Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Doing that was actually not much trouble.  I booted, changed > something just in case it rebooted and went back for some reason but > would change something on the screen.  Usually, I change

Re: [gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/28/24 6:31 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 28 June 2024 20:32:11 BST Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > >> Remove the date.so it becomes >> /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all >> of them and not the specified version. >> >> Hope that helps > > It cer

Re: [gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 28 June 2024 20:32:11 BST Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Remove the date.so it becomes > /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all > of them and not the specified version. > > Hope that helps It certainly does. I wish I'd known that years ago: it would

Re: [gentoo-user] bashrc and setting PS1 variable heads up.

2024-06-28 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 28 June 2024 08:32:44 BST Dale wrote: > >> I did a major upgrade and found out I had a lot of config files to >> update. I performed those updates, while losing some of my settings. >> Anyway, I figured out how to set the alias variables. Simple enough. >> Cre

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dale wrote: > Doing that was actually not much trouble. I booted, changed something just in case it rebooted and went back for some reason but would change something on the screen. Usually, I change the page on the KDE welcome screen to like page 4 or something.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:18 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:01 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think the rig and video card are fine.  I did try a differe

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 27 June 2024 23:52:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> [snip ...] >>> [30.345] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: nouveau <== Not nvidia >>> == >>> >>> [snip ...] >>> [30.295] (II) modeset(0): Output DP-1 disconnected >>> [30.295] (II) modeset(0):

[gentoo-user] Re: Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-28, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Remove the date.so it becomes > /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware > then it applies to all of them and not the specified version. Yes, that's the clue I was missing. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
Remove the date.so it becomes /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware then it applies to all of them and not the specified version. Hope that helps From: Grant Edwards Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 12:17 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024, 18:28 Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 04:17:23PM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Is there any graceful way to handle the elimination of unwanted > > linux-firmware blobs when doing an update? > > > > I believe I understand the process as outlined at > > ht

Re: [gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 04:17:23PM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > Is there any graceful way to handle the elimination of unwanted > linux-firmware blobs when doing an update? > > I believe I understand the process as outlined at > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Linux_firmware: > > 1. install/upgrad

[gentoo-user] Eliminating unwanted linux-firmware blobs.

2024-06-28 Thread Grant Edwards
Is there any graceful way to handle the elimination of unwanted linux-firmware blobs when doing an update? I believe I understand the process as outlined at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Linux_firmware: 1. install/upgrade sys-kernel/linux-firmware 2. edit /etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linu

Re: [gentoo-user] bashrc and setting PS1 variable heads up.

2024-06-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 28 June 2024 08:32:44 BST Dale wrote: > I did a major upgrade and found out I had a lot of config files to > update. I performed those updates, while losing some of my settings. > Anyway, I figured out how to set the alias variables. Simple enough. > Create a file and list them in t

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:18 PM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:01 PM Dale wrote: > > > > > I think the rig and video card are fine. I did try a different card and version of nvidia drivers once tho. Same thing. At first, I tried the nouveau drivers. All

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-28 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 June 2024 23:52:25 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > [snip ...] > > [30.345] (II) modeset(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: nouveau <== Not nvidia > > == > > > > [snip ...] > > [30.295] (II) modeset(0): Output DP-1 disconnected > > [30.295] (II) modeset(0): Output DP-2 disc

Re: [gentoo-user] bashrc and setting PS1 variable heads up.

2024-06-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/06/2024 08:32, Dale wrote: Also, some software can add files to the bashrc.d directory too.  I'm not sure what added the gentoo-color file but I also found a file for kitty that I installed recently.  If I remove kitty, it removes the file too.  From what I've read, this is why it is changi

[gentoo-user] bashrc and setting PS1 variable heads up.

2024-06-28 Thread Dale
Howdy, I did a major upgrade and found out I had a lot of config files to update.  I performed those updates, while losing some of my settings.  Anyway, I figured out how to set the alias variables.  Simple enough.  Create a file and list them in the file.  The PS1 is different because it usually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config >> files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't >> want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new >> one and have

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:01 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > I think the rig and video card are fine.  I did try a different card > and version of nvidia drivers once tho.  Same thing.  At first, I > tried the nouveau drivers.  All the bootable med

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:01 PM Dale wrote: > > I think the rig and video card are fine. I did try a different card and version of nvidia drivers once tho. Same thing. At first, I tried the nouveau drivers. All the bootable media uses that driver. When I tried it on my install, it was very s

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:13 PM Dale > wrote: > > > I've tried to use nvidia-settings but the man page is like Greek.  > The one thing I did figure out, -q all.  On my main rig, it spits out > TONS of info.  On the new rig, it just says someth

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 27 June 2024 22:06:36 BST Dale wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:03 AM Dale >> >>> > wrote: Update. I played around a bit. I figured I didn't have a lot to lose here. It either works, or it doesn't. A

[gentoo-user] Re: Config file updates and using diff.

