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2000-11-27 Thread news

 
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[19] News coming in spurts
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Due to completely avoidable problems the news will be coming in spurts and globs 
today. We can confirm that rumours about the RED NEWS Xmas party - which was to be 
held in a brewery - having to be cancelled due to inability to organise beer supply 
are absolutely and completely true.

Check back later for more.

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[18 ] Fabien sings - tie a red ribbon
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Fabien, along with plenty of french artists, has recorded a song for the campaign 
against AIDS.

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[17] Vialli starts coaching course
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
GIANLUCA VIALLI has begun a fast-track course at the FA to become a fully qualified 
Uefa coach. 

Maybe his successor could benefit from it more judging by the Rent Boys recent run of 
results.

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[16] Robbo to step down
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
El Tel has agreed to become Middlesbrough's new manager, with Robbo stepping down to 
be his assistant, as an official announcement is expected soon. Although Venables is 
understood to have accepted the offer some minor details need to be finalised. You 
better watch El Tel - he'll end up buying the club for a quid or something.

Robbo last worked with Venables during Euro 96. It represents something of a backward 
step for him but it gets Boro chairman Steve Gibson off the hook as he's been coming 
under pressure to sack Robbo.

One banner at Saturday's match read: "Robbo - You are the weakest link - Goodbye."

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[15] Keep up lads - Pa Madou Kah - its old hat
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Teamtalk are running the story about potential transfer target Pa Madou Kah. The same 
story we had as item [6] on Friday and originally covered on Saturday 11th November.

Now to be fair Teamtalk are usually pretty good and we don't mind admitting we get a 
few stories off them. Shame they never credit us for stories they get from us - even 
though they monitor our news several times a day.



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[14] Healy - Norwich no go  
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Norwich manager Bryan Hamilton has failed in a bid to sign David Healy. His attempts 
to land Healy in a temporary or permanent move have been knocked back by Fergie.

Hamilton: "I watched him in a reserve match last week and afterwards I spoke to Sir 
Alex Ferguson. He wants to keep Healy at least for the minute and anyway, the fee they 
would want if he did move is out of our range."

So why bother asking then you plonker?



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[13] Italian Moodies
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Fans smashed seats in the stands and hurled objects onto the field as violence marred 
Serie A matches in Reggio Calabria and Turin. The most serious disturbance occurred in 
Reggio Calabria, southern Italy,where the steady launch of objects and pieces of 
plastic seats from the stands forced referee PierLuigi Collina (El Slappo) to end the 
Reggina-Brescia match six minutes before the normal time.

Brescia were leading 3-0 and they expect to have their victory validated by the 
league. Reggina fans went loopy after a seventh consecutive defeat loomed. Maine Road 
next then?

In Turin, groups of Verona fans rioted at the end of the Juve match, which the Old 
Lady eventually won 2-1.They damaged stadium seats and other facilities and hurled 
objects at riot police. Six fans were arrested and 15 were taken into custody and 
released after being notified charges of resisting police and causing damage. Four 
policemen were slightly injured in scattered clashes.

Scenes soon to be repeated in Moss Side no doubt. And when city have finished rioting, 
GMP will clip a couple of them around the ear and say "don't do it again". They will 
then proceed to arrest a number of Reds for farting - in a totally unrelated incident.

You can't beat British justice though.

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[12] Statto extrapolation (not a sexual practice)
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by redend:
Well I suppose it could be, if you have false hands sticking out of your anorak 
sleeves, but...

If everything continues like this for the rest of the season (it won't)

We will have 91.20 points
We will have scored 98.80 goals
We will have conceded 25.33 goals
We will finish 20.28 points ahead of the next team

Mind you, let's not forget we've only played 39.47 percent of the season so far

(Smack - Ow)

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2000-11-27 Thread news

 
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[29] I wish
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
With reference earlier to the Red News organisation skills in the Xmas party front. 
Not being able to secure a beer in a brewery would be far more preferable considering 
I have to take my life in my hands at Anfield of all bloody places for my firms 
attempt at some festive cheer. And the day before the mickeys descend on OT too!

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[28] Monkey's heed speaks
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
As Reid reckons:

"They're the best about but I'm sure we'll give them a game. We were poor at Old 
Trafford this season, we didn't compete so we'll be up for it on Tuesday

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[27] Another Utd target?
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
Tottenham are the latest club to be linked with highly rated strike ace Neil Harris. 
Manchester United and Coventry City also had spies at Oldham at the weekend to watch 
Harris help The Lions to the top of the Second Division table.


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[26] Fergie on Mackem challenge
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
"It's a big challenge because they're going up to Wearside with 45,000 screaming 
Sunderland fans," 

"That should be good for them and I think they will enjoy it. It is a test of 
character in a way and it's a test of their temperament.

"That's what we're looking at in this situation and I think they'll do well."

Let's hope the result doesn't induce any more heart attacks





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[25] And the point you are making is?
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
As ITV execs are wetting themselves at the prospect of Wednesday's documentary on Posh 
and Becks exceeding the viewing figures for Utd's Champons League games or Match of 
the Day. Apparently they reckon it might get near the 15 million for 26/5/99. Two 
words - so what???

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[24] Black cat's eye view
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
According to Ready to go:

Quinn & Phillips are pencilled in to start along with Sorensen, Kilbane, Craddock, 
Thome, Arca, Williams & Rae, though one of the central defenders may be rested to the 
bench to give Varga a run out.

Paul Thirwell may come into contention along with John Oster as Don Hutchison is 
epxected to be rested due to a niggling injury he is carrying as is Chris Makin.

There will no place on the bench for McCann or Schwarz as Reidy will not risk these 
players still not a full fitness. Dichio & Reddy will be on the bench along with 
Peteers.


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[23] When the kids are United
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
As capt Phil Nev says:

"Lads that are on the fringes of Man United could walk into almost any other 
Premiership club, so it shows the quality of the managers first eleven and the quality 
of the players below,"

Expect to see some or all of the following in tomorrows line up:
Chadwick, O'Shea, Healy, Stewart, Danny Webber and Mark Lynch

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[22] Ted - One love
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
"You never get bored with it. Never get bored with winning at all, especially in 
London with all these Arsenal supporters and Chelsea and West Ham.

"I was estatic last year when we won it by 18 points and I'll be estatic this year if 
we win it by 24 points."

"Even if my lad wasn't playing for them and he went abroad or whatever, my first love 
would be Man United.

"I just want to win - I want to win everything, I just love it," he added. "Eight 
points clear at the moment - I wish it was 18, even now!"

Easy Ted, easy, don't want to upset Arsene Wenger do we?
oh we do, ok


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[21] Ted on Fab
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
"Even Fabien Barthez has come in as someone new and has slotted in, and the players 
absolutely love him."

As do we Ted, as do we

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[20] Father Ted speaks
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Posted Monday, November 27, 2000 by tb:
"With Manchester United there are no superstars, no matter what people say," 

"No matter what they've got and no matter what they do, they are all as one, that's 
the difference.

"And that is what is special about the club, the team, and the manager.

"I've got the utmost respect for him, for what he has done for my lad, and for what 
he's done for my family."

The feeling is mutual, as there can be no doubt that his dad has helped Becks keep on 
track when many would have cracked

"I watch a lot of football on TV and I look at games analyse them. You watch when a 
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2000-11-28 Thread news

 
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[19] Eidos announce massive losses
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
Computer Games company Eidos announced massive losses of £19 million for the last 
year.  Now who is it they sponsor again? 

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[18] Fortune on tonight
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Our confidence is so high, as we showed against Watford. We've got to win at 
Sunderland first, but I think we can go all the way. We've got young players here who 
are capable of doing a lot."
   
Incidentally, his SA countryman Gary Bailey gave an exclusive interview for Red News 
on what he's up to these days and his time at United - in the new issue of Red News, 
issue 73, out for sale at Old Trafford on Saturday!

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[17] Chadwick says 'Oi, Arsenal, NO!'
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
As Luke Chadwick turned down the Arse in 1995 to sign schoolboy terms for Utd: "In the 
end, both clubs offered me terms, but I thought Old Trafford was much friendlier and I 
headed north. I played in the junior leagues before being offered a four year contract 
last season - that was the best moment of my life." 

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[16] Likely team tonight
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
United Van der Gouw, Clegg, Johnsen, O'Shea, Phil Neville, Chadwick, Greening, 
Wallwork, Fortune, Solskjaer, Yorke.
   
If Greening does play tonight it will cost United a further payment of £100,000 to 
York for his 20th appearance for Utd and part of the financial deal for his old club. 
So far the deal has cost us £850,000.
Recouping may come in the way of Alex Notman who is set to sign for Norwich.

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[15] Lawrenson says league is over
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
Mark Lawrenson: "The rest of the Premiership might as well pack up and go home - the 
title race is over before the end of November. It is a sad day for English football, 
but Manchester United's eight point lead is an insurmountable lead at the top of the 
table"

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[14] Jim Smith speaks some sense
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
"United have everything. And the rest of us just have to face up to the fact - no 
matter how unpalatable it is - that Manchester United are just getting better and 
better all the time"

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[13] Latest share price
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
Up 1p at 241.

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[12] More from our sponsors
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
As Vodafone notched up half year profits of £1.82 billion - their Xmas gift to their 
staff is...a Mars Bumper chocolate stocking, costing £1.99!

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[11] Whore in Leeds
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
And not of the Sheep variety either. The whore tag was apparently the insult that Arse 
player Robert Pires threw at David O'Leary after the Leeds boss kept (why?) blowing 
kisses at Pires during the game and then afterwards in the tunnel area. Happy times on 
Sunday - the ABUs have started dividing and ruling, starting to hate each other - can 
we ask for anything more. A possible 3 match ban for Viera if a video of his actions 
in the game on Sunday find him guilty? Anything else?

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[10] Forward planning by Utd
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
Manchester United have booked 25 rooms at the most luxurious hotel in
Walesfor the weekend of the F.A Cup final, which will be played
at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium. (well, you've got to expect haven't you!). United 
have booked four days accomodation for their entire first team squad at the Vale of 
Glamorgan Golf and Country Club from May 9th to May 13th - including the scheduled 
date of the final on May 12th. The estimated cost for United's party will be around 
$15,000 for four days at the hotel complex, which is ten miles outside Cardiff. The 
hotel said: "It is not out policy to discuss who our guests are" as the ABUs will be 
up in anger once again what with all this current talk of domestic domination - when 
surely it makes sense with so few hotels around Cardiff and as you can do for a Euro 
away as a fan, you can always cancel if it doesn't come off. We've already heard Reds 
saying they plan to book hotels in Cardiff for that weekend on the same principle!

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[9] Slight mistake apparently
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
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2000-11-28 Thread news

 
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[25] Fergie - we haven't won the league I say
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
As we're made 1/12 on favourties for the league with the bookies, Fergie rightly tries 
to calm this nonsense talk down.

"I have heard a lot of stuff which has amazed me in the past few days. Yes, it's been 
a good weekend for us, but we  won't be getting distracted from what we have to do.  
We certainly won't be talking about winning the title until March or  April. If you 
are out in front then, it makes it more difficult for  teams to get back at you.  
There's a long way to go before we get there, the pride of our players will mean they 
stay focused. 

They have proved time and time again that they have the appetite for the battle. So, 
we'll just concentrate on what we're doing and let other people say what they like"

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[24] Bizarre: Mexican exorcists 
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by redend:
Exorcists in Mexico City are reporting a booming trade with one priest reporting a 
female client who growls like a dog and speaks in a man's voice. Rev Alberto Juarez 
said of one of his clients: "She began to speak in the very ugly voice of a man. It 
was frightening. I tried to hug her and she began to growl like a dog."

I think all of us lads have to hold our hands up and admit we are familiar with that 
one - picking up someone in a darkened nightclub and then getting a bit of a shock 
(spelling mistake?)? Come on - aren't we? ...Oh - just me then? .Anyway, 
take Crocodile Dundee's advice and always check the undercarriage before take-off - 
especially when in the vicinity of Canal Street.

Come to think of it though - there's a much simpler and far more evil explanation to 
the above Mexican tale. Its known in the trade as a female Scouser. Beware - there is 
no cure.


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[23] We're not Champions any more
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by redend:
Contrary to popular belief - (or should that be "unpopular" seeing as it came from ABU 
General Alan Green) we were not World Club Champions for only a matter of days. That 
Brazilian tournament went by a different name - not that I'm trying to get into a Mony 
Python - Life of Brian - People's Popular Front of Judea debate - or anything.

Anyway Boca Juniors have now taken our crown as World Club Champs - or the 
Intercontinental Cup or whatever it is - by beating Real Madrid 2 - 1 in Tokyo.

Wonder if the man of the match got a nice big key like Giggsy did last year. 

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[22] More from Captain Phil Neville
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
"It was my boyhood dream to lead out a Manchester United team. You look at others who 
have captained the club, like Bryan Robson,  Roy Keane, Steve Bruce and Eric Cantona, 
and it is unbelievable. I have always been known as one of the younger members of the 
team,  but at Watford I was playing with a lot of lads with less experience,  so I 
just tried to pass some of it on."

It will be a great experience for us. The young lads won't have played in front of 
that many people before but they have been brought up at this club knowing the 
expectations. We are taking reach round as it comes. We had a really tough game at  
Watford in the last round but performed really well. It's been four weeks since then 
and a lot of the lads haven't been  involved in the first team since then, so a lot of 
the lads are  treating these games like their cup finals.

Luke did brilliantly at Watford and so did Ronnie Wallwork -  and both have featured 
in the first team since. If we keep progressing in this competition and the lads keep  
impressing there will be more first-team opportunities for the lads." 


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[21] Phil Nev gets very excited - let's go for all 4 trophies!
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Posted Tuesday, November 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
"The Worthington Cup is not the highest of our priorities but we can still go out and 
perform well, as we did at Watford. I am sure all the lads who play tonight are 
desperate to win this competition - and so is the manager. The strength of our squad 
enables us to be going for every  competition we play in. In the past we have probably 
not been able to do that, but now the depth is so good we can go for every competition 
we play in.

The boss has made this competition one where he can blood some of the youngsters and 
it has paid dividends - we have gone on to win championships and the European Cup 
through the experience of playing in these kind of matches. But the lads who play 
tonight are desperate to win the Worthington  Cup - it is one trophy we haven't won 
recently."

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[20] Sunderland's viewpoint

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2000-11-29 Thread news

 
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[29] ITV tonight
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
The David Beckham Story at 8pm. Your guess is as good as ours to what it will be 
like...

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[28] Remember to post Villa applications today!
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Applications for Villa (A) on Boxing Day are due in  tomorrow. Details below:

Aston Villa v Manchester United
Villa Park, Tuesday 26th December, kick off 1pm.

We have received an allocation of approximately 2900 tickets of which 
2620 are priced £20 adults £10 under 16's/over 65's and 280 
(restricted view) are priced £18 adults £9 under 16's/over 65's. 
Postal applications are currently being accepted from Season Ticket 
Holders on production of voucher 30 (duly completed), letter of 
application, open cheque (made payable to MUFC), sae and the 
following 4 match vouchers properly affixed to this seasons token 
sheet: 31 (RSC Anderlecht) 32 (PSV Eindhoven) 33 (Dynamo Kiev) 34 
(Panathinaikos).

Private Box/Exec Suite and Club Class Members can apply by post in 
the usual manner quoting their facilities held.

All applications need to be received in the Ticket Office no later 
than 5 p.m. on Thursday 30th November. In the event of being 
oversubscribed a postal ballot will be held to determine the 
successful applicants.


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[27] Becks gets new boot deal
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Becks has signed a new £8million deal to wear adidas boots  for the next four years. 
Despite big interest from Nike, Nick Craggs, head of communications at adidas, 
revealed: "David  signed a new deal with us earlier this month.  It will work out to a 
significant seven-figure sum over the next  four years.  Along with superstars like 
Zinedine Zidane and Raul, David is a  global symbol of adidas. 

He wore our Predator boots for the first time four years ago, when 
Manchester United played away at Wimbledon.  It was the game in which he scored from 
the halfway line.  Unsurprisingly, he has stuck with us ever since.We are proud to 
provide David's boots because they are the 
tools of his trade - and he is a master craftsman."


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[26] More on Luke Chadwick
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
[26] More on Luke Chadwick 
Wednesday, November 29, 2000

Fergie: "Luke is coming on great. In his case his performances merit a break, he's 
starting to challenge and he's able to break into the first team." 

Chadwick himself: "Playing in Belgium has toughened me mentally and physically because 
first-team football does not allow you to make any mistakes. Howard Wilkinson picked 
me for England Under-21s although that experience was weird because the other players 
were all getting regular Premiership football. 

That is why my long-term objective is to play in United's first team. I can play on 
the right or left wing and I'm just looking forward to my opportunity." 

Fergie: "Believe me, the younger players are terrific and they will get their chance. 
Of course, they lack experience but they would be all right for normal League 
football. In the case of Luke he's less of a concern in that department. Anyway, there 
has not been anyone available on the transfer market for European matches. There are 
160 teams in Europe this season and they are not going to sell any of their players. 
Anyway, you will find most of them are cup-tied." 

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[25] Sad fact
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Kevin Phillips became the first Englishman to get a goal against United since  Chris 
Armstrong scored during Tottenham's 3-1 defeat at Old Trafford in the final game of 
last season. 

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[24] McClaren continues on for England
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Caretaker England coaches Peter Taylor and Steve McClaren have been confirmed by the 
FA as being in charge for the England's friendly with Spain on February 28.

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[23] OT loses out in Champions League Final
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Posted Wednesday, November 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Old Trafford has lost out in a third bid to host the Champions' 
League final as UEFA are set to award the 2003 showpiece to Moscow. 
United officials were optimistic over landing the Champions' League while  Wembley is 
out of action - after increased capcity lead to the 
stadium being upgraded on UEFA's criteria. 

Now UEFA look set to reward Moscow's rebuilt Luzhniki with the 2003 
final after the president of the Russian FA, Vyachslav Koloskov, held 
talks with UEFA chief Lennart Johansson. 


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[22] Transfer link?
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[24] Sammy Mac on Healy
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
Sammy McIlroy on David Healy: "I think the kid has got what it takes if Sir Alex 
chooses to use him. I think everyone knows that he has got the ability, especially Sir 
Alex who has followed his progress closely. David has done it at international level 
for me and if he can handle that, then he can handle the Premier League, especially if 
he will have all those great United players to help him.

During the Christmas programme you need a lot of players and hopefully he will be 
given his chance. He has been patient, worked hard and he certainly deserves it. 
Nothing fazes him. When I first told him he was going to be involved with the senior 
team he just took it in his stride. Other players would have been worried or nervous, 
but he just relished it.

He had waited for his opportunity and he took it. He's waited for his chance at 
Manchester United and if Sir Alex gives him his chance in these games he will take it."

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[23] Are you having a larf Stockport!
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
Stockport want to move to Maine Road when Manchester City leave and
could even change their name to Man-Stock County (no, you must be 'aving a larf). Sale 
Sharks rugby union club have already stated their interest in moving to Maine Road 
when City switch to the 48,000-seater Commonwealth Games stadium in Eastlands.
  
Stockport chairman Brendan Elwood has revealed he has had private talks with 
Manchester City Council chief executive Howard Bernstein. The council will become 
Maine Road's new owners when City move out in
2003. Elwood claims the First Division side's fans would support the six-mile move 
from Edgeley Park and he suggested the club could change their name to Man-Stock 
County.
   
"It's an attractive idea because, to be honest, with the crowds and
ground we have at Stockport we've been overachieving for the past few
years," reports the Manchester Evening News.
  
"We feel we would be the best possible leaseholders and could bring more to the Moss 
Side area than anyone else who might be interested in taking over Maine Road. When 
this possible move was first suggested the majority of the letters we received and 
comments on the internet were supportive. For those who see Edgeley Park as a sacred 
ground, I would reply there simply aren't enough pilgrims there. Name changes are 
possible and when we were founded in 1883 we were Heaton Norris Rovers. But I would 
want to keep some reference to Stockport in the name, Man-Stock County for instance."
  
City councillors meet on Monday to decide who should move in to Maine
Road.

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[22] Ideal gift ideas for Xmas. No.1
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
Idea xmas gifts No.1. 
A subscription to Red News.Costing just £15 in the UK, £22.50 for Europe, and £25 for 
ROW, you get 10 issues of Red News, the fanzine, sent to your door! Ideal for any Reds 
mates' present, we can post the latest issue as a present which will arrive on 
Christmas Eve.

Red News, P.O.Box 176, Manchester, M16 8LG

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[21] Next round of Youth Cup
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
United youth team will play Scunthorpe at home in the 4th round of the FA Youth Cup. 
Scunny beat Norwich in the last round.

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[20] More from Ronny Johnsen
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I strained the back of my knee a bit when I was about to  tackle Kevin Phillips.  I 
feared that it was serious injury at first,  but luckily it turned out to be a little 
strain...the youngsters did great and I guess we were more or less in  control until 
Yorke was sent off."

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[19] O'Leary blasts the Arse
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
He told The Mirror: "All you ever hear is sour grapes from them.  I just wish they 
could lose without it having to be someone else's fault.  They were beaten fair and 
square in a very competitive game. Simple as that." 

Now all we need is you to shut up about "my kids...this is a young side who you can't 
expect anything from" and we'll all be ok.


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[18] Houston, we have a problem
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Posted Thursday, November 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
The Premier League has scrapped the walkie-talkie devices worn by refs and linesmen. 
Philip Don, referees' officer, has conceded his innovation of putting match officials 
in radio contact has received a majority thumbs down from referees.

One senior referee said: "The walkie-talkie gear was too bulky and it was also hard to 
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[37] And Joe Royle said
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
On Ian Williams-Wright, can someone please explain from the Massive manager:

"Size doesn't matter and he doesn't think he's small. He's as big as anyone when he 
has the ball at his feet and he just loves playing. You're never too small, you're 
never too big if you're good enough."

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[36] More from David Gill
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
The PLC man said: "We have to be innovative in looking at how to reward loyalty and 
encourage people to want to stay at their club."

How about free season tickets for all of us who were there in the 70s and 80s then!

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[35] GMP won't like this
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Police in Greater Manchester top the national league table for 
complaints, according to an M.E.N. report. Independent figures show  974 official 
complaints were made against the force - significantly  higher than any other area of 
the country. And more individuals  claimed to have been assaulted by police in Greater 
Manchester last  year than in any other part of England. Merseyside had the second  
largest number of assault claims - 326. That's got to be a first -  that we get more 
claims in for anything than the Scousers. But then  again, no doubt there was a 
massive contribution from Moss Side.

...and they can't drive?

Police drivers in Greater Manchester have had almost as many crashes 
in a year as the force has cars - averaging more than three shunts 
every day.


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[34] New artwork unveiled at Old Trafford
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
A bronze plaque  depicting the treble win has been unveiled, and placed at the front 
of the Red Cafe - the MEN reports it  shows the three trophies in front of the Old 
Trafford stadium and was  inspired by a 14th century Greek image. 

Done by the artist who did the famous Eric painting as a Christ figure, the artist 
said: "It is a permanent celebration of the club's triumph  and reflects the 
achievements of Sir Alex so I was especially proud  that he could unveil the work."

the MEN continues: "His Renaissance-style portrait of Cantona is now  in an exhibition 
at the National Portrait Gallery. Cantona bought the  picture for his own collection 
but has loaned it to the National for  its exhibition, Painting The Century: 101 
Masterpieces." 

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[33] How the not so mighty fall
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Kenny Dalglish should surely appear in one of those 'where are they now' Virgin 
ads...where is he then?

He's just become a Director of Newcastle Jesters, a Super League ice hockey side. 
Exactly.

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[32] How times change
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Definitely the Parkinson interview and Wednesday night's show have started to change 
the attitude towards Becks from Mr and Mrs Lumpen out in ABU land. So the SUN today 
quickly follows it with their comment today: "So did you hear the one about David 
Beckham...he's actually a good bloke".

So why did you print a dartboard with his photo on it after France '98 then lads?

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[31] Well done Andy Cole
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Following on from his commendable work for orphans in Zimbabwe, Andrew Cole has turned 
his attentions closer to home ans given his support to an anti-racist campaign just 
launched where he appears in ad advert under the by-line: 'Would I score my goals if I 
was white'. Sponsored by the Commission for Racial Equality - it would be good to hope 
that the message gets through.

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[30] Get stuffed Master Bates
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
According to GMR this morning, Ken Bates admitted that he has enquired
about the availability of Andy Cole - and Keith Gillespie has signed for Bolton on 
loan.




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[29] Early team news
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Yorke cotninues to partner Teddy, with Phil Nev probably dropping out for Mickael 
Silvestre. 

United squad for the game

United (probable):- Barthez; Irwin, Gary Neville, Brown, Silvestre; 
Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs; Yorke, Sheringham. 

Subs (from):- van der Gouw, Phil Neville, Wallwork, Fortune, Healy, 
Greening, Solskjaer.  


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[28] Three starlets called up
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Posted Friday, December 1, 2000 by bar-knee:
Three of United's youngsters have been called into the England youth 
squad

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2000-12-02 Thread news

 
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[24] Guess who's whinging?
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
Yes the bandit is at it again, this time over the possible overuling of ref Gallagher 
doing nothing over the Viera studs, Dacourt face interaction last weekend. No doubt 
we'll get the blame!!!

"They will have changed the rules. People will be able to 
fight against everything - even goals. 

"If what has been seen by the referee is not accepted you can 
challenge everything. You can go to court every time the referee 
makes a decision. 

"The referee was well-positioned and he saw the incident. He also saw 
another one that the panel looked at involving Olivier Dacourt. I 
thought the panel was there to act for things the referee didn't see. 

"He did see them and the panel should not be involved." 



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[23] Quinton - I have to perform
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
As ex Spurs man Fortune says:

"It's very frustrating but you've got to remain patient as there are 
so many great players here at the club. When we play like we did 
against Panathinaikos, it's very hard to change the team. But it's up 
to me. I've got to perform," he told Manchester United Radio.

"That's the challenge I've got ahead of me now. I've got to prove to 
the Gaffer I can do it game in game out."



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[22] More sense from Denis
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
"It's far from over, we've got a tough schedule in front of us in 
December," Denis reminded us. "It's eight points, but if we draw a 
couple Arsenal and Liverpool would be right back in it. We've got to 
keep winning and put the pressure on the rest of them.

"We were level with Arsenal three games ago, so to make that ground 
over the last two or three weeks has been a massive boost.

"It doesn't take the pressure of, we still want to perform well. 
We've won a few in a row lately, which builds confidence. We've got a 
big match in Europe coming up, which won't be easy."

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[21] Fergie -  great vein of form
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
"The name of the game is to forget where we are at the moment and 
just concentrate on our own form, and our own form has been very 
good. 

"The players' confidence is very high and they've shown a great 
appetite. Team work is good and at this moment they're in a great 
vein of form." 


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[20] Fergie pays respect
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
"They've regained their form in the last few weeks, winning games 
against Liverpool and Leicester City at home," said Ferguson. 

"So we're expecting an interesting game against Tottenham. 

"The important thing is just to give each club you play against 
respect." 


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[19] More barber shop talk
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
A Colombian hairdresser claims he's found a cure for baldness that 
involves a cow licking the hairless scalps of his customers.

The barber from Pereira around 100 miles east of the capital Bogota 
uses a special tonic for the cow to massage into the pate with its 
tongue.

One of his customers said the treatment has made him feel more 
masculine and more attractive to women.

And before anyone asks, no I'm not going to try it. Not with all that BSE about. 
Anyway, would you trust a Columbian hairdresser!

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[18] Claudio still has some work to do
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
"There is a way of getting your point across. If you lower your voice 
then suddenly players become more attentive. 

I think you'll find that at Chelsea, waving wads of cash about is the only way of 
grabbing their attention!

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[17] You what?
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
As the Rent Boy's new pimp clearly has some work to do on the language front, unless 
the taxi driver's mate is doing the teaching?

"At the beginning Ray Wilkins was highly useful in translating my 
conversations to players. But now, with a few words of English, some 
Spanish and Italian, I am able to cope. 

"In the end Ray was doing nothing because I was conducting training. 
But I thank Rix in particular because towards the end he was doing 
nothing at all. 

That's not what that girl's father said!

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[16] West End Girls
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Posted Saturday, December 2, 2000 by tb:
Ranieri said: "There were certain weeks when there were more coaches 
than players. When there were a lot of players away on international 
duty, the coaches had enough time to do each other's hair!" 

Makes you wonder if he ever got introduced

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[24] Shareholders United Fans Forum Report - Part 2
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Posted Monday, December 4, 2000 by bar-knee:
But what irked MUFF members here was the excessive preference given 
to executive ticket-holders. We were told that 60% of away tickets 
are allocated to ST holders; 10% to players and sponsors; and a 
staggering 30% to executive seat holders, even though executive seats 
only account for 11 per cent of United's home support. In other words 
executive holders are many times more likely to be successful in the 
ballot for away tickets. When I pressed David Gill on why this was 
so, he argued that it was part of the agreement with executive ticket 
holders. When I pressed him further however, he admitted that the 30 
per cent figure was not contained din any contract with executive 
ticket holders. He also admitted that there was still a long waiting 
list for executive tickets at OT. I argued that this showed there was 
no need to confer such a privilege on executive ticket holders and 
that the away tickets they obtain are likely to be a prime source of 
black market tickets for united away games. 

Gill remained unmoved. The representative of executive ticket 
holders, Robert Burton, admitted there was an element them buying a 
better chance in the allocation of away tickets.

On the question of doing more to encourage young supporters, I argued 
MU should allow junior STs all over the ground, and also help people 
over 16 and students. Currently the only junior STs are about 1,100 
people in the Family Stand. 

Karl Evans said there was often a problem there with adults using 
junior STs and the turnstile operators were often under too much 
pressure that they didn't have time to stop them, so extending junior 
STs would only worsen this.

Peter Kenyon argued that whilst it might be true that many other PL 
clubs did a lot more for junior fans, most of these clubs did not 
achieve full capacity every match. To my astonishment the Disabled 
Supporters representative, Phil Downs, backed Kenyon up on this. I 
reiterated that getting young people into the habit of going to OT 
was all about long-term investment in the club. We could not be sure 
that United would remain successful and the OT would always be full.

Club officials revealed there are only 1,693 pensioners who get 
discounted STs, and the discount is just 10 per cent.

George Wewiora and Geoff Alsop both argued the club should be more 
flexible in filling the ground, and sell blocks of 500 seats to local 
schools at perhaps £1 a head. 
For United, Ken Ramsden argued it was often difficult for schools to 
get transport, and also that parents who had paid the normal price 
for tickets for their children for such matches would think this was 
unfair.

SU also raised the question of the early deadline for ST renewals, 
which was as early as 10 May in 1999, at a time when fans were 
spending huge sums on the FA Cup and European Cup finals. In 
contrast, I argued, fifteen years ago LMTB holders had until the end 
of June to renew their tickets. David Gill seem to acknowledge this 
problem and said that in both 1999 and 2000 United had needed an 
early deadline to carry out extensive relocations of ST and LMTB 
holders.

One of the most important discussions concerned the growing problem 
of hospitality companies offering packages to games at OT, for large 
sums of money, though the packages also include hotel accommodation 
and travel. Many regard this as legalised touting. SU raised the 
problem of recent letter sent by Barry Moorhouse to Old Trafford 
about the hospitality packages organised by a company run by Neville 
Neville. 

Moorhouse's letter suggested that if anybody was interested in 
Neville's packages and needed match tickets they should contact him. 
But at the MUFF, United officials insisted Moorhouse's letter had 
been badly worded and that MU would not supply tickets for these 
packages. However, after some pressing, officials admitted there were 
numerous companies whom United did supply with hospitality packages, 
and they also accepted there were many anomalies and problems. They 
are examining this whole area and hope to clear up unsatisfactory 
elements that had built up over the years. "We are not happy with 
certain areas," said David Gill. "We will rethink things for next 
season." Gill insisted however that MU "don't sell any away tickets 
to any hospitality company", though MUFF members queried why it was 
that away tickets were often offered by such operators.

John Wroe raised the problem of away clubs grading matches according 
to the quality of the opposition, which meant that United fans often 
paid more than fans of lesser clubs.
I said it was a "disgrace" that the directors' box had had 70 or 80 
empty seats at some recent matches, when the rest of the stadium was 
full. Peter Kenyon said there wasn't much they could do: directors' 
box tickets weren't 

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[7] Must be too many carrots
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
being eaten in Suffolk - as how else would you explain this press release from 
Ipswich. 

"Ipswich Town Football Club has sold its visitors allocation of 2,500 for
the match against Manchester United on Saturday 23rd December 2000.

The Club took the decision to take up 2,500 on a sale or return basis
rather than 6,000 on a non return basisIpswich Town Ticket Office manager, Bill 
Leggate:
"There is no doubt that a fixture at Manchester United would be create much
demand however the gap between 2,500 and 6,000 to great a risk for the club
financially. We apologise to any of our regular travelling supporters who
have missed out on this occasion."

Er, we never, ever offer 6,000 for a league match - we thinks there is the smell of 
porkie pies to this!

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[6] Youth Cup confirmation of date
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
United's FA Youth Cup fourth round tie with Scunthorpe will be
played on Tuesday 9 January 2001, kick off 7pm at Gigg Lane. Get it in the diary to 
see the next batch!

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[5] More ideal unofficial Utd Xmas presents
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
"A Seat in the Crowd"  by  Paul Windridge and Linda Harvey
- a great read about what it was like watching United from the terraces last season. 
Written by two Reds who were there from start to finish - this is what travelling 
around Britain to follow United, with all the costs, is really like. Not a prawn 
sandwich in site - check it out.


Order direct from:  (link:http://www.trafford.com/robots/00-0047.html) 
http://www.trafford.com/robots/00-0047.html
   
In the UK: From Waterstones Book Shop, Deansgate, Manchester
   and Sportspages, St Anns Square, Manchester

By post from:  MHI, PO Box82, Stretford, Manchester M32 8BX

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[4] More Nedved denials
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
This time from Sven Goran Eriksson. Nedved's boss at Lazio has said: "I don't know if 
it's true...it is very difficult to believe that Lazio will sell Nedved. I think he is 
not for sale as he is too good. It is a decision for owner Sergio Cragnotti but I have 
never heard of it or discussed it before". 

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[3] Wenger will take this on the chin
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
With his usual dignity and good grace! As Patrick Viera finally got the FA misconduct 
charge for his behaviour at Leeds. Expect us to get the blame!

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[2] Fergie and King win more awards
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Care of a special dinner held on (well, via a marquee) the pitch at Hampden Park on 
Sunday night. Law was named Greatest Ever Scotland Player, Greatest Ever Scotland 
Striker, Greatest Scotland Player of the 60s, alongside a place in the Greatest 
Scotland Team as Fergie won the gong for Greatest Ever Scottish manager.

Cue old joke. The gong for Greatest Ever Scottish goalkeeper. Well, went unclaimed of 
course!

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[1] Famous last words
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Could be Bryan Hamilton's fulsome praise of Alex Notman for Norwich. 

Hamilton said: "I thought he looked bright and sharp considering it was his first game 
and that the team overall played disappointingly. He just needed a bit more help out 
there". All well and good - but a few hours later Hamilton has resigned and poor sod 
Notman now has just signed for a manager that doesn't exist anymore.

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[35] Massive - City like - tits
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Posted Monday, December 4, 2000 by bar-knee:
In keeping with a city shirt sponsor - Eidos have been accused of a 
bit of massivitis themselves:

"Lara Croft's breasts seem to have got bigger - but it's just an 
illusion caused by improved technology. Eidos say the model Lara's based on - with 
statistics of 34D-24-35 -  hasn't changed, but they admit her breasts do look bigger. 
They also say that her bottom - along with the rest of her body - in  the Tomb Raider 
Chronicles is more defined because they are using  more advanced technology.

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[34] Scholes enjoying life
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Posted Monday, December 4, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I have enjoyed playing alongside Roy and Nicky. It's  been OK because we have been 
winning games - but for the big games  you will always miss players like Giggs and 
it's great to see him  back. We perhaps didn't miss him against the likes of Derby but 
when you  are playing the better teams in Europe, th

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[30] RED NEWS contact email back up
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by redend:
The feedback and news addresses have been down for a while - which we didn't realise. 
Wondered why you'd all been quiet the last week or so.

Anyway if you want to send general feedback then this is the address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

And for news stories and rumours etc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[29] El Til savages the FA
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Terry Venables in Match Of The Day Magazine: "By choosing to go to a foreign situation 
we've chosen to say we are not a power any more but we, the FA, will show you the way 
forward. Show you how clever we are because we are designer people now, we're not old 
farts any more.

If Hoddle and Keegan had done well, I'd celebrate like mad. I've nothing against him 
(Eriksson), he looks like a gentleman, I just find it difficult. Put it this way: I 
don't think it's a good idea.  It's like saying, 'We're in the war and we've got no 
generals. Well, what's Rommel doing? Is he available?' They're saying we want to 
cheat; we want to win, and to win we've got to get someone from outside." 

Nothing to do with sour grapes of course, from the man who, er, managed Australia!


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[28] Early team news for Graz
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Drinking news is it's very cold out there!

Ronnie Johnsen is still out with his knee problem but Giggs and Denis Irwin are 
expected to start.


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[27] More on mexes transfer talk
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From our French correspondent.

"United,Inter Milan and AS Roma are the new favourites to sign Mexès. The  three clubs 
have already started negotiations with Auxerre but the french  club wants £10m for the 
18 years old! His agent - Olivier Jouanneaux - said : "His decision will be guided by 
the  sporting challenge, he wants a club who plays the Champions league and a club  
with a friendly atmosphere. Philippe will take the final decision." 

Philippe  has always said (to Red News) that United is his dream club.
Nothing should happen before the summer."

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[26] Rumour control - Steve Bruce
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Brucey Bonus is set for the manager's job at Norwich (it'll be ok then Alex Notman!) 
after Bryan Hamilton resigned.

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[25] Dave Jones cleared of 4 out of 14 charges
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Press release:

"Former Southampton manager David Jones was today cleared of four of the 14 child 
abuse allegations against him. The jury in his trial at Liverpool Crown Court was told 
that one of the alleged victims in the case had declined to give evidence. 

Jones, 44, who played for Everton and also managed Stockport County, is alleged to 
have targeted vulnerable young boys during his time as a care worker at a residential 
school on Merseyside in the 1980s The jury in the case was later discharged from 
returning verdicts on the ten remaining charges after Judge David Clarke ruled that 
Jones could not receive a fair trial before them as they knew of the further 
allegations from the witness who would not now give evidence.

The hearing was adjourned until this afternoon."

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[24] Welcome back Mark Wilson
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Who will play his first match of the season for the Reserves tonight after  his 
cruciate ligament injuryagainst the Bitter Blues at Hyde United's ground. David May, 
Luke Chadwick, Danny Webber and Norwegian trialist Kah Pa-Modu will all play.

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[23] West Ham tickets to go on general sale
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Posted Tuesday, December 5, 2000 by bar-knee:
Manchester United v West Ham United, Old Trafford, Monday 1st January, kick off 8pm.

Approximately 5000 tickets remain and these will be on sale to the general public from 
the Ticket Office from 9.30 a.m. to 5 p.m. (subject to availability). Alternatively, 
supporters unable to apply in person can either telephone the MUFC Ticket Line on 
(0161) 868 8010 at the same times as stated OR forward a postal application, enclosing 
a letter of application/ members match ticket order form (whichever is applicable), 
sae, open cheque (made payable to MUFC), or credit/debit card details (please note an 
administration fee of 3% per transaction is charged).

Please note, the majority of tickets remaining are situated in North Stand 3rd Tier 
priced £21 or East Stand 2nd Tier priced £23. A half price facility is available to 
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[38] Berg set to return to Old Trafford
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Posted Wednesday, December 6, 2000 by bar-knee:
Blackburn Rovers boss Graeme Souness said: 

"We are still talking but, because of the transfer fee and the wages involved, I  
can't recommend to the board that we go ahead with that deal - it's just too  
expensive. It's still not dead but, at this moment in time, I've recommended that it  
would cost the club too much money.  There's still big money there for me to spend but 
I just feel this deal is  too risky for us.  Nobody is more desperate than me to see 
us get out of this league and I  won't be shy in spending money when I think it's 
right. But I just feel this isn't right for us. 

Henning has done very well for us and he's been everything we expected of  him, but 
we've got cover in that area in the likes of Christian Dailly,  Martin Taylor and 
Marlon Broomes."


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[37] He scores goals, Paul Scholes
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Posted Wednesday, December 6, 2000 by bar-knee:
Paul Scholes: "Our priority is definitely the league. We have opened up a good gap 
already, but we haven't had the really tough away games yet, and they'll all come in 
the second half of the season - we've got to travel to Middlesbrough, Sunderland, 
Spurs, Chelsea and Leeds.

They're all very difficult games, and I think we've had our easy games already and 
that's why we've got the lead. We know the league won't be easy and that's still our 
main aim. Obviously, we hope to go a long way in the Champions League too, and 
hopefully win it. But we've got a very difficult group, and we just want to get 
through to the quarter-finals to begin with.

The Liverpool match is a massive one for us and I'm really looking forward to playing 
in it. They're a very good team and they've only been let down by a couple of 
defensive errors recently. If they can cut them out then I think they could genuinely 
challenge us."

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[36] Well, it is the Daily Star!
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Posted Wednesday, December 6, 2000 by bar-knee:
Youngsters are set to start shaving their eyebrows after David Beckham was pictured 
with one of his trimmed. The Manchester United player may have started a new trend by 
nicking two stripes in his left eyebrow.

According to the Daily Star the marks may symbolise the two people most important in 
his life - wife Victoria and their son Brooklyn.

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[35] Teddy's final thoughts
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Posted Wednesday, December 6, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I said I wanted to stay at United because I wanted to fulfil my 
potential. "From an outsiders point of view when you see the whole team, the  whole 
squad being involved in European nights and winning the trophy  it is great from 
Manchester United's point of view.  But as a footballer you want to play more of a 
part - that is what I  was talking about in wanting to fulfil my potential, in 
playing,  being more involved, having a bigger part. 

I am not taking anything for  granted. I have to keep on top of my game and hopefully 
I will play a  bigger part and we can win some more things this year.  I have started 
the season well but it is just the fact that I am playing in the team... I wouldn't 
say we expect to win the Champions  League but the only way it would be a success this 
season is to win  it. That is the only aim we have got.  We don't expect to win it, 
but we want it" 

P.S. Remember that the game is Live on ITV tonight, coverage starts ay 7.30pm, kick 
off at 7.45pm.

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[34] More from the money men
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Posted Wednesday, December 6, 2000 by bar-knee:
Richard Pembroke, a partner in Deloitte and Touche  sport who compiled the rich list 
for Four Four Two soccer magazine said: "Manchester United have recruited a number of 
key personnel from the  business sector rather than football. "They have managed to 
sustain their success by striking a balance  between spending their money on players 
and ensuring financial  stability.

Their income is continuing to rise and with their on-field  performance being 
maintained and money from the new television deals  starting to come on stream, they 
have not yet reached the limit of  their achievements...

Four Four Two editor Michael Hann: "When Manchester United went 25 years without 
winning a league title,  they still sold out Old Trafford every week. We can snigger 
all we like about fans travelling up from Guildford  for every game. But they still do 
it, even if most of their home matches are quite  dull and predictable.

