[RBW] Re: FS: Bikepacking Bags - Riv style

[Collin A]

Doing a bump and a price drop:

*Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more beach/Picnicpacking 
trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, or the lunches. It 
was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and the pretty cool patch 
and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently is no longer the case 
with swift industries :/).* Asking $180 + shipping*

*Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $70 shipped.*

Collin, recovering from a broken rib so finally following up on this post, 
in Sacramento

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:57 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Alright, the mini-panniers are sold, the other two bags are still up for 
> grabs:
>
> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*
>
> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
> shipped.*
>
>
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:14:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I'm continuing a purge of my storage closet, and have some camping bags 
>> that I haven't used in a bit that could use a new home as well. 
>>
>> Photos here (along with the hilibike parts on my other post):
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>>
>> *Framework Design Mini Panniers, navy* - These are a lovely and soft 
>> cotton/waxed canvas pair of mini panniers from a bag maker in Australia. 
>> Used for a couple S240s, but the packing setup has changed. They look great 
>> in person and would complement a nice Rivendell frame exquisitely well. It 
>> mounts to any 3-pack-style mounts on frames, forks, or racks. *Asking 
>> $100 + shipping*
>>
>> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
>> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
>> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
>> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
>> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*
>>
>> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
>> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
>> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
>> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
>> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
>> shipped.*
>>
>> Cheers all,
>> Collin in Sactown
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

All parts are sold. Thanks everyone for helping clean out my bike closet!

Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:12:02 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Apologies for the spam, everything is sold except for the hubs, though 
> there have been a few nibbles...
>
> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
> heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
> gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
> Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
> the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
> 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*
>
> Happy Monday All,
> Collin
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:07 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> They are indeed. As for updates, see below:
>>
>>- The cranks will definitely be sold pending payment, there are about 
>>5 people who have replied to me
>>- The saddle and Bar Tape are sold, pending payment
>>
>> The hubs and the brakes are still available.
>>
>> Collin
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Dang those hubs are sweet.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bump...and some updates 
>>>
>>>
>>>- I was able to locate the skewers for the XTR hubs, but the front 
>>>was used and has a couple scratches (I added some photos, along) :/
>>>- Deore brakes are pending maybe?
>>>
>>> Added the following:
>>>
>>>- *Gilles Berthoud Natural/Tan Soulor *- the racing one with 
>>>stainless rails. It is used for maybe 300 miles and shows it in the 
>>> visual 
>>>appearance of the saddle, but the leather is still stiff an unbroken for 
>>> a 
>>>future rider. *Asking $150+shipping*
>>>- *Rivendell SILV3R Cranks, 173 length -* Another OEM part from my 
>>>Clem, with some rub marks along the arms and a bit of dust/grease in 
>>> harder 
>>>to reach spots, but still great and wonderful looking cranks. *Asking 
>>>$100+Shipping*
>>>- *Maware Leather Tape, Tan** - *Good color option for the saddle 
>>>above, and used on the same bike for the same duration. There is some 
>>>discoloration, which I tried to photograph the worst of it. Length is 
>>>unmeasured, but I was able to wrap 48cm crust shaka bars with it 
>>> (example 
>>>photo in the link), and I can supply the end plugs as well if desired. 
>>>These:  Maware Leather Handlebar tape – Rene Herse Cycles 
>>>
>>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/handlebars/maware-leather-handlebar-tape/>.
>>>  
>>>    *Asking $40+shipping*
>>>
>>> I left shipping as a variable as that seems to be highly variable right 
>>> now as well. In general, it will be USPS and insured, and most will end up 
>>> in a flat rate box. Also, if these prices seem ridiculous let me know, 
>>> given the current state of shortages, demand, etc. I have no idea what is a 
>>> reasonable/fair price anymore...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:23:03 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't 
>>>> used them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
>>>> apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
>>>> is, space is limited.
>>>>
>>>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>>>>
>>>> Anywho, I have the following:
>>>> Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a 
>>>> bit dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting 
>>>> bolts, noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have 
>>>> since switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*
>>>>
>>>> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an 
>>>> excellent heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, 
>>>> almost gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the 
>>>> vibrant 
>>>> colors Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

Apologies for the spam, everything is sold except for the hubs, though 
there have been a few nibbles...

XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*

Happy Monday All,
Collin
On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:07 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> They are indeed. As for updates, see below:
>
>- The cranks will definitely be sold pending payment, there are about 
>5 people who have replied to me
>- The saddle and Bar Tape are sold, pending payment
>
> The hubs and the brakes are still available.
>
> Collin
>
>
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dang those hubs are sweet.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> Bump...and some updates 
>>
>>
>>- I was able to locate the skewers for the XTR hubs, but the front 
>>was used and has a couple scratches (I added some photos, along) :/
>>- Deore brakes are pending maybe?
>>
>> Added the following:
>>
>>- *Gilles Berthoud Natural/Tan Soulor *- the racing one with 
>>stainless rails. It is used for maybe 300 miles and shows it in the 
>> visual 
>>appearance of the saddle, but the leather is still stiff an unbroken for 
>> a 
>>future rider. *Asking $150+shipping*
>>- *Rivendell SILV3R Cranks, 173 length -* Another OEM part from my 
>>Clem, with some rub marks along the arms and a bit of dust/grease in 
>> harder 
>>to reach spots, but still great and wonderful looking cranks. *Asking 
>>$100+Shipping*
>>- *Maware Leather Tape, Tan** - *Good color option for the saddle 
>>above, and used on the same bike for the same duration. There is some 
>>discoloration, which I tried to photograph the worst of it. Length is 
>>unmeasured, but I was able to wrap 48cm crust shaka bars with it (example 
>>photo in the link), and I can supply the end plugs as well if desired. 
>>These:  Maware Leather Handlebar tape – Rene Herse Cycles 
>>
>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/handlebars/maware-leather-handlebar-tape/>.
>>  
>>*Asking $40+shipping*
>>
>> I left shipping as a variable as that seems to be highly variable right 
>> now as well. In general, it will be USPS and insured, and most will end up 
>> in a flat rate box. Also, if these prices seem ridiculous let me know, 
>> given the current state of shortages, demand, etc. I have no idea what is a 
>> reasonable/fair price anymore...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin
>>
>> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:23:03 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't 
>>> used them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
>>> apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
>>> is, space is limited.
>>>
>>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>>>
>>> Anywho, I have the following:
>>> Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a 
>>> bit dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting 
>>> bolts, noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have 
>>> since switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*
>>>
>>> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
>>> heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
>>> gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
>>> Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
>>> the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
>>> 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*
>>>
>>> Enjoy the weekend,
>>> Collin "what is rain" in Sacramento, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikepacking Bags - Riv style

[Collin A]

Alright, the mini-panniers are sold, the other two bags are still up for 
grabs:

*Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more beach/Picnicpacking 
trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, or the lunches. It 
was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and the pretty cool patch 
and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently is no longer the case 
with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*

*Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 shipped.*


On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:14:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I'm continuing a purge of my storage closet, and have some camping bags 
> that I haven't used in a bit that could use a new home as well. 
>
> Photos here (along with the hilibike parts on my other post):
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>
> *Framework Design Mini Panniers, navy* - These are a lovely and soft 
> cotton/waxed canvas pair of mini panniers from a bag maker in Australia. 
> Used for a couple S240s, but the packing setup has changed. They look great 
> in person and would complement a nice Rivendell frame exquisitely well. It 
> mounts to any 3-pack-style mounts on frames, forks, or racks. *Asking 
> $100 + shipping*
>
> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*
>
> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
> shipped.*
>
> Cheers all,
> Collin in Sactown
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

They are indeed. As for updates, see below:

   - The cranks will definitely be sold pending payment, there are about 5 
   people who have replied to me
   - The saddle and Bar Tape are sold, pending payment

The hubs and the brakes are still available.

Collin


On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dang those hubs are sweet.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>
> Bump...and some updates 
>
>
>- I was able to locate the skewers for the XTR hubs, but the front was 
>used and has a couple scratches (I added some photos, along) :/
>- Deore brakes are pending maybe?
>
> Added the following:
>
>- *Gilles Berthoud Natural/Tan Soulor *- the racing one with stainless 
>rails. It is used for maybe 300 miles and shows it in the visual 
> appearance 
>of the saddle, but the leather is still stiff an unbroken for a future 
>rider. *Asking $150+shipping*
>- *Rivendell SILV3R Cranks, 173 length -* Another OEM part from my 
>Clem, with some rub marks along the arms and a bit of dust/grease in 
> harder 
>to reach spots, but still great and wonderful looking cranks. *Asking 
>$100+Shipping*
>- *Maware Leather Tape, Tan** - *Good color option for the saddle 
>above, and used on the same bike for the same duration. There is some 
>discoloration, which I tried to photograph the worst of it. Length is 
>unmeasured, but I was able to wrap 48cm crust shaka bars with it (example 
>photo in the link), and I can supply the end plugs as well if desired. 
>These:  Maware Leather Handlebar tape – Rene Herse Cycles 
>
> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/handlebars/maware-leather-handlebar-tape/>.
>  
>*Asking $40+shipping*
>
> I left shipping as a variable as that seems to be highly variable right 
> now as well. In general, it will be USPS and insured, and most will end up 
> in a flat rate box. Also, if these prices seem ridiculous let me know, 
> given the current state of shortages, demand, etc. I have no idea what is a 
> reasonable/fair price anymore...
>
> Cheers,
> Collin
>
> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:23:03 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't used 
>> them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
>> apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
>> is, space is limited.
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>>
>> Anywho, I have the following:
>> Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a bit 
>> dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting bolts, 
>> noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have since 
>> switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*
>>
>> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
>> heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
>> gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
>> Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
>> the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
>> 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*
>>
>> Enjoy the weekend,
>> Collin "what is rain" in Sacramento, CA
>>
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[RBW] FS: Bikepacking Bags - Riv style

[Collin A]

Folks,

I'm continuing a purge of my storage closet, and have some camping bags 
that I haven't used in a bit that could use a new home as well. 

Photos here (along with the hilibike parts on my other post):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9

*Framework Design Mini Panniers, navy* - These are a lovely and soft 
cotton/waxed canvas pair of mini panniers from a bag maker in Australia. 
Used for a couple S240s, but the packing setup has changed. They look great 
in person and would complement a nice Rivendell frame exquisitely well. It 
mounts to any 3-pack-style mounts on frames, forks, or racks. *Asking $100 
+ shipping*

*Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more beach/Picnicpacking 
trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, or the lunches. It 
was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and the pretty cool patch 
and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently is no longer the case 
with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + shipping*

*Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 shipped.*

Cheers all,
Collin in Sactown

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[RBW] Re: FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

Bump...and some updates 

   - I was able to locate the skewers for the XTR hubs, but the front was 
   used and has a couple scratches (I added some photos, along) :/
   - Deore brakes are pending maybe?

Added the following:

   - *Gilles Berthoud Natural/Tan Soulor *- the racing one with stainless 
   rails. It is used for maybe 300 miles and shows it in the visual appearance 
   of the saddle, but the leather is still stiff an unbroken for a future 
   rider. *Asking $150+shipping*
   - *Rivendell SILV3R Cranks, 173 length -* Another OEM part from my Clem, 
   with some rub marks along the arms and a bit of dust/grease in harder to 
   reach spots, but still great and wonderful looking cranks. *Asking 
   $100+Shipping*
   - *Maware Leather Tape, Tan** - *Good color option for the saddle above, 
   and used on the same bike for the same duration. There is some 
   discoloration, which I tried to photograph the worst of it. Length is 
   unmeasured, but I was able to wrap 48cm crust shaka bars with it (example 
   photo in the link), and I can supply the end plugs as well if desired. 
   These:  Maware Leather Handlebar tape – Rene Herse Cycles 
   
<https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/handlebars/maware-leather-handlebar-tape/>.
 
   *Asking $40+shipping*

I left shipping as a variable as that seems to be highly variable right now 
as well. In general, it will be USPS and insured, and most will end up in a 
flat rate box. Also, if these prices seem ridiculous let me know, given the 
current state of shortages, demand, etc. I have no idea what is a 
reasonable/fair price anymore...

Cheers,
Collin

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:23:03 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't used 
> them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
> apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
> is, space is limited.
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9
>
> Anywho, I have the following:
> Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a bit 
> dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting bolts, 
> noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have since 
> switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*
>
> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
> heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
> gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
> Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
> the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
> 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*
>
> Enjoy the weekend,
> Collin "what is rain" in Sacramento, CA
>

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[RBW] FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

Folks,

I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't used 
them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
is, space is limited.

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9

Anywho, I have the following:
Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a bit 
dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting bolts, 
noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have since 
switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*

XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*

Enjoy the weekend,
Collin "what is rain" in Sacramento, CA

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[RBW] Re: Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Collin A]

Also check the hanger alignment, but usually that issue results in shifting 
working fine on one end and not the other...and not in the middle as you 
describe.

Was it working fine when you used a 'normal' deraileur?

Collin in single-speed friendly Sacramento

On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 4:34:18 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I'd look for a loose chain first, it might be too stretched in the middle 
> gears where there's not much angle on it. Next is a sticky cable, it might 
> be binding in the housing. 
>
> Also if you're using a Microshift 9 thumb shifter I've found some are less 
> than awesome. They don't recenter as well as Shimano, so you can end up 
> with the shift kinda sticking wherever you pushed it instead of settling 
> back to center over the chosen cog. 
>
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 4:10:24 PM UTC-8 Drw wrote:
>
>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>
>> *Components:*
>> Rivendell Platypus 
>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>
>>
>> *Specific symptoms:*
>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>> Drew. LA
>>
>

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[RBW] WTT: My Polished Edelux II for your Black Edelux II

[Collin A]

Howdy Riv Folks,

I thought I could handle the visual wart that is a silver headlight on an 
all black bike built up during the pandemic (and before WWIII?) when I just 
got parts that I could find, but that is no longer the case! Instead, my 
vanity has taken hold!

But yeah, title says it, if you have a black one and instead want a 
polished let me know. The cable length is 80 to 90 cm (currently still 
attached to the bike) and has the plugs for a son hub and has been in use 
for about a year at this point. Ideally your light has a similar length 
cable attached.

Thanks All!
Collin in Sacramento

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[RBW] Re: New Nitto x Blue Lug Power Stem

[Collin A]

While cool and useful, I think Nitto/others need to figure out a better 
method for welding/brazing the threaded portions of the stem face plate. 
Currently (sample size of 3 for me), each stem and set of threaded sections 
are all slightly different, meaning that if for some reason the faceplate 
gets damaged or lost, you can't just get another face plate and be 
guaranteed that it works on your stem.

Has anyone else noticed this or is it just my bad luck?

Collin in Sactown

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 5:15:52 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Seems to me this group would go just plain bananas for this new stem!
>
> 25.4 clamp with a 4-bolt plate
>
> Nitto Power Stem 
> <https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-fw30-power-stem-dull.html>. Two models 
> with different rises, FW30 and FW33. Silver and black. 
>
> [image: IMG_3951.jpg][image: IMG_8699.jpg]
> [image: 9509351F-ECA4-46BC-B163-EF1580DF7A48-900x600.jpg][image: 
> IMG_8709.jpg]
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-26 at 8.15.08 PM.png]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Collin A]

I mean if it actually comes with the Paul brakes instead of what we think
of "silver brakes" (r559s) it might be a good deal!

Collin in Sactown

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 5:20 PM John G.  wrote:

> I think this was posted right after the 58 cm Homers sold out at Riv.
> Pretty frustrating, though I'm glad the Homer seems to be selling well. I
> posted elsewhere, but my new Homer is just stunning to ride and gaze upon.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm officially sick of the Rivendell price gougers. There was some
>> sense to it at the height of the pandemic bike boom/supply shortage, but
>> it's just rude now.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:29 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for
>>> cheaper.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I forgot the link:
>>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
>>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
>>>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke,
>>>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the
>>>>>> call. Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always 
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> just a little too tall for me. Fun bike though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller,
>>>>>>> who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
>>>>>>> cash-only
>>>>>>> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>>>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am so shocked that's still available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously,
>>>>>>>>>> seriously tempted to inquire about that Glorius.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about
>>>>>>>>>>> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>>>>>>>>>

[RBW] Re: Bike route Pt Reyes area?

[Collin A]

If you want to view the coast, a ride from Laguna Trailhead on the West 
side of the peninsula to Coast campground is nice and flat, with some 
gorgeous views and a great spot for a picnic while fully avoiding cars:

A bit more of a drive though...

Collin in Sactown

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 12:40:23 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Short notice but I am looking to take the family riding in the Point Reyes 
> area tomorrow. Anyone have a nice trail to recommend? The kids sketch out 
> on anything too technical but dirt/gravel/having to walk occasionally is 
> fine. Trying to avoid the road as much as possible. Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 63cm Roadeo (at Westminster, MD Bike Swap 2/13)

[Collin A]

Dang, if only it was 10cm smaller...

Collin, forever short, in Sacramento

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:53:29 PM UTC-8 Austin B. wrote:

> @Patrick,
>
> It's the curse of the gangly-large frames--there just aren't that many 
> riders out there that can fit a 63cm frame. Basic supply & demand, right? 
> It does have one key blemish--the pointy lug that points up the seatpost 
> was bent in transport (boxed so they removed the seatpost). it couldn't be 
> bent back and accept a seatpost, so cut, filed, and touch-up paint. Never 
> bothered me.
>
> Ok, the buildI had some different parts on it for the last couple 
> years, but am making it more Rivish for sale using many of the parts that 
> came on it when I acquired it.
>
>
>- Velocity A23 with 28mm Gatorskins
>- VO Grand Cru Brakes (SO much better than Tektros)
>- 105 FD, RD and Crankset
>- 9-Speed cassette (11-30)
>- Shimano barends
>- Nitto Dynamic Seatpost with a Brooks B17
>- 44cm Noodle Handlebars, IRD levers, 9cm Nitto Tallux stem
>- VO Platform Pedals
>
> I think that's it. 
>
> And yes, they are expensive. I'll pour myself a nice, expensive glass of 
> scotch the day they get off my auto insurance policy.
>
> Austin
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:28:08 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh: Entire bike $1K below frame list; what's the catch? (Not a 
>> complaint, I'm saying it's so wonderful it's hard to believe!) If it were a 
>> 58 it would be hard for me to restrain myself.
>>
>> Please describe the build, tires included.
>>
>> And congrats on the HS grad. Be warned: They are expensive in high 
>> school, they are much more expensive in college.
>>
>> Patrick "only 1 child, but she's expensive!" Moore
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 6:18 PM Austin B.  wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> Doing some downsizing as my youngest is graduating HS in a couple 
>>> months. I'll be taking my 63cm Roadeo to the Stop, Swap, and Save 
>>> <http://www.stopswapandsave.com/> event in Westminster, MD this Sunday 
>>> 2/13. $1800 asking price. If it doesn't sell there I will be posting it 
>>> here afterwards. Pic below.
>>>
>>> Also might take my 63cm Bridgestone RB-1 (1989) to the swap meet if i 
>>> can convince myself to let go of it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Austin B. 
>>> Sykesville, MD
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9862.JPG]
>>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Collin A]

You can, but Riv recently initiated a 10% "restocking fee" to discourage 
that. That was back in August, so not sure that is still the case.

