The point is not whether there is a differencee between the dacs , but
whether you like any of the DACS. My take on the TP's dac is that it is
analytical and not that much better than the Sb's ... I dont enjoy
listening to it..your mileage may vary.
I recon both units are best used as high end
Eric Carroll;410852 Wrote:
Priceless reply.
But I don't think anyone answered your actual question.
You should expect XLR outputs to be +6 dB above RCA connections. In
addition, but more variably, -nominal- line level between RCA
(consumer) and XLR balanced (professional) can vary up
El Duderino;409346 Wrote:
I was simply asking if using the XLR outputs influences the volume.
Priceless reply.
But I don't think anyone answered your actual question.
You should expect XLR outputs to be +6 dB above RCA connections. In
addition, but more variably, -nominal- line level
El Duderino;409594 Wrote:
I do feel that they are revealing enough that one would expect to see
some sort of an improvement between the Transporter vs. SB3. On the
other hand, perhaps, it does take $5000 speakers to hear a
difference...
You might find this thread interesting:
opaqueice;410853 Wrote:
You might find this thread interesting:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35068
Wow! I really didn't know that this discussion has been going on for
that long! But I'm curios now. I would love to redo a similar test and
find out if I could hear a
El Duderino;409630 Wrote:
I did find that the SB3 was somewhat fatiguing to listen to due to
unrefined/harsh highs. That seems to have resolved with the
Transporter.
That's a good point and something that's maybe not that obvious when
listening to short samples and switching between
musicexpression;410102 Wrote:
since VFDs are inherently noisy devices that potentially enter into the
audio path, why didn't SD look into the newer OLED devices???
but looks like the 802.11b/g pci card can be swapped to a draft N
version...
But if you're really worried about noise,
boxerboy;409662 Wrote:
El Duderino:
I am going to share with you the way that I audition equipment. You are
cerainly free to use other selections that you may find more in tune
with your tastes...
I've acquired a few of the albums you suggested. First impressions
below in direct
El Duderino;409346 Wrote:
Your ears are connected to your brain...really?
With all due respect, yes -really-*. I'm pretty sure the ears are
connected to the stomach as well, because music sounds better with red
wine in there (YMMV).
* 'Auditory nerve fibres provide synaptic connections
Skunk;410660 Wrote:
With all due respect, yes -really-*. I'm pretty sure the ears are
connected to the stomach as well, because music sounds better with red
wine in there (YMMV).
* 'Auditory nerve fibres provide synaptic connections between the hair
cells of the cochlea and the cochlear
sidetrack a bit, but does anyone ever open up the TP and peek into its
internals and see what sort of components used? silver wiring/solder,
cerafine caps, precision resistors, etc? ;p
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musicexpression
musicexpression's
musicexpression;409951 Wrote:
but does anyone ever open up the TP and peek into its internals and see
what sort of components used?
Photos here:
http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618_nnKTm/1
--
Mark Lanctot
Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta)
Stored: Boom
Mark Lanctot;410004 Wrote:
Photos here:
http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618_nnKTm/1
thanks for the eye-opening peektures almost 50% of the internals
contains the all-important air :)
since VFDs are inherently noisy devices that potentially enter into the
audio path, why didn't SD
You can't trust your ears. Maybe not for volume balancing but once you
did that, your ears are the only thing you can trust. If they sound
no different to you then why spend the money on the transformer. I'm
sure it's great and with the proper system is worth every penny. But
in your case I
El Duderino wrote:
iPhone;409297 Wrote:
If you are going to use FLAC or some other lossless format and can
afford the Transporter, keep it and enjoy the music instead of wasting
time setting up incorrect/incomplete testing procedures.
Not sure what prompted such an unpleasant reply.
Oh,
El Duderino:
I think that a two channel audio system should be in balance. I believe
that a financial ratio of 50% for speakers, 33% for amplification and
17% for sources is about right.
I am very familiar with Aperian speakers and have purchased the 5T's
for my daughter. They provide
boxerboy;409542 Wrote:
El Duderino:
I think that a two channel audio system should be in balance. I believe
that a financial ratio of 50% for speakers, 33% for amplification and
17% for sources is about right.
I am very familiar with Aperian speakers and have purchased the 5T's
for my
duderino,
how are you level matching?
Are you using your preamp to chanege the level or are you lowering the
volume on the TP.
You should set both the SB and TP to max volume and use the preamp to
change the volume to match.
You raise the noise floor if you use the digital volume and might
tomjtx;409614 Wrote:
duderino,
how are you level matching?
Are you using your preamp to chanege the level or are you lowering the
volume on the TP.
You should set both the SB and TP to max volume and use the preamp to
change the volume to match.
