[PEIRCE-L] semiotic theory applied to a real universe

2021-06-15 Thread Stephen Jarosek
, is self-evident when we factor in our semiotic paradigm. And so on. Regards Stephen Jarosek *CHNOPS - the elements essential to life are strewn throughout the cosmos _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIR

[PEIRCE-L] Imitation, the neglected axiom

2020-11-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
an axiomatic framework for the semiotic and life sciences. Stephen Jarosek _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a m

[PEIRCE-L] imitation as fundamental principle even for matter

2020-04-27 Thread Stephen Jarosek
out the cosmos, would not be possible without entanglement, I suggest. This is a living universe. Entanglement is semiosis (assimitation) at the level of matter, and it is how matter "knows" its properties. Entanglement-as-assimitation is integral to solving the entropy problem. Regards Stephen J

[PEIRCE-L] Heidegger's Dasein as "knowing how to be" (pragmatism)

2019-06-13 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, Is anyone here conversant with the work of Martin Heidegger? I'm researching Heidegger's Dasein in the context of "knowing how to be". My thesis is that Dasein IS "knowing how to be". This has implications for imitation-as-pragmatism, which relates directly to Peirce's pragmatism, and how w

RE: Re: Trinity, Continuity, and the Cosmotheandric, was, [PEIRCE-L] Re: Continuity of Semeiosis Revisite

2019-05-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Mary, list I am of the view that there is no such thing as patriarchal culture. The role of Culture is to process the relationship between the known and the unknown. Hence all cultures are comprised of the duality that is matriarchal-patriarchal. [This relates to my interest in the concept of

RE: Re: Re: Trinity, Continuity, and the Cosmotheandric, was, [PEIRCE-L] Re: Continuity of Semeiosis Revisited

2019-05-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
EDWINA >"I'm only interested in a merit-based authority." As it should be. This is equal opportunity. Equal outcome, on the other hand, is bias. Equal outcome requires equal opportunity to be denied. Equal outcome, for example, allocates victim credits to people based on skin color or racial b

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-26 Thread Stephen Jarosek
bout pantographs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52 Best, Auke Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Ste

RE: RE: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
gious, and cultural identity regardless of biological and ethnical disposition, is necessary to prevent dictationship and discrimination. Best, Helmut 22. Februar 2019 um 08:36 Uhr "Stephen Jarosek" wrote: I think we might be committing something of a category error here with regards

RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-23 Thread Stephen Jarosek
assimitation. sj From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:37 AM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' Cc: 'Auke van Breemen'; 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entrop

RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Jarosek
need to be explored. Thank you Edwina and Helmut for raising them. sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 6:06 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; Helmut Raulien Cc: 'Auke van Breemen'; 'Peirce-L'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: A

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Jarosek
aptability to circumstances is seriously hindered in this way. And indeed, as you state, it appears as an inability to mimic social wished behavior. Until, that is, one succeeds in getting attention for the social problems, in that case a social scientist may be the result. Best, Auk

[PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
thout realizing that the assuming is, at its core, a product of imitation. Regards, Stephen Jarosek From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 12:14 PM To: 'Helmut Raulien'; 'biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee' Cc: 'tabor...@primus

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:9301] Biosemiotics on YouTube

2019-01-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
I approve of this message. Good stuff here… scope for bringing biosem to the public… entertaining, clear explanations, much potential for a platform that connects. sj From: biosemiotics-requ...@lists.ut.ee [mailto:biosemiotics-requ...@lists.ut.ee] On Behalf Of VN Alexander Sent: Sunda

RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-12-09 Thread Stephen Jarosek
tabor...@primus.ca Cc: Stephen Jarosek; tabor...@primus.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Aw: Re: RE: RE: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis Edwina, list, I see. I think, there are two different meanings of "culture": Fir

RE: RE: RE: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-12-08 Thread Stephen Jarosek
to assimitation/imitation and knowing how to be, but we can clearly distinguish the latter as groupthink, with its emphasis on personal need. Regards, sj From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de] Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 12:06 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: tabor...@primus.ca; peirc

RE: RE: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-12-07 Thread Stephen Jarosek
int of my opposition against culturalism/ overestimation of culture. Intention is to help deescalate culture clashes. Best, Helmut 06. Dezember 2018 um 11:20 Uhr "Stephen Jarosek" HELMUT >”"This is the first day of the rest of my life", and can therefore rely on no

RE: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-12-06 Thread Stephen Jarosek
l...@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:17 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; tabor...@primus.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Aw: RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis Stephen, list, I see your points, and