Collin in Sactown

On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:32:56 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hadn’t even thought of canceling my order… I guess it wouldn’t be putting 
> them out since it would sell quickly. Hmmm. Guess I’d have to be sure I 
> could cancel it!
>
> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>
>> I was really tempted to make you an offer, but wasn't positive I would 
>> land a Gus! Let me know if you want to cancel your order and take this 
>> lovely orange bike instead.  :) 
>>
>> To answer a couple of questions that have come through: 
>>
>>- I have an 87.5 PBH.  My saddle height is 75-76cm.  My legs are long 
>>for my height, so I've been running this with a 30mm extension Discord 
>> stem 
>>and a Tumbleweed Persuader bar.  I initially set it up with a 50mm stem 
>> and 
>>a Jones bar with more backsweep (shown in the photos).  The reach was 
>> great 
>>in both configurations.  I tried a Bosco but prefer less angle for 
>> off-road 
>>riding and tried my nitto bullmoose, but didn't like the forward 
>> extension. 
>>   
>>- I do have other components available, but no brakes or cranksets at 
>>this time.  I have a variety of 9-speed cassettes, some good derailleurs, 
>>and SunRace thumbshifters. Happy to send along details. 
>>
>> I'm going to be posting this on Craiglist later today, but wanted to give 
>> the list members the first shot at it!  Let me know if you are interested. 
>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 6:59:12 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’d have jumped on this if it was listed before the pre sale! Haha. I’m 
>>> sure it won’t last long. Good luck with the Gus!
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m putting my glorious Susie up for sale.  I have loved riding this 
>>>> bike, but as someone at the top end of the suggested Susie weight range, I 
>>>> have decided to move up to a Gus so that I can add racks and load the 
>>>> thing 
>>>> up for more adventuring with a little more peace of mind.  I was able to 
>>>> secure a large Gus (in mermaid!) in the presale this week, so I’m going to 
>>>> pass this incredible bike along to a new owner.  The bike is in great 
>>>> shape.  I am the second owner, but it was lovingly maintained by me and 
>>>> the 
>>>> previous owner.  It has been ridden and had racks installed, so it has a 
>>>> couple of nicks and rubbed spots in the paint from bags (shown in the 
>>>> photos), but no crashes, no dents, no problems.  
>>>>
>>>> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZpww77TLQqSb1md8
>>>>
>>>> I’m offering three options on this sale: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- *Option 1*: Frame / Fork / Headset / Bottom Bracket for $1650
>>>>- *Option 2*: All of the above plus all of the following for $2100
>>>>
>>>> -Cliffhanger / Shimano LX Wheelset (32h/700c), used and in 
>>>> great shape - $350
>>>> -Vittoria __ 29x2.1 tires, new, but have been 
>>>> mounted - $50
>>>> -Riv seatpost - $0
>>>> -Discord W(Right) Stem, 50mm 31.8 clamp - $125
>>>>-Jones H-Bar Bend, lightly used - $50
>>>>
>>>>- *Option 3*: F/F/H/BB plus any of the components listed above at 
>>>>$1650 plus the price listed next to each component.  
>>>>
>>>> I’m in the SF Bay Area and would prefer a local-ish sale but am willing 
>>>> to discuss shipping.  Shipping is an additional cost to the prices listed 
>>>> above.   The parts are not currently for sale separately, but I’m happy to 
>>>> sell those after I’ve completed the bike transaction, so let me know if 
>>>> you 
>>>> are interested.  
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to message me directly with inquiries! 
>>>>
>>>> Erik 
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Collin A]

In terms of dealing with rear light routing, I've used this stuff with good 
aesthetic results when taping it under the top tube:
Shimano Di2 SM-Ecwc2 E-Tube Cover Set | Jenson USA 
<https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-Di2-SM-ECWC2-E-Tube-Cover-Set>

Then I just twirl on one of the seat stays until it reaches it's 
destination. It works best when all of the connections are happening at the 
headlight.

Collin in Sactown

On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Sean,
> I have an older B taillight powered by an older SONdelux (before the 
> Wide-Body) hub, and it's plenty bright, and a Compass/Rene Herse taillight 
> running from a newer Wide-Body. Also decently bright. I can't imagine SON's 
> own taillights would be anything but reasonably bright.
>
> I too am curious, Mathieu, to know the details of the troubles with 
> dynamo taillights reported by RBW and your LBS have. I wonder if some of 
> the troubles have to do with wiring, which, in the absence of 
> accommodations on or in the frame, must be zip-tied to, handlebar-taped to, 
> or wrapped around the frame to reach the taillight. It's a mild aesthetic 
> irritation, for me at least. Gets the job done, though, and my 
> zip-tie-enabled system has worked every day and in every weather for nine 
> years.
>
> --
> Bob
>
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:48:32 AM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
>> and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
>> with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
>> using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: NIB Park TS-2 Professional Wheel Truing Stand (chrome) plus WAG-3 dishing tool

[Collin A]

Dangit, I was building a wheel instead of watching the group FS postings!

Oh well...

Collin in Sactown

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:16:27 PM UTC-7 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Step right up! Step right up! Step right up, ladies and germs
>
> If you haven't been using a truing stand, or have been using a so-so 
> stand, and/or have been hankering in any kind of way for a _good_ stand, 
> this is it.
>
> 'nuff said.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 6:01:47 PM UTC-4 Rich Lesnik wrote:
>
>> I'm posting this for a friend. Asking $150 for both, plus $30 shipping. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[Collin A]

Kushan,

Sorry to hear of the laborious grinding on steep-but-not-so-steep climbs 
with your Appaloosa. I have a similar feeling with mine and my theory is 
that it has to do with the extra long chain flexing and stretching more and 
transferring less of your foot force to the rear wheel. But that doesn't 
really answer you question

In regards to having a lower gear for climbing, I feel like at the gear 
ratio you are at (24/36), anything lower would be slower than walking 
(which is when I usually hop off and start walking). Is this something you 
have considered? 

Otherwise, the recommendations for the deraileur dropper would do the 
ticket, though you'd also likely need another chain given the bigger 
cogs...at which point a 10 speed chain would be a good investment (just 
make sure you have enough links, likely 123-ish) and work well with the 9 
speed components on the rest of the bike. I think the sunrace 11-42 
cassettes still come with the derailieur hanger extenders, so it might be 
worth checking them out.

Good luck,
Collin, flatlander in Sacramento

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 11:10:13 AM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> Hi all - 
>
> I acquired a 2021 Appaloosa over the summer and have been using it as my 
> primary bike for the past few months. Despite the generous gearing (38x24 
> in front, 11-36 9-speed in rear), I am finding myself grinding 
> significantly on sustained climbs over 7-8%. Part of this is my weight (250 
> lbs). The hefty tubing and upright bars of the bike contribute as well (my 
> lighter road bikes with similar gearing feel easier on the same climbs). 
>
> To make it a bit easier on my legs, I am contemplating "upgrading" to a 
> wider range cassette in the back. More specifically, I am thinking of 
> trying a 10-speed 11-42 cassette 
> <https://www.amazon.com/SunRace-MS3-10-Speed-11-42T-Cassette/dp/B01JA6UBWQ/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1=10%2Bspeed%2B11-42t%2Bcassette=1633974437=sporting-goods=1-9=1=1>
>  and 
> wanted to get the group's input on whether this is a good idea.
>
>- Will this even work with my current setup? I have Shimano Deore 
>derailer and use Silver2 friction shifters for both front and rear. Based 
>on the recent newsletter from Will on different derailer and cassette 
>combo, I feel like this should work. Attached is the picture of the 
>derailer when I am in the lowest gear both front and back.
>- I currently have 9 speed 11-36 cassette and shifting works great. 
>How will going to 10-speed affect the quality of shifting?
>
>
> Best
> Kushan
>

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[RBW] Smokey Days Riding

[Collin A]

I think Patrick brought this up not too long ago, but looks like there is a 
nice quantifiable map (down to zip code) about how long we have been 
getting dangerous air days in the last couple of years.

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2021/09/28/dangerous-air-as-california-burns-america-breathes-toxic-smoke/

To say it mildly, its pretty depressing for everywhere except the east 
coast it seems, with major jumps in smoke days (close to 200% average 
increase in CA), just a part of the new normal I guess. As an example, we 
had an average of 57 days where its too smokey to ride in Sacramento over 
the last 5 years...that's almost 20% of the year where you really shouldn't 
ride. 

Collin, Its clear today at least, In Sacramento

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought on crankset for Hillborne

[Collin A]

Sort of unrelated, how did the crank arms fail?

Silver Riv Cranks are nice, though...but it also sounds like you've got 
something that already works, so why fix what isn't broken?

Collin, "non-answer" in SAC

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:26:55 PM UTC-7 EricP wrote:

> Am hitting a crossroads with this. For the first few years of owning this 
> bike, used a Shimano Alfine single ring crankset with guard and a 38t ring. 
> Then at some point decided to go with a Sugino in a similar setup. Problem 
> is, have gone through at least 2 non drive side crank arms since then. 
> Obviously user error. And there are no more arms to be found. (The one that 
> Ben's Cycle carries has a spider no matter what the photo shows).
>
> So the question becomes - do I spring for a Silver crankset, swap out the 
> stock 34t for a 36t and ignore a front derailer, or just put the Alfine 
> back on? 
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice you want to give.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Collin A]

54 Ram on KSL (craigslist-like) in Salt Lake City. Owner specified local 
sale only, though...$1600
Rivendell Rambouillet steel commuter, t… | Cycling | ksl.com 
<https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/64161655>

Collin, in SLC for the week
On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:34:28 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platypus
> 60cm
> $1650
> Highland Park, LA, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-platypus-60cm/7381224285.html
>
>
> Joe Appaloosa
> 58cm (no double top tube, looks like a 57, confirm size with owner)
> $2300
> Happy Valley, OR
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/601242284231403

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Question?

[Collin A]

Ben,

Answers below:
1. Mine was not squeaky, but it sounds like it quiets down later.
2. I got used to it eventually, but it helps to have softer things in the 
bag that your thighs can move into (rather than something super hard and 
stiff). Alternatively, having a marks rack (or similar to angle the bag 
slightly away from the seatpost resolves the thigh rub if it really bugs 
you.
3. Like Patrick, I like my connections tight, which is why I replaced all 
of the leather straps with voile nano straps of a bright orange color. I 
used the stock straps for a while and noticed they do stretch a little with 
age, so if you wanna keep the leather, just give it a few weeks of tugging 
and stretching and no new hole would be needed (unless the hole is like 2 
cm too short).

Enjoy the bag, I love my bag boy royal quite a lot and it works super well 
thanks to the boxy shape for groceries, work stuff, camping, etc. But my 
wife stole it so I am currently sackville-less!

Collin in Sactown
On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 5:17:09 PM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello!
> I just received a beautiful royal blue Slimsucker today from Riv 
> and...well...I don't know about it. I have three issues that are making me 
> think about contacting Riv for a return.
>
> 1. It's really squeaky...I'm assuming the brand new leather will soften 
> and chill out a bit and be quiet eventually. Have other people noticed this 
> when their bags are new? I have two x-small bags that I have been using and 
> I can't remember whether they squeaked or not.
>
> 2. I wasn't fully prepared for the thigh rub...I put the bag on my bike, 
> put my computer, a couple books, laptop charger, etc... in it and rode up 
> the block and back and I'm not a fan of that feeling of the bag touching 
> the backs of my thighs. Has anyone else been rubbed the wrong way (sorry) 
> at first but kind of stopped noticing it after a while?
>
> 3. The leather strap to secure it to my seatpostI need the third hole 
> to be *just* a little closer. If I use the second hole, it's not tight 
> and the bag swings front to back. The leather used on these bags is 
> excellent so I know that I could probably punch a new hole in the strap (if 
> I keep the bag), but does anyone have any suggestions that I might not be 
> thinking of? 
>
> This stinks...I do like the bag and I think I could deal with the things 
> that bug me...but part of me wants to reach out and set up a return before 
> I take it on a full ride and get it dirty. Any thoughts the group might 
> have would be most appreciated. 
>
> Thanks,
> Ben 
>

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[RBW] Re: School me on RH tires for my Sam

[Collin A]

Yeah...not really sure why, but there is always some variation, right? They 
are setup tubeless, but just the standard casing.

Luckily I have clearance for 50+mm tires in the frame and fork, so I'm 
doing fine on that end.

Collin "its good" in Sactown

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:50:05 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow Collin, you're getting 41mm on the Barlows?  I get 40mm on the 
> Snoqualmie Pass when mounted on Velocity Dyads and 42mm when mounted on 
> Quills.  The Barlows mounted on Dyads measured 35mm, if I remember 
> correctly.
>
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 9:22:11 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> As the others have mentioned, don't you dare think about going smaller 
>> than 38s. I have RH Barlows (measure closer to 41 on my 21mm ID rims) on my 
>> 'gravel' ritchey, but I use the bike as my road bike as well and those 
>> tires are just perfect for road riding and mixed terrain, provided it isn't 
>> too dusty and loose where you are. Also, RH actually posts tire size based 
>> on pressure and rim ID on their notes for the tires on their product pages, 
>> so you can use that as a reference for fit as well.
>>
>> And agreed on the choice of standard casing, they work well enough and 
>> are noticeably (although not much) cheaper than the EL versions.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Collin, in Chattery Paved Sacramento
>>
>> On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 4:08:06 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All, I'm thinking about treating my Sam Hillborne to a new set of 
>>> shoes. I'm currently riding smooth Gravel King's in a 38mm. These are set 
>>> up tubeless and I run them at around 38 to 40 psi. I've been very happy 
>>> with these tires and find that the 38mm GK's ride great. 
>>>
>>> My Sam is circa 2016 with side pull brakes. I am currently using Paul 
>>> Racers. I could probably fit a larger tire than a 38mm but don't feel the 
>>> need to. 
>>>
>>> I want to try a new set of RH/Compass tires which will also be tubeless. 
>>> I could just get the Barlow Pass but I am curious about the Bon Jon Pass. I 
>>> am mostly interested to see how a slight smaller 35mm would compare to a 
>>> 38. 
>>>
>>> I was going to get the standard casing because I am prefer to put a 
>>> premium on durability over the ultimate suppleness. 
>>>
>>> Should I continue to take advantage of the tire clearance I current 
>>> enjoy and keep riding a 38mm or should I try satisfy my curiosity by trying 
>>> the 35mm's?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: School me on RH tires for my Sam

[Collin A]

Tim,

As the others have mentioned, don't you dare think about going smaller than 
38s. I have RH Barlows (measure closer to 41 on my 21mm ID rims) on my 
'gravel' ritchey, but I use the bike as my road bike as well and those 
tires are just perfect for road riding and mixed terrain, provided it isn't 
too dusty and loose where you are. Also, RH actually posts tire size based 
on pressure and rim ID on their notes for the tires on their product pages, 
so you can use that as a reference for fit as well.

And agreed on the choice of standard casing, they work well enough and are 
noticeably (although not much) cheaper than the EL versions.

Good Luck,
Collin, in Chattery Paved Sacramento

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 4:08:06 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Hello All, I'm thinking about treating my Sam Hillborne to a new set of 
> shoes. I'm currently riding smooth Gravel King's in a 38mm. These are set 
> up tubeless and I run them at around 38 to 40 psi. I've been very happy 
> with these tires and find that the 38mm GK's ride great. 
>
> My Sam is circa 2016 with side pull brakes. I am currently using Paul 
> Racers. I could probably fit a larger tire than a 38mm but don't feel the 
> need to. 
>
> I want to try a new set of RH/Compass tires which will also be tubeless. I 
> could just get the Barlow Pass but I am curious about the Bon Jon Pass. I 
> am mostly interested to see how a slight smaller 35mm would compare to a 
> 38. 
>
> I was going to get the standard casing because I am prefer to put a 
> premium on durability over the ultimate suppleness. 
>
> Should I continue to take advantage of the tire clearance I current enjoy 
> and keep riding a 38mm or should I try satisfy my curiosity by trying the 
> 35mm's?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Subtle, insidious seatpost slippage on my Clem H driving me crazy

[Collin A]

Another anecdotal point...I tried the S65 in the hopes it would solve the 
slipping problem but it did not. The knurling on the el-cheapo kalloy that 
came with the Clem did, however. 

Collin, "It rained" in Sacramento

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 8:55:57 AM UTC-7 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> So much good info.  Glad I am not alone here.  Gonna reclean the seat tube 
> and apply the Blue Friction Grease again.  Guessing it won't work, so next 
> will be the Coke can method.  Also gonna switch to a Crystal Fellow seat 
> post.
>
>  Thanks again for all the help.
> Alex
> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:30:20 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> If you want max torque to clamp the seatpost use a quick release type 
>> binder bolt. The one Riv sells is the Sunlite stainless steel version, 
>> 6x55mm, not to be confused with the other Sunlite version which just says 
>> steel and comes with steel spacers. 
>>
>> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 9:33:42 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve found that some brands are slightly (not “nominally;” it’s a tiny 
>>> but real difference) bigger than others; eg: Am Classic vs Syncro.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:02 AM, EricP  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am assuming when you say you replaced the bolt, you also replaced the 
>>> nut? I have found that nylock seatpost nuts don't allow me to fully torque 
>>> down on the frame to hold the post.
>>>
>>>
>>> On my Clem, a Kalloy Uno seatpost, in black, seems to not slip as much. 
>>> But my issue is excess body weight, not a poor fit between post and frame. 
>>> In your case, maybe a switch to a 27.0 post would be a better solution.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Eric Platt
>>> St. Paul, MN
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 12:55:21 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>> With the clamp bolt loosened, is the seatpost a good or loose fit in 
>>>> the seat tube? A seatpost should fit in the frame with no perceptible slop 
>>>> before the clamp bolt is tightened. My Appaloosa was nominally supposed to 
>>>> take a 26.8mm seatpost, and a 26.8mm seatpost was supplied with the frame. 
>>>> But the post was, I considered, too loose a fit in the seat tube, so I 
>>>> grabbed a 27.0mm seatpost (a Nitto S65) and did a very small amount of 
>>>> reaming of the seat tube to ensure a perfect fit. It's never slipped in 
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> As a much cheaper alternative, you could cut yourself a shim from a 
>>>> coke can - the aluminium in those is usually around 0.1mm thick - and see 
>>>> if that makes a difference. The metal in those cans is thin enough that it 
>>>> can be cut with a good sharp pair of scissors. You might have to hack the 
>>>> initial hole in the side of the can with something else, but once you can 
>>>> get the scissor blade in there, it should manage the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Subtle, insidious seatpost slippage on my Clem H driving me crazy

[Collin A]

You don't appreciate this 'feature' of the automatic dropper post? ;)

Yup, I had this issue occur on my 2017 Clem H with the 26.8 seatpost.

What worked, was getting the seatpost knurled by Riv (for free, just pay 
for shipping) OR what was later done was getting the seatpost reamed to 
27.0 and using that size seatpost.

Intermediate solutions involved a layer of blue loctite on the upper 1" of 
seatpost insertion but it wasn't a permanent solution.

Good luck,
Collin in Sacramento

On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:40:07 PM UTC-7 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anybody else have issues with their seat post slipping on their Clem H or 
> any other Rivs?  This is driving me crazy.  I am infatuated with this bike. 
>  Favorite ride of all time.  I have a perfect 30 mile SF-Marin Headlands-SF 
> loop that keeps me sane.What is driving me insane however is that my 
> seat post slips down about 1-1.5 inches every time I ride this ride, which 
> involves quite a lot of fire trail.  I have cleaned the inside of the seat 
> tube, I have applied friction grease, I changed the seat bolt and greased 
> and regressed it.  I have heard that maybe a Coke can might work as a shim, 
> but I'd rather resolve the issue without hodging and podging.  Any 
> thoughts?  Advice?  Commiseration?  Thanks all.  I've ridden on a Kalloy 
> and a Thomson seat post, and it doesn't matter which seat post I use, there 
> is slippage.  
> Alex
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Also, your Joe looks great! Is that the top of seaview? I miss those 
views...

