Re: VLAN routing [7:13465]

2001-07-26 Thread Peter Van Oene
Ok, one more round of nit picky comments and I'll quit :) > > >> > Do I need a router between my VLANs? > >If you want the VLANs to communicate with each other. Are these trick >questions? ;-) I realize there are cases where you don't want them to >communicate. I guess that is what you are gett

Re: Catalyst 6509 vs BlackDiamond [7:13837]

2001-07-26 Thread Peter Van Oene
I've heard similar in the past. However, keep in mind that very few enterprise networks will ever generate traffic at that level. I've never seen any network even turn on the utilization lights on the C6k or C5k for that matter. Too often people weight sheer throughput higher than other enterpr

Re: VLAN routing [7:13465]

2001-07-26 Thread Peter Van Oene
Good points. I should certainly clarify that I don't advocate bridging between VLANs unless it makes sense to do so which is usually a corner case. I also fully support properly scoping broadcast domains and using a one vlan to one subnet methodology for cleanliness. I love simple networks. I

Re: VLAN routing [7:13465]

2001-07-26 Thread Peter Van Oene
Incline comment >>And the question often is, "what problem are you trying to solve by >>routing between VLANs?" There certainly are reasons, in a campus >>environment, to bridge between VLANs with a L2 switch, such as the >>VLAN users in one or more buildings and the servers for that VLAN in >>a

Re: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]

2001-07-31 Thread Peter Van Oene
There was actually some recent debate on this issue within the ISIS wg in the IETF from some notable folks including Tony Li from Procket (ex Juniper/Cisco). In reality, there isn't a standard IP MTU in use which can create some problems. Some of the key issues include the use of private address

Re: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]

2001-08-01 Thread Peter Van Oene
To my knowledge, there are no proponents of sub 1518 byte IP MTU's to be used as defaults on internet routers. I would tend to think that at least 4470 would make sense. Per my previous post in this thread, I am of the opinion that a consensus hasn't been reached at this point on this issue. Fo

Re: OSPF Database [7:14793]

2001-08-03 Thread Peter Van Oene
clear ip ospf database? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/3/2001 at 10:13 AM Nabil Fares wrote: >Greetings, > >Is there a way to flush the OSPF database without rebooting he router? > >Thanks, > >Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14797&t=147

Re: Load Balancing... [7:14865]

2001-08-04 Thread Peter Van Oene
Since Howard is in London, allow me to ask "What problem are you trying to solve?" *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/3/2001 at 10:07 PM Santosh Koshy wrote: >Hi All, > >I have a slight dilemma to which I cannot seem to find a definitive >answer.. We have 4 circuits going from C

Re: Border router as route reflector? [7:14762]

2001-08-06 Thread Peter Van Oene
This problem has nothing to do with Route Reflection and is simply the typical behavior for IBGP. Next_Hop attributes are not changed throughout the AS. Your indication of the two methods of handling next hop resolution are accurate, and which you use tends to be a point of preference. I find t

RE: help in BGP [7:14954]

2001-08-06 Thread Peter Van Oene
A quick thought here. You are correct in saying that the network statement is a trigger used to inject routes into the BGP process. However, it really has nothing to do with IBGP specifically nor does it in any way allow intra AS routing to occur. Routing within the AS will always be the domain

Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15326]

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Van Oene
Sometimes when I make bank deposits I forget my calculator. In actual fact I don't own a calculator and bringing my laptop to the ATM to add up the money sees odd to me. It is in cases like this that I use my brain. I've also had to quickly rebuild routed networks to avoid downtime and in the

Re: BGP: IBGP usage/clarification [7:15333]

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Van Oene
A couple quick notes. However I would suggest if you have a subscription that you step through Howards BGP series at www.certificationzone.com as it might help you solidify your understanding. First off, IBGP is not an IGP. If you want to get from point A to point B in AS C, IBGP isn't your frie

RE: BGP: IBGP usage/clarification [7:15333]

