Hi
I have a dilemma. All of my z/Linux DASD volumes are formatted for a
VTOC on cylinder zero so that I can leverage the z/OS DFDSS backups of
these volumes. No problem, however I am getting this one guest ready for
DR and as such running DFDSS on z/OS to accomplish this. This particular
, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DR Backup using DFDSS
Hi
I have a dilemma. All of my z/Linux DASD volumes are formatted for a
VTOC on cylinder zero so that I can leverage the z/OS DFDSS backups of
these volumes. No problem
If you are going to DDR, or DFDSS for that matter, the linux should be down.
If you take a DDR dump while the guest is still up and running your restore
has a good chance of not running.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers
framaek...@ailife.comwrote:
I don’t know
Subject: DR Backup using DFDSS
Hi
I have a dilemma. All of my z/Linux DASD volumes are formatted for a VTOC on
cylinder zero so that I can leverage the z/OS DFDSS backups of these volumes.
No problem, however I am getting this one guest ready for DR and as such
running DFDSS on z/OS
Hi
Yes, I knew that the backup would be a 'fuzzy' one but I have not had an
issue with restoring since I am doing a physical cylinder by cylinder
backup. We do use FDRUPSTREAM to handle the incremental and full backups
of all the DASD for each guest, but the DFDSS is a little different
We use C.A.'s Vmbackup with the HIDRO DR option.
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Sent: Thu Aug 12 10:49:58 2010
Subject: Re: DR Backup using DFDSS
I don’t know
Can you can vary/mount the volume onto zOS? If yes, you should be able to
use DFDSS to back it up.
Were you using the CPVOLume parameter on the dump?
Thx
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the incremental and full backups of all the
DASD for
each guest, but the DFDSS is a little different.
Not had an issue *yet*, I think you meant to say. It may simply be fuzzy,
or it may be positively hirsute. Out-of-band backups of dasd,
particularly multiple volumes, is a disaster waiting
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:08 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DR Backup using DFDSS
On 8/12/2010 at 10:44 AM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
I have a dilemma. All of my z/Linux DASD volumes are formatted for a
VTOC on cylinder zero so that I can leverage the z/OS DFDSS backups of
these volumes. No problem, however I am getting this one guest
On Thursday, 08/12/2010 at 12:38 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
Thanks Alan. I would love to be able to shut the guests down while I am
backing them up but unfortunately this guest was converted over from the
Solaris side where they never brought the
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Post
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:09 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DR Backup using DFDSS
On 8/12/2010 at 10:44
Couldn't your ESM just be a NOP program, just for such
situations?
Les
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 04:57 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
Thanks Alan. BTW, the floor system at our Hot Site does not have RACF
nor for that matter any other
On Wednesday, 03/31/2010 at 02:22 EDT, Les Koehler
vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Couldn't your ESM just be a NOP program, just for such
situations?
For various values of NOP, yes. Look at Appendix D of the z/OS RACROUTE
Reference. (Works the same way on z/VM.)
Alan Altmark
z/VM
, March 29, 2010 3:25 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM
On Monday, 03/29/2010 at 02:02 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
The problem that I am having is that I am receiving an Authority error
on the
ADMINSTRATOR keyword
On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 04:57 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
Thanks Alan. BTW, the floor system at our Hot Site does not have RACF
nor for that matter any other ESM. You can in fact run z/OS without an
ESM.
You can run MVS and some of the subsystems,
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM
On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 04:57 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
Thanks Alan. BTW, the floor system at our Hot Site does not have RACF
nor for that matter any other ESM. You can in fact run z/OS
HI,
I am at the Hotsite and I am trying to restore my VM volumes under DFDSS
on z/OS. The input statement for the restore is:
RESTORE -
ADMINISTRATOR -
TRKS(0,0,30050,14)
INDD(BKVM170K)-
OUTDD(VM170K) -
CPVOLUME
Terry,
I don't think racf has anything to do with the admin keyword, it lets
you act as a dfdss storage admin.
Dumb question, have you tired without admin??
Worst that can happen is it won't work like it isn't working now.
Mace
From: The IBM z/VM Operating
Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:01 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM
HI,
I am at the Hotsite and I am trying to restore my VM volumes under DFDSS
on z/OS. The input statement for the restore is:
RESTORE
Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Macioce, Larry
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:21 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM
Well in further reading I have stuck my foot, or should I say my fingers
in my mouth. It talks of creating discrete
--- On Mon, 3/29/10, Macioce, Larry larry.maci...@com.state.oh.us wrote:
From: Macioce, Larry larry.maci...@com.state.oh.us
Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 2:20 PM
Well in further reading I have stuck my
foot
On Monday, 03/29/2010 at 02:02 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
The problem that I am having is that I am receiving an Authority error
on the
ADMINSTRATOR keyword. The Hotsite system we are on does not have RACF. I
tried
removing the keyword but
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Mark Wheeler
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:07 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Copying one z/VM to another using DFDSS
Terry,
Let's assume for a moment that both MAINT CF1 and MAINT 2CC live
volumes for the new
system
I am not too sure of how to load the new USER DIRECTORY. Can I create
another one on the RES pack that is being copied and then specify that
USER DIRECTORY at IPL time? Not sure!
