Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 10:01 +, Luke-Jennings wrote: HI, If you right click the icon and then select stretch icon. Unfortunately you need to do each one individually this way. Luke On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 01:53 -0800, JONATHAN TAYLOR wrote: Hi all, I've been looking (probably in all the wrong places) for ways to change the icon sizes on my desktop. If I was organised (if only) I wouldn't need so many there, but as I run my own business I do. I know I ought to put folders with groups in, but it's handy having them all in front of me, and now I'm using up valuable space. Thanks for your help (in advance!) Jon Hi, If your talking about general icon size. Use 'nautilus' and do 'Edit' - 'Preferences' and adjust on the 'View' tab with the 'Icon view defaults'. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does Karmic Koala still use Rhythmbox?
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 06:32 +, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Just wondering, folks: we know that Rhythmbox ceased development, and even ceased providing fixes for bugs, months ago. Hi, Yes, Rhythmbox is still provided in Ubuntu 9.10. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] insurance for meetings
On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 10:17 +0100, Lucy wrote: 2009/10/5 Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What are peoples experience with any requirements for personal liability insurance for things like lug events, or install days. I remember at our first lug meet at exeter uni. back around year 2000,.we just got people to sign a disclaimer, Just wondered, it may help dclug members when organising things like install days. My experience has been that the venue has provided the insurance, or we've just met informally in a public place so as a pub and so insurance wasn't needed. I guess if you were meeting in somewhere like a scout hut/church hall things might be different. I don't actually know what the law is in regards to this though. Anyone know when PLI is actually needed? Hi all, PLI is primarily for a business/organisation and public gatherings should be covered. If one or more persons gathers at a public place i.e. a pub or other host which is a business; even a scout hut or church hall etc., it is the business/organisation that should have such coverage where applicable. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 21:17 +0100, Jon Taylor wrote: Hi all, I’m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a laptop and broadband dongle. We’ve (sort of) found a laptop that we’re going to put Jaunty onto but I’d like to know if there are any ISP’s we should look at and also any we should avoid? Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired person who has only ever had MS OS’s so he definitely won’t understand terminal or other technical stuff. I’ll probably be the one setting it all up for him. I’d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards. Thanks Jon Hi, I use t-mobile (Huawei dongle) on laptops that 8.04 and up on. I have no real issues using it bar one. To get 30 days of broadband at the fixed £15 (3Gb download limit, but allows to to browse even when exceeded and blocks downloads between 4pm and midnight) you have to SMS from the device after purchasing the top up which makes you reliant on t-mobiles Windows software. :-( Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 08:39 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 04/09/09 08:27, Philip Wyett wrote: snip / I use t-mobile (Huawei dongle) on laptops that 8.04 and up on. I have no real issues using it bar one. To get 30 days of broadband at the fixed £15 (3Gb download limit, but allows to to browse even when exceeded and blocks downloads between 4pm and midnight) you have to SMS from the device after purchasing the top up which makes you reliant on t-mobiles Windows software. :-( Have you tried wader? That supports SMS over 3G devices. http://wader-project.org/ We funded some of the development ;-) Al Thanks Alan. Got it installed and running on my work/main 8.04 laptop I have with me and able to send an SMS to my phone. Will try with a top-up tomorrow. Many thanks Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 7.10 end of life today
Hi all, Just an FYI. Ubuntu 7.10 reaches the end of it's support life today. If your still running it - Time to upgrade. :-) http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-7.10-eol Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and a Great Grandma. A great story.
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 11:13 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote: What? A story as good as this doesn't deserve to be mentioned more than once? Cheers Bruce True enough, it can. Was having a self PEBHAC moment, but now can let myself off. :-) Regards Phil 2009/4/15 Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 04:40 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: I'll not spoil this one and leave you to read it through. :-) http://dnc.digitalunite.com/2009/03/31/shopping-delivered-by-ubuntu-linux/ Regards Phil OK, I scrolled back through my email and see it has been posted. Wish some users would keep up. ;-) Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and a Great Grandma. A great story.
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 11:44 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 11:13 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote: What? A story as good as this doesn't deserve to be mentioned more than once? Cheers Bruce True enough, it can. Was having a self PEBHAC moment, but now can let myself off. :-) Regards Phil I'm going back to bed to get up and start over. Two keys out on that PEBKAC even. :-D Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 02:06 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: Who are the Linux Foundation? A foundation set up to protect Linux, most large open-source projects have such an organisation behind them. Usually a holder of IP, receiver of donations from sponsors, etc. The Linux Foundation pays Linus to work on the kernel, for example. Can Linus T not, perhaps, ask them to change their name? Perhaps to the Microsoft going on Linux Foundation or similar? Difficult... they own the trademark, as I understand it :) If I had created an operating system so vast in its scope I'd be seriously concerned if some people decided to take it upon themselves to undermine everything I had created by ineptitude, lack of vision and - most seriously - failing to comply with open standards. I think it was an oversight on their part, though a pretty major one. Would be interesting to hear if anyone complaining gets a response from them. I have emailed the foundation asking a few questions and now await a response. So, lets see what we get in reply. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] commands to navigate a windows network for a script
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:52 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: doug livesey wrote: Hi -- I have set up a database server at work that I currently run backups on myself, but wish to put this into a cron job. One of the things I would like to do is to have that backup take place, then to have it copied over to our work's windows network, where it can be caught in our nightly backup to tape. Could anyone offer me some pointers as to how I should write this script, particularly with reference to how I get on to navigate the windows network? Thanks, Doug. Presumably you'd want your backup script to copy the data to the Windows machine with the tape drive on it? What you'll need to do is mount a share on the Window server. If you install the smbfs package you'll be able to use either smbmount or mount with the type cifs or smbfs (although IIRC smbfs is being replaced by cifs). I normally do this when backing up machines using Partimage on the System Rescue CD. I'd enter a command such as... sudo mount -t cifs -o username=myusername,password=mypassword //server/share /mnt/mountpoint Where myusername is the username of the user who is connecting to the share, mypassword is the users password, you can also store the password in a password file. If it was me I'd create a basic user with limited access to just the one share and nothing else, that way if the password was compromised then it should in theory limit the access that that particular user can access. I believe you can also specify a domain too using domain=mydomain. //server/share is the address of the server and the share name, this can also be an ip address for instance //192.168.0.1/myshare Note the slashes are forward slashes rather than backslashes but still are double slashes (//). Finally /mnt/mountpoint points to a mount point on the Linux box running the script. To unmount the share just use sudo umount /mnt/mountpoint If you're always going to use the same share you could also put the details in fstab which should then resolve the need to mount the share as root (using sudo). You can find plenty of information too in the smbmount man page (man smbmount) after you have installed the smbfs package. Basically once the share is mounted on the Linux filesystem then it should work pretty much like any other file or directory although anything you store in there will be owned by the user you used to mount the share. Hope this helps. Rob While Robs method is fine, I would be inclined to aim at a more secure solution of setting up SSH on the machine you would be sending backups to for inclusion on tape and then SFTP'ing over the backup file(s). Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and a Great Grandma. A great story.
I'll not spoil this one and leave you to read it through. :-) http://dnc.digitalunite.com/2009/03/31/shopping-delivered-by-ubuntu-linux/ Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and a Great Grandma. A great story.
