Re: [newbie] Rusty Morse.
On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 05:31, Keith Powell wrote: Are there any radio amateurs on the list? Yep, AB2RC here After many years of being inactive, I want to get back into amateur radio and brush up my *VERY* rusty Morse. Can anyone recommend a good Morse training program which uses the sound card, please? I want to listen to it with headphones. Preferably one which also has a GUI rather than just using the command line, but I am not all that fussy about this. There are quite a few, try looking on freshmeat.net. Personally I am a digital kind of guy, mostly psk31 -- Alex / AB2RC Yaesu FT100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Why do they call Radio Wireless, between my shack and antennas I must have over 1500 feet of wire! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dlink USB Radio
On Monday 16 June 2003 02:03 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 15:33, Nathan Coad wrote: Hi. I've got a usb radio that I'd like to use with mandrake 9.1 Running lsusb gives: Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b4:1002 Cypress Semiconductor CY7C63001 R100 FM Radio So I know its detected. What I don't know is how to control it. Any ideas? Thanks, Nathan There are applications that allow for control of radio cards, but it's more a matter of finding the application that suits your purpose. I'd suggest doing a search at Freshmeat.net and Sourceforge.net firstly - then everywhere else after that. make sure the following modules are loaded videodev dsbr100 then any of the fm radio control programs should work. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can't eject cd after burning
On Friday 21 March 2003 10:53 am, Richard Urwin wrote: Supermount was enabled at all times. Conclusion: Burning CDs can confuse supermount. Expect to mount/umount by hand. Wait for the drive to finish following a failed eject. What is happining is the following cd is finished burning (but not mounted) supermount sees that a valid cd is in the drive, and then mounts it cd is now mounted. This is one of the main reasons that i do not use supermount. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hams on the list
Not just a ham, but also a ham/linux developer. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Operating Systems to become obsolete?
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 08:14 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: Found this interesting, thought I'd pass it on. (Is the future really now?) Jerry. Personally, I can't find it interesting, since I don't know where or what it is -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Operating Systems to become obsolete?
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:35 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:04 pm, A V Flinsch wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 08:14 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: Found this interesting, thought I'd pass it on. (Is the future really now?) Jerry. Personally, I can't find it interesting, since I don't know where or what it is I think Jerry was referring to this http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/02/24/1717223 Interesting, but seems to be very little difference from my old Commodore 64 and OSI C1 days. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XCDroast primary read device.
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 02:54 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hello all, Has anyone experienced a problem with XCDROAST on Mandrake 9.0 because I cannot get it to recognise my CD Reader either Primary or Secondary. Under CD Writer Config I have Mitsumi CR-4804TE which is correct. But under CD Reader both Primary Secondary are given the same Mitsumi Writer instead of the correct Teac CD Rom. Are there any XCDRoast files I can manipulate? Has any one else had this problem? sounds like your reader is not under ide-scsi look in /etc/lilo.conf for a line with hd?=ide-scsi and make sure that both the cdrom and cdwriter are listed, then lilo and reboot. -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XASTIR on 9.0 ?
On Saturday 26 October 2002 06:43 pm, Markus Bela wrote: Just by accident, is someone here using XASTIR (amateur radio APRS sw) with 9.0? I have install problems. Bela/HA5DI I am running xastie version 1.1.2 under 9.0, but had it installed before I upgraded. What problems are you having? -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mdk9 rpm problems.
On Sunday 13 October 2002 11:19 pm, Franki wrote: Hi guys, After proclaiming my mdk9 install to be a success, I find myself kinda embarrased. I tried to install an app with urpmi appname and it didn't work. Then I tried to fire up MandrakeUpdate,,, same result.. it displays please wait finding available packages and that message never disapears. (been up for 36 hours now.) Then I tried rpm --rebuilddb no good, just sits there doing nothing. even a query like: rpm -qa | grep kde just sits there... ditto with installing: urpmi gkrellm has just sat there doing nothing for 12 hours. and I can't find anything interesting in syslog about it... anyone know whats going on??? I don't know EXACTLY what is going on, but it looks like something that occured to me over the weekend. try rpm -qa as root -- does it hang about midway thru? try rpm -qa as a user -- it completes normally. What I ended up doing was dropping into single user mode, and trying a rpm --rebuilddb, but that hung also (note, I also used a - option, and it always hung in the same place) rebooted to rescue disk, mounted the disks containing /var/lib/rpm and another disk mount /dev/hdg2 /mnt/disk --- for /var/lib/rpm mkdir /var/tmp mount /dev/hdg1 /var/tmp -- rpm rebuild needs some space here, hdg1 is usually iso work space rpm - --rebuilddb --dbpath /mnt/disk/var/lib/rpm then rebooted, this fixed the problem, YMMV -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can I just go and blow up ol 4hassan.com
On Tuesday 01 October 2002 07:05 pm, et wrote: I have also started to forward all the e-mal i get from them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and so far have not gotten a bounce. I also wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if they are awake. One of my favorite lines in a bugs bunny carrtoon was Hassan Chop! perhaps we should chop 4hassan -- Alex / KC2IVL ft100 software for Linux http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Belkin UPS
On Sunday 30 June 2002 09:05 pm, you wrote: I finally purchased and installed a Belkin F6C525-SER UPS. (The SER means that it can communicate to the box via a serial connection -- in Same one I have, works great. my case, ttyS0/COM1). My next step is to install software that will shut my 8.2 system down when the power dies. Belkin offers Linux software to do this for various distributions. Sadly, Mandrake is not one of them, so I'll probably try Belkin's Redhat 7.2 stuff, but I'd like to hear from someone who has been down this road about pitfalls, alternative software. Really Good News is also acceptable. -- cmg I don't recall there being specific versions of the software when I installed mine. IIRC there was a single Unix version, which included binaries for Solaris and Linux x86. It worked fine, all I needed to do, was to tweak the startup script a bit. -- Alex / KC2IVL http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The Register: Preinstalled Windows Illegal to Remove?
On Tuesday 30 April 2002 11:13 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:43:37 -0700 Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out this article. Linux Today: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-04-30-018-26-PS-MS-LL Complete story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html Those links' content make me want to be sick. The more I hear about M$ and their tactics the more I desire their whole company to be dismantled properly Sold. If anyone took the time to do some actual research -- even on a ms site, one would find that it is not illegal to remove a preinstalled version of windows. What ms is trying to prevent is the seperation of the preinstalled windows from the hardware for resale purposes. They also consider the software to be part of the original package, and the software must be transferred with the hardware. What ms considers to be illegal is the following: I buy a machine with preinstalled windows I uninstall windows and install a real os I sell/give the version of windows that came with the machine to someone else What ms wants is that when I sell or give away the machine, I must also hand the original version of windows to whoever gets the machine also. -- Alex http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Linux 2.4.18 #5 Sat Mar 9 21:44:22 EST 2002 i686 5:30am up 18:40, 2 users, load average: 2.36, 2.15, 1.85 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A real menagerie!
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 22:45, you wrote: Of course, cups has the software to emulate an lpd server, so you could use lpd from MAC OS X, I believe. Worth looking into... I'm hoping someone out there will say I got a Mac to print through a Samba share to xxx printer which doesn't come with a Mac driver Thats how I do it. Mandrake 8.1 box in basement, with canon bjc4300 attached Windows box upstairs with HP2200 attached to it iMac Upstairs with no printer. The windows box exports the HP printer, the Mandrake box exports the both the Canon the HP (via samba) to the iMac via appletalk. As far as the windows box is concerned, the HP is only shared to the Linux machine, Windows does not even see the iMac, and the iMac does not even see the windows machine. -- Alex http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Linux 2.4.18 #5 Sat Mar 9 21:44:22 EST 2002 i686 8:00pm up 22:15, 2 users, load average: 0.71, 0.50, 0.37 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help! I've killed KDE.