2024-06-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-27, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config > files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't > want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new > one and have a saved copy of the old conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 2:13 PM Dale wrote: > I've tried to use nvidia-settings but the man page is like Greek. The one thing I did figure out, -q all. On my main rig, it spits out TONS of info. On the new rig, it just says something like no display found or something. It's like two lines, ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 June 2024 22:06:36 BST Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:03 AM Dale > > > > wrote: > > > Update. I played around a bit. I figured I didn't have a lot to lose > > > here. It either works, or it doesn't. After playing ar

[gentoo-user] Config file updates and using diff.

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Howdy, I just finished a large update on my main rig.  I have a lot of config files to update and some have new entries that are needed but I don't want to lose the ones I've already set.  Usually, I just pick the new one and have a saved copy of the old config to put back my settings.  This is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:03 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Update.  I played around a bit.  I figured I didn't have a lot to lose > > here.  It either works, or it doesn't.  After playing around a bit, I > > got it to work.  I have not restarted it

Re: [gentoo-user] ldconfig segfaults after updating to 23.0 profil

2024-06-27 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 June 2024 20:11:51 BST Dan Johansson wrote: > Hello, > > After updating my system to a 23.0 profile, > default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/plasma (stable), ldconfig has > started segfaulting. The 23.0 profile uses merged /usr as its default. You can, however, remain with

[gentoo-user] ldconfig segfaults after updating to 23.0 profil

2024-06-27 Thread Dan Johansson
Hello, After updating my system to a 23.0 profile, default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/plasma (stable), ldconfig has started segfaulting. Here are the last few lines of "strace ldconfig": newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/rust/lib/librustc_driver-131b866216b2910c.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|064

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:03 AM Dale wrote: > > Update. I played around a bit. I figured I didn't have a lot to lose > here. It either works, or it doesn't. After playing around a bit, I > got it to work. I have not restarted it to see if it will work again, > yet. I wanted to grab some log

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-27 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 June 2024 07:54:43 BST Dale wrote: > Update. I played around a bit. I figured I didn't have a lot to lose > here. It either works, or it doesn't. After playing around a bit, I > got it to work. I have not restarted it to see if it will work again, > yet. I wanted to grab some

Re: [gentoo-user] Issues.

2024-06-27 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 June 2024 08:16:10 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > I had updated my machine, rebooted, keyboard started working, thought > would never see the problem again... > > > Had a power failure, came back on line, keyboard broken, > power went down again, came back on line, keyboard broken. Is

[gentoo-user] Issues.

2024-06-27 Thread Alan Grimes
I had updated my machine, rebooted, keyboard started working, thought would never see the problem again... Had a power failure, came back on line, keyboard broken, power went down again, came back on line, keyboard broken. also X windows won't start my right hand monitor, workaround is to man

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-26 Thread Dale
Update.  I played around a bit.  I figured I didn't have a lot to lose here.  It either works, or it doesn't.  After playing around a bit, I got it to work.  I have not restarted it to see if it will work again, yet.  I wanted to grab some log info first, while it is working.  So, this part is abou

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-26 Thread Dale
Update.  I ordered a monitor.  It's bigger than the one I have now.  I'd still like to get this one working if you have ideas.  May help someone else, we may learn something, you most likely will remember it.  LOL  My plan, get new monitor working with new rig.  When I switch current rig to new r

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-26 Thread Dale
Well, I spoke to soon.  I shutdown for a while.  When I rebooted, to get the logs you wanted, it started cutting off again like it did before.  It seems it worked that one time but it just wanted to tease me.  :/ Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 01:28:47 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-26 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 26 June 2024 01:28:47 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > The above message indicates the same problem you had experienced before > > you > > reinstalled. The monitor is not sending its EDID table, or the card can't > > read it. > > > > Your Xorg sets a default dummy resolution of

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 19:54:33 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> You need to have USE="elogind -systemd" in your make.conf, then add the >>> elogind service to the *boot* runlevel as shown here: >>> >>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Elogind >> I read down through that. I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 19:54:33 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > You need to have USE="elogind -systemd" in your make.conf, then add the > > elogind service to the *boot* runlevel as shown here: > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Elogind > > I read down through that. I did find that acl

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 15:27:00 BST Dale wrote: >> Picking here to get a fresh sub thread going. Attempt two. >> >> I got all the packages installed. Made sure the Nvidia video drivers >> were loaded. I remembered to make sure elogind was running. It wasn't, >> so I started

Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping world rebuild with profile 23.0 upgrade?

