Re: [AFMUG] Antennas Behind Wood or Glass in Old Building?

Have you discussed potential exterior camouflage enclosures? There is also the option if the siding is not a material part of the antiquity and you are skilled with a hand plane to frame out a section of the wood and hand plane until it is very thin and then fill the void with an rf transparent

Re: [AFMUG] Antennas Behind Wood or Glass in Old Building?

Chuck, How far back should an antenna be from an obstruction (if the obstruction is mandatory and space is limited)? I found a nice paper with information about empirical RF loss testing through various materials. The main drawback is the tests are for 0.5-2 GHz and 3-8 GHz (skipping 2-3 GHz).

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

Deny deny deny On Mar 14, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Mea culpa > On Mar 14, 2016 6:34 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > >> I don't believe anything any of them say. The only time they tell the >> truth is when it benefits them. Like

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

According to Politico Trump lies every five minutes in his speeches. Funny but not Ha Ha On Mar 14, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Mea culpa > On Mar 14, 2016 6:34 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > >> I don't believe anything any of them

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

That’s a good point. I am actually waiting for some feedback from Cambium on their 90 / 120 degree. I am assuming its 3 dBi rolloff at 90 and dBi at 120 and not anything mechanical or two different models. If it is infact 6 at 120 then I am planning to talk to KP. Best regards, Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

You can ask Shane - sh...@kpperformance.ca . He should be able to tell you which brackets are shipping on something. -Ty On Mar 14, 2016 7:59 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz" wrote: > That’s what I have done as well in the past. I have been avoiding buying > any more of them

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

That’s what I have done as well in the past. I have been avoiding buying any more of them because they are such a pain to get into after they are mounted. The cambium one is actually quite nice an allen wrench and that’s all it takes to swap but they are not available in as many different

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

FYI, UBNT dishes will not fit on a 3.5" pipe. They will fit on a 3" pipe (except the new 620 fine adjustment kit...it will fit by changing out the carriage bolts). On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have not checked out the commscope unit. > > This has a

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

I have not checked out the commscope unit. This has a large pipe 3.5” I think 24” long, will fit any pole over 10” dia. Very heavy duty. We could do you a one off in about 30 days. Not fully into production yet. MSRP is roughly $200 with you supplying the chain. From: Peter Kranz Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

Hi Chuck, How long until this is in distribution? If it’s not available for 30 days, have you checked out that CommScope unit? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

[AFMUG] ExoMars Phones Home En Route to Red Planet: 'We Have a Mission'

http://www.space.com/32268-exomars-2016-mission-headed-to-mars.html

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

Mea culpa On Mar 14, 2016 6:34 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > I don't believe anything any of them say. The only time they tell the > truth is when it benefits them. Like when someone else does something bad, > even if they themselves have done it before. > > On Mon, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

I don't believe anything any of them say. The only time they tell the truth is when it benefits them. Like when someone else does something bad, even if they themselves have done it before. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016, 10:52 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > not so, I don't like his

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

And it sounds like you need two of these, correct? On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > Its $145 on Tessco, pipe is 1.9” OD by 25.0” in length. > > > > > *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile:

[AFMUG] EV SSL

Extended validation (green bar with company name) SSL certificates are now $99/year. That's a lot less than the $299-350/year they used to cost. If you're accepting credit cards directly online, are you changing to an EV SSL cert? If not, why? https://www.ssls.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

Its $145 on Tessco, pipe is 1.9” OD by 25.0” in length. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

Maybe you should first state the price available to your of the item you are referencing, along with any additional requirements. All you showed was a picture of something GSA catalog related - which means it normally costs a bazillion dollars :) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Peter Kranz

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

I'd be leery of mounting a 2' dish on anything smaller than a 2" pipe. That looks like a 1" pipe. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > Less pipe, a lot more expensive if I need to buy 2 of them and 1 longer > connecting pipe designed for it... > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

Less pipe, a lot more expensive if I need to buy 2 of them and 1 longer connecting pipe designed for it... Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

http://www.mccowntech.com/chain-mount/ On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > Need to mount a 24” dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone > used these things? The right way to go? It’s a heavy wind area.. Kinda > looks like you just throw

[AFMUG] Telephone pole mount.. Dish / Sector..

