PESO: Today's catch
Awoke early this morning in San Diego and went out just after sunrise. members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch1.jpg Caught using the *ist DS and the 80 mm end of the 80-200/2.8 zoom. Camera selected f11 @ 1/1000 for a fine jpeg, resized for the web. After some shots, I heard this blowing noise like a whale! members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch2.jpg Using the 200 mm end of the zoom, action mode f4 @ 1/2000. Cropped about 25% from the left and risized for the web. (Thought I was in Scotland with Nessie for a few moments. The locals say it was a juvenile Gray whale, very rare in the harbor!) Shot about 140 images...way more than film. I'm getting up early again tomorrow. ;-) Regards, Bob S.
PESO: Today's catch
Sorry, make that capital C, as in members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg and members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2,jpg Regards, Bob S. From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 14, 2006 2:21 AM Subject: PESO: Today's catch Awoke early this morning in San Diego and went out just after sunrise. members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch1.jpg Caught using the *ist DS and the 80 mm end of the 80-200/2.8 zoom. Camera selected f11 @ 1/1000 for a fine jpeg, resized for the web. After some shots, I heard this blowing noise like a whale! members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch2.jpg Using the 200 mm end of the zoom, action mode f4 @ 1/2000. Cropped about 25% from the left and risized for the web. (Thought I was in Scotland with Nessie for a few moments. The locals say it was a juvenile Gray whale, very rare in the harbor!) Shot about 140 images...way more than film. I'm getting up early again tomorrow. ;-) Regards, Bob S.
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 8:20: While talking with Marco last night at Godfrey's show (VERY nicely done, BTW - and Godders is a fine host), he mentioned that he was playing around with a Beta version of Adobe Lightroom. The program is not yet available for Windows, and I'm wondering if any other Mac users have been using it, and what comments you may have. From all I've read, it seems that it might be a very fine adjunct to Photoshop, or maybe even a replacement for it for photographers. Any thoughts? While not a replacement for final retouching in Photoshop, it is a great replacement for raw converting and photos managmenet applications. It has most of functions found in Adobe RAW Converter + some ready to go sets of effects like converting to BW at RAW stage. It seems to be more photographer than computer user oriented, so I think it will be more appealing to people with less computer knowledge. And it has nice tools for managing your photography library - you can categorize photos, then sort it according to theses categories, see all photos by date they were taken and much more. And it has an option to do RAW - DNG converting during photos import too. One think that I don' like is its speed - especially when checking thumbnails occurs - it takes too much time. But it is beta, and this and other problems should be sorted before final version appears. I hope it will be priced well below price of Apple's Aperture - I'm hoping for ~200-250$ range, especially that Aperture has strange hardware requirements (on the one side it is enough to have Powerbook G4, on the other - it doesn't work on much faster G5/1.6 which I have) and doesn't support .PEFs at all. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
RE: March Pattern PUG Comments
Thanks Tom and Jens, Well, it's not so difficult here to keep your head above the water. To keep your head cool is more difficult sometimes. Henk -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 March, 2006 4:29 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: March Pattern PUG Comments I like Henk's Ripples a lot: http://pug.komkon.org/06mar/ripples.html And comming from a land beneath sea level, it's pretty well done, right? ;-)) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: Re: Photographers words - was: PUG comments, part 1
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/14 Tue AM 12:28:40 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photographers words - was: PUG comments, part 1 On 13/3/06, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Roquefort. Are Norwegians allowed to say that? No. They have to write it down and show it to the model. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Another how to behave on eBay question.
On 14/3/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: After getting bad wibes I had those once, there's an ointment you can get Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Today's catch
On 14/3/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, make that capital C, as in members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg and members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2,jpg But without the comma: http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2.jpg ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:48 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I hope it will be priced well below price of Apple's Aperture - I'm hoping for ~200-250$ range, especially that Aperture has strange hardware requirements (on the one side it is enough to have Powerbook G4, on the other - it doesn't work on much faster G5/1.6 which I have) and doesn't support .PEFs at all. I suspect Apple are just trying to sell you newer hardware, as the required hardware is pretty much what their current line offers. On a more serious note, I suspect it has more to do with the video card than the processor. I think the newer Powerbooks have quite a lot of video memory available. G5/1.6 has 64Mb, and the 17 Powerbook has 128Mb. I think the later 15 Powerbook also had 128Mb but it's been replaced with the new Intel notebook which has 256Mb! I also have a G5/1.6, and the video card is pushed pretty hard when driving a pair of 1600x1200 screens. The pricing will reflect the marketplace that Lightroom is aimed for. Aperture is aimed squarely at professional photographers, but I suspect that Macr^H^H^H^H Adobe will set their sights on enthusiasts as well, which means they'd hopefully price it a bit lower. I'm just guessing here. Cheers, - Dave
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
David Mann wrote on 14.03.06 10:11: I suspect Apple are just trying to sell you newer hardware, as the required hardware is pretty much what their current line offers. Good luck to them then ;-) On a more serious note, I suspect it has more to do with the video card than the processor. I think the newer Powerbooks have quite a lot of video memory available. G5/1.6 has 64Mb, and the 17 Powerbook has 128Mb. I think the later 15 Powerbook also had 128Mb but it's been replaced with the new Intel notebook which has 256Mb! I also have a G5/1.6, and the video card is pushed pretty hard when driving a pair of 1600x1200 screens. Well, such a large amount of video memory is needed mainly by 3D graphics. To work at 1600x1200/32 bit in plain 2D only 8MB should be enough, 16 MB with no problems. Yes, I know that Quartz uses 3D GPU to build some 3D screen elements, but even then 32 MB should be enough ;-) Either way strange, because they should rather mention in hardware requirements appropriate graphics card. The pricing will reflect the marketplace that Lightroom is aimed for. Aperture is aimed squarely at professional photographers, but I suspect that Macr^H^H^H^H Adobe will set their sights on enthusiasts as well, which means they'd hopefully price it a bit lower. I'm just guessing here. I have the same thoughts as yours - I hope for much lower price of lightroom. One more very important difference - Lightroom can keep settings for each RAW in sidecar .xmp files while Aperture keeps this data in one huge file. Adobe's solution is much more flexible, especially if you move some of your photos to external storage and would like to edit them in the future or on another computer. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts? I've been using it almost since day one. Most of the important points have been mentioned already. The RAW treatment is the best I've ever seen (I'm still on PS CS non-2). The b/w conversion does indeed knock one's socks off. I very much miss a function to move/burn files either using Lightroom itself or at least with Lightroom being aware of it and I don't like the copy automatically generated each time I forward a file to PS. Other than that it's great and I'm really looking forward to its further development. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aperture is aimed squarely at professional photographers, but I suspect that Macr^H^H^H^H Adobe will set their sights on enthusiasts as well, which means they'd hopefully price it a bit lower. Or they'll come up with the usual two versions we know from PS: the awfully expensive full-featured version and an SE version stripped of 16 bit processing and some other essential features. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote on 14.03.06 10:42: I very much miss a function to move/burn files either using Lightroom itself or at least with Lightroom being aware of it and I don't like the copy automatically generated each time I forward a file to PS. That would be indeed great - burning backups directly from Lightroom and preserving all special functions of Lightroom's photo library managemnent! And if they would add function to burn only full res photos and leaving on your computer screen sized versions for reference that would be just perfect. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 07:33 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another how to behave on eBay question. On 3/13/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip] After getting bad wibes about a winning auction I pulled out. It looked too much like a scam operation. Hope I wasn't wrong about this. I don't want to step on anybody's toes without purpose. (I don't like doing it on purpose either). Tim, I guess you are spending the 160$ on women and booze then? :o)
Re: PESO: Today's catch
On 3/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/3/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, make that capital C, as in members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg and members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2,jpg But without the comma: http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2.jpg Nessy's on vacation Dave ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/14 Tue AM 10:16:43 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question. Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. 8- - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
Op Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:42:55 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. 8- Cheap compared to booze. In Norway. I think his female compatriots would agree ;-) -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Another how to behave on eBay question.
Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. Let's let Bill Robb be the judge of that. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Today's catch
Love the first shot. Beautiful light, nice composition. Second shot is interesting but not particularly rewarding as a photograph. Paul On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg
Re: Home Reno part 481
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Cotty wrote: On topic. All shot with the K15mm f3.5... http://www.cottysnaps.com/Greystones/march13.html Seeing as you took on such a giant of a project, I should trust your skills. But am I the only one concerned about the dryer? Kostas
Re: russiancopy
The 300mm f/2.8 Yashmar has been made sporadically in limited quantities for some years. I wrote a test report on it for Shutterbug something like ten years ago. Optically it is a copy of an early Nikkor 300/2.8 . I found the sample I tested to perform very well, but not up to the quality levels of later versions of the Nikkor. I have not seen a Yashmar for sale in quite a while. Can you say how much you paid for it? All of the ones I have seen for sale were rather expensive. Bob On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:00 AM, Fiso_PENTAX wrote: I bought a Russian lens like this here in Budapest used, with k mount: http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/lens/35slrl/51/51.htm It's looks like the copy of the A* 300/2.8 Is there any info about this out there? I did not find anything about the optical formula of the Russian lens, the web page says 8 elements, just like in the A* ... TIA for any info. I am just curious...
Re: Home Reno part 481
On 14/3/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: Seeing as you took on such a giant of a project, I should trust your skills. But am I the only one concerned about the dryer? Yeah, I know - the colour doesn't match the washer. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
This is more than an idea Fernando, it is a plan ;-) Thanks! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 04:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another how to behave on eBay question. As far as I understand, you don't have a way, within the system, to make an offer, given the fact that the auction has ended. The only thing you know is that the seller is under no obligation to sell the item, if you want to play through the system I guess you could send a message to the seller with an offer but tell him that you want the use ebay to complete the transaction and that he/she could repost the item with a buy it now price that matchs your offer. Just an idea; hope that helps. On 3/13/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be tired of my posts on eBay related topics. Then please just ignore them. After getting bad wibes about a winning auction I pulled out. It looked too much like a scam operation. Hope I wasn't wrong about this. I don't want to step on anybody's toes without purpose. (I don't like doing it on purpose either). Now I have stumbled across another auction. It is ended as Reserve not met. Is there any way I can reach this guy giving her/him an offer, within the system? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
- Original Message - From: Derby Chang Subject: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) The guy really is a fool. William Robb
Re: GFM NPW Surprise update
Ahh! BTW PS can't do vectored graphics. You'd need somthing like Illistrator. Dave On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:56:34 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the.. Dave You got it Dave On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:28 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a price for the suprise. Its a bit more than the last time i didi this but reasonable i think. One question. The place asked for the image to come as a Vector image or Image ready image. Can PS do either of these. If not, or if it can, but i cannot,g it sounds like they can do it for me. Dave BTW new idea might not involve different sizes. Dave
Re: PESO - Morning coffee
On 3/14/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't see any coffee in the cup, but you sure captured that early morning, get-outta-my-face-until-I-have-my-cawfee look ;-)) Thanks, Shel. Much appreciated. Christie takes her coffee with lotsa cream and lotsa sugar. If you look very closely you can just see it, but it's almost the same color as the cup. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO - Morning coffee
On 3/13/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A photo of my wife taken just before Christmas, most likely with the MX and M35/2.8. Tri-X, exposure unknown, and either HC-110 or Ilfosol S. I think my memory has completely failed me. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=281 She looks the way I feel right now. cheers, frank, 7:45am, looking at a few e-mails before work starts at 8:00, just starting my second cup of the day (first at work) PS: great pic! -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
He may be a fool. But if so, he is a funny fool. His analogy using bus and a Ferrari is pretty clever. The bus is slow, but it can take a lot more load. Displaying empty frames is also efficient communication; you got to give him that. This said. I don't make my decisions based on his recommendations. I simply read Kennyboy now and then to give my brain some fast food. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 13:27 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison - Original Message - From: Derby Chang Subject: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) The guy really is a fool. William Robb
RE: PESO - Morning coffee
I don't feel anything at morning. I barely exist. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 13:46 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Morning coffee On 3/13/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A photo of my wife taken just before Christmas, most likely with the MX and M35/2.8. Tri-X, exposure unknown, and either HC-110 or Ilfosol S. I think my memory has completely failed me. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=281 She looks the way I feel right now. cheers, frank, 7:45am, looking at a few e-mails before work starts at 8:00, just starting my second cup of the day (first at work) PS: great pic! -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Well, such a large amount of video memory is needed mainly by 3D graphics. To work at 1600x1200/32 bit in plain 2D only 8MB should be enough, 16 MB with no problems. Yes, I know that Quartz uses 3D GPU to build some 3D screen elements, but even then 32 MB should be enough ;-) Either way strange, because they should rather mention in hardware requirements appropriate graphics card. Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM. Apple has tried to offload as much as possible onto the GPU, which means that performance on machines with only 32MB of VRAM is adequate at best. Aperture actually mentions GPU requirements in the minimum system requirements (IIRC it's a Radeon 9600) -Adam
Re: Another how to behave on eBay
If you've made an offer on an item, Ebay provides a second chance offer feature to the seller. He can contact you thru the system with an offer just for you. If you have NOT made an offer, your only option is to contact the seller using Ebay's message system. Then make your arrangements using ordinary non-Ebay email. Ebay discourages this, saying that you're running a big risk. I don't see that the risk is much more than the ordinary risk you run with Ebay (and the only irritations I've had in many years is with people gouging you on shipping charges). Mainly, Ebay makes no commission if you do this.