The club has such huge support that even if they started to become  less successful on 
the pitch, those supporters who decided not to go  any more would be replaced by 
others who have not been able to get in  the ground"


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[8] Team from last night
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
United: Barthez, Brown, Neville G, Silvestre, Irwin, (Neville P 90), Beckham, Butt 
(Giggs 80), Scholes, Keane, Sheringham, Yorke (Solskjaer 90) 

Subs not used: van der Gouw, O'Shea, Fortune, Greening (strange how many attackers?)
   
Bookings: Butt 58, 

Goals: Scholes  17, Giggs  89  
   
Attendance: 16,500
   

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[7] Alfie is a blue, he is so sad
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Extract from Manchester City skipper Alfie Inge Haaland's recent week: 

"This week I went to see AC/DC in concert, along with my friends  Egil Ostenstad, 
Stig-Inge Bjornebye and Veggard Heggem. It was a great gig,  and they played all their 
hit songs such as Back In Black and Highway To Hell  - the show went on for well over 
two hours. It was a real inspiration to see  the band, particularly Angus Young, 
running around like kids, with the sweat  pouring off them. It made me think that, if 
a bunch of middle-aged guys can  run around like that for two hours, we shouldn't have 
any problem, being in  our mid-20s, performing for 90 minutes! I'm into all kinds of 
music, not just  heavy metal, but AC/DC just have quality songs and I have to say that 
it was  one of the best concerts I've ever been to." 

And now we easily realise why he's such a hero to the Bitter Blue ranks - and why he 
hates Utd so. Mr Bean has more fun in a week.

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[6] Stop that pre-season, we want to get on board!
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
With Peter Kenyon set to announce our Far East tour dates later today marketing 
company IEC want us to include Australia as part of a pre-season tour. 

The marketing company's managing director Dominic Galati admitted  that he was in 
talks with the Premiership champions - and that an  arrangement would be mutually 
beneficial. 

"We are in negotiations with them, we're talking to them about 2001 
and 2002. We'd like them to come back, they had a great experience in  Australia with 
us previously, we treated them well. They loved  Australia, but it's more of a 
business proposition for them.  They set up a lot of stores in Asia and any tour is 
for two-fold  reasons - it's to promote their team and promote their stores." 

Soccer Australia chief executive David Woolley is worried after the aggro during the 
last tour.

"We went through some difficulties last time and we'd need to be sure 
that didn't happen next time. The public deserve better entertainment value then 
they've had in  the past and are very mindful of that. As far as the club were 
concerned it didn't create any animosity with the Australian soccer federation."

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[5] Kaiser waxes about Becks
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Franz Beckenbauer said: 

"David Beckham is  the most exciting, talented footballer in the world.  Beckham this 
year has been fantastic. If I had to pick a No1 player in the  world this year, a 
player who has dominated football, then it would have to be Beckham. 

All the great stars this year have had periods when they have had a break or  haven't 
been at their best. Zinadine Zidane and Rivaldo, for example, have  not been at their 
peak for the whole season. But Beckham has not faltered.  He is the man who all year 
has been very consistent and who can continue to  get better. I really like him. I 
like the way he passes the ball and the way  he shoots. It's fantastic. There is 
nobody in the world like him." 

Don't we know it.


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[4] Bowyer gobs off
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Lee Bowyer: "I think we can match United. We just have to keep our feet firmly on the 
ground and keep concentrating and trying our best," said Bowyer. But we're also 
growing up. We must be because we produced a good, mature performance against 
Lazio...We think we can beat near-enough anybody on our day as long as we all play 
well...We have so much will and determination to win and if we can beat Lazio in Rome 
then we can beat anybody."

Apart from Manchester United...

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[3] Graz response
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Graz coach Ivica Osim once again talking in circles.

"I think some of my players had too much respect for the Manchester United players. 
But my players gave everything in this game and it wouldn't be right for me to 
criticise any of them. I'm not that disappointed because I appreciate the quality of 
the Manchester United players and you can't compare my players with theirs."

Beckham "We always knew it would be a tough game but we're pleased with the result" 
this coming on German

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2000-12-07 Thread news

 
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[39] There's (NOT) only one Manchester United?
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Shock news - Manchester United didn't win the league last season - we 
finished nine points behind Glacis United. This is  another  Manchester United - the 
one in Gibraltar. Apparently the Glacis  United manager (Arse Wenker) claimed that 
there was no way they were  9 points worse than "Man U". "We were cheated - the 
Gibraltarian FA  gave them the league, no-one tries against them, they always get the  
easy draw, we had too many games..." (SMACK!)

To give credit to the other Manchester United, they've won the  Gibraltarian league 7 
times since 1975 and in 1974 they were so  overwhelmingly dominant that the reserves 
won the Cup. Maybe that's 
where Fergie got the idea from? And also conclusive proof that city 
are about as successful as a team playing in the Gibraltarian 
Reserves League

For a PLC which guards its "brand" so jealously it seems a bit  surprising they 
haven't got this covered by Trademarks and Copyrights  in Gibraltar like they have 
everywhere else from Stretford to  Shanghai. When they won't even let someone knock 
out a few unofficial  T-shirts with the club badge on. (Maybe there is a loophole and 
we  could reform a team called Manchester United FOOTBALL CLUB).

So presumably they don't know about it inside OT? Peter Draper in 
marketing will hit the roof. And as for Martin Edwards - maybe we'll 
see the veins bulging and his purple head throbbing in anger again. 
Allegedly a sight to behold - according to women around the globe.


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[40] About time too -  www.soccerdogs.co.uk 
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by redend:
what we've all been waiting for - now why didn't I think of that? www.soccerdogs.co.uk 
 - get a United coat for your dog. Obvious. Its a winner.

Maybe they do a dog coat version of the long UMBRO jackets - going cheap now that Nike 
are in the frame. The perfect Xmas gift - especially for someone who doesn't have a 
dog - or a life.

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[39] There's (not) only one United
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by redend:
Shock news - Manchester United didn't win the league last season - we finished nine 
points behind Glacis United. This is another Manchester United - the one in Gibraltar. 
Did the Glacis United manager ( Arse Wenker) claim that there was no way they were 9 
points worse than "Man U". "We were cheated - the Gibraltarian FA gave them the 
league, no-one tries against them, they always get the easy draw, we had too many 
games..." (SMACK!)

To give credit to the other Manchester United, they've won the Gibraltarian league 7 
times since 1975 and in 1974 they were so overwhelmingly dominant that the reserves 
won the Cup. Maybe that's where Fergie got the idea from? And also conclusive proof 
that city are about as successful as a team playing in the Gibraltarian Reserves League

For a PLC which guards its "brand" so jealously it seems a bit surprising they haven't 
got this covered by Trademarks and Copyrights in Gibraltar like they have everywhere 
else from Stretford to Shaghai. When they won't even let someone knock out a few 
unofficial T-shirts with the club badge on. (Maybe there is a loophole and we could 
reform a team called Manchester United FOOTBALL CLUB).

So presumably they don't know about it inside OT? Peter Draper in marketing will hit 
the roof. And as for Martin Edwards - maybe we'll see the veins bulging and his purple 
head throbbing in anger again. Allegedly a sight to behold - according to call girls 
around the globe.





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[38] Train and ticket news
-
Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
Train - 4,000 tickets still on general sale for West Ham at homeon New Years Day. 
Forget the hangover and get down on it!

Train news for Charlton (most trains taking 4-5 hours at the moment)...Virgin times 
(ie; pie in sky?) of the last two trains returning to Manchester. 6.45pm and 7.45pm. 
But judging by trains recently, get on the earliest one you can! And stock up on the 
beers!

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[37] More on new coach joining Utd
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Posted Thursday, December 7, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From earlier story in the news...more info.

Dave Bell has left his position as director of Bristol Rovers' Centre of Excellence to 
become assistant Football Development Officer at United. Bell said: "In a way I am 
sorry to leave because everyone at Rovers has been fantastic to me...My son is an 
apprentice at Rochdale and I have a daughter in Manchester. I've missed my family and 
it will be nice to be back with them again." Bell's job with United will include going 
into schools and arranging PR events involving the players. 

---

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2000-12-08 Thread news

 
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[27] Latest team news
-
Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Ryan Giggs are in contention for starting places...the game 
will be Dwight Yorke's last before he begins his three-match ban for his sending-off 
at Sunderland.

Charlton (from): Kiely, Kishishev, Konchesky, Rufus, Shields, Fish, Brown, Todd, 
Powell, Stuart, Kinsella, Parker, Jensen, Robinson, Johansson, Svensson, Bartlett, 
Salako, Pringle, Bagheri, Caig.

Man Utd (from): Barthez, van der Gouw, P Neville, Irwin, Silvestre, Brown, G Neville, 
Butt, Keane, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Greening, Fortune, Solskjaer, Sheringham, Yorke.

South African striker Shaun Bartlett could play for Charlton - against the team he 
used to support.

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[26] Shareholders United want Fergie as Chief
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Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Sir Alex Ferguson should be offered the post of Manchester United chairman when he 
retires as manager, according to Shareholders United.

Shareholders United spokesman Oliver Houston said: "Sir Alex Ferguson is regarded by 
the city as a financial asset and in terms of the club board, the club should not only 
think about him serving as a director. Many people see him as an ideal candidate for 
the chairmanship of the club board, the post held by Martin Edwards. We want to see 
him made a substantial offer and if he wants he should be given a post with some 
power."

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[25] More Pa talk
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Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Thanks very much to Lars for this...

"I have now spoken to Pa. He denies any deal, but is happy both with the stay and on 
his performance against city. He says both Mr Ferguson and rest of the coaching staff 
gave him praise after the week long trial. He has a 3 year old contract with 
Valerenga, and says:

"It´s up to the clubs to decide if it is going any further, but I doubt if anything 
will happen within the nearest future."

Asked what he will do IF he gets an offer from United, he said: - "I really don´t 
know. Right now I am concentrating on my studies and my contract with Valerenga."

Pa would´t comment on the Liverpool supporting rumour!

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[24] Stick to wearing naff clothes
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Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Barry Venison put together his UK team for ITV's On The Ball recently with errRoy 
Keane alongside David Beckham in midfield. Just which part of the UK are you from 
again Roy? Doh Barry!

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[23] Robbo not having any luck
-
Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Middlesboroughs Cameroon striker Joseph Desire-Job was ruled out through injury 
yesterday when a ball hit his foot in training.

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[22] Fergie - I will stay in some role at United
-
Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
Just announced on GMR - Fergie has confirmed that he is to stay on at
United after his "retirement". This will not be in a managerial coaching role and the 
exact details are not yet decided, but he is in negotiations with the club at the 
moment. Hopefully, they will listen
to his advice regarding his successor.

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[21] Aussie done for match fixing
-
Posted Friday, December 8, 2000 by bar-knee:
And none of the names have been changed for reasons of confidentiality - they are all 
just strange sounding in this case!

"An Australian footballer has been sentenced to five months in prison by a Singapore 
court following his conviction for match fixing.  Mirko "Miki" Jurilj wept as Judge 
Foo Chee Hock read the sentence.  The 27-year-old Sembawang Rangers star from Sydney 
was found guilty on three charges of accepting bribes from bookie Sivakumar Madasamy, 
who bet on two games in which Jurilj played. 

The judge allowed Jurilj's sentence to be deferred until December 29 after his family 
topped up his bail by another £8,000, bringing the total held by the court to £50,000. 
  Jurilj's lawyer said he may appeal. 

The judge said foreign players were meant to raise the standard of Singapore's soccer 
league, but Jurilj had "tarnished the image."  None of the three bets were successful 
and there was no evidence showing any matches had been influenced, so the defence 
argued that the league had not suffered.  German soccer player Lutz Pfannenstiel, 27, 
was charged separately. His sentencing is set for next Thursday.  The men, who played 
on separate Singapore district teams, are friends and roommates. Pfannenstiel was not 
in court.'

They didn't apparently catch the main criminal - Ivor Bigun (cue applause from 
audience over 100 who remember that joke the first time it came out).

--

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2000-12-09 Thread news

 
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[7] Fergie's cunning plan
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"I'm hoping for a farewell at Hampden. That won't be an albatross round my neck, 
though. It would be nice but it won't keep me awake at night.

"It doesn't matter where or what your last game is, you still look forward to it. I 
hope it's a European Cup final, an FA Cup final or a Premiership deciding match."


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[6] Fergie swipe at Edwards?
-
Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"When I said I was retiring, maybe it went over people's heads a bit. It was two years 
ago now, and that's a long time away. Then when it gets closer you start to prepare," 
he explained.

"I'm looking forward to watching games from the directors box. I hope to be active, 
and be part of what Peter has in mind."


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[5] Fegie - its a love thang
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"I love this club. I know I'm making the right decision about management but I want to 
stay in touch with the club, to feel I'm part of United. It's not a Matt Busby 
situation we're talking about, it's a modern day development in football.

"Sixteen years here is a hell of a term. I've dealt with contracts, player agents, the 
media, TV, it's a completely different ball-game now. It's pressure," he said.


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[4] Fergie on Future
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"Peter Kenyon has been talking to my son Jason. We all agree that my management career 
will come to an end after next season, but they have been talking about me staying on 
in some role that won't interfere with the football team," revealed the manager on 
Friday, admitting he'll stay away from whoever takes charge.

"I think that's very important. Nothing specific has been decided, but hopefully 
something will be announced in the next few weeks.

"I've always been close to the youth set-up, and I'm interested in the teams they're 
picking, but I'd never say to them, 'You should have done this or that'. I'm not going 
to start now," he pledged.


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[3] Dwight - not bothered if not scoring
-
Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
. "I've always said that my game is based on more than just scoring goals. I create a 
lot for my team-mates as well. There's always a contribution to the team, even if I'm 
not finding the net," he told BBC GMR. Dwight will play his last match before a 
three-match ban against Charlton tomorrow. 


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[2] Fab V Peter
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
It would appear that given the press haven't been able to slag Fab off, they are going 
for the 'greater than Peter' angle. Won't make good reading for Bozzie though.

Fabien Barthez is on course to set new standards with United, and could even outstrip 
the legendary Peter Schmeichel if his form continues. 

The French World Cup star chalked up his eleventh clean sheet of the season in 
Wednesday's Champions' League win over Sturm Graz in Austria, and is keeping pace with 
the best the great Dane came up with during his time at Old Trafford.
 
Schmeichel regularly hit the eleven shut-out mark at this stage, with his top 
performance coming in his first season at Old Trafford when he had kept 15 clean 
sheets by December 7. That came from 24 appearances, while to date Barthez has played 
in 21 games since his arrival from Monaco in the summer.
 
In Schmeichel's second campaign, when United won the first of five Premiership titles 
with the Dane in goal, he reached twelve clean sheets on December 12, but had to wait 
until January 1 the following season to get to that mark, then till January 22 in 
1995. 
In the seasons which followed, Schmeichel recorded twelve clean sheets by February 21, 
1996 ;January 1, 1997 ; December 15, 1998 ; and February 14 1999.
 
By comparison last season Mark Bosnich had a total of 12 clean sheets in the whole 
campaign with his last shut-out coming on April 15. 

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[1] Quinton avoids scousers
-
Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Quinton Fortune's call-up to the South Africa squad to face Liberia next weekend will 
mean he is missing when United entertain Liverpool. 
The winger is part of a 20-man squad named today for the World Cup Qualifier on 
December 16 - one day before United face Liverpool at Old Tafford. 
Unfortunately, Fortune will probably not make it back to Manchester in time for kick 
off on the Sunday, because it has been brought forward to it's usual lunchtime start 
of 12pm. 

Usual for whom, these midday kickoffs on a Sunday are still a nightmare



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2000-12-09 Thread news

 
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[15] News a bit thin
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Due to technical dificulties the news service has not been as it should today, ISP's 
up the spout etc. Hopefully catching up and will have reaction to 3-3 at the Valley 
later

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[14] Full time
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Charlton 3 - Utd 3

1 - 0 down, 3 - 1 up, finishes 3 - 3

More reaction later

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[13] West Ham/Villa/Everton ticket latest
-
Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Manchester United v West Ham United
Old Trafford, Monday 1st January, kick off 8pm.

Approximately 600 tickets remain (mainly singles) and these will be on sale
to the general public from the Ticket Office on Monday 11th December, 9
a.m. to 5 p.m. (subject to availability).

Alternatively, supporters unable to apply in person are advised to
telephone the MUFC Ticket Line on (0161) 868 8010 at the same time giving
details of their credit/debit card (please note, an administration fee of
3% per transaction is charged).

Due to the limited number of tickets available we regret that no more
postal applications are being accepted.

Manchester United v Aston Villa
Old Trafford, Saturday 20th January, kick off 3pm.

Applications are currently being accepted from Members. Applications should
include a completed match ticket order form, relevant payment and sae.
Ticket prices are as stated on the match ticket order form. In the event of
being oversubscribed a postal ballot will be held to determine the
successful applicants.

Furthermore, supporters should be mindful of the following point:

Access to the North Stand 2nd/3rd Tier and West/East Stand 2nd Tier
involves a substantial amount of climbing. Persons having difficulty with
climbing or
suffering from vertigo are advised accordingly.

THE NEXT PREMIER LEAGUE HOME GAME TO BE SOLD IS EVERTON, TO BE PLAYED ON
SATURDAY 3RD FEBRUARY, KICK OFF 3 P.M. AN ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING SELLING
ARRANGEMENTS FOR THIS GAME WILL BE MADE ON FRIDAY 22ND DECEMBER. 


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[12] Wombles shagged out
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
WIMBLEDON boss Terry Burton blames too much rampant sex for his 
team's awful showing at home. 

The Dons have won just one of nine League games at Selhurst Park this 
season. 

But they are much better playing away with six victories already. And 
Burton is convinced that is because they spend the night before home 
matches indulging in nookie that saps their strength. 

Nothing to do with wearing those overweight costumes then. What do you mean, John 
Hartsons' not wearing a costume!!


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[12] Chelsea Headhunters canned
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
No, not a West end recruitment firm on their Xmas party but those two hoolies, 
suckered in by Donal MacIntyre and his dodgy arm transfer. Both went down, one for 
seven years, one for six. Lets hope their 'team' follow suit

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[11] Kinsella praises Keano
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"Everything will revolve around Roy. He is the best midfielder in the 
League, if not Europe. 

"United have fabulous individual skills with players like Beckham, 
Giggs and Scholes but the way Roy plays lets them perform. 

"There is an aura about the fella. Everyone is up for it when he 
plays, not only the teams but the crowd as well. 

"He is the best defensive midfielder around but is there as support 
for attacks. He has given me more confidence at international level 
with a few choice words. 

"If you are not doing it he'll let you know - but the praise is there 
if you are working well, too. 

"You hear all this stuff about Roy but he is a quiet lad. He'll 
train, go back to his room and keep himself to himself. 

"If you need confirmation of how far you have developed as a player, 
it's coming up against the likes of Roy." 

Kinsella added: "I'll probably get a kick or two but that comes with 
the territory. Roy's a winner, like we all are. I won't say anything 
to him, just shake his hand, toss a coin and pick an end." 



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[10] Today's whinge from Wenger
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Getting a tad tedious isn't it!!

"We have to keep things under control, but aggression is part of 
Gilles Grimandi's game," said Wenger. "I think it would be a joke if 
UEFA decided to charge him for the incident. Gilles is a physical 
player, but he has to keep that aggression to himself.

"It is just a case of controlling himself in certain situations. "The 
players were down after the game but overall they should be proud of 
their performance. 

Proud eh, not the emotion I had in mind

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2000-12-09 Thread news

 
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[26] Shall I tell him or will you?
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
New scouse recruit Biscan from Kiev on his new 'home'


'I played against United twice for Dinamo and there is no question they are the best 
side I have seen,' he said through a translator. 'We are aiming for the same standard 
here at Liverpool, where we have many outstanding young players. 

'I had a choice of clubs because Barcelona, Juventus and Ajax all expressed an 
interest in me. But English football appealed to me most.' 

Barca, Amsterdam (we'll let him off Turin!)or Murkeydive - tricky choice you'll agree



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[25] Top 5 tonight
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Man Utd 17 40  
Arsenal 17 34 
Leicester   16 29 
Sunderland  17 29 
Liverpool   16 27 


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[24] I apologise!
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
I've often referred to the FA as a bit of a chimps tea party, but I realise I have 
much maligned our primate cousins. The following story proves that they are way above 
the evolutionary scale compared to Crozier & co

Stone-throwing baboons waited for three days at the side of a 
mountain road to take revenge on a driver who had killed one of their 
group.

The primates laid in wait and ambushed the driver on the same 
mountain road in southwest Saudi Arabia where the baboon had been run 
down earlier in the week.

After spotting the car responsible for the death, one of the apes 
screamed out a signal to the rest to attack, provoking the frenzied 
stone throwing.

Although the driver was able to escape, the apes broke the windshield 
of his car, reports Al-Riyadh.


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[23] Bates motel chain dashed
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
As Ken has his masterplan for the replacement for the worlds biggest toilet dashed by 
Crozier and co. How come it took them so long to realise what the rest of the world 
has been saying (well us anyway) for ages. 

Oops - forgot, this is the FA we're talking about

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[22] Bradford Away Apps
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Bradford City vs Manchester United
Valley Parade, Saturday 13th January, kick off 3pm.

We have received an allocation of approximately 3700 tickets priced £27 adults £20 
under 16's/over 65's. Postal application are now being accepted from Season Ticket 
Holders on production of voucher 32 (duly completed), letter of application, open 
cheque (made payable to MUFC), sae and the following 4 match vouchers properly affixed 
to this seasons token sheet: 31 (RSC Anderlecht) 32 (PSV Eindhoven) 33 (Dynamo Kiev) 
34 (Panthathinaikos).

Private Box/Exec Suite and Club Class Members can apply by post in the
usual manner quoting their facilities held.

All applications need to be received in the Ticket Office no later than 5 p.m. on 
Thursday 14th December. As we anticipate being oversubscribed a postal ballot will be 
held to determine the successful applicants.


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[21] Curbishley on 'Great game'
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
''For the first 35 minutes, I don't think Manchester United have been tested like 
that. We could have been 2-0 or 3-0 up. Then to get stung like that before half-time, 
I don't think many clubs would have come back. United could have gone even further in 
front but we clawed our way back into it. It was a great game, great entertainment and 
a fair result.'' 


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[20] Fergie on Giggsy & Ole
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Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
"Giggs was a real handful for them, they couldn't handle him. His vision for the 
second goal was marvellous. I didn't expect that, I don't think anyone did,'' added 
Ferguson. "It was unbelievable but the follow-up by Solskjaer was equally tremendous 
as he was probably the only player on the pitch who thought that ball was going to 
come back out."

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[19] What planet are you on?
-
Posted Saturday, December 9, 2000 by tb:
Well, it's certainly hyped more than it's ever been.


PLANETFOOTBALL.COM users have spoken: football is better now than it 
ever has been.

An overwhelming 55% of voters said that football is now being played 
at a higher standard than at any time in the past - and it's stars 
Zindine Zidane, Ronaldo and Luis Figo are as good as anything in the 
sport's glittering history. 

Only thing I'll accept is that they are fitter than ever, but on a par with Pele, 
Georgie Boy and Cruyff (Johan that is!)- my arse

This vote of confidence for today's players comes on the back of Mark 
Lawrenson's comments that the English top-flight is at it's worst 

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2000-12-10 Thread news

 
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[12] Ex Boro boss has swipe at Robbo
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
"Bryan cannot stay at Middlesbrough.

"No matter what Terry does, Bryan will be affected.

"If Terry gets them relegated, Bryan has got to leave.

"If Terry keeps them in the division, are they going to give the job back to Bryan?

"I wouldn't have moved aside to be someone's number two, as he has.

"But then, if I was Bryan, I would have left in the summer, when I was a success."



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[11] So that explains it
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
Why despite all the losses, MUTV continues to struggle along, as Kenyon says:

Asked whether live Manchester United games on MUTV and the internet are his ultimate 
goal, Kenyon pauses before replying: "I think that would be very beneficial to us." 
And what would the potential be? "Significant."

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[10] A voice of sanity?
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
As Saints Chairman Robert Lowe says:

If technology has moved on and clubs are developing their own websites and television 
channels, it has to be done with a great deal of foresight," says Lowe. "If they have 
the product and the means of distribution, the clubs will be less keen to subscribe to 
the league.

"We can't predict the future but in three and half years' time some clubs may decide 
that they are bigger than the league and may choose to paddle their own canoe."

The big unknown is whether technological advances will arrive before the next Premier 
League TV deal in three years' time. If so, the collective principle could come under 
severe strain.



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[9] Fantasy world
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
Sorry, but I can't help thinking of the Jetsons when I read all this!

The big question is what happens when the technology arrives in the next fewyears that 
will allow instantaneous internet access and TV-qualitybroadcasts across multiple 
platforms - the much-heralded 'convergence' of digital TV, the internet and mobile 
devices.

"That then becomes Manchester United Media," says Kenyon. "You are then in control of 
your content and in delivering it to your supporters wherever they are in the world 
and by whatever means."


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[8] No world domination says Kenyon
-
Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
Whilst stroking his white cat:

Kenyon is insistent that United's global ambitions will not threaten their 
relationship with the Premier League and the principle of collective negotiation which 
underpins it. "The idea that Man United is going to grab everything on its own is a 
myth because we'd have no one to play," he says. "We want to operate in a healthy 
league."

Signifantly, however, Kenyon rejects the idea of a collective deal for the Premier 
League's internet rights along the lines of the Nationwide League's £65 million 
contract with cable company NTL or the Bundesliga's arrangement with the leading 
German clubs. "I don't believe that people have a real affinity with the Premier 
League as a brand. They do with the brands that make up the Premier League."

It's that B word again



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[7] More on Internet deal
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
Don't say we didn't tell you!

No doubt the hand of BSkyb will be behind this. Remember how cheap Sky Sports was in 
the beginning?

Kenyon says:

We fundamentally believe that before we start monetising our customers and fans that 
we need to build a relationship," he insists. "Too many people just want to make a 
quick buck.

"Our play is that there is a real connection with our supporters and once that's 
developed, then we know people will buy in and dig deep into a whole series of 
propositions that are unique or value for money. So this will be a money-making 
opportunity - it's just that you don't have to do it today and you shouldn't do it 
unless the proposition is absolutely right. You've no need to rip people off. That's 
the key message."


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[6] You do surprise us!
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
As Rio 'how much' Ferdinand gets a traditional sheep welcome.

Rio Ferdinand is at the centre of a race hate campaign that threatens to undermine 
Leeds' attempts to sign future stars. 


Ferdinand who became the world's most expensive defender when he signed for £18m two 
weeks ago has already received racist mail from fans purporting to follow the club. 


He said: "I have had a few letters since the transfer. Some have been nice, but I 
don't want to go into the others." 


Ferdinand claims he has also been targeted by unhappy fans of his former club West 
Ham. 

Again, no surpr

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2000-12-10 Thread news

 
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[21]  FA 3rd round draw highlights
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
Fulham V Utd
Sheep V Barnsley
Barcodes V Villa
Carlisle V The Arse
Rent Boys V Peterborough or Oldham
Massive V Birmingham
Scouse V Rotherham

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[20] Transfer compromise?
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
EU leaders yesterday granted a stay of execution to professional football's transfer 
system, backing Brussels' efforts to work out a compromise with the sport's 
authorities.

But they warned that any agreement must comply with community law.
The British delegation, which has campaigned against radical changes to a system that, 
says the European commission, flagrantly contravenes EU laws on fair competition and 
the free movement of labour, said it was satisfied with the declaration in Nice "on 
the specific characteristics of sport".

"Clubs must be able to rely on a system that gives them sufficient
opportunity to train young players, build up their teams and keep the game healthy at 
all levels," the leaders said, adding that they hoped the commission would be 
sympathetic to the special needs of professional football.



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[19] FA & cockup part 386621
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
The new Wembley will have thousands fewer seats than planned because of the Football 
Association's decision to build a far cheaper, scaled-down stadium.
 
The capacity of the stadium will shrink from 90,000 to about 85,000 as part of the 
FA's drive to slash around £100million from the overall £660m cost. 

Thousands of fans will now forever miss out on England games and FA Cup Finals at 
Wembley because of the disastrous bungling which has blighted every stage of the 
planned transformation of the national stadium. 


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[18] Keano injury?
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
As yet unconfirmed reports have Roy with a back injury, which caused his subtsitution 
yesterday

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[17] Curbishley on Giggsy effort
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
"The higher and the further the ball went, the worse it got," he explained. 

As the ball bounced back off the crossbar, Curbishley was right in the line of Ole 
Gunnar Solskjaer's clinical follow-up. "To be honest, even we were sitting there 
thinking: 'what a fantastic effort, what a fantastic finish'." 


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[16] So that's what Ryan was up to
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
United are to offer fans the chance to win £2,000 on match days at Old Trafford if 
they can score from the halfway line like David Beckham. 
The new challenge will kick off in time for next Sunday's visit of Liverpool, and will 
entail contestants lining up the ball from 58 yards and attempting to "do a Beckham" 
in return for the cash prize. 


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[15] Jaap looks forward to return with Wes
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
"As I near a return from my Achilles tendon operation - in the next fortnight I should 
be training with the squad again - we appear to be perfectly poised for another 
assault on the major trophies. 
"In particular I am looking forward to playing with Wes Brown. We teamed up in central 
defence before he suffered his cruciate ligament injury in the summer of 1999 and I 
felt we formed a fairly formidable partnership.
 
"Wes had done well to make a full recovery from what is a major operation, and now he 
is playing every week he is looking fantastic again. As a centre-half I believe he has 
all the necessary qualities. He is strong in the air, quick on the ground, agile, cool 
and confident. His ability on the ball makes him the perfect all-rounder.
 
"In many respects Wes is a very similar player to myself and, at only 21, he has many 
good years ahead of him. Some of them, I would like to think, could be as my defensive 
partner. I am quite sure we would work well together, although whether we get the 
chance rather depends on the manager." 

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[14] 1-0 to the tractor boys
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
As the scousers warm up for next Sunday by losing at home to Ipswich

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[13] FA Cup draw later
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Posted Sunday, December 10, 2000 by tb:
3rd round draw higlights as they are drawn at 5:45pm



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2000-12-11 Thread news

 
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[31] Al Fayed gets all excited
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
Over our Cup tie. "The Manchester United tie is just wonderful for us and we have a 
realistic chance of beating them".

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[30] Shirley Temple speaks
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
Well, Ray Parlour - spot the difference?

"We can't worry about Manchester United, although them drawing at Charlton is a huge 
bonus for us. It's just six points now which is nothing. We've still got to go to Old 
Trafford and hopefully they've got their sticky patch still to come".

Well I for one would settle for a 'nothing' leaf of 6 points come the end of the 
season!

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[29] Fergie-BBC row over
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
After the BBC have agreed to print an apology in Match of the Day magazine and pay 
Fergie damages it all seems settled now as he appeared on Grandstand and MOTD on 
Saturday - he only coudln't make the Sports Personality of the Year do last night 
(where he apparently would have presented an award) because of a funeral he was 
attending.

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[28] Opta Stats from Saturday
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
Charlton-United

Yellow cards 1-1
Corners 8-7
Offsides 6-0
Fouls conceded 4-11
Goal attempts 14-20 (as ever, the highest in the Premiership)



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[27] Quotes from the Theatre of Comedy on Saturday...
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
And Joe Royle said of Goater: "There is nobody more popular at this club", then 
adding: "I was inundated with letters telling me to replace him last season" Well, 
which is it then!

"Shaun has got it" Er, what exactly and...

Walter Smith: "I've not suffered a worse defeat than this before" - as much about the 
winning team we suspect as the scoreline!

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[26] Move over Bush and Gore
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From MEN: "Gorton born midfielder Nicky Butt has accepted an invitation  from the 
>East Manchester and District branch to become their new President."

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[25] Fergie has pop at Wenger
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
Well done Fergie!

"Arsene says many things. Do teams raise themselves against us? Not according to other 
people. Anything can happen in the Premiership. There has been a lot of nonsense 
spoken recently."

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[24] Shaun Bartlett on Saturday
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
"We should have scored more in our opening burst. I was unlucky with the first one 
that hit the post. We wanted to get at United straight away. We tried to contain them 
and get on the counter. They were surprised...this was a big day for me. I have been a 
United fan since I was a small boy in South Africa"

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[23] City prepare for massive League Cup night
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
Peter Barnes - ex Blue and Red: "A win against Ipswich would give City a tremendous  
opportunity of reaching the final.  Of the sides who are left in the competition, 
Liverpool are  obviously the favourites and Sunderland are dangerous side on their  
day, but this is a great chance. It would be a wonderful occasion for the fans to have 
a  day out at the National Stadium in February and I think it would also  be welcomed 
by the players!

Then of course, there is all the added financial bonuses that would 
come from a Cup victory, not to mention a place in Europe."

Er, what's that about running before you can walk - we'll just wait and see shall we 
Massives!

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[22] Yet more from Fergie on Charlton
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
"In the context of a season there is  always going to be a game where you have to 
battle and scrap to get  something from it. After 20 minutes we would have been 
delighted with  a point so we are sitting here and we've still got a point and have  
taken something from the game which we are not unhappy about.

During the course of a season you look back and there are moments 
when you say we threw that away or we were lucky. Today it was a bit  of both.In 
fairness Charlton kept going and they were a real handful in  terms of penalty box 
play".

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[21] Fulham game (as expected) live on SKY
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Posted Monday, December 11, 2000 by bar-knee:
On Sunday 7th January 2001.

The day after the Editor of Red News' 30th birthday. Oh dear.

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2000-12-12 Thread news

 
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[29] Weah still suffering post-City trauma disorder
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
After creating both goals in Marseilles weekend 2-0 win, George Weah had a go at coach 
Javier Clemente's tactics. "I gave two decisive passes, but don't get any chances. It 
is difficult to play alone, but I don't get any choice. For me, I can't go on like 
that - I can't play that way." 

George, George - you've got to realise - people never get over their Maine Road 
experience.

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[28] More United art
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From 'Midas' soccer

"Manchester United star David Beckham and his popstar wife Victoria  have been 
immortalised in a Scots painter's work of art, the wedding  painting by Glasgow artist 
Sue Biazotti could tempt the shopaholic  couple to splash out again.  The portrait, 
titled 'From the Heart,' shows Spice Girl Victoria in  her £60,000 wedding dress, with 
her football star husband standing by  in his £15,000 ivory suit. 

Sue said: "I think it shows amidst all the chaos and hype, they  really love each 
other. It was a special moment for them and you can  see this."  Sue has sent slides 
of the painting to Becks at Manchester United's  Carrington training ground."

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[27] FIFA farce
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
Thanks to RN reader Lee for this...

"Paulo Wanchope is the FIFA designated 21st best player in the world. It's true. Some 
muppet voted him as their No1 choice, which gives him 
5 points, placing him above Cole & Keano who each received a single  point as 
someone's 3rd choice.

Following on from the Maradonna/Pele fiasco, and Holland's vote as 
Team of the Year, surely this just goes to prove what a bag of bollocks these  Awards 
ceremonies are. (I mean, we all know how reluctant the BBC were to  give United their 
Team of the Year even after the Treble.)

However, this has not discouraged one of the sadder Massives in my  office from 
parading round with a print-out, telling everyone and even saying  that he's going to 
get it framed. Their sadness truly knows no bounds."

Spot on mate!

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[26] You should have given him a spoon instead...
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
A mayor's £200,000 chain of office fell to pieces after the  official met metal-bender 
Uri Geller, according to press reports.  Liverpool Lord Mayor Eddie Clein was 
introduced to Geller at a civic  dinner and within minutes the valuable chain had 
dropped to bits. 

The pair were at an event in Manchester to celebrate the 50th  anniversary of the 
Jewish Telegraph.  Mr Clein told the The Daily Star: "I leant forward and felt the 
chain  twitch and rattle. Six solid gold rivets holding the pendants of 365  diamonds 
fell apart.   I never believed all that Uri Geller stuff -  perhaps now I should." 

Geller said: "I just heard a shriek from the other side of the room." 

No that was just Reds realising there was a Mickey in our amidsts!

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[25] It just had to be in Yorkshire...
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
"A sheep farmer who knows the names of his entire 600-strong flock has been named wool 
producer of the decade. Brian T recognises every one of his sheep, although he still 
has to round them up because they don't return the compliment by running after him 
when called.

His phenomenal memory means he remembers the names of each sheep's mother and 
grandmother as well. Altogether, he has records of 30,000 sheep on file.Mr T and his 
wife Dorothy have run the farm in the Yorkshire Dales since 1974.

Mr T believes his knowledge of each sheep's ancestry and likely health problems makes 
it easier to isolate and contain outbreaks of diseases. His diligence has been 
rewarded with the title of wool producer of the decade, which has been awarded by the 
British Wool Marketing Board.

Mrs T says: "It was a struggle finding 600 names. It's very nice to win the award 
because he is out working in all weathers. It's very much a credit to him."

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[24] Ipswich ticket problems caused by tractor shortage?
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
Ipswich Town Chairman, David Sheepshanks issued the following statement regarding 
tickets for the Manchester United v Ipswich Town fixture on Saturday 23rd December:-

"Owing to the misunderstanding between ourselves and Manchester United it transpires 
that we only have 2477 tickets for the match when we could have had 3034. We 
understood their offer to be 2477 tickets on a sale or return basis and a further 3034 
tickets non-refundable. Based on an average number of travelling fans of 2100 and 
bea

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2000-12-13 Thread news

 
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[31] Doh - it's not big but massive
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Dunfermline have signed midfielder Gary Mason from Manchester City on a free transfer.

Pars manager Jimmy Calderwood said of Mason: "He's had experience of a big, big club 
and little Barry Nicholson was also at a big, big club, an even bigger one. It's never 
easy leaving a big club but he wasn't getting a game and he wanted to play football. 
Barry hasn't missed a game for us and has gained a lot of experience so hopefully Gary 
will do the same."

Surely he must have tongue firmly in cheek with his 'big club' mentions in one 
sentence alone - but got it mixed up. Big...massive...easy mistake to make!

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[30] More FIFA player award handbags
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Luis Figo has gone into one over Zidane's win at the FIFA do.

"Perhaps it should be renamed 'best player in the European Championship. I don't 
understand it because the tournament only lasted a month, and besides, the European 
Championship was won by 22 players - not just one man. I would have liked to have won 
this award and to have dedicated it to all of my companions and the supporters of 
Barcelona, Real Madrid and the national team - especially to all of the Portuguese who 
would have been proud if I had been first in the vote. I would have voted for Figo. I 
don't feel superior or inferior to others, but if I don't defend myself, what am I 
going to do?"

When he says he'd have voted for Figo - isn't that saying he'd - er - vote for 
himself. Well who else?


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[29] Strachan on his Utd days
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From the Indy

On Fergie

"He is the best sports psychologist in the world. He tests people when they are 
younger, and weeds out the weak-minded. You can be technically and physically OK, but 
if you're weak-minded you go. That's his philosophy. At Aberdeen he made my life a 
misery on many occasions, and I had to get over that...

He remembers the day Fergie became his boss again after Fatko got the sack

"Aye. The fifth of November, 1986. I knew he'd be up for it, because he'd already told 
me that he would only leave Aberdeen for Barcelona or Man Utd. So I was hoping the 
Barcelona coach would get the sack. I didnae want the same manager again. I wanted to 
be motivated by new people. But at the same time I was one of the very few who 
publicly backed Fergie when things weren't going right in those first few years. I 
said 'give him more time, he'll get it done.' People forget that.

"I made sure I didnae socialise with Robbo. I couldnae handle it. I did have a session 
with him once." Where was that? "I cannae remember. But I loved their company, they 
were great lads. I used to drive home from training along the M56, and there was a 
left turn for Wilmslow, where I lived, and a right turn for Hale, where they lived. I 
used to say that it was left for under three pints a night, and right for more than 
10."


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[28] UEFA - we must change formats
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Gerhard Aigner, director general of European football's governing body Uefa, said: "We 
aren't going to immediately reform the Champions League or the Uefa Cup but must 
consider it at some time. I'm convinced the Champions League is too long and the 
fixture list is saturated. We don't want people to get bored and it's important the 
competitions are interesting."

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[27] More massive news
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From our RN columnist Farrell, Born & Bred

"They can't get to Europe cos of localised floods..."

"They have games called off 'cos they don't like the rain..."

Cos City are a Massive Club

Sure you've probably had a few like this already but could you Imagine the amount of 
stick we'd get if it happened at Old Trafford? Best story I've heard is a group of 
City fans tore up there stubbs to make confetti to throw in the air - did so and now 
have to pay again to watch the match when it's replayed!!! But how can they tear up 
their stubs? Why don't they need them for future match ticket Applications? Massive"

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[26] Reserve match changed
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Manchester United Reserves home game against Everton has been postponed due to a, wait 
for it, waterlogged pitch. The original game for Thursday 14 December at Gigg Lane, 
has been put back to 11 January 2001, the next reserve match in fact.

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[25] Fergie - Ole will start on Sunday
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 

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2000-12-14 Thread news

 
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[28] Not the Midas Touch
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
With rumours rife that David 'drop the ball' James may be seeking a transfer you have 
to say Shotgun works his magic again - surely the worst man manager in the history of 
the  game? Who hasn't he pissed off, destroyed or lost? Dwight, Collymore,  Ehiogu, 
Southgate, James - basically all Villa's best players!

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[27] Fab to definitely play on Sunday
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From French correspondent: "Fab will definitely play on sunday. He  hurt his back in 
>training last week, exactly where he had a problem two months ago but he will play."


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[26] IMUSA Committee Meeting tonight
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
IMUSA Committee Meeting Tonight - Thursday 14-12-2000- 8pm (ish)
There is an IMUSA Meeting tonight - open to all members - join on the 
door.

Usual Venue: Upstairs at O'Briens pub - next to Stretford Arndale.

New members and new ideas welcome. Do not be shy.

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[25] Fulham away Cup details - great news!
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
Here's the brief run down.
 
5500 allocation
 
500 seated @ £18 and £8 (for under 16 /over 65)
5000 standing (hurrah) @ £13 & £6
 
Voucher No 58, but no voucher sheet required. Important notice that you should specify 
in application that Standing is acceptable (yes this is a Utd message) as there are a 
Ltd number of seats, blah, blah.
 
Applications should be in by COB Thursday 21/12/00.

Exact details from Utd to follow.

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[24] Such loyalty!
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
Geordie player, Domi.

You must have been impressed by the Newcastle fans?

"Totally. They are fantastic. They always wear the club shirt! They are the best fans 
in England!"

Does that mean that you want a transfer?

"For the moment, I am a Newcastle United player. But I wouldn't rule out leaving. 
Anything is possible. Last summer I had offers from Liverpool and Valencia, but I 
didn't want to go there. If an interesting challenge presented itself, I would be 
ready to go."

But what about the best fans in England?

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[23] Fergie has to suffer
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
By going to view Liverpool last night at Anfield to give them the once over before our 
game. (cue joke about finding nothing left of his car when leaving...).

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[22] Whose side are the FA on?
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From Zoomsoccer 
 
"The Football Association have made  the unprecedented move of asking Charlton 
Athletic to increase the  price of tickets for a forthcoming match.  The football 
governing body have instructed the Premiership club to  raise prices of tickets for 
their FA Cup third-round tie against non- league side Dagenham and Redbridge at The 
Valley next January. 

The FA were responding to complaints by the Conference side that 
Charlton, in keeping with club policy concerning one-off games, had  reduced the 
prices to £10 and £5 for adult and child tickets when  Dagenham had specifically asked 
the Addicks to keep them at £15 and  £8 respectively. 

But despite receiving support from the FA in their request for higher  ticket prices, 
Dagenham and Redbridge official Steve Thompson fears  his side may not be able to 
fully exploit the money-spinning  potential of the Cup clash as Charlton have refused 
to increase the  3,000 tickets allotted to the amateur club for the match. 

