[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey New, > > > > > Good post Curtis. Actually great. I appreciate your POV. > > Thanks. It is really nice that you ask for my POV here. > > > > > Several questions: > > > > Why atheism and not agnosticism? >

[FairfieldLife] Does TM do any Harm? Revised page on TruthAboutTM.com

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:00 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Does TM do any Harm? Revised page on TruthAboutTM.com Dear Colleagues, This page reviews all the research claiming that practice of the TM program may cause harm.

[FairfieldLife] No Effects Studies page on TruthAboutTM.com

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:38 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: No Effects Studies page on TruthAboutTM.com Dear Colleagues, This is the last one for a while. Tomorrow morning we are leaving for Fairfield for a month of long medi

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from > where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so > spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I pick this sustenance >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Besides that, > everything is just an opinion. I have this opinion, you have that > opinion, fine, I have thought this, you have thought that, okay. I > don't really feel it matters so much. Yes, probably. Perhaps no. Know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Key to Peace in Iraq

2007-10-17 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/17/07 2:29:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The United States should NOT take on the role of being the benefactor > for the government of Iraq ad infinitum. The USA shou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting video on Ajna chakra.

2007-10-17 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
This is a splendid find, thank you, Billy. On 10/17/07, BillyG. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In this teaching Cosmic Consciousness is synonymous with MMY's Unity > Consciousness. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9cSuXLlOtA&mode=related&search=India%20Meditation%20Guru%20Yoga%20Enlighten

[FairfieldLife] World's First Microlending Website Accelerates Global Lending Movement

2007-10-17 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
*World's First Microlending Website Accelerates Global Lending Movement* *October 17, 2007* *Kiva.org : One of the Fastest-Growing Non-Profits in History Marks Second Year of Exponential Growth* >From increasing its total loan portfolio to more than $13 million to reach 20,000

[FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with my apology to chris

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] World War III?

2007-10-17 Thread John
To All Members: Will Bush take us to another war before he leaves office? Please, see the article below: Bush: Threat of World War III if Iran goes nuclear By Matt Spetalnick Wed Oct 17, 2:33 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed I

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Forget about 'Enlightenment'

2007-10-17 Thread off_world_beings
I came to FFL tonight looking for something , and this guy tells me not to look for something. Cool. I like this guy, he seems authentic. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HYPERLINK > "http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=0pS_wPeDxDQ"http://w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Two questions for 'mainstream20016' (Was: more meditating school info...)

2007-10-17 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > All directly involved are tip-toeing through the elephants

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Forget about 'Enlightenment'

2007-10-17 Thread pranamoocher
Thanks, Rick. Fantastic video and interesting speaker. I could actually relate to what he was saying; he seems more of an enlightened peer than a master-on-a-pedestal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > HYPERLINK > "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread biosoundbill
The Yoga of Sound by Russill Paul Google Tantric Deity Bija Mantras Shakti yoga It's the last result on page 1 - The Yoga of Sound: Healing & Enlightenment Through the Sacred ... - Google Books Result Read from p91 to 97 Namaste, Billy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is really, rally great. Thanks Edg Ditto! > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Here's how I experience God. > > > > A closing of the inner eye. Then WHAM God speaks. > > > >

RE: *****SPAM***** [FairfieldLife] Question for the group

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Question for the group Thanks, Rick. What's with the *SPAM* in the title? That end

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from > where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so > spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I pick this sustenance

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread Bhairitu
biosoundbill wrote: > I'm no longer involved with the TM movement, but I still have lots > of friends that are still in it. I was at a TM party recently, and > clearly felt that most of them can't think for themselves, and are > very ungrounded! > > I often wonder if this is because of all those

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Marek you really combined our divergent perspective, well done! I will always be fascinated by religious symbols and you presented one of the possible reasons why. If they are symbols,archetypes of our consciousness, they should have a profound effect when we dwell on them, even emotionally. I a

Re: *****SPAM***** [FairfieldLife] Question for the group

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of do.rflex > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:04 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Question

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, What part of "Even the silence is given to me" didn't you understand? What's being given is ALL THIS. God does not stint. Even the worst person is an utterly clean canvas for His art, and He never paints anything less than a masterpiece. Right now, the "experience of being you" is like

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread biosoundbill
I'm no longer involved with the TM movement, but I still have lots of friends that are still in it. I was at a TM party recently, and clearly felt that most of them can't think for themselves, and are very ungrounded! I often wonder if this is because of all those years of meditating on a pure

RE: *****SPAM***** [FairfieldLife] Question for the group

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: *SPAM* [FairfieldLife] Question for the group Do any of you know what Brahmachari Satyanand is currently doing and w

[FairfieldLife] Question for the group

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
Do any of you know what Brahmachari Satyanand is currently doing and where his is? Thank you...