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 04:40 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: I'll not spoil this one and leave you to read it through. :-) http://dnc.digitalunite.com/2009/03/31/shopping-delivered-by-ubuntu-linux/ Regards Phil OK, I scrolled back through my email and see it has been posted. Wish some users would keep up. ;-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 08:54 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Ben Crisford bencrisf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I heard this yeah. I thought that the origin one made linux sound like some disease. I didn't like it. Like you, I enjoyed the winning one but wasn't too keen on the Origin one. Too dark and gloomy, whereas the winner was light and airy and fresh. Sean Rant coming :-D I would like to offer opinion on these videos, but as a user who doesn't use proprietary formats - I'm screwed! - All videos viewable online using flash. - The winning entry is available for download as a Windows Media Video. Oh and an ogg but the file is a dud at 0x0 resolution - Have fun getting totem (or your player of choice) to play that one. ;-) - Runner up has no download version. - The third place video is available as a MOV. Well done to the Linux Foundation - We're Linux ay? :-( Rant over Happy Easter holidays to all. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 10:00 +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: On 13 Apr 2009, at 09:30, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 08:54 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Ben Crisford bencrisf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I heard this yeah. I thought that the origin one made linux sound like some disease. I didn't like it. Like you, I enjoyed the winning one but wasn't too keen on the Origin one. Too dark and gloomy, whereas the winner was light and airy and fresh. Sean Rant coming :-D I would like to offer opinion on these videos, but as a user who doesn't use proprietary formats - I'm screwed! - All videos viewable online using flash. - The winning entry is available for download as a Windows Media Video. Oh and an ogg but the file is a dud at 0x0 resolution - Have fun getting totem (or your player of choice) to play that one. ;-) - Runner up has no download version. - The third place video is available as a MOV. Well done to the Linux Foundation - We're Linux ay? :-( Rant over Happy Easter holidays to all. Regards Phil The ogg file for the first option plays fine in VLC for me; I don't know whether it's been updated. Thanks Harry Hi Harry, The file is still the same. The file looks a bit iffy looking at the ogginfo output below. This video certainly will not play for me with totem on Ubuntu 8.04. I will try another machine later. Regards Phil Note: Stream 1 has serial number 0, which is legal but may cause problems with some tools. New logical stream (#1, serial: ): type theora New logical stream (#2, serial: 0001): type vorbis Warning: Theora stream 1 does not have headers correctly framed. Terminal header page contains additional packets or has non-zero granulepos Theora headers parsed for stream 1, information follows... Version: 3.2.0 Vendor: Xiph.Org libTheora I 20060526 3 2 0 Width: 720 Height: 576 Total image: 720 by 576, crop offset (0, 0) Framerate 23976/1000 (23.98 fps) Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1:1.00) Frame aspect 4:3 Colourspace unspecified Pixel format 4:2:0 Target bitrate: 0 kbps Nominal quality setting (0-63): 44 Vorbis headers parsed for stream 2, information follows... Version: 0 Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20050304 Channels: 2 Rate: 48000 Nominal bitrate: 95.20 kb/s Upper bitrate: 95.20 kb/s Lower bitrate: 95.20 kb/s User comments section follows... DIRECTX_DURATION=0x7FFF Theora stream 1: Total data length: 1006738 bytes Playback length: 0m:50.008s Average bitrate: 161.051211 kb/s Logical stream 1 ended Vorbis stream 2: Total data length: 603591 bytes Playback length: 0m:50.025s Average bitrate: 96.525654 kb/s Logical stream 2 ended signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 10:21 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 10:00 +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: On 13 Apr 2009, at 09:30, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 08:54 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Ben Crisford bencrisf...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I heard this yeah. I thought that the origin one made linux sound like some disease. I didn't like it. Like you, I enjoyed the winning one but wasn't too keen on the Origin one. Too dark and gloomy, whereas the winner was light and airy and fresh. Sean Rant coming :-D I would like to offer opinion on these videos, but as a user who doesn't use proprietary formats - I'm screwed! - All videos viewable online using flash. - The winning entry is available for download as a Windows Media Video. Oh and an ogg but the file is a dud at 0x0 resolution - Have fun getting totem (or your player of choice) to play that one. ;-) - Runner up has no download version. - The third place video is available as a MOV. Well done to the Linux Foundation - We're Linux ay? :-( Rant over Happy Easter holidays to all. Regards Phil The ogg file for the first option plays fine in VLC for me; I don't know whether it's been updated. Thanks Harry Hi Harry, The file is still the same. The file looks a bit iffy looking at the ogginfo output below. This video certainly will not play for me with totem on Ubuntu 8.04. I will try another machine later. Regards Phil Note: Stream 1 has serial number 0, which is legal but may cause problems with some tools. New logical stream (#1, serial: ): type theora New logical stream (#2, serial: 0001): type vorbis Warning: Theora stream 1 does not have headers correctly framed. Terminal header page contains additional packets or has non-zero granulepos Theora headers parsed for stream 1, information follows... Version: 3.2.0 Vendor: Xiph.Org libTheora I 20060526 3 2 0 Width: 720 Height: 576 Total image: 720 by 576, crop offset (0, 0) Framerate 23976/1000 (23.98 fps) Pixel aspect ratio 1:1 (1:1.00) Frame aspect 4:3 Colourspace unspecified Pixel format 4:2:0 Target bitrate: 0 kbps Nominal quality setting (0-63): 44 Vorbis headers parsed for stream 2, information follows... Version: 0 Vendor: Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20050304 Channels: 2 Rate: 48000 Nominal bitrate: 95.20 kb/s Upper bitrate: 95.20 kb/s Lower bitrate: 95.20 kb/s User comments section follows... DIRECTX_DURATION=0x7FFF Theora stream 1: Total data length: 1006738 bytes Playback length: 0m:50.008s Average bitrate: 161.051211 kb/s Logical stream 1 ended Vorbis stream 2: Total data length: 603591 bytes Playback length: 0m:50.025s Average bitrate: 96.525654 kb/s Logical stream 2 ended Indeed the file does play under VLC. http://twitpic.com/399a3/full I suspect some bastardisation along the way here with the format. The DIRECTX_DURATION=0x7FFF element would point towards this coming from a Windows tool that isn't keeping to the file format(s) correctly. This so called ogg really needs pulling and fixing. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:24 +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: Indeed the file does play under VLC. http://twitpic.com/399a3/full I suspect some bastardisation along the way here with the format. The DIRECTX_DURATION=0x7FFF element would point towards this coming from a Windows tool that isn't keeping to the file format(s) correctly. This so called ogg really needs pulling and fixing. Regards Phil Try the ogg at http://fwot.info/free.ogv Thanks Harry Thanks Harry. Maybe you should offer it up to the foundation to replace the one already there. As of my last post I viewed and also converted all the winning entries and as most did enjoy the winners a lot. :-) But lets do the old brass tacks here. The Linux Foundation with poor organisation and execution is not covering itself or the community it purports to represent with any glory here; and failing to promote open standards and formats in the first instance as I think they should be. Hopefully the same mistakes will not happen in future. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] We're Linux video - winner announced
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 02:07 +0100, Daniel Drummond wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Miller wrote: Who are the Linux Foundation? Can Linus T not, perhaps, ask them to change their name? Perhaps to the Microsoft going on Linux Foundation or similar? If I had created an operating system so vast in its scope I'd be seriously concerned if some people decided to take it upon themselves to undermine everything I had created by ineptitude, lack of vision and - most seriously - failing to comply with open standards. Sean Uh, I think Torvalds is aware of the Linux Foundation. From their website: The Linux Foundation sponsors Linus Torvalds so he can remain independent while working full-time on the Linux kernel. I think you may be confusing Torvalds for the FSF: they would be the ones most likely to get upset by a video promoting Linux in a non-free format. Usually we don't need to promote Linux amongst ourselves (Linux users), but to those not using Linux, and free software, who also happen to be those least likely to be able to view an ogg video. That is not to suggest that there shouldn't be an ogg version, but it does make sense to distribute it in a format viewable by the target audience. Of course it makes sense to deliver the content for specific platforms and catering towards the common. So by that theory every one of the final three should have been converted and uploaded for viewing and/or downloading as: - Flash - Ogg Theora - WMV - DivX - Quicktime For the sake of an hour or two to do the conversions the Linux Foundation could have covered most if not all the bases and looked good with the videos ready to be passed around by existing Linux and other folks to get the word and buzz of the campaign going. The mishmash and a non-standard Ogg Theora file just makes it all look sloppy. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BugJam is upon us but lets not forget the proposed repos
Hi all, With the Bug Jam upon us can I ask we not only concentrate on the bugs in Launchpad, but also consider enabling the proposed repositories for hardy and intrepid and help test where possible the fixes that have been made and just require testing and fix confirmation to allow them to be pushed out to all users. To enable proposed see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed To see listings of what is in proposed: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
Hi all, Users of Linux with ALSA on laptops and other mobile devices have for years often been presented with the fun and games of sound working great but then plugging in headphones leaves you with no sound or sound coming out of speakers and headphones etc. This annoys many and makes distros look poor to the new user in some cases. Could we have a bug day for and in conjunction with ALSA to collect as much per user hardware and what they set to fix it i.e. the 'options' in alsa-base to maybe allow the ALSA project to make things better for all. Your thoughts would be appreciated? Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:11 +, Jacob Williams wrote: Forgive me if I misunderstand, but ALSA not in the process of being superseeded by PulseAudio? As Alan indicated it is just another layer (a proxy) and supposedly a drop in replacement for ESD. To see how PulseAudio looks visually. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Pulseaudio-diagram.png Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:16 -0800, Dan Chen wrote: Hi, I recommend creating a wiki page with links to the generated URLs by alsa-info.sh[0] and sorting by SSID, e.g., SSID .. codec+revision .. output url Please be aware that the jack rework upstream is very active and, thus, those changes will not apply cleanly to any linux source shipped in Ubuntu. It's best to be running the kernel team's latest 2.6.29-rc vanilla kernel builds[1] if you're testing, because any changes made will be pushed to the sound-2.6 git tree. If you're not already familiar with hda-verb, I'm willing to donate an evening or several to walk people through it. [0] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ Thanks for the information about upstream jack sensing work. I shall take a look at that over the weekend. The script you linked to bails out with errors here. I will look at that later, but thank you for the link. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 17:53 +, Philip Wyett wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 07:16 -0800, Dan Chen wrote: Hi, I recommend creating a wiki page with links to the generated URLs by alsa-info.sh[0] and sorting by SSID, e.g., SSID .. codec+revision .. output url Please be aware that the jack rework upstream is very active and, thus, those changes will not apply cleanly to any linux source shipped in Ubuntu. It's best to be running the kernel team's latest 2.6.29-rc vanilla kernel builds[1] if you're testing, because any changes made will be pushed to the sound-2.6 git tree. If you're not already familiar with hda-verb, I'm willing to donate an evening or several to walk people through it. [0] http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh [1] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ Thanks for the information about upstream jack sensing work. I shall take a look at that over the weekend. The script you linked to bails out with errors here. I will look at that later, but thank you for the link. My own lazyness here. The script runs fine if the file is made executable and run. Running invoking with sh that sends to dasher it doesn't like. ;-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Time for a new graphics card?
