed it mate! -- Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:35:00 +1100 4:35pm up 9 days, 2:18, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.13, 0.08 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- People are unconditionally guaranteed to be full of defects. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video card upgrade
I'd like to buy a new video card, keeping my current cpu and mainboard; I can also upgrade my K6 II 400 to a K6 II 533, anyway... GeForce 2 400mx and 3D Prophet (Kyro II) are sold at good prices near my home :) Do you think does it worth such kind of upgrade? I have little interest in 3D, I'm looking for good performance on 2D... Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video card upgrade
On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 09:12, Smiley wrote: I'd like to buy a new video card, keeping my current cpu and mainboard; I can also upgrade my K6 II 400 to a K6 II 533, anyway... GeForce 2 400mx and 3D Prophet (Kyro II) are sold at good prices near my home :) Do you think does it worth such kind of upgrade? I really don't think you'll see a difference in performance with so little processor power, but I don't have the numbers to prove it. i also think you'd be better off with more memory than a new K6. -- jason gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video card upgrade
At 04:12 PM 10/13/2002 +0200, you wrote: I'd like to buy a new video card, keeping my current cpu and mainboard; I can also upgrade my K6 II 400 to a K6 II 533, anyway... GeForce 2 400mx and 3D Prophet (Kyro II) are sold at good prices near my home :) Do you think does it worth such kind of upgrade? I have little interest in 3D, I'm looking for good performance on 2D... Smiley IMHO stick with nvidia stuff Kyro has had problems... for some it works fine tho... One person this list ordered a few of them. He's happy. Just my 2 cents --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] video card replacement/system won't boot
I've been running a dual-boot Mandrake 8.2/Windows system since 8.2 became available. Today, I had to upgrade/replace my old video card because it has gone bad (GeForce 2 with an ATI Radeon 8500.) I'm using a stock kernel and without the NVIDIA 3GL drivers installed, I do not startx at boot time. I can get to lilo and boot in to windows just fine, however, when I try to boot in to linux, linux-nonfb, or failsafe the system freezes. I've also tried reinstalling from cd#1. Any thoughts, any suggestions would be much appreciated. The Windows side boots fine and found all the new hardware. Joe Sotham - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card replacement/system won't boot
On Tue, 28 May 2002 13:07:05 -0700 Joe Sotham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been running a dual-boot Mandrake 8.2/Windows system since 8.2 became available. Today, I had to upgrade/replace my old video card because it has gone bad (GeForce 2 with an ATI Radeon 8500.) I'm using a stock kernel and without the NVIDIA 3GL drivers installed, I do not startx at boot time. I can get to lilo and boot in to windows just fine, however, when I try to boot in to linux, linux-nonfb, or failsafe the system freezes. I've also tried reinstalling from cd#1. I have made note of this before. The Radeon 8500 Is Not supported in 8.2. You can run the installation in text mode and then try dling and installing the ati2 drivers from gatos and you may be able to get some usability in X. The drivers themselves are very buggy as relates to the 8500 and you will suffer lock-ups and crashes. This is why support for the 8500 was disabled in 8.2 Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card replacement/system won't boot
May 28, 2002 02:07 pm,Joe Sotham wrote: I've been running a dual-boot Mandrake 8.2/Windows system since 8.2 became available. Today, I had to upgrade/replace my old video card because it has gone bad (GeForce 2 with an ATI Radeon 8500.) I'm using a stock kernel and without the NVIDIA 3GL drivers installed, I do not startx at boot time. I can get to lilo and boot in to windows just fine, however, when I try to boot in to linux, linux-nonfb, or failsafe the system freezes. I've also tried reinstalling from cd#1. Any thoughts, any suggestions would be much appreciated. The Windows side boots fine and found all the new hardware. Joe Sotham - ~~ All I know about who/what/when and if regarding Linux driver development for ATI products is from this ATI page: http://www.ati.com/developer/linux.html I hope you can find something there that will help you since the links to supported developers pages are there. I often 'march to a different beat' myself, so I can understand buying a graphics card from someone other than NVidia, but I don't think I would have bought an ATI (even though they're a Canajun company, eh. ;-)) until the driver projects have had a bit more time to gel. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org A definition of teaching: casting fake pearls before real swine. -- Bill Cain, Stand Up Tragedy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card replacement/system won't boot
On Tuesday 28 May 2002 23:44, you wrote: Â I've been running a dual-boot Mandrake 8.2/Windows system since 8.2 became available. Â Today, I had to upgrade/replace my old video card because it has gone bad Just for curiosity: How do you recognize a video card going bad? Lines on the screen, blank (black) screens every now and then or the monitor screetching at a high pitch? Don't bother about the flames coming out of the rear end of the monitor..been there! :o( Good hunting, Harm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] video card swap out
I'm trying to swap out a Trident TGUI9440-3 PCI video card in favor of a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446. When I tried rebooting the OS will not load properly now (Hangs up where KDE would normally start loading). What did I do wrong? Do I need to reinstall the old card and make some kind of config change before I can install the new one? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ Steven Peters ICQ#: 53147135 More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/53147135 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=53147135 _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card swap out
Steven, Before starting X, log in as root and run XFdrake. You can select a resolution there and it should set things for your card. HTH Brian On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 11:31, Steven Peters wrote: I'm trying to swap out a Trident TGUI9440-3 PCI video card in favor of a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446. When I tried rebooting the OS will not load properly now (Hangs up where KDE would normally start loading). What did I do wrong? Do I need to reinstall the old card and make some kind of config change before I can install the new one? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ Steven Peters ICQ#: 53147135 More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/53147135 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=53147135 _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card swap out
