--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Justin Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I mixed a glass (250ml) table sugar two days ago with a liter and a
half of
> water. Added a packet of yeast and left it. Every night a warm it
up a bit
> with a light bulb for a couple of hours. It seems to be
> The percentage ethanol you can expect from this if fermented out
fully is
> 140/17 = 8.2% ethanol (making up to 1.5 litre solution)
> Not very high, and with such small quantities you can expect to
have even
> less left after distillation as your losses will be high. With no
losses,
> you wo
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am exploring ethanol possibilities
> I have calculated that with a mash of 14% alcohol, I will need at
least 100
> gallons to distill out to ~15 gallons of 180 proof alcohol.
> Has anyone ever made a semi-automatic devic
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hopefully Motie was talking about our website
> www.revenoor.com
> Thanks guys
> Let me know if I can answer any other questions.
> Regards,
> Terry D. Wilhelm
> The Revenoor Co
YES! That is the URL I was looking for! I have it
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>I have been looking for some easy recipes to make my own ethanol, without much
>luck. I have an excess of cull potatoes here on the farm though, it doesn't
>look like they yield too well. I also raise corn, wheat, and have feed grade
>molasses that I get pretty cheap. From what I have found of
Dear jonathan,
If only it were so.. almost though as cars now can handle
E85..and there are some that are set up for E100 the fuel air
module is not adjustable however...performance would be erratic.
the ethanol fuel air modules are however available but its either -
or...at this time
-
Hi,
Ecogenics has been distilling fuel and pharmaceutical grade ethanol
for thirty years now here in Sevierville Tennessee and is now
producing Biodiesel. At one point we were importing brazilian
general motors cars that could run on as low as 180 proof... we have
modified vartious
My post was realy a comment on the shaping of the public by the media
and whoever is trying to push the point from behind the scenes (oil
companies?). It just is increcible to me that both sides of the story
were not portrayed in a equal manner and the benefits of using a
renewable form of ene
Hi,
I'm new here.
I put this same question to the USA's Hydrogen energy kzar's during
the MRS Spring Meeting in San Francisco. They were basically there
to recruit Academics and researchers into H2 R&D.
I asked 'Why hydrogen, why not bio-derived alternatives?' the answer
was 'political' to s
Hello Nick
>My post was realy a comment on the shaping of the public by the media
>and whoever is trying to push the point from behind the scenes (oil
>companies?). It just is increcible to me that both sides of the story
>were not portrayed in a equal manner and the benefits of using a
>renewabl
Thanks for you reply Keith,
It helps to clear things up when the story comes out from more than
one source( this relates to other threads in this group too). Its
funny that "Rob Carter" from the NRMA is perpetuating the myth when
the NRMA was involved in the research paper from "Apace Resear
The following is response to an off-list inquiry made about an
article based upon David Pimental's representations as to
ethanols dis-economics. It might make better sense to read the
original inquiry first, then the response.
Todd Swearingen
.
Dear [snip],
First, I
Bravo, Todd, nicely done!
There's a lot more Pimentel debunking here:
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html
Is ethanol energy-efficient?
New report:
"Corn ethanol is energy efficient... For every BTU dedicated to
producing ethanol there is a 34 percent energy gain," the study said.
- Original Message -
From: motie_d
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:43 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol
> The percentage ethanol you can expect from this if fermented out
fully is
> 140/17 = 8.2% ethanol (making up to 1.5 litre so
>
> 4. I would like to convert my 2 cycle lawnmower to run on ethanol
> fuel. Any suggestions on engine conversion?
>
I wouldn't try to use a 2 cycle engine for Ethanol. They depend on
oil mixed into the fuel for lubrication. Oil and Pure Ethanol may mix
well enough and be usable, but the af
Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high
ethanol concentration with distillation. What about using solar
energy to preheat your solution before it reaches a regular still.