Need to mount a 24" dish and a sector antenna to a telephone pole.. Anyone used these things? The right way to go? It's a heavy wind area.. Kinda looks like you just throw some lag bolts in and you are good to go. https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=367000 Peter

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

Someone else will have to comment on that. I found the best solution was to remove the two side bolts and leave the bracket mounted to the pole. Then loosen the two on top and swivel the sector up to remove the cover. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Brandon Yuchasz

[AFMUG] WISPA Pub Crawl

Go to either Howl at the Moon or Birracibo. The sports pub is crammed. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

Without taking this one to far off track. Did they upgrade all the antennas brackets or if we buy one of the epmp5hz are we going to still not be able to open the cases when mounted on a tower? Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Man Pull, Washington: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman,_Washington On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > http://gothamgreens.com/our-farms/pullman > http://farmedhere.com/ > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

http://gothamgreens.com/our-farms/pullman http://farmedhere.com/ From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI When I was a teenager, I tried my hand at hydroponics. I'd be rich by now if my folks hadn't been all uppity about

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

When I was a teenager, I tried my hand at hydroponics. I'd be rich by now if my folks hadn't been all uppity about felony drug manufacturing. On Mar 14, 2016 5:28 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Hydroponics was another of his ventures > On Mar 14, 2016 4:02 PM, "Lewis

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

His mum has a PhD and worked at Bell Labs among other places. So lots of brains in that family. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:26 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI Yes agree on brains part... his mum was the $$ person in his family according to someone

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Hydroponics was another of his ventures On Mar 14, 2016 4:02 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > The story I heard is Charles always portrayed himself as an/the owner but > never was. That was from someone at CTI. He was a bright guy no matter what > else was the deal. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Yes agree on brains part... his mum was the $$ person in his family according to someone who knew him well. On Mar 14, 2016 4:02 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > The story I heard is Charles always portrayed himself as an/the owner but > never was. That was from

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

Ah yes. The double bind. The classic one is "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?". http://www.kevinfitzmaurice.com/free-stuff/communication-skills/how-to-handle-double-bind-questions/ bp On 3/14/2016 1:37 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I followed the link to that

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

The story I heard is Charles always portrayed himself as an/the owner but never was. That was from someone at CTI. He was a bright guy no matter what else was the deal. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:57 PM wrote: > Pretty sure he was originally. But there have been plenty of

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Pretty sure he was originally. But there have been plenty of changes since then. I am sure someone will have an authoritative answer. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI I thought Charles Wu was the owner or main owner. Only

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

I thought Charles Wu was the owner or main owner. Only met him once in Chicago at WISP-NOG back in the Pioneer days and WISPA was just starting up. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Thought he was the man > On Mar 14, 2016 2:58 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Ha. Too be young. I remember BreezeComs Bruce Sanguenetti throwing a radio on the ground and kicking it a training course ...and it still worked. He used that ploy in sales calls as well. On Mar 14, 2016 3:26 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > If I was single I would Ninja

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

We would have but it would’ve turned into a 5 day test (match). Who has time for that. :) On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: Now do this with a Cricket bat for your overseas market in ZA, IN, PK, BD, NZ, AU, UK... :-) On

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Now do this with a Cricket bat for your overseas market in ZA, IN, PK, BD, NZ, AU, UK... :-) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Give me a couple 650 and a bat. I'll show you. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 >

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

If I was single I would Ninja the Shit(tm) out of that. JAV girls though... muy caliente. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Hey Josh they are looking to hire 6 full time Ninjas for tourist shows in > Aichi Japan.. it's in Newsweek

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Hey Josh they are looking to hire 6 full time Ninjas for tourist shows in Aichi Japan.. it's in Newsweek

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Tough crowd Alex On Mar 14, 2016 2:25 PM, "Alex Marcham" wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We just did some unorthodox reliability testing with the PTP 650: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZJcoNHmgE0 > > > > The radio works fine but my bat has seen better days.