On Monday 29 April 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: I'm trying to swap out a Trident TGUI9440-3 PCI video card in favor of a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446. When I tried rebooting the OS will not load properly now (Hangs up where KDE would normally start loading). What did I do wrong? Do I need to reinstall the old card and make some kind of config change before I can install the new one? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ Steven Peters ICQ#: 53147135 More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/53147135 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=53147135 _ Steven, easiest way (for me anyhoo) to do this is to reboot with your ML 8.x CD 1 in the drive and do an expert upgrade, don't select any packages if you don't want to and then let it go on through the process. It will get to the configure X stuff and you can configure for the card there if it doesn't auto detect. It will ask if you want to check the configuration and you can click yes as in the original installation. You should see all the little penguins. It is quick and easy. HTH Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] video card swap out
I tried that Brian and that did the trick. Thank you very much for your help. You rock! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Parish Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 6:52 PM To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] video card swap out Steven, Before starting X, log in as root and run XFdrake. You can select a resolution there and it should set things for your card. HTH Brian On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 11:31, Steven Peters wrote: I'm trying to swap out a Trident TGUI9440-3 PCI video card in favor of a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446. When I tried rebooting the OS will not load properly now (Hangs up where KDE would normally start loading). What did I do wrong? Do I need to reinstall the old card and make some kind of config change before I can install the new one? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ Steven Peters ICQ#: 53147135 More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/53147135 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=53147135 _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] video card swap out
I tried this and it did the trick: Before starting X, log in as root and run XFdrake. You can select a resolution there and it should set things for your card. Thanks for your help anyway. I will tuck this email away for future use. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] video card swap out On Monday 29 April 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: I'm trying to swap out a Trident TGUI9440-3 PCI video card in favor of a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5446. When I tried rebooting the OS will not load properly now (Hangs up where KDE would normally start loading). What did I do wrong? Do I need to reinstall the old card and make some kind of config change before I can install the new one? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. _ Steven Peters ICQ#: 53147135 More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/53147135 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=53147135 _ Steven, easiest way (for me anyhoo) to do this is to reboot with your ML 8.x CD 1 in the drive and do an expert upgrade, don't select any packages if you don't want to and then let it go on through the process. It will get to the configure X stuff and you can configure for the card there if it doesn't auto detect. It will ask if you want to check the configuration and you can click yes as in the original installation. You should see all the little penguins. It is quick and easy. HTH Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Card Support. (Was build PC)
I am thinking about purchasing an ATI Radeon 8500 DV video card, but am unsure. I have looked on the Mandrake site, where there is a lot of known hardware listed. Radeon cards seem to be supported in the kernel, so is it correct to assume that there are no drivers necessary for Radeon cards in general?? While there is a long list of known video cards for both Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1, there does not seem to be a list of video cards as seen at installation time??? Lastly, I am concerned as to whether the TV tuner on the Radeon 8500 DV card is supported in some way in Linux. Does anyone know??? Cheers, Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Purchase?
I do plan on upgrading my linux version in the future and I read where my card, even if upgraded w/new drivers, will most likely not work on the new Linux version. So, w/out looking at the educational benefits of this process, I'd rather just install a new card that works! That sounds odd - Linux is about as backwards-compatible as they come. I mean some people thought Mandrake were being a bit elitist for not providing i386 support in their standard distro! Unlike some operating systems I can think of, the general rule is that if it works in Linux, it'll always work in Linux. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Purchase?
RC Hi All, RC I've been reading all the messages about video card compatability. I RC currently have a NVidia GeForce MX 2 installed on my AOpen AK73 series MB RC w/an Athlon 1000mhz processor. (dual boot w/win98 se) RC I do plan on upgrading my linux version in the future and I read where my RC card, even if upgraded w/new drivers, will most likely not work on the new RC Linux version. So, w/out looking at the educational benefits of this process, RC I'd rather just install a new card that works! RC Since I'm not exactly strapped for money, does anyone have any suggestions RC for a new video card? RC Also, is there a web site that offers information on, ie: compatability RC w/linux, and recommendations? (like the modem site) RC TIA RC Roger I dont think they will not work, they will work ! But I guess there is a misunderstanding. When you upgrade your linux, aka the kernel, the drivers you had installed previously will not work. All you need is to re-install them so they will be using your new kernel. Geforce 2mx works, I have no trouble, tried on so many systems and distros, like many ppl around me. Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Card Purchase?