PESO - The Tree Cycle
One more, and then I'll stop assaulting your senses for a while. http://www.twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=282 Taken in December at a Christmas Tree farm near our home. From the same roll as Morning Coffee. Thanks for looking. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
But booze in Norway can be free! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4802928.stm - Original Message - From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question. Op Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:42:55 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. 8- Cheap compared to booze. In Norway. I think his female compatriots would agree ;-) -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Adam Maas wrote on 14.03.06 14:15: Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, For what? What 3D operations does aperture do to 2D pictures? Please don't tell me that GPU is used for image editing, because it is not true. Yes, there were specialised graphic cards for Mac that had dedicated CPUs accelerating many photoshop filters, but it was back in early nineties and won't probably happen again. GPUs used in today's cards are used solely for 3D operations acceleration and won't accelarate image editing calculations. so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM. Apple has tried to offload as much as possible onto the GPU, which means that performance on machines with only 32MB of VRAM is adequate at best. Aperture actually mentions GPU requirements in the minimum system requirements (IIRC it's a Radeon 9600) If lightroom can run just happy on much lower spec Mac with Quartz enabled graphic card I can't see any reason why Aperture couldn't. For me it is rather Apple's politics to convince pro photographers to buy a new Mac. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
For what? What 3D operations does aperture do to 2D pictures? Please don't tell me that GPU is used for image editing, because it is not true. Yes, there were specialised graphic cards for Mac that had dedicated CPUs accelerating many photoshop filters, but it was back in early nineties and won't probably happen again. GPUs used in today's cards are used solely for 3D operations acceleration and won't accelarate image editing calculations. Wrong, sorry. GPU can be used to do these kind of things as well as certain mathematical operations. Of course, only certain kinds of things are faster with GPU. But then are they are usually a LOT faster. I will try to dig a bit, I dunno where I saw all this. I don't like claimng things and giving no link so I will try to get you one. -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: PESO-Air Show Weekend
Wonderful photos, Walter. The F-16, since it's introduction, has always been my favorite modern fighter. And who doesn't like a Mustang? As for the Starfighter, this is my favorite fighter of all time. It's simply an elegant bird - meat and potatoes, no frills. I find it hard to believe, though, that this is the last flying 104. If my memory hasn't completely deserted me, wasn't the CF-104 a Canadian variation? If that's the case, it seems reasonable that this is the last flying Canadian Starfighter. But the Italian air force saw fit to upgrade and maintain their 104 fleet until the Eurofighter was available. I think they were flying them until 2000 or 2001. There has to be at least a few of those still in working order being used for training, in private collections, etc. On 3/11/06, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TICO Warbird Museum Air Show is this weekend in Titusville, FL. Had not been in a long time so my son and I went. Not having to pay for film and processing probably paid for my camera!! Here is one example of the fun. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/P51F15F16.jpg Walt -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
What's GPU? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM.
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Thibouille wrote on 14.03.06 14:47: GPU can be used to do these kind of things as well as certain mathematical operations. Of course, only certain kinds of things are faster with GPU. But then are they are usually a LOT faster. Only certain operations not actual image editing. And I'm not sure if it can do operations on data in main memory, or only in graphical memory thus making it suitable only for display. I will try to dig a bit, I dunno where I saw all this. I don't like claimng things and giving no link so I will try to get you one. OK, good idea. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 15:12: What's GPU? Graphics Processing Unit -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Graphics Processing Unit. Dave On 3/14/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's GPU? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM.
Re: PESO: Today's catch
I like the first one. Nice mood. Incredible color and good composition. On 3/14/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love the first shot. Beautiful light, nice composition. Second shot is interesting but not particularly rewarding as a photograph. Paul On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg
Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
I guess I'll smugle my bottle of tequila herradura reposado that I just bought in my business trip to Mexico City and exchange that for women while this market anomaly is in place; although my wife may not enjoy the journey, how much you get for women again? On 3/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:42:55 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. 8- Cheap compared to booze. In Norway. I think his female compatriots would agree ;-) -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 15:23: Is that the same thing as a video card, or something different? No, it's a dedicated processor unit on graphics card that an do a certain 3d graphics operations lightening from this work main processor - CPU. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:12 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's GPU? Well, it's sure not GNU ! Bob
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
In what ways? What other RAW conversions have you seen or used besides ACR 2.4? Shel [Original Message] (Ralf R. Radermacher) The RAW treatment is the best I've ever seen (I'm still on PS CS non-2).
Re: GFM NPW Surprise update
Ahh! See it makes sense know dose'nt it.g BTW PS can't do vectored graphics. You'd need somthing like Illistrator. Ok thanks. No need to buy a program for 1 measly Logo. They can convert it then for me.:-) Dave B Dave S On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:56:34 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the.. Dave You got it Dave On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:33:28 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a price for the suprise. Its a bit more than the last time i didi this but reasonable i think. One question. The place asked for the image to come as a Vector image or Image ready image. Can PS do either of these. If not, or if it can, but i cannot,g it sounds like they can do it for me. Dave BTW new idea might not involve different sizes. Dave
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Hmmm ... that sounds very nice - at least the possibility sounds nice. Marco mentioned that he liked the BW conversion, but I don't recall him mentioning that the conversion could be done at the RAW stage. Converting during import is a nice option. I assume that feature can be turned off, or that the DNG files can be put in a user selected directory? Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk While not a replacement for final retouching in Photoshop, it is a great replacement for raw converting and photos managmenet applications. It has most of functions found in Adobe RAW Converter + some ready to go sets of effects like converting to BW at RAW stage. [...] And it has an option to do RAW - DNG converting during photos import too.