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Van Oene
Comments inline *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/8/2001 at 2:48 PM Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >Thanks Peter. > >I have browsed through Howards's BGP series, but for me, sometimes too long >explanations are more frustrating than a 10 words fact. > >Two addi

RE: BGP: IBGP usage/clarification [7:15333]

2001-08-09 Thread Peter Van Oene
s for granted. Glad to help. pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/8/2001 at 3:40 PM Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >Thanks once again Peter, > >I now have a much better understanding of the BGP. > >I can now jump on to some of the other areas where I'm still leaking a

Please can someone remove this guy. [7:15462]

2001-08-09 Thread Peter Van Oene
This is getting ridiculous! I can seem to figure out the address to remove him. *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *** On 8/8/2001 at 8:39 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Your message > > Subject: RE: BGP: IBGP usage/clarification [7:15333] > >was not delivered to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: show ip bgp summary [7:15938]

2001-08-14 Thread Peter Van Oene
I believe scan time pertains to the frequency that a PE router queries a VPNv4 route reflector to ensure that it has a complete routing picture for its configured VPN's. This is 2547bis functionality. However, to me, this requires support of outbound route filtering (ORF) and I'm not sure if Cisc

Re: Large & very large networks & procotols? [7:16039]

2001-08-14 Thread Peter Van Oene
This is really the domain of text books on network design and short bursts of text aren't likely to do the question any justice. As with similar questions like "how many routers in an OSPF area" this question yields a variety of answers depending on the desired functionality and related compositi

Re: OSPF Distance Vector in the backbone? [7:16120]

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Van Oene
Hey Ralph, This statement is quite true. Is there an area you wish to break down more fully? For support, see the draft-ietf-ospf-abr-alt-04.txt which includes the following text: In OSPF domains the area topology is restricted so that there must be a backbone area (area 0) and all other ar

Re: ip precedence [7:16170]

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Van Oene
It is untouched unless a provider decides to mess with it which is not completely uncommon. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/15/2001 at 9:19 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Does ip precedence field remain intact while traveling through different >autonomous systems or is it set to a

RE: OSPF Distance Vector in the backbone? [7:16120]

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Van Oene
The metric that exists in a summary LSA is representative of the entire path to the destination network, excluding situations where aggregation has taken place. Specifically, when an ABR generates a type 3, it populates the metric field of that summary with the current metric for the route as fou

Re: Certificationzone White Paper ? [7:16354]

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
This means that although the switch cannot prevent the forwarding of invalid frames since it begins forwarding prior to verifying the checksum, it can keep track of the number of errored frames since it does eventually verify the checksum. In other words, unlike store and forward switches who ver

Re: Real world OSPF design dilemma (Longish) [7:16341]

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
I'm not sure where you got the idea that one big area zero is a bad thing? In this case, I would highly recommend it. This is a pretty small network and I really don't see the benefit of adding hierarchy to it from a multi-area perspective. Keep in mind that the more you segment an OSPF area in

Re: Real world OSPF design dilemma (Longish) [7:16341]

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Van Oene
I should have limited that to one big area vs one big area 0. I'm all for single areas when they suit, but I agree that using a non zero area can have some benefits. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/17/2001 at 10:24 AM Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >>I'm not sure where you got the id

Re: InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-08-18 Thread Peter Van Oene
Keep in mind that one routes between IP subnets, not VLANs. VLANs are a layer two concept. From there you should be able to answer you own first question. In the second case, given IP subnets have unique ranges, only on PC will be on the valid subnet and hence be able to communicate to the rest

Re: ip default-network [7:16507]

2001-08-19 Thread Peter Van Oene
Hi Richard, Some good CCO links have already been posted. I just wanted to add a quick point. This command is useful as a tool for providing a semi dynamic default route. For example, if you are connected to two upstream networks which both offer you routes toward a destination, say 10/8 for e

Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-21 Thread Peter Van Oene
For clarity since VLANs are a pet peeve of mine, can we ask which router will route between trunked interfaces? One does not route between VLANs, one routes between IP subnets with IP routers. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/21/2001 at 2:40 AM EA Louie wrote: >any router that s

Re: For FR Grus.... [7:16635]

2001-08-21 Thread Peter Van Oene
Is there a question here that I'm missing? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/21/2001 at 7:06 AM Cisco Lover wrote: >Hi Guys.. > >Come with some New Queston.. > >For eg, >our FR switch is setup for Full mesh,But out network is setup as Hub & >Spoke >FAQ, list archives, and subscrip

Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-21 Thread Peter Van Oene
ge where you can, route where you must" ? > >----- Original Message - >From: "Peter Van Oene" >To: "EA Louie" ; >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:51 AM >Subject: Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609] > > >For clarity since V

Re: Load balancing [7:16738]

2001-08-21 Thread Peter Van Oene
HSRP and interface tracking seems viable to me *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/21/2001 at 6:06 PM Kim Quang Vo wrote: >I am using 2 routers of 2610. (router A og B) >router A and B in the same LAN. > >serial interface of A og B connection to two others ISP routers. > >LAN using d

Re: Loopback0 with Mask of 255.255.255.255 ?? [7:16796]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Van Oene
Assigning recognizable addresses with /32 masks would be considered best practises in my opinion. Ideally, these are publicly routable in the SP space. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/22/2001 at 9:02 AM Edmondson, Dorothy M wrote: >Is there a preferred addressing scheme for loo

Re: THEY ARE NOT PORTS THEY ARE INTERFACES! [7:16843]

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Van Oene
8/22/2001 at 1:08 PM Peter Slow wrote: >an INTERFACE a thing, such as an ethernet or loopback interface. >a port is a logical device, and NO a loopback does not count. >i meant like tcp ports, usp ports, and the like. > >Stop being d0rks and copying everyone else who does it >wrong

RE: Best study materials to use [7:16946]

2001-08-23 Thread Peter Van Oene
Cisco Press is just another publisher and in my opinion indicates no more or less valuable text than any other publisher. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/23/2001 at 6:10 AM Munzir Khan wrote: >Cisco Press is always the best bacause it is more specific what you see in >the real exa

Re: BGP question [7:16961]

2001-08-23 Thread Peter Van Oene
You could really search the archives for this as its been answered a bunch of times. Anyway, here's the short story. A bunch of years ago, it was possible, due to smaller internet routing tables sizes, to publish your external reachability to your interior gateway routing protocol, otherwise know

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-26 Thread Peter van Oene
To my knowledge, this is purely a cisco implementation issue and you'd need to look at the code or ask the coders what their particular intention was. OSPF didn't play much of a role in transit networks during the time when synchronization was a relevant option as far as I know so I doubt the

Re: BGP filtering [7:30172]

2001-12-27 Thread Peter van Oene
AS-Macro's are an object in an RPSL based Internet Routing Registry (IRR) that is used to simplify routing policy registration by grouping AS's. See Ripe-181 (rfc 1786). If you happen to build routing policies using RPSL, I expect you can write policies around AS-Macros, though I've no experi

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Peter van Oene
Good find! Some additional info. Per rfc 3166, RFC 1403, which obsoletes 1364, has been moved to historic status since no one ever implemented it. This is likely because redistributing BGP into your IGP really isn't a great idea unless you'd like to see how fast you can dump your entire netw

Re: OSPF into iBGP with Sync [7:30126]

2001-12-28 Thread Peter van Oene
Hmm.. Reading more, I think I made a mistake (there's a new one) Anyway, Routers 1, 2, and 3 are BGP peers, however they connect via an IGP domain that doesn't participate in BGP. RT3 will learn of prefix X 4 times. Once from each ASBR via BGP with full attributes intact. Once from each ASBR

Re: BGP in Production [7:30535]