If you could preheat with solar power, less energy would need to be
input it to the final dis
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> if you make your solar collector strong enought,you
> can use vacuum distillation at solar collector
> temperatures to distill ethanol.
> regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
There have been several mentions of vacuum distilation on t
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14%
=28proof)
>
That is also my understanding. The alcohol starts to kill the Yeast
above 10%, and they are nearly all dead by 14%.
On the temp side, 140F kills them off.
That
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
> 20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
> room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
> to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
> be affected by a low vacuum.
I'll interpose my thoughts into the body of your message.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is an unknown to me
but if
> the liquid column is deep enough that should establish a viability
zone and
> a piece of filter (
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "rwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Motie,
> Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for
human
> consumption?
> By
> Raw
Not yet, but it may 'accidently' occur occasionaly. I may have to
further purify a small sample occasionally for 'lab tests'!
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F).
> i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum
> required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F.
> roger
Thanks. That would much simplify the process, if it can be don
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are you pumping the liquid solution, or
> just the vapors?
>
> Just the vapor is moving across. You have space over the liquid and
the
> "air" is connected to a cold space that is lower so the cold air is
stable.
> As the alcohol be
As long as this is still in the theory stage: Remember that ethanol
is an excellant cleaning solvent. You will need to pay extra special
attention to your 2 cylinder compressor to make sure the essential
mechanical parts are still being oiled. The ethanol vapor will tend
to wash the cylinde
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cornfed62" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As long as this is still in the theory stage: Remember that
ethanol
> is an excellant cleaning solvent. You will need to pay extra
special
> attention to your 2 cylinder compressor to make sure the essential
> mechanical par
> > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > vacuum onto the tank and then use it as a stored energy source.
A
> > typical thousand gallon service propane tank with special
plumbing
> > and val
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Juan Boveda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Moti, just to add an idea to get cheaper vacuum, to use the gravity
not
> only a big vacuum pump.
>
> In industry, to keep under vacuum something the usual way is to use
a 11 รถ
> 11.5 meter tall cylinder full of slow running w
hopefully Motie was talking about our website
www.revenoor.com
Thanks guys
Let me know if I can answer any other questions.
Regards,
Terry D. Wilhelm
The Revenoor Co
--- motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Klingensmith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am explori
hopefully Motie was talking about our website
www.revenoor.com
Thanks guys
Let me know if I can answer any other questions.
Regards,
Terry D. Wilhelm
The Revenoor Co
--- motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Klingensmith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am explori
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:25:41AM -, motie_d wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Klingensmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am exploring ethanol possibilities
> > I have calculated that with a mash of 14% alcohol, I will need at
> least 100
> > gallons to distill out to ~15 gallons
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Okay, lemme ask again:
>
> First let me just say that some people are paranoid of their
> government, and distillation of ethanol in the US, even for
> fuel use, is ILLEGAL without going through all the hoops
>
You should be
>
>You should be able to buy lime in the garden center at Walmart or
>other garden center. Or any farmers Co-op.
Actually, you need "quicklime", which is anhydrous calcium oxide.
The stuff in the garden centers is agricultural lime, or "ag lime"
for short, and it's just calcium carbonate, often
The "small fuel producer" permit is fairly easy to aquire, and
denaturing is not required for ethanol consumed on premises.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >Okay, lemme ask again:
> > >
> > >- Anyone out there m
>Hi Keith,
> Both the US and Canadian govts have Biodiesel projects
>in place and I know we did quite a bit of work here in NZ in the 80s
>but the common consensus here at that time was that it was not
>really feasible on a basic level or even on an advanced level. A lot
>of things
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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:26 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol
>
> Good to see a fellow West Australian here.
> I have found exactly the same problem. I have dabbled in an
050/
-_->
Andrew,
Just had a look at your web site - looks great. Now I have your address, I
will come out and visit you sometime and introduce myself.