Hi All, I've been reading all the messages about video card compatability. I currently have a NVidia GeForce MX 2 installed on my AOpen AK73 series MB w/an Athlon 1000mhz processor. (dual boot w/win98 se) I do plan on upgrading my linux version in the future and I read where my card, even if upgraded w/new drivers, will most likely not work on the new Linux version. So, w/out looking at the educational benefits of this process, I'd rather just install a new card that works! Since I'm not exactly strapped for money, does anyone have any suggestions for a new video card? Also, is there a web site that offers information on, ie: compatability w/linux, and recommendations? (like the modem site) TIA Roger -- Registered Linux User 244036 Since August 2001 - LM8.0 Open Source = Freedom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Purchase?
i have had very good luck under linux and windows both with all of the ati cards i have used, thought the windows drivers tend to be a little buggy in the first few versions the hardware seems to be outstanding and the drivers always catch up a few months later. anyone else? On Monday 19 November 2001 19:28, R C spoke unto the masses thusly: Since I'm not exactly strapped for money, does anyone have any suggestions for a new video card? -- One of the surest signs of intelligent in outer space is that it hasn't contacted us yet. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card Purchase?
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, R C wrote: I have had 2 different NVidia GeForce2 cards. With Mandrake 8.0, it was a Hercules Prop. II (32 MB). It ran with zero problems. I just recently upgrade that card to a GeForce2 GTS Pro (64 MB). And again zero problems with it running on Mandrake 8.1. That is my experiences. Anyone play witha GeForce3 card yet on Mandrake? Hi All, I've been reading all the messages about video card compatability. I currently have a NVidia GeForce MX 2 installed on my AOpen AK73 series MB w/an Athlon 1000mhz processor. (dual boot w/win98 se) I do plan on upgrading my linux version in the future and I read where my card, even if upgraded w/new drivers, will most likely not work on the new Linux version. So, w/out looking at the educational benefits of this process, I'd rather just install a new card that works! Since I'm not exactly strapped for money, does anyone have any suggestions for a new video card? Also, is there a web site that offers information on, ie: compatability w/linux, and recommendations? (like the modem site) TIA Roger -- Jody 'JoLinux' Harvey Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -Albert Einstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video card troubles
I have been using Mandrake for about a year and most recently 8.1. When I installed 8.1 at home, my video card is reported as another. I am using a STB Velocity 4400 w/ 16MB of RAM, AGP bus. XFdrake reports me using a RIVA 128. When I run a couple of games (quake 3 for linux) the screen stays black until I press Alt+Enter and puts the game in a window mode. When I try to change the card type in XFdrake and restart the X server it always comes back as a RIVA 128 card. 1. Is this a problem? 2. Can I make the changes permanent without hosing my install? 3. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks, -- Alan Carbutt Applications Programmer Adams State College 719-587-7096 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video card troubles
Eh, Maybe you need the Linux drivers from the Nvidia site. You'll need to recompile the RPM which is no biggie... rpm --rebuild does the trick. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of |Alan Carbutt |Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:17 PM |To: Mandrake |Subject: [newbie] Video card troubles | | |I have been using Mandrake for about a year and most recently |8.1. When I installed 8.1 at home, my video card is reported |as another. I am using a STB Velocity 4400 w/ 16MB of RAM, |AGP bus. XFdrake reports me using a RIVA 128. When I run a |couple of games (quake 3 for linux) the screen stays black |until I press Alt+Enter and puts the game in a window mode. |When I try to change the card type in XFdrake and restart the |X server it always comes back as a RIVA 128 card. 1. Is this |a problem? 2. Can I make the changes permanent without hosing |my install? 3. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks, |-- |Alan Carbutt |Applications Programmer |Adams State College |719-587-7096 |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video card troubles
Rerun the xconfig and choose STB velocity 4400. Worked for me. JDRadio On Thursday 18 October 2001 05:17 pm, you wrote: I have been using Mandrake for about a year and most recently 8.1. When I installed 8.1 at home, my video card is reported as another. I am using a STB Velocity 4400 w/ 16MB of RAM, AGP bus. XFdrake reports me using a RIVA 128. When I run a couple of games (quake 3 for linux) the screen stays black until I press Alt+Enter and puts the game in a window mode. When I try to change the card type in XFdrake and restart the X server it always comes back as a RIVA 128 card. 1. Is this a problem? 2. Can I make the changes permanent without hosing my install? 3. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video card compatable with xfree