RE: [biosemiotics:9293] [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-12-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
dogma is in accord with democratic achievements like separation of powers, civil and human rights, freedom of speech, press, religion..., mobility (travel, work, and habitation freedom...). This dogma stands in opposition against right-wing people-think (volkskoerper), compulsory communism, and exces

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:9289] Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-11-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
med 'conciousness' and 'cognition') perhaps it can be considered a special case of entropy. Which brings me back to the questions: What was the very first instance of semiosis and why, where and how did it occur? What preceded it, and what triggered it? Best, Dipti. On Thu, 29

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:9287] Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-11-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
. the "knowing how to be", imitation and pragmatism. sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; Stephen Jarosek Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:9287] Systems theory, DNA ent

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-11-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
es not depend on any single person´s participation, and a person can quit one system and join another, without much harm or benefit done to both systems and the person. (Lest the system is a mafia that says you quit only with your feet first, but this is an asocial system :-o :-) Best, Helmut 29.

[PEIRCE-L] Systems theory, DNA entanglement, agents and semiosis

2018-11-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
this era of rampaging political correctness, with people being unpersoned for holding unapproved opinions, we are policing ourselves into silence. As I am independent of Academia, though, I have nothing to lose, and so I'm so I'm going to say it loud and proud: DNA entanglement. It's

[PEIRCE-L] semiotics everywhere but they don't know it

2018-11-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Has anyone else observed how so many scientific "studies" actually relate to semiotics? I periodically stick my head into the Science-reddit forum for the latest science news, and often the studies that are cited are just exercises in semiotic analysis. They must think it's all in the genes or som

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
nist values are based on unchangeable facts, while cultural conditions are changeable. You may call this view "liberal mainstream arrogance", but that would not be a valid argument. Best, Helmut 31. Oktober 2018 um 21:00 Uhr "Stephen Jarosek" wrote: Helmut, there is little t

RE: Aw: RE: RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
rily happen. Tolerant societies recognise that our thinking is no more a threat than anyone else's (unless it is of course!) Personally I'm not a package dealer so all the tribes can count me out. Thanks Stephen for the primers. I'll try & throw in well-worn phrases as much

RE: RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
We are in it, and we can't see it, like a fish that will never understand water. An objective, valueless logos? Far from it, not even close. -Original Message- From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:36 AM To: 'Helmut Raulien&#

RE: RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-31 Thread Stephen Jarosek
durch eben einen bestimmten Aspekt von Lebensweise abgegrenzt, oder durch andere Grenzen, beispielsweise die einer "Nation", was immer das sein mag (hat was mit "Geburt" zu tun). Auf jeden Fall ist "Kultur" das Ergebnis einer Beobachtung: Etwas seiendes. 30. Ok

RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-30 Thread Stephen Jarosek
the personal. sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:40 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Peirce List'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything? By my saying that 'individuals are equa

RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-30 Thread Stephen Jarosek
fshost.com/biosem/ sj -Original Message- From: michael...@waitrose.com [mailto:michael...@waitrose.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 7:48 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: 'Peirce List' Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything? My name is Michael Mi

RE: [PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
ure we are talking about, if one misreads its cues (imitating incorrectly), the culture's antibodies (its groupthink narratives) will kick in to expel the invading organism (which is you, if you misread the cues). Some cultures are less dominated by groupthink than others, though, and th

[PEIRCE-L] DNA - The key to life, the universe and everything?

2018-10-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
omatic framework. Is DNA the key to understanding the relationship between culture, personality, reincarnation, karma and heaven and hell? No matter how we look at it, there's something strange going on, and nobody gets it. How little we know. So much to wrap our heads around. So much paradigm to sh

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
J): https://youtu.be/4Pjs7uoOkag So don’t apologize… get those who now routinely betray what you believe in to apologize to you… or walk away. sj From: Stephen Curtiss Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:37 PM To: Stephen Jarosek; Peirce List Subject: Re: Re: Re

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:32 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca Cc: Stephen Jarosek; Daniel L Everett; Peirce-L Subject: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain Edwina, Daniel, Stephen, List, I agree with Edwina. I think there are soci

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Nurture and imitation as pragmatism

2018-08-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
rative while using the very narrative that you are questioning? You can’t question your culture’s assumptions from an armchair. You will never be amazed seated in an armchair. sj From: Stephen Curtiss Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 1:05 PM To: Stephen Jarosek;

