Re: VSWITCH question

2008-05-20 Thread RPN01
Someone commented that it was somewhat clunky, but what we've been doing for the grants is to add two COMMAND statements to each guest's CP Directory entry (actually via an include); the first does the grant for the user, and the second does a couple to connect up the vSwitch, if it isn't already

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread RPN01
Don't forget to do all this for your 490 minidisk as well, as there are several processes that assume that 490 and 190 are very similar -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\

Q ISLINK and locked out users...

2008-05-15 Thread RPN01
I did a Q ISLINK in my z/VM account, which never came back with a response... And now I can¹t log in using any account. Any idea what I¹ve messed up or how to unlock things and allow logins again? Right now, logging in freezes at the logon time, as so: LOGON MAINT HCPLNM102E DASD 0123 forced

Re: Overcommit ratio

2008-05-13 Thread RPN01
I only calculate it for the Linux images, for the reason that Rob states. Our two systems are currently at 1.9:1 and 1.4:1. I found this number useful enough that I have a rexx script that calculates it on the fly. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200

Re: RSCS question

2008-04-30 Thread RPN01
If you run multiple systems, it's an easy way to move files across CTC connections. If you want to be able to print to various types of printers, you may or may not need to get an RSCS license, depending on the type of printer (TCP/IP attached printers are supported w/o a license, I think. We

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-10 Thread RPN01
I don¹t believe this will work. Looking at their web site, they don¹t acknowledge that the product runs on anything but Intel. If they had installs for it on other platforms, any other platforms, you¹d think they¹d be proud enough to say so -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation

Re: Question about z/VM...

2008-04-10 Thread RPN01
You can migrate the functions of a Windows server to zLinux, by converting to appropriate Linux-based tools. I don¹t think anything on that page directly implies that Windows will run in z/VM 5.3. There is the potential for loose inference, though. To any IBMers present: Is there something we

Re: Question about DirMaint on z/VM 5.3

2008-04-10 Thread RPN01
Actually, I think the requirement is RSCS or shared spool. PVM is required for CSE to implement its features, including shared spool. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread RPN01
In looking at their website, at least the free version is i386 / x86_64 / Solaris specific. I see nothing that would imply that they have an install that would run on zSeries. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread RPN01
Note that telnet is not secure. Unless your application or user has a specific need for telnet, TURN IT OFF. Use ssh instead. It provides the same style of access plus a lot more features, and is secure, so your passwords aren¹t flying across the intra / internet as open text. Add to this X11

Re: newbie question - SERVICE machine

2008-04-07 Thread RPN01
First, a good rule of thumb is to not broadcast the password for any of your userids in a public forum (i.e Here). Always replace the password with eight ³X²s and keep them secret. If you replaced the actual password with ³SMILE², then the use of eight ³X²s would keep paranoid people like me

Re: VTAM R.I.P.

2008-04-04 Thread RPN01
Actually, the version I saw years ago had many more questions and responses, but the gist of the VTAM binding process is here. :-) -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: DIRMAINT and MAINT

2008-04-02 Thread RPN01
The easy solution to the peek problem, though if you ever have a really large reader file, it might cause other problems: Defaults set peek for * -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905

Re: Performance problem Linux under Zvm

2008-03-20 Thread RPN01
Not enough information: How many Linux images on what size box (IFLs, memory). Also, is this all users in one or more specific Linux images, or certain users within an image? Could you show some numbers, like maybe an IND LOAD on the z/VM box? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~.

Re: Number of IFLs to zLinux guests

2008-03-19 Thread RPN01
We're running about 40 Linux guests on a total of four IFLs, spread across two LPARs and CECs. Roughly 20 guests in each LPAR. We're about to add an additional IFL to each LPAR, not for capacity, since we're normally running at about 10 - 20 percent, but to handle the case where a single rogue

Re: Re-Use DASD

2008-03-13 Thread RPN01
Actually, mkfs doesn't write the entire volume, does it? You'd have to run dasdfmt and then fdasd to get that effect, before running mkfs, based on how I understand things... I've been known to be wrong, though... Occasionally. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55

Re: Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP...

