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though I'm a fairly geeky guy, even *I* don't understand what I'm
doing half the time on it. If we want users to report bugs in a
meaningful way, I really do think we have to make it easier for them.
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rtant to my office) that's supposed to be fixed in that version,
but I haven't been able to find a link to even a nightly that contains
those fixes to test them.
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OOo doesn't? I got SO8
when it was offered as part of the Google pack, and I couldn't really
find anything. (But maybe it's just stuff I would never use . . . )
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That's always been one of my pet peeves; if I
want to print a table, I have to export it to Calc or something
instead of just hitting PRINT.)
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o be a misunderstanding: Theo is not entitled
> to use or manipulate our logo as he has done nor is he entitled claim
> that he is in partnership with OpenOffice.org, whatever that would mean.
So this is a real product?
I thought it was a joke.
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ven read it when it's opened again. (One of
my few complaints about OOo.)
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for them. (Our internal files are all saved
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It's all about knowing your audience.
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t, and to just "merge until you
run out of records, adding new pages as necessary". There might be a
way to do it, but it's far from obvious.
I don't see OCR as something that's really a core component of an
office suite. I do a lot of OCR input, but I prefer to use an
app
an update for it on any of the OpenSuse
depositories?
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The download page of the OOo site
(http://download.openoffice.org/index.html) seems to be broken this
morning. Clicking on the links results in no response. Tried multiple
times with multiple browsers and no joy. Even rebooted.
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petitors in this space,
> particularly OpenOffice and MySQL."
I think you should apply!
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sell it along with a
support contract, in which case the "product" being offered is actually
the support, and not the software.
But, again, that's just a suggestion. Overall, I think it's fine and
quite useful.
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> OOo is better to spell than OO.o.
>
> It is also easier to type...
Plus, sentences look kinda funny when they end with OO.o.
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> I knew there had to be a better discussion group for it, but I
> didn't know where it was. Like I said, posted to the Marketing
> group (of which I'm already a member) out of desperation.
Crap. Meant to se
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> Steven Shelton schrieb:
>> This is way off-topic, but I know we've got some hard-core users of the
>> software here and I can't seem to find anyone in my neck of the woods
>>
opic post. It's an urgent matter or
else I wouldn't even consider posting a request for help on this list.
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>> instant sense to people who have never heard of the product (without
>> requiring any kind of explanation). So, whatever we replace it with, it
>> has to meet those criteria.
So as a starting point:
"Open up."
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requiring any kind of explanation). So, whatever we replace it with, it
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> In the vein of MacUser, Linux User, etc. magazine: OpenOffice.org User
I like that one a lot, actually.
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Hi; I had a major problem converting my old WordPerfect document of about 33
pages to PDF. In desperation I downloaded OpenOffice. For some years I had
been advising others to get it but I was fairly happy with WordPerfect. No
longer so.
I am VERY impressed with y
r that you got taken in. From now on,
your best bet is to just download the product directly (and for free!)
from www.OpenOffice.org
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tive about another company in such a way
that the other company could make some lame claim that the OOo community
was tarnishing its "good name".
I *am* a lawyer, you know. I think about these things.
*grumbles* Damn lawyers... *grumbles*
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7;ve moved the Mac / NeoOffice
information to a seperate box. I've moved a lot of information into
pop-down boxes. This makes the overall page smaller. I've even added
explanatory verbage to the donation button.
Looks very nice. Jolly good!
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" and not "THIS IS BULLSHIT!"
I have no idea who eric is. But I think you'll see that I've already
disagreed with a lot of his criticism of your site. Nevertheless, you do
have some potential liability here that you might want to avoid.
Honestly, Chad, you seem to be crea
the look (maybe just changing the colours would be enough) and for your
own sake, do something about that "Make a Donation" button because you
could get yourself into some huge, huge problems with that thing and I
don't want to see your emails with an "@DeptOfCorrections.gov"
that do not format correctly;
they all default back to Courier if saved in Word format (although
they seem to retain their attributes in most other formats as far as I
can determine).
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nt to help Microsoft" or "Help Microsoft in its battle against
software piracy" or "Software piracy is illegal, and it's wrong" spelled
out more explicitely (instead of just the button).
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to do
something to make things right with the customer. If they refuse or
simply don't respond, delisting might be appropriate. If a company is
using underhanded tactics, they shouldn't be promoted by the OOo
project. It taints everyone.
