(written regarding Jon Randall):
Can anyone back me up on this one (or prove me wrong):
Wasn't this the "country singin' kid from KY" on MTV's "Real World" when
they
were in So. CA?
For some reason I wanna say his name was Jon.
Rave On,
Paul
Don't know about the MTV thing, but FWIW, he's the
Hey why worry about the penny-ante wristband stuff anyway. go for the big
one!
Seriously, if anyone can let me use their badge from about 2:15 to 3:15 p.m.
Thursday, I'd be much obliged. I can pick it up and return it to the P2
party.
Thanks,
Linda
Here's the deal.
I'm shooting a commercial in Nac. tommorow, so I can check my mail (I
own no Austin computer).
I'll be in Austin for SXSW.
I'd like to go to the parties, etc.
But I don't have a clue where they are. I'd like to meet all you guys
(again, probably).
Someone help me out.
--Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Clip: The state of country radio
In a message dated 3/15/99 9:40:41 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Just happened
At 01:01 AM 3/16/1999 Matt wrote:
Here's the deal.
I'm shooting a commercial in Nac. tommorow, so I can check my mail (I
own no Austin computer).
I'll be in Austin for SXSW.
I'd like to go to the parties, etc.
But I don't have a clue where they are. I'd like to meet all you guys
(again,
Justin. Every time.
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy,
28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK
Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is pretty evident by the fact that instead of folding to the whims of
Nashville and becoming another music publisher's puppet, she fond Mutt
Lange
(or should I say he found her), who in return allowed her to do things her
own way.
Not aware of what her lounge singing consisted of in Canada,
vgs399 writes:
Don't know about the MTV thing, but FWIW, he's the guy married to
Lorrie Morgan, if that helps you.
Yeah,he's not the Real World guy. And, concerning to whom he's
married, he's a lucky, lucky man. If I was in his boots I'd have a good
reason to never leave the house.
Yeh, I thought so, too. Maybe I don't grasp the point of Behind The
Music, but it doesn't seem to be much about music, as it is glorifying
drug abuse. Hell, after watching the Motley Crue one, I found myself
envying their rock n roll lifestyles. Sounds like fun. Yeh, every one's
clean and sober
I'm kind of surprised that folks aren't clued in to Jon Randall, since
anyone who has a copy of Emmylou Harris' Live At The Ryman has heard him
play and sing.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
In a message dated 3/16/99 4:52:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Yeah,he's not the Real World guy. And, concerning to whom he's
married, he's a lucky, lucky man. If I was in his boots I'd have a good
reason to never leave the house.
You have obviously never met
In a message dated 3/16/99 1:05:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I'll be in Austin for SXSW.
I'd like to go to the parties, etc.
But I don't have a clue where they are. I'd like to meet all you guys
(again, probably).
Someone help me out.
Does this remind anyone
Funny Iggy story that I may have told out here before. A former
acquaintance was a former high class restaurant manager turned
cheesy marketing guy (cheesy as in combining Pat Riley's look
with a disco-suave personality). He sees Spin or some such with
Iggy on the cover and says, "Hey, that's
Yeah,he's not the Real World guy. And, concerning to whom he's
married, he's a lucky, lucky man. If I was in his boots I'd have a good
reason to never leave the house.
You have obviously never met Ms. Morgan.
Ever wonder why Keith Whitley drank himself to death?
Think about it.
maybe his dog ate his party schedule?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:15 AM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: SXSW and me
In a message dated 3/16/99 1:05:03 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I'll be
Correct me if I'm wrong here (and I've been meaning to bring this up about
Shania), but since when was Shania ever really "Country." From what I've
read about her, she was singing pop songs in a Vegas format in
some vacation lodges in Canada. It just so happens that the one person
that
From: Mike Hays
Not aware of what her lounge singing consisted of in Canada, but before she
met Mutt she did a pretty decent straight ahead country CD which if I
remember correctly, received critical acclaim but little commercial
acceptance as it came out just as the POP boom in country was
Terry says:
As for rock influences on country, Jon's made this point before, and it's
well documented, but I'd argue that there's rock influences and then
there's rock influences. The sort of rock influences that's "corrupting"
commercial country music these days is, for the most part,
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Iain Noble wrote:
Justin. Every time.
Ironic that it takes an Englishman to point out the obvious g.