hey, thank you Alan. it didn't occure to me to check the mandrake site once i looked at the xfree site. i'll keep that in mind for next time. thanks again Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:42:16 PM 3/13/01 Adrian Smith wrote: i'm trying to find out if the following card will work with xfree Matrox Mystique 220 Business with a MGA-1164SG chip set. i check the Matrox site, no mentions of Linux there. checked the Xfree site. they have some matrox products listed, but not this specific one, nor this specific chip set. should i assume then that it is not supported? thanks much for any assistance. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adrianaccording to the MandrakeSoft supported hardware list located at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.php3 one of the listed Matrox cards is: Mystique with 170 and 220 MHz integrated RAMDACs (both MGA1064SG and MGA1164SG) -- Alan
[newbie] video card compatable with xfree
hey, thank you Alan. it didn't occure to me to check the mandrake site once i looked at the xfree site. i'll keep that in mind for next time. thanks again Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:42:16 PM 3/13/01 Adrian Smith wrote: i'm trying to find out if the following card will work with xfree Matrox Mystique 220 Business with a MGA-1164SG chip set. i check the Matrox site, no mentions of Linux there. checked the Xfree site. they have some matrox products listed, but not this specific one, nor this specific chip set. should i assume then that it is not supported? thanks much for any assistance. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adrianaccording to the MandrakeSoft supported hardware list located at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.php3 one of the listed Matrox cards is: Mystique with 170 and 220 MHz integrated RAMDACs (both MGA1064SG and MGA1164SG) -- Alan
[newbie] video card compatable with xfree
i'm trying to find out if the following card will work with xfree Matrox Mystique 220 Business with a MGA-1164SG chip set. i check the Matrox site, no mentions of Linux there. checked the Xfree site. they have some matrox products listed, but not this specific one, nor this specific chip set. should i assume then that it is not supported? thanks much for any assistance. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
On Sunday 03 December 2000 06:56, you wrote: Mandrake v7.2 doesnt always get automagically. There seems to be a thing with XFdrake distinguishing between AGP and PCI. I have a built in i810 and I have installed both PCI Voodoo3 2000 and PCI ATI All in Wonder in seperates times. At first I thought it was a problem with Voodoo, but then when I got ATI, the same thing had occurred. XFdrake keeps detecting the i810 even though in my BIOS set up, my primary video is the PCI slot and the AGP is disabled. I know for a fact that both video cards are supported by XFree 4.0.1. I tried to do xf86config but it couldnt find the device. I dont have a problem with my setup in Window ME. Does anyone have any suggestions or solution? Thanks Rob Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-)
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
On Sunday 03 December 2000 06:56, you wrote: Mandrake doesnt always autodetect the videocard. I have a built in i810 videochip and Mandrake has detected that with no prob. I've tried voodoo3 PCI after 7.2 came out and XFDrake get so tied up with i810 and it wouldnt detect my PCI video card. I just bought ATI all in wonder and the same thing had occurred. XFDrake seems to have a problem with distinguishing AGP and PCI, and it certainly doesnt read my BIOS settings. In my BIOS setting, I have enable my PCI video as my primary and disabled my AGP built-in chip. and XFDrake still says I have an i810 and nothing else. It seems to me it's a dirty bug in XFDrake for those who have i810 and wants PCI. Does anyone have a solution? Rob Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-)
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
Yeah, i think i have the same problem i can't access my gui (i have lnx4win) all i get is a fatal error no screen found error when i type startx. How do i configure my startx so i can detect my card. I also have a voodoo(3)card(pci) and a i810 disabled . - Original Message - From: "Robin Regennitter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video card question? On Sunday 03 December 2000 06:56, you wrote: Mandrake v7.2 doesnt always get automagically. There seems to be a thing with XFdrake distinguishing between AGP and PCI. I have a built in i810 and I have installed both PCI Voodoo3 2000 and PCI ATI All in Wonder in seperates times. At first I thought it was a problem with Voodoo, but then when I got ATI, the same thing had occurred. XFdrake keeps detecting the i810 even though in my BIOS set up, my primary video is the PCI slot and the AGP is disabled. I know for a fact that both video cards are supported by XFree 4.0.1. I tried to do xf86config but it couldnt find the device. I dont have a problem with my setup in Window ME. Does anyone have any suggestions or solution? Thanks Rob Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-)
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
On Sunday 03 December 2000 15:56, you wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? It is correct if your video card is decent hardware, but there are a host of cards we expected XFree 4.01 to support where the support is sadly lacking, such as the SiS 530/620 and the 6326 which will work accelerated under 3.3.6 but NOT under 4.01 (ghosts, noise, etc., even without acceleration) One thing that is certain, acceleration is likely to work only at 16-bit color depth. Changing the resolution to a different color depth WILL break it. Civileme Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-) Well, the combination of WD 7200 rpm drives and VIA 133, both KX and KT chipsets seems suspect.Furthermore, special procedures are needed to install using the ASUS K7V because the ATA/100 Promise on-board controller is not initially recognized (see the newbie archives for the steps given by gshaw).
