Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
DJKick - great news. What version are you running, and on what OS ? Is this the latest nightly, or proper release ? 7.3.0 is working fine for me, but I'd rather be on the latest build. -- gingerneil gingerneil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Very good news, since latest update, I do not have the skipping track issue anymore !! They finally fixed the issue and that's great ! -- DJKick DJKick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46300 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Went back to 7.3.0 and have had no skipping. I dont know what has changed since then, but for now I'm back to 2008 ! -- gingerneil gingerneil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I've been having this same problem for a while now. I installed the latest nightly on Windows Home Server yesterday, but this did not fix it. My music is generally purchased from iTunes, so tends to be AAC. I have tried other builds from 7.5 upwards, but have the same issue. Tracks skips randomly - some will play fine, others will skip within a few seconds of the start, or half way through. I'll have a go with some earlier ones having spotted the download page posted above for all previous versions. I'm sure I didnt have this in 6.x - but I will try from 7.3.4 and work my way downwards. Both devices I am having issues with are SB2, one is wired and one is wireless. Everything comes through fine when I play remotely using stream.mp3 across the interwebs. -- gingerneil gingerneil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Well there have been mentioned many problems and solutions here already. I think there is one common thing in all of them: The user who buys the Touch expects, that this will work on his home wifi or lan network and his music files, as his home network and music files have always worked for computers with no problem. But it turns out, that the squeezebox system is more sensitive that pc's and other software among themselves E. G. - FLAC files that run normally on other software players would not necessarily do so over the squeezebox network. - Unltra short network interruptions would cause music interruptions, what would not necessarily happen on software players on a pc. ... there might be more... I think, the normal user should be made aware of all that and helped with a simple trouble shooting guide! As it remains the promise of Logitech: You buy the Touch, put it into your home network that works otherwise, and the the Touch will just play your favorite music... No mention there, that the Touch is more likely to run into problems than other ways of playing music over the network. So at least, the paying user should be helped with a simple solution, avoiding him to dig deep into forums and sometimes cryptic technical answers. Who takes care??? Cheers! -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
lcrim;640145 Wrote: . I can play internet radio from the local server but the players show as not connected to msb.com This is correct and normal. Your players can only be connected to one server at a time. If the players are connected to SBS on your PC then MySB.com is correctly reporting them as not connected. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
When a player loses its connection to the server (even a fraction of a second) after a reconnect the next track is played. You might activate remote access to your Touch, connect with SSH and look into the /var/log/messages file. Every disconnect and reconnect will appear in there, so have a look after you experienced skipping again. -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
lcrim;640013 Wrote: . One other thing, SBS can't ping mysqueezebox.com, can ping and make an http (browser) connection from that PC but not from the SBS running there. Larry Is SBS running on a PC? Try disabling all anti virus firewalls, reboot SBS, try MySB again. Will your players connect directly to and play from MySB? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
SBS is running on this PC, as I said. Neither turning off the Windows FW (there are exceptions already in place for both ports affected here) nor disableing AVG virus scan fixed the pinging issue. Yes I can play internet radio both from msb.com or the local server, but don't care for low bitrate music playback. Meanwhile the bug affecting playback of random songs still occurs, not grossly but it shouldn't happen at all. thanks for your effort anyway. Larry -- lcrim lcrim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
During random song play only, a track ocassionally still ending prematurely and skipping to next track. My entire library is flac, predominantly 16/44.1 but also some 24/96 but has only skipped ahead on RB rips. In the server log, SBS shows no errors. I do run two Touches from the same server. When the entire CD is played, no problems. Running SBS 7.6 and firmware r9444. Reinstalled server version and firmware but still happening. Not often but it still happens. Never the same track always different ones. One other thing, SBS can't ping mysqueezebox.com, can ping and make an http (browser) connection from that PC but not from the SBS running there. Larry -- lcrim lcrim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
The problem has nothing to do with wireless connections. My setup is just a Touch and a HDD connected in USB. The HDD has its own power supply. No connection to any network. Just using the internal Squeezebox Server. As said many times it is completely random, and not repeatable (meaning if one end of a track is skipped, if you rewind it will probably pass right the next time). However it happens very often. It happens for me with Apple Lossless and MP3. It has nothing to do with encoding since it is random and not repeatable. So there is a problem with the squeezebox for sure. At least with the internal squeezebox server 7.5.4. Since I don't know how to downgrade I am stuck with this buggy software until the developers handle this bug. It has probably something to do with the handling of the audio buffer that bufferizes the next track while playing the current one. Sometimes instead of buffering it just starts to play the next track (but that is just a guess). -- DJKick DJKick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46300 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
