Re: Anyone remember this?

2011-08-08 Thread Richard Troth
I'd say the reference to VM is misplaced as well, since we would not do IEF macros unless forced to... but what do I know, I'm just a newbie... This is correct. Newbie, perhaps, but you're learning so fast! :-) We do, of course, have plenty of uses for no-op by any other name, and so there

Re: SUSE11 and VNC Viewer

2011-07-06 Thread Richard Troth
Hi, Bob, -- I use VNC rather heavily. From Tom's report, you may be having a different error than I am used to. Also, contrary to Tom's suggestion, I don't start VNC as a service, but run it from user space (even though perhaps running as root) ... sign on, do a 'vncserver' command, then connect

Re: EDEVICE Question

2011-06-30 Thread Richard Troth
For scalability, no. In fact, since the I/O is per channel and not per subchannel, you gain little from spearding EDEVs across subchannels. At one point early in a prior life, I tried pinning each EDEV on its own pair of FCP subchans. Was a pain! -- R; Velocity Software

Re: Extending DASD format?

2011-06-28 Thread Richard Troth
Several have said ... create a new disk. That's your safest bet. To actually enlarge the existing filesystem, you still have want a new minidisk. Two things are then needed: 4K blocks on the new space (the extension), and a fixup of the CDL partition table. If both of those could be had, then

Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-23 Thread Richard Troth
Just FYI ... the tuition is a steal. -- R;   On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:40, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: On: Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:05:37PM -0400,Kent E. Taylor Wrote: } May a rusty old geezer attend?  I retired 19+ years ago and have not had an opportunity to use VM or a

Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available

2011-06-22 Thread Richard Troth
Man ... you're good! It rhymes: July 28 at Ohio State! -- R;   On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 13:49, Len Diegel ldie...@aol.com wrote: I wanted to let everyone know that the VM Workshop Session Grid is now available on the web site: www.vmworkshop.org. A few abstracts are still 

Re: IE9 Hangs Webshare on PEEKTO

2011-06-07 Thread Richard Troth
Hi, Fran, -- Something is causing WEBSHARE to read from the socket in a situation where IE9 is not saying anything more. (As you probably guessed.) It smells like multiple calls to GETLINE. I don't remember how many times we call GETLINE. WEBSHARE was written in the days of HTTP/0.9, which

Re: Sort IP addresses

2011-05-24 Thread Richard Troth
IPv4 addresses (the dotted decimal stuff) should be converted to binary, one octet for each component. It's fixed at 32 bits total, so you can sort that reliably. Personally, I would rather convert it to hex and sort that, but ... ahhh the joy of EBCDIC collating sequence. (Someone will jump in

Re: uploading C code to VM

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Troth
Tony -- I have done C on CMS for more than 20 years (off and on).  Never been limitted to 72 cols that I remember.  In the early days I might not have cared.  If it ever was a problem, I probably set (NOMARGINS like Alan suggests and then forgot it was ever a problem. One great thing about doing

Re: Anyone use The Hessling Editor (THE), an Xedit/Kedit look-alike, for off-line VM code development or personal use?

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Troth
What appeals to me is (from way back) that I can build Regina and THE reliably from source. I used at least two other REXX implementations and had trouble building them ... at some point along the road. Lately it matters less. (about build ability) So ... I have built and run THE and Regina on

Re: zvm directions

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Troth
Wow ... so many possible directions *this* thread could go. For fifty years, the platform now known as z has been all about scalability. For more than forty years, the environment we call z/VM has been all about resource sharing. Multi-system maint is something most people in the industry

Re: Problems with SCSI FBA device under z/VM

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Troth
So ... when it works on Linux, how is it defined? Using the same subchannel? (2000) Is NPIV in place? What's with the PPP in the WWPN in the error report? Is Linux also using this device when you try to use it as an EDEV? -- R;   Rick Troth Velocity Software

Re: z/VM RedHat Virtual Machine Memory abend

2011-04-20 Thread Richard Troth
I didn't say anything at first because clearly there IS a problem. Linux is crashing when presented with 64G of storage, but not when presented with 59G, per what Carlos said at the start. This is not likely a VM or hardware problem. True, the req is probably ROT and not based on actual

Re: Is there a free evaluation copy of Linux for z/VM?

2011-04-05 Thread Richard Troth
...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Monday, 04/04/2011 at 10:02 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: It's good that native Linux is an option, but it's rare that I would recommend it. That's just a reflection of the application workload you have encountered.  Lucky, you.  :-)   There are workloads

Re: Is there a free evaluation copy of Linux for z/VM?