2024-06-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/25/24 10:05 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > So what happens if I skip the very last step in the profile 23.0 upgrade > guide, which is: > > 6. Rebuild world: >    emerge --ask --emptytree @world > > Is this just a security concern due to the new hardening flags, or are > there ABI concerns?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 15:27:00 BST Dale wrote: > Picking here to get a fresh sub thread going. Attempt two. > > I got all the packages installed. Made sure the Nvidia video drivers > were loaded. I remembered to make sure elogind was running. It wasn't, > so I started it. Why doesn't disp

Re: [gentoo-user] Skipping world rebuild with profile 23.0 upgrade?

2024-06-25 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 17:05 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > So what happens if I skip the very last step in the profile 23.0 upgrade > guide, which is: > > 6. Rebuild world: > emerge --ask --emptytree @world > > Is this just a security concern due to the new hardening flags, or are > ther

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Dale
Picking here to get a fresh sub thread going.  Attempt two.  I got all the packages installed.  Made sure the Nvidia video drivers were loaded.  I remembered to make sure elogind was running.  It wasn't, so I started it.  Why doesn't display-manager pull that in???  Anyway, I started display-manag

[gentoo-user] Skipping world rebuild with profile 23.0 upgrade?

2024-06-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
So what happens if I skip the very last step in the profile 23.0 upgrade guide, which is: 6. Rebuild world: emerge --ask --emptytree @world Is this just a security concern due to the new hardening flags, or are there ABI concerns?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 00:47:07 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> The first option in the man page explains what you did: >>> >>> https://linux.die.net/man/8/dracut >>> >>> -f, --force >>> overwrite existing initramfs file. >>> >>> Did you have an initramfs already in there?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 June 2024 00:47:07 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > The first option in the man page explains what you did: > > > > https://linux.die.net/man/8/dracut > > > > -f, --force > > overwrite existing initramfs file. > > > > Did you have an initramfs already in there? > > I had the

Re: [gentoo-user] Bash, PS1, alias and how it works now.

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > On my new rig, I'm trying to set up the PS1 and alias variables.  I > found the bash page on the Gentoo wiki but it seems to detail doing it > for each user in their home directories.  Since I'm the only one using > this rig, I prefer to set it globally and have the command

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:52:31 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> Have you seen this before? > No, because I've never used dracut. I just had a thought.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:03:14 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: Have you seen this before? >>> No, because I've never used dracut. >> I just had a thought. I have /usr on the root partition now. Do I even >> need a init

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:52:31 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: > >>> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: > Have you seen this before? > >>> > >>> No, because I've never used dracut. > >> > >> I just had a thought. I h

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 22:03:14 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: > >> Have you seen this before? > > > > No, because I've never used dracut. > > I just had a thought. I have /usr on the root partition now. Do I even > need a init thingy? O

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >>> Have you seen this before? >>> No, because I've never used dracut. >> I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even >> need a init thingy?  >

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-06-24, Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: >> >>> Have you seen this before? >> No, because I've never used dracut. > > I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even > need a init thingy?  Same question as always: doe

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: > >> Have you seen this before? > No, because I've never used dracut. I just had a thought.  I have /usr on the root partition now.  Do I even need a init thingy?  > > >> (chroot) livecd /usr/src/linux # dracut --kver=$(cat >> inc

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 20:47:15 BST Dale wrote: > Have you seen this before? No, because I've never used dracut. > (chroot) livecd /usr/src/linux # dracut --kver=$(cat > include/config/kernel.release) > dracut[I]: Executing: /usr/bin/dracut --kver=6.9.4-gentoo > dracut[F]: Can't write to > /ef

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 17:54:44 BST Dale wrote: > >> I also ran into that locale thing again. Using your export command, >> fixed it, again. I find it odd that the commands to reset the >> environment does not reset that somehow. Anyway, it works. I have that >> LC_ALL set on

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 17:54:44 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > For an ESP on a disk partition, it would be FAT32 (while FAT12 or FAT16 > > can be used for removable media). VFAT is an extension to FAT allowing > > long filenames. In any case it's just a symlink: > > > > ~ $ ls -la /usr/b

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 14:25:47 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> You should at least try to launch a X11 session using a console and see >>> what is printed out on the CLI after you exit (or if it crashes). >>> >>> ~ $ exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session startplasma-x11 >> I

