Re: Juniper

2000-12-15 Thread root
is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling like hotcakes. I guess you get what you pay for. and did you hear the latest news, Cisco's lead on their MPLS design no longer works for Cisco. Guess who he works for now? You're right, Yakov Rekhter now works for Junip

Re: Juniper

2000-12-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 10:17 AM 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling > like hotcakes. And how about Juniper stock!? &;-) >I guess you get what you pay for. >and did you hear the latest news, Cisco's lead on their MPLS design no >longer works

Re: Juniper

2000-12-17 Thread Mark Nguyen
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > At 10:17 AM 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling > > like hotcakes. > > And how about Juniper stock!? &;-) Like most tech stocks, they have recently slumped. but let's look at the numbe

RE: Juniper

2000-12-17 Thread Shaw, Winston Mr 5 SIG CMD
Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:07 PM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Juniper Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > At 10:17 AM 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > is very hard to get your hands on a Juniper router... they are selling > > like hotcakes. >

RE: Juniper

2000-12-17 Thread Eddie Parra
Look at the financials... They say something totally different... -Eddie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Nguyen Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 12:07 PM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Juniper Priscilla

RE: Juniper

2000-12-18 Thread William Gragido
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eddie Parra Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 12:56 PM To: Mark Nguyen; Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Juniper Look at the financials... They say something totally different... -Eddie -Original

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Mathieu Nantel
Title: Juniper Foot print is the overall physical size of the router. As to whether they're good or not, I have no clue. Never worked with any other routers than Cisco. But then, I've only worked with 2 routers up to now...   Mathieu Nantel, ccna, cne, mcp - Original Message - F

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Lauren Child
> Nova Rich wrote: > I'm told that it's faster, cheaper and has a smaller foot print? > What's a foot print? Is it really better then Cisco? > The footprint is the size/space it takes up - these routers are physically smaller than their cisco equivelents so you can fit more of them in a rack.

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Casey Fahey
A footprint is the amount of floor space the device takes up. Smaller is often better, especially in a crowded lab or service bureau. As to which is better, that depends on what criteria you are applying. Generally speaking, Juniper equipment is considered to be comparable to and in some ca

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread hao vu
Title: Juniper Footprint is the physical dimension ie how much rack/desk space it needs. (ex: if it is 19"Wx10"DX4"H vs 19"Wx8" Dx 4"H; then the 2nd box has smaller "footprint")   HTH   H.vu -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nova Ri

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread FRS
Title: Juniper I heard the Juniper is optimized for the Core whereas Cisco excels in Core, Distribution and Access. Should we not all be designing IOS-to-IOS solutions for our clients considering the ROI with Cisco Gear? OTOH, as in the case in client-server ... Novell optimized for File and

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Phillip Heller
Juniper devices are ok to work with. The hardest thing to get used to is the fact that JunOS is BSD by any other name. Configuration is essentially pretty easy. Of course, coming from a cisco world, I originally feared Juniper boxes, but now I don't mind them so much. --phil On Thu, 28 Se

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread William E Gragido
Title: Juniper Why are they generating so much excitement? Because they route IP REALLY, REALLY fast and that there are several refugees from Cisco, including some who used to write code for the IOS employed by them.  This doesn't necessarily make them better, but I would imagine that cost+r

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Iohan Reyes
Actually, Juniper only makes high-speed routers (competitive to the Cisco 12000 series, but better). I don't think they make ATM switches either. For more info, check out their website. www.juniper.net I'm happy to say that I bought some of their stock back in May for $73/share...hehehe Io

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Chuck Larrieu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phillip Heller Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:59 PM To: Mathieu Nantel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Juniper Juniper devices are ok to work with. The hardest thing to get used to i

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Phillip Heller
Actually, after reviewing their product offering, they don't have access devices covered all that well. At the bottom of the spectrum, they offer the M5 router, which may be suitable as an access device for a regional ISP. I'd guess it's intended to compete with the cisco 3600 series. --phil O

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Richard A. Holland
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Juniper >Actually, Juniper only makes high-speed routers (competitive to the Cisco >12000 series, but better). I don't think t

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Phillip Heller
half Of Phillip Heller Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:59 PM To: Mathieu Nantel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Juniper Juniper devices are ok to work with. The hardest thing to get used to is the fact that JunOS is BSD by any other name. Confi