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:36:42 AM UTC-7 André P wrote:

> Collin, what's the fender model you have there? Seems like a 
> honjo/simworks but I am unsure on what size.
>
> And to contribute here's my built in 2021, but not actually 2021 model 
> appaloosa.
>
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:12:28 AM UTC-7 Stephen wrote:
>
>> [image: 0.jpg]
>> Jumpin in, been meaning to share a pic since peeping at everyone else's 
>> bikes is maybe my favorite part of this group. Been loving this bike, 
>> recently switched the losco's out for bullmooses, I'll try to take another 
>> updated photo soon.
>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:31:47 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! The cranks are just the Sugino cranks with a rebrand and a 
>>> slightly different inner ring spacing, but I mostly got them for the 165 
>>> length and that they were in stock.
>>>
>>> Regarding fenders, these particular ones are new, but I used to use 2.2" 
>>> tires and the simworks flat65 fenders on the bike and they worked fine (I 
>>> use the berthoud QR clips 
>>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/berthoud-r-clamps/> 
>>> on 
>>> the front and the 20mm clearance recommended by RH, so doubly cautious). 
>>> There has only been one instance where I have felt a little dicey with MTB 
>>> trails and fenders, and that was the cinderella trail 
>>> <https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/4676438/cinderella-trail> in Joaquin 
>>> Miller in Oakland at the steep rock garden.
>>>
>>> The 'MTB' trails around Sacramento are all hard pack dirt/sand with some 
>>> river rock here and there so nothing I am worried about when it comes to 
>>> fenders...and it doesn't get too sticky when it gets wet either. Also less 
>>> debris to get caught up in the fenders too, at this point in the year its 
>>> all ash :(
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:10 AM Kushan  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice set up Colin. Those Stronglight cranks is not something I see very 
>>>> frequently.. How do those metal fenders do on MTB rides? With the recent 
>>>> posts by Jason and Will (one of the newsletters a few weeks ago), I have 
>>>> been wondering if I should take mine off before going to longer trail 
>>>> rides. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:33 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll bite! Here is my 2020 Joe after yet another (two) cockpit 
>>>>> switches and some knobbly tires...it is reverting back to a MTB after 
>>>>> taking an 8 month hiatus for more road and gravel rides:
>>>>> [image: PXL_20210829_204735369.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Collin, in Smokramento
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:29:37 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No new posts on this thread in a while.. I must say - i am starting 
>>>>>> to get jealous of all fun that Leah and other Platty owners having in 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> other corner of this site. C'mon Appa owners - show us your new pride 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> joy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So here is the update on the frame pump situation in case others are 
>>>>>>> in the same boat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I considered getting the clip-on peg and attach it to the seat tube 
>>>>>>> for a solution similar to Mark's Atlantis above. I noticed that I was 
>>>>>>> actually able to fit an HPX4 pretty well without even needing a peg. 
>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>> only problem was that the pump ended up pushing against the front 
>>>>>>> derailer 
>>>>>>> cable (see picture). I could have tried fiddling with the derailer 
>>>>>>> cabling 
>>>>>>> but didn't want to mess up risking a perfecting functional front 
>>>>>>> derailer 
>>>>>>> (it is unlikely I would ever be able to adjust the derailer as smooth 
>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>> the RBW pros). So I ended up forgoing this option.
>>>>>>>
>>>&g

Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Andre, the fenders are the H80 650b XL 
<https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/rene-herse-smooth-fenders-650b-for-48-52-mm-tires-pair-h80-650b-xl/>
 
model, with no dimpling required!

Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 10:36:42 AM UTC-7 André P wrote:

> Collin, what's the fender model you have there? Seems like a 
> honjo/simworks but I am unsure on what size.
>
> And to contribute here's my built in 2021, but not actually 2021 model 
> appaloosa.
>
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:12:28 AM UTC-7 Stephen wrote:
>
>> [image: 0.jpg]
>> Jumpin in, been meaning to share a pic since peeping at everyone else's 
>> bikes is maybe my favorite part of this group. Been loving this bike, 
>> recently switched the losco's out for bullmooses, I'll try to take another 
>> updated photo soon.
>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 12:31:47 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! The cranks are just the Sugino cranks with a rebrand and a 
>>> slightly different inner ring spacing, but I mostly got them for the 165 
>>> length and that they were in stock.
>>>
>>> Regarding fenders, these particular ones are new, but I used to use 2.2" 
>>> tires and the simworks flat65 fenders on the bike and they worked fine (I 
>>> use the berthoud QR clips 
>>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/berthoud-r-clamps/> 
>>> on 
>>> the front and the 20mm clearance recommended by RH, so doubly cautious). 
>>> There has only been one instance where I have felt a little dicey with MTB 
>>> trails and fenders, and that was the cinderella trail 
>>> <https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/4676438/cinderella-trail> in Joaquin 
>>> Miller in Oakland at the steep rock garden.
>>>
>>> The 'MTB' trails around Sacramento are all hard pack dirt/sand with some 
>>> river rock here and there so nothing I am worried about when it comes to 
>>> fenders...and it doesn't get too sticky when it gets wet either. Also less 
>>> debris to get caught up in the fenders too, at this point in the year its 
>>> all ash :(
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:10 AM Kushan  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice set up Colin. Those Stronglight cranks is not something I see very 
>>>> frequently.. How do those metal fenders do on MTB rides? With the recent 
>>>> posts by Jason and Will (one of the newsletters a few weeks ago), I have 
>>>> been wondering if I should take mine off before going to longer trail 
>>>> rides. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:33 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll bite! Here is my 2020 Joe after yet another (two) cockpit 
>>>>> switches and some knobbly tires...it is reverting back to a MTB after 
>>>>> taking an 8 month hiatus for more road and gravel rides:
>>>>> [image: PXL_20210829_204735369.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Collin, in Smokramento
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:29:37 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No new posts on this thread in a while.. I must say - i am starting 
>>>>>> to get jealous of all fun that Leah and other Platty owners having in 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> other corner of this site. C'mon Appa owners - show us your new pride 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> joy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So here is the update on the frame pump situation in case others are 
>>>>>>> in the same boat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I considered getting the clip-on peg and attach it to the seat tube 
>>>>>>> for a solution similar to Mark's Atlantis above. I noticed that I was 
>>>>>>> actually able to fit an HPX4 pretty well without even needing a peg. 
>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>> only problem was that the pump ended up pushing against the front 
>>>>>>> derailer 
>>>>>>> cable (see picture). I could have tried fiddling with the derailer 
>>>>>>> cabling 
>>>>>>> but didn't want to mess up risking a perfecting functional front 
>>>>>>> derailer 
>>>>>>> (it is unlikely I would ever be able to adjust the derailer as smooth 
>

[RBW] Re: What made you a bikey?

[Collin A]

Oh, this'll be a fun one!

I was 'made' a bikey by a combination of things. It was mostly my time as 
an undergrad at UC Davis in a town that appreciated and supported bicycles 
as a major mode of transportation that showed it was possible to live a car 
free life.

The other was dating a girl on the triathlon team and I wanted to spend 
more time with her, so I used my Dad's 1986 Trek 520 (that was my commuter) 
to go on rides with her. That was when the (metaphorical) bug bit when 
doing fun, but fast-ish rides to the nearby brewery on scenic country roads 
with good people.

Collin, back in Sacramento

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:48:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Will has an interesting post in the the recent Riv Newsletter about how he 
> and some friends first noticed bikes and got into them. After your initial 
> foray as a kid with a bike, what was the thing that made you notice them 
> later and turn you into an adult-person-cyclist? 
>
> Mine is similar to Will's as a young man in Los Angeles, except it was the 
> flashy riders in "tight clothes" I picked up on. I vividly recall being 
> stopped on Pacific Coast Highway somewhere south of Long Beach (probably on 
> a motorcycle) and watching all the roadies go by, this would be early '80s. 
> This one guy went by on a green (actually celeste blue, but I didn't know 
> that at the time) Bianchi with matching bar tape and riding gear. That was 
> the moment I - a car and motorcycle nut - realized bicycles were a thing, 
> too. A very cool thing, and you got a workout in the process! 
>
> I was hooked, what hooked you? 
>
> Joe Bernard
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Thanks! The cranks are just the Sugino cranks with a rebrand and a slightly
different inner ring spacing, but I mostly got them for the 165 length and
that they were in stock.

Regarding fenders, these particular ones are new, but I used to use 2.2"
tires and the simworks flat65 fenders on the bike and they worked fine (I
use the berthoud QR clips
<https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/berthoud-r-clamps/> on
the front and the 20mm clearance recommended by RH, so doubly cautious).
There has only been one instance where I have felt a little dicey with MTB
trails and fenders, and that was the cinderella trail
<https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/4676438/cinderella-trail> in Joaquin
Miller in Oakland at the steep rock garden.

The 'MTB' trails around Sacramento are all hard pack dirt/sand with some
river rock here and there so nothing I am worried about when it comes to
fenders...and it doesn't get too sticky when it gets wet either. Also less
debris to get caught up in the fenders too, at this point in the year its
all ash :(

Cheers,
Collin in Sactown

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:10 AM Kushan  wrote:

> Nice set up Colin. Those Stronglight cranks is not something I see very
> frequently.. How do those metal fenders do on MTB rides? With the recent
> posts by Jason and Will (one of the newsletters a few weeks ago), I have
> been wondering if I should take mine off before going to longer trail
> rides.
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:33 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> I'll bite! Here is my 2020 Joe after yet another (two) cockpit switches
>> and some knobbly tires...it is reverting back to a MTB after taking an 8
>> month hiatus for more road and gravel rides:
>> [image: PXL_20210829_204735369.jpg]
>>
>> Collin, in Smokramento
>>
>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 10:29:37 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> No new posts on this thread in a while.. I must say - i am starting to
>>> get jealous of all fun that Leah and other Platty owners having in the
>>> other corner of this site. C'mon Appa owners - show us your new pride and
>>> joy!
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>
>>>> So here is the update on the frame pump situation in case others are in
>>>> the same boat.
>>>>
>>>> I considered getting the clip-on peg and attach it to the seat tube for
>>>> a solution similar to Mark's Atlantis above. I noticed that I was actually
>>>> able to fit an HPX4 pretty well without even needing a peg. The only
>>>> problem was that the pump ended up pushing against the front derailer cable
>>>> (see picture). I could have tried fiddling with the derailer cabling but
>>>> didn't want to mess up risking a perfecting functional front derailer (it
>>>> is unlikely I would ever be able to adjust the derailer as smooth as the
>>>> RBW pros). So I ended up forgoing this option.
>>>>
>>>> Eric's suggestion of adding extra washers to the pump was promising but
>>>> the issue was that HPX pumps are not designed to be dissembled in the area
>>>> where the washer would go. At this point, I had pretty much given up and
>>>> had started mentally justifying the insanely expensive but longer
>>>> alternative from Silca. But then in a moment of pedal-powered inspiration,
>>>> I came up with the idea of using twine to replicate what the extra washers
>>>> would have accomplished. The result is a perfectly fitting pump at the cost
>>>> of few inches of twine (and a minor loss in pump stroke volume).
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:41:53 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For Kushan and anyone else : confirming those pump pegs fit fine on
>>>>> the seat tube, top tube, and tubes with similar dimensions. I wanted to 
>>>>> use
>>>>> it for the seat stays on my Sam but obviously that didn't work out.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:18:07 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Mark. I am goign to play around with this a bit. My concern
>>>>>> with mounting along seat tube is that the gap between the seat stay is
>>>>>> pretty wide. While the peg will support the pump near the crank, there
>>>>>> won't be any support on seat collar end. Will try it out and report the
>>>>>> findings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com
>>>>>>

[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[Collin A]

Gosh darnit, this would fit and would be perfect for Sacramento...but not 
in the cards right now with my partner starting grad school.

Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 6:00:54 PM UTC-7 ryan.merri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Somebody needs to buy this!  The Frank Jones Sr. is a wonderful single 
> speed bike and I'm extremely glad I bought Joe's a year or so ago...well, 
> it was during the pandemic anyway. I'm always happy while riding that bike.
>
> Good luck with the sale!
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 1:03:41 PM UTC-5 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
>> pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>
>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and 
>> a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 
>> rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>
>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>
>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>
>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>
>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>> this color and size.
>>
>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Tumbleweed Rack on 26" fork -- Hunqapilllar?

[Collin A]

Just keep in mind you'd have to bend the rack to fit the 100mm+ dropouts 
rather than the 135mm+ drop outs in the rear.

Collin in, its smoky again, Sacramento

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-7 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I emailed Daniel that same question and this was his response: 
>
> "You should have no problem with clearance above your tire, but there’s 
> no real downside to having the rack that’s a little tall other than 
> aesthetics. The difference between the two rack sizes is only about an 
> inch, we mainly do the two sizes to accommodate bikes with big wheels and 
> low rack mounts where there might be clearance issues with the tire. "
>
> Regarding the says, I trimmed mine and it looks great. 
>
> Josh in NYC
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 12:52 PM Ginz  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone tried to fit the Tumbleweed T-Rack or Pannier Rack (355mm deck 
>> height?) on a Hunqapillar or similar 26" fork using the bosses on top of 
>> the fork crown?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that would work.  Some bending of the rack stays might 
>> be required by I can't tell if the stays' mounting block would be at the 
>> right height.
>>
>> I have a Nitto 32F on there but might try something new.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Eric
>>
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[RBW] Re: Long distance tour

[Collin A]

That sounds like quite a treat...

It'd depend on how the bikes are setup, weight distributed, etc. but 
probably the homer for the following reasons:

   - Mostly road and I am a light person, so I'd fall under the recommended 
   weight limits
   - The mental aspect that I am taking a *slightly lighter* bike
   - Whichever bike has drops and wide slick tires (I realize this can be 
   both)
   - It feels like a more Italian countryside appropriate bike than the Joe 
   (less tubes, traditional angles, etc.)

But again, whichever is better setup for the type of riding you described 
would be the one to go with. As everyone here knows, you can make each one 
the bikes feel very different or very similar based on wheels, tires, 
cockpit, etc.

Collin, smoky with jealousy, in Sacramento

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 7:36:46 PM UTC-7 Friend wrote:

> If ya'll were to pack up your bike, travel with it to Italy, and do a bike 
> tour trip there, would you take a double-top-tube Appaloosa or a Homer 
> Hilsen.  It would mostly be paved roads, some gravel, and packed for full 
> camping (stove, tent, sleeping bag, etc...)  Why??

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Adam,

Welcome to the cult (err, google group)! If you are lucky, you will end up 
tinkering on the bike constantly and this decision on whether to go 2x10 or 
3x9, etc. will be an inconsequential one. Honestly, i'm surprised there are 
enough parts out there to make that decision!

But in regards to gearing, a 2x system on a triple crank does let you put 
on a chainguard which helps with the 'go anywhere' style of bike it sounds 
like you are trying to achieve and increased utility (like wearing pants to 
work!).

Friction is fun, and the silver2 shifters are pretty dang good at it (and 
easy to switch from thumbies to bar ends if you have the mounts for it). I 
currently have a full drop bar cockpit sitting in my closet that can be 
switched over to my Joe if I once again decide that uprights aren't for 
me...but the point is, I can switch between the 2 without much hassle 
thanks to the silver2s.

Either way, best to make a decision soon so you can ride the bike sooner 
rather than later! There are no 'wrong' decisions to be made here...

Collin in Sacramento

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 7:27:41 AM UTC-7 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, I'm new around here. I've been lurking ever since I managed to 
> snag a 60cm orange Appaloosa frame from Rivendell back in June, which was 
> somewhat of a pandemic impulse purchase. I've wanted a Rivendell for years, 
> but had no real intention of buying a bike this year...until I saw the 
> email from Riv. I'm beyond thrilled and so excited to finally own a 
> Rivendell!
>
> So now Riv is waiting for me to make up my mind on components so they can 
> build it for me. I might be overthinking things a bit. Help!
>
> I'm stuck on what gearing and shifting to go with... 
>
> Since I have a 1x11 on my 29er+ and I have 3x9 gearing on my roadie bike, 
> I was leaning towards 2x10 on this one to try something new and it seems to 
> give me the about right range for this "I'm not sure where I'm gonna ride 
> this bike exactly, probably here, probably there, maybe over there" bike. I 
> live in the Catskills, NY, so there's definitely lotsa hills, plenty of 
> country back roads, some gravel and dirt roads for sure, trails too. I 
> might take her bike camping, why not. Or maybe classic 3x9 gearing for the 
> widest range possible and I'm so undecided. I'm happy to go with the Silver 
> brand cranks, but do I need a chain guard. Ooh, those White Industries 
> cranks are beautiful, but I don't need that. But maybe I do?
>
> I've never tried friction shifting, so I wanna try it out. Was leaning 
> towards just going with the Silver bar-end shifters and call it a day. Oh, 
> but the Dura ace bar-end shifters provide both indexed and friction, at 
> least for the 9sp shifters. Indexed only for the 10sp shifters, I think. 
> That could be a way to try out friction, but have indexed mode if it ain't 
> for me.
>
> All else is decided, just hemming and hawing over these two last details.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Take care, and happy to have found this forum!
>
> Adam
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
>> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is 
>> that a 56 or 53?
>>
>> JS
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kushan,
>>>
>>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on 
>>> your bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works 
>>> great (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). 
>>> I've got an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>>> interested. Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>>
>>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
>>>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short 
>>>> for 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my 

[RBW] Re: FS: Billie Bars 58cm Nitto Al

[Collin A]

Are these ones that have the slightly undersized OD on the grip section?

Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 11:48:30 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> 58cm aluminum Nitto Billie Bars.
> In excellent condition.
> $75, plus shipping in the US of A.
> Local pickup: San Francisco east bay area.
>
> I bought them from Kai, but they're not quite right for me, so back on 
> sale they go!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Faceplater failure--anyone else?

[Collin A]

Regarding issues, I have not had any with mine (though I am a small guy 
with not way-back bars like boscos). I tend to keep the M5 bolt torque to 5 
nm (got a little preset torque wrench from my local Trek store that just 
has piles of the things) and that tends to keep things from slipping. For 
reference, Paul Components has a video somewhere on the internet about 
torquing faceplates down and why even they keep it low.

Regarding replacement of a bent faceplate, you are likely SOL. From what I 
can tell (sample size of 2), each one of the stems is slightly unique in 
that the bolt placements are all slightly different and so no 2 faceplates 
are the same when it comes to where the bolts slide in.

Have you examined the bar clamp area? Any damage to that or just the stem?

Also, you mention using loscos but the 31.8 faceplater stem...are you using 
shims? That might contribute to additional slippage despite high bolt 
torque.

Riv still has some choco-moose bars on their website...they seem to be 
pretty similar shape (though not identical) to the loscos.

Collin in Sactown



On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:35:22 PM UTC-7 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> I recently bought a tosco to use with a faceplater stem because the losco 
> I was trying out didn't agree with me.  I like the wider, more flared tosco 
> a lot.  Anyway,  In a test ride of the new setup, the bar was slipping.  I 
> torqued the bolts down, probably too much, because I noticed in doing so 
> that the faceplate now seems to be bent.  In removing the faceplate, one of 
> the bolts sheeted off and is stuck in the stem.  
>
> I can get the bolt out, but I'm not sure what to do with the bent 
> faceplate.  Anyone else have this issue? Anyone know if Riv has 
> replacements? 
>
> For what it's worth, I bought the 31.8 bar and stem because I was worried 
> about slippage.  I'm a big guy and that's lots of leverage, but honestly I 
> expected better from Nitto.
>
>   I replaced the faceplater  with a slightly shorter 2 bolt removable 
> faceplate stem from Velo Orange, which has larger diameter bolts to attach 
> the faceplate, and didn't experience any slipping. However, the VO stem us 
> a little shorter than I'd like, and I really hate to think I'm just out a 
> nice looking stem because of the bent faceplate.
>
>  Brett in PDX 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rapid rise polarizing

[Collin A]

I'd imagine everyone's experience is slightly different...but I quite like 
my RR XTR RD mounted on my appaloosa to bar end silver2 shifters. I got a 
used one on ebay in the before times for a fair price and with a replaced 
set of jockey/pulley wheels its been fine for about 1000 km.