2011-04-04 Thread Richard Troth
Being the purist, I appreciate that Linux on z can run without z/VM. However ... The value of virtualization is still not recognized in a lot of places and situations. D/R preparedness is a biggie. One D/R plan has most of your app-hosting systems run virtual. So when you bring things up on

Re: Old codger question: Can SFS be networked across systems?

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Troth
Les -- About the authentication nightmare part, the same criticism is frequently nailed on NFS in Unix/Linux land. The problem there is the same: You have placed a certain amount of admin trust in the file sharing peer systems. If you don't trust the sysadmin of an NFS client, don't export the

Re: SMTP authentication?

2011-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
But it's so much more fun! Sheesh ... you have a lot of self restraint, Alan. Don't silently take the problem away from them and solve it on your own. ... (2) They don't learn anything ... [Riddler stops Two Face killing Batman] Don't kill him! If you kill him, he won't

Re: Multi-pathing for FCP SCSI EDEVS

2011-03-02 Thread Richard Troth
Tom -- What I read from what you posted is that the storage side must be servicing all paths. That's a legit requirement. There is then the question of what VM does with those four paths. Does it perform some kind of rotation, spreading the I/O load? Or do the other paths serve only for

Re: Linux on z/VM Cloning Problem

2011-02-14 Thread Richard Troth
Rich is right. If you are using EDEV, then simply change the CP Directory entry (of the clone) to point to the new disks. Let me emphasize: When using EDEV, you have less changes to make within Linux (to fixup the clone), probably only the IP address and hostname. There will be no SAN concerns

Re: XEDIT question

2011-01-25 Thread Richard Troth
On an 80-col screen, SET VER 1 72, is what I use. That what you're after? -- R; On Jan 25, 2011 3:52 PM, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com wrote: Hello, There is a command or set of XEDIT commands that I used to do under XEDIT that would allow me to view a 80+ column file without a line

Re: Melinda's Web Page has moved ...

2011-01-21 Thread Richard Troth
And it appears to have some updates. Except for that guy with the Heineken stack. I *know* he doesn't look like that anymore. He's obviously a teacher of some sort, demonstrating important university research techniques. And who's that in the background? Looks like Stuart McRae. -- R;  

Re: Setting the datetime stamp on a file

2010-12-31 Thread Richard Troth
By the number of responses, you have clearly kicked an ant hill. :-) So ... you have several great answers. Let me also mention one other (even though you are surely no longer in need). http://www.casita.net/pub/cmsmake/touch.exec It is designed to work like the Unix 'touch' command,

Re: Setting the datetime stamp on a file

2010-12-29 Thread Richard Troth
DMSPLU -- R; Rick Troth Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 16:25, Tracy, David david.tr...@nielsen.com wrote: All, Is there a way to set the date and time stamp on a file? Thank you... ...Dave

Re: 64encode exec?

2010-12-27 Thread Richard Troth
Depends on what Other System you mean, exactly. There is Pipelines for MVS (TSO), but I am guessing that YOU of all people KNOW that. So are you talking about Unix/Linux? or maybe Windows? You could extract the logic from 64ENCODE REXX and make REXX from it. -- R; On Mon, Dec 27, 2010

Re: ISFC connection between LPARs

2010-12-23 Thread Richard Troth
Also ... 3. Does not handle BFS -- R; On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 18:10, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: For me, SFS is enough. In a former life, I did write a complex APPC application that involved code and data in VM, MVS and TPF. That was enough to make me swear off of

Re: Copyfile with PACK on MVS ?

2010-12-21 Thread Richard Troth
Maybe NETDATA? -- R;   On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 04:21, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, When a RECFM V file is transferred through download/upload with a PC, we need to protect the record layout. And when it's non-text you can't stick CRLF between the lines. On VM we

Re: Mandatory ESMs?

2010-12-11 Thread Richard Troth
... So, yes, it really IS that bad. I understand why: no business case to do the testing and doc, but isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy? Business cases are real. (And they are Very Important to some of us.) But the most game changing developments were NOT done because of the business

Re: Mandatory ESMs?

2010-12-10 Thread Richard Troth
It has a robust POSIX feature set too. The only thing wrong is how fork() works, and there are substantial constructive reasons for that. It's up to us to use it or lose it. To this day, CMS is the single most efficient runtime environment available. One can only hope that the newbes who bring

Re: Mandatory ESMs?