RE: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread William E Gragido
I am with Casey on this one. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Casey Fahey > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Juniper > > > > A footprin

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread regg4
;Casey Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Juniper > As a side note, it seems that Juniper's success seems to lie within their > ASICS. I'm not positive, but I believe this of

Re: Juniper

2000-09-28 Thread Casey Fahey
... Have a good weekend, Casey >From: Iohan Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Iohan Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Casey Fahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Juniper >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:

RE: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Ben Lovegrove
- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > Of > Phillip Heller > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:59 PM > To: Mathieu Nantel > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Juniper > > Juniper devices are ok to work with. T

Re: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Jack Walker
t; > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > > Of > > Phillip Heller > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:59 PM > > To: Mathieu Nantel > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Juniper >

RE: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Chuck Larrieu
sday, September 28, 2000 11:57 PM To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Juniper Absolutely. The Juniper M20, M40, and M160 Internet Backbone Routers are sometimes chosen instead of the Cisco 12000 Series. Press reports say that Juniper has gained some of the market share at

RE: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NSSG
ve; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Juniper Cisco bought a company called Cerent several months back. I was given a tour of a Nextlink ( now X0, after their purchase of Concentric ) pop recently. Full of Cerent stuff, and the engineer there waxed on and on about how great it was. All fiber connection

Re: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Patrick A. Morin
y multiple OC3 and higher? Correct? > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf > > > Of > > > Phillip Heller > > > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:5

Re: Juniper

2000-09-29 Thread Erick B.
I would determine what your goal is first, then find the best product for that piece of the network. Now, best product to many means many things. I'm not into sales and I don't care who makes the box. I look at features/performance/interoperability/vendor support capability/good box for the buck,

Re: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread MR
Title: Juniper Juniper products are much faster and cute. Look like your company is in right direction. Note... routing and session concept is going to go when optical products available. Cisco do not have time to figure out new technology...know only buying companies and making CCIE’s.   Ma

Re: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Leon Bass
Like everything else, When it's new everyone wants a piece, can you talk to anyone who has used it for at least 5 years, I doubt it. Whoever is placing the future of their company on this brand new technology better think twice. If you are smart, you better have an ole reliable Cisco box sitting

RE: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Jean Stockton
.        Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leon BassSent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:27 PMTo: MRCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Juniper Like everything else, When it's new everyone wants a piece, can you talk to anyone who has used it for at le

Re: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread hal9001
ginal Message - From: Leon Bass To: MR Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Juniper Like everything else, When it's new everyone wants a piece, can you talk to anyone who has used it for at least 5 years, I doubt it. Whoever

RE: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi
is that there will be enough out there > for all. as someone > said, be prepared to work with all. > > > m > . > > > > Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leon > Bass > Sent: Monday, October

RE: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread William E Gragido
? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Shahid Muhammad Shafi > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:28 PM > To: Jean Stockton > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Juniper > > > to me its same like microsoft

Re: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Jack Walker
31879a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > ? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Shahid Muhammad Shafi > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:28 PM > > To: Jean Stockton > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

Re: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Brian
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Leon Bass wrote: > Like everything else, When it's new everyone wants a piece, can you talk > to anyone who has used it for at least 5 years, I doubt it. > Whoever is placing the future of their company on this brand new > technology better think twice. FUD. Many many backb

RE: Juniper

2000-10-02 Thread Sam Adams
: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:31 PMTo: Leon Bass; MRCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Juniper juniper stock are out performing cisco at this time - sure cisco does a lot of acquisitions.    206 pr sh  vs   55.5 pr sh is a significant difference.  my good guess is that there will be enough

Re: Juniper

2000-10-03 Thread Chris Gore
I think you are incorrect! MCI WorldCom is scheduled to deploy some of the edge stuff soon. It is not in the core yet!! "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Leon Bass wrote: > > > Like everything else, When it's new ever

Re: Juniper

2000-10-03 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>I could not figured out why Juniper does not allow us to get access to the >documentation of their OS, we can only read the old version, but no way to >get the documnetation of the new version, do they want to people to learn it >and use it or what? >Unless there is some other reasons, this is so