I've only been friction/bar end shifting for about 5 years now, so I don't 
have decades of muscle memory to rewrite, but it is quite intuitive to 
me...at least it is when you also have a FD, so to go up a gear the bar 
ends get pushed in the same direction.

I've also noticed its a wee bit easier to shift down under a bit of load 
and the derailleur tends to land better (i.e. less precision needed in the 
shift) in those events. But that's all perception and cannot be quantified, 
so take it with a grain of salt. 

Cheers, 
Collin, its only 90 today, in Sacramento

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so polarizing. 
> Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet sources. 
> Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but also great 
> concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights? 
>
> Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Ride Quality Difference between the Atlantis and Clem H?

[Collin A]

I think the ride quality difference will come down to fit, and style of 
setup (i.e. light wheels and supple tires vs. durable wheels and touring 
tires), with the primary difference being driven by whichever bike fits you 
best. 

Unfortunately, the Clems have only 3 sizes, and that will tend to limit how 
good the fit can get without major compromises if you don't perfectly line 
up. This was (one reason) why I switched from a Clem to an Appaloosa, I 
needed like a 50.5 2017 clem to fit correctly and the 51 Joe was a perfect 
size.

Collin, former clem owner, in Sacramento

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 3:04:14 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't agree. I've owned both and the MIT Atlantis is perceptably lighter 
> and zippier. Is it a massive difference? No, I don't think that question 
> was being asked. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:00 PM UTC-7 Gill wrote:
>
>> Expectancy bias should perhaps be factored into the equation. The 
>> Atlantis is a fancier more expensive bike and that fact can’t help but 
>> influence perceptions. As someone who has had both bikes I would contend 
>> that if you rode them both blindfolded (admittedly a dicey undertaking) 
>> you’d be happy with either and hard pressed to tell the difference. 
>>
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 10:33:34 AM UTC-4 max.c@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I am a wannabe Riv owner. One day, when the mood of my wife and 
>>> bank account align...at least that's my hope. 
>>>
>>> I browse a lot of used listings and sometimes will see a deal pop up 
>>> that I'm interested in, but feel like I don't have enough info to 
>>> confidently purchase. Looking for some insight especially from those who 
>>> have ridden multiple Riv models.
>>>
>>> I have a special nostalgia for the Rivendell Atlantis -- the color, the 
>>> geometry; it just seems like my dream bike and I don't have a 
>>> justification. The price is steep, though. I have been curious what the 
>>> difference in ride quality is when compared with the Clem H, as that's more 
>>> in my price range and I see used ones come up for sale much more 
>>> frequently. Obviously it's a different look and I'm missing lugs, etc, but 
>>> it does have those crazy long stays. What's the difference in ride quality? 
>>> Especially if I'm riding upright.
>>>
>>> A couple of notes: I live in very flat Dallas, I primarily use my bike 
>>> as a commuter (towing my HappiSack) with a 10 mile radius but would also 
>>> like to do some light touring. My preferred set up is riding upright.
>>>
>>> If anyone else would care to weigh in with a comparison between the ride 
>>> quality of the Atlantis and other Riv models, I'd be interested in those 
>>> too! Just trying to arm myself with information in a market where I often 
>>> am shopping online and unable to try before I buy.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Max
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

[Collin A]

As others mentioned, get both.

Currently I have a Ritchey Outback that is setup very sportily (narrow 
drops, 40mm tires, 450mm chainstays) and a Joe Appaloosa that is slowly 
becoming more bikepacking-friendly and trail oriented (wide drops, 50mm 
knobby  tires, dynamo) after serving time as my road rambler (I still like 
wide drops over uprights, or I should say my 30 yr old body is OK with it 
for now).

My only point to add is that its a lot easier to run a smaller tire on a 
frame with big clearances than a bigger tire on a frame with tighter 
clearances, especially when the BB drop is the same. If you want to 
experiment in more dirt road/off road riding, the Joe would be your ticket.

Collin, cooler than PDX, in Sacramento

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:30:58 PM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> So here's the situation. I've got a super hot lead on an orange 51 
> Appaloosa, but I'm already deep in it with a sage 51 canti Sam. Initially, 
> when I was looking at these bikes, I was torn between the two. I ultimately 
> leaned Sam because at the time I liked the colour and it was more 
> available. Well, things change I guess! I'm more seriously entertaining a 
> move to the Appaloosa because:
>
>- Sweet long chainstays
>- Can carry more (?? Is this true??)
>- Will likely work better for me with upright bars (Sam felt too 
>cramped for me with Albas)
>- Better tire clearance for fattish knubblies or fatter tires + 
>fenderage
>
> What I would love to do here is tap the forum's collective wisdom to see 
> if the grass is really greener. Has anyone made the move from Sam to 
> Appaloosa, or vice versa? What were your feelings? What did you miss on the 
> old bike when you made the move? What did you love about the new bike that 
> the old bike couldn't live up to?
>
> I'm approaching this a bit more cautiously since I already regret selling 
> another Riv I owned (Roadini - my regret is well documented, I believe). 
> That said, I imagine I'll need to act fast to get the bike before someone 
> snags it. In a perfect world I'd keep both, but we all know the world isn't 
> perfect, and I do have to live within the very real constraints imposed 
> upon me by my lovely partner who for some reason isn't cool with me having 
> umpteen bikes.
>
> Anyways, enough of my incessant rambling. Thank you for reading and 
> helping to encourage my hobby of buying bikes then selling then replacing 
> then modifying then selling then replacing then buying then crying then 
> selling then complaining then... (and so on and so forth). 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Looks like I'm going to have to swing by and see it in person!

P.S. Dynamo all the way.

Collin, melting away, In Sacramento

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 11:04:53 PM UTC-7 bicycler...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Kushan, I made off with a 54cm Mermaid and will be building it as a long 
> distance, mostly paved touring rig. It’ll have big puffy tires, a heaving 
> saddle bag, a legendary range of gears, and am trying to talk myself into 
> or out of dynamo lighting. 
> Built the rear wheel tonight, will have the front wheel built once I make 
> up my mind regarding the dynamo. Hoping to have it road ready before the 
> weekend is over! 
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:00 PM Kushan  wrote:
>
>> For the folks who managed to get an Appaloosa yesterday (or through the 
>> dealers earlier), what type of build ideas are you thinking of? I got a 60 
>> cm Mermaid and planning to have it built as an all-rounder with 80-90% 
>> pavement usage.
>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 2:56:25 PM UTC-7 Andrew Stevens wrote:
>>
>>> We have a 51 and a 57 at Eastside Pedal Pushers in Austin, in the orange
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> My size sold out in 3 minutes across both color options, which is the 
>>>> number I'm naturally most alarmed by! 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:25 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Roberta. Nearly sold out in 30 minutes! 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 2:23:30 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric, is that 3:30 eastern time, which means they nearly sold out in 
>>>>>> 30 minutes???  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 3:34:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By 3:30 only 46cm in orange and 60cm in mermaid. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's another wild one for the books!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 3:18:28 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Despite the short thread here this sale seems to have been every 
>>>>>>>> bit as nuts as the Platypus release. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3:03 
>>>>>>>> Orange: all frames sold out except for 46cm
>>>>>>>> Mermaid: 51cm sold out 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3:06
>>>>>>>> Mermaid: 57cm sold out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3:10
>>>>>>>> Mermaid: 46cm sold out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3:14
>>>>>>>> Mermaid: 54cm sold out 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3:16
>>>>>>>> Mermaid: 54cm available again?
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 12:15:15 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks to (still not sure if i'm happy about it) this thread, I 
>>>>>>>>> snagged a 51 in mermaid from Maine Bike Works. As much as I wanted 
>>>>>>>>> one I 
>>>>>>>>> wasn't going to get my hopes up from RBW, but regardless i'm excited 
>>>>>>>>> to see 
>>>>>>>>> how quick things move tomorrow. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately don't think i'm in a rush to build this one, 
>>>>>>>>> financially but also i'm not sure i could get a set of wheels for it 
>>>>>>>>> if i 
>>>>>>>>> tried, at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:46:41 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Made it to Vermont and back. Glad to have an Appaloosa again. Did 
>>>>>>>>>> not get to do much riding; our site was about 1000' above the main 
>>>>>>>>>> road 3 
>>>>>>>>>> miles below. Daunting climbs to begin with, and impossible with 2 
>>>>>>>>>> small 
>>>>>>>>>> children. Next time I'll plan better. I was perfectly content laying 
>>>>>>>>>> around 
>>>&

[RBW] WTB: Rivendell or BOBish bike for 84pbh

[Collin Massey]

Hi there. I'm in the market for a Rivendell but keeping up with the
different sizes from past years is really confusing. I'm 6'1 with a
well-checked pubic bone height of 84cm.

Have anything? See anything?

Collin Massey
Albuquerque, New Mexico

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Re: [RBW] Re: Basket Rack with Panniers?

[Collin A]

Jay - agreed that the Basket rack is not the best tool for the job, but its 
the tool I have right now and i'm not in the mood to spend another $280 on 
a (very nice) rack. I also don't know if I would like the impact the front 
load would have on the bike yet, hence trying to use what I have and give 
it a shot for a shorter trip (if its safe).

Mike - the panniers I have are the swanky PR ones that basically have those 
straps built into the carriers, so it would be redundant. BUT that is a 
good idea none-the-less when dealing with the "elastic-hook" style panniers

Bill - Thanks, the redundancy of the irish strap would be helpful. I also 
like the idea of drilling the T-plate for the extra daruma (I have a pair 
sitting in my parts box, so lucky me!), but not ready for that commitment 
yet. I think I'll give a shot with the irish strap and hit the nearby 
trails with a camping load and see how it goes (or doesn't).

Any other thoughts or concerns?

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 9:35:17 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Collin, I think you’d be better off with a Pass and Stow rack for that 
> application. (That’s what Michael appears to have in the pictures he sent.) 
> I have one on my Hunq, and my wife has a Basket Rack on her Cheviot. The 
> Basket Rack is great for lighter loads, but has too many points of 
> articulation/loosening for heavy loads in rough stuff. The Pass and Stow is 
> designed to do exactly what you describe, and is worth every penny. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On May 7, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Michael Williams  wrote:
>
> Hey Collin, one addition to a similar setup you are talking about is 
> using an Irish strap cinched around the back of the rack legs and around 
> the pannier.   I found this really helped keep everything right and in 
> place on rough surfaces and helped keep the bags from bouncing around. 
>  Something like this.  -Mike
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 7, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I think it's worth a try but there are multiple places to add redundancy.  
>
> If the diving board fails the whole assembly will rotate forward and that 
> will be bad.  You should run an Irish strap to prevent that rotation. 
> The telescoping lower strut should be straight vertical, but various 
> twisting motions will make the single Nitto daruma try to unscrew.  If it 
> were me, I'd run a zip tie around the strut and the T plate to help limit 
> rotation there if it wants to loosen.  I'd almost consider drilling a 
> through hole up high on that T-plate for a second Daruma.  That would be 
> super-redundant and would prevent rotation permanently.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 8:34:29 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Howdy Folks,
>>
>> I wanted to poll some of the rivendell hive-mind wisdom here. I'm messing 
>> around with my current bikepacking setup and wanted to give a shot with 
>> front panniers to see how the bike handles. I don't have a dedicated 
>> pannier rack for the front of my bike, but I do have the RBW Basket Rack 
>> and the panniers I have do indeed fit. This Rack: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/a7s5klhjwe-oith-lk5465a
>>
>> So the question is, does anyone with more experience with low-rider-esque 
>> bag setups see an issue with using the basket rack with panniers on 
>> bouncier surfaces? There is only the connection at the fork crown and the 
>> drop outs (no mid-fork struts), and that is what is giving me pause.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Collin in Sacramento
>>
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[RBW] Basket Rack with Panniers?

[Collin A]

Howdy Folks,

I wanted to poll some of the rivendell hive-mind wisdom here. I'm messing 
around with my current bikepacking setup and wanted to give a shot with 
front panniers to see how the bike handles. I don't have a dedicated 
pannier rack for the front of my bike, but I do have the RBW Basket Rack 
and the panniers I have do indeed fit. This 
Rack: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/a7s5klhjwe-oith-lk5465a

So the question is, does anyone with more experience with low-rider-esque 
bag setups see an issue with using the basket rack with panniers on 
bouncier surfaces? There is only the connection at the fork crown and the 
drop outs (no mid-fork struts), and that is what is giving me pause.

Thanks,
Collin in Sacramento

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

[Collin A]

Leah,

I (and Ben) would really recommend trying the dynamo system 1. without any
lights to see how the hib rolls and 2. without the rear light to isolate
any wiring issues.

I've had my SON hub for more than a year now and it was never as notchy or
dragy as yours (unless there was a short of the connections). I just spun
mine without too much force and it spun for about 35 seconds while the
light was connected.

Collin, isolate and solve, in Sacramento

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:54 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Eric: Yours is very quiet! But do I detect the tiniest sound? It sounds
> like my hub only mine was much louder. How long have this SON been in your
> employ?
>
> Joe: Good points, all. My SON only really has a few months of wear. The
> video I sent above was from December when I first thought the hub sounded
> and felt odd.
>
> I picked up my Platy today and it does seem that the light is more
> responsive and the wheel is quieter when spun. The drive train noise is
> gone. I’m taking the bike out with my two sons (my SON with my sons! 藍)
> and doing a night ride after dinner. I’ll have my teenager on my Clem so
> I’ll be able to compare the dyno lights between my two bikes. The mechanic
> said he also switched the tire. Or something. Something about topping off
> the sealant because of this switching, and also something about matching up
> the tread. I don’t know. I rode the bike in the parking lot and the lights
> worked and it wasn’t making off-putting noises, so I skipped my way out to
> my vehicle.
>
> We are heading out soon…I’ll report back. Thanks, everyone!
> L
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Next question for this saga, for folks who know and ride these things: Do
> SON hubs break in and get quieter as the miles pile up? Like they're extra
> stiff and notchy at first, but last longer than other dynos?
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:54:15 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> I'm happy to hear the wheel flip helped! Woohoo ! (Even if it is a
>> mystery as to why??) I hope you now get your bike back and can enjoy those
>> nighttime trails!
>>
>> As for the sound: it mostly sounds normal too me, but there is a
>> secondary second in there that sounds like leaves rustling to me. Like
>> Rowing to Nowhere said, make sure that QR is tight in the axle, though
>> persumably the mechanics will have it in there nice and snug! :)
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:23:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh for Pete's sake! Yep, that's definitely quiet..quieter than the one I
>>> had by a lot.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:16:35 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leah:
>>>>
>>>> Here’s my SON 28 hub in action. It’s totally silent.
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

[Collin A]

That shouldn't matter for the Son Dynamos. Per their FAQ page:
https://nabendynamo.de/en/service/faqs/
[image: Capture.PNG]

But hey, it might solve it?

Collin in Sacramento
On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:14:12 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Interesting catch by Analog, after reviewing the photo: the wheel is 
> backwards. The connector for the hub should be on the right side. The drive 
> side. I can’t believe none of us noticed! I’ll call the shop and tell them 
> to flip it. That’s a start.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> SON 28!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:20 PM, brian tester  wrote:
>
> 
> Is the hub a SON Delux or a SON28? I ask because the Delux was technically 
> developed for 20" wheel bikes, with higher rotation rates. While it works 
> fine built into a larger diameter wheel (and will introduce less pedalling 
> resitance and will weigh slightly less than the SON28,) it will produce 
> less wattage as the the wheel diameter grows. So a 700c wheel with a 
> fattish tire will make fewer rotations per foot than an ideal 20" wheel, 
> therefore producing less watts. Add a tail light to the equation and the 
> hub will be hard-pressed to bring the headlight to full brightness. 
>
> The SON28, on the other hand, is recommended for larger diameter wheels 
> and situations involving additional lighting, i.e. a tail light, and device 
> charging via USB. Probably not exactly what you want to hear, if you do 
> have the SON Delux, but it could go a long way toward explaining your 
> frustrating lack of light.
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[RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

[Collin A]

I'm late to the party, but this is eerily similar to what happened on my 
Partner's AHH when I switched lights to the edelux (after it didn't work as 
well as I'd hoped for trails on my bike)!

Edelux is finicky with tailights in that you need to get the polarity right 
(- on the TL to the flat grounding spade -flat piece with a hole in it- on 
the HL, and then + to +). Ben's test of removing the connections to the TL 
from the HL should help with that, but its key to remove the connections 
from the HL! If that fixes the issue, then you'll need to wire the TL the 
correct way to fix itThis was on the SP hub. Also, I'm sure you checked 
this, but make sure the lights are on the 'always on' setting, could be the 
light sensor is dirty or something.

The noise and extra resistance you mention also occurred on my bike with 
the SON hub, and usually was triggered from a little bit of moisture from 
rain/wet roads seeping into the connection from hub to HL wire. For 
whatever reason, when I installed the fittings I goofed and found there was 
a loose wire and that ended up shorting the circuit from time-to-time and 
was eventually fixed by pulling it apart and reinstalling the connectors 
with a bit more patience. Then sealing it with epoxy before wrapping the 
whole thing in heat shrink. All this to say, it was a poor connection 
between the light and hub that contributed to that resistance (when the 
light was on and connected). Bill's comment about fitting the light to the 
Shimano hub should* also work to separate the light/dynamo issues.

The key with this kind of troubleshooting (as others have mentioned) is to 
test each part by itself as much as you can and then isolate where the 
issues are coming from. And taking notes!

Good luck, I know this can be incredibly frustrating!
Collin in Pedal Powered Sacramento.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:01:53 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I never had dyno until 2020, and now I have it on my 2 bikes. 
>
> 1. 52 cm Clem L with 650b wheels: Shutter Precision hub with Edelux II 
> headlight and fender mounted SON taillight 
>
> 2. 55 cm Platypus with 700c wheels: Schmidt SON hub with Edelux II 
> headlight and fender mounted SON taillight.
>
> So: same lights but different generators.
>
> SON has the votes for best dyno ever, so I went with that for my Platy, 
> but so far, it's not been as good as the SP. I know that cannot be, so 
> something must be wrong with my setup of the SON, or possibly the 
> hub/generator itself. I think it has been this way from the start; I always 
> thought the differences were due to the mounting location of the light.
>
> We had both bikes out on a family ride and the Clem's light was blindingly 
> bright - a veritable floodlight. The Platy's light appeared dim in 
> comparison, even though I was riding the Platy at a faster speed. The 
> Platy's rear light often flickers unless I am riding downhill, and the 
> Clem's does not. I've checked the connections and as best as I can tell, 
> there's nothing amiss. The Clem's headlight is front rack-mounted, and the 
> Platy uses a fork-crown mount. I did a night ride with the Platy last night 
> and was really underwhelmed by the beam. It is not the beam is blocked; it 
> appears the light is just generally dimmed.  I ride a dark path through the 
> desert where there is wilderness on one side and homes distantly located on 
> the other, no streetlights. I need good illumination; the Clem gives ample 
> lighting but I feel like I'm straining to see on my Platy..
>
> Secondly, I hear something in the drivetrain or wheel set of the Platy. 
> Almost like the sound of electrical current. It is only on the Platy, never 
> the Clem. I have heard that the SON is supposed to be silent, but there is 
> definitely noise coming from the bike, but I don't know if it's the hub.
>
> I'm going to take the bike to the shop that built it and see if they can 
> figure out the noise and the dim light. If you have any words of wisdom or 
> direction I could point them in, please let me know here. 
>
> Things I have considered:
> 1. Does the wheel size affect the difference in brightness? 
> 2. Does the mounting location affect the appearance of the beam? (I have 
> tilted the Platy light this way and that so the beam doesn't fall on the 
> front wheel, but no real difference was noted.)
> 3. Maybe there is some tension on the wires somehow?
>
> 
> Don't read past here if you don't want to be subjected to my angst. It is 
> cathartic to talk to bike people about bike woes; no one else understands.
>
> I dread taking the bike in and presenting them with some obscure issues 
> (What is this noise? Don't you hear it? Well, it's not doing it right NOW, 
> but... My light is not 

[RBW] Re: FS: clem'd trek, nitto, tumbleweed, sugino, sram etc.