[PEIRCE-L] Nurture and imitation as pragmatism

2018-08-09 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, following on from our thread on "Culture wires the brain", I want to look more closely at imitation (mimesis, knowing how to be) as a basic form of pragmatism. It now surprises me that something as fundamental and sweeping as imitation goes under everyone's noses, throughout academia, barely

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-08 Thread Stephen Jarosek
> I don't think that the nature/nurture question will ever be resolved! I think that imitation-as-pragmatism would go some ways towards supporting the nurture/blankslate hypothesis. Cats and dogs imitate the things that matter from their human masters to become very different, much more sociable

[PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-08 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, here's an interesting article that resonates with ideas that I've touched on in this forum (culture, neural plasticity, scaffolding, bucket-of-bugs... no such thing as instinct, no such thing as a "blueprint" that wires the brain). I'm not sure whether the author would take it as far as I do,

[PEIRCE-L] Dreams and the nonlocal self

2018-06-22 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, Maybe this is off-topic. But I see that it has relevance to Peirce for a number of reasons, so I thought I’d run it past our forum. CONJECTURE: Could it be that dreams are what we experience when our sleeping self connects with another mind-body located elsewhere? My reasons for taking th

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Democracy (was The real environmental problems...

2018-06-20 Thread Stephen Jarosek
>” but would have focused instead on the fruits of their thinking.” Exactly my point. Relates to the cultural narratives that trickle down throughout culture. From: Stephen Curtiss Rose [mailto:stever...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:31 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: Clark Go

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Democracy (was The real environmental problems...

2018-06-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Democracy (was The real environmental problems... > On Jun 19, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > > Christianity was particularly important to the European renaissance. Why? Not quite sure what you’re asking. Could there have been a different movement

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Democracy (was The real environmental problems...

2018-06-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
gt; On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:53 AM, John F Sowa wrote: > > On 6/19/2018 9:15 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: >> Groupthink is the problem... >> I believe that Christianity might provide some pointers. > > All the religions of the world began at the village level, usually as > a

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Democracy (was The real environmental problems...

2018-06-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
ocracy (was The real environmental problems... On 6/19/2018 5:18 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > to prove that their government-heavy, groupthink-driven, > corruption-prone initiatives are more effective than the efficiencies > to which lean-and-hungry small-government systems are predispose

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The real environmental problems are less scientific and more ethical

2018-06-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Gary, I certainly concur with the points being raised here. The selfishness, in particular, inspires every manner of unfalsifiable conjecture to be spouted, by average scientists trying to be first with a great idea. There's a lot of rubbish swilling around, and this has the effect of dumbing down

RE: : [PEIRCE-L] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-15 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Gary, list I find the certainty with which positions are taken here, and asserted, rather disconcerting. I am not an expert on Peirce at all, so I cannot comment on the verity of what he had said or intended. My own position on the nature of God? I keep out of that conversation. I can no more

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] The failure of Intelligent Design

2018-05-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: Hi Colin, I don’t understand what insights a creator/designer provides as to the nature of existence. What phenomenology explains His motiva

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Transcribing Peirce

2018-03-15 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Thanks Mike, Jeff… we appreciate your efforts From: Mike Bergman [mailto:m...@mkbergman.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:01 AM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Transcribing Peirce Hi Jeff, Good to hear contributions are growing. Of course I will be happy to put

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Scientific inquiry does not involve matters

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Jarosek
>"As for myself, I have never agreed with anyone else's paraphrase of my >opinions. I always ask people to quote my exact words and not attribute their >interpretations to me. I would give Peirce the same benefit of the doubt." Excellent. As it should be. I cannot comment on the truth or othe

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Scientific inquiry does not involve matters

2018-03-13 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Edwina, Eugene looks to me like an SJW red flag. What’s an SJW? Social Justice Warrior. They often team up with the likes of Antifa, and will go out of their way to cause grief with any wrong-think that they don’t agree with. Right-vs-Left politics in America is getting ugly. And the far-Left is

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The concept of system is just a human abstraction

2018-02-19 Thread Stephen Jarosek
rry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 AM To: Peirce List Cc: John F Sowa; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The concept of system is just a human abstraction List, John, Stephen: A few technical comment from a chemist may be helpful here because

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The concept of system is just a human abstraction

2018-02-18 Thread Stephen Jarosek
10:24 AM , John F Sowa s...@bestweb.net sent: On 2/18/2018 7:40 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > As far as the silicon molecule is concerned, the stone has no context > that is relevant to it. The silicon molecule receives no cue from the > stone as to what its properties should be. That is not tr