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olerate further competition
and lock-in below that line. Innovation above that line is desirable -
expected, even - but attempts to force upgrade, lock out competition,
control my own use of my own data, are all now unacceptable. We have
the tools of freedom in our hands. Time to use them.
W
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
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Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Along the lines of the "What's the roadmap because we want to spread
accurate information" query, I remember a year or two ago when this
to
e PIM/email client. IIRC, Mozilla's license
would allow this to be done. No need to reinvent the wheel; just get it
from a different supplier of wheels.
Any thoughts on this? I mean, it's such a simple solution that someone
else must have come up with this before, so there must be a r
OOo has nothing to do with it?
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circumstances. But rest assured: the myth was that a person was killed
by this explosion, which they determined is impossible.
Ain't TV grand?
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cam artists
of this ilk all the time and they always have fake info on their
websites), we should have someone from the project (preferably in Texas)
file a complaint with the Texas Attorney General.
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Actually, all of this is spelled out in the style manual, which is
available in the Art Project pages.
I can't find it. Do you have a link?
I thought it was linked from the main Art Project page, but apparently
it's not. Ooops!
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final decision; I think it was Bitstream Vera Sans condensed to
something like 78%, but that's just off the top of my head; the actual
specs are in the style manual.)
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I'd also like to see some upgrade information on the installation (or
even download) page. For instance, can I just install the new version
over 2.0.1, or do I need to uninstall/reinstall?
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nt." Yeah, I suppose it's true that you can just install the
modules you want, but as you said: there's not much point, because you
save little if any hard drive space.
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seperate application modules; when you
install OOo, you inherently install Calc, Base, Writer, Draw, Impress,
and everything else.
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:-D
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all one integrated suite, and you can't just download (for instance) the
spreadsheet without also getting Base, Impress, etc.
*deposits two pennies*
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my
OOo addiction. Soon, I hope, I will be able to do more than just sit on
the sidelines. (I may try tweaking the style guide again.)
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the volunteer beast that it's been slow to work its way onto the site.
(It should also be on the splash screen, etc. in my opinion. Something
that could be done as part of the next "microupdate.")
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tioner is "Open. For Business." and
not "It is the standard."
One of those guidelines we were talking about earlier. :-)
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nature of human beings, hein?)
There was a lot of discussion of that, and that was the inspiration for
the "Open. For Business." positioner. The idea is to promote the
maturity, reliability, and fea
ect to see a return on that
investment on their own terms and timescale.
I think that what he was saying is that it's free to the company that
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d the person responsible for it if that is needed.
That's fine. The "open" on "OpenOffice.org" refers to the fact that it's
open source with a very open license. He could even rebrand it and sell
it himself if he wanted to do so.
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at this point, even if they were true. (And, to be honest, I couldn't
care less if they are or not.)
So grow up, take it off list, and stop spamming me with this crap.
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ciated with the project from time to time.
Nevertheless, I'm not 100% sure I'd vote to change the name at this
point just because it's already established. (Not that a vote is
actually imminent, or even a possibility.) I hate name changes. The
Mozilla project has driven me ma
s was a brilliant move because, as I
said a bit ago, a major source of resistance to change is the fear of
having to learn something new. OpenOffice.org really needs to have an
option that allows existing MS Office users to have their menus,
shortcuts, etc. completely replicate MS Office. Yes, MS O
org can be distributed in any way one likes,
including sales. Any software licensed under what's known as the "GPL"
or "LGPL" can be repackaged and redistributed in just the way you
described. Most likely, there's no offense here. But we do appreciate
you looking
areWeb is Firefox,
Thunderbird, and Nvu, and that "ComparePublish" is Scribus. What is
"Gizmo Phone"?
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[snip]
I'd like to end the voting next Thursday - and with many people
joining in the vote we'll get a result that can be recommended as
"official" positioner for OpenOffice.org 2.0
Oops! didn't see this!
My votes remain the
l, but if they do actually follow through, then I say
good for them and I'll have to give them some props for doing the right
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en standard." It's
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I agree, an open format, especially an XML based one, *Should* be more
accessible - but, it's not. JAWS reevents itself with each edition of MS
Office, because *that* is what most people use.
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r platform."
*shrug*
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Hard work has a future payof
the business community, it is still
widely used and probably holds the dominant position. I don't see why a
developer who is already creating a citation system that only runs in
Windows wouldn't want to develop a citation app for the Windows version
of OOo.
