Re: Telstra

[Ronda Brown]

Why the Telstra Share Price Sank This Week
https://www.moneymorning.com.au/20170217/telstra-share-price-sank-asxu.html

Cheers,
Ronni
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> On 17 Mar 2017, at 4:08 pm, Alan Fenton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I have my 5 lost email  accounts working again after Telstra finally 
> reactivated them.
> Now my email account tied to my new Hot spot modem is a subscription. ( I 
> will have to pay $79 per year)
> I am now looking into the subscription.
> Gmail looks to be a good alternative.
> 
> Has anyone noticed Telstra share price going down? I wonder why?
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Re: Telstra

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Alan,

Your options are endless - depending on what you actually want.

Rob & Ronni are coming from the approach of "let's see if we can fix the
problem" ie look at how you are managing your Telsta email accounts to see
if the problem can be fixed.

As we all know, Ronni is a whiz at ferreting out all sorts of problems - so
work with her if you want to do this.

However your response suggests that you have no real interest in addressing
the Telstra problem and just want to take Telstra out of the equation and
set-up some alternative email accounts?

I'm sure many of us can sympathise with the difficulties of dealing with
Telstra - They lost my internet account many ears ago (to Internode) and I
recently moved my landline to Internode also. However I still have my mobile
with Telstra (for the country coverage) and must admit that, in more recent
dealings, their service seems much improved.

I also have a legacy Bigpond email account, which continues to work without
problems, and which Telstra keeps alive, free of charge - which, I think, is
pretty generous of them.

If you want/need to move away from Telstra and find a new mail provider -
here are a few things you might want to consider:

1. Your ISP will, no doubt, offer you a number of email accounts as part of
your internet package - of course if your ISP is Telstra this is no help
unless you also want to change ISP.
2. Email accounts with your ISP are generally lost if/when you change ISP
providers - this tends to keep many people "locked in" to their ISP to avoid
the hassle of changing email addresses.
3. Free email accounts like Hotmail (very popular in the past) or Gmail
(more popular now) have their own pros & cons - which Google will find
plenty of opinion on!  My observation is that if you are not paying for the
product then you ARE the product - think why Google is worth billions of
dollars! 
4. One way of having a number of email accounts which are "yours" is to
register your own domain and then set-up separate email accounts eg:
> * a...@yourdomain.com
> * m...@yourdomain.com
> * m...@yourdomain.com
5. Using your own domain requires a certain amount of IT nous (though not
that much!) and lets you use and change different ISPs without disruption to
your email accounts. Several WAMUG members (including me) use this approach.

At the end of the day there is no "best" solution - just one which meets
your particular circumstances, needs and preferences.



Cheers




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on 15/3/17 10:45 AM, Alan Fenton at alc...@bigpond.com wrote:

> Hello,
> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email
> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company.
> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail.
> From Alan.
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>> 
>> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this
>> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem
>>> and  added to my Telstra account.
>>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
>>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
>>> I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having
>>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
>>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail
>>> account.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>  From Alan.

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[Graeme Winters]

Hi Alan
Yes having a Gmail account allows you to chose your provider.
I do have a Bigpond email address but do not use it

Graeme
> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
> Rob
> 
> 
> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
>> Hello.
>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem 
>> and  added to my Telstra account.
>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
>> I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail 
>> account.
>> Any suggestions?
>>  From Alan.
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Re: Telstra

[Alan Fenton]

Hello.
Thanks for the info but I was asking for suggestions for  email accounts not 
with a phone company, such as Gmail and Hotmail so I can change phone companies 
and not lose my email account.
 From Alan.

> On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:23 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> Check your mail account settings.
> IMAP settings for Telstra Mail™
> IMAP is the recommended setting for Telstra Mail customers
> 
> Account type
> 
> Account type: IMAP
> Incoming server details
> 
> Incoming server address: imap.telstra.com 
> Incoming server port: 993
> Encrypted connection: SSL
> Outgoing server details
> 
> Outgoing server address: smtp.telstra.com 
> Outgoing server port: 465 (recommended) or 587
> SMTP authentication: On
> Encrypted connection: SSL/TLS on port 465 (recommended) or STARTTLS on port 
> 587
> Username & Password
> 
> Enter your full email address (ending in ‘@bigpond.com’, ‘@bigpond.net.au’ or 
> ‘@telstra.com’)
> Enter your Telstra email account password (case sensitive)
> Other settings to check
> 
> Ensure the checkbox is ticked for ‘Outgoing server requires authentication’.
> 
> 
> https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile
>  
> >
> 
>   
> >
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
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Re: Telstra

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Alan,
Check your mail account settings.
IMAP settings for Telstra Mail™
IMAP is the recommended setting for Telstra Mail customers

Account type

Account type: IMAP
Incoming server details

Incoming server address: imap.telstra.com
Incoming server port: 993
Encrypted connection: SSL
Outgoing server details

Outgoing server address: smtp.telstra.com
Outgoing server port: 465 (recommended) or 587
SMTP authentication: On
Encrypted connection: SSL/TLS on port 465 (recommended) or STARTTLS on port 587
Username & Password

Enter your full email address (ending in ‘@bigpond.com’, ‘@bigpond.net.au’ or 
‘@telstra.com’)
Enter your Telstra email account password (case sensitive)
Other settings to check

Ensure the checkbox is ticked for ‘Outgoing server requires authentication’.


https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/email/set-up/set-up-telstra-email-on-the-bigpond-platform-on-your-tablet-or-mobile
 
>

>

Cheers,
Ronni

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> On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:11 am, Alan Fenton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> All show in Host Name.   imap.telstra.com .
> 
> From Alan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:00 am, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alan,
>> 
>> As Rob has mentioned --
>> Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP?
>> Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email 
>>> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. 
>>> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail.
>>> From Alan.
>>> 
 On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips > wrote:
 
 Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
 information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
 Rob
 
 
 On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
> Hello.
> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot 
> modem and  added to my Telstra account.
> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
> I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail 
> account.
> Any suggestions?
> From Alan.


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[Alan Fenton]

Hello.
All show in Host Name.   imap.telstra.com .

From Alan.





> On 15 Mar 2017, at 11:00 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> As Rob has mentioned --
> Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP?
> Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP 
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email 
>> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. 
>> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail.
>> From Alan.
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
>>> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
 Hello.
 Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot 
 modem and  added to my Telstra account.
 Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
 Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
 I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
 Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
 A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail 
 account.
 Any suggestions?
 From Alan.
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[Ronni Brown]

Hello Alan,

As Rob has mentioned --
Are all the email accounts IMAP or POP?
Telstra Mail recommends using IMAP 

Regards,
Ronni

> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:45 am, Alan Fenton  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email 
> account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. 
> So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail.
> From Alan.
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>> 
>> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
>> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem 
>>> and  added to my Telstra account.
>>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
>>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
>>> I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
>>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
>>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail 
>>> account.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> From Alan.
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[Alan Fenton]

Hello,
The accounts are all Telstra. Telstra is at fault. I want to get an email 
account that is not with Telstra or any other phone company. 
So that is why I was suggested Gmail and Hotmail.
>From Alan.

> On 15 Mar 2017, at 10:38 am, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
> information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)
> Rob
> 
> 
> On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:
>> Hello.
>> Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem 
>> and  added to my Telstra account.
>> Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
>> Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
>> I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
>> Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
>> A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail 
>> account.
>> Any suggestions?
>>  From Alan.
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Who are your accounts with, and do they use IMAP or POP? Without this 
information Ronni won't be able to solve your problem.. :-)

Rob


On 15/3/17 10:16 am, Alan Fenton wrote:

Hello.
Telstra lost 5 email accounts Monday when I updated my mobile hotspot modem and 
 added to my Telstra account.
Tuesday night I got back 4 accounts.
Today rang telstra to get last account. Waiting for return call.
I have  this problem when I update telstra hardware due I think to having 
Bigpond and Telstra faulty links between my account.
A person at Telstra shop in Armadale suggested I get a Gmail or Hotmail account.
Any suggestions?
  From Alan.
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[John Daniels]

Thanks Tim
Sounds good

Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Oct 2015, at 9:15 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> John I've had Telstra cable for several years. I moved from ADSL because the 
> copper wires in my street were an ongoing problem in winter with the moisture 
> causing problems. I had foxtel instal cable years ago for free when they were 
> rolling it out, then stopped using it not long after.
> 
> Cable internet has been great. Recently Telstra gave me, unsolicited, a new 
> Gateway Max modem/router and a three month free upgrade to their fast 
> service. I used to pay for 100gb, which they upgraded to 200gb, then 500gb at 
> no extra cost. Neat.
> 
> The new router and faster service is very nice. My first speedtest.net result 
> was 110mbps download and 2.4mbps upload, up from the 30/1 I was used to. By 
> the way, this was measured via wifi on my iPad. Cat5 Ethernet tends to be 
> slower, -- around 70mbps.
> 
> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1412793787
> 
> I recommend it.  Speed doesn't vary much due to down the road usage.
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
> 
>> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:51 PM, John Daniels  wrote:
>> 
>> I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years 
>> but I'm interested to know if they have improved.
>> I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb 
>> sometimes being so slow it's frustrating.
>> 
>> Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 
>> 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2
>> 
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Re: Telstra

[Rob Phillips]

First find out when the NBN is coming to you. They might be locking you 
into something inferior once the NBN arrives.


Cheers
Rob

On 23/10/2015 8:51 pm, John Daniels wrote:

I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years 
but I'm interested to know if they have improved.
I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb sometimes 
being so slow it's frustrating.

Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 2years. 
Same price within $2 of Westnet.

Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2

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[John Daniels]

Hi Rob
NBN 2017 connecting to cable. By that time a contract with Telstra would be 
finished.

Sent from my iPad

> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:59 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
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> First find out when the NBN is coming to you. They might be locking you into 
> something inferior once the NBN arrives.
> 
> Cheers
> Rob
> 
>> On 23/10/2015 8:51 pm, John Daniels wrote:
>> I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years 
>> but I'm interested to know if they have improved.
>> I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb 
>> sometimes being so slow it's frustrating.
>> 
>> Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 
>> 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2
>> 
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John I've had Telstra cable for several years. I moved from ADSL because the 
copper wires in my street were an ongoing problem in winter with the moisture 
causing problems. I had foxtel instal cable years ago for free when they were 
rolling it out, then stopped using it not long after.

Cable internet has been great. Recently Telstra gave me, unsolicited, a new 
Gateway Max modem/router and a three month free upgrade to their fast service. 
I used to pay for 100gb, which they upgraded to 200gb, then 500gb at no extra 
cost. Neat.

The new router and faster service is very nice. My first speedtest.net result 
was 110mbps download and 2.4mbps upload, up from the 30/1 I was used to. By the 
way, this was measured via wifi on my iPad. Cat5 Ethernet tends to be slower, 
-- around 70mbps.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1412793787

I recommend it.  Speed doesn't vary much due to down the road usage.

Tim

Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2

> On 23 Oct 2015, at 8:51 PM, John Daniels  wrote:
> 
> I know there have been many discussions about Telstra service over the years 
> but I'm interested to know if they have improved.
> I'm with Westnet ADSL 2 but my speeds vary from 0.5Mb to a max of 2Mb 
> sometimes being so slow it's frustrating.
> 
> Telstra are offering cable connection 30Mb and 25G data signing on for 
> 2years. Same price within $2 of Westnet.
> 
> Can anyone tell me how cable really compares with my ADSL2
> 
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Re: Telstra iPad Recharge

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Rod,

I'm in a similar situation  I figured the $180/365 day recharge had to be
the best:

€   It works out to only $15/month so it's cheaper than the lowest 30 day
recharge
€   It gives you an AVERAGE of 1GB/month - the same as the lowest 30 day
recharge
€   It allows you to have several low use months plus one or two high use
months - so long as you stay below the 12GB total
€   If you take off for a while, you can use a bit more data and use it as a
mobile hotspot for your iphone /or laptop and it will all average out with
your normal (low) useage.



Well, that's my thinking anyway ;o)


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on 4/1/13 6:09 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi WAMIGers
 I have had my iPad mini for almost a month.
 Thanks to your great advice I only signed up for a one month $30 pre-paid data
 account.
 It expires in a few days.
 I have only used about $2 worth of the data.
 
 My re-charge options are a bit horrific, only one month choices or one year
 (see below):
 
 $20 
 1GB (1.95c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $30 
 3GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $60 
 6GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $80 
 9GB (0.86c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $100 
 12GB (0.81c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $180 
 12GB (1.46c per MB), 365 days expiry
 Quite disappointed with Telstra over this.
 But have to be with Telstra.
 Looks like i have to go with the $180 twelve month one???
 Your advice?
 ta
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Re: Telstra iPad Recharge

[Walter Haenel]

Hi, Rod, Neil,

The 12GB/$180.-- /365 days is a bargain. And it is more convenient.
That's what I use. When you are traveling Telstra has the best coverage -
even though I don't like Telstra for other reasons.

Cheers,

Walter

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On 04/01/2013, at 21:51, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 Hi Rod,
 
 I'm in a similar situation  I figured the $180/365 day recharge had to be
 the best:
 
 €   It works out to only $15/month so it's cheaper than the lowest 30 day
 recharge
 €   It gives you an AVERAGE of 1GB/month - the same as the lowest 30 day
 recharge
 €   It allows you to have several low use months plus one or two high use
 months - so long as you stay below the 12GB total
 €   If you take off for a while, you can use a bit more data and use it as a
 mobile hotspot for your iphone /or laptop and it will all average out with
 your normal (low) useage.
 
 
 
 Well, that's my thinking anyway ;o)
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 on 4/1/13 6:09 PM, Rod Blitvich at rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi WAMIGers
 I have had my iPad mini for almost a month.
 Thanks to your great advice I only signed up for a one month $30 pre-paid 
 data
 account.
 It expires in a few days.
 I have only used about $2 worth of the data.
 
 My re-charge options are a bit horrific, only one month choices or one year
 (see below):
 
 $20 
 1GB (1.95c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $30 
 3GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $60 
 6GB (0.97c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $80 
 9GB (0.86c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $100 
 12GB (0.81c per MB), 30 days expiry 
 $180 
 12GB (1.46c per MB), 365 days expiry
 Quite disappointed with Telstra over this.
 But have to be with Telstra.
 Looks like i have to go with the $180 twelve month one???
 Your advice?
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Re: Telstra cable broadband

[Tim Law]

Oops
My error

The outage is for next week


Maintenance event
State:  Western Australia
Service:Broadband Cable
Description:Some Broadband Cable services may be unavailable.
Time start: 18-10-2012 10:00
Time end:   18-10-2012 15:00


Must be some other reason mine is not working this morning. My voice phone 
lines are crackling but that shouldn't affect the cable I would have thought. 