"Charlton have to give us a minimum of 15% and that is exactly what 
they have done. They claim segregation problems mean they cannot 
increase our allocation," explained Thompson." 
 

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[21] World Cup hooligan nonsense
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
Mirror today reports that 1,000 'English soccer hooligans' will be banned from 
travelling to the World Cup in Japan and Korea with passport confiscations, etc, etc.

Just a few thoughts on this:

a) England might not qualify anyway

b) Nobody is going to contemplate travelling thousands of miles at ridiculous 
travelling fares to kick it off are they!

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[20] Transfer target joins new club
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Posted Thursday, December 14, 2000 by bar-knee:
Verona have signed alleged Utd target George Georgiu, who is leaving Greek Second 
Division side Elefsina to head to Verona, as Italian papers suggest we offered the 15 
year old trails at OT.


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[19] Early team news

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2000-12-15 Thread news

 
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[37] Keano sets prawn record straight - it was aimed at 'most of crowd'
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Because I mentioned prawn sandwiches a lot of people assumed I was just getting at 
the executive fans, but that wasn't actually the case. My anger was aimed at most of 
the crowd, to be honest. I think the fans in general probably agreed with me. I was 
talking to a few punters at our next game after Kiev against Middlesbrough and they 
were fine with me.

I don't have one regret about what I said. Actually my only regret is that people keep 
bloody mentioning it to me! I'll probably have it written on my gravestone."

It's crazy really because it's nothing to do with money. It doesn't matter if I earn 
£100 a week, or this figure people reckon I'm supposed to be getting. It's about 
getting behind the team. There's been a lot of crap written since (his prawn sandwich 
outburst) but I haven't lost sleep over it," Keane told the official Manchester United 
magazine.

"I felt it had to be said. The other players probably agreed with me but maybe, as 
captain, I had to say it."

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[36] Probability theory
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
West Am's Harry Redknapp on being turned down for signing Robbie Keane: "We went over 
to Italy and had a meet with the people from Milan and made an offer of £10million but 
we couldn't quite agree terms with them. It wasn't far away I don't think, but I don't 
know if they really want to sell the boy anyway to be fair.  And I don't know if the 
boy wants to leave - I think he probably wants to stay there."

Confirmaton what we've always known? - Redknapp doesn't know much! 

 

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[35] No Champions League changes for a while yet
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
Uefa chief Gerard Aigner said that because of "current television rights and 
commercial contracts", it would be "impossible for any reformatting of the current 
set-up to take place." 

"We are well aware from various sources that there are too many matches being played. 
We will take account of that when we begin looking at ways of eventually changing the 
format as of March and April. Only then will we be able to start considering different 
solutions." 


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[34] Reserve fixture re-arranged
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
Everton (home) - now being played on Thursday 11 January 2001 after being postponed 
from 14 December 2000. Kick Off 7pm.

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[33] Liverpool player confident
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
Liverpool's Vladimir Smicer said: "We go full of confidence and I see no reason why we 
can't get a good result. It will be a hard game for us, but it will be for them too."

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[32] More FIFA awards rubbish
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
Did anyone else notice that Trinidad and Tobago midfielder Russell Latapy was named as 
one of the best players in the world in the Fifa poll. Work that one out!

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[31] We've got Jaap Stam better than your ground
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
Leicester City Football Club has carried out an emergency inspection of its stadium 
after a large piece of roofing crashed on to a car.  A large asbestos sheet from the 
North Stand was dislodged by high winds, causing an estimated £2,000 worth of damage 
to a 1999 dark blue Honda Accord.  But a Leicester City spokeswoman said the incident 
would not affect this weekend's match.  She said: "The match between Leicester City 
and Charlton Athletic will go head as normal. The roof has been looked at, the repairs 
will be completed. There is no problem with the safety, everything has been checked."

No mention of the asbestos though...

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[30] RN comment - Tell us something we don't know
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Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 by bar-knee:
All the press have picekd up, in one form or another, the story that Utd are to break 
our wage schedule - with various estimates saying it will cost £100m+ to the club. 
Hopefully this isn't a bit of pre-season ticket rises PR - but despite Our Martin at 
the time of Keano saying it was a one off what actual real story have the tabloids got.

With Becks, Giggs, Scholes and Cole to name but four coming up for renewal it is 
plainly obvious that telephone numbers were going to be talked about and probably 
achieved - so all they've done is tell us what we all knew already

a) these Utd top players are up for negotiation

b) we want/have to keep them

c) to do so will probably mean telephone n

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2000-12-16 Thread news

 
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[24] Transfer rumour of the day
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
Ronnie Johnsen could be a target of Barca in the summer?

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[23] Matchday ref info
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
Yes - as one reader pointed out - it wasn't Mike Riley who did the 
goal celebration - "clenched fist in front of shorts". It was  actually Mike Reed. 
Apparently Riley was a guest, and speaker at Fergi'es big party on the evening after 
the 7-1 West Ham game, which Riley refereed. Hopefully  he'll be sending off a few 
Scousers on Sunday then.

[Thanks for that info Peter]


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[22] First goalscorer odds
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
FIRST GOALSCORER ODDS
click odds to place bet Man Utd:
Solskjaer 4/1 
Sheringham 4/1 
Scholes 7/1 
Giggs 9/1 
Beckham 9/1 
Greening 10/1 
Healy 10/1 
Keane 11/1 
Chadwick 14/1 
Fortune 16/1 
Irwin 16/1 
Butt 18/1 
Wallwork 25/1 
Silvestre 40/1 
Johnsen 40/1 
G Neville 40/1 
P Neville 40/1 
Brown 50/1 
No Goalscorer  8/1 
  Liverpool:
Fowler 13/2 
Owen 13/2 
Heskey 13/2 
Barmby 11/1 
McAllister 12/1 
Smicer 16/1 
Biscan 16/1 
Hamann 20/1 
Gerrard 20/1 
Ziege 25/1 
Murphy 25/1 
Hyypia 33/1 
Babbel 40/1 
Carragher 40/1 
Traore 50/1 
Henchoz 50/1 
No Goalscorer  8/1 
 

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[21] Odds for the game
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
ODDS
4/7 Man Utd win 
5/1 Liverpool win 
9/4 Draw 

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[20] Giggs on the game
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Losing the title at Anfield in April 1992 was terrible.  Leeds had won in the 
morning, so we knew we had to beat Liverpool on  their home patch to keep our 
faltering challenge alive.  We lost 2-0, which confirmed Leeds as champions. Anfield 
was in  raptures and their fans took a lot of pleasure from our failure. After the 
game, on my way to the team coach, a couple of Liverpool  fans asked me for my 
autograph. 

I obliged, only for them to tear it up in front of me. The manager  always reminds me 
of that incident to motivate me when we play  Liverpool.

Against Charlton I saw Solskjaer out of the corner of my eye and the  goalkeeper off 
his line, so when the ball fell to me I just  thought 'What the hell?'. I watched the 
ball after I hit it and it was almost like it was in  slow motion.  I was waiting for 
it to drop but as it went nearer and nearer I  thought it was going to go in.

I took a chance because I had nothing to lose. I am disappointed  that I have not 
scored more goals this season because I always aim  for double figures, but there is 
still some time left."

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[19] Stapleton on the clash on Sunday
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Posted Saturday, December 16, 2000 by bar-knee:
"It has got to the point of being close to  hatred. I think it has a lot to do with 
jealousy from both sets of  supporters. It is the biggest game of the season for 
Liverpool and  for Man Utd it's on a par with Leeds because it's that sort of  
atmosphere

I think it's been a place like Anfield was some years a go when 
people used to go there and tremble and didn't perform. In the last few years when 
I've seen Liverpool play at Old Trafford  they have not played too badly and had most 
of the play. I think Michael Owen can cause problems for any team. I think it's  down 
to the service he gets. The problem for the team generally is to  make sure they don't 
get overrun.

Liverpool haven't really been given much chance in this match I  think most people are 
thinking they are going to go there and get  beaten so this could be the occasion 
where they turn it round. I don't think Sami Hyypia has played as well as he did last 
season.  Him and Henchoz have looked stretched all the time and the goalkeeper  has 
had a little bit of a confidence crisis.

I think Wes Brown is an outstanding young player. Everybody has  great hopes for him 
for many years being the England centre back. He will be first choice, himself and 
Jaap Stam, as soon as Stam gets  himself fit and back playing. I think they will be a 
formidable defensive partnership for United. It's a vital fixture for United to 
maintain their lead over  everybody else. I don't think Liverpool are in the title 
race. They have lost to  many games in the league up to now to be realistic 
challengers.

But the game itself means a lot to them. I think it could give them  a new sense of 
belief. If they beat United at Old Trafford they will  know they can go anywhere in 
the country and win. I think it will be a tough game and United will come out on top.  
There is always goals scored. I think there will be a minimum of  three and United 
will win 2-1."

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[14] Houllier - Fab is Fab
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
Houllier: "United have had basically the same team for years except for Barthez, who 
has given them added value. He is a world-class keeper - in fact the best in the world 
in my opinion. Fabien is very strong in one- on-one situations with an attacker. He is 
also a great kicker of the ball and a strong character." 

"France would not have won Euro 2000 but for him. He kept them in the final with his 
saves when Italy were one up. That was an indication of how much he enjoys the big 
occasion." 

But where is the "United are still years ahead of us" comment? Ah - there it is: 
"We've got the foundations in place, but we have to acknowledge they are still far 
ahead of us." 

This will be Houllier's 100th match in sole charge of Liverpool and - ever the 
over-ambitious - he says: "I'd like to celebrate in the best way. We hope to do as 
well as last season, when we drew at Old Trafford." 

Go for it Gerrard - and don't spare the horses.


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[13] More Fergie on Heskey and League
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
On Heskey: "I was told about him by our former goalkeeper, Chris Turner. He was 
working at Wolves and had seen a lot of Heskey in the Midlands. We enquired about him 
some years ago, but nothing materialised from that." 

The League: "After New Year you have a good idea where the main challenge is likely to 
come from. If we are No. 1 on January 1, we'll have a big chance." 

Unlike Scholesy, Fergie says he thought the Scousers would put up a better challenge: 
"Gerard Houllier is building his idea of a team and it's very strong and athletic. I 
thought they would be closer to us."

"You have got to do it. What do you do - keep playing people until they are dead on 
their feet? Take Michael Owen. For a young player, he has suffered from over-exposure 
and Gerard knows that. You have got to look at the big picture, and that is what 
Gerard is doing." 



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[12] Wes on Owen and Fowler
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
"They are all talented forwards and this will be the first time I've played against 
Liverpool. But I know what to expect. It will be a very passionate game and I know 
what this fixture means to the fans. 

"We've got to try to win it, not only for ourselves but also for the supporters." 

Fergie believes the long layoff has had a positive aspect, too: "He was able to look 
at his whole life as a young person and realise what football meant to him. He was 
able to say: 'I hope I get back to playing again.' And being out for a whole year gave 
him time to make a full recovery. 

"When he did come back, there wasn't a semblance of the injury. He's matured and, off 
the pitch, is quite laid-back. But on it, he's a winner." 

"The first chance I get, Wes will have a rest - but not at the moment."

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[11] Wes on his injury 
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
And Wesley says on his injury: "I realised it could have been the end of my career. 
You do think about that, but you have just got to get on with what the physio sets out 
for you. It was agony not being involved in the squad. Instead, I was just having to 
watch the team on the telly." 

"I talked to Roy about it because he had been through it all before. He had the same 
injury, but he encouraged me to keep going and stay positive. It was very hard for me, 
but you know you've got to get back in there. If you are going to achieve anything, 
you've got to work at it and overcome setbacks." 

"The physio didn't rush me - he made me take my time. It was a question of making sure 
I came back when I was ready and now it's great just to be playing again every week. 
Hopefully, I'll keep up my fitness levels and go on from here. It was terribly 
frustrating being out, but I think that period helped me mature and has also made me 
better on the field." 



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[10] Fergie on Wesley
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
The Boss: "Without question, Wes is the best natural defender this club has had for 
years and years. Even at 13 years of age, as a defender, he could smell trouble. But 
he has added to his game what you need to add if you are going to become a top 
defender. That is use of the ball and timing, both in the air and in the tackle." 

"His performance level has been incredible since he returned to the side. He is a top 
player."



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[9] Last six meetings 
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by redend:
LAST SIX LEAGUE GAMES 1999-2000 

Man Utd 1 Liverpool 1 

(Solskjaer) (Berger) 

Liverpool 2 Man Utd 3 

(Hyypia, Berger) (Carragher 2

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[28] Scouser fails to score
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
Big Brother winner Craig Phillips is planning to advertise in a lonely hearts column 
because he's so desperate for a girlfriend.

Craig - who's recently been promoting his single At This Time Of Year - says he can't 
remember the last time he had sex.

He plans to spend Christmas with his mother and his dogs and in the New Year he wants 
some time off so he can go out and try to get a date.

He told the Sunday People: "It's incredibly frustrating. I'm a 29-year-old hot-blooded 
male and if I don't get a girlfriend soon, I'll put an ad in the paper.

"I can't remember the last time I made love. I haven't even had a kiss. I lived 
without sex in the house but I didn't expect it to go on for this long."

Will you tell him why, or shall I!


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[27] More world domination plans
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
>From Soccernet:

Manchester United have approached the world's richest man, Bill Gates of Microsoft, in 
a bid to set up a new media firm to generate yet more millions for the defending 
Premier League champions. 
Microsoft, Time-Warner and General Electric, who own US broadcasters NBC, have all 
been sounded out to finance a joint company with United to exploit the club's media 
rights across the globe. 

Although United have already set up MUTV to deal with TV rights primarily in the UK, a 
new company is planned for next year when the new Premier League TV deal comes into 
play. 

Then United will have the rights to delayed TV highlights for their Premier League 
games and the new company would aim to market those rights worldwide on the internet 
and TV. 

The move by the world's biggest media companies to work with United indicates that the 
club are now perceived as one of the world's premier TV brands. 

US TV chiefs believe that United's worldwide appeal, particularly in south-east Asia, 
could outstrip the marketability of famous US sports clubs such as the Chicago Bulls 
and San Francisco 49ers. 

The interest of the leading US media conglomerates is significant in that it further 
distances United from Rupert Murdoch and BSkyB after the company's unsuccessful bid to 
buy the Old Trafford club. 

BSkyB still have a 9.9 per cent stake in United, but while they are principal media 
advisers to other clubs where they are stakeholders, such as Leeds United, Sunderland, 
Manchester City and Chelsea, United chief executive Peter Kenyon has put space between 
himself and Murdoch.



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[26] A doleite speaks
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
As Roy 'giz a job' Evans says

'I suppose it was natural after so long with the club to feel bitter and twisted about 
the way I left. Part of me still wanted the team to do well because of my relationship 
with the players but for a month or so I somehow needed them to lose so I could tell 
myself things were no better without me.

With bitterness levels at these levels, surely a job at Maine Road beckons? 


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[25] More Fergie on Wes
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
"At 13, he could smell danger anywhere in the final third, he was always there to 
sniff it out. The quality he's added is the ability to read the game properly, and 
with his use of the ball, timing in tackles, timing in the air, he's become a top 
player, the boy." 

"He's quite laid-back off the pitch. But on it, he's winner. I've seen him lose his 
cool. He can snap into tackles; he can bite when he wants to." Ferguson was reminded 
of last month's Manchester derby, when there was a threat of a little "afters" when 
Brown tangled with the volatile Paul Dickov as a challenge took the pair over the 
touchline. As the United manager was swift to make the point, with a mischievous smile 
("Dickov's a perfect Scotsman – he'd start a row in an empty house"), it was to 
the United man's credit that he responded with his customary sang froid. 



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[24 Fergie on Hoolahoop
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
"We've got a settled squad and continuity," he said, "whereas Liverpool are still in 
the process of building. That said, though, I did think they would be closer to us 
this season. They're an athletic team and can give anyone a good game on their day." 

"You have to rotate your players," he (Fergie) said, "and then, when you do it, you 
get panned if it doesn't work. It's crazy. What else do you do, wait until your young 
players drop dead on their feet? Gérard is protecting his players, just as we did with 
Ryan [Giggs]." 



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[23] Bates gets evicted
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
Ken Bates will step down 

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[28] Scouser fails to score
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
Big Brother winner Craig Phillips is planning to advertise in a lonely hearts column 
because he's so desperate for a girlfriend.

Craig - who's recently been promoting his single At This Time Of Year - says he can't 
remember the last time he had sex.

He plans to spend Christmas with his mother and his dogs and in the New Year he wants 
some time off so he can go out and try to get a date.

He told the Sunday People: "It's incredibly frustrating. I'm a 29-year-old hot-blooded 
male and if I don't get a girlfriend soon, I'll put an ad in the paper.

"I can't remember the last time I made love. I haven't even had a kiss. I lived 
without sex in the house but I didn't expect it to go on for this long."

Will you tell him why, or shall I!


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[27] More world domination plans
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
>From Soccernet:

Manchester United have approached the world's richest man, Bill Gates of Microsoft, in 
a bid to set up a new media firm to generate yet more millions for the defending 
Premier League champions. 
Microsoft, Time-Warner and General Electric, who own US broadcasters NBC, have all 
been sounded out to finance a joint company with United to exploit the club's media 
rights across the globe. 

Although United have already set up MUTV to deal with TV rights primarily in the UK, a 
new company is planned for next year when the new Premier League TV deal comes into 
play. 

Then United will have the rights to delayed TV highlights for their Premier League 
games and the new company would aim to market those rights worldwide on the internet 
and TV. 

The move by the world's biggest media companies to work with United indicates that the 
club are now perceived as one of the world's premier TV brands. 

US TV chiefs believe that United's worldwide appeal, particularly in south-east Asia, 
could outstrip the marketability of famous US sports clubs such as the Chicago Bulls 
and San Francisco 49ers. 

The interest of the leading US media conglomerates is significant in that it further 
distances United from Rupert Murdoch and BSkyB after the company's unsuccessful bid to 
buy the Old Trafford club. 

BSkyB still have a 9.9 per cent stake in United, but while they are principal media 
advisers to other clubs where they are stakeholders, such as Leeds United, Sunderland, 
Manchester City and Chelsea, United chief executive Peter Kenyon has put space between 
himself and Murdoch.



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[26] A doleite speaks
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
As Roy 'giz a job' Evans says

'I suppose it was natural after so long with the club to feel bitter and twisted about 
the way I left. Part of me still wanted the team to do well because of my relationship 
with the players but for a month or so I somehow needed them to lose so I could tell 
myself things were no better without me.

With bitterness levels at these levels, surely a job at Maine Road beckons? 


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[25] More Fergie on Wes
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
"At 13, he could smell danger anywhere in the final third, he was always there to 
sniff it out. The quality he's added is the ability to read the game properly, and 
with his use of the ball, timing in tackles, timing in the air, he's become a top 
player, the boy." 

"He's quite laid-back off the pitch. But on it, he's winner. I've seen him lose his 
cool. He can snap into tackles; he can bite when he wants to." Ferguson was reminded 
of last month's Manchester derby, when there was a threat of a little "afters" when 
Brown tangled with the volatile Paul Dickov as a challenge took the pair over the 
touchline. As the United manager was swift to make the point, with a mischievous smile 
("Dickov's a perfect Scotsman – he'd start a row in an empty house"), it was to 
the United man's credit that he responded with his customary sang froid. 



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[24 Fergie on Hoolahoop
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
"We've got a settled squad and continuity," he said, "whereas Liverpool are still in 
the process of building. That said, though, I did think they would be closer to us 
this season. They're an athletic team and can give anyone a good game on their day." 

"You have to rotate your players," he (Fergie) said, "and then, when you do it, you 
get panned if it doesn't work. It's crazy. What else do you do, wait until your young 
players drop dead on their feet? Gérard is protecting his players, just as we did with 
Ryan [Giggs]." 



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[23] Bates gets evicted
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Posted Sunday, December 17, 2000 by tb:
Ken Bates will step down 

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[19] Healy is the answer
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Posted Monday, December 18, 2000 by bar-knee:
Which is what a lot of Reds were thinking yesterday with just Ole up front.

Sammy McIlroy said: "I think the kid has got what it takes if Sir Alex chooses to use 
him. I think everyone knows that he has got the ability - especially Sir Alex, who has 
followed his progress closely. David has done it at international level for me and if 
he can handle that then he can handle the Premier League - especially if he will have 
all those great United players to help him. Nothing fazes him. When I first told him 
he was going to be involved with the senior team he just took it in his stride. Other 
players would have been worried or nervous but he just relished it. He had waited for 
his opportunity and he took it. He's waited for his chance at Manchester United and if 
Sir Alex gives him his chance in these games he will take it."

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[18] Scousers give different bus story
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Posted Monday, December 18, 2000 by bar-knee:
Press release...

"A group of children were caught up in a police raid against suspected 
football hooligans shortly before yesterday's Premier League clash 
between Liverpool and Manchester United. A coach carrying more than 60 fans from 
Merseyside was intercepted on  its way to Old Trafford by Greater Manchester police 
yesterday  morning.

The force said that its officers, who were acting on a tip-off,  discovered a number 
of weapons on board the vehicle. The supporters, who were ordered off the 
double-decker, allege they  were each subjected to a body search, including children 
as young as 
12. The fans were allowed to continue their journey to Old Trafford, but  were refused 
entry to the stadium by United officials. They returned  home without seeing 
Liverpool's 1-0 win.

Last night, some of the supporters angrily protested that they had  nothing to do with 
the weapons find and maintained they were the  victims of heavy-handed policing. David 
Lloyd, of Dingle, Liverpool, had taken his son, also called  David, to the match as a 
special treat on his 14th birthday. Mr Lloyd said: "The police searched David and made 
him take his shoes  and socks off after we got off the coach. 

"He also had to give his name and address. It was a very frightening 
experience for him.  I spent £40 on the two tickets for the match, plus £10 for the 
coach  fare and we were not even allowed to see the game. I am now going to seek legal 
advice."

Bootle man Willie Tierney was also on the coach with his 12-year-old 
son, Liam. He said: "It was very frightening for my son and the other children  on 
board. A lot of them were crying.  The police treated us like animals. I have 
travelled all over Europe  following Liverpool and have never been in trouble. This 
was my worst  experience. I will never go back to Old Trafford."

After being turned away from Old Trafford, the coach was given an  escort by Greater 
Manchester Police officers along the M62 towards  Merseyside. The force said the Old 
Trafford match commander, Chief Superintendent  Alan Hutchings, had evoked police 
powers under the Criminal Justice  and Public Disorder Act to search the coach and its 
occupants.

In a statement, police said: "Prior to the game, information and 
intelligence was received by GMP that a number of Liverpool fans 
would attend the game in possession of weapons with the intent to 
cause trouble. The police commander exercised his powers under Section 60 of the  
Criminal Justice and Public Disorder Act 1994, issuing the authority  to search people 
attending the game. A double-decker bus carrying  Liverpool fans was stopped and 
searched. A number of weapons were  found on board. Manchester United refused this 
group entry into the  stadium, fearing trouble and risking public safety."

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[17] Trouble at United prevented
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Posted Monday, December 18, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From MEN

"A 'battle bus' stacked with football hooligans' weapons was intercepted a mile from 
Old Trafford before yesterday's Manchester United - Liverpool clash. About 50 
Liverpool supporters on board the coach were escorted out of Manchester and back down 
the M62. Police found rubber hose coshes, CS gas canisters, craft knife blades, a 
thunderflash and drugs.

It was one of several buses searched in a special operation to prevent violence which 
marred last season's corresponding fixture. There were no arrests because police could 
not establish who brought the weapons aboard. After the game, about 100 seats were 
damaged by Liverpool fans. Today, Chief Supt Alan Hutchings said: "There is a previous 
history between these clubs of known factions causing serious violence and there were 
major problems last year. This time I decided to use Section 60 of the Criminal 
Justice and Public O

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[25] Scousers still going on about Sunday
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
Their Cup Final and all, they probably will carry on about it until we make amends at 
Anfield by which time they will miss out on the Champions League spot and we will be 
still vying for League and Euro glory...

Smicer: "We gave the ball away too easily at times and we were capable of scoring more 
than just one goal.  But that was probably our best performance of the season 
defensively.  United didn't create one big chance in the game, which says a lot about 
the way we played. 

I don't think anyone can underestimate the importance of our win.  United have been 
the best team in England for years, and we knew that after having lost our last game 
at home to Ipswich, we couldn't afford to lose again.  A draw would have been a good 
result for us, but the fact that we won was a big bonus. It means that we keep in 
touch with the teams at the top of the table, because it's our aim to finish in the 
top three and get into the Champions League next season.

Watching from there for most of the game, I sensed that United were not feeling 
strong. They lacked something up front.  It was good for us that they were without 
Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke and Teddy Sheringham, and that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer played in 
attack on his own.  But nothing should be taken away from how well we defended.  We 
made sure that David Beckham and Ryan Giggs weren't as effective as
usual.

I tried hard to shake off Chadwick, who was chasing me and pulling my shirt, and I 
fell over when he pushed me just outside the box. I don't think the referee had much 
choice but to send him off because I was in a one-on-one situation with the 
goalkeeper." 

Henchoz: "I don't make any apologies for feeling so proud.  Sunday's achievement was 
of special importance, and it was a moment to
savour, like having a gourmet meal.  After all, I think being part of the first 
Liverpool team to win at Old Trafford for 10 years, and which ended United's two-year 
unbeaten home record, is something anyone would be proud of. Nobody will be carried 
away by this result.  We've won a battle, not the war. But what a victory it was!"

Truly sad Scousers.

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[24] From the SPS handbook?
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
'A man has been seriously injured in Bombay when a fight broke out between two groups 
because he was singing too loudly. The man, one of four walking near a church in 
Bandra, made another group of four angry because of his loud singing, according to 
police. A fight broke out after he refused to stop and the singer suffered stab wounds 
to his chest before his attackers ran off.

No arrests were made, reports The Times of India.'


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[23] Another Red off to Antwerp
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
Belgian Newspaper 'Gazet van Antwerpen' says that United
are sending Michael Stewart to Antwerp FC. He'll be joining John O'Shea and Jimmy 
Davis, who will play after the Belgium winter break ends, Stewart some prospect to 
those in the know at OT.

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[22] Bit more striker bad news
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
Well, in addition to the current problems, Teddy looking like he'll be out for two 
weeks or so - Dwight Yorke will probably miss our key games (or should that be 
massive) against Arse and the Bitters later in the season due to T&T World Cup 
qualifiers. Might be worth doing the sacking of those games Dwight and winning back 
the top striking spot.

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[21] Fergie - I'd have liked Stam back earlier
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I think Jaap could have been back quicker to be honest but we've been curtailed and 
somewhat snookered by the specialist. He's put a time on it for Jaap's return and 
that's it - you cannot go against that. When he does get back, though, it'll bring a 
fresh presence to the team and give us a lift."

Perhaps backs up those reports of a little rift - now sorted - between the two over 
how to proceed with the injury when it first needed the op?


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[20] Becks prepares for latest TV interview
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by bar-knee:
Certainly not for a grilling as he and Posh Victoria will appear as guests for the 
last-ever TFI Friday this week on Channel 4.

Which thus gives me the opportunity to ask - and steal from Mrs Merton's lines - just 
what to do all those famous babes see in multi-millionaire publicity agile Chris Evans?

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[19] New jib to try for ticketless Reds?
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Posted Tuesday, December 19, 2000 by 

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2000-12-20 Thread news

 
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[34] And Joe Royle said
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Posted Wednesday, December 20, 2000 by bar-knee:
Not taking the 25 year countdown well, obviously - no mention of the RI duo who got 
the '25 years' flag into the Kippax after the game either!

"We've not had one ounce of luck. I didn't realise decapitation was no longer a 
penalty offence.  Horlock has a gash over his ear and how it was not a penalty I'll 
never know.  I'm not sure either why Paulo's goal was disallowed. The TV monitors are 
not that clear.  We've also hit the woodwork twice and it has just not gone for us, 
although I can't question our commitment.  It was a strange game, for I can't remember 
our keeper making any saves.  But I won't have any problems picking my players up, 
that's certain. I can't fault them." 

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[33] Phil Nev - let's start all over again
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Posted Wednesday, December 20, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Prior to the Liverpool game, I had a bad omen when someone mentioned to me that it 
was exactly two years to the day that we'd lost a League game at Old Trafford. Bad 
feelings formed in my mind because records are there to be broken."

(shouldn't have let them get to you Phil!)

"Our preparation all week went well, although Teddy picked up an injury, which was 
worrying considering we only had Ole out of our quartet of strikers available. We went 
into the game fully wanting and expecting to win, but our performance on the day was 
nowhere near our capabilities. This makes losing harder.

I can take nothing away from Liverpool - they had a game plan, which worked, and after 
the first 10 minutes we knew that we were going to have to dig out a result. We 
started the game very slowly, which gave Liverpool the confidence they needed to win 
the game. Pressure was never put on their keeper or back four and I thought in general 
the game wasn't as exciting as previous encounters. We never gained any rhythm in our 
play throughout the match - it was very stop-start. Our passing was poor.

To lose any game is very disappointing, but to lose to your biggest rivals makes it 
even worse. After the game, the players all agreed that we must start again and try 
not to lose at home for another two years. Our minds now have to focus away from this 
game and we need to pick ourselves up for next Saturday's match against Ipswich at 
home. Ipswich are a good footballing side that perform well together. They're in a 
great position at the top of the table, especially leading into the New Year. It'll 
also be good to play against one of my old team-mates and friends David Johnson, who 
came up the youth ranks with me at United but went on to sign for Bury Football Club 
where he had a great time and deservedly won himself a million-pound transfer to 
Ipswich".


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[32] More from Jaap
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Posted Wednesday, December 20, 2000 by bar-knee:
"My return to first-team action is getting closer. I came through my first training 
session for three and a half months on Monday morning. I trained with the reserves and 
it went well. My Achilles felt good. I'll continue to train with the reserves for the 
rest of the week, and then probably, starting on Christmas Day, begin training with 
the first team again.

The plan is to train with the first-team squad for a couple of weeks and then play a 
game for the reserves at the end of the first week of January. With the blessing of 
the manager and my specialist, I should then be on the brink of a first-team return.

I was at Old Trafford to see us lose to Liverpool a few days ago. We really didn't 
look like our normal selves. Liverpool weren't that much better than us on the day, 
but they got the all-important goal. It was obvious that they'd come to Old Trafford 
to do a job. They played very defensively, soaking up our attacks and then hitting us 
on the counter-attack with the pace of Michael Owen and Emile Heskey. After they got 
their goal, they sat back and made it difficult for us.

It must be remembered that Liverpool only managed to score from a dead-ball situation, 
and Gary Neville was very unlucky to give even that away. I think he was trying to 
control the ball with his chest, but it bounced up against his arm.

It was a rare sight to see us create so few goalscoring chances in front of our own 
fans. But Liverpool defended very well and stopped us. Ole Gunnar played well, but it 
was difficult for him alone up front. He needed more support, but it was always going 
to be hard for us with three strikers - Teddy Sheringham, Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke - 
all out through injury or suspension.

Liverpool's win signalled the end of our great run at Old Trafford. This stretched 
back for 44 games since we lost 3-2 to Middlesbrough at home. I'm very proud to have 
been part of such a team. I suppose our record was always going to go some day

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[30] New United Song
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From Paddy O'N.

"They're a big club, they'll sing they'll scream they'll shout,
They'll sing sbout things they know fuck all about,
3000 at home to Mansfield,
What a huge support,
And when they play at home they empty Stockport,
Tra la la  la we laugh at city, hah ha ha ha ha ha"

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[29] George Burley up for our game
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
"We are not kidding ourselves as only half of the season is over. But  the facts speak 
for themselves. We have 33 points, we are in third  place in the league, we have the 
best away record in the Premiership  with six wins and are full of confidence.  Now we 
face our toughest test with a trip to Old Trafford but we  will be going there without 
fear.  We are making sure we are enjoying what is happening at the moment.  Things are 
going well right now and we will not let up." 

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[28] Stam on his return
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Wes and Gary have done well without me, but I'm not  worried about getting my place 
back. I'm not a player who can sit on  the bench, so I'll be working extra hard to 
make sure the manager  feels I'm right to go back into the side.

Wes is already a top defender. The next few England  managers will be smiling about 
the defenders in the squad. There are  already some top-class centre-halves like 
Jonathon Woodgate and Rio  Ferdinand around, but I rate Wes right up there with them. 
If Wes keeps improving, he'll be a regular in the England squad for  the next decade.

This is the longest I've been out with an injury. I've  just returned to training with 
the first-team and it's a big relief,  as I was getting fed up with all the running on 
my own. I've lost count of the number of 400m I've run in the last few weeks  and that 
isn't my favourite part of training. I've also been shooting and jumping, and the 
Achilles is holding up  fine. It feels like it used to before the injury. It's been 
hard being out, but I was just glad to see the lads win  through to the next stage of 
the Champions League.

It's a great competition, as you come up against the top teams and 
best players. It's been frustrating, of course, but I knew from before the  operation 
that I was going to be out for a long time, so even before  the surgery I was used to 
the idea of sitting it out. A lot of other players just twist their knee or get hurt 
in a tackle  and are out for a long time, so it's a bigger shock for them than it  has 
been for me. Of course, when you're doing the same thing every day, like going  into 
the treatment room and running, it gets a bit boring.

And when you go to Old Trafford on match days and see the other lads  going out on to 
the pitch, it can get you down. But it's something I  have grown to handle. The good 
news is that it's all going to plan. The Achilles is  feeling like it used to. 
Everyone is satisfied and the gaffer and  doctor are happy with me coming back soon.

I don't mind Rio getting the most expensive tag. Nowadays that's  how it goes with 
club's playing ridiculous amounts of money. I won't say that's a ridiculous amount for 
Ferdinand in particular,  but when they paid £10m for me I said it was too much money 
for a  player. Everything has gone berserk with the transfer fees - especially with  
the fact there may be a new transfer system coming in soon. It's  definitely a risk."



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[27] Sheep ripped off
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
As they discover what we've had to put up for years as Anderlecht - although Leeds are 
charging just £25 for Anderlecht's visit to 
Elland Road - are charging either £40 or £50 a ticket when they go to 
Brussels.

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[26] A gargoyle speaks
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
Martin Keown as he's otherwise known.

"We've had our bad patch and come through it. All systems go. Race on. If we can do it 
at White Hart Lane, we can do it anywhere. We know we can catch Manchester United."

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[25] Kanu has pop at Arse
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
In a letter about missing the Olympics he writes:  "I negotiated the best I could with 
my club to attend the Sydney Olympics but they would not allow me to leave. I was 
forbidden to leave the country unless it was to play for my club. The matter was well 
and truly out of my hands. I had no powers (to decide) even though I practically moved 
between heaven and earth to get my release.

If this had not happened, I would have been at Sydney, proud to represent my country 
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[32] RED NEWS on Saturday
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by redend:
Don't forget you can get the latest copy of RED NEWS otside OT on Saturday.

Its only 1.50 and remember - any profits (if there ever are any) will be pissed up the 
wall in Wetherspoons. So it goes to a good cause too.





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[31] Barthez live web chat
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Posted Thursday, December 21, 2000 by bar-knee:
If you caught it last night you may have noticed that Red News operatives managed to 
ask 3 of the questions for Barthez - and a great question and answer session it was 
too - we'll hopefully have an English translation of the best bits for tomorrow's news.



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[16] Fergie successor rumours start
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
This time Soccernet says that Martin O' Neill is a dead cert the new boss. No quotes 
of course to back this up, probably just O'Neill's mates in the press to remind those 
of us south of Hadrians Wall of his existence

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[15] Fergie in for new keeper!!
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
As rumours persist that we are after Di Canio

This is from Soccernet:

Soccernet understands that the Old Trafford club had an enquiry for the Italian 
striker rebuffed last summer. But West Ham's recent indication of their willingness to 
sell has re-ignited United's interest, although they face serious competition from Di 
Canio's boyhood team, Lazio, if they are to succeed in prising him away from Upton 
Park. 

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[14] Likely teams
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Manchester United (from): Barthez, Irwin, G Neville, Brown, Silvestre, Beckham, Keane, 
Butt, Scholes, Giggs. Solskjaer, Fortune, Greening, Healy, Wallwork, P Neville, van 
der Gouw.


Ipswich (from): R Wright, Wilnis, McGreal, Venus, Hreidarsson, Croft, J Wright, 
Magilton, Holland, Clapham, Scowcroft, Stewart, Armstrong, Johnson, Bramble, Reuser, 
Branagan, Karic.



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[13] Tractor driver on Utd
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Dutch fullback Willins says:

"I'm looking forward to playing against Ryan Giggs again.

"He was fairly quiet in the last game against us so I hope I can do the same job on 
him.

"Other teams will be looking at this game not only to see if we can stop Manchester 
United running away with the league, but also to see just how good we are.

"Teams are hoping we can get the three points which will make the Premiership more 
interesting, otherwise Manchester United will pull away even further and make it even 
more difficult for others to catch them.

"The way they are going at the moment I can't see anyone taking over from them as the 
best side in the country. 

"They are well balanced throughout. 

For us to win they must have an off day and we must be on top of our game."



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[12] Burley on his debut
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"It was a very big moment in my career. I think it was Best's last appearance at home 
for Manchester United. 

"He was in the twilight of his career but it was a game I'll never forget. It brings 
back great memories."



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[11] Burley on the 9-0
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"The last time we went there in 1995 we lost 9-0. We were bottom of the table and 
being beaten heavily every week. 

"Confidence was not particularly high but now we are going there third in the 
Premiership and a lot stronger."



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[10] Burley on Fergie 
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"I have so much respect for Alex Ferguson and the way he has developed his squad.

"He runs the team the way it should be. He has brought young players through, bought 
some great players and is still hungry for success.

"He will have been disappointed with last Sunday's home defeat against Liverpool. 

"It will have hurt his pride and make his players all the more determined to get the 
right result against us.

"Visiting Old Trafford is the toughest match in a Premiership club's programme. 

"We are looking forward to it. We are not without hope but we know it is going to be 
very difficult."



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[9] Fergie on the 9-0
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"I felt for George Burley back then I must admit.

"It was a heck of a result for him and it must have been difficult to get over that, 
but he's been remarkable in how he's transformed the club.

"You have to admire what he's done since that 9-0 defeat.

"To suffer the disappointment of being relegated and then the disappointment of losing 
in the play-offs a couple of times.

"But he finally got them back and his team are certainly relishing being in the 
Premier Division.

"He's good at his job and he's young. He was a winner as a player and I'm sure he's 
got that winning attitude as a manager."



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[8] Fergie on Burley
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"That Ipswich team under Bobby Robson was an excellent team with a lot of top players 
in it," he said.

"He had a couple of Dutchmen in Arnold Muhren and Frans Thijssen who just added that 
touch of class to it.

"That was a great spell for the club, but the present team are starting to catch them 
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[24] Steve: We all hate losing
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Steve McClaren has admitted there was a mood of "massive depression" in the dressing 
room following last Sunday's defeat by Liverpool. The assistant manager told the 
club's radio station that the United players and coaches are the "worst people in the 
world" when it comes to losing and that the wounds are unlikely to heal for some time. 
Otherwise, Steve is very upbeat about being top of the Premiership tree at Christmas 
time.

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[23] Top 5 tonight
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Man Utd   19 43 
Arsenal   19 35 
Leicester 19 35 
Liverpool 19 33 
Ipswich   19 33 


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[22] Fowl!
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Ian Wright's Chicken Tonight advert came second in the top ten of tragic TV ads put 
together by the advertising industry's bible.

Campaign said: "One certainly does not feel like chicken tonight. One feels more like 
a sick bucket, which is not a good start for advertising a food product."

Good point, well put we say!

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[21] What a surprise 2
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
As United deny any bids for Di Cano and Petit

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[20] What a surprise
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
United's Old Trafford clash with Arsenal and away match at Liverpool have been 
selected by Sky Sports for live TV coverage in the New Year. 

United will entertain Arsene Wenger's men one day later, at 1pm on Sunday, 25 February 
2001. 
The Reds' trip to Anfield has also been subject to change, and will now kick off at 12 
noon on Saturday, 31 March 2001.
 
United's FA Cup third-round clash at Fulham and their Premiership clash at Leeds 
United have also been chosen for Sky coverage in the New Year. 

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[19] More successor talk
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
As Kenyon says:

"The key is continuity. Alex has done a tremendous job and will leave after 16 years 
of management. 

"We want the next manager to spend a long time here too. "We don't want someone to 
come in, spend £70 million and then leave after two years. 
"We also want someone who fully understands the English game." 

Teamtalk interprets this as an endorement for Steve McClaren. 

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[18] Eric: 'Becks is the man'
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
"He's a winner. You have to be a winner. To be an example you need to be a winner and 
I think he has all the quality to be the captain of England." 

"David's received so much abuse because he's a great player. 

"Alex Ferguson knew David was a great prospect and we could see that he would become a 
great footballer." 

"It is better to say nothing, be strong and to prove everything you had to prove. He 
has done what he had to do." 


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[17] Final Score
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Posted Saturday, December 23, 2000 by tb:
Utd 2 (Both by Ole) Tractor boys 0

And with the scousers doing us a favour (tee hee) by putting 4 past the scout troup, 
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[19] Ok, own up
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
Anyone we know?

Police have urged people not to clog up emergency phone lines during the festive 
period after a caller dialled 999 and asked: "Can you get me home? I'm drunk."



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[18] Gregory praises Utd
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
As Shotgun says:

"I think it's a foregone conclusion - unless Barcelona come with a late run!

"They showed yet again against us what an excellent side they are and their results 
this season prove they are much better than anyone else.

"They just keep plugging away and, as biased as I am towards my team, I have to give 
credit where it is due - and there is a lot due to Manchester United.

"I have got no complaints about the result although United missed the kind of 
gilt-edged chances that they normally stick away.

"When that was happening I thought it might be our day and we could get away with a 
point but they were excellent over the 90 minutes.

"What was disappointing for me was the way we passed the ball although once again I 
couldn't fault our effort."


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[17] More praise for Ole
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
As Fergie says:

"He could have scored four today but he is a magnificent finisher and he put away a 
really good header."


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[16] Fergie not getting carried away 
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
"By New Year we will know where any challenge is going to come from but I don't think 
anyone in mid-table then can win the League from there.

"We won't get carried away. We will just keep battling away and try and get as many 
points on the board as we can."

Ferguson admitted: "When it was 0-0 with five minutes to go I thought it was going to 
be one of those days.

"But my players always keep going and driving on and looking for a goal when other 
teams might settle for 0-0."


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[15] More Petit rumours
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
This time from the Indy:

Emmanuel Petit is keen to sign for Manchester United and end his misery with the 
Spanish giants Barcelona. 

Petit's move from Arsenal has turned into a disaster and now he has put the feelers 
out about a sensational return to English football at Old Trafford. The Frenchman 
would prefer to go to United despite opportunities to join Chelsea or Fulham. He has 
been using his friends in the game to make contact with the champions. 

Sir Alex Ferguson is a big fan of Petit, once revealing he was the Premiership 
opponent he feared most, but any deal could come down to finance. Barcelona paid £8m 
for the 30-year-old and would have to slash that fee before United would invest in a 
player of his age. 

Hints that Petit may quit football entirely in the summer may be designed to worry 
Barça and force them to take less for him now. Petit is also on a huge salary at the 
Nou Camp and those terms would have to come down to fit within United's pay scales, 
but that should not be a major complication. 