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 19:01 +, Rob Beard wrote: Dianne Reuby wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 10:03 +, Rob Beard wrote: Dianne, do you know if your video card is AGP, PCI or PCI-Express? My old desktop had an ATI Radeon 9250 in it and it ran perfectly with Compiz. That was an AGP card and I dare say you'd be able to get one off eBay for less than a tenner, plus it uses open source drivers. Rob AGP I'm not too bothered about the wobbly windows, but I would like to be able to change the resolution and stop the icons leaping about the panel! Dianne Have you locked the icons? Anyway... here's a couple of possible suggestions for you... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149296 - Radeon 9250 128MB AGP @ £27.12 (bit pricey if you ask me) http://tinyurl.com/ynqmp4 - NVidia Geforce FX 5200 128MB AGP @ £21.56 from Aria There's a few ATI Radeon NVidia Geforce cards on eBay too from about a fiver. Saying that maybe someone on the list might have something kicking around. Rob Yikes nvidia 5200 still at £20 mark. There's a credit crunchie on! ;-) Dianne, I have at least one or two spare 6000 or 7000 series AGP nvidia cards knocking about and if you want one. Please email me off list and I will ship one too you for free. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Help improve the desktop experience! Send screenshots of your 1024x768 desktop
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 13:19 +, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/17 Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com: Not too sure Marks assertion that 1024x768 is probably the most widely used size of screen on laptops is correct overall but is within the thinkpad fan base. I haven't had a laptop with a default of 1024x768 for years but 1280x800 and now 1440x900. I am wrong in my thoughts here? :-) My oldest working laptop is 1024x768 and that's a 1GHz Celeron. Others are 1920x1200, 1440x1050, 800x480 and 1024x600. At UDS last week there were a fair few thinkpads, but also quite a few Mac laptops. I guess 1024x768 is a general minimum for a non-netbook laptop these days. Cheers, Al. I would agree it is the non-netbook general minimum. We could take Marks request a little further and make it a little fun for UK members and have a 'MyUbuntu' screen-shots section on the UK section of the wiki to add their pimped or not so pimped desktop images? Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Help improve the desktop experience! Send screenshots of your 1024x768 desktop
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:40 +, Alan Pope wrote: FYI: See below.. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com Date: 2008/12/17 Subject: Help improve the desktop experience! Send screenshots of your 1024x768 desktop To: Ubuntu Developers ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Hi folks As part of our work on desktop experience and design, I'm collecting screenshots of desktops in action. Please send me yours! Feel free to send two or three, with browsers open or email clients or chat windows, anything. I'm interested in seeing the diversity of wallpapers, themes, panel configurations, window layouts in general use. By and large I think I can promise to keep these confidential but I would rather not have any sensitive info just in case. We will use these for mockups to test different ideas, and if one of those mockups got published I would not want to cause a problem for anyone! I specifically am looking for screenshots that are all the same size so we can test ideas against multiple desktops simultaneously. I think 1024x768 is probably the most widely used size of screen on laptops. I don't mind screenshots of desktops in other sizes (they may be quite useful) but having 10 or 20 shots in one size would be more useful right now. Not too sure Marks assertion that 1024x768 is probably the most widely used size of screen on laptops is correct overall but is within the thinkpad fan base. I haven't had a laptop with a default of 1024x768 for years but 1280x800 and now 1440x900. I am wrong in my thoughts here? :-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Winner announcement: Team Leader / PoC 2009
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 00:10 +, Michael Wood wrote: Hi Everyone, It gives me great pleasure to announce that Dave Walker has won the Ubuntu-UK Team Leader Elections. A massive thank you to: + Firstly Alan Pope who has steered the ubuntu-uk ship smoothly over the last year or so. + Philip Wyett for commiting to be a candidate in this election + Stephen Johnston for commiting to be a candidate in this election And finally to all those who voted - A record number of you (89) for any vote in Ubuntu-UK's history. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/+poll/teamlead09/ Kind Regards, Michael Wood Firstly, thank you too all that voted for me. Your support is greatly appreciated and I hope that support will translate to the new team leader in his and our efforts as a group. Congratulations to Dave and I hope we can now push forward together and achieve the things we wish both inside and externally for the Ubuntu community in the UK. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Voting process, was: Voting Opens For Team Leader
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:14 +, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/11/16 Matthew Daubney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll stick this in this thread as it's related. Will there be a chance to discuss the election process once it's finished? There was an opportunity between my first mail on the subject and the start of November :) However I came up with the plan after very little discussion, so yes, it would make sense for us to plan ahead for the next time. I'm interested in whether people think this should be a post which rotates based on a particular schedule such as yearly, or whether the person holding the post should just carry on until challenged, or until they decide to step down. Certainly all worth talking about. Cheers, Al. Personally, I would go with a time scheduled election say once a year. The option of until someone is challenged would mean a team lead was not really doing as they should be and it has reached a point of tension where one or more people want the individual out of office and that kind of tension and division would not be the best for the group. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 17:35 +, Dave Walker wrote: Alan Pope wrote: I quite like the idea of a bumper sticker. I have a debian one on my car at the moment, but it's been on there a few years. Time for an upgrade. Cheers, Al. I think this is a superb idea.. However, the same question that keeps raising it's head when this is discussed - Should they be sold for cost, or a slight mark-up. If so, what happens with the money? Kind Regards, Dave Walker A bumper sticker has a very limited audience and the item itself conjures up some mental pictures stereotypes i.e. one ventriloquists characters specifically ... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq4GI9NZKxM :-D Note for those like myself that don't use flash. You can use http://mux.am to convert it to theora. ;-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Posters
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 18:17 +, Rob Beard wrote: David King wrote: I would suggest that if such a poster was being used in the UK, that the spelling be changed to British spelling instead of American. David King Yep, hence needing the original artwork and not just a JPG/PNG image. I'm sure it's out there on the net somewhere. Rob As a group we can accomplish these things and create a good promo stuff for the UK that maybe generic enough for others to use and be pushed into the spread ubuntu arena. We can create some good print quality stuff and I would love to have us do this. As an example. An Ubuntu CD wrap is good but we should have a nice insert for us as the UK team to point people to the mailing and IRC etc. Keep to the branding but we add an avenue to the UK community for support. These things we can put up for discussion at upcoming team meetings, a call for artists and interested writers etc. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Menus
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 17:22 +, Ken Adams wrote: Hi All Is is possible to adjust the menus in both Gnome and KDE according to which user logs in. Ie. limit which programs show up for use when my 5 year old logs in. I am using 8.04 Cheers Rgds Ken Have a look at an application called sabayon. http://projects.gnome.org/sabayon/ If you wish to install it, it can be done from the Ubuntu repositories. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Suggest a ubuntu compatible TV-CARD
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 10:03 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:49 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: now that you understand my setup...would an analogue tv card be better than a digital one or vice versa? 2008/10/15 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Javad Ayaz wrote: ok i will look at those links.! I dont want any of my cards trying to catch the transmission themselves as aerial reception is terrible. Ive got virgin cable so that would be the primary source! I suppose i will look into Regards Javad Hi, Wanting to use virgin i.e. cable RF input has more than one issue. 1. QAM demod and decode. Yes you can get cards that will do this. 2. Nagra decoding. Subscriber coding used by NTL and Telewest now Virgin. You are very unlikely to find a card that will support this and have the necessary card reader. This is very protected technology! Regards Phil Hi, You can take input from your STB RF (non F connector) out if available, but that will be a purely analogue signal. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Suggest a ubuntu compatible TV-CARD
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 09:49 +0100, Javad Ayaz wrote: now that you understand my setup...would an analogue tv card be better than a digital one or vice versa? 2008/10/15 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Javad Ayaz wrote: ok i will look at those links.! I dont want any of my cards trying to catch the transmission themselves as aerial reception is terrible. Ive got virgin cable so that would be the primary source! I suppose i will look into Regards Javad Hi, Wanting to use virgin i.e. cable RF input has more than one issue. 1. QAM demod and decode. Yes you can get cards that will do this. 2. Nagra decoding. Subscriber coding used by NTL and Telewest now Virgin. You are very unlikely to find a card that will support this and have the necessary card reader. This is very protected technology! Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 22:13 +0100, Seif Attar wrote: Hello, I have had problems with ubuntu freezing on gutsy and it's still freezing with hardy, thought it was x64 problem, so i switched to x32 ubuntu, but it's still crashing! then i realised it might not be ubuntu at all. so I ran a memtest, that froze as well, I assume that if the memtest froze then it's not a memory problem? otherwise it would have detected the problem? what else can I do to find the culprit? I tried removing all the pci cards, it still crashed, I am trying the option noapictimer for the grub menu, as a thread I found suggested, will see how that turns out. Next I am going to remove one of the ram and leave one, swapping later, that way i'll know for sure if 1 of them is broken. any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? maybe benchmarking software for ubuntu? Thanks, Seif A. Hi, It could be a memory issue still but lets not go down that road at present. Have you been inside the machine to make sure all hardware is correctly inserted and seated? The next thing is to check if a specific app is normally running when the machine freezes or give us as best description of what happens i.e. After a long time running, can you dump back to failsafe terminal out of X, is the mouse still working after freeze etc. Be descriptive! :-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Expo Live