Tim


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On 13/10/2012, at 9:12 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

 For those using Telstra Cable Broadband, there is a general maintainable 
 outage at the moment. Seemingly widespread. 
 
 On their website, they are saying normal service will return at 15:00 today.
 
 I must have missed their heads up email alert letting their loyal customers 
 know about the pending outage. 
 
 For those with teenagers, you might see them appear from their bedroom for a 
 change; sullen and with an air of slight desperation as their world has shut 
 down.
 
 Tim
 
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Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S

[Chris Burton]

Hi all

Well I have my brand new iPhone 4S on a $59/month plan (plus $10/month for the 
32gb phone).

What a huge change from my old style phone,and a breath of fresh air. 
Go Apple! 
I love it and Im just learning how to use it!!

A great chrissy present from me to me!!

Merry Christmas to all and thanks again for your advice.

Chris


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Director
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PO Box 1076
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Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 21/12/2011, at 5:09 PM, cm wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 As Eugene pointed out Telstra now unlocks phones for free which actually puts 
 it ahead of Vodafone in serving that particular customer need. The storage 
 capacity of the iPhone equates to disk space on a computer. In my opinion 16 
 GB is ample for most things. With a bit of judicious selection iTune one can 
 have on hand sufficient songs, apps and films for a stint on a desert island.
 
 I currently I have a 32 GB phone but if my current usage patterns continue I 
 will likely buy a 16 GB one when next I upgrade because the plans seem to be 
 disproportionately better value for the smaller capacity. Here's a quote from 
 a forum regarding an 8 GB iPhone (note this is about 8 GB not 16).
 
 I keep a fair amount of music and photos on my iphone in addition to movies. 
 right now, i have 480 songs, 289 photos, 6 videos (2 of which are full-length 
 movies), 368 contacts, and 8 years worth of calendar events on my iphone, and 
 i still have 1.1GB of space available (on an 8GB iPhone).
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 13:32, Eugene edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote:
 
 Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be 
 covered for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple 
 you pay extra for that.
 
 Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway.
 
 The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much 
 memory/storage as you can afford.
 
 Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need 
 to insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact 
 telstra they will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have 
 backed up your phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image 
 you just backed up - during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if 
 Telstra has done its job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded 
 along with the rebuild.
 
 You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!!
 
 Regards,
 Eugene
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Good afternoon everyone
 
 I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my 
 Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up 
 for another one!! Very nice of them I thought!
 
 After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking 
 online it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with 
 phones. 
 
 I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is 
 Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and 
 finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra 
 Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen 
 on an iPhone.
 
 There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment 
 of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!!
 
 
 I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with:
 
 Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it 
 included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way 
 cheaper than buying outright. What is the catch here?
 
 The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by 
 phoning Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works).
 
 Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone?
 
 Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider?
 
 Thankyou for any advice on this
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
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Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S

[cm]

Hi Chris,

As Eugene pointed out Telstra now unlocks phones for free which actually puts 
it ahead of Vodafone in serving that particular customer need. The storage 
capacity of the iPhone equates to disk space on a computer. In my opinion 16 GB 
is ample for most things. With a bit of judicious selection iTune one can have 
on hand sufficient songs, apps and films for a stint on a desert island.

I currently I have a 32 GB phone but if my current usage patterns continue I 
will likely buy a 16 GB one when next I upgrade because the plans seem to be 
disproportionately better value for the smaller capacity. Here's a quote from a 
forum regarding an 8 GB iPhone (note this is about 8 GB not 16).

I keep a fair amount of music and photos on my iphone in addition to movies. 
right now, i have 480 songs, 289 photos, 6 videos (2 of which are full-length 
movies), 368 contacts, and 8 years worth of calendar events on my iphone, and i 
still have 1.1GB of space available (on an 8GB iPhone).

Cheers,
Carlo


Sent from my iPad

On 21/12/2011, at 13:32, Eugene edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote:

 Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be 
 covered for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple 
 you pay extra for that.
 
 Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway.
 
 The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much 
 memory/storage as you can afford.
 
 Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need 
 to insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact telstra 
 they will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have backed up 
 your phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image you just 
 backed up - during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if Telstra 
 has done its job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded along 
 with the rebuild.
 
 You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!!
 
  Regards,
  Eugene
 
 On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Good afternoon everyone
 
 I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my 
 Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up 
 for another one!! Very nice of them I thought!
 
 After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online 
 it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. 
 
 I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is 
 Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and 
 finish my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra 
 Tough unit. Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen 
 on an iPhone.
 
 There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment 
 of an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!!
 
 
 I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with:
 
 Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it 
 included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper 
 than buying outright. What is the catch here?
 
 The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning 
 Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works).
 
 Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone?
 
 Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider?
 
 Thankyou for any advice on this
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
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Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S

[Adrian Skehan]

Hi Chris,

I dont use my phone for a business, but I purchased my iPhone outright and got 
a $30 pre paid. which, with bonuses, gives me a $250 of calls and 500mb of data 
which I have never been able to exhaust.  I have ditched using the land-line 
and effectively more than halved my phone costs.

I feel sure you will find a pre-paid that will do the same for you.  Besides 
that I can tell Telstra to shove it any time I feel inclined.


Regards,


Adrian

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On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Good afternoon everyone
 
 I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my 
 Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up 
 for another one!! Very nice of them I thought!
 
 After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online 
 it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. 
 
 I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is 
 Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish 
 my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. 
 Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone.
 
 There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of 
 an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!!
 
 
 I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with:
 
 Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it 
 included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper 
 than buying outright. What is the catch here?
 
 The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning 
 Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works).
 
 Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone?
 
 Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider?
 
 Thankyou for any advice on this
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
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Re: Telstra plan with iPhone 4S

[Eugene]

Most telcos now have to offer a 2 year warranty as the phone has to be covered 
for the full length of the plan. If you bought straight from Apple you pay 
extra for that.

Go with the plan plus $5 as the plan is subsidising the phone anyway.

The old rule applies for phones as well as computers - buy as much 
memory/storage as you can afford.

Telstra will unlock it if you ask - just say you're going over seas and need to 
insert a foreign sim card. They won't charge you. Once you contact telstra they 
will do the business at their end. Meanwhile you need to have backed up your 
phone at your end and then you do a rebuild from the image you just backed up - 
during this process iTunes contacts Apple store and (if Telstra has done its 
job) the code for unlocking is automatically downloaded along with the rebuild.

You'll love the iPhone it is better than they say!!

  Regards,
  Eugene
  
On 21/12/2011, at 2:19 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Good afternoon everyone
 
 I had a call from our friendly Telstra a few days ago reminding me that my 
 Business Phone plan was about to expire tomorrow, and that I should sign up 
 for another one!! Very nice of them I thought!
 
 After some calls to a Telstra phone business in Busselton and looking online 
 it seems they have some reasonable Business Cap plans that come with phones. 
 
 I need a 'Blue Tick' phone for rural use, and fortunately the iPhone 4S is 
 Blue Tick accredited. I thought now is my time to get a real phone and finish 
 my Apple Suite off with a 16gb 4S, and get rid of my old Telstra Tough unit. 
 Some of the other 'Android' phones are Blue Tick, but I am keen on an iPhone.
 
 There is a catch: The 4S is NOT included in the plan, but requires payment of 
 an extra $5/month over 24 months on a $59 Plan!!
 
 
 I have a few questions some you guys might be able to assist me with:
 
 Is it better value for me to purchase an iPhone first rather than have it 
 included? The total 'payment price' on the plan = $120, which is way cheaper 
 than buying outright. What is the catch here?
 
 The phone will be 'Locked', but I am assured it can be 'Unlocked' by phoning 
 Telstra and then using iTunes (not sure how that works).
 
 Is a 16gb phone ok for most general use, rather than 32 or 64gb phone?
 
 Is there anything else that others can think of that I need to consider?
 
 Thankyou for any advice on this
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Paul K]

No need to apologise :)



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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Paul K]

So if I agree with Matt's Ridiculous viewpoint is that bad? ;)

The irony in this threat is quite galling.
I cannot imagine the kind of complaints it may have 'contracted'.
That is because I likely have a very different viewpoint.
Different viewpoint, not bad viewpoint. Or offensive, or in contravention of
any group guidelines?
Just sensibilities?



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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Dark1]

I certainly think that censorship of the internet is a completely relevant 
topic.  Censorship might of been in place for generations on books, films and 
songs but it hasn't been in place (for most countries, including Australia) at 
all yet for the internet and should it be implemented it's certainly not going 
to be fair with a transparent and publicly accessible list for people to make 
their own evaluations.

Ruben

 
 Hi all,
 
 I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the 
 WAMUG site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking 
 for technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. 
 There are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of 
 that. Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations 
 in most modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, 
 transparent list of what has been censored there will always be groups 
 fighting vigorously to have the censorship dropped.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote:
 
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters 
 or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Tim Law]

I've always been mindful that this is a Mac user group, and any computer query 
that I have that is not specifically Mac related, I do not post here. 

Whirlpool for example is a much more appropriate forum for broader policy 
discussion such as this. 
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/

Tim

On 09/07/2011, at 3:19 PM, Dark1 wrote:

 
 I certainly think that censorship of the internet is a completely relevant 
 topic.  Censorship might of been in place for generations on books, films and 
 songs but it hasn't been in place (for most countries, including Australia) 
 at all yet for the internet and should it be implemented it's certainly not 
 going to be fair with a transparent and publicly accessible list for people 
 to make their own evaluations.
 
 Ruben
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the 
 WAMUG site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking 
 for technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. 
 There are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of 
 that. Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations 
 in most modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, 
 transparent list of what has been censored there will always be groups 
 fighting vigorously to have the censorship dropped.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote:
 
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM 
 filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Matthew Healey]

That depends entirely on what sort of internet connection I buy. Sure if I use 
one of those 3G wireless sticks then yes, my connection is being NAT'd.
If I buy a business internet account then I can get a nice little /16 with a 
fully routed connection.
If I buy a fibre connection from Amcom they give me a glass pair and ask me 
what I want to plug it in to.

In all three scenarios I have a choice.

What's next… making VPN's and encryption illegal?

On 08/07/2011, at 7:52 PM, Rob Davies wrote:

 
 Hi Matthew,
 
 I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you 
 connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered.
 
 This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks 
 function, do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of 
 control.
 Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the 
 amount of traffic attempting access.
 What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. 
 If you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled.
 
 I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected 
 without some form of firewall in place.
 This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only 
 answer. But, it is a start.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 
 
 On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote:
 ,
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters 
 or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Rob Davies]

Morning All,

This post is contracting some complaints, and Matthews response with due 
Respect is Ridiculous.

So, I have responded of list to Matthew and apologise to WAMUG.

Cheers!
`RobD...

On 09Jul2011, at 10:37 pm, Matthew Healey wrote:

 
 That depends entirely on what sort of internet connection I buy. Sure if I 
 use one of those 3G wireless sticks then yes, my connection is being NAT'd.
 If I buy a business internet account then I can get a nice little /16 with a 
 fully routed connection.
 If I buy a fibre connection from Amcom they give me a glass pair and ask me 
 what I want to plug it in to.
 
 In all three scenarios I have a choice.
 
 What's next… making VPN's and encryption illegal?
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 7:52 PM, Rob Davies wrote:
 
 
 Hi Matthew,
 
 I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you 
 connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered.
 
 This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks 
 function, do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of 
 control.
 Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the 
 amount of traffic attempting access.
 What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. 
 If you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled.
 
 I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected 
 without some form of firewall in place.
 This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only 
 answer. But, it is a start.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 
 
 On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote:
 ,
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM 
 filters or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Rob Davies]

Hi Matthew,

I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you 
connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered.

This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks function, 
do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of control.
Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the 
amount of traffic attempting access.
What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. If 
you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled.

I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected 
without some form of firewall in place.
This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only answer. 
But, it is a start.

Cheers!
`RobD...


On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote:
,
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters 
 or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Matthew Healey]

On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Yes, I have to agree.
 
 I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now – started when there was a DNS
 security scare some time ago – the scare soon came  went as the ISPs got on
 top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses
 to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and
 offers some tools when sites refuse to load.

OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your 
ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly.

As an example, I was downloading something large from a special Akamai-hosted 
Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR below was I would 
normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on the iINet network. The 
problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my DNS server to Google 
(8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I returned my DNS to the 
appropriate setting and my download came through at about 5Mbs.

So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now.

Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored

or

use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a 
content delivery network.

- Matt


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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[cm]

Hi Matt,

While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that 
Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me isn't 
a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official manages to 
gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained process turns this 
to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain negative comments about 
them. If they are in the news they would have to block many of the major news 
sites as well such as the ABC.

I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political 
censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-07-07, at 14:54, Matthew Healey wrote:

 
 On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Yes, I have to agree.
 
 I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now – started when there was a DNS
 security scare some time ago – the scare soon came  went as the ISPs got on
 top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses
 to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and
 offers some tools when sites refuse to load.
 
 OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your 
 ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly.
 
 As an example, I was downloading something large from a special 
 Akamai-hosted Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR 
 below was I would normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on 
 the iINet network. The problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my 
 DNS server to Google (8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I 
 returned my DNS to the appropriate setting and my download came through at 
 about 5Mbs.
 
 So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now.
 
 Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored
 
 or
 
 use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a 
 content delivery network.
 
 - Matt
 
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Neil Houghton]

I don't know about Google DNS - never tried it - but I have had the OpenDNS
servers set as the DNS servers in my Billion router for a couple of years
(at least) now and have noticed NO slowdown whatsoever.

I didn't bother with setting up an Open DNS account - I just use their DNS
servers.

I also note that they claim:

 Websites will load faster, and with OpenDNS' 100% up-time, you won't have to
 worry about unreachable websites and DNS outages from your ISP.

Since this is their primary business, I would imagine OpenDNS work haard to
avoid the sort of problems you describe?

Also, it's somewhat ironic that they are identified as one way to beat
Telstra's filter - one of the things they DO offer is:

 Robust Web content filtering
 
 With over 50 customizable filtering categories, OpenDNS Web content filtering
 keeps employees productive at work, and keeps parents and teachers in control
 of what websites children visit at home and at school.



Cheers



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on 7/7/11 2:54 PM, Matthew Healey at mat...@mac.com wrote:

 
 On 06/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Yes, I have to agree.
 
 I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now ­ started when there was a DNS
 security scare some time ago ­ the scare soon came  went as the ISPs got on
 top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses
 to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and
 offers some tools when sites refuse to load.
 
 OpenDNS is a great tool, as I Google DNS. But using a server other than your
 ISP's breaks content delivery networks quite badly.
 