Re: Juniper

2000-10-03 Thread Patrick A. Morin
gt; > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Shahid Muhammad Shafi > > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:28 PM > > To: Jean Stockton > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Juniper > > > > > > to me its same like microsoft to

RE: Juniper

2000-10-03 Thread Nova Rich
losing 25% of all your ports.   Nova Rich -Original Message-From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:20 PMTo: Leon Bass; MRCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Juniper The people I work with rave about Extreme anyone got good opinions about this

Re: Juniper

2000-10-03 Thread Brian
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Chris Gore wrote: > I think you are incorrect! MCI WorldCom is scheduled to deploy some of the > edge stuff soon. It is not in the core yet!! Cable & Wireless USA, Frontier Global Center, MCI WorldCom's vBNS, UUNET and Verio are all using Juniper routers at places in their ne

RE: Juniper

2000-10-04 Thread Rayappa Mayakunthala
al Message- From: Casey Fahey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Juniper A footprint is the amount of floor space the device takes up. Smaller is often better, especially in a crowded lab or service bur

RE: Juniper

2000-10-18 Thread Claudia Pereyra
7;" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Juniper >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:40:12 +0530 > >Wait a minute, I had a different understanding of "foot print" in software. >Foot print in software is the size of the image to be loaded. A

Re: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Babar Hameed
have u tried www.juniper.com? Babar Hameed Network Engineer Unisys Pakistan. -Original Message- From: "Erwin Novriyanto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:07:27 +0700 Subject: Juniper switch > Does any one know about web address for junip

RE: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Erwin Novriyanto
To: Erwin Novriyanto; Cisco Subject: Re: Juniper switch have u tried www.juniper.com? Babar Hameed Network Engineer Unisys Pakistan. -Original Message- From: "Erwin Novriyanto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000

RE: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Olden Pieterse
s such information or opinion has been confirmed in writing by an authorised WESTCON director. -Original Message- From: Babar Hameed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:11 AM To: Erwin Novriyanto; Cisco S

RE: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Erwin Novriyanto
Core layer. thanks for inform me. Erwin -Original Message- From: Chris Nwanonyiri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:08 PM To: Babar Hameed; Erwin Novriyanto; Cisco Subject: Re: Juniper switch Here is the Url for Juniper products http://juniper.net/products

RE: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Arthayuth . B
TECTED]] > Êè§àÁ×èÍ: 13 ¸Ñ¹ÇÒ¤Á 2543 15:22 > ¶Ö§: Babar Hameed; Cisco > àÃ×èͧ: RE: Juniper switch > > thanks for your info,..i guess the address is www.juniper.com its banking > corp. ..:) > i am looking forward for sales representative in Indonesia but,..they onl

RE: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Peter Van Oene
>-Original Message- >From: Chris Nwanonyiri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:08 PM >To: Babar Hameed; Erwin Novriyanto; Cisco >Subject: Re: Juniper switch > > >Here is the Url for Juniper products >http://juniper.net/products/

Re: Juniper switch

2000-12-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It's http://www.juniper.net. Juniper couldn't get the juniper.com people to give up their domain name. Priscilla At 01:10 PM 12/13/00, Babar Hameed wrote: >have u tried www.juniper.com? > >Babar Hameed >Network Engineer >Unisys Pakistan. > > >-Original Message- >From: "Erwin Novriy

Re: Juniper Core Routers

2001-01-31 Thread John Starta
http://www.juniper.net/products/ is a good starting point. jas At 03:13 PM 1/31/01 +, RLohiya wrote: >Hi Guys, slightly off topic, > >I need information on Juniper Core Routers. > >Any web links would be appreciated. > >Thanx > >Rashid _ FAQ, list archives, a

Re: Juniper Core Routers

2001-01-31 Thread Muhammad Zahid
please check it out, I think it ll help u. http://www.juniper.net/products/ Kindest Regards Muhammad Zahid RLohiya wrote: > Hi Guys, slightly off topic, > > I need information on Juniper Core Routers. > > Any web links would be appreciated. > > Thanx > > Rashid > > _