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
sure, why not. I have a voodoo5. I use the drivers from http://linux.3dfx.com. They have a very nice step by step on that website with the files that you need right there. Here are my major steps. 1. download files: in my case those are: tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm Glide_V5-3.10-2.i386.rpm 2. remove all rpms related to Glide or 3dfx 3. exit X (I boot to init3 so I just log out of windowmaker and I am at a command prompt.) and log in as root. 4. cd /etc/X11 and change name of existing XF86Config-4 file to XF86Config-4.old 5. rpm -Uvh Glide_V5-3.10-2.i386.rpm 6. rpm -Uvh tdfx_dri-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm 7. rpm --rebuild tdfx_drm-1.0-3.src.rpm Sometimes I have to --force and/or --nodeps one of the three packages. 8. cd /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686 rpm -Uvh tdfx_drm-1.0-3.i686.rpm 9. cd /etc/X11 and change all settings in XF86Config.dri.ex to reflect the entries in XF86Config-4.old (specifically monitor refresh rates, mouse settings and font paths) then cp XF86Config.dri.ex XF86Config-4 10. startx (at which point everything works theoretically) Doing this breaks some of the neat things that mandrake does and some of the applications that are installed. Fine with me as long as I can play Quake3! Hope this helps Paul. Feel free to ask more questions if there was something you were interested in that I missed. Abe Paul R wrote: If it's not a whole how-to (i.e. just a few lines), may I ask what steps you took. I was asking purely for my own (the list's) edification, so if it's too much trouble, it's ok. -Paul R abe wrote: Unfortunately you do not automagically get hardware acceleration w x 4.0.1 and mandrake 7.2. I had to use the same procedures to make it work that I used with 7.0 and 7.1. I've got an A7V (Via KT13) and linux works great on it. Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
Well, the neato clock at the graphical login screen goes haywire. Some of the KDE games don't work right or at all. Uh, there are a few others but I can't remember them right now. Nothing pivotal really. Atleast as far as my usage goes. I don't know what applications you use regularly though. Since I can't remember which ones Don't work, I'll list some that DO work ;-) netscape 4.76 and 6 Opera 4.2b XMMS Konqueror emacs Xemacs The Gimp Staroffice RealPlayer Yahoo messenger LICQ GKrellm Koffice GQview Xaos quake3 UT Civilisation: call to power various image viewers, movie players, networking tools etc I use windowmaker which works great Linuxconf Drakconf pico yea Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: abe wrote: snip Doing this breaks some of the neat things that mandrake does and some of the applications that are installed. Fine with me as long as I can play Quake3! Hope this helps Paul. Feel free to ask more questions if there was something you were interested in that I missed. Abe Hmm. Okay, what "neat things" and "applications" are you talking about? Thanks! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Depends. If you upgrade from 3.3.6. a copy of the old XF86Config is used. If acceleration is off in there, you need to set it on by hand: option "accel" or something like that Paul -- I would only believe in a god that loves to dance. (Zarathustra) http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] Video card question?
Unfortunately you do not automagically get hardware acceleration w x 4.0.1 and mandrake 7.2. I had to use the same procedures to make it work that I used with 7.0 and 7.1. I've got an A7V (Via KT13) and linux works great on it. Abe "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: Hmm, okay...I'm a little confused now. I thought that with Xfree 4.01 and Mandrake v7.2, if your video card is supported, then you get automagically installed hardware acceleration? Is that not right? Another question; I'm thinking about upgrading soon. Any issues with Via 133 and AMD 751 chipsets? Tyan motherboards? Thanks, all! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
[newbie] Video Card
I have installed Red Hat 6.0 and had trouble my video card. Which is a ATI rage fury 128, 32 meg. My computer doesn't like it. I can get the shell interface to work but notthe gui to work. I alsoinstalled Mandrake 7.1 this was a little betterbut had a double desk top!! Does any one have any suggestion!