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 17:11, you wrote: Yes, it just had a single line about loosing connection to X server. Are there any log files I could submit to the list for your inspection that would be helpful? Can you bring up an x session other than KDE? if so, try deleting everything in /tmp (especially the ksocket and mcop dirs). Also delete any symlinks to those sockets in your .kde directory. That usually fixes the problem when I have it. -- Alex http://www.qsl.net/kc2ivl Linux 2.4.18 #5 Sat Mar 9 21:44:22 EST 2002 i686 8:10pm up 22:25, 2 users, load average: 0.41, 0.46, 0.40 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd's from mp3's
On Friday 14 December 2001 18:14, you wrote: Hi, This is sure to get something going. I am trying to find a good utility for burning music cd's from mp3 files. Something like mp3cd in win. Anyone got a favorite? try xmp3burn -- it should be on one of your Mandrake distro disks -- Alex Linux 2.4.16 #1 Thu Nov 29 05:52:59 EST 2001 i686 7:30am up 7:51, 2 users, load average: 1.13, 1.02, 0.97 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] y linux sucks (humor)
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:40, you wrote: Yeah, my big problem is I can't decide! Linux should come with just one browser! That way I don't have the choice problem. Tell me about it, but it is not the choice of browsers that I have a problem with, it is the 30 different window managers I have installed. One for each day of the month! -- Alex Linux 2.4.15 #1 Sat Nov 24 16:55:01 EST 2001 i686 4:40pm up 2 days, 22:57, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.03, 1.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] JPilot is not working...
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 23:59, you wrote: Are there any JPilot experts out here? I would very much like to use my Palm Vx for handheld stuff, but jpilot isn't working either (well, not after I changed stuff). I changed some configurations in the mail sync program and now the application fails to open and gives a segmentation fault, and I don't know where to look to change it's configuration file back to it's default settings. ~/.jpilot/jpilot.rc ~/.jpilot/syncmal.rc -- Alex Linux 2.4.14 #1 Wed Nov 7 17:42:41 EST 2001 i686 5:40am up 2 days, 8:41, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] make menuconfig on kernel-2.2.19-5.2
On Wednesday 31 October 2001 12:01, you wrote: I upgraded my kernel from 2.2.19-4.3 to the new 5.2 version using the rpms. I also installed the new source and kernel headers by using the rpms. Now when I run make menuconfig all I see is x x --- x x x x Load an Alternate Configuration File x x x x Save Configuration to an Alternate File x x There are no other options. I've tried loading an alternate config file but that does not help. When I install the old kernel source the menu works fine. Please help. try doing a make clean proior to the make menuconfig and see if that helps. -- Alex Linux 2.4.13-ac5cue #5 Tue Oct 30 08:37:44 EST 2001 i686 9:00pm up 1 day, 5:51, 2 users, load average: 1.04, 1.07, 1.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] netatalk
On Wednesday 31 October 2001 03:00, you wrote: Hello! Did anybody success in installing netatalk on Mandrake 8.1? I have it running under 8.1, but it was originally installed under 8.0 When I want to install it, the installer complains about an incompatibility with glibc. It doesn't surprise me since there Try finding a src rpm, then rebuild it. That usually solves all sorts of problems is usually no way to get software running at once, but I really would like to install it. Maybe it would be a smart idea to have a native support in one of the next Mandake releases... This has been brought up several times on the mailing lists, but it never seems to show up in any of the distro packages. -- Alex Linux 2.4.13-ac5cue #5 Tue Oct 30 08:37:44 EST 2001 i686 5:40am up 14:31, 2 users, load average: 1.07, 1.11, 1.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk 8.1 intstall and F13 key
On Tuesday 02 October 2001 10:38 pm, you wrote: Hello I installed mdk 8.1 on my PC at office and had almost no problems but when I installed it on my laptop my first problem is that the F13 key (windows start key) doesn't seem to work. I tried setting it with Assuming that you are using KDE, the problem is not with modmap, but rather with kcontrol. Run kcontrol, select LookNFeel, then KeyBindings from the left hand tree menu, then set F13 to whatever you want to use it for in the right hand panel. I have mine set to do the same thing that id does in Windows -- bring up the Start menu or K-Menu. -- Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Disconnect every 24 hours
On Saturday 29 September 2001 09:27 pm, Admin wrote: Hello: I have a peculiar problem. I leave my pc pretty much connected to the internet 24/7. Since installing LM8.0, it will disconnect every 24 hours, almost to the second. To get around it, I have configured my Could be your isp disconnecting you, or even your lec. The fact that it happened when you installed 8.0, might just be coincidental. FWIW, my lec disconnects me after 8 hours. -- Alex If you purchased $1000 of Nortel stock a year ago, it would be worth $49 today. If you purchased $1000 of Budweiser (the beer, not stock), and cashed in the cans for the nickle deposit, you would have $79 today... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.0, PPC, and USB Zip
On Friday 21 September 2001 05:34 pm, you wrote: mount won't mount /dev/sda; it says 'unknown device'. How can I fix this? try /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda4 -- Alex If you purchased $1000 of Nortel stock a year ago, it would be worth $49 today. If you purchased $1000 of Budweiser (the beer, not stock), and cashed in the cans for the nickle deposit, you would have $79 today... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kylix Mandrake 8.0?
On Thursday 20 September 2001 03:09 am, you wrote: Has anyone of you successfully installed Kylix on his box with Mandrake 8.0 and should I expect any problems if I start running Borland scripts and patches? I have the open edition on my Mandrake 8.0 machine, it installed without any problems at all. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?OT
On Sunday 09 September 2001 10:50 am, Peter Watson wrote: This one puzzles me however, how can you use a linux utility to remove the partitions that linux resides on. This sounds like the computing equivalent of sawing off the branch that you are sitting on. Any explanations gratefully received. To do this you need to boot of your rescue disk (or the install cd, and select rescue). This way, you are not cutting off the branch you are sitting on, but rather cutting off the branch you were sitting on (before rebooting) -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel Make Commands
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 06:44 pm, you wrote: Alex, thank you very much for your help. In fact, I was not sitting in the correct directory as you politely pointed out in your note. Glad to help, after all, that is what this list is here for. One point of confusion that I've had is how to reconcile differences between distributions with regard to where pieces of the system are located. I've have the O'Reilly Running Linux book which says that the subdirectory for 'make' is something different; there are a lot of I assume that you mean the subdirectory for the linux source. I have the second edition of that book and it has the source located in /usr/src/linux these distribution differences that really get in the way of efficient learning. I've scouted the on-line Mandrake documentation for a similar information about 'make', but, if it is there, clearly I missed it and I apologize in advance for doing so. the man page for make is one of the worst that ther is, try the info page type info make at a command line. O'Reilly also publishes a whole book on make. While I suppose the economics aren't yet with Mandrake, talking one of the computer publishing houses into doing a Mandrake-Linux book [having an author would be good too :-)] which points to these distribution differences would be a really big help. I have seen one book specifically for Mandrake, IIRC, it was one of those Learn xyzzy in 24 Hours books (substitute xyzzy for the technology du jour), and was aimed at newbies. I believe that it was for an older Mandrake distro also, possibly 7.0. As for where things are located, Mandrake is pretty close to RedHat, and very different from Suse, so take a look at a RedHat book (of which there are plenty), and with Linux Standard Base coming along, hopefully all distros will be looking in the same places for the same things. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel Make Commands
On Sunday 02 September 2001 08:16 pm, you wrote: Having upgraded from 7.1 to 8.0 I wanted to change a couple of kernel settings and so typed in (at root) make menuconfig. The message returned was No rule to make target 'menuconfig'. Stop. I also tried xconfig with the same result. I don't understand this because I had no trouble doing this in 7.1. Do you have the kernel source installed ? what is the output of ls -la /usr/src/ did you remember to cd /usr/src/linux before trying to make config -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need to start different window mgr
On Sunday 02 September 2001 10:50 am, Dave Sherman wrote: Anyways I can start icewm as my window manager in gnome, but would rather start up with it in place of gnome. I can't remember which xconfig file to edit and what to edit it with to acheive this. Suggestions/help? Steve, Create a .xinitrc file in your home directory, and in that file have a single line of text: exec some_window_manager Even easier -- startx window_manager_you_want_to_start and /usr/sbin/chksession -l will give you a list of window managers that will work with the above -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Low Resource Window Manager?