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 15:29:21 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > If a person is trying to copy another install and runs into a failure in > a package to compile, skip ahead and deal with the locale section first > then come back. This failure is between syncing the tree and during the > Optional:

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 14:25:47 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > You should at least try to launch a X11 session using a console and see > > what is printed out on the CLI after you exit (or if it crashes). > > > > ~ $ exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session startplasma-x11 > > I tried every c

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 24 June 2024 15:29:21 BST Dale wrote: > If a person is trying to copy another install and runs into a failure in > a package to compile, skip ahead and deal with the locale section first > then come back. Yes, I've been doing that for some time now, having tripped over something as yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Monday, 24 June 2024 06:19:10 BST Dale wrote: >>> William Kenworthy wrote: ... > Now to ponder what comes next. > > Dale > > :-) :-) Hi Dale, did I see in one of your early emails you created an xorg.conf for nvidia? Hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 24 June 2024 06:19:10 BST Dale wrote: >> William Kenworthy wrote: >>> ... >>> Now to ponder what comes next. Dale :-) :-) >>> Hi Dale, did I see in one of your early emails you created an >>> xorg.conf for nvidia? Have you followed the gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 06:19:10 BST Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > ... > > > >> Now to ponder what comes next. > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > > > > Hi Dale, did I see in one of your early emails you created an > > xorg.conf for nvidia? Have you followed the gentoo Xorg guid

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Michael
On Monday, 24 June 2024 02:55:33 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 23:37:15 BST Dale wrote: > >> Michael wrote: > >>> On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: > >> I kinda like /boot on its own partition. If /boot gets corrupted > >> somehow, I can get the kerne

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-24 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/06/2024 02:55, Dale wrote: Now to ponder what comes next. Stibbons? Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > ... >> Now to ponder what comes next.  >> >> Dale >> >> :-)  :-)  >> > Hi Dale, did I see in one of your early emails you created an > xorg.conf for nvidia?  Have you followed the gentoo Xorg guide where > it says to try first without that file?  I doubt the knoppix etc u

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread William Kenworthy
... Now to ponder what comes next. Dale :-)  :-) Hi Dale, did I see in one of your early emails you created an xorg.conf for nvidia?  Have you followed the gentoo Xorg guide where it says to try first without that file?  I doubt the knoppix etc use a conf file and so must depend on the auto

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 23:37:15 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: That's my thinking. The only benefit to reinstalling is correcting the partition boo boo. >>> What in particular are you referring to? I thought you c

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 June 2024 23:37:15 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: > >> That's my thinking. The only benefit to reinstalling is correcting the > >> partition boo boo. > > > > What in particular are you referring to? I thought you created an ESP

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: >> >> That's my thinking. The only benefit to reinstalling is correcting the >> partition boo boo. > What in particular are you referring to? I thought you created an ESP, / and > /home partitions, if I recall. > I was thinking t

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 June 2024 13:19:18 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 08:53:01 BST Dale wrote: > >> Top posting for consistency. > >> > >> I booted the Gentoo GUI media. I opened a window just in case it > >> rebooted or something while I took a little nap. The resolution

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 23 June 2024 08:53:01 BST Dale wrote: >> Top posting for consistency. >> >> I booted the Gentoo GUI media. I opened a window just in case it >> rebooted or something while I took a little nap. The resolution is >> 1080P which is what I expected the monitor to run at.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 June 2024 08:53:01 BST Dale wrote: > Top posting for consistency. > > I booted the Gentoo GUI media. I opened a window just in case it > rebooted or something while I took a little nap. The resolution is > 1080P which is what I expected the monitor to run at. When I got back > up

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 23 June 2024 02:21:11 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 22 June 2024 19:13:42 BST Dale wrote: > >> Dale wrote: > >>> Michael wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 ~ # xrandr --verbose > >> Can't open display > >> root@Gentoo-1 ~ # > >> > >> > >> That's after I started display-manag

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Dale
Top posting for consistency. I booted the Gentoo GUI media.  I opened a window just in case it rebooted or something while I took a little nap.  The resolution is 1080P which is what I expected the monitor to run at.  When I got back up a few minutes ago, the same window was there.  It ran for hou

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/06/2024 21:04, Michael wrote: This is the other info except nothing xorg there, just wayland. See below for more on that. root@Gentoo-1 ~ # cat/home/dale/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log I thought you said you were having a problem starting a X session, not starting a Wayland sessi

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Dale
Hi Mark, I think you have a good point.  I think I missed something.  Gentoo can be complicated to get going the first time with all the config options.  Once it is going tho, it goes.  I feel I missed either a config option in the guide or maybe some package is missing that isn't pulled in as a d