Re: MP vs MB
All helpful stuff. I understand (generally) the advantages of shooting Raw and intend to sort it out all day Sunday; (camera shop closed). I'm looking forward to my impression at the end of the day. This all may give me a reality prospective when the 10mp becomes avail. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds about right. Pentax sensibly calibrates the metering on the DSLRs for JPEG capture to protect you from highlight saturation, which generally means a little less than what you might expect for a film camera exposure of the same ISO. This results in well-saturated midtones and colors with minimal highlight blowout, and a little headroom for image processing. You have much more leeway when capturing in RAW format, where you can stand adding up to 1.3EV more exposure, depending upon the scene dynamics, for best results. Godfrey On Mar 13, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote: The images opened in PS at 17.2mb and are decent. The setting was *** at 200 ISO. They all appeared to be slightly under exposed, but easily handled in PS. Thanks, Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presuming the camera was set to full resolution and JPEG *** (Fine) quality, that sounds about right. As long as the exposure was on the mark and the scenes you shot weren't too difficult with contrast, you should have decent pictures. Godfrey On Mar 13, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Group, Just shot 9 fine jpg images which yielded files in the 'prox range of 2.5mb to 3.5mb. Shot no RAW. I know that there was a discussion on this topic several months ago, but what might I expect in the way of mb with such a file setting? Local photo shop has a few DL's and offered one to play with. I shot a few frames which they transferred to a CD and gave it to me to piddle with. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 15:38: Hmmm ... that sounds very nice - at least the possibility sounds nice. Marco mentioned that he liked the BW conversion, but I don't recall him mentioning that the conversion could be done at the RAW stage. Converting during import is a nice option. I assume that feature can be turned off, or that the DNG files can be put in a user selected directory? BW conversion is like other operations on RAW files in Lightroom made virtually - you see the effect of operation on the screen but original RAW file is untouched, only sidecar .xmp file with information about your settings for each image is saved in the same directory. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:41, Derby Chang wrote: I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) I normally find Ken to be kind of a drip, but this was humorous and made a good point. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 5:37 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, For what? What 3D operations does aperture do to 2D pictures? Please don't tell me that GPU is used for image editing, because it is not true. Yes, there were specialised graphic cards for Mac that had dedicated CPUs accelerating many photoshop filters, but it was back in early nineties and won't probably happen again. GPUs used in today's cards are used solely for 3D operations acceleration and won't accelarate image editing calculations. We, err, Apple started integrating Quartz rendering with GPU processing power about 2002-2003. http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/quartzextreme/ Previous similar efforts from Apple during the early 1990s are mostly irrelevant to this work as the teams responsible for them are completely different. Remember that I worked at Apple all through this development period, from 1991 to 2004. If lightroom can run just happy on much lower spec Mac with Quartz enabled graphic card I can't see any reason why Aperture couldn't. For me it is rather Apple's politics to convince pro photographers to buy a new Mac. Aperture and Lightroom represent completely different software design and implementation philosophies. Apple does have a stake in encouraging new system sales, but the engineering team working on Aperture really isn't a part of that. Their design and implementation is dependent upon much higher spec hardware requirements, and they want even higher, where Adobe is addressing the very large base of existing customers and users with more traditional ideas. Aperture is looking to push the edge, where Lightroom is looking to fit into the recent and current hardware envelope. Godfrey
RE: PESO - Morning coffee
I suspect it's more a just what are you up to -now-? look. Great shot, Scott! Rick --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't see any coffee in the cup, but you sure captured that early morning, get-outta-my-face-until-I-have-my-cawfee look ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: Scott Loveless A photo of my wife taken just before Christmas, most likely with the MX and M35/2.8. Tri-X, exposure unknown, and either HC-110 or Ilfosol S. I think my memory has completely failed me. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=281 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
The key is that video cards can contain GPUs, but not all video cards do. Godfrey On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:46 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Sounds like the same thing as a video card, which has a dedicated processor for graphics. Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 15:23: Is that the same thing as a video card, or something different? No, it's a dedicated processor unit on graphics card that an do a certain 3d graphics operations lightening from this work main processor - CPU.
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Lightroom is all about workflow: Data Assets Management integrated with RAW conversion. It's not an RGB editing tool, although if all your editing happens in the RAW conversion stage it could be. You can do BW conversion in Camera Raw too. Bruce Fraser talks about it in Real World Camera Raw I've played with it a little, but I prefer my technique which works in RGB space post RAW conversion. Lightroom packages/automates some of the possible manipulations, however, and could prove advantageous. Godfrey On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hmmm ... that sounds very nice - at least the possibility sounds nice. Marco mentioned that he liked the BW conversion, but I don't recall him mentioning that the conversion could be done at the RAW stage. Converting during import is a nice option. I assume that feature can be turned off, or that the DNG files can be put in a user selected directory? Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk While not a replacement for final retouching in Photoshop, it is a great replacement for raw converting and photos managmenet applications. It has most of functions found in Adobe RAW Converter + some ready to go sets of effects like converting to BW at RAW stage. [...] And it has an option to do RAW - DNG converting during photos import too.
Re: MP vs MB
Do obtain a copy of Real World Camera Raw ... by Bruce Fraser. Sorting out RAW conversion concepts and ideas is generally much more than a day's work if you're starting from scratch, you can shortcut a lot of the learning required with Bruce's book. Godfrey On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: All helpful stuff. I understand (generally) the advantages of shooting Raw and intend to sort it out all day Sunday; (camera shop closed). I'm looking forward to my impression at the end of the day. This all may give me a reality prospective when the 10mp becomes avail.