United could only use Petit in domestic games. He has already played for Barcelona in 
the Champions' League and would be ineligible for them. However, Ferguson could be 
tempted as he has no cover for his captain, Roy Keane, and is looking for 
reinforcements at the back, where Petit has been performing this term. 



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[14] Priceless Giggsy
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Posted Tuesday, December 26, 2000 by tb:
By Ken Lawrence in the Moral:

Ryan Giggs arrives at Villa Park today having confirmed himself as the one, true total 
footballer in the Premier-ship and a player even more important to Manchester United 
than his close friend and colleague David Beckham. 
The Welshman's devastating performance against Ipswich on Saturday suggested that he 
can play anywhere. 

A multi-functional exponent of the beautiful game, Giggs may have made his name as a 
wiry left winger but will soon complete the decade of development that had made him 
the embodiment of his side's success. 

Ipswich, the side with the best away record in the Premiership, were undone by Ole 
Gunnar Solskjaer, who scored two stunning goals in the space of 11 first-half minutes, 
both emanating from driven through balls delivered by Beckham. 

But it was Giggs who really terrorised George Burley's team at Old Trafford. If, as 
seems likely, he is again deployed in the role of central attacker against Aston 
Villa, the warm glow they felt after beating Leeds United will be chilled by the fear 
of taking on a player whom the Ipswich manager deemed 'unplayable'. 

Giggs, who will complete 10 years in the United side in March, was as comfortable, 
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[31] Doh - it's not big but massive
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Dunfermline have signed midfielder Gary Mason from Manchester City on a free transfer.

Pars manager Jimmy Calderwood said of Mason: "He's had experience of a big, big club 
and little Barry Nicholson was also at a big, big club, an even bigger one. It's never 
easy leaving a big club but he wasn't getting a game and he wanted to play football. 
Barry hasn't missed a game for us and has gained a lot of experience so hopefully Gary 
will do the same."

Surely he must have tongue firmly in cheek with his 'big club' mentions in one 
sentence alone - but got it mixed up. Big...massive...easy mistake to make!

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[30] More FIFA player award handbags
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Luis Figo has gone into one over Zidane's win at the FIFA do.

"Perhaps it should be renamed 'best player in the European Championship. I don't 
understand it because the tournament only lasted a month, and besides, the European 
Championship was won by 22 players - not just one man. I would have liked to have won 
this award and to have dedicated it to all of my companions and the supporters of 
Barcelona, Real Madrid and the national team - especially to all of the Portuguese who 
would have been proud if I had been first in the vote. I would have voted for Figo. I 
don't feel superior or inferior to others, but if I don't defend myself, what am I 
going to do?"

When he says he'd have voted for Figo - isn't that saying he'd - er - vote for 
himself. Well who else?


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[29] Strachan on his Utd days
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From the Indy

On Fergie

"He is the best sports psychologist in the world. He tests people when they are 
younger, and weeds out the weak-minded. You can be technically and physically OK, but 
if you're weak-minded you go. That's his philosophy. At Aberdeen he made my life a 
misery on many occasions, and I had to get over that...

He remembers the day Fergie became his boss again after Fatko got the sack

"Aye. The fifth of November, 1986. I knew he'd be up for it, because he'd already told 
me that he would only leave Aberdeen for Barcelona or Man Utd. So I was hoping the 
Barcelona coach would get the sack. I didnae want the same manager again. I wanted to 
be motivated by new people. But at the same time I was one of the very few who 
publicly backed Fergie when things weren't going right in those first few years. I 
said 'give him more time, he'll get it done.' People forget that.

"I made sure I didnae socialise with Robbo. I couldnae handle it. I did have a session 
with him once." Where was that? "I cannae remember. But I loved their company, they 
were great lads. I used to drive home from training along the M56, and there was a 
left turn for Wilmslow, where I lived, and a right turn for Hale, where they lived. I 
used to say that it was left for under three pints a night, and right for more than 
10."


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[28] UEFA - we must change formats
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Gerhard Aigner, director general of European football's governing body Uefa, said: "We 
aren't going to immediately reform the Champions League or the Uefa Cup but must 
consider it at some time. I'm convinced the Champions League is too long and the 
fixture list is saturated. We don't want people to get bored and it's important the 
competitions are interesting."

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[27] More massive news
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From our RN columnist Farrell, Born & Bred

"They can't get to Europe cos of localised floods..."

"They have games called off 'cos they don't like the rain..."

Cos City are a Massive Club

Sure you've probably had a few like this already but could you Imagine the amount of 
stick we'd get if it happened at Old Trafford? Best story I've heard is a group of 
City fans tore up there stubbs to make confetti to throw in the air - did so and now 
have to pay again to watch the match when it's replayed!!! But how can they tear up 
their stubs? Why don't they need them for future match ticket Applications? Massive"

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[26] Reserve match changed
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Manchester United Reserves home game against Everton has been postponed due to a, wait 
for it, waterlogged pitch. The original game for Thursday 14 December at Gigg Lane, 
has been put back to 11 January 2001, the next reserve match in fact.

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[25] Fergie - Ole will start on Sunday
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 

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2000-12-27 Thread news

 
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[17] Now what's the difference?
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
Now remind us - what happened about Becks getting persistently pelted 
with coins etc at Massive Road?

 EVERTON could find themselves the subject of an FA inquiry after 
referee Neale Barry confirmed that he will include in his report from  the Boxing Day 
game an incident in which Coventry City goalkeeper  Chris Kirkland was hit on the head 
by a missile.  In the dying minutes of the game, which Coventry won 2-1, Kirkland  
went down holding his head after being struck by an object thrown  from the Goodison 
Park crowd.  Barry has now confirmed that he will inform the Football Association  of 
the incident in his match report, which could see The Toffees  facing action.'


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[16] Fergie on Ole
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I guess Ole owed us that one. After all, he could  easily have scored four goals in 
this game.  That's the thing with Ole, he's not the sort of striker who will  carry on 
missing the target forever!"

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[15] Fergie on Boxing Day meals and our injuries
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
"The menu was restricted to cereals plus eggs, beans and chicken. Players have to be 
extra disciplined at this time of the year,  making sacrifices when other people are 
out enjoying themselves. I didn't tell the lads at half-time that Arsenal had  won 
6-1. We don't discuss the opposition, we try to let them worry  about us. 

Now we can look forward to the return of Jaap Stam, Andy Cole, Ronny 
Johnsen, David May and Mark Bosnich, together with Dwight Yorke free  from suspension. 
 I have arranged a special match at Wrexham on January 4 for them all  to get extra 
practise, and it will be great to have that little lot available once more as we push 
into 2001. 

Jaap has a final appointment with the specialist on January 3. If 
all goes well, he and several others might even be available for the 
FA Cup against Fulham."

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[14] More from Fergie
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
"With only five minutes to go, I was feeling that we would  be forced to settle for a 
draw.  That would have pleased our rivals seeing us in such a tight game  and then 
dropping a couple of points.  It all came right in the end, however, thanks to the 
fact that my  players never stopped driving forward and refused to accept the  
situation. 

The danger was that we might become a fraction careless and actually  lose. It needed 
one superb save from Fabien Barthez to deny a Gilles  de Bilde header midway through 
the second half to make sure we were  OK.  All in all, I wouldn't call this a great 
performance. We did what 
was necessary and it worked out in our favour, so that's fine. Villa 
showed some good football of their own and stayed with us all the 
way. But that one incident apart, they never really bothered us in  the penalty box. 

We were able to keep the likes of David Ginola and Paul Merson  pretty quiet - then up 
popped Ole to prove once again that he is one  of the best finishers in the business." 

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[13] More from Shotgun Gregory
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I don't blame Alex for playing things down.  Let's face it, adopting that sort of 
attitude is part of United's  make-up. It is one factor which contributes to their 
greatness.  But in reality I suspect that everybody else can abandon their hopes  of 
winning the title this time round.  Everyone else is competing for second position in 
the table. First  place is already filled, in my opinion. 

United simply maintain the right approach, continue producing such 
excellent football - and continue sitting on top of the pile. I began to think we 
might pinch something from the  game because United had missed several gilt-edged 
chances. Then bump,  it was suddenly all over." 

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[12] Match report from Torygraph
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by bar-knee:
Villa bubble bursts as Solskjaer keeps United flying high 
By Matt Lawton  (Filed: 26/12/2000) 


Aston Villa (0) 0 Manchester United (0) 1 

FIRST came the balloons, then an overwhelming sense of deflation. Had 
Aston Villa proved as defiant as the supporters who added a little 
hot air to their protest against Doug Ellis yesterday, the depressing 
sense of inevitability that accompanied Manchester United's victory 
might have been replaced by something rather more exciting.

With Arsenal's demolition of Leicester an hour earlier came the hope 
that this Premiership title race might not be quite as predictable as 
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Ignore Message - Test  from REDNEWS
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Posted Wednesday, December 27, 2000 by redend:
Ignore Message - Test  from REDNEWS



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[23] city programme editor - the weakest link - Goodbye?
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Posted Thursday, December 28, 2000 by redend:
The city programme editor is in for a spanking after an insult referring to the Munich 
air disaster appeared in an official match day programme.

An article about the best terrace chant of the year mentioned the "Same Old Munichs, 
Always Cheating". The reference was on the "CityBoys" page for the Derby County game 
above the disclaimer: "The opinions expressed by the CityBoys are not necessarily the 
official views of Manchester City FC."

Mark Longden, chair of the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association ( 
(link:http://www.imusa.org) http://www.imusa.org ) , said: "I wonder if the people 
responsible for these chants realise one of City's greatest keepers, Frank Swift, died 
on the plane?"

According to the Manchester Evening News City's chief spokesman Chris Bird has now 
apologised and ordered a meeting with match day programme editor Mike Beddow.


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[22] YOU WHAT? YOU WHAT? U-WOT-U-WOT-U-WOT?
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Posted Thursday, December 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I'm not motivated by money.. I went to leeds for some glory on the pitch" says Rio 
Ferdinand. 

[Yet another player seeking an alternative career in stand-up comedy then. Taxi for Mr 
Ferdinand.]

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[21] Added your name to the petition yet?
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Posted Thursday, December 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
'Fed up of the ever spiralling cost of your Season Ticket LMTB or match day ticket ? 
Can't afford to take the next generation of Reds along due to the cost?   Then don't 
hesitate do your bit and support IMUSA in this campaign.

IMUSA Online Petition

IMUSA wish to see no ticket price rises for the 2001/2002 season. If you support IMUSA 
in their campaign, please sign the petition below at :
(link:http://www.imusa.org/petition/index.htm) 
http://www.imusa.org/petition/index.htm

IMUSA want to see match ticket prices frozen in the short term, & in the longer term 
IMUSA wish to see prices reduced, especially in certain categories eg Younger fans.

The February board meeting is the time when prices are set for the following season, 
so we need to act now and encourage every United fan we know to visit the website, 
sign the petition and add your comments, we MUST make our points count and voices 
heard.'
 

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[20] Barca deny Becks bid
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Posted Thursday, December 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
And Ted Beckham wouldn't have it either!

Gabriel Masfurroll, Barcelona's principal spokesman (and we only have one who was only 
just appointed!), said: "I  absolutely deny this story. There is no Barca interest in 
David Beckham, who is currently playing for the richest club in the world."

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[19] Mark Lawrenson praises United
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Posted Thursday, December 28, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From his column in the Mirror.

'Sir Alex Ferguson's men are making sure Arsenal, Liverpool, Leeds and  Chelsea are 
left reaching for the travel sickness pills with their  stunning away-day victories. 
United have won six of their ten games  on the road this season and lost only once - 
and that was at  Highbury. Arsenal have managed to go away and win twice - at West Ham 
 and Middlesbrough - and that is the reason they are stuck so far  behind in second 
place. 

However, you could sit and analyse United's away displays all day and  not come up 
with a better reason than they simply have better players  than everyone else. 

That may sound very simplistic, but it's absolutely true. The likes  of Ryan Giggs, 
Paul Scholes and David Beckham are comfortable on the  ball and very good at keeping 
possession. 

And the biggest factor in being successful away from home is holding  on to the ball - 
and United are far superior at doing that than  anyone else. 

While in possession, the opposition cannot score. It's as simple as  that, but United 
are past masters at it.  United also have the best defensive unit. Okay, so they might 
have  shown a few uncharacteristic frailties at the back this season, but  far less 
than any rival. 

Then look at Giggs and Beckham. They get in as many tackles and work  as hard as 
anyone else on the pitch and always give their full-backs  protection. 

Furthermore, United do not go chopping and changing as the others do 
away from home. Fergie keeps a constant throughout the team and that 
works wonders for them. 

For teams who cannot win away from home, like Chelsea, it becomes a  psychological 
thing, but with United they have tremendous self-belief  that they can always win 
away.  They never line up differently tactically, whereas often Arsenal  leave Thierry 
Henry isolated up front and his hold-up play is  definitely not the strongest part of 
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[34] Healy on his way to Preston
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by redend:
Disappointing news for most of us at RN who wanted to see Healy given a chance but, as 
always, we have to trust the judgement of Fergie - the man in the know - and with a 
pretty good record on these things.

Preston have paid a club record fee "in excess of £1.5million" to bring David Healy 
from Manchester United. Its a loan deal initially to beat the lunchtime deadline for 
permanent signings so that he can be available for the matches against Sheffield 
United tomorrow and Bolton on New Year's Day.

Preston manager David Moyes:
"I have been trying for weeks and now we've got someone we think highly of. He is only 
21 and fits into the type of player we want at the club. It's the right time, the 
right price and he will be a great addition to the squad."

Healy, who spent part of last season on loan to Port Vale, has already broken into the 
Northern Ireland side.

Preston chief executive Tony Scholes added: "The supporters know we have been chasing 
a striker for some time. I am delighted we have signed someone of David Healy's 
quality."


We'll be getting reaction to the transfer from the undisputed expert on developing 
youth & reserve players - RED NEWS's correspondent "The Old Fart".

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[33] Pitch inspection latest
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
A few of our operatives desperate to find the score out before early starts from 
Manchester have got in touch with Newcastle who have confirmed that the pitch 
inspection at St James' will be at or close to 9.30am (that is bloody late though), 
but on each phone occasion the Geordies - but beware, keep checking during the morning 
on Radio 5 live, and here, of course - have said that with 200 volunteers they are 
very confident the game will go ahead tomorrow. Let's just hope the weather doesn't go 
too mental tonight.

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[32] Editor's computer problems - part 3926709
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Message from Editor: "Hope you all had a great drunken Christmas and best wishes for 
the New Year. Unfortunately a haze of the past few days celebrating everything and 
anything has slowed down the sorting out of my computer breakdown from last week - but 
I'm still in severe problems as 
a) I've lost all my e.mail addresses
b) and any important e.mails that I hadn't as yet replied to (apart from that it all 
went well!).
So if anyone I am in regular (or even not) contact with could just send me a quick 
e.mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can then get - don't laugh - my life back 
in order!
(Particularly I am trying to get ahold of Stephen R of Japan, Sean H of Boston, big 
Fat Kev of, well, any bar, and any good looking women from my past that haven't as yet 
decided to boil any rabbits I own).

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[31] Pitch inspection early tomorrow morning
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
There will be a pitch inspection at Newcastle Saturday morning so best to check before 
travelling as, apparently, it all depends on just how bad the weather gets in Geordie 
Land tonight. We once played there in the 80s with quite a bit of snow on the pitch, 
don't think they'd allowed that these days but keep posted for any more news on 
whether or not the game will go ahead.

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[30] Paraglider in the Palace - the real story?
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
Paraglider pilot Brett De La Mare the author from Darwin, Australia, who jumped into 
Buckingham Palace has revealed the reasons why, or so some dodgy tapes we brought off 
John down the Trafford Centre suggest.

"You see, I am a Manchester city season ticket holder and I can't take them anymore. 
They are so crap that I had to launch a protest so that the Queen as sovereign of our 
state would do the decent thing and disband the club. If she will ring the head off a 
pheasant in the name of humanity what price stopping us Bitters watching Goater and 
Wanchope every week"

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[29] Scouse shock!
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Posted Friday, December 29, 2000 by bar-knee:
'Prison bosses at Liverpool's Walton jail changed all the locks after  a spare set of 
keys went missing. The operation cost taxpayers around  £250,000, the Prison Service 
confirmed today. It is understood a back-up set was mislaid or stolen sparking fears  
that they may have fallen into the wrong hands' (i.e. any Scouser).

'The bunch of keys could open locks within the prison - including  cells - but could 
not unlock external doors. More than 1,500  criminals are housed in the category B 
prison in Hornby Road, Walton'

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[28] Blanc de

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2000-12-30 Thread news

 
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[13] Aussie coach on Bossie
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"Ferguson obviously has a problem with Mark and it's best for him to get a change of 
scene sooner rather than later," Farina told the Sydney Daily Telegraph. 

"If he's not playing regularly for his club it makes it difficult when it comes to 
being selected for Australia. 

"I spoke to Mark about the situation several weeks ago and I'm sure he'll make the 
right decision." 



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[12] Palermo deadline
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
Apparently we have until Jan 10th to sign Palermo. The Rent Boys and the East end 
types are also supposed to be interested.

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[11] Fergie on Peter's Gong
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"It's terrific for him and is reflection on his great career. 
"He was tremendous value to this club when he was here. He had an immense presence. 

"Defenders also had to get used to the verbal volleying he would give them from time 
to time, but he only did that because his heart was in it and he was always an 
absolute winner. 
"His record was marvellous. During his time here he never finished lower than second 
in the league and his international career was incredible. 

"He was won something like 102 caps and winning the European Championship with Denmark 
was a tremendous achievement when everybody thought they had only gone along there for 
the trip. 
"He's had an amazing career and I am very proud of him and very pleased for him and 
his family." 

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[10] Peter on MBE
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"The achievements of Manchester United were truly magnificent and it was great to be 
part of it. 

"But until an award of this nature is made, it is hard to understand how significant 
the achievements were and perhaps how significant your own individual part within it 
was. 

"I always enjoyed my time in England and always considered it to be my second home. 

"To achieve the MBE only serves to consolidate those close ties, ties which I hope 
will continue throughout my life." 


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[9] Yonner has too much sherry
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
Shurely, as Sam Allardyce says that he will build an empire like Fergie after 10 
years. 

Nurse! the screens.

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[8] Schmikes gets an MBE - more later
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
Schmikes has been awarded an honorary MBE  - more later

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[7] Some new lies about standing
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
To counter the propaganda and falsehoods being put about by the opposition (to 
standing) here are some that RED NEWS thought of (maybe "thought of" is pushing it a 
bit):

1. Standing is cool - sitting down is for piles.

2. Not only is it cool - standing is also hard. It takes about a year for a baby to 
master it. After that, seating is shunned for safety reasons.

3. Standing is not only safe - its so good it will find a cure for cancer and solve 
world poverty. 

4. It also looks after small fluffy animals that are ill - would you vote for a 
politician who tried to stop that?

5. Letting rip in a football ground after a Friday night out on the ale - it's a 
traditional pastime. Plastic seats have taken the entertainment out of it as the 
culprit is now all too easily identified due to the audible warning signal amplified 
by the adjacent polycarbonate surface. At which point SPS arrive.

6. Standing makes a man's genitals extend measurably. This is actually true but 
unfortunately the effect is only temporary unless, like me, you tie a house brick to 
it and wait for the wind to change.


7. Can't be bothered to think of any more now ... send us your entries to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or post them in the forum (RedTalk > Forum).


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[6] Gregory issues an apology
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by redend:
So shotgun finally turns his weapon on himself. (A neat party trick if you can do this 
but apparently it takes years of yoga practice to avoid putting your back out).

ASTON VILLA manager John Gregory has issued a public apology to Doug Ellis after 
making derogatory comments about his chairman in the media.
 
The two met on Friday after Gregory suggested that Ellis was "stuck in a time-warp", 
which, along with other comments, angered the Villa Park supremo. 

After a humiliating climbdown Gregory left with his tail between his legs (which 
brings us back to the first paragraph?).

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[5] Standing - some rambling thoughts
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[28] Top 5 tonight
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
Man Utd21 47
Arsenal21 39  
Ipswich21 37  
Sunderland 21 36  
Leicester  20 35  

Oh yes, and here's the bottom 5, seeing as you asked!

Derby 21 20 
Coventry  21 20 
Middlesbrough 19 19
Man City  21 19
Bradford  20 12 


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[27] Fergie/Robson on penalty
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"I think he brought him down and the referee waited to see if there was an advantage," 
said Ferguson. "I've seen them given and I've seen them not given. I thought it was 
more of a penalty a minute later when (Nicky) Butt was brought down - but you're not 
going to get two." (as the ref was Mike 'toast of Leeds tonight' Riley!! 

But Robson countered: "I thought it was harsh. Griffin made a little error on the 
first incident and he was clumsy rather than being technically incorrect. He went down 
in stages, Giggs, but he's entitled to do that. He's a clever player and I'm not 
criticising anybody who does that. But a lot of referees would have just turned their 
back on those and said 'play on."

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[26] Robson pleased with point as well
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"When the goal went in, I said to my staff 'that will do me, if we don't lose this 
one, we'll settle for a point,"' he said. 

"And I think at that stage, Alex would have settled for a point as well because he 
would have been thinking that they could lose it. At the end of the day, it was a 
diplomatic result. I think it was fair. We were never out-played, we soldiered on, and 
although they had two great moves in the second-half, on both occasions we got bodies 
behind the ball, people in the box and blocked shots with magnificent defending. We 
had guys who threw themselves in and got us out of trouble when it was on an edge, but 
other than on those two occasions, we did well against them". 


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[25] Fergie - a point gained
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"It's a point gained, I have to say that, a good point," added Ferguson. "I don't 
think many teams will win here.

"They showed an incredible energy and desire, hunted every ball, fought for 
everything, and I don't think we deserved any more than we got.

"The only thing I'm disappointed with - apart from the performance because I think we 
should be better than that - was that we had the chance to finish them off after 
half-time.

"We missed three terrific chances and we've suffered now because of that. If we'd have 
scored the second goal, we'd have won the game comfortably.

"But they always had something to hang on to, Newcastle and the three substitutions 
changed the game for them. They got width on the left-hand side through the lad Glass, 
put (Kieron) Dyer into midfield, and I think they deserved the point fully.

"I think teams will find it very difficult to win up here. I'm surprised they've lost 
a game here this season.

"Yes, it's a good point for us, an excellent point for us."


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[24] Fergie optimistic
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
"I would say that, if we're eight points clear on New Year's Day, the shape of the 
league takes place and then we'll see where the challengers come from," he said.

"But I think we'll improve in the second half. I think there are some things that are 
encouraging, like the return of (Andy) Cole, (Teddy) Sheringham and (Dwight) Yorke, 
for instance.

"(Jaap) Stam, (Ronny) Johnsen, those players are all on their way back, Quinton 
Fortune should be fit for Monday, and when you add it all together, it's a much 
stronger pool of players to choose from."


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[23] FINAL SCORE
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by bar-knee:
Newcastle 1 (Glass 81) 
United 1 (Becks penalty mid-way through first-half)

Arse 2 Sunderland 2 (Arse were 2-0 up)
City 1 Charlton 4 (City second from bottom now)

We are still 8 points clear.

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[22] Not Again!
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Posted Saturday, December 30, 2000 by tb:
As Jack Straw is thinking of doing what Thatcher couldn't - ban away supporters and 
make join official fan clubs. - From the Indy.

Football supporters may be forced to become members of official fan clubs to attend 
away matches, if Government plans come to fruition. 

The move – one of a wide-ranging set of proposals that the Government thinks 
will eradicate racism and xenophobia from the English game – could see a scheme 
introduced not unlike the "identity card" system Margaret Thatcher's proposed in the 
1980s. That idea was pilloried by critics for its 'Big Brother' overtones, but sources 
at W

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[30] Dream on - Part 48767
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
O'Leary: "I remember in the euphoria following our win over Lazio, someone came up to 
me and said 'we can win the Champions League'. I can't do anything about people 
getting carried away like that. We are keen to win a trophy or two as soon as 
possible, but in all honesty I could not give you a date when we'll pick up our first 
silverware."

25 years anyone?

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[29] Not a lot of people know that
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Our crowd of 67,603 last night was the highest Premiership gate ever.

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[28] More from Redknapp
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Other clubs have spent £70million to £80million to try to compete with them but I 
don't think anyone is anywhere near them. When you think they've still got key players 
to come back - Jaap Stam, Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham - it's frightening for everyone 
else."

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[27] Fergie looks at our rivals
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Arsenal, because of the experience they have got, will be a challenger. Sunderland's 
results have been impressive, and when you couple Sunderland with the support base 
they have got they can have a big drive that will keep them going - rather like Leeds 
last season. "When you're winning games the confidence is high and I think they could 
continue to challenge.

Liverpool are a big, strong athletic team and they will keep going. Ipswich keep 
surprising everyone but I think they will be happy to be in the top six and I don't 
see anyone else. It is difficult to come from behind now. We're getting where we are 
because we have a team that has stayed together. We've not made any changes, it's a 
maturing team and their hunger has always been good.

It doesn't concern me about what people say about it being a bad league - it's not a 
bad league. We've had some frights this year and have lost two-goal leads three times. 
So it's not that bad a league."

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[26] Yawn bloody yawn
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Today's, get yer story published by using Posh & Becks

'Posh and Becks could appear on British postage stamps if an expert gets his way. 
Stamp expert Peter Jennings, a Fellow of the Royal Philatelic Society London, wants 
the Royal Mail to scrap the convention that no living people other than the Royal 
Family may appear on them.

Mr Jennings believes popular, 'cool' personalities, like Posh Spice and David Beckham, 
are needed on Royal Mail stamps of the 21st century to attract younger collectors.

The so-called convention has already been flouted when Queen drummer Roger Taylor was 
pictured on a stamp in June 1999 with the late singer Freddie Mercury.'

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[25] Chelsea ticket details
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Chelsea v Manchester United
Stamford Bridge, Saturday 10th February, Kick off 3pm.

We have received an allocation of approximately 3000 tickets priced at £32 adults £11 
under 16's - please note there is no concession for over 65's. Postal applications are 
now being accepted from Season Ticket Holders on production of voucher 34 (duly 
completed), letter of application, open cheque (made payable to MUFC), sae and the 
following 4 match vouchers properly affixed to the official token sheet:31 (RSC 
Anderlecht) 32 (PSV Eindhoven) 33 (Dynamo Kiev) 34 (Panathinaikos).

Private Box/Exec Suite and Club Class Members can also apply in the usual manner 
quoting their facilities held.

All applications need to be received in the Ticket Office no later than 5p.m. on 
Friday 5th January 2001. As we anticipate being heavily oversubscribed a postal ballot 
will be held to determine the successful applicants.'


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[24] Old Fart reaction to Healy transfer
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Posted Tuesday, January 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
The Red News reporter - see Features on this web site - for reserve matches gave us 
this excellent personal insight into the surprising transfer of David Healy.

"I've been wrong before (I said to my dad that Whiteside wouldn't make it  when I saw 
him for the first time in the Youth team!) but I have my doubts  about Healy. Plainly 
the man who's opinion matters, the Wizard, doesn't  think he's good enough for 
Manchester United so that has to be good enough  for me.

I've watched the kid for a few years now, both in the Youth and Reserve  teams, he has 
ability of that there can be no doubt, but, and it is a big  BUT, I have said often 
that I thought that he lacks commitment, that he  always wanted the ball to his feet 
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[1] RED NEWS Daily News by email
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by redend:
We've had a few problems with the RED NEWS Daily News by email as the subscriber list 
is getting a bit large for the script which does the email send out.

Apologies if you have not been getting it regularly (I know how you feel - I've been 
married 5 years) - normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.



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[32] Aberdeen deny Fergie story
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
In an announcement to the Stock Exchange, Aberdeen Football Club plc said:

"An article appeared in The Daily Telegraph of 3 January 2001 concerning the possible 
future involvement of Sir Alex Ferguson in the affairs of the Company. The Board of 
Aberdeen wishes to make it clear that it has had no discussions whatsoever with Sir 
Alex regarding either his engagement in the management of the Club or of his becoming 
an investor in Aberdeen Football Club PLC.'
   
The Telegraph report said: "But The Daily Telegraph has learned that United's 
initiative is about to be challenged by Ferguson's previous club and they are prepared 
to give him a 50.1 percent shareholding if that is what is required to get their man. 
On the alternative investment market, Aberdeen's value is around 7,000,000 pounds 
($10.5 million), so Ferguson would be handed just over half that amount."

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[31] World Exclusive
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
One of our many high profiled sources say United have apparently done a deal with 
Excalibur (now merged to form  Convera) to exploit digital media in the future - 
presumably pictures and audio/video over the internet. The deal has yet to be 
announced to the media.

In December, 2000 Excalibur Technologies merged with Intel's Interactive Media 
Services to create a new company-Convera. Leveraging the strengths of these 
organizations, Convera empowers content owners to quickly, easily and confidently 
extract value from their high-worth digital content inside the enterprise and on the 
Internet.

Remember you read it here at www.rednews.co.uk first...


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[30] Stick to the footie Dwight
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
As the tabloids reports that, once again, topless model Jordan (thanks for the 
mamories) the one with the biggest tits outside of Maine Road, liased with Dwight 
Yorke after our game on Monday. 

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[29] Leeds player pleads guilty
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Former Leeds striker Tony Yeboah has been convicted of evading £738,000 of tax in a 
German court. Yeboah, who currently plays for Hamburg, was fined £130,000, after 
prosecutors told the court that his former club Eintracht Frankfurt had used a 
fictitious promotional contract to avoid tax payments in 1993.'

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[28] And Joe Royle said
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I decided that we needed warriors in the side and that's why I brought Andy Morrison 
in as much as anything."

(don't you mean large rotound people?)

"I know that nothing fazes Andy. I know there is a big question mark over his fitness 
at this level but playing between two centre-halves he can handle it because he's a 
superb footballer."

(er, don't you mean fat git?)

"He is a great organiser and for whatever reason he's hardly played in the Premier 
League before now. He should have been a Premiership player with his assets for ten 
years. He knows the game inside out and is very clever in that middle position of a 
back three. He's short of match fitness but we have to look after him - and make sure 
he's fit for next weekend."


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[27] United players banned from internationals
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Posted Wednesday, January 3, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Ronny Johnsen have placed their international careers in 
jeopardy by failing to agree a sponsorship deal with Norwegian football's governing 
body. Solskjaer and Johnsen, along with Spurs striker Steffen Iversen, have refused to 
sign the £25million deal because they would then be precluded from signing other, 
possibly more lucrative, individual sponsorship contracts.'

"We are both surprised and disappointed that some of the players don't want to be with 
us in the future, but there are important principals at stake here and we have no 
choice," said Norwegian footie chief Per Ravn Omdal.

"This is not a very good situation for us, but I hope that more players will not 
follow these three. A few cannot ruin the financing of the entire national team. The 
players knew the consequences."

Tore Andre Flo, Eirik Bakke, Vegard Heggem and Thomas Myhre are as yet undecided on 
who to follow.

'Coca Cola, Umbro and Compaq are among the companies who have ploughed money into the 
sponsorship package - but only on the understanding that all players sign up to it.'

Iverson said: "I would like to reach an agreement with them, but the way they have 
tried to force us to sign is unbelievably stupid. It is very important for me to play 
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[37] The best fans in the world ..
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...turn up in their 100's

Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by redend:

Just announced on GMR - city have tickets left for their FA Cup game against 
Birmingham at the weekend. In fact, they have so many left that there will be payment 
at the turnstyles into the Kippax! 



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[36] Why Cardiff for FA Cup?
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Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by redend:
Why pick Cardiff for the FA Cup finals? Not that we've got anything against it.

But did placing the finals in Cardiff have anything to do with avoiding building 
support for holding finals at any other English venues? OK its an outrageous 
suggestion - but we could actually hold some events outside London - especially after 
the massive successes of the Dome, the Wobbly Bridge & the River of Fire - not to 
mention the Wheel of Fortune (is it ready, & do you want to stay up there all night?). 
And New Wembley is a textbook example of a well planned project too isn't it? 

Manchester has previously hosted a final but I doubt if the Fallowfield stadium is up 
to it now - a billion quids worth of lottery money please? 
Grants Meister: "Are you in London?"
Mancunian Beggar: "No"
Grants Meister: "£uck off then"



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[35] Wombles to be shafted?
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Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by redend:
NEW FOOTBALL once again riding roughshod over tradition in the pursuit of a profit for 
the snouts in the trough (oink - I am a Manchester United shareholder).

Today's Evening Standard has a story claiming that Wimbledon FC are seriously 
considering a move to Milton Keynes.

There is a quote from the Dons Chairman saying: "Milton Keynes has a lot to offer 
[concrete cows ?] and looks like the most realistic option.[Apart from moving back 
to your own ground!!??] We have a responsibility to our loyal supporter base [which we 
may ignore] but they have to be rational [ok - we will ignore it]."

Its little different from the American sporting franchises where they just uproot a 
club (and rename it) and move it to another city. Another example of "The customer is 
always right - but you're not the right customer!"


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[34] The crap man from west 'am he say no
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Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by bar-knee:
Even Lomas doesn't want to play for city...

"I'm settled here and have never asked for a transfer. There have been teams in for me 
before and I have never once banged on Harry's door. There was something in the press 
about my wife not being settled which can't be further from the truth. She loves it 
down here, I love it down here, so it's out of order to say that really. At the end of 
the day I wouldn't have signed a five-year contract if I didn't think I could honour 
it, and that's what I intend to do. nless the club tell me any different I am more 
than happy to be at West Ham and proud to play for them. I think Manchester City are 
looking to spend a bit of money to get themselves out of trouble but I've not really 
had any contact. Manchester City was a big part of my career and I enjoyed my time 
there, apart from the last seven or eight months, but I've moved on from that: they 
chose to get rid of me, I never asked for a transfer."

In other words - not even the captain of the Titanic would ask to transfer to another 
sinking ship again.


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[33] Next 3 Finals at Cardiff in fact
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Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by bar-knee:
FA chief executive Adam Crozier said: "The negotiations that preceded this 
announcement have been lengthy and complex. We're grateful to the stadium authorities, 
local council and the police for their help in reaching a successful conclusion. As we 
saw during the Rugby World Cup in 1999, the Millennium Stadium generates a unique 
atmosphere - the kind of atmosphere we believe is ideal for the FA Cup final and 
Charity Shield."

Shame that the pitch is such a bog of shite!

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[32] Healy deal finally sorted
-
Posted Thursday, January 4, 2001 by bar-knee:
David healy has completed his £1.5 million transfer to Preston on a four-and-a- 
half-year contract at Deepdale.

"I am pleased to just finally get it all sorted an I am happy to be  here," Healy told 
the official Preston website. "I was interested 
straight away as soon as I knew. I sort of knew that Preston were interested, but the 
gaffer at  Manchester United keeps things to himself. He told me that David Moyes was 
a good manager and that the club was going places, that  there was a lot of young 
talent and was he happy to let me go here.

It's not difficult to leave Manchester United, because I knew I  wasn't going to get 
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[44] Fergie apparently in Italy tomorrow
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
Italian press quoted as saying: "We have just received confirmation 
from an official at Vicenza" that Sir Alex Ferguson will watch Bari play and the 
Italian 'superkid' in action.



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[43] Norwegian update
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
NFA director of information Roger Solheim has said: "If the players are thinking about 
a sponsor deal, we will need to sit down with them and find a solution. It should be 
okay for them to agree for products that are not in competition with our partners and 
sponsors." 

The Norway manager met Ole on Thursday and Ole said: "We spoke about games we have 
played and games that are coming up. Hopefully I can perform well enough for United to 
get picked." 

Semb his national coach, said: "We took a look at the past, the present and the 
future. I hope that the can solve it so I can pick players from the top shelf"

(thought that was only dirty mags that came from there?)

Brugge's Norwegian coach Trond Sollied got involved - why - by adding: "It is a shame 
that it has come to this, but it is no catastrophe that these players are banned. It 
is very clear that this is a money issue. Tore Andre Flo has even been dropped from 
the team, and Ronny Johnsen has not been playing much because he is injured all the 
time.  Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been very much up and down, although he is good when 
he gets to play up front. Steffen Iversen has also been poor. 

My team would be: Frode Olsen; Christer Basma, Henning Berg, Erik Hoftun, Andre 
Bergdolmo; Magne Hoseth, Bent Skammelsrud, Roar Strand; Thorstein Helstad, John Carew, 
Oyvind Leonhardsen. You would not see the difference." 

And who asked you anyway...

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[42] Large number of forgeries around
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
According to the police as they say between 300-600 tickets are floating around for 
our game on Sunday. Bizarre - who would have thought it for a 5,500 allocation.

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[41] Lomas doesn't want to go - but city are still trying!
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
city's chief operating officer Chris Bird said: "They said yesterday that they had 
accepted our offer, but we've had no official response from West Ham. Once we get that 
we will start talks with Steve and that will probably be some time over the weekend."

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[40] We're all off to sunny, er, Belgium
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
John O'Shea and Jimmy Davis have joined Royal Antwerp for three months on loan.

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[39] Scholes - try and match us ABUs
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
"We aren't going to take our foot off the pedal - in fact we want to press this lead 
on now. It's just someone's opinion that we have made it boring, but it is up to other 
teams to get better and beat us.

We have had some tough games against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea. It's 
just that we have been more consistent than the others. The likes of Liverpool and 
Arsenal have dropped some silly points.

This is a massive club and people demand that you win. If you want to stay here and be 
successful, you have to be a winner. We don't really need motivating - the manager may 
do it every now and again, but these players don't particularly need it.

We have a reminder from three years ago, when we had a 12-point gap, so I think that 
will keep driving us on. We know that Arsenal aren't finished yet and are more than 
capable of coming with a good run so, hopefully, we aim to win every game."

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[38] Fergie on Barthez flu
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Fabien has been really bad for a week. He was suffering at Newcastle and against West 
Ham. I told him to get to his bed for a few days to see if he could get rid of it but 
he phoned last night to say he was still bad. The doc has been out today to look at 
him and he's got a really bad dose of it. It's a blow but Raimond Van der Gouw will 
come in."

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[37] Barthez out for Sunday with flu
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Posted Friday, January 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
So who will take his place?

Barthez is out of Sunday's game with flu. Raimond van der Gouw is expected to come in 
though.

Team (from): van der Gouw, P Neville, G Neville, Brown, Silvestre,
Beckham, Keane, Butt, Giggs, Solskjaer, Yorke, Sheringham, Scholes,
Fortune, Irwin, Wallwork, Chadwick, Greening, Bosnich/Rachubka.


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[36] Dwight on Fulham
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[25] Yorkie on Saha (the last mention, honest!)
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
"Fantastic," said Yorke. "He's scored nearly 20 goals already this season. 

"Obviously we have got to respect the way they play, but if we play to our full 
potential then we don't need any sort of encouragement to go out and play. 

"We want to win every game, even though we know it's going to be very difficult. We 
are determined to go out there and get a result." 



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[24] Yorkie wants revenge too
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
"The FA Cup is just special," he said. "The FA Cup is always special and it's just 
something we want to win after being excluded last year. 


"We would have liked to have defended it, but that was down to the plc of Manchester 
United. 

"We are their employees and we just go out there and play wherever they want us to 
play. 

"But due to certain circumstances that wasn't allowed. 

"We've got a chance to get it back this year and that's what we want to do." 



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[23] Do you feel lucky?
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
Well do you?

SIR ALEX FERGUSON has become almost a one-man betting industry after 
steering Manchester United towards another treble. 

The Mirror's exclusive this week that Celtic boss Martin O'Neill is 
coveted as Fergie's successor saw Hills slash the the Irishman to 7-2 
second-favourite (behind Steve McLaren at 2-1) to be the next Old 
Trafford guv'nor. 

Fergie is 16-1 to complete a second treble in three years, and just 5-
4 to lead United to a title triumph by a record 19 points or more. 

United, with 51 goals from 22 Premiership matches, are just 2-1 to 
reach the 100 milestone, even though they have only 16 games left. 

Give that one a wide berth, especially as towards the end of the 
season more than half-a-dozen teams will be battling for their lives. 

For the dreamers, and Liverpool fans, Fergie is 10-1 to win nowt. 

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[23] Wenger talks up Tigana
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
"He has pushed through his vision of football and stuck to it," said 
Wenger 

"He has an eye for a player and an ability to spot talent and make 
use of them. He is also a big enough name to attract top players. 
That will make Fulham a dangerous team in the Premiership." 

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[22] Talk like an Egyptian
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
As Al Fayed "Football is like the finest malt whisky," he said. "It can take you 
away to another world. There is no finer form of escape. In Egypt 
before the revolution, the passion for the game was just as great as 
it is here. 

"For me to have a ball at my feet was like breathing. It was natural. 
When I was 14, I thought I was the best player in the world, a great 
centre forward scoring goals like no tomorrow. No-one could stop me 
in those days." (after how many bottles of Malt was this!)

The odd million aside, little has changed. Loaded though Al Fayed may 
be, he rubbished reports of a pounds 50,000 bet on a Fulham victory 
tomorrow. 

He wouldn't even dare suggest a score, preferring to leave such 
matters in the hands of Allah. "All I hope is that on the day, Allah 
is Egyptian." 

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[21] Part time supporters
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
Or are they refugees from the Bates Motel?

Al Fayed is just where he likes to be this weekend, at the centre of 
the universe. The visit of United is the perfect showcase for him and 
his team, a no-lose occasion during which all eyes will be focused on 
him and his vibrant enterprise. 

He promises fireworks along the Thames, Scottish pipers, celebrities 
in the stands, a day to remember for all the right reasons. 

"It is an honour to welcome a club like United to Craven Cottage, a 
matter of great personal pride for me. The result is not the issue. 
That the game has been moved to Sunday with all the interest in it is 
a mark of how far this club has come. 

"When I took over we had barely 4,000 fans at home games. We could 
get 50,000 in now. We play to win, of course, and with luck things 
will go our way, but the future of this club does not rest on the 
result of tomorrow's game. The picture is much, much bigger for us." 


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[20] Fantasy Pharoh
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
As Al Fayed spouts:

'My dream is to take us beyond United and be best in Europe' 
MOHAMED AL FAYED has spent more than pounds 70million on making 
Fulham certainties for the Premiership and tomorrow his runaway First 
Division leaders will get a taste of the future his money has bought. 

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[36] 3rd round results
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
No major shocks apart from Charlton scraping a draw with Dagenham & Redbridge. Even 
City failed to live up to their reputation (only just mind - 3-0 up at half time!)

Blackburn 2 Chester 0   
Bolton 2 Yeovil 1 
Bournemouth 2 Gillingham 3 
Burnley 2 Scunthorpe 2  
Cardiff 1 Crewe 1 
Carlisle 0 Arsenal 1 
Charlton 1 Dag & Red 1 
Chelsea 5 Peterborough 0 
Derby 3 West Brom 2
Huddersfield 0 Bristol City 2 
Leeds 1 Barnsley 0
Leicester 3 York 0 
Leyton Orient 0 Tottenham 1 
Liverpool 3 Rotherham 0
Luton 3 QPR 3 
Man City 3 Birmingham 2 
Morecambe 0 Ipswich 3
Portsmouth 1 Tranmere 2 
Preston 0 Stockport 1 
Sheff Wed 2 Norwich 1 
Southampton 1 Sheff Utd 0 
Southend 0 Kingstonian 1 
Sunderland 0 Crystal Palace 0 
Swindon 0 Coventry 2 
Walsall 2 West Ham 3 
Watford 1 Everton 2 
Wimbledon 2 Notts County 2 
Wycombe 1 Grimsby 1 


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[35] Robbo after Denis?
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
Could just be the usual Teamtalk tactics so read with care!

