Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team

2011-12-06 Thread cbrianwatkins
The team is OFFICIALLY a CNJ Group 1 dynasty I didn't miss a home game this year, got to 1 away game. I have watched their games since they won the first one with Coach Don, and I didn't think this years team would do it, but man did they look crisp against a good Florence team Sent from my

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves

2011-06-10 Thread cbrianwatkins
You basically hit the nail on the head The parenting in our city (or lack thereof) I truly believe is the root cause of many many social problems in AP, from education in schools to crime and everything in between Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Hin

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves

2011-06-10 Thread cbrianwatkins
One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday

2008-11-25 Thread Jersey Shore John
They do all the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, justifiedright wrote: > Yes - Christmas Trees. > > You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized > federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture > take part fu

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday

2008-11-25 Thread Jersey Shore John
And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: > But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just > because they like them? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets

2008-09-03 Thread lightgrw
I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar) eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good 5 hours longer th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets

2008-08-31 Thread nnjallans1
kets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 > To: > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbur

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets

2008-08-31 Thread nnjallans1
31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets

2008-08-31 Thread lightgrw
Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas w

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE

2008-07-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. Coincidentally, I ran into two out-of-town friends around 6 tonight. The were on Sunset, headed to the boardwalk. When I mentioned the crods

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE

2008-07-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. SOH are S.O.P. even at Collingwood Flea Market. **Get t

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-22 Thread charlie
"I'll go out on a limb here - the STUPIDEST thing MM can do is to NOT put the (a) carousel back in the Casino." I hope they do put it back. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-21 Thread charlie
These are just thoughts, i have no idea if they're true. Maybe the freehold mall has their double decker carousel becasue they can afford it? Does the Freehold Mall bring in a large profit? From the area, and the percentage of high end stores, i'm guesing yes. It may have been an attrac

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-21 Thread charlie
"I have the feeling MM is not planning to cater to a boardwalk filled with children. When they first showed their plans in City Council there was nothing for children except a candy store with walls of candy. They did not mention the water park that was proposed in the app. MM in my opinion is

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-21 Thread charlie
"You need a reason, other then for a sit down $30 pp affair. Not that people won't come for that buttake a look at a carnival trailer midway with cotton candy, popcorn and soda. Bring me the $. That and a ride like a carousel next to it." I see your point about the Freehold Mall.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-21 Thread charlie
I'd like to see a carousel in the Corousel House again, but i don't think its possable at this point. Look at the direction the boardwalk is going in I don't think it would fit in with the stuff planned for the boardwalk. Times can change though, who knows! I doubt it though...

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards

2008-02-21 Thread charlie
"I predict that the Casino Carousel House will be turned into a food court...a replica (wink,wink) of the one at Monmouth Mall. (Hey isn't that one supposed to be an interpretation of the 'Real' Casino Carousel House right here in AP ???)" I think the boardwalk idea at Monmouth mall was ba

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn...

2008-01-19 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/18/2008 8:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Starting to smarten up and know it's probably not us if AP is not part of the link > You make one group the repository of your bad feelings. Its not you its them. Readers feel bet

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn...

2008-01-19 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/19/2008 8:29:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "FleurDeLis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These so-called "parents", should have sought help, for themselves! > The vicious cycle of adults, using drugs in front of kids, is the height of irresponsibil

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn...