2010-12-10 Thread Richard Troth
There is a GCC which runs on CMS. I have not used it. Perhaps those on this list who have will chime in. GCC is a volunteer project, so the CMS port (which is closely related to the MVS port) will lack some features of compilers from IBM or Dignus. -- R;   On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 16:10,

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
RXSSL comes to mind. As it happens, a couple of us were discussing RXSSL off-list within the past day. Seems that it may need some attention to get it working with the new VM SSL. -- R; Rick Troth Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:43, Schuh,

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
Yep. A new RFC is needed. The original author has been saying that for ten years, has asked for collaborators, and is still open. The original design intentionally left compression and encryption out of scope. The advent of SSL suggests that was probably a good choice. ZIP has been around

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:26, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thursday, 12/02/2010 at 10:08 EST, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: The bottom line for UFT is to do over TCP what RSCS does over CTC/VTAM/NJE, but not in the way NJE/IP

Re: The old VM/ESA CMS GUI - Does it still live?

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Troth
Perceptive choice of words, prepared to admit. The GUI is another terrific bit of work by the Endicott team that we turned our noses up at. It uses the same agent as ... shoot ... ISPF, I think. So the last time I ran it (on 5.4, within the past year) I had to steal an agent from one of the MVS

Re: Attachment to acquire Novell....

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Troth
X3270 is crude, granted. But it is consistent, and it is the only 3270 emulator that covers as many platforms. I have offered my $HOME/.x3270pro repeatedly (not here), though it is so old that I really don't remember all that is in it ... or why. This much I remember: F keys are PF keys, Alt-1

Re: FTP Question

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Troth
Windows is more specific about its requirements for line termination. Generally it must be CR/LF. I have found some editors and other tools on Windows to be really confused when fed a Unix text file, for example. Can you bring up the file with WordPad? (aka 'write') Can you 'type' the file?

Re: FTP and BFS

2010-10-22 Thread Richard Troth
The syntax you indicate for the BFS stage is wrong. Did it get pasted into the message incorrectly? You can FTP to/from BFS just fine. I forget off the top of my head just how to activate it. You can mount NFS filesystems into a BFS tree. I have used that for years. It is really teriffic.

Re: PROP RTABLE and HCPCRC8082I

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Troth
Is that *3 the IUCV message type? Async CP messages, CP responses, consile I/O. The same numerology has to be handled if you use the STARMSG stage in Pipelines. Have fun! -- R;   On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 15:54, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: If it helps, we see that message

Moving On

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Troth
This month, I will be leaving Nationwide Insurance and taking up work with Velocity Software. When I interviewed at Nationwide in late 2005, Paul Henry (then director over the mainframe guys) put it this way [insert thick Bostonian accent here] - We're serious about virtualization.. And so it

Re: Moving on (please don't panic)

2010-09-02 Thread Richard Troth
Congrats! On 2010-09-02, ASIFF AMAHED asiff...@gmail.com wrote: Good luck in your New adventure, and thank you ones again for all your help over the years. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: Effective September 16th, after nearly 28 years in VM

Re: CMS Pipelines for Windows

2010-08-31 Thread Richard Troth
This is awesome work you've done. There are two or three strong implementations of Pipelines for non-CMS/TSO environments. I don't mean to dis any of them. I'm looking for something written in C for maximum efficiency and portability. Having a core that is pure C does not prohibit some of the

Re: messed up DASD Mappings..

2010-08-30 Thread Richard Troth
You attached the disk (the whole volume) to that other guest. But ... the guest which owns it ... is it a minidisk? If so, then you want to 'link' it instead of 'attach' it. That's just for starters. Forgive me if you already know this, but it sounds like #1 you are in a minor crisis and #2

Re: messed up DASD Mappings..