Cheers
Gary
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:26 AM
Subject:
t;
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:26 AM
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol
>
> >
> > Good to see a fellow West Australian here.
> > I have found exactly the same problem. I have dabbled in and out of
> > this field over the past 15 years. I am currently
You came to the right place. Methanol is not a good replacement from
my point of view, as current production methods use fossil fuels as
the source. Ethanol makes a good fuel, but requires major
modifications to the engine in order to be utilized properly. Still
worth doing IMHO, but not easy.
Part 2 appears to have come out today and is more focused on the case
for bringing ethanol (after appropriate testing and lobbying) into the
IRL and other American racing series.
http://www.evworld.com/databases/printit.cfm?storyid=462
>"It's not going to change the on-track product," he said. "
The conclusion came out this week:
http://www.evworld.com/databases/storybuilder.cfm?storyid=466
With evworld.com the trick is if you want the whole installment and
not the "continue" button and don't mind the small print, then hit the
"printer friendly version"
http://www.evworld.com/databases
Dear Todd,
I agree with you on the number game, I wrote earlier,
With 25 barrels per hectare, the current
annual oil consumption would need more than 11 giga hectars of land.
The yield would be a rounded 2,500 barrel per square km and annual
oil consumption would need 11,699,000 square km. This
k or timid heart will have to
migrate to Florida every winter.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol economics
>
> Dear Todd,
>
> I agree with you on the
heart will have to
>migrate to Florida every winter.
>
>Todd Swearingen
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol economics
>
>
> >
> >
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol economics
>
> Dear Todd,
>
> It is number games, only to size the problems and to
> understand them. It is log
the
>public.
>
>Todd Swearingen
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol economics
>
>
> >
> > Dear Todd,
> >
> > It is number g
> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:06:02 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Dan Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Ethanol and BioDiesel
>
>I've heard of people using biodiesel as the oil in two cycle engine
>gas/oil mix, could ethanol and biodiesel be used to power a two cycle
>IC engine? Ofcourse the carburatio
Hi Tony, Dan
> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:06:02 -0600 (MDT)
> > From: Dan Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Ethanol and BioDiesel
> >
> >I've heard of people using biodiesel as the oil in two cycle engine
> >gas/oil mix, could ethanol and biodiesel be used to power a two cycle
> >IC engi
My guess would be that the odor comes from the Drying process after
the grains are used for fermentation. There is a noticable scent in
the air even with small quantities. Small amounts of ethanol remain
in the grain until it is air dried. There may be recovery systems
available to capture
> Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 02:19:55 +
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol fuel
>
>
>>
>> 4. I would like to convert my 2 cycle lawnmower to run on ethanol
>> fuel. Any suggestions on engine conversi
if you make your solar collector strong enought,you
can use vacuum distillation at solar collector
temperatures to distill ethanol.
regards,roger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not produce a very high
> ethanol concentration with distillation. What
I think yeast croak or really slow down at 14% or higher.(14%=28proof)
-Original Message-
From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:51 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED
This is one of the reasons that The Revenoor Co.
www.revenoor.com offers all alcohol stills with
internal solar/steam coils.
Terry
--- randallbarron1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not
> produce a very high
> ethanol concentration with distillation. What
there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
be affected by a low vacuum.i think that you are
pursuing an interesting avenue of resear
west process of all but uses the least energy.
Just some meandering round Robin Hood's barn but I think there is a seed or
two in there.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:34 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [
tank. Slowest process of all but uses the least energy.
>
> Just some meandering round Robin Hood's barn but I think there is a seed or
> two in there.
>
> Kirk
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, Februa
Motie,
Have you done any work on making the residue from the still fit for human
consumption?