[newbie] video card problem
i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged as mine works fine ok stephen galowski ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
Re: [newbie] video card problem
Only problem with that theory is that RedHat and Caldera work OK, and I tried the card in three different slots as well. Does your motherboard have an AGP slot as well? The video card could have a problem I guess, but its all pretty strange! Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: stephen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: [newbie] video card problem i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged as mine works fine ok stephen galowski --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
Re: [newbie] video card problem
yes i have a agp port as well on the mother board stephen - Original Message - From: "Rod Baxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] video card problem Only problem with that theory is that RedHat and Caldera work OK, and I tried the card in three different slots as well. Does your motherboard have an AGP slot as well? The video card could have a problem I guess, but its all pretty strange! Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: stephen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: [newbie] video card problem i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged as mine works fine ok stephen galowski --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
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I just tried another trio card (I have three..) same problem. But the matrox works OK. My motherboard is an Aopen ax63pro. Uses the Apollo 133 chipset. I also asked Mandrake. It will be interesting to see what they say. Regads,Rod - Original Message - From: "stephen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] video card problem yes i have a agp port as well on the mother board stephen - Original Message - From: "Rod Baxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] video card problem Only problem with that theory is that RedHat and Caldera work OK, and I tried the card in three different slots as well. Does your motherboard have an AGP slot as well? The video card could have a problem I guess, but its all pretty strange! Regards,Rod - Original Message - From: stephen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:54 PM Subject: [newbie] video card problem i have no problems with my pci s3 tro v64 video card may be you pci slot on the mother board is damaged as mine works fine ok stephen galowski --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
[newbie] Video Card Installation
I'm using linux mandrake 6.5. When I try to install my video card with Xconfigurator I get error messages like -- - there was an error detecting the video ram on your card. You should try configuring the video card maually. -- - The is a problem with your Xconfiguration. You may go back and modify your configuration or exit now. -- - i tried xfree86config and when i run startx it just crashes -- - Monitor: Proview 19inch Manufacturer: Proview Product#: PS-982 ID: 998M FGC ID: IJE998 Hz: 30-98 Vz: 50-160 100-240V2.3A -- -- -- ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 ASIC TYPE: Rage 128 ASIC ID: 5245 Bus Type: PCI BIOS Version: 001.001.001.013 BIOS Part Number: 113-57403-102 Memory size: 16.0MB Memory Type: SDR SGRAM 1:1 / SDRAM -- - -- - If you know how i can get it to work feel free to tell me :)
[newbie] Video Card Installation prob's
When I try to install my Video Card for Linux using Xconfigurator i get errors like " There was an error detecting the video ram on your card. You should try configuring the video card manually " and i try to do that then i get " There is a problem with your Xconfiguration. You may go back and modify your configuration or exit now. " I also tried using xf86config... still no luck. i have... Video Card: ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128(English) Vender: ATI Tech. -Enhanced Type: PCI Version: 001.001.001.013 Part# 113-57403-102 Memory: 16.0MB ID: 5245 Monitor: Proview 19inch Horizontal Frequency: 30-98 Vertical Frequency: 50-160 Model: 998M Product #: PS-982 FCC ID: IJE998 100-240v 60-50Hz 2.3A If any one can help with info i listed it will be highly appreciated. -Rob
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Dacia and AzureRose [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/09/2000 02:37:22 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card Hey, I appologize work email is Notes and its broken =) I'm used to mutt which automatically appends the original message and wasn't aware that it wasn't included in the message body. -Lonny Hey, you should qoute the messages your responding too. I have no idea what your talking about because this thread is about a week old and has been very active. Quake3 runs great in linux. I've got it on two machines. One is mandrake 7.02 with two voodoo2's x 3.3.6 and the other machine is mandrake 7.1 and a voodoo5. I must say that the mouse works A LOT BETTER in x 3.3.6. This is a known issue and has something to do with DGA extensions and the way quake3 implements them. If anyone is having problems like that w x 4.01 please write to Loki as they currently only sort of believe that there is a problem. Dacia --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki and it runs awsome with no hangups and my framerates rock! Lonny Selinger __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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"Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/09/2000 06:48:04 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card I'm running an Asus GeForce 256 deluxe (4x AGP 32MB) and Nvidia has done some great work on supporting open source drivers for their cards =) What's your hardware setup? I'm using the Matrox G400 dual head card with no luck at all - any ideas? Mike I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki and it runs awsome with no hangups and my framerates rock! Lonny Selinger
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Would you contact me directly please with the list of video cards, manufacturers, models, etc. The e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a few more questions and would like to do a follow up. Thank you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card I have 3 pci cards, and 1 agp. The agp is the slowest. agp is probably capable of going faster, but I just cant get it to go above 5, while my pci does 60. The benchmark program I used was the setup program on screamer 2, which runs some tests on the video card. Its agp x4 Linux is not good for gameing. Networks, internet, programing, all good. But not gameing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI? It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can certainly use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1. Since I'm jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I missed like the type of mb. Just curious. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki and it runs awsome with no hangups and my framerates rock! Lonny Selinger