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 20:26 +0100, Dave Murphy wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:33:51 +0100 Adam Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Count me in for stand-manning on all days if necessary. I'm sure we can beat the success of the last Linuxworld London. Is there any chance we can get some more of those polo shirts that we had last time because they disappeared like hotcakes... I can foresee two problems with the polo shirts: 1) They were produced by Nik Butler (Loudmouthman) on behalf of the Loco team, and he's now stepped back from the team 2) Canonical have their store now, selling their own shirts*. We'd probably need to get new permission to do them. * I'm using 'their' instead of 'our' because a) I've got my community hat on right now and b) I have no involvement in the store or trademark usage. If this was a UK LoCoTeam shirt for team members, maybe we can do a deal with a company I know of through a company I used to work for called Xamax. http://www.xamax.co.uk/detail.asp?idProduct=1 The shirts are good value price wise, embroidery is free for certain quantities (maybe we can do a deal on order quantity if we guarantee purchasing a certain amount per annum) and they are very hard wearing - I know I wore them for over a year and the company I was working for supplied them to engineering, building, demolition and other companies of that kind. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:23 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7594249.stm (sorry if this has already been posted) - -- Stephen O'Neill Yeah, this one has been done over a bit in #ubuntu-uk on IRC. :-) A response has been constructed by at least one member who may wish to comment / discuss it here. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 08:21 +0100, Philip Newborough wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Stephen O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the spam, I should contemplate before clicking 'send'. What spam? Not everyone logs into IRC so I wouldn't worry. Personally, I found the article an interesting read. Thanks for posting the link :) --- Philip I agree. Discussion in IRC and on the list is all good. It was an interesting read, but a bit hopping from place to place. May have something to do with his attention span of a gnat he admitted to. :-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 09:00 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: It actually annoys me when people misrepresent the situation so - installing from a terminal only happens in exceptional circumstances these days. The BBC seem to like doing this - if you recall on Click a few months ago they had a piece on Ubuntu where they had a black screen with scrolling text during boot-up, that ain't what my Ubuntu does (well, not unless I ask it to and Windows is just the same in that regard!) Sean This article also does similar misrepresentation. Paragraph 5 of the 'Text based' section. It's probably worth mentioning one other important point about Linux here. It's a text-based operating system, which means that a fair few of the things you may want to tell your computer to do - installing certain new software, for example - requires you to open up a terminal window and actually type text into the little window. This paragraph is incorrect and really does get my back up. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:32 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mac wrote: So in my view the risk is not worth the expense. I have had one or two failures within the first year, and Dell have fixed them for free. But the *very* few things I've had to get fixed myself within the next three years have cost me nothing like insurance premium Dell charge. (Actually, the only thing I can think of is a NIC that cost less than a tenner.) I cannot speak for Dell. My girlfriend bought a Samsung laptop in around 2003. Nothing went wrong in the first year, then in years 2 3 a problem with the screen connector kept recurring, the onboard power supply socket needed replacing, and the external power supply connector needed replacing twice. None of these were through abuse, more design flaws (or revenue generating features). Sorry but I have to stick up for the particular OEM here a little. I have worked closely with the staff of this OEM and been involved in meetings with 3 of the designers of a certain product that is shipped here in the UK. In the first meeting one of the designers of this product uttered the now immortal words This product will not break! and was very serious, which kind of worried some of us as we were contracted to repair them if and when they wrong and paid per repair. :-) Design flaws or revenue generating features are not a purposeful part of this companies products and great pride by what my colleagues and I saw in what they create was very evident. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 10:04 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Wyett wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:32 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: None of these were through abuse, more design flaws (or revenue generating features). [snip] Design flaws or revenue generating features are not a purposeful part of this companies products and great pride by what my colleagues and I saw in what they create was very evident. Heh! Just for the record I was being facetious, so nobody sue me! ... my day job pays me to be a programmer. I never write bugs, well not intentionally anyway. I am sure that manufacturers wouldn't manufacture defects on purpose either. I don't think the corporate lawyers will come after you for being slightly annoyed for a notebook going south not too far out of it's warranty. Now download an mp3 track that may not pay for and the lawyer pack will be on you for hurting the poor starving record companies! ;-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 10:35 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: I cannot buy a laptop without a warranty. That would be careless because in my experience laptops do break in the 2nd and 3rd years of owning them. The Dell extended warranty is quite expensive but I intend to have the laptop for the duration of University and so not having the lifeline is most likely a bad idea. £83.40 does sound like a lot for 4 years warranty on a product that Dell is meant to believe won't break but I don't really have a choice when it comes down to it. It actually is a shame you have to pay for 3 years of extra warranty. In Europe the minimum warranty from the manufacturer is 2 years and not the 12 months we get. We want two years warranty! Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 11:40 +0100, LeeGroups wrote: snip My girlfriend bought a Samsung laptop in around 2003. Nothing went wrong in the first year, then in years 2 3 a problem with the screen connector kept recurring, the onboard power supply socket needed replacing, and the *external power supply connector needed replacing* twice. *None of these were through abuse, more design flaws* (or revenue generating features). snip Err, I'll have to disagree on that one, power connectors are designed to connect power to a laptop. NOT to withstand being dragged around the living room/bedroom/etc or be passed from person to person. There will always be a slight play in the connector and a year of being 'wiggled' with destroy either the plug/socket or the sockets mounting to the motherboard/powerboard. Stick the laptop on a desk when it's being charged and the connector will outlast the rest of the machine. Despite being called 'laptops' this is the last place you should be using them... Are they called 'laptops' anymore after the old my battery burn't my legs and combustible battery saga. Aren't they now not all referred to as 'notebooks' just to satisfy the lawyers? Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 12:13 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: Hey guys, I'm quite a computer loving person and would like to be able to try and use FOSS applications that come out during the time I am at University. I'd also like to be able to emulate consoles up to, and including, PS1 so that I can play the older games I love and no longer have functional consoles for. My current laptop has a Intel Pentium M 715 / 1.5 GHz and so I would like to build upon it. Which is why the the Intel Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5550 (1.83 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2 MB L2 cache) is essential. Then I'll have 2 gig of RAM where I currently have 512mb. I have a 100GB HDD at the moment but a 120GB HDD (standard) is fine anyway as I can always buy an external HDD for storage. I'm thinking it'll be £492.41 or £522.41 (both including VAT and shipping) depending on whether I want the 15.4 Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display with TrueLife or the 15.4 Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Display with TrueLife. I just have to check my savings and see if I can really part with that cash. Jai Try the link below for comparison against machines you are looking at. Better spec, good German build quality and cheaper than the prices you listed above. ;-) http://tiny.cc/AuO8M The notebook I linked to is all Intel chips so should be fine with Ubuntu. :-) Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 12:40 +0100, Angelos Chatzikostas wrote: It actually is a shame you have to pay for 3 years of extra warranty. In Europe the minimum warranty from the manufacturer is 2 years and not the 12 months we get. We want two years warranty! I thought UK is part of EU .. :) Well according to EU laws anyone who sells equipment in EU must offer 2 years warranty.. The UK kinda didn't bother with that EU directive and we get stuffed with 12 months. :-( This is something I will be bringing up with my local MP the next time I see him because is really is annoying. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 20:51 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: Woo http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html New open source web browser from Google. Looks very interesting from a security and performance perspective alone. The cartoon is a great way to introduce a new product to the media too. Cheers, Al. With the size of the Google PR machine, a cute way of introducing a new product was no real surprise. What is really beginning to worry me is that there is too much choice of applications in the Open Source world. Instead of working to make what we have better and bite into bug #1 and give users a base set of applications they can get comfortable with and trust, we are going to leave maybe switchers to Linux with the mass confusion of which application is best and sticking with Windows. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:46 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 09:12:48PM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: What is really beginning to worry me is that there is too much choice of applications in the Open Source world. Instead of working to make what we have better and bite into bug #1 and give users a base set of applications they can get comfortable with and trust, we are going to leave maybe switchers to Linux with the mass confusion of which application is best and sticking with Windows. That's kind of missing the whole point of open source. The advantage of distributed and uncontrolled development is that everybody goes in whichever direction they want and explores the possibilities for solving a problem to their own satisfaction. The fact there are a multitude of solutions is an advantage as we can each select from them to get something we are happy with. Well... I'll skip the first sentence as such a thing should be never said on a list such as this because it will offend! Exploring new ideas and distributed development are great and I wholly promote that, but to facilitate certain end goals many factors must be taken into account which can mean constraint being introduced. Dictating the right way of doing something and getting everybody to work on it is highly unlikely to actually get the best solution as there is no perfect person to be the dictator. It also precludes the possibility that there are a range of options because different people want different things. Nobody is dictating or wanting to be a dictator and using such inflammatory language does nothing for debate. If you want someone else to do the choosing then you can go for your distro's default and not worry about it. Ubuntu has it's focus on a base set of applications. These do change over time as part of an evolutionary process and that is good. But the selection of those applications is such a constraint I mentioned earlier that is part of a long term goal to appeal to existing and new computer users to trust Ubuntu and make the choice to use it. This I believe has been very beneficial from say a few years ago when you could look at a distribution with a user and not stand a chance (due to the distributed/fragmented nature of applications and inability to easily configure, use and link things together etc) of swaying them into a change whereas you have a chance due to the fact of consistency today with projects such as Ubuntu. It really annoys me when people preset choice as a problem. It might be intimidating to a new user if they are presented with a huge number of options but that is an argument for how we should be presenting things to the new user not an argument for limiting the choices available. Choice is a good thing but can be defined as an issue in certain circumstances. A bad can hurt the overall goal or offering numerous choices can hurt us by confusion. It's a balancing act that really does have to be thought about sometimes in my opinion. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:53 +0100, John Levin wrote: I can't see any way of 'herding cats' and concentrating everyone on a base set of applications, or a single distro for that matter. I don't think it would be desirable either; a lot of good comes out of people trying new ideas (as long as these ideas can be shared, taken and improved, as we do in the free software world). As long as Ubuntu keeps its focus, I'll be happy with it (even though I dislike some of the software choices). :-) Herding cats is very good. I would never want a single application or distro as each has very specific goals and appeal to those with their own specific goals or constraints e.g. hardware etc. However the 30 lane motorway can be narrowed a little sometimes and the slow moving traffic or those that have broken down can be removed. Pooling the knowledge along with sharing fresh ideas should always be promoted and I would agree with you there. Ubuntu does have good focus and constraint to make a quality distribution that does offer a consistent base and extended choice and that formula is one of the things that is helping it gain in popularity and an increased number of users. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory leaks
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 11:29 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: Pidgin and Firefox seem to have serious memory leaks at present on Hardy on my Compaq laptop (ATI Radeon). Is this something I can do anything about or do I just have to wait for a solution? Also, anybody know any alternative multi-protocol Linux IM clients that work in Gnome, as this is another alternative? Sean Hi, If the issue is as bad as you are indicating, this needs to be reported as a bug on http://launchpad.net. Please supply as much info as possible about your system and if possible attach outputs of lspci and lshw if you can. Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] UKTeam parts exchange proposal
Hi all, Having a bit of a clear out of smaller PC hardware... I thought better than throwing things away, could I offer good working components for other UKTeam members who may make good use of it? Thanks to Ging for the initial idea of using the team wiki for parts exchange! :-) I would like to propose such a section where essentially: * Listing hardware. Person offering hardware will list hardware with as detailed spec as possible and a contact email address. Note: The wiki will have a column that will show if the hardware is available or not. Page mock-up to follow in next 48 hours. * Requesting a listed item. A UK Team member will request a piece of available hardware by email to the person offering. * Confirmation of allocation and sending items. The offering person will allocate (on a first come first served basis) and notify a user by email if they are to be sent a piece of requested hardware. The requester will supply a UK mailing address for the hardware by email. Note: Be aware you will have peoples private data. Please show due respect when storing and handling it! The offering person upon receipt of an address shall send the item and mark the item on the wiki as allocated/sent. Postage costs shall be paid by the offering person and no request for postage costs or other money shall be made to the recipient! * Receipt of item. The recipient shall mark the wiki for that item as received when they get the hardware. * Warranty. No sent item will have warranty or a guarantee to work. No communication shall be entered into directly with the sender about working or non working state of items. Any support requests should be made through normal channels i.e. mailing lists, IRC etc. * Primary contact. I am willing to be a primary contact via email for this project, but all emails should have the subject 'UKTeam parts exchange. Look I get a few thousand emails a day and if not marked maybe missed or a delay may ensue. Feedback welcome. :-) P.S. CC me for discussion on list for the moment on this subject as I am having a bad delay in getting list email from Ubuntu at the moment. :-( Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam parts exchange proposal
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 12:46 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: Hi all, Having a bit of a clear out of smaller PC hardware... I thought better than throwing things away, could I offer good working components for other UKTeam members who may make good use of it? Thanks to Ging for the initial idea of using the team wiki for parts exchange! :-) I would like to propose such a section where essentially: * Listing hardware. Person offering hardware will list hardware with as detailed spec as possible and a contact email address. Note: The wiki will have a column that will show if the hardware is available or not. Page mock-up to follow in next 48 hours. * Requesting a listed item. A UK Team member will request a piece of available hardware by email to the person offering. * Confirmation of allocation and sending items. The offering person will allocate (on a first come first served basis) and notify a user by email if they are to be sent a piece of requested hardware. The requester will supply a UK mailing address for the hardware by email. Note: Be aware you will have peoples private data. Please show due respect when storing and handling it! The offering person upon receipt of an address shall send the item and mark the item on the wiki as allocated/sent. Postage costs shall be paid by the offering person and no request for postage costs or other money shall be made to the recipient! * Receipt of item. The recipient shall mark the wiki for that item as received when they get the hardware. * Warranty. No sent item will have warranty or a guarantee to work. No communication shall be entered into directly with the sender about working or non working state of items. Any support requests should be made through normal channels i.e. mailing lists, IRC etc. * Primary contact. I am willing to be a primary contact via email for this project, but all emails should have the subject 'UKTeam parts exchange. Look I get a few thousand emails a day and if not marked maybe missed or a delay may ensue. Feedback welcome. :-) P.S. CC me for discussion on list for the moment on this subject as I am having a bad delay in getting list email from Ubuntu at the moment. :-( Regards Phil A mockup page for review and feedback can be viewed at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilWyett/MockUps/PartsExchange Regards Phil signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion
2008/6/19 John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have installed Compiz through the correct channel but it has not offered me an initial cube even though all the correct box's in ccsm are ticked Can get the screen to pivot centrally, screen to wobble etc, but no **??!! cube Have been on to web site and got the green OK's that machine is OK and capable It must be a simple answer but I'm dammed if I can see it Any constructive ideas please? John Taylor -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ CTRL + ALT + Click and move your mouse - if memory serves. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can i ask a very techie related question?regarding firmware on my MP3 player!!!
2008/6/16 Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok i will try and input tha command...although i think i already have those installed! Thank you Dave! On 16/06/2008, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: SNIP http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697579 I get the exact same error. Can anyone advise as to what it means ...and how to solve it? SNIP Hi Javad, Try to install the following packages: $ sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev libtag1-dev Kind Regards, Dave Walker You want 'libtagc0-dev' not 'libtag1-dev'. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can i ask a very techie related question?regarding firmware on my MP3 player!!!
2008/6/16 Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/16 Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok i will try and input tha command...although i think i already have those installed! Thank you Dave! On 16/06/2008, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: SNIP http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697579 I get the exact same error. Can anyone advise as to what it means ...and how to solve it? SNIP Hi Javad, Try to install the following packages: $ sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev libtag1-dev Kind Regards, Dave Walker You want 'libtagc0-dev' not 'libtag1-dev'. Regards Phil Just FYI, the full list of build deps are: libxml2-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libdbus-1-dev libhal-dev libgnomevfs2-dev libtagc0-dev Note: A lot of package dependencies will be installed. :-) The application builds and links fine here on 7.10. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can i ask a very techie related question?regarding firmware on my MP3 player!!!
2008/6/16 Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sorry , a bit confused now so which one to install then?and the package dependencies, i can avoid those?i guess not! btw im using hardy! On 16/06/2008, Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/16 Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/16 Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok i will try and input tha command...although i think i already have those installed! Thank you Dave! On 16/06/2008, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: SNIP http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697579 I get the exact same error. Can anyone advise as to what it means ...and how to solve it? SNIP Hi Javad, Try to install the following packages: $ sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev libtag1-dev Kind Regards, Dave Walker You want 'libtagc0-dev' not 'libtag1-dev'. Regards Phil Just FYI, the full list of build deps are: libxml2-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libdbus-1-dev libhal-dev libgnomevfs2-dev libtagc0-dev Note: A lot of package dependencies will be installed. :-) The application builds and links fine here on 7.10. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Make sure you have the list of 7 packages above installed. Yes, you will need to accept and install the dependencies I'm afraid. The app builds on Hardy too. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless adapter not showing in Network settings Was: Problems installing Ndiswrapper in Wubi 8.04