2010-08-30 Thread Richard Troth
v dasd just like all the others (minus VDSK) in the original post (CYL addressing), if that tells you anything On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: You attached the disk (the whole volume) to that other guest.  But ... the guest which owns

Re: Linux File system under VM

2010-08-19 Thread Richard Troth
Mace is right. Use EXT3 for most things. Use EXT2 for things which will ever be shared. (RO) I also like to use EXT2 for things which don't (or shouldn't) change much, if only because they MIGHT get shared or mounted RO at some later time. The journalling on EXT3 is annoying when you try to go

Re: introducing NORD Linux

2010-08-12 Thread Richard Troth
Linux is that it can be profiled at startup from a file in CMS space. You create (default) PROFILE SH on the 191, and it gets executed automagically. If it's missing, no pain, NORD doesn't complain. -- R;   On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 21:44, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: VM friends

Re: How to measure XIP benefit

2010-08-10 Thread Richard Troth
Barton might have some hard numbers, since Velocity has been pushing XIP for quite a while now. The benefit is academically obvious. To get your own measurement, you'll need a multiplicity of guests and you'll want to measure VM host load (esp paging) and Linux guest throughput (esp starting

Re: BFS problem

2010-08-05 Thread Richard Troth
The statements are the same, but does that mean that group system is in fact defined? Check for that group in your POSIXGROUP statements. The DMSOVO2129E message says it's looking for a GID, the number behind the name. Forgive me if you already know this. A lot of VMers are still new to POSIX

Re: Looking for Knights of VM

2010-08-03 Thread Richard Troth
Typo, Tony, -- You mean all in joust. -- Sir Santa; On 2010-08-02, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: OH NO! Knighthood has gone to their heads. Now they are better than us and need their own sandbox to play in 'cause they can't be bothered with us mere mortals. (All in jest.)

Re: InfoZIP ZIP/UNZIP: Updating the VM/CMS port

2010-07-24 Thread Richard Troth
Whatever you do, keep it a single token filename/fileid for the SFS and CMS references in zip space. But, yeah, support BFS too. On 2010-07-24, Al Dunsmuir al.dunsm...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello Alan, On Friday, July 23, 2010, 5:16:48 PM, you wrote: On Friday, 07/23/2010 at 04:56 EDT,

Re: z/VM c/c++ or REXX for socket programming??

2010-07-12 Thread Richard Troth
If the application is purely C source at this point, I recommend that you first try recompiling it on CMS as-is. Also investigate the POSIX environment of both MVS (z/OS USS) and CMS (z/VM OpenVM). With care, an executable can be produced that runs perfectly in either environment. There are

details about NORD Linux

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Troth
Here is the longer note with some details about NORD. First, where to get it ... http://www.casita.net/pub/nord/ There is some crude 'make' logic to get it running under Hercules. Also, at lease one VMer has reported that he took that and figured out how to run it on VM. The most

introducing NORD Linux

2010-06-28 Thread Richard Troth
VM friends -- Here's something I hope to mention on the Linux/390 discussion, but thought I should share it here first because it is inspired by z/VM ... and Mother. NORD is a Linux build intended for embedded use (eg: as a service virtual machine, a rescue system, or any utility Linux). I was

Re: Shared fcp with two linuxguests

2010-06-23 Thread Richard Troth
For the problem you describe, I would expect a specific busy message. tdcrac02 kernel: zfcp: unit erp failed on unit 0x0020 on port 0x5001738001820141 on adapter 0.0.8001 In any case, are you using a shared physical FCP adapter? You'll then also need NPIV. Without NPIV, a single

Re: Shared fcp with two linuxguests

2010-06-23 Thread Richard Troth
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:26 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Shared fcp with two linuxguests For the problem you describe, I would expect a specific

Re: zfcp questions

2010-06-08 Thread Richard Troth
Phil -- I don't immediately see anything wrong with your adapter config file. I would recommend using the scripts included in the S390 Tools package. In particular, ... /sbin/zfcp_host_configure 0.0.0800 1 /sbin/zfcp_disk_configure 0l0.0800 0x597208239950 0x000e

Re: OpenSystems FBA question

2010-06-03 Thread Richard Troth
I found that we can in fact share a LUN across LPARs. Had to use NPIV -or- use different physical FCP adapters because multiple login from the same FCP WWPN may be impossible or at least impractical. So with NPIV, the same physical FCP adapter will have a different WWPN for each LPAR, even for

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread Richard Troth
I have built it recently. So if you just need validation: confirmed. Yep, it works. Thanks to changes made available in 4.0.0 it actually builds according to the standard recipe. Vewy nice. As a result, both OORexx and Regina are available for both i386 (32 bit) and s390 (32 bit) on a

Re: Defining non-3390 T-Disks

2010-04-24 Thread Richard Troth
... or T3370 or T3350 ... or T3330? How far back would you want to go? :-) What RR said. You must have the same kind of physical disk in temp land as the particular temp type you're defining. Of course, VFB-512 uses RAM to fake it, presenting a virtual 9336 because a physical 9336 (and a