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Buri, Heather H
>From what I understand from people who work with large scale providers, Juniper is stronger in the Backbone. I believe Cisco is probably still the best for overall Enterprise products. Heather Buri -Original Message- From: cslx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>"cslx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, >it is said that the core technology of juniper is better than cisco now,it >that true? If you mean technology for provider-level core routers, Juniper certainly is a strong competitor, and others may enter that space as well. Juniper's products don't nec

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Dan West
For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable products that scale to OC192 and beyond. Juniper easily handles this for our backbone interfaces. I don't work with it directly myself, but that's what the higher-up engineers have told our group. :> --- "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Nathan
Check out Cisco's optical VSR technology. /n cslx wrote: > it is said that the core technology of juniper is better than cisco now,it > that true? > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Scott M. Trieste
Juniper v. Cisco Juniper seems to be a serious player in the carrier core, IP-only arena. Companies like Worldcom really like the wirespeed Gigabit/Terabit switching fabric. On the other hand, Cisco has a strong grasp (and market share) in the Enterprise arena. For my $.02 worth, they provide t

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
How long has this been deployed? >Check out Cisco's optical VSR technology. > >/n > >cslx wrote: > >> it is said that the core technology of juniper is better than cisco now,it > > that true? >> _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Roger Sohn
, performance, and scalability...that's why it took them a bit longer. I guess it's worth the wait. -Original Message- From: Dan West To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 2/26/2001 8:06 AM Subject: RE: juniper and cisco For our company, Cisco do

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Dan West
; wait. > > -----Original Message- > From: Dan West > To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Sent: 2/26/2001 8:06 AM > Subject: RE: juniper and cisco > > For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable > products that scale

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread kent . hundley
Roger, I assume your talking about the 7200 OSR? (announced officially on Feb. 20th) I'll admit that I haven't worked with the 7200 OSR, or with any of Junipers routers for that matter, but what is the basis for your comment that it "performs and scales better than Junipers routers"? Is this

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Net Bum
It seems from talking to both Juniper and Cisco sales reps that Cisco's strategy is: bash, bash, bash Juniper... Juniper's strategy is: here are our products and let me show you want it can do... I personally prefer Juniper's approach. Also I recently talked to this guy at a conference (Ch

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread William E. Gragido
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: juniper and cisco Roger, I assume your talking about the 7200 OSR? (announced officially on Feb. 20th) I'll admit that I haven't worked with the 7200 OSR, or with any of Junipers routers for that matter, but what is the basis for yo

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
I guess it's worth the >wait. > >-Original Message- >From: Dan West >To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Sent: 2/26/2001 8:06 AM >Subject: RE: juniper and cisco > >For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable >prod

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread anthony kim
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 03:11:15PM -0800, Net Bum wrote: >It seems from talking to both Juniper and Cisco sales reps that > >Cisco's strategy is: > bash, bash, bash Juniper... Yep, same goes for their take on Foundry, Extreme, and on and on. I get chills when I think how similar cisco is to Mic

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Lance
Uh yea, There both very successful. Its very easy to bash the leader, but it is much harder to be one. "anthony kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 03:11:15PM -0800, Net Bum wrote: > >It seems from talking to both

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Brian
nce, and > > scalability...that's why it took them a bit longer. > > I guess it's worth the > > wait. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dan West > > To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Sent: 2/26

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Securabyte Group
Here are some interesting links http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/corp_022201.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/rt/12000/12416/prodlit/itro_ds.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/ifaa/oc192/prodlit/cc19_ds.htm The thing is, Juniper's technology is based upon a central bus a

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread William E. Gragido
It depends on what you mean by 'better'. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cslx Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: juniper and cisco it is said that the core technology of juniper is better than cisco no

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread W. Alan Robertson
I have resisted the temptation to get involved in this, but since it's already being discussed some, I've got a question: "Net Bum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a Cisco 2600 series on my side and I asked him what he had on > his side. He said (as if I wouldn't know :-), "A big router, it'

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread Net Bum
Roger (I am assuming the same Roger from Securabyte Group), >I've seen many tests as where the Juniper routers experience a lot of >packet >loss and a decrease in performance and reliability when the node is fully >configured with a complete set of cards. Each time a card is removed or >added,

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread Kevin Welch
I have heard of similar issues with foundry routers, but it was second hand. -- Kevin - Original Message - From: "W. Alan Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Re: juniper and cisco > I have r