 As an example, I was downloading something large from a special
 Akamai-hosted Apple server and was only getting about 200Kbs. This is FAR
 below was I would normally expect from a server that is sitting someone on the
 iINet network. The problem was that a few days prior I had hard-coded my DNS
 server to Google (8.8.8.8) to do some tests. Once I realised this, I returned
 my DNS to the appropriate setting and my download came through at about 5Mbs.
 
 So that's the catch for Telstra/Optus customers now.
 
 Use Telstra/Optus DNS and have your connection politically censored
 
 or
 
 use third part DNS and receive a sub-par service when viewing anything on a
 content delivery network.
 
 - Matt
 
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Paul K]

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Matt,

 While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all
 that Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to
 me isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official
 manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained
 process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain
 negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to
 block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC.

 I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political
 censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites.

 Cheers,
 Carlo



Hi Carlo,

As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an
inch people take a mile.
Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other
areas deemed unsavory by the regulators.
One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No
thanks little brother.
I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job.

Cheers
Paul



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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Ronda Brown]

On 07/07/2011, at 4:52 PM, Paul K wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt,
 
 While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that 
 Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me 
 isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official 
 manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained 
 process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain 
 negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to 
 block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC.
 
 I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political 
 censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 
 Hi Carlo,
 
 As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an 
 inch people take a mile.
 Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other areas 
 deemed unsavory by the regulators.
 One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No 
 thanks little brother.
 I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job.
 
 Cheers
 Paul


I agree Paul,

Once they start censoring there is no stopping what they will censor and 
eventually we ‘might’ end up with something similar to the “Great Firewall Of 
China” (China’s misguided and futile attempt to control what happens online!

I would love to see Child Pornography completely stopped, but Censoring the 
Internet will not stop Child Pornography?

One Article in the National Times here: 
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/internet-filter-will-not-stop-child-porn-peddlers-20091217-kzfy.html

/Quote:
It is ironic that at the very point where Australia seeks recognition as a 
world leader in its vision for a National Broadband Network it may also gain 
censure as legitimating a range of repressive policies pursued by some of the 
globe's least accountable governments. Further, given that the filter will 
categorise and block websites, but not other ways of communicating digitally, 
the highly illegal and abhorrent activities of those who peddle images of child 
sexual abuse are likely to continue with little additional inconvenience.”
/End Quote

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Rob Davies]

Evening,
If you  are a Telstra customer and connected by such you are being filtered.

DNS as Ronni has stated before is to change an IP address into english, a URL.
Most sites they are chasing are IP based, so the filtering will be done before 
it reaches DNS servers.

OpenDNS servers are based within US, and yes your free downloads and other ISP 
benefits could be adjusted, or blocked.
But again most of these will be allocated by IP, so it could be a mute 
reasoning.

Personally, being in networking less traffic is a better solution, cost and 
performance.
Also as I have published you can improve your DNS, but there are consequences.
It is a small cog in a massive wheel which people take for granted, and are 
unsure, or just expect to work without knowing consequences.

Why do you think SPAM and Phishing attacks are successful.
ISP's have been filtering some of the net already (Virus scanning, SPAM 
filtering, Content Filtering), due to above reasoning.

Cheers!
`RobD...


On 07Jul2011, at 5:17 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 On 07/07/2011, at 4:52 PM, Paul K wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Matt,
 
 While I am not in favour censoring, we as yet have no indication at all that 
 Telstra will do anything other than block child porn sites -- which to me 
 isn't a bad thing. The worst case scenario is that some corrupt official 
 manages to gain control of this process and by some as yet unexplained 
 process turns this to his / her advantage by blocking sites that contain 
 negative comments about them. If they are in the news they would have to 
 block many of the major news sites as well such as the ABC.
 
 I think it may be reaching somewhat to suggest that there is political 
 censoring unless you are referring to the blocking of porn sites.
 
 Cheers,
 Carlo
 
 
 
 Hi Carlo,
 
 As I read it, the general fear in many cases like this is that when given an 
 inch people take a mile.
 Folk are concerned that later on it's scope could be broadened to other 
 areas deemed unsavory by the regulators.
 One of history's lessons already learned by now I would have thought. No 
 thanks little brother.
 I don't know how to stop child porn but I doubt if this does the job.
 
 Cheers
 Paul
 
 I agree Paul,
 
 Once they start censoring there is no stopping what they will censor and 
 eventually we ‘might’ end up with something similar to the “Great Firewall Of 
 China” (China’s misguided and futile attempt to control what happens online!
 
 I would love to see Child Pornography completely stopped, but Censoring the 
 Internet will not stop Child Pornography?
 
 One Article in the National Times here: 
 http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/internet-filter-will-not-stop-child-porn-peddlers-20091217-kzfy.html
 
 /Quote:
 It is ironic that at the very point where Australia seeks recognition as a 
 world leader in its vision for a National Broadband Network it may also gain 
 censure as legitimating a range of repressive policies pursued by some of the 
 globe's least accountable governments. Further, given that the filter will 
 categorise and block websites, but not other ways of communicating digitally, 
 the highly illegal and abhorrent activities of those who peddle images of 
 child sexual abuse are likely to continue with little additional 
 inconvenience.”
 /End Quote
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Matthew Healey]

Hi Rob,

Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters or 
Virus Scanners. That's the difference.

As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place to 
block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to their 
advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some sort of 
boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't someone 
please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.

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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[cm]

Hi all,

I personally would like to see a more measured level of discussion on the WAMUG 
site. It would be unfortunate if a persons who visits the site looking for 
technical knowledge is driven away by fear of a heated political debate. There 
are many other places on the internet where we can get our fill of that. 
Censorship has be in place on books, films, and songs for generations in most 
modern democracies, and providing there is a publicly accessible, transparent 
list of what has been censored there will always be groups fighting vigorously 
to have the censorship dropped.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-07-08, at 10:00, Matthew Healey wrote:

 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters 
 or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Paul K]

Hi,

Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too?

Cheers
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Eugene]

This is a technology forum and I am open to any discussion that informs me of matters that may effect me.I applaud balanced, educated opinions related to technology even if they're political issues like National Broadband. How else will I keep informed without being influenced by our biased media? As the heading of this thread suggests Telstra is making decisions which will effect us and this is politically motivated - I do want to know about this and I do appreciated the very educated opinion of the WAMUG community.Let us not quash healthy open technology related discussion, if we start drawing lines on what can be discussed and what can't be discussed we might threaten the colour of this very valuable forum. How bland if WAMUG simply becomes a venue littered with threads on how to eject stuck DVDs.
   Regards,  Eugene   

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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Tom Hogarth]

OMG

Some people would say *simply *owning an apple mac computer is a political
statement

just try making fun of a PC based user with ''so youre using the dark
side?''

and see how some take the bait some dont

I would strongly suggest if anyone feels that comic or sarcastic asides
about systems, providers, and software *dosnt* involve an element of
politics,
then there is a serious issue more in* that *perception...


cheers

Tom H


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 Hi,

 Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too?

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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Neil Houghton]

Yes, I have to agree.

I have used OpenDNS for quite some time now ­ started when there was a DNS
security scare some time ago ­ the scare soon came  went as the ISPs got on
top of it but I left it set up with open DNS anyway. It occasionally refuses
to load some sites which are on some phishing/scam type blacklists and
offers some tools when sites refuse to load.

OpenDNS has been mentioned several times on this list ­ in fact, I think
that is how I first learned of it.

Anyway, the point is, it has been offering various quite legitimate
services/feature for quite some time and I am a happy user.

So now we have the filter, it is apparently trivial to bypass it by using a
service like Open DNS. This fact ha been publicised by opponents/critics of
the filter.

So now we get articles like this on SMH:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-optus-net-filters-
trivial-to-bypass-20110705-1h02i.html

 An internet filter designed to block access to child pornography, which is
 being imposed on Optus and Telstra customers, is trivial to bypass, say
 civil libertarians.
And then

 It was a pretty big decision to take if a person who really wanted to access
 child pornography circumvented a filter, he said.
 
 You can bypass these [filters] just as you can hotwire a car to steal it or
 force entry into a home, he said. But at that point you're departing from
 the normal social behaviours and entering the criminal world. I just wonder
 what the point of that exercise would be.
 


So, apparently, by using OpenDNS (as I have been doing for several years) I
am hot-wiring the internet and departing from the normal social behaviours
and entering the criminal world - and I would only be doing that to to
access child pornography or for some other nefarious purpose!!!

I find it particularly disturbing that the above quote, by the way, is
attributed to Spokesman for the Internet Industry Association (IIA), Peter
Coroneos.

So I have to agree with Paul. I think that is a technology issue that
concerns us all as internet users, regardless of your personal political
opinions.

Unfortunately, whilst the technology issue itself crosses the political
divide, when you start seeing quotes like thee one above, you can be sure
that politic isn't far away :o(


Just my apolitical 2c worth.


Cheers



Neil
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 Hi,
 
 Political opinions when they relate to information technology issues too?
 
 Cheers
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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Is the WAMUG mailing list really the appropriate place to express political
opinions?  I would prefer to see them left out.
Regards,
Jennifer

On 4 July 2011 08:18, Paul K logry...@gmail.com wrote:

 Groovy, policy through magic. What is this, Hogwarts?




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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

[Matthew Healey]

This is the payoff for winning the NBN contract. You'll note that Internode, 
who was very vocal in opposition to the filter, has been all but shut out of 
the NBN.

Conroy needs the Family First loonies to support Labor to retain government. 
This is what it cost.

On 03/07/2011, at 11:13 AM, Paul K wrote:

 Different to the Govt.'s filter? I agree with you Matt.




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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

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Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

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Different to the Govt.'s filter? I agree with you Matt.



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Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone

[peta]

Good advice, thanks Glenn.

Sometimes though it seems such a hassle to double check everything and everyone!

Especially when we can usually find someone at the WAMUG site who knows 
something about nearly everythingThis personal touch means so much more 
somehow.

Peta



On 14/01/2011, at 12:55 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:

 
 The web page clearly shows Telstra has this programme in place, and
 they do say Our Telstra Mentor service gives you expert advice on how
 to get the most out of your new Next G™ handset in a complimentary,
 personalised one hour session. So it seems the 1 hour session should
 be free.
 
 Even though this session seems legitimate, I think Telstra has set
 things up to invite abuse at some point in the future. Someone could
 easily call up pretending to be a Telstra mentor, answer some
 questions to build trust and then try for confidential info - perhaps
 asking for login details or potentially credit card details. Social
 engineering is a popular way of getting people to part with
 confidential information - it makes it easier for scammers if
 corporations teach their customers to trust unsolicited calls.
 
 With identity theft such a major problem, if someone calls you out of
 the blue and you have no way of knowing who they are, if it comes to
 the point where they want you to disclose information you should ask
 how to reach them via a company phone number you can check out
 independently. For example, on the Telstra Mentor site they include
 For more information on Telstra Mentor please call 1300 783 343.  So
 if you did get a call from a Mentor and they did ask you for any
 information (email address included), maybe it would be better to call
 the mentor back via that number.
 
 Glenn Nicholas
 
 
 On 14 January 2011 09:42, peta petabelczow...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Good morning WAMUG,
 
 I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a 
 gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones.
 
 Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this 
 seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of  a Telstra 
 mentor from anyone.  Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but
 
 He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to 
 help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone.  I 
 explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. 
   He sent me an email shortly after this.
 
 The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone.  He also gave 
 me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer.
 
 Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - 
 which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness.
 
 Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam?  Hopefully 
 not!
 
 Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group!
 
 
 Peta
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peta,

Good to be very careful about this sort of phone call. Apparently it is 
genuine. I have never received one and had not heard of it.
Be cautious of the cost though!

http://www.telstra.com.au/telstramentor/index.html

What is Telstra Mentor?
A Telstra Mentor expert can help take away the frustration of getting your new 
mobile up and running. You'll also be shown handy shortcuts and how to master 
mobile features like email and internet, giving you the mobile tools to save 
time and be more productive.
How can Telstra Mentor benefit me?
We’ll contact you and book a time to show you how you can:
• sync your PC calendar and contacts with your mobile
• set up and use mobile email
• access mobile internet
• use your handset as a mobile modem
• access Next G™ content like Whereis® mobile, Yellow™ mobile, FOXTEL 
from Telstra and much more.
Who can use Telstra Mentor?
This program is available to eligible Telstra customers who take out a plan and 
eligible handset with a monthly access fee of $79 or above. It is provided by 
our partners Mobile Mentor and is available throughout Australia. You could be 
eligible for a face to face or over the phone mentor session depending on your 
location.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote:

 
 Good morning WAMUG,
 
 I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman 
 who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones.
 
 Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this 
 seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of  a Telstra 
 mentor from anyone.  Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but
 
 He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to 
 help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone.  I 
 explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call.  
  He sent me an email shortly after this.
 
 The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone.  He also gave me 
 instructions on how to make the phone ring longer.
 
 Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - 
 which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness.
 
 Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam?  Hopefully 
 not!
 
 Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group!
 
 
 Peta
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone

[Richard Anderson]

Why not phone  Telstra and ask if they have mentors

DickA
On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote:



Good morning WAMUG,

I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a  
gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones.


Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so  
although this seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not  
heard of  a Telstra mentor from anyone.  Yes, we do not want to be  
paranoid, but


He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he  
offered to help me with any problems that I may be having with the  
new phone.  I explained that it was not a good time for me just  
then so we ended the call.   He sent me an email shortly after this.


The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone.  He  
also gave me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer.


Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text  
message - which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness.


Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam?   
Hopefully not!


Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group!


Peta



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Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone

[peta]

Thanks for this Ronni.

While it is good to know this is not a scam, I am still puzzled why me?.   
Other family members and friends who have purchased iPhone 4's recently have 
not had any such approach.

Again, thank you for such a prompt response.

Have a great weekend,

Peta




On 14/01/2011, at 9:55 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hi Peta,
 
 Good to be very careful about this sort of phone call. Apparently it is 
 genuine. I have never received one and had not heard of it.
 Be cautious of the cost though!
 
 http://www.telstra.com.au/telstramentor/index.html
 
 What is Telstra Mentor?
 A Telstra Mentor expert can help take away the frustration of getting your 
 new mobile up and running. You'll also be shown handy shortcuts and how to 
 master mobile features like email and internet, giving you the mobile tools 
 to save time and be more productive.
 How can Telstra Mentor benefit me?
 We’ll contact you and book a time to show you how you can:
   • sync your PC calendar and contacts with your mobile
   • set up and use mobile email
   • access mobile internet
   • use your handset as a mobile modem
   • access Next G™ content like Whereis® mobile, Yellow™ mobile, FOXTEL 
 from Telstra and much more.
 Who can use Telstra Mentor?
 This program is available to eligible Telstra customers who take out a plan 
 and eligible handset with a monthly access fee of $79 or above. It is 
 provided by our partners Mobile Mentor and is available throughout Australia. 
 You could be eligible for a face to face or over the phone mentor session 
 depending on your location.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 14/01/2011, at 9:42 AM, peta wrote:
 
 
 Good morning WAMUG,
 
 I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a 
 gentleman who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones.
 
 Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this 
 seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of  a Telstra 
 mentor from anyone.  Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but
 
 He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to 
 help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone.  I 
 explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call. 
   He sent me an email shortly after this.
 
 The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone.  He also gave 
 me instructions on how to make the phone ring longer.
 
 Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - 
 which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness.
 
 Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam?  Hopefully 
 not!
 
 Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group!
 
 
 Peta
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra Mentor for Iphone

[Glenn Nicholas]

The web page clearly shows Telstra has this programme in place, and
they do say Our Telstra Mentor service gives you expert advice on how
to get the most out of your new Next G™ handset in a complimentary,
personalised one hour session. So it seems the 1 hour session should
be free.

Even though this session seems legitimate, I think Telstra has set
things up to invite abuse at some point in the future. Someone could
easily call up pretending to be a Telstra mentor, answer some
questions to build trust and then try for confidential info - perhaps
asking for login details or potentially credit card details. Social
engineering is a popular way of getting people to part with
confidential information - it makes it easier for scammers if
corporations teach their customers to trust unsolicited calls.

With identity theft such a major problem, if someone calls you out of
the blue and you have no way of knowing who they are, if it comes to
the point where they want you to disclose information you should ask
how to reach them via a company phone number you can check out
independently. For example, on the Telstra Mentor site they include
For more information on Telstra Mentor please call 1300 783 343.  So
if you did get a call from a Mentor and they did ask you for any
information (email address included), maybe it would be better to call
the mentor back via that number.

Glenn Nicholas


On 14 January 2011 09:42, peta petabelczow...@mac.com wrote:

 Good morning WAMUG,

 I received an unsolicited call on my mobile phone yesterday, from a gentleman 
 who identified himself as a Telstra mentor for iPhones.

 Nowadays we feel uneasy about the possibility of scams, and so although this 
 seemed to be legitimate and probably is, I have not heard of  a Telstra 
 mentor from anyone.  Yes, we do not want to be paranoid, but

 He asked me for my email address, which I did give to him, and he offered to 
 help me with any problems that I may be having with the new phone.  I 
 explained that it was not a good time for me just then so we ended the call.  
  He sent me an email shortly after this.

 The email tells me how to check the data usage on my iPhone.  He also gave me 
 instructions on how to make the phone ring longer.

 Just now, as he had also told me would happen, I received a text message - 
 which I am meant to respond to rating his helpfulness.

 Has anyone else had such a phone call or is this perhaps a scam?  Hopefully 
 not!

 Looking forward to comments from the WAMUG group!


 Peta



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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Andrew,

I found that with my iPhone sat on my desk, connected through my home
wireless network, it still was clocking up 3G data (not huge amounts but
ongoing) - I ended up switching off 3G and I suspect I will just leave 3G
switched off until I actually want to access something when not in a
wireless zone, switch it on to access what I need, then switch it off again.

I signed up for the Telstra mobile data usage meter - but it is far from
reassuring:

It currently says:

 You have currently used 23% (47.8MB) of your 205MB included data. Data usage
 displayed is from Tue 14 Sep '10. Your next bill is due to be issued on Wed 06
 Oct '10.


However:

1. My current plan is supposed to include 500MB of data. Not 205 MB
2. The only session listed is one session of 3 secs on 30 Sept which used
6kb (I momentarily switched 3G data on  then off again)
3. If I try to use the Search Usage to search by date range (using todays
date as the ³to² date:
 * If I exclude the 30th Sept, the listed session disappears (which is what I
 would expect) 
 * If I set the date range from 14 Sept Œ10 (supposedly the ³from² date for the
 47.8MB usage) it get a message saying ³Attention ­ From date is before last
 Bill Date² - It isn¹t, my last bill was dated 02 Sept Œ10 and my next bill is
 apparently due to be issued on 06 Oct Œ10
 * If I set the date range from 15 Sept Œ10, the message goes away but still
 the only session listed is the 6kb on 30 Sept.
4. So the Mobile Data Usage Meter tells me I have apparently used 47.8 MB
since 14 Sept ­ but it only actually identifies 6kb of it!



Now, 47.8MB isn¹t actually a problem except that this was all generated
while connected through a wireless network and over a relatively short time
(I¹ve had 3G switched off for quite a while) so:

1. I have no confidence whatsoever in the Mobile Data Usage Meter
2. I dare not actually switch on 3G and use my iPhone for fear it will run
up a huge data bill with no reliable means to check it.



Sort of spoils my enjoyment of the iPhone somewhat :o(




Cheers




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on 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox at and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew




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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Robin Belford]

I like Quota as an app for my iPhone but you can use Telstra's own page to 
check your usage in detail.
https://es.telstra.com/MobileDataUsageMeter/index.jsp?theme=tb#Usage

robin

On 04/10/2010, at 5:56 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

 
 There is an app for that, 3G Usage, might help to monitor things.
 
 
 Brian
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 04/10/2010, at 17:39, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying 
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus 
 data plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I 
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that 
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from 
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Andrew

Do you have email set up?
If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual.
If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!!

You can check in:-
Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off.
Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually.
Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually.
This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it.
This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage.

Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course).
If not, ignore everything I said :O)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Brian Risbey]

There is an app for that, 3G Usage, might help to monitor things.


Brian
Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2010, at 17:39, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying 
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data 
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I 
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that 
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from 
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Andrew Schox]

Hi Daniel,

I do use mail, and had push set to on. I had set the fetch schedule to 
Manually, which I thought protected me, since I never get any mail unless I 
click the check mail button in mail.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 04/10/2010, at 9:00 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Hi Andrew
 
 Do you have email set up?
 If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual.
 If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!!
 
 You can check in:-
 Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off.
 Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually.
 Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually.
 This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it.
 This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage.
 
 Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course).
 If not, ignore everything I said :O)
 
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Adam Hewitt]

I have two accounts setup on my phone and both are set to push and
receive a lot of email every day. I have never gone over 200MB of data
usage in the 18 months I have had the phone...making my 1GB of data
seem pointless.

Adam

Sent from my iPhone

On 05/10/2010, at 9:01 AM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:


 Hi Daniel,

 I do use mail, and had push set to on. I had set the fetch schedule to 
 Manually, which I thought protected me, since I never get any mail unless I 
 click the check mail button in mail.

 Cheers,

 Andrew

 On 04/10/2010, at 9:00 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


 Hi Andrew

 Do you have email set up?
 If so, have you gone and changed the checking of it from Push to Manual.
 If it's set to Push, then it's checking it all the time!!

 You can check in:-
 Settings - Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 I generally have Fetch New Data set to Off.
 Then click on Fetch New Data. Change this to Manually.
 Then click on Advanced. Then change each account to Manually.
 This means email won't check, until you actually open up Mail to look at it.
 This stops it from checking all the time, and can help with data usage.

 Try that and see how it goes (if you're using Mail of course).
 If not, ignore everything I said :O)

 Kind Regards
 Daniel


 On 4/10/10 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:


 Hi all,

 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus 
 data
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.

 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.

 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that
 much data in 5 days.

 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...

 Cheers,

 Andrew




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Re: Telstra iPhone data usage

[Martin Hill]

Telstra charges the first month of usage after signing up on a pro-rata basis 
so if your data contract began only a few days before the monthly billing 
period ends, Telstra only gives you a few days worth of data quota. 

This means even though you may have 1.5GB for a whole month, if you sign up 3 
days before the end of the monthly billing period, you'd actually only have 
150MBs total available for those 3 days!  

However, all you have to do is ring Telstra and they will cancel any overage 
charges and you'll be fine in the future as this only applies in the first 
month after signing up. 

This happened to both my wife and a friend  who both got overage charges of $50 
or more!

-Mart

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/10/2010, at 5:39 PM, Andrew Schox and...@perthfootankle.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I have had a Telstra iPhone 4 for five days, and got a message today saying 
 I'd used 93% of my 1.5GB data plan. Previous to this I had a 1.5GB Optus data 
 plan which I never exceeded in two years.
 
 My data usage has been probably less than what I usually used on Optus as I 
 have frequently been accessing the net via WiFi.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar issues. I can't believe I've used that 
 much data in 5 days.
 
 I'll have to organise to spend a few hours tomorrow getting transferred from 
 one department to another at Telstra's friendly phone support service...
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Chris Burton]

HI Ronnie

Thanks very much for the info, I can see what you are saying in the  
Network Preferences.


I will set up the router and try for a connection again.

Kind regards and thanks heaps

Chris

On 10/08/2010, at 9:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

I've replied to your email to WAMUG Mailing list as you are more  
likely to receive help from someone 'On List'; who is using this  
Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway Modem/Router.


In answer to your question below:
Go to System Preferences  Network
Select your connection in the left hand column
Click 'Advanced'
Check under TCP/IP  - Router: Is it showing the Router's IP Address  
there?


Under  'DNS' and in DNS Servers, click + and type in the Router's IP  
Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/08/2010, at 12:52 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

I have to get this router hooked up soon and have been unable to  
since you sent your last advice back at the end of May (see below).  
My memory is a bit slow today, so would you please refresh it?


Below you say I need to:


Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro


Can you please let me know where I do this? I imagine it is in the  
Network setting somewhere?


I can see where I need to change the primary and secondary  
addresses through the router config site, but not on the mac


Thanks very much for your help

Chris



On 21/05/2010, at 4:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use  
automatic DNS' and add the one's for your State.

i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.242.33
 Secondary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.226.33

Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro

http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content 



Cheers,
Ronni

On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over  
3 hours with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it  
appears that the earlier software version on the loan router  
works, but the later version on the new router does not!!
We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as  
well.


The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the  
link and the actual admin summary page.


He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common  
thread for other mac users.


Best regards

Chris


On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP  
Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS  
Server:

And Link  Signal Strength.

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under  
TCP/IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system  
with a 15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my  
online service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov  
2008) I received from a very helpful manager at Telstra  
Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the  
new modem/router I purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so  
I can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but  
the new one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one  
has exactly the same problem and the guy describes in the  
first post of the forum ie I can get online for about a  
minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly  
restart the modem, or go into the bigpond admin page to  
restart the software. The funny thing is he can use this new  
modem with no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury. This  
is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear  
if you have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his  
work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris








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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

I've replied to your email to WAMUG Mailing list as you are more likely to 
receive help from someone 'On List'; who is using this Telstra Wireless Next G 
Gateway Modem/Router.

In answer to your question below:
Go to System Preferences  Network
Select your connection in the left hand column
Click 'Advanced'
Check under TCP/IP  - Router: Is it showing the Router's IP Address there?

Under  'DNS' and in DNS Servers, click + and type in the Router's IP Address as 
the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/08/2010, at 12:52 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I have to get this router hooked up soon and have been unable to since you 
 sent your last advice back at the end of May (see below). My memory is a bit 
 slow today, so would you please refresh it?
 
 Below you say I need to:
 
 Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro

 Can you please let me know where I do this? I imagine it is in the Network 
 setting somewhere?
 
 I can see where I need to change the primary and secondary addresses through 
 the router config site, but not on the mac
 
 Thanks very much for your help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 On 21/05/2010, at 4:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use automatic DNS' 
 and add the one's for your State.
 i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.242.33
  Secondary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.226.33
 
 Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro
 
 http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3 hours 
 with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it appears that the 
 earlier software version on the loan router works, but the later version on 
 the new router does not!! 
 We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well.
 
 The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the link and 
 the actual admin summary page.
 
 He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common thread 
 for other mac users.
 
 Best regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP Address: 
 Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:
 And Link  Signal Strength. 
 
 http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronnie
 
 I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/IP it 
 shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.
 
 Thanks very much Ronni
 
 Chris
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
 Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi muggers
 
 Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.
 
 I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a 15 
 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online service. This 
 link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I received from a very 
 helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as 
 myself about the new modem/router I purchased a few months ago.
 
 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html
 
 The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can 
 still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one doesnt 
 and we cannot understand why. The new one has exactly the same problem 
 and the guy describes in the first post of the forum ie I can get 
 online for about a minute before I get no connection. I have to 
 constantly restart the modem, or go into the bigpond admin page to 
 restart the software. The funny thing is he can use this new modem with 
 no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury. This is the second new 
 modem I have had and it does the same thing.
 
 If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you have 
 been able to find a solution.
 
 The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go through a 
 few ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.
 
 Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra bumps iPhone plans to 6GB!

[Eugene]

Hi Mart,

this appears to be only an introductory offer that expires in 1 November. Shame.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/iphone/pricing.html

The 6Gb costs $129 per month and includes $1500 of calls
The $49 plan includes 500Mb data and $400 of calls



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On 03/08/2010, at 8:15 PM, Martin Hill wrote:

 Wa-hey, Telstra is finally getting a clue and giving some pretty good deals 
 on larger data packs for the iPhone 4:
 
   • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 1GB data = $58.50
   • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 3GB data = $63.50
   • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 6GB data = $78.50
 
 I understand they also don't charge extra to enable tethering, so you could 
 use the fast speeds of NextG to get excellent wireless internet connectivity 
 for your other computers.
 
 This is a lot more tempting than the 500MB plan for $49 (which was 250MB) 
 only a short time ago.
 
 -Mart

Re: Telstra bumps iPhone plans to 6GB!

[Peter Meyer]

No, the end of that para in the Telstra conditions states:
…. Bonus data allowance applies for the full term of the customer's eligible 
contract plan. If the customer's eligible contract plan is cancelled, the bonus 
offer will cease to apply.

It seems the _offer_ ceases on the 1st November (unless extended by Telstra)

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On 03/08/2010, at 9:47 PM, Eugene wrote:

 Hi Mart,
 
 this appears to be only an introductory offer that expires in 1 November. 
 Shame.
 
 http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/iphone/pricing.html
 
 The 6Gb costs $129 per month and includes $1500 of calls
 The $49 plan includes 500Mb data and $400 of calls
 
 
 
Regards,
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 On 03/08/2010, at 8:15 PM, Martin Hill wrote:
 
 Wa-hey, Telstra is finally getting a clue and giving some pretty good deals 
 on larger data packs for the iPhone 4:
 
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 1GB data = $58.50
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 3GB data = $63.50
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 6GB data = $78.50
 
 I understand they also don't charge extra to enable tethering, so you could 
 use the fast speeds of NextG to get excellent wireless internet connectivity 
 for your other computers.
 