2008-01-18 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/18/2008 4:20:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, it's ridiculous. This literally could have happened anywhere, and if it did happen in another town the headline would have simply read "Couple jailed, accused of having drugs, porn around childr

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-11 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:13:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My response to Joey Vento - Stronzata! Add to the list of Disgraziato: Angelo Mozilo, son of a Bronx butcher, CEO of Countrywide, who has a half billion exit package, leaving behind livid stockholder

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-11 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/11/2008 11:04:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not heard Italian spoken in my family in 20+ years. I miss it so much that I just began taking lessons in Manhattan one night a week. It's much tougher when you are older. I miss it too. My hi

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-10 Thread Mike Hemeon
I was raised in an Italian immigrant neighborhood in Boston and I don't remember anyone telling me I had to learn Italian. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2008 12:06:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of a few Italian people

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park cop loses gun

2008-01-10 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/10/2008 12:06:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of a few Italian people who struggle with English. I'd like to hear somebody tell them English only. My father came here after WW I and spoke badly broken English until he died at age 90,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Jam

2007-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 11/8/2007 7:54:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, Are you suggesting a Jam with salt water taffy in it? Just about anything is possible from a manufacturing standpoint.. any Well, you did a nice job with that grape seed basting oil - yo

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park zoners vote against christianity and for hom...

2007-10-17 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 10/17/2007 11:33:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this Mario blout should have not brought up the dead story long buried. To my postings about constitutional law, RLUIPA, threats of litigation, and JSRM, I was asked about my sex life. I resp

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park - The focus of this group

2007-09-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/14/2007 3:04:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is 'Asbury related" should stretch pretty far though. For instance Dan the Man and Oak post a great deal about real estate happenings in other parts of the country. I look forward to those;

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park - The focus of this group

2007-09-14 Thread Gary Wien
I think the problem is that the war and religion are very sensitive issues to people and our country has really become much more divided about things than at any time in recent memory. On Sep 14, 2007, at 1:43 PM, nobepeymay wrote: I agree..in my opinion even if the threads are 75% AP

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park - The focus of this group

2007-09-14 Thread MarioAPNJ
Re: too many non AP issues it may lose its influence. As long as there is room for the occasional exception -- like your and Allan's recommendation for the grapeseed oil at Wegmans. I always wondered what its advantage was was until I learned here about the smoke point etc

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park.

2007-09-13 Thread Gary Wien
It's falling apart, but it's also a way of cutting losses early on rather than have abandoned structures. This is also a warning to Asbury about having so many different condo villages spring up at the same time during a bad market. Yet again a reason for Asbury to not get rid of business

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park. Topic Shopping.

2007-09-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/13/2007 10:18:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of shopping, do any of my fellow dog lovers ever buy pet food at The Yellow Door shop on Main. I recently discovered it, and between that and BC Woof in Manasquan you'll never find me

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park

2007-09-11 Thread Gary Wien
Hope to see ya there Tommy! Some of the artists that will be covering Bruce Springsteen include: Janey Todd, Jon Caspi, Keith Monacchio, James Dalton, Hesh, DC Fisher, George Wirth, Pat Roddy, Michael Brett, Mike June, Maybe Pete, Cook and Danny White. I think you'll be very impressed with

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park

2007-09-11 Thread Gary Wien
If anyone sees him please tell him he's always welcome to stop by the Twisted Tree on Sunday. (who knows, he did show up at a tribute to him in NYC) On Sep 11, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Hinge wrote: Speaking of Bruce, isn't he slated to be rehearsing at Convention Hall this evening? --- In Asbu

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ASBURY PARK FAILED THE PEDDLER!

2007-09-05 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 9/5/2007 1:45:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a very sucessful word-of mouth business, simply because of who I am, and how I conduct myself. Yes, 10% of my customers go out tounge lashed, never to return. I wouldn't have it any other wa

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-08-01 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 8/1/2007 9:48:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: may I suggest some crowded beach/bdwlk shots from the 1940's? Whoever runs this site _http://www.savetillie.com/_ (http://www.savetillie.com/) knows how cool Asbury Park is getting to be again.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-08-01 Thread Allan Peterson
The difference here is that someone did something instead of just posting complaints on the Asbury bitch and moan board. - Original Message From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:41:19 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Ima

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread MarioAPNJ
Chris, Madison Market had a great pic of the paramount restoration, with the interior scaffolding still in place. Mostly gold tones. It was at their site or on a press release. Can't find it anymore, but I think I did send it to Werner. In a message dated 7/31/2007 10:21:14 AM Ea