2001-12-31 Thread Peter van Oene
Totally depends on the platform/feature set you require. I expect most try and stay in the S train, though MPLS pushes you to the ST train. Usually folks talk to their cisco SE team and get a feel for which IOS is likely to be the most stable. Definately most are in the 12 range now though I

Re: IS-IS Verification [7:30957]

2002-01-04 Thread Peter van Oene
worst. >:-) > > > > >Pete > > > > > >At 09:32 AM 1/4/2002 -0600, Michael C. Popovich wrote: > >>I have double checked on Documentation CD regarding IS-IS and the need > >>for CLNS. Peter is definitely right in the fact that CLNS is not > >>required

Re: IBGP [7:31063]

2002-01-06 Thread Peter van Oene
Vincent, There is no "mechanism" needed. IBGP routers simply do not do this. You don't need a mechanism to prevent something when the protocol isn't designed to do it in the first place. On the contrary, you need a mechanism to make IBGP advertise prefixes learned from IBGP neighbors which

Re: IBGP [7:31063]

2002-01-07 Thread Peter van Oene
Just for clarity, this really isn't a split horizon implementation. Specifically, split horizon deals with prefix advertisements directed out of interfaces from which they were originally learned which is not what IBGP does. IBGP simply does not re advertise prefixes learned from IBGP neigh

RE: URGENT - PLEASE HELP - OSPF summary route cost. [7:31832]

2002-01-14 Thread Peter van Oene
Although I agree with you here, I'm not able to find a valid reason for the inclusion of the D's interface to Net 3 in the cost from A. C should use its own interface cost of 64 as the only cost to net 3 thereby returning a cost of 69. I'm of the opinion that this is a bug, or some wacky hand

Re: DS3 requirments [7:31914]

2002-01-14 Thread Peter van Oene
I like the M5 myself :) At 10:24 PM 1/14/2002 -0500, Tony Medeiros wrote: >Look at the 7120 and 7140 series. There are a couple of models that one or >two built in DS-3 ports w/ built in CSU's. They are cheaper than a full >blown 7200 and have a lot of nice features. >See: >http://www.cisco.co

Re: TOS (TOS 0)routes?? [7:32242]

2002-01-16 Thread Peter van Oene
TOS 0 specifies normal delivery in OSPF TOS based routing. There are 4 other defined classes of service, however, this concept never took off and thus all OSPF routing takes place using TOS 0. Research wise, I'd recommend you consider some primary source material if your searching that dilige

Re: Loopback IP masking - 32 or 24 bits? or? [7:32345]

2002-01-17 Thread Peter van Oene
I've seen ISP's assign /24's and /25's to loopbacks on dial boxes in order to get the dial pools into the IGP. This is versus static routing them and pushing them into the IGP via redistribution (into NSSA OSPF or ISIS areas). I'm not pro either approach and prefer direct injects to BGP, but

Re: Checking overall LAN utilization [7:33256]

2002-01-28 Thread Peter van Oene
Related to the subject of ethernet utilization, the following paper, while dated, provides some interesting insight. http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~srini/current_class/readings/B+88.pdf At 09:06 AM 1/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Priscilla is absolutely right, its a fuzzy question. I have just two >th

Re: using BGP private AS [7:33595]

2002-01-29 Thread Peter van Oene
Why not simply prevent your customer routes from entering your IGP by the normal means? Is there some relationship from BGP to the IGP in your network that we may not be aware of? Pete At 02:57 PM 1/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Everyone: I saw some examples to use BGP private AS for si

Re: Serial numbers for routers

2000-05-15 Thread Ralf-Peter Müller
Hi, try "show version" and/or "show diag" cu Nodir Nazarov wrote: > Hello, > > is there any way to get serial numbers of cisco routers and modules for > these routers using command line ? > > Thanks, > Nodir > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.grou

Re: In and Out of band management - what is the diff?

2000-06-12 Thread Ralf-Peter Müller
uters problem. But if the router is dead your outband management are your legs and your laptop ;-) cu im globalen dorf ralf der peter Emmanuel Solomon wrote: > What is the difference between In and Out of band management? I read it > today for the first time.