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread Net Bum
"W. Alan Robertson" wrote: >This is not the first time I've heard this; major ISPs utilizing Juniper in >parts of their core, but always using Cisco at the edge. Perhaps as ISPs expand, they migrate their existing boxes to the edge. Just as their old 7500's moved to the edge when the 12000's ca

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-27 Thread Erick B.
I've been reading this thread and have been resisting to reply but am now. This thread comes up every now and then. The bottom line is all vendors have their issues and software problems. No single vendor is perfect. It's like a catchup game in a way. Someone comes out with something first then t

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Here are some interesting links > > >http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/corp_022201.html > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/rt/12000/12416/prodlit/itro_ds.htm > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/cc/pd/ifaa/oc192/prodlit/cc19_ds.htm > > >The thing is, Juniper's technology is based upon a ce

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-28 Thread Marty Adkins
"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: > > >The thing is, Juniper's technology is based upon a central bus architecture > > shared memory, not shared bus. There is a difference. I don't > have the URL handy, but Cisco has a paper out by the Stanford > University professor who architected the GSR.

RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-28 Thread Yip Chan Keong
> shared memory, not shared bus. There is a difference. I don't >have the URL handy, but Cisco has a paper out by the Stanford >University professor who architected the GSR. It does a nice >comparison of the three basic architectures, shared bus, shared >memory, and crossbar. Shared bus r

Re: juniper and cisco

2001-02-28 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> > >Is anyone on the list familiar with a problem with Juniper's BGP >implementation >when peering with other vendors? An observation or two. The authors of the BGP-4 specification are Tony Li and Yakov Rekhter. Tony was the principal programmer of the Cisco code, as well as the Juniper cod

Re: Juniper [7:39666]

2002-03-27 Thread thinkworker
What do u mean by "set history"? In fact CLI environment is actually have its history. And accoring the reference it should be in the CLI environmnet setting while in fact I found nothing about the setting. Try use "show cli history" to get the history. On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:21:58 -0500 "Stanz

cisco like microsoft? (was Re: Juniper

2001-02-26 Thread anthony kim
I just found it curious. If you look at these market leaders, you'll find an eerie similarity in how their product lines incorporate technology acquisition. The ability to subsume heterogeneous technologies may indicate why these two have done so well (and one might argue, the fear of dethronement

Re: Juniper on FreeBSD [7:1303]

2001-04-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>All, > >Any of you ever had luck on porting Juniper to a FreeBSD box? >I heard that you could download the Junos and then tweak the BSD so that >make it just like the real box. I know Olive, but I guess that is something >else, although anybody can give me or tell me how to get a copy of Olive >w

Re: Juniper on FreeBSD [7:1303]

2001-04-19 Thread Phillip Heller
The Olive is simply the JunOS code running on a compatible PC. If you've got the JunOS package, make the LS120 image, get an intel based pc with an LS120 drive. The image should just boot. Regards, --phil On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, KY wrote: All, Any of you ever had luck on porting Junipe

Re: Juniper on FreeBSD [7:1303]

2001-04-20 Thread KY
Phil, Thanks for the infor. I am trying to download the JunOS from our internal company website. I just want to verify if I will have to make it LS120 image. As I don't have LS120 handy, but I do have some spare hard drives. I wonder if it can boot from LS120, should it be bootable from normal ha

Re: Juniper on FreeBSD [7:1303]

2001-04-28 Thread Jason
Did anybody ever got this working ? I would like to know your experience. Thks. ""KY"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Phil, > > Thanks for the infor. > I am trying to download the JunOS from our internal company website. I just > want to verify if I will have to

RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Mohammad Tariq
Use show command in juniper which is equivalent to show run and u can use the monitor command in junos to monitor the ICMP packet. Thanks and warm regards. Muhammad Tariq -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc-Andre Giroux Sent: Monday, May

RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Marc-Andre Giroux
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398] Use show command in juniper which is equivalent to show run and u can use the monitor command in junos to monitor the ICMP packet. Thanks and warm regards. Muhammad Tariq -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Bosio Stefano
inline Stefano > -Original Message- > From: Marc-Andre Giroux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: lunedl 14 maggio 2001 14.19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Juniper technical question [7:4398] > > > 2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a "show run" in the > Junos worl