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Is cambium issuing a challenge here? it sure seems like a challenge On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > Let’s drop some from a tower. Various heights. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 3:12 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Thermate! :) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > Let’s drop some from a tower. Various heights. > > From: Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:12 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650 > > > Give me a couple 650 and a bat. I'll

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Let’s drop some from a tower. Various heights. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650 Give me a couple 650 and a bat. I'll show you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Give me a couple 650 and a bat. I'll show you. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 14, 2016 4:25 PM, "Alex Marcham" wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We just did some unorthodox reliability testing with

Re: [AFMUG] OT - How a Horn antenna changed our view of the universe

ET phone home...cool On Mar 14, 2016 2:51 PM, "Hardy, Tim" wrote: > Political overload today – thought you might enjoy this! > > > > > > > http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2013/09/16/how_the_holmdel_horn_antenna_in_new_jersey_changed_our_understanding_of.html > > >

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Thought he was the man On Mar 14, 2016 2:58 PM, wrote: > Not directly if at all. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CTI > > > Is Charles Wu still involved?

Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin

Thanks for sharing. That takes balls. My sister now 47 looks 65 and she started my daughter on it.. my sister says she is wants to kick but never takes steps to do it. My daughter did and we are thankful... it drained my savings accounts rehab is expensive I lost allot of equipment to

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Not directly if at all. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI Is Charles Wu still involved? On Mar 14, 2016 2:46 PM, wrote: Not approved by SAF seemed to sell more at one point in time. That was a funny

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Is Charles Wu still involved? On Mar 14, 2016 2:46 PM, wrote: > Not approved by SAF seemed to sell more at one point in time. > That was a funny fiasco. > > *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 2:41 PM > *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

Not approved by SAF seemed to sell more at one point in time. That was a funny fiasco. From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI I thought you would hope he would end up owning SAF! Then everything you make could be

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

hah :) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:40 PM, wrote: > I hope ends up owning the joint. Nothing against the current owners, but > someday when they get tired > > From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:39 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

I thought you would hope he would end up owning SAF! Then everything you make could be SAF approved! On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:40 PM, wrote: > I hope ends up owning the joint. Nothing against the current owners, but > someday when they get tired > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

I hope ends up owning the joint. Nothing against the current owners, but someday when they get tired From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTI How many months do you think he'll stay there? On Mon, Mar 14, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT heroin

Sixteen years ago I did my last hit of Meth. I was addicted for 3 years and saw and did some shit that could only be in the movies. I left California and came home to NM and cleaned up. Thankfully I have a family that was loving and caring to nurse me back to health. ( I weighed 135lbs, now I am

Re: [AFMUG] CTI

How many months do you think he'll stay there? On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, wrote: > Daniel White is now is now Vice President of Sales at Convergence > Technologies. > Congrats Daniel! >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

I followed the link to that Youtube video of Cambium hitting a radio with a baseball bat, and Youtube suggested this video to me. It is a brilliant explanation of the techniques Trump uses to be a master persuader. Worth watching no matter what you think of Trump as a presidential candidate:

[AFMUG] CTI

Daniel White is now is now Vice President of Sales at Convergence Technologies. Congrats Daniel!

Re: [AFMUG] this list

I knew that... ~blush~ On 03/14/2016 12:53 PM, Chris Wright wrote: For the sake of argument, it’s “hear hear.” :] Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Robertson *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

Love to see a catch as can match...problem is Donald thinks WWE wrestling is real and Putin is trained in several arts. Still I would pay to watch... On Mar 14, 2016 2:16 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Yea. If he does somehow become president I wish as much success

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

Kosovo > On Mar 13, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I don’t think the guy ever got the ring back. > > One thing that really bugs me about Obama is that he had a really good chance > to support the Syrian rebels at the start of that mess (along with the whole >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Ha.. gay ones...yep we had our share of problems with pedophile prieststhey need to be punished and kicked out... On Mar 14, 2016 2:20 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > It was also accepted (as it probably is in much of the world) that the > church was involved in politics. As was

[AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

Hi All, We just did some unorthodox reliability testing with the PTP 650: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZJcoNHmgE0 The radio works fine but my bat has seen better days. Anyone given a radio a worse beating? Thanks, Alex Marcham Engineering

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

It was also accepted (as it probably is in much of the world) that the church was involved in politics. As was the military and the university. Just like families aspired to have one son (I assume the gay one) enter the priesthood, one the military, and one go to the university and become a

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Which Juan? bp On 3/14/2016 1:00 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: So I would call you Juan 2 3 Or Number Juan On Mar 14, 2016 1:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" > wrote: But there should be a big gap between “what I believe” and “what

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

Yea. If he does somehow become president I wish as much success playing Putin as he has had with the media. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:01 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > "officials" > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Jaime Solorza >

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

I complained about the addition of the cable glands because of the way it was implemented. The glands are part of the removable part of the box, not the stationary part. As a result to remove that cover on the box you had to loosen the cable glands, push enough slack through to allot you to swivel

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Hah On Mar 14, 2016 3:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > So I would call you Juan 2 3 > Or Number Juan > On Mar 14, 2016 1:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > >> But there should be a big gap between “what I believe” and “what the >> government should enforce

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

So I would call you Juan 2 3 Or Number Juan On Mar 14, 2016 1:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > But there should be a big gap between “what I believe” and “what the > government should enforce on everyone else”. There are many things other > people do that I don’t like, but would

Re: [AFMUG] this list

Ha. Good one On Mar 14, 2016 1:57 PM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > Oh, now you’re an audiologist ? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright > *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 3:53 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] this list > > > > For

Re: [AFMUG] this list

Oh, now you’re an audiologist ? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] this list For the sake of argument, it’s “hear hear.” :] Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] this list

For the sake of argument, it’s “hear hear.” :] Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Robertson Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] this list Here here! On

Re: [AFMUG] this list

Here here! On 03/14/2016 11:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: One thing I love about this list, is the diversity of opinion and the ability to discuss religion and politics without any major flame wars. We can spar but when it gets too serous we back off for the most part. I think most of us

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

*clap* *clap* *clap* On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > But there should be a big gap between “what I believe” and “what the > government should enforce on everyone else”. There are many things other > people do that I don’t like, but would not want the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And it just gets funnier by the minute.....Trump takes a step toward supporting violence by supporters, says he may pay legal fees - LA Times

So Chicago officials are claiming law enforcement never discussed decision to cancel event at college of Friday and worse that Trumps campaign knew damn well that this part of town is diverse, Democratic and has not voted Republican since Teddy Roosevelt. Damn nice stuntif true...he could have

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Belief sounds like a religiony thing... ;-) -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan The ones that do not believe immunizations are good for their children are making decisions based on belief

Re: [AFMUG] this list

I have to say, I haven’t hit the DELETE key this much and this fast in months ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] this list One thing I love about this list, is the diversity of opinion and

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

The ones that do not believe immunizations are good for their children are making decisions based on belief and not recurring evidence. They have every right to make that decision. They are also not MADE to be immunized in most situations, although many schools and school districts will require

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Forgot one important one: http://www.alternet.org/story/156007/do_people_get_less_religious_when_societies_grow_more_egalitarian?page=entire On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > Law is based on religion. The decalogue. > Legislation is based on law. > You will never be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Vivint Solar

Vivint or the Solar division of Vivint? I don't think either needs this deal to survive. I think there was debt involved in the purchase agreement from what I read. But nothing Blackstone can't handle, I'm sure. Vivint non-solar could probably care less. They seem very distinctly to be

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Funny thing is, if you compare most of the world's religions, they agree on maybe 80% or more of everything. The problem is, we get hung up on that pesky 20% (or whatever it is). bp On 3/14/2016 12:03 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not all religions ... but some do.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Law is based on religion. The decalogue. Legislation is based on law. You will never be able to get free from religion. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan Religious based legislation is any