2008-03-10 Thread RPN01
I did find my problem, and as usual, it was of my own making I mis-read the PIPE UDP help, and had specified 514 as the sending port, rather than specifying 0 and allowing it to choose a port above 1024. I can fix this But, while I understand that, once a UDP message leaves my hands,

Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP...

2008-03-07 Thread RPN01
I was going to ask what I was doing wrong... But I figured that out just a moment ago. My question now is what is the logic behind requiring a user to be in TCPIP¹s Obey list to allow it to use certain TCP/IP ports and protocols. It isn¹t everything, because things like FTP work, and I think you

Re: Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP...

2008-03-07 Thread RPN01
But my port wasn¹t specified; I was trying to talk to port 514 on the destination. If what you¹re implying was true, then only OBEY users could use FTP, since it¹s port number is 21. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\

Re: Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP...

2008-03-07 Thread RPN01
I'd buy that, except that it wasn't a protocol error; the problem was entirely inside z/VM and TCPIP, in that a parameter was missing in the PROFILE TCPIP, which isn't part of any of the standards. If I put my UDP message out on the wire and it gets lost, I'll accept that. But if my own interface

Re: Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP...

2008-03-07 Thread RPN01
client does not use port 21 as the source port. -- John McKown . -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using UDP port 514 in z/VM TCPIP

Re: The list it to quiet, here's something to work on.

2008-03-05 Thread RPN01
Er... When strip() was originally written? :-P -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same,

Re: error bringing up cloned system

2008-03-03 Thread RPN01
You know the by-path name before you ever create the Linux image. It will always be /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.CCUU.part1 (for SuSE SLES 10), where CCUU is the virtual address of the minidisk, if you're running as a z/VM guest, or the real CCUU of the device if you're running in an LPAR. (This also

Re: error bringing up cloned system

2008-03-03 Thread RPN01
But, if you're cloning an image, and you're running beneath z/VM, then why would you ever need to change the CUU of any of the cloned disks? Generate your clone to match your master image, using the same virtual devices. Since one doesn't know about the other, from the guest standpoint, there is

Re: error bringing up cloned system

2008-02-29 Thread RPN01
I ran into this same problem. The /dev/disk/by-id name for the disk was different on the cloned system from the master image on some (not all) of the clones. I didn't find the source of the difference, but I did switch to /dev/disk/by-path/ccd-0X0391-part1 instead of using the by-id name that the

Re: error bringing up cloned system

2008-02-29 Thread RPN01
Zipl.conf is probably fine. Change fstab, not necessarily to /dev/dasda1, but to the /dev/disk/by-path for the CCUU of dasda1, so that, should its order in the list of disks ever change and it were to become, say, /dev/dasdb1 instead, you'll still find it correctly. That's the whole point of the

Re: error bringing up cloned system

2008-02-29 Thread RPN01
The problem all this is trying to get around is that, if you define a system that brings up, say, minidisks at 391, 392 and 393, they become /dev/dasda, dasdb and dasdc. Now you add a new minidisk at 291 If the system puts this at the end of the list, then it would become /dev/dasdd, and this

Re: PPRC

2008-02-27 Thread RPN01
We run something similar, but only in AUTOLOG1 or by special request. We look through the complete list of DASD addresses, looking for CP Owned and CP System devices. Anything that doesn't match either of these, and isn't already offline, is varied offline. Counts are produced at the end. With a

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

2008-02-25 Thread RPN01
This is very true... And also very wrong. Have you looked at the number of manuals that come in the z/VM set at this point? They now come on a DVD. How would someone, just starting into z/VM, decide where to start reading? Or, better yet, once you read the obvious introductions, where do you go