[Collin A]

Drew, I'll take the ratking T-rack...I've been looking for one for years!

Pm'd you,
Collin

On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 6:55:10 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:

> Updates on what is still available
>
> -*Crust/Nitto quill stem *with 31.8 removable faceplate. unopened- 80$
>
> -*Soma Osprey handlebar. *silver. 31.8. VGC with some shellacked tape I 
> left on. 70$ or 55$ with one of the stems. 
>
> -*T-racks*. Tumbleweed rack is sold.  Rat King T-rack is available. this 
> is the more minimalist version that is lighter and does not have mounts for 
> a light/reflector, but does have eyelets for anything mounts on both sides. 
> VGC 85$
>
> -*Sram 3x9 set. *X5 trigger shifters with an X-7 derailer. minor scuffs 
> to the derailler. not sure what these are worth, since 3x9 has gone out of 
> style. 50$? feel free to make an offer. 
>
> -*Trek mt track 830 step through.* I don't have immediate access to this 
> since its in my dad's garage, but i think it's 1996. i believe this was the 
> highest in the "women's" line that year, and has the better tubing on the 
> fork. I also think it's the biggest size they made...20". Can get more info 
> upon request. I added schwalbe tires, nitto bosco bullmoose bars, brooks 
> flyer, pletscher rear rack, new shifters/v-brakes/cassette/chain/cables 
> etc. Not interesting in shipping at the moment or parting out. located in 
> Los Angeles. not really sure how to price it since its probably worth more 
> parted out, so ill just say 500$ complete for now. 
>
>
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 5:50:12 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I'll take the kickstand.
>> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> Clearing out some stuff, and putting feelers out to see if anyone would 
>>> be interested in the complete version of this trek step thru i built for my 
>>> dad (he just got an electric bike). prices do not include shipping. 
>>> Hopefully photos work. This newer format is not my favorite.
>>>
>>> -*Nitto UI-16 Steel silver 1 1/8 threadless stem*. 70mm, 31.8 clamp. 
>>> VGC- 55$
>>>
>>> -*Crust/Nitto quill stem *with 31.8 removable faceplate. unopened- 80$
>>>
>>> -*Soma Osprey handlebar. *silver. 31.8. VGC with some shellacked tape I 
>>> left on. 70$ or 55$ with one of the stems. 
>>>
>>> -*Tumbleweed T-racks*. Actually one is from Rat king frames when they 
>>> were making them, before they let Tumbleweed have the design. The second is 
>>> from tumbleweed. Tumbleweed is a little heavier duty/has a cross bar on the 
>>> platform and is slightly taller. Rat King is more minimalist and does not 
>>> have mounts for a light/reflector. Both have eyelets for anything mounts. 
>>> both in VGC, but no struts included.  90$ each. 
>>>
>>> *-Sugino chainrings and guard*. These came off of a clipper double that 
>>> riv sells, which is an xd2. 42x26. 1 ride max but probably new. 35$
>>>
>>> *-VO copenhagen double kickstand.* adjustable legs. this needs a 
>>> kickstand plate, or a longer bolt if you want to use it on a bike without 
>>> one. i can throw in a top plate.  15$
>>>
>>> -*Sram 3x9 set. *X5 trigger shifters with an X-7 derailer. minor scuffs 
>>> to the derailler. not sure what these are worth, since 3x9 has gone out of 
>>> style. 50$? feel free to make an offer. 
>>>
>>> -*Suntour xce stuff*. 3x7 shifters (twist and trigger), RD, crankset, 
>>> black canti's. Ok shape. the crankset is the worst part. 30$
>>>
>>> -*Bar end grip thing*s- free with any other item. 
>>>
>>> -*Trek mt track 830 step through.* I don't have immediate access to 
>>> this since its in my dad's garage, but i think it's 1996. i believe this 
>>> was the highest in the "women's" line that year, and has the better tubing 
>>> on the fork. I also think it's the biggest size they made...20". Can get 
>>> more info upon request. I added schwalbe tires, nitto bosco bullmoose bars, 
>>> brooks flyer, pletscher rear rack, new 
>>> shifters/v-brakes/cassette/chain/cables etc. Not interesting in shipping at 
>>> the moment or parting out. located in Los Angeles. not really sure how to 
>>> price it since its probably worth more parted out, so ill just say 500$ 
>>> complete for now. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Drew. los angeles
>>> [image: IMG_6098 (1).jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_6097.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_6101.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_6102.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_6104.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_6106.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Collin A]

There are always the venerable blundstones...they have added the "active 
line" that might actual fit your needs pretty well. Splash proof, not water 
proof.
Men's Active Series - Lightweight Casual, Dress & Outdoor Boots - 
Blundstone USA <https://www.blundstone.com/mens-active-boots>  

For the local rides in and around fall/winter/early spring Sacramento and 
the lower sierras, I like these:
La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes - Men's | REI Co-op 
<https://www.rei.com/product/110660/la-sportiva-wildcat-trail-running-shoes-mens>
  
Still running shoes, but "trail" (can I start using the "back in my day" 
when referencing 15 year old trends, ha) so it just means they are a bit 
stiffer and have stickier soles. They are also splash proof, but i'd not 
recommend using these for extended rides in the rain as they take forever 
to dry. I've had my pair for 3 years now and they are still going strong

Come summer time, i throw on my bedrock sandals cause its HOT here, and the 
river is nearby so I can do a mid or end-of-ride dip in the American river. 
Not what you asked, but seasonal shoes might be worth considering if your 
local climate warrants it.

Collin, its sandal weather here, in Sacramento

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: silver rear hub, 32h, 135mm, 11spd (or 8-10) (Velo Orange, Shimano, White, others)

[Collin A]

Abe,

I don't have any hubs that fit your criteria, but one little informational 
nugget is that 11 spd shimano mtn cassettes actually work on 10 speed 
shimano freehubs! So if you have the linked 670 or 610 hubs above, you'd 
still be able to use 11 speed cassettes (and even the hg700, the most 
recent 105 version of the 11-34 or 11--36 cassette) AND use 9 speed 
cassettes, too, all without spacers, adapters, etc.

Sounds like an awesome wheelbuild!

Cheers,
Collin in Sactown

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-8 Pancake wrote:

> I have a couple Velo Orange Voyager rims (700c, 32h) that I want to build 
> up. Plan to use rim brakes, but a center lock hub would be okay too. Open 
> to other ideas and suggestions too.
>
> *Hubs I'm looking for in particular (32h, silver or polished):*
> Shimano FH-T670 
> <https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/deorelx-t670/FH-T670.html>, 
> (this is my preferred hub, but impossible to find so far), FH-T610 (this 
> seems the most common but can't ben found in silver anywhere), or similar.
> Velo Orange Rear Cassette Hub 
> <https://velo-orange.com/products/rear-cassette-hub-silver-and-noir> in 
> silver.
> White Industries MI5 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/hubs-white-industries-mi5-polished-silver?variant=8645336170607>
>
> More details in case you have a different hub that might work too:
>
> *11 speed hub, but 8-10 speed okay too*: I plan to use a 9 speed 
> cassette, but I would like to use a 11 speed hub (I understand you can add 
> a small spacer behind the cassette to make the 11 speed hub work with a 8, 
> 9, or 10 speed cassette). 
>
> *32 hole* to match my rims.
>
> *Silver or polished* - I'd like to keep everything as silver as possible. 
>
> Will use rim brakes, but if there's a centerlock hub that ticks all the 
> other boxes that would work as well.
>
> *Plan to use a Kasai dynamo hub up front (also 32h in silver or polished) 
> which I'm also interested in buying from list members*, or a similar 
> silver dyanmo hub like Son, SP, or Shimano.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Abe 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sand floatation, comparing 700C and 650B tires of similar width

[Collin A]

I can't comment on personal experience, but I can do Math (sometimes)!

Overall contact patch will be bigger for a 29xY" compared to 27.5xY" and 
26xY" (exact numbers are tricky, but assuming same properties of tires 
you're looking at about 5% greater area between each wheel size) allowing 
for a greater surface area to apply the same load and thus stressing the 
soil less...and you'll have just a smidge more volume (5% from 29xY vs 
27.5xY and again from 27.5xY to 26xY).

Also entirely depends on the type of sand, though. So one persons sand in 
an old river channel in the desert on the west coast is going to be very 
different than someone's sand up in the mountains in the mid west or east 
coast.

Cheers,
Collin, it always depends, in Sacramento.

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 1:15:10 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Curious: have any of you ridden both 700C and 650B fattish tires in sandy 
> terrain, and can you say how the extra ~4 cm difference in height affects 
> floatation, or for that matter, cushioning over small bumps like washboard 
> or tree roots?
>
> Keeping all things equal, of course: similar tires, widths, pressures, 
> just different diameters.
>
> I wonder how the Matthews would feel with true 3" wide 650Bs compared to 
> the Monocog with 2.8" wide 700Cs.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Building a Sam Hillborne

[Collin A]

You ask how to build up a bike, and as others have mentioned there are many 
"good" ways to build up a bike and I'd argue there are almost no "bad" ways 
to build a bike, as long as it works (exaggerating a bit, but you get my 
point)! You have loads of parts, so really it seems like you could build up 
just about anything.

A few questions to get your mental gears turning:
1. Do you want it to be like your other bikes or something different (to 
take advantage of building from the ground up)?
2. Whats the typical ride going to be for the bike? Fully loaded on rough 
trails, smooth pavement and a days worth of food, or somewhere in between?
3. Are there any items you MUST include? I ask because sometimes you have a 
really nice pair of _ that you want to use (and you seem to have TONS 
of parts...).

Personally, I recently converted my Joe to a dirt-drop bar slick 650x50 
bike and LOVE it. 2x9 with friction bar ends are quite fun, but can't say 
they are any better than my 2x11 STI on my 700x38 gravel bike, or the 1x11 
flat bar setup that was on it before. They are all fun and all worth trying 
in my opinion. 

Good luck!
Collin in Sacramento

On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:25:22 AM UTC-8 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have acquired a Sam Hillborne frame. 
> Maybe it's been the long winter. I don't know what. 
> But I am stumped as to how to build it up. (I am ashamed now to realize 
> that while I have owned dozens of bikes, almost all have been completes. I 
> have rarely built one up from a bare frame.)
> Worse (or maybe Better) I have a big collection of spare parts to choose 
> from everything from 6S downtube to 9S speed click shifting, Campagnolo and 
> Shimano. I have about 35-50 of each bit - BB, FD, RD, shifters, cranks
>
> Some advice could be helpful.
> I'll post my spreadsheet here in case anyone wants to look (BTW everything 
> is for sale too. but that's not the point of this post, really. It's more 
> that people can only guide me if they know what my choices are)
>
> https://tinyurl.com/2vhm38sn
>
> Barend shifters or handlebar mounter STI/Ergo "Click" shifters?
> Compact double or a Triple crankset.? (my riding will be mostly paved 
> country roads, maybe some packed gravel, not overly hilly.)
> Drop bars (I have TONS of drop bars) or moustache bars (I don't have any 
> really)? I generally prefer drop bars for all riding situations.
>
> Anyway, rather than wandering aimlessly around in the garage randomly 
> plucking parts from my bins, I'm all ears for a more coherent approach.
>
> Peter Stock
> Toronto Canada 
>
> [image: 59X59 Rivendell Sam Hillborne FULL.JPG]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Cream headtube color

[Collin A]

Reach out to Riv! There was a mention of it on one of grant's Blahgs maybe 
2 years ago related to the Gus Boots wilsen if you want to go searching...

Collin in Sacramento

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 3:49:35 PM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:

> Greetings
> Does anyone know the color or a close enough match to the official cream 
> head tube color Riv uses?  Having my SH frame worked on and subsequently 
> painted and trying to figure that piece out.
> Thank you
> JS
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr. L 59cm Mustard

[Collin A]

I think that was my old Clem. I got away with using a knurled 26.8 seatpost 
(riv performed it without charge and payed for shipping too!). Other option 
is using a 27.0 seatpost, but I think options for that are even more 
limited.

I.e. don't worry about it too much. There are solutions if you end up with 
the 2017 run of Clems if that is all that is out there right now.

Collin, Increasing Surface Area, in Sacramento

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 4:46:09 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ray, are you using the stock post that comes with those frames? I 
> encountered this issue on several MIT Rivs with the 26.8 post that passed 
> through my hands and solved the problem every time with a Nitto post. Those 
> unbranded posts seem to actually have been 26.7. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-8 Ray wrote:
>
>> Just want to chime in and say that if you do go with the Mustard Clem H, 
>> I think you should know that generation of Clem had an issue with the 
>> seatpost lug not clamping well. Maybe they got it sorted out with later 
>> stock, but my mustard clem h that I bought from someone on the group here 
>> recently had this issue and it was a real pain. Seatpost would just 
>> constantly slip. 
>>
>> Writing this out now, I feel like they surely couldn't still be selling 
>> frames with this issue, but I  wanted to call it out just in case.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:22:30 PM UTC-6 BRETT ROBINSON wrote:
>>
>>> Whoa, nice. Quite the premium for mustard, but may go this route if 
>>> nothing better pops up. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://global.bluelug.com/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-frame-set-h-style-mustard.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 10, 2021, at 1:58 PM, BRETT ROBINSON  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In that case, anyone have a 59cm Clementine/Clem L (any color), OR, a 
>>>> 59cm Clem H in mustard? Wanting a step through but I'd consider a 59 H in 
>>>> mustard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also interested in a Rosco Bubbe mixte if anyone is selling.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brett,
>>>>>
>>>>> No mustard L's that I'm aware of. My recollection is there was a 
>>>>> mustard H and orange L in that batch. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 1:05:06 PM UTC-8 BRETT ROBINSON 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's well loved, does duty most days as a school bus or errand runner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, anyone know if 59cm Clem L in mustard was a combo Riv 
>>>>>> produced? Realizing I've never seen a pic of one. Did they only make 
>>>>>> this 
>>>>>> in the H version, or are there L's floating around out there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 7:52:47 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Things That Warm the Heart of Leah Peterson: that’s where to file 
>>>>>>> this. ♥️ I’m so glad the Betty is loved. That was at the top of my 
>>>>>>> list. 
>>>>>>> L
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-8 BRETT ROBINSON 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking for a 59 cm Clem L, in mustard (butterscotch? butternut? 
>>>>>>>> whatever it's called, you know the one!). My wife is tired of me 
>>>>>>>> stealing 
>>>>>>>> her Betty Foy that I bought for her from bicyclebelle last year.
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB 54 Homer

[Collin A]

Hm, I just tried going through the CL email and didn't run into any issues. 
Maybe the listing was updated and the old link got broken?

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:52:43 AM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> But now it saying that the IP address is blocked. I have no idea if it is 
> referring to mine or his. He had said that he was possibly selling both his 
> bikes this weekend, so maybe he did. I should have pulled the trigger
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 2:47 PM Robert Blunt  wrote:
>
>> Yeah. I just send the owner an email. Can't help it anymore.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:42 PM Collin A  wrote:
>>
>>> Not that you are asking, but I say go for it! It's better for the world 
>>> to buy used things rather than new (plus a special one with pointier 
>>> lugs)...
>>>
>>> Collin in Sacramento
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is the one. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:23 PM Matthew Williams  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming you've seen/are referring to this AHH/Saluki:
>>>>>
>>>>> 54cm
>>>>> $2600
>>>>> North Smithfield, RI
>>>>>
>>>>> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-rivendell-ahh-saluki/7247645759.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Matthew,
>>>>> I have seen these listing but am beginning to think I will be waiting 
>>>>> until the new Homers come in in late Spring unless someone has a saluki 
>>>>> they are looking to move. I have found a good saluki but it alas it is 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> the whole bike and a bit on the high side. I might just bite the bullet 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> get it anyway.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:12 PM Matthew Williams <
>>>>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Robert, here are some not-quite-but-almost options:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>>>>> 52cm
>>>>>> $900
>>>>>> Tuscon, AZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/tucson-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-bicycle/7256052597.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>>>>> 59cm
>>>>>> $900
>>>>>> Petaluma, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7265900990.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Hillborne
>>>>>> 60cm
>>>>>> $1623
>>>>>> Petaluma, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-sam-hillborne-60cm/7265901728.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A. Homer Hilsen (complete bike)
>>>>>> 47.5cm
>>>>>> $1990
>>>>>> Surrey, BC (Canada)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/bik/d/surrey-rivendell-bicycle-works/7267691022.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 11:00 AM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone. I am looking for a 54 Homer frameset if anyone is 
>>>>>> looking to move one. I don't care what color it is. 
>>>>>> Robert Blunt
>>>>>> Pennington, NJ
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Re: [RBW] WTB 54 Homer

[Collin A]

Not that you are asking, but I say go for it! It's better for the world to 
buy used things rather than new (plus a special one with pointier lugs)...

Collin in Sacramento

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 11:36:22 AM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

> That is the one. 
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:23 PM Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming you've seen/are referring to this AHH/Saluki:
>>
>> 54cm
>> $2600
>> North Smithfield, RI
>>
>> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-rivendell-ahh-saluki/7247645759.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Matthew,
>> I have seen these listing but am beginning to think I will be waiting 
>> until the new Homers come in in late Spring unless someone has a saluki 
>> they are looking to move. I have found a good saluki but it alas it is for 
>> the whole bike and a bit on the high side. I might just bite the bullet and 
>> get it anyway.
>> Best,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 2:12 PM Matthew Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Robert, here are some not-quite-but-almost options:
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>> 52cm
>>> $900
>>> Tuscon, AZ
>>>
>>> https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/tucson-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-bicycle/7256052597.html
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>> 59cm
>>> $900
>>> Petaluma, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7265900990.html
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne
>>> 60cm
>>> $1623
>>> Petaluma, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-sam-hillborne-60cm/7265901728.html
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen (complete bike)
>>> 47.5cm
>>> $1990
>>> Surrey, BC (Canada)
>>>
>>> https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/bik/d/surrey-rivendell-bicycle-works/7267691022.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 11:00 AM, Robert Blunt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone. I am looking for a 54 Homer frameset if anyone is 
>>> looking to move one. I don't care what color it is. 
>>> Robert Blunt
>>> Pennington, NJ
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino RD2 w/ Wolftooth 38 (+130BCD chainrings)

[Collin A]

Sold, off to SLO.

Cheers,
Collin

On Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 9:10:20 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Continuing a purge of parts, this time its a just a crank. The catch here 
> is that I want to get rid of the whole thing at once. $120 shipped sound 
> fair?
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>
> Sugino RD2 165mm crank length, 130BCD. Comes with a 38t wolftooth 
> chainring that I removed the anodizing so its silver (!), a bashguard 
> chainguard for a 39t ring, and two relatively unused chainrings (39t and 
> 48t, for 8,9,10 speed). Oh, you also get the FSA extractor bolts which are 
> fantastic, and some 2x chainring bolts
>
> Happy Saturday,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
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[RBW] FS: Sugino RD2 w/ Wolftooth 38 (+130BCD chainrings)

[Collin A]

Continuing a purge of parts, this time its a just a crank. The catch here 
is that I want to get rid of the whole thing at once. $120 shipped sound 
fair?

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7

Sugino RD2 165mm crank length, 130BCD. Comes with a 38t wolftooth chainring 
that I removed the anodizing so its silver (!), a bashguard chainguard for 
a 39t ring, and two relatively unused chainrings (39t and 48t, for 8,9,10 
speed). Oh, you also get the FSA extractor bolts which are fantastic, and 
some 2x chainring bolts

Happy Saturday,
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Re: [RBW] FS: Dynamo Light, SimWorks Bars, Teravail Tires

[Collin A]

B Light is off to the Bay Area.