Middlesbrough have been linked with a summer move for Denis Irwin and the player who 
wants his Old Trafford place - Australian Brett Emerton. 

Terry Venables is believed to have agreed with Bryan Robson that they should make a 
move for the 35-year-old when his current United contract expires at the end of the 
season. 
Irwin has signed one-year extensions to his contract for the last three seasons, but 
sources claim he has come to the conclusion that this year will be his last at the 
club.
 
The emergence of Mickael Silvestre as the manager's favourite for the left-back slot 
and the increased competition for the right back role has left Irwin to consider his 
options - one of which is a lucrative Bosman-style move in the summer. 

Sir Alex Ferguson has said he wants the Republic of Ireland star to remain and there 
have been talks between the club and his agent, but Irwin has never left it this late 
in a season to sign before. 
If the reports are true that the Teesiders are ready to offer him a £30,000-a-week 
deal when he is out of contract in June - then he could be strongly tempted to join 
his old pal Robson at the Riverside. 


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[34] The Fergie Italian job latest
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
Reports in Italy claim Sir Alex Ferguson has arrived to watch Bari's Antonio Cassano - 
but English sources say his brother has gone instead. 

The manager's brother, Martin Ferguson, is United's European scout and has been 
keeping close tabs on the 18-year-old for the past two seasons. 

It was reported earlier this week that Sir Alex would be making a personal check this 
weekend, when Bari are away at Vicenza today, but the boss might have changed his mind 
after his trip became public knowledge. 

United will also reportedly watch Atalanta midfielder Cristiano Doni, who would cost 
nothing in the summer, against league leaders Roma on Sunday. 

The 27-year-old midfielder is yet to sign a new contract with the Nerazzurri and is 
currently stalling on signing a new deal. 
United were reported to be watching 22-year-old Atalanta striker Fausto Rossini 
earlier this season. 

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[33] Early team news
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Posted Saturday, January 6, 2001 by tb:
Paul Scholes and Denis Irwin are set to shake off knocks and join Teddy Sheringham in 
contention for a start against Fulham tomorrow.  
All three travel to London for the FA Cup third round tie which Sir Alex Ferguson is 
taking very seriously. 

The United boss will field his strongest possible side with Raimond van der Gouw 
deputising for flu-ridden first choice keeper Fabien Barthez. 
Sheringham may start on the bench after a 60-minute workout against Wrexham on 
Thursday, where he immediately rediscovered his scoring touch. Luke Chadwick is back 
after a one-match suspension. 


Fulham are ravaged by injury and suspension problems and their midfield has been hit 
the hardest. 
Sean Davis is banned while John Collins (hamstring) and Lee Clark (Achilles) are 
doubtful and Wayne Collins is out. 
Barry Hayles, second top scorer behind Louis Saha, has a problem with his ankle and 
insists he will not be fit. 
He said: "I can barely walk on it at the moment let alone run, so I can't see any 
chance of it healing in time. 
''It's a big blow for me but there's nothing I can do." 

The Cottagers' captain Chris Coleman is out for the season after the horrific car 
crash injuries he sustained this week and will be replaced by hapless ex-Man City 
defender Kit Symons (Aren't they all?). 
Kick-off, don't forget, is at 1pm (GMT). 
United (probable): van der Gouw, P.Neville, G.Neville, Brown, Irwin (or Silvestre), 
Keane, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Yorke, Solskjaer. 
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[13] Are we killing football?
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
Is the headline in the Indy. There follows the following discusion between an Indy 
Journo and Alex Fynn.

JOHN LICHFIELD Manchester United-baiting and hating has reached a new crescendo of 
illogic. A year ago, we were being asked to detest England's most successful football 
club because they had withdrawn from the FA Cup and flown to Brazil (at the request of 
the Football Association). This January, we are supposed to hate United because they 
are cantering towards their third Premiership title in succession (and their seventh 
in nine years). 

I must declare an interest. I've been a Man Utd fan for 46 years. The billion-pound, 
multinational corporation of 2001 is not the club I watched home and away in the 1960s 
and 1970s. They have knocked down the Old Trafford I adored and replaced it with a 
soulless mega-stadium, appended to a shopping mall. But all of football has changed. 
The terraces have gone. Money and television rule. This is not just a United problem. 

ALEX FYNN The happy coincidence of the advent of the Premiership which changed the way 
football is structured, financed and presented, and the emergence of Man Utd as 
box-office stars has made football into showbusiness. On one level their quality of 
play has even their critics applauding, but there is concern that their monopoly will 
devalue the Premiership. With the compliance of BSkyB, the Premiership has become the 
only competition that matters in English football, and as a showcase it cannot afford 
to be dominated by one club alone. Football is both a live event but more important in 
terms of its popularity, a television spectacular. And the omens are not good, with 
television audiences falling. If this trend continues and television loses interest 
the whole edifice will crumble. 

JL It is a peculiarly British kind of logic that suggests English football is being 
undermined by the excellence of its most successful, skilful and hard-working team. Is 
Tiger Woods destroying golf? Is Pete Sampras undermining tennis? 

I reject the argument that United's success is something abnormal; something stolen 
from all the other clubs; something destructive. What about Liverpool's domination of 
the 1970s and 1980s? 

AF United can only be called a great team when they have extended their domestic 
dominance to Europe. To date they have underperformed. They have yet to match the 
record of Liverpool or even Nottingham Forest. Only when they spent £25m on Jaap Stam, 
Dwight Yorke and Jesper Blomqvist did they achieve the treble in 1999. But they have 
subsequently fallen short, outspent by the megaclubs of Spain and Italy which have 
prioritised success for their fans rather than dividends for their shareholders. 

JL Manchester United, the PLC, is a well-run business, perhaps the best-run sporting 
business in the world. That does not guarantee anything for the team. Victory does not 
follow wealth in football (just look at United's record between 1968 and 1993). 

AF What Manchester United do have is exceptional brand value. Their heritage of 
triumph, tragedy and glamour gives them an appeal on a worldwide basis that no other 
sporting club has. Butif we are going to halt the United bandwagon the ability to raid 
the transfer market with impunity should be limited to before and once during the 
season. That would prevent rich clubs like United attempting to buy success. 

JL Of the 14 players used by United in their last league game, nine had come up though 
the club's youth teams. Sir Alex Ferguson has spent a fortune on a few star players in 
recent years, but not significantly more than Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal or Leeds 
(and far less than European rivals, such as Real Madrid or Lazio). 

AF True. Ferguson's far-sighted investment in youth will continue to pay dividends. 
The players show exceptional commitment. They've grown up together so we have the 
unique situation in English football of talented young players at the summit of their 
art who will dominate the game domestically for the next decade. 

JL United have played well this season but their points total just after the half-way 
point – 50 – is about the level any championship-seeking club needs to 
reach. Their nearest rivals have 39 points, well below championship pace. United are 
walking away with the Premiership (again) because the other contenders have constantly 
fallen flat against the weaker teams. Is this United's fault? 

AF Things would change if there was a second division to the Premiership. Clubs and 
players would move up and down the system. The chasm between the Premiership and the 
rest would be lessened, raising the standard of play and leading to more competitive 
club football. 



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[12] Getting their priorities right
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[13] Are we killing football?
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
Is the headline in the Indy. There follows the following discusion between an Indy 
Journo and Alex Fynn.

JOHN LICHFIELD Manchester United-baiting and hating has reached a new crescendo of 
illogic. A year ago, we were being asked to detest England's most successful football 
club because they had withdrawn from the FA Cup and flown to Brazil (at the request of 
the Football Association). This January, we are supposed to hate United because they 
are cantering towards their third Premiership title in succession (and their seventh 
in nine years). 

I must declare an interest. I've been a Man Utd fan for 46 years. The billion-pound, 
multinational corporation of 2001 is not the club I watched home and away in the 1960s 
and 1970s. They have knocked down the Old Trafford I adored and replaced it with a 
soulless mega-stadium, appended to a shopping mall. But all of football has changed. 
The terraces have gone. Money and television rule. This is not just a United problem. 

ALEX FYNN The happy coincidence of the advent of the Premiership which changed the way 
football is structured, financed and presented, and the emergence of Man Utd as 
box-office stars has made football into showbusiness. On one level their quality of 
play has even their critics applauding, but there is concern that their monopoly will 
devalue the Premiership. With the compliance of BSkyB, the Premiership has become the 
only competition that matters in English football, and as a showcase it cannot afford 
to be dominated by one club alone. Football is both a live event but more important in 
terms of its popularity, a television spectacular. And the omens are not good, with 
television audiences falling. If this trend continues and television loses interest 
the whole edifice will crumble. 

JL It is a peculiarly British kind of logic that suggests English football is being 
undermined by the excellence of its most successful, skilful and hard-working team. Is 
Tiger Woods destroying golf? Is Pete Sampras undermining tennis? 

I reject the argument that United's success is something abnormal; something stolen 
from all the other clubs; something destructive. What about Liverpool's domination of 
the 1970s and 1980s? 

AF United can only be called a great team when they have extended their domestic 
dominance to Europe. To date they have underperformed. They have yet to match the 
record of Liverpool or even Nottingham Forest. Only when they spent £25m on Jaap Stam, 
Dwight Yorke and Jesper Blomqvist did they achieve the treble in 1999. But they have 
subsequently fallen short, outspent by the megaclubs of Spain and Italy which have 
prioritised success for their fans rather than dividends for their shareholders. 

JL Manchester United, the PLC, is a well-run business, perhaps the best-run sporting 
business in the world. That does not guarantee anything for the team. Victory does not 
follow wealth in football (just look at United's record between 1968 and 1993). 

AF What Manchester United do have is exceptional brand value. Their heritage of 
triumph, tragedy and glamour gives them an appeal on a worldwide basis that no other 
sporting club has. Butif we are going to halt the United bandwagon the ability to raid 
the transfer market with impunity should be limited to before and once during the 
season. That would prevent rich clubs like United attempting to buy success. 

JL Of the 14 players used by United in their last league game, nine had come up though 
the club's youth teams. Sir Alex Ferguson has spent a fortune on a few star players in 
recent years, but not significantly more than Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal or Leeds 
(and far less than European rivals, such as Real Madrid or Lazio). 

AF True. Ferguson's far-sighted investment in youth will continue to pay dividends. 
The players show exceptional commitment. They've grown up together so we have the 
unique situation in English football of talented young players at the summit of their 
art who will dominate the game domestically for the next decade. 

JL United have played well this season but their points total just after the half-way 
point – 50 – is about the level any championship-seeking club needs to 
reach. Their nearest rivals have 39 points, well below championship pace. United are 
walking away with the Premiership (again) because the other contenders have constantly 
fallen flat against the weaker teams. Is this United's fault? 

AF Things would change if there was a second division to the Premiership. Clubs and 
players would move up and down the system. The chasm between the Premiership and the 
rest would be lessened, raising the standard of play and leading to more competitive 
club football. 



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[12] Getting their priorities right
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[26] 4th Round in full
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
To be played over 27-29 Jan

Manchester United v West Ham 

Sunderland/Crystal Palace v Ipswich 

Gillingham v Chelsea 

Bradford/Middlesbrough v Wimbledon/Notts County 

Bristol City v Kingstonian 

Bolton v Burnley/Scunthorpe 

Blackburn v Derby 

Manchester City v Coventry 

Cardiff/Crewe v Stockport 

Southampton v Sheff Wed 

Wycombe/Grimsby v Wolves 

Charlton/Dag-Red v Tottenham 

Leeds v Liverpool 

Everton v Tranmere 

Luton/QPR v Arsenal 

Newcastle/Aston Villa v Leicester 


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[25] Ole prepared for the drop
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:

"I am mentally prepared to be dropped again."

"The recent goals are very satisfying to me but, at a club like United, you always 
have to be prepared to be left out. The competition is so tough and your record does 
not mean anything. All that counts is what you can deliver at the moment." 

I feel my position is a little bit stronger now.

"I feel more comfortable and I'm in a better situation than I have been in a long 
time. I just had to grab the chance with both hands when I finally got it.

"This is the way Teddy Sheringham forced his way into the side when everyone was 
writing him off.

"He was just so exceptionally good that, in the end, it was impossible to leave him 
out. I hope I can achieve the same.

"And I hope now that it will be very difficult to drop me from the side."



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[24] Fergie confirms players determination
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
"Fulham have probably played better and so have we but it was a gripping cup tie and I 
couldn't see a winner.

"The FA Cup is what you saw today. It is sudden death and anything can happen. Teams 
can hope and dream.

"I'm not banking on us winning the FA Cup as the Premier League is our best chance, 
but if we have a good run and have some home ties then we will do our best to win the 
trophy.

"At the moment, we're just happy to be in it. I think the players again showed their 
hunger today. They would like to do well in the FA Cup."


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[23] Fergie hails Teddy
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
"We would have been happy with a replay but it was a fantastic goal by Teddy.

"He is having an incredible season and we're grateful to him. But he's been doing that 
ever since he came to us."


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[22] Ex bar code Lee Clarke on result
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
"I think we've showed the country that if we achieve our dream and get into the 
Premiership we can stick it," he said.

"We played well but it just shows if you give quality teams a few seconds and they 
punish you and that's what happened today.

"We enjoyed it and are just a little disappointed to lose it right at the end."



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[21] Teddy post match comments
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
"When you can't play because you're injured it's the worst time," he said.

"I was only given 15 minutes today but the win was a great result. We know that teams 
want to beat us but you keep driving on when you're at Manchester United.

"We fully expected a tough game. It was a tricky little pitch and it was difficult for 
us at times."



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[20] UFO man to return 
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
"For certain," the man who so nearly took charge of that other United, Manchester, 
insists. "I will always retain links with the football world. If you're a supporter of 
the Knighton philosophy I will be casting my magic elsewhere; if you're a detractor of 
mine, casting my evil spell. I fancy non-League next time." 

No, I didn't understand the last bit either!!

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[19] TV dictates
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Posted Sunday, January 7, 2001 by tb:
Fans have reacted with dismay to the decision to move Manchester United's Premiership 
clash with Arsenal to the same day as the Worthington Cup Final.

United's meeting with Arsenal at Old Trafford has been put back a day to Sunday, 
February 25, so that the game can be shown live on television.

The new date means the game will kick off just a couple of hours before the 
Worthington Cup Final and will no doubt overshadow the first showpiece match at 
Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

Liverpool are also due to play Chelsea at Anfield that afternoon, although that match 
would be postponed if Gerard Houllier's side reach the Worthington Cup Final.

Ian Todd, chairman of the National Federation of Football Supporters Clubs, questioned 
the wisdom of the move, but felt there was little fans could do about it.

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[31] Fergie in sex capital
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
Midas Soccer report that Fergie arrived in Stockholm late on Sunday, flying out after 
the Fulham game.

Sir Alex had a late dinner with AIK marketing manager Per Smedberg, and, on Monday, 
addressed a seminar for leaders in football - about 100 of them all told.

Fergie said:" don't do this very much. This is probably something I will try to do 
more in the future, when I've stopped managing. At the moment I don't find that I've 
the energy to do it, but when I was asked to do this, it felt like something I would 
be pleased to do" 

AIK made the arrangements, in conjunction with UEFA President Lennart Johansson.

"I have the utmost respect for Lennart Johansson, and it was one of the main reasons 
for me saying yes to come here. Sweden is very important to me. I won my first 
European trophy in Gothenburg, with Aberdeen, and I have several very good friends in 
Sweden, and I feel a big warmth with the Swedish people. I'm still very good friends 
with Ørjan Persson who played for Sweden. We have kept contact for twenty years." 

Fergie also spoke about Jesper's injury: "He is training and I am very hopeful. He has 
been very unlucky, and that's too bad. He's really a first class bloke. I believe in 
him, but Jesper hasn't played in several years and he must come back both physically 
and mentally, and one can't do that in a month. It takes a long time."

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[30] 3-legged elephant receiving death threats
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
Its not Jan Molby and Neil Ruddock in a 3 legged race - although it could be. 

A Thai elephant maimed by an exploding landmine has become the target of death 
threats. Motola drew sympathy and donations from around the world after having a foot 
amputated following an explosion in 1999. 

But her keeper says she is now getting phone calls from people saying they want the 
39-year-old elephant dead. [Does she speak to them on the elephone? - SMACK!]

Soraida Salwala, who founded the world's first elephant hospital, believes elephant 
traders and other Thai animal welfare organisations are responsible because they are 
jealous of the donations and publicity Motola's plight has brought. 

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[29] Cole and Stam to play West Ham
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
Jaap Stam and Andy Cole will be back in time for the FA Cup tie with West Ham in two 
weeks and may even make the squad for Bradford. 

After their run out at Wrexham they'll have another game behind closed doors at 
Carrington this week.

Jaap hopes to be back for the Villa game a week on Saturday.

Coley may have more trouble getting back in with Ole and Teddy finding the back of the 
net so regularly at the moment.

Yorkie is also finding the competition stiff [fnaar] with Solskjaer scoring 5 in 5, 
and Teddy getting his 16th of the season on Sunday.

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[28] West Ham Cup tie ITV-jacked
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
United will play West Ham in the FA Cup fourth round on Sunday 28 January, kick off 
2pm. The match will be screened live on ITV. 

Probably the preference of GM Police too bearing in mind the long history of aggro 
between the two sets of fans. And with all the extra West Ham that will turn up for 
the large allocation allowed in the cup at OT they'd no doubt prefer to make it 
earlier - and on a Sunday - to cut down on drinking.

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[27] Fab back at Bradford
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
Fabien will be back in goal for United at Bradford this weekend after recovering from 
flu which kept him out against Fulham. 

Fabien played against West Ham even though he was "absolutely loaded with the bug". 
and Fergie kept the goalkeeper's illness a secret until Friday lunchtime to give him 
time to recover but he couldn't make it against Fulham.


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[26] Wes suspension - its Villa
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
Teamtalk confirm that its the Villa clash (not West Ham in the cup) that Wes will miss 
due to collecting 5 bookings.

The Jaapster will be back by then though.  

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[25] Early Psycho revenge
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by redend:
We could enjoy sweet revenge on Stuart Pearce earlier than expected after his cheeky 
kisses gesture towards the Stretford End at the end of West Ham's recent spanking at 
OT. 

Pearce is desperate to win the FA Cup - a trophy he has never got his hands on and he 
wants to put that right this season, maybe his last chance at 38. 

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[35] Van man latest
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by tb:
"He is on a holiday," Van Raaij (PSV coach) explained. "He is doing fine. It was now 
time to take a break and go on a vacation, according to his programme. 

"After the holiday, he hopes to start training on the pitch again at a very short 
notice, before he can return to the squad. So I expect him back in March," Van Raaij 
stated. 


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[34] Kings of comedy  latest
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by tb:
Stockport County boss Andy Kilner has confirmed that Manchester City have made no 
fresh contact with regard to Hatters goalkeeper Carlo Nash. (Mr Potato Head probably 
still on the phone waiting for Lomas to make a decision)

Kilner was furious over the weekend after news of City's initial inquiry about the 
want-away keeper was passed to the media shortly before the important FA Cup tie with 
Preston.

At the time Kilner said: "I was flabbergasted that someone at City has gone and told 
the radio and the newspapers that it has all been sorted out."

You may be flabergasted Andy, but it surprises us not a jot


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[33] Stapleton: - Leave Ole in
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by tb:
"When you're scoring goals like he's been doing then you're making a good case to be 
left in, no matter who's fit," said Stapleton. 

"The manager has kept people in when they have done well and even though they may not 
have started every game, they've played when the big games have come round. 

"Teddy Sheringham is back and he was first choice before he was injured. 

"Teddy has only missed a few games and he has had a hamstring injury which is quite 
different to Andy Cole, who has had an operation. 

"Who knows how long it will take for him to fully recover? 

"In the meantime, Solskjaer has come in and taken his chance and he's the man scoring 
the goals at the minute. There's no doubt he's there on merit. 

"I don't think it's as straight forward as some people may think and I'm not sure that 
Solskjaer will be left out right away. 

"The manager has rotated his strikers very well and it's not been a case where he has 
a first-choice striker who he's continued to pick even though he hasn't played well 
for a few games. 

"Instead he puts someone else in and he goes with the strikers who are
scoring goals. 

"That way the strikers keep each other going and that's great for the team." 


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[32]  Where are you when we're not here?
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Posted Monday, January 8, 2001 by tb:
As only 30,000 turn up at Anfield, with 7,000 Rotherham fans as well.



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[27] Swede on trial
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Posted Tuesday, January 9, 2001 by tb:
Young Swedish prodigy Colo Halit from the Superettan club Brage is set to arrive at 
Old Trafford for a trial. 
The 15-year-old youngster will train with the Premiership giants for a week and play 
one trial game with United. 
"It will be a great adventure for me", Colo Halit said told his local newspaper in 
Borlänge. 
The young midfielder plays with the Brage youth team and the junior team and is also 
in the first team squad in the Superettan. 

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[26] More practice for Jaap and Andy
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Posted Tuesday, January 9, 2001 by tb:
United have arranged a friendly with Burnley for tomorrow night as the likes of Jaap 
Stam and Andy Cole continue their comebacks from injury. 
The move follows last week's trip to Wrexham, when United used the hastily-arranged 
fixture as a practice match for several of their returning stars to regain some 
much-needed match fitness. 
However, unlike at the Racecourse Ground, the clash at Turf Moor will be behind closed 
doors. 

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[25] Norwegians still in the wood
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Posted Tuesday, January 9, 2001 by tb:
Manchester United pair Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Ronny Johnsen remain in the dark over 
their international futures with Norway.

Steffen Iversen of Tottenham and Rangers' Tore Andre Flo as well as the two United 
players are likely to find out later this week if their suspensions have been lifted.

The Norwegian football association (NFF) have imposed the bans on the quartet for 
failing to sign a new sponsorship contract. The situation seemed to have been resolved 
late when the players union brokered a deal.

But at the 11th hour the NFF president Per Ravn Omdal refused to sign the agreement, 
saying he must first talk to his board.

Omdal was due to host a news conference at a hotel adjacent to Manchester Airport on 
Tuesday. Instead he flew back to Norway for top-level talks, and general secretary 
Karen Espelund took the chair.

Morgan Andersen, secretary of the Norwegian Professional Footballers' Association, is 
quietly confident Omdal will get the backing he needs.

"We had already shaken hands on the deal when the president told us he wanted to 
obtain the permission of the board," said Andersen.

"I intend to call him in the morning, and hopefully all our questions will be answered 
correctly. We have faith in the president.

"We've had good negotiations and have the documentation that solves all the problems. 
All the players ruled out by the FA will come back and play for Norway."

The root of the problem lies over commercial rights and whether they belong to the 
player or the country.

Espelund said: "We have hopefully clarified some misunderstandings with the players 
and are optimistic we can reach an agreement.

"The talks have been very constructive, and perhaps in a couple of days the matter 
will be resolved."

Blackburn defender Henning Berg, the players' spokesman, believes the public debate 
and the public outcry over the bans could have been avoided.

"This problem could have been handled better," he said.

"We can't have a situation where the sponsors or the marketing people dictate who can 
play for Norway."


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[24] Mickey speaks
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Posted Tuesday, January 9, 2001 by tb:
Thanks to our French operative for this

" When Alex Ferguson called me to join United, I was happy, proud and excited to know 
that he really wanted me."

-" My first impression was that it was really easy to integrate myself in this 
team(...) I did not felt any pressure. With all the players missing when I arrived, I 
knew that I would play, whatever I did in training ( laughs )"

-" Alex Ferguson has a lot of qualities. He is at United for 13 years now. He handled 
a lot of stars. It's one of his strenghs, he speaks with his players (...) He keeps 
his players happy (...) I don't know if you can say that he is psychologist, but he is 
leader that is for sure."

-" I feel better at center half "

-" It's a team with a great sense of unity. If we would only trained together and then 
said "good-bye" that wouldn't work. The guys are together for a long time now. 
Beckham, Neville, Butt, Scholes, they have spend most of of their life together. We 
often organise parties, we spend nights together, it's very "family". In my first week 
here, they invited me to go out with them, that's great."

-" Here we only train once a day, which is light compared to what I knew in Italy or 
France. We don't do much physical work. The training is always entertaining. "

-" The players are all great pros. We are very careful off the pitch. All the players 
look after themselves, they are responsible. For instance, after the West Ham game we 
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[31] Giggs hopeful of tying up new deal
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
"We're in talks at the moment. My agent has met with the club, and we're waiting for 
them to come back to us now. As far as I'm concerned, I think it's all looking good. I 
have never had any problems in the past with contracts and I don't foresee any 
problems this time.

I don't want to go and I don't think the club want me to, so I can only see it going 
smoothly. I wouldn't be surprised if it went through in the summer, but there's no 
hurry. United will certainly want to get it sorted before next season starts because I 
would only have a year left after this one. They wouldn't want to get into the Roy 
Keane scenario again where he could have talked to foreign clubs after Christmas and 
there was all that speculation about his future."

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[30] Red News teletext article for ITV, page 514
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
How many plusses can we keep taking from each week. We already know - especially with 
the Fergie retirement stop watch clicking ever, unfortunately, onwards - that we have 
to keep savouring every sweet United moment, but with Jaap and the rest hopefully 
returning to full fitness, a side showing that idle talk of 'striker crisis' after the 
Liverpool defeat was nothing more than ABU wishful thinking, the icing on the cake was 
the way we grappled a win over Fulham on Sunday in the closing stages. Sound familiar? 
Of course it was - like an exec munching his prawn sandwich whilst failing to sing at 
Old Trafford - that is and was the testimony to so many great recent United sides - 
and with late flourishes you can't help but compare how things are shaping up to two 
years ago. Of course talk of how many it could be is equally idle - but that doesn't 
mean we won't and can't enjoy the singular pleasure of enjoying the here and now as 
well.

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[29] Becks and Barthez get a breather
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From Midas soccer...

'While the rest of the United first team squad were sunning themselves around  the 
pool in Spain on Tuesday, Fabien Barthez and David Beckham were 'working'. Sir Alex 
Ferguson had sent his team for a three day break in Southern Spain  and, quite 
conveniently, kit makers Adidas were filming their latest advert  nearby.

Beckham and Barthez were joined by French superstar Zinidine Zidane, Spain's  Raul and 
Italian ace Alessandro Del Piero. The ad is to be screened in the summer.'

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[28] Utd quick off the ball as ever
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
As of midday today...

"I've just checked the official site and the date is now given as:
Sunderland v Manchester United
Stadium of Light, Wednesday 31st January, Kick off 7.45pm.

There's no obvious announcement on there about the change, I haven't heard anything on 
GMR or anywhere else and I wouldn't have noticed had I not been told about the 
announcement on the Sunderland site - presumably United fans are expected to find out 
fixture changes via the opposition's website these days!"

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[27] Pompey escape punishment
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
 Now if this was Utd...
 
Just announced on 5 live - Portsmouth are to escape punishment (through lack of 
evidence) after trouble at a recent game at Craven Cottage.
 
Incidents included :
 
The Fulham keeper being pelted with coins and other missiles. A linesman being hit by 
a snooker ball thrown at him. And the Ref having to leave the field wearing a 
motorbike helmet (honest).
 
The FA cited that as it resembled a typical day out in Croxteth, they could see 
nothing wrong with the behaviour of the Pompey fans - they also dismissed reports that 
fans were stopped whilst attempting to smuggle a scud missile in disguised as a huge 
flag!

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[26] Rest in Peace
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
'An American Football fan who died suddenly has had an appropriate headstone erected 
over his grave - two plastic seats from his team's stadium. Paul Wellener was a season 
ticket holder at the Pittsburgh Steelers for 42 years until he passed away last year. 
Now, ten months after his death, son Paul, and widow Mary Ann, have bought three pairs 
of stadium seats from the Three Rivers Stadium for $2,100 (£1,400) at an auction.

Paul said: "He would just love to have them near him. He hadn't got a headstone and we 
said, 'Why not put two of them seats there'?" The Welleners say they hope to install 
the seats permanently on a granite or concrete base with an inscription.'


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[25] I

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[38] Red News has spoken to the FA over Wes Brown
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
Our Deep Throat tells us:

"Spoke to Andrin Cooper in the FA press ofice - The FA are still waiting for the refs 
match report - If Wes received a yellow (and I am not the one to ask for match detail 
confirmation due to pre-birthday ales - but he did) then he will have now accumulated 
5 - like a red card, the 5th yellow card incurs a one match suspension on the first 
game on or after 14 days have elapsed. I think that makes it West Ham."

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[37] United beat Burnley 7-1
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
United beat Burnley 7-1 at Carrington today, with both Stam and Cole playing the full 
90 minutes - great news. The score at half-time was 2-1. United's scorers were: 
Sheringham and Wilson before half time. Wilson, Cole, Greening and George Clegg (2) 
scored in the second half. George Clegg came in for Sheringham. Wilson and May also 
played for 90 minutes.


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[36] Fergie targets agents
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
"All agents are is a voice for the player. As a club we know what we are prepared to 
give a player before we get into discussions. Agents asking for such and such a figure 
is rubbish and it has all just become a huge ego trip for agents. All the figures 
about what players are wanting is all coming from agents. It is more important for 
them to get huge salaries for their players than it is for the players themselves. 
Agents demand this kind of money and then they can go around to their other clients 
saying I got this and that for so-and-so."

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[35] Red News says 'oops, sorry we made a mistake'
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
Regarding earlier story about Sunderland change. ManUtd.com carried a news story at 
10.08am today announcing the fixture change, and the news story then  dropped down the 
page as more stories came in but even us blind bat fanzine Editor bods should have 
noticed the headline "Sunderland match moved to Wednesday" - so will manutd.com please 
accept a sincere apology and put it down to my 30 year old failings...

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[34] Barthez on his flu bug
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Hello, I have been sick for the last ten days. Sorry to not have talked to you  
sooner but this flu put me in a really bad shape. I don't know where I caught  that, 
maybe at the training  That's why I could not play the Sunday Cup game  versus Fulham. 

What bothered me is I was unable to meet Jeannot . Jean  Tigana, the Fulham coach, and 
I was delighted thinking I was about to see  him. You know, he was my coach when I 
played at Monaco and he's a guy with  whom I have always had very good relationship. A 
straight and good man as I  like them. We talk to each other from time to time on the 
phone. Just like  me, he discovered a new world arriving here in England. And that's a 
success ! I'm sure we're gonna meet on the Premier League fields next year.

The New Year's eve at home  I kept being quiet between the doctors and my house. I m 
pretty OK on this  beginning of week and I can tell you I will play versus Bradford 
this  week-end. As you may have seen, we did not stop at all between Christmas and  
New Year's Eve. I really don't care. I'm not really fond of all those  festivities of 
the end of the year. On New Year's Eve, I did not do anything  special. As my sisters 
and Jeff came, we just had a little quiet dinner at  home and I went to bed very early 
because we had a game on the day after  versus West Ham. A win and a defeat of Arsenal 
on the same day and we lead  the premier league by eleven points. I have almost 
finished the works in the  house and, between the furnitures I brung back from Monaco 
and what I found  here, it s really cool. I at least feel 100% at home!  Of course, I 
wish you a very very good year 2001. All my wishes to all of  you!"

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[33] Utd still keen on Vicenza duo
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
A Vicenza spokesman said on Wednesday: "It is obvious Toni and Tomas have  all the 
characteristics to play in the English Premiership. We will think  about things over 
the next few months but they will see out the season with  us. We can't deny that the 
Ferguson family will come  back to talk to us." 

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[32] Fergie on Sven - and he was offered England job twice
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Posted Wednesday, January 10, 2001 by bar-knee:
"If one can't get the best manager in the country, then one has to go abroad. England 
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[30] Agent has pop at Fergie
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Jonathan Barnett, agent of John Hartson and well, that's it basically answered back to 
Fergie's attack on agents.

"I think he should keep to managing players. I wouldn't dream of telling Mr Ferguson 
how to manage his football team, and I don't think it's correct that he should tell 
agents how to run their business. I wouldn't presume to tell him his, and I wouldn't 
expect him to tell me mine. I run a business and I do what is right for my clients. No 
disrespect to the man - he is very successful - but he has his field and we have ours. 
He's probably the most successful manager in history - but at managing a football 
team, nothing else."

Well, actually, ship worker, landlord, trade union activist, we could go on - but what 
have you done as well Jonathan?

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[29] Transfer target not for sale
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Italian club Vicenza on striker that Fergie saw, Luca Toni: "I cannot really say if 
Luca Toni is really worth £9.4m. We have not  put a value on him. But in all sincerity 
I can say that the player will not leave  Vicenza until June. At the moment our 
objective is avoiding relegation. Until then we can not discuss it"


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[28] OT to get England game...possibly
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
FAD have booked Old Trafford for any World Cup qualifying play-off  they may qualify 
for.

An FA official said: "In a match like that you want the biggest crowd 
you can get to be right behind England. There is no better venue for  that than Old 
Trafford." 

Got to win those games first.

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[27] Sun talks telephone numbers
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
'£21m to tempt Becks By Neil Custis

DAVID BECKHAM has made it clear he will only stay at Manchester  United if they make 
him the right offer.  Contact has been made with Beckham's representatives about a new 
 contract at Old Trafford.  The club have yet to make him a firm offer - but a deal 
worth  £21million over five years is ready to be put to the England midfield star.'

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[26] Butt also happy with Sven
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Definitely, for  English football the sooner the better for him to come in. Everyone 
knows he had been appointed and that seems a long 
time ago now. It's definitely good that he can get more involved with  the 
on-the-field stuff. People can have their own opinions and a lot  of people have said 
different things, but at the end of the day he  has been appointed and the sooner he 
gets in the better.

I'm always hopefully of playing for the national side  and I keep my fingers crossed 
that if I'm picked that I will train  well and get my chance."  

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[25] Brother sticks up for Viera
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Nikoro Vieira: "Things have gone too far. That horrific tackle at Carlisle  could have 
broken Patrick's leg.  I badly want the FA to ask referees to look closely at what is  
happening to Patrick.  It kills me to see him getting red and yellow cards from the 
same  referees who allow opponents to kick him and get away with it.  Everyone can see 
Patrick is in love with football. All he asks is to  be able to play...Will it only 
stop when they have broken his leg?" 

As everyone fails to remember the gruesome tackles that he has made before.

"He is not the one who hurts people. He sets out simply wanting to do 
his best in a very demanding area of the pitch and he is the one who  always gets 
picked on."

Er, is this Patrick Viera we're talking about? 

"Just think of all the times he has kept his cool while under real 
provocation." 

No, can't be.

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[24] Fortune injured for SA
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Quinton Fortune pulled out of South Africa's squad to face 
Mauritius this weekend with a hamstring strain.

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[23] ABU shite
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Do we really need to comment and poke fun at this when surely it does it all itself - 
just had this press release in for yet another piece of ABU shite. Read it and weep 
(tears of laughter about all those sad people who will buy it...).

"Stand Up If You Hate Man.U, £12.99, CarolaMedia Productions

Manchester United recently produced a video documentary  called 'BEYOND THE PROMISED 
LAND' which was enjoyed, no doubt, by all  its supporters. Now it's a return match for 
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FLASH: IMUSA Meeting tonight - item [33]

 
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[34] Stitch the new Soton kit up - surely not!
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Don't try this at home folks...just had this in from a RN reader:

'Southampton FC website is running a poll to see which kit the fans would prefer to 
have when they change it in the near future. I think "kit 4" is the one to vote 
forfor its...er. colourful design.

(link:http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/00_01/news/001227b.shtml) 
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/00_01/news/001227b.shtml

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[33] IMUSA Meeting Tonight - Thursday 11-01-2001
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by redend:
Thursday 11 January 2001 - 8pm (ish)
There is an IMUSA Meeting tonight - open to all members - join on the door.

Usual Venue:
Upstairs at O'Briens pub - next to Stretford Arndale on Chester Road.

New members and new ideas are welcome. Don't be shy.

Any suggestions/further info required - email [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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[32] Lomas turns down city
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
City's chief operating officer Chris Bird told BBC GMR: "He felt City had put together 
a fantastic package. He was very impressed with what we had to say about where the 
club is going and our plans for the future. He's given it more thought and he still 
doesn't feel he can give 100 per cent to anybody in terms of commitment because he 
still feels his future lies with West Ham and in London."

The long way of saying 'I'm not going back there!'.

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[31] Butt & Scholes injured
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Posted Thursday, January 11, 2001 by bar-knee:
Fergie on double injury blow: "Paul suffered the rib injury against Ipswich just 
before Christmas, and I only used him as a substitute at Newcastle. Then he got a bang 
on it again and aggravated it against West Ham on New Year's Day. He has torn 
cartilage in his rib cage, so after he missed the Fulham game I'm now giving him two 
weeks off. He'll probably be back for selection against Aston Villa a week on 
Saturday."

Butt injured his hip against Fulham on Sunday, and Ferguson told the Manchester 
Evening News: "The challenge took the skin off the hip bone. It was a bad and painful 
knock, and I think Nicky will be struggling for Bradford."




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[26] Search on for Dennis Wise?
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
'A hunt is under way for a three-and-a-half ft long snake which escaped when its 
12-year-old owner took it to his Cheshire school. His mother said Daniel Langham was 
devastated when he realised that Cleopatra, a brown and coral California King snake, 
had disappeared. Police have issued an appeal for people to look out for the snake, 
which is said to be "very placid" and not venomous.'

"very placid" and not venomous - that counts Wise out then.

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[25] Fergie aims for that Rio spirit
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
As the team are apparently flying out for a 5 day spring break to Spain on Sunday - 
obviously wanting to give the team a good bit of sun away from it all, just like Rio - 
although it's only 16 degrees in Spain today. 

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[24] Arse home ticket details
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Manchester United v Arsenal, Old Trafford, Sunday 25th February, kick off 1pm.

Postal applications are currently being accepted from Members. Applications should 
include a completed match ticket order form, relevant payment and sae. Ticket prices 
are as stated on the match ticket order form. As we anticipate being heavily 
oversubscribed a postal ballot will be held to determine the successful applicants.

For Information Only: The next Premier League home game to be sold is Leicester City, 
to be played on Saturday 17th March, kick off 3pm. An announcement regarding selling 
arrangements for this game will be made on Friday 2nd February.'


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[23] He should be happy he's not in the city side!
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
Joe Royle on Laurent Charvet: "He's a little bit unhappy that he's not in the team, 
but he hasn't quite settled in yet. It takes time and he's only been here three 
months. To say he's on the transfer list is somewhat premature."

All in all another great Maine Road signing then.

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[22] Early team news
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
Nicky Butt to have late fitness test.

Bradford Team (from): Walsh, Nolan, McCall, Lawrence, Blake, Ward, Carbone, Beagrie, 
Molenaar, O'Brien, Windass, Sharpe, Rankin, Atherton, Saunders, Jacobs, Jess, 
McKinlay, Davison.

United Team (from): Barthez, van der Gouw, P Neville, G Neville, Brown, Irwin, 
Silvestre, Stam, Beckham, Keane, Butt, Giggs, Sheringham, Solskjaer, Yorke, Wallwork, 
Chadwick, Greening, Cole.

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[21] More Wenger moaning
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I would have a pile of gold at my disposal but I would have less responsibility than 
I do at Arsenal. To take Batistuta at that price when he is 32 years old is a heresy, 
financially speaking, because you cannot re-sell him. It's indefensible unless the 
president tells the coach: 'You take whoever you want, and we don't care about the 
economic interest of the club'. It's like playing poker.

As for Real Madrid, who are always recruiting even though they are considerably in 
debt, it's quite simply cheating. For the time being, England is the best place to 
work in world football. "I want to continue here for as long as it pleases me and as 
long as people are happy with me. If it does become a lottery and players move clubs 
several times a season it would be time to do something else like take over a national 
team."


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[20] Fulham deny Teddy link
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
Fulham press spokesman Max Clifford - and look how badly he came out of that Channel 4 
programme last night about Benjamin the bin man -said: "Neither the chairman nor Jean 
Tigana have had any contact - in fact Teddy Sheringham has not even entered their 
thoughts. There is no truth in the story."

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[19] Tabloid talk
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Posted Friday, January 12, 2001 by bar-knee:
Not hard to get a story out of this one considering both have said for some time 
they'd like a brother or sister for Brooklyn Beckham. 

'David and Victoria Beckham are reported to be trying for another baby. According to 
People News, the couple have told close friends they are desperate for a little 
brother or sister for Brooklyn. They hope Victoria will be pregnant by the autumn when 
she will have finished a huge promotional push for her solo career.

A friend said: "Victoria and David are desperate to have a large family. They are 
yearning to have another child for Brooklyn to play with. It's hard for him to mix 
with other kids sometimes, for security reasons. The

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[30] Planet football preview - statto alert
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
Saturday 13th January, 2001
 Bradford V Manchester United (Bradford stats first)
22 Games 20 
  ATTACKING   
27 Goals scored 27 
1.23 Ave goals per game 1.35 
43% Shooting Accuracy 43% 
11% Goals to shots % 11% 
  PASSING   
8070 Passes 7438 
68% Pass completion % 70% 
  DEFENDING   
75% Tackle success rate % 72% 
38 Goals conceded 28 
1.73 Ave goals conceded per game 1.40 
  DISCIPLINE   
350 Fouls 343 
35 Yellow cards 34 
1 Red cards 1 

 Bradford City v Manchester United 
With Bradford struggling at the foot of the Premiership table, out of 
the FA Cup, and with key players seemingly on their way out of the 
club, the last thing Jim Jeffries' side need is a visit from runaway 
leaders Manchester United. 

 

United have scored three times as many goals as the Bantams this 
season and have conceded half as many, and few would bet against them 
recording their 16th league victory of the 2000-01 campaign. 

There is no starker contrast between the two sides than in attack, 
with United the leading scorers in the top-flight and Bradford at the 
opposite end of the scale. The champions have the best goals-to-shots 
ratio in the Premiership this season with 15% of their efforts 
finding the net, while in contrast Bradford have the league's lowest 
chance-conversion ratio of just 8%. 

Even without the talents of Andy Cole, Teddy Sheringham and Dwight 
Yorke at their disposal, United have kept up their relentless march 
towards a seventh title in nine years. The prospect of all three 
being available will send shivers down the spines of the Bradford 
faithful, and ex-United 'keeper Gary Walsh, who has been Jeffries' 
first choice for the last five league matches. 

 

In the corresponding fixture last term Alex Ferguson's side dominated 
proceedings - even if they did leave it late to make their mark - and 
Opta's stats for 2000-01 suggest things will not be any different 
this time round. United have completed nearly twice as many passes as 
the Bantams have, nailing a league-high 79% of balls compared to the 
Yorkshire side's lowly 66%, and are likely to dictate the pace of the 
game. 

The battling Bantams will need to be at their combative best in this 
heavyweight of a fixture. Jeffries is happy with the side's 
commitment, but it is Alex Ferguson's side who hold the edge in the 
tackle, having won an excellent 76% of all challenges this season 
compared to Bradford's 71%. 

Perhaps Bradford's best chance of snatching a result rests with Dean 
Windass. The former Oxford United striker is City's joint-top scorer 
in the top-flight, has attempted 44 shots in total and was Bradford's 
chief threat against Middlesbrough on Monday night. 

But a Manchester United victory looks a dead cert on paper, and 
online bookmakers surreySPORTS.com offer odds of 18/1 for a repeat of 
the 4-0 win United achieved last season at Valley Parade 

Tim Wheal 

 
 
Matchday Referee: A.Wiley 

This match is unlikely to see too many cards brandished. United have 
committed fewer fouls than any other Premiership side, while Bradford 
are also one of the cleanest sides in the top-flight (Dean Windass 
aside, who has collected eight cautions this term - nearly a quarter 
of all Bradford's bookings!). Alan Wiley is also one of the most 
lenient referees in the Premiership. He shows less than three cards 
per game on average and has only cautioned more than four players in 
a match once this season - in his last assignment on New Year's Day 
when he booked five. 
 