BTW, I am using DFDSS to do a full volume copy and a restore.
Thank You,
Terry
I neglected to mention that the new USERC DIRECT A must be copied back to the
appropriate SYSC-owned mdisk (MAINT 2CC?) as USER DIRECT.
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:41:01 -0500
From: mwheele...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Copying one z/VM to another using DFDSS
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
8:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Copying one z/VM to another using DFDSS
I neglected to mention that the new USERC DIRECT A must be copied back
to the appropriate SYSC-owned mdisk (MAINT 2CC?) as USER DIRECT.
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:41:01
On: Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 08:41:36PM -0400,Martin, Terry R.
(LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) Wrote:
} Thanks for the information. The one thing I forgot to mention was that I
} cannot access the new addresses from the z/VM LPAR that I am copying to.
} So that is
them standalone from SALIPL if needed. Saved my bacon
more than once!
Good luck!
Mark
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:36 -0400
From: terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov
Subject: Re: Copying one z/VM to another using DFDSS
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the information
system
=20
I am not too sure of how to load the new USER DIRECTORY. Can I create
another one on the RES pack that is being copied and then specify that
USER DIRECTORY at IPL time? Not sure!
=20
BTW, I am using DFDSS to do a full volume copy and a restore.
=20
Thank You,
=20
Terry Martin
) or, more likely, it will not be VOL1. FDR/DFDSS need to
handle these cases. There's a reason that volume labels follow a set of
standards! :-)
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
to with DFDSS, not a why overall didn't it work which is
why I asked if the volume was formatted. We had a guy here get a new
vol, which had ickdsf run against it from z/OS, did the cpfmtxa label
only, then filled it with our new experimental sles 10 sp2 shared
root set up. z/OS failed to back it up
Hi
Just installed z/VM 5.4 and wanted to make a backup from a z/OS LPAR.
DFDSS does not like the vm formatted volume
tried:
DUMP INDDNAME(INDD)-
OUTDDNAME(OUTDD) -
COMPRESS -
OPT(4)
also tried
Subject: DFDSS Dump VM formatted volumes
Hi
Just installed z/VM 5.4 and wanted to make a backup from a z/OS LPAR.
DFDSS does not like the vm formatted volume
tried:
DUMP INDDNAME(INDD)-
OUTDDNAME(OUTDD) -
COMPRESS
...@daimler.com wrote:
Hi
Just installed z/VM 5.4 and wanted to make a backup from a z/OS LPAR.
DFDSS does not like the vm formatted volume
tried:
DUMP INDDNAME(INDD)-
OUTDDNAME(OUTDD) -
COMPRESS -
OPT(4
] On Behalf
Of frank.r...@daimler.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:04 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DFDSS Dump VM formatted volumes
Hi
Just installed z/VM 5.4 and wanted to make a backup from a z/OS LPAR.
DFDSS does not like the vm formatted volume
tried:
DUMP INDDNAME(INDD
Further update... Fixtest OA27531 is available and I have tested this
and it works fine. It allows DUMP and RESTORE from z/OS.
IBM is still working on a fix to allow RETORE from a bad DUMP taken
previously.
Regards,
Fred Schmidt
DCS DBE
NT Government, Australia
Thanks Fred! Going to z/OS 1.10 this year.
Thanks,
Nick
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Fred Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Heads Up - z/OS 1.10 DFDSS DUMP's of z/VM and z/Linux volumes
An update on this... IBM now expects a fix to be available early next
week.
Regards,
Fred Schmidt
DCS DBE
NT Government, Australia
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Fred Schmidt
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:44 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [IBMVM] Heads Up - z/OS 1.10 DFDSS DUMP's of z/VM and z/Linux
volumes fail silently
Just a heads-up to a problem we discovered today
Just a heads-up to a problem we discovered today, which has the
potential to bite somebody. We went to restore some z/VM and z/Linux
DASD that had been backed up via z/OS 1.10 DFDSS and it failed with...
IOS000I 115B,20,CMD,E7,0E00,,E3D9D2F0,LNX025,FUSREST6, 778
Hi,
We have backed up one of our Linux guest to tape track by track
(Physical) using DFDSS. Now we want to RESTORE the guest from the tape.
Anyone know the control cards necessary to make this happen with DFDSS?
Thank You,
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:27 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Restoring from DFDSS backup from tape
Hi,
We have backed up one of our Linux guest to tape track by track (Physical
Thanks Paul, this worked great!
Terry
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Feller, Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:36 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Restoring from DFDSS backup from tape
Just
I think David, with Mike's correction is correct. We've got 2nd level
MVS machines that are used for our D/R tests. We always start the
exercise by loading the D/R backup tapes from S/A DFDSS. The consoles
on the 2nd level MVS id's are specified as being 3270 rather than 3215.
Works just
While I hesitate to correct David, in this case a correction is
warranted.
The proper command is:
CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270
Perhaps David's suffering Monday Syndrome?
More like what idiot decided that Solaris kernel configuration files
should be in XML syndrome.
Mike is (of
.