By
Raw
-Original Message-
From: motie_d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2002 10:11 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
--- In
motie, fermentation temps. should not exceed 25C(77F).
i am still trying to look thru my info to find the vacuum
required to distill off ethanol at say 68-72F.
roger
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
> > 20%+. wit
Friday, February 08, 2002 7:55 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
I'll interpose my thoughts into the body of your message.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The relationship of pressure to yeast viability is
>there are turbo yeasts available that will withstand
>20%+. with sufficent vacuum you can boil water at
>room temp. i would question whether the yeast's ability
>to propagate (and therefore produce ethanol)would
>be affected by a low vacuum.i think that you are
>pursuing an interesting avenue of
Well, you are now talking about vacuum fermentation for which there is a
patented process. Stripping off ethanol as it is produced solves one problem
but the problem is that the vacuum system must deal with the massive amounts
of carbon dioxide being generated by the fermentation process; so va
You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then still
be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
The House of Jade wrote:
> Well, you are now talking about vacuum fermentation for which there
> is a
> patented process. Stripping off ethanol as it is produced solves one
> probl
- Original Message -
From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then still
> be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
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or here
http://www.alfalavalagri.ch/
Regards
John
- Original Message -
From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 3:05
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
> - Original Message
Monday, 11 February 2002 3:05
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
>
> > You co
motie, a cold trap between the vacuum pump and the
ethanol source should solve the problem of pump
lubrication. adding an oil trap before the pump would
also be advisable.imho.
regards,roger
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "cornfed62" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As long as this is
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > vacuum onto the tank and then use it as a stored energy source.
A
> > typical
> From: "Randall & Shelley Barron" >
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:14
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
>
> > You could use a Carbon dioxide scrubber to remove the CO2 and then
> still
> > be able to use a vacuum for distillation.
> &
uary 11, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
>
> > > As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
> > > considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
> > > vacu
r ejector's flow rate
capacity, I add a kind of drawing, hope it goes fine.
Best regards
Juan
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Jan
-Original Message-
From: randallbarron1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 February 2002 14:42
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
Okay, so solar stills are available, but do not
:8383/2000/humanpower.htm
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- Original Message -
From: "janandjoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:50 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: ethanol distillation
> I am currently experimenting with adapting copper cylinders which are
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "John Blackmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a carbureted 86 Ford E-150 v6 and I'm looking into what I
could do
> to help its emissions (this is in California) Would a significant
> proportion of ethanol as an oxygenate present a problem for the
carburetor,
>
Yes, and any more you progressively become more and
more like a "alky carb" methanol race car setup. The
high compression ... the advanced timing ... the
significantly richer mixture ... and so on. Depending
upon the actual amount of ethanol that you add.
Curtis
--- motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
See: Ethanol and your car
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#ethanolcar
Best
Keith
>Yes, and any more you progressively become more and
>more like a "alky carb" methanol race car setup. The
>high compression ... the advanced timing ... the
>significantly richer mixture ... and so on
You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
want to. You can run a higher compression ratio using ethanol especially if
your engine has an aluminum head.
What are the advantages for higher compression? simply more power or, as
someone stated, better mileage?
This is
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Really, though, now that we know that ethanol is available why are
we
> >bothering with methanol? I find myself learning with methanol and
then
> >having to switch to ethanol for environmental advantage.
> >
> >Mike B
>
>
> I can buy denatured ethanol at my
>local hardware store for about $7 a gallon (?) I think (I'm trying to
>remember the exact price). There is no liquor tax on denatured
>ethanol, since you can't drink it.
>
>David
Unfortunately, you typically can't make biodiesel with it, either. They
used to
om: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:22 AM
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol vs. Methanol
>
>
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Really, tho
Hey Ted, What kinda lingo- would this be?? and would it have anything
to do with the States $.40/gal ethanol support?? By DALE WETZEL,
Associated Press Writer
BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) - Rather than corn or barley, North Dakota's
newest ethanol project might rely on coal.
Dakota Gasification Co.,
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Keith,
Thanks a mint! I work for the American Cotton growers at Cotton
Incorporated. We do research and promotion on U.S. cotton and cotton
products of all kinds. This could really help us out. We are always
looking for a new angle to utilize and implement cotton at any level.