Referee's Name   Fouls Penalties Yellow Cards Red Cards Ave Disc 
points 
A Wiley 326 4 35 0 36.92 

 PLAYER HEAD-TO-HEAD
 
Molenaar v G.Neville  

 TEAM NEWS  
Lee Sharpe and Gunnar Halle are both available after hamstring and 
foot problems respectively but David Wetherall (groin) and Gareth 
Whalley (groin) are still absent until February. Man United may 
recall Jaap Stam after an Achilles injury. Also poised to return to 
the squad are Andy Cole, Ronny Johnsen and Paul Scholes.

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[29] Scoutmaster says 'pull up your woggle'
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
ARSENE WENGER believes midfielder Patrick Vieira may have gone "too 
soft" after clearing up his act. 

The French star, who faces Chelsea today, has been a model of 
restraint since being sent off in the first two games of the season. 

But his manager Wenger joked: "Patrick has gone 19 games without a 
booking and maybe that's too long for him. Maybe he's getting too 
soft." 

Wenger hopes to sign Brazilian ace Edu for pounds 6million next 
week. 

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[28] Scoutmaster confesses - your pack may not love you!
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
As Wenger consoles Raneiri:

"You never know if you have ever truly won over your

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[42] More Fergie post match quotes
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
"It wasn't a great performance by us but we worked reasonably well and hard. It was a 
good workmanlike display." Ferguson again refused to concede his side are guaranteed 
to win yet another Premiership title as he added: "We are not interested in what is 
happening behind us. We have got our own standard to reach and we have seen leads 
disappear in the past - so it is better for us if we can just keep on winning."
 
 

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[41] Jefferies defends Gary
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
"It would be wrong of me to crucify Gary for his mistake because he is feeling bad 
enough already. He is a good goalkeeper and I have every confidence in him. There's no 
way he is going to be dropped - he will be in goal for us next week."

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[40] Ooh Aah Paul McGrath
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
Paul is making an appearance for Utd 'partner club' Shelbourne against Sky 'dream 
team' Harchester Utd (maybe the first excuse to watch this bolloxs)on January 28th at 
Tolka Park


McGrath, who still lives in Cheshire, said: "My dodgy knees are 
legendary, but if they don't give me any more trouble then I shall 
look forward to being involved. Football was good to me and I would 
like to give something back to people less fortunate." 


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[39] Good people of Dublin show sense
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
Thanks to Brendan for this:

Man United cafe closes in Dublin

A Manchester United theme cafe in the basement of Dublin `s Manchester
United megastore has closed , only weeks after it opened.
The Red Cafe on D`Olier Street was run by Rua Restaurants 
International Ltd
and was a separate venture to the megastore for which Roches Stores 
holds
the franchise.

Extract from Irish Times Today.

It seems that the citizens of Dublin are not so gullible after all !


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[38] Top 5 tonight
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
Man Utd 23 54 
Sunderland  23 31 
Arsenal 23 39 
Liverpool   22 42 
Ipswich 22 33 


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[37] Jefferies: We accepted it after 1st goal
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
"For 70 minutes we did everything right. In the first half, we probably shaded it on 
shots on target. 

"The goal was a mistake. Things like that change games. My only criticism of the team 
is that after that we accepted it." 


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[36] Fergie feels sorry for Walsh
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
"Anybody but Gary," 

"He played for us for a few years and he was a terrific young goalkeeper. Everybody 
felt for him." 

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[35] Fergie: Bradford very stubborn
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
"Bradford were very stubborn"They dug in well. Their spirit was good and they made it 
a very difficult game for us." 

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[34] Final score
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
Bradford 0 Utd 3 (Teddy, Giggsy and a first league goal for Luke Chadwick)

Seems to have been a tight game until ex Red Gary Walsh gifted the first to Teddy. 
Still 11 points clear as the Arse and Rent boys drew one each and allowed the Mackems 
to go into second place after beating West 'am 2-0

Quotes to follow

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[33]UEFA & FIFA fall out (again)
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Posted Saturday, January 13, 2001 by tb:
The argument centres on a new document produced by world governing body Fifa which 
will allow players to walk out for any "just sporting cause". Taken to extremes, it 
could mean the likes of David Beckham quitting Manchester United because he disagreed 
with Sir Alex Ferguson's tactics. 


Mike Lee, Uefa's communications director, said: "We have formally written to Fifa 
demanding they withdraw the document. The new proposals have been submitted without 
consultation and could undermine the whole negotiating process." 


Frank Clark, vice-chairman of the League Managers' Association, believes Fifa's new 
proposals are unworkable. 


He told the Daily Telegraph: "I find this proposal absolutely incredible. It would 
make the manager's position impossible (you would know Frank, being an ex Massive 
bos!). 


"As it is, if you have an unhappy player you are always keen for him to move on 
because of the effect on the dressing room so I don't know why this is necessary." 


One official added: "The new proposals that have been made are a matter for serious 
concern. It's potentially open to manipulation and abuse 

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[14] Carling to be dropped?
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
The Sunday Mirror claims that Carling will lose the sponsorship of the Premiership at 
the end of the season. Budweiser, Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Siemens are lined up to take 
over. 




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[13] Bid in pipeline for Kanoute?
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
According to the Sunday People we are interested in Kanoute, but he will cost us £15 
million

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[12] Teddys Agent - Nothing from Fulham
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
Suggestions that Teddy Sheringham may move to Fulham at the end of the season have 
been ridiculed by his adviser, Barry Nevill. 

'If Teddy has the opportunity to stay at Manchester United then he will do, if 
everything is right,' said Nevill. 

'There is no update at the momnt but I have not heard from Fulham and hopefully 
agreement on a new deal at United will not take as long as last year.' 



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[11] Keano in new deal?
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
According to Soccernet/Daily Moral Keano is to be offered an improved deal to keep him 
beyond his current deal to 2005. No quotes of course.

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[10 Fergie backs up Becks
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
"We have never mentioned David's salary and have not even opened negotiations with the 
lad. I think it would be proper to wait until we start negotiations and then see where 
that takes us.

"But it is a difficult time for managers - it is a difficult time for football with 
talk of the introduction of freedom of movement and the cancellation of the transfer 
system."



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[9] Scouser in job offer shock!
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
Kenny Dalglish has turned his back on football management ( more like nobody would 
touch him with a barge pole!)to join up with leading football agent, Paul Stretford.

Stretfords agency - ProActive Sports Management (who makes up these names)handles 
amongst others Andrew Cole and Peter Schmeichel 

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[8] Shotgun on way?
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
The Observer tells of rumours that Shotgun and Steve 'clingfilm' Harrison are quitting 
Villa and parking up their horses in barcode country. 

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[7] Antwerp latest
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
John O'Shea, Kirk Hilton and  Jimmy Davis played for Antwep in a 2-2 draw in Germany, 
with Davis being the most impressive. O'Shea scored an own goal in the friendly 
against Borussia Moenchengladbach.

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[6]  Fergie clears up Yorke mystery
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
According to Teamtalk, Yorkie picked up an injury on Thursday, and there hadn't been a 
bust up as had been reported (you know where first). The injury is not serious and 
Yorkie will be on the plane to Spain




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[5] Kenyon: No anarchy in the Plc
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
"The structure will change but in reality there will be levels we won't be prepared to 
go to, otherwise there is anarchy," said Kenyon. "There has to be limits." 

"They have helped create something very special," 

"I want them to stay and I believe they want to stay." 


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[4] Becks puts it everyone straight
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
Becks counters all the cobblers about his contract negotiations (again!)

"There have been a lot of misleading rumours concerning negotiations on my new 
contract," 

"The truth is that no discussions have taken place between me or my representatives 
and Manchester United. Suggestions that I have certain offers and am making bigger 
demands are just not true." 

"As I have repeatedly said I want to stay at Manchester United for as long as they 
want me to stay. But for the moment my biggest priority is playing football. 


"This is a big season for me, Manchester United and England. United are chasing the 
Premiership, the FA Cup and the European Cup and nothing is going to divert me from 
trying to achieve another treble. 


"Success with England is equally important for me and the early arrival of our new 
coach Sven-Goran Eriksson has provided us all with a new impetus. 


"I want to impress upon him how much I want to be a vital part of his plans, hopefully 
as captain." 


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[3] Littledick gets the massive hump!
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
Thanks to on

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[22] Nigerian fan killed
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
A Nigerian football supporter was shot dead by police before Saturday's African 
Nations Cup clash with Zambia at the national stadium in Lagos.

According to eye-witnesses, the shot was fired when police tried to break up a clash 
between supporters at Surulere.

The police are not sure whether the shot was fired intentionally or by accident.

A witness said: "A policeman drew his gun and the boy got shot in the head at close 
range."


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[21] Thick as thieves
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
As Shaggy has advice for Fowlup:

"My advice to Robbie is sit tight, work hard (bit rich coming from a scouse layabout), 
get your form back and show you're not a quitter - not in a defiant 'I'm going to 
cause problems' way.

And getting lamped at 2am outside a bar isn't causing anyone problems is it!







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[20] Ince defends Robbo
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
As Charlie says:

"Terry has done a great job since arriving as our new head coach last month," said the 
inspirational midfielder.

"Defensively we are looking a lot better. Teams are now looking at us as tough 
opponents whereas in the past they would have looked forward to playing us.

"But it annoys me bit when our gaffer Bryan Robson is ignored when the plaudits are 
handed out.

"It is very much a team effort between Terry and the gaffer. They proved a successful 
partnership in Euro 96 and work really well here.



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[19] A Stam is for life
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
As the Jaapster says:

"I don't see another club being a step up. I would love to play out my career at Old 
Trafford. You feel you are making history here." 


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[18] Rai to get new deal
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
To the relief (ooh err missus) of a certain femail spy of ours, it would appear that 
Van de Gorgeous (her words not mine)is to get a one year extension, or something

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[17 Utd to follow Ingerlund's example?
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
As Kenyon says:

"We won't restrict ourselves to the British Isles in our search for the right man. We 
won't discriminate. Standards have been set here by Alex and we will go for the best 
possible candidates to replace him. Why should we restrict ourselves? We just want the 
best guy." 

According to Teamtalk this hints at Marcello Lippi, Otmar Hitzfeld and Fabio Capello. 

Expect everyone from Barry Fry to Barry Humphries to join this list!


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[16] Cruyff Senior joins in the Becks debate
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
"It's true that English players, with the exception of Kevin Keegan, traditionally 
haven't been complete successes outside their own country. 
"The case of Beckham could be different. He's not one of these spectacular players. He 
 doesn't dribble or get round his opponent. 
"He's someone who plays the ball, crosses well, shoots well and takes good free kicks. 

"I like him. You don't have to look at him as a Ronaldo at Barcelona. In one season he 
guarantees you 15 goals and 15 assists." 

"It would cost a fortune to take him away from Manchester United but I'm one of this 
people who believe that great players, as is the case with Luis Figo, turn out to be 
cheap in the end," 

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[15] Mr Potato Head given Massive vote of confidence
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Posted Sunday, January 14, 2001 by tb:
As Bernstein says:

"Joe is very resilient," he said on Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme. "He's been 
through these sort of things before. 


"He had difficult times at Oldham, where he did a fantastic job, and at Everton. He's 
brought tremendous qualities to Maine Road. He's helped us transform the club. 


"He needs time. I think in our situation with the progress that we've made over the 
last two years, he needs time, and it's very important that he has that time. 


"I'm not in that vote of confidence game because people laugh at that.( I think you'll 
find they're laughing already David) He'll have the time that he needs. We've got 
great belief in Joe. 


"One has to go back two or three years, and the club was in a hell of a state. It was 
known for its lack of stability and we had financial problems at the time. 


"The club has come forward a hell of a long way, and the fact that we're having a 
sticky time now, we have to face that. We have to work very, very hard. 


"We have to look to bring a bit more quality into the side, I think that's apparent, 
but I'm sure we can do that." 

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Sorry - forgot to send the email out yesterday! Here is an early double issue.
 
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[17] ERIC CANTONA INTERVIEW - EXCLUSIVE RED NEWS TRANSLATION
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
Where we lead others follow, so expect a few journalists who can't get off their fat 
arses to cover this in the coming days without credit...

>From our French correspondent, Marc.

Last week Eric gave a 30 minutes interview to "Tout le monde en parle",  the most 
trendy show on french TV. It was his first in-depth interview for  years.

Eric looked physically tired but it took just a few minutes to realize that Eric was 
"mentally" at his very  best. His answers were quick and sharp, "Cantonesque" and he 
seemed to enjoy  the interview. Happy. Eric spoke of football but mainly of his life, 
his  dreams and his passions.  It was a real pleasure to see our King.


Here is the best of the interview.

- His temper : "I like people who react, who do what they like. I am not saying that I 
am a rebel. I haven't to be proud of what I have done. I have  done things (points). I 
am as I am. I wouldn't advise a kid to do the things I  have done. When you say what 
you think, you have to be perfect on the pitch.  If I had been quiet, I could have 
done better."

- What he prefers in life : "It's to be with my family, with the ones I  love. To feel 
free to say what I want."

- His dreams : "Once I dreamt that I piloted a plane but I had to wait at  the lights. 
Everybody has done this dream. The plane symbolises the freedom,  the red light is a 
ditch. It means that you can't do what you want in life." 

- His uncle, a hermit who lived in the forest : "He is my idol. I have  never seen him 
but my grandmother has told me so much about him that I really  admire him. She has 
made me love someone I have never seen. He has done what I have dreamt to do all my 
life." 

- Sex : "My pleasure is the pleasure of my partner. I like to give pleasure,  this is 
the only thing that matters. As long as my partner is enjoying it, I  enjoy it."

 - What is the most sexy part of him : " I like to dance, I am a good dancer. I am 
sensual"

 - What is the least sexy? : "Nothing. I am sexy (laughs )."

 - Cinema : "It's not for me. It's too long. I am not good enough, I don't  really 
enjoy it, I have never felt the pleasure of the actor. I am not good  enough. Football 
is my real passion." 

-  Painting : “It's a therapy for me. It can be impulsive, delicate. I need  to 
express myself. If people don't like my paintings, I don't care."

-   His favourite game : "It has to be Liverpool, my come-back. I will never  forget."

- Brawls with players : "At Auxerre, all players had to clean the  dressing-room. We 
all did that except a guy called Martini. We had a brawl  but after that I understood 
him. Now, I like him, as a friend. Yes, I  had an argument (laughs) with Lemoult (at 
Montpellier). But it wasn't for  me, it was for the team. I am not clever, not at all 
but I think I am  instinctive and I thought that the team needed something, a shock. 
After  that, we had great results and we won the Cup. It created a solidarity  between 
the players, we saw who were the men."

- The seagull sentence : "My lawyer and the officials absolutely wanted me to speak. 
So, I just said that, it was nothing, it did not mean anything. I  could have said : 
'the curtains are pink but I love them.' I spoke because I  had to."

- His non-selection for Euro 96 : "Aimé Jacquet came to see me in Manchester.  But I 
was at a party and I arrived two hours late. He had left. I don't know  what he wanted 
to tell me. Maybe I was in but when he saw I was late he  decided against taking me. 
It's normal. But he has never used that as an  excuse for not picking me when 
everybody told him he was wrong. That's very respectable." 

Translation Copyright RED NEWS 2001

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[16] So that's a NO then is it?
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
Responding to gossip that Gergory might be moving to Newcastle as manager, their 
chairman Freddy Shepherd said: "Gregory will never manage this club while I am 
chairman".


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[15] Harveson also denies hotel story
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
"We haven't booked a hotel in the Cardiff area for the FA Cup final. We'd wait until 
the semi-final stage, after we've got through the quarter-finals, before planning 
that. I'm new to the club - but we certainly won't be booking it before then." Uefa 
book the hotels for likely finalists in the Champions League and when the teams get 
through they're offered a choice from the batch. Nothing has been confirmed."


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[14] Harveson - Utd's PR - echoes Kenyon's thoughts 
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
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[29] Phil Neville on Saturday & Spain
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I said last week that Saturday's game against Bradford was going to be tough  and it 
makes me laugh when I hear people talking about a walkover. Like the  rest of the 
teams at the foot of the table, Bradford are fighting for their  lives and they proved 
last season that they re not just going to lie down and  let teams beat them easily. 

In some games, like last Saturday and the game against Fulham, you have to  win the 
battle and hope you get the break that opens the game up for you. In  the first 70 
minutes on Saturday, Bradford fought for everything and made it  hard for us to pass 
and create chances. All you can do in games like this is  try to wear the opposition 
down and hopefully you get your rewards later in  the match when opponents tire. 

This was exactly the case on Saturday. It was an even game for the first 70  minutes 
until we got our break and, whilst we all felt sorry for Gary Walsh,  we were grateful 
that the goal came. From then on we capitalised and the  gates opened for us to score 
another two goals later on in the game. It  wasn't one of our vintage displays but 
when you see the results that Bradford  have got against the top teams at Valley 
Parade, your concentration has to be  at its best or there is every chance they ll 
beat you. 

After the match, there was a general feeling of satisfaction at the result  but we re 
aware that there s still room for improvement and with Jaap, Coley  and Ronnie on 
their way back to fitness I think the competition for places  will go a long way to 
help that improvement. 

There are no doubts that the break in Brazil this time last year did us no  harm. We 
returned refreshed and ready for the final push towards the end of  the season. With 
this in mind, the boss is taking us to Spain this week for  four days at a training 
camp where we can escape the current freezing British  temperatures and get in some 
quality training that will hopefully prepare us  for the remainder of the season. 

People might think we re going for a holiday, but we ll probably be training  twice a 
day whilst we re there. This is something that we do at this stage  every season and 
it seems to have the desired effect".





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[28] Sven to watch United on Saturday
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
Sven also stitched up by radio presenter Mike Maguire pretending to be Kevin Keegan 
sending him best wishes. Sven said that Becks will remain England captain, Gazza has 
no chance of a return (shock, horror!) and that he was impressed by Joe Cole. Cutting 
edge journalism that - so what gossip did Sven actually reveal. Er, nothing. Perhaps 
he knew all along - or he doesn't like Keegan! 

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[27] More about UEFA-FIFA kicking it off
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
Fifa general secretary Michel Zen-Ruffinen has faxed UEFA an offer to withdraw the 
document if "the majority of the football family" wishes, but UEFA are baffled as to 
what that may mean.

Uefa director of communications Mike Lee said: "The proposals have not been withdrawn 
by Fifa. We have received a letter, but the letter itself is unclear. We are not clear 
what exactly Fifa mean by 'majority of the football family'. It continues to be a 
matter of concern for us."

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[26] Scholes wants to stay a Red too
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I don't want to quit United, there has never been any question about that. I want to 
stay here, I can't imagine playing for another club. I signed a seven-year deal and it 
was always agreed that after the third year, in the summer, we would renegotiate."


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[25] Fancy a game tonight?
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
As everyone seems to have gone to Spain the Reserves play Bradford City at the 
Bradford and Bingley Stadium tonight, live on MUTV - kick off 7pm - the team picked 
should be a young one.

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[24] Transfer saga latest
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Posted Tuesday, January 16, 2001 by bar-knee:
And we thought the Star Wars epic went on too long these days.

'Uefa are to call an emergency meeting as the row over football's transfer system 
continues to escalate.'

Uefa spokesman Mike Lee said: "We have convened an emergency meeting of our executive 
committee today and on Wednesday where we will report the results of yesterday's 
meetings and the strength of feeling from the top European leagues. We will also be 
communicating to both Fifa and the Commission the belief that European football's 
voice must be heard. The key point is you must have respect of 

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[28] Fergie - we must be careful
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
"We have to guard against complacency," Ferguson said. "We talk constantly to our 
players about it. It is in the championship that you have to be careful about becoming 
nonchalant. If you drop three daft points the others think the race is back on. The 
further down the line they go towards the time when the trophies are won, the better 
they become"

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[27] Quicker than even we predicted
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
As we predicted, Mirror has used our translation of Cantona interview! 

'ERIC CANTONA is set for a return to football after claiming he is fed up with  being 
an actor.  The former Manchester United maestro quit the club four years ago to tread  
the boards after leading the Reds to FA Cup and title success.  But he admitted he 
does not get the same buzz from acting and said: "I  haven't found the pleasure of an 
actor. I am not good enough. Football is my real passion." 

Credit lads - at least our hardcore readership know where a lot of stories come from, 
and then where they appear elsewhere - sometimes word for word - with our name 
suddenly missing. Us paranoid? Who you saying that about!


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[26] Johnsen still troubled by injury
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
Withdrew from a comeback game for the reserves last night, due to his kneee injury, 
it's looks like another month out of action according to the Times - with doubts we 
hear about his long term future because of the seriousness of it.

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[25] Bosnich to get move?
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
That is if he can get out of the door...

'Mark Bosnich could be given a Premiership  lifeline, with Chelsea said to be ready to 
move for the Australian goalkeeper. The former Aston Villa stopper has had a nightmare 
season at Old Trafford,  being ousted by summer signing Fabien Barthez and banished to 
the reserves by  manager Sir Alex Ferguson being Raimond van der Gouw.'

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[24] Kenyon on the transfer saga
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
As he speaks in Singapore - out there again. God he must like the place.

"Smaller clubs rely on transfer fees for up to 80% of their revenue. It's a really 
serious issue. From a fan's point of view... a fan not only follows a club, but he 
also follows a player, and he will not know from one week to the next if the player is 
going to be there or not. what we have in the transfer system is fundamentally good 
for the game", Kenyon says the FIFA plan "has a long way to go" if it is to see the 
light of day.

One of the pre-season games he announced will be for the Courts Cup in Singapore, 
named after the furniture retailer sponsoring the match. Such a sad name that surely 
city would be better off competing for it.

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[23] Youth Cup match postponed
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
United vs Scunthorpe United, 4th Round tie, for tonight (rescheduled
from Tuesday 9 January) has again been postpone. No new date as yet.


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[22] Red News teletext page (514 on ITV)
-
Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
'So where do we begin with the good points from the last seven days then. It seems a 
perpetual upslide these days and although we'll never count our chickens and all that 
- insert any cliche to accompany this 'game of two...', 'not sick as a dodo', 'over 
the moon', etc, etc - the win over Bradford exmplified how we can be level with a side 
(in this case close to three-quarters of the game) and then score that crucual goal 
and just up the pace to sublime levels. How often do we score one and then quikcly 
follow it with another and another (rhetorical question, only anoraks need actually 
look it up). The Midas man then sees how well Rio did for us in terms of rejuvenating 
the players if not for the blow of missing the Cup and opts for a quick break this 
week in Spain. Others haven't had the foresight to take this opportunity but a five 
day break (even though they hardly saw the sun) will do the world of good for Utd. And 
look how well we'd done before they went!'

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[21] Spain has done us good
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
Steve McClaren: "We benefited from the trip to Rio last year, and hopefully we will 
benefit again. It's nice to train in a warm climate but the rest, recovery and 
relaxation aspects are important as well."

The players, according to the official site, went to the F

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2001-01-17 Thread news

 
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[38] More from Fergie
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
"The biggest threat will be from our own point of view - from our own side of it. 
"Because you never know how injuries are going to play a part in anything and we all 
hope that we don't get any injuries. We've had them this season and you have to cope 
with them and that's what we've learnt. If you don't get a lot of injuries then 
there's a lot of things which are achievable.

We want to win the league and this is our best chance at this moment in time so 
obviously the focus will be on the league games. That's until February 14 when we have 
the resumption of the European Champions League and the home tie with West Ham in the 
FA Cup. That's a nice diversion away from the league scene. So really we will look to 
our own selves, focus on the games and make sure we keep on winning. If we do our best 
that way we can cut off the supply lines to the rest."

It hasn't been difficult in the past, so I don't expect it to be difficult this 
season. I think the players' character has been well and truly tested."


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[37] Youth Cup game re-arranged
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
Will now be played against Scunthorpe at Old Trafford, after twice being postponed at 
Gigg Lane. Monday 22 January at 7pm is the new date - well worth going to, to see the 
next bunch of Reds.

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[36] OH NO - yet more FIFA-UEFA quotes!
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From UEFA:"This document (Proposals to Amend Fifa's International Transfer 
>Regulations) remains with the EC and as a result continues to undermine the 
>negotiation process and the status of the original proposals. The new Fifa document 
>creates a distinction between the European Union/European Economic Area and the rest 
>of the world which is potentially damaging to European football. The Fifa document 
>includes proposals which weaken two of the key principles for European football, 
>namely contract stability and the development of an effective system of compensation.

It is essential for the unity of the game that all future negotiations with the EC are 
based on the original joint Fifa-Uefa Transfer Task Force proposals"

You can wake up now.

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[35] It happened to me just the other week
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
I had to wait for a freak storm to blow the tree away and free me. Never did get the 
refund - but then again Virgin were never very quick on giving you back your money 
after a complaint (boom, boom!)

'A young shepherd has been left penniless and tied to a tree in Romania after being 
tricked by a prostitute. Vasile Contescu, 17, had saved up for months to get enough 
money to go to the nearest town and lose his virginity with a beautiful prostitute. He 
wanted to take the woman back to his shepherd's hut, but she suggested they should 
have sex in the forest. When they got to the wood in County Valcea, she took out a 
knife and tied him to a tree before running off with his savings. Police say he was 
finally released when a passer-by heard his screams for help after several hours.'


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[34] Another one to add to the list
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
Daily Star quotes Eric interview without thanking us, or more importantly, Marc who 
translated it. Sad obese hack awards so far jointly shared with Star and Mirror. More 
to follow no doubt...

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[33] So the other 60% are Reds?
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
'More than 40% of Britons felt the year 2000 was a flop, according to a survey.'

All ABUs...

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[32] And today's Scouser in a suit is...
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Danny Cadamarteri has appeared in court charged with assaulting a 
woman in a late-night fracas.  The 21-year-old striker is alleged to have punched 
Joeline Joel, 24,  in Hardman Street, Liverpool, on October 1.  Liverpool Magistrates 
Court has committed Cadamarteri, of Walton  Cross Cottage, Cleckheaton, West 
Yorkshire, for trial at crown court.  The Everton star spoke only to confirm his name, 
age and address  during the five-minute hearing.  He was remanded on bail on the 
condition that he does not approach Ms  Joel or a witness.  He will appear before 
Liverpool Crown Court on February 28 to 
formally enter a plea.' 


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[31] And Jimmy Hill said
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Posted Wednesday, January 17, 2001 by bar-knee:
The chinny one: "I haven't changed my view from when I was chairman of the PFA and it 

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2001-01-18 Thread news

 
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[35] Red News comment on Bosnich departure
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Posted Thursday, January 18, 2001 by bar-knee:
So all that money for his 35 appearances. The signs never bode well for his time at 
Old Trafford - with rumours from the off that with the club desperate to get a 'name' 
to replace Peter, after Van Der Saar and Barthez, originally, turned us down Our 
Martin went ahead and signed Bossie without the full knowledge of Fergie. True or not 
it was symbolic of his time - yet signed on a Bosman he got a massive (not in the 
terms of city) deal. Apparently a wage per month that would have made most of his 
team-mates jealous and a top off 'signing on' fee that combined made him one of the 
biggest earners at the club.

It doesn't take Einstein to work out - along with Taibi - his signing was ill judged 
and an expensive mistake. That first real game at Everton highlighted a weakness - 
kicking - that was to prove evident time and time again but as again rumours grew of 
disagreements within the goalkeeping camp over training methods that Bosnich found, he 
began to make the No.1 spot (after being challenged by Raimond and Taibi) with some 
outstanding displays, most notably Madrid and Japan.

But that kicking - or lack of it - persisted and something just didn't add up with the 
whole thing. The management by their constant droppins and signing of Taibi in the 
first place showed that they had worries; and if truth be told let's not forget the 
many Utd fans who were uncertain about his signing in the first place because they 
quite simply didn't like the player.

Red News knew him when he was a youngster when he was first at Old Trafford - a nicer 
kid you could not have hoped to meet - but stories came thick and fast about how this 
had changed - failing to sign autographs at the Cliff, etc and it soon became apparent 
that it just wasn't going to work out. Words may have been said to the contrary but 35 
games says that the management, as with many, fans just didn't see him as a long term 
player at United. Barthez and his form upon arrival (and his kicking) has just shown 
what we'd been lacking and the difference between a good keeper and a world clas 
keeper.

Bosnich began to moan about his situation, pick up weight and further anger staff - 
but as he was a Bosman he wanted to see any transfer money go to him again. A major 
mistake and leaving the whole thing in limbo - Chelsea, Monaco, Celtic, etc, etc were 
all linked but would they pay his expensive wages and who would get the fee. There was 
no way Utd would let the player keep it. So with erratic form in games that Bosnich 
probably felt were insulting to be picked in - Wrexham recently - the end was nigh. 
And so it has passed to be. A contract terminated - thanks I suppose for some good 
displays and helping us on our way to that second consecutive title but a mistake 
nonetheless - but if fate had signed someone else would we now have Barthez. Things 
have a habit of working out for United - and so, despite it all, we hope it does for 
this departing Red as well, but that's a lot of money he's earnt (and United have 
forked out and lost for the remainder of his contract) at United f!
or failing to achieve his potential. And why didn't he spend some time working on that 
kicking? 

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[34] Disturbing reading
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Posted Thursday, January 18, 2001 by bar-knee:
'These are serious Health and Safety issues issued by the HSE. 

* 3 people die each year testing if a 9v battery works on their tongue.
* 142 people were injured in 1998 by not removing all pins from new
shirts.
* 58 people are injured each year by using sharp knives instead of
screwdrivers.
* 31 people have died since 1996 by watering their Christmas tree while the fairy 
lights were plugged in.
* 19 people have died in the last 3 years believing that Christmas
decorations were chocolate.
* Hospitals reported 4 broken arms last year after cracker pulling
accidents.
* 101 people since 1997 have had to have broken parts of plastic toys
pulled out of the soles of their feet.
* 18 people had serious burns in 1998 trying on a new jumper with a lit cigarette in 
their mouth.
* A massive 543 people were admitted to A&E in the last two years after opening 
bottles of beer with their teeth.
* 5 people were injured last year in accidents involving out of control Scalectrix 
cars.
And finally,
* 8 people cracked their skull in 1997 after falling asleep while
throwing up into the toilet.'

I'd better never go out the front door again...

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[33] Silvestre speaks
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Posted Thursday, January 18, 2001 by bar-knee:
"The first ranking against the last ranking this is how our 23rd Premier League round 
looked like. Bradford City held their ground for over an hour before collapsing in the 
last fifteen minutes. The title approach

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[34] Angel might not be playing
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
John Gregory on waiting for clearance to come through: "I hope the international 
clearance comes through and that  you will see him lining up for us at the weekend. He 
has already shown us on the training pitch what he is  capable of. But he has not 
played for a month and that is a concern  for myself because it is going to be 
difficult for him to contemplate  90 minutes at full pelt."  It was 35 degrees in 
Buenos Aries and it is a bit of a shock seeing  the frost on the ground every morning. 
 But he has been wrapping himself up in plenty of clothes and he has 
been enjoying it." 



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[33] Bosnich agent denies Utd are unhappy
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Kutner insisted that United did not impose any conditions on the 
keeper's release and said: "There was nothing in writing to that  effect. I think 
because we asked for them to release him on a free transfer  before the 31st of 
January, which is when the transfer market closes  in the major European countries, 
the assumption was that he would be  looking to go to a European club. But there was 
nothing in writing  saying he had to go to a European club. It was not a 
misunderstanding  on our part and we knew what we were doing."

Sounds like the old term 'wool' and 'eyes' has been played here.


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[32] Shareholders United press release
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
SHAREHOLDERS UNITED -www.shareholdersunited.org

"Shareholders United can only be good for the game. I'd urge United fans to get 
involved" - Sir Alex Ferguson

'Shareholders United, the Manchester United supporter-shareholder group, is launching 
a new scheme that enables ordinary fans to become shareholders in their club in the 
cheapest, easiest way ever...

Now, when joining Shareholders United for £10, members will automatically become 
shareholders in Manchester United plc.  If wanting more than this initial share, 
members can join the monthly scheme.

The shares for both purposes - new recruits and monthly buyers - is
purchased by SU in a single batch each month, meaning huge savings on
dealing and commission costs.  Purchases of any number of additional shares can also 
be made through the scheme.

The shares will be held in a "nominee account" by United's own stockbrokers Wise 
Speke, and the money for shares will be handled by the Manchester based Co-operative 
Bank.

Dividends will continue, but will be in the form of additional United
shares - via the plc's own dividend re-investment scheme.  Shares in the collective 
account remain the property of the individual member, and can be withdrawn at any time.

Manchester United will regard it as a single shareholding, with a single collective 
vote at the plc AGM.

SU spokesman, Oliver Houston, said: "Some people might buy a square of turf for a 
tenner, but owning shares gives you a piece of Old Trafford for life. 'ir Alex 
supports us, we have the Government's approval and the backing of the United fanzines 
- we intend to go all the way with this one.

By clubbing together to buy shares we can have a greater say in how our club is run. A 
10% stake would make us the biggest single shareholder and act as an automatic block 
to future threats of hostile take-over. Having the means to buy back a significant 
portion of the club to be held in the hands of supporters is within our grasp.
 There are tens of thousands of season ticket holders, UK and overseas
branch members and fanzine readers out there, not to mention the millions of other 
United fans around the world,  who will want to join Shareholders United through this 
new scheme."


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[31] More from MEN - we're to get satisfaction report
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Let us know if you receive one...

'United are sending out 5,000 questionnaires to fans to  monitor customer satisfaction 
at Old Trafford - and the list of  questions have been compiled by Reds' supporters.  
United's objective to become a smoother run and more approachable  outfit will be 
given its first major test when the replies come back  in mid-February and the Reds 
draw up a table of the good and the bad. The Leadership Factor company, who specialise 
in customer  satisfaction, are the independent body who organised four study  groups 
of ten fans each drawn up from United's members, season ticket  holders, league match 
book holders and executive box holders.

The study groups met last week to compile around 25 questions to  circulate among 
5,000 supporters chosen at random by the independent 
company. United want to know what they are good at and what they are bad at  when it 
comes to their customer relations. T

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2001-01-19 Thread news

 
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[42] Final Friday reminder
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Red News no.74 - our 15th year of publication - and we have a new issue out tomorrow. 
Please buy and help the starving pigeons of the world unite. Available from odd 
looking people down Sir Matt Busby Way before the game.

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[41] You are Big Vern - Viz character!
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
You Are Big Vern
(The Shotgun guide to man management)

Have you got what it takes to be be a top line manager, coping with the pressures of 
holding together a team of star players?  Anyone can be a football coach - just take a 
couple of hundred cones and get your players to run around them all day - eazy innit?  
But have you got the man management skills to mould your team into one solid cohesive 
fighting unit?

1 - Your star player leaves your club for a bigger and better club

a) Go out and buy a bigger and better player
b) Point out that the players remaining in your squad are a good team unit and that 
you have many youngsters pushing for places in the first team
c) Get on your soap-box and threaten to "Shoot him"

2 - Your goalkeeper is unsure of whether to sign for your club or move to another 
bigger club and generally buggering you about

a) Try and bend over backwards to get him to stay as he's a good keeper
b) Relegate him to the A team and let him fester
c) Don't speak to him but throw him off the coach on the way to a game
saying "what the f**k, he'll bounce"

3 - Your star striker who has supported the club since he was born is having a few 
personal problems which are interfering with his on field performance

a) Carry on playing him and ignore the problem
b) Try to get him the help he needs to get back to the levels that he has proved he 
can play at previously
c) Call a press conference and call him "a nutter" make references to the failure of 
the Care in the Community program.

4 - A player you signed has a weight problem and isn't pulling this not inconsiderable 
weight fully in games or training.  Do you?

a) Ask him if he knows the best solution to greasy hair?
b) In a private conversation tell the player what you expect of him and that you will 
not pick him until he regains his fitness.  Get him to cut his hair.
c) Talk to the press and call him a "fat c**t", "a coward" and "stupid" thereby 
instantly doubling his value in the transfer market.  Inform the country that you wish 
you'd never signed him


5 - You chairman is getting old and is renowned for being as tight as a gnat's chuff.  
You know he's got the dosh.  You also know he's got the arms of a T-Rex but pockets 
deeper than Joan Collins snatch.  Do you?

a) Get on with the job of picking the team
b) Threaten to resign if more funds are not forthcoming during a private meeting with 
the chairman
c) Storm into the chairman's office - stab a crowbar through his chest and fiercely 
rip out his heart.  Proceed to feast on the still beating organ in front of the old 
cretin.  Then call a press once you have calmed slightly. Talk to the press in a fit 
of rage calling him a "f*cking tight old bastard".  Apologise to any remaining members 
of the chairman's family but leave a veiled threat of "they had better not cross" you 
- after all, you "know people!"

6 - Your team refuse to score any goals for you after you have pissed them all off 
with your mad antics.  Do you?

a) Resign
b) Arrange a team meeting to find out the best way to sort out problem. Having weighed 
up the opinions decide upon your course of action.
c) Go off to Central America to buy a striker that no-one has heard of but you'll pay 
him triple what everyone else at the club is earning in the team to give you another 
12 months in the job.  Shoot the rest of your players before turning the barrel on 
yourself on live TV shouting "No f*cker's gonna take me alive!".

Answers:

All a's You are as timid as Terry Burton's pet mouse, perhaps football
management isn't the  ideal career path for you.  A career in TV awaits. Punditry, 
presenting, or maybe appearing on crap quiz shows hosted by stunted little twats who 
crap themselves when confronted by supporters of the club he spends getting cheap 
laughs out of on his sad excuse for a show. What the hell is one of England's greatest 
batsmen doing embarrassing himself with the runt anyway? Ahem!

All b's You are a bold manager who believes in his own convictions (unless you're 
George Graham) and rules with a firm but fair hand.

All c's Congratulations you have won an advertising contract with Smith and Wesson.

Copyright Red News 2001

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[40] Attention all Doc's Red Army members!
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Good new Utd site by top Red Steve worth checking out.

(link:http://mufcindiv21974.homestead.com/Title.html) 
htt

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2001-01-20 Thread news

 
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[51] Shotgun speaks
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"Angel has been given international clearance to play so he's going to be involved 
tomorrow."
 
On Ginola "He's got on with his training.  There's always a lot of rubbish said" 
[mostly by you mate] "and printed in the press.  David has to work hard to get in the 
team and once he's in the team work hard to stay there."
 
"We tend not to do match reports on Manchester United.  I don't want to scare anyone"

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[50] Yorke on himself and Shotgun
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
On not being in the side all the time
 
"Yes it is frustrating what with injuries and suspension but I'm fully fit and raring 
to go now if I get in the team."
 
"Hopefully Villa will go home disapponted on the day.  I left because I didn't think 
they'd go any further than they had and they haven't."
 
When asked about if he keeps in touch with much of the team he says "Just Gareth 
Southgate who's out tomorrow.  People like Ugo have gone to Middlesborough now"
 
When asked about Gregory [laughing] he says "Well he certainly says what he thinks"

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[49] Giggs on Spain and Villa
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"It was a change of scenery.  We managed to do some good training out there and we 
played a couple of rounds of golf which were relaxing.  The pitches were brilliant, 
you've got an extra spring in your step now."
 
On Villa.  "They don't give anything away and they're a good defensive side so we 
expect a tough game."
 
"Dion's  a good player, a good goalscorer and a great finisher"

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[48] Fergie on Villa
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
There's a freshness there.  I've got four strikers available for the first time in 
quite a while.
 
On Dion, "He was one of the finest players to play here in terms of his attitude.  He 
was just unlucky that when he came back Eric Cantona was just starting to get 
established in the team.  He had to think of his career, he went to Coventry and did 
marvellously well for them"
 
"Scholes is still not ready.  We're going to give him another week."

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[47] Fergie on the Train in Spain
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
The weather wasn't great - I think it was around about 10 degrees, but the training 
facilities were absolutely marvellous.
 
"They're a great bunch together on or off the pitch.  Some of them want to play cards 
or golf, some want to go and watch the motor racing but they all get on great when 
they're together and the trip means they can spend more time together and brings them 
even closer."
 
"It's a great feeling when you know you're over halfway through the League season"

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[46] Pancho on Bossie
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"I think the clun is entitled to put him on the transfer list and get a few bob for 
him."
 
"I'm not saying his attitude's bad towards training, it's just that laid back 
attitude."
 
"I think if he's going to get into that Chelsea team he has got to start working on 
his body [we think his contract with Hollands Pies show his committment to that] and a 
lot of stomach work.  It looks as though it probably kills him when he does all that 
because he doesn't look as though he's the right body for it."

"He needs someone to get hold of him."

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[45] Giggs on Bosnich
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"Bossie was a quality keeper and still is so I'm sure he'll do well given the chance 
at Chelsea"

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[44] Dwight on Bosnich's exit (not new page in Karma Sutra)
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"I'm sure Mark would have loved to stay here and see his contract out and wanted to do 
well for the club because I think it's a dream to play for Manchester United.  He 
started off here as a junior and came back and won the League with us.  I'm sure he 
would have loved to establish himself as number one again this year but unfortunately 
a lot of injuries, a lot of suspensions [is he talking about official internal 
suspension here as we don't remember him being banned by any authorities?] and 
obviously Fabio coming in means it's a very difficult time for him.  I think that the 
move to Chelsea is an exciting one for him and I'm sure all the lads here will wish 
him all the best."

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[43] Fergie on Bosnich
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[51] Shotgun speaks
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"Angel has been given international clearance to play so he's going to be involved 
tomorrow."
 
On Ginola "He's got on with his training.  There's always a lot of rubbish said" 
[mostly by you mate] "and printed in the press.  David has to work hard to get in the 
team and once he's in the team work hard to stay there."
 
"We tend not to do match reports on Manchester United.  I don't want to scare anyone"

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[50] Yorke on himself and Shotgun
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
On not being in the side all the time
 
"Yes it is frustrating what with injuries and suspension but I'm fully fit and raring 
to go now if I get in the team."
 
"Hopefully Villa will go home disapponted on the day.  I left because I didn't think 
they'd go any further than they had and they haven't."
 
When asked about if he keeps in touch with much of the team he says "Just Gareth 
Southgate who's out tomorrow.  People like Ugo have gone to Middlesborough now"
 
When asked about Gregory [laughing] he says "Well he certainly says what he thinks"

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[49] Giggs on Spain and Villa
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"It was a change of scenery.  We managed to do some good training out there and we 
played a couple of rounds of golf which were relaxing.  The pitches were brilliant, 
you've got an extra spring in your step now."
 
On Villa.  "They don't give anything away and they're a good defensive side so we 
expect a tough game."
 
"Dion's  a good player, a good goalscorer and a great finisher"

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[48] Fergie on Villa
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
There's a freshness there.  I've got four strikers available for the first time in 
quite a while.
 
On Dion, "He was one of the finest players to play here in terms of his attitude.  He 
was just unlucky that when he came back Eric Cantona was just starting to get 
established in the team.  He had to think of his career, he went to Coventry and did 
marvellously well for them"
 
"Scholes is still not ready.  We're going to give him another week."

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[47] Fergie on the Train in Spain
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
The weather wasn't great - I think it was around about 10 degrees, but the training 
facilities were absolutely marvellous.
 
"They're a great bunch together on or off the pitch.  Some of them want to play cards 
or golf, some want to go and watch the motor racing but they all get on great when 
they're together and the trip means they can spend more time together and brings them 
even closer."
 