On Wednesday 29 August 2001 12:10 pm, Michel Clasquin wrote: t I've got I don't run these myself (which is why I don't have the URLs lying around), but do a google search for ratpoison and one for oroboros. I doubt you'll get more minimalist than those two! Oroborus is pretty cool and reasonably Gnome compliant also (sort of defeats the purpose of low resource manager though). Others to try are Sapphire, Treewm and Golem, you should be able to find all of them on freshmeat.net. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Galeon stopped working
On Friday 24 August 2001 10:27 pm, you wrote: Recently Galeon stopped working on my Mandrake 8 box. When I start it from the command line, I get no error messages of any kind, it just doesn't do anything. All of my other browsers, including Mozilla, work without any problem. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may troubleshoot this problem? I had this exact problem a few weeks ago. No messages, just did not work. It did work for other users, just not me. renamed the ~/.galeon directory restarting -- no effect renamed the ~/.mozilla directory restarting galeon -- this worked. try deleting or renaming your ~/.galeon ~/.mozilla directories -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kernel.2.4.9 problems
On Saturday 25 August 2001 12:37 pm, you wrote: I'm using LM 8.0, and i decided to upgrade my kelnel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.9. And after I compailed and instaled kernel, my linux box can't boot as I wish. Well I use my console in resoultion 1024x768 with 32k color palette (VGA=791) and when I leave this VGA=791 my linux try to switch to that resolution ( I hear the monitor ), and after that nothing on the screen, I only see black screen :(((, I hear my hard drive is working. but screen is dead. I tried to ping my computer in LAN, and he responded to ping. and when I changed in lilo.conf VGA to normal or ask averything work OK. I didn't mentiom maybe it have something with my video card, I have diamond stealth 2 G460( I740 chipset). Does anybody have an idea how to solve this problem. hmmm, sounds sort of familiar. In my case everything worked after upgrading to the 2.4.9 kernel. Everything except hardware video acceleration. I ended up needing to upgrade X to 4.1 and that fixed the problem. There are quite a few options in the 2.4.9 kernel, that might need to be tweaked for your system. Make sure that you have the correct options for framebuffer support and direct video rendering. One other thing, I also upgraded to KDE 2.2, and if this is anything like Mdk8.1 is going to be like, all I can say now is WOW. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What's Raklet?
On Tuesday 21 August 2001 20:13, Paul-H. Gagnon wrote: From Robert Collins French/English dictionary, raclette: a. scraper (tool) b. Swiss cheese dish. Anyone sees a connection with 8.1? Perhaps it's an all gooey install -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Oracle
On Wednesday 15 August 2001 20:07, Miark wrote: Hi all, A friend of mine asked me to recommend a Linux distribution that would best work with an Oracle database. I normally recommend Mandrake for anything and everything, but I don't know squat about databases, and I figured he deserves a more thoughtful answer. His question, specifically, was whether RedHat-based or SuSE would be better. SuSE advertises Oracle support on their web site, but I can't find any mention of Oracle at Mandrake's site. There is no official Oracle / Mandrake support, but it does work. Oracle installed whithou a problem on versions of Mandrake prior to 8.0. With 8.0, some glibc tweaking needs to be done. 1 - update to glibc-2.2.2-5mdk this is the latest one released by Mandrake and was specifically issued for the oracle installer problem (one of them) 2 - if you need to run dbassist (to create a database), get the glibc-2.1.3-stubs.tar.gz fix from otn, to find it, go to the same page you can download 8.1.7 from (IOW a pain to get to) 3 - install 8i, but do not create the database 4 - apply the stubs patch from Oracle, make sure that you read the instructions! 5 - run dbassist and create the database. At this point, oracle was running, but any access to it gave oracle not available errors. Shutting down oracle and restarting it fixed the problem, whatever it was. If you need dretails on WebDB or De6i, just ask. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] anybody use jed?
On Friday 17 August 2001 16:15, you wrote: I'm trying to use jed with brief emulation. I added this to my .jedrc file: () = evalfile (brief); but it doesn't seem to take... any suggestions? First copy the /usr/share/jed/lib/jed.rc file to ~/.jedrc then edit it. I usually use the WordStar/Borland type bindings, and according to the comments in the jed.rc file, the brief bindings are only available in MSDOS. -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake and Oracle
On Friday 17 August 2001 15:14, Dorian_750 wrote: Is there a detailed install for Mandrake 8.0 and Oracle 8i? I have tried and failed to install on 8.0. There is no detailed set of instructions available for Oracle8i on Mandrake 8.0, exactly what problems are you having? -- Alex Steve Balmer, CEO of Microsoft, recently referred to LINUX as a cancer. Unsurprisingly, that's incorrect; LINUX was released on August 25th, 1991 and is therefore a Virgo. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any good Java IDEs for GNU/Linux?
On Monday 30 July 2001 07:32, you wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 6:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Any good Java IDEs for GNU/Linux? I am trying to convert a friend from Windows to GNU/Linux. He does a lot of Java programming in JCreator, which is a Windows-only app. Are there any good alternatives for GNU/Linux? I have noticed that Borland allow free downloads of JBuilder. Is this a possible alternative? JBuilder is good and he might want to also look at Forte from Sun. With Forte all version are free so he could first try it out in Windows to see if it would cover his needs. Charles You could also try VisualAge/Java from the good folks at IBM. You can get a cd for it if you join the IBM DeveloperWorks. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] two usb devices: conflict?
On Thursday 26 July 2001 16:18, you wrote: What I'm wondering is it possible to have two usb devices function at the same time? Surely. If so, just curious, what do you suppose was the problem with the joystick and the scanner? Makes one think some kind of conflict, but rooting around in the /proc/bus/usb directory is a humbling experience. It is possible to have multiple USB devices active at the same time. I have played my USB radio, while synching my USB Visor and accessing my USB Zip drive all at the same time. Is it possible that there is some conflict between the specific devices that you are trying to use at the same time? -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] THat stuck message from Kmail - again.