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Adam Maas wrote on 14.03.06 14:15: Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, For what? What 3D operations does aperture do to 2D pictures? Please don't tell me that GPU is used for image editing, because it is not true. Yes, there were specialised graphic cards for Mac that had dedicated CPUs accelerating many photoshop filters, but it was back in early nineties and won't probably happen again. GPUs used in today's cards are used solely for 3D operations acceleration and won't accelarate image editing calculations. Everything in the Tiger UI is rendered on a 3D surface if Quartz 3D is enabled. Aperture offloads calculations onto the GPU as well, using the Core Image framework and Image Units(Which is an accelleration architecture designed to take full advantage of the processing power sitting unused in the GPU). Core Image essentially uses the floating point speed of the GPU to massively accellerate 2D calculations. The other advantage is that Core Image can do parallel processing of said calculations, using the SIMD units on the CPU (Altivec and SSE2 on PPC and Intel respectively) as well as the GPU. Here's a good overview: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/coreimage.html so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM. Apple has tried to offload as much as possible onto the GPU, which means that performance on machines with only 32MB of VRAM is adequate at best. Aperture actually mentions GPU requirements in the minimum system requirements (IIRC it's a Radeon 9600) If lightroom can run just happy on much lower spec Mac with Quartz enabled graphic card I can't see any reason why Aperture couldn't. For me it is rather Apple's politics to convince pro photographers to buy a new Mac. Because Lightroom doesn't use Image Units, Aperture does. Making Lightroom far less dependant on GPU performance. Lightroom performs much better on low-end hardware, while Aperture really shows off what the high-end hardware can do, because unlike Lightroom, Aperture can take full advantage of the increase in GPU power. -Adam
RE: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question.
For some reason none of the women on list contributes to this thread ;-) Seriously, I can't say I blame them. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Fernando Terrazzino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 15:27 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: Another how to behave on eBay question. I guess I'll smugle my bottle of tequila herradura reposado that I just bought in my business trip to Mexico City and exchange that for women while this market anomaly is in place; although my wife may not enjoy the journey, how much you get for women again? On 3/14/06, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:42:55 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yep. And 160$ is a heck of a lot of women ;-D I'm not sure your compatriot females will be happy, being granted the status of cheapest thing to buy in Norway. 8- Cheap compared to booze. In Norway. I think his female compatriots would agree ;-) -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Graphics Processing Unit, which is the dedicated CPU that is the core of any Video Card. ATi Radeon's and NVidia GeForce's are GPU's (The card just holds them, the Video RAM and any accessories like TV-Out chips). -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's GPU? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Quartz 3D in Tiger uses the GPU for almost all graphics (For example, Quicktime 7 plays back on an OpenGL surface), and Aperture actually uses the GPU for a lot of the basic image editing calculations, so it requires a hefty GPU with lots of VRAM.
Re: MP vs MB
Recommendation seconded. Best RAW workflow book, by a large margin. -Adam Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Do obtain a copy of Real World Camera Raw ... by Bruce Fraser. Sorting out RAW conversion concepts and ideas is generally much more than a day's work if you're starting from scratch, you can shortcut a lot of the learning required with Bruce's book. Godfrey On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: All helpful stuff. I understand (generally) the advantages of shooting Raw and intend to sort it out all day Sunday; (camera shop closed). I'm looking forward to my impression at the end of the day. This all may give me a reality prospective when the 10mp becomes avail.
Re: PESO - The Tree Cycle
Nice shot, love the punnish title. -Adam Scott Loveless wrote: One more, and then I'll stop assaulting your senses for a while. http://www.twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=282 Taken in December at a Christmas Tree farm near our home. From the same roll as Morning Coffee. Thanks for looking. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
I've not gotten Fraser's book yet, as I was sans-digi for a while. Seems about time to order it now ... Someone pointed out the reviews over at Luminous Landscape. They provide some good information. I've only just read some of the first article. Here are the URL's for anyone interested: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom1.shtml http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showforum=31 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom-tips.shtml Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Lightroom is all about workflow: Data Assets Management integrated with RAW conversion. It's not an RGB editing tool, although if all your editing happens in the RAW conversion stage it could be. You can do BW conversion in Camera Raw too. Bruce Fraser talks about it in Real World Camera Raw I've played with it a little, but I prefer my technique which works in RGB space post RAW conversion. Lightroom packages/automates some of the possible manipulations, however, and could prove advantageous.
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
So if I understand all this correctly, if I wanted to run Aperture on my old G4 dual 867, the best upgrade I could make would be a kickass video card? Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? -Aaron
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Sounds like the same thing as a video card, which has a dedicated processor for graphics. Shel [Original Message] From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Shel Belinkoff wrote on 14.03.06 15:23: Is that the same thing as a video card, or something different? No, it's a dedicated processor unit on graphics card that an do a certain 3d graphics operations lightening from this work main processor - CPU.
Re: MP vs MB
Appreciated suggestion! Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do obtain a copy of Real World Camera Raw ... by Bruce Fraser. Sorting out RAW conversion concepts and ideas is generally much more than a day's work if you're starting from scratch, you can shortcut a lot of the learning required with Bruce's book. Godfrey On Mar 14, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: All helpful stuff. I understand (generally) the advantages of shooting Raw and intend to sort it out all day Sunday; (camera shop closed). I'm looking forward to my impression at the end of the day. This all may give me a reality prospective when the 10mp becomes avail. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO-Air Show Weekend
Cotty wrote: On 12/3/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Understand that the F-15 is about the baddest think in the air. True? Hm. http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/typhoon.html It's a pretty close thing ;-) Looks nice, but how could they have named it Typhoon??? Here's a *real* Typhoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon ;-)
Re: PUG comments, part 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/3/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: God dag mann, økseskaft Slikkepott!!! Nå tøyser dere fælt! My, the Klingons are chatty today!
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
This was one of his more readable posts. Much of the time, I can't stand him, but this was rather funny. I thought he made a pretty good point out of showing the blank frames. I can think of many times that I wouldn't have had the time for a 4X5 and would have to settle for the digital. Entertaining to say the least. -- Bruce Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 5:00:26 AM, you wrote: TØ He may be a fool. But if so, he is a funny fool. His analogy using bus and a TØ Ferrari is pretty clever. The bus is slow, but it can take a lot more load. TØ Displaying empty frames is also efficient communication; you got to give him TØ that. TØ This said. I don't make my decisions based on his recommendations. I simply TØ read Kennyboy now and then to give my brain some fast food. TØ Tim TØ Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) TØ Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds TØ (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 13:27 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison - Original Message - From: Derby Chang Subject: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) The guy really is a fool. William Robb
RE: PESO - The Tree Cycle
Hi Scott I like that one... you cancontinue to post ;-) greetings Markus One more, and then I'll stop assaulting your senses for a while. http://www.twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=282 Taken in December at a Christmas Tree farm near our home. From the same roll as Morning Coffee. Thanks for looking. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com
Re: OT Need to determine hat type for the GFMers
Dave Brooks wrote: To the PDMLers attending GFM this June. Logo is just about set up. One last tweak and inspection by one of our Sr Units.g Do you prefer a hat that has a sloped or contoured front like the link below, or http://www.barryskopitsales.com/LineNames.htm?CD=7172ID=66442 I like this first one best. How much extra to get a propeller on the top?