 This is a lot more tempting than the 500MB plan for $49 (which was 250MB) 
 only a short time ago.
 
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Re: Telstra bumps iPhone plans to 6GB!

[Martin Hill]

Ha! Peter beat me to it,  :-)

But this is what I was going to say:

On the contrary, this is what the fine print on that very sameTelstra page says:

Bonus data allowance applies for the full term of the customer's eligible 
contract plan.

So the only thing that finishes on Nov 1 is the ability to sign-up unless 
extended by Telstra.

So, as long as you sign up before Nov 1, you get to stay on the larger data 
plan till the end of your 2 year contract.

Sweet.

-Mart


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On 03/08/2010, at 9:47 PM, Eugene wrote:

 Hi Mart,
 
 this appears to be only an introductory offer that expires in 1 November. 
 Shame.
 
 http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/iphone/pricing.html
 
 The 6Gb costs $129 per month and includes $1500 of calls
 The $49 plan includes 500Mb data and $400 of calls
 
 
 
Regards,
Eugene
 
 
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 On 03/08/2010, at 8:15 PM, Martin Hill wrote:
 
 Wa-hey, Telstra is finally getting a clue and giving some pretty good deals 
 on larger data packs for the iPhone 4:
 
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 1GB data = $58.50
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 3GB data = $63.50
  • $49 ($400 call allowance) + 6GB data = $78.50
 
 I understand they also don't charge extra to enable tethering, so you could 
 use the fast speeds of NextG to get excellent wireless internet connectivity 
 for your other computers.
 
 This is a lot more tempting than the 500MB plan for $49 (which was 250MB) 
 only a short time ago.
 
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Re: Telstra vs Vodafone Prepaid on iPad

[Matthew Healey]

The one thing that Telstra ever got right, was the quality of the next g 
network.

(vodafone have their own towers BTW)

If you don't mind the Telstra Tax, then by all means go with them for the iPad. 
Anything else... run away screaming.

On 29/07/2010, at 9:36 PM, Dudley Gager wrote:

 
 Hi All
 
 I have only ever used Vodafone for mobile internet on my Air (presumably 
 Optus network).
 
 With Telstra apparently wanting to be more competitive, I am considering 
 Telstra for my iPad.
 
 Does anyone know from experience whether the speed difference will be 
 negligible/ noticeable/ significant/ unbelievable?
 
 TIA
 
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Re: Telstra vs Vodafone Prepaid on iPad

[Ronda Brown]

I have to agree with Matt.
I've stayed with Telstra for years purely for their superior Next G Network 
coverage and speed.

Their rates and plans 'suck', but if you want reliable speed and coverage, I 
would recommend Telstra.
My iPhone 3G S is on a plan with Telstra 
My iPad is on Telstra 'Pre-Paid micro-SIM'.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/07/2010, at 11:18 AM, Matthew Healey wrote:

 
 The one thing that Telstra ever got right, was the quality of the next g 
 network.
 
 (vodafone have their own towers BTW)
 
 If you don't mind the Telstra Tax, then by all means go with them for the 
 iPad. Anything else... run away screaming.
 
 On 29/07/2010, at 9:36 PM, Dudley Gager wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 
 I have only ever used Vodafone for mobile internet on my Air (presumably 
 Optus network).
 
 With Telstra apparently wanting to be more competitive, I am considering 
 Telstra for my iPad.
 
 Does anyone know from experience whether the speed difference will be 
 negligible/ noticeable/ significant/ unbelievable?
 
 TIA
 
 Dudley Gager
 
 





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Re: Telstra vs Vodafone Prepaid on iPad

[Eugene]

Although I have a love/hate relationship with Telstra I did sleep with the 
devil when I purchased my iPhone 3G.

My needs for a mobile are limited and I only needed the lowest $30 plan with 
Telstra which included a very moderate data plan. Unfortunately Telstra has 
upped their lowest plan by 66% to $50.

This time around I will purchase my iPhone outright and select the best prepaid 
plan for my purposes. As this no doubt will not use Telsta's towers I will be 
slightly inconvenienced particularly when I'm out in the country. I will 
actually have more talk and message time and pay less for data.

Telstra is is arrogant and determined to lose customers. If it's realised that 
moving data costs it very little it would drop its price and become more 
competitive and people like me would return to the fold.

  Regards,
  Eugene
  

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On 30/07/2010, at 11:18 AM, Matthew Healey wrote:

 
 The one thing that Telstra ever got right, was the quality of the next g 
 network.
 
 (vodafone have their own towers BTW)
 
 If you don't mind the Telstra Tax, then by all means go with them for the 
 iPad. Anything else... run away screaming.
 
 On 29/07/2010, at 9:36 PM, Dudley Gager wrote:
 
 
 Hi All
 
 I have only ever used Vodafone for mobile internet on my Air (presumably 
 Optus network).
 
 With Telstra apparently wanting to be more competitive, I am considering 
 Telstra for my iPad.
 
 Does anyone know from experience whether the speed difference will be 
 negligible/ noticeable/ significant/ unbelievable?
 
 TIA
 
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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Chris Burton]

Hi Vlad

Nice to hear from you and thanks for your interest in this. I bought  
the first modem from a local phone shop in Busselton about a year ago.  
As soon as I had it home and tried to set up I came upon the problem,  
that is ongoing. I then found out about Telstra Country wide who work  
from Bunbury and the manager there has been helping out ever since and  
is determined to find out what the hell is going on. He had ordered  
the second modem early this year which is the one we are working on  
now, and is about to order the third. I hope BigPond actually take up  
the challenge to.


Im thinking of upgrading to a new macbook with snow leopard and hope I  
dont have the same issues


Best regards

Chris


On 21/05/2010, at 12:35 PM, Vladimir James wrote:


Chris,

I have been following your problem with the 3G9WB with interest, as  
I have been considering the replacement of my Maxon BP3-EXT with the  
Netcomm device. The Netcomm 3G9WB is listed by BigPond as the  
recommended device for  Snow Leopard. BigPond states that the Maxon  
BP3-EXT does not support ... Snow Leopard, although I have  
recently brought to their attention the fact that I have been  
successfully using it with SL for many months. Strange. (I have had  
no reply from them on this matter.)


In any case, I await some resolution to your problem. Could you tell  
me how you went about obtaining the 3G9WB, as BigPond is not exactly  
clear about this?


Cheers,
Vlad James
Sawyers Valley

ink...@bigpond.com
wireless
24 iMac 2.4 GHz Intel
2GB / 667MHz / 320GB
OS X 10.6.3

On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3  
hours with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it appears  
that the earlier software version on the loan router works, but the  
later version on the new router does not!!

We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well.

The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the  
link and the actual admin summary page.


He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common  
thread for other mac users.


Best regards

Chris


On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP  
Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:

And Link  Signal Strength.

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under  
TCP/IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with  
a 15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online  
service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I  
received from a very helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in  
Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new modem/router  
I purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I  
can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the  
new one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one has  
exactly the same problem and the guy describes in the first  
post of the forum ie I can get online for about a minute before  
I get no connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, or  
go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The  
funny thing is he can use this new modem with no worries on his  
PC at his work in Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have  
had and it does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if  
you have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his  
work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris









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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for this info on the DNS addresses. I will forward you comments  
on to Trevor at Country wide so he is aware of it, as he has my non- 
working router, and I have the one that does work, thankfully,  
otherwise I would not be happy!


Regards

Chris

On 21/05/2010, at 4:27 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use  
automatic DNS' and add the one's for your State.

i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.242.33
 Secondary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.226.33

Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro

http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content 



Cheers,
Ronni

On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3  
hours with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it appears  
that the earlier software version on the loan router works, but the  
later version on the new router does not!!

We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well.

The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the  
link and the actual admin summary page.


He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common  
thread for other mac users.


Best regards

Chris


On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP  
Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:

And Link  Signal Strength.

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under  
TCP/IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with  
a 15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online  
service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I  
received from a very helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in  
Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new modem/router  
I purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I  
can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the  
new one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one has  
exactly the same problem and the guy describes in the first  
post of the forum ie I can get online for about a minute before  
I get no connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, or  
go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The  
funny thing is he can use this new modem with no worries on his  
PC at his work in Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have  
had and it does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if  
you have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his  
work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris








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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

Did he try these DNS address in the NextG router. Untick 'Use automatic DNS' 
and add the one's for your State.
i.e. Primary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.242.33
 Secondary DNS Server IP Address:   61.9.226.33

Put the Router IP Address as the DNS Server on your MacBook Pro

http://bigpond.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/bigpond.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5586display=content

Cheers,
Ronni

On 21/05/2010, at 11:36 AM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3 hours 
 with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it appears that the 
 earlier software version on the loan router works, but the later version on 
 the new router does not!! 
 We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well.
 
 The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the link and 
 the actual admin summary page.
 
 He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common thread for 
 other mac users.
 
 Best regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP Address: 
 Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:
 And Link  Signal Strength. 
 
 http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronnie
 
 I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/IP it 
 shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.
 
 Thanks very much Ronni
 
 Chris
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
 Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi muggers
 
 Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.
 
 I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a 15 
 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online service. This 
 link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I received from a very 
 helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as 
 myself about the new modem/router I purchased a few months ago.
 
 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html
 
 The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can still 
 be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one doesnt and we 
 cannot understand why. The new one has exactly the same problem and the 
 guy describes in the first post of the forum ie I can get online for 
 about a minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly restart 
 the modem, or go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The 
 funny thing is he can use this new modem with no worries on his PC at his 
 work in Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have had and it does the 
 same thing.
 
 If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you have 
 been able to find a solution.
 
 The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go through a 
 few ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.
 
 Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 
 



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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronni

Thanks heaps for your link and info on this problem. I spent over 3  
hours with the Telstra guy  with no solution except that it appears  
that the earlier software version on the loan router works, but the  
later version on the new router does not!!

We went through all the settings outlined on the admin page as well.

The Primary and secondary DNS server addresses differ between the link  
and the actual admin summary page.


He is going to ask Big Pond to investigate, as it may be a common  
thread for other mac users.


Best regards

Chris


On 18/05/2010, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP  
Address: Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:

And Link  Signal Strength.

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/ 
IP it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a  
15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online  
service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I  
received from a very helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in  
Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new modem/router I  
purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I  
can still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new  
one doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one has exactly  
the same problem and the guy describes in the first post of the  
forum ie I can get online for about a minute before I get no  
connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, or go into  
the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The funny thing  
is he can use this new modem with no worries on his PC at his  
work in Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have had and it  
does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if  
you have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris









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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Chris Burton]

Hi Ronnie

I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/IP  
it shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.


Thanks very much Ronni

Chris

On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi muggers

Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.

I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a  
15 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online  
service. This link to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I  
received from a very helpful manager at Telstra Countrywide in  
Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new modem/router I  
purchased a few months ago.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html

The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can  
still be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one  
doesnt and we cannot understand why. The new one has exactly the  
same problem and the guy describes in the first post of the forum  
ie I can get online for about a minute before I get no connection.  
I have to constantly restart the modem, or go into the bigpond  
admin page to restart the software. The funny thing is he can use  
this new modem with no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury.  
This is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing.


If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you  
have been able to find a solution.


The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go  
through a few ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.


Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem

kind regards

chris









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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

Click on the link below and then see what LAN IP Address: WAN IP Address: 
Default Gateway: Primary DNS Server: Secondary DNS Server:
And Link  Signal Strength. 

http://emulators.netcomm.com.au/3g9wb/index_1.html

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 2:16 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi Ronnie
 
 I checked under Network/Advanced in the System Prefs, and under TCP/IP it 
 shows Using DHCP for IPv4 and 'Automatically' for IPv6.
 
 Thanks very much Ronni
 
 Chris
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
 Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi muggers
 
 Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.
 
 I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a 15 
 MacBook Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online service. This link 
 to Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I received from a very helpful 
 manager at Telstra Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about 
 the new modem/router I purchased a few months ago.
 
 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html
 
 The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can still 
 be online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one doesnt and we 
 cannot understand why. The new one has exactly the same problem and the guy 
 describes in the first post of the forum ie I can get online for about a 
 minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, 
 or go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The funny thing 
 is he can use this new modem with no worries on his PC at his work in 
 Bunbury. This is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing.
 
 If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you have 
 been able to find a solution.
 
 The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go through a few 
 ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.
 
 Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 






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Re: Telstra Wireless Next G Gateway modem/router

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Chris,

That is a Netcomm 3G9WB isn't it?
Are you using a Static IP Address or DHCP?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 18/05/2010, at 12:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi muggers
 
 Hope things are ticking along nicely for all.
 
 I have an unusual problem it seems using the above system with a 15 MacBook 
 Pro (OS 10.5.8 intel 2.2) at home for my online service. This link to 
 Whirlpool about it (dated Nov 2008) I received from a very helpful manager at 
 Telstra Countrywide in Bunbury who is as baffled as myself about the new 
 modem/router I purchased a few months ago.
 
 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1096198.html
 
 The baffling thing is that his loan router he has sent me (so I can still be 
 online) actually does work with my mac, but the new one doesnt and we cannot 
 understand why. The new one has exactly the same problem and the guy 
 describes in the first post of the forum ie I can get online for about a 
 minute before I get no connection. I have to constantly restart the modem, or 
 go into the bigpond admin page to restart the software. The funny thing is he 
 can use this new modem with no worries on his PC at his work in Bunbury. This 
 is the second new modem I have had and it does the same thing.
 
 If anyone has any experience like this I would love to hear if you have been 
 able to find a solution.
 
 The telstra bloke is coming around again to set it up and go through a few 
 ideas he has after speaking with people at his work.
 
 Many thanks for any help and advice on this problem
 
 kind regards
 
 chris
 






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Re: Telstra

[John Feltham]

G'day Dick,

On 10/02/2010, at 9:57 AM, Richard Anderson wrote:

 Having spent hours talking to non-english speaking Telstra call
 centres, I'm stll no closer to having my phone fixed.

I am surprised that you got a real person, non-english speaking or  
other-wise, to actually answer your phone call.


ooroo






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Re: Telstra

[Graeme Winters]

IINET have a 24/7 call centre and they live in Hay Street Subiaco
I find them quite easy to contact and if a queue of callers they invite you to 
leave your number and they call back. And they do call back
I have telephone and internet connection bundled
Yes they do have some in call centre with foreign accents that makes it hard 
for old deaf people to understand but with a speaker phone it works fine

Graeme 
On 10/02/2010, at 9:57 AM, Richard Anderson wrote:

 
 Having spent hours talking to non-english speaking Telstra call centres, I'm 
 stll no closer to having my phone fixed.
 Are all telecoms as bad or does anyone have any suggestions for one with a 
 decent call centre
 
 Dick Anderson
 
 R. A. Anderson.
 65 Dalkeith Rd.,
 Nedlands,
 W.A. 6009
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra

[Eugene]

Hi Dick,

having gone naked with iiNet I wouldn't dare go back to Telstra  
(except for my mobile unfortunately).