On Wednesday 25 July 2001 06:26, John Rigby wrote: Hi there, On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:15, you manipulated electrons to produce: Leave interval checking off in kmail, then set up fetchmail as a cron job. When you need your mail fix, just retrieve it from local. ***Thanks, but I have no idea what you mean here! :-) THIS is a real Newby out here.. run fetchmailconf from an xterm, and fill in the blanks. This should be the same info that you put into kmail to get your mail. then run kcron to create a crontab entry. Set it ro run every 15 minutes or so. Exit kcron, and save the crontab. Finally go into kmail/settings/configuration/network and create a local incoming email account. Now when you want to read mail, just click file/check mail in/local from the kmail menu. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Load visor module at boot
On Thursday 19 July 2001 15:38, Steven Watt wrote: Hello I sync a Handspring Visor (USB interface) with my Linux Mandrake 8.0 system. Everytime I reboot I have to enter the command root $ /sbin/modprobe visor for things to work properly. It's not a big bother, but a bother nonetheless. What do I have to do to have the visor module loaded automatically when I boot? add it to /etc/modules on my box it looks like this # # usb # usbcore usb-uhci # # usb zip # usb-storage # # visor # usbserial visor # # radio # videodev dsbr100 # # fs # appletalk vfat # # ftape # ftape zftape scsi_hostadapter scsi_hostadapter1 All that you should need are the usb visor sections -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Eyes applet
On Friday 06 July 2001 10:26, you wrote: I have a STUPID problem =/ I added the eyes applet to the kde panel but i don't like it ( i feel watched ) all other applets i can get rid of with right clicking it and choosing remove BUT NOT EYES HELP Position your mouse over the eyes, then move it slightly to the left. The eyes should now be looking at a dotted bar (it is really hard to see, I thing the eyes might need glasses) right click on the dotted bar, then select remove. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] mini linux distro recommendations
On Wednesday 04 July 2001 00:19, Fireman71 wrote: Not really related to Mandrake but I am looking for a mini linux distro (under 20 meg and preferably one just one floppy) that i can load onto an old 386 computer and configure to act as an internet masquerading / firewall machine. Anyone have any ideas? freesco -- http://ww.freesco.org easy to setup, fits on a single floppy. I have it running on an old 486, and it has been working great. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] ATI Rage 128 freezes X?
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 07:37, Dan Ray wrote: Alex-- Post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 here and lets take a look at it. It follows. Since I'm basically completely ignorant about XFree86, I have little idea what's relevant in it and what isn't, so I'm including it in its entirety. I'd bet I should be paying particular attention to the Unknown settings in the Device section.. ** # Screen sections # ** Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device ATI Rage 128 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 24 The only major difference from yours to mine is the default color depth. Try changing it to 16 -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] gnome chess starting on login
On Sunday 24 June 2001 14:15, Dan Gordon wrote: No i tryed playing the game one night did not like it and closed it as normal, when i logged off i did not click restore session but the darn thing now starts each time i login... strange but true ? When i do top or gps i can still see it running, if i kill the prossess it still starts next time i login. Sounds familiar. It took me a few hours to figure out where it was coming from.. Take a look in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc and remove any references to gnome-chess -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] ATI Rage 128 freezes X?
On Monday 25 June 2001 16:12, Dan Ray wrote: Howdy-- I'm a relative-newbie; certainly new to Mandrake's (excellent, IMO) distro. Here's a problem I'm having that I've never seen before; certain apps (in particular, ones that I know use GL or Mesa) completely freeze my machine. In a full-screen app (eg Tuxracer), I get a big black screen. In a windowed app, my X display stays up, but nothing responds. The mouse still moves, interestingly, but clicks don't register. Meanwhile, more mundane X stuff works great. It's an ATI Rage 128 AGP. Harddrake seems to be seeing it on the PCI bus, which strikes me as odd. I'm using the XFree86 4.0.3 that came with Mandrake 8, on a 1000mhz Athlon with 384 Mb of ram. I just installed one of these myself (a rage fury pro) and it works great. In fact, kudzu recognized it and configured it correctly when I booted the machine after installing it. Windows took 3 reboots before it was wqorking correctly. Post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 here and lets take a look at it. . -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Question
On Wednesday 20 June 2001 17:25, Jay needs a Guinness wrote: Can I safely uninstall printpro and it's related files safely. I can't You should be able to do that without that many problems but you might need to reconfigure your printer again. Personally, I would uninstall printpro relarted files, along with all of the ghostscript rpms, then reinstall ghostscript, and finally run the printer configurator again (at least that is what I did last time I really hosed up my printing in 7.2). configure my printer and I believe printpro to be the culprit. When I installed LM 7.2 from a single CD, me printer was configured OK. Only when I installed the Power Pack and all the CD's, did my printer become impossible to configure. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Corel Paint and FontTastic
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 23:01, OOzy Pal wrote: Hello I installed corel paint fine but when I run it, it asks about FontTastic server? Where can I find it. It should have been included with the download/cd from corel. it is fonttastic-glibc-2.1-something-or-other.rpm you will need to install it with the --nodeps and --noscript options -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Desktop Publishing
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 11:04, Kevin Fonner wrote: I want to get into graphics and animation, but at the same time I am beginning to use Linux more and more. Do any professional graphics editing, desktop publishing, and animation programs exist out there? graphics editing - gimp, should be on your installation disks destop publishing - Ice Sculptor from chilliware http://chilliware.net it is commercial and costs about USD $80 animation - no answer for you there, someone else might have an idea -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Window Manager Options
On Saturday 09 June 2001 04:45, Tom Woolley wrote: I have my machine set to boot to runlevel 3. When starting X from the command line, how do I get it to give me a list of window managers to choose from rather than automatically starting the default window manager? Thanks, Tom /usr/sbin/chksession -l will give you a list of available window managers startx ??? where ??? is one of the window managers from the list above, will start the desired window manager example on my system (you won't have all of these managers) [alex@homer alex]$ /usr/sbin/chksession -l KDE Gnome WindowMaker Enlightenment BlackBox XFce AfterStep IceWM Sawfish Fvwm2 Fvwm1 Sapphire Swm aewm2 ion alloywm swm aewm amiwm pwm mlvwm qvwm twm mwm Oroborus Golem default failsafe to start KDE, I would use startx KDE to start Gnome, I would use startx Gnome to start Sapphire, I would use startx Sapphire -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] More USB stuff
On Friday 08 June 2001 03:11, Chubby Vic wrote: Hi again Is there a way to test my USB port other than a mouse? I was trying to get it to recognise a USB mouse but no go. Anyone have a good idea of a USB-driven device I could connect up just to see how well it works? What other USB devices do you have available? -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] refreshing menus
On Sunday 03 June 2001 21:01, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Pablo GarcÃa Durán wrote: I just installed new applications using RPM, but I cannot see them. I went to Control Center but this didn't help. What should I do? Thank you! -- Pablo GarcÃa Durán Pablounless the rpms are prepared by MandrakeSoft they usually don't have the capability of inserting menu enries into mdk menus. Use K(menu)-Configure Panel-Menu Editor to add menu entries for this type of software. You can also just create an entry in /etc/menu Take a look at man menufile for details or take a peek at some of the entries that are already in /usr/lib/menu -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Lilo
On Sunday 03 June 2001 01:41, you wrote: How? I rebooted my comouter again. Still nothing changed Post the contents of lilo.conf here along with the output of ls -la /boot -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Unusably slow printing in 8.0 using 'official' HP DeskJet drivers?