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

2008-02-25 Thread RPN01
Actually, the way we have things set up, all of the linux guests forward their syslogs to two central syslog servers. But, not all the messages displayed on the guest console make it in to the syslog. For one thing, any CP messages are lost, and only appear in the z/VM spooled console. We'd like

Re: Impromptu XEDIT Survey

2008-02-20 Thread RPN01
Obviously, on the left. That¹s why everyone was so ecstatic when the extra ³=² was added to the command line prompt. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -

Re: Impromptu XEDIT Survey

2008-02-20 Thread RPN01
Cmdline belongs on the bottom, because we¹re not z/OS. Œnuf said. I generally run with the scale and current line in the center of the screen, and with num on, because sometimes cmdline commands are more convenient when you don¹t have to guess at the line numbers. The only problem with Num On is

Re: Mainframe Announcement Webcast

2008-02-20 Thread RPN01
z10, of the green stripe :-) On 2/20/08 3:06 PM, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received my invite to the mainframe announcement webcast for Tuesday next week. Anyone else get one? Apparently, z 10 is the next one! Normally, something like this causes a flurry of mail.

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread RPN01
On 2/14/08 10:37 AM, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread RPN01
The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?

Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-12 Thread RPN01
You can get rid of them But DirMaint is just going to put them right back again when you replace the user. :-) If it's a modification date, it doesn't contain a year, which, on longer-term systems, would become useless. It'd be like saying It changed Wednesday. Also, the DirMaint DVHOPT

Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-12 Thread RPN01
The downside is that DirMaint currently uses the columns from 73 to 80 for its own information. Changing to a V format would break DirMaint. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844

Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-12 Thread RPN01
Per your comment on the 3279: Did you ever use any of the original 3279 terminals with the ³chicklet² keyboards? We had serial numbers 6, 10 and 12, and the keyboards were horrible; there was ample space between the keys (both vertically and horizontally) for you to be able to miss a key entirely.

Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT

2008-02-11 Thread RPN01
The first question I have is, what do you both have your ³SORT_DIRECTORY=² and ³SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=² parameters set to, in CONFIG DATADVH or it¹s minions? These may or may not be the issue. Second, someone mentioned comments taking space in the object directory... My impression / hope would

Re: Sybase on zSeries Linux

2008-02-08 Thread RPN01
Sybase is not supported on Linux for zSeries, neither the server nor the client. Lost me a customer... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW / ( ) \ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory,

Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2008-02-07 Thread RPN01
If you can get them to use a common profile, and possibly run a script or control file that matches the userid, then there'd really be no need for the writable 191 in each dumper virtual machine. You could place the 191 under either $VOLS$ or some other maintenance user, and have the profile just

Re: CMS Programming: How to sort files entries retrieved by DMSGETDF

2008-01-28 Thread RPN01
The obvious answer being overlooked by everyone is Sort the list. If the disk has a small number of files (say, less than 1,000), just write a bubble sort and put the list in order yourself. If the number of files is large, then you might have to write a more complex sort to do it

Re: CMS Programming: How to sort files entries retrieved by DMSGETDF

2008-01-28 Thread RPN01
: This is the problem. Normally you can expect that the list is sorted. Therefore a small hint (usage note) telling that you can not guarantee th at the list is sorted would have been useful. BR Fox On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:28:10 -0600, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I just

Re: Cross post - FICON defined DS6800 to a Z890

2008-01-19 Thread RPN01
I'm using Entourage on a Mac, and didn't see the pictures either; just the boxes. I figured it was just Entourage, but maybe the original sender needs to come up with a different way to expose his pictures... Flickr comes to mind... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\

Re: Replacement for PKZIP on VM

2008-01-15 Thread RPN01
Would you consider using a Linux image as an engine or service machine to zip and unzip the necessary files? There are already free tools there, and Linux will talk to z/VM fairly freely. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW

Re: Backups and failover

2008-01-11 Thread RPN01
For the guarded failover portion, we have a rexx script and server that keeps track of which system the guest was last booted on. If it is logged in on the same host, the system just starts up. If it is autologged on the other host, it immediately logs off (it¹s 191 disk is R/O, so no damage

Lots of flashy questions this morning....