I'm sure
> Keith,
>
> Thanks a mint! I work for the American Cotton growers at Cotton
>Incorporated. We do research and promotion on U.S. cotton and cotton
>products of all kinds. This could really help us out. We are always
>looking for a new angle to utilize and implement cotton at any level.
>I'm sure
BEHOLD, THE POWER OF COTTON
Sam
--- In biofuel@egroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> that logo is all over canada too. it would be a kick if it was to
show up
> on bottles of fuel additive.
>
> Sam Dabbs wrote:
>
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> >Thanks a mint! I work for the A
Somewhat related, and useful in any case:
Ethanol blended diesel (e-diesel) is a cleaner burning alternative
to regular diesel for both heavy-duty (HD) and light-duty (LD)
compression ignition (CI) engines used in buses, trucks, off-road
equipment, and passenger cars. Although ethanol has been
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somewhat related, and useful in any case:
>
> Ethanol blended diesel (e-diesel) is a cleaner burning alternative
> to regular diesel for both heavy-duty (HD) and light-duty (LD)
Tim,
You may also be interested by Sweden's use
Hi Dave, Tim, Edward and all
>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Somewhat related, and useful in any case:
> >
> > Ethanol blended diesel (e-diesel) is a cleaner burning alternative
> > to regular diesel for both heavy-duty (HD) and light-duty (LD)
>
>Tim,
>
>You
Bread has been used in the production of vodka before, basically as a source of
the starch. See http://homedistiller.org/wash-grain2.htm#bread for more
details.
Tony
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "benjinsl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All, Wondering if anyone can give advice on protocol for making
> ethanol from bread (planning to get waste from local bakeries). I
> imagine I treat it like any other starch and need to add some
amount
> of malt.
>
Gary,
> I can't seem to get this link to work - any ideas?
>> http://homedistiller.org/wash-grain2.htm#bread
works OK for me.
Tony
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I used to make moonshine in the '70's. Started out experimenting for
fuel, but its so much work with so little pay off that it was better
to drink the stuff. 100 proof was easy, I would get a couple of mason
jars from 20 galons of "beer". I used everything from sugar & yeast
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol and BioDiesel
Hi Tony, Dan
> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:06:02 -0600 (MDT)
> > From: Dan Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Ethanol and BioDiesel
> >
> >I've heard of people using biodiesel as the oil in
On Saturday 18 October 2003 12:56 am, Bryan Brah wrote:
> What about SVO instead of BD for two-cycle oil? If you mixed ethanol
> and SVO would you get "biofuel vinaigrette" or would it actually mix?
>
Should be possible to use: castor oil was used in racing 2 strokes until
recently.
regards Dou
> An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is
there an
> alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil?
Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run
on ethanol. Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel
because it c
> > An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is
>there an
> > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil?
>
>Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run
>on ethanol.
Yes... but trials with diesels and ethanol in California
> How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ?
When the book comes out it will be much more eloquent, but for now all
I can say is that the diesel engine run on 90%+ ethanol by modifying
the injection pump, injection nozzles, pistons, gaskets, and other
standard modifications (like compression and fi
Does anybody know how to blend ethanol and diesel like E95 (oxygenated
Diesel). Or to put it in another way: what is the secret of the 5% additive.
This additive must be very powerful.
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John Venema wrote:
>Does anybody know how to blend ethanol and diesel like E95 (oxygenated
>Diesel). Or to put it in another way: what is the secret of the 5% additive.
>This additive must be very powerful.
Ethanol blends easily with biodiesel, so you could use biodiesel
instead - only then you
Grendel writes:
>You don't have to raise the compression to run ethanol but you can if you
>want to. You can run a higher compression ratio using ethanol especially
if
>your engine has an aluminum head.
>
>What are the advantages for higher compression? simply more power or, as
>someone stated, be
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