Added some saddles and a tapered headset (make an offer!):

   - FSA 1.125 to 1-5 EC headset. Top is cup and cone, bottom is cartridge 
   w/ a 45 deg contact (no crown race), came off of my disc all-road bike.* 
   $30 shipped*
   - Stock Saddle (Ti Rails, but 283 g measured) from my Kona. 140mm wide, 
   270mm long. Used for about 1 year, and it has a couple scrapes on it. *$20 
   Shipped*
   - WTB Koda saddle. Steel rails, 150mm wide. Partner tried it on the AHH, 
   but went back to the Brooks. Pretty much brand new except clamp marks. *$20 
   Shipped*
   - 
*Teravail Cannonball 650x40 light and supple, tan. About 300-400 miles. A 
   good Country-Bike tire for a new Sam or AHH. Cannonball | Teravail 
   <https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268> $40 shipped *
   - IRD Scramjet BB for Shimano Hollowtech II cranks. Spins smoothly. This 
   one: IRD ScramJet Bottom Bracket Cups w/bearings | Soma Fab Shop 
   
<https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?category=2792>
   . *$20 Shipped*
   
Cheers,
Collin in Sactown
On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 6:11:58 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Alrighty, the bars were quite popular, but went to the local buyer (who 
> was also first dibs).
>
> Rest of the bits are still up for grabs:
>
> B IQ-XS, silver, 65cm cable, rear light connectors installed. It's been 
> on a bike for about a year, but only about 50 miles on it, if that. I have 
> the rear light cord, shorty mount, and the front reflector as well if 
> desired. *$90 shipped*
>
> Teravail Cannonball 650x40 light and supple, tan. About 300-400 miles. A 
> good Country-Bike tire for a new Sam or AHH. Cannonball | Teravail 
> <https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268> *$50 shipped*
>
> IRD Scramjet BB for Shimano Hollowtech II cranks. Spins smoothly. This 
> one: IRD ScramJet Bottom Bracket Cups w/bearings | Soma Fab Shop 
> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?category=2792>
> . *$30 Shipped*
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 4:04:14 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> E-mailed re: Fun 3
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 16:01, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have some leftover bits from a few bike projects and bar conversions, 
>> and a currently overflowing parts pin. Photos here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>>
>> Simworks Fun3 Bars, silver CrMo. 25.4 center clamp, 680mm wide. Worked 
>> well for a more setback position than the Riv Wavy bar, and MUCH easier to 
>> attach bags to. This one: Fun 3 Bar – SimWorks USA 
>> <https://www.sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/fun-3-bar>.
>>  
>> *$40 + actual shipping*
>>
>> B IQ-XS, silver, 65cm cable, rear light connectors installed. It's been 
>> on a bike for about a year, but only about 50 miles on it, if that. I have 
>> the rear light cord, shorty mount, and the front reflector as well if 
>> desired. *$90 shipped*
>>
>> Teravail Cannonball 650x40 light and supple, tan. About 300-400 miles. A 
>> good Country-Bike tire for a new Sam or AHH. Cannonball | Teravail 
>> <https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268> *$50 shipped*
>>
>> IRD Scramjet BB for Shimano Hollowtech II cranks. Spins smoothly. This 
>> one: IRD ScramJet Bottom Bracket Cups w/bearings | Soma Fab Shop 
>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?category=2792>.
>>  
>> *$30 Shipped*
>>
>> Hope everyone is having a good weekend. It's just about perfect here in 
>> Sacramento (seen below my newly drop-barified Joe A, from the forest divide 
>> trail near Auburn, CA).
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Sac
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Re: [RBW] FS: Dynamo Light, SimWorks Bars, Teravail Tires

[Collin A]

Alrighty, the bars were quite popular, but went to the local buyer (who was 
also first dibs).

Rest of the bits are still up for grabs:

B IQ-XS, silver, 65cm cable, rear light connectors installed. It's been 
on a bike for about a year, but only about 50 miles on it, if that. I have 
the rear light cord, shorty mount, and the front reflector as well if 
desired. *$90 shipped*

Teravail Cannonball 650x40 light and supple, tan. About 300-400 miles. A 
good Country-Bike tire for a new Sam or AHH. Cannonball | Teravail 
<https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268> *$50 shipped*

IRD Scramjet BB for Shimano Hollowtech II cranks. Spins smoothly. This one: IRD 
ScramJet Bottom Bracket Cups w/bearings | Soma Fab Shop 
<https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?category=2792>
. *$30 Shipped*

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 4:04:14 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> E-mailed re: Fun 3
>
> On Jan 17, 2021, at 16:01, Collin A  wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
> I have some leftover bits from a few bike projects and bar conversions, 
> and a currently overflowing parts pin. Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>
> Simworks Fun3 Bars, silver CrMo. 25.4 center clamp, 680mm wide. Worked 
> well for a more setback position than the Riv Wavy bar, and MUCH easier to 
> attach bags to. This one: Fun 3 Bar – SimWorks USA 
> <https://www.sim.works/collections/handle-bars-simworks-by-nitto/products/fun-3-bar>.
>  
> *$40 + actual shipping*
>
> B IQ-XS, silver, 65cm cable, rear light connectors installed. It's been 
> on a bike for about a year, but only about 50 miles on it, if that. I have 
> the rear light cord, shorty mount, and the front reflector as well if 
> desired. *$90 shipped*
>
> Teravail Cannonball 650x40 light and supple, tan. About 300-400 miles. A 
> good Country-Bike tire for a new Sam or AHH. Cannonball | Teravail 
> <https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268> *$50 shipped*
>
> IRD Scramjet BB for Shimano Hollowtech II cranks. Spins smoothly. This 
> one: IRD ScramJet Bottom Bracket Cups w/bearings | Soma Fab Shop 
> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?category=2792>.
>  
> *$30 Shipped*
>
> Hope everyone is having a good weekend. It's just about perfect here in 
> Sacramento (seen below my newly drop-barified Joe A, from the forest divide 
> trail near Auburn, CA).
>
> 
>
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sac
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[RBW] Re: Wheel Pull on My Toyo Atlantis?

[Collin A]

Hey Andrew,

I had a similar feeling when I had my Clem with a P rack with a heavy 
basket load...took some effort to manage the steering and didn't feel the 
same. Issue was resolved when I put less weight up front (during camping, 
it meant the sleeping setup) and switched to a smaller surly 8-pack 
rack...no ideas if the weight was any different, but it did make it less 
"twitchy." I can't comment on the GK tires, but I have had some self steer 
issues when using too-big-a-tire at too-low-a-pressure as well.

Cheers, 
Collin, in Sacramento

On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 8:26:10 AM UTC-8 nus...@gmail.com wrote:

> I need some help from the RBW hive mind. Recently I've noticed a drag or 
> catch on my front tire/wheel when I initiate a turn on my Toyo Atlantis. I 
> can't tell if its my tires (Gravel King SK 700 x 50) - are they under 
> inflated? Or maybe my headset is over tightened? But when I turn, I often 
> feel pulled more than is natural or I experience on other bikes - like the 
> wheel wants to make a sharp left turn, when I intend/want a much milder 
> angle. The attached picture shows the bike as currently set up. Other 
> possible culprits include: the front rack (pass & stow), perhaps the stubby 
> stem (50mm)--and always (and maybe most likely) user error.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
> Denver
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything / Cargo Cage mounted to seat stays or fork braze-ons?

[Collin A]

Hey,

The front mounts won't work thanks to the spacing. The rear will be tricky 
because the seat stays aren't in line with the bolt faces (i.e. eyelets are 
perpendicular to the center-line of the frame, but are about 1-3 cm 
laterally offset)...spacing isn't also perfectly set, and you have to deal 
with m5 and m6 bolts.

You might be able to get something to work by using the b-rad cage adapters 
from wolftooth (the really long ones). Another option is to use those king 
cage USB adapters for the seat stay and bolt one of the cage holes to it, 
either way, not a particularly elegant solution, and neither of these are 
recommended for the fork I believe...

Also, look at this rack if you are trying to find the 3-pack mounts and 
still be light-ish (I think 500-ish grams?). You also get a saddle bag 
carrier!   http://www.tumbleweed.cc/store/t-rack  

In summary, it'd be a lot of work, and you are probably best with using 
bags with minimal supports like the caradice , etc. if you want to reduce 
the dead weight on your frame.

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 10:39:44 PM UTC-8 brizbarn wrote:

> Has anyone ever bolted an anything style cage to their Riv seat stay or 
> fork rack mounts? With four rack mounts on frames like the Appaloosa, 
> Atlantis, and Hillborne, I wonder if it's possible to bolt on an anything 
> cage.  Could be an alternative to running a traditional rack if the spacing 
> is correct. Photoshopped mock-up picture attached of what I'm talking 
> about. 
>
> [image: appaloosaorangedrivesideframe_anything.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Any Simworks Fun 3 Bar users out there?

[Collin A]

I liked them more than the Get-rounds, mostly because the grips position 
was further back (thanks long top-tube rivs) and the 30-ish deg backsweep 
agreed with my setup. Also works great for bag strapping.

Highly recommended, and I even have a set of the crmo sitting sadly in my 
parts box...

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 8:52:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> I'm curious about these and how they compare to the Getaround bars. A 
> little more sweep and rise, good forward position. They look kinda sweet. 
> Are they?
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Re: Tell me about your super-wide drops

[Collin A]

I'll add my little tidbit after trying 2 different wide (560 at the drops, 
48 to 50 at the hoods) not Super-Wide drop bars. The main point I think is 
that the wide drops are kinda like saddles - find one with a shape that you 
like because everyone will tell you something different. I also don't think 
its better than any particular setup, just something different that may fit 
your needs better than typical drops or flat bars.

Key Points to make it work (I think):
Shorten your stem
Know what flare you like (for me, 15-20 is perfect for rough stuff, 12 is 
the max I go for road). I think more flare the wider you go is important, 
but massive flare on the narrower side is kinda weird
Get levers that work well braking from the hoods if that's your thing
Be open to adjusting your whole cockpit - saddle tilt, setback, bar height, 
angle, etc.

Benefits:
It feels great when you have a set of bars that works with your body 
position and riding style. 
I definitely feel like I can throw the bike around a bit more when going 
down fun single track compared to narrow drops
Gets me out of the wind (at least mentally) compared to flats
Gives room for big bags
You are "on-trend"

Cons:
Expensive to do the switch if you don't have the parts (new long bar tape 
that is sometimes hard to find, shorter stem, drop bar parts, etc.)
Takes a little bit of getting used to and fiddling with cockpit setup
Shifting can be a bit of a bear to setup - will need longer cables if doing 
bar ends and most modern bar shapes have tight curves

Hope this helps,
Collin, in Sacramento

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 4:34:50 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Big, wide drops seem to be everywhere these days, even here in the group! 
> I've noticed some for sale and others used in builds. Rather than read 
> through another dull review in some unfamiliar corner of the internet I 
> wanted to see if anyone in the group could share some firsthand experience. 
> How does it feel running those > 50cm drop bars?

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[RBW] Re: Just Because I Gotta Share Riv Pics

[Collin A]

The lateral bracing members or the corroded rebar and spalled concrete? 
That's actually not great looking and might be worth letting the local 
Department of Transportation know (a little prod from the public about this 
kind of stuff can sometimes trigger a quick repair, but often times won't).

My Dad just moved to Dallas, actually, keep an eye out for an old guy in 
his mid 60s riding a 1980s trek 520, ha!

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 8:34:02 AM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> I always find the underside of this bridge not far from downtown 
> fascinating. 
>
> No troll seen yet.
>
> Someone with a Surly Troll should go snap their Troll here.
>
>
> Paul in Dallas
> [image: Image] 
>
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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Collin A]

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and ideas. I think I will terminate the 
project, just trying to make too many things happen at once. I did have 
this bike built up before and it rode nicely, so there isn't too much of a 
need to do a "good enough" build for the time being.

Luckily most of the components I still have serve as great spares for bike 
in the current fleet, or at least the nice parts (XTR hubs, etc.), but I 
will be posting some of the other stuff for sale (nitto bars, BB, cranks, 
etc) after the holidays as well.

Now to just prevent myself from picking up another project bike here in the 
next few months...

Cheers and happy holidays,
Collin

On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> Having successfully done it at no cost (friend with a tig welder and 
> experience welding prototype medical equipment, rattlecan touch up) to a 
> bike that became a favorite (and I imagine sorta close to an original 26" 
> Atlantis) I have to disagree. Even has a 700C to 26" Rivendell fork.
>
> [image: IMG_0005.JPG][image: IMG_9916(1).JPG]
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:32:33 AM UTC-5 ryan.merri...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, when you start talking about adding canti posts, it's time for a 
>> different frame. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so short story long:
>>>
>>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>>
>>>- (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>>(cause why not?) and canti posts
>>>- (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>>- (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>>rear for even more clearance
>>>- (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>>wheels are now sold
>>>- (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>>which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the 
>>> Appaloosa
>>>- (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>>(see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>>- (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>>no freewheel yet.
>>>
>>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>>
>>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that 
>>> unique of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, 
>>> etc.) and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that 
>>> aspect. The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a 
>>> unique feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this 
>>> effort on it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in 
>>>> understanding how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally 
>>>> pretty impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are 
>>>> still new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - 
>>>> there is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's 
>>>> an exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once 
>>>> complete, I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, 
>>>> supply, 
>>>> and bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - 
>>>> and that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid 
>>>> cash, then maybe different story.  
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Collin A]

Scott, that's exactly why I am thinking about abandonment now...I've 
already spent so much time and effort and normally i'd think "what's a bit 
more" but I've been screwed by that approach in the past (which eventually 
prompted an involuntary career switch).

Patrick/Jason, I agree that taking a break would be beneficial. But like a 
FULL break for a couple months (no looking for parts, no brainstorming, 
nothing). This thing has been bouncing around in my head for the past 5 
months now, so I think a mental break would help clear the decision making 
process as it relates to this bike.

Still no decision though,
Collin

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Might be worth reading up on Sunk Cost Fallacy:
>
> https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>
> Scott
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:43:43 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Ok, so short story long:
>>
>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>
>>- (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>(cause why not?) and canti posts
>>- (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>- (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>rear for even more clearance
>>- (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>wheels are now sold
>>- (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the Appaloosa
>>- (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>(see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>- (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>no freewheel yet.
>>
>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>
>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that unique 
>> of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, etc.) 
>> and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that aspect. 
>> The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a unique 
>> feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this effort on 
>> it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Sactown
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in understanding 
>>> how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally pretty 
>>> impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are still 
>>> new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - there 
>>> is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's an 
>>> exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once complete, 
>>> I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, supply, and 
>>> bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - and 
>>> that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid cash, 
>>> then maybe different story.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Collin A]

Ok, so short story long:

Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as part 
of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the ground. 
This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
I began the modifications planned, which included:

   - (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts (cause 
   why not?) and canti posts
   - (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
   - (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
   rear for even more clearance
   - (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original wheels 
   are now sold
   - (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
   which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the Appaloosa
   - (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers (see 
   above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
   - (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but no 
   freewheel yet.

The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I am 
more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket combo 
and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when it 
comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a more 
expensive bike than I'd like.

The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that unique 
of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, etc.) 
and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that aspect. 
The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a unique 
feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this effort on 
it.

Cheers,
Collin in Sactown

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in understanding 
> how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally pretty 
> impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are still 
> new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - there 
> is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's an 
> exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once complete, 
> I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, supply, and 
> bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - and 
> that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid cash, 
> then maybe different story.  

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[RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Collin A]

Short story, I have a frame and fork I want to build up, but with the COVID 
supply issues, and the rising costs of the project to reach completion, I 
am starting to consider ending the project and selling the parts I have 
been saving it for to try and recoup some of the costs.

For those that have also thrown in the towel and moved on (to, most likely, 
another bike project), what was the final straw? Any words of wisdom to 
keep chugging along?

Happy Festivus,
Collin, airing his grievances, in Sacramento

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Paul Mini Motos for Your Paul Cantis

[Collin A]

Thanks everyone!

I got the cantis, brake levers, and I'll throw some money at Riv for the 
holidays (along with a gift card) to grab the shifter pod.

Cheers!
Collin in Foggy Sacramento

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:02:48 AM UTC-8 Damien wrote:

> Collin, I have some TRP RRL SR (Drilled Silver with the gum hoods). Brand 
> new in box - never got used. PM me!
>
> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 17:38:46 UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Well, that was quick...
>>
>> No more Pauls, but I am still looking for those TRP levers and a silver 
>> shifter bar end pod...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, Operation Warp *Speedier*, in Sacramento
>>
>> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Currently trying a cockpit switch, that turned into a brake switch, but 
>>> the minimotos aren't giving me enough clearance with the current tire and 
>>> fender setup I like. SO, I have a set of pretty much unused mini-motos in 
>>> silver lying in my parts box, taunting me, and threatening to make me buy 
>>> another bike to put them on...
>>>
>>> I am looking for a set of Paul Touring/Neo Retro cantis, ideally silver. 
>>> If you also have some spare cable hangers I'll grab those as well :). 
>>> Depending on condition, we can haggle/negotiate, but that'll be for later.
>>>
>>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SWnGPZgUjZ5AUwzX6
>>>
>>> I'm also looking for some TRP RRL levers and one silver bar end shifter 
>>> pod, if anyone is holding.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone is staying safe,
>>> Collin in Sacramento
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Paul Mini Motos for Your Paul Cantis

[Collin A]

Well, that was quick...

No more Pauls, but I am still looking for those TRP levers and a silver 
shifter bar end pod...

Cheers,
Collin, Operation Warp *Speedier*, in Sacramento

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Currently trying a cockpit switch, that turned into a brake switch, but 
> the minimotos aren't giving me enough clearance with the current tire and 
> fender setup I like. SO, I have a set of pretty much unused mini-motos in 
> silver lying in my parts box, taunting me, and threatening to make me buy 
> another bike to put them on...
>
> I am looking for a set of Paul Touring/Neo Retro cantis, ideally silver. 
> If you also have some spare cable hangers I'll grab those as well :). 
> Depending on condition, we can haggle/negotiate, but that'll be for later.
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SWnGPZgUjZ5AUwzX6
>
> I'm also looking for some TRP RRL levers and one silver bar end shifter 
> pod, if anyone is holding.
>
> Hope everyone is staying safe,
> Collin in Sacramento
>

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[RBW] WTT: My Paul Mini Motos for Your Paul Cantis

[Collin A]

Hi Folks,

Currently trying a cockpit switch, that turned into a brake switch, but the 
minimotos aren't giving me enough clearance with the current tire and 
fender setup I like. SO, I have a set of pretty much unused mini-motos in 
silver lying in my parts box, taunting me, and threatening to make me buy 
another bike to put them on...

I am looking for a set of Paul Touring/Neo Retro cantis, ideally silver. If 
you also have some spare cable hangers I'll grab those as well :). 
Depending on condition, we can haggle/negotiate, but that'll be for later.

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SWnGPZgUjZ5AUwzX6

I'm also looking for some TRP RRL levers and one silver bar end shifter 
pod, if anyone is holding.

Hope everyone is staying safe,
Collin in Sacramento

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Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

[Collin A]

Awesome! Shoot him an email first, just to make sure he is able to work on 
them/has stock. He has been a busy guy these last few weeks.