Having said that, the last time I talked to an iiNet rep he spoke with  
a strong Indian accent and it was a very difficult and prolonged phone  
conversation.


  Regards,
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On 10/02/2010, at 9:57 AM, Richard Anderson wrote:



Having spent hours talking to non-english speaking Telstra call  
centres, I'm stll no closer to having my phone fixed.
Are all telecoms as bad or does anyone have any suggestions for one  
with a decent call centre


Dick Anderson

R. A. Anderson.
65 Dalkeith Rd.,
Nedlands,
W.A. 6009





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Re: Telstra

[Nicholas Pyers]

On 10/02/2010, at 1:14 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:

IINET have a 24/7 call centre and they live in Hay Street Subiaco
Yes they do have some in call centre with foreign accents that makes  
it hard for old deaf people to understand but with a speaker phone  
it works fine


They have call centers in Auckland (NZ), Sydney, Perth (there are 2 in  
Perth)  Cape Town (South Africa) in order to provide 24x7 coverage  
without people having to work graveyard shifts


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Paul van der Mey]

Reg

Have you actually tried the iPhone?

I ask because of my experience travelling in Tasmania and South Australia in 
particular.

On a number of occasions I've had to lend my iPhone (3G) because the person I 
was travelling with had no/not enough service (both on Telstra). They bought 
their phone specifically for country service at the time. I think it's a 
Motorola. Definitely was supposed to have the better coverage but my iPhone 
made it look poor.

Thank you

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On 11/01/2010, at 1:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 Hi all WAMUGgers
 
 We're thinking of updating the trusty LG mobile and need full Telstra Blue 
 Tick rural coverage (Yuck to Telstra I know). It seems to be narrowed down to 
 the Nokia 6720 Classic or Sony Ericsson W705. Nokia seem to be more reliable 
 but their Mac Multimedia Transfer software doesn't work with this particular 
 model. 
 http://www.nokia-asia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/nokia-multimedia-transfer/download
 
 I've found Salling Media Synch on the web and it looks good, 
 http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/mac/ but we would need to pay for it for 
 fastest uploads. There is an iSynch plug-in for this model though so that 
 seems Ok. Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an iPhone, 
 which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough range for our country 
 travelling?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Reg
 
 
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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Nicholas Pyers]

On 11/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an iPhone,  
which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough range for our  
country travelling?


Why not consider an iPhone?
The range is more dependent on your choice of carrier and you've  
already said you are looking at going with Telstra, which I have to  
admit does have the best network coverage in the country, so you  
should be covered there.


Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the range?   
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage and the iPhone  
3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


Plus you can add so many useful apps like one of the GPS apps (save  
having an extra GPS unit, or as a back up)... the Free Maccas WiFi (so  
you know where you can free WiFi, a bite to eat and most important a  
pit stop :)... Then there are dedicated Toilet finders :)... Install  
Skype on the iPhone and on the kids computers at home so when you are  
at a free WiFi spots you can call them for free :) and that is the tip  
of the iceberg (and don't forget a few simple games can relieve  
boredom for the passenger(s) :)


I've also seen people grab a cheap pre-paid SIM from both Optus (or a  
reseller like Woolworths) and Vodaphone and had them handy with a  
small amount of credit ($10-20) on them for the odd occasion when  
Telstra coverage is poor but you still need to make a call... just  
make sure your iPhone is unlocked to access all carriers (and don't  
forget to take your SIM removal tool with you - keep it with the spare  
sims in say an empty tic-tac container or similar size)... but I think  
this is more likely to useful over here on the East Coast, rather than  
in WA :(


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Reg Whitely]

Hi Nicholas

Thanks for your reply.

On 11/01/2010, at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:


On 11/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an iPhone,  
which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough range for  
our country travelling?


Why not consider an iPhone?
The range is more dependent on your choice of carrier and you've  
already said you are looking at going with Telstra, which I have to  
admit does have the best network coverage in the country, so you  
should be covered there.


We already have a $40 plan with Telstra, with the LG, which is out of  
plan but still working Ok, except for poor battery life.


Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage and  
the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest it  
won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in WA. We  
need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth, Bunbury, Albany  
and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is Telstra mobile range.  
They provide the best mobile coverage and charge the most.


Plus you can add so many useful apps like one of the GPS apps (save  
having an extra GPS unit, or as a back up)... the Free Maccas WiFi  
(so you know where you can free WiFi, a bite to eat and most  
important a pit stop :)... Then there are dedicated Toilet  
finders :)... Install Skype on the iPhone and on the kids computers  
at home so when you are at a free WiFi spots you can call them for  
free :) and that is the tip of the iceberg (and don't forget a few  
simple games can relieve boredom for the passenger(s) :)


Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and quite  
a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does GPS very  
well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on mobile phone  
triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's not an option.


I've also seen people grab a cheap pre-paid SIM from both Optus (or  
a reseller like Woolworths) and Vodaphone and had them handy with a  
small amount of credit ($10-20) on them for the odd occasion when  
Telstra coverage is poor but you still need to make a call... just  
make sure your iPhone is unlocked to access all carriers (and don't  
forget to take your SIM removal tool with you - keep it with the  
spare sims in say an empty tic-tac container or similar size)... but  
I think this is more likely to useful over here on the East Coast,  
rather than in WA :(


What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we have  
to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% coverage of  
Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


See here:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/index.html

Regards

Reg


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Chris Burton]

Hi Nick

I too was very much looking forward to buying a new iphone to replace  
my very old Sony Ericsson model. This was until my daughter came to  
stay in our new house and we found that it could not receive the 3G  
signal inside. This has been the case with a number of other models,  
and it seems that the colourbond roof and outside walls together with  
the large amount of insulation does just that: it reduces the signal  
strength inside the house. I found this to be the case with the recent  
Bigpond wireless broadband that I now have, and require an aerial to  
outside on the roof!


After looking around for blue tick and the you-beaut phones that would  
work, I have settled on the new Telstra T90 model, that is  supposed  
to have a very good reception. It has, and works inside the house, so  
now I dont have to go outside to either ring someone, or answer a call.


The T90 is not a fashion statement! But it works and is marketed as  
the 'tradies phone' as it is has a rubber casing and some water  
resistance as well. Go have a look at one of the telstra shops. I  
bought mine from Busselton Telephones on a 24 month plan.


So far so good, but Im waiting for my first bill

I will have to wait until the iphone gets a big upgrade! Damn, as I  
really wanted one.


All the best

chris


On 11/01/2010, at 9:51 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:



Hi Nicholas

Thanks for your reply.

On 11/01/2010, at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:


On 11/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an  
iPhone, which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough  
range for our country travelling?


Why not consider an iPhone?
The range is more dependent on your choice of carrier and you've  
already said you are looking at going with Telstra, which I have to  
admit does have the best network coverage in the country, so you  
should be covered there.


We already have a $40 plan with Telstra, with the LG, which is out  
of plan but still working Ok, except for poor battery life.


Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest  
it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in  
WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth, Bunbury,  
Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is Telstra  
mobile range. They provide the best mobile coverage and charge the  
most.


Plus you can add so many useful apps like one of the GPS apps (save  
having an extra GPS unit, or as a back up)... the Free Maccas WiFi  
(so you know where you can free WiFi, a bite to eat and most  
important a pit stop :)... Then there are dedicated Toilet  
finders :)... Install Skype on the iPhone and on the kids computers  
at home so when you are at a free WiFi spots you can call them for  
free :) and that is the tip of the iceberg (and don't forget a few  
simple games can relieve boredom for the passenger(s) :)


Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does  
GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on  
mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's not  
an option.


I've also seen people grab a cheap pre-paid SIM from both Optus (or  
a reseller like Woolworths) and Vodaphone and had them handy with a  
small amount of credit ($10-20) on them for the odd occasion when  
Telstra coverage is poor but you still need to make a call... just  
make sure your iPhone is unlocked to access all carriers (and don't  
forget to take your SIM removal tool with you - keep it with the  
spare sims in say an empty tic-tac container or similar size)...  
but I think this is more likely to useful over here on the East  
Coast, rather than in WA :(


What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we  
have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% coverage of  
Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


See here:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/index.html

Regards

Reg


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[choy]

On 11/01/2010, at 9:51 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:




Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest  
it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in  
WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth, Bunbury,  
Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is Telstra  
mobile range. They provide the best mobile coverage and charge the  
most.


I must say that during my 6 months at Bunbury regional hospital,  
travelling to margaret river, and regional areas for surgical days as  
well as Albany my coverage has been fine with telstra, (with vodafone  
it was limited to town centers only). What about a cheapo for your  
camping trips and the iphone for the other times? I used a samsung  
freebie for a while (waiting for my iphone!)




Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does  
GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on  
mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's not  
an option.
It has GPS and its own maps, admittedly the triangulation is not as  
good as your TomTom (it's aGPS), but then again this doesn't really  
matter since you have a tomtom for your needs. If you want to use it  
and dump the tomtom, you will need the tomtom for iphone cradle which  
adds an extra GPS chip to improve triangulation.




What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we  
have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% coverage of  
Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


IMO all the phones you have asked about are good for phone calls only,  
they aren't expandable and their built-in features are average at  
best. If I had to buy another phone because of coverage issues I'd use  
it for just that and have an iphone or ipod touch for everything else.  
Of the two phones that you've chosen I'd go for the Nokia 6720, but I  
wouldn't rely on the salling software too much as I've had issues with  
it before (ie contacts wiped etc).


I don't know how heavily you need to rely on the blue-tick program -  
my friend is a communications engineer with telstra, he tells me that  
other mobiles meet rural requirements, they just haven't been  
certified with the program. The other good phones with good  
reception (and play nicer with macs!) are the Nokia N85 and the E71. I  
can personally vouch for the E71 (my wife has one), others have said  
good things reception wise with the n85 and both of them are actually  
usable for PIM stuff.
I coudn't find the n85 (next g version) on telstra's website, but  
that's not surprising as they never have the full range online. Here's  
a link to the phone:


http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/nokia-n85-3-p/nok-n85-3.htm

If you get that or the E71 they work with nokia's plugin or you can  
get the missing sync, which I have used for the last 5 years and trust  
to sync my info.


http://www.markspace.com/products/symbian/ms-overview-mac.php?source=picker_symbian

Good luck, let us know if you are recommended any other phones.

Dave




See here:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/index.html

Regards

Reg


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[choy]

HI Chris,

The other alternative to your in-house problem would have been to buy  
a signal booster, since it was only occurring in your house. These are  
available for $150-450 depending on how much coverage you need.


I only say this because I've seen the blue tick range and frankly  
it's crap and I don't think people should have to settle for the  
reject handsets that Telstra deem worthy to certify. The only people  
that truly need blue tick handsets are those travelling around  
australia on a camper van or with no fixed address. Many of the phones  
on the market meet or exceed the blue tick spec, it's just down to  
telstra reducing costs of certifying handsets.



Dave

On 11/01/2010, at 10:10 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Hi Nick

I too was very much looking forward to buying a new iphone to  
replace my very old Sony Ericsson model. This was until my daughter  
came to stay in our new house and we found that it could not receive  
the 3G signal inside. This has been the case with a number of other  
models, and it seems that the colourbond roof and outside walls  
together with the large amount of insulation does just that: it  
reduces the signal strength inside the house. I found this to be the  
case with the recent Bigpond wireless broadband that I now have, and  
require an aerial to outside on the roof!


After looking around for blue tick and the you-beaut phones that  
would work, I have settled on the new Telstra T90 model, that is   
supposed to have a very good reception. It has, and works inside the  
house, so now I dont have to go outside to either ring someone, or  
answer a call.


The T90 is not a fashion statement! But it works and is marketed as  
the 'tradies phone' as it is has a rubber casing and some water  
resistance as well. Go have a look at one of the telstra shops. I  
bought mine from Busselton Telephones on a 24 month plan.


So far so good, but Im waiting for my first bill

I will have to wait until the iphone gets a big upgrade! Damn, as I  
really wanted one.


All the best

chris


On 11/01/2010, at 9:51 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:



Hi Nicholas

Thanks for your reply.

On 11/01/2010, at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:


On 11/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an  
iPhone, which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough  
range for our country travelling?


Why not consider an iPhone?
The range is more dependent on your choice of carrier and you've  
already said you are looking at going with Telstra, which I have  
to admit does have the best network coverage in the country, so  
you should be covered there.


We already have a $40 plan with Telstra, with the LG, which is out  
of plan but still working Ok, except for poor battery life.


Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest  
it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in  
WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth,  
Bunbury, Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is  
Telstra mobile range. They provide the best mobile coverage and  
charge the most.


Plus you can add so many useful apps like one of the GPS apps  
(save having an extra GPS unit, or as a back up)... the Free  
Maccas WiFi (so you know where you can free WiFi, a bite to eat  
and most important a pit stop :)... Then there are dedicated  
Toilet finders :)... Install Skype on the iPhone and on the kids  
computers at home so when you are at a free WiFi spots you can  
call them for free :) and that is the tip of the iceberg (and  
don't forget a few simple games can relieve boredom for the  
passenger(s) :)


Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does  
GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on  
mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's not  
an option.


I've also seen people grab a cheap pre-paid SIM from both Optus  
(or a reseller like Woolworths) and Vodaphone and had them handy  
with a small amount of credit ($10-20) on them for the odd  
occasion when Telstra coverage is poor but you still need to make  
a call... just make sure your iPhone is unlocked to access all  
carriers (and don't forget to take your SIM removal tool with you  
- keep it with the spare sims in say an empty tic-tac container or  
similar size)... but I think this is more likely to useful over  
here on the East Coast, rather than in WA :(


What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we  
have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% 

Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Reg Whitely]

Thanks Dave

I'm thinking about your option of  What about a cheapo for your  
camping trips and the iphone for the other times? I used a samsung  
freebie for a while (waiting for my iphone!). I won a Samsung prepaid  
cheapie in a Mysouthwest comp 18 months ago and it still works Ok.  
I'll look into the Nokia N85 and the E71. Have you any info on the  
Nokia 6700 Slide http://www.nokia.com.au/find-products/all-phones/nokia-6700-slide 
. It looks great but there's nobody on Oz sites that I can find yet,  
selling them.