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Regards From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:19 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; g...@gnusystems.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; 'Mike Bergman'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature Stephen, list: I'll tr

RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
, December 10, 2017 9:46 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: Edwina Taborsky; Gary Fuhrman; Peirce-L; Mike Bergman Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature What’s so palpable about this ironic situation is that a claim is made by ones who claim Peirce, that the ‘self’ emerges by experience

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
tional routes” that an entity (atom, molecule, cell, animal, etc, etc) can finish up taking, why should it take the route most favorable to life? From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Sunday, Dec

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-11 Thread Stephen Jarosek
imited. Having gotten that formality out of the way, let’s address each of your points in my next post. From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:09 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; g...@gnusystems.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; 'Mike Bergman'; Stephen

RE: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
ker for any kind of information determinism. Regards sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 5:40 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; g...@gnusystems.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; 'Mike Bergman'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Law

RE: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
children, eg, the Wild Boy of Aveyron). Regards From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:26 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; g...@gnusystems.ca; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; 'Mike Bergman'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws

RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

2017-12-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, in the interests of the universality of semiosis, it would be helpful, I believe, to do away entirely with the notion of instinct. No such thing. ALL organism's are decision-makers, making choices from their ecosystems. What one might typically categorize as instinct, in other animals, is

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The Secret Language of Plants

2017-11-25 Thread Stephen Jarosek
EDWINA: “And it IS an aspect of 'Mind'. As Peirce said - "Thought is not necessarily connected with a brain.” Ultimately, the question of what role a brain plays relates to thermodynamics. Plants don’t have brains because the choices that they make from their Umwelts are simple, and in “slow mo

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
sky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:11 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Jeffrey Brian Downard'; 'Helmut Raulien'; Stephen Jarosek Cc: 'Peirce-L' Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories Stephen - you wrote that that some animals

RE: RE: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
er-of-ape-human-speech-theory.html From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:53 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Jeffrey Brian Downard'; 'Helmut Raulien'; Stephen Jarosek Cc: 'Peirce-L' Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PE

RE: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
[mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:01 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Jeffrey Brian Downard'; 'Helmut Raulien'; Stephen Jarosek Cc: 'Peirce-L' Subject: Re: RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories Stephen - interesting; I haven't thought of it tha

RE: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
7 2:41 PM To: 'Jeffrey Brian Downard'; 'Helmut Raulien'; tabor...@primus.ca; Stephen Jarosek Cc: 'Peirce-L' Subject: Re: RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories Stephen - thanks for your outline. My comments are [apart from my view that I don't agree that 'the

RE: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categories

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
While we are on the topic of categories… some time ago, we discussed the role of imitation with respect to pragmatism, and I recall that we arrived at a consensus that yes, imitation is important. But as we watch the western world unravel, I’ve been thinking more and more about the role imitation i

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Collapsing the wave function

2017-09-28 Thread Stephen Jarosek
life into it. Credentialism, as a reflection of contemporary, progressive celebrity-culture, is quite different to authentic scholastic enquiry. Regards -Original Message- From: John F Sowa [mailto:s...@bestweb.net] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 5:10 AM To: Peirce-L; Stephen Jarose

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: Is relativity theory holding back progress in science?

2017-07-23 Thread Stephen Jarosek
— not because the study of physics is irrelevant to the study of semiotics, but because these posts have not been relevant to the study of semiotics or of Peirce. Gary f. -----Original Message- From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] >"I would prefer not to have thes

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] Re: Is relativity theory holding back progress in science?

2017-07-20 Thread Stephen Jarosek
>"I would prefer not to have these emails stuff my folder for Peirce-L. Unless >other Peirce-L subscribers want to read these notes, I suggest that the cc or >bcc to Peirce-L should stop." Before anyone dismisses the study of physics as irrelevant to the study of semiotics, might I suggest tha

[PEIRCE-L] Quantum Semiotics - published paper

2017-06-21 Thread Stephen Jarosek
(it raises fascinating questions with respect to my paper - meaning, will DNA entanglement explain these goings on?): http://www.sciencealert.com/dna-replication-has-been-filmed-for-the-first-ti me-and-it-s-stranger-than-we-thought Stephen Jarosek - PEIRCE-L

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool

2017-04-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
From: Thomas903 [mailto:ozzie...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 10:08 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: PEIRCE-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool Stephen J., List ~ A - "The notion of body-as-tool is a very important one because it sheds light