On Wednesday 30 May 2001 07:52, Michael Carr wrote: I was wondering whether anyone using 8.0 is experiencing prohibitively slow print-outs with the bundled HP DeskJet drivers. I have a Business InkJet 2200 attached to a win98 machine. Printing from Linux to it via a samba share is acceptable, very good quality, reasonable speed, just a bit slower than when printing directly from windows. Printing from the kid's iMac thru netatalk then thru samba, the quality is the same, but very slow. Overall, I am pleased with it, but I am considering getting the real postscript card seeing if that makes a difference. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Sapphire
On Monday 28 May 2001 18:43, Civileme wrote: Well I have Sapphire running, but only for my own machine. Making it work as a wm is fairly easy, but integrating it into the menu system is not for the faint of heart. Expect a package in six weeks or so. Sapphire is one of my favorite small window managers, I have been using it for several months now (currently using 0.15.7pre8) and am looking forward to having it integrated into the menu system. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Windows Font Installer takes a very long time to install fonts in LM8
On Monday 28 May 2001 20:45, Romanator wrote: Hi all, I was trying to install the Windows fonts in Mandrake Control Center. I have been waiting 15 minutes and it is still installing. Is this normal? The version of drakfont included with 8.0 takes a very long time to do the install, The version from cooker is faster. kfontinst is faster than drakfont, and has the ability to add/preview and remove fonts The fastest way is to do a ttmkfdir mkfontdir from the commandline and then edit /etc/X11/fs/config -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Accessing Linux shares from a Mac
On Thursday 17 May 2001 15:09, Mark Johnson wrote: Is it possible to setup shares such that both Windows and Mac machines can access them. Can SAMBA work for both OSs? I need a solution because my office is half Windows 98 and half Mac 9.0 and currently the file server is a Mac using PCMacLAN. We won't to move the shares onto a linux machine but it doesn't look like it's possible to access the shares on Linux from MAC. Using an FTP client on the Mac is out of the question because the users won't go for it. Any suggestions? You will need netatalk for the macs and samba for the windows machines. I had netatalk running fine on 7.2, but can't seem to get it working correctly on 8.0. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie]
On Wednesday 16 May 2001 07:10, Marcia Waller wrote: Dear All, Have any of you downloaded and setup limewire yet? I am trying to do this. I have downloaded it but cannot figure out how to install and get it going. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia I installed it as a user, just chmod +x LimeWireLinux.bin and then ./LimeWireLinux.bin install to your home directory and then ./LimeWire/LimeWire -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] cold fusion and oracle 8i standard
On Wednesday 16 May 2001 14:30, william R. Nash wrote: Hello Has anyone use the following software together on a linux mandrake 8.0 machine. if you is there any problems i need to know. cold fusion 4.5 or better and oracle 8i standard. I have installed Oracle8i (8.1.7) Enterprise edition on a Mandrake 8.0 machine, along with WebDB Dev6i, the installation for the Standard edition would be the same, here is the process I followed 1 - update to glibc-2.2.2-5mdk this is the latest one released by Mandrake and was specifically issued for the oracle installer problem (one of them) 2 - if you need to run dbassist (to create a database), get the glibc-2.1.3-stubs.tar.gz fix from otn, to find it, go to the same page you can download 8.1.7 from (IOW a pain to get to) 3 - install 8i, but do not create the database 4 - apply the stubs patch from Oracle, make sure that you read the instructions! 5 - run dbassist and create the database. At this point, oracle was running, but any access to it gave oracle not available errors. Shutting down oracle and restarting it fixed the problem, whatever it was (I think that dbassist left oracle actually running, but the database unmounted, I do not recall having that problem in the past). 6 - ran webdb installer, no problems in the install 7 - from prior experience, I remembered to remove lesstif, and install openmotif 8 - installed dev6i no problems in the install, but the reports server does not seem to be working, still gotta work that out. Most likely a borked config file somewhere. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] USB ZIP 250
On Monday 14 May 2001 23:09, Jeffrey M. Reed wrote: was wondering if anyone got theirs to work and how! Should not be any different than a USB ZIP 100 Make sure you have an entry in /etc/fstab for your zip /dev/zip/mnt/zipauto user,noauto,nosuid,nodev 0 0 and that /dev/zip is a symlink to /dev/sda4 and that /mnt/zip exists then add the following to /etc/modules # # usb # usbcore usb-uhci usb-storage and reboot You might need usb-ohci instead of usb-uhci, depending on your USB controller chips. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Hmmmm...Might be a silly question
On Tuesday 15 May 2001 15:00, Rod Upfold wrote: Is there a way to setup my inhome network? What I want to is to put my server in the basement and have no keyboard, monitor or mouse attached to it and be able to control or make adjustments from my other computer somewhere in the house? Hope I made it clear...what my thinking are...or is it a silly question? I have a server here with no monitor or mouse, just a keyboard (this particular system won't work without one, gives a keyboard error, press f1 message when booting if it does not find a keyboard) You will most likely need a monitor and keyboard to do the install, but once installed you should be able to remove both. You should be able to do most of the configuration via webmin or telnet. *** -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] How to configure linux to retrieve email from ISP
On Thursday 10 May 2001 20:36, you wrote:
on 5/10/01 6:04 PM, Mark Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way that I can configure linux (daemon) to retrieve mail
from for the all users on the machine from their ISP so that the just
have to point their email client to the linux box instead of the ISP.
Set up a mail server like Postfix with Procmail
http://postfix.org
That would be the first thing to do, It should be on the distro cds also.
You should install fetchmail next, also on the distro cd's
then have each user setup fetchmail, you can use fetchmailconf for that,
which happens to be on the distro cds also
then run a script like this from cron to snag all usermail
#!/bin/bash
# usermail - bash script to snag mail for each
# user that has a .fetchmailrc file
#
# echo Starting mail download for all users
run=0
for i in `cat /etc/passwd |
awk -F : '{ print $1 $6}'`; do
if [ $run -eq 0 ]
then
name=$i
run=1
else
home=$i
run=0
if [ -r $home/.fetchmailrc ]
then
echo getting mail for $name
su -l -c /usr/bin/fetchmail -s -t 500 $name
fi
fi
done
--
Alex
Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Banned from my own server
On Monday 30 April 2001 04:32, you wrote: I think that the user must have made an illegal move and is now bared. I have tried removing the user and then installing him again. It makes no difference. How can I rectify this problem? I have done this to myself. Check your hosts.deny file -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] zip drives
On Sunday 15 April 2001 10:12, you wrote: On my zip drive there's a small, translucent plastic button. When the drive is accessed the button glows green. I've watched that button glow for a year. I used windoze and always ejected the cartridge via a software command. I never thought to press it until I read your suggestion. So, I give it a try, just to see what happens, and low and behold, the drive ejects the cartridge whether I umount it first, or not. I knew as soon as I sent my request for help that it sounded pretty lame. I knew I'd get some reply about pressing the eject button, something I knew I didn't have one of. Well... Thanks very much from a newly commissioned officer of the brain dead newbie division. I assume I need to umount /mnt/zip before I eject the cartridge? Like not ejecting a floppy without unmounting the file, first? if you are using supermount, you might be able to get away without unmounting it (that's the main idea behind supermount), otherwise you will eventually run into problems if you do not unmount before pressing the button. You can always use the eject command, which will do an unmount prior to ejecting the disk, be careful though, the springs in some zip drives will send a disk flying. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] zip drives
On Saturday 14 April 2001 09:51, you wrote: I'm another newbie refugee from the unstable world of windows. Naturally, therefore, my hardware is "windoze compatible" How do I eject a cartridge out of a zip drive? eject /dev/zip -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] problem with too much ram
On Monday 09 April 2001 15:18, you wrote: Hi everyone, I have a problem with adding RAM that I hope someone can help me with. We have a Compaq SP750 (dual P3 866 Xeon) that had 1.5GB of RDRAM. When we added another 512MB to bring the total up to 2GB, the LM7.1 installed on the machine refuse to boot. It gets to the place where it's suppose to load the RAM disk (I think) but go into kernel panic: unable to mount root. We tried just putting in 1792MB of RAM, then the machine boots up w/o any problems. Anyone has any idea why? Just guessing here, but the maximum amount of memory is a kernel config option. Perhaps the kernel on the installation cd is set to something les than 2G? -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] compiling kernel
On Monday 09 April 2001 10:46, you wrote: hello Since a while I've been having problems compiling the 2.4.x kernel on LM7.2 and what should I put in the processor type section. I am current ly using a Duron 700 and I choose the Athlon/K7 as processor type to be compiled for. BTW is there any guide to intalling glibc 2.2 on mandrake. cheers dooshiant here the error msg i always get when compile: In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/string.h:21, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/fs.h:23, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/binfmts.h:5, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:9, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/slab.h:14, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/malloc.h:4, from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/proc_fs.h:5, from init/main.c:15: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_memcpy3d': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/string.h:305: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__memcpy3d': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/string.h:312: `current' undeclared (first use in this function) make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 are you compiling from the "official" kernel sources, or from some kernel-source rpm. If from the tarballs on kernel.org, you will need to symlink usr/src/linux/include/asm/ to the correct architecture. I know this one `cause it bit me in the butt more than once. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] compiling kernel
On Monday 09 April 2001 19:27, you wrote: hi well /usr/src/linux/include/asm/ points to asm-i386/ which seems ok to As it should for an Intel system., don't think the amd is all that different. me. by any chance, does the 2.4.x kernel need glibc2.2? Not that I know of, I compiled a 2.4 kernel using glibc2.1, worked fine -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] No-- kisocd in MD8.0
On Sunday 01 April 2001 23:17, you wrote: hi i used to use kisocd in mandrake 7.1 which i liked very much, however it does not seem to be on Mandrake 8.0 beta2 nor will it install. the other 2 xcdroast and gtoast look like cd music only burners and no good for doing file backups from the harddrive. is there anything else that will do the job for linux mandrake 8.0??? kisocd does not work with 7.2 either, it is a kde 1.x program, and the drag and drop does not work the same in kde 7.2 I don't think we will see a version included again until the author ports to kde2.x What works well in place of kisocd is eroaster, as it has the same single file mix match capabilities that kisocd has. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Upgrading RedHat?