Collin, Sactown

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 2:47:19 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Yes! Perfect! My town. 
>
> On Dec 18, 2020, at 14:36, Collin A  wrote:
>
> This guy is local to Sacramento and does it on the side:
>
> https://www.cyclecatsdesign.com/ 
>
> He does waxed canvas.
>
> Also this guy:
> https://www.petercaneza.com/snackbags
>
> Haven't used them, but apparently you can send old fabrics/gear and he can 
> make the bag out of it for you.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sacramento
>
>
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:26:40 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Yes, I am familiar with Makeshifter, they make nice bags. They're not 
>> making custom bags as they are very busy making and delivering the stock 
>> bags they currently make and sell. I'm familiar with the bags sold by 
>> Simworks, and Golden Pliers and similar bike shops (all the Riv dealers). 
>> I'm really looking for a hobby crafter person like Greg, who maybe does 
>> this on the side, or is just starting out,  or is trying to get their 
>> product out there. 
>>
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Makeshifter in Portland. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:06:30 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but 
>>>> I have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter 
>>>> types, maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. It was fun picking the 
>>>> crazy fabrics and having the freedom to sort of design it. This go round I 
>>>> want to add a pocket to the bag and that's probably not something one of 
>>>> the...I hate to say "larger" because they're mostly not...but a place 
>>>> that's not doing one bag at a time would do. 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:02:33 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is https://www.randijofab.com on your radar at all? Her stock items 
>>>>> are nice, and she may be open to custom bag orders as well. I recently 
>>>>> ordered a cap in a custom configuration and it wasn’t a hassle at all. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Lucky  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I found a guy who makes handlebar snack bags (amongst many other bike 
>>>>> bags) and I love the ones I got from him very much (he is @greg.newland 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> Instagram) but he's currently not taking custom orders. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there are a lot of commercially made bags online but I'm 
>>>>> looking for something interesting and fun, crazy fabrics and so on that I 
>>>>> can't seem to find "off the shelf". 
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone want to recommend an individual who is taking commissions right 
>>>>> now or who maybe isn't one of the big name places that I've already seen? 
>>>>>
>>>>> By "snack bag" I mean those tube shaped stem bags that can hold a 
>>>>> large bottle or a mess of snacks, or whatever, typically with a 
>>>>> drawstring. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, looking for individuals here more than companies (Chrome, etc)
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

[Collin A]

This guy is local to Sacramento and does it on the side:
https://www.cyclecatsdesign.com/ 

He does waxed canvas.

Also this guy:
https://www.petercaneza.com/snackbags

Haven't used them, but apparently you can send old fabrics/gear and he can 
make the bag out of it for you.

Cheers,
Collin in Sacramento


On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:26:40 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Yes, I am familiar with Makeshifter, they make nice bags. They're not 
> making custom bags as they are very busy making and delivering the stock 
> bags they currently make and sell. I'm familiar with the bags sold by 
> Simworks, and Golden Pliers and similar bike shops (all the Riv dealers). 
> I'm really looking for a hobby crafter person like Greg, who maybe does 
> this on the side, or is just starting out,  or is trying to get their 
> product out there. 
>
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Makeshifter in Portland. 
>>
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:06:30 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but I 
>>> have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter types, 
>>> maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. It was fun picking the crazy 
>>> fabrics and having the freedom to sort of design it. This go round I want 
>>> to add a pocket to the bag and that's probably not something one of the...I 
>>> hate to say "larger" because they're mostly not...but a place that's not 
>>> doing one bag at a time would do. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:02:33 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is https://www.randijofab.com on your radar at all? Her stock items 
>>>> are nice, and she may be open to custom bag orders as well. I recently 
>>>> ordered a cap in a custom configuration and it wasn’t a hassle at all. 
>>>>
>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Lucky  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I found a guy who makes handlebar snack bags (amongst many other bike 
>>>> bags) and I love the ones I got from him very much (he is @greg.newland on 
>>>> Instagram) but he's currently not taking custom orders. 
>>>>
>>>> I know there are a lot of commercially made bags online but I'm looking 
>>>> for something interesting and fun, crazy fabrics and so on that I can't 
>>>> seem to find "off the shelf". 
>>>>
>>>> Anyone want to recommend an individual who is taking commissions right 
>>>> now or who maybe isn't one of the big name places that I've already seen? 
>>>>
>>>> By "snack bag" I mean those tube shaped stem bags that can hold a large 
>>>> bottle or a mess of snacks, or whatever, typically with a drawstring. 
>>>>
>>>> Again, looking for individuals here more than companies (Chrome, etc)
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Collin A]

That is an immaculate bike, and I actually like the pop of red on those 
pedals!

Is this version 19.1, or has is stayed mostly the same throughout those 19 
years?

Cheers,
Collin, almost as young as Rivendell, in Sacramento


On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 8:30:03 AM UTC-8 Damien wrote:

> Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada!
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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Tires + Nitto + IRD

[Collin A]

The Cazaderos are gonezos. 

Just the IRD BB and the 650x40 cannonballs left...again, a great set of 
tires for a country-style Hillborne or AHH

Stay Safe,
Collin, Its gonna rain, in Sacramento

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 7:39:03 AM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I ended up with some schwalbe g-one all rounds (27.5x2.25) for riding 
> around during the summer/dry months and the soma cazaderos (27.5x2) for 
> winter. The dirt here can get a little sticky when it gets wet and I need a 
> bit more clearance to avoid unwanted paint rub. Both tires roll incredibly 
> well (quiet) on pavement when the pressure is set just right.
>
> Collin in Foggy Sacramento
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:30:09 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> Which tires did you decide worked the best for your bike and riding style.
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 3:38:36 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Group,
>>>
>>> I've gone through some recent tire-experiments and finalized the tires 
>>> I'd like to use for my Appaloosa. If you want multiple things, I can 
>>> combine and save some money on shipping. Photos Here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>>>
>>> 650x40 Teravail Cannonball Light Tan: Used these for 
>>> about 300-ish miles on a single speed gravel bike back at the start of the 
>>> pandemic. No gashes, etc. almost no wear at all on the tread. It's a great 
>>> set of tires for a more off-road focused Homer or hillborne, measured at 
>>> 39mm on A23 rims $70 Shipped. 
>>> https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268
>>>
>>> 650x50 Soma Cazaderos: These were a crash replacement for an identical 
>>> set of tires that I have since repaired with super glue and dental floss. I 
>>> don't have room to hold onto these, sadly. They roll quitely on pavement 
>>> and provide good traction on the loose stuff. $80 Shipped. 
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-cazadero-tires-various-sizes
>>>  
>>>
>>> 650x47 WTB Horizons (TCS tanwall): Got these from another list member 
>>> and set them up tubeless - went on a 50 mile ride, but they didn't quite 
>>> work for me. They measure right on 47mm on cliffhangers. $60 Shipped. 
>>> https://www.wtb.com/collections/road/products/horizon  
>>>
>>> Nitto Technomic Delux Stem, 90mm stem length 26.0 clamp diam: It has 
>>> some markings on the quill, but still in good condition. I also have the 
>>> 25.4 to 26.0 shims that I can throw in for another $10 if interested. $40 
>>> shipped
>>>
>>> IRD Scramjet BB (black): This is a shimano hollowtech II compatible BB. 
>>> Can be used on both a 73 or 68 shell thanks to the telescoping center. Used 
>>> for about 300-ish road miles in fair weather, but has some marring on the 
>>> teeth during install/removal. $30 shipped.
>>>
>>> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?search=bottom+bracket
>>>   
>>>
>>> I plan to ship USPS, but given the overwhelmed shipping system right 
>>> now, expect delivery to take a bit longer than normal.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, it finally rained, in Sacramento
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Tires + Nitto + IRD

[Collin A]

Paul,

I ended up with some schwalbe g-one all rounds (27.5x2.25) for riding 
around during the summer/dry months and the soma cazaderos (27.5x2) for 
winter. The dirt here can get a little sticky when it gets wet and I need a 
bit more clearance to avoid unwanted paint rub. Both tires roll incredibly 
well (quiet) on pavement when the pressure is set just right.

Collin in Foggy Sacramento

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:30:09 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:

> Which tires did you decide worked the best for your bike and riding style.
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 3:38:36 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Hey Group,
>>
>> I've gone through some recent tire-experiments and finalized the tires 
>> I'd like to use for my Appaloosa. If you want multiple things, I can 
>> combine and save some money on shipping. Photos Here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>>
>> 650x40 Teravail Cannonball Light Tan: Used these for about 300-ish 
>> miles on a single speed gravel bike back at the start of the pandemic. No 
>> gashes, etc. almost no wear at all on the tread. It's a great set of tires 
>> for a more off-road focused Homer or hillborne, measured at 39mm on A23 
>> rims $70 Shipped. 
>> https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268
>>
>> 650x50 Soma Cazaderos: These were a crash replacement for an identical 
>> set of tires that I have since repaired with super glue and dental floss. I 
>> don't have room to hold onto these, sadly. They roll quitely on pavement 
>> and provide good traction on the loose stuff. $80 Shipped. 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-cazadero-tires-various-sizes
>>  
>>
>> 650x47 WTB Horizons (TCS tanwall): Got these from another list member and 
>> set them up tubeless - went on a 50 mile ride, but they didn't quite work 
>> for me. They measure right on 47mm on cliffhangers. $60 Shipped. 
>> https://www.wtb.com/collections/road/products/horizon  
>>
>> Nitto Technomic Delux Stem, 90mm stem length 26.0 clamp diam: It has some 
>> markings on the quill, but still in good condition. I also have the 25.4 to 
>> 26.0 shims that I can throw in for another $10 if interested. $40 shipped
>>
>> IRD Scramjet BB (black): This is a shimano hollowtech II compatible BB. 
>> Can be used on both a 73 or 68 shell thanks to the telescoping center. Used 
>> for about 300-ish road miles in fair weather, but has some marring on the 
>> teeth during install/removal. $30 shipped.
>>
>> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?search=bottom+bracket
>>   
>>
>> I plan to ship USPS, but given the overwhelmed shipping system right now, 
>> expect delivery to take a bit longer than normal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, it finally rained, in Sacramento
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Tires + Nitto + IRD

[Collin A]

WTB Tires are off and away.

Soma Cazadero, Teravail cannonballs and a swanky IRD BB are still available.

Thanks,
Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 4:29:06 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Nitto Stem is sold, the rest is still for sale.
>
> Collin in Sac-Town
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 3:38:36 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Hey Group,
>>
>> I've gone through some recent tire-experiments and finalized the tires 
>> I'd like to use for my Appaloosa. If you want multiple things, I can 
>> combine and save some money on shipping. Photos Here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>>
>> 650x40 Teravail Cannonball Light Tan: Used these for about 300-ish 
>> miles on a single speed gravel bike back at the start of the pandemic. No 
>> gashes, etc. almost no wear at all on the tread. It's a great set of tires 
>> for a more off-road focused Homer or hillborne, measured at 39mm on A23 
>> rims $70 Shipped. 
>> https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268
>>
>> 650x50 Soma Cazaderos: These were a crash replacement for an identical 
>> set of tires that I have since repaired with super glue and dental floss. I 
>> don't have room to hold onto these, sadly. They roll quitely on pavement 
>> and provide good traction on the loose stuff. $80 Shipped. 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-cazadero-tires-various-sizes
>>  
>>
>> 650x47 WTB Horizons (TCS tanwall): Got these from another list member and 
>> set them up tubeless - went on a 50 mile ride, but they didn't quite work 
>> for me. They measure right on 47mm on cliffhangers. $60 Shipped. 
>> https://www.wtb.com/collections/road/products/horizon  
>>
>> Nitto Technomic Delux Stem, 90mm stem length 26.0 clamp diam: It has some 
>> markings on the quill, but still in good condition. I also have the 25.4 to 
>> 26.0 shims that I can throw in for another $10 if interested. $40 shipped
>>
>> IRD Scramjet BB (black): This is a shimano hollowtech II compatible BB. 
>> Can be used on both a 73 or 68 shell thanks to the telescoping center. Used 
>> for about 300-ish road miles in fair weather, but has some marring on the 
>> teeth during install/removal. $30 shipped.
>>
>> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?search=bottom+bracket
>>   
>>
>> I plan to ship USPS, but given the overwhelmed shipping system right now, 
>> expect delivery to take a bit longer than normal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, it finally rained, in Sacramento
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Tires + Nitto + IRD

[Collin A]

Nitto Stem is sold, the rest is still for sale.

Collin in Sac-Town

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 3:38:36 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Hey Group,
>
> I've gone through some recent tire-experiments and finalized the tires I'd 
> like to use for my Appaloosa. If you want multiple things, I can combine 
> and save some money on shipping. Photos Here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7
>
> 650x40 Teravail Cannonball Light Tan: Used these for about 300-ish 
> miles on a single speed gravel bike back at the start of the pandemic. No 
> gashes, etc. almost no wear at all on the tread. It's a great set of tires 
> for a more off-road focused Homer or hillborne, measured at 39mm on A23 
> rims $70 Shipped. 
> https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268
>
> 650x50 Soma Cazaderos: These were a crash replacement for an identical set 
> of tires that I have since repaired with super glue and dental floss. I 
> don't have room to hold onto these, sadly. They roll quitely on pavement 
> and provide good traction on the loose stuff. $80 Shipped. 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-cazadero-tires-various-sizes
>  
>
> 650x47 WTB Horizons (TCS tanwall): Got these from another list member and 
> set them up tubeless - went on a 50 mile ride, but they didn't quite work 
> for me. They measure right on 47mm on cliffhangers. $60 Shipped. 
> https://www.wtb.com/collections/road/products/horizon  
>
> Nitto Technomic Delux Stem, 90mm stem length 26.0 clamp diam: It has some 
> markings on the quill, but still in good condition. I also have the 25.4 to 
> 26.0 shims that I can throw in for another $10 if interested. $40 shipped
>
> IRD Scramjet BB (black): This is a shimano hollowtech II compatible BB. 
> Can be used on both a 73 or 68 shell thanks to the telescoping center. Used 
> for about 300-ish road miles in fair weather, but has some marring on the 
> teeth during install/removal. $30 shipped.
>
> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?search=bottom+bracket
>   
>
> I plan to ship USPS, but given the overwhelmed shipping system right now, 
> expect delivery to take a bit longer than normal.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, it finally rained, in Sacramento
>

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[RBW] FS: 650b Tires + Nitto + IRD

[Collin A]

Hey Group,

I've gone through some recent tire-experiments and finalized the tires I'd 
like to use for my Appaloosa. If you want multiple things, I can combine 
and save some money on shipping. Photos 
Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/D4YDUqGTy17v8PLP7

650x40 Teravail Cannonball Light Tan: Used these for about 300-ish 
miles on a single speed gravel bike back at the start of the pandemic. No 
gashes, etc. almost no wear at all on the tread. It's a great set of tires 
for a more off-road focused Homer or hillborne, measured at 39mm on A23 
rims $70 Shipped. 
https://teravail.com/tires/cannonball#TR7268

650x50 Soma Cazaderos: These were a crash replacement for an identical set 
of tires that I have since repaired with super glue and dental floss. I 
don't have room to hold onto these, sadly. They roll quitely on pavement 
and provide good traction on the loose stuff. $80 Shipped. 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-cazadero-tires-various-sizes
 

650x47 WTB Horizons (TCS tanwall): Got these from another list member and 
set them up tubeless - went on a 50 mile ride, but they didn't quite work 
for me. They measure right on 47mm on cliffhangers. $60 Shipped. 
https://www.wtb.com/collections/road/products/horizon  

Nitto Technomic Delux Stem, 90mm stem length 26.0 clamp diam: It has some 
markings on the quill, but still in good condition. I also have the 25.4 to 
26.0 shims that I can throw in for another $10 if interested. $40 shipped

IRD Scramjet BB (black): This is a shimano hollowtech II compatible BB. Can 
be used on both a 73 or 68 shell thanks to the telescoping center. Used for 
about 300-ish road miles in fair weather, but has some marring on the teeth 
during install/removal. $30 shipped.
https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-scramjet-bottom-bracket-cups-w-bearings-2550?search=bottom+bracket
  

I plan to ship USPS, but given the overwhelmed shipping system right now, 
expect delivery to take a bit longer than normal.

Cheers,
Collin, it finally rained, in Sacramento

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Frame Bag?

[Collin A]

You could see if Riv's fabric could be used by a custom bag maker? 

This guy does waxed canvas, but it's not the same quality as the Sackville 
material:
https://www.cyclecatsdesign.com/ 

Collin in Sacramento 

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-8 Wyatt wrote:

> Ah, good to know! Thanks.
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Roman is into them and sewed his own for a couple bikes. I think there 
>> was some discussion of doing them as a Riv product but he's not there 
>> anymore, not sure if the idea got very far. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:28:19 PM UTC-8 Wyatt wrote:
>>
>>> I seem to remember a Sackville frame bag being teased awhile back. As I 
>>> recall, not a full frame bag, but something like a half-frame bag that 
>>> would run the length of the top tube. Can't find any evidence of it, 
>>> though. Am I imagining things or is something like this in the pipeline? 
>>> Would love to know more details if so.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: COVID face mask that lets you breathe and doesn't cause glasses to fog?

[Collin A]

I use these masks on my commute to work (which I can just telework, but 
whatever) and on longer rides where during nice weekend rides when folks 
are out and about.  Very exuberant colors and patterns, but it helps to add 
some color and fun every now and again.
https://lesleyevers.com/collections/masks  

It breathes well and has a good nose crimp to form to your face. Keeps my 
glasses from fogging up, mostly. Adjustable ear straps as well.

These are the only ones that I have tried that prevent fogging, but are 
difficult to breathe when exercising (or walking the 12 flights of stairs 
to my office when I am at work)
https://www.biliomask.com/shop  

Happy Shopping,
Collin, another day and another protest at the capitol, in Sacramento


On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 2:10:42 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Can anyone suggest one, preferably one that is easy on/off, or at least 
> easy to slip down when solitary and up when in public? I've been using 
> basic cloth masks and (1) they're suffocating under any exertion, (2) they 
> fog my shades, (3) the ear loops detach easily from your ears, so slipping 
> them down often pulls them off.
>
> I am quite prepared to learn that the entire official protocol for 
> infection avoidance is bunkum, and I am heartily disposed to believe that 
> my political leaders are both inept and corrupt, or at least driven 
> principally by self interest, but the situation is serious enough that I am 
> willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and wear masks around others, 
> especially since some others seem panicky if you don't.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Real Maintenance

[Collin A]

I personally tend to keep a good eye on the bikes and just change/clean 
things on an ongoing basis, often around 1/month. I've done this often 
enough that a full rebuild or overhaul of any component on my bike takes 
less than 1 hr., assuming I have spares on hand, which I try to.

Frame saver application while your frame is all disassembled would be a 
worth while effort - I try to do this on annual basis for my bikes, but 
that's only when I ride in the rain a bunch, otherwise its about every 
other year.

It might be worth checking for play on both the wheels and bottom brackets, 
even though they are seaead units. Make sure the wheels are in your frame 
and try to move them side to side while grabbing the tire/rim, if it moves 
a lot, time to replace the bearings. Same with the BB, grab the arms of the 
cranks and try to rock them side to side, excessive movement = no good 
anymore. This is not relevant if you have C bearings, it would just mean 
some minor adjustments  are needed.

Whenever I do a drivetrain overhaul I also make sure to check the 
derailleur pulley bushings/bearings.

Looks like you have a fun project ahead of you!