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Hey, you should qoute the messages your responding too. I have no idea what your talking about because this thread is about a week old and has been very active. Quake3 runs great in linux. I've got it on two machines. One is mandrake 7.02 with two voodoo2's x 3.3.6 and the other machine is mandrake 7.1 and a voodoo5. I must say that the mouse works A LOT BETTER in x 3.3.6. This is a known issue and has something to do with DGA extensions and the way quake3 implements them. If anyone is having problems like that w x 4.01 please write to Loki as they currently only sort of believe that there is a problem. Dacia --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki and it runs awsome with no hangups and my framerates rock! Lonny Selinger __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] Video Card
Quake3 runs great in linux. I've got it on two machines. One is mandrake 7.02 with two voodoo2's x 3.3.6 and the other machine is mandrake 7.1 and a voodoo5. I must say that the mouse works A LOT BETTER in x 3.3.6. This is a known issue and has something to do with DGA extensions and the way quake3 implements them. Dacia Hey Dacia, I was wondering if you could give me an idea of how to setup the Voodoo cards under Linux? I'm not really jazzed about buying another video card, but I would like to setup one machine to play games on and I'm having no luck with my current hardware. Were you able to run Quake 3 out of the box on a clean install of Mandrake 7.0/7.1 or did you have to do some tweaking? I would really like to know if ANYONE has been able to get the Matrox G400 dual head card working with Quake 3 and Mandrake (or any version of Linux for that matter). Thanks, Mike
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I will be playing half-life, ages of empires, and some other stuff. -Original Message- From: Dacia and AzureRose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card which games. that is a big issue. If you only play quake3, evolva and other new games that can actually use hardware TL then you'll be making a pretty good decision by going with a geforce based card. On the other hand if you play flight sims, glide games or older games you might look at a voodoo3,4 or 5. Especially if you dual boot with wandows to play those older games. The Anti-aliasing that the voodoo4 and 5 series can do is a BIG deal on games from about last december and older. No jaggies, no pixel popping, no crawlies, no slowdowns and that is in half-life! I understand that flight sims, car racing games and sports games really benefit even more. Freespace2 looks like a movie on my system. It is totally amazing. I've spent the last few nights hanging out with my brother drinking beer and watching himplay that game on his 19in monitor. So, I guess what I'm saying is "What games do you play?" Dacia --- "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to use it primarily for gaming. And we'll see what else I can get my hands into... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card I only have one off topic suggestion .. have fun =o) theres a ton of cool things out there to try or implement/refine and perfect ... try em all . when you get curious or daring enough, play with some source code (C C++ Perl Python) whatever .. even if you dont know how to code, or leave everything the way it is the cool thing is Linux is the ultimate playground for anyone who wants to actually "use" a computer rather than have an operating system "guide" the user. The learning curve for the operating system *core* looks more like a vertical wall than a curve ... thing is there are a LOT of hands sticking out willing to help if you want them to. If you're careful about steps you take (recovery disks, backups etc) and you ask for help ... .the climb is a rush. Ok enough on topic advice for video cards I believe another poster mentioned the best advice. Choose something that suits what you want to use it for and what resources you already have (Monitor limitations, is this for gaming and playing with OpenGL stuff, do you just need X running etc) I personally am a fan of Loki and support their porting efforts by purchasing their games ported to Linux so I like hitting high frame rates with full effects on and GeForce and a nice 17" .24 monitor do this for me. It al ldepends on what you want =o) Lonny __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Video Card
I have 3 pci cards, and 1 agp. The agp is the slowest. agp is probably capable of going faster, but I just cant get it to go above 5, while my pci does 60. The benchmark program I used was the setup program on screamer 2, which runs some tests on the video card. Its agp x4 Linux is not good for gameing. Networks, internet, programing, all good. But not gameing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI? It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can certainly use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1. Since I'm jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I missed like the type of mb. Just curious. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Those are windows only games at this point. Pretty much any new video card will play those games happily. I play half-life and counter-strike every day. On my computer with a voodoo5 I run them at 1280x1024 using the miniGL driver and 4 sample anti-aliasing. They are perfectly smooth. High frame rates and BEAUTIFUL! Words cannot convey the image quality in game. Dacia --- "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be playing half-life, ages of empires, and some other stuff. -Original Message- From: Dacia and AzureRose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card which games. that is a big issue. If you only play quake3, evolva and other new games that can actually use hardware TL then you'll be making a pretty good decision by going with a geforce based card. On the other hand if you play flight sims, glide games or older games you might look at a voodoo3,4 or 5. Especially if you dual boot with wandows to play those older games. The Anti-aliasing that the voodoo4 and 5 series can do is a BIG deal on games from about last december and older. No jaggies, no pixel popping, no crawlies, no slowdowns and that is in half-life! I understand that flight sims, car racing games and sports games really benefit even more. Freespace2 looks like a movie on my system. It is totally amazing. I've spent the last few nights hanging out with my brother drinking beer and watching himplay that game on his 19in monitor. So, I guess what I'm saying is "What games do you play?" Dacia --- "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to use it primarily for gaming. And we'll see what else I can get my hands into... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card I only have one off topic suggestion .. have fun =o) theres a ton of cool things out there to try or implement/refine and perfect ... try em all . when you get curious or daring enough, play with some source code (C C++ Perl Python) whatever .. even if you dont know how to code, or leave everything the way it is the cool thing is Linux is the ultimate playground for anyone who wants to actually "use" a computer rather than have an operating system "guide" the user. The learning curve for the operating system *core* looks more like a vertical wall than a curve ... thing is there are a LOT of hands sticking out willing to help if you want them to. If you're careful about steps you take (recovery disks, backups etc) and you ask for help ... .the climb is a rush. Ok enough on topic advice for video cards I believe another poster mentioned the best advice. Choose something that suits what you want to use it for and what resources you already have (Monitor limitations, is this for gaming and playing with OpenGL stuff, do you just need X running etc) I personally am a fan of Loki and support their porting efforts by purchasing their games ported to Linux so I like hitting high frame rates with full effects on and GeForce and a nice 17" .24 monitor do this for me. It al ldepends on what you want =o) Lonny __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] Video Card
There are a few games that run very well on linux. Quake3 for example. But, overall I agree with you, linux is not a gaming paradise yet. Abe = Original Message From "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I have 3 pci cards, and 1 agp. The agp is the slowest. agp is probably capable of going faster, but I just cant get it to go above 5, while my pci does 60. The benchmark program I used was the setup program on screamer 2, which runs some tests on the video card. Its agp x4 Linux is not good for gameing. Networks, internet, programing, all good. But not gameing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI? It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can certainly use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1. Since I'm jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I missed like the type of mb. Just curious. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote: I have 3 pci cards, and 1 agp. The agp is the slowest. agp is probably capable of going faster, but I just cant get it to go above 5, while my pci does 60. The benchmark program I used was the setup program on screamer 2, which runs some tests on the video card. Its agp x4 Linux is not good for gameing. Networks, internet, programing, all good. But not gameing. Because the person who was writing was interested in gaming, I'd recommend an AGP card all the way. I'd also recommend a dual-boot system. I have had good success with a GeForce 256 DDR. It runs X-Windows 3.3.6 in SVGA mode. I didn't install XFree86 4.0.1 yet, but it has support for nVidia products (at the expence of reduced performance with older PCI cards like ATI Mach 64). nVidia even has Linux drivers on its web site. Anyway, I don't play games under Linux. I run X-Windows, though, and you do NOT need a 3D-card to run X-Windows. nVidia has a good record for me. I believe ATI cards are also good under Linux. I haven't heard anyone trying the Radeon though so I can't say much about it. -- --Arcana
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Sweet!!! Thanks Lonny. Any other suggestions??? Save your X Configuration file and MAKE BACKUPS. Even though you think, "There's no possible way that this can screw up"... believe me, something will happen. Nothing's more comforting knowing that you can screw around as much as you want, and if it's all gone to heck and back, you can just reset the changes. -- --Arcana
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Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI? It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can certainly use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1. Since I'm jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I missed like the type of mb. Just curious. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Thanks -Original Message- From: Goldenpi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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Some of us don't have AGP capability...like me. So, that makes the Voodoo 3 my choice. On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, you wrote: Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI? It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can certainly use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1. Since I'm jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I missed like the type of mb. Just curious. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap. - Original Message - From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -- Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap. Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com -- Jay "Every man dies, not every man really lives." http://www.mrsnooky.com
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote: Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 geforce ddr. most any brand. i've got a hercules prophet. they can get pretty pricey if u buy the latest model.
RE: [newbie] Video Card
I only have one off topic suggestion .. have fun =o) theres a ton of cool things out there to try or implement/refine and perfect ... try em all . when you get curious or daring enough, play with some source code (C C++ Perl Python) whatever .. even if you dont know how to code, or leave everything the way it is the cool thing is Linux is the ultimate playground for anyone who wants to actually "use" a computer rather than have an operating system "guide" the user. The learning curve for the operating system *core* looks more like a vertical wall than a curve ... thing is there are a LOT of hands sticking out willing to help if you want them to. If you're careful about steps you take (recovery disks, backups etc) and you ask for help ... .the climb is a rush. Ok enough on topic advice for video cards I believe another poster mentioned the best advice. Choose something that suits what you want to use it for and what resources you already have (Monitor limitations, is this for gaming and playing with OpenGL stuff, do you just need X running etc) I personally am a fan of Loki and support their porting efforts by purchasing their games ported to Linux so I like hitting high frame rates with full effects on and GeForce and a nice 17" .24 monitor do this for me. It al ldepends on what you want =o) Lonny