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/31/2007 10:21:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hardly a high school kid. I read the message on this board and replaced 2 pictures with current versions. Later this week, I will take some pictures to replace the others. I have some from the win

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/30/2007 5:52:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You see, when she makes the changes, it is likely that her changes will be immediately deleted. Then she will be contacted by the 10th grader in charge, demanding to know her credibility on the iss

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/30/2007 5:40:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anne Frank was 13 when she started writing her diary. Want to >question her > letters? Ann Frank's diary was written at the time of

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
Anne Frank was 13 when she started writing her diary. Want to question her letters? Both the cited letter I provided and the legend are included in the wiki entry on Max. It was amended based on new info. Unlike any of your mistakes: (Using the legend as analogous proof of a godless

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: But almost every AG (attorney general) across the country has contacted me and has provdided content. did you ever read all the studies about all the scholl books that are wrong See also Excerpt from NYT magazine a few weeks ago:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/30/2007 3:02:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > BTW: Way back when, when I objected to a legend about the fighter >Max in > Hitler's Germany, I submitted the additional info from the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/30/2007 1:05:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It also is usually at the top of search results for virtually everything when using google Google's algorithm (sp?) Power of the "marketplace." On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
See Statement of Principles: _Click here: User:Jimbo Wales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales) Jimbo ends his page with "Many Wikipedians watch over my user page and will edit mercilessly or even remove altogether any bad faith

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
Dan wrote: and was recently cited by a NYS Supreme Court judge in a decision. Yes it was. Many of the criticisms mentioned here deal with issues that have been ironed out. Last week's NYT reported that Wiki media is now giving Google a run for its money. IP addresses of people w

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread Gary Wien
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:34 PM, justifiedright wrote: Accordingly, the people who use it most are the ones who have time - high school and college kids. Unfortunately, it is also used quite often by journalists.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread Allan Peterson
The city can't ever maintain their own website. Visitors will only find dead links for Special Events, Places of Interest, Beech Cam, Downtown Cam and so much more. Poor source of information for people interested in Asbury Park. - Original Message From: 2fine4u <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-30 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 7/30/2007 8:21:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the photos, definitely should be replaced! ... I think the Council, should place their own comments, don't you? The piece doesn't do Asbury enough justice, === Any

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
Feb 20 I posted this: "I wonder who made the demand. I think the city holds more responsibility in this. Partners brought a business to the boardwalk. If the city demamded him to close that is not the responsibility of partners. The counsilman should not be annoyed that there is a bike shop

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
Love how you place your twist on things. I did not place full blame on this guy. Would be impossible for me to do so since I do not know the entire story. I was not there for these conversations and people directly involved have not responded here either. So if you want, you can listen to on

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-26 Thread Allan Peterson
While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not expect the city to suggest where you open. - Original Message From: asburyparkpedaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:48:29 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bi

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-20 Thread Allan Peterson
That is a good point. He did take a gamble knowing that that ordinance was on the books - Original Message From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:33:54 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting --- I

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-20 Thread Allan Peterson
I wonder who made the demand. I think the city holds more responsibility in this. Partners brought a business to the boardwalk. If the city demamded him to close that is not the responsibility of partners. The counsilman should not be annoyed that there is a bike shop on the boradwalk but th

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting

2007-02-19 Thread Allan Peterson
Who made this demand? - Original Message From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:43:32 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-25 Thread Allan Peterson
Ture.    It is funny how it is believed that low income housing should be place along the ocean.  Also, the complaints that the town is being taken away from the poor.  Seems to me that Asbury is returing back to the original.  Where the mid to upper class stayed.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park from a newcomers perspective

2006-07-25 Thread bjc223
  Overall observation from a realist   It is not just 'rich' people who are driving people out of Asbury and it has nothing to do with race, but it is how a true 'free market' works.  It happens to elderly and middle class families too, but guess what - they have to move and have little