Reg


On 11/01/2010, at 10:25 PM, choy wrote:




On 11/01/2010, at 9:51 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:




Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest  
it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in  
WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth,  
Bunbury, Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is  
Telstra mobile range. They provide the best mobile coverage and  
charge the most.


I must say that during my 6 months at Bunbury regional hospital,  
travelling to margaret river, and regional areas for surgical days  
as well as Albany my coverage has been fine with telstra, (with  
vodafone it was limited to town centers only). What about a cheapo  
for your camping trips and the iphone for the other times? I used a  
samsung freebie for a while (waiting for my iphone!)




Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does  
GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on  
mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's not  
an option.
It has GPS and its own maps, admittedly the triangulation is not as  
good as your TomTom (it's aGPS), but then again this doesn't really  
matter since you have a tomtom for your needs. If you want to use it  
and dump the tomtom, you will need the tomtom for iphone cradle  
which adds an extra GPS chip to improve triangulation.




What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we  
have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% coverage of  
Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


IMO all the phones you have asked about are good for phone calls  
only, they aren't expandable and their built-in features are average  
at best. If I had to buy another phone because of coverage issues  
I'd use it for just that and have an iphone or ipod touch for  
everything else. Of the two phones that you've chosen I'd go for the  
Nokia 6720, but I wouldn't rely on the salling software too much as  
I've had issues with it before (ie contacts wiped etc).


I don't know how heavily you need to rely on the blue-tick program -  
my friend is a communications engineer with telstra, he tells me  
that other mobiles meet rural requirements, they just haven't been  
certified with the program. The other good phones with good  
reception (and play nicer with macs!) are the Nokia N85 and the E71.  
I can personally vouch for the E71 (my wife has one), others have  
said good things reception wise with the n85 and both of them are  
actually usable for PIM stuff.
I coudn't find the n85 (next g version) on telstra's website, but  
that's not surprising as they never have the full range online.  
Here's a link to the phone:


http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/nokia-n85-3-p/nok-n85-3.htm

If you get that or the E71 they work with nokia's plugin or you can  
get the missing sync, which I have used for the last 5 years and  
trust to sync my info.


http://www.markspace.com/products/symbian/ms-overview-mac.php?source=picker_symbian

Good luck, let us know if you are recommended any other phones.

Dave




See here:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/index.html

Regards

Reg


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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[choy]

HI Reg

The 6700 was only announced in Nov 2009 and the official release date  
was a vague Q1 2010. Like you I haven't seen it anywhere and it's  
not on my distributor lists at all yet. Unfortunately that could mean  
it only gets released in March.


On top of that, Nokia have a tradition of releasing multiple versions  
of the phone to carriers to suit the network. The stock 6700 slide  
will work only on the 900/1900/2100MHz networks which won't help you  
for 850mhz next g coverage. As with the E71 hopefully Nokia will  
release a specific version for telstra but I haven't seen or heard of  
an 850Mhz one for australia at this stage(there is an american 850mhz  
one). Don't hold your breath! It might take till mid/end of Q2 for an  
850mhz version to be released.


Dave

On 11/01/2010, at 10:59 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:



Thanks Dave

I'm thinking about your option of  What about a cheapo for your  
camping trips and the iphone for the other times? I used a samsung  
freebie for a while (waiting for my iphone!). I won a Samsung  
prepaid cheapie in a Mysouthwest comp 18 months ago and it still  
works Ok. I'll look into the Nokia N85 and the E71. Have you any  
info on the Nokia 6700 Slide http://www.nokia.com.au/find-products/all-phones/nokia-6700-slide 
. It looks great but there's nobody on Oz sites that I can find yet,  
selling them.


Reg


On 11/01/2010, at 10:25 PM, choy wrote:




On 11/01/2010, at 9:51 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:




Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports  
suggest it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure  
here in WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to  
Perth, Bunbury, Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever  
there is Telstra mobile range. They provide the best mobile  
coverage and charge the most.


I must say that during my 6 months at Bunbury regional hospital,  
travelling to margaret river, and regional areas for surgical days  
as well as Albany my coverage has been fine with telstra, (with  
vodafone it was limited to town centers only). What about a cheapo  
for your camping trips and the iphone for the other times? I used a  
samsung freebie for a while (waiting for my iphone!)




Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there. The Tomtom does  
GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is it reliant on  
mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to that, that's  
not an option.
It has GPS and its own maps, admittedly the triangulation is not as  
good as your TomTom (it's aGPS), but then again this doesn't really  
matter since you have a tomtom for your needs. If you want to use  
it and dump the tomtom, you will need the tomtom for iphone cradle  
which adds an extra GPS chip to improve triangulation.




What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian  
services are more compact and that you may not appreciate the  
distances we have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost  
100% coverage of Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


IMO all the phones you have asked about are good for phone calls  
only, they aren't expandable and their built-in features are  
average at best. If I had to buy another phone because of coverage  
issues I'd use it for just that and have an iphone or ipod touch  
for everything else. Of the two phones that you've chosen I'd go  
for the Nokia 6720, but I wouldn't rely on the salling software too  
much as I've had issues with it before (ie contacts wiped etc).


I don't know how heavily you need to rely on the blue-tick program  
- my friend is a communications engineer with telstra, he tells me  
that other mobiles meet rural requirements, they just haven't been  
certified with the program. The other good phones with good  
reception (and play nicer with macs!) are the Nokia N85 and the  
E71. I can personally vouch for the E71 (my wife has one), others  
have said good things reception wise with the n85 and both of them  
are actually usable for PIM stuff.
I coudn't find the n85 (next g version) on telstra's website, but  
that's not surprising as they never have the full range online.  
Here's a link to the phone:


http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/nokia-n85-3-p/nok-n85-3.htm

If you get that or the E71 they work with nokia's plugin or you can  
get the missing sync, which I have used for the last 5 years and  
trust to sync my info.


http://www.markspace.com/products/symbian/ms-overview-mac.php?source=picker_symbian

Good luck, let us know if you are recommended any other phones.

Dave




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Re: Telstra Blue Tick Mobile Phones and Mac Compatibility

[Nicholas Pyers]

On 12/01/2010, at 12:51 AM, Reg Whitely wrote:

Hi Nicholas
Thanks for your reply.
On 11/01/2010, at 8:23 PM, Nicholas Pyers wrote:
On 11/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
Does anyone out there have any advice, other than to buy an  
iPhone, which isn't an option as it really doesn't have enough  
range for our country travelling?


Why not consider an iPhone?
The range is more dependent on your choice of carrier and you've  
already said you are looking at going with Telstra, which I have to  
admit does have the best network coverage in the country, so you  
should be covered there.


We already have a $40 plan with Telstra, with the LG, which is out  
of plan but still working Ok, except for poor battery life.


OK

Can you borrow a friends iPhone for a weekend to test the  
range?  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the coverage  
and the iPhone 3GS has even better reception than the 3G.


I admit I've never tried the iPhone in Gero but all reports suggest  
it won't work over the extended travel distances we endure here in  
WA. We need a phone that will work from Geraldton to Perth, Bunbury,  
Albany and elsewhere for our camping, wherever there is Telstra  
mobile range. They provide the best mobile coverage and charge the  
most.


Yes, they do provide the best coverage and they charge a nice premium  
for that service... but if you need it, then perhaps there is


Plus you can add so many useful apps like one of the GPS apps (save  
having an extra GPS unit, or as a back up)... the Free Maccas WiFi  
(so you know where you can free WiFi, a bite to eat and most  
important a pit stop :)... Then there are dedicated Toilet  
finders :)... Install Skype on the iPhone and on the kids computers  
at home so when you are at a free WiFi spots you can call them for  
free :) and that is the tip of the iceberg (and don't forget a few  
simple games can relieve boredom for the passenger(s) :)


Sounds Ok if it is in range. There's a Macca's in Geraldton and  
quite a few in Perth. So what? We don't go there.


I don't eat much at Macca's myself these days... but today I used  
three different Macca's stores to quickly check for an email I was  
expecting, so it can be useful to know their locations for this and  
pitstops :)

and there are plenty of other WiFi hotspots spread around the place

The Tomtom does GPS very well. Is the iPhone satellite enabled or is  
it reliant on mobile phone triangulation? If it is restricted to  
that, that's not an option.


It is assisted GPS... which means it uses the satellites in  
conjunction with tower triangulation.


I've also seen people grab a cheap pre-paid SIM from both Optus (or  
a reseller like Woolworths) and Vodaphone and had them handy with a  
small amount of credit ($10-20) on them for the odd occasion when  
Telstra coverage is poor but you still need to make a call... just  
make sure your iPhone is unlocked to access all carriers (and don't  
forget to take your SIM removal tool with you - keep it with the  
spare sims in say an empty tic-tac container or similar size)...  
but I think this is more likely to useful over here on the East  
Coast, rather than in WA :(


What is the best iPhone deal available at the moment for users in  
rural (Western Australian) areas? I suspect that Victorian services  
are more compact and that you may not appreciate the distances we  
have to travel; that perhaps Telstra gives almost 100% coverage of  
Victoria, compared to Western Australia.


Actually, I am fully aware of the vast distances needed to travel  
between towns in WA - hell, I've even travelled the 'vast' distances  
just between suburbs in Perth :)... and these days I'm based in  
Sydney :(


That said, I don't know which plan to recommend... it all boils down  
to how many calls you make a month, how many texts you send and how  
much data you want to access... these variables all affect the choice  
of plans for both metro and regional users of the iPhone.



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Re: telstra enables iphone tethering

[Kim Maher]

Hi Ronni

Great news re tethering on the iPhone through Telstra, I was considering 
changing provider because the lack of tethering by Telstra, but not now.  WAMUG 
is well worth being a member of and all the contributions are so helpful, a 
great concept.

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On 08/12/2009, at 3:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 On 08/12/2009, at 7:51 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 Hi all, in case you hadn't realised. I noticed a service provider update 
 yesterday when my iphone was connected to my Mac, but then found this 
 article this morning.
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/144800/2009/12/australia_tethering.html
 
 Of course, it would be very expensive to use.
 
 cheers, Susan.
 
 
 Hi Susan,
 
 Telstra has confirmed that it's not charging extra for iPhone tethering. It's 
 included in your current Data Pack usage.
 Go over your Data Pack limit and you will pay for the extra browsing at a 
 reduced rate  
 
  There’s no extra charge, although you’ll need to be very mindful of your 
 included data allowance, as tethering is a surefire way to burn through that 
 150MB if you’re on a smaller plan (such as I am $50 a mth which includes 
 150MB which equates to 153,600kB Data pack )
 
 http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2009/12/07/apple-iphone™-tethering-with-telstra/
 Data used when tethering is charged at either a ‘Pay as you go’ rate or as 
 part of a Browsing Pack.  
 
 Cheers,
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Re: telstra enables iphone tethering

[Ronda Brown]

On 08/12/2009, at 7:51 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 Hi all, in case you hadn't realised. I noticed a service provider update 
 yesterday when my iphone was connected to my Mac, but then found this article 
 this morning.
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/144800/2009/12/australia_tethering.html
 
 Of course, it would be very expensive to use.
 
 cheers, Susan.


Hi Susan,

Telstra has confirmed that it's not charging extra for iPhone tethering. It's 
included in your current Data Pack usage.
Go over your Data Pack limit and you will pay for the extra browsing at a 
reduced rate  

 There’s no extra charge, although you’ll need to be very mindful of your 
included data allowance, as tethering is a surefire way to burn through that 
150MB if you’re on a smaller plan (such as I am $50 a mth which includes 150MB 
which equates to 153,600kB Data pack )

http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2009/12/07/apple-iphone™-tethering-with-telstra/
Data used when tethering is charged at either a ‘Pay as you go’ rate or as 
part of a Browsing Pack.  

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra Cable

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 10/11/2009, at 9:36 AM, Tim Law wrote:

 Has anyone had experiences with Telstra Cable internet and Mac households
 that are worth me knowing about?
 


I have to agree with all the comments posted by Cable users. In my experience 
(pretty much since they made it available) download speeds are excellent. 
Upload speeds are excruciating. My account quotes an upload speed of 128Kb/s. I 
have never achieved anything close to this. Fortunately, few if any of things I 
do on the net require a fast upload speed (I did try hosting a multiuser iChat 
session once, which failed miserably, but where I do lose out badly is with 
Back To My Mac. My home upload speeds make it barely useable), but if you do 
have need of decent upload speed the current iteration of Telstra Cable is not 
for you.

Of course, if you lived in Sydney or Melbourne, things would be different. You 
could pay more for twice the upload speed, but that's not available here. But 
twice the speed of molasses is still the speed of molasses (substitute any word 
you like for molasses...) 

Despite download speeds, however, every other aspect of the service is first 
class. Even support, on the rare occasions that I've had to use it, is friendly 
and efficient once you get past the stupid robot thingy. 
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Re: Telstra Cable

[Stephen Atherton]

Fixing something that wasn't broken, huh?

Your anxiety may be well founded Tim. I've been with Bigpond cable  
(now Cable Extreme) for 7 + years (2 houses) and look forward to  
moving to iinet.


The 70 megs a second is theoretical. Unlike ADSL, one shares bandwidth  
with those in your area who use cable. If they all watch Foxtel, you  
won't get theoretical speeds. I get 19 Mbps at best. Normally 9.83  
Mbps (depending on which mirror you test with).


Macs are no issue, what is an issue is upload if you want to host a  
server or do a lot of video conferencing. Upload is crippled for some  
reason (there is no need for it to be) compared to ADSL 2+. Their  
silly heartbeat system went away recently. It was a pain.


Telstra support will be a challenge. Be prepared to be on hold and  
cope with the brain-dead voice recognition system. And it seems cable  
support (should you get a human) are all in Manila, so a few words of  
Tagalog can't hurt :-)


Of course, all of above only my experience. perhaps others having  
glowing reviews?


Best of luck.

On 10/11/2009, at 11:36 AM, Tim Law wrote:



Hello,

I've signed up to move to Telstra Cable internet as their deal came  
out a
bit cheaper than iinet, and I was seduced by 'indications' of  
70mBs.  It's
using the same cable that was laid in my street a few years ago by  
Foxtel.
We used foxtel for a short while, so their box is on the wall and I  
expect
the hard wiring install shouldn't be too hard. They will install a  
wireless

router with four ethernet connections.

I have been very happy with iinet's speed and service and there is  
more than

a touch of anxiety about moving to Bigpond and their administration.

I've got 2 PowerPC Macs on airport running 10.5.8 and one iMac  
PowerPC on
10.5.8 that will need an ethernet cable to the new router, or they  
will
provide a wireless USB dongle to suit.   I've also go a PC laptop  
running

XP.

Has anyone had experiences with Telstra Cable internet and Mac  
households

that are worth me knowing about?