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from > where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so > spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I p

[FairfieldLife] Two questions for 'mainstream20016' (Was: more meditating school info...)

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: [snip] > > > All directly involved are tip-toeing through the elephants to avoid stirring up third-party opposition to public recognition of TM's good

[FairfieldLife] Re: My God

2007-10-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
"I've never authored a single thought. As if. Every thought comes from where I know not of. Suddenly just there. Impossibly there, and so spendable, so vital. Manna pure and simple, I pick this sustenance up off the ground-state. We're all wandering Jews, eh?" Here you are being honest, you don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > biosoundbill wrote: > > Thanks Bhairitu, > > > > I guess at the end of the day learning TM is a very good way of > > learning to meditate effortlessly. It has certainly become a big > > business, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A question of net etiquette has arisen. Any comments as to how to end contribution to a > topic? t3rinity wrote "I'm out of here" Actually I wrote 'I'm out on THIS' > and Barry wrote the above response. Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/16/07 1:47:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I know several folks/families who live off the grid and use solar. > Once I house sat for a couple in their 2500 square foot l

[FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with my apology to chris

2007-10-17 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <> > The TM technique's current irrelevance is due to the now overtly- religious TMO. The SIMS > period through 1975 saw TM taught as a secular technique, and incredibly wide > acceptance. Since the Sidhi program instruction in 1976, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread Bhairitu
biosoundbill wrote: > Thanks Bhairitu, > > I guess at the end of the day learning TM is a very good way of > learning to meditate effortlessly. It has certainly become a big > business, and one is never quite sure as to whether MMY's motives > are noble or otherwise! > Once one has the technique

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread biosoundbill
Thanks Bhairitu, I guess at the end of the day learning TM is a very good way of learning to meditate effortlessly. It has certainly become a big business, and one is never quite sure as to whether MMY's motives are noble or otherwise! Once one has the technique, it makes sense to me that one s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread Bhairitu
biosoundbill wrote: > Hi Bhairitu, > > As far As the `M' and `NG' endings go, I don't really know which > ones are the most powerful. > My TM mantra ends in `NG,' but I know lots of people who were > given `M' ending mantras. I often feel that MMY used both just to > make up a bigger pool of man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > I honestly think that a lot of the bottom line > > > of why some people > > > > I'

[FairfieldLife] Interesting video on Ajna chakra.

2007-10-17 Thread BillyG.
In this teaching Cosmic Consciousness is synonymous with MMY's Unity Consciousness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9cSuXLlOtA&mode=related&search=India%20Meditation%20Guru%20Yoga%20Enlightenment%20Samadhi%20Nirvana%20Buddha%20Babaji%20Kriya%20Hamsa%20Surya%20Yogiraj%20Siddhanath%20Yogi%20Master

[FairfieldLife] YouTube - Forget about 'Enlightenment'

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
HYPERLINK "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pS_wPeDxDQ"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0 pS_wPeDxDQ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM

[FairfieldLife] New page on mental health on TruthAboutTM.com

2007-10-17 Thread Rick Archer
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:02 AM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: new page on mental health on TruthAboutTM.com Dear Colleagues, I just posted a new page on TruthAboutTM.com on the TM techniques effects on mental health. Here is a

[FairfieldLife] Madhusudana S. on Samyama (Re: Interesting translation of III 38)

2007-10-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Prasankhyana is the dicrimination between purusha and prakriti, it is also a source of the > name of the Sankhya system (a prerequisite for the yoga-sutra). > Perhaps, but in my understanding, from the linguistic P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > I honestly think that a lot of the bottom line > > of why some people > > I'm out on this I'm going to spend my next-to-last post of this week asking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Excellent post Turq, very Camus of you! I also sing the praises of a non-teleological universe. Human freedom is so precious. Despite the influences of our past choices and thought patterns influencing my decisions, I do try to break out of old patterns when I can be conscious enough to do so.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Key to Peace in Iraq