Re: z/VM not seeing storage from SAN

2010-04-20 Thread Richard Troth
I am a little confused about what WWPN goes where in your case. Based on prior email, C05076FAE3000400 is the WWPN of your virtual FCP adapter (because NPIV is in place). It starts with a C. But 50060E80042CC20C looks to me more like a storage side WWPN. What is the real WWPN of your FCP

Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Richard Troth
Use 'term conmode 3270'. On 2010-04-09, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated integrated 3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding. From the guest's logon console I do: cp terminal conmode 3215 cp terminal

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other real 3270s and like LDEV. On 2010-03-31, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: I think I found a bug in the behaviour of an OSA ICC: Experienced CMS programmers know that to start tracing a looping XEDIT macro can

Re: Interrupting a looping exec on OSA ICC

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Troth
[oopppsss - try again] ICC also doesn't support NOHOLD for DISCONN and LOGOFF like some other real 3270s and like LDEV. That's a whole nutha discussion. But ... does PCOMM not have an immediate PA1? (I'm not used to an ATTN sequence for PA1.) You wouldn't get the trace, but you'd get

Re: What does this wait state PSW mean?

2010-02-18 Thread Richard Troth
This is a normal PSW when you vary off a processor. Happens all the time, as one bard put it. On 2010-02-17, Leland Lucius lluc...@homerow.net wrote: After varying off a processor, we received a disabled wait PSW of: 0bad0bad0bad0bad0bad0bad0bad0b ad Systems still active and we

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Troth
, Dave Wade g4...@dpwade.eclipse.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: 05 January 2010 01:04 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down

Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe

2010-01-04 Thread Richard Troth
Actually, Jack nailed it. (And so did Solomon, for that matter.) In context, running the stuff on Windows is truly nothing new under the sun. But some shops will do that because someone thinks Windows is sexier than VM or MVS or Unix or ... whatever. Vanity! I confess that I find Ecclesiastes

Re: Linux and VM SAN advice

2009-12-21 Thread Richard Troth
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 17:50, Martha McConaghy u...@vm.marist.edu wrote: ... I have to now move our production Oracle database server over to SAN in the next few months (its using CKD volumes tied together with LVM right now). You will probably continue to use LVM. I recommend that. One

Re: Linux and VM SAN advice

2009-12-21 Thread Richard Troth
About Sir Santa's General Rule for Disk ... On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 22:02, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: ... General rule: use LVM and avoid partitioning * I have to be careful when I say avoid partitioning. If you use CDL, which is the default low-level formatting for ECKD DASD

Re: MSGD / REXXWAIT

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
MSGD might should just be re-written with Pipes. The protocol is really easy. (You could possibly skip the IDENT support if you control the clients.) See the RFC: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1312 On 2009-12-02, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: I have MSGD running, but with

Re: Opps! Error message from LASTING GLOBALV! Help!!!

2009-11-24 Thread Richard Troth
It looks like you tried to share that disk R/W between two CMS virtual machines. Don't. z/VM allows two virtual machines to have simultaneous R/W access. But for that capability to be effective, both of the guest operating systems must know about each other having the R/W link and have the

Re: General question

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Troth
556 on two z/10s, 184 in production and 372 dev/test. -- R; On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 14:53, August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com wrote: those running LINUX guest's - how many are you running Is anyone running any where near a 1000, there was a post on the Z/os list regarding thanks,

Re: Freeware 3270 emulation on Windows XP to connect to z/VM

2009-11-10 Thread Richard Troth
As John said, X3270 is free-of-charge and comes with CYGWIN. I recommend that you consider CYGWIN, if you are saddled with Windoze, even apart from CYGWIN/X or X3270. X3270 is rough around the edges, but is much better than some X based apps that we tolerate and there is the value of

Re: Questions on RSCS and LINUX users

2009-10-15 Thread Richard Troth
I have some code in the POSIX flavor of 'sendfile' that can extract NETDATA. Will hafta dig that out. Punching tarballs is another great way to convey metadata along with the content. On 2009-10-15, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: You could also let the Linux user extract

Re: Questions on RSCS and LINUX users

2009-10-15 Thread Richard Troth
[Now that I am at the office and have a proper keyboard.] To do what you're asking, you really need to get the Linux system joined with the RSCS network. Sine Nomine has an implementation of NJE for Unix/POSIX that is reported to work well on Linux. Meanwhile ... not knowing the details of your