All SBS versions, past and present, are here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ Touch requires SBS 7.5 or later. Connect your Touch to your newly downloaded SBS server on your PC or Mac, then go to Touch Settings Advanced Software Update Whether this will fix your problem I cannot say, but that is how you can update or downgrade your player firmware to any applicable firmware version. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
garym;638731 Wrote: I understand your frustration. But do keep in mind that developers wouldn't necessarily be listening here as this is a forum that is strictly users helping other users. If you want to get the developers' attention, you should post info at bugzilla: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ If you want official logitech attention you should post at their official squeezebox forums here: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox/ct-p/squeezebox Good luck! Thanks I have made progress, I logged my problem with the support people and I have located the problem in my wireless connection namely Apple Airport Express, I am scrapping it, they have this problem with signal strength and sensitiviety to interference, I finished up running an 20m Ethernet cable through the house and Voila no problems, hope this helps. Quotable1 -- Quotable1 Quotable1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47898 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
... here and elsewhere, where their users aka clients aka family feeders are. Its not about the formality, where the questions are posted. Its about clients who have spent money to buy a device, that comes along with lots of promises. And nowhere on the box in the shop there was the phrase count with counter-less bugs that may even skip your tracks... However, for me, the tracks I (re-)encode myself, work. I have not continued with extensive testing, but it appears that in my case, for the time being, it's ok. However, this does still not mean that there is no problem with the squeezebox. Just keep in mind, that Windows codec over several Windows Players play those HDTracks flacs with no interruption... and the flac decoder decodes them correctly (if not, I would not be able to re-encode them...). So... Squeezebox is the only player/decoder that does not understand those flacs. So, wherever the fault is, it's for sure, there is indeed room for improvement... -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
diego;638507 Wrote: Hi there everybody! So, there is news. Potentially good news. I upgraded everything (newest Beta on server, newest Software on Touch), on the server it did a clean install... the Server forgot all my settings and most annoyingly, my favorites. However, the issue of tracks getting cut remained unchanged. I started to repeatedly listen to the same tracks and figured out, that a couple of my tracks get cut, but always at the same moment. In on track, for instance on track: 1. Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto No.1 / Lang Lang , Chicago Symphony Orchestra / Daniel Barenboim, original FLAC as downloaded from HDTracks: After 17 minutes 31 seconds. The same track played over Network (stored on the server in the basement), played on my Notebook upstairs, on Winamp did NOT get cut. However, I re-encoded the FLAC, using LameXP (FLAC input and decoding, FLAC encoding at lowest compression setting, gives almost the same file size). Result: No interruption anymore! So I don't actually know, WHO is to blame: The Flac does play without problem on a computer, and it gets interrupted on the Squeezebox. So it's the squeezebox. But the same track encoded at home does play fine. So is it HDTracks that are to blame for their encoding? It doesn't actually matter too much to me, as long as there IS a solution... A bit annoying however, if I have to re-encode all those purchased FLAC files. Anyone else sharing this issue, who has tried re-encoding the FLACS? BTW: I use Klaus aka soundcheck's mods and I am pretty happy that the problem has nothing to do with those nice sound enhancements (this is just an off-topic remark, please don't reply on that, I know that not everybody shares the same experiences regarding those mods). Oh yeah - you are having the problem ONLY with HDTracks? - this is a well-known problem with HDTracks encoding of FLAC files. They do something really weird to their FLAC files... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
The developers are not still listening here, as said above, these skips are still happening, irrespective on whether you are on 7.54 or 7.6, Flac or Wav or whatever, it started happening when I upgraded to 7.54 and it is totally random and not the same tracks will skip, the skipping will appear early or late, long or short tracks. I downloaded 7.6 beta, not a bit of difference, just that in 7.6 I lost all the artwork and I could not get it back...! So back to 7.54 at least I could see the artwork. You know this did not happen when I was on the original 7.2 whatever. I spent 12 years working at a very high level in a IT company and with teams of developers, I know how precious some become about the code they write and the fact they know more than us. It is indeed a black art in many respects. The one thing I did learn is that the end user should never be ignored, they ultimately pay you wages, and invariably they are not wrong! Look how many people are reading these posts, if they are as frustrated as me they are at the point of ditching the Touch and getting something else where the software is a bit more robust. -- Quotable1 Quotable1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47898 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Quotable1;638727 Wrote: The developers are not still listening here I understand your frustration. But do keep in mind that developers wouldn't necessarily be listening here as this is a forum that is strictly users helping other users. If you want to get the developers' attention, you should post info at bugzilla: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ If you want official logitech attention you should post at their official squeezebox forums here: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox/ct-p/squeezebox Good luck! -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Hi there everybody! So, there is news. Potentially good news. I upgraded everything (newest Beta on server, newest Software on Touch), on the server it did a clean install... the Server forgot all my settings and most annoyingly, my favorites. However, the issue of tracks getting cut remained unchanged. I started to repeatedly listen to the same tracks and figured out, that a couple of my tracks get cut, but always at the same moment. In on track, for instance on track: 1. Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto No.1 / Lang Lang , Chicago Symphony Orchestra / Daniel Barenboim, original FLAC as downloaded from HDTracks: After 17 minutes 31 seconds. The same track played over Network (stored on the server in the basement), played on my Notebook upstairs, on Winamp did NOT get cut. However, I re-encoded the FLAC, using LameXP (FLAC input and decoding, FLAC encoding at lowest compression setting, gives almost the same file size). Result: No interruption anymore! So I don't actually know, WHO is to blame: The Flac does play without problem on a computer, and it gets interrupted on the Squeezebox. So it's the squeezebox. But the same track encoded at home does play fine. So is it HDTracks that are to blame for their encoding? Doesn't actually matter to me, as ther IS a solution... A bit annoying however, if I have to re-encode all those purchased FLAC files. Anyone else sharing this issue, who has tried re-encoding the FLACS? BTW: I use Klaus aka soundcheck's mods and I am pretty happy that the problem has nothing to do with those nice sound enhancements (this is just an off-topic remark, please don't reply on that, I know that not everybody shares the experiences regarding those mods). -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
diego;638507 Wrote: Hi there everybody! So, there is news. Potentially good news. I upgraded everything (newest Beta on server, newest Software on Touch), on the server it did a clean install... the Server forgot all my settings and most annoyingly, my favorites. However, the issue of tracks getting cut remained unchanged. I started to repeatedly listen to the same tracks and figured out, that a couple of my tracks get cut, but always at the same moment. In on track, for instance on track: 1. Tchaikovsky: Piano Concerto No.1 / Lang Lang , Chicago Symphony Orchestra / Daniel Barenboim, original FLAC as downloaded from HDTracks: After 17 minutes 31 seconds. The same track played over Network (stored on the server in the basement), played on my Notebook upstairs, on Winamp did NOT get cut. However, I re-encoded the FLAC, using LameXP (FLAC input and decoding, FLAC encoding at lowest compression setting, gives almost the same file size). Result: No interruption anymore! So I don't actually know, WHO is to blame: The Flac does play without problem on a computer, and it gets interrupted on the Squeezebox. So it's the squeezebox. But the same track encoded at home does play fine. So is it HDTracks that are to blame for their encoding? It doesn't actually matter too much to me, as long as there IS a solution... A bit annoying however, if I have to re-encode all those purchased FLAC files. Anyone else sharing this issue, who has tried re-encoding the FLACS? BTW: I use Klaus aka soundcheck's mods and I am pretty happy that the problem has nothing to do with those nice sound enhancements (this is just an off-topic remark, please don't reply on that, I know that not everybody shares the same experiences regarding those mods). excellent. And I have heard of other experiences with HDTracks that were solved with reencoding the FLAC files. If 24/96, I've read that compression no higher than 5 is best. Easy enough to do in bulk (foobar2000 or dbpoweramp) can handle this and retain all metadata, etc. A few mouseclicks, and even if 50,000 files, you can run overnight or over the course of a day and done -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Dear Phil, thanks, I will do the upgrade and enable logging and see what happens. I am not taking notes all the time, but I think, it happens every time I play a long file. What is for sure, is, that it happens as well on normal-res CD rips (44.1/16), as long as they are of a certain length. Well I still think the problem does not appear to be so rare, at least one gets quite a couple of views and answers to this thread... In my opinion it's about time that we find out where the problem is. Do you think the problem is more likely to be on the server or on the Touch side? -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
lcrim;637847 Wrote: It happens w/ 7.6 as well. This is not the solution. Larry Have you checked in the log file (server.log) for any error messages? Definitely doesn't happen for me on xp or win 7 with 20 minute+ 24/96 files... (of which I have many). You should enable player.streaming logging option=DEBUG (settings - advanced - logging) and then post the relevant part of server.log here. Whatever your problem is, it is unusual/rare and almost certainly something to do with your Windows setup/machine. Do you get this problem with EVERY long hi-res file you play? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Phil Leigh;637686 Wrote: Upgrade to 7.6... It happens w/ 7.6 as well. This is not the solution. Larry -- lcrim lcrim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Hi everybody For me, the problem occurs only on long tracks after playing at least 10 minutes, usually more. That explains largely, why the issue affects only certain users: Who limits the use of the Touch to pop music will be very rarely confronted to such long tracks. However, it should be possible to decently listen to classical music with the Touch. Right? Testing is extremely annoying, as one has to listen those 20 minutes entirely to be sure, if the issue occurs or not. I use Touch with Firmware Version 7.5.4-r9408 and the Server Version 7.5.4 - r32171 on Windows XP. I listen mainly to FLAC files. One of my favourite tracks, where the interruption almost always occurs, is a 22 minutes long 24bit / 96 khz FLAC file. How can this be solved??? It is really dramatic to get cut in the middle of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1!!! THANKS FOR ANY USEFUL HELP Btw: There is a user who seems to have managed to solve the problem! Maybe he can help our developpers...: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=626228 -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