Cheers,
Collin in Sac
On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 3:12:21 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

>
>
> It’s that time.
>
> I got my Sam in 2015, and as of yesterday I have put 5000 miles on it.  
> I’ve also made my yearly 1275 mile goal, so it is time to take it down for 
> real maintenance.
> I’m starting this thread for advice/discussion about what “real 
> maintenance” means.
>
> Every year I thoroughly wash and wax the bike frame.  I clean and degrease 
> the chain, chainrings, and cassette, and rotate the tires.
> I put Phil Tenacious oil on the derailleur mechs, RocRide All-Purpose on 
> the chain (twice a year for this), and replace any batteries like the 2032 
> in my computer.  I check the brake pads (I’ve had to replace a set once), 
> make sure the headset doesn’t have any play, check all bolts, adjust the 
> cables, and… that’s it.
>
> The bottom bracket and front and rear hubs are sealed units and not making 
> any noises.  The chain checker says the chain is less than half stretched.  
> Bar end shifting (friction front, index rear) seems to work just fine.  I 
> don’t really stress my Sam.
>
> My thoughts are: tear it down, have the LBS check the wheels for true, 
> replace the tires and tubes, and lube the cables with Finish Line Dry.  
> Then put it all back together after inspecting and lubricating the parts as 
> normal, and ride on.
>
> What am I missing?  Does anyone have a different maintenance for that kind 
> of mileage?  I’ve got a tool set used to build up four frames, so I’m not 
> worried about tearing everything apart if it is warranted.  But I’m 
> curious.  What do you do?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What? No bikes at RBW?

[Collin A]

Its a bummer that you have to know you want the bike, the correct size, and 
know when it will be released, all without doing a test ride on a $1500+ 
frame. I was lucky when I bought my first Riv that I was able to test ride 
a Hunqapillar, Clem, and Sam to figure out size and feel. Seems like those 
days are over, which sucks for the consumer, but great for Riv I guess.

Cheers,
Collin, formerly within walking distance of Riv at my first job, now in 
Sacramento

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:46:33 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Demand is nice but I'm not sure it's good that they can't keep up with it. 
> You can't sell bikes you don't have. 
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:26:54 PM UTC-8 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> Anyone else notice that bikes are mostly out of stock at RBW? I'm not 
>> sure if that's a good thing (they're successfully selling everything) or 
>> bad thing (they're not keeping up with demand.
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek
>>
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[RBW] Re: My new 26" wheeled drop bar Atlantis

[Collin A]

Brilliant hack, how much material did you have to remove while drilling? 
Just a good old fashioned cordless drill get the job done?

Also, beautiful bike. Looks like a super fun and capable ride, enjoy!

Collin in Sacramento

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-8 dave_manze...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> I am just about done putting this together and am really excited. I 
> purchased a 50cm frame from the garage sale section this summer. It is a 
> little smaller than what they would recommend for my 84 PBH, but given the 
> long top tube and my plan to use drop bars I felt pretty confident it would 
> work. I was attracted to the 26" wheeled Atlantis as such long running 
> model and I was interested in running the excellent 2.3" rat trap pass 
> tires. The other new thing I did was modify my TRP RRL levers to be used 
> with V-brakes. The strange shape of the lever allows an additional set of 
> holes to be drilled doubling the lever arm - it works great. I am still 
> experimenting with the stem lengths, but wanted to share my project.

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[RBW] Re: FS: CrustxNitto 31.8 faceplate quill Stem

[Collin A]

Sold!

Happy Sunday,
Collin in Sac

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:12:12 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It's not the beautiful Riv fillet version, but it will get the job done if 
> you are hoping to try some 31.8 bars on your 1" threaded bicycle.
>
> Ordered it back in August, but too short for me after more cockpit 
> fiddling...
>
> $80 shipped would be awesome!
>
> This one: https://www.crustbikes.com/products/nitto-31-8-30-60mm-stem/
> Dull Chrome, 15 deg, 60mm length
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7CUyL2s1WZGP7AM7
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, near the Sacramento capitol with the "stop the steal" Protest, 
> christ...
>

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[RBW] FS: CrustxNitto 31.8 faceplate quill Stem

[Collin A]

Hi All,

It's not the beautiful Riv fillet version, but it will get the job done if 
you are hoping to try some 31.8 bars on your 1" threaded bicycle.

Ordered it back in August, but too short for me after more cockpit 
fiddling...

$80 shipped would be awesome!

This one: https://www.crustbikes.com/products/nitto-31-8-30-60mm-stem/
Dull Chrome, 15 deg, 60mm length

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7CUyL2s1WZGP7AM7

Cheers,
Collin, near the Sacramento capitol with the "stop the steal" Protest, 
christ...

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[RBW] Re: Riv "unprepped" frames

[Collin A]

I recently built up one of their "unprepped" frames.

The headset cups are installed, but you'll need to insert the cartridge 
bearings and seals (no tools needed) on them and then install the threaded 
fork and nut (wrench needed).

BB is already installed, but i'd pop it out, grease the threads and 
re-install.

You'll also have to attach the headbadge yourself, don't forget it if you 
plan to pick up the frame!

Good Luck!
Collin in Sactown

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:30:28 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Hi, does anyone know if the headset bearings are pressed into the frame on 
> a Riv "unprepped" frame?  The prep service mentions installing the fork and 
> adjusting the headset.  It's unclear on the website 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/i-want-my-riv-frame-prepped>
> .
> I don't have a headset bearing press, so that seems like the only reason 
> I'd get the frame prepped. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Clem H? SF Craigslist

[Collin A]

Wow, there is a lot going on there...not only is it carbon, but it has full 
suspension and an electric assist throttle, sheesh.

Collin in Sactown

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 8:29:06 AM UTC-7 BRETT ROBINSON wrote:

> Anyone missing a Clem H? If not, anyone want to snag this for me and ship 
> to socal...
>
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-big-ass-carbon-gravel-bike/7222593216.html
>
>
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[RBW] Re: In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Collin A]

Is the goal to supply under-served populations with tools and equipment 
they would otherwise not be able to afford, or to have a more broad impact 
on society's treatment of certain populations? I'm not trying to get 
philosophical, just that the difference between the two will impact whether 
it's better to fund Riv's BRP or something like the ACLU. 

Regardless, selling the parts and donating the funds is the easiest and 
most effective way to go I think. You could always ask Riv if they want the 
old parts I guess?

Good Luck,
Collin in Sacramento

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:46:10 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components 
> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars, 
> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market, 
> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal 
> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike 
> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching 
> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that 
> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to 
> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice 
> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving 
> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to 
> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate 
> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all 
> here first.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Collin A]

I am about to start a wheel rebuild (for the first time) by replacing the 
existing rims with a lighter rim of a similar ERD. Should be pretty 
straight forward, but...I'll let you know how it goes, ha! Also interested 
in other's points of view on wheel builds as well.

Cheers,
Collin in Sac

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:25:58 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:

> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that 
> I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge 
> too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I 
> can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride 
> in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>
> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a 
> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once 
> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds 
> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>
> Points of view encouraged.
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Collin A]

Not cheaper, but the simworks flat 65 ( 
https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/flat-65?variant=5250514812957)
 
worked on my Joe and look nice. It took some dimpling at the chainstays, 
seatstays and fork crown, but they work well enough (and they were 
leftovers from my clem). Gives plenty of room underneath for some 650x50 
cazaderos.

I just mounted them for the "rain" California is expecting at the end of 
the week.

Cheers,
Collin, frantically rain dancing, in Sacramento
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as 
> is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just 
> because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which 
> would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the clearances of 
> the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I suspect the 
> V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: KOMA bike light or similar?

[Collin A]

Crust has them, but in purple? Seems weird...

https://www.crustbikes.com/products/blue-lug-select-koma-lights/ 

Collin in "Unhealthy" Sacramento 

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 2:19:27 PM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Aluma-lites are quite similar, and come in a variety of body colors. 
>
> Rear:   https://tinyurl.com/y3kz92g4
>
> Set of front and back: https://tinyurl.com/y65v4cfv
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 11:55:05 AM UTC-5, Ray wrote:
>>
>> Apologies if this is off-topic, but I thought since Riv and Blue Lug are 
>> so closely tied, it might be appropriate.
>>
>> Blue Lug recently advertised these KOMA lights that they are selling on 
>> the global site: 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-black.html
>>
>> I really appreciate the simple design and the concept. I've found that 
>> most bike tail lights attach to the seatpost. This doesn't work for me most 
>> of the time because I like to use a saddle bag that would cover the light. 
>> I know they also make clip-on lights that can attach to the saddle bag, but 
>> I also don't love this solution because I've found that the angle of the 
>> light can change pretty easily without a more fixed point and doesn't 
>> always direct the light the way you might want. 
>>
>> Anyway, the BL light looks great to me but the shipping cost is just too 
>> much to stomach. If anyone knows of other vendors that sell these I'd love 
>> to find them, but I suspect these are made specifically for BL as my 
>> searching hasn't returned them anywhere else. I was wondering if any of you 
>> knew of something similar or if you've found another solution?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ray
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Collin A]

Looks like your Sam if I'm being honest

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Gah, I am so bad at keeping a bike low key and cheap. Bought the bike for 
> $250, put $1000 in parts on it immediately, and have a full dynamo setup on 
> order too. But then I'm done right?!  
>
> [image: 20191004054111.JPG]
>
> [image: 20191004054236.JPG]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Collin A]

I vote "pomegranate" as the color

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 4:54:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
> funny.
>
> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
> is, well, here...
>
> Must be a trick of the light,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Roadini day + request for a good looking crankset recommendation

[Collin A]

You can't go wrong with the Riv SILV3R crankset. Looks good, shifts 10 
speed, affordable replacement rings, and standard everything. However, the 
times I have gone 1x i've used a dedicated 1x chainring (wolftooth) so I 
cannot comment on that.

You can get the 44/34/24 triple version and like a 30t 74 BCD (to setup as 
44/30). That would set you back $260 BUT you'd have extra chainrings if you 
want to mess around with different gearing.

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 1:52:57 PM UTC-7 Ash wrote:

> One key crankset requirement I missed- my large chainring is going to be 
> smaller than the typical road setup.  44t if I decide on double and 36 or 
> 39t if I go with 1x10.
>
> On Monday, 14 September 2020 at 13:36:06 UTC-7 Ash wrote:
>
>> Btw, if you missed out on the Roadini sale, don't worry.  The Charlie H 
>> Gallop is going to be better.  After looking at a prototype I paused for a 
>> minute  and contemplated if I should skip the Roadini and wait for CHG 
>> instead.  I'd have easily gone CHG route if the wait was not 6-ish months.
>>
>> On Monday, 14 September 2020 at 13:32:14 UTC-7 Ash wrote:
>>
>>> Bought a Roadini frame in recent sale and put it together with various 
>>> 'spare' parts I had.  The handlebar is borrowed from the Susie for now. 
>>>  The wheels are from my other 'city bike' that used to be a road bike.
>>>
>>> It move so easily sometimes it feels like there's hidden pedal-assist in 
>>> this bike!   23lbs as shown. 
>>>
>>> Question 1: what 10 speed, single/double crankset would look nice (and 
>>> work/last well too) if I want to stay with the classic/silver looks?  
>>>
>>> Q2: Do road chainrings and cog sets lend themselves to a reliable 1x10 
>>> setup?  i.e., if I'm pending 3 hours uphill to the top of Mt. Hamilton 
>>> mostly in biggest and second biggest cogs, would it result in broken 
>>> chainring/cog tooth or chain slippage (due to cross-chain)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ash
>>>
>>> PS: the tire on the Roadini is Babyshoe Pass.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS: Garage Sale (Bosco, seatpost, schwalbe, dynaplug)

[Collin A]

Heyo,

Given the Unhealthy air in most of California right now (better than 
Hazardous!), I have been unable to ride my bikes and instead have been 
stewing on parts I have lying around. As such, here are some for sale. If 
you buy a few, I can combine shipping to save us both some money. Paypal 
preferred, contact collin michael 91 (no spaces) at google email.

Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/tL1pMX5KZgRJegQE7

*Schwalbe G-one Speed, 27.5 x 2.35:* One tire has maybe 200 miles on it, 
the other (used as a rear) has about 500 with maybe 1/4 of the micor-knob 
height worn down near the center. They were used tubeless and setup well on 
cliffhangers - *$70 shipped*

*Bosco CrMo Bars 55:* These came stock on my Clem and briefly lived on my 
partner's Homer. She has since switched to billie bars. They have some 
chips in the nickel (?) plating near the upper bends where I had some 
newbaums attached, but otherwise good - no crashes* - $30 + Actual shipping 
*(because they are a weird shape)

*Sunrace Linear Pull levers**: *Stock on the clem, but switched them out 
after about a year to get a set of levers without as much stack near the 
clamp area. One lever is a little loose, but they work well - *$15 shipped*

*Dynaplug Megapill*: Used, but obviously still works. There is one megaplug 
missing, but otherwise you have the full kit, even a cute little pouch! *$30 
shipped*

Kalloy 29.8 Seatpost, 300mm: Came with my 51 Appaloosa by accident, but 
luckily had a spare 26.8 sitting around. Never used - *$25 shipped*

*Origin 8 26.8 Seatpost - 400mm: *Tried this on my clem for about 50 miles 
while messing with the cockpit setup, didn't end up working - *$15 +actual 
shipping*

*Nitto Technomic 26.0 Stem, 11 cm*: Fixed up my dad's old trek from the 80s 
about 2 years ago and this has been sitting in my parts box, he ended up 
with a dirt drop. Yours for *$20 shipped*

Cheers,
Collin "Gettin' real tired of 2020" in Sacramento

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[RBW] Re: Ever get pulled over by police while on your bike?

[Collin A]

Hooboy, only once and it was quite a strange instance.

It was 10 years ago in college, I had gotten home from an evening run that 
was very hot and warranted tossing my shirt along the bike path (still not 
sure why I did that). I decided to ride back on my beater to retrieve my 
shirt but at this point it was dark, I didn't have lights, I had no shirt 
on, and was wearing short shorts. 

I get to where I tossed my shirt and a cop comes barreling onto the side of 
the bike path/sidewalk and nearly hits me; No sirens, but using the 1000 
lux flashlight right into my eyes. He gives me the speal of riding at night 
without lights (after asking what the hell I was doing) and saying "I'm not 
sure where you are from, but that's not how we do things around here," but 
luckily did not issue me a ticket. Anywho, I grab my shirt and walk about a 
mile home in the dark. I haven't tossed a shirt on a run since...

Collin in Sacramento

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> I was out today riding one of my usual routes. I had just gotten back on 
> the bike (my Bleriot) after stopping to adjust the angle of my Albatross 
> bars. I was pedaling and all of a sudden out of my mirror I saw some lights 
> flashing and I pulled over. I got off the bike as a very young officer 
> walked over to me. I asked him if I had done something wrong, maybe riding 
> to fast (yeah I know being a wiseass is not really a good things). He asked 
> me if I had just come from a street which was one I was actually heading 
> towards.. I told him no and explained where I had ridden. It seems some guy 
> asked a lady for directions, there mush have been more to it, he was on a 
> bike, and I fit the description I was told. I was wearing  a short sleeve 
> gray sweat shirts as it was an unusually chilly day today and a Rivendell 
> cycling cap from years ago. Another officer arrived smiling, he was the 
> officer in charge. I put up my hands and said it wasn't me and he started 
> to laugh.He explained to me they were looking for a guy in a gray members 
> only jacket and a baseball cap with dark hair, my hair is silver/white.
>
> We talked for a few minutes, they apologized and I said no need. I went 
> back on my ride and now was on that street wondering if a woman would come 
> out of her house chasing me.  
>
> In a way I had a good laugh but I wonder what this guy did to make this 
> woman call the police. This was not my town but 2 towns away in CT while I 
> live in MA. So something was up.
>
> So I wonder if any of you have ever been pulled over on your bike?
>
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: Trade 50cm Atlantis for 51cm Sam

[Collin A]

Oh no! What prompted the departure of the new Atlantis? Good luck with the 
trade, worst case you could always sell the frame and pickup a new Sam next 
month.

Collin in Sacramento

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 12:29:50 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> New, ridden 3 times 50cm Atlantis for 51cm Sam.  
>
> The Atlantis has had  framesaver applied by me. 
>
> I only need the frame and fork, headset, BB.  
>
> We can discuss some parts if you’d like.  
>
> Contact me off list @ jrstern11 (at) gmail. 
>

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[RBW] Re: 3 Rivendells

[Collin A]

I occasionally ride my Partner's MIT homer (47.5, too small for me) on my 
commute, so I cannot comment on it thoroughly, but it is a lively bike as 
it compares to my (now sold) Clem and would be an excellent companion  to 
the Atlantis. The liveliness you describe for your bleriot with alba bars 
matches with what I have noticed with the billie bars that are on there. I 
think that is mostly a function of where your hands are relative to the 
steering axis.

The main functional difference appears to be a smaller seatpost diam for 
the Sam and v-studs/canti-posts. The geometries based on bikeinsights seem 
almost identical.

The paint on the Homer is a wonderful color, btw. Its a beautiful blue with 
just a hint of sparkle that you only see during sunny days.

Also, looks like Riv is sold out of the 51 homers, if that impacts your 
decision at all.

Cheers,
Collin in "GOOD AQI" Sacramento

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 2:53:51 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> I know Joe B has opinions on this as he has owned at least 2 of them.  
>
> My Bleriot is a tad big, not terrible but a tad too high for me.  It also 
> has very lively handling, especially with Albatross bars.  To counter this 
> a bit I hold them near the curves which puts more weight on the front end 
> and is very comfortable for me.  My Atlantis is being built up right know 
> and will be ready tomorrow.  I have considered replacing the Bleriot with a 
> Sam or Homer.  Group member Rich has given me some good information, the 
> Sam will be a tad smaller (1cm) in 51cm and will be a definite fit, the 
> Homer will probably be fine.  I want the bike should I do this that will be 
> the most comfort and stable.  The chain stay difference is a couple of CM I 
> think.  Any thoughts? 
>
> Thanks
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Frame/Fork, Mustard

[Collin A]

Sold!

Happy Sunday,
Collin

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 2:01:01 PM UTC-7 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> PM sent
>
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 1:06:08 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> PM sent
>>
>> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 12:53:01 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Everyone,
>>>
>>> Recently got a Joe that fits me much better than the clem that was just 
>>> a smidge too big for me. As a result (and being told by my partner that 
>>> there is only room for 3 bikes in our apartment), I have to post the Clem 
>>> for sale. I have some other bits as well (bosco bars, 26.0 stem, 0 offset 
>>> seatpost), if interested. Let me know if you have any questions!
>>>
>>> Album Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yS3UTYNWnAn6Qe1v5
>>> Asking price: *$600 *(local sale for preferred, but I have a box to 
>>> ship in case)
>>>
>>> Items of Note:
>>>
>>>- I am the original owner
>>>- Comes with Frame, Fork, Headset (bearings still super smooth), 
>>>Seatpost (scratched up, but is a 26.8), brand new 110 Shimano BB
>>>- No dents or dings
>>>- Plenty of paint chips, the most notable is D/S BB when my 
>>>derailleur overshifted during a climb. All have been sealed with clear 
>>> nail 
>>>polish and most areas are photographed
>>>- Just frame-saved the bike with boeshield
>>>- Cable guide and seat cluster nut/bolt is included
>>>- Trying to figure out if I can modify my framebag for the Joe, 
>>>otherwise I would be including that for sale as an additional $120
>>>
>>> Quirks:
>>>
>>>- Seatpost lug is just a teensy bit oversized, so depending where 
>>>the seatpost is clamped, you may experience some slippage. Current 
>>> options 
>>>are either use a 27.0 seatpost or order a seatpost from riv and have the 
>>>knurl the area where it will clamp (what I ended up doing when I owned 
>>> it 
>>>and experienced no slippage after the modification). Not ideal, I know...
>>>- This is the 2017 run (2nd gen I believe), so the bike is a bit 
>>>taller than the last run of the frames.
>>>
>>> The Pitch:
>>> The Clem is a great all-rounder, and lives up to the phrase on the 
>>> downtube "A tough bike to love." It served as my daily commuter, single 
>>> track shredder, MTB race bike, dirt tourer and general errand bike; It 
>>> accomplished all of those tasks with ease. However, the most enjoyable way 
>>> I had it setup was as a rigid MTB, no racks, fenders, etc. with some plush 
>>> 2.25 tires and the handlebars setup a little more aggressively.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in "Unhealthy for Sensitive Groups" Sacramento 
>>>
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