E1 question

2000-07-10 Thread Peter Van Gup
Can someone tell me what is the maximum of timeslots on an E1 can be used to transmit data. Does this depent on a Cisco interface or is there a standard for. I also would like to no what are the difference between an channelized and a unchannelized (framed /unframed) E1. What kind of info is trans

Re: question(routing) [7:62490]

2003-02-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:02 AM 2/5/2003 +, kaushalender wrote: >Hello group, > >Kindly resolve my confussion.I have cisco 2610 router.We r running >static routing with our service provider .Now what is happening that >suddely my http request stoped going out means there was no browsing on > lan and customer I w

Re: 7500 Router CPU rocketing to 90% [7:62530]

2003-02-05 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:18 PM 2/5/2003 +, Mohsin Hussain wrote: >We have 2 7500 routers with CIPs installed. Recently the router started to >have its CPU shooting upto 90%. When show process cpu is run. It does not >show what process is causing this because none of the processes are or add >upto 80 or 90%. Only

Re: Distribute-list out in ISIS - NOT working!!....Why?? [7:62643]

2003-02-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:46 PM 2/7/2003 +, Cisco Nuts wrote: >Hello,I am trying to use a distribute-list out serial 1 in >isis...basically blocking an Ospf route from being leaked into the Isis >domain. It lets me type in the commands but when I do a show run, the >commands are not there!! Why??On the neighborin

OT: Reminder about Out of Office Messages [7:62645]

2003-02-07 Thread Peter van Oene
When you leave work for a while, can you please try and make sure that your out of office assistant doesn't respond to mailing lists :) This generates a lot of superfluous mail. Thanks and sorry for the OT post. Pete Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62645&t=

RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:18 PM 2/10/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >You can't have duplicate IP addresses anywhere. They have to be unique. The >only exceptions would be if you were doing some sort of NAT or tunneling or >something and the duplicates were hidden from each other. > >You don't get an error wh

RE: Simple Ip issue (need help) [7:62728]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
ding list for duplicates and error if there is one. Such a mechanism wouldn't be relevant in SONET and for the APS reasoning, it may be expected that some interfaces share the same address. >Cisco has always given you enough rope to hang yourself. Decent error >messages hav

Re: BGP exam study recommendations [7:62784]

2003-02-10 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:40 PM 2/10/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote: >Folks > >I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations for BGP study. I am >booked in for the BGP beta exam on Friday and still dont feel >comfortable with my level of BGP knowledge. I have read the following >over t

Re: BGP config question. [7:62860]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:36 PM 2/12/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote: >Folks > >A quick question on external BGP connection configuration. > >Given an organisation (ORG) with 2 EBGP routers (up1, up2) and two upstream >providers (pr1, and pr2) where provider pr1 is currently linked to the >router

Re: BGP config question. [7:62860]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:59 PM 2/12/2003 +, Peter Walker wrote: >Yep you are right. > >Lets try that again ... > >a) connect up1 to the same ethernet segment >b) form bgp neighbor relationship with BGP peer at provider pr2 >c) advertise appropriate MED values reque

Re: Catalyst 6500 vs 7200 VXR [7:62892]

2003-02-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:37 PM 2/12/2003 +, Brett Johnson wrote: >What benefits can a Catalyst 6500 switch provide that a 7200 router cannot? >Are the FLEXWAN modules a reliable product or is it better to separate your >WAN traffic devices from you LAN devices? What about the performance of the >FLEXWAN modules?

Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Peter van Oene
> >There's more about the Myers Briggs personality "sorter" here: > > > >http://keirsey.com/ > > > >Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough >bandwidth > >on this already? :-) > > > >Priscilla > > > >First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class. >This

Re: Layer3 Routers VS Switches [7:63072]

2003-02-15 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:22 PM 2/15/2003 +, Juntao wrote: >indeed with L3 switching, we can more closely arrive at wire speed, but in >the course of my practice, i seen L3 switches mainly interconnecting Lan's, >yes a flexwan modul exists to interconnect wan's on the same box but usually >we like to separate the

Re: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:05 AM 2/25/2003 +, Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote: >In a Core-Distribution-Access Layer design, would you keep the Core L2 or >with high end L2/L3 switches such as the Cat6500 do you think it would be >better to do L3 in the core ? I personally haven't found the need to have a Distribution

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 2/25/2003 +, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: >I am under the impression that switching is a layer 2 function and that >routing is a layer 3 function. I have seen several discussions talking >about layer 3 switching. Could someone explain this to me? Bridging is a layer two function,

RE: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
erformance core that can provide access aggregation, packet processing and performance all at the same time, and your port costs are comparable per mbps, I'm not sure why you'd buy a distribution layer other than to help a rep hit his number for the quarter. >-Original Mess

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:46 PM 2/25/2003 +, Robert Edmonds wrote: >Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in one >platform. The main advantage here is speed. The way it works is, in a >switch you have some kind of layer 3 routing engine (aka route processor, or >RP). For example, the MSFC

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:03 PM 2/25/2003 +, Ellis, Andrew wrote: >According to Cisco: > >Layer 3 switching refers to a class of high-performance switch routers >optimized for the campus LAN or intranet, providing wirespeed Ethernet >routing and switching services. > >Compared to other routers, Layer 3 switch rout

Re: Core Layer L2 or L3 [7:63708]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:17 PM 2/25/2003 +, you wrote: >Peter, > >The current rumour for the Academy CCNP program is that Cisco is dropping >the 3 layer model and moving to a 2 layer model with L3 in the core for >the BCMS course. I guess I'll find out for certain at Networkers in >

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Peter van Oene
A >And that's exactly what would happen if you did the inter-VLAN routing on a >router too, using subinterfaces for each VLAN/ IP subnet. :-) > >And, if it were a high-end router, it could do this at wire speed and would >have a RIB and FIB, just like someone else described for the 6500. The 7500 >

Re: ATM RFC [7:64199]

2003-03-02 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:19 PM 3/2/2003 +, you wrote: >Hi Group, Would u kindly guide me which RFC to read to understand >properly the behaviour of different ATM types of service ( vbr-nrt, cbr, >abr, ... ) Best Regards The ATM forum is your best bet here. Here is a relevant link. http://www.atmforum.com/stand

Re: Question on BGP aggregation [7:64581]

2003-03-06 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:31 AM 3/6/2003 +, Mike Flanagan wrote: >I have a question on different methods of BGP aggregation. Lets say >for instance that I had 4 /24 that I wanted to aggregate to a /22. >I am getting these /24's through EBGP and want to summarize them to >my IBGP peer withought using any aggregate

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? Cisco calls it Hybrid. It looks pretty distance vector to me though. A hello mechanism and adjacencies does not a link state one make. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?

Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vector protocol? > > > > Cisco ca

RE: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:54 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707] > >""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 12:11 PM 3/7/2003 +, Johan Bornman wrote: > > >Is EIGRP a Hybrid or Distance Vecto

Re: Layer 3 MPLS VPN Questions [7:64770]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:05 PM 3/7/2003 +, John Neiberger wrote: >I'm at the early stages of considering migrating away from a >point-to-point frame relay network to a layer 3 MPLS-based private >network and I have a couple of questions based on some preliminary >verbal information. > >I was told that no router r

OT: Re: EIGRP for CCIE Written [7:64707]

2003-03-07 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:30 PM 3/7/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >""MADMAN"" wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I agree 100%, it is ENHANCED, read glorified, IGRP. > > >the REAL question is "which is better, EIGRP or L3 switching?" ;-> I'm working on a draft for ARP switching. Still str

Re: Become instructor [7:64820]