2008-01-08 Thread RPN01
We¹re trying to create new Linux images just as fast as our geeky little minds can comprehend, and the next logical step would be FlashCopy. DirMaint appears to have parameters for the use of FlashCopy by the module DVHDXD, but I can¹t find too much more information beyond what is documented in

Re: Lots of flashy questions this morning....

2008-01-08 Thread RPN01
I hate it when people hide things under my nose. On 1/8/08 8:46 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there is an error in the doc. The default level 2 behavior is (supposed to be) synchronous. DirMaint will poll, waiting until the flashcopy is complete before reporting

Re: Lots of flashy questions this morning....

2008-01-08 Thread RPN01
Thanks Alan; The FLASHCOPY command was exactly what we needed, and works perfectly. Where building a system with two 3390 mod 9 disks took about 18 minutes using DDR for the copy, using FLASHCOPY produces a bootable system in 41 seconds. Quite an improvement. In the CONFIG DATADVH file, the

Re: Checking how invoked

2007-12-28 Thread RPN01
This would assume that the execs never fail, and leave the globalv variable in place. If that should happen in a user's machine, it could be *very* hard for them to debug, since they wouldn't technically know about the variable in the first place, and probably wouldn't think of looking there for

Re: Checking how invoked

2007-12-27 Thread RPN01
The simple answer would be to change the command line when used from within an exec, so that you can tell where you've come from. The user types Submit jobname inputfile parms... and the command does the work from the command line. Within another exec, use the command Submit foobar jobname

Re: EXEC vs MODULE

2007-12-20 Thread RPN01
I've had this problem before. The simple way to get around it is to create a MODULE EXEC, and in it, do an Address Command commandline. This removes the normal selection of execs before modules, and executes the module given in commandline. The whole exec would look like: /* module exec */ Parse

Re: z/VM 5.3 FLIST

2007-12-14 Thread RPN01
Given the amount of time that filelist has been available, wouldn't it be more prudent to be requesting the features you feel are lacking in filelist, rather than trying to keep an old sagging horse alive? Obviously, flist is still maintained, since it was changed in the current release. But it

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread RPN01
We're not trying... But we'd love to have an ssh command on z/VM, just for non-interactive access to linux. scp and sftp would be a bonus. I'd just like to be able to do something like the following on z/VM CMS: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -c uname -a Substitute your favorite configuration or query

Re: FTP

2007-12-05 Thread RPN01
Actually, doesn't z/OS use the qualifiers of the dataset name as portions of a simulated directory path? The member name would be the file at the lowest level. This would make your command something like cd /mvs cd dsn put fn.ft fn Not sure about the /mvs... There should be some way to get to

Re: HCD question

2007-12-03 Thread RPN01
Our I/O configuration is done completely via z/OS. The only downside I can see to it is that z/VM can¹t dynamically add devices, since it has no access to the source. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW / ( ) \

Re: Formatter for/Linux Minidisk from CMS

2007-11-30 Thread RPN01
Actually, I¹ve never formatted minidisks before giving them to a Linux guest. Dasdfmt works just fine for me, without any prep at all. Are you actually seeing a problem, or just making an assumption? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55 200

Re: Formatter for/Linux Minidisk from CMS

2007-11-30 Thread RPN01
Worst case, try formatting them with ICKDSF, just as you would a z/VM paging or spooling volume. This may be more toward what the Linux system wants than the CMS format. In any case, I really don¹t do either, and have had no problems. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\

Re: z/VM Installation from DVD

2007-11-30 Thread RPN01
It¹s just basically two choices for how to store the bulk of the product code. The traditional mode would be to install on minidisks. The disadvantage of this is that each product minidisk will end up with some free space, and overall, you¹ll use a lot more disk for the install. If you choose SFS