Kip
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research
From: Jon Weisberger
More to the point, though, the CMF's new Encyclopedia of Country
Music says that 1) she came to Nashville with a tape and hooked up with
Shedd there,
Well shame on me then for watching and believing what I see on VH1, but
according to their report, she was singing away
[Matt Benz] Shania sez in the VH1 special that she sang whatever was in
demand: she sang in rock bands, top 40 cover bands, country bands. She
was a typical lounge-type performer: simply doing whatever styles were
wanted at the time. As far as I can tell, she was not pre-disposed to
country
[Matt Benz] Shania sez in the VH1 special...
Hmm, first Derek, now Matt confesses to having tuned in. I think it's
pretty clear just who the real Shania fans are here.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
I was at my in-laws, lying on the couch, watching lots of satellite tv.
Lots of VH1 music specials. I didn't see all of Shania's, tuned out
before the "fake Native American backround" scandal. I admit I was
curious. And she is good looking, no denying that. But then I also
watched the Grand Funk
maybe his dog ate his party schedule?
Na, his printer didn't work. But he'll have it by tomorrow, really!!
--junior
At 11:29 AM 3/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
I'll be leaving Tuesday morning for Austin and won't be back until next
Monday night. If you have any P2 subscription problems/questions while
I'm gone, email the fantabulous listmom Laura at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking
forward to seein' lots of ya in Austin
Buddy Holly's Survivors Sue MCA
By CHRIS NEWTON Associated Press Writer
LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) - Relatives of Buddy Holly sued MCA Records Monday,
alleging that the company hoarded royalty payments, forged contracts and
illegally produced albums without family consent.
The lawsuit seeks
Jon Weisberger wrote:
I'm kind of surprised that folks aren't clued in to Jon Randall, since
anyone who has a copy of Emmylou Harris' Live At The Ryman has heard him
play and sing.
I guess that might explain why I haven't a clue who this cat is, now doesn't
it! g
Paul
np: Golen Palominos -
In a message dated 3/15/99 7:02:28 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Masonrod said:
Whine, whine, whine. "I got to see him here." "Oooh, I wish I was there."
That's why I stay in Detroit. Despite its present day music mundaneness, I
got to experience so much when Detroit was still Rock
Well, that's what I figured out, eventually. I guess I'm not as
interested in drug use and wife beatings as I am in music, tho.
M
I do believe the show is called "BEHIND the music" which would suggest
that
they would talk about something other than "the music"...eh?
I just can't wait for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 3/15/99 10:01:18 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Search Destroy - Red Hot Chili Peppers (didn't EMF do this too?)
don't know about emf, but the dictators did/do a great version of this
on "bloodbrothers".
"Manifest Destiny," actually.
In a message dated 3/16/99 8:21:20 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You obviously never met Mr. Whitley.
As matter of fact I did meet him once. He was a perfect gentleman, and sober
as a judge. He put on a great show as well. What he did when he was back on
the bus was
In a message dated 3/16/99 9:40:29 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
maybe his dog ate his party schedule?
Na, his printer didn't work. But he'll have it by tomorrow, really!!
Matt, were just funnin' with you. hope to see you at some of the parties.
Introduce yourself.
Moving the thread from Iggy Pop and the Dictators, [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclaimed:
Goin' to B.O.C. Thursday night! Woo!!!
Who exactly is in Blue Oyster Cult these days aside from Eric Bloom
Buck Dharma? Anybody named Bouchard?
Carl Z.
sounds juicy, any more details?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 1:01 PM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: Clip: New Faces Show
In a message dated 3/16/99 8:21:20 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You
Carl Zimring asked:
Moving the thread from Iggy Pop and the Dictators, [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclaimed:
Goin' to B.O.C. Thursday night! Woo!!!
Who exactly is in Blue Oyster Cult these days aside from Eric Bloom
Buck Dharma? Anybody named Bouchard?
Aw man, make it stop! g Now the
Carl Abraham Zimring writes:
Who exactly is in Blue Oyster Cult these days aside from Eric Bloom
Buck Dharma? Anybody named Bouchard?
Nope, last I'd heard Joe B. had gotten a music degree from Julliard
(not sure what he's doing with it) and Al B. was still playing with his
wife Deborah
Reply to: RE: B.O.C Re: mo' 70s rock (was Re: iggy pop)
One of the best concerts I ever experienced: New Years Eve, 1973-74, Academy of
Music, NYC. Kiss (major league debut, with the neon Kiss sign and everything) Iggy and
the Stooges (including the great James Williamson) and Blue
Got this from the Dylan newsgroup and thought it funny in a way that
postcard2 folks may find funny too...
keep dancing,
-ldk
-- Forwarded message --
Advanced word from Sony Records proves Dylan is not only reasserting his
Jewish heirtage but is also reclaiming the
Ready, willing, AND ableto discuss 70's hard rock (not metal,
in my mind anyway,thankyouverymuch). BOC's _Cultosaurus Erectus_ remains
one of my favorite records to this very day.