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Here comes the marketing slogan!"), so make sure you pay attention to
what they say before you link them. (The "Here comes the marketing
slogan!" buttons should be modified to include an actual positioner.)
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Sam Hiser wrote:
Congratulations to everyone for a fine 2.0 launch!
-Sam
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Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Steven Shelton wrote:
I saw this on Jean Hollis Weber's blog at O'Reilly and I referenced
it in my blog (although I couldn't trackback to it because I couldn't
find a trackback URL on her page).
What's a trackback URL?
A trackback
Chad Smith wrote:
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Steven Shelton wrote:
I saw this on Jean Hollis Weber's blog at O'Reilly and I referenced it
in my blog (although I couldn't trackback to it because I couldn't find
a trackback URL
k to it because I couldn't find
a trackback URL on her page). This is very cool, although I'm sure
Microsoft will say "these aren't signatures from our customers; these
are people who have no intention of buying our product." Any excuse, any
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ociation
for Competitive Technology and 60Plus Association.
"Mr. Prendergast's affiliation with Microsoft should have been stated
clearly in the article."
On the other hand, we should have expected him to have an agenda the
moment his column appeared. After all, it *is* Fox News
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have local ministerial alliances where lots of churches from different
denominations get together. There are tons of places where NFP managers
and directors go to get training and learn from each other. The best
approach, I think, would be to get the message out through pre
)
I like that, too. :-)
AND PEOPLE, IT'S "SHELTON"! WITH A FRICKIN' "T"!!!
*maniacal laugh*
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My votes would be:
3 - Open. For business.
3 - The New Office Suite Standard
1 - Free Your Files [Although I have a concern that this might already
be used by soemone]
1 - Upgrade to Open Standards
1 - Upgrade to Data Freedom
1 - Give Freedom a 2.0nd Chance
Just
My votes would be:
3 - Open. For business.
3 - The New Office Suite Standard
1 - Free Your Files [Although I have a concern that this might already
be used by soemone]
1 - Upgrade to Open Standards
1 - Upgrade to Data Freedom
1 - Give Freedom a 2.0nd Chance
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your Office." (A, B, C, D)
"The New Office Suite Standard" (A, D, E)
"Free. In every sense." (A, C, F)
"Today's Office. Tomorrow's Standard." (A, B, D)
"Open Doors. Open Source. OpenOffice.org" (A, C, E)
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collected, but my suggestions would be:
"Open. For business."
"Your company. Your data. Your Office."
"Compatible with your Office."
"The New Office Suite Standard"
"Free. In every sense."
"Today's Office. Tomorrow's Standard.&q
The better course might be for the NL projects to each come up with a
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The latest survey shows that 3 out of 4 people make
like
"McDonalds - I'm loving it"
That's exactly what it is. It's sometimes referred to as a "slogan", but
the proper term is "positioner" because it's intended to carve out the
product's position in the market.
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Bernhard Dippold wrote:
I'd propose to collect possible phrases in the next three or four days
and then to vote for the best. The result could be integrated in the
Style Guide and decided upon by the Community Council during the OOoCon
at Koper.
Where would you like the ideas sent?
S
e problems as
both innevitable and re-curring.
Of course, just to play devil's advocate, OOo underwent some fairly
significant menu and functionality changes between v 1 and v 2....
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This is something that mainstream people (not just us "geek" types) can
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s: we have more than one set of eyes looking it
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s often as not gets
published without any changes at all.
Of course, a lot of this depends on the outlet you're sending it to, as
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I get this a lot, myself. The impression really comes off as being
one that open source supporters are so partisan about anything
anti-Microsoft that they are blind to some of the real advantages
offered by some Microsoft
objectivity, and without objectivity there is no credibility.
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ut I think there is case to be made for something like this to be
done in collaboration with Sun so that the certification would cover
both SO 8 and OOo 2.0
Again, brilliant. And, to be honest, it also helps people overcome the
skepticism that "something free can't be any good."
think) they assume the kids will crash
the whole thing anyway. The hope is that when the kids get used to it,
they'll convert the parents.
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Steven Shelton
Twilight Media & Design
www.TwilightMD.com
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Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situati
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Office/Internet Explorer.
I would be interested to know what you think about this. Thanks,
I think this is already going on, isn't it? I know there's been some
collaboration between the two projects.
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Steven Shelton
Twilight Media & Design
www.TwilightMD.com
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