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park: "Haves and Have-Nots by the Sea "

2006-07-10 Thread Allen McDaniel
HERE HERE!! -a --- oakdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can things be equalized ? > > Begin some more serius attempts to rebuild the West > side and incorporate "equal" housing on > the east side > > Article last week about how long branch"took" $2m in > COAH credits from Colts Neck (

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Homeless Shelter

2006-06-12 Thread Allan Peterson
Hmmm   Asking if Asbury radio is covering the storry is a knock?   I guess then I also knoced the Asbury Park Press.   So you can add both to your list of knocks.  dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson ...> wrote:>> I send my congrats to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Readies For Busy Summer Season

2005-05-29 Thread Lighty
> "I am sure I was not the only one who left feeling > what > was 'fixed' looked cheap, tacky, and temporary." > > cheap, yes. tacky, possiably. temporary, of course. They could have brought in businesses that would have fixed up the pavillions instead of leaving them as is. There's no reason

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Readies For Busy Summer Season

2005-05-29 Thread charlie leonard
"It is in total contrast to Cookman. You walk away from a stroll down cookman with 'wow, they are really taking this seriously!'. The BW leaves me shaking my head and saying to myself 'They must be joking!" your right, there is a difference between the boardwalk and cookman ave. but keep in mind,

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Readies For Busy Summer Season

2005-05-28 Thread Art Vanderlay
John, Very interesting. What happened to the group that wanted to make sure the Casino was preserved? -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Tedesco Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 7:02 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Readies For Busy Summer Season

2005-05-28 Thread Lighty
> there is no mention of it on the sign on main, and i didnt see > anything in the loacal papers about it. This seems to be the norm > for city sponsored (im not sure that who is sponsoring it) events > down on the waterfront. I think a little more attention to PR and > marketing for these types o

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread Tyler, Mark
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury park - fishman Like I said it was hard to put the tax package together based on the messy stuff i was working with (so I may be wrong).  I thought the figures in your e-mail were from the tables in the presentation and were simply estimates of what would

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread Tyler, Mark
PMTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman I can understand the tax abatement however; maybe my view is lacking information.  The city offered the abatement so the developer would have an incentive to fill the units.  Up until recently, wasn't t

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread charlie leonard
i dont know if im sopose to say anything to that, beasue it didnt make much sence.  your right, i did ask you to give a list of the things you claimed i didnt agree with.  you gave a good list, but i never said anywhere that i didnt agree with what you were saying.  why would i have been a memb

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread muffolettom
You asked me to do it Chuckie. So don't ask for it if you don't want it. Get it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo!

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread Allan Peterson
I can understand the tax abatement however; maybe my view is lacking information.  The city offered the abatement so the developer would have an incentive to fill the units.  Up until recently, wasn’t the city receiving none or reduced taxes on this property?  With all these units going into a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-07 Thread muffolettom
Okay, sorry if i made a mistake about your beliefs. And for the record - i think i like the C-8 design too. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
muff - thats pretty much the kind of things i thought youd say.  what were you saying about me, making the same comments for the last 4 years or so?  i dont really remember talking about any of the things you said.  i also always said, im not on either side, but i can understand how both sides

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread muffolettom
That some 20 developers tried to get into Asbury and only corruption kept them out. That Terry Weldon is a crook and he orchestrated the sale of the tax liens to one entity - Sass/Fishman. That people work to preserve buildings because ordinary developers always build something worse. That t

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
muff - what?  what facts dont i see? Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Your us

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread charlie leonard
thats true, but the city made the deals they did.  they know what they have to work with.  and they seem fine with it. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: asbury park - fishman

2005-01-06 Thread muffolettom
Dan: Charlie has made those same arguments for 4 years. They've been refuted a thousand times. JerseyJohn did an accounting of all the developers that have tried to get in here. It's quite a number. Unfortunately despite all the facts that make those same arguments untenable, Charlie and t