NPIMH: BOC's epic song relating to Micheal Moorcock's sci-fi
epics..."Black Blade"
Jerry
William F. Silvers wrote:
Saw B.O.C. twice back in the day, (opened for the Dolls in 1974,
headlined in 1977) and my hearing's never fully recovered.
Quality metal, yeah boy.
Saw a dream show on Long Island in the mid-70's Foghat opened,
the original Black Sabbath in the middle and BOC (honetown
Looking at the matter in terms of the country music industry and the way
that it works, Twain's career, at least through The Woman In Me, bears a
considerable resemblance to that of some of the 70s Outlaws - that is to
say, a struggle with "conservative" producers and label execs over her
"Basically, after Buddy Holly died, the record company went through a
lot of manipulations with his former manager to issue a lot of
recordings,'' Glasheen said. ``MCA had agreed to pay the family
additional royalties, but then wanted to add additional terms to the
agreement.''
Does anyone know
At 06:07 PM 3/15/99 -0800, you wrote:
A couple of places (not sure if they are still around, though)
Tiny's Boot Shop--East First just east of I35
Cadillac Jack's--North Lamar
It's been gone awhile and Jimmy died a couple of years ago. Not sure what
happened to all those boots.
Allen's
Looking at the matter in terms of the country music industry and the way
that it works, Twain's career, at least through The Woman In Me, bears a
considerable resemblance to that of some of the 70s Outlaws - that is to
say, a struggle with "conservative" producers and label execs over her
Hey all, I'm gonne be signing off for a spell to deal with SXSW and an
onslaught of work. Now don't go arbitrarily dissing every single rock critic
on the planet while I'm gone, okay? Yeah, right.
Neal Weiss
np - Walter Clevenger
You obviously never met Mr. Whitley.
As matter of fact I did meet him once. He was a perfect
gentleman, and sober as a judge. He put on a great show as
well. What he did when he was back on the bus was probably
much more sinister and self destructive.
I met Lorrie Morgan once. Seemed
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 16-Mar-99 RE: Clip: The
state of cou.. by "Jon Weisberger"@fuse.ne
So you say, but I think it depends a lot on your degree of interest in rock.
If you're not interested in classical music, and you think that
incorporating classical music influences
So you say, but I think it depends a lot on your degree of
interest in rock.
If you're not interested in classical music, and you think that
incorporating classical music influences into rock makes the result less
enjoyable, are you really going to care whether it's
Beethoven's
Often in these P2 discussions of radio, I'm surprised at the notion
that people could actually make a change in it. I'm much more of the
opinion that the music industry *manufactures* mass taste and the
need for its products. Very pessimistic on that point. I know it's
not a simple equation,
Joonyah wrote:
This is hilarious, thanks for fowarding And just in time for
Passover!
Oi vay, hoss,
Dunno if it's still there, but I once looked up Dylan sites in Yahoo
and found one called "Tangled Up In Jews." It examples Jewish
references in Dylan songs or some such.
Dave
np:
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 16-Mar-99 RE: Clip: The state
of coun.. by "Jon Weisberger"@fuse.ne
Hmm, Carl, does this mean you're not interested in classical music?
Relative to several other types of music, that would be a fair
statement. I'm a casual listener at best.
Excerpts
Jerald remembers the names of those two vintage shops on S Lamar...
Amelia's or Flashback.
Which reminds me: there's another good vintage place way up North,
just off 50th (I think?), not too far from Airport Blvd. They have
more boots than Amelia's or Flashback, although the selection
Carl says:
Would a discussion of the merits of Kenny G's and Sonny Rollins's
influence on rock by non-jazz fans be fair? I'll bet there's a lurker
or two who's not big on jazz but digs the Stones' "Waiting For a Friend"
runs screaming from Michael Bolton's work
Fair, sure, why not? g
So:
Perhaps. I'd rather hear Debussy than Wagner in my rock. The latter
leads to things like Meat Loaf.
Hmm, Carl, does this mean you're not interested in classical music?
Besides, the former leads to things like BST.