Re: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Sean Young
show run = show configuration debug packet icmp = monitor Good luck Sean "Juniper makes Cisco looks like child's play" >From: "Marc-Andre Giroux" >Reply-To: "Marc-Andre Giroux" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Juniper technical question [7:4398] >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:19:19 -0400 > >2

RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Mohammad Tariq
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc-Andre Giroux Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398] the run monitor command will let me see the number of packets sent thru the interfaes but I am trying to debug the icmp packets. As for

Re: cisco like microsoft? (was Re: Juniper

2001-02-27 Thread ramius
I don't get where the "bitter" in the competition comes from. That's business. The major difference between Cisco and Microsoft is what is done with the aqusitions afterwards. Microsoft uses the "you will be assimilated" strategy, changing the ways that the bought companies work to conform to Micr

Re: cisco like microsoft? (was Re: Juniper

2001-02-27 Thread anthony kim
BTW, I love the monikers on this list. Anyhow, my impression comes from sales in our discussion of relative merits of Foundry and Extreme's offerings. Instead of offering insight, I was deluged with FUD. What I was looking for was why an end-to-end cisco solution was a better fit. YMMV, of cours

Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957]

2001-05-18 Thread Peter Van Oene
JunOS is only intended for use with Juniper routers. The olive was a testing device that has long since been retired and is not supported in any sense by Juniper. Peter *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 5/18/2001 at 4:55 AM Valeri Marinski wrote: >Hi Group! >People are talking pret

Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957]

2001-05-18 Thread KY
Peter, People looking for Olive donot expect any support from Juniper in any sense. I remember some guys on the list use LS120 on FreeBSD to boot JunOS, I never tried it myself. KY ""Peter Van Oene"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > JunOS is only intended for use

Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957]

2001-05-18 Thread Sean Young
nd jkernel version 4.4 on Olive by upgrading the kernel and base. Since the newbies are learning on their own, you don't have to worry about us bothering Juniper (or yourself) for support. Just my .02c. Sean >From: "Peter Van Oene" >Reply-To: "Peter Van Oene" >To:

Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957]

2001-05-18 Thread Adam Hickey
n you do criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. - Original Message - From: "KY" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957] > Peter, > > People looking for Olive donot expect any support from Junip

Re: Juniper CERTS and Olive [7:4957]

2001-05-18 Thread John Starta
Adam, Earlier this year I asked Juniper directly whether they had plans to make the olive software readily available. Below is the response I received: No, we are not. The olive software load was originally intended for testing the software before we had the hardware up and running. It

RE: Juniper or Cisco Certification?? [7:9987]

2001-06-26 Thread Daniel Cotts
My opinion is that you will have to devote all you time for study to pass either exam. I don't think it is a choice of both - but either/or. Talk to you Supervisor. Ask if you are more valuable to Juniper as a CCIE who can integrate Juniper with Cisco. If so, go for the CCIE lab. If not, concentra

RE: JUNIPER TO BUY CISCO!!!!!!!! [7:40056]

2002-04-01 Thread B Rudy
APRIL FOOLS GUYS!!! =0) B Rudy wrote: > > JUNIPER IS MAKING A BID TO PURCHASE CISCO SYSTEMS THE COMPANY > WILL EVENTUALLY BE CALLED JUNICO!!! PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS > > > RUDY B Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=40058&t=40056 ---

Re: JUNIPER TO BUY CISCO!!!!!!!! [7:40056]

2002-04-01 Thread
April Fools!! >From: "B Rudy" >Reply-To: "B Rudy" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: JUNIPER TO BUY CISCO [7:40056] >Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:27:28 -0500 > >JUNIPER IS MAKING A BID TO PURCHASE CISCO SYSTEMS THE COMPANY WILL >EVENTUALLY BE CALLED JUNICO!!! PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS > > >

Re: JUNIPER TO BUY CISCO!!!!!!!! [7:40056]

2002-04-01 Thread Chuck
perhaps a better name would be "cissi-fer"( sissy fur ) anyone any good at anagrams. maybe among the combined letter of cisco and juniper there is some good pun or other. ""B Rudy"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > JUNIPER IS MAKING A BID TO PURCHASE CISCO SY

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