2008/6/10 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to install ndiswrapper in Wubi 8.04. It is not available in the native package list, and when I wired the laptop into the network, and tried apt-get I got the message that the date-time stamp was too far in the future! Eh? How does THAT work? OK so I got Ndiswrapper installed, the Realtek 8187b Win98 driver is installed, if I issue all the modprobe commands, there are no errors. The GUI for Ndiswrapper tells me the drive is installed and the hardware is present. However, if I go to Network settings, the wireless adapter does NOT show up. I've tried forcing the load, everything. Still no-show. HELP! Have you followed instructions and done as below? - Install *ndiswrapper-utils-1.9* via your preferred method. - From the terminal run: *sudo ndiswrapper -i /your_path_to/wireless_driver.inf* - We now check if the driver has correctly installed. From the terminal run: *ndiswrapper -l*. If all is good you will see the following output: sis163u : driver installed - device (0BF8:100F) present - Next we do the dependencies and load up the ndiswrapper kernel module. Run: *sudo depmod -a* followed by *sudo modprobe ndiswrapper*. This will load everything and allow you to use NetworkManagerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManagerto check if any wireless networks are available. Note: Rebooting will drop the module. - To have the module loaded at every boot add *ndiswrapper* to a newline at the bottom of */etc/modules*. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless LAN problem
2008/6/6 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Installed WUBI 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite L40 that uses the Realtek 8187 WLan chip. I went to this site http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/http://www.datanorth.net/%7Ecuervo/rtl8187b/for the driver, followed the instructions there but ran into a problem. On issuing the ./makedrv command, this happened: rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.mod.* *.ko *.o *~ make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build M=/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211 CC=gcc modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in /home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211/Makefile. Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. make[1]: *** [_module_/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' make: *** [modules] Error 2 rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko *~ make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build M=/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187 CC=gcc modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in /home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187/Makefile. Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. make[1]: *** [_module_/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' make: *** [modules] Error 2 Then when trying the ./wlan0up command I got this: ./wlan0up insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_wep-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_tkip-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_ccmp-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'r8187.ko': No such file or directory Can anyone divine from all that what has gone wrong and whether it's a problem caused by using WUBI instead of a proper install? Thanks See 8187 section near bottom about blacklisted driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] my new lap-top
2008/6/6 London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It does not hibernate or suspend- can anyone help? and as I write, the letters keep getting jumbled up- as if I was mad but I'm not. I am using Hardy Heron. Cheers, Caroline -- Whats the laptop make and model? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] my new lap-top
2008/6/6 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: It does not hibernate or suspend- can anyone help? and as I write, the letters keep getting jumbled up- as if I was mad but I'm not. I am using Hardy Heron. Cheers, Caroline What make/model laptop is it? Someone on the list might have the same model. I found that with regards to hibernation, if you don't have a swap partition larger than the amount of physical memory in your machine it won't hibernate. Not sure how much more though, I've generally got away with a 1.5GB swap partition in my 1GB laptop and it hibernates okay (Dell Latitude D610). Rob We should forget swap partitions unless someone specifies a custom one and work by a default install where the created swap partition is double the amount of physical RAM. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless LAN problem
2008/6/6 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/6/6 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Installed WUBI 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite L40 that uses the Realtek 8187 WLan chip. I went to this site http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/http://www.datanorth.net/%7Ecuervo/rtl8187b/for the driver, followed the instructions there but ran into a problem. On issuing the ./makedrv command, this happened: rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.mod.* *.ko *.o *~ make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build M=/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211 CC=gcc modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in /home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211/Makefile. Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. make[1]: *** [_module_/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/ieee80211] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' make: *** [modules] Error 2 rm -fr *.mod.c *.mod *.o .*.cmd *.ko *~ make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build M=/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187 CC=gcc modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in /home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187/Makefile. Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop. make[1]: *** [_module_/home/gordon/rtl8187b-modified/rtl8187] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic' make: *** [modules] Error 2 Then when trying the ./wlan0up command I got this: ./wlan0up insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_wep-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_tkip-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_ccmp-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'ieee80211-rtl.ko': No such file or directory insmod: can't read 'r8187.ko': No such file or directory Can anyone divine from all that what has gone wrong and whether it's a problem caused by using WUBI instead of a proper install? Thanks See 8187 section near bottom about blacklisted driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 Regards Phil -- I tried that - it said fatal error, can't find module -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com There are running issue with the 8187 under hardy. Hardy should be regarded as beta software as it was released way before it should have been. Wait for 8.04.1 next month for a more stable and usable system. Most folks using 7.10 are using the 8187 with no real issues. Many folks seem to be going the ndiswrapper route for the 8187: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678094 You may wish to go this way for now. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] my new lap-top
2008/6/6 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Philip Wyett wrote: We should forget swap partitions unless someone specifies a custom one and work by a default install where the created swap partition is double the amount of physical RAM. Regards Phil Even when dual booting with Windows? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com I would always keep to the double the physical RAM for swap. But then I don't dual boot and use other machines to have Windows on. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] my new lap-top
2008/6/6 London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/6 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: It does not hibernate or suspend- can anyone help? and as I write, the letters keep getting jumbled up- as if I was mad but I'm not. I am using Hardy Heron. Cheers, Caroline What make/model laptop is it? Someone on the list might have the same model. I found that with regards to hibernation, if you don't have a swap partition larger than the amount of physical memory in your machine it won't hibernate. Not sure how much more though, I've generally got away with a 1.5GB swap partition in my 1GB laptop and it hibernates okay (Dell Latitude D610). Rob *Hi, Dell Inspiron 1525* ** * Cheers, Caroline* -- Whats the output (from the terminal) of command: sudo lshw Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Online banking
2008/6/5 keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just upgraded to Hardy Heron and tried to access my online Natwest Bank page, only to be confronted with a message telling me that my browser (Firefox 3) is not acceptable. I have spoken to the bank's online banking department and I might just as well have been speaking to next door's cat for all the help they were. Has anyone else come across this problem and been able to resolve it? Cheers, Keith. I have the same issue with RBS. A support request for the sniffer script to be updated is in. :-) Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop wallpaper, icons and bluetooth broken in Hardy
2008/5/16 Jack Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, wallpaper and icons **were** working, until yesterday's package updates. I get a message about HAL failing to start on login now also. I 'm running compiz-fusion on dual head with NVidia 7000 series card with 512Mb. Both screens are at 1280x1024. Apart from the above, cube etc. works OK. Only google results I can find relate to a similar scenario using different resolutions on dual screens. Since upgrading from Gutsy to Hardy, now unable to send files over bluetooth TO the PC from a phone. Can do in opposite direction. Any ideas welcome. My honest advice would be a move back to 7.10. There are so many issues with 8.04 it is untrue and for an LTS release that would suggest well tested and stable, it is nothing more than a bad joke I'm afraid; and I have placed an embargo on the release until it is stable and hopefully a cd respin i.e. 8.04.1 is done that I can use without hassle and I can recommend to others. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ODF Petition
On 06/04/2008, Dianne Reuby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: signed Dianne Signed -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stop Ubuntu
On 15/12/2007, Dennis Holdroyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have constant messages downloading to my e-mail I only asked a question with regard to my new ubuntu download not one answer did I get yet a load of rubbish with stupid abbreviations that only the senders are in the know about. How do I get rid. I will dump ubuntu of my machine if I do not get more sense out of the so called community. I have never ever had a reply to any question asked. -- Dennis B. Holdroyd -- Hi Dennis, Which list did you send the email to? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
On 04/05/07, Dominic Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ntl service provided by the Set Top Box (i.e. using the Ethernet port in the STB) required that MAC addresses be registered. The ntl service provided using a separate, external cable modem did not. Dom Michael Erskine wrote: On Friday 04 May 2007 13:17:21 James Tait wrote: I've documented the required process for both on LiveJournal (I can find links if anyone's interested), but it boils down to this: when you first connect your computer to the cable modem, you should get a private IP address via DHCP. You need to register your MAC address (along with your account number and PIN I think), which is done via a web interface. Then you'll be told to reboot your computer, after which you get a public IP address via DHCP. One thing to note here, and I only mention it because your post has reminded me, MAC address changes don't seem to matter: I have quite happily changed routers connected to my cable modem without any need to contact NTL. Regards, Michael Erskine. No STB or external connection for NTL, Telewest or other has required an MAC registration now for over two years. If any person asks for this on a service call, please just remind them that this has not been required for a long time and if they need clarification to call QA for the company who will give them what they need to know. If anyone has any further issues, please email me and I will help resolve the issue directly. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty default package list