"It's a great feeling when you know you're over halfway through the League season"

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[46] Pancho on Bossie
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"I think the clun is entitled to put him on the transfer list and get a few bob for 
him."
 
"I'm not saying his attitude's bad towards training, it's just that laid back 
attitude."
 
"I think if he's going to get into that Chelsea team he has got to start working on 
his body [we think his contract with Hollands Pies show his committment to that] and a 
lot of stomach work.  It looks as though it probably kills him when he does all that 
because he doesn't look as though he's the right body for it."

"He needs someone to get hold of him."

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[45] Giggs on Bosnich
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"Bossie was a quality keeper and still is so I'm sure he'll do well given the chance 
at Chelsea"

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[44] Dwight on Bosnich's exit (not new page in Karma Sutra)
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
"I'm sure Mark would have loved to stay here and see his contract out and wanted to do 
well for the club because I think it's a dream to play for Manchester United.  He 
started off here as a junior and came back and won the League with us.  I'm sure he 
would have loved to establish himself as number one again this year but unfortunately 
a lot of injuries, a lot of suspensions [is he talking about official internal 
suspension here as we don't remember him being banned by any authorities?] and 
obviously Fabio coming in means it's a very difficult time for him.  I think that the 
move to Chelsea is an exciting one for him and I'm sure all the lads here will wish 
him all the best."

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[43] Fergie on Bosnich
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Posted Friday, January 19, 2001 by Doc'sArmy:
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[25] Dannys' a T**ttio
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
So, after saying that they shouldn't mention relegation, what does Danny do? - 
Convicts eh!

"As soon as we start talking about relegation, we will start to slide and slide and 
there will be no getting back. We had a long player meeting on Monday and it was clear 
then that the confidence is still there - everyone believes we can still pull 
ourselves out of this. The situation is bad but it can be rescued. 

"You can talk about luck as much as you want but the facts are that we have not been 
scoring goals and we have been conceding some poor ones, which is disappointing. One 
win would probably bring another, and another, and that would probably pull us clear. 
All we need is that little bit of luck - I'm sorry but it does seem to keep coming 
back to that." 



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[24] Fergie on crocks
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
"Scholes is still out. He's been training fine, but we're erring on the side of 
caution at this time of year, and with the Valencia game looming on the horizon," 
Fergie revealed.

"Another week out won't do him any harm. If you get another knock in this weather, it 
can turn out pretty sore. He'll be available next Sunday against West Ham.

"Nicky Butt is available, he's fit. His hip was tender after Fulham, but he's fine. 
All four strikers are available - they all trained this week in Spain.


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[23] Fergie pleased to have Jaap back
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
"Jaap's trained all week - he's looking forward to playing," 
"It's like a new season for him - he and Andy Cole are as fresh as daisies.
Jaap's return is a boost for Wes Brown, too. It was coming to the point where he 
needed a rest. He's earnt it, and now he'll enjoy watching the others. He'll pick up 
things from Gary and Jaap and he'll be a better player when he comes back.


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[22] Fergie Butts in on Nickys behalf
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
"In terms of what Sven has available, I think Nicky is better than any other midfield 
player in the country, at what he does,
" "Gerard is up there, but there's not many others. Nicky is having one of his best 
seasons at the club."

"Nicky's a victim of the circumstances at Manchester United, but that should not stop 
him from playing for his country. There have been times when David Beckham has been 
out wide on the right.

"He's also been unlucky. He played against Italy but got injured after twenty minutes. 
I thought he would have done well in that type of game.

"Every time he comes into the team his appetite is unbelievable. He has the belief 
that he can get a game all the time, which is great. His performance levels are great 
too. I think he's better than the other midfield players who have been mentioned in 
England squads over the last couple of years."


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[21] 'Astute businessman'* says Massive are the Titanic
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
*Soccernets words, not ours

As Franny says:

'Don't be too harsh on Joe, ' 
'After all, he is trying to raise the Titanic.'

And look what a flop that film was!! 

'City have to stick with Joe. It would be stupid to think of changing manager at this 
crucial stage in the season. If they bring in a new man and it all goes wrong that 
would be it - they'd be down. 

'I've told Joe he did a fantastic job in getting the team promoted but things just 
haven't gelled this time. There is something radically wrong with the strategy. 

'He may have been able to build a team around Paulo Wanchope and George Weah, but Weah 
has gone and it will be difficult to replace him with a quality player. 

'The club have got money to spend but nowadays the top players want the chance to play 
in the Champions League and they know City can't give them that. And the club has 
already spent a hell of a lot on buying defenders, yet we still have the worst 
defensive record in the Premiership. 

Who needs us to wind Littledick (and MAssive fans)up when they do such a good job of 
it themselves!


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[20] Fergie on Fatty - not bothered
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Posted Saturday, January 20, 2001 by tb:
"I'm not bothered where he has gone, not bothered at all.

"Our chief executive Peter Kenyon contacted me in Spain and said his agent wanted to 
have permission to go to London to have talks about a transfer to another club. I said 
fine.

"If I had wanted to know where he was going, I would have made sure I knew. I would 
have made a stipulation about where he was going.

"But it did not matter to me where he went and I've not spoken to Mark.

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[22] Don't forget the IMUSA petition
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
Fed up of the ever spiralling cost of your Season Ticket LMTB or
match day ticket ?

Can't afford to take the next generation of Reds along due to
the cost ?   
Then don't hesitate do your bit and support IMUSA in this campaign.

IMUSA Online Petition

IMUSA wish to see no ticket price rises for the 2001/2002
season.
If you support IMUSA in their campaign, please sign the petition
below at :
(link:http://www.imusa.org/petition/index.htm) http://www.imusa.org/petition/index.htm

IMUSA want to see match ticket prices frozen in the short term,
& in the longer term IMUSA wish to see prices reduced, especially in
certain categories eg Younger fans.

The February board meeting is the time when prices are set for
the following season, so we need to act now and encourage every United fan we know to 
visit the website, sign the petition and add your comments, we MUST make our points 
count and voices heard.

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[21] Scoutmaster buying conterfeit goods?
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
As reports suggest that Arsenal's £1m purchase of Tomas Danilevicius is reportedly 
under investigation amid claims of a fake Greek passport.

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[20] You can stick your effing Ingerlund..
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
As teamtalk reports that certain Ingelund regulars aren't too impressed with Becks 
being kept as captain, esp as Donkey has called it quits (see earlier story). No 
names, no quotes so could just be the usual tosh.

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[19] Grobbleshite wants to go back to where he belongs
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
A perfect match I'll think you'll agree!!

'My main ambition in life is to coach Liverpool. I want to give back what the club and 
the city and the British public have done for me. Liverpool was my life. 

Once a bindipper, always a bindipper

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[18] Jaap talks up a treble
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
'The Treble can be done again but it will be very difficult because everybody gives 
that little extra against us,' he said. 'There is a lot of envy and dislike for United 
but that just makes you want to go on and make all of them suffer. 

'We have to cope by working harder than everyone else.'



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[17] Jaap happy with life
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
'I said before I came here that United were my favourite club in Europe so when the 
chance comes along to join them you jump at it,' he added. 'I like the life in 
Manchester and I don't see any reason for me to move somewhere else.' 



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[16] Jaap also praises Gary
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
'I am sure we will have a great part-nership together, although I would never 
under-rate the contribution Gary Neville has made while I've been out. It is always 
nice to play alongside somebody week in, week out because you can grow together. 

'You get used to each other and you know what the other will do in certain situations. 
I've played with Wes before and it went well. It was the same with Gary.' 



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[15] Jaap on life after Fergie
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
'It will be difficult for everybody when the boss leaves but it is a fact of life that 
he will retire at the end of next season, and that is something myself and the rest of 
the players will have to deal with. 

'We have to go on. The club will do everything in their power to appoint somebody who 
is almost equal to the gaffer, which will not be easy because he is one of the best in 
the world. 

'It will be important to keep the team together and if we can do that, a big part of 
the club will still be intact and we can continue to be as successful as we have while 
he has been in charge.' 



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[14] Jaap on Wes
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Posted Sunday, January 21, 2001 by tb:
'For me he is as good as there is around and I am sure I will be competing with him at 
international level for a long time.' 

'The timing of my absence, with Wes coming back after a year out through injury, was 
just right,' said the Dutchman. 

'Wes is without question one of the leading candidates for an England place, because I 
rate him as high as everybody rates Rio Ferdinand and Jonathan Woodgate in that 
position. 

'I know a lot of people were wondering whether he would get back to where he was 
before the injury. Not only has he proved that, maybe he is even better. 

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[36] You can just go and shag yourself then
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
Possible Utd transfer target Frederick Kanoute basically blows any chances of that out 
of the water with this pile of shite. "I don't really like the North. It's always 
raining, it's really cold and I don't like all those little houses".

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[35] Leading Premiership scorers
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
FA CARLING PREMIERSHIP: 17 Sheringham (Man Utd); Stewart (Ipswich). 
16 Hasselbaink (Chelsea). 15 Heskey (Liverpool. 14 Henry (Arsenal); 
Phillips (Sunderland); Viduka (Leeds). 13 Johansson (Charlton). 12 
Wanchope (Man City). 11 Bartlett (Charlton, 9 for FC Zurich); Owen 
(Liverpool); Solskjaer (Man Utd). 10 Beattie (Southampton); Boksic 
(Middlesbrough). Christie (Derby).  

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[34] Got to be an Arse player or Scouser
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
One leading England player told Sports Mirror yesterday: "With due respect to  David 
Beckham, what credentials does he have to lead his country?  He has little experience 
and isn't even considered ready for the job  at Manchester United.  There are far more 
established players ahead of him, some with vast  experience at club level who command 
widespread respect throughout  the ranks.  I am not knocking his future potential to 
lead the country because  I'm sure his time will come. But it's too early now. If you 
were to  survey the current squad of England players, Tony Adams would get most 
votes." 

Jealousy of the highest order.

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[33] United Review makes plea
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
To stop singing the Russian submarine song.

The club in Saturday's match programme: "This is a wholly  inappropriate link and one 
most United supporters find distasteful  and short on humour.  "Let us not forget a 
British recue team lent their expertise in the  attempt to save the trapped sailors.  
It is not beyond the realms of possibility that at least one of  those involved in the 
rescue mission was a United supporter. How  would they react to hearing their fellow 
fans singing this song?" 

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[32] Shotgun on Bosnich
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
Gregory said: "I was devastated to lose Bosnich.  He's a great keeper and I thought 
he'd be a huge success at  Manchester United. I'm very surprised it didn't work out.  
It's an inspired signing for Chelsea as he's a brilliant keeper. And  it will give him 
what he needs - top-class action again." 


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[31] Bosnich could have joined R.Boys earlier
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Chelsea bid for me three years ago. I had another  two years on my contract but I was 
desperate to go. Although I'd  played in two great teams that had won the League Cup I 
couldn't see  Villa progressing much further."

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[30] massive attempt to stop hoaxes
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From the Mirror: 'A FOOL-PROOF method of ridding radio phone-ins of phoney callers is 
> to make everyone who takes part give their age and the team they  support, then ask 
>a simple question about their formative years as a  fan.  If a man came on the 
>midweek 606 show claiming to be a 51-year-old  Chelsea fan, you could ask him to name 
>the three pivotal figures at his club in the early 60s.'

Well, considering the show is usually fronted by people clueless about today's 
football beating the questioners should be fairly easy to the Reds who keep getting on.

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[29] Sven's assistant happy with Cole
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
Grip said: "Alan Shearer has always been the man in front of Andy  Cole, so it has 
been difficult for him with England. In the games he  has been involved in he has not 
started that many.  Now Shearer has retired we have to try to find another goalscorer. 
 Cole is one. He is also a hard worker.  This is the first time I have seen him live 
at Old Trafford. He has  been out with an injury for a long time but he looked very 
sharp when he came on." 


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[28] Wenger backs Adams
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Posted Monday, January 22, 2001 by bar-knee:
Over his decision to spit out his dummy now Becks is captain?

"It's a wise decision for him, health and body wise. Even if you have no problems with 
your health it is a very demanding job now to play at international and club level. 
And Tony has had some health problems. If he'd carried on he would have had to play 
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[35] More pre-season tour details
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From Teamtalk

"United have confirmed they will field their star players when they  face the Thailand 
national team at Bangkok's Rajamangala Stadium on 
July 28.  The details of the Premiership champions' visit were revealed  yesterday by 
the FA of Thailand president Vijitr Getkaew and  secretary-general Worawi Makudi." 

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[34] Celtic deny Larsson United bid claims
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
Martin O'Neill said: "That is the biggest lot of nonsense I have heard 
in a very, very long time."

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[33] Man found guilty of Posh clothes crime
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Mark Oliver has been convicted of handling Victoria Beckham's stolen designer 
clothes.'

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[32] Bobby Charlton on Ole
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I don't know anybody who makes up his mind quicker than him. I am not just talking 
about strikers in the modern game - I have never seen anyone like him in the modern 
era. He's amazing. The best and most dangerous thing about Ole Gunnar is that he 
decides what he's going to do with the ball very quickly.

It makes him such a difficult striker for opponents to handle. Defenders think they 
have more time than they actually have. They are preparing to close him down or attack 
him after the first touch and before they know it he has put the ball away. It is the 
same for goalkeepers. It doesn't matter how the ball will come to Ole - whether it is 
a volley, half-volley or whatever, he'll know what he is going to do when the ball is 
in flight. Keepers can't read him. They are always having to react to him that split 
second later than they would prefer.

I watch him closely when we travel in Europe and sometimes I watch them practise and 
maybe field a few balls for them in training before a Champions League match. I study 
Ole shooting, and when a ball is coming to him and you are thinking about what he's 
going to do and wondering what he might try, in that time he has already done it. He 
is very instinctive. It doesn't matter whether it is his right foot or left. He'll 
decide the best option and have a crack. He is a clinical finisher. It is a gift that 
Solskjaer has got. He is natural and he is unique. It is something you can't teach."


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[31] Stam on England players
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I'm sure Sven would have been impressed with the English players on show, especially 
the two strikers, Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham on Saturday. They're both great 
players for United and I think they'd make a fantastic partnership for England as 
well. They know each other's games very well, where and how they make their runs, and 
I'm certain they could do what they do for United for England as well."

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[30] Adams move is good for us in the long term - Gary Nev
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Tony Adam's retirement from international football will be a major blow to the 
English game. In terms of influence and presence, both on and off the field, Tony 
Adams was our leader and he should have been captain more times then he was. He's a 
fantastic centre-half and someone who we all looked up to.

On the other side of the coin, it opens the door for the squad to be rebuilt with the 
tremendous youngsters coming through like Rio and Wes. I also think the opportunity is 
now there for the likes of Steven Gerrard, Jonathan Woodgate, Michael Owen, Emile 
Heskey, Kieron Dyer and the other youngsters who've already established themselves. We 
have a new manager and although we're going to miss the likes of Tony Adams and Alan 
Shearer, I'm sure he'll relish the chance to develop his own squad of players."

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[29] Tabloid titbits
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
Posh Spice and Becks aren't interested in buying an island off the coast of Essex, but 
she is "tight" according to her ex-bodyguard she has fallen out with and revealed in 
the court case concerning her missing clothes, etc.
Jordan and Dwight are either closer than ever as she is spotted  "spoon feeding" 
towards Dwight according to the Mirror or things have fallen flat according to the SUN 
as she was all over Finaly Quaye. And Becks is after a £185,000 Lamborghini Diablo GT 
from Italy according to the SUN. Must be true then. 

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[28] Scunthorpe physio - THE GREAT DEBATE
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Posted Tuesday, January 23, 2001 by bar-knee:
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[49] Teddy on season so far
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
Sheringham on season so far

"It's great to have a run in the side and it's nice to see my name up on the 
team-sheet"

"At this club you know you've got to be playing at your very best all the time, 
otherwise you're going to be on the bench or on your way out.  It's as simple as that"


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[48] Reminder
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
Reserve team football: Tonight Utd play top of the table Sunderland - Gigg Lane at 
7.00 - live on MUTV, we will bring you the result as the game finishes.

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[47] Motson - I fancy O'Neill at Old Trafford
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
BBC Sport's John Motson: "O'Neill's arrival at Parkhead and suggests he could 
eventually manage Manchester United.  Martin O'Neill is one of the greatest managers 
of his generation and he has certainly turned his Bhoys into men since he walked into 
the Celtic hotseat...His style is similar to that of Alex Ferguson. Both have a strong 
personality, say exactly what they think and both have applied their Midas
touch at every club they have managed.  

In fact, I can see O'Neill one day succeeding Sir Alex at Manchester United - but only 
once he has filled the Celtic trophy cabinet twice over.  United need someone with 
real character to step into Ferguson's shoes, otherwise his successor will constantly 
live in his shadow - this is why O'Neill fits the bill perfectly.  O'Neill, who learnt 
his trade as a player under Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest, would argue that he has 
enough on his plate at Celtic to even consider taking on the United job."


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[46] Healy on leaving United
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
"There's no place like United, but if you're not going to play first team football you 
need to move on.  The gaffer called me in and told me that my first team opportunities 
would be limited.  He knows the set-up at Preston and as soon as he told me that they 
are a good club with a lot of good young talent I knew I wanted to go."

Perhaps Fergie could tell Mr Greening that York are an equally good club?

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[45] Lack of atmosphere
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From our Deep Throat:

" Article in the official magazine - cites 3 of the main reasons for the lack of 
atmosphere in recent years

1 - End of terracing
2 - Supporter complacency
3 - Shift in the type of fans attending

Fergie

"Some fans come and sit and admire our beautiful stadium with their bags full of 
goodies from the megastore.  It's a day out for them.  They just relax and want to be 
entertained but football games are a people's passion too.  It's their release from 
the jobs they do every day.  They have to go into work on the Monday and work with 
city fans - that's what supporting a team is about."

Ken Ramsden on how the atmosphere can be improved

"One of the greatest things Alex Ferguson's done is keep the players hungry. As 
supporters though I think we come, sit down, fold our arms and say 'entertain us' but 
I think there is no easy answer.  Everybody has been trying to get a solution but I 
think ultimately, it's in the fans' hands. Until the fans start getting in the ground 
from two o'clock onwards in numbers, then the atmosphere won't improve.  It's not a 
light switch.  You can't just turn it on at kick-off and we're all suddenly excited.  
We need to build an atmosphere.  It's important to the players and if it's important 
to the fans then maybe they should try getting in early for one of two games and see 
if it makes a difference."

In other words send the wife shopping on her own! [slap]"

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[44] Jordi in official mag
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
Jordi Cruyff warns United of a new Valencia player this year

"Ruben Baraja.  He is a hard working midfielder, with good technique"

On the Ginger Prince

"Scholesy is probably the most complete player at United.  He is the type of player I 
like, someone with special abilities.  I wouldn't know who to compare him with."


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[43] Raimond waiting for new contract offer
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Posted Wednesday, January 24, 2001 by bar-knee:
Raimond Van Der Gouw: "The club have yet to talk to me about a new contract, but I  
would like to extend my stay with United. The club have been positive towards me 
recently so I'm  hoping everything will be sorted out soon. At the moment I am looking 
around as well because United  might not extend my contract. America is a possibility, 
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[35] YOUR FANZINE NEED YOU!
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Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
For our next issue of Red News, conveniently coming out on the 25th anniversary week, 
we're doing some specials to mark the event, one of which will be a look at some 
memorable 'massive' moments over the past 25 years. Not the obvious memories as they 
will be well covered (like every one of their relegation failures perhaps) and every 
one will perhaps end up choosing the 5-0. So we want the more subtle memories - like 
being a Utd fan in the away celebrating at Notts County when city went down in '83 or 
Alan Ball telling his players to keep ball because he thought they'd only need a draw 
to stay up when they needed a win, and thus kept the ball in a corner to relegate 
themselves. That type of memory.
We'd like to feature some RN readers magic memories from the 25 years as well as our 
contributors - both in the fanzine and on this site.
So if you have a specific great recollection send it to us at
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[34] Hoolahoop learns local customs
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Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
Being close to the Mickeys on a regular basis has obviously taught 
Hoolahoop a thing or two as he proclaims wisely:

"Sometimes if you spit in the air, it comes back at you," 

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[33] The stats say it all
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Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
'ammers record at Old Trafford 1987-2001  

Played: 11
Won: O
Drawn: 0
Lost: 11

For: 7
Against: 31 

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[32] Kick racism out
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Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From MEN:

'FOOTBALLERS from both the Red and Blue sides of Manchester forgot  their rivalries to 
stick the boot into racism. United striker Andy Cole was joined by City's Whitley 
brothers, Jeff  and Jim, and Richard Jobson for the north west premiere of Remember  
the Titans.

The film starring Denzel Washington, with an anti-racist theme, is  helping to launch 
the Kick It Out advertising campaign on TV, fronted  by Leeds star Rio Ferdinand and 
former Liverpool player John Barnes.

All the players admitted huge strides had been made to rid  professional football of 
the scourge of racism, both on the terraces  and on the pitch. But it took the 
recollections of former City  goalkeeper Alex Williams to underline how attitudes have 
improved.

"I remember one game at Everton. I was running out for the second  half when one 
Everton fan screwed up his programme into a cross and  burned it. I was 19 and it was 
really intimidating," said Alex, now 
football in the community manager for the Blues.

Richard Jobson said: "The message seems to be getting across. I 
wouldn't say racism has been eradicated but it's getting that way."

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[31] Wage concerns at United
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Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
United's deputy chief executive David Gill said: "We don't specifically speak about 
players' wages and contracts because we think it's a personal thing between the club 
and that particular player. So you will never see anything coming out from the club 
indicating that a player is earning this or that. I think for it come out in this way 
is a source of frustration and potentially leads to unrest.

I think we have the advantage at Manchester United in that we treat the players well 
and we treat them fairly and I think they recognise that. Hopefully a player reading 
that X earns a particular sum of money doesn't enter their heads or concern them, but 
I don't think you're ever going to change this and that's the problem.

The facts are we don't divulge that information. Newspapers have to write stories and 
in order for those stories to carry weight or interest they've got to put these huge 
figures in. That's a problem which I can't see ever being solved."


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[30] This is gospel - don't try this at home?
-
Posted Thursday, January 25, 2001 by bar-knee:
The following is taken word-for-word from a Mormon pamphlet, For 
Young Men Only, published about 15 years ago... 

1. Pray daily. Ask for the gifts of the spirit which will strengthen 
you against temptation. Pray fervently and out loud when the 
temptations are strongest. When the temptation to masturbate is 
strong, yell "STOP" to those thoughts as loudly as you can in your 
mind. Then recite a portion of the Bible or sing a hymn. 
[Oh no its happening again - (shouting) STOP! STOP! - 
(now singing)What a friend we have in Jesus, and his name is Cantona...] 

It's a beautiful image you have to admit.


2. Set a goal of abstinence. Begin with a day, then a week, a month 
and year. Finally, commit yourself to never doing it again. Make a 
pocket calendar for a month

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2001-01-26 Thread news

 
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[22] Editor's modem really is shagged
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
It turns out the editor wasn't just after a night out on the piss last night followed 
by a long lie in. His modem really is shagged - we've seen the death certificate.

So news will not be gushing in your face with the usual youthful vigour to which 
you've become accustomed. There should be a few more spurts this afternoon and 
probably a splash around home time. Which is nice.


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[21] Reserves v Sunderland report
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
BDS ejaculates thus:
Utd came to Gigg lane to face a Sunderland side who were top of the league and had 
only lost once all season - in fact on the 3 previous occasions Utd have faced 
Sunderland, they have failed to win.

Superstar stared the game again and looked solid against a lively black cat side and 
it must only be a matter of time before the enforced squad rotation system that Sir 
Alex is fond of, favours a return to the first team for him

With a pitch cut up due to rugby at the weekend and rain showers, the game hardly had 
the slick passing or movement that would have been expected - in fact the heavy pitch 
only took 18 minutes before it gained it's first casualty - the referee (a scouser), 
who limped off with a hamstring strain - unconfirmed reports are of the dressing rooms 
being raided by thieves - all players possessions were removed, except for Jonathan 
Greenings lucky charm (on the basis that it is faulty).

According to Paddy Crerrand, the refs replacement is a Manchester lad and that he and 
his family are ST holders at OT - the fact that decisions started going Utd's way were 
purely coincidental.

Both teams were restricted to only two chances each in the first half and it ended 0:0 
at half time. 

The second half was slower as the pitch took its toll on the players - Utd played much 
better as their 5 man midfield started to take control of a tired Sunderland - 51 
minutes gone and Luke Chadwick dribbled between the final 2 black cat defenders and 
from the edge of the box, slotted the ball past the keeper.

Greening continued to have the sort of game we are used to at first team level - 
Wilson and Chadwick had several chances on goal, but only the Sunderland keeper (who 
read the game well) stopped Utd from running away with the game with a series of fine 
saves.

Final score 1.0 and Utd remain unbeaten at home this season.

Team :
Rachubka (weyhey no fatty), Pugh, Superstar, Michael Clegg, Wallwork,
Wilson, Chadwick, Greening, Cosgrove (Wood) , Stewart, Djordjic.

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[20] Butt on the Lge, the Cup & Europe too
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
"It's an old cliche, but we can only take one game at a time at the moment. We've got 
a good lead in the table, but we can't take our foot of the pedal yet. We want to 
destroy the League." 

[Now you're talking.]

"Another Double would be brilliant, as would winning the Champions League again. But 
the next game is the biggest thing at the moment, we just have to keep focussing on 
that."

[Any sign of that scooter yet?]

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[19] Butt on Ham
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
...mers

"The 4-1 win will not reflect on anything on Sunday. We got off to a flier against 
them on New Years Day, but if that one hadn't gone in it could have been a different 
story. We're still confident though. The first half was an exceptional performance 
from the lads. I don't think West Ham knew what hit them."

"They are very resilient - tough to beat, with a good team spirit. But we're confident 
of beating anyone at Old Trafford. They've got a good forward line with di Canio and 
Kanoute, they're good players with a lot of ability on the ball. They work hard for 
each other, and that comes through more than individuals."


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[18] Butt on Cup
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
Nicky Butt:

"Everyone's the same at the club, we all look forward to the Cup. It's a different 
atmosphere from League games, something special. It's hard to describe, but other 
teams come out and play, it makes for a better spectacle for the fans, who seem more 
up for it too. They'll have a lot of fans here, too, so the rivalry and singing make 
for a good occasion."

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[17] Teddy wins GM Award
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
manutd.com reports:

Teddy was last night named the Greater Manchester Sports Personality of the Year 2000.

"To come out on top with an award like this is great." 

In winning the prize, Teddy beat off competition from eleven other local sportsmen, 
including his team-mates Fabien Bar

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2001-01-26 Thread news

 
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[22] Editor's modem really is shagged
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
It turns out the editor wasn't just after a night out on the piss last night followed 
by a long lie in. His modem really is shagged - we've seen the death certificate.

So news will not be gushing in your face with the usual youthful vigour to which 
you've become accustomed. There should be a few more spurts this afternoon and 
probably a splash around home time. Which is nice.


-
[21] Reserves v Sunderland report
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
BDS ejaculates thus:
Utd came to Gigg lane to face a Sunderland side who were top of the league and had 
only lost once all season - in fact on the 3 previous occasions Utd have faced 
Sunderland, they have failed to win.

Superstar stared the game again and looked solid against a lively black cat side and 
it must only be a matter of time before the enforced squad rotation system that Sir 
Alex is fond of, favours a return to the first team for him

With a pitch cut up due to rugby at the weekend and rain showers, the game hardly had 
the slick passing or movement that would have been expected - in fact the heavy pitch 
only took 18 minutes before it gained it's first casualty - the referee (a scouser), 
who limped off with a hamstring strain - unconfirmed reports are of the dressing rooms 
being raided by thieves - all players possessions were removed, except for Jonathan 
Greenings lucky charm (on the basis that it is faulty).

According to Paddy Crerrand, the refs replacement is a Manchester lad and that he and 
his family are ST holders at OT - the fact that decisions started going Utd's way were 
purely coincidental.

Both teams were restricted to only two chances each in the first half and it ended 0:0 
at half time. 

The second half was slower as the pitch took its toll on the players - Utd played much 
better as their 5 man midfield started to take control of a tired Sunderland - 51 
minutes gone and Luke Chadwick dribbled between the final 2 black cat defenders and 
from the edge of the box, slotted the ball past the keeper.

Greening continued to have the sort of game we are used to at first team level - 
Wilson and Chadwick had several chances on goal, but only the Sunderland keeper (who 
read the game well) stopped Utd from running away with the game with a series of fine 
saves.

Final score 1.0 and Utd remain unbeaten at home this season.

Team :
Rachubka (weyhey no fatty), Pugh, Superstar, Michael Clegg, Wallwork,
Wilson, Chadwick, Greening, Cosgrove (Wood) , Stewart, Djordjic.

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[20] Butt on the Lge, the Cup & Europe too
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
"It's an old cliche, but we can only take one game at a time at the moment. We've got 
a good lead in the table, but we can't take our foot of the pedal yet. We want to 
destroy the League." 

[Now you're talking.]

"Another Double would be brilliant, as would winning the Champions League again. But 
the next game is the biggest thing at the moment, we just have to keep focussing on 
that."

[Any sign of that scooter yet?]

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[19] Butt on Ham
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
...mers

"The 4-1 win will not reflect on anything on Sunday. We got off to a flier against 
them on New Years Day, but if that one hadn't gone in it could have been a different 
story. We're still confident though. The first half was an exceptional performance 
from the lads. I don't think West Ham knew what hit them."

"They are very resilient - tough to beat, with a good team spirit. But we're confident 
of beating anyone at Old Trafford. They've got a good forward line with di Canio and 
Kanoute, they're good players with a lot of ability on the ball. They work hard for 
each other, and that comes through more than individuals."


-
[18] Butt on Cup
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
Nicky Butt:

"Everyone's the same at the club, we all look forward to the Cup. It's a different 
atmosphere from League games, something special. It's hard to describe, but other 
teams come out and play, it makes for a better spectacle for the fans, who seem more 
up for it too. They'll have a lot of fans here, too, so the rivalry and singing make 
for a good occasion."

-
[17] Teddy wins GM Award
-
Posted Friday, January 26, 2001 by redend:
manutd.com reports:

Teddy was last night named the Greater Manchester Sports Personality of the Year 2000.

"To come out on top with an award like this is great." 

In winning the prize, Teddy beat off competition from eleven other local sportsmen, 
including his team-mates Fabien Bar

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2001-01-27 Thread news

 
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[35] More cup final tickets applauded
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
The Football Supporters' Association has hailed the increase in FA Cup tickets as a 
"step in the right direction".

The Football Association's have attempted to make the final "belong to the fans" by 
boosting the proportion of tickets sold to the finalists.

In Cardiff's Millennium Stadium, 71 per cent of the 73,500-capacity will be full of 
supporters - around 52,000 seats.

That is a proportionate rise of 10 per cent from last season's final between Aston 
Villa and Chelsea at Wembley and a real increase of about 1,000 in a smaller stadium.

FSA chair Malcolm Clarke said: "We regard this as a step in the right direction but we 
would like to see further steps being taken in the future.

"The bottom line for us is whether any extra fans will be able to see the game. There 
is a small increase this year and we would look for even more back at Wembley.

"The atmosphere benefits from having more supporters there, as is shown in other 
finals as well as FA Cup semi-finals played at Wembley."

FA director of marketing Paul Barber added: "A vital aspect of our remarketing of the 
FA Cup is that the final belongs to the fans.

"The ticket prices agreed by the FA board show how determined we are to make the 
showpiece final of the season more affordable for supporters."

While there were 11 price bands used at Wembley, there will now only be four at 
Cardiff - including £70 and £20, but with the two main brackets being at £55 and £40.



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[34] Beware Greeks bearing gifts
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
Newcastle United are remaining tight-lipped over fresh claims that Nolberto Solano 
could be expelled from the country.

Reports in recent days have suggested that the Peruvian is not entitled to the Greek 
passport which gives him dual nationality and negates the need for a work permit.

Oops!


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[33] 'Arry on tomorrows game
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
On seeing the draw:

"I sent back the players' cup final suits!"

And on the game itself:

"You couldn't ask a team of mine to go out and play for a draw," said Redknapp. "Not 
with Paolo di Canio and Joe Cole in it! Plus I am short of defenders, so how can we go 
there to defend?"

And on ‘the boy’ (Fergies expression for Joe Cole)
"If they are being talked about as England players, then they have to go to Old 
Trafford and turn it on," said Redknapp. "There is no hiding place there, they must 
show how good they are.

"Nothing seems to bother Cole, he will just go out and want the ball and Lampard has 
experienced playing against United a few times, so he should be okay.

"They will be playing against the likes of Paul Scholes, who is a top England player, 
and they have to prove they are every bit as good as these players and better. They 
must show they are capable of playing against the best."


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[32] Eric on autobiography
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
"The book took hours after hours to write. I'd go and sit in the dining room and write 
for three or fours hours. I never watched Coronation Street and I like Coronation 
Street! For any genuine football supporter it's a great read as it's from one extreme 
to another.

"The foreword that Sir Alex has written almost brought tears to my eyes. For a man of 
his standing to write that about me was fantastic. I'll never forget that."


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[31] Eric on his new life
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
"I do two or three nights a week with the Academy, working with fifteen and 
sixteen-year-olds. I scout at the weekends and I coach in the school holidays. I'm 
assistant manager with Wales. I'm supposed to be semi-retired! My golf's certainly not 
got any better. I enjoy my life now tremendously as it gives me a little bit of 
breathing space. Seven days and two nights a week was getting a little bit too much," 
he acknowledged


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[30] Eric's pride for team of '92
-
Posted Saturday, January 27, 2001 by tb:
"I don't think you had to be a rocket scientist to realise the quality of the players 
in 1992," "It's fairly well documented that when they were about seventeen I sat them 
down individually and told them they'd be in the first team. I thought it was 
important that I should give them that confidence. That helped them a lot. I genuinely 
believed it, I had no doubt."

"The 1995 FA Youth Cup final was tremendous - we seem to get nights like that at Old 
Trafford. I used to get excited watching them at any level, but the Youth Cup was 
fantastic. I remember the first leg when we were getting beaten 2-0 and Sp

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[52] Fergie on the pitch
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Ever since the rugby went on it, it has been an absolute nightmare. We will certainly 
need to be thinking about returfing it."

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[51] Fergie on Gary Nev
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Gary Neville was going on about the time added on. They were taking a minute every 
time they had a goal kick.  They added four minutes on but I thought there must be a 
lot more than that."

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[50] MEN reckons Gary Nev got Red card
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From MEN

"GARY Neville was sensationally red-carded after the final whistle 
blew on Manchester United's FA Cup hopes. M.E.N. Sport understands Neville used foul 
and abusive language  towards officials, who United players felt had failed to give 
Paolo  di Canio offside prior to his winning goal. They were also angry about the 
ref's timekeeping.

United now fear that Neville will face an automatic two-match ban  which will come 
into effect next month and would mean he misses the  Premiership matches against 
Arsenal on February 25 and the trip to  Leeds on March 3. There is also the prospect 
that the 25-year-old could face an FA  disciplinary charge on top of the ban. 

The Reds defender remonstrated with a linesman and referee Paul 
Durkin intervened. Eye witnesses said that the Reds' defender had been ordered to 
return  and face the music by a livid Durkin but ignored the ref and walked  off."

They also reveal that next November's Rugby league game has already began ticket sales 
- so another dodgy pitch will be ready this time next year then!

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[49] Leeds ticket details
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
Leeds United v Manchester United
Elland Road, Saturday 3rd March, Kick off 11.30am.

We have received an allocation of approximately 3300 tickets priced £27 adults £18 
under 16s/over 65s. Postal applications are now being accepted from Season Ticket 
Holders on production of voucher 35 (duly completed), letter of application, open 
cheque (made payable to MUFC), sae and the following 5 match vouchers properly affixed 
to the official token sheet: 31 (RSC Anderlecht) 32 (PSV Eindhoven) 33 (Dynamo Kiev) 
34 (Panathinaikos) and 37 (West Ham United).

Private Box/Exec Suite and Club Class Members can also apply in the usual manner 
quoting their facilities held.

All applications need to be received in the Ticket Office no later than 5p.m. on 
Monday 5th February. As we anticipate being heavily oversubscribed a postal ballot 
will be held to determine the successful applicants.'


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[48] Wanchope to leave the Titanic
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Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
This love affair lasted the usual length of time at city then. Wasn;t he going to be 
the next Rodney Marsh. Oh I get it, they meant he'll be a SKY reporter soon.

'Paulo Wanchope has been placed on the transfer list by Manchester City.  The Costa 
Rican striker was angry at being substituted in the 1-0 FA Cup win over Coventry at 
Maine Road on Saturday and clashed with manager Joe Royle. 

A meeting between the pair failed to resolve their differences, and
Wanchope has now been told he can leave the Premiership relegation
 rugglers. 

"Joe Royle met with the player this morning and feels it is in the best interests of 
the club that they part company," said chief operating officer Chris Bird. 

Leading scorer Wanchope was withdrawn after an ineffective performance
against Coventry and replaced by Shaun Goater, who scored the winner in the last 
minute. 

As he left the pitch he gesticulated to the coaching staff and brushed past physio Rob 
Harris.  But at the time Royle poured cold water on the incident and dismissed talk of 
a bust-up with the player.' 



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[47] Another early kick-off
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From official site.

"It has been announced that United's home match with Manchester City will kick off at 
12pm on Saturday 21 April, and will be live on Sky Sports."

Giving us time that night to celebrate sending them back down?

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[46] Quote of the day
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
New breed football wannabe David Soul (of car keys and clutch fame) on BBC 5live
 
"I was s pleased that Man U lost to the United of West Ham - not that I know a lot 
about soccer."

Says it all.

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[45] Please send some to the Red News address
-
Posted Monday, January 29, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Italians are set to trial a new sex drug which cl

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[31] United new PR caught in Indian earthquake
-
Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
United Communications Director Paddy Harverson was caught in the earthquake that 
devastated India - FA-Premier.com reveals he was on his first major overseas trip for 
the club working with UNICEF, United's designated international charity.

Harverson told FA-Premier.com: "It was very scary and not an experience I'd like to go 
through again. I had just got up in the morning and was getting dressed when the 
hotel, which was a high-rise block, started rocking. You could feel the whole place 
shaking and it was a very frightening situation. Thankfully none of our party were 
hurt. We left for Delhi later that day to fly home and it was clear there had been 
some major devastation."

Slight unfortunate understatement Paddy.

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[30] So that's how Durkin does it then
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Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
'An overweight policeman who feared he would fail his refereeing 
fitness test sent a fit 17-year-old in his place. Gary Bretherick, 35, almost 
succeeded as his friend passed easily but  an examiner realised the teenager was an 
imposter. Mr Bretherick, an assistant referee in the UniBond League, has been  banned 
by the Football Association for three years. One of the examiners at the test in 
Barnsley knew Mr Bretherick, of  Lytham in Lancashire, and blew the whistle, reports 
The Mirror. An FA spokesman said: "This was a most unusual case."

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[29] Thought this was about Highbury
-
Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
When I first read it as I mistook the word mugger for manager!

'Police have arrested a mugger who stole glasses from strangers then wore them in bed 
for sexual kicks. His wife says he could only become aroused when he wore a 
freshly-stolen pair of glasses. She says he would return from walks with a pair of 
stolen glasses and insist she wore her usual pair. "It all started in 1996 when the 
optician told him he had to wear glasses for his poor eyesight," she said. But rather 
than getting used to wearing them, he turned into a specs fetishist and could not have 
sex without a new pair. Police found more than 50 pairs of expensive designer glasses 
in his flat when they arrested him for mugging yet another stranger on the street and 
stealing his spectacles.'


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[28] Fergie on Wednesday
-
Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
"The Sunderland game was always going to be a biggish game anyway 
the cup defeat doesn't change things. You see how Sunderland didn't play Niall Quinn 
on Saturday in the  FA Cup, they know they have got a chance of European football so 
they  were thinking ahead about it too. It would always be a big game no matter what 
when we go to a place 
like Sunderland.  We always have to get back on track quickly after a defeat. Part of  
the character of the team over the last few years is that they've  done that well.

There was a lot of disappointment about the place after the West 
Ham match. It was a bad one. But it just wasn't going to be our day 
so now we just have to get on with it."


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[27] Scholes, Becks out with flu?
-
Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
Scholes definitely out for Wednesday apparently, Becks doubtful - cold spreading 
around OT.

Fergie: "David was feeling rough against West Ham and he missed training  yesterday, 
so we'll have to see how he goes. Paul Scholes is in bed and he's out for Sunderland. 
It was a late  one with Scholesy for the weekend. He trained on Friday, no problem  
and I told him he was going to play against West Ham on Sunday after  being out 
recently with a rib injury. Then on Saturday morning he  reported in really rough so 
we sent him home. He turned up on Sunday for the match looking terrible so again we  
sent him back home. So we need to try and contain this now to ensure it does not sweep 
 through the squad any further."

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[26] More from Fergie on the pitch
-
Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I had a meeting with Keith Kent about the pitch yesterday but we 
are up against it really. Other than having to re-turf the whole lot like we did last 
year I  am not sure what we can do. It is too late in the day to re-turf it  all. If 
we did that and then we got a downpour we would be in trouble. The pitch is 
struggling. The way we pass the ball we need a good  surface. We have to get our 
thinking caps on and see what we can do  about it. 

We have known since the start of December that there was a problem  beginning again. 
It was starting to move under the players feet when  they were doing the 

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As some of you may have discovered there have been one or two problems with the RED 
NEWS Daily News by email. Hopefully this situation has been resolved now. Of course 
you can always get the latest news at any time by visiting the website if you prefer.

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[39] Fergie on tonight
-
Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
"It's a very big game for us. Even if we had beaten  West Ham it wouldn't have made 
the visit to Sunderland any easier.  What makes it hard is not so much that they are 
better than anyone  else, but the fact that they've given themselves some hope of 
getting  into Europe next season. You can see what tonight's game means to them by the 
way they  handled Ipswich at the week-end. They rested Niall Quinn and took Kevin 
Phillips off at half-time. I  know full well they'll be thinking that a result against 
us will be  the big boost to their season.  In that respect it's one of Sunderland's 
biggest games, but that's  the way it is wherever we play. We've got used to it. It's 
not a  problem.  This United team is the best since I've been at the club. I say that  
because of their temperament. They were disappointed to lose to West  Ham and will 
want to redeem that situation."

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[38] Inspector Closseau is getting giddy
-
Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
Gerard Houllier said: "We are the only team in the country to be chasing honours in 
four competitions.  Alex Ferguson goes on about a winning mentality among his players  
and we are developing the same thing. I can detect an aggression and  a desire to be 
successful.  February is our big month. This is the month in which we will make 
it or not. We cannot afford to lift our foot from the pedal.  We can cope with this 
workload. We have the squad and the resources 
to do it. 
 
The players know it is a vital month. There is great resolve here, 
and great steel and unity.  The winning mentality comes from self-belief and 
confidence. There  is no sign of complacency or sloppiness in the team, which is good. 
We have some foundations now. We are 80 to 90% along the way. All we  have to do is go 
on." 

And the only final they are in is the Worthless Cup.


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[37] Becks and Scholes to play?
-
Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
Looks likely now.

United (probable):- Barthez, Gary Neville, Brown, Stam, Silvestre, 
Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Cole, Sheringham. Subs:- Van der 
Gouw, Phil Neville, Chadwick, Yorke, Solskjaer. 

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[36] Ruud gets new deal
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
Ruud Van Nistelrooy gets a new deal - with Nike that is as they sign him up. Bodes 
well for Utd then?

