Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-04-10 Thread cnd
Hey, Thanks Martin, Conspiracy Tapes making sense right now, appreciating the efforts and research. There's a techno ethos, acheivable without mixes and fixes, searching for the perfect beat. The beginning of the lockdown was kind of sinister, so the first three matched the vibe. Bit of a

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-04-07 Thread Denise Dalphond
I didn’t know people could swear so much on this list. That’s so weird to me. Hey check out these videos of me on stage talking with Detroit techno and house founders. Juan Atkins plane didn’t take off from NY or he woulda been there too.

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-04-07 Thread Edward Thompson
Agree. Everything from her is politically motivated and so so predictable. Would be good if the discussion was about Detroit music but everything has a motive and its just oh so fucking boring and played out. A perfect example of the minority screaming loudest. Back in the 90s when i started

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-28 Thread the Beauty and Belief Society
Re: Keep it real (and on topic) I've had this song stuck in my head for the past two months. Honestly, this came of topic about a year ago or so, but this is pretty much the first time I've had to respond to y'all. I work first shift, which doesn't mean anything to the hyperreal world (as your

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-28 Thread U Design
t; *Aan:* Arturo Lopez > *CC:* Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> > *Onderwerp:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic) > > Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling > and need space. > > I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me. > >

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-28 Thread Ronny Pries
; >> >> >> >> *From:* kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* 28 February 2020 03:41 >> *To:* DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> >> *Subject:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic) >> >> >> >> Would be sad to s

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-28 Thread Peter Bense
s to feel like they have no option but to unsubscribe. > > > > > > *From:* kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 28 February 2020 03:41 > *To:* DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > *Subject:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic) > > &g

RE: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-28 Thread The Archiver
To: DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: Keep it real (and on topic) Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva mailto:djsh...@gmail.com> > wrote: &qu

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-27 Thread kent williams
Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva wrote: > "She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and > it wouldn’t matter. " > > Mmmmh, sure Jan. You tell me

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe Marougi
If that’s all you took away from my reply it also tells me a lot about you. Plus that has nothing to do with what was being discussed. But congrats on nitpicking my replies till you found something “worthwhile” to reply to instead of the real topic. Not to worry tho I’ll most likely bounce

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-27 Thread DJ Shiva
"She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter. " Mmmmh, sure Jan. You tell me everything I need to know about your attitude toward gender right there. For the love of my sanity will someone unsubscribe me from this list? Lisa

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-27 Thread Joe Marougi
Appreciate the reply Jodie, I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being backhanded. Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because that’s not the point we are discussing. She

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-27 Thread mar...@dustscience.com
Hey 313, Here’s a list of mixes of things we’ve been listening to in the studio, we usually do one mix a month of stuff we like. https://soundcloud.com/the-black-dog/sets/listening-series This is a list of things we did while involved in the Conspiracy World, we had to leave due to the worries

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Mario De Block
: Arturo Lopez CC: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org> Onderwerp: Re: Keep it real (and on topic) Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling and need space. I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me. I’m not qualified to have an opinion on the D

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Mr. jp
just about to unsub, some thoughts... first subbed in '93, then off and on (due to moving/travelling) the rest of the 90s, mostly on, through the 2000s Controversy has me realizing that 313 emaiI list doesn't suit my purposes of reading the couple dozen posts per year (the larger issue), which

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
Well my man the solution is simple but I suppose our mod(s) are choosing to nurture the cancer as opposed to treat it. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:45 PM Andrew Green wrote: > Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling > and need space. > > I know Lerato and

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Green
Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling and need space. I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me. I’m not qualified to have an opinion on the Derrick / Michael thing. but it’s really bizarre and ironic that the Innovator could be catalysis for

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
Tom is my boy and a fan of my label. Wish he was still here. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:35 PM Martin wrote: > I miss Tom >

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Martin
I miss Tom

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
53 > *Aan:* Fred Heutte > *CC:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>; Lerato Khathi < > booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> > *Onderwerp:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic) > > Amen to that Fred. > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:28, Fred Heutte wrote: > > I'

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Mario De Block
Khathi Onderwerp: Re: Keep it real (and on topic) Amen to that Fred. On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:28, Fred Heutte mailto:ph...@sunlightdata.com>> wrote: I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead an