Re: MEMO XMASGIFT: TRF2TCPD

2007-11-28 Thread RPN01
Boy! MEMO XMASGIFT brings back lots of memories (Hard to do at my age...) On 11/27/07 2:01 PM, Spracklen, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will TRF2TCPD work on z/VM 5.3? Thanks Ken Spracklen

Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2007-11-26 Thread RPN01
I realize that I¹ve been here before, and I remember that the solution had nothing to do with the monitor command or anything else obvious... But I¹ve slept since then and have come up short of the solution. When I start the Performance Toolkit service machine, it gets this exception: FCXPMN446E

Re: Incomplete monitor data: SAMPLE CONFIG size too small

2007-11-26 Thread RPN01
This matches what I got to by trial and error. I¹ve ended up with the mondcss segment from 9000-9fff, and a sample config size of 1500. It seems to be working without error now. This started with installing Omegamon XE for z/VM and Linux, and I still need to see if that is receiving any data at

Re: Guest access to z9 DVD drive

2007-11-21 Thread RPN01
Access to the DVD drive on the HMC is incredibly slow. I think it was meant as a means of bootstraping up a bare system when you first get it, rather than being intended for long-term use as a mainframe device. It's faster and easier to create the ISO on your laptop and FTP/NFS/SCP it up to one of

Re: Dirmsat fails to execute commands for Dirmaint

2007-11-13 Thread RPN01
to remember that happening to me once. I seem to remember the problem being something really simple. Something as simple as the class on the reader.. I wish I could be more helpfull. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent

Re: Age of IBM VM

2007-11-13 Thread RPN01
The original version was called ³CP 67² (I think), narrowing it down to 1967 or a bit before... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory,

Dirmsat fails to execute commands for Dirmaint

2007-11-12 Thread RPN01
IBMLink appears to be down, so I¹ll throw this out here and hope to find an expert... I have Dirmaint defined on system ³A², and Dirmsat defined on system ³B². I have the definitions in config datadvh to define the relationship, and the virtual machines are up and running. I issue a Dirmaint

Re: CP messages in a pipeline anomaly

2007-11-08 Thread RPN01
These responses are asynchronous to the command itself... Just how long would you like the pipe to wait to be sure it has captured all the messages produced by a command? There are no immediate responses to your secuser commands, as indicated by the fact that the pipe found none. Now, if you want

Re: zLinux question

2007-10-30 Thread RPN01
Note also that erep may have information that would be useful in diagnosing the problem. Get into the erep manual and figure out how to get the information its hoarding; give it to your systems or hardware people... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55

Still struggling with DirMaint and RSU 0702...

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
I¹ve found most of my problems with DirMaint after installing RSU 0702, but for the one remaining, I¹m getting the following messages: DVHRLY2119T Error in CMS command; RC= 124 DVHRLY2119T from: PIPE (Name Find_All_Servers End DVHRLY2119T ?) F: FANINANY | SPECS W1 1 W2 10 | DVHRLY2119T SORT

Re: DASD question

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
Before you run off and format the drive again, from the sound of your description, you either attached the disk to a user and queried it, or you created a minidisk that covered the drive, including cyl 0. That's about the only two ways you'd get a message about it being an OS disk. You need to

Re: DASD question

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
I have a 200 cyl minidisk for that purpose, 80% used, and it contains 10 different sets of those three files in various flavors. If you¹re using just SLES10, then 30 cylinders will do it, and have space left over. Now, if you¹re a packrat, like me, then allocate the 200 cyl disk, and you¹ll be

RSU 0702 and Dirmaint

2007-10-24 Thread RPN01
I just installed RSU 0702 for z/VM 5.3. Prior to this, I had DirMaint set up and running. After the maintenance, it¹s back in testing mode for some reason. I have a CONFIG50 DATADVH file in the path that contains the setup we were running in, and it has runmode= Operational. Is DirMaint not