On 04/05/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 14:56 +0100, Michael Erskine wrote: I can't seem to find a list of packages installed by default on Feisty. Could someone point me at one? It's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop I think -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274 Best thing to do is pull the ubuntu-desktop source and you will get a complete listing of the packages installed. There are the required packages and the recommended etc. with the recommended can be removed without hurting the base desktop install e.g. gome games etc. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
On 04/05/07, David Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing to note here, and I only mention it because your post has reminded me, MAC address changes don't seem to matter: I have quite happily changed routers connected to my cable modem without any need to contact NTL. The NTL registration only covers registering the modems MAC address against your account., it doesn't touch the MAC address of your PC's network card Dave Neil Even cable modem MAC addresses against your account haven't mattered for a long long time. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] noika usb file transfer
On 25/04/07, baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone help with this? I've got a Nokia 6288, I can browse the files on it from Ubuntu but when I try to copy pictures from the phone to my laptop it takes ages and times out and the phone unmounts well before the file is copied. Any ideas? Baz -- Doing a quick google I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102965 Have you tried this under 7.04 (feisty fawn)? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Forums
On 18/03/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked out the ubuntuforums.org earlier today to see whether or not there was a UK LoCo section there. I was a little surprised to read that the mailing list had voted not to have a presence at ubuntuforums.org and I have a little difficulty understanding why. Surely in this day and age, forums are a viable alternative to mailing lists, and even preferable in some situations. I wondered if the decision to opt out of ubuntuforums.org was influenced by a fear of such a presence damaging the usage of the mailing list. Whilst I can see why this might be a slap in the face to people who have invested so much time into building up the mailing list, surely if people would prefer to communicate through the forums, it'd be a good idea to use them and 'grow' the community. I am - I know making the assumption that people prefer forums, but I think in general this assumption seems to be true. Where mailing lists are the mainstay of open source and linux communication I think forums would give the group a higher profile and encourage a far greater interaction with the community. Does anyone else agree or am I alone? Is there any harm in requesting a UK LoCo forum? Chris I have been asked why I do not help folks in the forums of another OSS project I develop for before and this was my general answer: 'I can filter and manage inbound mail far easier than browsing forums and more often than not I can pick and choose what to look at higher speeds on my local drive using searches rather than in a forum where I am held back by server/connection speeds. It is also far easier to track my responses via sent mail items rather than trying to track anything on a forum.' Time is also a massive issue. Personally I have bill paying work, OSS work and what I a laughingly call a life away from computers (a beer or ten occasionally :-D). So reading so many messages across many support platforms just ain't feasible! Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
On 14/03/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let Dell know what you want and how you want it! http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Done :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux
On 03/03/07, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/03/07, Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/03/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Webb wrote: I am thinking about swithcing to ubuntu, Welcome! but I use an AOL ADSL modem to access the internet. This will not work well with linux (apparently the eccisadsl drivers may be uncompatible). Therefore, I a router to replace it with. I have found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-5-Port-100-Switch-SD205/dp/B000225CXG/ref=sr_1_75/203-8642488-2050310?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1172871998sr=1-75 This does not seem as if it includes an ADSL modem, it looks like just a switch only. I believe you are looking for an ADSL modem/router combination unit. This unit will have at least one ethernet out socket (port) to connect to your network card in the PC. Already answered this. Some units may have (more) 4 ports, which can be very useful in future when you also want to connect up a laptop temporarilty or the spare PC you can now use easily with linux(!) Expandability is a user preference. The mailer specified that he would be really only attaching one PC and had a specific budget. I did offer alternatives that were supported by his provider, but he stated he only had certain requirements and asked if a certain bit of hardware would do the job. Based on this I looked at the hardware providers manuals and gave an assessment. It is good to have the elements of hardware firewall that are included in most such modem/routers for example: Technical Details ADSL 2/2+ Modem Router Single port Stateful Packet Inspection firewall Cost Effective Solution MAC Address filtering Quick Setup Wizard (for the modem part, for windows software) You do not get similar 'firewall' protection when using a usb connection from the modem. The solwise unit mentioed elsewhere in this thread http://www.amazon.co.uk/Solwise-ADSL-SAR-600E-Single-ADSL2+-Router/dp/B000IB9R3C/ref=sr_1_8/203-8642488-2050310?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1172874514sr=1-8 looks like a nice item, although I see it has only a single port. It also does not specifically say that the setup menus may be accessed via a browser (web, HTTP) interface Even looking at the quick setup guide shows you there is access via a browser with the default username of 'admin' and password of 'admin'. snip Regards Phil Dear Phil, I have recently switched from Windows XP to Ubuntu on my desktop- I am using an Alcatel Speed Touch Pro router.(with one port) I have just bought a secondhand laptop which also has Ubuntu- and I was interested in the possibility of getting a router with more than one port-have you come across one? I see you mention it here but without any specs- so I was not sure if it was wishful thinking? Also can you tell me where I could purchase one? Thanks. Caroline (lsp) Hi Caroline, DSL modem routers with multiple ports are quite common. As I live in Bradford, I tend to shop at CCL for most of my kit and have never had an issue with level of service being very good. You can see a listing of DSL modem routers using the link below. http://www.cclonline.com/product-categories.asp?category_id=160 Personally... I still use an old DLINK that I have been using since DSL came out and until it dies I'm not going to rush to change it. :-) Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] my laptop
On 03/03/07, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a secondhand Dell laptop- bought with nothing on it...and now I have Ubuntu- the person who set it up for me says there is a problem with it recognising a wireless signal...does that make sense to anyone? Can something be done about this? Caroline (lsp) Hi Caroline, What is the model of the laptop and which version of Ubuntu are you running? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux
On 02/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about swithcing to ubuntu, but I use an AOL ADSL modem to access the internet. This will not work well with linux (apparently the eccisadsl drivers may be uncompatible). Therefore, I a router to replace it with. I have found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-5-Port-100-Switch-SD205/dp/B000225CXG/ref=sr_1_75/203-8642488-2050310?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1172871998sr=1-75 1) Is it a fairly decent deal (I want to buy new) 2) Will this work for what I want (just plugging the DSL into one socket and then plugging into the PC (Dell™ Dimension™ 5150C) using an ethernet cable). Thanks in advance, Ben Webb What you want to do is very dependant on your modem. If it does not support ethernet you cannot use it on the switch and by the looks of the spec it has no uplink WAN port. If you wish to buy a wired or wireless DSL modem router that will work and is also supported by AOL, you can get either of the following as a couple of examples of switches that include DSL modem that are not dependant on an OS or drivers. - Netgear DG834 - 4 port Wired Modem Router - Netgear DG834G - 4 port 54Mbps Wireless ADSL Modem Router http://info.aol.co.uk/broadband/homeNetworking.adp?promo=228937promoCode=228937#modemList Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Thinking about switching to linux
On 02/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/03/07, Philip Wyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about swithcing to ubuntu, but I use an AOL ADSL modem to access the internet. This will not work well with linux (apparently the eccisadsl drivers may be uncompatible). Therefore, I a router to replace it with. I have found this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-5-Port-100-Switch-SD205/dp/B000225CXG/ref=sr_1_75/203-8642488-2050310?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1172871998sr=1-75 1) Is it a fairly decent deal (I want to buy new) 2) Will this work for what I want (just plugging the DSL into one socket and then plugging into the PC (Dell™ Dimension™ 5150C) using an ethernet cable). Thanks in advance, Ben Webb What you want to do is very dependant on your modem. If it does not support ethernet you cannot use it on the switch and by the looks of the spec it has no uplink WAN port. If you wish to buy a wired or wireless DSL modem router that will work and is also supported by AOL, you can get either of the following as a couple of examples of switches that include DSL modem that are not dependant on an OS or drivers. Netgear DG834 - 4 port Wired Modem Router Netgear DG834G - 4 port 54Mbps Wireless ADSL Modem Router http://info.aol.co.uk/broadband/homeNetworking.adp?promo=228937promoCode=228937#modemList Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Thanks for the response. I currently use a USB modem which is why it will not work with Ubuntu, and I wanted to replace it with a router. However, I got the wrong item as I need an ASDL modem built in. What about this item instead: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Solwise-ADSL-SAR-600E-Single-ADSL2%2B-Router/dp/B000IB9R3C/ref=sr_1_8/203-8642488-2050310?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1172874514sr=1-8 It is in more of my price range and I am probably only going to have 1 computer on the internet. Seeing as its using ethernet it will work with Ubuntu won't it? Thanks Ben Webb P.S. Any better deals would be appreciated. Looking at the quick setup guide at: http://www.solwiseforum.co.uk/downloads/files/sar600e-qsg-vr1.pdf I can see no issue why this would not work. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] what's happened to ubuntu-uk ?
On 20/02/07, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering the same thing! Maybe everyone is just quietly enjoying Ubuntu and not posting because 'it just works'! Grrr Tell me about it! I love Ubuntu and free software but its hard to write and blog about and get enthusiatic about things that just work as I expect them to. Ive got to use windows just to remind myself of why I left Windows in the first place! it Jut works needs to be our slogan or some variation because honestly for how I use a Desktop PC , Ubuntu It Works for me is all I can tell people. Though I think most people want the hard work and bad experiences just so they have something to gripe about ! It's true Ubuntu releases work great, but there is more the UK LoCoTeam could concentrate on like conferences and bring the OS to new users here on our little island or get involved in improving documentation etc. If you really want to see Ubuntu with the odd problem and bug, you need to play with the pre releases such as Feisty Fawn and help/watch the OS take shape before it's official release. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] what's happened to ubuntu-uk ?