2003-03-08 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:11 AM 3/8/2003 +, omar wrote: >Hello , >I am working as a freelance and i would like to be an Instructor (Cisco) . >Did anybody know the cursus? I believe you still need to work for an authorized Cisco training partner assuming you are looking for the CCSI designation. >best regards >o

Re: ??? MPLS ??? [7:64898]

2003-03-11 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:16 PM 3/10/2003 +, Steven Aiello wrote: >Sorry for such a newbe question. But what is MPLS? And what is it? >Any one have a link they can point me too? Just trying to learn more. I would recommend you start at www.mplsrc.com and possibly surf to the standards page. Within that page,

OT: OSPF vs ISIS in large networks [7:65049]

2003-03-11 Thread Peter van Oene
Hi all, Here is a quick post from Dave Katz on ISIS vs OSPF in large networks dealing with the issue of which protocol inherently scales better. This is from a thread in the IETF OSPF WG mailing list for those looking for the full thread. Dave has participated significantly in the development

Re: Bandwidth calculations [7:65008]

2003-03-12 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:36 PM 3/12/2003 +, Amar KHELIFI wrote: >sorry i don't agree. >check the bandwidth calculator on the net, u will see that i was correct. >+ for the K and k and B and b, it is so obvious that an explanation is not >necessary... While I agree that Kb tends to refer to 1024 and kb to

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 01:43 AM 3/13/2003 +, aletoledo wrote: >a "layer three switch" is a router, just as a "switch" is really a bridge. a >layer 3 switch 'routes' in hardware, while a router routes in software. For what its worth, Juniper would likely take exception to your calling their products layer three s

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >is forwarding rate and the switch-fabric (or the size of the backplane, >usually in Gbps). A full-fledged Layer-3 switch running at "wire-speed" >would be much more

Re: BGP dampening [7:65086]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:39 PM 3/11/2003 +, Oliver Hensel wrote: >Hi! > >Can someone point me to a document which explains >what happens with a prefix that is dampened if >it's distributed via two providers. Hi Oliver, Here is a link to a doc from Randy Bush that covers damping in some detail. http://psg.com/~

Re: ISP OSPF Design [7:65316]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 3/13/2003 +, Chris Headings wrote: >Good morning all, > >Does anyone out there know of either a good white paper or book that shows >some ISP OSPF designed networks? I am trying to find something that is more >geared towards service providers rather than corporate network LAN desig

RE: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-13 Thread Peter van Oene
At 12:16 PM 3/13/2003 -0500, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >At 2:43 PM + 3/13/03, Peter van Oene wrote: >>At 10:44 PM 3/12/2003 +, Orlando, Jr. Palomar wrote: >>>Without consulting any documentation, a couple of reasons I could think of >>>is forwarding rate and the

Re: Any Cisco Teaching Certificate [7:65322]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:45 PM 3/13/2003 +, Shawn Xu wrote: >I am holding CCNP certificate. Recently I am interested in teaching Cisco >router and switch stuff. Do I need any Cisco teaching certificate? That depends on what you want to teach. If you want to teach licensed Cisco material, then I'd consult with

Re: Spanning tree question on .1q trunks [7:65386]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 11:08 AM 3/14/2003 +, Amar KHELIFI wrote: >ur right about the frames ability to use gig0/2 only if the gig0/1 goes >down, but according to the standard, the link from which bpdu's arrive with >a higher cost will be put on blocking, but visibely that is not the case. >some one will surelly re

RE: ASBR router [7:65424]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:00 PM 3/14/2003 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It is generally a bad idea to run any IGP with your ISP. If your intent is >to advertise the external interface that you connect to your ISP to your >OSPF network, then run that interface under OSPF as passive. I don't think any sane ISP woul

Re: Layer 3 Switches Vs Routers [7:65215]

2003-03-14 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:57 PM 3/14/2003 +, Scott Roberts wrote: > > In the end, the device either routes or bridges the frames it > > receives, but takes no action that can be distinctly described as layer > > three switching. > > > > Pete > > > >to my basic understanding ALL routing has a switching component to