Re: PESO: Today's catch
Hi! members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg and members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2.jpg Bob, you should consider adding http:// in front of your links and properly spell - comma and colon can be disastrously different. Catch1 is rather excellent photograph. Catch2 is, well, so-so. I think Catch1 deserves proper processing and printing real big. I should remember this kind of idea for future reference ;-). Boris
Re: PESO - Morning coffee
On 3/14/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't feel anything at morning. I barely exist. Sorry, Tim, There are no levels of existence. One either exists, or they don't - no qualifications or modifications are possible. Since you typed your post, I suspect you exist. (Dactylo ergo sum). I just made up the dactylo part, but since they didn't have typewriters in ancient Rome, I thought I'd take the French word and change it a bit. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
ACDSee Pro - anyone using it?
ACDSee Pro - Any comments for Pentax DSLR usage? I have ACDSee 7, hard drive failed and have used my limit on licenses. I'm sure they would give me another but I haven't tried. I'm still looking for the all in one like Adobe Lightroom enhanced with more Photoshop features. CS freaks me out. I'm just not ready to invest the time. ACDSee Pro may be an interlude or I may just stay with v 7 (8bit only) and Raw Shooter. Thanks! Mark Stringer
Re: OT Need to determine hat type for the GFMers
I prefer the first style, but my wife hates the billboard hats so much that I try to wear them as much as possible. Either is fine. On 3/14/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the PDMLer's attending GFM this June. Logo is just about set up. One last tweak and inspection by one of our Sr Units.g Do you prefer a hat that has a sloped or contoured front like the link below, or http://www.barryskopitsales.com/LineNames.htm?CD=7172ID=66442 A more solid, stand up front like the link below.(my preference) http://www.reignwear.ca/LineNames.htm?CD=7180ID=66514 These are just sample to show type, not actual style. I'm looking at 3 dozen to make, and I can mix and match I'm sure. Any preferred colour. I was thinking a light grey. Logo will have black, red and GFM blue. I have a ball parkgcost per hat, so its doable as far as i'm concerned at this end. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me off list. Dave Brooks David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:17:07AM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Aaron Reynolds wrote: So if I understand all this correctly, if I wanted to run Aperture on my old G4 dual 867, the best upgrade I could make would be a kickass video card? Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? -Aaron The Beta release was likely due to Aperture, but both apps were in development long before either company knew about the other project. Both are logical outgrowths of previous apps, iPhoto in the case of Aperture and Adobe Bridge in the case of Lightroom Are you sure about that? Lightroom appears to come from what used to be Macromedia, rather than from Adobe itself. That would make it a competitor to Adobe Bridge (at least when originally designed) rather than a follow-on.
RE: PESO: Today's catch
Good, nice, etc, as many other has said ;-) About the URL typo. To copy and paste directly from the browser winder is the fool proof method when posting links. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 09:34 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Today's catch Sorry, make that capital C, as in members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg and members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2,jpg Regards, Bob S. From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 14, 2006 2:21 AM Subject: PESO: Today's catch Awoke early this morning in San Diego and went out just after sunrise. members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch1.jpg Caught using the *ist DS and the 80 mm end of the 80-200/2.8 zoom. Camera selected f11 @ 1/1000 for a fine jpeg, resized for the web. After some shots, I heard this blowing noise like a whale! members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch2.jpg Using the 200 mm end of the zoom, action mode f4 @ 1/2000. Cropped about 25% from the left and risized for the web. (Thought I was in Scotland with Nessie for a few moments. The locals say it was a juvenile Gray whale, very rare in the harbor!) Shot about 140 images...way more than film. I'm getting up early again tomorrow. ;-) Regards, Bob S.
Re: OT Need to determine hat type for the GFMers
I prefer the first one, sloped style. In fact, I'll probably be wearing one most of the weekend. :-) -Mat On 3/14/06, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the PDMLer's attending GFM this June. Logo is just about set up. One last tweak and inspection by one of our Sr Units.g Do you prefer a hat that has a sloped or contoured front like the link below, or http://www.barryskopitsales.com/LineNames.htm?CD=7172ID=66442 A more solid, stand up front like the link below.(my preference) http://www.reignwear.ca/LineNames.htm?CD=7180ID=66514 These are just sample to show type, not actual style. I'm looking at 3 dozen to make, and I can mix and match I'm sure. Any preferred colour. I was thinking a light grey. Logo will have black, red and GFM blue. I have a ball parkgcost per hat, so its doable as far as i'm concerned at this end. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me off list.
RE: ACDSee Pro - anyone using it?
What about the new version of Adobe Photoshop Elements? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Stringer ACDSee Pro - Any comments for Pentax DSLR usage? I have ACDSee 7, hard drive failed and have used my limit on licenses. I'm sure they would give me another but I haven't tried. I'm still looking for the all in one like Adobe Lightroom enhanced with more Photoshop features. CS freaks me out. I'm just not ready to invest the time. ACDSee Pro may be an interlude or I may just stay with v 7 (8bit only) and Raw Shooter.