Re: Access Linux Files From CMS

2009-10-15 Thread Richard Troth
Let me second what Dave Jones said: try the CMS NFS client. If you're using CMS to manage Linux guests, it's a really handy tool. For example, consider that Linux is running NFS to share a directory called /export/stuff. You could: openvm mount /../VMBFS:VMSYS:ROOT/ / openvm

Re: Access Linux Files From CMS

2009-10-15 Thread Richard Troth
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:39 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Access Linux Files From CMS Let me second what Dave Jones said: try the CMS NFS client. If you're

Re: Access Linux Files From CMS

2009-10-15 Thread Richard Troth
] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Access Linux Files From CMS Let me second what Dave Jones said: try the CMS NFS client.  If you're using CMS to manage Linux guests, it's a really handy tool.  For example, consider

Re: Linux and z/VM Wiki

2009-09-16 Thread Richard Troth
You should require accounts. Further, you should have them controlled by an admin or moderator. Otherwise any script kiddie at a cafe in Bangladesh could clobber the content. On 2009-09-16, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main The idea of having

Re: Chunk (RAW Block) access to DS8000 storage

2009-07-30 Thread Richard Troth
SAN? -- R; On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 16:06, Gary M. Dennisgary.den...@mantissa.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to access very large chunks of DS8000 storage without minidisk definitions? We are looking for a way to allocate substantial increments of storage (several terabytes at

Re: DISCONNECT/LOGOFF HOLD

2009-07-29 Thread Richard Troth
The convenient way to do this is to write a DISCONN EXEC and a LOGOFF EXEC. But ... [sigh] ... if I had a dime for every time I wished just the opposite, that an SNA or ICC terminal would go away when I disconnect or log off, that the associated TCP session would close. It's annoying that my

Re: CP Query wildcards

2009-07-01 Thread Richard Troth
By the way ... Unix cheats. The shell expands all wildcards, which I have always said is a mistake because it presumes on the context. The shell can only expand wildcards that are filenames. Not everything you might want to wildcard is a file. Wouldn't it be nice if you could 'ifconfig eth*'?

Re: Shared File System Interface

2009-05-01 Thread Richard Troth
Layers upon layers. Or ... airport hubs and multi-hop flights. You need to go from Nashville to Brimingham, but you're flying Delta. Well, Delta's hub is in Atlanta, so your trip will have a layover there. Might as well drive! Maybe you got a new office. You're spartan enough, so you can haul

Re: Shared File System Interface

2009-05-01 Thread Richard Troth
Maybe some of us should reverse-engineer it. Surely it can't be as bad as NTF... er, uh, ... a certain other filesystem which has required reverse engineering to get it into Linux land. -- R; On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Friday,

Re: ESC key in zVM ?

2009-04-20 Thread Richard Troth
Careful: VM does have an escape concept. (two of them) But clearly, here you mean to send an ASCII Escape character to a Linux guest. That would be ^[ on your virtual console command line. -- R; On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Lim Ming Liang limm...@streamyx.com wrote: I was in the

Re: MAC and DAC in vm/RACF

2009-04-09 Thread Richard Troth
Hmmm... If you think about it, all access controls (for a Class G virtual machine) are mandatory by nature. The virtual machine cannot discretionarily circumvent those limits which are mandatorily placed on it by the hypervisor. This would be true for RACF or for any other ESM ... even none.

Re: OpenExtension question

2009-04-02 Thread Richard Troth
One exciting development recently is improved portability from USS to CMS OE. What that means is you can compile something on USS and expect it to run on OpenVM. There are limits: If the resulting executable calls some z/OS service, then expect it to ABEND and take down your whole OE

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Richard Troth
I cannot say enough good about how Endicott implemented OpenVM ... now some 15+ years ago. The way the POSIX info is rolled into the CP Dir is spot on. There are issues, notably performance concerns and a gross lack of attention (thanks to the distracting popularity of Linux on VM). But the

Re: Puzzle or what?

2009-03-17 Thread Richard Troth
Sure, your defaults could be set to low as Ed suggested, but the default low where you would not see everything is like 200, so I don't think that is the problem. My guess is that Scott's note came close: But the format is NETDATA rather than CR/LF per se. If the file was sent in NETDATA

Re: Must be Friday: Mainframe USBs!