... this thread has 3,491 views... and 53 replies... so it seems to bother quite a number of users, in particular, if we consider that only a few of us actually come to the forum to look for solutions! Last time a Senior Member (yes thanks, at least Phil DID...) posted a reply was a year ago!! This tiny box is sold to us for nice money with the remark that it is made to satisfy audiophile users, and it does not allow me to listen to long tracks? So please, could someone competent decently take care of the issue??? THANKS!! -- diego diego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Upgrade to 7.6... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I have encountered a similar issue as per this post http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88284 Only happens occasionally but having songs end abruptly and then next selection starting is annoying. Only occurs in random mode, and only during that playback session. Using WinXP Pro as server OS. All connections wired. Sending PCM to Touch from flac library. When playing same selection during playback of full CD, no truncation. info: Version: 7.6.0 - r32302 @ Tue Apr 19 02:06:15 PDT 2011 Hostname: bhen284 Server IP Address: 192.168.1.50 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 586 Perl Version: 5.10.0 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.32_02 (sqlite 3.7.5) Firmware: 7.6.0-r9444 This isn't the end of the world but still shouldn't happen. Any ideas why this is happening? Larry -- lcrim lcrim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I have just realized my problems were the fact that I had downloaded IE9 as an update on my vista equipped PC. I was having trouble with IE9 with what I thought was a Java problem, as the Java applets on some sites were not showing. In frustration I disabled most of the Add-ons and reset the security to the default setting. The IE9 then went much faster, displayed all the Javascript on sites and then I realised tracks on the Squeezebox were not skipping...I do not know whether this is just a coincidence or another problem we can blame on Microsoft. I hope this helps some people I may not be on the right track but all the more knowledge we have to assimilate. Ajwaldo -- ajwaldo ajwaldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
As with everyone else I am having this annoying problem, but I was not having it until I went from pure wireless connection to an Apple airport express used as a bridge with an ethernet connection to the touch. I did also load the latest software at the same time, which was 2 weeks ago. Incidently the sound is improved, better bass more dynamic overall. AJWaldo -- ajwaldo ajwaldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
ajwaldo;633701 Wrote: As with everyone else I am having this annoying problem, but I was not having it until I went from pure wireless connection to an Apple airport express used as a bridge with an ethernet connection to the touch. I did also load the latest software at the same time, which was 2 weeks ago. Incidently the sound is improved, better bass more dynamic overall. AJWaldo I am using Windows Vista SP2 not Windows 7 -- ajwaldo ajwaldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
This problem is driving me nuts !! Please help ! Has this been forwarded to Logitech already? Is there a case on this matter? All of us that have this issue should make sure that Logitech knows about it and fixes it!! -- DJKick DJKick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46300 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Facing the exact same problem here. Running SC 7.5.3 on a Qnap TS-112 and playing on a squeezebox 2 over wifi (84% wifi signal strength). It seems like the SB loses connection to the file it's playing, as it sometimes very shortly shows a message in the screen, saying can't open file from:... When running a wifi test the signal is stable, so this can't be the problem. Also I'm the onliest on wifi channel 11. This issue is getting more and more frustrating as there doesn't seem to be a clear solution for it! And I have no clue on what could be causing the problem. However, a gut-feeling is telling me it might be a file access right issue. I'll do some tests on this and post the results. -- Peetz To squeeze or not to sqeeze That's the question Peetz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Changing the file rights from 766 to 777 doen't seem to fix it. When playing the same album on my old setup (Qnap TS-101 with SS 6.3.1 there's no problems at all, each song is completed as it should. Next option: trash and total rescan of the music library -- Peetz To squeeze or not to sqeeze That's the question Peetz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12665 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
In fact I try what was just posted in the last message but it does not solve the issue. What is even worse is that it has nothing to do with the continuous reading in fact because sometimes, it happens at the end of the album : Sometimes, the last track of an album stop before the end at around 30s before the end. When reading again it does not happen. The problem is intermittent. But the problem is not caused by the fact that there is a subsequent track in the playlist. It can also happen at the end of a playlist. We need to force Logitech to solve this issue! If anyone has the same issue please post in this thread ! -- DJKick DJKick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46300 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Hi, I have exactly the same problem: running tinySBS with an USB attached drive, sometimes songs skip to the next track 30-40 seconds before they ends. I noticed that when the problem arise it is costant: from that moment any songs skips! To solve the problem I disconnect the USB disk (using the discconnect command before!) and reconnect the drive. Then wait until the scenning for new tracks is completed and no other operation is in progress. This way the problem disappears. It apperas again usually every 3-5 weeks (no