You raise the noise floor if you
I'll just throw in my two cents on this subject. I auditioned the
Transporter under their trial offer and ended up keeping my SB3 to use
with a Lavry DA-10 external DAC. I could find no audible difference
between them to justify keeping the Transporter. That was about two
years ago and I've had
Robin Bowes;409472 Wrote:
Thank *you* for a superb riposte to a typical audiophile post.
:)
R.
It was my pleasure. ;)
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El Duderino:
I am going to share with you the way that I audition equipment. You are
cerainly free to use other selections that you may find more in tune
with your tastes.
I have used the same four tracks to test different audio systems for
several years. This enables me to establish a base
One argument for the Transporter: It is able to play 96kHz files.
As long as the most common way to get digital music is ripping standard
CDs it's not a big advantage. But the more you can buy music online the
more I would love being able to play the best quality offered.
I'm extremely happy
Quad;409695 Wrote:
One argument for the Transporter: It is able to play 96kHz files.
As long as the most common way to get digital music is ripping standard
CDs it's not a big advantage. But the more you can buy music online the
more I would love being able to play the best quality
Phil Leigh;409699 Wrote:
...and a small counter-argument: 24/96 don't sound ANY different to
24/48...
:-)
Thats possible... never had the chance to try due to a lack of
Transporter. ;-) Maybe there some serious testing would be appropriate.
--
Quad
El Duderino;409630 Wrote:
... I did find that the SB3 was somewhat fatiguing to listen to due to
unrefined/harsh highs. That seems to have resolved with the
Transporter.
In my eyes :-) that's not a small feat. I have seen all kinds of
phrases used to illustrate the quality of the
iPhone;409297 Wrote:
If you are going to use FLAC or some other lossless format and can
afford the Transporter, keep it and enjoy the music instead of wasting
time setting up incorrect/incomplete testing procedures.
First, common sense should tell you that you are wasting your time as
Quad wrote:
meter is needed. Would you really consider blind-testing scotch single
malt vs. bourbon? ;-)
If you're ever in the area, let me know and we can find out :)
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boxerboy;409662 Wrote:
El Duderino:
I am going to share with you the way that I audition equipment. You are
cerainly free to use other selections that you may find more in tune
with your tastes.
I have used the same four tracks to test different audio systems for
several years. This
I have 5 SB3's and 3 Transporters. The quality of the DAC's in the
Transporters are much higher.
Are you using lossless files? If you are using MP3's you may not find
much difference.
What speakers are you using? What is your room like?
Jim
--
boxerboy
El Duderino;409076 Wrote:
Good point. Downloaded some white noise and used my Radio Shack level
meter to ensure equal volumes. It turns out that, for whatever reason,
fixing volume at 100% on both the SB3 and Transporter is not enough to
equalize volumes if one unit is connected using
I can hardly imagine that there will be no big difference between a
Squeezebox and a Transporter. I do not own a Transporter but after
having upgraded my Squeezebox with an external DAC, sound quality
increased dramatically. I would expect the same from a Transporter.
--
Quad
El Duderino;409064 Wrote:
Hi,
I am currently A/B'ing my SB3 and new Transporter to determine whether
the significant price differential between the two units is justified,
or whether the 30 day money back guarantee is the way to go.
At present, I have the SB3 hooked up through its RCA
iPhone;409297 Wrote:
If you are going to use FLAC or some other lossless format and can
afford the Transporter, keep it and enjoy the music instead of wasting
time setting up incorrect/incomplete testing procedures.
Not sure what prompted such an unpleasant reply. As far as
boxerboy;409273 Wrote:
I have 5 SB3's and 3 Transporters. The quality of the DAC's in the
Transporters are much higher.
Are you using lossless files? If you are using MP3's you may not find
much difference.
What speakers are you using? What is your room like?
Jim
Hi Jim. I am
Hi,
I am currently A/B'ing my SB3 and new Transporter to determine whether
the significant price differential between the two units is justified,
or whether the 30 day money back guarantee is the way to go.
At present, I have the SB3 hooked up through its RCA analog output to a
Bel Canto Pre1
El Duderino wrote:
To my ears, it sounds like the Transporter may be a little louder...
Do not use your ears to equalise sound. Get a sound level meter.
Radio Shack sells a fine unit for $30. The difference in price between a
SB3 and Transporter is many times more than the cost of the sound
pfarrell;409067 Wrote:
Do not use your ears to equalise sound. Get a sound level meter.
Radio Shack sells a fine unit for $30. The difference in price between
a
SB3 and Transporter is many times more than the cost of the sound
meter.
Make sure that the volume is exactly the same.
Good
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