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

I used condoms in my glory days and my second girlfriend was on the pillI don't believe in the abstinence because people are ruled by passion of moment and not reason...and the monthly cycle method is hit and miss. I might fall into what many call cafeteria Catholicism...Yes according to our

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Religious based legislation is any legislation based on religious texts that impacts large bodies of people who are not given a choice. Science based decision makings are those where theories have been brought together, tested, tested again, hopefully tested again, and then a reasonable

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Yes, the quote is from Neil DeGrasse Tyson. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > he didn't Neil Tyson DeGrasse say that on comedy central or somewhere? > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:49

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Pi Day

Same thing here... and not impressive at all. :-) OTOH it turns out my wife can recite more digits than I can. Of course, she's a math professor... On 03/14/2016 10:34 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: When I was a kid, my dad taught me PI was 22/7 as a fact. I later discovered not exactly...

Re: [AFMUG] KP 3.65/5 Ghz Sectors

If you have used KP antennas before they have made some marked improvements over their old hardware designs. The bracket is stronger, but also sticks out much further, removing the need to disconnect the sector to get the rear cover off. If you are not using UBNT or EPMP, then the cover never

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

If I had to make the rules, I would probably say 6 weeks after conception for compassion even though I would not be comfortable with a wife or daughter electing that, at all but if she felt the need hopefully before the 3-4 week mark. Based on absolutely nothing other than my observations of

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

yes...we have an observatory checking out the skies and a Vatican article came out recently which says if Aliens exist they should be treated as brothers as creations of God. Now that is a big step considering we condemned many for their discoveries which went against the then churches

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Then I move... if you will allow me to. Otherwise I am in a minor holocaust. How do you identify religious based legislation? If I think your worship of climate change (which I actually believe in) is a religion of secular humanism, then to me that is religious based legislation. In other

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

I have 3 kids. 2 are my own, another is my step son. My mother wanted to abort me when I was born but my father took off on icy roads in a car with no insurance and prevented it. My wife had an abortion, and that caused her to miscarry another later down the road. She is a very strong woman, and

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan

Hypothetical: I'm going to pose Shari Law on you, and you can't avoid it. Now tell me why it's okay to support religious based legislation with a straight face. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > Take belief and religion out. > > By YOU supporting legislation that

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Not all religions ... but some do. Slowly. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Paul Ryan That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when presented new data. Religion can't do that. bp

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+1. On 03/14/2016 12:01 PM, Bill Prince wrote: That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when presented new data. Religion can't do that. bp On 3/14/2016 11:54 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Funny, my religion only believes in one single thing:

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/I would give a woman a mulligan for the first few weeks. / To clarify my previous post, me too. I am NOT in the camp that thinks abortion is okay at any time during the term of the pregnancy. On 03/14/2016 11:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am not in that category. I doubt most Catholics

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That's the beauty of science. It's willing to change its mind when presented new data. Religion can't do that. bp On 3/14/2016 11:54 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Funny, my religion only believes in one single thing: “The Truth” Science is constantly changing. Now

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Yep. In fact there is a T-shirt to that effect. He may have been quoting someone else though. https://funnytimes.com/gift-items/tshirts/good-thing-t-shirt/ bp On 3/14/2016 11:53 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: he didn't Neil Tyson DeGrasse say that on comedy central

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I am not in that category. I doubt most Catholics are either if you get them to level with you. Contraception is 100% OK with me. I don't think a Catholic business should be forced to provide them to their employees. But again, when rules/dogma come from the wizened masters that claim to

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Exactly. I have no problem with outlawing abortion, /as long as/ inexpensive and effective birth control and education is widely available, and preferably we have some sort of morning after pill (because no form of birth control is 100% effective), and with the usual proposed exceptions for

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Funny, my religion only believes in one single thing: “The Truth” Science is constantly changing. Now you are supposed to feed your little babies peanuts, eggs, cows milk etc. Now we discover we were actually harming our kids by doing so. Science. True until it isn’t. But I do believe

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he didn't Neil Tyson DeGrasse say that on comedy central or somewhere? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Jeremy wrote: > Science is true whether or not you believe in it. > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:34 PM,

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