Re: RSU 0702 and DirMaint

2007-10-24 Thread RPN01
Some additional info... I¹m seeing this on the DirMaint console: DIRMAINT VMTESTP. - 2007/10/24; T=0.01/0.01 13:29:19 dvhbegin DVHITI3531W An OFFLINE CONTROL exists. Updates to the object DVHITI3531W directory are currently disabled. Use the DIRM ONLINE DVHITI3531W command to enable object

Re: RSU 0702 and Dirmaint

2007-10-24 Thread RPN01
Yup. Ended the session w/ PUT2PROD. On 10/24/07 3:09 PM, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you PUT2PROD ? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of RPN01 Sent: Wed 10/24/2007 2:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] RSU 0702

Re: Is HiperSwap Supported under z/VM?

2007-10-22 Thread RPN01
Also note that Hyperswap IS NOT supported for the z/VM environment if you¹re running CSE and / or have any shared DASD between two z/VM LPARs. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844

Re: Command to list details about the exisitng partitions / guest on zVM

2007-10-22 Thread RPN01
You¹ll find that most z/VM¹ers will use userid, guest, image, and virtual machine interchangeably. Sometimes in the same paragraph, and possibly in the same sentence. Sorry; they¹re all just part of the history of the beast. But yes, if you log off the user, you¹ve ³powered off² the virtual

Re: Command to list details about the exisitng partitions / guest on zVM

2007-10-22 Thread RPN01
Thanks for the console log; The most interesting command you¹ve shown here is: QUERY NAMES LINUXFTP - DSC , PERFSVM - DSC , TCPIP - DSC , DTCVSW2 - DSC DTCVSW1 - DSC , OPERSYMP - DSC , DISKACNT - DSC , EREP - DSC TCPMAINT - DSC , BEADEV01 -L0003 VSM - TCPIP This tells you what

Re: 2nd Level IPL

2007-10-17 Thread RPN01
I'm fairly sure that if you change the name of a spool volume, it will not survive the next IPL. Back up your spool to tape before renaming the volume and re-IPLing. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\

Re: 2nd Level IPL

2007-10-17 Thread RPN01
this. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 2nd Level IPL I'm fairly sure that if you change the name of a spool volume, it will not survive the next

Re: 2nd Level IPL

2007-10-17 Thread RPN01
If you've used real DASD, and renamed the disks, either using Dedicate or full-pack Mdisk for the second level system, and you've changed addresses for things like your OSA card, console, DASD and other emulated real devices (and these new device addresses actually correspond with real devices),

Omegamon XE for z/VM and storage definitions

2007-10-16 Thread RPN01
I¹m in the process of installing Omegamon XE for z/VM and Linux, and I¹ve gotten to the point of defining the DCSS to the linux guest serving as the monitor collection agent. I defined the Linux guest having 512m of memory. I defined the perfout dcss with ³DEFSEG 21000-210FF SN², which, I think,

Re: Omegamon XE for z/VM and storage definitions

2007-10-16 Thread RPN01
I hate it when I think of an answer my own questions as I type them, and then hit send anyway. Changing the size of the guest from 512m to 528m and restarting solved the problem. The segment does indeed have to match the top of the guest¹s memory. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo

Re: Omegamon XE for z/VM and storage definitions

2007-10-16 Thread RPN01
The problem is, much of the time I just babble, and I¹m not sure when to start paying attention to what I¹m saying... -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^

Re: Omegamon XE for z/VM and storage definitions

2007-10-16 Thread RPN01
the mem=529m parameter. On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:33:47 -0500, RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate it when I think of an answer my own questions as I type them, and then hit send anyway. Changing the size of the guest from 512m to 528m and restarting solved t he problem. The segment does

Re: hacking vm/cms (probably old news)

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
This is true. When I was in college in the 70¹s, we toured the air traffic control center in Indianapolis. They had a large number of s/360 systems with huge amounts (then) of additional memory; so much so, that to shorten electrical paths, one memory cabinet for each system was hung from the

