compared the audio quality from a Squeezebox and Sonos
device it would be very interesting to hear the result. It feels like
sometimes we just assume that Squeezebox sounds better, but is it
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misunderstood something,
but this is how I've interpreted it when reading on the Sonos forum.
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Seems like others have had similar issue, there is an instruction how
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slippyr4;644347 Wrote:
I can't see this as good news for those of us wanting new models of
squeezebox. If logitech aren't doing well, then the chances of a new
model coming out soon don't seem that great to me :(
What kind of Squeezebox model are you waiting for ?
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responsible for the Squeezebox products.
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built-in TinySBS)
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and Harmony improvements instead :-)
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-d402aaac73a2filename=Logitech%20Announces%20Q1%20FY%202012%20Results%20FINAL-Financials%20(1).pdf
But maybe I'm interpreting something wrong.
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I think I'll choose to look at this as something possitive, because as
pippin said earlier in the thread, it will be hard for them to make it
worse than it already is.
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is CEO for Sonos ?
I bet there are a lot of guesses also about Apple and Sonos future
products, just not on this forum.
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, this isn't they case for the Harmony remotes, they are already
in an established market and they have both fairly cheap and more
expensive models.
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is reading this, for anyone using
the Touch without a local SBS on a computer I'm not even sure it will
work reliably to downgrade to 7.5.x. I suspect it will connect to
mysqueezebox.com and try to upgrade every time the Touch is started or
the USB drive is disconnected/unavailable.
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positive in one way or another.
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with respect to the iPhone's so-called antenna problem. There were
pretty conclusive demonstrations by Apple and third parties that just
about any phone can be held in such a way to block parts
has been more expensive than the a Harmony remote which can solve
all the needs.
Maybe the $99 Revue with included IR-blasters could be an option, if
Logitech would sell it outside US.
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, digital music doesn't have to mean Squeezebox.
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release new apps now and
then, for example the Orange Liveradio app was released last week
together with the 7.6 release.
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been solved in latest nightly build.
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and what isn't
working to make sure Logitech solves it as you like.
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Could you give an example of log messages you see in the log which you
would like not to be logged ?
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fuzzyT;646320 Wrote:
I'd *really* like to see a MOG app. I like the MOG service better than
Spotify and would love to have it on my Squeezeboxes.
Have you voted on the enhancement request regarding it ?
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16626
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fuzzyT;646338 Wrote:
Voted on it?? I wrote it!!
other voters welcome.
Sorry, I didn't realize that.
I guess you know that you can vote on your own enhancement requests to
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? If not, what are the
issues you are having on the firmware side ? I thought it was mainly
SBS that had a lot of bug and the firmware itself was in pretty good
shape.
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, I've probably missed a lot of advantages/disadvantages of
both platforms, so anyone that sees something that's missing or
incorrect, please correct me.
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to pay for downloaded files and the music
industry could overcome their fear for piracy the physical media could
become obsolete a lot faster, but this process seems to go very slow so
I don't think it will disappear anytime soon.
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? Is it only the sorting
possibilities that differs compared to Squeezebox ?
Have you compared the audio quality between Squeezebox and Sonos ?
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about how to find open and solved 7.6.0 bugs and how to register new
ones if your problem isn't already registered:
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?
Don't they do some kind of scanning when you add a SMB folder to the
library ?
https://sonos.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/sonos.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=261
Sounds kind of similar to how SBS works.
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to make their customers get some
benefits from their investments in HiFi hardware.
Sonos is going to continue to be Sonos, easy to use but rather closed
if you like to integrate with it.
It's hard to know what Logitech is going to do, your guess is as good
as mine.
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I also saw this last week where music streaming at least is mentioned
as something they like to improve (together with everything else):
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/07/29/logitech-regains-guerrino-de-luca-as-ceo/
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If neither of the above is the case, you can always look in SBS
Settings/Information to find the location of the Cache folder, then
shutdown SBS, delete the squeezebox.db and squeezebox-persistent.db
files in the Cache folder and then startup SBS again.
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to the
bug report.
Add a link to the bug report in this thread so we know which one
belongs to this problem.
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of 769) Running 00:00:27
Live At Gerdes Folk City, NYC (9/30/82 Late Show)
When are they going to fix this???
Any errors in scanner.log ?
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in the scanner.log (not server.log) ?