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[35] Fergie on Gary Nev
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
"When I spoke about it before on Sunday, I honestly didn't know what had  happened. I 
went to the dressing-room and I was  speaking to Jimmy Ryan (the coach) and there was 
some suggestion that  the referee had shoulder-charged Gary just outside the tunnel. 
In the  referee's opinion, he had done that to stop Gary going towards the  linesman. 

As far as Jimmy was concerned, that was as far as the matter went.  We will defend the 
charge. It's not as if he has shot anyone or  broken anyone's leg, but we will answer 
the charge nonetheless." 

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[34] Catch up lads
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
The media today go into overdrive with Barthez's quotes about the goal on Sunday that 
he gave to French TV - presumably coming from this site after our Frenc correspondent 
translated them for us - a full 3 days ago on this site!

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[33] Reid on tonight
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Liverpool have beaten them in the League and West Ham have  beaten them in the FA 
Cup, but I would be telling lies if I thought  anyone could catch them. They have so 
many outstanding players that if you 
keep two or three quiet, there are always the likes of Giggs,  Beckham, Scholes, 
Yorke, Cole, Sheringham or Solskjaer. There are so 
many it scares you. 

But we have a good record against them and it's up to us to show  what we can do. 
We've made vast strides and we're up there at the  moment. Only time and the players' 
performances will tell whether we 
can stay there.  It's going to be possibly our hardest game of the season and the one  
that will generate the best atmosphere seen at the Stadium of Light  since it was 
opened. I feel the fans are up for this one and  certainly the 

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[47] Cole Goal - Gray Off
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by redend:
Cole scores after 25 seconds of 2nd half .. and Gray is sent off for dissent. 

Cole and Rae off for "clashing heads"

Final score 0-1 to United. 

15 points clear - read it and weep ABU's

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[46] "Tier Two Commandos" document 
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by redend:
The "Tier Two Commandos" document re: regaining atmosphere is available here in HTML 
and for download in MS Word formats

(link:http://www.rednews.co.uk/TTC-Invite.shtml) 
http://www.rednews.co.uk/TTC-Invite.shtml

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[45] PFA hit out at Becks abuse
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
Gordon Taylor, chief executive of the PFA said: "It's just not an easy situation where 
there's a car which is easily identifiable. It's unfortunate that in this day and age 
there is always somebody ready to have a go. It happens and it's one of the 
unfortunate sides to the game really when people get carried away to that extent.

It also happens when players are on a night out and it was unfortunate what happened 
to Robbie Fowler in Liverpool. We would not want to have the same protection for 
sportsman as we do have for presidents, but it is a difficult one. We may have to 
camouflage coaches and camouflage cars so that people have no idea who is in them, but 
I believe that would be a sad reflection on how bad things have got. I just hope these 
kind of incidents are very limited and as minimal as possible."

They're living in a goldfish bowl at the minute and I think it has already been said 
that they attract as much interest as Princess Diana did"

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[44] PSV expect to lose Ruud
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
PSV director Peter Fossen said: "We are an  exporter of players and we know that Ruud 
van Nistelrooy will  probably go to Manchester United at some time. He is doing very 
well with his fitness, but he has not played at all  yet. I think it's very important 
that we do not stress the exact moment  when he will make a comeback."

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[43] ICJ means you don't pay - ever!
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
'An anonymous fare-dodger who failed to pay for his or her tram 
journeys more than 50 years ago has finally confessed. The guilt-ridden dodger 
relieved their conscience when they sent a  cheque for £10 and an unsigned 
type-written note to the finance  department at Bradford City Hall, apologising for 
their actions  during the war.

The money has been given to the Lord Mayor's charity appeal, 
Brainwave. The letter simply stated: "This cheque represents unpaid/uncollected  fares 
from Bradford Corporation Transport during the war. I am very sorry."

And his membership of the ICJ club has been revoked.

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[42] Johnsen injury update
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
In his latest recovery.

"It is just some cycling, running in water, and walking easily on a  treadmill, 
followed by a lot of weight training"

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[41] Miss Piggy spouts off
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
Aka Karel Poborsky

"Lazio is greater than Manchester United in all respects. Thus, 
Italian soccer is better than English football."

Work that one out - and Lazio better. Hmm, Miss Piggie, me thinks you've still got the 
arse because even Greening shows more skill than you did at OT. Bar the hair what did 
you bring to Utd?

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[40] Smaller Euro League still on the cards
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Posted Wednesday, January 31, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Peter Fossen, director of Dutch club PSV Eindhoven will meet Uefa director of 
football and marketing Lars-Christer Olsson on Thursday, and then hold a meeting of 
Euroleague clubs in Amsterdam on Friday to discuss further action.'

Fossen  said: "I met G14's general manager Thomas Kurth, and he said it's absolutely 
sure that the English and Germans will never leave their national leagues because they 
are of such great value to the clubs. The feeling is growing that the big clubs in the 
smaller leagues can no longer guarantee their places in the Champions League or 
compete with the richer clubs any longer. "We cannot sit still. We have to do 
something. The problem with smaller clubs comes with matches at the weekend. They do 
not generate enough money or interest.

Our fans want to see us playing the likes of Manchester United. Not only are the best 
players moving away from the smaller countries but the next best players are leaving 
as well. We want to stay within a Uefa framework and belie

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2001-02-02 Thread news

 
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[34] Panathingy ticket info
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Deadline for applications for the away leg is 5.00pm today from Indy
travellers. Info from the MO is that price and numbers are still to be confirmed, 
however if we are to get less than the initial 3000 promised, it will only be a 
marginal discrepancy.
 
As of this morning it is looking unlikely that a ballot will need to be held.
 

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[33] Sad joke of the day
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Two men are walking through the desert. It's been two weeks since their water rations 
ran out, and the sun is beating down mercilessly. All of a sudden, one of them spots a 
few market stalls by a sand dune."It can't be real. It's a mirage, let's ignore it," 
he says. But as they got closer, they could hear the sound of voices. The market was 
real! 

They ran up to the first stall holder. "Have you got some water we could buy?" asks 
one of the men. "No. I'm sorry sir, but all I sell is jelly and custard with hundreds 
and thousands on top."So they go up the next stall. "Have you got any water we could 
buy. We're on the verge of certain death," but again the same answer. "No. I'm sorry 
sir, but all I sell is jelly and custard with hundreds and thousands on top". 

The men, desperate by this point, go up to every stall holder, asking the same 
question and getting the same answer. Defeated, they walk off into the desert to face 
their miserable fate. "I say, that was a bit odd," said one of the men.

"Yes," said the other, "It was a trifle bazaar." .

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[32] Fergie on Wednesday
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Sunderland is always a test - a mental test - Sunderland play in a particular way. 
The players are very committed, a great team spirit, so it always difficult to get 
possession. But for the times we got possession, we were very wasteful. That's the 
area in which we were disappointing."


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[31] Fergie on Walter Smith
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Walter's done fantastic. He's made a silk purse out of a sow's ear. He's had injuries 
upon injuries and had to sell a dozen players or more. The reason he's been able to do 
that is through his management skills and his experience - all his years at Dundee 
United and Rangers.

You get a benefit out of that and that's why he's never panicked. He's kept that 
steely determination right and I think he's getting the rewards from it and we all 
sincerely hope he stays up because he's had a rough run with injuries lately."

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[30] Fergie on Everton
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Ferguson told LeagueManagers.com:

"It was a tough game in midweek at Sunderland and the fact that we played on Sunday, 
I'll make two or three changes. I'm going to rest one or two in view of the fact that 
they've had a lot of football in the last few months and I've these important games 
coming up soon.

It's not about complacency at all. You have to use the resources we've got available. 
We've got a big squad and some of them need to play."

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[29] Becks gets FA call
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
St last FA do something right - David Davies rang Becks on Monday to say forget the 
West Ham bust-up rubbish, you're still captain. If only the Sun would realise that 
fact.

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[28] More rubbish from Poborsky
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
But don't forget that Sven said United were a great team - perhaps 
best in the world! And he has a bit more of a clue than you.

Lazio's Karel Poborsky: This team has much more technical ability than United. I 
didn't have any trouble settling in. Here at  Lazio I felt at home from the very first 
day, thanks to all my team- mates. I found them to be a really strong side, and we've 
got a  good chance of winning the league. I'd been told they were a  struggling team, 
but since I got here I've seen a great group, very  gifted technically - really very 
strong. In short, a totally  different situation from what I'd been led to expect.

I think we're better than United and I'm not just saying that just because I'm here 
now.  This team has a much higher technical level than the English side,  they don't 
have such technically good players."


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[27] Gary Nev on our lead
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"If we were to lose it now, it would make a lot of people  happy. But having done that 
in 1998, it would be criminal for us to  do the same this time. We have to focus o

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[37] Massive clutching at straws
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
'Manchester City's players have received a confidence booster after a visit from a 
motivational speaker.'

Richard Dunne said: "It was on the morning of the game and initially we thought we 
would rather have a lie in, but everyone left delighted with themselves and we were 
all on a high. We had to break a plank of wood with our hands - it was a square block 
of wood - and you looked at it and thought 'I can't do that'. But he said we were all 
going to break it before the two hours were over. We're thinking 'no way', but two 
hours later we all got in pairs, held the planks up and we actually broke them with 
our hands. He told us how to breathe and clear our minds and just think positive.  It 
gave us a bit of a confidence booster. When it came to the match against Liverpool 
everyone was still on a high.

We were thinking about what he had said and we tried to put it into action on the 
pitch and you could see in the game everyone was running round, getting stuck in. It 
definitely made a difference because we had not been going into games like that. "

You couldn't make it up - and shame that you can't survive relegation on the amount of 
planks you smash. It's goals that count eh city!

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[36] Even the score up
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Thanks to Kay for this. Get voting and even the score.

"BT Internet are currently running a poll asking, "What will happen to
Manchester United when Alex Ferguson retires?"

The choices are:

1. Nothing, they will continue to dominate
2. They will fall apart and end up in the Conference
3. New manager Steve McLaren will inspire them to even greater success
4. Victoria Beckham will take over

Sadly, but somewhat predictably, No. 4 is currently winning, with 32.6% of the vote.  
1 has 27.2%, 2 has 21.7% and 3 has 18.5%.

it's at www.btinternet.com and follow the link for "Fergie Fears""

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[35] Walter Smith on Sat
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"We've started to get one or two players back from injury which has been our biggest 
plus since the turn of the year when we got a good result away at Watford. Each team 
can only do what they can do with the players they have available. I saw the West Ham 
game two or three weeks ago when Manchester United played very well and then West Ham 
played very well on Sunday to get their win.

I think that's the key to the thing - when you go there you have to play at your best 
and hope that the circumstances of the match go for you. We'll give it our best shot. 
In a period of two-and-a-half years that I have been working down in England, I don't 
think there's a team anywhere that's gone to Old Trafford as favourites to win the 
game, including the best European teams.

So you face the fact that you go as underdogs, same as any other team
that's traveled there in recent seasons. You go and try to give it your best shot and 
hope that you get a little bit of luck on the day."



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2001-02-02 Thread news

 
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[42] Cole wants help from Poll
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
"It's a hell of a long time to be out, especially after being out for two months 
injured. It's another enforced lay-off. Hopefully Graham Poll may reconsider and you 
never know what can happen. I would hope he would reconsider and I've spoken to the 
boss and like he said to me, there was nothing sinister about the incident.

A yellow card would have been sufficient enough, but Graham Poll has got his own 
agenda and he seemed to think it was a red-card incident. It's a big disappointment 
because I should not have done it, but that's the way life goes. My mind just went 
blank and it's not like me to lose my temper.

I'm enjoying my football at the minute, which is the important thing."

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[41] Get issue 74 of Red News tomorrow
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Remember if you haven't already got a copy, issue 74 can be obtained from upstanding 
Reds (until they can't stand up later on at night) on Sir Matt Busby Way. Or via post 
from the above address. Help the RN cause with a fanzine purchase!

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[40 Oh city are a massive club
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by redend:
Love this from Football 365: 
(link:http://www.football365.com) http://www.football365.com



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[39] Graz home ticket details
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
Manchester United v Sturm Graz
Tuesday 13th March 2001, kick off 19:45

POSTAL APPLICATIONS ONLY are still being accepted from Members/ST Holders and LMTB 
holders who can purchase a seat on a best available basis. Applications should include 
voucher 47 and a letter of application/ members match ticket order form (whichever is 
applicable), relevant payment and sae. Please ensure the incoming envelope is clearly 
marked 'EUROPEAN'.

A further announcement will be made via the Ticket and Match Information service on 
0161 868 8020 on Saturday 3rd February.


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[38] Wenger gets off it
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Posted Friday, February 2, 2001 by bar-knee:
The pram throwing worked...

'Arsene Wenger has match ban quashed and is reprimanded and fined £10,000 by the 
Football Association following two-day disciplinary hearing.'



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[34] Fergie - Scotland no way
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:

"No chance, I wouldn't do that. If I was ten years younger, then of 
course I would. As long as I had done everything here," he said.

"If you have managed a club like Manchester United or Rangers and 
spent a long time there you keep going back - it's a habit.

"It's hard to lift yourself for another challenge. I don't think I 
could do that now, I don't think I could start all over again.

"It was a bad time when I managed Scotland and I was still in charge 
at Pittodrie.

"It was too difficult. When I took the job, Aberdeen were top of the 
league but ended up third. That shows the impact it had.

"Now I would be more ready for it and I have a greater knowledge. But 
experience is a wonderful thing."


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[33] Fergie says Gough for Rangers boss
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:
"Richard Gough will be a great manager," he said. "I am sure we will 
see him making the step up and, being a Rangers fan, he may well end 
up at Ibrox.

"He is very decisive and tactically great. Anyone who goes into 
management has to be good at making decisions.

"If you can't make your mind up you will be no use. The job involves 
too many decisions."



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[32] Fergie on Rangers job offer
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:
In 1984:

. "If I had gone to Ibrox, the club would be reaping the benefits now," 

"Of course I was tempted. I thought about going and had a family 
meeting. But there was one strange thing - Willie Waddell (ex Rangers boss)hadn't 
asked me," 

"Willie could be difficult at times, but he was a good manager and 
person. I really like him and he did a lot for me.

"I asked former Rangers manager Scot Symon and he said it was funny 
Waddell hadn't spoken to me. Scot said that would have worried him.

"I didn't want to take the job with Willie not knowing anything about 
it."

He added: "When Paton (gers director)was talking to me I asked him how big he wanted 
Rangers to become. It was a question I had to ask. The fans always demanded more than 
just winning the league.

"John asked me what I meant and I said: 'Do you want to win the 
league with the Scottish players or do you want more than that?'

"I had a vision way beyond the Scottish League for Rangers. 

"I asked him why the club didn't have the best players from England. 
It wasn't difficult, it was just a matter of finding who you wanted 
and then buying them.

"My chairman at Aberdeen never gave me a lot of money. He would never 
go in the red but I knew Rangers had cash.



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[31] Sky hijack Coventry game
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:
It has been announced that United's home match with Coventry City will kick off at 
12pm on Saturday 14 April, and will be live on Sky Sports. This is Easter Saturday by 
the way

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[30] Todays get at Becks story
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:
Today it's the Moral who are desperate to boost circulation:

David and Victoria Beckham are set to spend a quarter-of-a-million pounds landscaping 
the garden of their Hertfordshire mansion.

Newspaper reports also say the couple will spend a similar sum inside the house where 
they plan to install a recording studio.

It's also reported baby Brooklyn's nursery will get a domed roof with
fibre-optic stars, at a cost of £20,000.  The couple bought the former council 
children's home in Sawbridgeworth in 1999 but have yet to move in.

Among the additions to the garden, will be a pavilion, a lake, three gazebos, flower 
beds and trees.

According to a report in the Daily Mail, the couple will spend £300,000 inside the 
house. The paper says a wall decoration in the baby's room will show David as a 
handsome prince and Victoria as his bride Cinderella.

Outside, the 52ft garden pavilion will cost the pair £70,000 while the three gazebo's 
will set them back £30,000. The gazebos will be made by the garden furniture 
specialists, Lloyd Christie of London.

It's also reported the pair have ordered almost 50,000 flowers for one bed alongside 
the half-mile driveway to the house.

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[29] RN Massive exclusive
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Posted Saturday, February 3, 2001 by tb:
So I was speaking to a lifelong season ticket holding Blue yesterday. 
He was moaning on about how he'd taken his son to Maine Road X times 
but he'd still ended up a Red.

And then he tries this one on:
"course they've closed the Junior Blues Club now because it was 
too popular."

Not satisfied with that one he tries again a few minutes later:
"You realise the junior Blues is the biggest Youth Movement in the 
World."

Ridiculous - of course

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2001-02-04 Thread news

 
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[21] Sunday Mirror on safe standing
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Posted Sunday, February 4, 2001 by tb:
MANCHESTER United have dealt a major blow to the growing fans' campaign for safe 
standing areas by ruling out the return of terracing at Old Trafford. 

United have written to the Premier League indicating they will not be taking up the 
offer of a standing trial from Trafford Metropolitan Borough Council, who issue the 
safety certificate for Britain's biggest League venue. 

And fans' leaders fear United's refusal to allow standing, even on a trial basis, 
could have a knock-on effect at other Premiership clubs such as Manchester City and 
Charlton where fans are lobbying for small, safe standing areas. 

Ironically, United's decision comes just as the Football Supporters' Association are 
preparing to leave on a fact-finding mission into the successful use of terracing in 
Germany. 

The FSA's Kevin Miles, Mark Longden (IMUSA big cheese)and Phil Gateley leave for 
Germany on February 10 to launch the most exhaustive study of terracing safety issues 
ever undertaken by a British research team. They will present their evidence to 
Government, the Premier League, the FA and Football League, the Football Licensing 
Authority and the 92 League clubs in this country. 

But it seems United and most of their Premier League counterparts are determined to 
resist attempts to reopen the standing debate. 

A Premier League spokesman told Fanzone: "The chairmen remain unanimously opposed to 
the re-introduction of terracing in any form, as are the Government." 

But the FSA are determined to keep the debate in the public domain despite the 
Government's transparent attempts to stifle discussion and silence Sports Minister 
Kate Hoey (below) who supports a return to small, safe standing areas. 

The FSA's Mark Longden, a Manchester United fan, said: "What are the Premier League 
scared of? This issue should be about choice. We want the fans to be able to decide 
whether they want to stand or sit. 

"We aren't asking for a return to the massive terraces of yesteryear, but small areas 
that use the latest technology to ensure safety. 

"We heard all the propaganda about England's marvellous all-seated stadia yet it was 
Germany who won the 2006 World Cup bid, despite most of their grounds retaining 
standing for domestic fixtures. 

"We will be going to Germany to research their safety record, check out the stadia and 
talk to safety officers. 

"It seems the Government and the Premier League have already made their mind up on 
this issue. But we feel there is a need for this study and if shows standing is safe 
we will ask the Government to change their legislation." 

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[20] Becks on Eriksson & Ingerlund
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Posted Sunday, February 4, 2001 by tb:
"I would love to carry on as skipper now that Mr Eriksson has taken over. This is an 
exciting time for the England team with a new coach appointed. 

"It doesn’t matter whether there is a foreigner or an Englishman in charge 
— it has got to be good for the game to have a successful national team. 

"He has been kind enough to say some flattering things about me but we all start 
afresh now. 

"It doesn’t matter that I have been an international regular in the past. I have 
still got to show I am worth a place in the team. 

"We have all got to prove ourselves to the new coach. I would never take my place for 
granted because I am always striving to improve and to become the best player in the 
game." 


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[19] Becks on being responsible
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Posted Sunday, February 4, 2001 by tb:
"A lot of things have happened which have helped me grow up. Becoming a husband and 
father have been two main factors, while being made England captain has also made me 
feel more responsible as well. 

"But I want to be someone who the kids can look up to. My dad has said to me in the 
past: ‘Whatever you do, the kids want to copy’. He’s so right. 

"Kids copy my hairstyle and wear my No7 shirt and that makes me feel good. But what I 
don’t want is to see lads of nine or 10 arguing with referees in the park on a 
Sunday just because they’ve watched me doing it the day before. 

"That is the kind of pressure that goes with being made England captain, accepting you 
have to be a good role model for thousands of youngsters. 


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[18] Becks feels sorry for us though
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Posted Sunday, February 4, 2001 by tb:
"When I am around the club, the security is tight but even that can have its downside. 
When we leave the ground we have to get into our cars or the team coach in a secure 
area. That’s a shame because it puts us out of the reach of the genuine fans." 

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[17] Becks on the nutters

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2001-02-05 Thread news

 
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[31] Bye bye Our Martin
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Posted Monday, February 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
As his last chance to get the PLC job goes with the news that 'Sir Roland Smith is 
staying on as chairman of Manchester United's plc board for at least another year. Sir 
Roland's current contract was due to expire at the end of March and there had been 
speculation that he would stand down then. But the plc board did not want him to go 
and he has agreed to stay on for another 12 months until March 2002.

United's chief executive Peter Kenyon said: "We are delighted that Sir Roland has 
agreed to remain as chairman and that Manchester United will continue to benefit from 
his guidance, leadership and experience."

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[30] Choccy - use the technology
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Posted Monday, February 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
Speaking exclusively to FA-Premier.com Brian McClair said of city's disallowed goal:

"It is an extremely important decision and a controversial one. But because it is so 
important to both City and Middlesbrough surely the game must try and make the job 
easier for the referee with video replays he or at least the fourth official can 
study. We've talking about this for so long and as we talk these controversies keep 
occurring.
You have to accept them, you must always accept the referee is right at all times even 
when you know, and television replays prove, he is wrong. So why not do it on the 
spot? Why not have the equipment available which in the majority of incidents would 
prove conclusively what is right and what is wrong?

One of the arguments against is the time it would take to study the replays but surely 
that could be reduced to seconds at the side of the pitch by the fourth or even a 
specially appointed fifth official. For goal-line incidents, did it or didn't it cross 
the line, sensors would
give an immediate reaction.

If it can work for rugby and cricket, which I accept are stop start games, then why 
cannot it be adapted for football? Bad feeling often stems from perceived injustice 
and the introduction of this technology would cut out so much of the bad feeling which 
has built up between referees and players. Prove the ref is right and it will calm 
everyone.

The refs are in a position now to give the benefit of the doubt to forwards whereas in 
the past it was the defenders who received that. This is why I say the Tiatto goal 
should have stood. The referee took the advice of his linesman that a City player was 
interfering with Schwarzer's line of vision as he defended the Middlesbrough goal and 
if he was doing that he was interfering with play and therefore offside.

We've all been through it. I remember we lost a cup tie on penalties to Southampton at 
Old Trafford and Bryan Robson had a goal disallowed when we all felt at the time and 
had confirmed later should have been our winner in extra time. The refs can't always 
win: if he allowed the goal it would have been Terry Venables not Joe Royle who'd have 
been complaining - and justifiably - about a decision based on an individual's opinion 
on who is or who isn't interfering with play. The fact is if referees feel they never 
win then football has to accept
when it comes to decisions the men in black are never wrong."


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[29] Best in hospital
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Posted Monday, February 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
SKY news reporting that George Best has been admitted to hospital with breathing 
difficulties. 

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[28] More Euro league update
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Posted Monday, February 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
Panathinaikos FC  0 : 1 Panionios GS
 
League Standings - 
 
Olympiakos Piraeus FC17 / 44 
Panathinaikos FC 17 / 38 
FC PAOK Thessaloniki 17 / 32 
 
Spains La Liga

Real Mallorca 2 : 2 Valencia 

Real Madrid CF 21 / 48  
Deportivo La Coruña   21 / 41  
Barcelona 21 / 40 
Valencia   21 / 36  

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[27] Jaap Stam on life
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Posted Monday, February 5, 2001 by bar-knee:
"It's great to have a fifteen point lead. We've got a lot of important
games coming, with Europe. But a lot can happen in football. We'll just concentrate on 
each game. Sometimes we play poorly and still get the points. That was the case today. 
We started the game quite well in the first half, but then they came back into it. We 
couldn't get our quality to the game in the second half so it wasn't the best game to 
watch.

As soon as we got the ball they dropped back, sat behind the ball and
waited for us to give it away. They tried to counter, and it's difficult to play 
against that. We've played better than we did today. We didn't have a lot of chances, 
and I still don't know how Andy's goal went in. I think it was a deflection, and you 
need a bit of luck some

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[31] Redknappy burgled by his own
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Posted Tuesday, February 6, 2001 by bar-knee:
'THE luxury home of soccer star Jamie Redknapp and his wife, Louise, was ransacked by 
thieves while the pair celebrated Liverpool's victory at the weekend. The couple 
returned home from an evening out to find their belongings strewn across their home, a 
renovated farmhouse in Gayton, Wirral.'

"We werent in at the time as we were out having a meal with some
friends who were up here for the West Ham game. A few bits and pieces have gone but 
its not so much what's taken as the fact that someone has rooted through our private 
belongings. It was a bit of a nightmare and has left us both pretty shaken."

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[30] Massive load of shite
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Posted Tuesday, February 6, 2001 by bar-knee:
Normal service is resumed. We were getting a bit worried about Alfie as he'd stopped 
spouting bollocks for a week at least. But back he comes with the big teams are 
favoured by refereeing decisions whine. For £uck's sake - didn't he see the West Ham 
handballs in the game of the century?


Alfie Haaland:  "If that goal had been scored by United at Old Trafford, Liverpool at 
Anfield or Arsenal at Highbury I doubt if it would have been ruled out. We couldn't 
believe our eyes but that is the sort of thing that happens when you are down at the 
bottom. I asked the referee why it had been disallowed and he just said 'no', 'no', 
'no'. We were angry in the dressing room afterwards. Football is a big business and 
the loss of two points could cost us dearly. But that is life, we cannot do anything 
about it now, it is done and dusted. We felt we played well and deserved to win the 
game but now we just have to look forward to Spurs coming to Maine Road on Saturday."

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[29] OT pitch not to be dug up again
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Posted Tuesday, February 6, 2001 by bar-knee:
Only because the weather is too bad at the moment for any re-laying.

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[28] Mirror - 'lucky United' bollocks
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Posted Tuesday, February 6, 2001 by bar-knee:
Some journos still don't get it do they. Last miniute winners, winning when you're 
playing badly. Listen you plank - its got nothing to do with luck. That evens itself 
out - despite the rantings of Mystic Meg ABU's who like to pretend we are favoured by 
fortune. Its not luck - its called "attitude, will to win - never say die". That is 
what has delivered all of Fergie's trophies - none more so than the Treble season. 
Didn't you notice? Or were we lucky at Villa Park (to have our Captain sent off in a 
replay that shouldn't have happened after a perfectly good win was ruled out due to 
incompetent match officials), lucky in Turin (to go 2-0 down to deflected goals and 
fight back to win 3-2) and in Barcelona (to keep pushing right into injury time when 
any other team in the World would have admitted defeat - and not only get an equaliser 
but drive on for the winner too). 

Even if Fergie does play the sportsman saying we are lucky - which he says regularly 
only the seagulls choose not to notice and contine to portray him as a moaning dour 
Scot offering only excuses. How can someone with so little understanding be paid to 
write such uninformed bollocks?

>From the Mirror

'WRONG TEAM AND WRONG TACTICS.. RIGHT RESULT

LITTLE wonder some bookies are already paying out on United's title. 

Not only are United 15 points ahead with the best team, the strongest squad, and a 
real thirst to retain the championship. They also have luck. Sir Alex Ferguson got it 
so wrong at Old Trafford. Wrong team selection, wrong tactics, and wrong to 
underestimate relegation contenders Everton. 

Not bad if you can get so much wrong and still win. 

That truly is the hallmark of champions. However, it was achieved even by Sir Alex's 
own admission, more by luck than judgment. It needed a lucky break and Andy, sorry 
Andrew, Cole celebrated his new pounds 70,000-a-week contract with a wickedly 
deflected winner off Steve Watson's heel. 

Ferguson, usually renowned for his whingeing, was frank for a change. "We had a lucky 
break," he said. "Cole deserved his goal because he made a good run and it was a good 
pass from Yorke but, yes, there was an element of luck." 

Good grief. Fergie has changed from whining boss to a good sportsman. It might have 
had something to do with collecting the pounds 30,000 cheque on behalf of his club 
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[34] More Red News comment on Yankees deal
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Posted Wednesday, February 7, 2001 by bar-knee:
Obviously our major view will come when we see the detail of the deal - but having 
nothing to go on, and definitely no small print, it seems churlish to go in with all 
guns firing when Cuddly Peter and his mob haven't had their press conference. We're 
not in SKY territory yet - but that doesn't mean this deal could be at best 
opportunist and at worst a long term mistake.

But for the press to come out with stuff like 'we'll sign Rivaldo', leave the 
Premiership and solve the Middle East peace process' is just speculation and shows 
that nothing has been learnt from the Murdoch deal.

The yankees top brass have a similar reputation to that former potential buyer which 
makes us uneasy - and of course some of the speculation about the deal is a concern. 
We don't begrudge United wanting to make pots of money from some aspects of this deal 
- if it keeps our prices down - but hopefully percentage aspects of our marketing 
potential haven't been given to another company when surely it is in the best 
interests for Utd to maintain 100% autonomy and make their money themselves.

TV coverage is a tricky one as it will surely just involve future negotiating deals 
after the next SKY one ends and for foreign rights - that they might be able to help 
us with but may come under the auspices of the Trade & Industry Dept over here on such 
deals. Utd want to break into the US market and there is nothing wrong with that - but 
if it involves selling baseball hats at OT to get it, it does seem a tad bizarre. We 
wonder what background interest and knowledge Nike had in all this - but Utd are 
salivating at this deal.

If it creates money to help the hardcore at Utd fair enough. But if any part of it 
backfires meaning we pay for yet more erroneous foreign expansion then, I'm afraid, 
it's head on a platter time PLC lads.

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[33] Who rattled your cage
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Posted Wednesday, February 7, 2001 by bar-knee:
 England World Cup winner George Cohen said: "To describe David Beckham as as 
world-class is  ridiculous. We call the likes of George Best, Johan Cruyff, Pele and  
Bobby Moore world class and surely we are not comparing Beckham to  them!  He's all 
right but come on, he's not any better than that." 
 

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[32] Contradiction
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Posted Wednesday, February 7, 2001 by bar-knee:
Didn't Shotgun say Juan didn't have time to settle in just after we beat them.

Aston Villa boss John Gregory on Juan Pablo Angel: "It is strange for him. He walked 
into the dressing room at Bradford last weekend and thought it was his own personal 
dressing room as it is a bit tight in there! It is a shock for him to be playing in 
the Premiership when one week you are at Old Trafford and the next you are at Valley 
Parade. It is something that he was not expecting, as much as we tried to paint a
picture for him. So those are one or two little culture shocks that he is going 
through. On the pitch as well, English football is very uncompromising and he is 
having to get used to the hurly burly of it all and the intensity of playing two games 
a week and the ball spending a lot of time in the air which he is not used to.

But, slowly, he will overcome that. Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp are two players 
who took a long time to settle at Arsenal and in Juan Pablo's case I feel that being 
on the winning side at Bradford will have given him a lot of encouragement."

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[31] Rip-off quote of the day
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Posted Wednesday, February 7, 2001 by bar-knee:
Not from a Utd PLC honcho on our deal (that will probably come later) but Master Ken 
Bates on charges of Chelsea chief Ken Bates has been criticised following the 
announcement of £190 a game season tickets in the new stand at Chelsea.

"It's not just the wealthy that can afford such prices. We have executive club members 
who used to stand in the rain in the old Shed.  They have got on with their world, 
made money and now want to watch
football in comfort. It does not follow that the working class sit in the cheapest 
seats, because corporate hospitality comprises working guys that have made money." 

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[30] A source close to the Yankees deal
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Posted Wednesday, February 7, 2001 by bar-knee:
Which might mean they asked the bloke in Starbucks outside...

'But a source close to the deal predicted: "What you will see now is the group going 
after Juventus in Italy, Bayern Munich in Germany and Barcelona or Real Madrid in 
Spain. It gives the clubs the chance to shop their brand names around and, 
potentially, make billions."


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[29] Fergie on Scholes injury
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[34] Excellent this
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Posted Thursday, February 8, 2001 by bar-knee:
Posted on to Red News forum by the great Birdman.

"In a related story to Manchester United's deal with the NY Yankees it has been 
revealed that neighbours Manchester City have signed a
lucrative sponsorship deal of their own with a NY Championship winning team.  10 Pin 
Bowling team, 'Bowling Thunder' twice winners of the Flushing Wednesday League in 
Queens, NY have inked a deal which is rumoured to be in the double figures.

Spokesperson and captain of the team, Johnny Bagadonuts earlier - "Yeah, Der gonna 
hook us up wit sum snazzer lazer blue bowling shirts, di guy from Manchestershire said 
dhey've gat der biggest floodlites in der whole of Londonengland" Exactly what City 
were getting out of the deal is still unsure but after the representitive from the 
Maine Rd club left 'Bowling Thunder's' home venue, Bowl-a-rama, Bagadonuts was heard 
to say "Hey, were'd our trophies go?"

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[33] Bates Wembley resignation letter in full!
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Posted Thursday, February 8, 2001 by bar-knee:
To Football Association chief executive Adam Crozier, it goes: 

"I acquired Wembley for the FA and made a substantial operating profit... despite 
having inherited a lacklustre leaderless management. We know a considerable part of it 
came from Kate Hoey and her lackeys. But it is also clear that a lot came from within 
the Football Association itself.  "It was quite disgraceful that not one single person 
on either board stood up to publicly defend the project and my position. Even Jesus 
Christ suffered only one Pontius Pilate - I had a whole team of them. It would take 
another four years of my life to complete the project and after careful consideration 
I have decided I do not want to spend it working with people, a number of whom I 
neither trust nor respect. I therefore resign from the board of WNSL with immediate 
effect."   

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[32] Andy Walsh viewpoint
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Posted Thursday, February 8, 2001 by bar-knee:
Andy Walsh, a spokesman for the Independent Manchester United 
Supporters Association, said: "The profits must be used for the 
benefit of the football club - to keep ticket prices down and to  provide resources 
for the manager, enabling him to put out the best 
team possible." 


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[31] Who we've got into bed with
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Posted Thursday, February 8, 2001 by bar-knee:
Looks like Fartin will have a soul mate to play with!!

>From Football 365

'THE proud name of Manchester United is about to become associated 
with an extremely controversial character as their marketing deal  with baseball 
giants New York Yankees gathers pace. George  Steinbrenner, the 71-year-old shipping 
magnate who bought the club 
for ten million dollars in 1971, has led the Yankees to six World 
Series titles during his reign, but has constantly courted  controversy. His most 
infamous moments include... 

* In 1972, he was convicted of making illegal contributions to 
crooked President Richard Nixon's campaign fund. He was later 
pardoned by Ronald Reagan. 

* He has a loyalty to managers that would make our very own football 
chairmen seem benevolent in the extreme. He hired and fired Yankees 
legend Billy Martin as manager on an incredible five occasions. Such 
a lack of security clearly took its toll on Martin, who ruled himself 
out of any further comebacks by dying. 

* Steinbrenner incredibly fired an average of 30 employees a season 
during the Seventies and Eighties. In 1996, he surpassed himself by 
dismissing a grand total of 56 Yankees employees. Many of their 
replacements were family friends, which Steinbrenner explained by 
saying he was seeking to promote unity within his backroom staff. 

* Steinbrenner was suspended from running his own team for three 
years during the 1980s after admitting paying 40,000 dollars to a 
former gangster in exchange for damaging information about Yankees 
player Dave Winfield, whose contract Steinbrenner wanted to cancel. 

* Analysts predicted that the Yankees could become the number one 
baseball team in the Far East after Steinbrenner signed Asian-
American star Hideki Irabu. Sadly, the pitcher's Yankee career ended 
shortly afterwards, when a mistake in an exhibition game led 
Steinbrenner to call him "a fat toad". 

* When the Yankees lost the World Series in 1981, Steinbrenner marked 
the occasion by having a fistfight with two critical supporters in a 
lift. Classy!' 


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[30] Bobby Charlton on deal
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Posted Thursday, February 8, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Money is not a dirty word. To remain at the top of this sport you have to make
money. We know how to do it and the Yankees know how to do it. This club has
always 

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[23] Liverpool ticket details
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Posted Friday, February 9, 2001 by bar-knee:
Liverpool away ticket details are on the ticket info line. We have approx. 3000 
tickets at £26.00. Season ticket voucher 36 plus voucher sheets, applications to be in 
by 5.00 p.m. on Friday 16 February 2001.

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[22] Dwight on Yankees deal
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Posted Friday, February 9, 2001 by bar-knee:
"It never ceases to amaze me what this club does and that is 
why being a part of it is so special.  A lot of clubs panic and spend money trying to 
catch up with us.  Other clubs, not just domestically but in Europe, try to get to our 
 level.  As soon as they think they are close, we just take a bigger step  ahead - and 
this latest one is very big.  We all know the size of the Yankees. I've got enough of 
their  baseball caps to realise the very symbol of the club is recognised  worldwide. 
While there have been some big signings, a lot of the  players were developed from the 
youth system.  We have not spent as much as some.

 We have just worked hard to get a  team together that can be so successful. That is 
down to the skill of  the management team and dedication of the players.  It's not our 
fault if we are the best in the English game.  As for the off-field activities, the 
club are simply taking  advantage of what is on offer out there and being pioneers. 
They are taking their chances where others don't. It is up to the  rest to come up 
with their own ideas. When you come from the Caribbean, New York represents big  
opportunities.  People go there to succeed and be famous. It's fantastic - I must  
have been there 20 times.  I've never seen the Yankees play but you can be sure I will 
on my  next visit. Like us, they are winners." 

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[21] Dwight on Ruud coming in?
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Posted Friday, February 9, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Everyone here knows that the  club will never stand still.  The opportunity comes 
along to make this team stronger, they will. All the strikers know about Ruud van 
Nistelrooy and if the boss  thinks he will make us stronger, we as players have to 
respond to  that.  If he is coming for the sort of money being talked about, then he  
won't be sitting on the bench very long. We will just have to make it  difficult for 
him to get into the side. 

The difference with United when it comes to spending is  that they will never do 
anything that puts the club or its future at  risk.  We all see what some big Italian 
and Spanish clubs spend. Then we  hear about how much debt they are in. Often the 
clubs are reliant on  one individual as well. That is not the case here.  The club is 
clearly putting into place the foundations and structure  to ensure it's dominance can 
continue for a long time to come and  that players can be bought without risking any 
financial problems."


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[20] Dwight interview
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Posted Friday, February 9, 2001 by bar-knee:
In the SUN

"At some clubs, you could be a lot more sure of your position than 
you are here.  The standard there may not be as high and the club may not have the  
money to get a big name in. Well, everyone knows that is not the case here.  We now 
know more than ever that if we slip up, the club has the  strength to go out and get 
whoever it wants." 

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[19] Yet more opinion on Yankees deal
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Posted Friday, February 9, 2001 by bar-knee:
BBC Sport's Rob Bonnet:

"I should declare an interest. I hold shares in Manchester United plc.  Not many. 
Certainly not enough to buy more than a small round of 
drinks off the profits of the price hike that followed the New York  Yankees deal.  I 
was once a fan - the very worst sort, an obsessive teenage Cockney  Red in the days of 
Charlton, Best and Law. But I no longer qualify  under most people's definition of 
"fandom". I hardly ever see the team except on TV and - in any case - I spent a 
period of immense disloyalty in East Anglia as a follower of Norwich  City."

(typical so called celeb fan) 

"The current United team can play sublime football. They frequently 
win well but notoriously - and much less frequently - lose badly.  Seven Premiership 
titles in nine years would (no, make that will) be 
a heck of an achievement, but I'd like another club to win it just  for a change."

(then you are not a fan at all - typical suited shareholder) 

"I like football. Quite a lot, but not enough to prefer it to a number 
of other sports and certainly not enough to see football through 
Keano's red mist. If I support any team, it's England."

(here we go)

"On to this Manchester United tie-in with the Yankees.  The newspapers 
enthusiastically headlined the prospect of a Stock  Exchange investigation into the 
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[22] Harrison on Becks
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
'If anyone thinks that all the things David has accomplished have landed in his lap, 
they couldn't be more wrong. Since his formative years he has practised from morning 
until night. You won't find anyone more dedicated. 

'David can do absolutely anything with a football. He deserves all the success he has 
achieved so far and, believe me, there is more to come in the future.


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[21] Ginger (hard) nut
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
Eric Harrison on the ginga ninja:

'I have always likened Nicky Butt to Bryan Robson because he is afraid of noone. He 
needs to score more goals to become a regular with England but if I was playing in the 
roughest, most intimidating of games, I would want Nicky Butt by my side.' 



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[20] My left foot
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
As Eric Harrison explains about Giggsy:

'Ryan Giggs, in full flight, is probably the most exciting. He is crucial to a 
successful side. Someone has to run with the ball and Ryan is up there with the best. 

'When he joined United on a full-time basis after leaving school, there were two 
things we needed to improve and we both worked hard on them. 

'I improved Ryan's right foot by making him practice with it in crossing sessions and 
restricting him from using his left foot. It was like an optician putting a patch over 
a child's good eye to make the "lazy eye" work harder - and it worked.' 



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[19] You don't say
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
Contrary to reports (stand up Mirror, Sun, Moral etc), the tie-up with YankeesNet will 
not earn United billions, nor will it mean that Ferguson can buy the Luis Figos of 
this world.

Instead the deal is about a long-term marketing strategy to try and infiltrate the 
American market and raise United's profile.

That could take years and United are not banking on the partnership making them 
millions overnight.

Under the agreement, United and the Yankees could sell each other's merchandising, 
while they may also act jointly in sponsorship negotiations.

The clubs will also exchange information on training and physiotherapy techniques.

Ferguson said: "I think it's a great step. I think the club is always going to look to 
improve themselves and not just on the football field, but on the commercial side as 
well."


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[18] Fergie looks forward to his travels
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
On the Yankees tie up

"I think it's a fantastic step ahead because we are always trying to project ourselves 
and get a higher status in football.

"With the American population over there of between 260 and 300 million, I think, you 
have a country which is in the early formation of football.

"They tried it back in the 1970s and it didn't work. They've got it back on song now 
and they hosted the World Cup in 1994.

"Obviously it's a young country as far as football is concerned and if we can market 
our image over there then we will do well."


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[17] Smile you're on Candid Camera
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
The Scout master on Vierra

'Would he have been charged if he were not on Sky News every five minutes? 

'You have to ask yourself if players are more likely to be punished if their matches 
are on TV. It can only be right if everybody is under the same scrutiny. 

'I'm not saying what the FA must do, but what we have in England now are guidelines, 
not rules. It can be very confusing. You just don't know whether you are going to be 
punished or not.' 


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[16] More Arse escuses
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
You couldn't make it up!

On Kanu:
'It's the English winter,' said the Highbury manager yesterday. 'He can't stand it.' 
'It is the temperature change that is the problem. It can be 30 degrees above when he 
travels to Nigeria - and then he has to come back to London where there is frost, rain 
and wind. 

'He has been injured and is back in the squad now. He has not had a successful season 
as far as scoring goals is concerned but he is looking sharper in training now. 

'I have had a talk with him. Winter is more difficult for him to contend with, and he 
has a stamina problem in that he cannot play in as long a range of games as other 
players.' 



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[15] Bates blasts 'I'll take the lot of yer on'
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Posted Saturday, February 10, 2001 by tb:
'Who are these people hiding behind expressions like "an insider" or "FA spokesman?" 
'Let them have the b

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IGNORE TEST
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Posted Sunday, February 11, 2001 by redend:




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