2007-10-17 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/17/07 2:29:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The United States should NOT take on the role of being the benefactor for the government of Iraq ad infinitum. The USA should let the Iraqi develop their own destiny as an independent nation. Peace n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/16/07 9:57:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And speaking of global warming, remember that the IPCC said that the #1 cause of global warming was not "tailpipes" (your term from below) but "cowpipes": farting and belching from livestock. If peo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/16/07 1:57:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the cost of the Iraq war, America with its 10,000 small towns, could have spent $50,000,000 in each one to set up solar, hydrogen, biofuel stations or windfarms. 50 million bucks for Fairfield alo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/16/07 1:47:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know several folks/families who live off the grid and use solar. Once I house sat for a couple in their 2500 square foot log home and they had a huge capacity washer/dryer, ac, appliances, lights,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 10/16/07 1:40:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree, and would like to add that it’s a shame we’re spending billions on a war in a dubious attempt to safeguard our supply of oil when that same money, if put into alternative energy R&D, could f

[FairfieldLife] Re: The good things TM gave us

2007-10-17 Thread biosoundbill
Hi Bhairitu, As far As the `M' and `NG' endings go, I don't really know which ones are the most powerful. My TM mantra ends in `NG,' but I know lots of people who were given `M' ending mantras. I often feel that MMY used both just to make up a bigger pool of mantras. eg:- there are so many vers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey New, > > Good post Curtis. Actually great. I appreciate your POV. Thanks. It is really nice that you ask for my POV here. > > Several questions: > > Why atheism and not agnosticism? In my understanding agnosticism runs a gambit from believing in God but thinking he is unknowable, to what i

[FairfieldLife] Trikking Buddhist

2007-10-17 Thread Duveyoung
Below is one of my "sermons" to a trikking group. I put a lot of TM's introductory lecture's concepts in it. At that group, I try to present spirituality "found lurking in the wild" and show how trikking can be a holy practice. For the most part, they react as if I'm telling them to eat locusts

[FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with my apology to chris

2007-10-17 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I honestly think that a lot of the bottom line > of why some people I'm out on this

[FairfieldLife] Madhusudana S. on Samyama (Re: Interesting translation of III 38)

2007-10-17 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Trinity, > > > > Welcome back to krodha-dama. > > > > We get to hear claims here from time to time about lineages - > along > > with var

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
As Jed McKenna wrote in his second book Spiritually Incorrect Enlightenment. Life is free fall forever. A lady commented Yah! and everything is Teflon coated. Tom T

[FairfieldLife] Madhusudana S. on Samyama (Re: Interesting translation of III 38)

2007-10-17 Thread kaladevi93
Hi Bill: I'm not sure what to make of your infrequent posts here to FFL, so often filled with bile and now, misinformation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We get to hear claims here from time to time about lineages - along > with various

[FairfieldLife] Re: Al Gore's Nine Inconvenient Errors

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/16/07 7:07:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > do

[FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with my apology to chris

2007-10-17 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread TurquoiseB
Good thread, Curtis. I'm keeping your (I think) retitling of the original thread above, because it ties in well to the rap it inspired in me. I honestly think that a lot of the bottom line of why some people prefer to believe in a God and some don't is their level of comfort with the idea that som

[FairfieldLife] 'The Good Side'

2007-10-17 Thread Robert
The Bridge ~ Step 65 ~ The Good Side Every bad guy has a good guy inside ~ An Open Letter to the Leaders of the World ~ On one hand, we want to thank you. You have provided us with such adversity and it is this that has finally made us stronger. You have been formidable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is "in control" of our lives?

2007-10-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for that post Gary. So often Atheism is presented > arrogantly as "the only rational POV"... Amen. :-) Although it probably doesn't need to be said, when I used the term "Professional Atheist" in a pr

[FairfieldLife] Madhusudana S. on Samyama (Re: Interesting translation of III 38)

2007-10-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Trinity, > > Welcome back to krodha-dama. > > We get to hear claims here from time to time about lineages - along > with various references to yogic insider knowledge. Most of it is > nothing but mere claims

[FairfieldLife] Key to Peace in Iraq

2007-10-17 Thread John
To All Members: In order to reduce the violence in Iraq, the people of that land needs to establish a strong central government which can enforce the laws of its people. These laws should include provisions to promote Natural Law. Also, the Iraqis need to surrender their own disparate religio