Maybe you can attach the last 1000 lines of the scanner.log to a forum
post ?
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Inside which menu do you hit play all songs ?
Do you approximately know how many songs it tries to play ?
Which Squeezebox Server version are you using ?
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--it did
not! Also, hangs if I rescan and requires me to reinstall
Squeezeserver--
Can you try to enable debug logging on scanning in SBS
Settings/Advanced/Logging and perform a rescan and then look in the
scanner.log to see if it provides some more information about what's
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I think it was fixed in 7.6.0, so installing 7.6.1 (when you dare) will
probably solve this:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16188
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to.
If you didn't get a support id or yours isn't listed, I'd just register
a new bug.
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to verify it's slower with real testing
as far as I know, except from the issue some people currently have with
the 7.6 scanner the 7.6 release seems to be generally faster than 7.5.
So I wouldn't worry to much about this, SQLite is a lot better today
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Both 7.6.0 and 7.6.1 works great in my setup.
I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 and have a rather small FLAC only library with no
playlists, album covers as separate cover/folder.jpg files, not embedded
into the FLAC files.
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/support and the support staff will help you
register it
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this happens. Could
this be what you are seeing ?
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ANALYZE(SQLite) or OPTIMIZE TABLE(MySQL) at
the end of a full rescan and after every 100 tracks in a new/changed
scan.
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to do a comparison myself based on the specifications a few
days back in this post:
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(But I have no real world experience of Sonos, so I'm not sure if I'm
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and configuration files into a zip and made it easy to attach with bug
reports a few years back but I decided to not do it at that time.
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make sure to register a bug report and attach that file to the bug.
You can enable more logging by going to SBS Settings/Advanced/Logging
and changing one or several of the following log points to debug:
- scan
- artwork
- scan.import
- scan.scanner
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, it's probably recommended to set it to
High.
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Try the latest 7.6.1 nightly, there are some bugs related to missing
music that has been corrected in it. Not sure if it solves your problem
but if it isn't it would be good if you try it so we can find out what's
causing it in your setup.
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and the rest is
trashed, then a new and changed will pick up the rest.
Yes and I think that's a bug that has been fixed in 7.6.1, so if people
are seeing the same thing also in 7.6.1 it's important that we get more
information so we can find the cause.
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understand:
http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?p=135291#post135291
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environment, so it's not
going to be 100% accurate and comparable with a real environment.
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tests on Windows, Linux or OSX ? I'm guessing it's
Windows ?
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a lot of problems have been corrected
?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.6
If 7.6.1 doesn't solve it, have you looked in the scanner.log file to
see if there are any errors ? (You will find its location in SBS
Settings/Advanced/Logging)
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(mherger) and ask him to make sure someone inside Logitech
checks it, but it worked a few days ago for some other user so I
suspect it's just that it's caught by some anti spam software on the
way. Michael might notice this thread and check it anyway if we just
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mail just disappeared and I wondered why. I no longer use that mail
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register it
with a temporary e-mail address, but you won't be able to change it
unless you can also confirm the new address.
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of the pre-caching phase seems to vary a lot between different
test runs, not sure exactly why, but it varies between 2-6 minutes in
time in my tests with exactly same configuration, the variation happens
both with SQLite and MySQL so it doesn't seem to be database engine
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SBS?
It is, Andy changed it in 7.6.1 r33004
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because of scanner
issues.
How you describe it is how it worked in 7.6.1 last time I checked and
I'm guessing it's still the case unless Michael has changed something
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It is probably connected to mysqueezbox.com, maybe because your computer
has been powered off or it lost the contact with it.
Hold left arrow on IR remote a few seconds to cancel the firmware
upgrade and then goto My Music/Artists so it connects to your local
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on the
laptop so I could try how it looks in both Ubuntu and Vista on the same
hardware but I'm not sure that's worth anything as I think Windows Vista
is generally considered to be a lot slower than both XP and Windows 7
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erland;648454 Wrote:
Maybe it could be the CPU ?
My virtual machine only have access to one of the CPU cores and I'm
guessing you have a multi core CPU which probably is an advantage with
MySQL both since it runs in a separate process and also because it's
probably more optimized
If you post the complete error message in scanner.log it's a bit easier
to help.
Also combine this with how the corresponding line in the playlist file
looks like if you open it with a text editor.