On Saturday 31 March 2001 11:41, you wrote: On Friday 30 March 2001 15:24, you wrote: On Friday 30 March 2001 08:43, you wrote: Hi. Is it possible to upgrade from RedHat 7.0 to Mandrake 7.2 without loosing too much information? What kind of info do I risk to loose? We've got qmail with vmail and courier on that machine right now and we don't look forward to loosing all the mail and accounts or the configurations. I'd be grateful for any help or comments onthis. /Patrik I think RedHat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 are essentially similar in terms of kernel, etc. Why would you even take the chance of upgrading from a distro to a distro, besides I am sure that it cannot be done. Remember the old adage, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Ummm you could upgrade from RH 7.0 to Mandrake 8.0 reasonably easily but an upgrade to 7.2 is not possible--there are binary incompatibilities from differing libraries, incompatible binary rpm packages, and rpm versions, and even different compilers! We chose to stay with glibc2.1 and rpm3 one generation of software longer than RH, because we felt the compiler was not yet stable enough for general use, and the package of compiler, lib, and rpm version were not easily separable. Civileme What about doing the following - Backup /home /etc - Do a complete install - Restore /home /etc This would keep most things the same, of course you will loose anything not installed by rpm or after installation of RH anything that was not part of both the RH Mandrake installs. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Emptying the location bar in Netscape 4.76
On Saturday 31 March 2001 19:14, you wrote: Hi everybody, I know I have done this before in Windows. But, in Linux, how can I empty the location bar in Netscape? rm ~/.netscape/history.list -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] graphics q
On Saturday 31 March 2001 17:40, you wrote: A V Flinsch wrote: Anyone know of a console command to convert a bmp to a jpg? Situation is as follows: Windows box on network generating bmp's to a shared linux directory I want a cron script to convert the bmp's to jpg's I could do it manually, via gimp or some other utility, but I really want a cmd line version that could be scripted. A Vconvert I was looking for somethinkg like bmp2xxx , but that did it, and more... -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Anybody using a PDA w/ Linux?
On Friday 30 March 2001 10:13, you wrote: In a couple of months I plan to get a PDA. I keep flip flopping between the Palm and the Visor and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions. I saw that the iPAQ could run linux, but i think once you get linux on it you can't restore the device to it's original OS state, which kind of sucks because I want a PDA to hack on. I want to look into writing PDA software to control my linux machine via TCP (or serial interface if lan is not available) so I wanted something that was LAN enabled but not sure if that is a reality yet with PDAs. I know the Visor has add on slots - so I'm leaning towards visor, but I heard the next Palms are going to have these slots too... Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions or opinions? I have a Visor and it works great with jpilot. Disadvantages of the Visor are: USB - (not really a problem anymore) NonUpgradable OS -- it is not in flash like the other palm devices. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] CorelPHOTOPAINT9 Install
On Wednesday 28 March 2001 17:45, you wrote: Hi, This may not be the right place to ask, but I thought someone here said something about having installed PhotoPaint on their machine. I can't install FontTastic, the RPM Manager tells me, "file etc/init.d from install of fonttastic-glibc-2.1-200.06.22.14.00 conflicts with file from package initscripts-5.27-37mdk". How do I get it to work?? rpm -Uhv fonttastic-glibc-2.1-200.06.22.14.00 --force --nodeps -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Bad Magic???
On Friday 23 March 2001 15:17, you wrote: here's the thing. it happens to any RPM that I download. Moose What are you using to do the download? Did you remenber to do it in binary mode? Can you install a rpm off of the distro CD? -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] talk daemon
On Monday 19 March 2001 23:42, you wrote: Hey a quick question...Does anyone know how to start up the talk and ytalk daemons in Mandrake Linux 7.2? Andrew uncomment the talk and ytalk lines in /etc/inetd.conf then restart inetd -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Desktop problems
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 15:37, you wrote: Hello, I just installed Mandrake Linux, and I am somewhat new to linux. I am having trouble with Mandrake. The desktop does not come up when I boot into Linux. I just get a prompt with a Dos graphic of the linux penguin. What did I do wrong in the install??? You didn't do anything wrong, you are in linux. What you did not do, was to tell the system to start up in X. sign on using the username/password that you created during the install, then type startx If you want to have the system automatically start up in x when you boot, you will need to change the default runlevel. Change the line in /etc/inittab that reads id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: (you will need to be root to do this) -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Installing a netgear FA311 NIC...help!!!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:22 PM Subject: [newbie] Installing a netgear FA311 NIC...help!!! Operating system: Mandrake 7.2 Network Card(NIC): Netgear FA311 I've tried several times to install this card. No luck as of yet. I am new to linux/unix. The drivers that came with this NIC are not as up to date as the kernel for Mandrake 7.2 is apparently "too new." I've contacted Netgear on this and they basically said that I was S.O.L. Anyone know where I CAN download newer drivers that WILL work? And if so, would someone mind giving this newbie STEP BY STEP directions on how to install them? I've trying this for over 2 months now. Any help would be MORE than appreciated!!! Thanks in advance!!! I have one as my second network card, and it works, just follow the following directions 1 - download the redhat 6.x driver from netgear, if you have problems finding it, let me know and I will email you the zipfile 2 - unzip the file that you downloaded above 3 - rename the FA311.C FA311.H files to fa311.c fa311.h 4 - make 5 - as root cp the resulting module to /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ 6 - insmod fa311 -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Installing a netgear FA311 NIC...help!!!