more!) and often after new tracks are added, deleted or modified on the disk and listening is started during the rescan process (you should be able to do this but ). I want also to hilight that I'm using a 2,5 inch disk 400Gb Western Digital elements, usb powered, with thousands traks and 250Gb of other kind of files (video, foto, data): one of the worst thing to do with SBTouch but never had problems! -- valdemort valdemort's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40489 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I also have the same issues of the tracks skipping at around 30seconds before the end randomly. It happens a few times a day. My version of the FW is also 7.5.4-r9408 I rebuilt the library today and it happened again. I'm using Tiny SBS and a WD Elements 1.5 To USB HDD which is self powered. Very annoying because I'm a fan of techno/house where the music is often mixed and gapless ... We definitely need Logitech to solve this big issue!! -- DJKick DJKick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46300 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Yup - this issue crops up for me from time to time: the playing track will prematurely skip to the next track. I'm running Version: 7.5.4 - r32171 on OS X. -- johnnydarko www.digitalaudioreview.net.au johnnydarko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39987 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
johnnydarko: That's interesting. I upgraded to: SBS 7.5.4 - r32171 (Windows) Touch f/w 7.5.4-r9408 on 27/4/2011 (5 days ago as of the date of this post) and since then we have not observed a single track skip. As part of the upgrade I cleared and rebuilt the entire music library (no need to but I just did it anyway). This is not conclusive I would say but previously we would notice several skips every day so there does seem to have been some improvement. Whether it is teh new software, the library rebuild, the combination of both or some other factor I cannot say. -- ChrisJenkins ChrisJenkins's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Was there ever any definitive resolution to this issue? I have SBS 7.5.3.r31792 running on a high end Windows 7 64 bit system serving up a library of around 6000 ALAC encoded file to two SB Touch players (7.5.3-r9377). Network is wired GigaBit via a good switch over CAT6. Network tested and no problems found. I have enabled native ALAC streaming in SBS so that it does not transcode to MP3 when streaming to the Touch. Most of the time things are just fine but from time to time (several times a day) some track that is playing will suddenly skip on to the next track for no reason. Typically there may be 30 seconds or more remaining on the track when it skips to the next track. There is no pause when this happens. Crossfade is disabled on both Touch units. It does not seem related to specific files since at other times a file that 'skipped' will play fine all the way through. No messages in SBS log at times when this skipping happens. This is when playing from a playlist. Replaying the same playlist does not result in the same behaviour; different tracks may skip (or not) and tracks that skipped first time may play fine. Any ideas how to diagnose this? it really is getting quite irritating. Thanks. -- ChrisJenkins ChrisJenkins's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Phil Leigh;563878 Wrote: 7.5 and 7.6 are on different branches - try the latest 7.5.2 nightly... http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 I'm currently running 7.6 (with native ALAC in radio and touch, synchronised), yet are often experiencing this 'tracks finishing early problem'. Hence I'm wondering whether to move back to 7.5.2. Which I might do when it supports ALAC natively. Please advice! (or even better, resolve the issue in 7.6!) Version: 7.6.0 - r31580 @ Fri Dec 3 02:05:02 PST 2010 Operating system: Netgear RAIDiator - EN - utf8 Perl Version: 5.8.8 - sparc-linux Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.30_06 (sqlite 3.7.2) Squeezebox Radio, r9220, 2x Touch r9243 (1 Touch synchronised with radio) -- ernest_klaassen ernest_klaassen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I've also had this issue whereby the SBT stops playing the current track with about 30 seconds to go and jumps to the next track. I've got 30k files (mp3 and high bit rate wma) and am running with a local USB drive. The problem is intermittent. I've never completed a full scan successfully, it usually reports stopped due to a problem, although once it got to 99% scanning the albumart. Memory usage is reported as 76%. I have to say I've had numerous problems trying to get the SBT working with a stand alone USB HDD, in spite of spending hours trying and doing this sort of thing for a living. -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I called squeezebox support last week to re- report this problem. First they said this is the first they have heard of this problem after going the usual waste of time troubleshooting( reset,what kind of files,software update etc). He put me on hold for 10 min. GOOD NEWS ! THEY ARE WORKING ON A SOFTWARE UPDATE! Wow apparently just for me since I'm the only one having this problem. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
toby10;564373 Wrote: Connect Touch to full SBS on your computer, go to Settings Advanced Software Update I've spent countless hours tring to get this to work with no luck at all. After resetting the Touch software to version 7.5.1 and loading 7.5.2 on my PC, the PC no longer connects to the Touch. The touch however connects fine to my network and strams internet radio without a problem... and my PC can see everything on the network but the Touch. So in desperation I shut down the Touch, the cable modum and the wireless router... upon pluging in everything I found that the wireless won't reconnect to the internet. So I did a hard reset of the wireless and now I have to reconfigure my home network. Nothing but trouble since day one... -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