Re: OT Need to determine hat type for the GFMers
First type. Might I suggest a nice khaki color for the background? Dave Brooks wrote: To the PDMLer’s attending GFM this June. Logo is just about set up. One last tweak and inspection by one of our Sr Units.g Do you prefer a hat that has a sloped or contoured front like the link below, or http://www.barryskopitsales.com/LineNames.htm?CD=7172ID=66442 A more solid, stand up front like the link below.(my preference) http://www.reignwear.ca/LineNames.htm?CD=7180ID=66514 These are just sample to show type, not actual style. I’m looking at 3 dozen to make, and I can mix and match I’m sure. Any preferred colour. I was thinking a light grey. Logo will have black, red and GFM blue. I have a ball parkgcost per hat, so its doable as far as i'm concerned at this end. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me off list. Dave Brooks David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H
RE: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
For the sake of justice. Aaron. Are you reading the same article as me? If you do, I find your conclusions a bit... odd. He does not say 4x5 is a dinosaur and a bad choice. He says he loves his D200 with IR, electric ignition, implemented coffee machine and so on, for - it's _convenience_. But he also says he loves his 4x5, for - it's _superb quality_. The downer for medium format is, according to him, that this quality does not help if the tool is the back of the car when you are on top of a mountain. Personally I am a bit with him on this. I have one steady and heavy tripod, and one light and wobbly tripod. To me that makes sense. But it does not mean that my steady tripod was a bad choice. Or does it? I never thought I'll defend Rocky the Clown in public ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 17:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Christian wrote: At the risk of being flamed He DOES have some nice pictures there... Sure, but his premise and conclusions are odd -- since he didn't buy/bring the correct 4x5 camera for the style of shooting he wanted to do (run 'n' gun, apparently), 4x5 is a poor format choice. Had he brought a field camera with a multiple-shot back, I can't see the process being so much slower than with a tripoded DSLR. But ultimately, it's the same old song -- don't shoot film if you want it in less than a day. -Aaron
Re: MP vs MB
If I do (wife lets me) go for the 10mp..or?, I'll definitely obtain the suggested book. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Do obtain a copy of Real World Camera Raw ... by Bruce Fraser. Recommendation seconded. Best RAW workflow book, by a large margin. Recommendation thirded :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT Need to determine hat type for the GFMers
To the PDMLers attending GFM this June. Logo is just about set up. One last tweak and inspection by one of our Sr Units.g Do you prefer a hat that has a sloped or contoured front like the link below, or http://www.barryskopitsales.com/LineNames.htm?CD=7172ID=66442 A more solid, stand up front like the link below.(my preference) http://www.reignwear.ca/LineNames.htm?CD=7180ID=66514 These are just sample to show type, not actual style. Im looking at 3 dozen to make, and I can mix and match Im sure. Any preferred colour. I was thinking a light grey. Logo will have black, red and GFM blue. I have a ball parkgcost per hat, so its doable as far as i'm concerned at this end. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me off list. Dave Brooks David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
John Francis wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:17:07AM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Aaron Reynolds wrote: So if I understand all this correctly, if I wanted to run Aperture on my old G4 dual 867, the best upgrade I could make would be a kickass video card? Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? -Aaron The Beta release was likely due to Aperture, but both apps were in development long before either company knew about the other project. Both are logical outgrowths of previous apps, iPhoto in the case of Aperture and Adobe Bridge in the case of Lightroom Are you sure about that? Lightroom appears to come from what used to be Macromedia, rather than from Adobe itself. That would make it a competitor to Adobe Bridge (at least when originally designed) rather than a follow-on. Yes, I'm sure. Check the development story, it was developed by a splinter off the Photoshop development group. the Macromedia part is simply because Macromedia already had infrastructure for public betas (labs.macromedia.com) while Adobe didn't. -Adam
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Christian wrote: At the risk of being flamed He DOES have some nice pictures there... Sure, but his premise and conclusions are odd -- since he didn't buy/bring the correct 4x5 camera for the style of shooting he wanted to do (run 'n' gun, apparently), 4x5 is a poor format choice. Had he brought a field camera with a multiple-shot back, I can't see the process being so much slower than with a tripoded DSLR. But ultimately, it's the same old song -- don't shoot film if you want it in less than a day. -Aaron Again, I could give a crap what Kenny boy writes about anything. Just thought some of his images were nice. On a personal note, I don't make comparisons, nor do I care about other people writing about them ( my camera/format/life/daddy/job/god/etc is better than your camera/format/life/daddy/job/god/etc). I use what works for me. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: PESO-Air Show Weekend
In keeping with their meteorological theme, I believe they, also, had one named Hurricane. I suppose Cyclone and Tornado were on the list somewhere. Jack --- Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 12/3/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Understand that the F-15 is about the baddest think in the air. True? Hm. http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/typhoon.html It's a pretty close thing ;-) Looks nice, but how could they have named it Typhoon??? Here's a *real* Typhoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon ;-) I'm just annoyed that the F-22 didn't get named what the test pilots and design team wanted it named, which was Lightning II. Bloody USAF and their bird naming scheme. -Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ACDSee Pro - anyone using it?
Mark Stringer wrote: ACDSee Pro - Any comments for Pentax DSLR usage? I have ACDSee 7, hard drive failed and have used my limit on licenses. I'm sure they would give me another but I haven't tried. I'm still looking for the all in one like Adobe Lightroom enhanced with more Photoshop features. CS freaks me out. I'm just not ready to invest the time. ACDSee Pro may be an interlude or I may just stay with v 7 (8bit only) and Raw Shooter. Thanks! Mark Stringer It's decent as an image organizer, but it's very basic as an editor (As ACDSee 7 is as well). I played with it, but found it too pricey as an interim solution until Lightroom ships a Windows version (My mac is underpowered for Lightroom use). -Adam
Re: PESO-Air Show Weekend
Oh..ya got me. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Oh yeah, well our P-51 can whip your Typhoon any ol' day..so there. =)) Only because we let you have our Merlin engine to go in it :-P --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 12/3/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Understand that the F-15 is about the baddest think in the air. True? Hm. http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/typhoon.html It's a pretty close thing ;-) Looks nice, but how could they have named it Typhoon??? Here's a *real* Typhoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon ;-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: Today's catch
Thanks Paul, Fernando, and Godfrey, I have other shots of that pair of boats with slightly different compositions. They were cropped more tightly, but on review I liked the water on the edges. And Paul you're right, the whale shot is a 'Gee wiz, look what I found' rather than good photography. To Godfrey's point, the lesson taught is to carry your camera around and take more pictures. You never know what you'll find. Cotty, thanks for catching the comma...typing late last night. And the whale was back this morning. Regards, Bob S. On 3/14/06, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the first one. Nice mood. Incredible color and good composition. On 3/14/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love the first shot. Beautiful light, nice composition. Second shot is interesting but not particularly rewarding as a photograph. Paul On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg
Re: PESO: Today's catch
Very nice sunrise. You managed to keep some detail in the boats, which I like. The mood is wonderful. On the right edge it is a bit overexposed and I see some minor flare, but all in all, nicely done. I would be tempted to play around with that one quite a bit to see what could be done with it (who's to say you haven't already done that). The whale brings back memories for me. The last time I was in Maui, it was whale season. You could see them out in the bays quite often. We took a sailing outing in one of the old America's Cup vessels - so small group and crew and no motor noise. It was amazing to be out there among the whales and hear them spouting and such. I don't think I ever got any pictures to be proud of - I'll have to look through them again. You get almost no warning when they surface or breach and it is over so fast - one would really have to practice and learn the patterns of the whales to get some good shots. Thanks for sharing and bringing back some memories. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 12:33:55 AM, you wrote: BS Sorry, make that capital C, as in BS members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg BS and BS members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2,jpg BS Regards, Bob S. From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Date: Mar 14, 2006 2:21 AM BS Subject: PESO: Today's catch BS Awoke early this morning in San Diego and went out just after sunrise. BSmembers.aol.com/rfsindg/catch1.jpg BS Caught using the *ist DS and the 80 mm end of the 80-200/2.8 zoom. BS Camera selected f11 @ 1/1000 for a fine jpeg, resized for the web. BS After some shots, I heard this blowing noise like a whale! BS members.aol.com/rfsindg/catch2.jpg BS Using the 200 mm end of the zoom, action mode f4 @ 1/2000. BS Cropped about 25% from the left and risized for the web. BS (Thought I was in Scotland with Nessie for a few moments. BS The locals say it was a juvenile Gray whale, very rare in the harbor!) BS Shot about 140 images...way more than film. BS I'm getting up early again tomorrow. ;-) BS Regards, Bob S.