People!! Wagner and Debussy are yucky *romantic* music. They are
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 16-Mar-99 RE: Clip: The state
of coun.. by "Jon Weisberger"@fuse.ne
But consider that, as best I can tell, anyhow, one
of the raps on Kenny G is that his work is influenced by the wrong kinds of
rock and pop, so a certain degree of circularity starts
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 16-Mar-99 RE: Clip: The state
of coun.. by "Ph. Barnard"@eagle.cc.u
People!! Wagner and Debussy are yucky *romantic* music. They are
NOT *classical* music. All European music isn't the same. Don't
mix great composers like Mozart and Cimarosa
People!! Wagner and Debussy are yucky *romantic* music. They are
NOT *classical* music. All European music isn't the same. Don't
mix great composers like Mozart and Cimarosa in with trash like
Wagner, sheesh g What would you think if somebody
characterized Buck as
With all due respect to you mad dogs and (one) Englishman, I can't believe
nobody has mentioned El Paso's own Tony Lama. My first pair (black iguana)
were TL's, and I still wear them 12 years later.
For sheer pointy-toedness, though, you can't beat the pair of Chisholms
I've got; you could kill
I love this. Only on P2 does a discussion of the state of country
radio devolve into questions about the differential effects of
radically diverse sax players like Brubeck, Kenny G, Sun Ra, or
Coltrane on a non-informed rock audience. Not to mention this
business about Wagner
Yeah, we'll be there. Bring your raincoats, folks. Forcast is showers.
Really? Crap. Anyone planning on being at the BBQ -- if it's raining on
Thursday at noon, call the house (number is in email invite thingy) -- I
might have to move it to Saturday.
kill me,
cherry lou.
Cherilyn diMond wrote:
Yeah, we'll be there. Bring your raincoats, folks. Forcast is showers.
Really? Crap. Anyone planning on being at the BBQ -- if it's raining on
Thursday at noon, call the house (number is in email invite thingy) -- I
might have to move it to Saturday.
kill me,
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:45:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerry Curry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [twangfest] Fwd: [loud-fans] The Razzies!
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Ph. Barnard wrote:
Oh yeah, Jerry, I was just giving Bill some guff. I
On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Wyatt) wrote:
with 'em. Way uncomfortable, but I will always suffer for fashion, as
the P2
partygoers at NEA will attest.
*Fashion*...hmm, is THAT what you call it?
Jerry
Would this be the pot calling the kettle black Mr. Fashion
A friend handed me a piece of paper a couple of weeks ago, this is what
it said -
"I am currently carrying out some work relating to 'folk music'. To
begin with, I am attempting to arrive at a definition of what
constitutes 'folk music' or 'folk song'.
I would be very interested to know what
Jr. goes:
Popular taste is not formed before industry dreck gets heard, it's
formed *in and by* industry dreck.
And then Todd goes:
When did T.W. Adorno sneak on to the list?
And so I goes:
Like, too long ago? Jr. is using a real overpure Frankfurt-school reading
of popular
Chaco, I've lost track of your mailing address.
Please send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry for the personal note all,
b.s.
Junior wrote:
People!! Wagner and Debussy are yucky *romantic* music. They are
NOT *classical* music. All European music isn't the same. Don't
mix great composers like Mozart and Cimarosa in with trash like
Wagner, sheesh g What would you think if somebody
characterized Buck as
No, no, I know that, Mr.Junior. (I mean, really, with a name like
"Junior", you'd have been drummed out of the Teddy-and-Walt Noble
Frankfurters Clubhouse at the first meeting...) But I was somewhat,
somehow serious that the management-and-creation-of-taste line, while
Terry says:
What I'm trying to say -- the relative merit
of the music (which is all a matter of taste) isn't addressed on any
levels in your comparisons about how each of these artists, or group of
artists, dealt with the "industry." If Shania was a duck quacking, and
she'd gone through
In a message dated 3/16/99 1:44:22 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You know that Whitley's relationship with Morgan was a product of his
alcoholism from having met him once and having heard some stories about her?
That seems like a shaky diagnostic approach to me.
Read
In a message dated 3/16/99 6:00:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ok, but the real question is: did you ever see the greatest rock'n'roll
band
ever to come screaming outta the motor city? i'm speaking of sonic's
rendezvous band.
I started playing in my cousin's band when I
In a message dated 3/16/99 1:44:22 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I met Lorrie Morgan once. Seemed perfectly nice to me.
Are you saying they both fooled us?
Slim
Jon quotes me here (and is kind of enough not to point out that I tangled
up that last sentence and said the opposite of what I meant):
I think your comparative points are
instructive, but of limited utility, when we're trying to gauge to what
extent rock influences have eroded or
This thread is nuts g.
Heh Geir, I was mostly joking. Carl, I'm way back off that yellow
line!!