On Sunday 04 March 2001 07:25, I wrote, and provided an incorrect answer for which I am truely sorry for I have one as my second network card, and it works, just follow the following directions 1 - download the redhat 6.x driver from netgear, if you have problems finding it, let me know and I will email you the zipfile GAAACK - you actually need to dl the RedHat 7 version, the 6.x verssion does not compile correctly either 2 - unzip the file that you downloaded above yep still need to do that 3 - rename the FA311.C FA311.H files to fa311.c fa311.h nope, what you do need to do is rename the makefile.dat to makefile 4 - make yep, still needed to do that 5 - as root cp the resulting module to /lib/modules/2.2.17-21mdk/net/ and that 6 - insmod fa311 and that Sorry for any confusion, if anyone needs the corrected files, just email me and I will send them -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [newbie] Can't Install ICEvm
On Sunday 18 February 2001 12:26, you wrote: I can't install ICEwm. I am tring to install it via RPM. When I try rpm -i (the package ) I get mod errors libICE.so.6 is needed by icewm-0.9.42-1 libSM.so.6 is needed by icewm-0.9.42-1 libX11.so.6 is needed by icewm-0.9.42-1 libXext.so.6 is needed by icewm-0.9.42-1 libXpm.so.4 is needed by icewm-0.9.42-1 I've checked in /usr/X11R6/lib and they are all there, complete with the same ver number. I checked to see if they were found by the ld.so by checking the ld.so.conf file and the file has /usr/X11R6/lib listed but it will not work..If anyone can help me please feel free. I think that these are part of the XFree86-libs package. If you did not install X from rpm, then rpm will not find them, if you did install from rpm, then your rpm database might have gotten hosed (not an uncommon occurance with rpm). Since you seem to actually have all of the dependencies, you could try installing with the --nodeps parameter. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Cant do direct cd copy
On Tuesday 06 February 2001 23:02, you wrote: Hello Well I got my first cdrom recognised by the scsi emulation, and I can get eroaster to at least read the cdrom, but I cannot make anything do a direct cd to cd-r copy, with anything I try, any audio cd, any data cd, I do not understand what I am doing wrong, is it possible to make an iso of an audio cd? audio cd's do not contain a iso file system. Tyr using xcdroast and pick the duplicate cd button If so how, I tried dd if=/dev/hdb of=/usr/tmp/testiso.iso and nothing it wont go. Please help Thanks Vic -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] KDE desktop
On Tuesday 06 February 2001 05:53, you wrote: yes...I have a dir called: /home/kit and the file is not there but not a dir called: /usr/home/kit if you had the file it would be in ~/ (a more generic method of specifying a home directory) Since you do not have the .Xclients file, there must be something else wrong. Try starting kde then closing the offending gnome panel. then close kde normally and make sure to save your setup. Next restart kde and see if the problem still exists. Other places to check would be .xsession .xinitrc .Xclients-default and .xsession -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Distro
On Wednesday 07 February 2001 18:42, you wrote: Knowing that this list belongs to Mandrake users. I want to know the bunch of reasons why you picked up mandrakes distribution. I am about to make my decision about wich distribution, that is why I joined the list. I am newbie not only to mandrake distribution but to linux as well. Of course I would like to know the downs of this distribution. I know that sometimes picking a distribution is matter of preference as is choosing the flavor of an ice cream on a sunny day. So feel free to toss your opinions as silly or crazy as they might seem. I originally chose Mandrake as my distro of choice back with release 6.0, one of my main reasons was that I had read a redhat book and Mandrake was laid out the same way. Mandrake was chosen over rh for 4 reasons #1 Mandrake came with StarOffice 5.1 (everyone else had 5.0). I was familiar with SO on Windows and felt that 5.1 was significantly better than 5.0, and hoped that the same thing held true in Linux. #2 The Pentium compile bit. I was buying a new computer to experiment with Linux on, and felt that the Pentimum optimization was a goot thing. #3 KDE #4 I liked the logo better. Since I was an old "Mandrake the Magician" fan, I sort of fell for it. How many other folks out there know who Lothar (the old name for harddrake) really was? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Cd recorder works but-----
On Sunday 04 February 2001 21:06, you wrote: Did you rerun lilo reboot? can you append the ouptut of ls -la /dev | grep cdr and cdrecord --scanbus Ok did that, no response, its either dumb or broken. On Sunday 04 February 2001 06:04 pm, so spoke A V Flinsch: On Sunday 04 February 2001 12:56, you wrote: I got that part to work, but the cd rom read only drive is not recognised by xcdroast, linux will recognise it, but not the app because the app wants a scsi drive, how would I go about making the first drive as a reader get recognised by xcdroast so I can direct copy a cd in the reader to the already working burner, the reader is not recognised by the app, just linux. You need to do the same thing that you did to get your burner working. Setup your cdrom to be under scsi emulation also. Note to Mandrake folks -- This seems to be a common problem. Why not change the install and setup programs to automatically setup all ide cd drives as scsi emulation? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Cd recorder works but-----
On Sunday 04 February 2001 12:56, you wrote: I got that part to work, but the cd rom read only drive is not recognised by xcdroast, linux will recognise it, but not the app because the app wants a scsi drive, how would I go about making the first drive as a reader get recognised by xcdroast so I can direct copy a cd in the reader to the already working burner, the reader is not recognised by the app, just linux. You need to do the same thing that you did to get your burner working. Setup your cdrom to be under scsi emulation also. Note to Mandrake folks -- This seems to be a common problem. Why not change the install and setup programs to automatically setup all ide cd drives as scsi emulation? -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] CompuPic and Mozilla
On Sunday 28 January 2001 17:39, you wrote: Friends: Having a little trouble with CompuPic and Mozila. Same problem with both. They have been running fine for quite a while, since november, and now all of the sudden they have stopped working. By that I mean when I open CompuPic, I get the splash screen for about a second and then it disappears and nothing happens after that. Never does it show up. Mozilla is a little different. It will actually load a page and then just disappears. I'm not really sure what's going on and have tried to re-install them several times to no avail. Is this a problem that people have seen before? Sorta' lost on what I should try next. :) open a xterm and run them from the command line. You might get a hint about what is going on. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: Re: [newbie] Goodbye
On Tuesday 30 January 2001 06:40, you wrote: Go figure, huh... Kscd can play the cd but no sound is coming out. I have decent sound for events on all window managers, xmms works. Since sound is working it sounds like you are missing the audio cable between your soundcard and your cd drive. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] civilisation clone
On Sunday 28 January 2001 15:35, you wrote: during installation of mandrake 7.1, I observed quickly something about a x-game called civilisation clone. What is the exact name of this clone? freeciv there are two parts civserver and civclient -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Error Compiling Netatalk
On Saturday 20 January 2001 16:48, you wrote: When I run make I get the following output before make exits: make[4]: Entering directory `/home/david/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3/etc/afpd' gcc -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER -DUAM_RNDNUM -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PAM -DAPPLCNAME -c -o unix.o unix.c In file included from unix.c:19: auth.h:12: security/pam_appl.h: No such file or directory [alex@homer alex]$ locate pam_appl.h /usr/share/doc/pam-doc-0.72/html/pam_appl.html /usr/include/security/pam_appl.h [alex@homer alex]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/security/pam_appl.h pam-devel-0.72-13.1mdk Any ideas on what I need to do to make this compile would be much appreciated. install the pam-devel package. I think it is on the second cd. if you don't have it, try http://rpmfind.net -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Anyone know about burning a CD-RW ?