Re: Off Topic - CCIE Certification Junkies [7:65499]

2003-03-15 Thread Peter van Oene
At 05:30 PM 3/15/2003 +, The Long and Winding Road wrote: >With the announcement of the CCIE Voice certification ( a Good Thing, IMHO ) >I wonder a couple of things: > >1) who will be the first quadruple CCIE? A certification junkie ;-) >2) Does Cisco still recognize the Design, WAN, and IBM

Re: IOS for MPLS [7:65586]

2003-03-17 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:25 PM 3/17/2003 +, Michael wrote: >Dear all > >Can anybody suggest a stable vesion that supports >MPLS? Try your SE team. It's all a balance of platforms/features/interfaces/VIPs/PA's etc :) >We are in a process of running MPLS though our network >on C7507 routers and we tried a few v

RE: Getting out of hand?? [7:65676]

2003-03-18 Thread Peter van Oene
At 07:31 PM 3/18/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Maccubbin, Duncan wrote: > > > > How is the industry supposed to keep up with this?? > >What's the issue? Not sure I'm seeing your point. What's wrong with Cisco >announcing that their product received some sort of certificaton? Exactly..

Re: Using communites to change the local-pref - not working?? [7:65999]

2003-03-22 Thread Peter van Oene
Are you sure the communities are on the routes when they hit UU/Sprint? I expect you remembered to add send-community to the peer :) Pete At 04:26 PM 3/22/2003 +, Cisco Nuts wrote: >Hello, >I have 2 routers in AS300 >RTF is connected to RTA in AS 1239 & >RTG is connected to RTH in AS 701

Re: Using communites to change the local-pref - not working?? [7:66002]

2003-03-22 Thread Peter van Oene
> > > Question: Should AS7018 on receiving the communites from AS1239 and AS701 > > set the desired local pref?? > > Why not?? > > What am I missing? > > Please advise. > >My read on it ( after checking Halabi's and Stewart's books ) is that >LOCAL_PREF is typically set on the inbound side, not wit

Re: type 4 LSA updates OSPF question [7:66089]

2003-03-24 Thread Peter van Oene
At 08:25 PM 3/24/2003 +, Xy Hien Le wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Can someone tell me that only ABR will ORIGINATE type 4 LSA in OSPF or both >ABR and ASBR do? Only ABRs originate type 4 summaries. Pete >Thanks >Xy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=66094&t=66089

Re: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:55 PM 3/25/2003 +, Peter P wrote: >I can ping from router A through various hops to router F. >Therefore the packet'knows' how to reach F - and also how to find a path >back to A by reply. However from router F I cannot ping router A. >As the ping works in the fi

RE: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:35 PM 3/25/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Orlando Palomar Jr CCIE#11206 wrote: > > > > You have a routing problem. Check your routing tables > > thouroughly. I'm sure you're missing some networks. > > > > The reason you're able to ping one-way is because you're using > > different

RE: ping things [7:66155]

2003-03-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:35 PM 3/25/2003 +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Orlando Palomar Jr CCIE#11206 wrote: > > > > You have a routing problem. Check your routing tables > > thouroughly. I'm sure you're missing some networks. > > > > The reason you're able to ping one-way is because you're using > > different

Re: PING PROBLEM [7:66132]

2003-03-26 Thread Peter van Oene
At 09:58 AM 3/26/2003 +, Larry Letterman wrote: >The serial interface cant ping itself like the ethernet can..It will send the >packet to the remote end and then back..if the path between both serial >interfaces is not correct the local ping will >fail..turn off keepalives and see if the ping w

Re: Basic QOS Frame MPLS question [7:66210]

2003-03-26 Thread Peter van Oene
At 02:08 PM 3/26/2003 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I don4t think so. > >There are many QoS tool that you can use without MPLS. For what it's worth, MPLS is not a QOS tool. It can be used as a component in a QOS strategy, but by itself, provides no QOS. >For example, you can use "ip rtp prio

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