tony.s;50 Wrote: .. So in desperation I shut down the Touch, the cable modum and the wireless router... upon pluging in everything I found that the wireless won't reconnect to the internet. So I did a hard reset of the wireless and now I have to reconfigure my home network. Nothing but trouble since day one... You certainly have had your share of odd issues. :( There was just a recent thread in the Boom forum where someone had to completely go through the entire Boom network setup every time they unplugged their Boom and moved it to another part of their house, connecting to the same WiFi network router. They even had to reenter the SSID and encryption passphrase every time. Why their setup did not allow the Boom to function properly and just reconnect like most other Booms do is a mystery. My Boom always has, just as my Touch has never had your issues. There are just too many variables. Let's hope all is well after your network reboot reconfiguration. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
gellie;564002 Wrote: I have installed it on my Mac and see it when opening squeezbox server. However on my touch its still running 7.5.1 . How do i get the touch to install the update? Thx. Connect Touch to full SBS on your computer, go to Settings Advanced Software Update -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Can you describe your ALAC files? What was used to encode them? Are they standard 44.1/16 files? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
andyg;563842 Wrote: Can you describe your ALAC files? What was used to encode them? Are they standard 44.1/16 files? i'm not that techie just ripped all my own cds using apple lossless in itunes and then copied them to the external hard disk - i initially wondered if it could have been down to the settings on the hd which is set to go to sleep after 10 mins so I started timing the gaps incase it was every 10 mins its not some time 2 or 3 mins sometimes 15 but i don't think i have ever managed to get through a full album without it doing it at least once. i have tried just playing an album from start to finish and skips and also tried setting up playlist with ipeng and its skips when the tracks are in a random order most of my albums don't have artwork as its not pulled through from itunes - i have a few where i have manually saved the artwork when itunes couldn't find it and this artwork is displayed but the problems are not just assosicated with those albums with artwork -- matengawhat matengawhat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
The issue still happens to me under 7.6... wouldn't the fix in 7.5.2 have been carried foward. Also now that I'm. Using 7.6 how so I revert to 7.5.2? Thanks Tony -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I updated my firmware and it seems to be happening sporadically at this point. Some tracks it truncates, some it doesn't. I am also having an issue with the the first track of any CD dropping out after about 10 seconds. I think this thing just doesn't buffer well enough to handle ALAC files (not sure about other large files). The Touch just doesn't seem to have the memory it should to pull of what it is supposed to do. The fanboys on here can go on and on how it's unfair that us USB connector users are badmouthing the product, but plain and simple - this thing does not work well at all. I bought the Touch so that I didn't have to have a computer running constantly to use this type of device. That seems to be the only way this works as it should. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I have the problem, too, but with MP3-files. I have a library of just below 20K-MP3-files on an external USB-HDD (bus-powered, but it is a 1,8 pulling _very_ little energy) with enough spare space for the library. I haven't managed to get a full scan yet (always cancels with a non-verbose error message), ran into problems with the internal server stopping for no (obvious) reason (stopping playback) and so forth. I can say that I managed to play a full album like two times - apart from that, it was a very unpleasant experience until now. Internet radio works like a charm, tho. -- herrner herrner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39353 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Anyone still having this problem should install the latest 7.5.2 nightly release from here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 and retest playback of their Apple Lossy/Lossless files -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
tony.s;563478 Wrote: For what its worth, without quantitative evidence well never know just how wide spread, or not, this problem really is. I reported it back in April and someone else was kind enough to log it as a bug. That was 3 months ago http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 I just gave up trying, which is sad considering I bought the Touch because you could connect an external drive directly to it. Aside from some casual internet radio listening I dont have much use for the Touch. It has been a big letdown. Tony I've had this issue as well. I've found it somewhat discouraging to be honest. I've been using my Touch mostly with Rhapsody and internet radio. I didn't seem to have a problem when running SBS off my MacBook Pro, just directly USB connection to the Touch. People keep posting links to the update SBS software, but these are all for running off a computer/server, not Touch SBS software from what I can tell. Any issues I've had with Rhapsody, I would blame on Rhapsody. Using the Touch interface has less issues than streaming it on my MacBook Pro. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