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Peter Bense
Don't go! Think of how much we will miss your complaining! Den ons 26 feb. 2020 20:58Arturo Lopez skrev: > Yea I'm out, too. Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging through > dumpster fire threads for a while now. Have fun, cheers, everybody. > -Arturo > > >

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Fred Heutte
Let me be very clear -- Kent is a good friend and has been an absolute stalwart maintaining this list since . . . a long time : ) He has bent over backwards to be fair and my point about respect applies just as much if not more to our interaction with those like Kent who take on responsibility to

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
I know...my bad for not realizing the list wasn’t cc’d on my reply which I thought it was. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:57 AM Fred Heutte wrote: > I'm not Kent. > > - > >Good job Kent, risk losing many rather than risk “offending†(or > better > >yet, removing) one. I’m

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Jeff Davis
Right. Said. Fred. thanks, Jeffrey J Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 thanks, Jeffrey J Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:28 PM Fred Heutte wrote: > > I'm also basically a lurker these days

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Arturo Lopez
Yea I'm out, too. Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging through dumpster fire threads for a while now. Have fun, cheers, everybody. -Arturo

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Amen to that Fred. On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 19:28, Fred Heutte wrote: > I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also > had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead and the > Flying/Plastic People crew in London 20 years ago -- and saw her play > at

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm also basically a lurker these days but a list member since 1994. Also had the great fortune to meet Lakuti along with Earl Gateshead and the Flying/Plastic People crew in London 20 years ago -- and saw her play at the Detroit Artist Test Lab during the festival last year. (damn, that was a

Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Benn Glazier
I’ve seen Lerato on this list for some time. Just seen on their Insta that they’ve been playing back in my old home town in Australia and doing great things (nice warm fuzzies there). And I welcome what Lerato posts - even if the emails are few and far between. I’ve only

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Denise Dalphond
Sweet Lerato. I am familiar with your work. I have no platform because most people don’t want to know about history and true stories. Check my archival collection at the Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana University. You’ll see mostly Black men’s voices. Black men from

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Lerato Khathi
crikey . classic example of how not to built community . i am writing to you as a black african queer woman denise who has put a lot into supporting and nurturing a lot of djs and artists . and i continue to work hard to support communities within the global music network young and old often from

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
Dude Kent why don’t you simply remove her? She clearly violates any sort of “code of conduct” that doesn’t need to be written down but rather seen as common sense. That, and she makes other members uncomfortable regardless if she crosses any lines or not with her constant race and gender

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Denise Dalphond
Hey guys, I owe you nothing. You don’t have to like my communication. I’ll take up as much space as I need. Most people expect women to be quiet. I’m not. You can read my writing in some published books. It’s all on my website, which is in my signature. Next up is an article on Detroit and

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
Very well said. What’s worse is the lack of remorse. Just empty “admissions of guilt” On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:42 AM Lerato Khathi < booki...@uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com> wrote: > i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a > long time therefore i feel that

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Lerato Khathi
i do not know you denise but i have been subscribed to this group for a long time therefore i feel that i am a bit qualified to make a comment . i am a lurker and posted sometimes but only occasionally yrs back . i do find though that your approach denise can be very confrontational and can often

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Denise Dalphond
Well, Kent, nobody knows who’s unsubbing except for you. So maybe it’s just your family. I wish I had money to go clubbing more often in Detroit. I wish I had a boyfriend to go clubbing with. But I’m pretty sure I never been wishin I was Black because then you have to suffer racism. I do love

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread kent williams
The Tom Cox battles were epic, but at the same time, ultimately not that great for the list. Every time there's a big emotional flare-up on 313 people unsubscribe; people I regard as essential members of the family. I'm all for people being opinionated, but it would be great if they were more

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Denise Dalphond
I miss when Tom Cox was on the list. Maybe that’s because he never yelled at me. He was more like a mentor 2 me. You can read all about it in the archives. You can read messages from Dan Sicko, too. In the 313 list archives. Denise, the woman On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joe Marougi

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread Joe Marougi
That’s fine but why can’t folks tell “certain people” to chill the f out? Is it because she’s a woman, hates being white or wishes she was black? On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:48 AM kent williams wrote: > I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund lately > and probably has

Keep it real (and on topic)

2020-02-26 Thread kent williams
I generally just let the 313 list be. Frankly it's been moribund lately and probably has more subscribers outside of Detroit than inside; the flavor is completely different than it was 20 years ago. And even typing "20 years ago" about a mailing list feels weird. I don't know what to think about