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:20 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/vm dfdss standalone ipl console
Some IPLable utilities require an interrupt so that the utility can
Hi,
We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0 service level 0702 (64-bit)
We have a standalone z/OS DFDSS 1.7 which we intend to IPL
from a z/VM guest to restore a tape backup to a dasd.
Upon IPL from tape (i.e. IPL 181 clear), we were able to load
the standalone dfdss program
I've got a site that is trying to use their VM system (4.4 on an IFL) to
stage MVS volumes for disaster recovery.
They dump the MVS system off using DFDSS, and restore them onto the
disaster system using standalone DFDSS under VM
This way they don't need to actually run and licence MVS
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20
When they attempt to IPL the Standalone DFDSS code.
Has the IBM IFL code on the z9 series changed?
Anybody have any other suggestions?
Brian
Eric Schadow
Mainframe Technical Support
www.davisvision.com
Correct. An IFL will not run z/OS, or z/VSE code.
On 3/9/07, Eric Schadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brian
I am pretty sure that IFL's can only run z/VM and Linux.
--
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.
And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the
volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.
DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed
this unique
thingy you may have heard of called a Virtual Machine.
If one is at a DR site and logs on multiple of these Virtual Machine
thingies, each one *could* start a separate S/A DFDSS restore process.
If a master Virtual Machine thingy logged on and started CMS, in theory
(and in practice for us
A gotcha if you are intending to get a starter system up and running
with the *MVS *version of DFDSS or ADRDSSU or whatever it's called is
that it cannot restore a CPVOL initialized disk. Says so right there in
the ADRDSSU manual. We are doing our D/R with the idea of getting up a
small
But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in
the
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR. They are serial
activities.
Restoring a 1 pack VM system, then doing multiple DFDSS restores
Alan Altmark wrote:
DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs. As
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it
won't run. If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back
it up. DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 05:30 EST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Restoring a 1 pack VM system, then doing multiple DFDSS restores allows
you to have multiple restores occur in parallel, up to the number of
tape drives you have available, which dramatically speed up the restore
process
On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 05:30 EST, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Alan Altmark wrote:
DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs. As
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it
won't run. If you plan to restore an MVS system from
It appears from this thread that the question and most of the responses
referred to backing up Linux volumes, but I discovered something last
spring or so when we were polishing up our D/R backups. We use DFDSS on
z/OS to do full volume D/R dumps for both our MVS as well as our VM
dumps. My
Title: DFDSS
This is the method we use. We shut the
guest down first because if you dont he gets very angry . We have
restored form this to a vol also. If you need some jcl Id be more than happy
to submit.
mace
From: The IBM z/VM
Operating System
Title: DFDSS
Anybody backing up VM volumes using this on z/OS?
Marcy Cortes
Enterprise Hosting Services - z/VM and z/Linux
(415) 243-6343
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We use FDR on zOS to backup VM volumes.
At 03:45 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote:
Anybody backing up
VM volumes using this on z/OS?
Marcy Cortes
Enterprise Hosting Services
- z/VM and z/Linux
(415) 243-6343
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We have done this. I can send you some sample JCL if you need it.
/Tom Kern
/301-903-2211
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:45:34 -0500, Marcy Cortes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody backing up VM volumes using this on z/OS?
Marcy Cortes
Enterprise Hosting Services - z/VM and z/Linux
(415) 243-6343
We use FDR, but DFDSS should be able to do it with no problems. Just make sure
to stop whichever guest you are backing up before you do your backup.
Jon
snip
Anybody backing up VM volumes using this on z/OS?
/snip
Title: DFDSS
See recent Linux390 list archives for all
the reasons why this is a bad idea. Short version: if you can afford to shut
down the VM system completely, you can use methods outside VM and/or Linux to
do reliable dumps of VM volumes. If you dump an active system (particularly one
: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:00 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DFDSS
Anybody backing up VM volumes using this on z/OS?
Marcy Cortes
Enterprise Hosting Services
- z/VM and z/Linux
(415) 243-6343
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Title: DFDSS
Yep, I know about all that. I'm talking about the
DASD volumes that Linux minidisks are on, not the VM ones. Linux will be
down at the time (we have 2 z9-109, well actually soon will be on 5), on
1systemat a time. We just need to shorten that backup downtime
in order to be able
2006 12:50 PMTo:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: [IBMVM]
DFDSS
We use FDR on zOS to backup VM volumes.At 03:45 PM
9/20/2006, you wrote:
Anybody backing up VM
volumes using this on z/OS? Marcy Cortes Enterprise Hosting Services - z/VM and
z/Linux (415)
243-6343 This message may
co
Mace,
Add the COPYVOLID parameter.
COPYVOLID specifies that the volser of the original source volume will be
copied to the target volume. If you don't specify COPYVOLID, the target
volume volser will remain the same as it was before the restore.
Charlie
State of Wyoming
A q 633a shows it is the name I gave it(lprwrc) not the relabeled(origina
l)
name(l2pr01). So I guess I should add it as the name I gave it(lprwrc). N
ow
why didn't the label get overwritten??
thanks
Mace
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