2009-03-08 Thread Richard Troth
Florian Bilek wrote: Would be interesting to format an USB device in ECKD mode. Is this possible ??? ;-) Probably that goes only together with an FICON attached USB-Reader costing only 250.000$ allowing for ONE USB stick at a time. Great ;-) -- Best regards Florian Bilek No, it is

Re: fcp disk under SUSE9

2009-03-06 Thread Richard Troth
We use FCP with SLES 9 all the time. Is your disk on two paths? If so, then you also need to have MPIO installed and running. (multipathd and boot.multipath) You ran mkinitrd and zipl, but did you notice if they were successful? Is /boot on its own disk? Is it mounted RW? Is the underlying

remembering PGP

2009-03-03 Thread Richard Troth
Long ago, in a galaxy close to where I am this week, there was a PGP MODULE. It was built by a kind person at MIT (which is NOT close to where I am this week) and worked exactly as one would expect it to work. Maybe some day we will have a PGP for CMS again. Dunno. Recently, PGP got

Re: OPENVM MOUNT syntax question.

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Troth
The syntax I use is openvm mount /../NFS:server/shared /local/point where server is either the server's hostname or its address and shared is the exported filesystem (or a usable subdirectory of it) and /local/point is a pre-existing (usu empty) directory in your BFS space. You will

Re: OPENVM MOUNT syntax question.

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Troth
, Rick. I don't really understand what you mean by shared is the exported file system; do you mean that something must be done on the MVS side to make the sequential dataset accessible by the CMS NFS client? I understand about the BFS requirements over on the CMS side. Richard Troth wrote

Re: OPENVM MOUNT syntax question.

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Troth
point. -- Ortiz and Starr On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: Richard Troth wrote: If, for example, I have a Linux box which serves out /export/home, then the mount command on a Linux client would be ... mount -t nfs linuxbox:/export

Re: IPGATE -vs- BFS

2009-02-20 Thread Richard Troth
-0500, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: Richard - Try the OPENVM DEBUG command to see if that will give a clue about what is going wrong. I would start with OPENVM DEBUG MSG or OPENVM DEBUG MOUNT. The command is documented in the OpenExtensions Command Reference. Mary Ellen Carollo

IPGATE -vs- BFS

2009-02-18 Thread Richard Troth
So ... We're enjoying the wonderful function of IPGATE. Ahhh... Now have a habit of grabbing SFS directories remotely. File and content manglement is so much better! We also have a smattering of things in BFS land. Sharing BFS spaces is needed less frequently than sharing SFS directories, but

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Troth
The overhead is real, but its cost is not clear. The difference between the performance of direct FCP -vs- EDEV has not been fully measured (or at least not widely reported.) I'm still looking for numbers. Which is faster? For a guest to perform QDIO or for CP to handle it? Traditionally, we

Re: RSCS Address in use error

2008-12-15 Thread Richard Troth
Is the address on YOUR end already in use? LPR/LPD protocol has (or used to) a requirement that the clients connected from a limitted range of ports (including the same port as used for target). So if you already have an LPR/LPD server on your end or if you have used up all of the client ports

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-15 Thread Richard Troth
You want EDEV. EDEV lets FCP disks look like traditional FBA DASD, so you can slice them up into minidisks, quite like CKD. The way it works is you define an EDEV at some otherwise not-in-use RDEV address, then add WWPN and LUN for each path to the intended FCP disk. You then VARY ON the EDEV

Re: Adding a SWAP file to a running z/LInux guest

2008-11-26 Thread Richard Troth
On any Linux distribution, you can in a pinch create swap space from a regular file: mkdir -p -m 700 /var/swap touch -m 600 /var/swap/moreswap dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swap/moreswap bs=8192 count=8192 mkswap /var/swap/moreswap swapon /var/swap/moreswap

Re: z/VM 5.4.0 CMS commands are now mixed case

2008-11-18 Thread Richard Troth
What a mess! Very confusing. For clarification, Ray is asking (and please confirm, Ray) about the ECHOING of certain commands. UCENG (or other SET LANG) would apply to RESPONSES from commands. Vewy diffewent. In my experience, commands echoed by CMS are echoed as entered and have been for a

Re: LPAR + Linux + Xen

2008-11-18 Thread Richard Troth
LPAR implies the s390 (or s390x) instruction set and architecture. Xen implies the i386 (or ia64 or x86_64) instruction set and architecture. The two are really unrelated. -- Rick; On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to know if anyone of you

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