Re: PAW - No Parking
frank theriault wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4212438size=lg Hope you get a chuckle out of this one, too. g Thanks or looking. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson You have to know I would :) Great grab, Frank.. Xo, ann
Re: MP vs MB
Adam Maas wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Do obtain a copy of Real World Camera Raw ... by Bruce Fraser. Recommendation seconded. Best RAW workflow book, by a large margin. Recommendation thirded :)
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Because Lightroom doesn't use Image Units, Aperture does. Making Lightroom far less dependant on GPU performance. Lightroom performs much better on low-end hardware, while Aperture really shows off what the high-end hardware can do, because unlike Lightroom, Aperture can take full advantage of the increase in GPU power. As I said, utterly different design and implementation philosophies although in many ways the end result to a user looks very similar. Godfrey
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
Derby Chang wrote: I'm sorry to cause potential mental harm to my beloved PDMLers. But I really laughed out loud when I read this. A few blank frames of 4x5 Fuji RVP custom made for Kenny vs D200 shots KENNY WARNING - do not click on this link if you have any form of kenny-allergy. You will break out in livid red spots. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200/d200-vs-4x5.htm Needless to add...this is highly :) At the risk of being flamed He DOES have some nice pictures there... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net
Re: Really Really OT: Hooray, finally, balanced film to digital comparison
On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Christian wrote: At the risk of being flamed He DOES have some nice pictures there... Sure, but his premise and conclusions are odd -- since he didn't buy/bring the correct 4x5 camera for the style of shooting he wanted to do (run 'n' gun, apparently), 4x5 is a poor format choice. Had he brought a field camera with a multiple-shot back, I can't see the process being so much slower than with a tripoded DSLR. But ultimately, it's the same old song -- don't shoot film if you want it in less than a day. -Aaron
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: No. You need a new computer. The minimum requirements are a 1.8GHz G5, which is dog slow running aperture. You need a kickass video card in a new kickass computer. Ho hum, it's always the way. The dual G4 was purchased because the G3 400 was dog slow running Photoshop 5.5 with the files from my then-new Sprintscan 120. The dual still works happily with those 500+ MB files and yet chugs on these teeny 10 MB RAW files. Good thing that I shoot a lot of film, huh? Otherwise I'd have to buy a new computer again. -Aaron
Re: PESO-Air Show Weekend
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 12/3/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: Understand that the F-15 is about the baddest think in the air. True? Hm. http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/typhoon.html It's a pretty close thing ;-) Looks nice, but how could they have named it Typhoon??? Here's a *real* Typhoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon ;-) I'm just annoyed that the F-22 didn't get named what the test pilots and design team wanted it named, which was Lightning II. Bloody USAF and their bird naming scheme. -Adam
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Aaron Reynolds wrote: So if I understand all this correctly, if I wanted to run Aperture on my old G4 dual 867, the best upgrade I could make would be a kickass video card? Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? -Aaron The Beta release was likely due to Aperture, but both apps were in development long before either company knew about the other project. Both are logical outgrowths of previous apps, iPhoto in the case of Aperture and Adobe Bridge in the case of Lightroom (Which is very much a reimplementation of Bridge for pure photography use). -Adam
Re: PESO: Today's catch
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch1.jpg http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Catch2.jpg Please use in fully specified URLs like the above when you post links, Bob. It's a lot easier for everyone. Both are neat photos. I love the feel and composition in Catch1 ... you got that morning light and the water just right. Catch2 is more a Yay, I got one! than a stunning photographic composition. Getting *any* picture of a whale is a decent achievement. :-) hmm. i have to get out with my camera more often again now. i've been socked in with getting pictures processed and rendered for so long ... Godfrey
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
Aaron Reynolds wrote: So if I understand all this correctly, if I wanted to run Aperture on my old G4 dual 867, the best upgrade I could make would be a kickass video card? No. You need a new computer. The minimum requirements are a 1.8GHz G5, which is dog slow running aperture. You need a kickass video card in a new kickass computer. Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? Yes. And Lightroom, although it has lower minimum requirements, still needs a very fast box. I would say it's unusable (at least if you're actually using it for production) on the G4/low end G5s. -Ryan ] -Aaron
Re: GFM NPW Surprise update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a price for the suprise. Its a bit more than the last time i didi this but reasonable i think. One question. The place asked for the image to come as a Vector image or Image ready image. Can PS do either of these. If not, or if it can, but i cannot,g it sounds like they can do it for me. PS can't make vector images but PS does include Adobe Image Ready so it *can* produce an Image Ready image. Trouble is, there's no such thing as an Image Ready Image, at least in terms of file formats. Image Ready is used primarily with JPEG, PNG and GIF images for the web. It sounds a little as if the person you're talking to doesn't have a good grasp of the issues involved...
Re: OT - Adobe Lightroom
On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Ryan Brooks wrote: Does it make sense that Lightroom has been released to battle Aperture, to try to maintain Adobe's dominance in the photographic world? Yes. And Lightroom, although it has lower minimum requirements, still needs a very fast box. I would say it's unusable (at least if you're actually using it for production) on the G4/low end G5s. I did my first investigations into it with an iMac G4 1.25Ghz, 1G RAM. It worked ok for modest sized projects, not bad for beta release. I'll resume evaluation soon with the PowerMac G5 DP 2Ghz and 3G RAM setup I just installed. It sure makes running a batch process to render DNGs to web rez JPEGs with Photoshop CS2 a LOT faster! Godfrey