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool

2017-04-10 Thread Stephen Jarosek
[mailto:trevriz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 10:40 PM To: Thomas903 Cc: Stephen Jarosek; PEIRCE-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool Dear Stephen: I read your piece on Neural Plasticity, at https://www.academia.edu/3236559

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:9231] Re: Transcending Scientism - print version ready

2017-04-05 Thread Stephen Jarosek
ul if you would email me a pdf of your book/ Thanks brian spooner _ From: Stephen Jarosek Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:41:46 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee Subject: [biosemiotics:9225] Transcending Scientism - print version ready now. List, To

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool

2017-04-05 Thread Stephen Jarosek
bark because instinct, silly.” Genocentrism… it’s just not how life works… not by a long shot. Cheers sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 2:18 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon

[PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism and Sign as holon as mind-body as tool

2017-04-05 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, Allow me to take advantage of this lull in postings to elaborate on the relationship between pragmatism and the mind-body unity. The notion of body-as-tool is a very important one because it sheds light on so many things, from sex differences in most species to gender roles in culture, to wh

RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physico-Chemical and Biological Semiosis (Was semantic problem with the term)

2017-04-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
. For example, sex across species and gender roles in culture… and chemical reactions in molecules. As I am not a scholar studying Peirce in detail, am I perhaps over-stating the already obvious? sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:16 PM To: ta

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Physico-Chemical and Biological Semiosis (Was semantic problem with the term)

2017-04-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
On the one hand I agree with you, John. Perhaps there is greater value in sticking with the word imitation, for example, but emphasizing its nuances to the scholars. I can accept that. However, the more I think about it, imitation is so central that perhaps a case can be made for a more accurat

RE: RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physico-Chemical and Biological Semiosis (Was semantic problem with the term)

2017-04-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
hout luck. I think we need to invent a new word to more accurately describe this replication and sharing of signs/behavior. From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 2:30 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Jon Alan Schmidt'; 'Jeffrey Brian Downar

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physico-Chemical and Biological Semiosis (Was semantic problem with the term)

2017-04-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
I forgot to mention some assumptions in my thought experiment: 1) Identicality – to be perfectly identical is to be entangled; 2) Recoherence – there is no such thing as decoherence –but there is recoherence when an atom/molecule reconnects with previous states. From: Stephen

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physico-Chemical and Biological Semiosis (Was semantic problem with the term)

2017-04-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, Regarding the Peircean categories in matter, here are the starting assumptions that I work with: 1) First, a couple of definitions: A HOLON is a mind-body. Every living organism, as a mind-body, is a holon. Furthermore, IMITATION is an important category of pragmatism. Every organis

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Transcending Scientism - print version ready now.

2017-03-30 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Oops, correction. Animals don't do formal logic or science :) "Imitation as a variation on the pragmatic maxim" should read "Imitation as a variation of pragmatism (biosemiotic)". -Original Message----- From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Thur

[PEIRCE-L] Transcending Scientism - print version ready now.

2017-03-29 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, Towards the end of last year I posted here to advise that my eBook was published. Some members contacted me to ask when the print version is available. It's available now. A more detailed synopsis of the book than that already provided: 1) Emphasis is on the PRACTICAL interpretation of

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pavlov's plant

2016-12-09 Thread Stephen Jarosek
More on Pavlov's plant: http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201612069277/international/smart-plants-learn-new -habits Associative learning AND habituation. very interesting. From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:08 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupu

[PEIRCE-L] Pavlov's plant

2016-12-08 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Some interesting news directly relevant to the Peircean-biosemiotic paradigm: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-06/plants-can-use-memory-to-learn-uwa-stu dy-suggests/8098142 (we should anticipate the same extension of rationale to Pavlov's subatomic/atomic/molecular particle - a paper in the work

[PEIRCE-L] Quantum semiotics - the evidence mounts

2016-11-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, While we have a thread running on Peirce's cosmology, metaphysics and nothing, the following kind of relates, I guess :) In the course of busying myself with my projects connecting quantum physics with semiotics, I've unearthed further leads that might interest some of us here. My thesis is

[PEIRCE-L] Transcending scientism - new book

2016-09-13 Thread Stephen Jarosek
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RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-27 Thread Stephen Jarosek
M To: online_sadhu_sa...@googlegroups.com Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience? On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:47:23PM +0200, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > Mission statements are "window dressing?" Really? You've not ha