Re: connecting 2nd level TCPIP stack to first level VSWITCH

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
Define a nic in your second level system where you expect the OSA to be when you bring it up first level. Grant the second level system to the vSwitch. It should all ³just work². I¹m currently running a CSE complex second level, testing z/VM 5.3 and preparing for implementation. I just connected

Re: hacking vm/cms (probably old news)

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
Hi Alan; Given that the starting CP Directory is dynamically created, for the most part, today, how hard would it be to allow the installer to select a root password to be applied to all of the initial accounts? While putting the same password on everything is still not ideal, it is better than

Re: hacking vm/cms (probably old news)

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
Actually, it's much easier, at least in my opinion, to do the massive edits to the directory before handing off the first version to DirMaint or some other directory manager. Why do in 100 or more dirm commands what you could do in three or four xedit commands. -- .~.Robert P. Nix

Re: hacking vm/cms (probably old news)

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
As far as I'm concerned, until the system matches the production environment, it's mine, and auditors have no business looking at it at all; I'll do as I please. They can whine all they want; they don't have an ID on the installation system to look at anything with anyway, so how can they say it

Re: Initial User Directory

2007-10-09 Thread RPN01
You could add one question to the initial dialog: Old School, or Paranoid? (O or P): It'd be interesting to collect statistics, but I think that, in today's market, paranoid would win out. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First

Re: CSE: It's the little things that'll get ya...

2007-10-08 Thread RPN01
Actually, John caught it almost immediately; Early on in the process, an arbitrary decision (the most dangerous kind :-\ ) was made to change the test machine's names from zvmtestp / g to vmtestp / g. The xspool statements contained the old names, so the systems with the new names did not have CSE

Re: D/R Code

2007-10-05 Thread RPN01
That seems a lot of work, when you could just ask the system who it is, and set the system's name based on its serial number. On the TCPIP front, again, you can just have two config files w/ the system name as the FN, and be done with it. No editing at startup. -- .~.Robert P. Nix

CSE: It's the little things that'll get ya...

2007-10-05 Thread RPN01
I¹m in the process of building our z/VM 5.3 systems, and I think I¹m down to the last hurdle I can¹t get CSE to fire up across PVM. The message I¹m getting in PVM is: DVMISG864E CSE is not authorized The description of the message says that CSE is not available or not set up, but, to the

Re: Track on zVM 5.3

2007-09-26 Thread RPN01
Being a big fan of track, but having only track52, where can I find trackz64? I don't see it in the z/VM packages pages, and searching google for trackz64 only finds someone looking for an older or recompiled version -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-20 Thread RPN01
Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. RPN01 wrote: With more and more tapeless systems, something other than SPXTAPE is required

Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
I think I asked this once, but didn¹t get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and spool as 3390 mod 9 devices (10017 cylinders). But in fact, I was using 3390 mod 27 disks (32760 cylinders). If I go into the devices with ICKDSF and change the remaining cylinders to PAGE and

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
True... But I was hoping to get a Yes, this will work. or No this will fail. just so I know where I'm going On 9/19/07 1:36 PM, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RPN01 wrote: I think I asked this once, but didnt get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
there is a really good reason to change direction. RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/19/2007 1:29 PM I think I asked this once, but didn¹t get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and spool as 3390 mod 9 devices (10017 cylinders). But in fact, I was using 3390 mod 27 disks (32760

Re: Extending the 5.3 install page and spool

2007-09-19 Thread RPN01
, unless there is a really good reason to change direction. RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/19/2007 1:29 PM I think I asked this once, but didn¹t get an answer The 5.3 install allowed me to format page and spool as 3390 mod 9 devices (10017 cylinders). But in fact, I

Extending the 5.2 paging and spool

2007-09-14 Thread RPN01
I did the initial install of z/VM, and discovered that even though I used a 3390 mod 27 for my 530pag and 530spl volumes, only the first 10016 cylinders were used. Extending the paging to the end of the real volume isn¹t a problem, but can I extend the spool space without trashing the contents of

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