And Geir: while Wagner isn't my own cup of tea, more power to ya. As Jon
Weisberger was just saying in another context of this same thread (!?),
these taste matters are not really the basic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ok, but the real question is: did you ever see the greatest rock'n'roll
band
ever to come screaming outta the motor city? i'm speaking of sonic's
rendezvous band.
k
What!?!?!? Get outta here, the greatest band ever to come screaming out
of the Motor City would
Jon, you want to elaborate a little on your take on the Outlaws?
I've never been wild about them musically, myself. It's mostly a
stylistic thing, as they just don't seem to come from the places that move
me in that sense (the beats, especially, didn't swing, as I think you
mentioned). I was
But isn't the history of country music more or less the history of its
influences? And that being the case, doesn't that make the influences,
and genres within the influences, very valid -- even crucial -- factors in
assessing the music? It seems as if you're throwing all rock music into
I met Lorrie Morgan once. Seemed perfectly nice to me.
Are you saying they both fooled us?
No, I'm saying you can't judge a book by its cover. Whitley could be a nice
guy, but he could also be pretty awful, and apparently the same is true of
Ms. Morgan as well. It's probably true of a
Updated at 6:15 Eastern to showers Thursday *and* Friday, still clear
Saturday.
b.s.
Junior wrote:
This thread is nuts g.
Heh Geir, I was mostly joking. Carl, I'm way back off that yellow
line!!
And Geir: while Wagner isn't my own cup of tea, more power to ya. As Jon
Weisberger was just saying in another context of this same thread (!?),
these taste matters are not
TRISHA JOINS OPRY
BY AP
* 03/16/99
The Toronto Sun
(c) Copyright 1999 The Toronto Sun
Singer Trisha Yearwood got a special gift after she was inducted as
the newest cast member of the Grand Ole Opry.
Before a full house Saturday, Opry star
Oh by the way Apparently we're looking at a projected July 13 release
on the Derailers.
A single from the album, "Full Western Dress," will be out in June.
Apparently this single memorializes Mark Wyatt's pointy boots.
--junior
A RISKY BEAUTY
WILCO WALKS ARTISTIC TIGHTROPE TO PRODUCE ...
BY JOSHUA OSTROFF, OTTAWA SUN
* 03/14/99
The Ottawa Sun
(c) Copyright 1999 The Ottawa Sun. All Rights Reserved.
SUMMER TEETH
WILCO
Sun Rating:
3 1/2 out of 5
*
This Web site, at www.outofservice.com/country, has one simple yet
* amusing purpose: to generate lyrics in the style of a country music
song.
TOM RUSSELL'S HISTORY
BY DAVID VEITCH* 03/14/99
The Calgary Sun
(c) Copyright 1999 The Calgary Sun. All Rights Reserved.
THE MAN FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE -- Tom Russell: The death of Russell's
* father inspired this ambitious, 74-minute song-cycle/folk-music
Family And Religion
* Earle, McCoury -- bluegrass at its best
Wayne Bledsoe, News-Sentinel entertainment writer
* 03/13/99
The Knoxville News-Sentinel
(Copyright 1999)
*There are few things more shocking than seeing bad boy Steve Earle
in a
Now playing the star: Joe Henry
Joel Reese * 03/12/99
Chicago Daily Herald
(Copyright 1999)
Joe Henry is done with the earnest singer-songwriter acoustic
guitar thing.
Done, finished, finito. Close the book.
Henry, the guy who recorded two
Cool museum. No Billie Jean exhibits?? Rats!
--junior
ELLIS PAUL // Folk singer coming to The Wire
Barry Fox
* 03/12/99
The Harrisburg Patriot
(Copyright 1999)
Like the athlete he once was, folk-star-on-the-rise Ellis Paul
feels like he is finally in `the zone.`
For the last seven years
Crash renews cell phone doubts // Singer recovering, but worries
about driving distraction arise
Patriot News
* 03/11/99
The Harrisburg Patriot
(Copyright 1999)
*Country music giant George Jones, it now appears, will recover
from serious
Hey, the April issue of Gig Magazine (that how-to rag for working musicians
that Matt Benz swears by, or is it swears at) has Pittsburgh featured as its
monthly city guide. Boy, when they mentioned those cole slaw/French fry
sandwiches at Primanti Bros., my heart skipped a beat (and my stomach
From previous comments I know there are several Los
Lobos fans on the list, so thought I'd pass along word
that a new Los Lobos mailing list is getting started. It's
probably not going to be a very high-volume list, but with
the new CDs from Cesar Rosas, the Latin Playboys, and
David
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