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-27 Thread Stephen Jarosek
@googlegroups.com Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience? On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:47:23PM +0200, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > Mission statements are "window dressing?" Really? You've not had any > experi

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-26 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Mission statements are "window dressing?" Really? You've not had any experience in strategic planning at the management level, have you... ie, you have no idea what you are talking about. My reference to mission statements is intended as a metaphor to explain the purpose of an axiomatic framewo

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-26 Thread Stephen Jarosek
, 26 July 2016 2:09 PM To: online_sadhu_sa...@googlegroups.com Cc: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience? On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:37:12AM +0200, Stephen Jarosek wrote: > On the matter of anti-science and anti-rational, you raise a

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-25 Thread Stephen Jarosek
ent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: There was a time when homely grandmothers fussing over their pets were more in touch with principles of consciousness than scientists in labcoats, back in the days of Pavlov or BF Skinner, performing experiments on dogs

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Jarosek
s.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Jarosek Sent: Friday, 08 July 2016 10:24 AM To: online_sadhu_sa...@googlegroups.com Subject: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [Sadhu Sanga] How to judge what is pseudoscience? >”Einstein's work took longer to gain acceptance, and as we have seen, there >are hold-outs to

RE: [PEIRCE-L] [Sadhu Sanga] New Experiences

2016-06-04 Thread Stephen Jarosek
to be brings physics and philosophy together into a shared narrative. From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com] Sent: Friday, 3 June 2016 4:46 PM To: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [Sadhu Sanga] New Experiences On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: To cut a long story

[PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - rethinking imitation

2016-04-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, The relationship between imitation and entropy has been occupying my thoughts of late, and I wonder if this might be of further interest to anyone here. As we've discussed before in this forum, simplistic imitation is of limited utility to the Peircean paradigm... it gets a bad rap in many

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Messages that seem bcc'd to peirce-l via Online Sadhu Sanga

2016-02-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
I noticed at the time that “odd” things were happening (with complaints from annoyed recipients) and double-checked then to make sure that I was not bcc-ing anyone unintentionally. I just now went through again, and confirm that, as far as I am aware, I have not included anyone in a bcc. Fro

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:9127] Re: Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement

2016-02-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
nformon.net <http://www.conformon.net/> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: List, I stumbled upon a fascinating video clip <https://youtu.be/FzcTgrxMzZk> on the weekend. Might Peircean-biosemiotic concepts apply also to atoms and molecules? Peirce’s “mind

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement

2016-02-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
science that hangs together. sj From: Clark Goble [mailto:cl...@lextek.com] Sent: Monday, 1 February 2016 11:02 PM To: Stephen Jarosek; Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: I stumbled upon a

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement

2016-02-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
etter than that. sj From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Monday, 1 February 2016 9:40 PM To: Stephen Jarosek; 'PEIRCE-L'; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement Stephen - there are a number of us who have been

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement

2016-02-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
rounds to know that they haven’t delivered on their promises. sj From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:jerryr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 1 February 2016 9:29 PM To: Stephen Jarosek Cc: PEIRCE-L; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement Stephen and

[PEIRCE-L] Pragmatism - atoms, molecules, entanglement

2016-02-01 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, I stumbled upon a fascinating video clip on the weekend. Might Peircean-biosemiotic concepts apply also to atoms and molecules? Peirce's "mind hidebound with habits" comes to mind. But back in his day, Peirce could never have known what we now know about quan

[PEIRCE-L] RE: Entropy - anticipating the demise of the genocentric paradigm

2015-12-03 Thread Stephen Jarosek
is integral to life, identity and the binding problem: http://nautil.us/issue/30/identity/quantum-mechanics-is-putting-human-identi ty-on-trial (DNA entanglement would also be entropically friendly, unlike the genocentric-materialist paradigm) -Original Message- From: Stephen Jarosek

[PEIRCE-L] Entropy - anticipating the demise of the genocentric paradigm

2015-12-03 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Lists, In a recent tweet of his, reading between the lines, it would seem that Richard Dawkins is beginning to respond to challenges to his genocentric paradigm within the context of the second law of thermodynamics (entropy). Due to uncertainties wrt copyright, I won't include his tweet here. But

[PEIRCE-L] Identicality, entanglement, knowing how to be - a conjecture

2015-11-17 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, In response to recent calls for submissions for Springer (constructive biosemiotics) and conferences/gatherings in Poland and Czech, I have been labouring to put together a paper. But in the end it is evident that it will never get published, because it is too conjectural, and very difficult

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