On Friday 19 January 2001 20:32, you wrote: Hi Specifically, does anyone know how to make other cd roms read the cd rw you just burnt? I clicked on fixate to make it fixate the cd after the burn, this works on cd-r but not cd-rw, I can read the cd-rw in the burner, but not in the cdrom like I can the cd-r. Weird and I don't get it. Some cdrom drives just do not like to read cdrw's, That's just the way it is. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Tuesday 16 January 2001 22:23, you wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Is that broken and can't use cdrecorder? I have a Plextor W8432T and kernel 2.2.14-15mdk will it work or am I screwed? I have AMD K6 400 64Mb sysram I can mount the drive on /dev/hdd as a cdrom, but I already have a cdrom so thats no good as a recorder. Do all of the following as root add a line that looks like append=" hdd=ide-scsi" to the correct stanza in /etc/lilo.conf then execute /sbin/lilo next add the following lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local modprobe ide-scsi modprob sg now reboot, you should be able to access your cdwriter on /dev/scd0 if this works, edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this, and try writing a cd. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] x3270
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 01:43, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 12:00 am, Carl Lafferty wrote: A friend of mine not on the list yet (she teaches a great deal of the time) has some problems with x3270. on my 7.2 install I can use it to connect just fine but everytime she tries to run it it says "internal reconfiguration error" It works on my 7.2 install, If she is having problems try uninstalling x3270 reinstalling it, something might be missing. If that does not work, try rebuilding the binary rpm from the source rpm and reinstalling that one. It might be some sort of library mismatch. Me either and i don't even know her. What's a 'x3270' ? Sort of like an xterm, but it emulates a tn3270 for IBM big iron boxes. OK, I did a google on it out'a curiousity, and their homepage says if you don't know what it is ... you don't need one http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7814/ . damn this list is fun ; -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Kmenu
On Sunday 14 January 2001 19:34, you wrote: HELP-please !! I need help...in editing the kmenu system... when I click 0n the big "K" on the kpanel... I now see...4 menuitem LINKS to each app mentioned.. I tried re-installing kdebase, menu, and everything else I could think of in RPMsI tried SUing to root...and commanding: update-menus -v and menueditor both in user, and in root mode how can I fix this...? update-menus as root update-menus as user then exit and restart kde -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] fontastic rpm and corel photopaint 9
On Monday 08 January 2001 17:13, you wrote: howdy. a while back Alex answered a question for someone else, and i have the same problem. their corel photopaint 9 would not run as the fonttastic font server was not installed. Alex said to simply install the rpm as it should be with the corel files. well, i went to do this (i do have the rpm) but i get the following output: file /etc/init.d from install of fonttastic conflicts with file from package initscripts-5.27-37mdk what exactly is this init.d file? It is a directory, and it should already exist. You are getting the conflict because the rpm is trying to create it. i find that "ls init.d" gives a whole list of files for an output. what are my options to get around this? if i simply force the install is something going to crash and burn? use the force option, you should not crash and burn... At least I didn't.. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Portsentry reporting
On Tuesday 02 January 2001 00:55, you wrote: On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: Should be in /var/log/messages You can also take a look at /etc/portsentry.history to see what ended up being blocked. Hi again everyone, this has been puzzling me for a while. I have portsentry installed and configured on two machines (in conjunction with pmfirewall) and have not been able to determine where to look for reports on possible attacks or unauthorized access attempts. Where should I look for this information? Does portsentry send e-mail to root? Thanks for any info available. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] O'Reilly book
On Saturday 30 December 2000 10:47, you wrote: The latest edition of O'Reilly's 'Running Linux' is the second edition, right? Just want to be absolutely sure before I go out to get it. Thanks -- Abe The current latest and greatest edition is the third. I have the second edition, I believe the third edition has expanded coverage about X/KDE/Gnome -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Creating PDF Files From within StarOffice
On Wednesday 27 December 2000 21:06, you wrote: Some time ago when StarOffice was 5.2 someone put out instructions and a small script file that enabled users to create PDF files from star office by printing to a PDF printer device. I've been able to get this to work under md7.2 with little effort and it seems to work OK. It consists of an instruction file (in pdf) and a script file (total size about 25kbyte). If anyone wants the info let me know. Its a pity it couldn't be a permanent part of either star office or the md7.x install as it certainly makes things easier. Nev from staroffice file print select generic postscript printer check print to file box give it a filename OK from console ps2pdf file_you_saved_above -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
[newbie] Re: [expert] What the heck is this daily cron task?
What is this task: [chris@localhost cron.daily]$ less slocate.cron #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/slocate -u -f "udf,nfs,smbfs,ncpfs,proc,devpts,iso9660,usbdevfs" -e "/tmp,/var/tmp,/usr/tmp,/afs,/net" This annoying task looks around on my hard drive for half an hour, consuming 50% of my CPU time on a PII 300. Is this needed? Can I cancel it? I have no idea what it's trying to do. It is building the database used by locate. Locate allows you to quickly find a file, or files with a given stirng int he name. It is pretty useful. If you find it annoying, you can remove the entry from the crontab. If you find locate to be useful, perhaps you can reschedule it to run at a more convient time for you. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Disk filling up
On Friday 22 December 2000 04:29, you wrote: Anthony, Thank you for responding and I really got gassed by doing what you suggested. That was pretty awesome except it didn't help me find what the cause of filled disk was. It remains a mystery. And I checked everything very thoroughly too. I seearched down thru the list twice to make sure I didn't skip over anything. Just guessing, but since the problem occured while running in X, take a look at the size of your .xsession-errors file. Everytime that my /home partition has mysteriously gotten full it was the culprit. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] how to write scripts
On Thursday 21 December 2000 16:00, you wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Stefaans Mostert wrote: Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31 Remember netscape is in fact /usr/bin/netscape/ Give you a clue :-) Thanks. But the note from Cron was that netscape could not connect to the display... So netscape was run. Of course, you are free to try it too :) paul create a file like this and make it executable #!/bin/sh export DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/netscape and have cron kick the above script off The real question is why would you want netscape to be kicked off at a praticular time. Netscape is sort of an interactive thing, which makes little sense to run from a cron table. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] ReiserFS
On Wednesday 20 December 2000 10:46, you wrote: Hi... In the LM7.2 Expert Install there is an option for using "hard drive optimizations". Is this LM's obscure way of referring to ReiserFS? If not, where else in the Installer can one choose ReiserFS? the hard drive optimizations are loaded as an append to the kernel. I have never had it work correctly, and have had it leave me with an unbootable system. ReiserFS can be chosen when you partition the drive. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Opera for Linux
On Sunday 17 December 2000 04:31, you wrote: I bet you money that Java will be implemented for the final version... It already is in the windows version, plus it went semi free, you have a choice of sponsored mode (with ads) or pay. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Switchdesk
On Friday 15 December 2000 11:16, you wrote: When I installed MDK 7.2 a month or so ago, it came up in Gnome. I swear that at that point I used switchdesk to change to KDE. Now I'd like to play with Gnome some more but I cannot find it on the system anywhere. I've persused the list archives, and found some messages indicating that I should create a .Xclients file, which I did, but startx still brings me up in KDE. Do I also need to modify some other file? Was switchdesk truly removed by some upgrade I did along the way? Yep, switchdesk vanished with 7.2, but there is still a way execute the following to bring up a list of window managers that are installed /usr/sbin/chksession -l then startx NAME_OF_WM_FROM_LIST_ABOVE -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