On 20/02/07, ged byrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's happened to ubuntu-uk mailing list ?..I haven't had any mail from it since 16/2/07. I can't believe it's been so quiet for so long. You lot never shut up. Let's get the show on the road. Ged. I don't think it helps that a lot of us have quite a bit going on and only a small amount of time to give for UKTeam activities. If we could draw up a wish list of things people would like to see or get help with etc. it may help in livening up the lists and activities. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)
On 12/02/07, James Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: You also need to carefully define your target eg the huge population of semi-bored computer-illiterates might be more productive than experienced-with-windows men-in-the-street ? You may very well be right. I think especially with people who are not already seasoned/regular computer users and are just deciding to venture in to this brave new world and buy a PC at home for the first time, one very important question they will ask is What do you use?, shortly followed by Why?. I think this type of campaign would be particularly effective for these people. That's not to say that I don't think it has a potential audience among the Windows-faithful. I still believe that Vista is an opportunity for Ubuntu to come to the fore, with people who would normally have said I'm buying a PC, therefore I'll get/need a copy of Windows now pausing for a moment to consider the alternatives. Again, such a campaign would, I think, prove effective. I do have regular Windows users asking me about Linux and I'm more than happy to tell them what it is and why I use it. It hasn't yet resulted in any full-blown conversions, but the message is beginning to get across. And once they get the message, they will tell their grandchildren. Indeed. Up until now, conventional wisdom has suggested that having a PC means running Windows. With more visibility to those not already acquainted with FLOSS and more positive association, I think we will see a snowball effect. JT Promoting GNU Linux I've always found to be on a case by case basis with most even after discussion preferring to stick with the devil they know. Over the years I have had success with complete converts and limited success with others, getting them to use apps like Firefox and Open Office on their Windows machines. Best success I've found is appealing to peoples wallets, security benefits and showing people the alternate day to day apps for web browsing, office work, email, chat etc. that they would get on a GNU Linux system; the fact the Ubuntu desktop looks nice and is simple eases a lot of peoples fears and helps with making people comfortable. Though I will note that I do drop the default panel layout and change it to be more Windows with a single panel at the bottom of the screen. Vista I do not see as that much of an opportunity but a greater threat to GNU Linux than XP was. I currently run two Vista systems and both are very good and stable. One thing that does erk me sometimes is people who push the thousands of apps in the repositories when most normal folks only use a small core of applications. A real annoyance is when people fire up synaptic and see what are quite frankly rubbish descriptions for apps and libs etc. that sometimes leave even me wondering what the hell is that really. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal
On 09/02/07, Dean Sas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Wyett wrote: Hi all, I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have some serious reservations about it. Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation? Not according to the FAQ that was released with the press release. We are to get some CNR like features eventually. I imagine this could tie in to the new totem hook which prompts you to enable multiverse and install codecs when playing patent encumbered videos, only perhaps referring you to CNR rather than the legally questionable packages. Well... In the FAQ we can see CNR is added to the standard Ubuntu software installation method to complement existing functionality. This covers a multitude of sins and could mean many implementation methods. Someone needs to come out and honestly say what is the initial plans at this time; and make sure that person does not work in any PR or marketing department. Ubuntu - Linux for human beings and not Linux to confuse the crap out of folks with more software installation methods than you can shake a stick at. Other vendors have it right on this with many other software companies ... Here is the way you do it - The one way. How can anything be for human beings when you can get I installed this via this and this via that and now I have an issue - It will cause so many problems for both users and add a large overhead to the developers. We currently have add/remove programs and synaptic, update-manager has a similar purpose too... These all pull from the same repositories, thus no additional overhead. Adding CNR means an additional 'uncontrolled' source of apps with possible build differences that could make MS DLL hell and RPM dep problems look like quite minor annoyances. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Completely off topic
On 07/02/07, Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Allman-Talbot wrote: Most people (for example, me) travel around a lot. My car is never in a place that I am not, therefore the it will know where I am too. You never use trains? You never get lifts? You never walk anywhere? Lifts? Is that the up and down type? :-) Climate change happens naturally, with or without human intervention around every 150,000 years and we are long overdue. The effects we are seeing now are exactly the same as those seen by our ancestors, except they didn't have pollution to blame. Yeah, that's a lovely story, but it is scientific fact that global warming is caused by pollution. Simple as that. I'm always dubious of calling anything a scientific fact as many scientific facts tend to get ripped to bits over time. I would go with scientific theory personally. Did you know that a single, one-way transatlantic flight creates more pollution than every single motor racing event on earth put together does in one whole year? If you're going to blame anyone for creating pollution, it's not drivers. And, of course, if a single measure won't fix everything, why bother with it at all? Personally i think this new type of road taxing is just a money making scheme, as if they don't have enough up their sleeves. No, that's true. The NHS is incredibly well funded and all of our schools are supreme. Oh, hold on, that doesn't sound right... The NHS can be regarded as well funded. Throwing money at something does not make it good. Take a certain OS that has 90 plus percent of the market and is regarded as poor by a lot of people and the relatively poorly funded software projects that make up what is regarded as a good and very secure OS! :-D As for speed limits, i wholly agree with them but i wholly disagree with the way in which they are enforced. As an average, casualties in an area can actually increase when a speed camera is put in to place because drivers suddenly turn their attention to their speedometer instead of the road infront of them. Then you should clearly have no problem with being tracked all the time, as there's nowhere specific that will become a danger point. This is an argument in favour of introducing these devices. I have no problem with being tracked. Home to work. Then work to pub the to home. Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGRadio Live 2007 and Ubuntu UK
On 05/02/07, john levin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jono Bacon wrote: Hi all, We have just announced LUGRadio Live 2007 in Wolverhampton on the 7th and 8th July, and I am keen to have an Ubuntu UK presence there. Would you chaps like to have a think about what to do at the event. I am thinking a bunch of BOFs and an exhibition stand would be cool. :) Maybe someone could stick a wiki page up to begin preparation. :) Jono Wiki page created, and linked from the Ubuntu UK home page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LugRadioLive2007 As I ran the Ubuntu stall at previous LRLs, I'll be happy to take responsibility for the organising etc. Last year Kubuntu organised separately, and there was a lot of interest in Edubuntu. We should try to co-ordinate efforts, and have a strong edubuntu presence. John For those who have not been present in previous years. Can you detail the Ubuntu related activities etc. that have been going on at LUG Radio Live? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Organising Local Meetings
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 17:06 +0100, Adam Challis wrote: Location Manchester seems popular so far. Personally I'm easy about location as long as I can get there by train or bus. For those who cant get to Manchester, any suggestions about where might be good for you, thats still pretty accessible? Joining with Manchester LUG I'm a split on this issue. I've listed some pros and cons that I can think of below. Pros - People who are already involved. They are running an installfest on the October 21st of various distros, including Ubuntu (dapper and a couple of edgy cd's). - Established meeting place! Con - Would we appear as trying to take over? Are we trying to form our own identity as an Ubuntu group, or would we be better off as part of the Manchester LUG? Jono did write (11/09) * Try to work with local LUGs to encourage combined meetings. Might be an idea to split the meetings? Alter between an Ubuntu group meeting and a Man LUG? That way we get a chance to develop our own identity without taking over a pre-existing group (hopefully we will grow from more than a handful). Adam C Daniel: GnuPG comes up on my machine as saying Signature issued by a non-valid key. I'm not to sure what that means but thought you'd want to know. === Adam Challis e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype : adam_challis GnuPG Fingerprint: 4564 8FD0 98C0 18C4 1EB3 F846 9753 C6FD F888 0C51 There really needs to be no appearance of anyone taking over a LUG or any of it's events. The Ubuntu UK teams involvement with LUGs and their events should be rightly seen as a plus point having users and developers like ourselves who are so deeply involved in Ubuntu chipping in to help and hopefully enhancing their event(s). When events can be organised and I am able to attend. If it requires a little travel, I will be able to have my better half take me and we will be able to offer lifts to those in our area. Our second car is a Volvo estate, so transporting a few PC's is not a problem. ;-) Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making our wiki page look nicer
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 17:45 +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 15:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just done a bit on it but I'm sure there's more information that can go on there. Cool. :) Yeah, I think there is a lot of potential to fill it with interesting information. I think we should look at the page as if we had heard of the Ubuntu UK team and what kind of information we would want to know. I suspect that would be: * What does ubuntu-uk do? * What does getting involved...involve :P * When and where are meetings? * What are the Mailing list / IRC details? the I reckon if we can satisfy this and make it simple and easy to read, we are onto a winner. :) Jono I've changed the meetings section to make it known that non members who are interested in the team are welcome at meetings. I have also removed the drinks reference as it makes the team look like a lads drink club and I believe after recent discussion about women using Ubuntu, this is not the impression we wish to promote. Right, I'm off to get another beer from the fridge. ;-) Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Making our wiki page look nicer
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 17:45 +0100, Jono Bacon wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 15:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just done a bit on it but I'm sure there's more information that can go on there. Cool. :) Yeah, I think there is a lot of potential to fill it with interesting information. I think we should look at the page as if we had heard of the Ubuntu UK team and what kind of information we would want to know. I suspect that would be: * What does ubuntu-uk do? * What does getting involved...involve :P * When and where are meetings? * What are the Mailing list / IRC details? I reckon if we can satisfy this and make it simple and easy to read, we are onto a winner. :) Jono The overly long visible links to other pages I think make the page look messy. Would anybody object to me shortening them but keeping them relevant? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Women, LinuxWorld, Stuff
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 20:21 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 19:47 +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: I was thinking earlier that as far as I'm aware the LoCoTeam has no female members. There must be some women in the UK who use Ubuntu? Oh of course there are, but using it is one thing, spending time advocating the use of it is another. I'll speak to my wife who uses Ubuntu on her computer, but I suspect that given she gave birth to our son under a week ago, I'd be willing to bet her answer is no, not right now darling or words to that effect :). I've posted in the Ubuntu women section on the Ubuntu forums to see if I can generate any interest. I'm sure some of you have converted wives/friends/sisters/girlfriends/daughters etc. Yes, under some small duress I converted my wife's computer from XP to Debian some time ago then more recently to Ubuntu (for consistency across all our machines). who could get involved. Again, not sure she would be willing to get involved. I have been meaning to write an article for some time about how we converted her from XP to Linux and what obstacles were encountered. Unfortunately it's so long ago now I've almost forgotten the early ones. I'm sure that if there are women who need support for Ubuntu they would feel more comfortable meeting up with another woman. Definately. We (Hampshire Linux User Group) have run a number of InfoPoints and two women in the LUG have attended and helped run many of them. (as a side note I know one runs Suse and the other runs Ubuntu). I understand from speaking to them that they do indeed find people (of both sexes) often find the women more approachable. We actually also have some very approachable guys in the team too, but preconceptions of visitors often means they go to the women first I guess. I was also thinking that maybe it would be good to have a woman or 2 at the LinuxWorld booth to show that it's not just geeky men who use linux? I'll ask on my local LUG to see if any women are willing to help. /me awaits inevitable comments about booth babes . I'd stay well clear of comments about booth babes. Cheers, Al. If no ladies can attend, maybe a few who use Ubuntu could write some form of short testimonials that could be available for viewing on the UK team web page. I'm sure I could work with my better half and get her to put something together. She was my tester of 6.06 in order to give me an idea of Ubuntu stability before I made the switch on my laptop and other machines from RH based distributions. She is quite vocal about how much faster Ubuntu is over XP on the same PC and how GNU Linux provides her with the daily peace of mind because of it's security so she can just get on with what she wants to do. It also really helps that she loves the Same Gnome game. :-D Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