metalbob;563604 Wrote: I've had this issue as well. I've found it somewhat discouraging to be honest. I've been using my Touch mostly with Rhapsody and internet radio. I didn't seem to have a problem when running SBS off my MacBook Pro, just directly USB connection to the Touch. People keep posting links to the update SBS software, but these are all for running off a computer/server, not Touch SBS software from what I can tell. Any issues I've had with Rhapsody, I would blame on Rhapsody. Using the Touch interface has less issues than streaming it on my MacBook Pro. The builtin server is part of the Touch firmware. So in order to get a new version of the builtin server you have to get a new firmware package for the Touch. Unfortunately I have not found a 7.5.2 Touch firmware. There is 7.5.1 and 7.6. There is a directory for 7.5.2 firmware, but what is in there is 7.5.1. So if you want to try something new it looks like you have to go with 7.6. There are two ways to get new Touch firmware: If you have an external server on your network, upgrade it, then point the Touch at this server and the Touch will automatically upgrade its firmware (including the builtin server) to that version. At this point you don't need the external server anymore, you can now run off the upgraded internal server. OR Go to http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.6.0/ (for 7.6) download fab4.bin. Put it on a USB stick or SD card. Unplug the Touch. Insert the USB stick or SD Card. Power up the Touch. After its booted go to the update firmware menu and you should now have a Update from media entry. Select that and it will install the firmware from the USB or SD. It will reboot as part of the update process. At that point eject the media, unplug it. Plug in the USB disk. You should now be running the new version of the server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
This really is unacceptable. With all the beta testing, software updates this is really amateurish on logitech's part. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
sberger;562156 Wrote: This has been a known problem since day 1. Do a search. Some have had luck when connecting a HDD to the Touch, but most have the same problem you do. There are no known fixes at this point. I beg to differ: most do not have this problem. Many are using the TOUCH with attached USB drive and playing just fine. In trying to diagnose this problem, it would be useful for the OP to mention the types of files he is trying to play (FLAC, mp3, ALAC, etc.) and the number of tracks in the library. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
sberger;562156 Wrote: This has been a known problem since day 1. Do a search. Some have had luck when connecting a HDD to the Touch, but most have the same problem you do. There are no known fixes at this point. MOST do NOT have this problem. I've never seen it and I don't recall it cropping up in beta testing. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
gellie;563323 Wrote: This really is unacceptable. With all the beta testing, software updates this is really amateurish on logitech's part. Please... do you want to help the OP or just stand on your soapbox? Do you have this problem also or are you just posting for the sake of it? @ Matengawhat... Can you describe your setup further... what format are your music files (flac? mp3?) When this happens are you playing a playlist (for example, are you playing through the tracks on an album?) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563347 Wrote: It does happen, and was mentioned in the Touch beta forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71110highlight=reset+localhost Windows 7 seems to be a factor for us, others saw it in XP. We reverted and have stayed with 7.3.4, as alarms are important to us and they work reliably enough here for us. But the OP appears to be running TinySC + a locally attached USB drive... so Windows 7 wouldn't figure. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563347 Wrote: It does happen, and was mentioned in the Touch beta forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71110highlight=reset+localhost Windows 7 seems to be a factor for us, others saw it in XP. We reverted and have stayed with 7.3.4, as alarms are important to us and they work reliably enough here for us. The OP is using Touch with USB drive, so he is most likely using TinySC so Windows Whatever shouldn't matter. To the OP, What brand of USB drive are you using? What size is the drive? How much free space is left on the drive? Is it USB powered or External powered? Do you have any irregularly large album art (over 600x600)? Answers to these specific questions might help with troubleshooting. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
I understand that. My point is that these issues DO occur, and I doubt the basic problem was fixed in one, but not the other server. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563356 Wrote: I understand that. My point is that these issues DO occur, and I doubt the basic problem was fixed in one, but not the other server. I've never seen full-fat sbs do this... I don't believe there is a basic problem (anymore) First thing to do is to upgrade to 7.5.2. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Phil, I'm not sure it is terribly relevant that you have not experience the problem. See: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15270 I've given up appending the report and testing out various releases. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563371 Wrote: Phil, I'm not sure it is terribly relevant that you have not experience the problem. See: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15270 I've given up appending the report and testing out various releases. The point is, it's not a problem that affects everybody... or even very many people. In fact it would appear that only a tiny minority of users have ever seen this. Therefore it is highly relevant. If we could identify what that tiny minority have in common, perhaps a fix could be found? First of all the problem has to be reproducible... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
The bug mentions Windows 7 and that other services in Windows 7 start having problems. If that's the actual problem I'm not sure what we can do about it. Have you tried another OS? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563371 Wrote: Phil, I'm not sure it is terribly relevant that you have not experience the problem. See: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15270 I've given up appending the report and testing out various releases. MrC, That bug cannot be connected with this issue (although it may appear to show the same symptoms). You had a bizarre Windows 7 issue. The OP doesn't... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: The point is, it's not a problem that affects everybody Agreed. Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: ... or even very many people. Quantify and Prove this assertion. Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: In fact it would appear that only a tiny minority of users have ever seen this. Quantify and Prove this assertion. Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: If we could identify what that tiny minority have in common tiny minority: Prove this arbitrary quantification. Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: First of all the problem has to be reproducible... It is trivially reproducible. It occurred a few dozen times for us last week. Phil Leigh;563374 Wrote: MrC, That bug cannot be connected with this issue (although it may appear to show the same symptoms). You had a bizarre Windows 7 issue. The OP doesn't... And at least one other person mentioned XP. Of course it can be connected. A broken end of a socket will produce Connection lost by localhost. AndyG;563374 Wrote: The bug mentions Windows 7 and that other services in Windows 7 start having problems. If that's the actual problem I'm not sure what we can do about it. Have you tried another OS? I know, it was my bug. No, I haven't tried another OS. One poster indicated use of XP. I did not prove conclusively what was causing the issue, only that it started for me after my Win XP - Win 7 64 change. It appeared exacerbated by running a traceroute utility (pingplotter), as over time network stack errors were occurring. I haven't used the utility in a long while now, and yet playback problems have continued. If someone at Logitech is really interested in investigating this, I'll update our server software and give you all the diagnostics you need. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
MrC;563383 Wrote: Agreed. Quantify and Prove this assertion. Quantify and Prove this assertion. tiny minority: Prove this arbitrary quantification. It is trivially reproducible. It occurred a few dozen times for us last week. And at least one other person mentioned XP. Of course it can be connected. A broken end of a socket will produce Connection lost by localhost. I know, it was my bug. No, I haven't tried another OS. One poster indicated use of XP. I did not prove conclusively what was causing the issue, only that it started for me after my Win XP - Win 7 64 change. It appeared exacerbated by running a traceroute utility (pingplotter), as over time network stack errors were occurring. I haven't used the utility in a long while now, and yet playback problems have continued. If someone at Logitech is really interested in investigating this, I'll update our server software and give you all the diagnostics you need. You prove your assertions. I can't be bothered to defend the bleeding obvious. What is your problem I'm trying - despite your best efforts, it would seem - to illicit some information from the OP that might help resolve the issue. I've got no idea what you are trying to achieve. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
i have this issue too and it is frustrating. i'm running Touch with an attached powerered USB drive. It appears to be mainly/only on Apple Lossless tracks although I can't be 100% yet. -- atchi123 atchi123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:00 PM, atchi123 wrote: i have this issue too and it is frustrating. i'm running Touch with an attached powerered USB drive. It appears to be mainly/only on Apple Lossless tracks although I can't be 100% yet. If it only happens on ALAC tracks it could be a bug in the built-in ALAC decoder. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Phil Leigh;563344 Wrote: Please... do you want to help the OP or just stand on your soapbox? Do you have this problem also or are you just posting for the sake of it? How the hell exactly are you helping the op? i would'nt be comment AGAIN if i was not still having this problem. @ Matengawhat... Can you describe your setup further... what format are your music files (flac? mp3?) When this happens are you playing a playlist (for example, are you playing through the tracks on an album?) Matengawhat, im running osx 10.5.8, using a toshiba 250gb external drive hook up to the touch. All my files are mpeg-4 audio. 90% of the time i play a album start to finish the first song is cut off the last ~30 sec. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
gellie;563450 Wrote: Matengawhat, im running osx 10.5.8, using a toshiba 250gb external drive hook up to the touch. All my files are mpeg-4 audio. 90% of the time i play a album start to finish the first song is cut off the last ~30 sec. aha. there does seem to be more problems with playing ALAC, m4a, mp4, etc. files. So this helps narrow things down. For example, I play only FLAC or mp3 files and don't see this problem on the Touch. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
For what its worth, without quantitative evidence well never know just how wide spread, or not, this problem really is. I reported it back in April and someone else was kind enough to log it as a bug. That was 3 months ago http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 I just gave up trying, which is sad considering I bought the Touch because you could connect an external drive directly to it. Aside from some casual internet radio listening I dont have much use for the Touch. It has been a big letdown. Tony -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
Hi hope someone can help tried to key word search but can't find an answer I have my touch connected to a usb hard drive and plays fine most of the time but on a regular basis it just skips to the next track - if i go back to the track it then plays fine - it is as though someone has pressed next track on the remote any ideas? -- matengawhat matengawhat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks finishing early and skipping to next song
matengawhat;562088 Wrote: Hi hope someone can help tried to key word search but can't find an answer I have my touch connected to a usb hard drive and plays fine most of the time but on a regular basis it just skips to the next track - if i go back to the track it then plays fine - it is as though someone has pressed next track on the remote any ideas? This has been a known problem since day 1. Do a search. Some have had luck when connecting a HDD to the Touch, but most have the same problem you do. There are no known fixes at this point. -- sberger sberger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30889 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80474 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