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 22 June 2024 19:13:42 BST Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Michael wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 ~ # xrandr --verbose >> Can't open display >> root@Gentoo-1 ~ # >> >> >> That's after I started display-manager but this time, it did nothing. >> The screen stayed on a consol

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Dale, Sorry for top posting but I'm travelling and responding on my phone. I don't think this is you hardware and probably not KDE. It's possibly some Gentoo-ish issue. To test and get a KDE config I would boot a Kubuntu flash drive and choose the 'Try it's option which installs nothing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 22 June 2024 19:13:42 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Michael wrote: > root@Gentoo-1 ~ # xrandr --verbose > Can't open display > root@Gentoo-1 ~ # > > > That's after I started display-manager but this time, it did nothing. > The screen stayed on a console. I did move the cable

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Dale
Howdy again. Put in other card.  It's a NVS 510.  Anyway, output of some common log files.  root@Gentoo-1 ~ # tail -f /var/log/messages Jun 22 13:47:29 Gentoo-1 kernel: elogind-daemon[1756]: New session 5 of user root. Jun 22 13:47:58 Gentoo-1 sddm-helper[2518]: pam_unix(sddm-greeter:session): s

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Friday, 21 June 2024 20:02:22 BST Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> On my new rig, I've got everything installed. I mostly been on a >>> console which has worked without issue. Now I've started using the GUI, >>> KDE, and I'm having issues. I wanted to run a comma

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 21 June 2024 20:02:22 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> On my new rig, I've got everything installed. I mostly been on a >> console which has worked without issue. Now I've started using the GUI, >> KDE, and I'm having issues. I wanted to run a command to generate a >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
kde hasn't been accessible enough for screen reader users like me to install it and use it. That out of the way, could that be kde locking your screen for you using a 1 minute time limit? If so, maybe that can be adjusted. The gsettings app likely isn't on your machine so it won't help for me to

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-22 Thread Michael
On Friday, 21 June 2024 20:02:22 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > On my new rig, I've got everything installed. I mostly been on a > console which has worked without issue. Now I've started using the GUI, > KDE, and I'm having issues. I wanted to run a command to generate a > xorg.conf file and it

[gentoo-user] Can't get the GUI to stay up for more than a minute or so before crashing

2024-06-21 Thread Dale
Howdy, On my new rig, I've got everything installed.  I mostly been on a console which has worked without issue.  Now I've started using the GUI, KDE, and I'm having issues.  I wanted to run a command to generate a xorg.conf file and it generate all the needed info regarding hardware and such sinc

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't get Snap working

2024-06-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 18/06/2024 12:00, Michael wrote: On Monday, 17 June 2024 16:43:04 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: So Skype for Linux isn't updated anymore other than its Snap version. So I tried to install that by following the instructions here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Snap As well as here for AppAr

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 20:06:17 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On interrupting one such hang, I found that 32 install jobs had been > > waiting to run; is this limit hard coded? I also saw "too many jobs" or > > something, and "could not read job counter"

[gentoo-user] Bash, PS1, alias and how it works now.

2024-06-20 Thread Dale
Howdy, On my new rig, I'm trying to set up the PS1 and alias variables.  I found the bash page on the Gentoo wiki but it seems to detail doing it for each user in their home directories.  Since I'm the only one using this rig, I prefer to set it globally and have the commands behave the same way n

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/20/24 12:07 PM, Jack wrote: > Again, I don't know if it matters in this case, but my understanding is > that MAKEOPTS only affects jobs using make.  I don't know if there are > equivalent controls for ninja or other build systems. Might that be > relevant here?  If you run top, limit to runnin

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding > the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. I have this > set: > > $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs -

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 16:29:11 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > > > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/06/2024 16:29, Peter Humphrey wrote: Anyway, it still rankles that I can't use more than half the machine's power because of limits in portage. This can't be the only 64GiB machine in gentoo- land, surely. Well, I think my machine has 4x32GiB slots, and two are full, so that makes 64GiB

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Jack
On 6/20/24 11:29 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding the system stalling becau

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:40:12 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. > > I have this set: > > > > $

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:27:18 BST Jack wrote: > On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm > > finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. > > I have this set: > > > > $

Re: [gentoo-user] Too many simultaneous install jobs

2024-06-20 Thread Jack
On 6/20/24 8:46 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, While building a new KDE system (see my post a few minutes ago), I'm finding the system stalling because it can't handle all its install jobs. I have this set: $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs --load-average=30

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