Thanks
Tim




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Re: Telstra Cable

[Bill Parker]

Tim,

I have just had an experience not worth dying for with Telstra.   I'll  
not go into details, but I found that Telstra and Bigpond are ( or  
seem to be) managed separately.   After days on the phone it was fixed  
and the key help point was  Multiple Services   these people could  
see both phone and internet accounts simultaneously. They were  
excellent.



And the speed claims are no more than that.I was promised 20MB/ 
s.Its rarely above 10, if its school homework time, less.   But  
that also depends on street hardware and distances.


Bill



On 10/11/2009, at 9:36 AM, Tim Law wrote:



Hello,

I've signed up to move to Telstra Cable internet as their deal came  
out a
bit cheaper than iinet, and I was seduced by 'indications' of  
70mBs.  It's
using the same cable that was laid in my street a few years ago by  
Foxtel.
We used foxtel for a short while, so their box is on the wall and I  
expect
the hard wiring install shouldn't be too hard. They will install a  
wireless

router with four ethernet connections.

I have been very happy with iinet's speed and service and there is  
more than

a touch of anxiety about moving to Bigpond and their administration.

I've got 2 PowerPC Macs on airport running 10.5.8 and one iMac  
PowerPC on
10.5.8 that will need an ethernet cable to the new router, or they  
will
provide a wireless USB dongle to suit.   I've also go a PC laptop  
running

XP.

Has anyone had experiences with Telstra Cable internet and Mac  
households

that are worth me knowing about?

Thanks
Tim




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Re: Telstra Cable

[Tim Law]

Thanks Stephen,

 Fixing something that wasn't broken, huh?
Yup   :-\

http://www.ozspeedtest.com/ shows
Your line speed is 8.24 Mbps (8242 kbps).
Your download speed is 1.01 MB/s (1030 KB/s).
Via my current iinet account.

Tim





On 10/11/09 9:54 AM, Stephen Atherton sather...@asia.apple.com wrote:

 Fixing something that wasn't broken, huh?
 
 Your anxiety may be well founded Tim. I've been with Bigpond cable (now Cable
 Extreme) for 7 + years (2 houses) and look forward to moving to iinet.
 
 The 70 megs a second is theoretical. Unlike ADSL, one shares bandwidth with
 those in your area who use cable. If they all watch Foxtel, you won't get
 theoretical speeds. I get 19 Mbps at best. Normally 9.83 Mbps (depending on
 which mirror you test with).
 
 Macs are no issue, what is an issue is upload if you want to host a server or
 do a lot of video conferencing. Upload is crippled for some reason (there is
 no need for it to be) compared to ADSL 2+. Their silly heartbeat system went
 away recently. It was a pain.
 
 Telstra support will be a challenge. Be prepared to be on hold and cope with
 the brain-dead voice recognition system. And it seems cable support (should
 you get a human) are all in Manila, so a few words of Tagalog can't hurt :-)
 
 Of course, all of above only my experience. perhaps others having glowing
 reviews?
 
 Best of luck.
 
 On 10/11/2009, at 11:36 AM, Tim Law wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I've signed up to move to Telstra Cable internet as their deal came out a
 bit cheaper than iinet, and I was seduced by 'indications' of 70mBs.  It's
 using the same cable that was laid in my street a few years ago by Foxtel.
 We used foxtel for a short while, so their box is on the wall and I expect
 the hard wiring install shouldn't be too hard. They will install a wireless
 router with four ethernet connections.
 
 I have been very happy with iinet's speed and service and there is more than
 a touch of anxiety about moving to Bigpond and their administration.
 
 I've got 2 PowerPC Macs on airport running 10.5.8 and one iMac PowerPC on
 10.5.8 that will need an ethernet cable to the new router, or they will
 provide a wireless USB dongle to suit.   I've also go a PC laptop running
 XP.
 
 Has anyone had experiences with Telstra Cable internet and Mac households
 that are worth me knowing about?
 
 Thanks
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Re: Telstra Cable

[Brett Carboni]

I've been on Telstra Cable for around 10 years. I don't have any tech  
problems any more. Downloads can be pretty fast but uploads are slow  
which is bad if you Skype videoconference.


The major problem is the cap. 12 Gb doesn't allow much and I see deals  
advertised everywhere even on the backs of buses with ISP's with more.


I would change for those two reasons. But an advantage is that it  
doesn't require a phone line which I don't need.


Brett
Tsunami
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On 10/11/2009, at 9:36 AM, Tim Law wrote:



Hello,

I've signed up to move to Telstra Cable internet as their deal came  
out a
bit cheaper than iinet, and I was seduced by 'indications' of  
70mBs.  It's
using the same cable that was laid in my street a few years ago by  
Foxtel.
We used foxtel for a short while, so their box is on the wall and I  
expect
the hard wiring install shouldn't be too hard. They will install a  
wireless

router with four ethernet connections.

I have been very happy with iinet's speed and service and there is  
more than

a touch of anxiety about moving to Bigpond and their administration.

I've got 2 PowerPC Macs on airport running 10.5.8 and one iMac  
PowerPC on
10.5.8 that will need an ethernet cable to the new router, or they  
will
provide a wireless USB dongle to suit.   I've also go a PC laptop  
running

XP.

Has anyone had experiences with Telstra Cable internet and Mac  
households

that are worth me knowing about?

Thanks
Tim




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Re: Telstra Wireless Internet - Help Options

[Daniel Kerr]

On 27/6/09 9:44 PM, David Moyle moyla...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Evening all,
 
 Hope I can get some advice for a friend.
 
 He is currently on a Telstra Wireless Internet Plan, the device that was
 supplied to him was a Maxon BP3-USB.
 
 His intention is to take it with him and use it in his laptop but also use it
 to provide access to the two/three computers at his house. As a solution to
 this we investigated a NetGear MBR624GU but unfortunately this Maxon model
 isn't supported. Presumely this is because it requires a computer to be
 'intelligent' and connect to the network.
 
 As a possible solution we figured we might be able to get the plan converted
 and a Sierra Wireless AC880U supplied as an alternative device.
 Telstra's basic response was he would have to break contract ($$) and then get
 a new contract but there was no guarantee that they could provide the Sierra
 as its not made or stocked any more.
 
 The other solution Telstra said was to purchase their equivalent of the
 NetGear but this removes the powerless, mobility feature.
 
 Any suggestions or thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 


Hi David

Might not be a solution, but another possibility would be to have it
plugged into one computer, then using Internet Sharing (System
Preferences/Sharing). You can then turn on Sharing and set it up to share
the internet.
It would read something like..
Share your connection from: Aircard
To computers using: Airport. (Tick box)

This would then bring the internet in from the BP3-USB and share it back out
via Airport.
Downside would be that the sharing computer would have to be on all the time
that others want access.
But you could set it up with something like:
Screen to go to sleep after x minutes but the computer to go to sleep never.
Therefore the computer would always stay on, but when not being used the
screen would go to sleep.

Not a perfect solution, but just another option if nothing else can be
found.

Hope that helps.

Kind Regard
Daniel
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Re: Telstra Wireless Internet - Help Options

[Adrian Skehan]

Hi David,

Did you check with Telstra? When I looked at the Telstra Wireless  
plans the deal included a wireless mode/router with 4 ethernet ports  
and the USB device.





Regards,

Adrian
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On 27/06/2009, at 9:44 PM, David Moyle wrote:


Evening all,

Hope I can get some advice for a friend.

He is currently on a Telstra Wireless Internet Plan, the device that  
was supplied to him was a Maxon BP3-USB.


His intention is to take it with him and use it in his laptop but  
also use it to provide access to the two/three computers at his  
house. As a solution to this we investigated a NetGear MBR624GU but  
unfortunately this Maxon model isn't supported. Presumely this is  
because it requires a computer to be 'intelligent' and connect to  
the network.


As a possible solution we figured we might be able to get the plan  
converted and a Sierra Wireless AC880U supplied as an alternative  
device.
Telstra's basic response was he would have to break contract ($$)  
and then get a new contract but there was no guarantee that they  
could provide the Sierra as its not made or stocked any more.


The other solution Telstra said was to purchase their equivalent of  
the NetGear but this removes the powerless, mobility feature.


Any suggestions or thoughts?

Cheers

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Re: Telstra Wireless Internet - Help Options

[Stuart Evans]

Hi David,

Try This;

http://www.maxon.com.au/products_ethernet_docking_station_overview.php

It is made by Maxon to share NextG USB modems of all varieties. You can see
a picture of a BP3-USB docked to it.

We can supply it to you, but someone local to you may have it in stock.
Around $139-$149.


Cheers,
Stuart


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On 28/06/09 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au wrote:

 Evening all,
 
 Hope I can get some advice for a friend.
 
 He is currently on a Telstra Wireless Internet Plan, the device that was
 supplied to him was a Maxon BP3-USB.
 
 His intention is to take it with him and use it in his laptop but also use it
 to provide access to the two/three computers at his house. As a solution to
 this we investigated a NetGear MBR624GU but unfortunately this Maxon model
 isn't supported. Presumely this is because it requires a computer to be
 'intelligent' and connect to the network.
 
 As a possible solution we figured we might be able to get the plan converted
 and a Sierra Wireless AC880U supplied as an alternative device.
 Telstra's basic response was he would have to break contract ($$) and then get
 a new contract but there was no guarantee that they could provide the Sierra
 as its not made or stocked any more.
 
 The other solution Telstra said was to purchase their equivalent of the
 NetGear but this removes the powerless, mobility feature.
 
 Any suggestions or thoughts?

 



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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Ronda Brown]

On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say Telstra 3G i think.
It now says  Telstra E
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.

If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data access.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Rod, make sure you have 3g switched on in preferences. If you have,  
it should have 3g there. cheers, Susan

On 21/06/2009, at 8:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say Telstra 3G i think.
It now says  Telstra E
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.
If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data  
access.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Rod Blitvich]

A!
That's it.
Great ta Susan, and ta Ronnie also.
This seemed to happen since upgrading to 3.0 or playing with Tethering
ta
Rod



On 21/06/2009, at 8:26 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:

Hi Rod, make sure you have 3g switched on in preferences. If you  
have, it should have 3g there. cheers, Susan

On 21/06/2009, at 8:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say Telstra 3G i think.
It now says  Telstra E
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.
If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data  
access.


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: Telstra NextG tethering does work already

[Rod Blitvich]

Thanks Eugene
Got it working on mine.
won't use it much - maybe when in the bush
cheers
Rod


On 19/06/2009, at 7:31 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Rod,

Telstra will charge at data rate. For my plan that works out at $1  
per Mb. Not really encouraging me to use it.


I think I'll stay on WiFi at work and home and go to McDonalds when  
on the road!!!


Regards,
Eugene


On 19/06/2009, at 6:44 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

Does a tethered mac/iphone get charged as a phone call or for the  
data?

ta
Blitto



On 19/06/2009, at 1:22 AM, Peter Meyer wrote:


The other solution referred to on that page:
http://tetherme.lstoll.net/
Is very simple, selecting the file appropriate for Telstra,  
dowloading by email, clicking to install -

So easy; and it works


Sent from mouse's iPhone
peter meyer
0408902349


On Jun 18, 2009, at 21:23, Shay Telfer shaywa...@earthyself.com  
wrote:



On 18/06/2009 9:06 PM, Rob Phillips wrote:
I've just been browsing the Whirlpool forum, and it didn't help  
me - it
was full of jargon I didn't understand. I found the  
configuration file,

but I have no idea what to do with it. Does my phone need to be
jail-broken to do this?
Any advice gladly received.
Rob


Try this using the config file you downloaded and following these  
instructions:





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Re: Telstra NextG tethering does work already

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Susan,

Yes, best to wait till you know what it costs - you might lose your house
:o)

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/biz-tech/pensioner-risks-losing-home-over-
unpaid-bigpond-account-20090618-cj7k.html


Cheers


Neil


on 18/6/09 2:57 PM, Susan Hastings at susanhasti...@me.com wrote:

 Hi, I have been able to get tethering working for Telstra NextG with
 the aid of a little config file downloaded from the discussion forum
 on Whirlpool - so even if Telstra is slow off the mark, it isn't
 because it can't be done.
 
 Now, I'm not going to use it because of the expense.
 
 cheers, Susan.
 On 18/06/2009, at 1:59 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 Hi, I can't find a tethering option under my Telstra NextG settings,
 Rod has confirmed that its not yet available through Telstra.
 cheers, susan.
 On 18/06/2009, at 1:47 PM, Duncan Hardman wrote:
 
 It's under settings - general - network
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/06/2009, at 9:29 AM, Rod Kevill r.kev...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Duncan - Does the option to switch on Internet Tethering appear on
 your
 iphone?
 
 It's missing from mine - Telstra NextG...
 
 
 On 18/06/09 8:06 AM, Duncan Hardman duncan.hardman.li...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
 
 Apparently I need to contact Optus. Fingers crossed...
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/06/2009, at 8:03 AM, Rob Phillips r.phill...@murdoch.edu.au
 wrote:
 
 Does the 'tethering' work - to use it as a modem for a laptop?
 
 Rob
 
 Duncan Hardman wrote:
 Worked for me :)
 
 On 18/06/2009, at 5:55 AM, Jack/Bauer wrote:
 
 Downloading 3.0 now here I go.
 
 
 
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Re: Telstra NextG tethering does work already

[Rob Phillips]

I've just been browsing the Whirlpool forum, and it didn't help me - it 
was full of jargon I didn't understand.  I found the configuration file, 
but I have no idea what to do with it.  Does my phone need to be 
jail-broken to do this? 


Any advice gladly received.
Rob

Susan Hastings wrote:
Hi, I have been able to get tethering working for Telstra NextG with 
the aid of a little config file downloaded from the discussion forum 
on Whirlpool - so even if Telstra is slow off the mark, it isn't 
because it can't be done.


Now, I'm not going to use it because of the expense.

cheers, Susan.
On 18/06/2009, at 1:59 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

Hi, I can't find a tethering option under my Telstra NextG settings, 
Rod has confirmed that its not yet available through Telstra. cheers, 
susan.

On 18/06/2009, at 1:47 PM, Duncan Hardman wrote:


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Re: Telstra NextG tethering does work already

[Shay Telfer]

On 18/06/2009 9:06 PM, Rob Phillips wrote:

 I've just been browsing the Whirlpool forum, and it didn't help me - it
 was full of jargon I didn't understand. I found the configuration file,
 but I have no idea what to do with it. Does my phone need to be
 jail-broken to do this?
 Any advice gladly received.
 Rob


Try this using the config file you downloaded and following these instructions:

http://andrew.harrison.org/notes/3-tethering-and-mms/

Have fun,
Shay
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