And check if the path in the playlist file matches where the physical
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two
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iPeng/SqueezePad/Logitech Controller as any other Squeezebox and the
UPnP support in LMS isn't even needed to make it work ?
If I've understood it correctly the Google TV platform will also get
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it be possible to
configure SBS to decode FLAC to WAV on the server side or something
similar to make it work ?
Or is Google in the process of making x86 work properly so it's just a
matter of waiting a few weeks/months ?
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paul44birch;648916 Wrote:
Hi erland
Not sure how I do these things ie 'post the complete error message in
scanner.log' and 'combine this with how the corresponding line in the
playlist file looks like if you open it with a text editor'. I can
confirm that the path in the playlist file
Squeezebox
models via SSH.
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for the end users, it usually means that we get more options and
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account you need to pay for it and that's
possible to do already today even without invites. An invite will not
give you a premium account, it will just give you the possibility to
listen to Spotify on a computer.
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manatlan;652946 Wrote:
In all big communities (minecraft, python, ...), there is always, at
least, one website/blogs which keep people in touch, by posting news
about the object ...
(example : SBS 7.6.1 was released yesterday, erland has released a
wonderful applet, the future SBS 8
Blisteringblue;654713 Wrote:
Another joining the MusicIP mixing late but since I've lost the Custom
Skip for now until Erland updates to 7.6.1 I thought I would have a
play.
Have I missed something, doesn't Custom Skip work in 7.6.1 ?
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concerned about Philips long term commitment to
their music streaming devices, just because they release new hardware
now doesn't mean they plan to support and continuously enhance the
software for that hardware 3 years in the future.
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The issue is just that without Logitech it will get harder to expand
the system to more rooms, but at the moment I'm out of rooms to put
them in, so for me personally it's not an issue yet.
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was officially released. My feeling is that the pure Logitech product
will be the one coming after the Touch, not sure if that's going to be
the Revue or something else we haven't seen yet.
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We have now worked on the topic discussion in this thread for some time
and the current efforts has now been released to the public, see the
following announcement thread for more information:
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sts78;661891 Wrote:
@erland:
Is there any way to create a parameter for the xml menus to hide this
play all on the concerning menu level? Maybe like
...
With this you could create CB menus like
Genre [no play all] - Artist [no play all] - Albums [play all] -
Tracks [play all
either in this
thread or in other places or by donating or purchasing licenses, I
wouldn't be here if it weren't for all your nice words and
encouragement in the past.
Now, let's focus the time on making the Squeezebox continue being the
best music listening system also in the future.
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can you guarantee works with the latest music
services 5 years in the future ?
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(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you
would likely stop any
hardware manufacturer that tried to develop their own hardware to use
MySb.com ?
In SqueezePad/SqueezePlayer they probably accept it as they are made by
an innocent intermediate vendor (like yourself) instead of Apple, Google
or an Android manufacturer.
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but if they block controllers also
it's really bad.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future
Squeezeboxes,
they will need to maintain and support mysqueezebox.com for at least
1-2 years after that, else they will somehow have to handle the fact
that they recently have sold players to customers that no longer works
even if they are still under warranty.
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is to reach the other 90% which
are required to make a profit.
I personally suspect the profit has to come from hardware sales, pretty
much in similar fashion as Logitech handles it at the moment.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many
agree, but it's important to notice that most of
Squeezebox Server has been written by people on Slim Devices or
Logitech's payroll, so open source doesn't mean that it doesn't cost
anything, it just means that it's easier to get small contributions
from external resources.
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a central service like mysqueezebox.com, actually I would be
surprised if Logitech isn't financing mysqueezebox.com at least partly
this way already now.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http
worlds.
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erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
and/or third party
different. My local electronics super
market actually have Squeezeboxes on the shelf so you can touch and
feel them, unfortunately the environment isn't really suitable for
listening so there is no way to hear what sounds good and bad, but at
least they look nice on the shelf.
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of their advanced products.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
back when their support
organization wasn't aware of the competence needed and the competence
available in the community.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php
in Squeezebox and Apple ecosystem.
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Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
to even include a playlist based on
this template by default ?
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erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like
with the web interface.
It's a limitation, I plan to make it configurable in a future TrackStat
version.
If it's urgent, a workaround is available here but it requires you to
manually edit the prefs file:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=652282#post652282
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Erland Isaksson ('My
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